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| 01:22 | mtj | wizzyrea , about? |
| 01:24 | wizzyrea | wuddup |
| 01:24 | mtj | we should swap the problematic mibbit link on the support page, for this one |
| 01:25 | http://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=koha | |
| 01:25 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 01:25 | mtj | fwiw, i just tried the mibbit link and got a banned error, too |
| 01:26 | cool ^^ | |
| 01:26 | wizzyrea | there is some kind of drama going on there |
| 01:28 | shouldn't need the mibbit greeter anymore :) | |
| 01:28 | mtj | ahem ;) |
| 01:28 | oops, amen | |
| 01:28 | wizzyrea | can you detect when people are coming in from a particular domain? |
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| 01:29 | wizzyrea | I suppose you could have it greet everybody that isn't on the IRC regulars list ;) |
| 01:29 | everybody who joins, that is | |
| 01:29 | mtj | hmm, looks like you can... |
| 01:29 | test1_ has userhost ~oftc-webi121-73-232-162.broadband.telstraclear.net and realname OFTC WebIRC Client |
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| 01:30 | eythian | wahanui: caps lock is CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL |
| 01:30 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 01:31 | mtj | my secret reason for the mibbit greeter was to encourage people to choose a proper username |
| 01:32 | eythian | I think it never worked |
| 01:32 | mtj | it ws really a mibbit nagger |
| 01:32 | yep | |
| 01:32 | jcamins | I never saw anyone change their nick. |
| 01:32 | eythian | wahanui: caps lock is also <reply>bash: LS: command not found |
| 01:32 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 01:33 | dcook | I may have seen o ne or two people change their nick, but that might be wishful thinking on my part |
| 01:35 | mtj | i would be thrilled to say goodbye to both mibbit and the mibbit greeter :) |
| 01:36 | tcohen joined #koha | |
| 01:36 | cjh | welcome bcak tcohen |
| 01:36 | where bcak is back... close enough. | |
| 01:36 | tcohen | hi cjh |
| 01:36 | * wizzyrea | saw people change their nick |
| 01:36 | tcohen | just finished watching latest how met your mother's episode |
| 01:37 | and passing by | |
| 01:37 | trea | caps lock |
| 01:37 | wahanui | bash: LS: command not found |
| 01:37 | trea | heh |
| 01:38 | mtj | tho, in mibbit's defense - it may well be possible to turn off mibbit's auto-nick feature |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | yea I think it is |
| 01:39 | jcamins | The problem was never with the mibbit service. |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | i think my reasoning was |
| 01:39 | to make it as easy as possible for people to just hop in here and talk | |
| 01:39 | mtj | …so, that may have been our fault, for leaving that on |
| 01:40 | yeah, a fair call liz :) | |
| 01:40 | jcamins | I was never bothered by the nick. |
| 01:40 | The questions, on the other hand... | |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | I figured, I think, that if they really intended to stay around, they'd choose a nick eventually |
| 01:40 | jcamins | Not that all mibbiters asked painful questions, nor that non-mibbiters don't occasionally ask painful questions. |
| 01:40 | wizzyrea | if it was a drive by mibbiting, oh well. |
| 01:44 | mtj | i guess you cant stop people asking stupid questions… |
| 01:44 | you can just hope to identify them better :) | |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | anyway, that's fixed. |
| 01:59 | mtj | wooo, thanks wizzyrea++ |
| 02:01 | jcamins | rangi: what's the best way to get old release notes, in your opinion? |
| 02:01 | rangi | hm? |
| 02:01 | pre when we were sticking them in the repo? | |
| 02:01 | jcamins | I think it would be helpful to have release notes for previous stable releases. |
| 02:02 | We have 3.0.* and then just the 3.x.0 release notes. | |
| 02:02 | rangi | they'll be in the mailing list archives |
| 02:02 | someone could hunt them down and commit them | |
| 02:02 | would be good | |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Ah, let me clarify the question: I have two proposals for doing this, and I want to know which one is better. |
| 02:03 | rangi | we must know some librarians who could do that :) |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Option one: figure out git grep, retrieve all commits that touch misc/release_notes/*, cherry-pick to master. |
| 02:03 | rangi | right |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Option two: copy all newer release notes out of misc/release_notes on each branch, commit them en masse. |
| 02:04 | rangi | option 3 |
| 02:04 | put them all in kohadocs repo | |
| 02:04 | wizzyrea | ^ |
| 02:04 | jcamins | Ooh. |
| 02:04 | I like that option better. | |
| 02:04 | A lot better. | |
| 02:04 | That is a nice option. | |
| 02:05 | rangi | yep, just as long as we dont get in the way of the manual |
| 02:05 | but i think a release_notes dir | |
| 02:05 | would be fine | |
| 02:05 | then if ppl wanted they could do | |
| 02:05 | en/ fr/ es/ | |
| 02:05 | etc | |
| 02:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]50cf4a9da00587017> / Language update for 3.12-RC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1338a5257d6f0fb7> / Merge branch 'bug_10030' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a6d044d0754950b55 |
| 02:19 | jcamins | Building RC2. |
| 02:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #34 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 02:31 | mtompset | Have a good day. :) |
| 03:02 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #34: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/34/ |
| 03:02 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Language update for 3.12-RC | |
| 03:02 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10030 - MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding | |
| 03:02 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10030: QA Followup for trivial false warning detected while testing | |
| 03:02 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 | |
| 03:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 03:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1175 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 9 days 13 hr ago) |
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| 03:16 | eythian | wahanui: welcome is <reply>Welcome to zombo.com |
| 03:16 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:16 | * cjh | keeps waiting |
| 03:18 | trea | anything? anything at all? |
| 03:18 | eythian | the only limitation is yourself, at zombo.com |
| 03:18 | trea | i knew it. |
| 03:18 | tv | |
| 03:18 | tv? | |
| 03:18 | bah | |
| 03:18 | wizzyrea | wahanui: tv? |
| 03:18 | wahanui | no idea, wizzyrea |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | aw |
| 03:19 | eythian | are you losing an argument with yourself? |
| 03:19 | wizzyrea | yea. |
| 03:19 | clearly | |
| 03:19 | trea | could be |
| 03:19 | cjh | if you are losing an argument with yourself, at least you are also winning. |
| 03:20 | * wizzyrea | blinks at zombo.com |
| 03:20 | cjh | wizzyrea: it is worth the wait. |
| 03:20 | wizzyrea | uhhuh |
| 03:21 | * ibeardslee | waits |
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| 04:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1175: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 13 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1175/ |
| 04:16 | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 10030 - MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding | |
| 04:16 | * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 10030: QA Followup for trivial false warning detected while testing | |
| 04:16 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Language update for 3.12-RC | |
| 04:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10030 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , MaxFines checks against amount, not amount outstanding |
| 04:16 | jenkins_koha | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Update 3.12 release notes for Koha 3.12.0-rc2 |
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| 06:28 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:29 | magnuse | jcamins++ druthb++ for rc2 |
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| 06:42 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:42 | marcelr | hello #koha |
| 06:43 | magnuse | bonjour! |
| 06:43 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 13.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 06:43 | @wunder marseille | |
| 06:43 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 13.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | magnuse | hah! |
| 06:46 | :-) | |
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| 06:53 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 06:53 | magnuse | bonjour christophe_c |
| 06:53 | marcelr | hi christophe_c |
| 06:53 | christophe_c | bonjour magnuse ;-) |
| 06:53 | marcelr | hi magnuse |
| 06:54 | christophe_c | hello marcelr |
| 06:54 | magnuse | hiya marcelr |
| 07:05 | rangi | evening |
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| 07:06 | huginn | GERMS!!!! |
| 07:06 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 07:07 | kf | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 07:07 | wahanui | thanks kf :) |
| 07:12 | magnuse | hi rangi and kf |
| 07:13 | alex_a | hello |
| 07:13 | wahanui | hey, alex_a |
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| 07:45 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-_x5pJe5Og |
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| 09:01 | * magnuse | imagins that everyone on #koha followed rangi's link and is now bouncing around on youtube :-) |
| 09:31 | kf | :) |
| 09:42 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 09:42 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (11:20 AM CEST on May 16, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
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| 10:56 | jcamins | What should I make for breakfast? |
| 10:58 | magnuse | pizza! |
| 10:59 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 10:59 | probably not. | |
| 11:00 | magnuse | awww... |
| 11:00 | jcamins | Myshkin has grabbed my sweater and pulled me down to nearly bent in half. |
| 11:01 | Apparently he really wants his ears scratched right now. | |
| 11:02 | magnuse | better prioritize that ocer breakfast then |
| 11:07 | kf_away | croissant? |
| 11:07 | jcamins | kf_away: yes, I'll just throw one together quickly... :P |
| 11:12 | * magnuse | wishes there was a way to make real croissants quickly ;-) |
| 11:12 | magnuse | or pain au chocolate |
| 11:12 | jcamins | magnuse: me too! If there were, I could have one for breakfast! |
| 11:12 | Mmmm. | |
| 11:13 | magnuse | hm, is it really "pain"? |
| 11:13 | jcamins | In more ways than one! :P |
| 11:13 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:13 | * magnuse | does not find pain au chocolate painful... ;-) |
| 11:13 | jcamins | Not when eating. |
| 11:13 | magnuse | oh the bakeries in marseille... |
| 11:14 | jcamins | When making, on the other hand... |
| 11:15 | slef | depends how many razor blades are put in it |
| 11:16 | jcamins: do you get Jus-Rol over there? | |
| 11:17 | jcamins | slef: I don't think so. Never heard of it. |
| 11:17 | It's based in Berwick-upon-Tweed! | |
| 11:17 | slef | yeah, but licensing spreads stuff everywhere |
| 11:18 | jcamins | Sure, but I've visited Berwick-upon-Tweed. Exciting! |
| 11:18 | slef | http://www.jusrol.co.uk/Produc[…]aspx?ProductId=33 |
| 11:18 | jcamins | Heh. I'd never be able to convince myself to use that. |
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| 11:19 | slef | I wouldn't bother with most of the pastry, but the pain au chocolate and the croissants are worth it, unless you like getting up earlier to do it properly. |
| 11:19 | jcamins | Which I do not. |
| 11:20 | slef | Is there any way to do the first steps of a dough overnight and then chill it? I've yet to find one that works well. |
| 11:21 | Anyway, I looked in because I'm trying to remember how to see if one string is in another in SQL :) | |
| 11:21 | Not to discuss morning goods! | |
| 11:21 | magnuse | #koha - the food channel :-) |
| 11:21 | marcelr | you have to eat :) |
| 11:22 | jcamins | There is, so long as you want want to make an artisan-style bread. Folded pastries like croissants are more problematic, I think. |
| 11:22 | slef: LOCATE('York', 'New York') | |
| 11:22 | slef | arrrrrrrrrgh it has just reminded me I've forgotten to start the bread baking for lunch though :) As soon as I've done this, I'll go sort that out |
| 11:22 | LOCATE! Doesn't involve STR at all! | |
| 11:23 | thanks jcamins | |
| 11:23 | jcamins: now you see, I thought they were pastries, but Jus-Rol label it "Dough" :-/ | |
| 11:26 | jcamins | Alas, I have no fruit. |
| 11:30 | slef | @quote add <jcamins> Alas, I have no fruit. |
| 11:30 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #249 added. |
| 11:30 | * slef | gets 0 lines from this report, goes to read the wiki again :-/ |
| 11:36 | jcamins | I do have blueberry jam, though. |
| 11:54 | * magnuse | just got "artisan bread in 5 minutes a day" in the mail |
| 11:54 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:54 | Maybe I should do that for tomorrow. | |
| 11:55 | kf_away | jcamins: did you see msaby's comment? |
| 11:55 | magnuse | i'm a little worried that the next book by the same people is called *healthy* bread in 5 minutes a day... ;-) |
| 11:55 | jcamins | kf_away: now I did. |
| 11:57 | magnuse: hehe. | |
| 11:57 | That's referring to the "healthy" craze in the US, not the actual healthfulness of the bread. | |
| 11:57 | magnuse | hehe |
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| 11:58 | magnuse | maybe they got hit by the low carb wave or something |
| 12:00 | slef | Do we have an easy way to spot unused authority headings? |
| 12:00 | depends how many razor blades are put in it | |
| 12:01 | magnuse | isn't there a syspref that decides if unused headings are displayed or not? |
| 12:01 | must be some logic connected to that | |
| 12:01 | * slef | looks |
| 12:01 | slef | OPACShowUnusedAuthorities |
| 12:03 | my @usedauths = grep { $_->{used} > 0 } @$results; | |
| 12:03 | where... | |
| 12:03 | my ( $results, $total, @fields ) = SearchAuthorities( \@marclist, \@and_or, \@excluding, \@operator, \@value, $startfrom * $resultsperpage, $resultsperpage, $authtypecode, $orderby ); | |
| 12:03 | so this is doable from perl | |
| 12:04 | is uses the zebra index | |
| 12:05 | which may be why trying to do it in a SQL report sucks... thank magnuse | |
| 12:05 | * slef | sends a "here's a perl script" reply |
| 12:06 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:07 | That would definitely make doing it via SQL problematic. | |
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| 12:17 | slef | I love it when library catalogues contain stuff like this "Lovenheim, Peter. 2024, Portrait of a burger as a young calf :, c2002" |
| 12:19 | jcamins | lol |
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| 12:24 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:25 | slef | hi Doctor oleonard! |
| 12:25 | kf_away | what did we miss? :) |
| 12:28 | oleonard | If I was given an honorary doctorate I must have missed the ceremony. |
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| 12:32 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:36 | jcamins: arond? | |
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| 12:36 | tcohen | s/o/ou/ |
| 12:36 | jcamins | I am. |
| 12:37 | tcohen | as you noted in that koha-* bug, i didn't notice I changed the semantics of several koha-* commands |
| 12:38 | basically, I output to stderr that no instances where specified | |
| 12:38 | i'd need to add a check or a redirection to devnull | |
| 12:38 | in in a very specific script that is run on install | |
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| 13:02 | slef | oleonard: I was usggesting it was fake, like doctor Nick in the Simpsons |
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| 13:03 | * oleonard | deflates |
| 13:04 | * kf_away | feels for 27point7 |
| 13:04 | kf_away | can we help him somehow? |
| 13:04 | he is talking about bug 7593 | |
| 13:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7593 major, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , merging bib records loses connection to order line |
| 13:05 | jcamins | I can't. |
| 13:05 | If you know data is missing you can post it on the bug. | |
| 13:05 | kf_away | no idea what jenkins has as data |
| 13:06 | jcamins | All the sample data, and nothing else. |
| 13:06 | kf_away | I think we should try and make this available somewhere at some pint |
| 13:06 | i think it has some items | |
| 13:06 | and records, but not totally sure | |
| 13:06 | jcamins | Yes, all the sample data. |
| 13:06 | Including the bibliographic data. | |
| 13:07 | kf_away | there is no bibiographic official sample data |
| 13:09 | magnuse | there are some records associated with tests |
| 13:09 | jcamins | Last time I ran an install I was very surprised to be asked if I wanted to install bibliographic records. |
| 13:09 | magnuse | huh? |
| 13:10 | jcamins | In addition to the usual options, there was an option to install sample bib records. |
| 13:10 | I presume it was added during 3.10 and I wasn't paying attention, because I certainly didn't push it. | |
| 13:11 | Anyway, anyone is welcome to document things however they like, so long as further questions are directed toward someone not me. | |
| 13:12 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:13 | * magnuse | can't see any sample records in installer/data/mysql/en/ |
| 13:13 | kf_away | jcamins: there is no such options |
| 13:13 | sorry to say that | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 13:13 | I wonder why I was offered one. | |
| 13:13 | Must've been a patch I failed. | |
| 13:13 | kf_away | hm maybe only en? |
| 13:14 | jcamins | If you want a copy of an out-of-date Jenkins database, it is available at kohadev.cpbibliography.com/jenkinsdb.sql.bz2 for a few days more. |
| 13:14 | kf_away | hm don't find any on master |
| 13:15 | * jcamins | shrugs. Must've been something I was testing at some point. |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Wow. Over a thousand patches in 3.12. |
| 13:16 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:17 | jcamins | Not counting merges. |
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| 13:18 | tcohen | OMG |
| 13:18 | that's a lot of human labour! | |
| 13:19 | kf_away | it is :) |
| 13:19 | tcohen | jcamins: do I remove the check or add one in koha-common.init? |
| 13:19 | kf_away | koha is awesome :) |
| 13:21 | magnuse | it is :-) |
| 13:24 | jcamins | tcohen: it's up to you. I don't have a strong opinion either way. |
| 13:25 | tcohen | ack jcamins |
| 13:26 | magnuse | there are test records at least in t/db_dependent/www/data/ and t/db_dependent/Record/testrecords/ |
| 13:26 | jcamins | magnuse: yeah, but those are for unit tests. |
| 13:26 | magnuse | the first one has one each for marc21 and unimarc, there are more in the second dir |
| 13:27 | jcamins | I don't doubt that those are the ones on Jenkins, though I never looked at the second to see what they are. |
| 13:27 | I *do* doubt. | |
| 13:27 | magnuse | this was mostly in reply to kf saying "there is no bibiographic official sample data" :-) |
| 13:27 | jcamins | I shouldn't have revised my statement from "I don't think" to "I doubt." It just results in confusion. |
| 13:27 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:35 | oleonard | Hey, you know who's a string-safe patch that still needs signoff? Bug 9773 is a string-safe patch that still needs signoff! |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9773 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace YUI AJAX calls in cataloging plugins with jQuery |
| 13:35 | jcamins | You know what other string-safe patches still could do with sign offs? |
| 13:35 | Bug 9452 and bug 10230. | |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9452 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , C4::Letters does not function under Plack |
| 13:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10230 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Match points do not work with authorities | |
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| 13:49 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:49 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #190: "<jcamins> Hehe. Guillotine: the revolutionary card game you win by getting a head <asaurat> lol <asaurat> I mean mdr" (added by slef at 03:46 PM, February 28, 2012) |
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| 14:03 | Viktor | Having a sort of embarrassing problem - can't seem to get Kyles virtual appliance to work in Virtual box? |
| 14:10 | kf_away | Viktor: sorry - have never used it |
| 14:10 | khall around? | |
| 14:10 | khall | what's up? |
| 14:11 | kf_away | oh that worked fast :D |
| 14:11 | Viktor has a problem with the virtual appliance and I thought noone would know better than you :) | |
| 14:11 | khall | heh ; ) |
| 14:11 | Viktor | Wow :) |
| 14:11 | khall | what's the issue? Is it a networking problem? |
| 14:11 | Viktor | khall Yes. Did not get any IP address. |
| 14:12 | Tried some different networking settings in virtualbox | |
| 14:12 | khall | did you try the option in the Koha shell menu that's supposed to fix it? |
| 14:12 | it's an issue with Debian, | |
| 14:12 | Viktor | But can't seem to find the hotwos that I think used to be on your site back in 2009 or so :) |
| 14:12 | Yes I did. | |
| 14:13 | Just | |
| 14:14 | Just tried some random stuff from the webb but no real help there. | |
| 14:14 | sudo sh -c ?cat /dev/null > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules? | |
| 14:14 | khall | yeah, that's the one |
| 14:14 | Viktor | Tried it and powered the machine off and booted. Still nothing :/ |
| 14:15 | khall | if you run '/sbin/ifconfig' do you see eth0? |
| 14:16 | Viktor | Yes I do. |
| 14:16 | (and it's bridged to WiFi in virtualbox) | |
| 14:17 | khall | ok, that's good and bad. It means it's not a problem with the virtual appliance, but with your virtualbox configuration. That bad is that I probably can't help you any further. |
| 14:17 | Have you tried setting it to NAT instead? | |
| 14:17 | jcamins | Viktor: are you trying to access it from the same computer you're running VirtualBox on? |
| 14:17 | Viktor | My college tried NAT yesterday on his computer and got an IP but no response when accessing it on the host computer. |
| 14:18 | khall | that makes sense, |
| 14:18 | Viktor | I tried NAT before executing the command stated above - nothing. Might be worth a new shot. |
| 14:18 | khall | NAT will only let the VM access the outside world, not visa versa |
| 14:18 | Viktor | Do you know anything on what issues I should research? |
| 14:18 | khall | so, for that config, you need a NATed network interface, and a local network interface |
| 14:19 | Viktor | I see. |
| 14:19 | khall | that is, a Host-Only Adapter |
| 14:20 | jcamins | You can also forward ports with NATed network interfaces, though I always use NAT + Host-Only Adapter. |
| 14:20 | khall | so you will have two virtual networking interfaces, one lets the VM access the outside world, and the other let's the host machine access the VM |
| 14:21 | Viktor | Hm. Setting up stuff like that is a bit outside my area of expertise :) |
| 14:22 | jcamins | Not for long! :D |
| 14:22 | Viktor | Guess I'll fool around a bit further with the settings in VirtualBox. |
| 14:22 | jcamins :) | |
| 14:23 | khall | I understand. Just go into the VirtualBox network configuration, and enable adapter 1 as NAT, and adapter 2 as Host-only Adapter. Then boot it up and run /sbin/ifconfig. You should see eth0 and eth1 |
| 14:23 | type the ip of eth1 into a web browser on your host machine and you should be good to go | |
| 14:24 | Viktor | Hm. Wont let me save that config "invalid settings detected" |
| 14:25 | If i disable all network interfaces it says "non-optimal settings detected" but won't help me identify what the non-optimal ones are. | |
| 14:26 | Fresh install of VirtualBox on a new machine and the virtual appliance with no changes. | |
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| 14:34 | jcamins | Viktor: if you go through each tab, it will tell you what settings are invalid. |
| 14:37 | Viktor | jcamins - I think so too. But I see nothing. Just the red ! at the bottom with "Non-optimal settings detected". Nothing lights up in any of the tabs and the text can't be clicked. Clicking the question mark produces the manual but no context. |
| 14:38 | tcohen | jcamins: bug 10259 |
| 14:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10259 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , koha-*-zebra scripts are expected to run without warnings if no instance name passed |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Odd. On my system it will tell me "not enough RAM/duplicate MAC/etc." |
| 14:38 | tcohen: thanks! | |
| 14:40 | Viktor | jcamins - It's happier now with the non-optimal stuff since I pulled up the amount of video memory. But that shouldn't help with the networking I think... |
| 14:41 | jcamins | Viktor: no, but it will make it stop complaining, anyway. |
| 14:41 | :) | |
| 14:41 | Viktor | Lol yeah :) |
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| 14:45 | tcohen | @later tell rangi you forgot to mention tagging |
| 14:45 | huginn | tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:53 | tcohen | jcamins, do release maintainers need a gpg key? |
| 14:53 | jcamins | tcohen: yes. |
| 14:53 | You have to sign your tags, tarballs, and potentially packages. | |
| 14:53 | tcohen | great |
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| 15:03 | pianohacker | mornin' |
| 15:03 | * oleonard | welcomes pianohacker back to the ole salt mines |
| 15:04 | Viktor | Thanks for the help people! The best I managed was to get 10.0.2.15 but not being able to connect to it. I'll fool around some more but have to run now. |
| 15:06 | kf_away | morning pianohacker |
| 15:06 | hm wondering, does this column name still make sense with hourly loans? Fine grace period (day) | |
| 15:07 | * druthb | waves at kf_away, who is clearly kf_not_away |
| 15:07 | kf_away | oh yeah |
| 15:07 | pianohacker | hi druthb, kf |
| 15:07 | kf | i was |
| 15:07 | druthb | hi, pianohacker! :D |
| 15:08 | kf | The 'Fine Grace Period' is the period of time an item can be overdue before you start charging fines. Important: This can only be set for the Day unit, not in Hours < so it probably is sitll right |
| 15:08 | jcamins | kf: right, it's still days-only. |
| 15:13 | kf | all libraries want to have different fines for each notice level :( |
| 15:13 | it's driving me crazy to tell them 'no you can't do that' | |
| 15:13 | *sigh* | |
| 15:14 | slef | but they can... just tell them the estimated price of adding it... puts most libraries off "nah, it's not that important" |
| 15:14 | jcamins | ^^ works every time |
| 15:15 | kf | heh |
| 15:18 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:18 | oleonard | That's why Koha doesn't have NCIP support (and we've never missed it) |
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| 15:28 | Dyrcona | kf: You could always migrate to Evergreen.... ;) |
| 15:29 | * oleonard | stones Dyrcona for heresy |
| 15:29 | * druthb | hands oleonard more rocks. |
| 15:30 | Dyrcona | Help, help! I'm being repressed! :p |
| 15:30 | * Dyrcona | gets in trouble in #evergreen for suggesting new people also look at Koha before deciding on an ILS. |
| 15:30 | * oleonard | switches to smaller rocks |
| 15:30 | Dyrcona | :) |
| 15:32 | kf | oleonard: aren't smaller rocks meaner actually? |
| 15:32 | .) | |
| 15:32 | oleonard | Geez, everyone complained when I threw peanut M&Ms too. I can't win! |
| 15:32 | kf | Dyrcona: I think my head can only store all the config options for one ILS |
| 15:32 | limited memory up there :) | |
| 15:33 | oleonard | Last week someone added a new system pref to Koha and it made me forget how to use a microwave. |
| 15:33 | kf | lol |
| 15:34 | * kf | does neither have a microwave nor a tv... |
| 15:37 | kf | and now I am leaving :) |
| 15:37 | bye all | |
| 15:37 | and Dyrcona++ for getting in trouble in #evergreen :) | |
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| 18:07 | oleonard | Never do I hate Windows more than when I'm searching for a file. |
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| 19:08 | tcohen | best feed reader? |
| 19:08 | pianohacker | feedly atm |
| 19:08 | oleonard | The one that suits your needs and doesn't rely on Google Reader. |
| 19:09 | tcohen | i need one i can tag feeds, like "this goes for 3.12" |
| 19:09 | pianohacker | yeah, and the latter knocks out about half of them unfortunately |
| 19:09 | tag feeds or posts? | |
| 19:09 | what do you use, oleonard | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | I think Tiny Tiny RSS is the best FOSS option at the moment |
| 19:10 | I've tried it, but it | |
| 19:10 | was pretty clunky | |
| 19:10 | * gmcharlt | likes TT-RSS |
| 19:10 | gmcharlt | and it's now getting some quick updates because of the attention |
| 19:11 | pianohacker | tt-rss does sound like quality, though the hearsay is that the devs are a bit grouchy |
| 19:11 | oleonard | I've been using Fever because I wanted something self-hosted, although it isn't free: http://feedafever.com/ |
| 19:11 | jcamins | I like TT-RSS. |
| 19:11 | tcohen | i want to set my rmaint toolbox |
| 19:12 | oleonard | I also like Fever because there's a nice app for iOS which works well with it. |
| 19:12 | * oleonard | is full of heresy today, Dyrcona should gather some stones. |
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| 19:13 | * maximep | likes what a colleague at work is doing https://github.com/fcapovilla/caporss |
| 19:14 | pianohacker | iOS heresy? |
| 19:14 | oleonard | non-free |
| 19:15 | * jcamins | shakes his head dolefull. For shame for shame. |
| 19:15 | pianohacker | okay. can't do much about non-free, but iOS use in this channel is punishable by snide comments about Swype |
| 19:15 | tcohen | swype++ |
| 19:16 | jcamins | *dolefully |
| 19:16 | s/shame for/shame, for/ | |
| 19:17 | oleonard | s/head/distinguished melon |
| 19:22 | rangi | rss2email + procmail is what i use |
| 19:23 | tcohen: you dont tag until you release, wasnt planning to cover that until its closer to time for you do a release | |
| 19:23 | tcohen | great rangi |
| 19:24 | jcamins | That reminds me. I remembered in the middle of the night I forgot to push the tags for the RCs. |
| 19:25 | ... and I don't see them at all. | |
| 19:25 | Hmm. | |
| 19:27 | * jcamins | creates new ones, pushes them. |
| 19:32 | tcohen | rangi, you run r2e from a cronjob? |
| 19:32 | rangi | yep |
| 19:33 | oleonard | rangi: I submitted a couple of 3.10.x versions of patches that didn't apply, but I wasn't sure if they needed new signoffs. I recreated them from scratch so they don't have the original signoffs on them. |
| 19:33 | Was there a more correct way of handling that? | |
| 19:33 | rangi | thats the new rmaints problem :) or at least i wont be pushing them before the 3.10.6 release |
| 19:34 | nope thats the right way | |
| 19:34 | oleonard | Should they get new signoffs? |
| 19:35 | rangi | depends on how complex they are |
| 19:35 | basically thats a judgement call from the rmaint | |
| 19:48 | pianohacker | Is Koha::Cache intended as a replacement for C4::Context->memcached? |
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| 19:48 | lavamind | hello |
| 19:48 | wahanui | hi, lavamind |
| 19:49 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_master now |
| 19:49 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now |
| 19:49 | rangi | pianohacker: yes |
| 19:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1176 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1164 10 days ago) |
| 19:50 | lavamind | I run about 150 Koha instances on a server for teaching (every student has an instance), but the zebra_rebuild processes weight heavily on the server, but now I just dicovered this : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6566 (Checking if DB records are properly indexed) |
| 19:50 | huginn | 04Bug 6566: enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , Checking if DB records are properly indexed |
| 19:50 | lavamind | can I use this script to re-index *only when needed* ? |
| 19:51 | rangi | it should only index when needed anyway |
| 19:51 | ie, it does incremental indexing | |
| 19:51 | you are using the debian packages right? | |
| 19:51 | lavamind | rangi: yes, and reindexing through a cronjob |
| 19:51 | tcohen | lavamind: you need to use koha-index-daemon from Koha::Contrib::Tamil |
| 19:51 | pianohacker | rangi: Okay. It seems like the only way to use the cache robustly is to use Koha::Cache->is_cache_active, but that depends on the CACHING_SYSTEM env variable being set, which is not mentioned anywhere outside of Koha/Cache.pm. Am I missing something? |
| 19:52 | jcamins | pianohacker: you are not. |
| 19:52 | is_cache_active is my least-favorite part of the caching system. | |
| 19:52 | And, for the record, not my idea. | |
| 19:52 | pianohacker | Has memcached been made de-facto-required? |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 19:53 | Completely optional. | |
| 19:53 | tcohen | because the process spawn for every call to rebuild_zebra will make the server load go high |
| 19:53 | memcached is not supported by the default install method (packages) | |
| 19:53 | jcamins | pianohacker: is_cache_active is used to check whether you should even try to use the cache. |
| 19:53 | pianohacker | That's what I figured; which makes the choices kind of crappy |
| 19:53 | jcamins | pianohacker: what are you trying to do? |
| 19:53 | pianohacker | RightR |
| 19:53 | rangi | lavamind: hmm you have your own cron job, not just using the one that comes set up wih the packages? |
| 19:54 | lavamind | rangi, tcohen: I'm using the default cronjob : test -x /usr/sbin/koha-rebuild-zebra && koha-rebuild-zebra $(koha-list --enabled) |
| 19:54 | rangi | tcohen: yes i use memcached with packages, you just edit config, same as with tarball |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | sorry about that, irc had a hiccup |
| 19:54 | jcamins | pianohacker: in that case, you might not have seen me ask what you were trying to do. |
| 19:54 | lavamind | I had to set it to */15 instead of */5 because it was killing the server |
| 19:54 | pianohacker | jcamins: caching of oauth token for a search API |
| 19:55 | jcamins | pianohacker: ah-ha. |
| 19:55 | tcohen | tarball install provides you a way of getting it work out-of-the-box |
| 19:55 | check bug 8773 lavamind | |
| 19:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 19:55 | rangi | lavamind: the problem is it has to connect to the db to check to see if it needs to index |
| 19:56 | pianohacker | The choices seem to be either use context->memcached, which is the old way but won't break, or try to use Koha/Cache.pm and be ready to catch an error with eval{} if ($@) |
| 19:56 | tcohen | you might tweak the koha-common init script the same way those patches do |
| 19:56 | rangi | tcohen: only for one single instance, otherwise its busted and 2 instances use the same cache namespace |
| 19:56 | jcamins | pianohacker: don't use context->memcached. |
| 19:56 | tcohen | and use koha-index-daemon |
| 19:56 | heh | |
| 19:56 | I use the instance name as namespace | |
| 19:56 | was for rangi) | |
| 19:56 | rangi | tcohen: for the tarball |
| 19:57 | you said it can set it up | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | If you use that directly, you're ruling out any alternative caching systems. |
| 19:57 | rangi | i say it does it wrong if you have 2 installs |
| 19:57 | tcohen | rangi: the tarball asks for a namespaec |
| 19:57 | pianohacker | jcamins: That's my understanding, so I'll just use a "try-catch" |
| 19:57 | lavamind | tcohen: yes, Koha::Contrib::Tamil sounds like exactly what I need |
| 19:57 | jcamins | That's the best bet. |
| 19:57 | tcohen | we have a pre-packages setup with 38 instances |
| 19:58 | we use koha_<instance> as namespace | |
| 19:58 | and use koha-index-daemon for the reindexing | |
| 19:58 | 10 sec interval | |
| 19:58 | rangi | how do you upgrade? 38 make upgrades? |
| 19:59 | tcohen | before i got here (and moved everyone to git) we deployed stuff using SVN |
| 19:59 | right now we continue to do it like that | |
| 19:59 | rangi | eeeeeew |
| 19:59 | tcohen | i do a standard install in /usr/share/koha_xxx |
| 19:59 | and put that on SVN | |
| 20:00 | then the upgrade scripts fix every koha_xxx for the right instance name | |
| 20:00 | lavamind | I use a Puppet class over here |
| 20:00 | pianohacker | Is it a horrible Perl practice to return undef from a constructor if things went pear-shaped? That would be a handy modification to Koha::Cache->new |
| 20:00 | rangi | i use a apt-get update |
| 20:00 | and apt-get install koha-common | |
| 20:00 | done :) | |
| 20:00 | lavamind | when I upgrade I ensure => absent all instance |
| 20:00 | tcohen | we are moving to packages with 3.12 |
| 20:00 | rangi | cool |
| 20:01 | tcohen | but, will be building our own until 8773 is included |
| 20:01 | rangi | the problem with that is |
| 20:01 | tcohen | (or something that replaces it of course) |
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| 20:01 | rangi | it makes koha dependent on moose |
| 20:01 | jcamins | pianohacker: that's a good question. I don't see why. |
| 20:01 | I mean, I don't see why that's bad. | |
| 20:02 | tcohen | yes rangi, that's why that patch got the lines commented |
| 20:02 | rangi | yep |
| 20:03 | so what someone needs to do, is package Koha::Contrib::Tamil | |
| 20:03 | and all its dependencies | |
| 20:03 | tcohen | eythian did that already |
| 20:03 | rangi | its not clean |
| 20:03 | it fights with the moose needed for solr | |
| 20:04 | tcohen | oh c'mon, so we have moose already ? :-D |
| 20:04 | rangi | no |
| 20:04 | its an optional thing, just like this would have to be | |
| 20:04 | because moose while great for programming in | |
| 20:04 | lavamind | tcohen: I'm running 3.8.6, references to koha-*-indexer are absent from the initscript, can I just add them in ? |
| 20:04 | rangi | is slow as hell |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Not to mention, you need different versions. |
| 20:05 | rangi | and that |
| 20:05 | tcohen | of course lavamind, but make sure Puppet fixes stuff when you upgrade |
| 20:05 | lavamind | un, I just apt-get installed libkoha-contrib-tamil-perl |
| 20:05 | rangi | i wonder if we could do it with mouse |
| 20:05 | maybe tchohen and I will fix that at hackfest :) | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | rangi: I liked mouse better than moose anyway. |
| 20:05 | lavamind | tcohen: yep good call |
| 20:05 | rangi | its a zillion times faster |
| 20:06 | jcamins | That's why I liked it. |
| 20:06 | Other than that, they both seem to over-promise. | |
| 20:06 | tcohen | i have (the first) appointment with the US embassy @ Buenos Aires by May 28 |
| 20:06 | rangi | excellent |
| 20:06 | yeah | |
| 20:07 | http://search.cpan.org/~noirin[…]1.2/lib/perl5i.pm | |
| 20:07 | hehe | |
| 20:08 | but it would be nice to get that 8773 as a recommends, that conflicts with the solr stuff | |
| 20:09 | pianohacker | tcohen: Appointment with the US embassy? |
| 20:09 | rangi | so if you wanted it it's there, but acknowledge the fact you cant use it an solr together .. currently |
| 20:09 | jcamins | For a visa! |
| 20:09 | tcohen | i had to pay for the visa and choose a date to go to buenos aires |
| 20:10 | its two consecutive days | |
| 20:10 | (2 interviews) | |
| 20:10 | pianohacker | oh, cool. irritating that it's that much work though |
| 20:11 | tcohen | i'll take a day to visit my family there, not big deal |
| 20:11 | rangi | right now im really leaving :) |
| 20:12 | tcohen | pianohacker: did I mention the two meetings in cordoba? |
| 20:14 | lavamind: how living with Puppet is? | |
| 20:15 | is it difficult to deploy/maintain? | |
| 20:15 | pianohacker | tcohen: no, don't think so |
| 20:16 | tcohen | our production guys are a bit reluctant to implement it |
| 20:16 | (at least they are trying openstack for our datacenter) | |
| 20:18 | pianohacker | jcamins: Come to think of it, the module isn't robust in general; the tied scalars/hashes require an existing $cache, which can't happen unless caching is enabled |
| 20:19 | jcamins | pianohacker: error-checking is always welcome. |
| 20:20 | However, as far as I am aware, it works perfectly with caching disabled. | |
| 20:20 | There is simply no caching. | |
| 20:21 | I had hoped that some of the people who were pushing Plack would build on that to make Koha's codebase generally Plack-compatible, but in hindsight that was mostly just a time-consuming way for me to learn about variable tying. | |
| 20:21 | lavamind | tcohen: I couldn't do my job without Puppet, it's a life saver |
| 20:22 | pianohacker | jcamins: really? I could be doing something wrong, but it seems like if Cache::Memcached::Fast is installed, new() will always try to load and use it, regardless of whether it's set up |
| 20:23 | lavamind | tcohen: one thing I love about Puppet is that it's like documenting your setup at the same time |
| 20:24 | pianohacker | constructing tied variables using Koha::Cache->create_scalar, per the original patch notes, fails with a "can't use string as ref" error |
| 20:24 | lavamind | and no it wasn't difficult to set up, everything is packaged in Debian including backports |
| 20:24 | jcamins | pianohacker: I can't say I particularly recall now, but it will not _use_ the cache unless caching is enabled. |
| 20:24 | Hm. | |
| 20:24 | Guess a patch is needed, then. | |
| 20:24 | lavamind | tcohen: can I find the koha-*-indexer scripts somewhere other than the diff files ? |
| 20:24 | pianohacker | okay, thanks. Just trying to figure out if I was misunderstanding, or whether there was a bug |
| 20:25 | as it's the former more often than the latter some days :) | |
| 20:25 | jcamins | pianohacker: it could be either, but I'd suspect the latter. In the intervening months I have reviewed about 700 patches. |
| 20:25 | (so I simply don't remember) | |
| 20:25 | tcohen | lavamind: let me put them somewhere, i see the patch doesn't apply anymore |
| 20:26 | pianohacker | Your name's in the author field, you're supposed to have a perfect memory of what it is and how it works |
| 20:26 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:28 | Also, a point about Koha::Cache versus Koha::Cache::Object... the latter is mostly to simplify the painful job of making Plack + memcached not disastrous. There is no reason not to use Koha::Cache directly for cache access, if you're designing around the idea of caching from the start. | |
| 20:30 | pianohacker | makes sense |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Indeed, using Koha::Cache directly is more efficient. |
| 20:30 | Tying variables is expensive. | |
| 20:30 | It's just less expensive than a cron job that restart Plack every five minutes. | |
| 20:30 | pianohacker | hah! True that |
| 20:31 | How does the koha-with-persistence work go, anyway? That was just starting when I left last time | |
| 20:31 | jcamins | And insignificant next to the amount of time it takes Apache to start. |
| 20:31 | tcohen | lavamind: es.koha-community.org/koha-indexer-scripts.tar.gz |
| 20:31 | http://es.koha-community.org/k[…]er-scripts.tar.gz | |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Koha's OPAC works mostly with Plack. |
| 20:31 | I run into problems with the staff client under Plack daily, or at least weekly. | |
| 20:32 | pianohacker | makes sense, much more complicated code |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Unfortunately, we announced complete compatibility for 3.10. |
| 20:32 | pianohacker | ... oh |
| 20:33 | tcohen | can you get it lavamind ? |
| 20:33 | jcamins | On the plus side, Plack on the staff client works way better than it used to. |
| 20:34 | lavamind | tcohen: yes, thank you, I'm reviewing the scripts carefully :) |
| 20:35 | tcohen: our usernames have the format koha_username, is that a problem ? | |
| 20:36 | actually nevermind, the system users are username-koha | |
| 20:36 | tcohen | are u using packages? |
| 20:36 | lavamind | yes |
| 20:36 | tcohen | ok ok |
| 20:36 | lavamind | I was confusing the logins... it's been a while since I haven't touched the Koha stuff |
| 20:36 | since I have* | |
| 20:38 | tcohen | we could use this one instead of the moose-dependent code from tamil http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=17790 |
| 20:38 | lavamind | oh boy, will this work ? it'll spawn 111 daemons :p |
| 20:38 | tcohen | and build a new indexer daemon |
| 20:38 | it will lavamind | |
| 20:38 | :-P | |
| 20:39 | lavamind: you could try runnning that for one instance for testing? | |
| 20:39 | lavamind | yes, about to. |
| 20:43 | tcohen: 20130516 16:43:16 prof-koha-indexer: client (pid 3661) exited with 2 status | |
| 20:44 | tcohen | koha-indexer-daemon-output.log? |
| 20:45 | lavamind | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC ..... |
| 20:46 | seems like deja-vu ... | |
| 20:47 | tcohen | if you prepend "export " to the KOHA_CONF definition? |
| 20:47 | (on koha-start-indexer) | |
| 20:47 | bbl, sorry | |
| 21:00 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 21:00 | Project Koha_master build #1176: FIXED in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1176/ | |
| 21:15 | JesseM_away left #koha | |
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| 21:37 | pianohacker | maximep: caporss looks quite interesting; do you have any screenshots or anything similar? |
| 21:39 | laurence left #koha | |
| 21:40 | rangi | back |
| 21:42 | pianohacker | augh, the issues-rules table has exploded in the past two years |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | heh yea |
| 21:46 | * pianohacker | gets an itch to do crazy things to the admin interface again |
| 21:47 | cait | pianohacker: sounds like an excellent idea to me :) |
| 21:53 | maximep | pianohacker: I can ask him to add a few to github. It basically looks like greader, but with bootstrap |
| 21:54 | pianohacker | maximep: That's pretty clear, actually |
| 21:55 | greader with better color choice and border-radius, essentially? | |
| 21:56 | maximep | basically :p |
| 21:56 | pianohacker | awesome :) |
| 21:56 | maximep | he has 0 design/html/css skills, so really default bootstrap |
| 22:04 | pianohacker | ^^ use case of bootstrap |
| 22:04 | plus laziness/lack of time, but mainly that | |
| 22:17 | eythian | rangi, trea: you remembered it's whisky o'clock this evening? |
| 22:17 | * trea | points to the bottle of balvenie behind him. |
| 22:18 | pianohacker | ? |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | "dudes drinking whisky" |
| 22:18 | and possibly some chicks. | |
| 22:18 | at a specified o'clock | |
| 22:19 | pianohacker | self-explanatory enough, then :) Any particular reason? |
| 22:19 | eythian | because friday |
| 22:19 | trea | because....reasons |
| 22:20 | pianohacker | oh, right, international date line |
| 22:20 | timezones-- | |
| 22:20 | cait | timezones++ |
| 22:20 | lol | |
| 22:20 | timezones-- timezones-- | |
| 22:20 | i typoed | |
| 22:21 | pianohacker | My favorite timezones moment was trying to schedule something with people in the US, France and India |
| 22:21 | and the cute little "optimum meeting scheduler" showed all three 8-hour workdays right next to each other, with absolutely no overlap | |
| 22:22 | eythian | wahanui: new zealand is <reply>http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4[…]ng-in-new-zealand |
| 22:22 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:22 | pianohacker | very much a "somebody's going to drink a lot of coffee that day" moment |
| 22:25 | okay, what is going on in #24 and how is it legal | |
| 22:26 | cjh | "suits $20 not stolen" cant get much better. |
| 22:26 | rangi | how else do you expect students to shift house pianohacker |
| 22:26 | cjh | pianohacker: well it isnt overhanging the front of his vehicle... |
| 22:26 | pianohacker | Is that a full-size refrigerator? Good lord |
| 22:26 | rangi | it is |
| 22:26 | cjh | although I am not sure about the visibility concerns. |
| 22:27 | rangi | and a lawn mower on the roof |
| 22:30 | eythian | nah, you'd be able to see out the driver's window |
| 22:38 | bag | it's a baby zebra!!! |
| 23:10 | talljoy | bre |
| 23:10 | oops. my bad. | |
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| 23:37 | rangi | i didnt even know this existed |
| 23:37 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]a3/duplicates.cgi | |
| 23:38 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 23:39 | eythian | oh nifty |
| 23:41 | * jcamins | curses Time Warner. |
| 23:41 | jcamins | They have found a new and creative way to drive me nuts. |
| 23:42 | They poisoned Google's DNS. | |
| 23:42 | eythian | oh? |
| 23:42 | jcamins | Well, Google's records in their DNS. |
| 23:42 | wizzyrea | O.O |
| 23:42 | jcamins | The DNS records are actually valid, but about 1 in 10 connection attempts succeeds. |
| 23:43 | eythian | change your DNS to another provider? |
| 23:43 | wahanui | eythian: that doesn't look right |
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| 23:43 | jcamins | eythian: yep, did that. |
| 23:43 | eythian | wahanui: sorry, but it is. |
| 23:43 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
| 23:44 | eythian | jcamins: and are they still being weird? |
| 23:44 | jcamins | It's better, though not perfect. |
| 23:46 | wizzyrea | have you checked the twitterz for other reports of such nonsense |
| 23:46 | jcamins | And as soon as I said that, it went screwy. |
| 23:46 | I have not. Good idea. | |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea | "turning off google DNS fixed my internet" from 5 hours ago |
| 23:48 | jcamins | Yeah, I was noticing that. |
| 23:48 | So... | |
| 23:48 | Google's DNS is at fault, and Time Warner is using it? | |
| 23:48 | wizzyrea | perhaps the problem has recurred. |
| 23:48 | jcamins | Bahahahahaha!!!!! |
| 23:48 | Nah, it was a problem this morning, too. | |
| 23:51 | (so I'm thinking it is not a reoccurrence so much as still going on) |
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