IRC log for #koha, 2013-05-01

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00:13 druthb_away joined #koha
00:15 dcook Hey ya druthb :)
00:15 druthb Hi, dcook!
00:16 dcook How're things?
00:16 druthb perkin' along! You?
00:18 dcook No complaints here. Working on getting Prosentient's code more in line with the community, so I'm quite pleased ^_^
00:29 jcamins eythian: yeah, that'd do it too, but since I'm not going to be the one taking on that task, and we're volunteer-driven, NOMAIL seems the more effective option.
00:29 eythian Not really, it would make the S/N ratio even worse.
00:31 jcamins eythian: that assumes that I contribute to the signal more than the noise...
00:32 It troubles me that my backup of ~5GB of data is taking ages.
00:32 druthb: I'll probably be asking you to update the strings in Pootle Thursday morning-ish. Sound good?
00:33 druthb Just fine-ish! :D
00:34 jcamins Well- I'll ask you to update the strings tomorrow evening, but it'll be evening so I figure that'll translate to updating Thursday morning.
00:37 bgkriegel jcamins: any chance for bug 6709?
00:37 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Passed QA , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
00:37 jcamins bgkriegel: everything that has passed QA by 6am tomorrow will go in before string freeze.
00:38 That is, the strings will not be frozen before they go in.
00:38 bgkriegel good :-)
00:39 jcamins ... the world is a weird place.
00:43 dcook bgkriegel: Do you know if any of your changes might impact bug 10141
00:43 ?
00:43 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10141 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Enable "18-21 Illustrations" and "24-27 Nature of contents" options for marc21_field_008.pl plugin
00:43 jcamins My instinct is "yes, very much."
00:44 bgkriegel looking
00:45 the information in xml is the same, only different structure
00:47 dcook Right. Hmm. I don't know if it will make too much of a difference
00:47 the 18-21 and 24-27 positions will need some sort of option picker rather than a drop-down
00:48 bgkriegel the display is made with JS. the file is fully parsed, all data available. problem is how to show it
00:49 and allow correct selection
00:49 jcamins Whoah, nice! I failed very few patches!
00:51 (I consider this a great success)
00:52 dcook bgkriegel: Agreed. Admittedly, I'm not quite sure how that works with the marc21_field_008.pl file :/
00:53 bgkriegel have anyone tried bug 7419. really don't know how to test it (my problem is the syntax)
00:53 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7419 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Add authority deduplication script
00:53 bgkriegel dcook: all the magic is on marc21_field_008.tt
00:53 jcamins bgkriegel: I would like to test it again, but not recently.
00:56 mtj meh, anyone bumped into 'Batch item modification - Too many items!' before?
00:57 jcamins mtj: wow, how many items?
00:57 bgkriegel dcook: sorry, look at prog/en/js/xmlControlfield.js
00:57 mtj jcamins, well  - 5000-ish
00:57 jcamins mtj: huh. That doesn't seem like it should be too many.
00:58 Oh, wait.
00:58 mtj the full error was...
00:58 jcamins It's not too many items, it's that the list is too large to display.
00:58 That makes sense.
00:58 mtj Batch item modification - Too many items (5197): not displaying each one individually.
00:58 Return to batch item modification
00:58 dcook bgkriegel: Thanks. Yeah, I'm looking at that on your patch
00:58 I'll have to take another look when I look at making a fix
00:59 mtj no probs for not displaying that giant list - but theres no functionality also :/
00:59 jcamins Hm.
00:59 I should do a mockup of the "download for offline" screen.
01:01 mtj: definitely sounds like a bug.
01:01 mtj fyi, 1000 barcodes works  - 5000 barcodes doesnt...
01:01 jcamins What would the download for offline screen look like?
01:01 mtj there just be a hardcoded $fail value , somewhere
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01:13 mtj hmm, i need a brainslap here
01:14 /tool/batchMod.pl is asking for a tools/batchMod-edit.tmpl file
01:14 which is an obvious bug
01:15 as, there is no tools/batchMod-edit.tmpl anymore
01:15 there is a ./prog/en/modules/tools/batchMod.tt file  - but the script never appears to call it ?!
01:15 jcamins .tmpl => .tt
01:16 Almost all the scripts refer to .tmpl instead of .tt.
01:16 mtj exactly, so where is the magical s/tmpl/tt/ rewrite happening?
01:16 jcamins C4::Templates, presumably.
01:16 Somewhere, anyway. Those need to get changed eventually, but aren't a bug by themselves.
01:17 mtj ah, ok - i havent spotted that, till now
01:18 thanks
01:18 jcamins You're welcome.
01:22 dcook mtj: That freaked me out the first time I noticed it
01:23 mtj yeah, i have a wtf moment - for sure
01:23 dcook sub gettemplate
01:23 $tmplbase =~ s/\.tmpl$/.tt/;
01:23 in C4::Templates
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01:32 eythian wahanui: television is at http://neave.com/television/
01:32 wahanui OK, eythian.
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01:39 jcamins Hm. I just thought of a problem with the offline circ the way I was envisioning it.
01:40 How do you make sure that all the transactions uploaded correctly?
01:42 (not a rhetorical question)
01:45 dcook It is a good question
01:45 * dcook waves to tcohen
01:45 * jcamins knows. He's the one who posed it. :P
01:54 dcook :P
02:23 jcamins It looks like BibLibre decided to record transactions one at a time.
02:37 drojf joined #koha
02:37 jcamins o.O
02:37 Isn't it a bit late, drojf?
02:38 drojf jcamins: it's early ;)
02:38 jcamins Ah.
02:39 drojf i don't know how to expess my appreciation for the "'automatic' upgrade" thread
02:39 eythian "the sound of one hand clapping"?
02:39 drojf hehe
02:40 wizzyrea can someone explain to me how a biblio with "no images attached" returns a 1px image?
02:40 jcamins wizzyrea: "no image" is a 1px transparent image.
02:40 At the request of oleonard.
02:41 It's an accessibility thing, I think.
02:41 wizzyrea ah. is that recent?
02:41 jcamins No.
02:41 wizzyrea good.
02:41 thank you
02:41 jcamins It was implemented within a few days of the original functionality.
02:41 wizzyrea all good. :)
02:44 hi bobb, what did you need?
02:46 BobB hi liz, I am about to send you a document, if you can read and comment will be good, thx  :)
02:46 wizzyrea okies :)
02:46 BobB I thought you weren't logged in but you are listed as an operator not a user.  My reliance on the alphabetical list tripped me up.  :)
02:47 jcamins That reminds me.
02:47 I have to identify with something to get back my ops bit.
02:47 mtompset joined #koha
02:47 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
02:48 wizzyrea /msg chanserv op #koha jcamins
02:48 ought to do it
02:48 or leave off the nick
02:49 jcamins Yay!
02:49 wizzyrea \o/
02:49 jcamins Ultimate power!
02:49 wizzyrea confetti!
02:49 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
02:49 eythian I for one welcome our new jcamins overlord.
02:50 wahanui: be jcamins
02:50 wahanui Have some fudge.
02:50 eythian wahanui: be zippy
02:50 wahanui Everywhere I look I see NEGATIVITY and ASPHALT ...
02:50 druthb \o/
02:50 wahanui: be druthb
02:50 wahanui Harrumph!
02:50 druthb lol
02:50 wizzyrea be wizzyrea
02:50 wahanui do you like my aspirational, irritatingly American, optimism?
02:51 trea >.>
02:51 wizzyrea ^.^
02:51 see also: self deprecating
02:51 :)
02:51 eythian better than self depreciating.
02:51 wizzyrea that's what women do, unfortunately
02:53 eythian they do their own accounts, and decrease their own value every year?
02:54 * mtompset grins at eythian.
02:54 wizzyrea I'm going to let you think about that
02:54 perhaps not *self* depreciating.
02:54 mtompset Oops... wrong context. I meant for welcoming jcamins as overlord.
02:54 wizzyrea lol :)
02:54 be eythian
02:54 wahanui Sod it all, let's head to the pub!
02:54 * wizzyrea nods
02:55 wizzyrea good plan.
02:55 eythian it does sound like a good plan.
02:55 this proposal thing will write itself, right?
02:55 trea definitely
02:56 what could go wrong
02:56 bag always does
02:59 wizzyrea if you're the boss the proposals always happen magically.
02:59 ^.^
03:00 mtompset What if you are already married? ;)
03:00 wizzyrea lool
03:01 < really laughed
03:01 eythian (she actually did laugh out loud)
03:01 * mtompset is glad to have created laughter in someone's life. :)
03:01 eythian she is not, however, ROFLMAO'ing
03:01 wahanui: roflmao
03:01 wahanui eythian: i'm not following you...
03:02 wizzyrea no ma is still attached.
03:02 eythian wahanui: roflmao is <reply>http://images.wikia.com/uncycl[…]22727!Roflmao.jpg
03:02 wahanui OK, eythian.
03:02 mtompset How is your ma? ;P
03:02 * mtompset chuckles at eythian's URL photo.
03:03 wizzyrea roflmao is also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWgs6YQR9A
03:03 wahanui okay, wizzyrea.
04:20 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), everyone.
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05:07 * dcook thoroughly enjoys working with git
05:07 dcook Yay for tracking multiple remote repos :D
05:07 cjh welcome, to the fuuuttuuuurrreee
05:15 dcook Glad to be here ;)
05:15 Apparently my new computer is being built at the moment, so hopefully I should have that sometime in the next few days...just in time for the weekend :D
05:28 bag heya dcook
05:28 dcook allo allo bag
05:29 how's your evening?
05:29 bag going alright
05:29 figured out a z3950 import issue that was bothering us all for months and months (it was a test system so not a crazy importance)
05:30 the servername in the koha-httpd.conf still had 8080 on it :P
05:30 hahahahahahahahaha
05:35 cjh lol
05:38 BobB http://www.smh.com.au/technolo[…]130501-2irul.html
05:47 cait joined #koha
05:52 eythian hi cait
05:52 cait hi eythian
05:53 bag heya cait
05:53 * dcook waves
05:54 cait lots of people here :)
05:54 eythian wahanui: cait
05:54 wahanui cait is qam, not your secretary
05:54 eythian wahanui: cait
05:54 wahanui somebody said cait was qam, not your secretary
05:54 eythian wahanui: cait
05:54 wahanui go back to bed, cait.
05:54 cait heh
05:54 it's later than usual today!
05:54 bag HA
05:54 cait we got a holiday today
05:55 ts
05:55 noone sgned off on bug 10145 *sad*
05:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10145 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , The acquisition details block is badly placed
05:55 bag nice what holiday?
05:55 eythian but Koninginnedag was yesterday, and you're in the wrong country anyway
05:56 cait http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I[…]al_Workers%27_Day
05:56 eythian oh, may day
05:58 cait yeah
05:58 may has lots of holidays - 2 more
05:59 bag oh it's not may yet here
05:59 eythian I think we've pretty much run out of holidays until october or so now.
06:01 cait yeah and I still got 4 hours for qa....
06:02 * dcook someday wants to celebrate his birthday (June 24th) in Quebec
06:02 dcook Saint Jean Baptiste day
06:02 Not a holiday in the rest of Canada
06:02 But it's party central in Quebec ;)
06:03 Or so I'm told...
06:03 bag heh
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06:03 bag my birthday usually everyone is partied out - Jan 9th
06:03 everyone is like oh damn another party!
06:03 heh
06:03 but paul_p shares the same day
06:05 dcook hehe
06:05 I wonder if anyone has a birthday during Kohacon..
06:05 bag let's nominate rangi
06:05 he's a good sport
06:15 * cait passes qa on 9957
06:17 cait i love those binary bug numbers
06:17 10111 - longer time now until the next :)
06:28 * magnuse waves
06:29 cait morning magnuse
06:29 magnuse guten morgen cait
06:29 and congratulations, comrades!
06:33 dcook Woo! First sign off for May!
06:34 * dcook waves to magnuse
06:35 magnuse dcook++
06:35 and hiya dcook
06:35 oh, and cait++ for 4 passed qa in may!
06:36 cait jcamins set a deadline at noon today...
06:36 :)
06:36 magnuse oh for patches that change strings?
06:36 wait, which noon?
06:36 cait my noon, your noon
06:36 i already recalculated, 6 am for him I think
06:36 magnuse ah
06:36 cait he sent an emal
06:36 email even
06:37 magnuse hm, not to me?
06:38 rangi http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/039238.html
06:38 to everybody
06:38 evening all
06:38 cait evening
06:39 magnuse hiya rangi
06:39 ah, i thought it was sent like yesterday or summat
06:40 heh piwik reports a visitor to libriotech.no with "netscape 4"
06:41 cait ew
06:42 rangi heh
06:44 dcook Whoa...
06:44 The DSpace JSPUI still has some references to netscape in its code
06:44 I figured it was impossible...
06:44 * dcook hopes it was a bot...
06:45 magnuse yeah, i suspect some kind of foul play :-)
07:10 wizzyrea there is someone named darth_tater in here
07:10 i approve
07:13 dcook cait++
07:13 QA machine!
07:13 Good night everyone. Time for thai!
07:13 wizzyrea glhf
07:19 * cait waves to wizzyrea
07:20 wizzyrea howdy
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09:03 magnuse hiya wizzyrea
09:44 AmitG joined #koha
09:44 AmitG hi all
09:45 brendan around
09:45 ?
09:49 magnuse @seen bag
09:49 huginn` magnuse: bag was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 43 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <bag> he's a good sport
09:49 * magnuse suspects brendan of sleeping
09:52 AmitG @seen AmitG
09:52 huginn` AmitG: AmitG was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 17 seconds ago: <AmitG> ?
09:52 AmitG @seen rangi
09:52 huginn` AmitG: rangi was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <rangi> heh
09:52 AmitG @seen cait
09:52 huginn` AmitG: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 32 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: * cait waves to wizzyrea
09:57 jcamins If anyone has any further string changes they want in 3.12, you have THREE MINUTES to get the signed off and QAed.
10:01 Any patches with string changes that have not passed QA will not be considered for 3.12.
10:01 * jcamins throws a party.
10:10 * magnuse joins in
10:11 jcamins AmitG: if you have a general question, you should just go ahead and ask. If anyone knows the answer, they will answer.
10:13 magnuse @arewethereyet
10:13 huginn` magnuse: YES!
10:13 magnuse um, are you sure huginn`?
10:13 jcamins Hehe.
10:14 magnuse i think gmcharlt can reset that?
10:16 jcamins: ~3 weeks until you are a free man again?
10:16 jcamins YES!
10:17 magnuse hehe
10:20 * magnuse hopes gmcharlt makes the most of the next 3 weeks...
10:20 jcamins @later tell gmcharlt could you please merge the 6554 reverts branch so that 10070 can be applied to master?
10:20 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
10:47 New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10022' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9fe93006adeb6b30d> / Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]332819c9614ac3b59> / Merge branch 'bug_10017' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]?p=koha.git;a=com
10:52 jenkins_koha Starting build #19 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
11:06 magnuse bonjour khall
11:06 khall good day magnuse!
11:07 magnuse wassup?
11:17 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10111' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3e699346a74f244ae> / Bug 10111 - Layout on basket summary page a bit inconsistent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3cf4e1a5623f18f89> / Merge branch 'bug_6709' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h
11:20 jcamins Hey...
11:20 What's the word for "more" in French?
11:22 * magnuse suspects all the frenchies are sipping pastis at the beach today
11:23 jcamins magnuse: and very sensible indeed to be doing so.
11:23 magnuse yup
11:23 @wunder marseille
11:23 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 19.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on May 01, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
11:23 magnuse ooh
11:25 we should shift the release cycle of koha so the hackfests in marseille can be in may ;-)
11:25 jcamins Hehe.
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11:26 magnuse according to google translate: more pastis -> plus de pastis
11:27 jcamins cait says that "More" is translated in the Masthead for her, so I suppose the French translators decided that "More" should be translated "More."
11:27 magnuse hehe
11:29 i see "More" when i choose norwegian in my master installation - but that could be an incomplete translation
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11:30 jcamins Hmm.
11:30 magnuse hm, looks like it *is* translated in the .po file, though...
11:31 jcamins Yeah, that's not so good.
11:31 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #19: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/19/
11:31 * Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ]
11:31 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Edmund Balnaves to history
11:31 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10153 - Patron header search form is too wide
11:31 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10152: Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
11:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , local cover images not working in IE8
11:31 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10145: The acquisition details block is badly placed.
11:31 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10083 - In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
11:31 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017: Fix CSS for right-to-left in CCSR theme
11:31 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017:  Follow up OPAC-CCSR-Right-to-left-css
11:31 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017: Follow up handling with the multi libraries pref active
11:31 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
11:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10153 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron header search form is too wide
11:31 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10152 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
11:31 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10145 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , The acquisition details block is badly placed
11:31 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10083 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
11:31 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10017 normal, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Opac CCSR template do not cope well with right-to-left languages
11:31 pastebot "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "gimme more!" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/490
11:31 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
11:32 magnuse success! \o/
11:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #1156 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
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11:35 jcamins So, this is not a good thing.
11:35 Bah.
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11:41 jcamins magnuse: ummm... could you please take a screenshot of what I should see when I use the 008 plugin for NORMARC?
11:43 This is what I see: http://screencast.com/t/cBLQ4sFdsa7
11:43 * magnuse looks
11:44 magnuse yeah, that looks like what i would expect
11:44 jcamins Oh, okay then.
11:44 7055 passes.
11:44 magnuse anything in particular you were wondering about?
11:44 bug 7055
11:44 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7055 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , NORMARC: Links and defaults for 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
11:44 magnuse w00t!
11:45 jcamins Yeah... the MARC21 008 builder is a lot nicer. :P
11:45 magnuse yeah, i know. modernizing the normarc ones is on my list of things to do
11:45 jcamins As long as it hasn't actually been done, it's fine the way it is.
11:45 magnuse this is what the marc21 builders looked like when i did the normarc ones... :-/
11:47 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_10053' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]92ec52b64bb9d181e> / Bug 10053: borrowers.branchcode cannot be null <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]31d1789486e0a0a44> / Merge branch 'bug_10097' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=209863e5e4c3
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12:02 cait hm
12:02 i will try with german
12:02 sec
12:06 welll bit more than a sec.. but I am on it
12:11 jcamins What is it with holds queue related patches?
12:11 Is there some rule that says "FOR GOODNESS SAKE DON'T PROVIDE A USABLE TEST PLAN"?
12:13 I don't think I have _ever_ seen a usable test plan on a patch relating to the holds queue.
12:13 Probably because there's also exactly no documentation whatsoever for anything relating to the holds queue so the test plan writer is forced to make it up as s/he goes along.
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12:17 oleonard Hi #koha
12:17 jcamins Hello.
12:17 The final string freeze is nigh!
12:21 oleonard *yawns* orry, I was up all night doing unauthorized Koha upgrades
12:21 jcamins lol
12:22 Hey...
12:22 didn't xkcd do a comic about that?
12:27 cait oleonard++
12:28 jcamins: tell me what you need help with, I will write you up one
12:28 and there was a usable one on the bug, sorry if I forgot to copy it
12:28 jcamins cait: I figured it out.
12:28 build_holds_queue.pl does not take any arguments.
12:29 cait jcamins: Mehr definitely translates for me
12:29 jcamins Yay! No bug!
12:29 cait i used the newest pos the newest whatsoevermaster..
12:29 hm
12:29 I should probably be using 3.12.
12:29 i can redo it
12:30 jcamins No, my problem was on master and 3.12 both.
12:30 cait oh good
12:30 i get it master and 3.12 are different becuse of the encoding patches?
12:30 jcamins Yup.
12:31 Not with that particular problem I'm encountering, though.
12:31 cait but gmcharlt wanted to do something abou tthat?
12:31 jcamins Yeah, he has a branch with reverts, but I'm not 100% sure how to merge it.
12:35 Where do you set the length of time reading history is kept?
12:38 oleonard I think it's kept forever, managed by the patron, or cleared manually
12:38 cait jcamins: there is also opacprivacy and a cronjob involved I think
12:41 jcamins That's what I was missing.
12:41 The cron job.
12:41 wahanui i guess the cron job is only needed for *new* records.
12:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1156: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1156/
12:42 * Edmund Balnaves: Bug 8264 - local cover images not working in IE8 [ prog ]
12:42 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Add Edmund Balnaves to history
12:42 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10153 - Patron header search form is too wide
12:42 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 10152: Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , local cover images not working in IE8
12:42 jenkins_koha * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10145: The acquisition details block is badly placed.
12:42 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10083 - In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
12:42 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017: Fix CSS for right-to-left in CCSR theme
12:42 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017:  Follow up OPAC-CCSR-Right-to-left-css
12:42 * Karam Qubsi: Bug 10017: Follow up handling with the multi libraries pref active
12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10153 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Patron header search form is too wide
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12:42 jenkins_koha * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10022 - Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
12:42 * Chris Cormack: Bug 10143 - Fixing license headers
12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10152 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Default sorting wrong in parcels.pl
12:42 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bug 6709 : Patch for testing translating .xml files
12:42 * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 6709 - marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated
12:42 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10111 - Layout on basket summary page a bit inconsistent
12:42 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10145 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , The acquisition details block is badly placed
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10083 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10017 normal, P5 - low, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Opac CCSR template do not cope well with right-to-left languages
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10022 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Multiple tags moderation doesn't work on translated page
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10143 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Fix FSF address in license headers
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
12:42 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10111 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Layout on basket summary page a bit inconsistent
12:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #20 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
12:49 jcamins Okay, the only patches left are packaging script-related.
12:49 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_6506' into 3.14-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bbd669ef0e6783656> / Bug 6506: Correct CSS class name. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35d65e1a5c78d3a6d> / Bug 6506: When AnonymousPatron not set, deletion of issue history silently failed. <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;
12:51 jcamins YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
12:52 confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins confetti
12:52 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
12:52 jcamins :D
12:52 marcelr jcamins++
12:52 jcamins As you may have gathered, Koha is in string freeze for 3.12.
12:54 cait :)
12:57 jcamins @later tell mtj When you are QAing next, do you think you could start with bug 10150?
12:57 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:58 marcelr and bug 10084 ?
12:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10084 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , YUI path wrong in CCSR theme with packages
12:58 jcamins @later tell mtj Oh, and while you're working on packages, could you look at 10084, too?
12:58 huginn` jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:58 jcamins marcelr: thanks.
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13:05 tcohen OFTC keeps pulling me out because "no ident" stuff
13:06 jcamins I need to roll another beta, I think.
13:06 Or should I call it a "Release Candidate"?
13:06 tcohen we'll all be glad
13:06 jcamins tcohen: your error handling patches will be going in.
13:07 tcohen oh, thats great jcamins
13:07 jcamins I need to leave in about forty-five minutes, so I don't have time to do all the testing this morning, but they're not being ignored because I'm bumping them. :)
13:07 tcohen how many rc do u plan to have?
13:07 jcamins Well, if I start calling them Release Candidates now... four?
13:08 tcohen maybe one more beta then?
13:08 jcamins Yeah, that's why I was thinking it was a beta.
13:08 But then I thought "hey, wait, now that we're in string freeze if no other patches were submitted, I'd release it as-is."
13:08 :)
13:08 tcohen those error handling patches are going in in this beta?
13:09 jcamins Yeah.
13:09 I won't be building the beta until tonight.
13:09 tcohen ok, i'll do extensive tests on that then
13:10 if you have a minute i can give you what i got for tab-completion so u enjoy testing :-P
13:11 and then spend 44 minutes on that releasing task
13:11 jcamins Hehe.
13:11 Right now I'm working on release notes, and I'll be doing the testing and releasing tonight. :)
13:12 cait :)
13:12 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tab-completion, so far" (179 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/491
13:13 druthb o/  :)
13:13 jcamins tcohen: so how does that work? I can just include that in .profile?
13:14 tcohen you need the bash-completion package
13:14 and put it in /etc/bash_completion.d
13:14 or, for testing purposes, bash koha
13:14 and the completion will work on that shell
13:15 note that koha-enable completion relies on a patch for koha-list that hasn't been pushed yet
13:15 (that adds the --disabled switch)
13:15 jcamins Nice!
13:15 tcohen if you grep complete koha
13:15 you'll see what completions are already done
13:16 i learned that i should love Perl a lot more now that i've been working a bit with bash
13:17 cait :)
13:17 jcamins lol
13:18 tcohen the code looks a lot ad-hoc because i couldnt manage to pass associative arrays as reference without loosing the keys!
13:18 (the folks at #bash aren't as responsive as we are at all)
13:20 jcamins Hm.
13:20 I think the release notes auto-generator did not work right.
13:20 tcohen ouch
13:21 jcamins Ooh, I bet I know what it was.
13:22 Yeah, we specified that only 4-digit bugs were allowed.
13:22 oleonard We figured they'd all be fixed before 10000.
13:22 cait heh :)
13:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #20: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/20/
13:23 * Chris Cormack: Bug 10143 - Fixing license headers
13:23 * Chris Cormack: Bug 6709 : Patch for testing translating .xml files
13:23 oleonard 9999, aaaaand... we're done.
13:23 jenkins_koha * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 6709 - marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated
13:23 * Owen Leonard: Bug 10111 - Layout on basket summary page a bit inconsistent
13:23 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143 Followup for some new developers on about page
13:23 * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 7143: Updating the About page with translation teams for Basque and Turkish
13:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10143 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Fix FSF address in license headers
13:23 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7143: Add missing contributor to about page
13:23 * Owen Leonard: Bug 9266 - Untranslated strings in tags moderation
13:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated.
13:23 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9957 - Missing cancel link on subfield editing page
13:23 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9719 - Changing the rows per page on a custom report fails if it has user supplied parameters
13:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10111 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Layout on basket summary page a bit inconsistent
13:23 jenkins_koha * David Cook: Bug 10097 - Hide framework selection when importing staged authority records
13:23 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10053: borrowers.branchcode cannot be null
13:23 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
13:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9266 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Untranslated strings in tags moderation
13:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing cancel link on subfield editing page
13:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9719 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Changing the rows per page on a custom report fails if it has user supplied parameters
13:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10097 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Hide framework selection when importing staged authority records
13:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10053 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , borrowers.branchcode cannot be null
13:23 jenkins_koha Starting build #1157 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
13:27 jcamins What beta are we up to?
13:29 21 features, 158 enhancements, 393 bugfixes.
13:29 So far.
13:29 druthb jcamins++
13:29 cait jcamins++
13:31 tcohen jcamins++
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13:57 bgkriegel jcamins++
14:10 oleonard The goal of consistent indentation in the templates is at odds with the potential desire of some to keep line lengths reasonable.
14:13 * oleonard votes for potentially long line lengths, personally
14:14 * cait votes for artistic indenting
14:14 cait :)
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14:22 oleonard cait: You want each template to indent in the profile of a famous sculpture?
14:22 cait oleonard: doesn't that sound nice? :)
14:23 tcohen should we care of translated templates too?
14:23 cait oh right, translations will mess it all up
14:27 tcohen we could do it better, if anyone had the tiem for it of course
14:27 maybe is not an issue at all
14:32 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1157: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1157/
14:32 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7143 Followup for some new developers on about page
14:32 * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 7143: Updating the About page with translation teams for Basque and Turkish
14:32 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7143: Add missing contributor to about page
14:32 * Owen Leonard: Bug 9266 - Untranslated strings in tags moderation
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
14:32 jenkins_koha * Owen Leonard: Bug 9957 - Missing cancel link on subfield editing page
14:32 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9719 - Changing the rows per page on a custom report fails if it has user supplied parameters
14:32 * David Cook: Bug 10097 - Hide framework selection when importing staged authority records
14:32 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 10053: borrowers.branchcode cannot be null
14:32 * Magnus Enger: Bug 7055 - NORMARC: Fix 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
14:32 * Magnus Enger: Bug 7054 - NORMARC: Fix default for 000 position 17
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9266 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Untranslated strings in tags moderation
14:32 jenkins_koha * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8300: Add mechanized unit test for batch import
14:32 * Magnus Enger: Bug 8300 - Add Test::WWW::Mechanize as an optional dependency
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9957 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Missing cancel link on subfield editing page
14:32 jenkins_koha * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7368: Small typo in history.txt
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9719 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Changing the rows per page on a custom report fails if it has user supplied parameters
14:32 jenkins_koha * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8419 - Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
14:32 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10033 - dangerous query in _koha_modify_item
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10097 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Hide framework selection when importing staged authority records
14:32 jenkins_koha * Christophe Croullebois: Bug 7228: can't add items in an order with Modify
14:32 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 6506: Followup add warning in the system information tab.
14:32 * Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 6506: When AnonymousPatron not set, deletion of issue history silently failed.
14:32 * Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 6506: Correct CSS class name.
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10053 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , borrowers.branchcode cannot be null
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7055 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC: Links and defaults for 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
14:32 jenkins_koha Starting build #21 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
14:32 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7054 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , NORMARC: wrong default for 000 position 17
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10033 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , dangerous query in _koha_modify_item
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7228 major, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , can't order more than 1 when importing all from staged file
14:32 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Pushed to Master , deleting patron history missing errors
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14:57 oleonard Something is wrong with this picture: http://screencast.com/t/qSnse1KA
14:57 cait lots of yellow?
14:57 1 out of 1 what?
14:58 oh
14:58 i am confused
14:58 which screen is that?
14:58 oleonard Placing multiple holds in the OPAC
14:58 cait ah
14:58 i see
14:58 wasn't there a bug for that smewhere?
14:58 oleonard It says "none of these items can be placed on hold," but the 2nd one looks available to me
14:58 cait that some block all?
15:00 oleonard Bug 4249 is for the staff client--different issue I think.
15:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4249 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , can't place hold if one item not avail for hold
15:00 cait hm
15:00 oleonard Is that a duplicate of Bug 7703?
15:00 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Failed QA , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold
15:01 cait holds... i always get a bit lost there
15:02 oleonard Too bad 7703 didn't get a follow-up before the string freeze.
15:03 cait yeah
15:03 maybe he missed it
15:06 rambutan @seen jcamins
15:07 @seen cait
15:07 huginn` rambutan: cait was last seen in #koha 4 minutes and 0 seconds ago: <cait> maybe he missed it
15:07 rambutan @seen jcamins
15:07 cait i am here
15:07 huginn` rambutan: jcamins was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <jcamins> So far.
15:08 rambutan yea, huginn was being slow
15:08 cait so i was just a test?
15:12 druthb wahanui: be cait
15:12 wahanui hmpf.
15:12 druthb heh
15:12 wahanui: be rambutan
15:12 wahanui druthb: i'm not following you...
15:12 druthb :P
15:12 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.12.x build #21: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.12.x/21/
15:12 * Magnus Enger: Bug 7055 - NORMARC: Fix 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
15:12 * Magnus Enger: Bug 7054 - NORMARC: Fix default for 000 position 17
15:12 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 8300: Add mechanized unit test for batch import
15:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7055 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC: Links and defaults for 008 position 15-17 and 35-37
15:12 jenkins_koha * Magnus Enger: Bug 8300 - Add Test::WWW::Mechanize as an optional dependency
15:12 * Marcel de Rooy: Bug 7368: Small typo in history.txt
15:12 * Kyle M Hall: Bug 8419 - Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
15:12 * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 10033 - dangerous query in _koha_modify_item
15:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7054 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , NORMARC: wrong default for 000 position 17
15:12 jenkins_koha * Christophe Croullebois: Bug 7228: can't add items in an order with Modify
15:12 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 6506: Followup add warning in the system information tab.
15:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha should have mechanized testing suite
15:12 jenkins_koha * Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 6506: When AnonymousPatron not set, deletion of issue history silently failed.
15:12 * Peter Crellan Kelly: Bug 6506: Correct CSS class name.
15:12 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7368 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , General staff client typo omnibus
15:12 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8419 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Suspended holds appear on the daily holds queue
15:12 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10033 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , dangerous query in _koha_modify_item
15:12 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7228 major, P5 - low, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , can't order more than 1 when importing all from staged file
15:12 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6506 critical, P5 - low, ---, peterAtKohaBugzilla, Pushed to Master , deleting patron history missing errors
15:12 druthb wahanui: be bag
15:12 wahanui druthb: what?
15:13 rambutan big bad bag?
15:14 druthb wahanui: be druthb
15:14 wahanui Harrumph!
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15:25 gmcharlt @quote random
15:25 huginn` gmcharlt: Quote #74: "<owen> chris: Not to mention the cute kid quote AI you've been developing. that takes a lot of cycles" (added by gmcharlt at 01:11 PM, May 18, 2010)
15:31 oleonard @quote random
15:31 huginn` oleonard: Quote #87: "<wizzyrea> my standard reply for that is you know that women are genetically predisposed to wake to a baby's cry... where men are more likely to wake up to the sound of a fly buzzing" (added by chris_n at 07:26 PM, July 29, 2010)
15:33 druthb @quote random
15:33 huginn` druthb: Quote #137: "sekjal: the data's in there... it's just MARC" (added by cait at 06:40 PM, May 26, 2011)
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15:58 maximep just took me a year to send patch for bug 7498. Better late than never, I guess
15:58 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7498 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Needs Signoff , Cloning a budget, enable change of description
15:58 cait only sad thing about that is
15:58 that now I will wistfully long for it 6 months
15:58 :)
15:58 or longer
15:58 depending on when we upgrade our customers heh
15:59 maximep oh. yeah, right
15:59 :/
15:59 cait i am still very happy you did it :)
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16:21 rambutan @seen sekjal
16:21 huginn` rambutan: sekjal was last seen in #koha 4 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 40 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <sekjal> drojf: agreed
16:22 oleonard @seen pianohacker
16:22 huginn` oleonard: pianohacker was last seen in #koha 1 year, 30 weeks, 2 days, 21 hours, 14 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <pianohacker> That's always nice, when other people have a higher opinion of our skills than we do
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16:41 rambutan wahanui: archives?
16:41 wahanui rambutan: i don't know
16:41 rambutan wahanui: archive?
16:41 wahanui well, archive is missing i work to restore the access
16:42 oleonard What kind of archives rambutan?
16:43 rambutan irc logs, but found it
16:44 google is getting fairly good at finding koha stuff, better than like a couple of years ago
16:49 jcamins logs?
16:49 wahanui it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/
16:52 rambutan @seen kados
16:52 huginn` rambutan: I have not seen kados.
16:55 rambutan It's interesting to look at old logs and see the personalities involved w/ Koha years ago
16:55 druthb @seen jdavidb
16:55 huginn` druthb: jdavidb was last seen in #koha 1 year, 24 weeks, 0 days, 21 hours, 1 minute, and 31 seconds ago: <jdavidb> I'm just here to confuse you.
16:57 rambutan owen, chris and kados go way back
16:57 who was toykeeper I wonder?
16:57 oleonard Hooray for those of us who didn't flame out and crap up the place
16:58 jcamins Hehe.
16:58 rambutan @seen rach
16:58 huginn` rambutan: rach was last seen in #koha 2 years, 25 weeks, 6 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes, and 1 second ago: <rach> Cool paul
16:58 bag oleonard++
16:58 oleonard rach is a Katipo person
16:59 rambutan yea, I think she was the one that did the Koha logo, right?
16:59 bag yup
16:59 rambutan too back huginn can't tell a "first seen" date
17:00 jcamins The logs can.
17:00 rambutan how? other than just manually searching?
17:00 jcamins I was first seen in '06, but then I left the country and didn't come back until '09.
17:00 Yeah.
17:01 cait i was later :)
17:02 bag I don't think I ever logged into IRC until '08
17:02 rambutan hummm, I was thinking I saw "brendan" earlier than that
17:03 bag started koha with 2.2
17:03 well using it (that is)
17:05 rambutan paul goes way back too
17:07 acty has picked up too, some days back in 2005 only have 15-20 lines in them for the whole day
17:08 oleonard Lots more regular lurkers these days, which I don't really understand.
17:08 rambutan thd used to be an active participant
17:08 oleonard Hey lurkers, why are you here?
17:08 * druthb lurks
17:09 * oleonard hopes we provide the lurkers with their daily requirement of Koha talk
17:09 * jcamins would be a lurker, except he talks too much.
17:09 druthb lulz
17:09 oleonard druthb: You don't count as a lurker :P
17:09 druthb :P
17:09 rambutan lots of extensive French (language) in the old days too
17:10 druthb @seen rhcl
17:10 huginn` druthb: rhcl was last seen in #koha 6 weeks, 0 days, 23 hours, 8 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: <rhcl> #info Greg Lawson Rolling Hills Consolidated Library, St. Joseph, MO
17:11 rambutan I've taken to only using that nick when I represent the library, like in meetings
17:11 I use "mustard" when I want to say something and I don't want anybody to know who is reallly saying it
17:12 oleonard rambutan: You cover is pretty well blown.
17:14 rambutan No, I still have one super-secret nick left.
17:15 maximep I say we should go back to usign french :p
17:16 rambutan works for me, I speak google
17:16 * druthb ne parle pas français.
17:16 maximep ok, allons-y !
17:16 * senator reste immergé
17:17 rambutan oooh, a new player at the table!
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17:18 senator nah, i was just saying "still lurking" :-)
17:26 maximep hmm I didn't understand the translation "immergé" for lurking :S
17:27 10 mins later
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17:32 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:32 Woo hoo! I found the bug in my integration of the shib patch.
17:32 I was almost getting motivated to re-write auth from scratch.
17:33 jcamins mtompset: just make sure you write unit tests.
17:33 mtompset I know. Especially with enhancements.
17:33 jcamins mtompset: any changes to Auth require unit tests.
17:34 #evergreen is voting on the RM using meetbot's vote functionality. So everyone is saying "Vote yes."
17:34 * jcamins hopes someone interpolates "Will somebody open up a window."
17:35 mtompset Just to clarify: Does that mean I have to get a CAS server, LDAP server and all the existing authentication methods working too? Or just tests for the enhancement?
17:36 jcamins mtompset: you have to write unit tests for any code that you are changing.
17:36 So if you don't touch CAS, you don't need to write a unit test.
17:36 (etc.)
17:37 But if you change an existing API, you need to write a unit test to show that it still works.
17:39 mtompset No API changes, just a couple template tweaks, add a file, tweak Auth, and then add some sysprefs.
17:39 I'll be very methodical in documenting the testing I do to prove it works.
17:40 jcamins It the changes in auth are slight, no additional unit tests will be needed for the existing routines.
17:41 mtompset insertion of logic, and modification of an ||
17:41 I don't think it's huge, but I'll document it to hell.
17:41 jcamins Probably no need for additional unit tests (but the new code needs unit tests, still, of course).
17:43 mtompset And when you say unit tests you mean some t/something.t test?
17:44 jcamins Right.
17:45 Or t/db_dependent/something.t if you can't make it work without a configuration.
17:46 mtompset since sysprefs are required, then the db_dependent is probably what I need, right?
17:47 jcamins Mmmm...
17:47 ideally not.
17:47 You can "mock" the database access.
17:47 Take a look at...
17:48 t/db_dependent/Search.t or t/Items.t (or t/ItemTypes.t, or something like that).
17:48 Oh! t/DateUtils.t.
17:48 That one is probably easier to understand.
17:49 mtompset Thanks for the feedback. Let's say I finish getting this patch ready before Koha PI is released, might it make it in?
17:50 (or would it go into the next one?)
17:50 jcamins If it's done before the feature freeze, it might get in, certainly.
17:50 gmcharlt can speak to when that is.
17:50 Probably six months from March 22.
17:51 -ish
17:51 mtompset So, I have ~4 months left (to be on the safe-side)?
17:51 cait less
17:51 jcamins Less.
17:51 Definitely less.
17:51 cait it will need a sign off and qa
17:51 gmcharlt mtompset: and fair warning, the testing bar for auth code is going to be high
17:51 cait so calculate a lot of time for that
17:51 ideally find someone committed to test your code once it's ready
17:51 gmcharlt as would be the case for anything that touches deep routines
17:51 jcamins You want to make sure that there's plenty of time for testing.
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17:53 mtompset gmcharlt: I totally understand, since it is such a core routine.
17:53 ^routine^module^
17:58 magnuse @arewethereyet
17:58 huginn` magnuse: YES!
17:59 magnuse hm
18:03 druthb wahanui: botsnack this_boring_trainer
18:03 wahanui thanks druthb :)
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18:05 mtompset BTW, greetings cait jcamins gmcharlt druthb magnuse. :)
18:07 druthb greetings, mtompset! :D
18:12 jcamins gmcharlt: I have a question about the 6554 revert branch: what needs to be done with it?
18:12 gmcharlt jcamins: I'm going to run a final check, then push it
18:12 jcamins Thanks.
18:13 Tonight I'll be doing some packaging tests and cutting another beta -- whichever beta it happens that we are on -- and I'd like to include 10070.
18:15 I guess probably we're on beta3 since I increment the 100 place of the patch version number for each beta.
18:16 Hmm... maybe.
18:17 oleonard I find that if you try to place multiple holds in the OPAC on a set of titles which includes one with no items you get a nasty error
18:17 jcamins oleonard: that's not good.
18:20 oleonard Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at C4/Items.pm line 1398.
18:21 * magnuse thinks it is beta3 too
18:21 jcamins oleonard: yeah, I see the problem.
18:23 The if is missing " && $record->field('773')".
18:23 (and parentheses)
18:24 And the elsif should have ... && $record->field('461')
18:25 cait what's 461?
18:25 jcamins UNIMARC.
18:25 wahanui unimarc is, like, http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation
18:26 cait analytics?
18:26 wahanui the 773$w field contains the value of the 001 field of the parent record. Also, MARC sucks.
18:26 jcamins Yeah.
18:27 Well- I presume.
18:33 oleonard Yeah, we never get off topic he--OOH KITTIES!
18:33 cait i thought cookies?
18:36 oleonard We don't discriminate against distractions here. All distractions are welcome.
18:36 * cait tries to remember how to build packages
18:37 jcamins oleonard: but we stick to relatively brief distractions.
18:37 Not 10k-word screeds.
18:37 oleonard Uh... yeah, I'll say.
18:39 jcamins And generally on IRC.
18:46 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'origin/new/bug6554_reverts' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dcab34b1fed40b301>
18:54 jenkins_koha Starting build #1158 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
18:54 cait gmcharlt++
18:58 jcamins cait++
18:58 druthb cait++
19:01 oleonard Bug 10166-- String freeze safe!
19:01 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10166 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Can't place holds on multiple titles if one or more are un-holdable
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19:07 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Like this jcamins?" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/492
19:08 oleonard No apparently not
19:11 bgk oleonard: is there a precedence order between && and ||?
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19:13 jcamins oleonard: I don't see any problem with that.
19:15 cait hm fingers crossed packages will build
19:15 oleonard The only change in the error message is to the line number
19:17 jcamins oleonard: oh, wait, I think I see.
19:17 Add "return unless $record" before the if.
19:18 cait oleonard++ jcamins++
19:20 pastebot "oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Like this jcamins?" (33 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/493
19:20 druthb cait:  http://katrin.you.are.mighty.aninote.com/
19:20 cait ?
19:21 jcamins Yes.
19:21 Does it fix the problem?
19:21 cait druthb?
19:21 wahanui druthb is our translation manager for 3.12
19:21 cait druthb?
19:21 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would.
19:21 druthb cait?
19:21 wahanui well, cait is qam, not your secretary
19:21 cait ;)
19:21 druthb clix the link?
19:22 cait what do you think?
19:24 :)
19:25 druthb :)
19:26 That made the rounds at our office this week.
19:26 Just substitute a name for "katrin" in the link, and it Just Works.
19:27 mtompset Nice link.
19:29 cait jcamins: should buliding database of manual pages take so long?
19:29 oleonard jcamins: Fixes the error and exposes another problem :|
19:31 jcamins cait: I don't know. It takes a long time.
19:31 cait ok
19:31 jcamins oleonard: eww. :(
19:31 cait i will wait
19:32 mtompset -- hate when that happens.
19:32 cait oh it's moving again
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19:43 cait morning kathryn
19:43 kathryn hiya cait :)
19:55 oleonard I filed Bug 10169 and attached a patch with the work so far (all courtesy jcamins). Where to go next is beyond me.
19:55 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10169 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Software error if one of multiple titles selected for hold in the OPAC has no items
19:57 jcamins It could be that the fix doesn't work.
19:58 cait :(
19:58 i only got a tar.gz
19:58 but not a deb
19:58 jcamins cait: did it fail?
19:59 cait not that I can see
19:59 jcamins In that case, do a search for .deb files.
19:59 They get put in weird places.
19:59 cait hm how?
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20:03 gcb Is there a way to delete all authorities with 0 biblios attached to it? Running 3.10.5 debian-common...
20:03 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1158: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1158/
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for tools/viewlog.pl"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 9951: Followup for Tools"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 10019: Fix for userid containing UTF8 chars"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 10074: QA Followup for InstallAuth.pm"
20:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9951 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Resolve encoding problems where script parameters are not decoded
20:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems for installer"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 10074 - Encoding problems at login time"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554 Fix error caused by modifying $_ in a map"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554 - make Koha internally utf-8 clean"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554 QA Followup"
20:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10019 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Encoding problem with utf8 chars in userid
20:03 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10074 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Encoding problems for login and installer
20:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554: Followup for serial search"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554: Followup for acquisitions"
20:03 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6554 critical, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Resolve encoding problems with corrected UTF8 handling in templates
20:03 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554: Followup for preferences.pl"
20:03 * Galen Charlton: Revert "Bug 6554 Followup for circulation patron search"
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20:09 oleonard Bye #koha
20:11 cait bye oleonard
20:13 gcb Is there a way to delete all authorities with "0 biblios" attached to it? Running 3.10.5 debian koha-common...
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21:15 jcamins cab_vinton++
21:24 phasefx if I want to add New York Times Reviews to added content from Syndetics, I would augment $review_sources and for my $available_type in C4/External/Syndetics.pm, and would that be enough?
21:25 rangi at a guess, i think so
21:26 * phasefx dares it; thanks :-)
21:28 wizzyrea phasefx: that might not be strictly legal.
21:28 jcamins wizzyrea: why not?
21:28 wizzyrea you could also use something like idreambooks
21:29 jcamins Oh.
21:29 wizzyrea: I think syndetics sells NYT reviews.
21:29 rangi *nod*
21:29 wizzyrea never mind then.
21:29 rangi morning
21:29 * wizzyrea doesn't keep on track of the entire range of what syndetics has
21:30 jcamins I think they did some press release about reviews recently.
21:32 phasefx it's going to take me a bit of time to ramp up a test environment, etc. being a Koha newbie, but if this is something that should go into master, I'll share.  I still owe you guys a test script for another bug :(
21:35 rangi phasefx: the easiest way is to install via the debian packages
21:36 then use the gitofy script
21:36 jcamins The best way to install is via the Debian packages.
21:36 And I've heard very cool things about gitify.
21:36 phasefx roger that, thanks
21:36 wizzyrea your favorite koha feature, go
21:36 jcamins Mine?
21:36 wahanui Mine is very good at reminding me of druthb's place on the food chain.
21:37 jcamins Ummm...
21:37 hmm.
21:37 wizzyrea everybody.
21:37 wahanui hmmm... everybody is so enthusiastic today :)
21:37 * druthb tilts her head quizzically.
21:37 jcamins That's a good question.
21:38 rangi https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
21:38 wizzyrea ^ is pretty slick
21:38 rangi persistent urls wizzyrea
21:39 jcamins Oh, are we including the absence of anti-features in our definition of feature?
21:39 wizzyrea yep
21:40 I like that one rangi
21:40 jcamins The way there's just *Koha*. When someone says "but I don't need Acquisitions," I can say "that's great, but you know what? If you change your mind, you have it in your back pocket!"
21:41 * jcamins got to give that speech a few days ago.
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22:06 wizzyrea did you guys see the thing where facebook has backed away from html5, opting instead to focus on their mobile apps?
22:08 http://au.businessinsider.com/[…]from-html5-2012-4
22:08 http://mashable.com/2012/09/11[…]st-ipo-interview/
22:10 rangi unsuprising
22:10 don answered that :)
22:11 FB is more concerned with controlling you. They probably find an open platform doesn't allow that so much. Apple has a similar approach. It has broken Safari on its mobile devices because it prefers that you pay them to use apps to use the internet.
22:11 cjh :(
22:12 wizzyrea of course they want to control you. The speed thing is a problem though.
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22:13 cjh with FB you are the product.
22:13 wizzyrea with anything on the internet you use for free, you are the product.
22:13 which means... everything.
22:14 jcamins Also most things you pay for.
22:14 wizzyrea certainly anything you don't pay a lot for.
22:14 rangi Apps built in HTML5 can be much slower than apps built in native iOS and Android code.
22:14 the keyword is CAN
22:16 ibeardslee you are the product with koha? ;)
22:16 rangi and to say that instagram succeeded because FB photo app was slow is bollocks too
22:16 wizzyrea if you're using amazon images you are
22:16 no filters on facebook :P
22:16 lulz.
22:18 ibeardslee instagram succeeded because it was for the hipster iphone users not the common facebook users
22:18 rangi yeah
22:18 jcamins ibeardslee: no, the patrons are.
22:19 rangi facebook is on the downslide now anyway
22:19 cjh jcamins: although as developers, we are also part of the product :)
22:19 ibeardslee so much of success is the right place at the right time with the right product targeting (even if accidently) the right people
22:19 jcamins cjh: good point.
22:20 BobB good morning all
22:20 cjh morning BobB
22:31 eythian hi
22:31 wahanui hi, eythian
22:31 trea o/
22:33 eythian wahanui: gitify is at https://github.com/mkfifo/koha-gitify
22:33 wahanui OK, eythian.
22:50 mtompset Have great day (24 hour period), everyone.
22:50 wizzyrea hey that's a nice tweet
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23:00 eythian wahanui: are you there?
23:00 wahanui no idea, eythian
23:00 eythian hmm weird. Our internet is just partially down
23:02 papa joined #koha
23:03 jcamins Which part?
23:03 wahanui Which part is probably not right for you
23:03 eythian I don't know
23:03 half my IRC has gone
23:03 but this is still working
23:04 cjh I still have ssh access out to my server, but no dns or pings seem to be going anywhere
23:04 trea yep
23:04 eythian some routes are failing apparently
23:05 cjh and were back
23:05 s/were/we are/
23:06 jcamins eythian: so... it was the productive parts that were down.
23:07 eythian s/we are/we're/
23:07 jcamins: pretty much, yes :)
23:07 oh, and IPv6 remained up, that'll be why I remained connected to here
23:14 wizzyrea-brokeded joined #koha
23:15 eythian wahanui: ping
23:15 wahanui eythian: what?
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23:19 eythian wahanui: ping is <reply>Using deft allegory, the authors have provided an insightful and intuitive explanation of one of Unix's most venerable networking utilities. http://www.amazon.com/Story-ab[…]oks/dp/0448421658
23:19 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:29 trea any thoughts as to why i'd be seeing "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 181, <DATA> line 466." when i try to login to the opac with an ldap user?
23:30 rangi my $attr=$extended_patron_attributes->[$i]; unless (C4::Members::Attributes::Ch​eckUniqueness($attr->{code}, $attr->{value}, $borrowernumber))
23:30 $attr will be undefined
23:30 is my guess
23:31 trea mmm
23:31 jcamins Actually, based on that snippet, I think the problem is that you have extended patron attributes turned off.
23:33 eythian yeah, $attr would be an error about hash references.
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23:34 dcook morning #koha
23:35 cjh trea: which branch is this on?
23:35 trea sorry, which codebase? it's a 3.8.5 site
23:36 cjh ok, then it is the unless line. in current master it was the following line.
23:36 so rangi's guess is solid :)
23:36 rangi cjh: line numbers aren't absolute
23:36 the unless block is one line
23:37 so the unshift line, altho being 181
23:37 trea doesn't explain why it was able to auth at one point, then magically stopped.
23:37 rangi did someone turn off extended attributes
23:37 or delete them
23:37 trea perhaps. i'll have to find out
23:38 as much as i'd like to get in an see, they've restricted access to the intranet
23:38 rangi ah, we'd bill them for that :)
23:38 trea so it will have to wait till i have a response via email
23:38 eythian wahanui: magic
23:38 wahanui eythian: huh?
23:38 eythian wahanui: magic is <reply>http://catb.org/jargon/html/magic-story.html
23:38 wahanui OK, eythian.
23:41 cjh I want a magic kill switch.
23:45 trea reminds me of the time we crashed a dodgy computer by plugging in a pair of headphones
23:45 it causes just enough of a dip in the power supply that the box crashed
23:59 okay, so after some port forwarding magicks I'm able to get into their intranet, and the extendedpatronattributes syspref is set to "enabled"

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