IRC log for #koha, 2013-04-19

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00:02 sammy2 Hello wizzyrea
00:03 I am currently trying to do a re-installation, will inform you when I am through so you can give me further help
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00:04 eythian sammy2: from Zuid-Afrika, or Nigeria?
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00:15 sammy2 from Nigeria
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03:23 dcook Hmm...the MARC import should include Record matching rules for other fields than just the ISBN
03:23 wizzyrea you can add them, i thought
03:23 dcook Yeah?
03:24 Ahh
03:24 Liz, you're a star
03:24 wizzyrea ^.^
03:25 jcamins And, yeah, it really should.
03:27 dcook Hmm, would that be a patch on kohastructure.sql?
03:29 Interesting...
03:29 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
03:29 dcook I'm not going to stop saying it, wahanui :P
03:30 jcamins dcook: nah, just sample data.
03:32 dcook Mmm, there it is
03:33 I love Koha documentation sometimes
03:33 "'Required match checks' - ??"
03:36 Hmm, according to the help, the existing record matching rules aren't supposed to work
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03:41 huginn GERMS!!!!
03:41 wahanui Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world.
03:43 eythian wahanui: cait
03:43 wahanui go back to bed, cait.
03:45 wizzyrea eythian: it woudld be funnier if you said that and then made wahanui kick her ;P
03:45 but only between certain hours
03:46 eythian haha
03:46 alas, I can't op wahanui.
03:46 trea heh
03:46 wizzyrea oh maybe I can
03:47 cjh heh
03:47 wizzyrea mua ha ha ha ha
03:47 dcook And that was the beginning of the the end for the humans
03:47 trea forgive us
03:47 wizzyrea wizzyrea?
03:47 wahanui you are a Cylon, and they all have plans.
03:47 dcook The bots became ops and quickly cast down their human overlords
03:47 trea for they know not what they do
04:12 bag evening
04:14 cjh hi bag :)
04:14 bag heya cjh
04:16 * dcook tips his hypothetical hat to bag
04:16 bag heya dcook
04:18 wizzyrea \o/
04:18 dcook :)
04:18 Off to lunch with me
04:18 bbiab!
04:36 eythian wahanui: is it beer o'clock?
04:37 wizzyrea half past!
04:37 eythian I think wahanui is already there.
04:37 yeah, wanted to finish a document.
04:37 * wizzyrea too
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05:15 cait someone still there? :)
05:17 * dcook puts up his hand
05:17 dcook I was thinking I was the only one too
05:17 Just about to Google a previous conversation of ours :p
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05:31 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages
05:31 Now I know why everyone says to use Debian packages...
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05:33 Guest2777 hello there
05:34 Please I need help with KOHA installation, is there anyone who can help?
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05:45 mveron Good morning #koha
05:45 ...and good morning Cait :-)
05:45 cait hi mveron :)
05:45 nice to see you!
05:46 mveron Long time.. to much work...
05:46 cait hope at least wlel paid? :)
05:47 mveron I'ts OK :-)
05:47 Pootle says: header field 'Project ID Version' still has the initial default value
05:48 while saving de-DE-prfe.po (for translation to de-CH
05:48 cait for the pref file?
05:48 yeah
05:48 we should fix htat
05:48 but if you fix it, next update will overwrite
05:48 * mtj waves to mveron, cait, sammy, dcook
05:48 cait I tried that
05:48 mveron hi mtj
05:49 cait: But does it any harm if I upload it to the de-CH?
05:49 * dcook waves back to mtj
05:50 mtj dcook, i think a big win for the deb packages are around n00bs and zebra problems
05:50 dcook mtj: Yeah, I was thinking that as I was going through the wiki
05:51 Also just plain convenient for any administrator
05:51 mtj yep
05:51 dcook Especially for multi-instance admins
05:51 Of course, I'd have to experiment/learn to build packages before I could make a case for switching over to Debian
05:52 mtj you have a snowballs chance in hell of getting zebra running/indexing without the pkgs
05:52 dcook Oh yeah?
05:53 mtj well, not you personally, david… :)
05:53 dcook lol
05:53 Indexing isn't too bad
05:53 I've never set Zebra up from scratch though
05:53 mtj s/you/a person new to cron or koha/
05:54 dcook I'm only somewhat familiar with cron :p
05:54 But yeah, from the user standpoint...I don't know why a person would use anything but Debian packages
05:55 I might have to set up my home library and do just that
05:56 I've thought about doing development from home, but 7.5-9 hours a day at work is more than enough of that
05:56 No offense to those who do more...you're stars!
05:56 mtj and… others have a snowballs chance in hell of helping anyone with zebra problems, thats not running koha pkgs
05:57 dcook Maybe :p
05:57 Really does seem like permissions are often an issue there
05:57 And the FAQ has a good entry about that
05:57 Although I almost never look at the FAQ...
05:58 cait mveron: cross fingers? giving a presentation this morning :)
05:59 mveron cait: Good luck!
06:00 cait mveron:  :)
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06:03 mtj cait, is it just me…. or have you been doing lots of presentations lately?
06:03 dcook I was just about to say that
06:04 cait mtj: guess it's not only you
06:04 had one in march too and now in april.... and will have one in may
06:04 so all cross fingers for me please ;)
06:04 and now it's breakfast time
06:04 koha_community++
06:05 mveron cait ++
06:05 * dcook crosses fingers
06:08 dcook Oohhh
06:09 Making "CanBookBeRenewed" check to see if the borrower is restricted..
06:09 Thankfully, the "check out" tab in the patron record just removes the option without even needing to display another warning message
06:09 One less template change
06:09 * dcook celebrates
06:11 * magnuse waves
06:11 dcook hey ya magnuse :)
06:12 magnuse hiya dcook
06:15 wassup?
06:19 dcook Bug blastin'
06:19 Well, at least I think it's a bug
06:20 Earlier it was...authorities and Marc Org Codes
06:20 And now it's only 40 minutes until 5 :)
06:22 How about you?
06:22 Guest2777 Hello, I started the KOHA installation following the process as stated in http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
06:24 everything was going well and now this are the last two lines of the command - sudo apt-get install koha-common
06:24 Setting up libstring-random-perl (1:0.22-3) ...  Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...  root@sam2:~#
06:24 is this what I should get or Ishould still expect other messages after Setting up koha-common (3.10.04-1) ...?
06:25 magnuse dcook: just getting started... probably going to work on a migration
06:25 Guest2777 Please someone help me out
06:25 magnuse Guest2777: that sounds about right
06:25 there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:26 Guest2777 ok, thanks, so what next should I do now
06:26 soory I did not receive anything like that
06:28 Please what should I do now, there was nothing like "congratulations, you just installed koha-common"
06:29 magnuse yeah, that's what i said: there is no "congratulations, you just installed koha-common" ;-)
06:29 if you get no explicit error messages it probably worked
06:30 cjh Guest2777: koha-common is now installed, you should be able to create an instance.
06:30 magnuse so have another look at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian and do the rest of it
06:30 install mysql and set up a config file, i think are the next steps
06:30 Guest2777 ok, I will try that now
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06:37 * dcook waves to reiveune
06:37 dcook hope the migration goes well, magnuse :)
06:37 reiveune hello
06:38 magnuse thanks dcook - it's still in the very early stages - go live is in september
06:38 dcook Always nice to have some time
06:39 Guest2777 hello, thanks so far, I got to the mysql server install, is this response correct?
06:39 root@sam2:~# sudo apt-get install mysql-server  Reading package lists... Done  Building dependency tree         Reading state information... Done  mysql-server is already the newest version.  The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:    dbconfig-common  Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 43 not upgraded.
06:41 Trying to create instance, I gett error:
06:41 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
06:43 any help please?
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06:44 magnuse hm, i've never seen that error
06:45 sounds like you don't get access to create the database for the new instance
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06:47 Guest2777 so what do you suggest I do,
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06:49 magnuse Guest2777: did you set a password for the root user when you installed mysql?
06:50 Guest2777 It only tells me it was automatically installed
06:50 I pasted the response when creating the mysql server some few lines above
06:51 magnuse ah yes, it said it was already installed
06:51 Guest2777 exactly
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06:53 drojf good morning #koha
06:53 magnuse Guest2777: i'm out of ideas i'm afraid
06:54 Guest2777 ok, thanks, hope someone else will be able to assist further
06:55 dcook morning drojf
06:55 drojf hi dcook
06:56 debian wheezy is supposed to be released 4th/5th of may. does that have any consequences for koha?
06:56 Guest2777 pls is there anyone who can assist me further?
06:57 dcook Don't know, Guest2777
06:57 Maybe uninstall mysql and then reinstall?
06:58 Or...actually..
06:58 Guest2777 ok, can you guide me on that
06:58 mtj Guest2777, google the error….
06:58 http://mirzmaster.wordpress.co[…]s-maintlocalhost/
06:59 Guest2777 doing that... and also checking the link you just gave
06:59 mtj http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-using-password-y
07:00 http://brianoneill.blogspot.co[…]r-debian-sys.html
07:00 etc...
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07:11 dcook http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]elete_your_Branch
07:11 :D
07:11 Love deleting en masse
07:16 Guest2777 hello, thanks I was able to correct that and when I tried to create the instance, it give me this message
07:16 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db admlibrary  User admlibrary-koha already exists.
07:17 I then try to remove and re-create it, then the error comes back again:
07:17 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-remove admlibrary  Removing Koha instance admlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
07:17 do you suggest I re-start mysql?
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07:30 christophe_c hello #koha
07:42 Guest2777 please anyone who can help?
07:49 mtj Guest2777, you still have the same error - you havent fixed it
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07:49 Guest2777 yes
07:50 I have granted all privileges  but yet the error still comes up
07:50 mtj restart mysql
07:50 you have nothing to lose...
07:51 Guest2777 I have done that just now and yet no change
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07:52 mtj so, try to make a new koha, then...
07:52 $ sudo koha-create --create-db test1
07:52 $ sudo koha-create --create-db test2
07:53 $ sudo koha-create --create-db test3
07:53 Guest2777 ok, let me try again
07:53 mtj if you get ': Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost'' error...
07:53 … you havent fixed your previous problem
07:54 Guest2777 yes, same error
07:55 Please I really appreciate your help, let me do this again --- restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
07:55 do I do that?
07:56 mtj yep, same error....
07:56 so, you need to fix that first
07:57 Guest2777 do I  --restart mysql, then grant all privileges and then test again
08:00 mtj have you looked in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf  , to  find the password you need?
08:01 Guest2777 yes
08:03 mtj ok
08:03 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adminlib  User adminlib-koha already exists.
08:03 but when I tried it earlier it gave permission error
08:04 mtj http://mirzmaster.wordpress.co[…]s-maintlocalhost/
08:04 Guest2777 do you think this was crested successfully, because I was expecting additional messages if it was created correctly
08:05 That was the exact step I followed
08:05 the info on that page is very clear to follow and I did that successfully
08:07 dcook All right. I'm clearing out for the weekend. See most of you next week ;)
08:09 mtj did you restart mysql , after?
08:10 did you use the correct password, from the file?
08:10 did you get an error message after running the GRANT command?
08:10 Guest2777 I restarted mysql, granted all privileges, using the correct password in the file
08:10 no error, infact I can paste it for you here
08:11 root@sam2:~# mysql -uroot -p  Enter password:   Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.  Your MySQL connection id is 35  Server version: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1 (Debian)    Copyright (c) 2000, 2012, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved.    Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its  affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective  owners.    Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to
08:11 mtj restaet *after* the GRANT command
08:11 Guest2777 ok, let me do it that way now, thanks for your help
08:12 mtj $ mysql -u root -p <password>
08:12 Guest2777 sorry, is flush privileges necessary
08:12 mtj mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'n4aSHUP04s1J32X5';
08:12 sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
08:12 Guest2777 exactly, thanks
08:12 will do that now
08:14 mtj fyi, if you restart mysql after -  'flush privileges' is not needed...
08:15 Guest2777 done
08:16 do I try to create instance now
08:17 mtj yes
08:17 $ sudo koha-create --create-db test4
08:18 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db adlibrary  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:18 and I did everything the way it should...
08:19 mysql> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON *.* TO 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'np4S0ApRHEqdLcfa';  Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)    mysql> exit  Bye  root@sam2:~# sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart  Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.  Starting MySQL database server: mysqld.  Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables..
08:19 mtj $ ps -ef | grep mysql
08:19 is mysql actually running?
08:19 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# ps -ef | grep mysql  root      4506     1  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/mysqld_safe  mysql     4617  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock --port=3306  root      4618  4506  0 12:12 pts/1    00:00:00 logger -t mysqld -p daemon.error  root      4830  3169  0 12:16 pts/1    00:00:00 gr
08:20 rangi hmm
08:21 you really shouldn't paste your password in here, it is publicly logged
08:21 * rangi will delete that from the logs
08:21 Guest2777 sorry about that
08:21 ok thanks
08:21 mtj thats ok :)
08:22 Guest2777 Well, let me contact my host on this permission thing, I will come back if they are able to fix it for me
08:23 mtj Guest2777, one moment...
08:23 Guest2777 I hope you guys will still be here to help
08:23 ok,
08:24 mtj, i am waiting for you
08:24 mtj $ mysql -u debian-sys-maint -pYOURPASSWORD
08:24 does that work ^^
08:26 Guest2777 yes
08:26 it works
08:26 mtj wow, ok....
08:27 $ sudo koha-create --create-db test5
08:27 does that work? ^^
08:27 Guest2777 I have to exit mysql first?
08:27 mtj yes
08:28 Guest2777 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db test5  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
08:29 if it could connect to mysql, while giving permission error when using koha-create....
08:30 sorry, *why, not while
08:30 mtj hmm, sorry - i am out of ideas here… :/
08:30 a very strange problem
08:30 Guest2777 mtj, you have really tried
08:30 I appreciate allyour help
08:31 let me contact my hos support, I will come back for the installation
08:31 mtj have you tried un-installing mysql-server package?
08:31 Guest2777 maybe, I have not done that
08:31 mtj $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:31 $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:31 Guest2777 ok will try that now, thanks
08:32 mtj but, please backup your databases 1st!
08:32 if you have some important data on mysql, etc...
08:33 Guest2777 ok, that's what I am about to ask, because I also have dspace installed on the server
08:33 mtj ah, ok...
08:34 Guest2777 so can you help with the procedure to do the backup? sorry, I am new to all these
08:34 mtj dspace uses postgres, not mysql  - i think
08:34 Guest2777 ok, so no issues?
08:36 mtj hmm, i no nothing about dspace, sorry :/
08:36 Guest2777 no problem , i believe you are correct
08:38 mtj hmm, i have to go now sammy
08:38 Guest2777 Thanks a lot mtj, will try what you said
08:39 mtj ok, see you next time :p
08:39 Guest2777 thanks, have a great weekend
08:40 mtj try uninstall koha-common, then uninstall mysql-server...
08:40 then, install koha-common, install mysql-server
08:40 thats what i would do...
08:41 Guest2777 Thanks, will do just that
08:42 mtj $ sudo apt-get purge koha-common
08:42 $ sudo apt-get purge mysql-server
08:42 $ sudo apt-get install mysql-server
08:42 $ sudo apt-get install koha-common
08:42 .
08:42 Guest2777 thanks a lot for your great help
08:43 mtj ...that should fix everything :)
08:43 Guest2777 I appreciate all your help,
08:43 mtj no probs :)
08:43 cya
08:43 Guest2777 have a great day
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09:35 vfernandes hi :)
09:36 it's possible to have in patron cards more than 3 fields?
09:52 no one?
09:52 wahanui i think no one is saying a word, soooooo
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09:58 Guest2803 Hello mtj, looks like you are still aorund
09:58 *around
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10:42 vfernandes patron cards supports chinese characters?
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11:39 MikeC Can someone please tell me how to change the administrative password? I installed Koha on an Azure VM as a "proof of concept." I promptly forgot about it, until a few days ago. Naturally, the company wants to use it in production, but I can't find the password. I have SSH and root access on the VM.
11:47 jwagner MikeC, if it's the Koha admin login, you should find it in the koha-conf.xml file. Depending on how you did your install, it may be under /koha-dev/etc directory
11:47 MikeC Let me check. Thanks
11:47 This file? /etc/koha/sites/library/koha-conf.xml
11:48 jwagner not sure, it depends on how you did your install, and I'm not familiar with the newer methods
11:48 MikeC Found it. Thanks! I don't remember typing that password! :)
11:48 jwagner but you can look there and try
11:49 look for lines starting <user> and <pass>
11:49 You can log into Koha with that, but only use it long enough to create a proper Koha staff user ID and password. Then work with that login. Don't use the admin login inside Koha for everyday work
11:50 MikeC good advice. Thanks.
11:50 At least I'm in now
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12:06 magnuse bonjour khall
12:07 khall good day magnuse!
12:08 magnuse khall: got your 9 screens fired up and ready to go? :-)
12:09 khall yep! I'm thinking about upgrading to 12 ; )
12:10 magnuse hehe
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12:29 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:29 tcohen morning #koha
12:35 @seen marcelr
12:35 huginn tcohen: marcelr was last seen in #koha 23 hours, 19 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <marcelr> it is good that we do not have a dashboard on obsoleted patches..;)
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12:40 marcelr hi koha
12:40 tcohen: i see your adjustment
12:40 thanks
12:40 will take a look
12:40 tcohen np, I think we should remove outputing from that lib anyway
12:41 marcelr yes
12:41 tcohen but that would be another discussion
12:41 we have a deadline for 6554
12:41 heh
12:41 marcelr well..
12:43 tcohen ok, back to work, let me know anthing else I help with
12:43 marcelr thx
12:45 vfernandes patron cards supports chinese characters?
12:47 * tcohen hopes he can commit to the tab-completion work today
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12:55 HB Hey Koha
12:56 question ... is there a way to generate in the opac a list of the latest new works
12:57 like a list
12:58 tcohen 'latest' meaning?
12:58 in order of cataloguing?
12:58 HB well the ones that are added recently
12:58 the last 10 or 5
12:59 i did make a list manualy in the html but maybe it can be done automatic ...https://koha.inbo.be/
13:00 jcamins HB: you cn do a search, or you can use a public report and javascript.
13:00 *can
13:01 HB ok i try to find out what that is :)
13:01 jcamins http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_in_last_30_days
13:01 That's a report that would work.
13:01 Then the javascript would be to fetch the JSON for that and display it attractively.
13:04 HB ok you got me some extra work :) thx
13:04 jcamins I don't have an example, but I think rangi might have done it.
13:06 Unfortunately, it's much too late for him, and the weekend.
13:07 HB ok np i have time ;)
13:08 vfernandes jcamins do you know if there is any way to patron cards support chinese characters?
13:09 jcamins No idea, sorry.
13:09 Probably not.
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13:22 tcohen jcamins, is there a list of blocker bugs for 3.12?
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13:23 gaetan_B hello
13:23 oleonard Hi gaetan_B
13:23 tcohen: Search Bugzilla?
13:24 Here's rangi's "FIXME NOW" saved search, for instance: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]d=1&list_id=59894
13:25 ...although some of those are probably incorrectly marked as critical.
13:25 tcohen thanks oleonard
13:26 oleonard ...and others have been "critical" for looong time... Bug 4045
13:26 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
13:27 * oleonard wonders that happened to that "holds rewrite"
13:28 magnuse HB: rangi has a script here: https://github.com/ranginui/Ko[…]ly-acquired-books
13:28 but i think fetching json from a public report is the modern way to do it...
13:28 oleonard ...if JS-dependent, unfortunately.
13:30 HB ok
13:30 magnuse oleonard: yeah
13:31 it would be cool to have a built-in, configurable block/widget/thingy for "new stuff"...
13:32 tcohen we could have several widgets available
13:32 oleonard Link block1 to report1, block2 to report2, etc.
13:32 HB thx Magnuse ... have found some extra info on the web also i'm reading
13:32 oleonard Hey, we just re-implemented Drupal View blocks :)
13:33 magnuse yay! ;-)
13:38 tcohen oleonard, is it ok that the "refine your search" appears at the bottom of the opac on search result page?
13:40 also, will this beauty make it into 3.12? http://content.screencast.com/[…]20user%20page.png
13:40 oleonard That redesign is for (I hope) 3.14 tcohen
13:41 tcohen ok oleonard
13:41 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
13:42 oleonard tcohen: Under what circumstances do you see "refine your search" at the bottom of the search result page?
13:42 tcohen im using the current master packages on a demo site
13:43 did a simple search
13:43 oleonard prog or ccsr theme?
13:43 tcohen ccsr
13:43 oleonard It doesn't look that way to me
13:44 tcohen ok, i'll dig a bit on it
13:51 vfernandes there is any TTF to add to PDFs to support chinese?
13:56 oleonard Man, opac-detail is a beast of a template
14:05 khall It took me an hour to switch from ie9 to ie8 in my win7 vm, but at least I managed to SO 8264!
14:06 oleonard Now clone that VM and update one of them back to ie9
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14:09 khall oleanard, it's the first time i've used ie for anything in years ; )
14:10 vfernandes guys anyone knows any ttf font file that aggregates all characters?
14:10 khall I have 32 bit and a 64 bit vm's for compiling, now the 32 has ie8 and the 64 has ie9. good enough for me
14:10 oleonard You're lucky you don't use any services that force you to.
14:10 Thankfully Overdrive updated their reporting interface and no longer require it
14:26 tcohen oleonard: http://opac2.ceil.openils.com.[…]pac-search.pl?q=a
14:26 oleonard tcohen: CSS customizations?
14:27 tcohen don't know?
14:27 i have color.css and opac.css in my settings, but those are the default ones i guess
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14:28 tcohen i just found another site that looks like mine
14:29 oleonard http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]-search.pl?q=blue
14:30 tcohen oh, thats pretty
14:30 oleonard Of course I don't know if they have customizations, but theirs matches what I see on my dev system
14:31 tcohen i've installed from packages and loaded/upgraded a 3.8 dump
14:32 oleonard I see what it is
14:32 You're missing the YUI grid CSS files, or they're in the wrong place.
14:33 Bug 9052?
14:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
14:34 tcohen ok, then is not me but anyone using packages
14:46 jcamins tcohen: rangi has a list FIXME NOW which is a good start.
14:47 oleonard: I was just struck by something about the login page: the error messages are styled differently than on other pages.
14:47 Red instead of yellow, and a much heavier font.
14:48 oleonard True
14:48 jcamins I think they're just fine as they are, but thought I would comment on that to you, in case you wanted them to be different.
14:49 oleonard I don't have a problem with it
14:49 jcamins Yay! No problems here!
14:49 * jcamins contemplates the label creator.
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14:52 Nicole C. Engard: make HomeorHoldingBranch clearer
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14:52 Nicole C. Engard: make HomeorHoldingBranch clearer
14:54 oleonard The LTFL markup in opac-detail is not valid. I wonder if it breaks things for libraries who use it.
14:55 nengard I just found a sys pref that I never added to the manual ... anyone know when HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn was put in to Koha? I see references to it in 3.4 release notes
14:56 jcamins nengard: that sounds about right.
14:56 nengard well i was bound to miss a pref at some point :)
14:57 jcamins Oh, wait, no.
14:57 3.2.0
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14:59 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
15:00 oleonard Hi mtompset
15:01 tcohen hi mtompset
15:01 mtompset MY brain isn't working right now. "Logging on to the catalog has not been enabled by the library." -- What system preference is that?
15:01 Greetings, oleonard and tcohen.
15:01 nengard i think it's opaclogin
15:01 jcamins I didn't even know that we had a syspref to disable logging in.
15:01 tcohen oleonard, do u know why sed-ing on the debian/rules instead of pointing stuff to the right place?
15:02 oleonard Sorry tcohen no idea
15:02 tcohen (context 9052, reset-fonts-grids.xss
15:02 cdd
15:02 )
15:02 magnuse tcohen: eythian might know
15:02 or liw :-)
15:02 * magnuse wanders off
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15:03 nengard What happens to borrower attributes when a patron is deleted?   ... are they lost forever?
15:03 mtompset Hmm... why is the search area blank and a log in required now?!
15:03 (QA system running squeeze-dev)
15:04 Something funky with the syspref settings, I think.
15:06 oleonard nengard: They must be if they're not in the table that stores attributes and they're not in deleted_borrowers
15:06 nengard that's what i think i'm seeing
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15:07 * Nicole C. Engard: link circ and fine rules to right section in circcontrol
15:07 * Nicole C. Engard: add HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn
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15:09 mtompset nengard++ # thanks, that was half of my problem. opacpublic was the other half.
15:10 nengard oops
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15:13 * cait waves from a train again
15:15 oleonard Hi cait
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15:18 cait hi oleonard :)
15:18 koha++
15:20 oleonard Did you do your presentation cait?
15:20 cait yes
15:20 :)
15:20 tcohen cait++
15:20 cait on my way home now
15:20 well almost home, viting friends
15:22 druthb cait++
15:22 The presentation went well.  (No, I wasn't there.  But I know this.  It's cait, ergo, it went well.)
15:23 mtompset Greetings, cait and druthb.
15:23 druthb More formal logic:  cait does good presentations.  cait did this presentation. Therefore, it was a good presentation.
15:23 QED
15:25 jcamins paul_p: Joubu: clrh: what is the license on Koha-RESTful?
15:25 clrh like koha I think jcamins
15:25 we should add a little file ;)
15:25 jcamins Yes you should. :)
15:25 clrh jcamins: you can fork it on github I updated it yesterday
15:25 Yep I will
15:26 someday
15:26 jcamins We're discussing it on #evergreen, and that question came up.
15:26 paul_p hey ! jcamins++
15:26 jcamins I figured you would know. :)
15:26 clrh seems logical to me actually
15:26 paul_p I will say : GPL v3
15:26 (as new Koha things if I'm not wrong)
15:26 clrh jcamins: what was the true question behind ?
15:26 jcamins jeff: GPLv3
15:27 cait clrh: maybe but it soon? it has come up here some time ago too and people are careful about those things
15:27 jcamins clrh: Jeff is working on a RESTful API for Evergreen, and compatibility is a good thing.
15:28 But if the license were something incompatible with EG, it wouldn't be possible to share.
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15:29 cait shared_api++
15:29 clrh jcamins: you can add the gpl v3 and doing a pull request ;)
15:29 jcamins And, of course, I'd like my non-Koha projects to have as compatible an API as possible too: http://demo.biblionarrator.com/doc/architecture
15:29 clrh if it's urgent
15:29 jcamins clrh: no, not urgent.
15:29 clrh ok
15:30 cait clrh: I think someone else then the originator doing the statement would be a bit odd or not? hm
15:30 clrh but don't worry about that please ;)
15:30 I have to leave so have a good evening day...
15:30 week end holidays
15:30 cait bye clrh
15:30 jcamins Have a nice weekend. :)
15:30 cait have anice weekend
15:30 jeff also, i didn't want to read the code for inspiration/etc without seeing a license on it first. :-)
15:31 clrh jeff: it is just a miss not a won't do
15:31 but good remark, I will do it
15:31 bye
15:32 jeff clrh++
15:32 jcamins++
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15:35 gaetan_B bye !
15:37 vfernandes guys anyone know any ttf to use as font on koha PDF that supports iso 8859 and chinese characters?
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15:37 Nicole C. Engard: Add OPAC and Intranet NumbersPreferPhrase prefs
15:39 oleonard nengard: Can you give me an example of a library that has NovelistSelect enabled?
15:39 nengard lost gatos
15:39 and our model
15:39 let me get the urls
15:39 model.bywatersolutions.com
15:39 and
15:40 http://catalog.losgatosca.gov/[…]koha/opac-main.pl
15:40 oleonard nengard: What about LibraryThing? Do you know any with that?
15:40 nengard hmmmm
15:40 not off the top of my head
15:40 let me see if i can find some mention of it
15:40 oleonard Thanks
15:46 nengard not finding any
15:46 asked on twitter :)
15:46 reiveune bye
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16:05 mtompset Greetings, bgkriegel and melia. :)
16:05 melia happy Friday morning!
16:06 oleonard ...or afternoon ...or evening ...or night
16:06 jcamins melia: ugh. How can you torment me like that? It's already past noon.
16:06 melia aaww
16:06 mtompset jcamins: Your day being unproductive?
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16:07 Nicole C. Engard: update Novelist section
16:07 jcamins mtompset: not particularly, actually. I'm just doing labels, which is not one of my favorite tasks.
16:08 But I don't farm out any of the work for this client, so I'm sitting here, preparing labels.
16:08 mtompset Ah, the torment of doing a task you prefer not to do for a length of time you rather not consider.
16:08 jcamins Exactly.
16:09 bgkriegel hello mtompset :)
16:10 tcohen jcamins, will build-git-snapshot build HEAD?
16:11 jcamins tcohen: if that's what you have checked out, yes.
16:11 tcohen it will build what I've HEAD pointing to then
16:12 thanks
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17:05 jwagner Hrmm.  I just updated my community code dev server, and am getting this error when I try to search:
17:05 Undefined subroutine &C4::Search::uri_escape_utf8 called at /home/k32/kohaclone/C4/Search.pm line 1503.
17:05 Is that likely to be Bug 8686?
17:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Raise required version of URI::Escape to 3.31
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17:19 jcamins jwagner: that sounds like a reasonable assumption.
17:19 jwagner OK, thanks. I've asked our IT to update it.
17:32 Yep, that was it. Searching OK now....
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18:02 tcohen has anyone installed koha-common (from squeeze-dev) and enabled ccsr to see how it looks?
18:03 (it looks broken at least on my 12.04 dev server)
18:04 anyone with Debian Squeeze around?
18:04 cait-m_ tcohen - english?
18:04 templsted
18:05 tcohen there's a problem with some css path
18:05 cait-m_ templates
18:05 wahanui templates are written in Template::Toolkit.
18:05 tcohen not templates
18:05 cait-m_ typing bad on phone
18:05 tcohen the path to reset-fonts-grids.css and skin.css are wrong in the packages
18:05 the default ccsr theme setup
18:05 seems broken here
18:05 it is not the case for a standard or dev setp
18:06 its a packages problem
18:06 jcamins It works on 3.10.
18:06 tcohen (related to how libjs-yui puts stuff on the filesystem)
18:06 i'm testing master packages
18:07 jcamins Yeah, that's a good idea. But we can narrow the problem down to something new.
18:07 Because it works in 3.10.
18:08 tcohen bug 9052
18:08 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9052 blocker, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , YUI assets installed in the wrong place by packages
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18:09 jcamins I see the problem.
18:09 prog is hardcoded.
18:09 It should be *
18:09 $(TMP)/usr/share/koha/opac​/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/css/opac.css
18:09 tcohen in debian/rules?
18:09 jcamins Yup.
18:10 Though I have to say rewriting the configuration files makes no sense to me.
18:10 If the other installation methods are putting the file in the wrong place, _that_ is what we should fix.
18:10 tcohen the difference is that we ship the yui libs
18:10 but packages make use of the system's one
18:11 jcamins Right, but if YUI has a standard directory structure, we should use it.
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18:31 ebegin bug #10083 - first patch ever... can you believe it !
18:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10083 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , In Transit string doesn't get translated in the staff interface
18:32 jcamins ebegin++
18:34 ebegin after 6 yrs or so in the Koha community. I guess the first one is the harder.
18:35 jcamins Yep. Now that you've done one, you'll be turning them out by the droves in no time. :)
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18:37 jeff having consulted the wiki, i think i have my answer, but just to confirm... does koha talk NCIPv1, especially the DCB3 profile (used for regional ILL / resource-sharing)?
18:38 and a followup question, have libraries sought such support before? would it be a useful thing / is there a need?
18:43 oleonard jeff: Koha doesn't have any NCIP support
18:44 I thought something useful was going to come out of the FulfILLment project, but nothing yet.
18:45 jeff oleonard: thanks. and as for my followup question -- would any NCIPv1 support meet needs, or is nobody asking for it?
18:46 oleonard My library was interested in it at one time because we thought it would make for better integration into our statewide resource sharing system
18:46 To add it was too expensive, so we never pursued it.
18:47 ...and I don't think we've really missed the integration NCIP promised.
18:51 tcohen got my VPS, named debmaker ;)
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19:09 cait-m_ hm
19:32 tcohen bug 10084
19:32 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10084 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , YUI path wrong in CCSR theme with packages
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19:58 Guest2843 Hello, has anyone tried these installation steps....  1. http://openlib.org/home/kriche[…]installation.html
19:58 2. http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD
19:59 jcamins Thomas's instructions need to be updated.
19:59 I'll let him know at some point.
19:59 The regular installation instructions are fine, of course, but I always recommend:
19:59 packages?
19:59 wahanui packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
19:59 jcamins ^^ those instructions
19:59 Guest2843 ok
20:00 thanks for your opinion, I have just be having some hard times installing this KOHA stuff
20:00 jcamins Koha isn't an acronym, so it needn't all be capitalized.
20:00 Guest2843 and when I discover those two, I decided to know if they work too?
20:00 jcamins And if you follow the instructions I pointed you at to the letter, they will work.
20:01 Guest2843 actually, I have tried but I always get stucked at the point of creating a koha instance
20:02 I have been getting permission denied error ,
20:02 jcamins What is the exact problem you have been encountering?
20:02 Ah.
20:02 You're running other services on the same server?
20:02 Guest2843 Yes, DSPACE
20:03 jcamins I don't think it will make any difference at all what set of instructions you follow.
20:03 Guest2843 I installed both koha and dspace on the server
20:04 jcamins Actually, there are two types of permission denied errors you could be getting.
20:04 What is the *exact* error message?
20:04 Guest2843 ok, will give you now
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20:05 Guest2843 ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:06 I have tried every step I googled and each time and grant all privileges and tred again, the error comes back
20:06 jcamins Why are you using debian-sys-maint?
20:07 Guest2843 well, I just see that, I only login through SSH to my server and run the steps
20:07 jcamins How did you create the instance?
20:07 Guest2843 so do I have to change user?
20:07 jcamins Yes, you should use a user that has permission to access your Koha database.
20:07 Guest2843 sudo koha-create --create-db ....
20:08 jcamins That's good.
20:08 That's the right way to do it.
20:08 Guest2843 but it keeps giving that error message
20:08 jcamins Right, because you hand-edited the configuration file.
20:08 Guest2843 ok, which of the config?
20:08 tcohen do u have mysql-server installed Guest2843 ?
20:09 jcamins Whichever one you edited. I have no idea.
20:09 Guest2843 yes
20:09 i have mysql-server installed
20:10 jcamins, I guess the initial conf file /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf
20:10 that's the only one I know of
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20:10 jcamins Did you have someone else try to set up Koha for you at some point?
20:11 Because your Koha instance should never be set up to access the database with the debian-sys-maint user.
20:11 Guest2843 yes, at the initial stage which did not work because the zebra server refuses to start, that was the reason for the re-installation which I am now doing myself
20:12 jcamins I suggest you remove Koha entirely and start over, because that person seemingly screwed up your system.
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20:12 jcamins I trust you don't have data in the Koha installation?
20:13 Guest2843 No data, its a new installation
20:13 jcamins That's good.
20:14 Guest2843 But I have tried removing ans installing with sudo apt-get purge ... but all still gives the same error at the point of creating koha instance
20:14 jcamins Hm.
20:14 That's odd.
20:15 Guest2843 that's  why I am really confused
20:15 tcohen purge the mysql-server package too
20:15 jcamins Check the file /etc/mysql/koha.conf
20:15 Guest2843 ues, both
20:15 tcohen koha-common.cnf
20:15 jcamins That's what I meant.
20:15 Guest2843 sorry, I meant, Yes, both
20:15 jcamins /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:15 Check that the password matches what's in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
20:16 tcohen bye jcamins, #koha, nice weekend for all
20:16 Guest2843 oh, ok, That's another good point, never checked anything like that
20:17 I will try and purge everything, re-install and then check the files you mention before I do anything else
20:17 jcamins That'd be my recommendation.
20:19 Guest2843 Thanks, I am preparing to do that now, will update you sir,
20:26 jcamins,pls I have a question?
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20:27 Guest2843 Do I reboot the server after purging the two before re-installing them again?
20:27 jcamins Nope.
20:27 Shouldn't be necessary.
20:27 Guest2843 ok, thanks, I am re-installing them now
20:29 ebegin Hey guys, I have a question about how your are diff-ing your .po files... since a single modification changes so many lines in it, it's quite hard to quickly know what have changed
20:30 jcamins ebegin: I don't think anyone uses diff for PO files. They can be merged using POedit or the like.
20:30 Or Pootle.
20:31 Guest2843 Hello jcamins, now I am on installing koha-common, it displays that Configuring koha-common  ...   koha-common upgrade actions required
20:32 jcamins Right.
20:32 Guest2843 which means the old was not completely purged?
20:32 jcamins No.
20:32 Guest2843 ok
20:32 jcamins It displays that whenever you install, because you might be upgrading from an old installation.
20:32 Guest2843 thanks for that... I am continuing now
20:33 ebegin thanks jcamins. it make sens
20:33 e
20:33 Guest2843 I got this error:
20:33 Unpacking koha-common (from .../koha-common_3.08.11-1_all.deb) ...  Processing triggers for man-db ...  Setting up koha-common (3.08.11-1) ...  insserv: warning: script 'koha-zebraqueue-daemon' missing LSB tags and overrides
20:33 jcamins That's fine.
20:34 Guest2843 so koha is installed now?
20:34 jcamins packages?
20:34 wahanui i heard packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
20:34 jcamins ^^ those instructions will tell you what to do next
20:34 (but make sure you check that /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf file)
20:34 Guest2843 yes, I am following the instruction...
20:35 yes, that's what I want to check now and I will inform you before I take the next step
20:35 jcamins You don't need to.
20:36 Basically you should do as much as you can on your own because I have my own job to do.
20:36 rangi i wonder if someone should send the call for proposals to code4lib and ngc4lib too
20:36 jcamins Sounds like a good idea.
20:37 Guest2843 i know sir, thanks a lot, I will do my best
20:37 I have checked the two files and the contents are the same
20:41 this is what I get now:
20:41 sudo koha-create --create-db khlibrary  User khlibrary-koha already exists.
20:41 is this the right response?
20:42 jcamins That means that either you'll have to do some manual cleanup, or choose a different instance name.
20:42 I suggest choosing a differenct instance name, like khlib
20:43 Guest2843 Now I got to the point again:
20:43 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db khlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
20:43 jcamins Hm.
20:43 I have no idea what the problem is, but it sounds like your system is completely messed up.
20:44 Guest2843 I guess as much too
20:44 jcamins If you are able to log in to MySQL you could set up a new user with full privileges on everything and put that one in /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf
20:48 Guest2843 yes I can login to MYSQL
20:49 I will try that now
20:52 rangi we should use more MARC
20:52 jcamins less marc
20:52 wahanui http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800
21:02 Guest2843 jcamins, thanks I have created new user and added it to /etc/mysql/koha-common
21:02 do I bow change to this user and try creating new instance?
21:02 jcamins Just try running koha-create
21:02 Guest2843 ok, thanks
21:03 jcamins You may have to come up with a new name, because of the "User khlib-koha already exists" issue.
21:04 Guest2843 root@sam2:~# sudo koha-create --create-db kohlib  ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'khuser'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
21:04 jcamins And you set the user and password?
21:04 Guest2843 that's the new user I just created
21:04 yes I did
21:05 jcamins Okay, in that case all I can conclude is that you have some other problem with your system.
21:05 Guest2843 yes, I will ask my host to re-install the server for me, that way I can be sure that everything will be fresh
21:08 Thanks so much jcamins, I really appreciate all the help you have given me
21:08 jcamins Good luck.
21:08 Guest2843 I also appreciate everyone that has helped me since yesterday on this forum, Thanks to you all and have a wonderful weekend
21:09 I will be back tomorrow after my server has been installed fresh
21:09 jcamins Just a reminder that it's the weekend tomorrow.
21:09 Guest2843 oh, so this forum do not work on weekends?
21:10 jcamins Most don't.
21:10 No one here gets paid to be here.
21:10 People are on IRC when they are on IRC.
21:10 Often that is while they are at the office.
21:10 Therefore, there are fewer people around during the weekend.
21:11 Guest2843 ok, no issues, at least I I appreciate that fact that some people can helpothers in need, God will bless you all
21:11 I have learnt many things these two days
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21:11 Guest2843 I also konw I can still access the logs in case I need some other help
21:12 thanks a lot
21:13 jcamins rangi++ # nice e-mail
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21:27 tcohen @later tell eythian: take a look at bug 10084
21:27 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
21:29 rangi joubu++ #doing qa
21:31 khall++ #beating me by 3 in sign offs
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