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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:03 | tcohen | who knows, maybe 14 |
| 00:11 | Dyrcona joined #koha | |
| 00:18 | tcohen | good night #koha |
| 00:18 | bgkriegel | tcohen? |
| 00:18 | wahanui | tcohen is 120 |
| 00:18 | bgkriegel | :) |
| 01:12 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 01:12 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #106: "<jwagner> Bah, humbug" (added by druthb at 01:31 PM, November 29, 2010) |
| 02:38 | jcamins | book_fairs++ |
| 02:44 | Hey, does sekjal live somewhere near Worcester? | |
| 02:57 | JDatTeTakere joined #koha | |
| 03:04 | moodaepo joined #koha | |
| 03:30 | bag | jcamins closer to springfield |
| 04:14 | can anyone hear me? | |
| 04:14 | just wondering if I have internet connection | |
| 04:14 | I can't load a single site | |
| 04:15 | cjh | bag: I can read you loud and clear. |
| 04:15 | bag | bummer :( |
| 04:15 | my internets are sucking right now | |
| 04:36 | cait joined #koha | |
| 04:50 | dcook | belated hello, cait :) |
| 04:50 | cait | hey dcook :) |
| 04:55 | bag | heya dcook and cait |
| 04:55 | cait | hi bag :) |
| 04:56 | dcook | hey bag! |
| 04:56 | bag | man my internet is having problems |
| 04:56 | well my office internet | |
| 04:56 | but this seems fine | |
| 04:57 | I am sooo annoyed with this office | |
| 04:58 | good thing I've got a meeting tomorrow morning for a new one | |
| 04:58 | dcook | new office! :D |
| 04:59 | bag | yeah weird I can't even ssh to another server from here |
| 04:59 | but this port seems fine | |
| 05:00 | dcook | :S |
| 05:01 | bag | man this is so annoying |
| 05:02 | alright going to go unplug anything I can get my hands on | |
| 05:18 | dcook | Ahhh |
| 05:18 | bag | no luck |
| 05:18 | dcook | The moment when you can't figure out why changing a property doesn't do anything... |
| 05:18 | bag | man this place is fired! heh |
| 05:19 | dcook | an object's property* |
| 05:19 | bag | I feel like "the donald" |
| 05:19 | dcook | Until you realize that you have to set the property before you load the xml.. |
| 05:19 | "the donald"? | |
| 05:19 | bag | right |
| 05:20 | dcook | Ahhh... |
| 05:20 | Google is my friend... | |
| 05:20 | I forget "the donald" exists most of the time | |
| 05:20 | bag | the sad thing is I'm been complaining about this internet for weeks now |
| 05:20 | Donald Trump aka "the donald" | |
| 05:20 | :P | |
| 05:21 | dcook | Yeah, Google mentioned that ;) |
| 05:21 | cait | brokeninternet makes me very grumpy too |
| 05:21 | bag | well cait at least I have this port working well :) |
| 05:22 | cait | :) |
| 05:22 | bag | and I can hang out with dcook and cait |
| 05:22 | two of my favorites :) | |
| 05:22 | and at least I can use port 22 :) | |
| 05:22 | so sadly I can still work :P | |
| 05:23 | cait | heh |
| 05:23 | dcook | D'awww |
| 05:23 | You're one of my favourites too ^_^ | |
| 05:23 | Yay work! | |
| 05:23 | Wait... | |
| 05:23 | Actually, I'm having a great time | |
| 05:23 | I love work | |
| 05:23 | bag | cait what time is it there? |
| 05:23 | cait | 7:23 am |
| 05:23 | dcook | Annoying idiocyncracies of PHP OOP aside... |
| 05:24 | bag | @google what time is it in Germany |
| 05:24 | huginn | bag: Current local time in Germany - World Time Server: <http://www.worldtimeserver.com[…]t_time_in_DE.aspx>; Germany - World Time Clock & Map: <http://24timezones.com/current[…]/germany_time.php>; Current local time in Germany – Berlin – Berlin: <http://www.timeanddate.com/wor[…]ck/city.html?n=37>; Why Germany Hates Tom Cruise - TIME: (2 more messages) |
| 05:24 | cait | neat |
| 05:24 | bag | :D |
| 05:24 | OH NOES!!! those are all links and I can't click on links right now | |
| 05:24 | cait | lol |
| 05:24 | bag | that sucks |
| 05:25 | cait | you will have to take my word then, it's really 7:25 am now :) |
| 05:26 | dcook | The Canadian will confirm it ;) |
| 05:26 | bag | HA -- Why Germany Hates Tom Cruise - TIME: |
| 05:27 | that's a funny result | |
| 05:27 | @google tell me the time! | |
| 05:27 | huginn | bag: Current local time in London, United Kingdom: <http://www.thetimenow.com/united_kingdom/london>; Martha Davis - Don't Tell Me The Time (1987) Improved Audio! Hit ...: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhcWOLNpDvU>; Doctor, Doctor, Tell Me The Time Of Day | Gardener Is Gone: <http://gardenerisgone.com/2012[…]-the-time-of-day/>; Martha Davis - Don't Tell Me The Time Lyrics: (2 more messages) |
| 05:27 | bag | yeah I believe cait |
| 05:27 | cait++ | |
| 05:27 | cait | ;) |
| 05:28 | hm should I read in my distance study book or do qa before going to work? | |
| 05:29 | bag | half of one and most of the other :P |
| 05:29 | OR most of half and some of all | |
| 05:30 | cait | it's morning - I am totally confused now :) |
| 05:30 | bag | I knew that you'd make up your mind better - than I could suggest :) |
| 05:31 | heh | |
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| 05:36 | shalom | did anyone know how to check the services/itemrecorddisplay.pl script? |
| 05:41 | mtj | shalom, hmm, check how? |
| 05:42 | bag, your interwebs problem is a bit weird, yeah? | |
| 05:42 | irc works ok, but http is borked?! | |
| 05:42 | bag | yeah no kidding mtj |
| 05:43 | cait | h |
| 05:43 | m | |
| 05:43 | I had some bad proxy setting in my browse rlately that caused something similar | |
| 05:43 | irc working, but not internet | |
| 05:43 | bag | I mean I've even flushed dns's and all that |
| 05:43 | by the way mtj you're awesome! | |
| 05:43 | * mtj | waves to shalom, cait , bags |
| 05:43 | cait | hi mtj :) |
| 05:43 | mtj | aww, thanks :p |
| 05:43 | shalom | i don't know how to put it... |
| 05:44 | bag | (I need to get that in everytime I talk to mtj) |
| 05:44 | yup anything on port 80 times out or loads after a long long time | |
| 05:44 | pinging 4.2.2.1 50% dropped packets | |
| 05:45 | shalom | someone suggest to me if i can see the item form in acquisition, it could be the services/itemrecorddisplay.pl script split |
| 05:45 | mtj | bags, i guess you could attempt some tricky ssh tunneling to a VM of yours, on the net? |
| 05:46 | shalom | :( |
| 05:46 | cait | shalom: does it happen in all different browsers? |
| 05:46 | mtj | bag, but, it sounds like your connection is just plain crappy |
| 05:46 | bag | cait I've tried a few different browses and I don't have a proxy |
| 05:46 | shalom | not all |
| 05:46 | cait | shalom: what did you do to create your acq framework? did you change those fields a lot? |
| 05:46 | bag: that was for shalom :) | |
| 05:46 | shalom | no |
| 05:47 | cait | the browsers |
| 05:47 | bag | eh I'd rather just keep doing what I'm doing and then call it a night :) |
| 05:47 | cait | sorry still bit confused |
| 05:47 | mtj | bag, set up a squid proxy on a linode vm, and restict access to your ip |
| 05:48 | bag | I want to leave this office building - so I think this is just another reason to do it :) |
| 05:48 | HAHAHAHAHA sorry cait | |
| 05:49 | I'll do that from my next office mtj :) | |
| 05:50 | mtj | bagz, you are moving offices soon, huh? |
| 05:52 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 05:52 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010) |
| 05:52 | bag | I've got an interview at a new one tomorrow |
| 05:53 | cait | fingers crossedthen :) |
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| 05:53 | bag | heya gmcharlt |
| 05:53 | having fun at the conference ? | |
| 05:53 | wahanui | gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology. |
| 05:54 | gmcharlt | bag: I am! |
| 05:54 | bag | morning paul_p |
| 05:55 | paul_p | hi bag. Just sending mail, and going by car to a meeting (financial/bank/accounting training...) |
| 05:55 | bye & see you later #koha | |
| 05:55 | bag | great! make sure you say hi to Amy terlaga and Ben next time you see them |
| 05:56 | Ames is awesome! | |
| 05:56 | alright bye! | |
| 05:57 | gmcharlt | g'night |
| 05:59 | mtj | ok, i gotta go too… cya #koha |
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| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | bag | hello |
| 06:38 | wahanui | niihau, bag |
| 06:44 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:45 | bag | heya magnuse |
| 06:45 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 06:45 | bag | good morning to you |
| 06:46 | magnuse | hiya bag |
| 06:46 | ooh, today is pizzaday! | |
| 06:47 | bag | yay! yeah Sonja and I do make your own pizza friday nights |
| 06:48 | so that's coming up :) | |
| 06:48 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:48 | * magnuse | makes pizza every friday night too |
| 06:49 | magnuse | bag: but for you it's still thursday? |
| 06:50 | bag | you're soo cool magnuse++ |
| 06:50 | magnuse | huh? |
| 06:50 | bag | I am glad we have more in common :) |
| 06:50 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:51 | bag | except my ability to read normarc :( |
| 06:51 | give me 10 minutes and it's friday! | |
| 06:51 | magnuse | ah |
| 06:51 | hehe, normarc is mostly a subset of marc21 though | |
| 06:51 | mostly... | |
| 06:54 | bag | but in a foreign language :P |
| 06:54 | HA | |
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| 06:54 | bag | alright I think it's time for me to head home… |
| 06:54 | night all | |
| 06:54 | be well | |
| 06:54 | wahanui | goodnight bag. You'll be back. |
| 06:54 | magnuse | have fun bag |
| 06:55 | bag | be excellent to one another and party on doods! |
| 06:55 | magnuse | we'll try! |
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| 07:24 | kf | god morning #koha |
| 07:26 | * dcook | waves to kf |
| 07:27 | dcook | Time to head out for me though! |
| 07:27 | Night all! | |
| 07:27 | wahanui | goodnight dcook. You'll be back. |
| 07:27 | dcook | hehe |
| 07:27 | Yep ^_^ | |
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| 07:34 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:34 | magnuse | moin drojf and kf |
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| 08:07 | alohabot | Hi mib_rm2pu7, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 08:43 | kf | moin magnuse |
| 08:56 | magnuse | hiya kf |
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| 11:37 | khall | hey all, I'm trying to use koha-qa.pl and I get an error most times I try to use it |
| 11:37 | does anyone currently here have much experience with koha-qa.p.? | |
| 11:37 | kf | i am using it |
| 11:37 | but not sure if that counts much :) | |
| 11:39 | khall | : )= |
| 11:39 | 07:36 ~/kohaclone ((a082490...) $)$ koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1 | |
| 11:39 | testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 1c27c3c 'Bug 8215 - Add Course Reserves - QA F') | |
| 11:39 | a082490 Bug 8215: Followup Fix confirmation links for delete course and item | |
| 11:39 | - koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/course_reserves/course-details.tt | |
| 11:39 | sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected | |
| 11:39 | * koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/course_reserves/course-details.ttOK | |
| 11:39 | forbidden patterns OK | |
| 11:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add Course Reserves |
| 11:40 | khall | tt_valid OK |
| 11:40 | valid_template OK | |
| 11:40 | sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected | |
| 11:40 | one current master I even get an error: | |
| 11:40 | 07:40 ~/kohaclone ((596f7a7...) $)$ koha-qa.pl -v 2 -c 1 | |
| 11:40 | testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 88f2dd7 'Merge branch 'bug_9381' into 3.12-mas') | |
| 11:40 | 596f7a7 Merge remote branch 'origin/new/bug_8770' | |
| 11:40 | sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected | |
| 11:40 | sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected | |
| 11:40 | 07:40 ~/kohaclone (qa-current-commit $)$ | |
| 11:40 | note I always end up on the branch qa-current-commit, is that normal? | |
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| 12:00 | kf | hm no |
| 12:00 | I had it happen but it's not normal I think | |
| 12:00 | and sorry, I got called away | |
| 12:01 | khall: the only thing I do different is the sequence | |
| 12:01 | -c 1 -v 2 | |
| 12:03 | hm and I am in my git repository and the file is in the qa-tools one, so I do something like /home/katrin/qa-test-tools/koha-qa.pl -c 1 -v 2 | |
| 12:03 | and nothing of this is probably helfpul for you, khall | |
| 12:03 | khall | hm, I'll try that anyway |
| 12:04 | nope, same deal | |
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| 12:05 | khall | looks like Jonathan may know more, he wrote the last few patches on it |
| 12:05 | mornin tcohen! | |
| 12:05 | tcohen | hi khall |
| 12:05 | kf | khall: did you get the perlcritic file |
| 12:05 | ? | |
| 12:05 | where did you place it? | |
| 12:06 | khall | in my home dir |
| 12:06 | tcohen | i couldn't get koha-qa.pl to use it |
| 12:06 | kf | i think I had the name worng at first |
| 12:06 | khall | lrwxrwxrwx 1 koha koha 37 Mar 25 14:18 perlcriticrc -> /home/koha/koha-qa-tools/perlcriticrc |
| 12:06 | kf | I had it starting with . |
| 12:06 | and problems | |
| 12:07 | did you copy it? | |
| 12:07 | tcohen | actually perlcritic alone didn't use it, i passed --profile path/gile |
| 12:07 | kf | ah symlink? |
| 12:07 | tcohen | i copied |
| 12:07 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5ba1cb517a4cf8e1c |
| 12:07 | and environment variables are set? | |
| 12:08 | tcohen | yes |
| 12:08 | kf | ok, I ran out of ideas |
| 12:09 | i can't check my setup where it's working right now :( | |
| 12:10 | tcohen | i ran perlcritic alone, with --profile to check my patch was OK |
| 12:10 | khall | 08:06 ~$ echo $KOHA_CONF |
| 12:10 | /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 12:10 | 08:10 ~$ echo $PERL5LIB | |
| 12:10 | :/home/koha/kohaclone:/home/koha/kohaclone/C4/SIP:/home/koha/koha-qa-tools | |
| 12:10 | wahanui | hmmm... /home/koha/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml is the one to use, then |
| 12:12 | tcohen | $ echo $KOHA_CONF |
| 12:12 | ~/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 12:12 | khall | I should note I'm just running as the user 'koha' |
| 12:12 | tcohen | $ echo $PERL5LIB |
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| 12:17 | kf | khall: I do that too |
| 12:17 | so it should not be that I guess | |
| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:18 | kf | happy friday oleonard :) |
| 12:18 | khall | mornin oleonard! |
| 12:18 | * oleonard | is stuck with an overly-restrictive firewall again today, so no real IRC, no git :( |
| 12:19 | kf | ouch! |
| 12:19 | can you find the it person and buy him/her pizza? | |
| 12:20 | oleonard | The IT person who configured this firewall is no longer with us. The person who manages it now doesn't know how to open the ports. |
| 12:20 | khall | try a crowbar |
| 12:20 | it'll open most things ; ) | |
| 12:22 | kf | oleonard: find someone else you can buy pizza to distract the it person while you try khall's suggestion? :) |
| 12:23 | it's friday... there is a need for pizza in any plan | |
| 12:23 | oleonard | If I knew khall's plan would work I would implement it without hesitation |
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| 12:24 | alohabot | Hi mib_i6tule, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
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| 12:27 | magnuse | pizza! |
| 12:38 | kf | oleonard: there is nothing wrong with the trial and error approach.... |
| 12:39 | :) | |
| 12:39 | ok, apart from having no internet at all | |
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| 13:02 | druthb | o/ |
| 13:16 | magnuse | \o |
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| 14:04 | zento joined #koha | |
| 14:04 | zento | hi! |
| 14:05 | i want to ask a qustion about community and liblime editions | |
| 14:06 | oleonard | We can answer questions about Koha, but we can't answer questions about Liblime products |
| 14:08 | zento | i want to test two editions |
| 14:08 | first translations | |
| 14:08 | liblime has old translaton packs. can i translate a .po file from english to german | |
| 14:09 | jcamins | zento: probably not, but you'd have to ask someone who uses the LibLime fork. |
| 14:09 | zento | orliblime just can be used in english? |
| 14:09 | kf | zento: are you from germany? |
| 14:09 | zento | no |
| 14:09 | druthb | The community has a whole bunch of active translators already working…the German translation for 3.12 is nigh-on complete. |
| 14:09 | tcohen | zento: this is no place for asking about liblime's koha fork |
| 14:09 | zento | yeah, i see that |
| 14:09 | oleonard | zento: Does Liblime even develop their fork with internationalization in mind? I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was no |
| 14:10 | jcamins | Actually, a correction: I'm pretty sure there isn't any place for asking about LibLime's Koha fork. |
| 14:10 | kf | they are still using HTP I think - the old templating system. |
| 14:10 | Koha supports translation better by now | |
| 14:10 | zento | i want to ask you about solr |
| 14:10 | kf | than the versions bakc then could |
| 14:10 | so even then it would have advantages to use Koha over the liblime version | |
| 14:11 | zento | why dont you work on a same project, i did not understand! |
| 14:12 | jcamins | zento: LibLime forked Koha and made it closed source several years ago. |
| 14:12 | They eventually changed their mind and released their source code, but not before the rest of the community had moved on. | |
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| 14:13 | zento | oh! |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Well, some of their source code. |
| 14:13 | zento | two different projects :( |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:13 | kf | I think people often think liblime started Koha or something, but that's not the case |
| 14:13 | jcamins | They still have at least one proprietary software package they call "Koha," I think. |
| 14:14 | zento | jcamins i agree wity you ;) |
| 14:14 | kf | they were a koha service provider like others, but decided to do things differently... |
| 14:14 | zento | but liblime has good effords too |
| 14:15 | * jcamins | will take your word for that. |
| 14:15 | zento | 4.14 uses solr |
| 14:16 | i did not test it but... | |
| 14:16 | jcamins | Koha 3.10 also supports Solr. |
| 14:16 | I do not think it supports Solr well, but I don't know that it works any worse (or better) than the support in LibLime's fork. | |
| 14:17 | * jcamins | is not a fan of Solr in Koha, though. |
| 14:17 | jcamins | If you ask me, it is a solution in search of a problem. |
| 14:18 | zento | jcamins , do you have information retrieval background? |
| 14:18 | kf | zento: even without Solr Koha uses a search engine - Zebra |
| 14:18 | it works quite well | |
| 14:18 | and even better once the work jcamins is doing will be all done ;) | |
| 14:19 | jcamins | zento: I don't know what you mean by that, but I spend most of my time working on issues of search and indexing. |
| 14:19 | I don't have a degree in the subject, though, if that's what you mean. | |
| 14:20 | * jcamins | contemplates public Z39.50 wanly. |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Have I commented before that we're doing this wrong? |
| 14:20 | zento | jcamins , i have master degree about this topic. Ok, lets forget it |
| 14:20 | thank you all so much | |
| 14:21 | jcamins | If you're looking to contribute to Koha, the version supported by the community is almost certainly the way to go. |
| 14:22 | Well, if you ask me, the version supported by the community is almost certainly the way to go no matter what. | |
| 14:22 | But you probably knew I'd think that. ;) | |
| 14:26 | oleonard | The only good reason to use Liblime's product is that someone is forcing you to do so. Presumably that someone is also paying the bill for it. |
| 14:26 | I can't imagine using a Liblime fork without paid support--there's no community to fall back on for support | |
| 14:27 | Did our lack of masters degrees in information retrieval cause offense? | |
| 14:27 | magnuse | lol |
| 14:28 | druthb | :P |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Hey everyone, don't be surprised if we don't recommend Liblime! Sheesh. |
| 14:29 | jcamins | lol |
| 14:29 | magnuse | well, it must be confusing for someone who does not know the history... |
| 14:30 | jcamins | I read that discussion the same way magnuse did. He was offended that I said negative things about Solr. |
| 14:30 | oleonard | Solr seems to have a devoted following. |
| 14:31 | drojf | we seem to have a high influx of people from turkey looking for solr in koha. or of the same person coming to ask with different names |
| 14:31 | oleonard | I wonder if mbalmer still checks in with Koha to see if we have dropped support for MySQL yet? |
| 14:31 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 14:32 | Probably. | |
| 14:32 | drojf | i have seen him appear on irc for a second not too long ago |
| 14:33 | jcamins | Okay... |
| 14:33 | why is my Z39.50 server listening only on IPv6? | |
| 14:33 | drojf | @seen mbalmer |
| 14:33 | huginn | drojf: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 28 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 21 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously. |
| 14:33 | drojf | that only works for people that talk |
| 14:33 | or it was a dream :) | |
| 14:35 | magnuse | yeah, i think it remembers the last time you said something |
| 14:36 | drojf | yeah. he has been here a few times in march and april, according to my incomplete logs |
| 14:37 | tcohen | why is LangInstaller on the translator dir? |
| 14:37 | magnuse | regarding liblime koha v.s. koha - i think someone had some really revealing stats showing the activity in each project a few months back? |
| 14:40 | LangInstaller.pm? good question... | |
| 14:40 | tcohen | i was about to write a koha-translate command for packages and thought of doing it using Perl ;) |
| 14:41 | magnuse | yay |
| 14:41 | jcamins | You've got to be kidding me. |
| 14:41 | tcohen | but, don't know how to do it if it is not in the lib/ install |
| 14:41 | magnuse | tcohen: have you seen the work eythian has done on i18n for the packages? |
| 14:41 | tcohen | nope |
| 14:41 | magnuse | it's a branch in the catalyst repo |
| 14:42 | jcamins | Older versions of yaz can't listen on ipv4? |
| 14:42 | magnuse | jcamins: i never had trouble with that i think? |
| 14:42 | tcohen | magnuse: so i shouldn't be bothering to write it? |
| 14:42 | jcamins | magnuse: I never had problems with it before either, but that's what the changelog says. |
| 14:43 | magnuse | tcohen: might make sense to have a look at what he has done, and/or talk to him first |
| 14:43 | tcohen: let me try and find the branch for you | |
| 14:43 | tcohen | thanks magnuse |
| 14:44 | magnuse | tcohen: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]eads/wr83663-l10n |
| 14:45 | i meant to test it for a looong time, but never found the time | |
| 14:45 | it probably needs some rebasing now | |
| 14:46 | tcohen | i think i'll ask him later on the status of that work |
| 14:47 | I thought of providing a simple way for the user to install/update their trnaslations | |
| 14:47 | magnuse | tcohen: that could be neat |
| 14:47 | * druthb | perks up. |
| 14:47 | magnuse | eythian has been working on packages for the translations, so you can install e.g. nb-NO |
| 14:47 | tcohen | install, update, delete action switches |
| 14:48 | druthb | That's one of my concerns about pulling the .PO out of the main repo…making sure it keeps things *EASY* for folks who are hacking…and also the installation problem. |
| 14:48 | magnuse | yeah, i guess that could be interesting too, if you want to change your translation without waiting for official packages of it |
| 14:49 | jcamins | druthb: but pulling the .PO files out of the main repo will make it easier. |
| 14:49 | By a lot. | |
| 14:50 | With the .PO files in the main repo, 99.98% of the time, the translations are just plain wrong. | |
| 14:50 | So I (and presumably everyone else) just end up downloading the files off of Pootle anyway. | |
| 14:52 | druthb | I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the sub-project trick in git, and how one goes about updating, etc. |
| 14:54 | magnuse | druthb: submodule? |
| 14:55 | druthb | yah. I've tinkered with it on my box here, but I'm just not quite grokking it. I *know* I need gmcharlt (or someone) to set up an "official" repo on git.k-c.org |
| 14:56 | gmcharlt | druthb: shoot me an email with the deets |
| 14:57 | druthb | willdo! :) |
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| 15:05 | kf | he has this way of suddenly appearing |
| 15:05 | * kf | hands gmcharlt a bag of cookies before he can disappear again |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt | yum! |
| 15:06 | that will sustain me through the Evergreen Board Meeting! | |
| 15:06 | rambutan | just talk about the GE libraries use of koha |
| 15:07 | tcohen | new authorities have been elected at UNC, time to ask my bosses about going to Reno |
| 15:08 | druthb | :D |
| 15:08 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:12 | kf | rambutan: thx for the suggestion - but not sure that woudl be interesting? |
| 15:12 | hm | |
| 15:12 | will think about it :) | |
| 15:12 | rambutan | well, it would be to me. |
| 15:13 | kf | we are not a big koha community here yet |
| 15:13 | slowly growing, but not big | |
| 15:13 | druthb | rambutan: I tried to sell her on that same idea, and she told me the same thing. It *would* be interesting, but can't seem to convince *her* of that. |
| 15:13 | rambutan | or talk about how cookie recipes might be indexed and what marc record the nuts should be listed in |
| 15:14 | kf | lol |
| 15:15 | jcamins | GE uses Koha? |
| 15:15 | rambutan | druthb: yea, I think it's a matter of being too close to the subject to appreciate the interest factor for others (hopefully that's stated in a positive way) |
| 15:15 | and AT & T | |
| 15:16 | and Emerson Electric | |
| 15:16 | kf | i thought he meant germany :) |
| 15:16 | jcamins | Very cool! |
| 15:16 | kf | what did he mean? |
| 15:16 | rambutan | I meant GE = Germany, of course |
| 15:16 | kf | :) |
| 15:16 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 15:16 | kf | ok leaving - bye all :) |
| 15:16 | kf left #koha | |
| 15:16 | jcamins | Isn't ge *East* Germany? |
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| 15:20 | rambutan | I simply used the initial two letters. I think East Germany has left for the day. |
| 15:20 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 15:21 | You have a point. | |
| 15:21 | rambutan | you know, y'all, to kinda pick up on a recent conversation, some support company needs to actively solicit US government work for ILS support. There's both need and $$ there, despite the hassle and red tape. |
| 15:22 | Every three letter organization has a big library, and most of them need lots of help | |
| 15:22 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:55 | tcohen | is it possible to set "empty" for a string translation? |
| 15:55 | Something -> empty | |
| 15:55 | (the default behaviour is that it means "untranslated" I think) | |
| 15:59 | druthb? | |
| 15:59 | wahanui | druthb is our translation manager for 3.12 |
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| 16:06 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 16:07 | I have a question about permissions to edit in Koha. | |
| 16:07 | Let's say I have 3 branches, and want one person to be able to edit 2 of them. Is there a way to do that currently? | |
| 16:08 | jcamins | No. |
| 16:09 | mtompset | So, two different user ids for one person to be able to do that? |
| 16:10 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 16:10 | Or, you know, train your librarians better and don't use independant branches. | |
| 16:12 | mtompset | branches is kind of necessary given their geography compared to other libraries in the group. |
| 16:12 | jcamins | Branches make sense. |
| 16:13 | mtompset | Would this feature be something people would be interested in? |
| 16:13 | jcamins | But the only way to limit someone by branch is to turn on independant branches. |
| 16:13 | @query multiple branches | |
| 16:13 | huginn | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9190 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with holds - allow place a hold without all items checked out |
| 16:13 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2237 enhancement, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Auto-populate 'userid' and 'password' fields with other field values, when adding user | |
| 16:13 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8042 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Batch numbers aren't committed as used until an item is added | |
| 16:13 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6559 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , super librarians can only assign holding to current location | |
| 16:14 | jcamins: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | Bug 9055 might do what you want. |
| 16:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9055 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wrobertson1981, Patch doesn't apply , Mandumah.com's multiple branch search, multiple branch security mod |
| 16:20 | mtompset | Not quite. This seems to be on the searching side of things. |
| 16:20 | I'm thinking more of the catalog-ing, data entry, staff client side of things. | |
| 16:21 | oleonard | Lots of people would be happy with an overhaul to Koha permissions, adding permissions groups and stuff like that |
| 16:21 | jcamins | I still think you should just train your librarians. |
| 16:21 | mtompset | Can't full do that if they are in partner organizations. |
| 16:21 | jcamins | Rewriting permissions would be a great idea, but would require a massive amount of work in order to write code that could get into Koha. |
| 16:22 | oleonard | Agreed. |
| 16:22 | mtompset | I've come back to the SAML 2.0 implementation issue, and it would seem we need to be able to authenticate against multiple methods... like the default MySQL and a SAML 2.0 server. |
| 16:23 | This permissions thing was given on my ponder a solution list too. | |
| 16:36 | oleonard | khall: Did you test Bug 9903 on top of the patch for Bug 9887? |
| 16:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9903 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Sort by date broken on patron detail page |
| 16:36 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use DataTables on circulation page | |
| 16:37 | khall | nope, I didn't notice the depends on. thanks! I'll retest |
| 16:37 | * oleonard | crosses his fingers |
| 16:38 | oleonard | It would be cool if git-bz seamlessly handled bug dependencies |
| 16:38 | khall | yeah, that would be quite nice, wouldn't it? |
| 16:39 | patch looks good. Any idea what the empty column on the far right of the holds table is for? | |
| 16:40 | oleonard | Looks like it shows whether a hold is suspended |
| 16:40 | It doesn't look like that column has a heading in master | |
| 16:40 | ...but it certainly could | |
| 16:40 | khall | indeed, that would be a good idea. |
| 16:41 | and makes it my fault ; )= | |
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| 16:51 | * druthb | blames khall |
| 16:52 | khall | : )= |
| 16:53 | druthb | :P |
| 16:53 | * druthb | comforts khall with cookies |
| 16:54 | khall | lol, thanks! |
| 16:56 | tcohen | druthb: is there a way to translate "Use" into "" ? |
| 16:56 | (solving a wording issue here) | |
| 16:57 | druthb | hm….I don't know. Might translate it to " ", if pootle doesn't accept "" |
| 16:58 | (if I'm understanding the problem. | |
| 16:58 | tcohen | Use "no"|"xxx"|"kkk" field to store something |
| 16:59 | the "Use no" combination is hard to make fit into spanish | |
| 16:59 | druthb | hm. |
| 17:16 | * magnuse | wanders off to make pizza |
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| 18:13 | mtompset | Hmmm... |
| 18:13 | koha is really aimed at authenticating against one source, isn't it? | |
| 18:18 | jcamins | mtompset: authenticating against more than one service isn't something that most people find a need for. |
| 18:20 | mtompset | true. Though, there are cases where it makes sense. |
| 18:20 | For example, we have libraries across Asia entered as branches. | |
| 18:20 | We want any member of our organization to be able to sign into OPAC. | |
| 18:21 | That's one data source. | |
| 18:21 | (SAML 2.0 would mean I wouldn't have to transplant all the users in) | |
| 18:21 | But, we also want partner organizations to be able to sign in too. | |
| 18:21 | That's the other data source. | |
| 18:22 | (use the default Koha MySQL for them) | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | You are welcome to try and make that possible, but my gut reaction is that the issue here is not so much lacking functionality as that you are trying to do something that Koha was not designed to do. |
| 18:22 | If there is no sort of central authentication, how on earth can you rely on credentials? | |
| 18:23 | The way other libraries deal with this is they have their LDAP for local users, and create Koha users for outside users. | |
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| 18:25 | mtompset | So LDAP authentication works at the same time as authentication against the Koha user's database? |
| 18:25 | jcamins | Yes. If you can't authenticate against an existing Koha user, you check LDAP. |
| 18:27 | mtompset | Hmmm.... that sounds like what I want, except SAML 2.0 first, then Koha user. |
| 18:31 | tcohen | can anyone try installing the es-ES translation and confirm the string for "Password" (at login) is broken if UTF8 selected for view? |
| 18:31 | (Password > Contraseña) | |
| 18:32 | mtompset | refresh my memory how to install it? |
| 18:33 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]NET_staff_client? | |
| 18:33 | Dyrcona | @quote add <dbs> MARC is not machine readable. |
| 18:33 | huginn | Dyrcona: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 18:33 | Dyrcona | oops. |
| 18:33 | wrong channel. :) | |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Dyrcona: it's true here too. |
| 18:34 | Dyrcona | Heh. |
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| 18:36 | mtompset | paste? |
| 18:36 | wahanui | it has been said that paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 18:37 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "What I saw from 'perl translate install es-ES'" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/467 |
| 18:37 | mtompset | warnings? errors? should I be concerned? |
| 18:39 | oleonard | I get that every time too mtompset, but I don't think it affects the outcome |
| 18:41 | mtompset | which version, tcohen? |
| 18:41 | tcohen | master |
| 18:41 | i'm not sure is the .po, the translation scripts... | |
| 18:42 | cannot find the problem, but chenging the encoding to iso-8859-1 fixes it... | |
| 18:42 | mtompset | Because my log in screen for Koha is just fine for 3.11.00.200 -- has that spanish n. |
| 18:43 | tcohen | i'm on current squeeze-dev packages |
| 18:43 | no, sorry | |
| 18:43 | master | |
| 18:43 | http://snag.gy/LIfZC.jpg | |
| 18:45 | ouch, I mean, squeeze-dev packages | |
| 18:45 | working on fridays should be forbidden for me | |
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| 19:25 | mtompset | Sorry for the lag. Upgrading to the latest dev on QA. |
| 19:29 | chris_n | @seen mbalmer |
| 19:29 | huginn | chris_n: mbalmer was last seen in #koha 28 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <mbalmer> I see it a bit different, obviously. |
| 19:29 | mtompset | Clearly if you don't speak, that number doesn't get refreshed. |
| 19:30 | Because I thought I saw him a couple weeks ago. | |
| 19:32 | Ah ha! There I have confirmed it is broken, tcohen. | |
| 19:32 | If I change to Western, it is valid. :( | |
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| 19:52 | oleonard | Busy day for jwagner, lots of Liblime-bashing to report. |
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| 20:09 | mtompset | Okay... this is weird... I can't stay logged in using IE?! |
| 20:10 | jcamins | mtompset: to the staff client? |
| 20:10 | mtompset | Yes, the staff client... oh... perhaps my cookie settings are too protective. |
| 20:11 | Bingo! Because the site is lacking a compact privacy policy? or something like that. | |
| 20:11 | jcamins | That's a pity. |
| 20:12 | But as the Koha staff client explicitly is not IE-compatible, hardly surprising. | |
| 20:12 | mtompset | what is a compact privacy policy? |
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