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Time | Nick | Message |
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00:00 | wizzyrea | they are irritating aren't they |
00:00 | * jcamins | contemplates just pulling out the saw. |
00:00 | wizzyrea | hammer. |
00:01 | jcamins | I thought about that, but I don't really feel like going outside to whack a coconut with the hammer. |
00:01 | dcook | I suggest a combination |
00:01 | Last time, I used a knife to cut off the relatively soft outside | |
00:01 | Then bashed the hard shell with a brick | |
00:01 | I didn't have a hammer... | |
00:02 | jcamins | I tried following the instructions for using a heavy knife, and that didn't work, which means I need something very solid to brace the coconut against. |
00:02 | dcook | Hmm |
00:02 | Why didn't the knife work? | |
00:03 | You should be able to cut through at least 1/2-1 inch | |
00:03 | jcamins | dcook: I suspect because I'm not able to exert enough force. |
00:03 | wizzyrea | the back of the knife |
00:03 | jcamins | No, not cutting... |
00:03 | wizzyrea | were you whacking in the right spot? |
00:03 | jcamins | the instructions are to whack it with the back of the knife. |
00:03 | No idea. | |
00:03 | dcook | O_o |
00:03 | wizzyrea | http://www.wikihow.com/Open-a-Coconut |
00:03 | dcook | That seems preposterous |
00:04 | wizzyrea | there's a specific spot, the meridian of the cocount |
00:04 | that is the best place to wahck | |
00:04 | jcamins | That's what I'm reading now. |
00:04 | Yeah, that's where I was whacking the coconut. | |
00:04 | wizzyrea | whack and rotate tho? |
00:04 | jcamins | But then some other instructions make it look like you should be hitting it parallel to the fibers. |
00:04 | Yep. | |
00:04 | Round and round and round. | |
00:04 | wizzyrea | hrm |
00:05 | jcamins | Maybe the problem is that my knife was too wimpy. |
00:05 | I'll try holding it and whacking it with a hammer. | |
00:05 | wizzyrea | yea a cleaver might work better |
00:05 | jcamins | Then I'll freeze it. |
00:05 | dcook | Admittedly, their knife looks rather impressive |
00:05 | jcamins | Per the heating/freezing method. |
00:05 | dcook | Wouldn't heating/freezing screw with the integrity of the fresh coconut? |
00:06 | Well...in a non-desirable way I mean | |
00:06 | wizzyrea | oh, or tap/rotate on a solid edge |
00:06 | don't you have stone counters? | |
00:06 | i like the corkscrew and plastic bag smash method as well | |
00:06 | * liw | suggests an orbital laser cannon |
00:06 | wizzyrea | hi liw :) |
00:07 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I don't even have a counter that is affixed properly to the cabinets. |
00:07 | And I hate cheap wood floors. | |
00:07 | dcook | liw++ |
00:07 | bathroom tile? | |
00:07 | jcamins | *have |
00:07 | dcook: hmmm... | |
00:08 | dcook | Although smashing the tile is sub-optimal.. |
00:08 | jcamins | Yeah. |
00:08 | dcook | I used the tub |
00:08 | But I wasn't hitting it too too hard | |
00:08 | Just enough to create and spread fissures | |
00:08 | Plus, it's a pretty solid steel tub | |
00:09 | jcamins | We have a cheap plastic liner. |
00:09 | * dcook | thinks he has photos on FB... |
00:09 | jcamins | However, the hammer seems like it might be working. |
00:09 | dcook | :D |
00:09 | hammer++ | |
00:09 | * wizzyrea | totally needs one of these |
00:09 | wizzyrea | http://pad1.whstatic.com/image[…]sianUtensil-4.jpg |
00:09 | dcook | not to be confused with captain_hammer, corporate tool. |
00:09 | wizzyrea | a coconut shredder |
00:10 | dcook | I was wondering what that was, wizzyrea |
00:10 | I was starting to think the article was a gag at that point | |
00:10 | wizzyrea | $15 at the asian market? Sign me up! |
00:10 | trea | ooo |
00:11 | wizzyrea | "wrap it in a towel and hit it with a hammer" |
00:11 | as good an idea as any | |
00:11 | Don't put the nut in the oven with the water inside. It might explode if it is left for too long and the water ferments. | |
00:11 | kek. | |
00:11 | jcamins | lol |
00:11 | I already drained it. | |
00:11 | wizzyrea | Never try to bite open a coconut. It will not open it and will break your teeth. |
00:11 | jcamins | That was easy. |
00:11 | lol | |
00:12 | Hm. | |
00:12 | It's still not open. | |
00:12 | wizzyrea | turn and whack. |
00:13 | When the coconut begins to crack it may quickly split open and then close again before it breaks. Be careful not to get any part of your hand caught in the crack (ouch!). | |
00:13 | * wizzyrea | avoids getting her hand caught in cracks as a general rule |
00:13 | * dcook | was the emergency room child. Car doors did not like the feet and hands of dcook. |
00:13 | wizzyrea | perhaps you had impatient parents |
00:14 | dcook | That would perhaps explain why it stopped happening after I got older... ;) |
00:14 | wizzyrea | okhesinthecarGOGOGO |
00:14 | OMGFINGERS | |
00:14 | dcook | Fortunately, the hospital was on the way |
00:14 | Usually | |
00:14 | wizzyrea | >.< |
00:15 | jcamins | lol |
00:15 | * wizzyrea | feels terrible guilt if she even bumps into kiddo, cannot imagine how awful she would feel if she actually got his fingers stuck in a car door |
00:15 | wizzyrea | I stepped on his toes once, you'd think the world ended. |
00:15 | jcamins | Hey, it's 8:15 and I have spent the last half hour trying to open a coconut instead of making dinner. |
00:15 | I should do that. | |
00:15 | wizzyrea | you should eat coconut for dinner. |
00:16 | dcook | coconut dinner! |
00:16 | * wizzyrea | is thoroughly enjoying this sunbeam that is on her back |
00:16 | * dcook | tries to remember why he split open a coconut last time |
00:16 | dcook | Mmm sun |
00:17 | wizzyrea | because you wanted coconut. |
00:17 | dcook | Noticed a few people with umbrellas today. Wanted to say, "enjoy the warmth of the sun while you can!!!" |
00:17 | eythian | sun like that makes me sleepy |
00:17 | dcook | I think my local master chef wanted to use coconut, and she was busy |
00:17 | Plus, who doesn't like smashing things? | |
00:18 | wizzyrea | sun like this makes me waarm |
00:18 | which could equal sleepy | |
00:18 | if I wasn't freezing. | |
00:18 | so instead it just makes me happy :) | |
00:19 | dcook | @wunder wellington |
00:19 | huginn | dcook: Error: No such location could be found. |
00:19 | dcook | Oh... |
00:19 | wizzyrea | @wunder nzwn |
00:19 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (12:00 PM NZST on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
00:19 | wizzyrea | i'm freezing because the aircon in here is overzealous. |
00:20 | dcook | ...aircon? |
00:20 | O_o | |
00:20 | wizzyrea | 14 is not the worst temp ever. |
00:20 | dcook | No, but it's chilly enough |
00:20 | I once had a roommate that kept our apartment at 17 | |
00:20 | wizzyrea | 17 is about perfect for sleeping. |
00:20 | :P | |
00:21 | dcook | Not so great for writing essays :p |
00:24 | * jcamins | doesn't like smashing things. |
00:24 | jcamins | But I really wanted coconut. |
00:24 | wizzyrea | perhaps becoming one with your manly desire to smash things would be good for you. |
00:25 | jcamins | lol |
00:25 | Yeah, but becoming one with the reality that I live within three feet of forty other people gets in the way with the first epiphany. | |
00:25 | wizzyrea | possible targets of smashing include: keyboards, drywall, coconuts. |
00:26 | coconuts probably being the least expensive of the three | |
00:26 | jcamins | lol |
00:26 | Probably. | |
00:28 | dcook | hehe |
00:29 | Of course, terracotta might give the best sound | |
00:29 | wizzyrea | oh true |
00:29 | dcook | I think there used to be a place in the US where you could pay to smash things |
00:29 | I think plates and such were fairly common | |
00:31 | Mmm, could really go for some coconut chocolate now... | |
00:35 | jcamins | I should have bought two bunches of broccoli. |
00:40 | What should i put in the yogurt dressing? | |
00:42 | Other than turmeric and garlic, which I already put in. | |
00:44 | I decided to go classic. | |
00:44 | Sumac and tarragon. | |
01:17 | dcook | Mmm sumac |
01:18 | jcamins | The non-poison variety. |
01:19 | dcook | O_O |
01:20 | Well, Manoosh hasn't poisoned me yet, so I suspect they use the non-poison variety with their za'atar | |
01:20 | jcamins | Heh. |
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01:59 | * dcook | is glad that Koha is written in Perl |
01:59 | dcook | Java is a pain... |
02:00 | Correction. Compiling Java is a pain. | |
02:03 | jcamins | Everything about Java is a pain. :P |
02:04 | dcook | I did think about adding to the list, but I figured that would be too much typing ;) |
02:04 | Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this way ^_^ | |
02:04 | I suppose I've never met anyone who said they actually like Java | |
02:05 | jcamins | We have one person who complains about Koha not being written in Java. |
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02:07 | * dcook | twitches |
02:07 | dcook | hi alex_a_ |
02:07 | That wasn't in relation to you :p | |
02:37 | eythian | @later tell magnuse bug 10018 fixes the b-g-s help text version, but I can't find the original bug you reported it in. |
02:37 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
02:50 | eythian | @later tell tcohen master/3.13 packages uploaded |
02:50 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
03:05 | jcamins | Wow... |
03:06 | The bootstrap designers didn't quite think through their modal functionality. | |
03:06 | There's seemingly no way to find out if the modal was cancelled or accepted. | |
03:15 | eythian | surely not |
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03:19 | cjh | jcamins: you can bind callbacks to each button |
03:20 | jcamins | cjh: yeah, but what about enter and escape? |
03:21 | I guess you set a global flag. | |
03:21 | Stupid, stupid, stupid. | |
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03:23 | cjh | doesn't have to be global, can be an attribute on anything that is set in the accept callback. |
03:24 | eythian | wahanui: I have no idea is <reply>¯(°_o)/¯ |
03:24 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
03:28 | jcamins | I think every Javascript developer had to sign something swearing to design everything stupidly. |
03:30 | Bootstrap seems to have been specifically designed so that you can't combine functionalities. If you have a modal, you can't have anything on the form. | |
03:30 | *anything on the modal, like a form | |
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05:09 | cait | morning #koha |
05:10 | eythian | hi cait. |
05:10 | go back to bed. | |
05:10 | cait | hi eythian :) |
05:10 | lol | |
05:10 | nope | |
05:10 | not today :) it's 7 | |
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05:11 | * dcook | waves to cait |
05:11 | cait | hi dcook :) |
05:11 | dcook | I actually got up at 6:30 today, so I'll stop telling you to go to bed ;) |
05:12 | Actually, I think I woke up at 5:30, but crawled out of bed at 6:30 | |
05:16 | * cait | wonders if jcamins managed to open the coconut? |
05:19 | cait | my dad wouldn't have let me move out without a toolbox and a hammer... hammer in the right spots works well |
05:32 | * dcook | is curious now about whether or not jcamins ever opened the coconut too |
05:34 | eythian | He's probably still working on it |
05:34 | dcook | Wouldn't be if he had gone for that orbital laser |
05:38 | http://www.adobe.com/misc/linking.html#linking | |
05:38 | I never knew Adobe was so rigid about how to link to them | |
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06:07 | * magnuse | waves |
06:08 | magnuse | eythian++ for bug 10018 |
06:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10018 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Building version update for master/3.13 |
06:09 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
06:09 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -2.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
06:14 | * dcook | waves to magnuse |
06:14 | * magnuse | waves to magnuse |
06:14 | magnuse | gah! |
06:14 | * magnuse | waves to dcook |
06:14 | dcook | hehe |
06:15 | magnuse | hm, maybe i should take that as a sign to get back to bed? |
06:15 | dcook | Bed is wonderful... |
06:15 | I don't know how cait does this waking up early thing | |
06:15 | I still have yoga to go to tonight. Let's hope I don't fall asleep part way through... | |
06:16 | magnuse | hehe |
06:16 | cait | cait doesn't do it really well... no secret about it |
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06:38 | magnuse | @later tell eythian: i did not report a bug for the version in build-git-snapshot, i just added it as a comment on some other bug |
06:38 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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06:38 | reiveune | hello |
06:40 | cait | hi all and bbl :) |
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06:44 | magnuse | @later tell eythian: my original comment was on http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9918 |
06:44 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
06:44 | 04Bug 9918: major, P1 - high, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Packaging updates for 3.12 | |
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07:00 | magnuse | moin drojf |
07:00 | drojf | hei magnuse |
07:00 | and good morning #koha | |
07:03 | dcook | allo drojf |
07:03 | drojf | hi dcook |
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07:12 | christophe_c | hello koha |
07:13 | dcook | hey chirstophe_c |
07:15 | Does anyone have a quick explanation of $limit, $limit_cgi, and $limit_desc in buildQuery in Search.pm? | |
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07:15 | dcook | Looks like $limit_cgi is added to the query string.. |
07:15 | kf | heya |
07:15 | :) | |
07:15 | dcook | hey ya kf :) |
07:16 | $limit is used in the SQL | |
07:16 | But is there any function for $limit_desc? :S | |
07:19 | Hmm, out of time | |
07:19 | Yoga! | |
07:19 | kf | have fun |
07:19 | dcook | Ta kf and all! |
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07:40 | drojf | moin kf |
07:40 | kf | moin drojf |
07:42 | drojf | if i have two sets of authories for topical terms and put one into marc 650… what do i do with the other? |
07:43 | kf | hm? |
07:43 | 650 is repeatable | |
07:43 | but what do you mean with sets? | |
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07:47 | drojf | two different "normdatentypen", like mytopics1 and mytopics2. if i would repeat 650, i could still only have one of them linked for 650. i think. does that make sense? |
07:49 | kf | hm no |
07:50 | it probably does, guess it's me | |
07:50 | drojf | heh i doubt it |
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08:17 | rangi | hmm |
08:18 | magnuse | ? |
08:19 | rangi | just bumped into another example of not being as welcoming as we could/should be to new developers |
08:19 | i think we need to work on that as a group | |
08:19 | * kf | agrees |
08:19 | wizzyrea | oh which? |
08:19 | wahanui | i guess which is a blocker if it is true bug |
08:19 | wizzyrea | forget which |
08:19 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot which |
08:20 | wizzyrea | that's "which bug" |
08:20 | rangi | bug 9671 |
08:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9671 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , fines.pl cronjob help lists wrong values for finesmode syspref |
08:21 | wizzyrea | oh right |
08:21 | i liked the one gmcharlt did | |
08:21 | when trea forgot to add a test plan | |
08:21 | he was kind enough to add it | |
08:22 | magnuse | rangi++ for looking out for new recruits :-) |
08:28 | kf | rangi++ :) |
08:29 | wizzyrea | anyway, yea it might be nice to be a little more welcoming to new people - at least one or two free passes. |
08:30 | where you fix it up and show them how it should be | |
08:30 | there's always time to demoralise them later ^.^ | |
08:30 | not that w want to do that.. | |
08:30 | rangi | i want them to do my job so i can drink mojitos |
08:30 | and read books | |
08:30 | wizzyrea | ^^^ |
08:31 | we don't have enough mojitos rangi | |
08:31 | we should strive to have more | |
08:31 | rangi | yes |
08:31 | we should have mojito oclock | |
08:31 | wizzyrea | word. |
08:31 | also we have been neglecting random food friday :) | |
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08:32 | ashu | hi |
08:32 | wahanui | hey, ashu |
08:32 | wizzyrea | hi |
08:32 | ashu | is koha freeware software ? |
08:32 | wizzyrea | it is free software |
08:32 | free in cost and free as in freedom. | |
08:32 | rangi | its free software, under the GNU definition of free software (sometimes called open source software by others) |
08:33 | ashu | can i use it for my school absolutely free ? |
08:33 | wizzyrea | where cost = licensing fees |
08:33 | yep | |
08:33 | rangi | if you have the skills needed yes |
08:34 | ashu | it is work on windows xp or later ? |
08:34 | kf | having 5 numbers now for bug codes is very irritating |
08:34 | wizzyrea | why kf? |
08:34 | kf | i think we shoudl change the numbering |
08:34 | * kf | hides |
08:34 | wizzyrea | ! |
08:34 | ashu | which types of skills i need ? |
08:34 | rangi | linux server admin ones primarily |
08:35 | ashu | it is work on windows xp or later ? |
08:35 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
08:35 | it is a web application, you can use it on any platform | |
08:36 | but the server runs on linux (or in a virtual machine on windows) | |
08:36 | rangi | you need a linux server, either as a virtual machine on some other host (could be windows) or a physical machine for the server, but then as wizzyrea says the client can be aanything that runs a web browser |
08:36 | wizzyrea | (which is still linux) |
08:37 | ashu | in this link i download koha-latest.tar.gz (50 mb file) |
08:37 | is this file working on linux redhat 5.0 ? | |
08:38 | wizzyrea | it will work, but it will be easier on debian |
08:38 | ashu | what is debian ? |
08:38 | wahanui | debian is what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
08:39 | ashu | what is debian ? |
08:39 | wahanui | i heard debian was what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
08:39 | wizzyrea | debian is a linux distribution |
08:40 | like redhat, but not redhat | |
08:40 | ashu | is it working on both bit of debian (32 or 64) |
08:40 | wizzyrea | yes |
08:41 | ashu | is it working on both bit of debian (32 or 64) ??? |
08:41 | is debian free os ? if yes where can i download ? | |
08:42 | rangi | @google debian |
08:42 | huginn | rangi: Debian -- The Universal Operating System: <http://www.debian.org/>; Debian -- Getting Debian: <http://www.debian.org/distrib/>; Debian on CDs: <http://www.debian.org/CD/>; Debian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian>; DistroWatch.com: Debian GNU/Linux: <http://distrowatch.com/debian>; The Debian Project (debian) on Twitter: <https://twitter.com/debian>; (1 more message) |
08:42 | kf_mtg | ok |
08:42 | no meeting | |
08:42 | wizzyrea | http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
08:43 | rangi | ashu: have you configured and maintained a linux server before? |
08:44 | ashu | is koha has OPAC ? |
08:44 | wizzyrea | http://koha-community.org/demo/ |
08:44 | kf | yes, koha has an OPAC |
08:44 | wizzyrea | give it a go :) |
08:45 | ashu | how can i configure koha OPAC ? |
08:45 | wizzyrea | manual? |
08:45 | wahanui | i heard manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
08:46 | kf | that is a too complicated question to answer here |
08:46 | wizzyrea | :) |
08:46 | kf | best you start with the manual to get an overview of the features and options |
08:47 | ashu | which is the latest version of koha ? 3.10 or 3.12 ? |
08:47 | wizzyrea | 3.12 isn't out yet, so currently it will be 3.10 |
08:48 | ashu | u suggest me the link of downlaod koha and i download 50 mb something file. which version is this ? |
08:48 | wizzyrea | 3.10 |
08:49 | ashu | can i completely downlaod manual 3.10 in my pc ? |
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08:49 | wizzyrea | there should be a pdf, yes |
08:49 | rangi | gaetan_B: you are in kurdistan now? |
08:50 | gaetan_B | rangi: hi :) yes just starting the installation work ! |
08:50 | ashu | i click on 3.10 Manual (English) [PDF] and open this link which i can;t download pdf file http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/ |
08:50 | gaetan_B | rozh bash everyone ;) |
08:50 | ashu | i click on 3.10 Manual (English) [PDF] and open this link which i can;t download pdf file http://manual.koha-community.org/3.10/en/ |
08:50 | wizzyrea | we heard you ;) |
08:51 | guess there is no pdf then | |
08:51 | i thought nengard was generating those | |
08:51 | http://es.koha-community.org/m[…]0.x/en/manual.pdf | |
08:51 | from here | |
08:51 | http://koha-community.org/documentation/ | |
08:53 | ashu | you send me link manual.pdf is opening in my google drive but its fail |
08:53 | kf | hi gaetan_B - arrived well? |
08:53 | gaetan_B | yes, didn't sleep much though ! ;) |
08:53 | wizzyrea | it is a huge file |
08:53 | ashu | you send me link manual.pdf is opening in my google drive but its fail i also try it on chrome browser |
08:54 | i receive this massage " you send me link manual.pdf is opening in my google drive but its fail" | |
08:54 | thanks i receive good bye | |
08:54 | wizzyrea | it's taking a very long time to download for me |
08:55 | cool bye | |
08:55 | ashu | ok ok thanks and good bye |
08:55 | rangi | 7% |
08:55 | * wizzyrea | needs a mojito after that |
08:55 | rangi | thats what i give that |
08:55 | kf | ah |
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09:49 | magnuse | yay for bug 10020 |
09:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10020 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Remove old code related to 'ethnicity' |
09:50 | kf | magnuse: volunteering? :) |
09:50 | magnuse | nah, just cheering from the sidelines :-) |
09:50 | kf | ooh :) |
09:50 | @wunder Konstanz | |
09:50 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 11.1°C (11:50 AM CEST on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
09:51 | wizzyrea | i suspect 10020 will met some resistance. |
09:51 | but I supose i people want to track it they can use borrower attributes | |
09:55 | magnuse | yup |
09:55 | and if there is no way in the interface to use those things any longer, why would anyone complain? | |
09:56 | kf | wizzyrea: not sure it will - it seems you are not able to use it |
09:56 | for a while | |
09:56 | at least since 3.2 | |
09:56 | more worried about the notifys one | |
09:59 | magnuse | does anyone know what that was? |
10:00 | wizzyrea | some places do use it though, i'm almost certain |
10:01 | anyway, not gonna look into it now :) | |
10:03 | kf | wizzyrea: I asked rangi and he didn't get grumpy |
10:03 | I think.... | |
10:03 | so maybe it's safe | |
10:03 | magnuse | hehe |
10:03 | wizzyrea | the one I was thinking of was one he'd probably defend, so if he says it's alright it probably is |
10:04 | kf | patron attributes are pretty neat now |
10:04 | rangi | as long as the patch includes a check the columns are all empty and if not migrates the data to extended attributes |
10:04 | its all ok | |
10:04 | kf | they display nicely and have lots of options |
10:04 | * kf | hides |
10:04 | rangi | but if the patch simply drops the column wihtout checking its empty ill be more than grumpy |
10:05 | kf | okok :) |
10:05 | i added that to the bug :) | |
10:08 | rangi | i added stronger words :) |
10:08 | there is no if possible :) we simply cant delete libraries data in an upgrade | |
10:08 | kf | i thought about leaving it alone |
10:08 | I didn't think about deleting it when there is something .) | |
10:09 | but we will have to check - not sure if you can map it | |
10:09 | all information into patron attributes that is | |
10:09 | because I am not sure how it used to work | |
10:09 | rangi | its just a text field |
10:09 | wizzyrea | crazy idea, maybe just leave it off of new installs? |
10:10 | rangi | code wont match the schema then |
10:10 | that would be worse | |
10:10 | kf | rangi: borrowers would be easy, was not sure about ethnicity - should probably be an authorized value |
10:10 | it's for 3.14 anyway I think | |
10:10 | rangi | definitely |
10:10 | way too dangerous to do now | |
10:10 | kf | no sense to delete things right now |
10:10 | yep | |
10:11 | I think I marked it 3.14? I wanted to | |
10:22 | * rangi | wanders off to bed |
10:22 | kf | sleep well :) |
10:34 | gaetan_B | see you later :) |
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11:11 | * magnuse | waves to nengard, then wanders off to find lunch |
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11:26 | marcelr | hi koha |
11:39 | * kf | waves to marcelr |
11:39 | * marcelr | waves back |
11:41 | * kf | sighs |
11:41 | kf | people rebasing their new feature now seems bad timing |
11:41 | enough bugs out there to fix | |
11:46 | jcamins | Is this surprising? |
11:46 | kf | probably not |
11:47 | * jcamins | didn't think so either. |
11:47 | kf | but we have others as well - like oleonard :) |
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11:47 | kf | hi paul_p |
11:48 | paul_p | hi kf & others |
11:49 | @later tell chris_n, nope I haven't had any feedback about a problem with labels in unimarc | |
11:49 | huginn | paul_p: The operation succeeded. |
11:49 | paul_p | @later tell chris_n, which version of koha, which context (your question is a little bit general i'm afraid) |
11:49 | huginn | paul_p: The operation succeeded. |
11:55 | jcamins | paul_p: whichever version of Koha is mentioned in the mailing list thread on the issue, probably. |
11:56 | paul_p | jcamins (sorry, i've missed the ML, I just answered a "later tell paul_p") |
11:57 | jcamins | Ah. Someone sent a message to the list asking why labels with UNIMARC were broken, I think. |
12:00 | kf | morning jcamins :) |
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12:09 | oleonard | Hey #koha |
12:10 | marcelr | hi oleonard |
12:11 | kf | hi oleonard++ :) |
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12:29 | tcohen | morning |
12:29 | wahanui | i guess morning is a state of cat |
12:32 | tcohen | hi kf |
12:33 | i need to keep my testing site updating to the latest 3.12 snapshots, what's the repo? | |
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12:34 | jcamins | squeeze-dev |
12:34 | wahanui | it has been said that squeeze-dev is master |
12:35 | tcohen | it is pulling 3.13* packages |
12:35 | jcamins | Yes. |
12:35 | tcohen | need 3.11* |
12:36 | jcamins | They're the same thus far. |
12:36 | tcohen | ok, thanks jcamins |
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12:46 | kf | hi tcohen |
12:46 | drojf | hi #koha |
12:48 | tcohen | hi drojf |
12:48 | marcelr | hi drojf |
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13:02 | drojf | hi marcelr and tcohen |
13:02 | oleonard | Is it to be expected that a search for "Lets go for a drive" doesn't return the title "Let's go for a drive" in the first page of results? |
13:03 | jcamins | oleonard: unfortunately, yes. |
13:03 | We need some indexing changes. | |
13:03 | kf | the '? |
13:03 | wahanui | the ' is fine ’ isnt |
13:04 | drojf | lol |
13:05 | magnuse | search rewrite? |
13:05 | wahanui | hmmm... search rewrite is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
13:06 | druthb | http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/talk/4710 |
13:07 | My talk has been accepted. :) | |
13:07 | kf | :) |
13:07 | oleonard | 20 minutes is too short! |
13:07 | * druthb | dances around. |
13:07 | kf | hm it doesn't have a title |
13:07 | ? | |
13:08 | druthb | I know! But this conference is a TED-dish sort of thing…*everything* is quasi-lightning. |
13:08 | kf; "An Ecological View of a FOSS Community: Koha" | |
13:09 | kf | ah :) |
13:09 | the problem olugbenga has | |
13:09 | it's zebra not having indexed what it's supposed to match on? | |
13:11 | magnuse | the title shows up here: http://www.yapcna.org/yn2013/user/9458 |
13:11 | ...the title of druthb's talk, that is :-) | |
13:15 | kf | :) |
13:16 | druthb | I'm speaking mid-morning on the second day of the conference. This is a Good Thing, as by the third day, most everyone is getting a lil run down. It's an intense con. |
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13:36 | kf | jcamins: hm do you know which state the frameworks in koha are now in? |
13:36 | it looks like we aremissing all the $0 subfields? | |
13:40 | magnuse | state of denial |
13:41 | jcamins | ^^ exactly |
13:41 | kf: but the revised frameworks are sitting at PQA. | |
13:41 | Which is probably the answer you wanted. | |
13:41 | kf | PQA? |
13:41 | and no, they don't have $0 | |
13:41 | jcamins | Passed QA. |
13:41 | wahanui | i guess passed qa is the queue jcamins should watch |
13:41 | jcamins | Oh. |
13:41 | kf | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9353 |
13:41 | huginn | 04Bug 9353: minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks |
13:42 | kf | that's why I am a bit confused right now :( |
13:42 | jcamins | Oh, I pushed it? |
13:42 | kf | yep you did |
13:42 | oh | |
13:42 | jcamins | Cool. |
13:42 | kf | could we point out somewhere that this is only for enlgish frameworks? |
13:42 | jcamins | Go ahead. |
13:42 | kf | I was thinking release notes |
13:42 | jcamins | Sure. |
13:42 | kf | not sure where to put it |
13:43 | jcamins | Remind me when I'm writing release notes. |
13:43 | kf | but now I wonder which updates they processed |
13:43 | jcamins | Preferably with the exact wording you want. |
13:43 | kf | as I can't find the $0 subfields |
13:43 | hehe | |
13:44 | jcamins | Nope, I don't see $0 either. |
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13:45 | kf | at least I found the marc documentation now |
13:45 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/up8bib[…]hic/bdapndxg.html | |
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13:45 | kf | guess we will have to add some more. ugh |
13:45 | magnuse | kf: are your marc21 frameworks translated to german? |
13:45 | kf | if only that wasn't so unpleasant |
13:45 | magnuse: they are | |
13:46 | but the official german translation was never updated... | |
13:46 | tcohen | kf, do u know which is the dataset for t/db_dependent/Search.t |
13:46 | kf | which means that i don't know how to translate newer fields |
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13:46 | jcamins | tcohen: it comes with its own dataset. |
13:46 | magnuse | marcmustdie! |
13:46 | jcamins | Yeah, after acq the most unusable part of Koha is the frameworks. |
13:46 | * jcamins | leaves |
13:46 | tcohen | no no jcamins |
13:46 | dont leave :-D | |
13:47 | does that test load the data set on its own? | |
13:48 | kf | tcohen: you can't stop him I think |
13:51 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
13:51 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #46: "<brendan> tip - don't pet a burning dog" (added by a user that is no longer registered at 04:08 AM, November 14, 2009) |
13:52 | * druthb | blinks |
13:53 | druthb | @quote random |
13:53 | huginn | druthb: Quote #222: "jcamins: test patches, don't feed trolls." (added by druthb at 07:49 PM, December 07, 2012) |
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13:56 | magnuse | ooh 222 should be easy to remember |
13:59 | bonjour clrh | |
14:00 | clrh | salut magnuse |
14:00 | magnuse: how was you second week in marseille ? a little bit rainy I think | |
14:01 | * kf | waves to clrh |
14:02 | clrh | hi kf |
14:03 | magnuse | clrh: yeah, quite varied weather, but there were some really nice days, so all good! |
14:03 | clrh | cool |
14:10 | tcohen | kf, should I patch updatedatabase.pl to remove the stopwords table? |
14:11 | * magnuse | would think so |
14:14 | kf | tcohen: and remove the pref it wasn't yet I think |
14:17 | tcohen | it was removed already |
14:17 | by the NZ patch | |
14:17 | kf | ah good :) |
14:17 | the nz patch? | |
14:17 | tcohen | NoZebra vestiges removal |
14:17 | kf | ok |
14:17 | do we need to backup the data in there somehwere? | |
14:17 | like create a text file from it? | |
14:17 | or can we just drop? | |
14:18 | tcohen | i'm not sure we havea way for saving that data during update, or preventing the user about it |
14:18 | the table is unused corrently, not sure | |
14:18 | kf | hm |
14:18 | I mean, it's stop words | |
14:18 | not very important data.... | |
14:19 | tcohen | i'll let the QA team discuss what to do with to-delete tables, and fix accordingly |
14:20 | magnuse | tcohen++ |
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15:06 | reiveune | bye |
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15:14 | tcohen | has anyone successfully used Test::MockModule in a test for inter-dependent modules? like mocking C4::Context which is used by a mocked other lib? |
15:19 | kf | tcohen: not sure - maybe check the tests that are using mock right now? |
15:20 | tcohen | i'm struggling with writing the tests fro bug 9659 because of this, the ->mock ->unmock are not working as expected |
15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports |
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15:26 | kf | hm sorry, I don't have much experience writing tests |
15:27 | maybe ask jcamins when he is around again? | |
15:27 | chris_n | seen this --> https://www.catincan.com/ |
15:27 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'this', chris_n |
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15:42 | oleonard | nengard: Regarding Bug 10024, have you tried clearing your browser cache? |
15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10024 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , stars are radio buttons in both themes |
15:43 | nengard | k you can close that |
15:43 | and the other one | |
15:43 | wahanui | well, the other one is that the passwords would be created on each individual machine. |
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15:43 | nengard | they were both cause of some old code i guess i was holding on to |
15:45 | g_dusseault | Hello! can you look at: http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]e_dsc&format=rss2 |
15:47 | nengard | oleonard, i lied |
15:47 | g_dusseault | for "Test local CCSR" there's a local image that doesnt appear with RSS feed and for "Test CCSR Amazon" there's an image from Amazon who appears |
15:47 | nengard | bug 10024 is fixed with a clear cache in master - but not 3.10.4 |
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15:49 | oleonard | Looks okay to me nengard |
15:50 | g_dusseault: What do you mean 'for "Test local CCSR"' | |
15:50 | g_dusseault | the name of the record: http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]e_dsc&format=rss2 |
15:51 | it looks like local image cover doesnt appear in RSS feed | |
15:51 | nengard | oleonard: http://model.bywatersolutions.[…]rdl:%20the%20help |
15:51 | what do you see? | |
15:51 | oleonard | g_dusseault: Local cover images in RSS was probably never implemented. |
15:57 | g_dusseault | Ok i will open a ticket on bugzilla |
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15:59 | oleonard | nengard: I see the problem on the page you link to, but not in my system. I would suggest testing in an non-customized system to be sure. |
16:05 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.213 pasted "Any clue why the last test doesn't work?" (31 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/466 |
16:06 | tcohen | a good soul around? (with unit tests skills heh) |
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16:17 | tcohen | anyone? :-P |
16:17 | this is preventing a cute patch from inclusion | |
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16:34 | * cait | feels tmpted to send a gentle reminder to the list that 3.12 is not out of the door yet! |
16:35 | liw | release angst? |
16:40 | druthb | @wunder 77098 |
16:40 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Royal Brook, Houston, Texas is 25.2°C (11:38 AM CDT on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.73 in 1007 hPa (Rising). |
16:40 | druthb | @wunder austin, TX |
16:41 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Austin, Texas is 8.2°C (11:31 AM CDT on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
16:41 | druthb | @wunder Amarillo, TX |
16:41 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Oliver-Eakle, Amarillo, Texas is -1.2°C (11:39 AM CDT on April 10, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.13 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
16:41 | druthb | lordy. |
16:41 | beast of a cold front headed our way. | |
16:42 | * druthb | pokes edveal gently. |
16:42 | oleonard | cait: Why? |
16:47 | cait | because people start focusing on new features again |
16:52 | or it feels like they do - and not talking about you of course | |
16:57 | tcohen | hmm |
17:01 | * cait | might be just a bit grumpy about other things |
17:01 | cait | and too tired |
17:10 | * tcohen | sends cait good vibes |
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17:25 | tcohen | What's that "Koha timeline" thing? |
17:39 | found a workaround! | |
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18:13 | cait | thx tcohen :) |
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18:21 | alaquerre | Hi all, we are looking to migrate the RDA framework. Do you know if there is already work done on translation in french ? I know it exist in english. |
18:23 | cait | alaquerre: I haven't heard anything - french uses are mostly using unimarc I think |
18:24 | alaquerre | In Canada, we use Marc21... okay then, look like I will look at translate it :-) |
18:25 | I'll post it back on the wiki once it's done. | |
18:25 | cait | :) |
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18:42 | nengard | QA team 1/2 the help files weren't QA'd can that go on someone's list? bug 9850 |
18:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, Signed Off , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update |
18:42 | nengard | they're all just text changes |
18:43 | cait | they are already on the list |
18:44 | we are working through them as fast as we can :) | |
18:44 | string freeze is may 1st | |
18:45 | tcohen | how can I generate an empty array reference? |
18:45 | (anonymously) | |
18:46 | [] | |
18:58 | cait, I forgot to run koha-qa.pl before sending unit tests for bug 9659 | |
18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9659 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Undefined authorised value category yields empty dropdown menu on SQL reports |
18:59 | tcohen | sorry for that, cannot fix ATM as am leaving right now |
18:59 | cait | maybe just make a note? |
18:59 | tcohen | there's a perlcritic error i think |
19:01 | cait | in won't look at it tonight, but not sure about the others |
19:02 | tcohen | ok cait, see u tomorrow! |
19:02 | cait | have a nice evening :) |
19:02 | bag | heya cait |
19:02 | cait | hi bag |
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19:11 | bgkriegel | Hi |
19:11 | wahanui | hello, bgkriegel |
19:12 | bgkriegel | cait? |
19:12 | wahanui | well, cait is qam, not your secretary |
19:12 | cait | yes? |
19:13 | bgkriegel | HI, bug 5858 has all missing "0" in framework |
19:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags |
19:13 | cait | bgkriegel: awesome! :) |
19:13 | bgkriegel: I wanted to ask you about the state of the updates | |
19:14 | does this include all fields now from the varoius updates to the standard? or is there more that we need to do? | |
19:14 | bgkriegel | it checked with loc site, with a script. I think that none is missing |
19:15 | cait | ah |
19:15 | i wonder.. we had some recent patches adding missing fields | |
19:15 | that were pushed | |
19:15 | if those will collide with this one | |
19:15 | guss we will se on trying to apply the patch | |
19:15 | bgkriegel | could be, i'll check |
19:15 | cait | also only the default framework is changed |
19:15 | if you did it by script, maybe you could do the optional ones too? | |
19:16 | not sure how hard that would be | |
19:16 | and FA | |
19:17 | bgkriegel | yes, I touched only default framework. I could do the same with the others ... |
19:17 | to add missing fields/subfileds | |
19:17 | cait | bgkriegel: that would be quite cool rally |
19:17 | and an updatedatabase | |
19:17 | wahanui | an updatedatabase is missing a curly bracket? |
19:18 | cait | maybe if you have no time, you could share the script? |
19:18 | I will need to update the german frameworks too | |
19:18 | bgkriegel | yes, of course |
19:19 | cait | I think I was looking at bug 9353 earlier today |
19:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9353 minor, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Missing subfields on MARC21 frameworks |
19:19 | cait | that might be the one conflicting now |
19:19 | bgkriegel | I see on the irc log |
19:19 | I have conflicts, I'll rebase and resubmit | |
19:19 | cait | thx for contacting me :) |
19:19 | cool ) | |
19:19 | I will put it on my testing list | |
19:19 | :) | |
19:19 | bgkriegel | :) |
19:20 | cait | ah, I am qa contact already |
19:20 | so it will show up in my list | |
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20:15 | rambutan | test |
20:15 | chris_n | you passed :) |
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20:17 | bag | HA chris_n++ |
20:26 | rambutan | I haven't found a chat client I like yet. With Thunderbird chat it's very difficult to tell whether you are logged on or not. |
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20:37 | kathryn | morning :) |
20:37 | cait | morning kathryn :) |
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20:45 | rambutan | morning Kathryn |
20:45 | kathryn | morning cait and rambutan :) |
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20:54 | tweetbot | ..: http://t.co/0ZxptjlaxL" |
20:57 | senator | @marc 785 |
20:57 | huginn | senator: Information concerning the immediate successor to the target item (chronological relationship). When a note is generated from this field, the introductory phrase may be generated based on the value in the second indicator position for display. (Repeatable) [b,c,d,g,h,i,k,m,n,o,r,s,t,u,w,x,y,z,6,7,8] |
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21:19 | tcohen | use Modern::Perl implies use strict, right? |
21:19 | cait | yes |
21:19 | I think so | |
21:19 | use strict and use warnings | |
21:20 | tcohen | koha-qa.pl or perlcritic complains of no use strict |
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21:30 | tcohen | bgkriegel: do u know if perlcriticrc provided by koha-qa.pl git repo is working on taking Modern::Perl as a synonym of strict+warnings? |
21:30 | rangi | it will if you have that in your rc |
21:30 | look in t/perlcriticrc in koha | |
21:30 | [TestingAndDebugging::RequireUseStrict] | |
21:30 | equivalent_modules = Modern::Perl | |
21:31 | [TestingAndDebugging::RequireUseWarnings] | |
21:31 | equivalent_modules = Modern::Perl | |
21:31 | you want that | |
21:31 | tcohen | yeap, but I unit test file i wrote is not passing that critic test |
21:31 | cait | tcohen: if you copy the file form the repo in the right place it should work |
21:34 | tcohen | it seems perlcritic is not using the file |
21:34 | used --profile to point to it worked | |
21:35 | my setup must be kindof broken | |
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21:41 | cait | night all :) |
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22:27 | mtj | ooh, Test::Perl::Critic::Progressive does allow you to use a different 'perlcriticrc' file than the ~/ default |
22:27 | i must have overlooked that | |
22:28 | use Test::Perl::Critic::Progressive ( ':all' ); | |
22:28 | set_critic_args(-profile => 'your/koha/perlcriticrc); | |
22:28 | . | |
22:29 | eythian | hi |
22:30 | mtj | heya eythian :) |
22:30 | eythian | hmm, I know I have messages in huginn but they're not being told to me |
22:31 | oh, it's because they were addressed to 'eythian:'. huginn needs to be smarter about that. | |
22:32 | mtj | aah, good that you spotted the problem, tho |
22:33 | haay, i just found out that paul.fenwick is at next weeks perlmongers | |
22:34 | thats pretty exciting :p | |
22:35 | * mtj | is gonna try to make that one |
22:36 | eythian | yeah, he is. If you got the emails you'd know :) |
22:40 | mtj | yes yes, good point eythian :) |
22:43 | ok, now subscribed to wgtn.pm list | |
22:52 | wizzyrea | I like how they do "browse" with a callout |
22:52 | http://www.iwonderweather.co.nz/ | |
22:57 | bag | heya eythian mtj and wizzyrea |
22:58 | wizzyrea | even though it's a little glitchy on my screen, I thill like how it calls attention to it |
23:02 | mtj | hey bagz, wiz |
23:02 | bag | bagz in da house :) |
23:02 | wizzyrea | actually I think koha would look fab with that kind of layout |
23:02 | mtj | wizzyrea, the weather site looks nice - is it one of yours? |
23:02 | bag | just trying to keep up with the mtjz ;) |
23:03 | wizzyrea | i don't think so |
23:03 | doesn't look like it - it says generically "metservice" | |
23:04 | rambutan | site doesn |
23:05 | ....oops... | |
23:05 | wizzyrea | though their background image appears then disappears for me |
23:05 | rambutan | 't display the image correctly for me. They scroll all the way across, but instead of stopping in the center they go almost off screen |
23:05 | wizzyrea | it's a little glitchy |
23:06 | * wizzyrea | suspects browser incompatibilities |
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