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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:14 | eythian | jcamins: what'd I do? |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | hi CanuckPaul |
| 00:17 | CanuckPaul | Hi - is that Liz - paul.a here (absolutely new to IRC) |
| 00:18 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 00:18 | you found me out. | |
| 00:18 | CanuckPaul | a wild guess |
| 00:18 | * wizzyrea | thought it might be you |
| 00:19 | CanuckPaul | what do italics mean? |
| 00:19 | wizzyrea | it's an action, more or less |
| 00:19 | you can do it by typing /me | |
| 00:19 | and then the thing you do | |
| 00:19 | like /me makes a sandwich | |
| 00:19 | turns into | |
| 00:19 | * dcook | waves to CanuckPaul |
| 00:19 | * wizzyrea | makes a sandwich |
| 00:20 | CanuckPaul | Is that David fro down-under (sometimes on MarcEdit? |
| 00:21 | * CanuckPaul | I'll have to get used to all this |
| 00:22 | wizzyrea | ah it'll be 2nd nature soon enough :) |
| 00:22 | CanuckPaul: are you going to KohaCon? | |
| 00:23 | CanuckPaul | Love to, but rarely travel these days -- too long in the tooth |
| 00:23 | dcook | CanuckPaul: This is the CanuckDavid who just happens to live and work down under ;). Haven't used MarcEdit in a while |
| 00:24 | CanuckPaul | At least you're missing the snow! |
| 00:24 | dcook | I hear it's been a rather bizarre winter! |
| 00:24 | I think it's still snowing in Saskatchewan | |
| 00:25 | wizzyrea | worst drought in 100 years here |
| 00:25 | CanuckPaul | Ours is meting now - and the first crocusses (croci?) are beginning to sprout |
| 00:26 | *melting* | |
| 00:26 | Neat - *bold* | |
| 00:28 | dcook | wizzyrea: :( |
| 00:28 | wizzyrea | yea, the moisture is all topsy turvy |
| 00:28 | too much or too little in weird places. | |
| 00:29 | dcook | Are you in Picton, CanuckPaul? |
| 00:29 | CanuckPaul | Yup -- "The County" |
| 00:32 | dcook | Mustn't be too bad ;) |
| 00:33 | Being a (mid-)Westerner, we used to tease Easterners (aside from Maritimers, of course) about winter | |
| 00:34 | CanuckPaul | We get a lot of "lake effect" - either too much or none |
| 00:35 | What's the etiquette for gracefully quitting? Now coming up supper time | |
| 00:35 | wizzyrea | ah, just say "later!" and log :) |
| 00:35 | think of it like exiting a room full of friends | |
| 00:35 | "gotta jet, dinner!" | |
| 00:36 | jcamins | eythian: "Java port" |
| 00:36 | CanuckPaul | c u l8er - best - paul |
| 00:36 | CanuckPaul left #koha | |
| 00:41 | thd | rangi: Are you present? |
| 00:41 | rangi | for some definition yes |
| 00:42 | thd | rangi: I have no mail from the Koha list this month at kohalist AT agogme.com |
| 00:42 | rangi | yep, ive asked |
| 00:43 | thd | asked? |
| 00:43 | Do you mean no one has mail? | |
| 00:43 | jcamins | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
| 00:43 | jenkins_koha | jcamins: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
| 00:43 | Starting build #1137 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #1135 7 hr 7 min ago) | |
| 00:44 | rangi | yes, working on finding out why, its probably all buffered somewhere |
| 00:44 | thd | As long as it is not just me I am more reassured. |
| 00:44 | * jcamins | looks at this as a blessing: the over-long version number discussion is only going on on one mailing list. |
| 00:45 | thd | I was banned a few years ago after a server outage resulted in bounces. |
| 00:45 | Thanks rangi | |
| 00:49 | * thd | goes to sleep for the first time in three days. |
| 00:52 | eythian | jcamins: ah :) |
| 01:53 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 01:53 | Project Koha_master build #1137: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1137/ | |
| 01:55 | wizzyrea | confetti |
| 01:55 | wahanui | o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 01:55 | dcook | For a minute, I thought that read "jcamins: Yippie, build fixed!" |
| 01:55 | I can't imagine jcamins saying yippie :p | |
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| 02:44 | thanhthuy | Excuseme! |
| 02:44 | Can I set up Koha on Window server 2003? | |
| 02:45 | eythian | Koha really only works on Linux. |
| 02:45 | wizzyrea | you can in a virtual machine. |
| 02:45 | but see above. | |
| 02:50 | rangi | (as a server that is, the client is of course just a web browser) |
| 02:50 | wizzyrea | right, thanhthuy - which did you mean, can you run the koha server on windows server 2003, or "can I use the web interface on windows server 2003" |
| 02:55 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 02:55 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #229: "rangi: relax, I signed it off :)" (added by wizzyrea at 08:59 PM, January 02, 2013) |
| 02:55 | wizzyrea | hehehehehe\ |
| 02:58 | rangi | i wonder what that was about |
| 02:59 | eythian | rangi: bug 7919 |
| 02:59 | wahanui | bug 7919 is, like, an example |
| 02:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes) |
| 03:00 | rangi | ah right |
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| 03:07 | mtj | i just clicked… its been a while since ive seen a tweet on #koha |
| 03:09 | rangi | heh |
| 03:10 | mtj | i think i may have had alohabot and tweetbot using the same sqllite3 file, oops |
| 03:10 | eythian | heh |
| 03:11 | not ideal | |
| 03:20 | gmcharlt | @later tell jcamins I've started testing and pushing QAed bugfixes to master for you to pick for 3.12 |
| 03:20 | huginn | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:21 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote branch 'origin/new/bug_8770' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f2b6894fefbacf9d> / Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c5e6dd6c9dd24ca79> | |
| 03:21 | thanhthuy | can I run the koha sever that use to manage information at the library on windows server 2003 |
| 03:22 | rangi | if you run it as a virtual machine yes |
| 03:22 | using vmware or some other tool | |
| 03:22 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1138 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 03:26 | jcamins | gmcharlt: thanks. |
| 03:26 | eythian | ah, the koha list has started to move |
| 03:30 | thanhthuy | thanks! |
| 03:35 | wizzyrea | hah, always funny when you see a message that you forgot you wrote. |
| 03:35 | "oh hey, i'm funny!" | |
| 03:40 | cait joined #koha | |
| 03:41 | wizzyrea | no, back to bed with you |
| 03:41 | it is far too early for you. | |
| 03:46 | cait | lol |
| 03:46 | whom are you talkin with? | |
| 03:47 | wizzyrea | YOU. |
| 03:47 | * cait | looks behind her if there is someone names you |
| 03:47 | * dcook | used to work with a girl named Yuu :p |
| 03:48 | dcook | O_O |
| 03:48 | 5:48am? | |
| 03:48 | cait | *rolleyes* |
| 03:48 | * cait | pretends to go back to bed |
| 03:48 | wizzyrea | smarties. |
| 03:50 | * wizzyrea | sings cait a soothing lullaby |
| 03:50 | wizzyrea | sorry not_cait |
| 03:50 | not_cait | lol that is mean |
| 03:50 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUgmzUV02NY |
| 04:16 | * not_cait | is still awake |
| 04:16 | not_cait | and soft kitty is only for when I am sick! |
| 04:17 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nluv2yWP1JM |
| 04:18 | you won't be after listening to this. | |
| 04:19 | * wizzyrea | should have lead with that one. |
| 04:19 | not_cait | well... your evil plan failed... I can't watch this |
| 04:19 | wizzyrea | ! why~ |
| 04:19 | not in your country? | |
| 04:20 | not_cait | noone in germany can |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
| 04:20 | wait, for what reason? | |
| 04:20 | not_cait | copyright |
| 04:20 | wizzyrea | youtube or ... something else that I'm not aware of. |
| 04:20 | ok | |
| 04:21 | not_cait | you can ask rangi how he calls it |
| 04:21 | wizzyrea | http://grooveshark.com/s/The+R[…]tion/4DKYEp?src=5 |
| 04:21 | rangi | GEMA its redonkulous |
| 04:21 | wizzyrea | how about that one |
| 04:22 | not_cait | you are aware that it is my normal get up time by now? |
| 04:25 | eythian | Germany is the among the most censored countries in the world thanks to GEMA |
| 04:25 | * not_cait | sighs |
| 04:26 | eythian | that's no excuse for being up so much before it |
| 04:29 | wizzyrea | ^^^^^^^^ what he said |
| 04:31 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1138: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1138/ |
| 04:31 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits | |
| 04:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8770 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits |
| 04:33 | * not_cait | should stop watch news in the morning :( |
| 04:38 | eythian | is it all terrible? |
| 04:39 | not_cait | in part |
| 04:44 | so how is monday? | |
| 04:45 | wizzyrea | today has actually felt alright :) I think it will improve. |
| 04:45 | not_cait | good to know |
| 04:46 | wizzyrea | (and by improve, I mean, for those of you for whom it has started out kind of crap.) |
| 05:13 | not_cait | hm |
| 05:13 | dcook | mhm |
| 05:15 | not_cait | hi dcook |
| 05:15 | dcook | hey ya not_cait |
| 05:16 | Good morning so far? | |
| 05:16 | not_cait | yep |
| 05:17 | avoiding learning math... so my apartment is very tidy now | |
| 05:17 | dcook | hehe |
| 05:18 | So that's the secret to having a tidy apartment | |
| 05:18 | not_cait | yep |
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| 06:08 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:08 | not_cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 06:10 | magnuse | KIA ORA not_cait! |
| 06:11 | not_cait | ;) |
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| 06:26 | mtj | kia ora magnuse and cait |
| 06:26 | magnuse | hiya mtj |
| 06:26 | mtj | just reading bug 8378 |
| 06:26 | cait | hi mtj |
| 06:26 | bug 8378 | |
| 06:26 | wahanui? | |
| 06:26 | wahanui | cait? |
| 06:27 | magnuse | bug 8378 |
| 06:28 | mtj | hmm, its huginn that does the bugs, yeah? |
| 06:28 | * mtj | tickles huginn |
| 06:28 | magnuse | ah right |
| 06:28 | cait | ah yes |
| 06:28 | mtj | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 |
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| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug 8378: major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 06:28 | cait | mtj: hope there is nothing wrong with it? |
| 06:29 | mtj | no no… everything is right with it :) |
| 06:29 | murali | hello everyone....... I am new to Koha....... |
| 06:29 | i want to customize it to our library | |
| 06:29 | can anyone please help me | |
| 06:29 | thanks in advance | |
| 06:30 | mtj | hi murali, and welcome :) |
| 06:30 | cait | murali: a good starting point is here |
| 06:30 | manual? | |
| 06:30 | wahanui | i heard manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 06:31 | murali | actually i have installed it on my server......... |
| 06:32 | does this documentation help me how to customize it? | |
| 06:32 | cait | it will help you to configure koha |
| 06:32 | and make use of the features | |
| 06:32 | it will also point out how to add content to the opac and which preferences oyu can use to change the layout | |
| 06:33 | murali | ok thanq......... |
| 06:34 | can you also please provide a tutorial to change the functionalities too | |
| 06:35 | cait | murali: same link |
| 06:35 | look through it | |
| 06:35 | and what you can't find you can ask | |
| 06:35 | murali | ok thanq so much............... |
| 06:35 | for evry one | |
| 06:36 | i will be on that work and if i get any doubts will ask u people | |
| 06:36 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:36 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.2°C (8:35 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 06:36 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 06:36 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
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| 06:36 | cait | bbl |
| 06:37 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 06:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 9.0°C (8:30 AM CEST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 06:37 | mtj | hi reiveune |
| 06:38 | reiveune | :) |
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| 06:53 | alex_a | hello |
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| 07:12 | kf | morning #koha |
| 07:12 | magnuse | well hello there kf! |
| 07:13 | kf | hi magnuse :) |
| 07:15 | samuel joined #koha | |
| 07:16 | samuel | hi everybody |
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| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hello |
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| 07:24 | christophe_c | hello #koha |
| 07:25 | rangi | yay http://www.gw.govt.nz/water-su[…]-situation-update |
| 07:26 | and hi all | |
| 07:35 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
| 07:36 | taking_shorter_showers-- ;-) | |
| 07:39 | rangi | its better than it was, there was a total outdoor ban, it was getting close to extreme |
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| 07:43 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:44 | rangi | hi drojf |
| 07:44 | drojf | hi rangi |
| 07:44 | oh the main list is alive again | |
| 07:45 | kf | itis |
| 07:45 | drojf | hi kf |
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| 08:13 | pastebot | "rangi" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "bug 9414" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/462 |
| 08:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9414 major, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Fix sample letters for German and Norwegian |
| 08:13 | rangi | kf ^^ |
| 08:14 | can you tell me which of those should win in fixing the conflict | |
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| 08:32 | * rangi | is working on a fix for bug 9933 |
| 08:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, ASSIGNED , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries |
| 08:33 | rangi | and this line is making my head hurt |
| 08:33 | my $branch = $input->param('branch') || ( C4::Branch::onlymine() ? ( C4::Branch::mybranch() || '*' ) : '*' ); | |
| 08:33 | kf | mine too |
| 08:33 | rangi | thats the problem line tho |
| 08:33 | kf | i can totally imagine |
| 08:33 | is that a new line? | |
| 08:33 | rangi | and why you cant ever change any rule except for all libraries |
| 08:34 | nope, doesnt seem to be | |
| 08:34 | kf | weird |
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| 08:36 | rangi | ah ha |
| 08:37 | branch is set twice | |
| 08:37 | first is null | |
| 08:37 | <form method="post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl"> | |
| 08:37 | <input type="hidden" name="op" value="add" /> | |
| 08:37 | <input type="hidden" name="branch" value=""/> | |
| 08:37 | kf | rangi++ |
| 08:38 | gaetan_B | oh wow bz 8061 got pushed over the week end ! nice job kf, Chris, Karam and Jared :) |
| 08:39 | rangi | should make 3.12 easier for our rtl friends :) |
| 08:39 | kf | gaetan_B: I was thinking of you :) |
| 08:39 | gaetan_B | kf: thanks, that will be my birthday present then :) |
| 08:40 | this is great really, i am so happy to see this has happened ! | |
| 08:40 | rangi | bug 4534 |
| 08:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4534 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Box for SQL not visible in "Create Report from SQL" |
| 08:40 | rangi | hmm |
| 08:40 | bug 4354 | |
| 08:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4354 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit existing issuing rules |
| 08:40 | rangi | that one |
| 08:41 | kf | gaetan_B: is it today? |
| 08:42 | rangi: bad testing on my part :( | |
| 08:42 | * gaetan_B | blushes |
| 08:43 | kf | so it is? |
| 08:43 | Topic for #koha is now Ra whanau ki a koe gaetan_B | |
| 08:43 | rangi | it is now :) |
| 08:43 | gaetan_B | it is :) |
| 08:44 | kf | Alles Gute zum Geburtstag! |
| 08:44 | gaetan_B | dankeschön :) |
| 08:44 | and i even got a gift from the community with bz 8061, this is really nice!! | |
| 08:44 | magnuse | gratulerer med dagen, gaetan_B |
| 08:45 | kf | gaetan_B: it probably still needs some more work, but the opac didn't look too bad when I tested it |
| 08:45 | and it's a good starting point for more refinements .) | |
| 08:45 | gaetan_B | i am sure it's already a nice step forward, i'll see this with the kurdish team soon |
| 08:47 | rangi | anyone want to sign off a blocker? |
| 08:48 | its super easy! | |
| 08:48 | bug 9933 | |
| 08:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries |
| 08:48 | rangi | gaetan_B: how long does it take to get to kurdistan? |
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| 08:49 | gaetan_B | rangi: something like 9 hours |
| 08:49 | rangi | hiya davidnind |
| 08:49 | gaetan_B: ahh, safe travels | |
| 08:49 | gaetan_B | :) |
| 08:49 | davidnind | Hi rangi |
| 09:07 | kf | rangi++ |
| 09:09 | meh | |
| 09:09 | Are you sure you want to delete the < this is not translatable in a good way | |
| 09:09 | I have no idea what the rest of the sentence is and it probably still wouldn't work with sane grammar | |
| 09:09 | *grump* | |
| 09:11 | magnuse | half a day on 3.10.4 and no complaints yet - yay! |
| 09:11 | rangi | i know the rest of the sentence |
| 09:12 | kf | I do now too :) |
| 09:12 | rangi | :) |
| 09:12 | magnuse: yay! | |
| 09:13 | kf | you know what's worse? it was me changing the templates in that way, because before they wouldn't be picked up at all |
| 09:13 | the strings | |
| 09:13 | I guess best would be rephrasing | |
| 09:16 | or teach it to be able to work with concatenation and replace wth %s | |
| 09:23 | rangi | and another blocker |
| 09:23 | bug 9591 | |
| 09:23 | wahanui | bug 9591 is a weird one |
| 09:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item |
| 09:23 | rangi | it was weird, was tricky to spot |
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| 09:50 | magnuse | weird_and_tricky_to_spot-- |
| 09:52 | rangi | yep and trivial to fix after spotting the problem |
| 09:52 | those are the most annoying ones | |
| 09:53 | drojf | i'll test bug 9933 |
| 09:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9933 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Changing/editing circulation rules for specific library affects all libraries |
| 09:54 | rangi | yay! |
| 09:54 | thanks drojf | |
| 09:55 | kf | drojf++ |
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| 10:05 | drojf | ok, that was _really_ easy to test ;) and it works \o/ |
| 10:06 | kf | awesome :) |
| 10:06 | rangi | yay! |
| 10:10 | drojf | well, while that vm is running, if nobody is doing 9591 already i can try that too |
| 10:11 | kf | bug 9591 |
| 10:11 | wahanui | i heard bug 9591 was a weird one |
| 10:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item |
| 10:11 | drojf | that sounds really weird |
| 10:11 | kf | that would be cool, yes |
| 10:11 | yep it does | |
| 10:24 | drojf | does the holds queue for a library show the holds _for patrons_ of that branch or _for items_ of that branch? |
| 10:25 | kf | not sue |
| 10:25 | i think for items of that branch | |
| 10:25 | probably | |
| 10:25 | not necessarily atrons | |
| 10:27 | drojf | i see my hold neither in the list for the branch it belongs to nor in the one for the patron that placed the hold :/ |
| 10:31 | rangi | do you have the cronjob running? |
| 10:31 | that holds queue only gets updated by the cronjob | |
| 10:31 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
| 10:32 | drojf | ah! then i guess i'll have a look or just wait a little. i can see another one in the list. thanks! |
| 10:32 | good night rangi | |
| 10:33 | kf | night rangi |
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| 10:46 | drojf | is it possible that holds on items from one branch, placed by a patron from another branch, do not show up in the holds queue at all? i can see another one that i just placed with same patron/branch |
| 10:48 | kf | hm |
| 10:48 | drojf | i don't even see it when i search all branches. funny |
| 10:48 | kf | drojf: I filed a bug for some weird behaviour with item level holds |
| 10:48 | drojf | i can see it in the patron's details though |
| 10:48 | kf | could that be it? |
| 10:49 | bug 9950 | |
| 10:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9950 critical, P3, ---, liz, NEW , Some holds not showing up in holds queue - even though they are supposed to |
| 10:49 | kf | liz wanted to take a look |
| 10:50 | drojf | hm somehow related, but that is not it. i think i chose no specific item for the one that is not showing up, i chose a specific item for the one that works though. |
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| 10:50 | drojf | something is fishy |
| 10:50 | kf | liz couldn't always reprodcuce it |
| 10:50 | maybe you are closer to the truth than we were | |
| 10:51 | but I agree | |
| 10:51 | and it needs to be fixed | |
| 10:51 | drojf | yes it does |
| 10:53 | bgkriegel | kf:I have the same problem,but only with one branch. It's weird |
| 10:55 | kf | please add all your findings to the bug |
| 10:56 | so maybe we can figure out what's going wrong | |
| 10:56 | bgkriegel | ok |
| 11:06 | drojf | i signed off on bug 9591. if some QA person is bored… ;) |
| 11:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9591 blocker, P3, ---, chris, Signed Off , Set Library changes after viewing Holds Queue >> reserves item |
| 11:06 | magnuse | drojf++ |
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| 11:55 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:55 | kf | hi oleonard :) |
| 11:57 | oleonard | Všechno nejlepší k narozeninám, gaetan_B |
| 12:03 | kf | hm maybe всево хорошего с диём рождеиья |
| 12:03 | in russian... but I typed that from memory, so it's probably wrong :) | |
| 12:03 | всего хорошего с диём рождеиья | |
| 12:04 | * kf | felt inspired by oleonard |
| 12:04 | jcamins | Всего хорошего с днем рождения |
| 12:05 | :) | |
| 12:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #2 for job Koha_3.12.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 12:19 | gaetan_B | धन्यवाद oleonard, kf :) ! |
| 12:20 | kf | jcamins: but I was close! |
| 12:20 | jcamins | kf: very close! |
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| 12:21 | * drojf | whistles »ding dong the witch is dead« |
| 12:24 | drojf | happy birthday gaetan_B (all the cool languages were taken) |
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| 12:27 | oleonard | kf: I'm not able to reproduce your error with circulation sorting |
| 12:27 | kf: Do you have a moment to check something? | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | drojf: done with your thesis? Hooray! |
| 12:32 | drojf | jcamins: lol |
| 12:34 | kf | jcamins: run! |
| 12:34 | oleonard: not in the same installation I am afraid :( | |
| 12:34 | but tell me what you want me to check - maybe I already tried yesterday | |
| 12:35 | oleonard | I'm curious whether the dates you see in the table match the dates you see when you hover your mouse over each cell with a date in it |
| 12:35 | ...since the table is being sorted on the data in the title attribute. | |
| 12:36 | kf | hm good question |
| 12:36 | but that I can't check :( | |
| 12:36 | oleonard | It's not a very likely problem |
| 12:36 | kf | and I didn't yesterday |
| 12:36 | what I did was turn the pref to US format - and it worked right | |
| 12:36 | then turned it back - and it was broken again | |
| 12:37 | Will you be around this late afternoon? not sure how big our time difference is | |
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| 12:37 | kf | elsemaybe leave a note on the bug for me and I can try to test it when I get home |
| 12:37 | alohabot | Hi mib_futn9s, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 12:37 | mib_futn9s | Hello #koha |
| 12:37 | oleonard | I'll be around for 7.5 hours or so kf :) |
| 12:38 | * oleonard | prepares another revision for Bug 9463 |
| 12:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9463 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on patron sent notices page |
| 12:38 | kf | countdown is running, I see :) |
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| 12:38 | kf | hope you can reproduce the other problems |
| 12:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #2: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.12.x/2/ |
| 12:46 | Kyle M Hall: Bug 8770 - amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits | |
| 12:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8770 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , amount does not equal amountoutstanding on a fine with no payments or credits |
| 12:46 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 12:46 | Wonder why it was so fast. | |
| 12:49 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 12:49 | khall++ :) | |
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| 12:57 | oleonard | kf: Regarding Bug 9905, did the calendar for your logged-in library have any holidays? |
| 12:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9905 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on calendar page |
| 13:00 | kf | oleonard: see the screenshot :) |
| 13:00 | that's why I took it | |
| 13:00 | so you could see if there was soemthign weird about the holidays | |
| 13:01 | as I don#t enter Christmas and the like myself, I think it is sample data plus some manually entered | |
| 13:04 | oleonard | Okay, I'll try to reproduce with that data |
| 13:07 | kf | what makes me wonder... why do I have an exception but not regular closing days? |
| 13:07 | repeating I mean? maybe it got left when the repeated one was deleted? | |
| 13:14 | oleonard | kf: Did you test that bug with Bug 9887 applied? |
| 13:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9887 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on circulation page |
| 13:17 | kf | sec |
| 13:17 | oleonard: which one with which other? | |
| 13:17 | oleonard | Bug 9905 depends on Bug 9887 |
| 13:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9905 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Use DataTables on calendar page |
| 13:17 | kf | and I had separate branches for each created from master - would have been an unlikely accident |
| 13:18 | oleonard: aaah no then | |
| 13:18 | sorry I missed that | |
| 13:18 | oleonard | That's okay, I hope that solves the errors. |
| 13:18 | kf | me too |
| 13:25 | Maximum Koha Version ? | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | ? |
| 13:31 | kf | i am translating and was puzzled for a moment |
| 13:35 | khall++ | |
| 13:42 | oleonard | Hm, when did check-in stop warning that items were "lost, now found?" |
| 13:43 | kf | hm |
| 13:43 | I thought it still did, but it did also tell me that it refunded something yesterday | |
| 13:43 | there were about 4 lines | |
| 13:51 | oleonard | I guess it doesn't show if the return is also triggering a transfer |
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| 14:02 | kf | hm |
| 14:02 | could it be we are missing algorithm/checkdigits somehow? | |
| 14:04 | oleonard | Bug 9860 is caused by Bug 9397, and a better fix than the patch on 9860 would be to revert 9397 |
| 14:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9860 normal, P4, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Incorrect box heading 'Cannot check in' when a late document is returned |
| 14:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9397 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Pushed to Master , Error Messages hard to find for Visually Impaired Users (Accessibility) [Returning Items] | |
| 14:07 | kf | oleonard: hm not sure I can follow that line of thought without a diagram |
| 14:07 | * oleonard | added a comment to 9860 explaining further |
| 14:07 | kf | it's monday. |
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| 14:16 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 14:16 | can anyone help me with koha 2.2.8 upgrade to 3.0 | |
| 14:17 | kf | vfernandes: maybe check the wiki |
| 14:17 | vfernandes | i'm checking but ive got some problems when running installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl |
| 14:18 | Can't create table 'lnec.X' (errno: 150) | |
| 14:18 | i've checked the database and all tables are MyISAM when should be InnoBD | |
| 14:19 | InnoDB | |
| 14:19 | update22to30.pl gives me errors when updating the tables | |
| 14:19 | kf | vfernandes: sorry, never worked with koha pre 3.0 :( |
| 14:20 | oleonard | Check in of lost items show says "A refund has been applied to the borrowing patron's account." even if the item was not checked out. |
| 14:20 | Is a refund really being applied somewhere? | |
| 14:21 | khall? | |
| 14:21 | wahanui | i think khall is working on bug 9900 |
| 14:21 | chris_n | kf, paul_p, magnus: have you noted any problems doing labels with unimarc/normarc records? |
| 14:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9900 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Plugins should not be enabled by default |
| 14:21 | oleonard | wahanui: forget khall |
| 14:21 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot khall |
| 14:21 | chris_n | @later tell paul_p have you noted any problems doing labels w/unimarc records? |
| 14:21 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:21 | kf | oleonard: it was for me when testing yesterday |
| 14:22 | oleonard | kf: A refund was being applied somewhere even if the item was not checked out? |
| 14:22 | kf | oleonard: checked out the book, marked it overdue = lost was added to the account, then I paid that and checked the book in, and got a refund |
| 14:22 | oleonard: it can#t be checked out, as lost items are removed from the patron account | |
| 14:22 | oleonard: once they are lost, they are no longer checked out | |
| 14:23 | lol | |
| 14:23 | bug 10000 | |
| 14:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip |
| 14:23 | kf | I didn't do that on purpose... but it's really a silly bug for 10000 |
| 14:23 | oleonard | kf: But what if I mark a book lost which is not checked out? When I check it in Koha still says "A refund has been applied to the borrowing patron's account" |
| 14:23 | kf | oleonard: hmmm |
| 14:24 | edge case. I would say in that case it shoudl hopefully not go anywhere. | |
| 14:24 | ist here something in the logs indicating it actually did something? like refund the last borrower of the item? | |
| 14:24 | because that would be bad | |
| 14:25 | oleonard | Hopefully it's just bad logic in the template, I'll do more checking |
| 14:26 | chris_n | kf: do you have anyone using the label creator w/unimarc? |
| 14:27 | kf | chris_n: we are marc21 ingermany, but also not using the lables modules yet :( |
| 14:27 | chris_n | my suspicion is corrupted data, but I'm not sure |
| 14:27 | and don't have the time atm to load up a unimarc db and test :( | |
| 14:31 | vfernandes | kf I found out my problem |
| 14:32 | the script update22to30.pl tries to change the tables with "TYPE=innobd" but should be "ENGINE=innobd" | |
| 14:37 | kf | vfernandes: sounds like we shoudl fix that :) |
| 14:37 | vfernandes | the script is correct only for old mysql versions |
| 14:38 | i'm gonna try again with the script change | |
| 14:38 | kf | fingers crossed |
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| 14:40 | kf | oleonard++ for fixing 10.000 bugs... |
| 14:40 | ;) | |
| 14:40 | vfernandes | updating from 3.0 to 3.10 besides of changing the items is trivial? |
| 14:40 | * oleonard | is inordinately pleased to have been able to submit a fix bug 10000 |
| 14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip |
| 14:40 | kf | hm we did 3.1.61 or something I think without problems |
| 14:41 | but to 3.2 something | |
| 14:41 | vfernandes | i've done from 3.2 to 3.8 and 3.10 without problems |
| 14:41 | kf | oleonard: only sad, because I was hoping to make 10.000 a good one, but thought I had more time! |
| 14:41 | vfernandes | but i've never done from 3.0 |
| 14:42 | oleonard | For those who like bugs with many zeroes, Bug 4000 is still available |
| 14:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4000 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Budgets table doesn't show tree view for sub-budgets |
| 14:43 | oleonard | ...and Bug 7000, and Bug 8000, and Bug 9000 |
| 14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , show home and holding branch on staff search results |
| 14:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , Test mode for notices | |
| 14:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9000 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , misc/cronjobs/rss/rss.pl uses HTP | |
| 14:43 | kf | LOL |
| 14:45 | magnuse | chris_n: never played around with the labels, sorry |
| 14:47 | * magnuse | finds a silly typo bug an excellent choice for #10k |
| 14:47 | magnuse | especially if it is fixed fast :-) |
| 14:48 | kf | quick, we need a sign-off! |
| 14:56 | holds(s) ? :) | |
| 14:56 | found another | |
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| 15:05 | kf | yay: http://translate.koha-community.org/de/312/ |
| 15:06 | oleonard | kf++ |
| 15:06 | druthb | kf++ |
| 15:06 | kf | ... but the help file updates are not in yet |
| 15:09 | * gmcharlt | can't resist -- adds additional signoff to 10000 |
| 15:10 | magnuse | my precious holdsesss... |
| 15:10 | oleonard | :D |
| 15:10 | * druthb | worries about magnuse sometimes. |
| 15:10 | druthb | All that cold messes with the brain, imma thinking. |
| 15:10 | oleonard | magnuse is on to something... Anyone who works on holds for too long is never the same. |
| 15:10 | druthb | wahanui: druthb? |
| 15:10 | wahanui | Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
| 15:11 | magnuse | so there! |
| 15:11 | wahanui | so there is no way we can enable it I think |
| 15:11 | magnuse | i was mostly thinking about the typo kf found |
| 15:11 | * magnuse | has been spared working with holds, mostly |
| 15:15 | gmcharlt | anybody here a current admin for the Koha mailing list? |
| 15:16 | vfernandes | kf it worked :D |
| 15:20 | kf | yay! |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt: hm only know about rangi - does the wiki say something? | |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | kf: no |
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| 15:25 | kf | gmcharlt: is it broken again? |
| 15:25 | gmcharlt | nope, I just got a message stuck in moderation |
| 15:25 | kf | ah |
| 15:28 | bye all :) | |
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| 15:28 | vfernandes | bye kf |
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| 15:34 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
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| 17:13 | tcohen | no memcached support on .deb installs? |
| 17:14 | * cait | waves |
| 17:18 | cait | the thread is still not dead it seems? |
| 17:18 | magnuse | tcohen: there isn't an easy script (yet), but you can edit the configs you need by hand |
| 17:20 | tcohen | are u currentl working on packages scripts magnuse? |
| 17:21 | magnuse | tcohen: nope, but it would be cool if someone did :-) |
| 17:21 | tcohen | as a "power user" I feel they are pretty incomplete, and caused me a lot of trouble |
| 17:21 | I know how to fix the problems that arise, but error handling is almost nil | |
| 17:22 | magnuse | sure |
| 17:22 | tcohen | so I think an average user will easily need to reinstall their box once |
| 17:22 | magnuse | hm, i never had any big trouble |
| 17:22 | tcohen | several ghosts users are created on erroneus instance creation (for example) |
| 17:22 | magnuse | at least on my production server |
| 17:23 | it's a work in progress | |
| 17:23 | and currently not a whole lot of people have contributed to it | |
| 17:25 | bug 4876 | |
| 17:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4876 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , koha-* scripts are not robust |
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| 17:27 | tcohen | magnuse, is eythian that stuff's leader/maintainer |
| 17:27 | magnuse | tcohen: yup |
| 17:28 | tcohen: he is the elected Packaging Manager, to be precise | |
| 17:29 | bag | heya all |
| 17:29 | tcohen | magnuse, do u use a local MySQL in your production environment? |
| 17:29 | cait | tcohen: I think he would welcome some help with making it better |
| 17:29 | hi bag :) | |
| 17:29 | tcohen | hi cait |
| 17:29 | bag | hey cait |
| 17:29 | cait | hi tcohen :) |
| 17:31 | tcohen | magnuse: i belive they work like a charm if using a local mysql where the scripts create everything without any major issues |
| 17:34 | magnuse | tcohen: yeah, i have mysql on localhost |
| 17:34 | hiya bag | |
| 17:34 | bag | yo magnuse |
| 17:35 | tcohen | *thats* why it works for you out of the box |
| 17:36 | magnuse | ah, yeah i have not tried anything else |
| 17:36 | i think maybe catalyst (where eythian works) runs mysql on a separate server, though | |
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| 17:43 | tcohen | i think Lars bug is too general and thus unfixable |
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| 17:45 | magnuse | it's basicallt "rewrite the scripts in perl and add error checking", so yeah... |
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| 17:57 | * liw | peeks in |
| 17:57 | * magnuse | waves to liw |
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| 18:17 | alaquerre | Hi All, we are on 3.8.5 and we cannot delete public list ? Is that normal ? Even with superlibrarian permission, the "delete" list do not appear. ( A student create a dummy public list and we really need to delete it ;-) ) |
| 18:18 | cait | only the user can |
| 18:18 | or you need to change the owner | |
| 18:18 | in 3.8 that's pretty strict | |
| 18:18 | alaquerre | cait : how can we do that ? |
| 18:18 | cait | only the owner can delete lists |
| 18:18 | alaquerre | is it fixed in 3.10 or 3.12 ? |
| 18:18 | cait | who is the one that created it |
| 18:19 | i am not sure if it's possible there | |
| 18:19 | but some work has gone into lists | |
| 18:19 | including a new permission system | |
| 18:19 | it might be possible | |
| 18:19 | you can at least forbidding users to create public lists | |
| 18:20 | alaquerre | We will, but I still need to remove this list... So the best case scenario is to "hack" the user account ? |
| 18:20 | cait | hm that's one way you could do it |
| 18:20 | I think it's the only way to do it without having to go into mysql | |
| 18:20 | and do an update there | |
| 18:20 | alaquerre | go it. |
| 18:20 | thanks! | |
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| 18:47 | maximep | mysql way is always easier :p |
| 18:49 | took a while, but finally got koha working in vagrant thanks to http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Chef_and_Vagrant | |
| 18:49 | halcyonCorsair++ | |
| 18:53 | but there's a few missing perl dependencies :/ | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | When I add a record for a "3-dimensional artifact or naturally occurring object" the catalog says its type is "visual material." Is that correct? |
| 19:11 | That's on the detail page. In search results it says "Visual Material; Type of visual material: realia" | |
| 19:11 | Is "realia" a subset of "visual material?" | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
| 19:19 | oleonard | So the detail page would be more correct if it matched the results page in saying "Type: Visual Material; Type of visual material: realia" |
| 19:19 | cait | consolidating those descriptions between result list and detail page is a long term wish of me |
| 19:19 | oleonard | it is confusing that after cataloging an object the page shows an icon representing a movie :| |
| 19:19 | cait | wish...of mine? |
| 19:20 | oleonard | "of mine" is correct |
| 19:21 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "report help: I'm trying to show the guarentor but instead I seem to be showing the guarentee ... ideas on how to fix my report to make it show things right?" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/463 |
| 19:29 | bgkriegel | nengard: perhaps (g.borrowernumber=p.guarantorid) |
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| 19:32 | nengard | bgkriegel, nope, no difference |
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| 19:44 | rambutan | test |
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| 20:10 | tcohen | Bug 8773 |
| 20:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 20:13 | tcohen | can anyone sign on that patch that just comments the stuff out? |
| 20:19 | cait | tcohen: maybe ask on the mailing list? |
| 20:19 | it looks like an interesting bug | |
| 20:20 | and it might wake up someone who wants to | |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea1 | is anyone else amused that bug 10k is a typo :) |
| 20:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]how_bug.cgi?id=10 normal, P2, ---, chris, CLOSED FIXED, installer.pl doesn't check for mysql connectivity |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea1 | but 10000 |
| 20:31 | bug 1000 | |
| 20:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1000 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, CLOSED INVALID, installer: drop/suppress entries in mysql if re-launching installer script |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea1 | bug 10000 |
| 20:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=10000 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Little typo in intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/tools/letter.tt: sliip |
| 20:31 | * wizzyrea1 | has problems with 0's |
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| 20:42 | cait | morning wizzyrea :) |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | good evening cait :) |
| 21:10 | cait | eythian: ping? :) |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | not yet :) |
| 21:11 | cait | ah |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | another hour or so |
| 21:11 | cait | ugh |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | sry :( |
| 21:11 | cait | maybe I better try to catch him before he leaves home then :) |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
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| 21:29 | jcamins | Anyone used EBSCO A to Z with Koha? |
| 21:29 | Never mind, I was able to answer my question. | |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | lol ok |
| 21:30 | cait | hey jcamins |
| 21:30 | * jcamins | waves from the San Antonio airport. |
| 21:30 | wizzyrea | ! texas! |
| 21:30 | that is unexpected | |
| 21:34 | * cait | waves to jcamins :) |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | I should be able to take, say MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl and make a custom one, and put that in the syspref |
| 21:38 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:38 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "err" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/464 |
| 21:38 | wizzyrea | what am I doing wrong |
| 21:39 | * wizzyrea | feels really dense |
| 21:39 | wizzyrea | i'm not suing slimutils |
| 21:39 | using, even. | |
| 21:39 | cait | yes you are |
| 21:39 | :) | |
| 21:40 | the xsl for results is using it | |
| 21:40 | or the one for detail, did you try having all 3 files? | |
| 21:40 | wizzyrea | ok, but that is not what the syspref says. |
| 21:40 | no, because why would I do that. | |
| 21:41 | cait | why would you do what? |
| 21:41 | * cait | is a bit tired |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | have all three files |
| 21:41 | cait | ah |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | i'm trying to use an external one |
| 21:41 | cait | try copying marc21slimutils into the same place as your results one |
| 21:41 | they depend on each other | |
| 21:41 | wizzyrea | I did |
| 21:41 | cait | didn't work? |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | no, but I"ll try it again |
| 21:42 | do you have to point to the slimutils? | |
| 21:42 | in the preference? | |
| 21:42 | cait | no, I don't think so |
| 21:42 | but I haven't used the pref yet | |
| 21:43 | wizzyrea | http://img15.imageshack.us/img[…]/selection085.png |
| 21:43 | it's a URL, maybe url's don't work? | |
| 21:43 | it says they do | |
| 21:44 | cait | try only giving it the directory |
| 21:44 | hm no | |
| 21:44 | but maybe, i will try it here | |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | compilation error: file unknown-609d3d0 element html |
| 21:44 | xsltParseStylesheetProcess : document is not a stylesheet | |
| 21:44 | at /home/liz/koha-src/koha/C4/XSLT.pm line 220 | |
| 21:44 | sorry paste. :P | |
| 21:45 | probably only works with unimarc or something. | |
| 21:45 | cait | hm no |
| 21:45 | we tested wth marc21 when it went in | |
| 21:45 | was marseille 2 years ago and marijana was sitting next to me :) | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea: a path works for me: /home/katrin/Arbeitsfläche/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 21:48 | wizzyrea | with just that there? |
| 21:48 | no slimutils? | |
| 21:48 | cait | i just copied the whole xslt directory to my desktop |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | right, well we need to remove URL as an option |
| 21:49 | because it does work with a path | |
| 21:49 | cait | what did your url look like? |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | http://192.whatever it was/MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl |
| 21:50 | cait | hm |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | putting slimutils there changed it |
| 21:50 | cait | on the same machine? |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 21:50 | changed the error | |
| 21:50 | but it still failed | |
| 21:51 | cait | ah yep |
| 21:51 | doesn't work for me too | |
| 21:51 | the URL option | |
| 21:51 | same error | |
| 21:51 | marc21slimutils | |
| 21:52 | jcamins | I never tried it. |
| 21:52 | cait | give me second |
| 21:52 | I am trying something | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea: you hve to fix the path in the utils file | |
| 21:52 | i made it an URL - not it works | |
| 21:52 | wizzyrea | hm then that's not really working then is it. |
| 21:53 | cait | um the path to utils in the results file |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | def not working as intended. |
| 21:53 | cait | well you can mak it work |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | yea but that's a horrid hack. |
| 21:53 | cait | easily |
| 21:53 | hm not sure I agree | |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | the point is that you don't want to edit the native koha files |
| 21:53 | cait | i didn't |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | the whole point of the pref |
| 21:53 | jcamins | No, that's not a hack at all. |
| 21:54 | cait | I changed the path in the file on my remote server |
| 21:54 | jcamins | That is the only way to have it work logically. Your *new* file has to point to the other files it requires. |
| 21:54 | Otherwise you'd be limited to functionality already in Koha. | |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | then that needs to be documented. |
| 21:54 | cait | or you build your own result xsl file that doesn't need utils at all |
| 21:55 | jcamins | I never object to documentation, but I wouldn't expect anything different. |
| 21:55 | <xsl:import> by definition imports a file from the point of view of the loading stylesheet. | |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | I would expect that it would be made clear that it works differently if you use a URL vs a path |
| 21:55 | that more editing is necessary. | |
| 21:56 | never mind, clearly I'm the moron here. | |
| 21:56 | jcamins | But it doesn't require any more editing? |
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| 21:57 | jcamins | So much for the wireless. |
| 21:58 | You have to change the path to point to utility stylesheets regardless, don't you? | |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | It didn't break horribly when using a path instead of a URL. |
| 22:00 | sorry, never mind I'll just figure it out forget I said anything. | |
| 22:00 | jcamins | Did you copy the utility stylesheet? |
| 22:00 | As far as I understand the problem, it should've broken either way. | |
| 22:01 | So if it _worked_ with the file path, probably that indicates a problem with the way it loads the files. | |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | I ended up making it work with the utility stylesheet in the same directory with the new results stylesheet |
| 22:02 | which yes, makes sense. | |
| 22:03 | but it doesn't work with the URL. | |
| 22:03 | even if the files are in the same URL directory. But as you noted, you'd have to edit them, additionally, to point to the correct location *if you are using a URL* | |
| 22:04 | but if you are using a path, and you put the files in the same local directory | |
| 22:04 | you won't have to edit them at all. | |
| 22:04 | jcamins | It's putting the files in the same local directory that I find confusing. |
| 22:04 | I don't think that should work. | |
| 22:04 | I mean, nifty and convenient side effect, but... | |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | <xsl:import href="MARC21slimUtils.xsl"/> |
| 22:04 | it's looking for it in the same directory it loads the result from. | |
| 22:05 | which makes sense. | |
| 22:05 | but none of that is clear from the syspref. | |
| 22:05 | cait | yeah, but that's probably not working when external |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | nope. |
| 22:05 | and would never work *without additional editing* | |
| 22:05 | jcamins | Right. |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | which isn't clear. It's easy enough to figure out |
| 22:05 | (I guess.) | |
| 22:06 | jcamins | Well, first class is boarding now. I guess I'd better close up. |
| 22:06 | Bye. | |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | but it's not as simple as slapping a url in there, which is what the preference seems to indicate. |
| 22:09 | cait | wizzyrea: yeah, but who write their own xsl files... |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | not a good argument. |
| 22:09 | sorry. | |
| 22:09 | cait | heh |
| 22:09 | I am not against documentation | |
| 22:09 | just not persuaded it's broken | |
| 22:10 | wizzyrea | it isn't broken, it's just not clear what all is required |
| 22:10 | which is what's broken. | |
| 22:12 | I just think it's a bit pants is all - of course a person can figure it out. | |
| 22:13 | * wizzyrea | shuts up and goes away. |
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| 22:16 | cait | oh |
| 22:17 | * cait | leaves a cookie for wizzyrea for later |
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| 22:26 | mtj | !twadd kohails |
| 22:26 | tweetbot | OK, now watching for 'kohails' |
| 22:27 | eythian | cait: building on master fails to fail for me |
| 22:28 | will try 3.12.x, but I don't expect it to be different | |
| 22:28 | cait | well, that's good :) |
| 22:28 | eythian | does mean there's something different when you do it |
| 22:28 | what, exactly, was the error you go? | |
| 22:28 | got? | |
| 22:31 | rangi | it just built for me, if thats any consolation |
| 22:31 | dpkg-deb: building package `koha-common' in `../koha-common_3.12-1~git+20130409101805.596f7a74_all.deb'. | |
| 22:31 | I: Current time: Tue Apr 9 10:24:17 NZST 2013 | |
| 22:31 | I: pbuilder-time-stamp: 1365459857 | |
| 22:32 | cait | eythian: I have only seen it on the screen for a moment |
| 22:32 | it was running the test suite | |
| 22:32 | then t/Labels.t | |
| 22:32 | and it said only 1 out of 6 | |
| 22:32 | I guess the one was the compile one | |
| 22:33 | eythian | hmm OK |
| 22:34 | cait | we tried perl t/Labels.t and it complained about missing algorithm/checkdigits |
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| 22:35 | eythian | libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl: /usr/share/perl5/Algorithm/CheckDigits.pm |
| 22:35 | that one? | |
| 22:35 | cait | looks about right |
| 22:36 | eythian | Build-Depends: libalgorithm-checkdigits-perl, |
| 22:37 | it's definitely depended on (in fact, by virtue of the alphabet, it's the first one) | |
| 22:37 | cait | aha |
| 22:38 | so does that tell us anything? | |
| 22:38 | could it be something simple like... no internet connection and not being able to install or so? | |
| 22:38 | rangi | could be |
| 22:39 | eythian | cait: I would expect it to have failed earlier then |
| 22:39 | when setting up the build environment | |
| 22:39 | however, it is worth periodically running pbuilder update to make sure everything is current. | |
| 22:42 | cait | noted |
| 22:42 | thx for the hints :) | |
| 22:42 | hopefully it will work tomorrow | |
| 22:43 | eythian | yeah :) |
| 22:43 | if not, make sure you grab the whole error message, often it has a clue about something else shady going on. | |
| 22:44 | cait | ok :) |
| 22:47 | night all :) | |
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| 23:33 | Guest1665 | Gah |
| 23:33 | I'll remember this all eventually... | |
| 23:34 | dcook | Morning all ^_^ |
| 23:34 | wizzyrea | /msg nickserv identify password nick |
| 23:34 | ;) | |
| 23:34 | aw 2 seconds too slow | |
| 23:35 | eythian | you can tell your IRC client to do it for you |
| 23:35 | dcook | It's been something like...10-15 years since I used IRC regularly |
| 23:35 | I totally forgot about NickServ until yesterday | |
| 23:35 | wizzyrea | or you can do it with your client |
| 23:35 | or you can be clever and use a bouncer | |
| 23:36 | dcook | A bouncer would be ideal, but I haven't gotten around to really plotting that yet |
| 23:37 | But there we go. All set up in the client anyway | |
| 23:42 | eythian | wahanui: git koans is http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/04/git-koans/ |
| 23:42 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
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