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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 06:34 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:52 | * magnuse | waves, then wanders off to have breakfast, threatening to be back later |
| 06:55 | cait | heh |
| 07:04 | morning #koha | |
| 07:44 | quocuy joined #koha | |
| 08:14 | magnus joined #koha | |
| 08:15 | * magnus | waves from the laptop |
| 08:16 | rangi | hi magnus |
| 08:16 | magnus | hiya rangi |
| 08:17 | rangi: 3.10.4 should be ready for production by now, right? | |
| 08:17 | rangi | yep |
| 08:17 | i have a couple of publics running 3.10.3 | |
| 08:18 | one testing 3.10.4 now | |
| 08:18 | magnus | yay |
| 08:19 | i usually let my customers test new major versions with real data etc, but the wait has been so long now, i'll just upgrade | |
| 08:19 | and then let them test 3.12 beta if they want to | |
| 08:20 | rangi | sounds good |
| 08:24 | cait | heya magnuse :) |
| 08:24 | * cait | is creating a mess in bugzilla this morning :) |
| 08:24 | cait | please check I made no mistake! |
| 08:24 | heh wrong window :) | |
| 08:25 | magnus | :-) |
| 08:28 | cait | magnus: could I interest you in a sign off of 9980? |
| 08:28 | it's quick to test | |
| 08:29 | magnus | bug 9980 |
| 08:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 08:29 | magnus | yes, after i upgrade :-) |
| 08:34 | rangi | gah |
| 08:35 | i wish this whole numbering thing hadnt been brought up, now we are relitigating 6 monthly releases ... lets derail the entire process and not do any work, just talk about it | |
| 08:41 | magnus | gah! |
| 08:42 | * magnus | tends to think small changes often are better than big changes seldom |
| 08:44 | rangi | yeah i think big ones are much more error prone and things all get left to the end |
| 08:45 | magnus | yup |
| 08:46 | and the list of changes for a 6 months-in-the-making release is already huge | |
| 08:46 | a 12 month one would be ginormous | |
| 08:46 | rangi | i just think back to 3.0.0 and 3.2.0 |
| 08:46 | and what a nightmare they were to get released | |
| 08:46 | cait | yep |
| 08:46 | exactly what I am trying to write up right now | |
| 08:47 | to send to the list :) | |
| 08:47 | magnus | cait++ |
| 08:48 | rangi | right these all seem to work, and dont cause a problem |
| 08:48 | karam might like to do a patch for ccsr next if he wanted | |
| 08:49 | cait | and imagine the complains with yearly releases if a development misses the deadline... |
| 08:49 | magnus | ooh 7 bugs to go before we reach 10k |
| 08:49 | cait | oooh now you spotted it hehe |
| 08:49 | the race is on :) | |
| 09:11 | * magnuse | kicks off the upgrade |
| 09:14 | * cait | crosses fingers |
| 09:14 | * magnuse | too :-) |
| 09:24 | * cait | submitted bug 9994 |
| 09:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9994 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Changing 'rows per page' on saved sql reports doesn't work with runtime parameters |
| 09:25 | magnuse | ...and it's done |
| 09:26 | cait | :) |
| 09:26 | isn't that the moments where you really love Koha? | |
| 09:26 | when a major updates performs just nicely? | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | yup! |
| 09:27 | not to mention the packages! | |
| 09:27 | well, i still have to install norwegian and swedish | |
| 09:28 | which will waste a lot of time moving tiny_mce files around | |
| 09:28 | hooray for bug 9172 | |
| 09:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9172 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Move TinyMCE library outside of language-specific directory |
| 09:28 | * cait | installs arabic |
| 09:29 | cait | magnuse: ah, so there is still somthing you have to do after installing the packages currently? |
| 09:29 | magnuse | yeah, run the translate script |
| 09:30 | because i never got around to helping eythian move his i18n work on the packages forward | |
| 09:30 | cait | ah, I just ran into the problem karam talked about .. the arabic po files in master are not good |
| 09:31 | magnuse | norwegian is done |
| 09:32 | well, they will probably be updated soonish? | |
| 09:33 | cait | help files are not all in yet |
| 09:33 | we need some more sign-offs on those | |
| 09:37 | magnuse | swedish is done |
| 09:37 | the moment of truth: running my little test::www::mech script... | |
| 09:39 | gah, have to rebuild all the zebras | |
| 09:40 | * cait | imagines magnuse doing zebra puzzles |
| 09:40 | cait | *giggles* |
| 09:40 | magnuse | :-) |
| 09:42 | cait | too many legs! |
| 09:49 | magnuse | well, this is going to take some time... |
| 09:50 | legs? | |
| 09:50 | ( Holdings ( 5 | |
| 09:51 | that's not good... | |
| 09:52 | cait | zebra legs |
| 09:52 | magnuse | ah |
| 09:52 | cait | magnuse: yeah not perfect, but that happens |
| 09:52 | probably would be a bit better if holdings was translated | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | yeah |
| 09:52 | cait | i used po fiels from 3.8 |
| 09:52 | as the ones in master have some bugs | |
| 09:52 | magnuse | ah |
| 09:52 | cait | I think overall that looks pretty good |
| 09:55 | * magnuse | tries to figure out what the major enh in 3.10 were |
| 09:56 | rangi | release notes should have it |
| 09:56 | magnuse | yup, looking at that now |
| 09:56 | there is a 48 page pdf version... :-) | |
| 09:57 | rangi | ah thats right |
| 09:57 | magnuse | the new "new feature/enh" categories will be awesome, if they work out |
| 09:59 | rangi | yep |
| 09:59 | cait | i don't envy jared writing the notes :) |
| 09:59 | i mean it#s easier now with the scripts | |
| 09:59 | but we change a log. | |
| 09:59 | lot | |
| 09:59 | rangi | yep |
| 10:00 | cait | but it#s also cool we do :) |
| 10:03 | rangi | 771 patches, from 59 developers and still a month to go |
| 10:04 | cait | ugh |
| 10:04 | my koha won't switch back to english | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | rangi: awesom! |
| 10:05 | english? who needs it! | |
| 10:05 | cait | or arabic |
| 10:05 | magnuse: could you check switching languages works for you on master some time? | |
| 10:06 | ah ok | |
| 10:07 | guess my german templates were to balme | |
| 10:09 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 10:10 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 10:10 | cait | hi drojf |
| 10:10 | drojf | hi cait |
| 10:12 | did anyone else just get a random mail for some "open source crowdfunding site"? | |
| 10:12 | cait | hm |
| 10:13 | rangi | not me |
| 10:13 | cait | me neither |
| 10:15 | drojf | weird |
| 10:15 | cait | you got an exclusive random mail! |
| 10:16 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 10:16 | drojf | cait: yay, i'm special :D |
| 10:16 | hei magnuse | |
| 10:16 | cait | not going to argue |
| 10:17 | drojf | :P |
| 10:34 | What fees does <site> charge? The only fees charged by <site> are 10% of the total feature funding amount after the full funding amount has been reached. | |
| 10:34 | heh. »only« | |
| 10:36 | magnuse | hey, it could have been 90! |
| 10:36 | drojf | true! |
| 10:36 | magnuse | cait: looking at bug 9980 now |
| 10:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 10:45 | cait | thx :) |
| 10:46 | 10... how modest | |
| 10:47 | magnuse | cait: i can't seem to reproduce the problem... |
| 10:48 | i'm not logged in, but i can search just fine | |
| 10:48 | cait | it didn't work for me |
| 10:48 | check the detail page | |
| 10:49 | result was good, detail broken | |
| 10:49 | magnuse | ah |
| 10:50 | nope, that looks good too | |
| 10:50 | cait | weird |
| 10:50 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:50 | cait | it is def exploding for me when not logged in |
| 10:53 | magnuse | looks good to me |
| 10:53 | cait | log in and log out again? |
| 10:53 | patch not applied? | |
| 10:53 | magnuse | i'm on normarc, but that shouldn't matter, as far as i can tell from the bug report |
| 10:54 | yeah, did log in and out | |
| 10:54 | patch not applied | |
| 10:54 | cait | hm |
| 10:54 | master? | |
| 10:54 | wahanui | hmmm... master is the development branch of koha |
| 10:54 | magnuse | master |
| 10:54 | was there something about this only working with !xslt? | |
| 10:55 | cait | hm i have xslt |
| 10:55 | oh | |
| 10:55 | and I didn#t activate the feature | |
| 10:56 | magnuse | ah, without xslt i get the error both for search result and detail |
| 10:56 | cait | interesting |
| 10:56 | wahanui | rumour has it interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 10:56 | cait | :) |
| 10:58 | magnuse | i have: HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC = Don't emphasize |
| 10:58 | cait | i think I probably have normal display set somwwhere |
| 10:58 | magnuse | HighlightOwnItemsOnOPAC does not affect the error for me |
| 11:10 | cait: bug 9980 is signed off | |
| 11:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 11:10 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 11:10 | and special thx for the test plan :) | |
| 11:10 | magnuse | and i'm on the dashboard again - woohoo! :-) |
| 11:11 | cait | yay :) |
| 11:11 | magnuse | ooh, jonathan has the lead in the qa list! |
| 11:12 | cait | trying to influence me? |
| 11:13 | magnuse | huh, me? nooo... |
| 11:43 | WHAT? why am i seeing bug 9256 on 3.10.4?!? | |
| 11:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, magnus, RESOLVED FIXED, Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 11:58 | magnuse | ah, because i only fixed it for new instances, of course, not upgraded ones... |
| 12:47 | jcamins | Heh. One feature release every year. |
| 12:49 | That would rather cut down on the pool of prospective RMs. | |
| 12:52 | And would almost certainly result in demands for drastically reduced standards. | |
| 12:53 | drojf | how does that "LTS" thing come up all the time? |
| 12:53 | we could have a release that is supported for four years and do feature releases every four years ;) | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | drojf: we have a troll who thinks that he can get us to do more work for free if he compares us to Ubuntu. |
| 12:54 | drojf: we did that for 3.0/3.2. | |
| 12:54 | The result was that everyone forked 3.1. | |
| 12:55 | drojf | now that you say it, i think it's really mostly the same person asking for LTS |
| 12:56 | i think there were others at some point. others mostly active in the "demanding" department of koha ;) | |
| 12:56 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 13:01 | magnuse | jcamins: search is still broken for upgraded package installs. i'll report a new bug later |
| 13:01 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 13:02 | jcamins | magnuse: yeah, that will probably need a koha-upgrade-to-3.10 script. |
| 13:03 | * jcamins | wanders off as well. |
| 13:14 | manny joined #koha | |
| 13:32 | bgkriegel joined #koha | |
| 14:06 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 14:06 | now I missed the discussion? oh. | |
| 14:08 | hm | |
| 14:08 | i might reach 10.000 | |
| 14:08 | if I continue testing | |
| 14:52 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 15:19 | cait | hmm |
| 16:59 | jcamins | OMGWTFBBQ I HATE ACQUISITIONS! |
| 17:00 | cait | lol |
| 17:00 | why this time? | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Oh, creating a basketgroup is spectacularly non-obvious. |
| 17:01 | cait | ah |
| 17:01 | it's pseudoautomatic | |
| 17:01 | somehow | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | Oh, look, trying to delete a basketgroup fails under Plack+MariaDB. |
| 17:02 | Shocker! | |
| 17:05 | cait: bug 7449 worked for you? | |
| 17:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup |
| 17:07 | jcamins | Okay, it works. |
| 17:07 | Vaguely. | |
| 17:07 | magnuse | hehe |
| 17:08 | cait | jcamins: yep |
| 17:08 | it saved | |
| 17:08 | jcamins | magnuse: well, like most of acquisitions, it's broken, but that's not the fault of the patch. |
| 17:08 | cait | I tested it in marseille and again today |
| 17:08 | what is not working for you? | |
| 17:08 | I filed a patch about the brnach pull downs | |
| 17:08 | jcamins | Saving. |
| 17:08 | cait | a bu |
| 17:08 | g | |
| 17:08 | oh what doe sit do? | |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Half the time, nothing. |
| 17:09 | cait | hm interesting |
| 17:09 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 17:09 | cait | but I need more information :) |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Deleting the basket groups fixed it. |
| 17:09 | It's undoubtedly a Plack thing. | |
| 17:09 | cait | aah |
| 17:09 | that might make totally sense | |
| 17:09 | someone an idea about how to react to this? | |
| 17:09 | [Sun Apr 07 19:06:15 2013] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] You do not have permission to use atq., referer: http://localhost:8080/cgi-bin/[…]ools/scheduler.pl | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | I do not. |
| 17:10 | But I think we should prounce "atq" like "atque." | |
| 17:10 | It amuses me, and amusing the RM is always a good idea. | |
| 17:10 | cait | lol |
| 17:10 | latin speaking RM at least | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:10 | Right. | |
| 17:11 | cait | ;) |
| 17:11 | jcamins | Hey, I already reported that basketgroups were broken broken broken under Plack, didn't I? |
| 17:11 | cait | hm not sure you did |
| 17:11 | but someone who wnats to use plack for staff should fix that | |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Maybe not. |
| 17:12 | Agreed. | |
| 17:13 | * magnuse | hopes all his instances are fixed now |
| 17:13 | jcamins | cait: did you QA all the help file patches? |
| 17:14 | cait | only the signed off ones |
| 17:15 | jcamins | Okay, because they don't all have your sign off. But if you didn't QA them all, that makes sense. :) |
| 17:17 | quocuy joined #koha | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 17:17 | cait | yes? |
| 17:17 | ah, could you make koha = Koha in the last one? | |
| 17:17 | jcamins | What is the point of the "Click to add item" button in the serial receive? |
| 17:18 | Sure. | |
| 17:18 | cait | you can add an item. |
| 17:18 | for the issue | |
| 17:18 | ? | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | Right, but don't you do that by marking the issue arrived? |
| 17:18 | cait | but back to the help files - it's the plugin one at the very bottom and I forgot to git add |
| 17:19 | yes, then the form opens up automagically | |
| 17:19 | I think the link is for creating items when you don#t do that by default | |
| 17:19 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 17:19 | Well, this patch works, whether or not the duplicate functionality makes sense. | |
| 17:20 | quocuy | helo #koha |
| 17:21 | cait | i guess it's not related to that. |
| 17:21 | duplicate functionality? | |
| 17:22 | in serials? | |
| 17:22 | magnuse | bug 9996 created |
| 17:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9996 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Fix search for existing/upgraded Debian package instances |
| 17:22 | jcamins | No, I didn't expect the patch to be related to it. |
| 17:23 | I just couldn't figure out the instructions for a while. | |
| 17:23 | Because I never noticed the "Click to add item" button before. | |
| 17:26 | cait | magnuse: the race is still on? |
| 17:26 | :) | |
| 17:26 | qa'ing the z39.50 patch from marcel | |
| 17:28 | * cait | wishes really hard thatsomeone would fix git bz unhappiness about character sets |
| 17:28 | cait | UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 943: ordinal not in range(128) |
| 17:28 | jcamins | Ouch. |
| 17:32 | magnuse | ouch |
| 17:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1135 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:43 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7853' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]35086f8b1714aa1ac> / Bug 7853 - opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2a2098d157f4fe380> / Merge branch 'bug_9459' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
| 17:50 | cait | hm |
| 17:50 | * cait | is working on bug 8746 |
| 17:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8746 major, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh don't work where Record length of 106041 is larger than the MARC spec allows |
| 17:51 | jcamins | wtf? |
| 17:51 | What *possible* reason could there be for this comment: # FIXME: '$thisacct' is a string literal! | |
| 17:51 | JUST CHANGE THE COMMENT! | |
| 17:51 | cait | I wondered about that myself. |
| 17:52 | * jcamins | is using git log to find out who to complain to. |
| 17:53 | cait | lol |
| 17:53 | i think healready did that | |
| 17:53 | there is acommit message linked in the bug | |
| 17:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9381' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9dd4a94c20d0219f> / Bug 9381: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c9b419341def7c720> / Followup 2 - Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15d54b7a00869f6c7 |
| 17:53 | cait | I mean a commit |
| 17:55 | jcamins | Ah, so there is. |
| 17:55 | cait | I have to say it looked well researched on first glance |
| 17:55 | * jcamins | doesn't think Rosalie *really* wanted the fines broken. |
| 17:55 | cait | hehe |
| 17:55 | probably not | |
| 17:55 | jcamins | I had only noticed the other commit ID, which is the FIXME but not the cause. |
| 17:56 | But I'm done pushing for today. | |
| 17:57 | cait | you did lots |
| 17:57 | jcamins++ | |
| 17:57 | what exactly does this sliced zebra thing do? | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | That's the script in charge of separating the chuck from the rib, etc. |
| 18:00 | As RM, I have instructed it to reserve the tenderloin for me. :) | |
| 18:00 | cait | *rolleyes at the rm* |
| 18:01 | jcamins | I did! |
| 18:01 | I feel that it is my prerogative. | |
| 18:01 | So far no one has objected, so clearly I was right. | |
| 18:01 | cait | but you don't like meat |
| 18:02 | * jcamins | resells it at a premium because Zebra tenderloin is very uncommon in New York. |
| 18:02 | cait | that sounds more like you |
| 18:02 | magnuse was rebuilding a lot of zebras today | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | It makes economic sense. |
| 18:02 | cait | maybe has has some leftover parts for you to seel |
| 18:02 | sell | |
| 18:02 | jcamins | I should've sold him the tenderloin he was missing. |
| 18:02 | ;) | |
| 18:03 | cait | you know how it goes... there is always something left when you try to reassemble a lot of zebras |
| 18:03 | jcamins | True! |
| 18:03 | Very true. | |
| 18:03 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 18:03 | cait | it's like with ikea furniture |
| 18:18 | drojf left #koha | |
| 18:34 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 18:34 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking me about the browser!!!! yes it's the #$%$#%$#ing IE was messing my cataloguing, oh I hate miscrosoft, the evil!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:00 PM, November 05, 2009) |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1135: SUCCESS in 1 hr 11 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1135/ |
| 18:47 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 9980: Fix for anonymous searches | |
| 18:47 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8061: RTL CSS overrides (staff client) | |
| 18:47 | * D Ruth Bavousett: Bug 8061: RTL CSS overrides (OPAC) | |
| 18:47 | * Karam Qubsi: Bug 8061: Follow up - RTL CSS overrides (staff client) | |
| 18:47 | * Karam Qubsi: Bug 8061: Follow Up (Opac-Prog) - enhancement to D Ruth's patch | |
| 18:47 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7449: billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup | |
| 18:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9980 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Anonymous searches in the OPAC entirely broken |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | * Kyle M Hall: Bug 9902 - item subfields not populating |
| 18:47 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Cataloging Help for 3.12 | |
| 18:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8061 major, P1 - high, ---, karamqubsi, Pushed to Master , Koha's templates do not cope well with right-to-left languages |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Reports Help for 3.12 |
| 18:47 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Serial Help Files for 3.12 | |
| 18:47 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Suggestion Help File for 3.12 | |
| 18:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7449 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , billingplace and freedeliveryplace not saved when creating a new basketgroup |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Offline Circ Help Files for 3.12 |
| 18:47 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Circ Help Files for 3.12 | |
| 18:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9902 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , item subfields not populating |
| 18:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9850 normal, P5 - low, ---, nengard, ASSIGNED , Koha 3.12 Help Files Update | |
| 18:47 | jenkins_koha | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Add Plugin Help File for 3.12 |
| 18:47 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: Update Tools Help for 3.12 | |
| 18:48 | * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 9850: FOLLOW UP: Add Missing Plugin Help for 3.12 | |
| 18:48 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9459 [Revised] Use DataTables on hold ratios report page | |
| 18:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9459 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on hold ratios report page |
| 18:48 | jenkins_koha | * Mason James: Bug 7853 - opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if no updates are outstanding |
| 18:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7853 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , opac-maintanance.pl should correctly redirect back to opac-main.pl, if no updates are outstanding |
| 18:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1136 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 19:44 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:44 | wahanui | hmmm... Morning is a state of cat |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 19:45 | wahanui | Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:47 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:47 | jcamins | Could you please run the database update on jenkins when you get a chance? |
| 19:48 | rangi | Will do once I'm off the bus |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 19:50 | rangi | Should I suggest the next rm should put the version number scheme they want as their proposal and then ppl can decide when picking the release team |
| 19:50 | ? | |
| 19:51 | cait | you expect us to get more than 1 person applying to be rm next release? |
| 19:51 | rangi | If someone suggests a mad scheme it might happen |
| 19:52 | :) | |
| 19:52 | jcamins | I was thinking of putting an item on the agenda for the next meeting: "* Vote (NOT DISCUSS) on a proposal to change the version numbering for Koha to whole numbers starting with version 4 instead of what would otherwise be called 3.16" |
| 19:53 | rangi | Sounds perfect to me |
| 19:53 | cait | ? |
| 19:54 | rangi | Fwiw it's always been x.x.x |
| 19:54 | * cait | likes consistencs |
| 19:54 | rangi | Starting with 1.0.0 |
| 19:54 | cait | I think changing just to change it is stupid |
| 19:54 | jcamins | cait: I think discussing it is much more stupid than changing it. |
| 19:54 | ;) | |
| 19:55 | rangi | But I'd be fine with 4.x and then 5.x |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Okay, I'll revise that to... "begin incrementing the major number of Koha's version every feature release starting with the release after 3.14." |
| 19:55 | cait | hm |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Actually, that's clearer, anyway. |
| 19:55 | rangi | I mean it's not like it matters |
| 19:55 | cait | so how do we cound bugfix relases then? one level higher? |
| 19:55 | rangi | Yep |
| 19:55 | jcamins | 4.1.0 |
| 19:55 | cait | after we kept epxlaining the other scheme over andover |
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| 19:56 | cait | I still htink it's not a needed change. |
| 19:56 | jcamins | It's not. |
| 19:56 | rangi | It's marketing |
| 19:56 | jcamins | But if this sort of discussion doesn't stop on koha-devel, I am unsubscribing from the Koha mailing lists on May 22. |
| 19:56 | rangi | There I said it |
| 19:56 | jcamins | I will vote for anything that makes people focus on actually releasing a working version of Koha. |
| 19:58 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1136: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1136/ |
| 19:58 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 8200 - removing misc/translator/update.pl - deprecated file | |
| 19:58 | * Katrin Fischer: Bug 8200: Follow up - Removing unused file stats.pl | |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8200 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , /home/chris/git/koha.git in /usr/share/koha/misc/translator/update.pl |
| 19:58 | jenkins_koha | * Tomas Cohen Arazi: Bug 9812 - Forbid access to several files through the browser |
| 19:58 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Bug 9381: Add Catalan language | |
| 19:58 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language | |
| 19:58 | * Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel: Followup 2 - Bug 9381 - Add Catalan language | |
| 19:58 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9381: Increment version number | |
| 19:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9812 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to Master , Several files shouldn't be exposed or browseable through a URL |
| 19:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9381 trivial, P5 - low, ---, bgkriegel, Pushed to Master , Add Catalan language | |
| 19:58 | cait | we could say in order to vote for the version |
| 19:58 | you have to fix one of the bugs i reported | |
| 19:59 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:59 | Except that people don't actually want to vote. | |
| 19:59 | rangi | Lol |
| 19:59 | jcamins | People want to argue. |
| 20:02 | rangi | Fibonacci seq starting next week |
| 20:02 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:03 | cait | I am against doing stupid things for marketing |
| 20:04 | especially if osmeone else is using that idea already | |
| 20:04 | jcamins | So am I. |
| 20:04 | But, as I said, I am more against people spamming me. | |
| 20:04 | cait | hm |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Every single message in that thread (33!) is a patch that did not get written, signed off, or QAed. |
| 20:05 | rangi | Oh I signed off 3 for every response I wrote |
| 20:05 | To balance the ledger | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Okay, 31 missed patches. |
| 20:05 | rangi | But yeah |
| 20:06 | jcamins | I pushed about 5 patches for each response I wrote, I guess. |
| 20:06 | cait | ... I only wrote one answer! |
| 20:06 | and I qa'd more | |
| 20:06 | rangi | Hehe |
| 20:07 | Yours was a good answer | |
| 20:08 | I think we need a big diagram | |
| 20:08 | On the main site, showing releases | |
| 20:08 | cait | hm? |
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| 20:08 | alohabot | Hi mib_r9gxk8, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 20:09 | mib_r9gxk8 | i am new to Koha. Is there any librarians in London using Koha |
| 20:09 | jcamins | mib_r9gxk8: there are some, definitely. |
| 20:09 | rangi | I think so |
| 20:10 | Can someone paste the wiki page? | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | I'm looking for it now. |
| 20:10 | * rangi | will brb |
| 20:11 | jcamins | mib_r9gxk8: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_Users_Worldwide |
| 20:11 | mib_r9gxk8 | i am getting used to adding new books. But still not sure about authority records. Anyone a koha pro here? |
| 20:11 | jcamins | Ask your questions, and if people have answers, we'll give them. |
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| 20:12 | cait | morning kathryn |
| 20:12 | :) | |
| 20:13 | kathryn | hello dear cait of swift greetings! |
| 20:13 | :) | |
| 20:13 | cait | :) |
| 20:13 | * jcamins | pictures kathryn singing that to the tune of "Knight of the Woeful Countenance." |
| 20:13 | mib_r9gxk8 | Does anyone know how to add more subfields to tag 111 i.e. corporate author? |
| 20:14 | jcamins | mib_r9gxk8: what subfields do you want to add? |
| 20:14 | * kathryn | looks up what must be a familiar ditty |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Most likely you just need to click where it says "HEADING--CORPORATE NAME" |
| 20:15 | mib_r9gxk8 | i'd like to add n (conference no) |
| 20:15 | jcamins | Or, rather, HEADING--MEETING NAME. |
| 20:15 | You said 111 not 110, sorry. :) | |
| 20:16 | mib_r9gxk8 | i did but a few subtags appear but not all |
| 20:16 | cait | @marc 111 n |
| 20:16 | huginn | cait: Number of part/section/meeting A number of a meeting or a number designation for a part or section of a work. (Repeatable) |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Okay, if you did that most likely you need to add it to the framework. |
| 20:16 | mib_r9gxk8 | how do i add to the framework |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Take a look in Administration -> Authority types -> MEETI_NAME -> MARC structure |
| 20:16 | mib_r9gxk8 | thanks |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 20:17 | That shows up for me. | |
| 20:18 | And I did not modify my authority frameworks at all. | |
| 20:18 | Do you possibly mean 111 in the *bib* record? | |
| 20:18 | mib_r9gxk8 | Yes apologies I meant bib record |
| 20:19 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 20:19 | Administration -> MARC bibliographic frameworks -> (choose the framework you want) -> MARC structure | |
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| 20:24 | kathryn | Bah haha! jcamins, but yeah I would sing that |
| 20:25 | rangi | jcamins: updatedatabase run |
| 20:25 | jcamins | The scansion is a bit off, but I'm sure you could find a way to make "hello dear cait of the swift greetings work." |
| 20:27 | * Guest1341 | gives jcamins some sunday fudge. |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea1 | hm no, he makes fine fudg. |
| 20:27 | jcamins | rangi: thanks! |
| 20:27 | wizzyrea1 | um, Pi? |
| 20:27 | wahanui | i guess Pi is fine. glad i made a new card with fresh debian and koha stable before so i can still play with it ;) |
| 20:27 | * wizzyrea1 | runs gigglig |
| 20:28 | * jcamins | will take it. |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:30 | * wizzyrea1 | does not have in internet cold, just monday typing fingers. |
| 20:30 | wizzyrea1 | an* |
| 20:39 | rangi | i should set up jenkins to build 3.12.x too now eh |
| 20:42 | * magnuse | waves to #koha before going off to sleep |
| 20:43 | rangi | jcamins: http://opac.koha.workbuffer.or[…]e_dsc&format=opds |
| 20:43 | https://gitorious.org/koha/mai[…]395cb38a3992b214d | |
| 20:44 | mib_r9gxk8 | not been successful as yet in adding subfield code n to 111. Subfields c d g e appear in template but cant find n? Have checked authority Admin > authority type .. |
| 20:44 | rangi | the bit i like is the possibilities given with |
| 20:44 | http://opds-spec.org/specs/opd[…]isition_Relations | |
| 20:44 | rambutan | would it make sense to have a section on koha-community for "features that would be nice to code if they could get some funding"? |
| 20:44 | rangi | make your open access stuff easily discoverable |
| 20:45 | rambutan: we kinda have that on the wiki, but yeah tidying that up into one place might not hurt | |
| 20:45 | we'd need a volunteer to curate | |
| 20:45 | jcamins: an ebook reader like calibre or aldiko can ingest an opds feed | |
| 20:47 | jcamins | Interesting! |
| 20:47 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 20:47 | jcamins | I like it! |
| 20:48 | rangi | mib_r9gxk8: you checked the marc framework right? |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea1 | it's not hidden or set to a ludicrous hidden value in the framework |
| 20:48 | ? | |
| 20:50 | * cait | sighs |
| 20:50 | rangi | we are working on something that might help rambutan |
| 20:50 | cait | i need to pass one more... i need a bug that passes! |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | and it would work really well if people would mark things Feature instead of enhancement. |
| 20:51 | mib_r9gxk8 | It says hidden. Tab:1, Repeatable, Mandatory, hidden,. Any ideas on how to unhide |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | click into edit |
| 20:51 | and click the help | |
| 20:52 | in the upper right hand corner | |
| 20:52 | then, click "more constraints" | |
| 20:52 | and where it says "hidden" | |
| 20:52 | rambutan | we are? |
| 20:52 | wizzyrea | put in the appropriate value. |
| 20:52 | we could do some kind of CSS in our bugzilla that makes the enhancements not grey, but some other color. | |
| 20:52 | whose bugzilla was I looking at that was super cheerful. | |
| 20:53 | was it mahara maybe? | |
| 20:54 | cait | they have those super cute graphics too |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | cait: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9894 |
| 20:55 | huginn | 04Bug 9894: normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , 'hidden' value is hard to understand in frameworks |
| 20:55 | cait | that's a bit big for tonight |
| 20:55 | :) | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | is it? it's only JS |
| 20:56 | cait | but I test things you know :) |
| 20:56 | and it's almost 11 | |
| 20:56 | we are 10 hours apart now | |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | ok yea, it might be heavy for 11 |
| 20:57 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:57 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 2.1°C (10:55 PM CEST on April 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:57 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
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| 20:57 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 AM NZST on April 08, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | this was the one http://img827.imageshack.us/im[…]/selection083.png |
| 20:57 | and it's all red and stuff. | |
| 20:58 | but that worm is super cute. | |
| 20:58 | in his little red shir.t | |
| 20:58 | shirt* | |
| 21:06 | * cait | fails another :( |
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| 21:11 | * cait | waves |
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| 21:18 | cait | ok |
| 21:18 | I am tired | |
| 21:18 | but those dates are not sorted correctly, are they? | |
| 21:19 | rangi | no |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | yea no. |
| 21:19 | cait | meh |
| 21:19 | * cait | fails another |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | which bug? |
| 21:20 | cait | the third datatables bug in a row :( |
| 21:20 | rangi | thats one i tested |
| 21:20 | you have flushed all your caches eh | |
| 21:20 | cait | i can try that again |
| 21:20 | rangi | you arent using a mismatch of js ? |
| 21:20 | cait | mismatch? |
| 21:20 | rangi | i thought i had it working |
| 21:20 | half new half old | |
| 21:21 | cait | hm still the same |
| 21:21 | wahanui | the same is true in the U.S. It's more propaganda than anything approaching the truth. |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | forget the same |
| 21:21 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot same |
| 21:21 | cait | no errors |
| 21:21 | rangi | ah well, im sure owen will figure it out |
| 21:21 | cait | probably |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | cait: you are using which date format? |
| 21:21 | out of curiosity | |
| 21:21 | cait | dd-mm-yyyy |
| 21:22 | there is no 17th month ;) | |
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| 21:22 | alohabot | Hi mib_ng0t0x, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 21:22 | * wizzyrea | wonders if the US dates are working ok |
| 21:22 | cait | probably. |
| 21:22 | but I can check | |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | naw |
| 21:22 | that's kind of beyond your pay grade. :) | |
| 21:22 | it doesn't work with proper dates | |
| 21:22 | it's bustid. | |
| 21:23 | cait | yep it does work with us |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | or you are beyond testing that |
| 21:23 | is what I meant. | |
| 21:23 | rangi | maybe i had us on or somthing |
| 21:23 | when i tested | |
| 21:24 | its possible | |
| 21:24 | or just didnt have enough dates to spot it | |
| 21:24 | wizzyrea | that's the default way *shrug* it'd be easy to miss. |
| 21:24 | mib_ng0t0x | Please can someone tell me how to suppress the 100 field when the main entry is not the author but the title is. The book has an editor. thanks |
| 21:25 | rangi | mib_ng0t0x: youve found the manual eh? |
| 21:25 | manual? | |
| 21:25 | wahanui | manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 21:29 | mib_ng0t0x | i have checked under Author create authorities etc but each time I save record it says 100 is mandatory field. |
| 21:29 | rangi | mib_ng0t0x: its the frameworks again |
| 21:29 | you need to edit your marc framework to make it not mandatory | |
| 21:36 | mib_ng0t0x | I have selected no to repeatable and no to mandatory in framework. Still cant save because tag 100 sub a field not filled. |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | you have to edit the subfield |
| 21:37 | to make it not mandatory | |
| 21:37 | or you have to turn on "biblioaddsauthority" | |
| 21:37 | or edit the subfield to make it not authority controlled | |
| 21:37 | it's under "more constraints" | |
| 21:38 | for subfield a | |
| 21:46 | mib_ng0t0x | You have all been great. Many thanks I am getting used to the idea now of checking the framework. |
| 21:47 | Please can you give me another tip so that I can display the subtitle in normal view. I can see the complete title in marc view though. | |
| 21:49 | sorry to trouble you again. I am not able to see the subtitle tag 100 in the normal view. | |
| 22:02 | eythian | hi all |
| 22:02 | * cait | waves |
| 22:02 | cait | and good night :) |
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| 22:04 | wizzyrea | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9983 < this thing is output, and should be configurable as such... anyone want to fight about it? :) |
| 22:04 | huginn | 04Bug 9983: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , printable fines page should include name/barcode |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | or tell me I'm wrong |
| 22:05 | because... that would be ok | |
| 22:05 | rangi | no you are right |
| 22:07 | wizzyrea | so slips/notices, in my opinion |
| 22:07 | if you print it, and a library might want to control what's on the thing they hand to the patron | |
| 22:07 | it should be in there | |
| 22:08 | print it, email it | |
| 22:08 | phone call it | |
| 22:08 | SMS it | |
| 22:08 | * wizzyrea | tries to fit it into the field of dreams thing, can't |
| 22:12 | eythian | Work It Make It Do It |
| 22:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.12.x |
| 22:48 | * eythian | notes the main koha list seems to still be down (or suspiciously quiet) |
| 22:49 | rangi | yeah i pinged sijobl but he doesnt seem to be around |
| 22:49 | ill drop him an email | |
| 22:50 | eythian | @seen sijobl |
| 22:50 | huginn | eythian: sijobl was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 4 days, 0 hours, 21 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <sijobl> as you do |
| 22:51 | rangi | email away |
| 22:51 | eythian | of course, depending on the nature of the problem, he may not get it :) |
| 22:52 | rangi | heh i think they run a couple of mailservers |
| 22:52 | one specifically for the lists, which is a good idea, thats where the spammers hit | |
| 22:52 | well they used to anyway | |
| 22:52 | eythian | yeah |
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| 22:58 | mib_kyit98 | '/nick paul.a' |
| 23:00 | CanuckPaul | Anyone here? |
| 23:10 | jcamins | eythian++ |
| 23:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.12.x build #1: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.12.x/1/ |
| 23:20 | CanuckPaul | Good evening|morning -- never used IRC before |
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