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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | rangi | i watched the 3rd and 4th place play off with amy buckland after the karaoke evening |
| 00:00 | it was a stupidly tense game | |
| 00:00 | the final | |
| 00:01 | dcook | Cheers for staying awake |
| 00:02 | I tried to go to one of the play off games with an Irish friend of mine, but the tvs weren't working at the pub he wound up at and we were out in the boonies at that stage :/ | |
| 00:02 | rangi | dcook: http://vimeo.com/31010288 |
| 00:03 | watch the final few mins here, through the eyes of the fans | |
| 00:03 | it sums it up | |
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| 00:07 | dcook | Oh snap. That's an awesome clip, rangi |
| 00:07 | rangi | yeah just put together by an amateur film maker it really captured the moment |
| 00:08 | dcook | He did a good job in making it look pretty professional overall. Definitely conveyed a lot of emotion :) |
| 00:08 | rangi | yep |
| 00:12 | drojf | is there just one known koha library in russia? |
| 00:12 | rangi | the other cool amateur one i remember is this one http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-st[…]n-life-of-its-own |
| 00:12 | hmm afaik yes drojf | |
| 00:14 | drojf | hm. i dont know why i find that strange, but i do |
| 00:14 | rangi | im sure there are more |
| 00:15 | drojf | translation 35% |
| 00:16 | dcook | I think the Canada stats are off too, but it's due to that whole self-reporting thing |
| 00:17 | rangi | yep |
| 00:17 | dcook | I know Evergreen is really big in British Columbia, but I think the rest of the country would really profit from Koha, especially in the prairies. |
| 00:17 | And that Atlantic provinces | |
| 00:18 | And the sub-Arctic territories, although their internet connection is pretty spotty... | |
| 00:18 | Could still work on a LAN though | |
| 00:18 | If libraries were setting it up for themselves and just using it in house | |
| 00:18 | drojf | do local wifi |
| 00:18 | dcook | They have dial up still |
| 00:18 | rangi | i suspect snow messes with up pretty bad |
| 00:18 | dcook | Especially the further you get from the "bigger" cities |
| 00:19 | rangi | wifi even |
| 00:19 | i know going over water does | |
| 00:19 | drojf | "found 13 items where the country is Russia" ok. i doubt there are 13 libraries in russia, so there is probably more koha too ;) |
| 00:19 | dcook | Hmm. I don't know if I've ever experienced that |
| 00:20 | rangi | when i was at citylink we were playing with wifi across the harbour |
| 00:21 | drojf | and that does not work? |
| 00:22 | rangi | it does but the distance you can go is shorter than across land |
| 00:22 | drojf | interesting |
| 00:22 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 00:22 | rangi | at the same power |
| 00:25 | jcamins_away | Firefox says that client-side XSLT isn't safe. |
| 00:25 | WTF is the point of having that feature if you're not supposed to use it? | |
| 00:28 | * dcook | wonders the same thing about Javascript and accessibility guidelines on occasion |
| 00:29 | dcook | Err usability guidelines |
| 00:29 | Accessibility guidelines are good :) | |
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| 01:30 | cjh | yay netsplits. |
| 01:31 | wizzyrea | graciousl |
| 01:55 | mtj | yay friday! -> http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/[…]-flatulence-is-ok |
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| 02:16 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:17 | cjh | \o |
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| 02:23 | druthb | workin' on string freezes now! :) :D |
| 02:41 | mtj | im building some deb packages :p |
| 02:42 | fingers crossed…. | |
| 02:43 | rangi | thanks druthb |
| 02:43 | druthb | now that I've learned *how*, it's gotten easier. |
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| 02:44 | mtj | yes, and thanks druthb++ :) |
| 02:44 | druthb | :) |
| 02:51 | translators++ Those are the people who really make stuff happen; I'm just the server-ops wench. | |
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| 04:51 | * druthb | dances around happily. Pootle is all updated for string freeze. :) |
| 04:52 | dcook | druthb++ |
| 04:53 | druthb | :) thanx. |
| 05:09 | dcook | np :) |
| 05:46 | Hmmm, 14 minutes left in the working day | |
| 05:46 | I'm sure that's enough time to sign off some patch... | |
| 05:46 | * dcook | looks to see what Owen has been up to |
| 06:05 | dcook | Hmm... |
| 06:08 | Trying to test bug 8079 but can't get fines to generate... | |
| 06:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , opac not showing fines - says 'no' |
| 06:09 | dcook | Mmm, bad sys pref perhaps |
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| 06:09 | dcook | Well...not bad |
| 06:09 | hola cait | |
| 06:09 | cait | hi dcook :) |
| 06:14 | dcook | how goes it, cait? |
| 06:14 | cait | the day just started, we will see :) |
| 06:14 | dcook | Hehe. Time differences are fun |
| 06:14 | 5:14pm Friday here | |
| 06:14 | I think... | |
| 06:14 | Yes, definitely Friday, lol | |
| 06:15 | cait | lol |
| 06:15 | so why are you not off for the weekend? ;) | |
| 06:15 | it's 7:15 am here -so I stil have to go to work :) | |
| 06:18 | dcook | I forgot that you're an early riser. I don't know how you do it :p |
| 06:18 | As for me, I said that I would sign off at least one patch today, so I'm about to do just that | |
| 06:19 | cait | :) |
| 06:19 | dcook | Plus, laundry and dishes await me at home. Well, and beer along the way...but that's not much of a chore |
| 06:19 | cait | an awesome goal :) |
| 06:19 | dcook | I'm trying :) |
| 06:23 | * druthb | waves to her beste freundin |
| 06:50 | dcook | There we go, khall_away :). Bug 8079 |
| 06:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8079 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , opac not showing fines - says 'no' |
| 06:50 | dcook | Not a big one, but one nonetheless |
| 07:10 | cait | :) |
| 07:10 | dcook++ | |
| 07:14 | dcook | Thanks, cait :) |
| 07:15 | * dcook | is determined to make a conscious effort to step up the signing off |
| 07:15 | dcook | bgkriegel++ |
| 07:15 | He's been a machine lately. Every time I go to do a sign off, he's already gotten there! ;) | |
| 07:16 | cait | yeah :) |
| 07:16 | glad we have the 2 of you | |
| 07:16 | :) | |
| 07:16 | and others of course | |
| 07:17 | dcook | Personally, I'm trying to recruit more of my former classmates |
| 07:18 | And existing members of SLAIS (the library school in Vancouver) | |
| 07:18 | There are a lot of people keen to get more involved in library technology, but they're just not sure where to start | |
| 07:19 | cait | :) |
| 07:19 | that's quite cool | |
| 07:28 | alex_a_ | bonjour tout le monde |
| 07:32 | dcook | bonjour, alex_a- |
| 07:32 | alex_a_ | |
| 07:32 | Ca va? | |
| 07:33 | alex_a | dcook: ca va merci :) |
| 07:34 | dcook | :) |
| 07:36 | Everyone arrives just as I'm about to leave :p. Darned southern hemisphere.. | |
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| 07:41 | dcook | hey wizzyrea |
| 07:41 | wahanui | wizzyrea is, like, a Cylon, and they all have plans |
| 07:42 | dcook | And spines that glow but only for the first season or two... |
| 07:42 | * magnuse | waves |
| 07:45 | * cait | waves |
| 07:45 | cait | bbl :) |
| 07:45 | dcook | Ta, cait :) |
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| 07:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:48 | dcook | allo, reiveune |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (8:30 AM CET on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:48 | magnuse | @wunder konstanz |
| 07:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.6°C (8:45 AM CET on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:48 | magnuse | i loose |
| 07:48 | reiveune | lol |
| 07:48 | magnuse | :-) |
| 07:49 | reiveune | hi dcook, magnuse :) |
| 07:50 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune, dcook |
| 07:52 | dcook | bonjour, magnuse :) |
| 07:53 | How do you say hello in Norwegian? | |
| 07:53 | Interested parties want to know :p | |
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| 07:56 | magnuse | kia ora jransom |
| 07:56 | dcook: "hei" is the simplest form | |
| 07:56 | "god dag" is another | |
| 07:57 | dcook | Equivalent of hi/hey and good day? |
| 07:57 | magnuse | hm, i guess "hei" would be the equivalent of hello |
| 07:57 | god dag = good day | |
| 07:58 | jransom | hi Magnus |
| 07:58 | hi all | |
| 07:58 | magnuse | @wunder levin, nz |
| 07:58 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in LEVIN, Levin, New Zealand is 19.1°C (8:58 PM NZDT on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:59 | magnuse | sounds nice! |
| 07:59 | dcook | hi jransom |
| 07:59 | @wunder syndey, australia | |
| 07:59 | huginn | dcook: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 07:59 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 07:59 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 24.0°C (6:30 PM EST on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:59 | dcook | Cold beer time... |
| 07:59 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:59 | what's the time in sydney? | |
| 08:00 | i think it's 9pm in levin | |
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| 08:00 | magnuse | jransom: so will you get yourself over to kapiti this summer? |
| 08:00 | jransom | probably not |
| 08:01 | it is glorious weather - been a great summer | |
| 08:01 | dcook | 7pm. I really need to leave work.. |
| 08:01 | jransom | 9pm here |
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| 08:01 | jransom | had a bbq for tea tonight |
| 08:01 | dcook: do you work with Calyx? | |
| 08:02 | dcook | Nope. Prosentient Systems. |
| 08:02 | jransom | ah - well there you go |
| 08:02 | dcook | O_o |
| 08:02 | jransom | I saw Sydney - thought Calyx |
| 08:02 | i met somene from prosentinet somewhere - kohacon NZ maybe | |
| 08:02 | probably actually ... | |
| 08:03 | dcook | Hmm, maybe. Probably. |
| 08:03 | I only arrived in January 2012 | |
| 08:03 | jransom | clearly wasnt you then :) |
| 08:03 | dcook | Nope :) |
| 08:03 | jransom | oh cool - well welcome to Koha |
| 08:03 | dcook | Thanks. I've enjoyed the past year here. Hope to make it many more |
| 08:03 | Going to Reno? | |
| 08:03 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:04 | jransom | No - I wont be. I am planning to send my new Tech services chickie JD (Joanne Dillon) |
| 08:05 | dcook | Hopefully I'll be the one being sent as well |
| 08:05 | jransom | she is working on Koha and while I'm not happy about missing out - in all conscience I have to send JD. Would be much more useful to Koha than having me there. |
| 08:05 | dcook | I think that's the plan here as well |
| 08:05 | * magnuse | hopes to make it to reno but will miss seeing jransom there |
| 08:06 | dcook | Which organization are you with, jransom? |
| 08:06 | jransom | i will try and get to the one after |
| 08:06 | Horowhenua library trust | |
| 08:06 | magnuse | dcook: jransom is the boss at the library that started koha :-) |
| 08:06 | jransom | i just talk and schmooze - JD actually does work on Koha :) |
| 08:07 | dcook | hehehe |
| 08:07 | I imagine that I knew that at one point | |
| 08:07 | Well, thank you for starting it! | |
| 08:07 | jransom | You are welcome :) |
| 08:07 | dcook | It must be amazing to see how it's turned out, or rather how it is turning out |
| 08:08 | jransom | (basking in glory becuase Chris and Paul and Rosalie and Racgel and about a billion other people aren't here to claim credit) |
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| 08:08 | jransom | It is amazing to see Koha |
| 08:09 | loved loved loved KohaCon in Mumabi | |
| 08:09 | seeing Koha so strong around the world is an amzing thing | |
| 08:10 | dcook | I've heard that Koha is pretty strong in India. I'm originally from Canada, so I'm trying to stir up interest back home |
| 08:10 | magnuse | and groing stronger by the day :-) |
| 08:10 | dcook | I think a lot of people would profit from it |
| 08:10 | * magnuse | thinks so too |
| 08:10 | dcook | And there are tons of library and information studies folk wanting to get more involved in library technology and community...it's a perfect fit |
| 08:10 | jransom | i love that the community is so strong and so supportive and works so well together |
| 08:11 | its a perfect fit for libraries - who share and give stuff away :) | |
| 08:11 | magnuse | amen :-) |
| 08:11 | dcook | D'accord ^_^ |
| 08:12 | It's great being a part of it | |
| 08:12 | Before I ever actually starting working on Koha, I saw Chris give a talk at Access 2011 in Vancouver | |
| 08:12 | I had already been hired by Prosentient to work on Koha, but I didn't know a thing about Koha per se. I had worked with ILSs for years, but only proprietary ones | |
| 08:13 | I only started seriously programming in late 2011, and now my world has been transformed and I want to transform the world of others :D | |
| 08:13 | jransom | well its totally different i imagine |
| 08:13 | magnuse | dcook: sounds like you are having a great time :-) |
| 08:14 | dcook | That's the diplomatic way to put it, jransom ;) |
| 08:14 | magnuse | did i mention i hope i can make it to reno? |
| 08:14 | dcook | If only I could find the time to do more sign offs, magnuse |
| 08:14 | And maybe fix the French manuals... | |
| 08:14 | And help out on the English ones... | |
| 08:14 | magnuse | yeah, time for signoffs would be nice |
| 08:14 | dcook | It would be great to see you at reno, magnuse! |
| 08:15 | magnuse | i'm currently doing mostly non-koha things to make ends meet, hopefully there will be enough koha business so i can work mostly on koha in the not too distant future... |
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| 08:16 | jransom | I hope you can get to reno too but (on the bright side) if you miss it you might get to the next one which I might get to as well! |
| 08:16 | magnuse | fingers crossed! |
| 08:17 | dcook | salut, gaetan_B! |
| 08:17 | Sorry to hear that you're not getting to do as much Koha work as you'd li ke, magnuse :/ | |
| 08:17 | magnuse | that reminds me we might want to start to think about when we should start to think about calling for bidders for kohacon14 |
| 08:17 | dcook: it's not too bad, i get to work on some nice projects, but koha is where my heart is... | |
| 08:17 | jransom | I hoping south america - argentina maybe |
| 08:18 | magnuse | ooh, that would be excellent |
| 08:18 | jransom | koha community loves magnus so dont you go and seduced into another project |
| 08:19 | * dcook | agrees about south america |
| 08:20 | dcook | magnuse: I'm often intrigued by some of the other projects I work on, but Koha is certainly where my heart is as well :) |
| 08:21 | magnuse | jransom: not to worry, i really <3 koha! ;-) |
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| 08:27 | jransom | good evening @francharb |
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| 08:55 | kf | morning #koha |
| 08:56 | magnuse | kia ora kf |
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| 10:17 | kf | marcelr++ :) |
| 10:21 | * kf | is translating ... |
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| 11:15 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 11:19 | kf | hi drojf |
| 11:19 | magnuse | moin drojf |
| 11:19 | kf | drojf: go on inetbib if you are interested in the big discussion about amazon covers in library catalogs... |
| 11:19 | drojf | hi kf and magnuse |
| 11:19 | kf: i have been following that for days ;) | |
| 11:23 | do we have any severe problems in 3.10? with 3.10.3 coming i would start considering an upgrade otherwise | |
| 11:32 | magnuse | there's bug 9256 |
| 11:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9256 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Search is broken for 3.10 package-installs when marcflavour != marc21 |
| 11:32 | magnuse | or want to have multiple marc dialects on the same server |
| 11:33 | drojf | luckily that does not apply to us, but that is really bad |
| 11:36 | kf | yeah |
| 11:36 | fines don't display in notices | |
| 11:36 | there might be more, not sure | |
| 11:36 | we just began testing | |
| 11:36 | drojf | we have no fines \o/ that saves a lot of trouble i think ;) |
| 11:37 | kf | probably |
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| 11:43 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 11:44 | koha 3.12 translations.... I have koha 3.10 fully translated for portuguese | |
| 11:44 | but 3.12 is only 37% | |
| 11:44 | shouldn't 3.12 use 3.10 translations as base? | |
| 11:45 | I don't want to translate again 60000 words | |
| 11:49 | drojf | i think i have heard that one before |
| 11:50 | vfernandes | if 3.10 are fully translated... 3.12 should use 3.10 files plus the new or changed strings |
| 11:50 | in this way it too hard to mantain translations | |
| 11:51 | magnuse | maintaining translations *is* hard, sadly... |
| 11:52 | drojf | i think kf said that a lot of it is help files this time |
| 11:55 | maybe we fork it and only develop in our lown anguages. krautkoha for the germans, trollkoha for the norwegians… | |
| 11:55 | languages even | |
| 11:56 | vfernandes | for each new version he have to "rebuild" the translations and that makes no sense |
| 11:56 | drojf | but given how much % of koha is developed by germans, that will probably be the same as just not upgrade anymore ever |
| 11:57 | magnuse | drojf: lol |
| 11:58 | drojf | vfernandes: i dont think we start from 0 again. its just a lot of new stuff |
| 11:59 | vfernandes | 37% for me is like starting from 0 |
| 11:59 | drojf | we had a lot of fun when the templates were switched to template::toolkit too |
| 12:00 | magnuse | drojf: don't remind us... |
| 12:00 | vfernandes | I'm thinking about creating a routine to check which string are new or changed in koha 3.12 file from koha 3.10, adding them to koha 3.10 files and then replace the files in the pootle |
| 12:01 | magnuse | bug 9161 |
| 12:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9161 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Translate only specific files |
| 12:02 | magnuse | bug 7934 |
| 12:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7934 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po file for help pages |
| 12:02 | magnuse | bug 7939 |
| 12:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7939 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Separate po files for different MARC dialects |
| 12:03 | magnuse | those bugs would make translating easier, i think |
| 12:03 | vfernandes | those are good improvements but the problem maintains but divided by different files |
| 12:05 | drojf | seperate the help stuff would be really nice |
| 12:05 | have a running, translated koha, do bonus stuff whenever | |
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| 12:19 | magnuse | kia ora Viktor |
| 12:27 | drojf | swedish people don't talk much :P |
| 12:27 | magnuse | nah, quite, brooding types us northerners... |
| 12:29 | drojf | heh |
| 12:32 | kf | drojf: there is a bug ... you could work on it ;) |
| 12:33 | drojf | kf: unfortunately i should work on other things |
| 12:33 | kf | vfernandes: I think your % is really low |
| 12:34 | vfernandes: you could do a simple test - get your complete 3.10 files | |
| 12:34 | hm he is no longer here eh? | |
| 12:34 | because it's not correct that we have to rebuild really, only when people change things... but maybe not the complete file was used to update his po files... who knows. | |
| 12:36 | drojf | i thought we had something similar, but it's 75% for german |
| 12:37 | so 37% does not really make sense | |
| 12:37 | kf | nope |
| 12:37 | but he was gone too fast | |
| 12:37 | I think it might be a quirk with file paths/update scripts or something | |
| 12:37 | Adolescent = Heranwachsende? hm. | |
| 12:39 | drojf | what makes that differen form jugendliche? |
| 12:39 | different | |
| 12:39 | kf | there are lots of subgroups |
| 12:39 | not sure, but translations might have come from marc21 standard | |
| 12:39 | I kept it for now | |
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| 12:39 | drojf | of course, marcs fault |
| 12:39 | kf | when we finally catch that guy... |
| 12:40 | drojf | lol |
| 12:41 | kf | drojf: 3.8 is done |
| 12:41 | drojf | yay |
| 12:41 | how much was that? | |
| 12:41 | 10 words? :) | |
| 12:41 | kf | not a lot :) |
| 12:41 | bit more | |
| 12:41 | bit less than 200 I think | |
| 12:41 | drojf | oh that is more than i thought |
| 12:42 | you should take license fees from people using koha in german ;) | |
| 12:42 | kf | oh yes, good plan |
| 12:42 | drojf | or krautsource it |
| 12:45 | kf | Vorpubertierende? really? |
| 12:47 | drojf | hahaha i thought of that, but did not say it |
| 12:47 | kf | it's in there |
| 12:47 | drojf | omg |
| 12:47 | kf | it's a nother grup |
| 12:47 | group | |
| 12:47 | drojf | :D |
| 12:47 | kf | I don't think I would like to use a search option that is named like that to find me books... |
| 12:47 | drojf | no. lol |
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| 12:50 | kf | hi Viktor :) |
| 12:50 | Viktor | Hi! |
| 12:51 | kf | how's things? :) |
| 12:51 | Viktor | Quite good. |
| 12:51 | kf | drojf: 3.10 is now done too - no guarantees |
| 12:51 | Viktor | Things are coming along quite nicely. How are you? kf |
| 12:51 | kf | quite good too :) lots of interesting projects, lots of work, but good |
| 12:52 | Viktor | Nice to hear kf :) |
| 12:52 | kf | @later tell druthb please fix the permissions once more? it seems to reoccur on every update of translations :( http://translate.koha-communit[…]de/310/export/zip |
| 12:52 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:52 | kf | drojf: can't download the files - so can#t test for errors :( |
| 12:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9608' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]51ef9ed26ea6dfecb> / Bug 9608 - White background on header on check in <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]58b8ea3f6b31cab5b> / Merge branch 'bug_7608' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff;h=9d5bdaff0350 |
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| 13:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1049 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:13 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:13 | drojf | hi oleonard |
| 13:14 | kf | hi oleonard |
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| 13:17 | * magnuse | waves at Viktor |
| 13:21 | magnuse | gah, he's ignoring me |
| 13:24 | kf | he talked to me :P |
| 13:25 | magnuse | yeah, yeah... ;-) |
| 13:33 | drojf | maybe its time for viktor to switch to a real irc client ;) |
| 13:36 | magnuse | i think it has been suggested to him :-) |
| 13:41 | * oleonard | takes up a collection to help the poor souls without real irc clients |
| 13:43 | * drojf | throws a real irc client into the hat |
| 13:44 | * jcamins_away | offers up a copy of telnet. |
| 13:44 | drojf | lol |
| 13:49 | jcamins_away | I don't understand how someone on my QA team could successfully QA a patch which depends on another patch to function. |
| 13:49 | (without looking at the other patch) | |
| 13:52 | Yay! 9420 looks great! | |
| 13:52 | * oleonard | Bootstraps all! the! things! |
| 13:53 | jcamins_away | Just testing the package build. |
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| 13:57 | oleonard | Too late! I Bootstrapped all the things! |
| 13:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9460' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78e49d0039306b94b> / Bug 9460 - Use DataTables on transfers to receive report page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b6c3431797637db93> / Merge branch 'bug_9461' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]t;a=commitdiff;h= |
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| 14:05 | kf | oleonard: yay!! |
| 14:05 | magnuse | bug 9420 |
| 14:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Work on Bootstrap for Koha |
| 14:05 | magnuse | oleonard++ |
| 14:05 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 14:05 | * kf | suggests you start with the new borrower button and the detail page :P |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | already has a patch for that! |
| 14:06 | oleonard | In my pocket. |
| 14:06 | kf | in your pocket? :) |
| 14:07 | :) | |
| 14:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1049: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1049/ |
| 14:08 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7253: fast cataloging not always checking out | |
| 14:08 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 7253: followup : manage toolbar for fastcataloging | |
| 14:08 | * Colin Campbell: Bug 9454: Use placeholders when adding basket | |
| 14:08 | * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 7608: Manual history should not always be enabled | |
| 14:08 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9608 - White background on header on check in | |
| 14:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7253 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , fast cataloging not always checking out |
| 14:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9454 major, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , NewBasket does not use placeholders in sql | |
| 14:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7608 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Manual history is always 'enabled' | |
| 14:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9608 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , white background on header on check in | |
| 14:08 | jcamins_away | Lots of nice UI improvements! |
| 14:08 | kf | yeah :) |
| 14:09 | and we all know... people like UI improvements :) | |
| 14:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1050 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:09 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9420' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]39d015e789f249906> / Bug 9420 [Revised] Work on Bootstrap for Koha: Circ toolbar <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1780e65020ec9c011> / Bug 9420 [Revised] Work on Bootstrap for Koha <http://git.koha-community.org/[…].git;a=commitdiff |
| 14:09 | kf | oh and happy jenkins |
| 14:13 | oleonard | It's Christmas morning for me and jcamins_away is Santa! |
| 14:15 | jcamins_away | I think 8913 is going to have to wait a bit. |
| 14:16 | It's kind of large. | |
| 14:16 | And missing a signoff. | |
| 14:16 | I see in the history that it was signed off twice, but I have to figure out which signoff belongs there. | |
| 14:16 | * jcamins_away | heads into the city. |
| 14:17 | oleonard | jcamins_away: I probably jettisoned one by mistake in a rebase |
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| 14:22 | kf | bug 8913 |
| 14:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8913 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Improve acquisitions navigation |
| 14:23 | kf | hm or might have been me? |
| 14:23 | magnuse | Viktor: it has been suggested that you get yourself a proper irc client ;-) |
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| 14:35 | alaquerre | Hi all, is there a way to hide biblio that dont have any items in opac search ? |
| 14:36 | kf | i don't think you can do it automagically hm. |
| 14:36 | opachiddenitems would hide it if all items were hidden... but if there are no items | |
| 14:36 | you may have to use opacsuppression instead and set that manually | |
| 14:36 | alaquerre | We want to keep the "empty" biblio for historical reason, but dont want our user to see them... |
| 14:37 | drojf | opacsuppression sounds like a reasonable way to do that then |
| 14:37 | alaquerre | let me read a bit about it... never use it. |
| 14:39 | We need to put "942$n" =1 | |
| 14:39 | Interresting | |
| 14:39 | Will try that! | |
| 14:39 | We need a full rebuild of Zebra to see the change ? | |
| 14:41 | I'll ask another question on a completly different topic. | |
| 14:41 | magnuse | alaquerre: that should not be necessary, i think |
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| 14:43 | alaquerre | On Opac-Search, does it occur ofthen that |
| 14:43 | Opac Searc : Do you have a problem of "0 result" on a query and when you relaunch the searc, everything works with X results? Our user have this problem often (couple of time each day) | |
| 14:45 | kf | hm haven't heard that so far |
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| 14:47 | alaquerre | How often do you "rebuild zebra" during the day ? |
| 14:47 | kf | -z every 5 minutes |
| 14:47 | the incremental rebuild, not a full one | |
| 14:47 | alaquerre | How big is instance approx ? |
| 14:47 | kf | it differes |
| 14:47 | up to around 70.000 I think currently | |
| 14:48 | alaquerre | How much time it take to do the incremental rebuild ? |
| 14:48 | kf | but not sure your problem is related to that |
| 14:48 | I don't know .) | |
| 14:48 | alaquerre | We have the impression that when we rebuild, when the index is dump, we lose the connection with Zebra |
| 14:48 | kf | it's fast and you can search while zebra does it |
| 14:49 | alaquerre | Ok... not sure what is our problem. :-( |
| 14:49 | kf | hm have never had that happen |
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| 14:49 | kf | hi maximep |
| 14:49 | alaquerre | Make me think we are doing something really wrong. |
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| 14:54 | magnuse | alaquerre: you might want to look at how rebuild_zebra.pl is set up in your cronjobs |
| 14:55 | alaquerre | rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z |
| 14:57 | Are you using any other option ? | |
| 14:59 | magnuse | and how often do you run it |
| 14:59 | no, the options look fine i guess | |
| 14:59 | alaquerre | I beleive it's each minute |
| 15:01 | magnuse | hm, i don't have any clever ideas, i'm afraid... |
| 15:01 | alaquerre | Ok, still thanks for the validation :-) |
| 15:01 | * magnuse | wanders off to get ready to make pizza in a couple of hours |
| 15:06 | magnuse | dbix::class is pretty awesome, btw ;-) |
| 15:06 | maximep | good morning kf |
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| 15:12 | bigbrovar | Hi guys.. trying to upgrade our koha instance from 3.4.1 to 3.10.2 after installing all the required perl modules (as per the upgrade docs) I got the following error when I ran a make test http://pastebin.com/BQH23Tz3 |
| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1050: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1050/ |
| 15:13 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 9592 - remove db-dependency from Members.pm | |
| 15:13 | * Robin Sheat: Bug 9592 - update dependencies, allow blacklisting | |
| 15:13 | * David Cook: Bug 9585 - Fix spelling mistake in default tab conditional for opac-detail | |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9592 minor, P3, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Package dependency updates for master |
| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9545 - Fix import MARC bibliographic framework text label |
| 15:13 | * Jonathan Druart: Bug 9545 - Followup Fix import MARC bibliographic framework text label | |
| 15:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9385 - patron add labels right aligned in chrome | |
| 15:13 | * Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9226: Wrong branch filter after suggestion creation | |
| 15:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9467 - Use DataTables on catalog by item type report page | |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9585 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Fix spelling mistake in default tab conditional for opac-detail |
| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9465 - Use DataTables on update child to adult patron page |
| 15:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9461 [Revised] Use DataTables on holds awaiting pickup report page | |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9545 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Fix Import Marc Bibliographic Framework Text Label |
| 15:13 | jenkins_koha | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9460 - Use DataTables on transfers to receive report page |
| 15:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9420 [Revised] Work on Bootstrap for Koha | |
| 15:13 | * Owen Leonard: Bug 9420 [Revised] Work on Bootstrap for Koha: Circ toolbar | |
| 15:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9385 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , patron add labels right aligned in chrome |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9226 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Wrong branch filter after suggestion creation | |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on catalog by item type report page | |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9465 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on update child to adult patron page | |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9461 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on holds awaiting pickup report page | |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9460 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use DataTables on transfers to receive report page | |
| 15:14 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Work on Bootstrap for Koha | |
| 15:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1051 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:18 | tcohen | rangi, should I mark bug 9502 as RESOLVED? |
| 15:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9502 minor, P5 - low, ---, chris, Signed Off , famfamfam: wrongly placed in package 3.8.8/9 |
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| 15:39 | kf | oleonard: patch frenzy? :) |
| 15:40 | oleonard | That's my plan |
| 15:40 | kf | :) |
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| 15:40 | bigbrovar | Hi guys.. trying to upgrade our koha instance from 3.4.1 to 3.10.2 after installing all the required perl modules (as per the upgrade docs) I got the following error when I ran a make test http://pastebin.com/BQH23Tz3 |
| 15:42 | kf | bigbrovar: maybe check bugzilla for failing calendar tests |
| 15:42 | bigbrovar | kf: I will do that thanks |
| 15:43 | oleonard | failing calendar tests are to be expected as far as I can recall |
| 15:47 | bigbrovar | oleonard: mean I can proceed with make install without worries ? |
| 15:48 | oleonard | I believe so bigbrovar, although I am not an install expert |
| 15:50 | jcamins_away | bigbrovar: yes, you can continue. |
| 15:50 | * jcamins_away | made it into the city. |
| 15:50 | bigbrovar | jcamins_away: thanks |
| 15:52 | jcamins_away | This computer thinks it is April 1. |
| 15:55 | kf | making jokes? |
| 15:55 | jcamins_away | kf: it makes the timesheet software very grouchy. |
| 15:56 | kf | jcamins: I feel for the timesheet software |
| 15:57 | bigbrovar | ok so sudo make upgrade went well.. I got the following error from the web installer when I attempted to upgrade the database http://paste.ubuntu.com/1658386/ |
| 15:57 | jcamins | I don't know what that means. |
| 15:59 | Why is it that every single e-book in my local library has 10+ holds on it? | |
| 16:00 | oleonard | jcamins: Because they have a small collection and an e-book policy which prevents two people from having one at the same time? |
| 16:02 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, sounds right. |
| 16:03 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 16:05 | oleonard | The only people that like the way ebooks are handled in public libraries is Overdrive. Everyone else is holding their nose over some aspect of it. |
| 16:06 | The patrons about the process, the librarians about the cost and restrictions, the publishers about the fact that someone is reading each of those files more than once :P | |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Argh! |
| 16:08 | I took my bonefolder out of my backpack because Shari needed it, and now I am bonefolder-less! | |
| 16:08 | kf | bonefolder?? |
| 16:08 | you fold bones? :P | |
| 16:08 | jcamins | No, it's a folder made of bones. |
| 16:08 | kf | ah, I know. it's a little tool made of bone to work with paper? |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Well, a bone. |
| 16:08 | Yes. | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | jcamins: http://www.khaaan.com/ |
| 16:09 | jcamins | oleonard: exactly how I feel about the matter. |
| 16:10 | I think they charged me the wrong amount or sent me the wrong boxes. | |
| 16:11 | I had ordered the cheap ones, and instead they sent me nice ones for the same price. | |
| 16:13 | kf | in that case...just feel lucky? :) |
| 16:13 | oleonard: just got the new bootstrap menu - I like :) | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | kf: I am! |
| 16:14 | oleonard | What are you folding today jcamins? |
| 16:15 | rambutan | I fold proteins |
| 16:16 | which is to say, I boinc | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | oleonard: boxes. |
| 16:16 | About 30. | |
| 16:16 | kf | at a client's? |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:18 | These are really nicely made boxes. | |
| 16:19 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1051: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1051/ |
| 16:36 | kf | oleonard: by tonight no more yui menus will be left in Koha? :) |
| 16:37 | oleonard | Not quite, but I'm working on it :) |
| 16:37 | jcamins | oleonard++ |
| 16:41 | kf | oleonard++ :) |
| 16:41 | i should get a shortcut for that :) | |
| 16:42 | oleonard | jcamins++ |
| 16:42 | kf++ | |
| 16:42 | Because without your help I couldn't have gotten the first Bootstrap patch in :) | |
| 16:42 | kf | I was not helpful with that :) |
| 16:43 | oleonard | kf: What about all the cookies you supplied me with? |
| 16:43 | kf | I think Jonathan qa'd? |
| 16:43 | lol okok :) | |
| 16:44 | oleonard | I always forget Jonathan's IRC nick |
| 16:44 | kf | Joubu |
| 16:44 | jcamins | joubu |
| 16:44 | oleonard | Joubu++ |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Oh, kf already said that. |
| 16:45 | * kf | fixes jcamins code :P |
| 16:46 | kf | well, he is not to blame for our weird data |
| 16:47 | jcamins | No, you Germans have no one to blame but yourself for that. :P |
| 16:47 | germs? | |
| 16:47 | wahanui | germs is http://i.imgur.com/5UfhT.jpg |
| 16:47 | jcamins | germs? |
| 16:47 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 16:48 | kf | if that's true you are going ot have weird data soon too *muahaha* ;) |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Why do you think I'm abandoning MARC? :P |
| 16:49 | kf | leaving ship captain? ts. |
| 16:50 | jcamins: is there an easy way to check that marc really included the 400 for other fields? | |
| 16:50 | drojf | a famous hunter once said something like: you can turn your back on a person, but you can never turn your back on MARC |
| 16:51 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 16:52 | kf | testing my patch ... it's ok |
| 16:53 | bug 9620 | |
| 16:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9620 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , IncludeSeeFromInSearches ON and data in $9 subfields can break rebulid_zebra.pl |
| 16:54 | kf | drojf: could happen to you too by the way... |
| 16:55 | drojf | kf: we do not have authorities so far. i think that will not happen very soon, so you have that fixed by then. i trust you :) |
| 16:55 | good to know though | |
| 16:55 | kf | was more looking for an innocent tester :) |
| 16:55 | drojf | i know ;) |
| 16:55 | jcamins | drojf: watch out... germs _are_ contagious. |
| 16:56 | kf | jcamins: he is one, I am sure all warnings are lost |
| 16:56 | jcamins | kf: I know, but I thought he might have forgotten. ;) |
| 17:03 | So, oleonard, I guess you weren't really looking forward to Bootstrap getting into Koha, were you? :P | |
| 17:04 | drojf | lol |
| 17:04 | oleonard | I figured I'd get around to it eventually you know, if nothing good was on TV |
| 17:09 | * kf | feels like competing with jcamins for longest commit mesage |
| 17:10 | jcamins | kf: there are many things that people can compete with me on, but I have to warn you that you are almost certain to lose that one. |
| 17:10 | kf | bug 9620 might sound a bit insane... but as it is a real problem for us it would be really nice if someone would consider testing it :) |
| 17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9620 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , IncludeSeeFromInSearches ON and data in $9 subfields can break indexing |
| 17:10 | kf | and the test plan is not so hard, you can ignoret my atempt to explain why it was broken |
| 17:10 | jcamins | My tl;dr summary was so long it had a tl;dr summary on bug 7284. |
| 17:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED FIXED, Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:10 | jcamins | :P |
| 17:11 | * jcamins | waits impatiently for Chrome portable to update. |
| 17:16 | jcamins | bgkriegel++ |
| 17:17 | Apparently LibreOffice 4.0 has been released. | |
| 17:18 | oleonard | I hope you're not waiting for that to update too jcamins? |
| 17:19 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 17:22 | oleonard | Speaking of LibreOffice, some good news for them: http://www.techdirt.com/articl[…]gle-install.shtml |
| 17:23 | kf | bye all and have a nice weekend! |
| 17:23 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 17:24 | rambutan | Chrome portable? like Portable Apps? |
| 17:24 | jcamins | rambutan: yeah. |
| 17:24 | rambutan | well, I need to chek it out |
| 17:24 | check | |
| 17:25 | jcamins | I use my client's computer on Fridays, and rather than worry about web browser settings, I just use portable Chrome. |
| 17:38 | oleonard: we used YUI buttons on a lot of pages, didn't we? | |
| 17:38 | oleonard | And now we'll use Bootstrap buttons on a lot of pages :) |
| 17:39 | And maybe more, if we want to start styling other buttons in Bootstrap style | |
| 17:40 | drojf | must get really crowded in the button retirement home |
| 17:41 | gerundio | hey guys, we just uploaded the new look & feel for our Koha installation: https://opac.fct.unl.pt/ |
| 17:41 | any thoughts? | |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Yes: nice! |
| 17:41 | Also that it would be better if you fixed the cart button. | |
| 17:42 | And styled the "save" button for lists in the search results screen. | |
| 17:42 | :D | |
| 17:42 | drojf | does not load for me |
| 17:42 | jcamins | And rounded the edges of the Search button on advanced searhc. :) |
| 17:42 | *search | |
| 17:42 | * jcamins | hopes you wanted thoughts like that. :) |
| 17:43 | gerundio | jcamins, thanks for the feedback |
| 17:43 | our designer just worked on the homepage | |
| 17:43 | so there are probably lots of issues in the inner pages | |
| 17:44 | btw, the HTML generated by Koha is not very friendly | |
| 17:44 | jcamins++ | |
| 17:44 | jcamins | gerundio: it's getting better, thanks to oleonard. |
| 17:44 | oleonard | gerundio: Feel free to file a bug if you have suggestions about how it could be improved from a customization point of view |
| 17:44 | gerundio | drojf, doesn't load, like you get 404? |
| 17:45 | drojf | gerundio: Iceweasel can't find the server at opac.fct.unl.pt. |
| 17:45 | Server not found | |
| 17:45 | wahanui | Server not found is a different error to what you described before |
| 17:45 | drojf | wahanui: forget Server not found |
| 17:45 | wahanui | drojf: I forgot server not found |
| 17:45 | oleonard | drojf: DNS problem? Works for me. |
| 17:46 | drojf: Your internet pipe is probably full for the day. | |
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| 17:46 | jcamins | excuse? |
| 17:46 | wahanui | jcamins: SCSI's too wide. |
| 17:46 | drojf | oleonard: i did not notice dns problems so far but could be |
| 17:46 | so far = before this | |
| 17:46 | gerundio | what does a nslookup query say about opac.fct.unl.pt? |
| 17:46 | drojf | other stuff works fine |
| 17:47 | i can get fct.unl.pt btw | |
| 17:47 | nslookup opac.fct.unl.pt | |
| 17:47 | Server: 85.214.20.141 | |
| 17:47 | Address: 85.214.20.141#53 | |
| 17:47 | ** server can't find opac.fct.unl.pt: NXDOMAIN | |
| 17:47 | wahanui | opac.fct.unl.pt is 193.136.126.111 |
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| 17:49 | oleonard | What was that all about wahanui? |
| 17:50 | drojf | works fine (little slow) with the ip wahanui gave. looks like there is some old dns cache thingy going on |
| 17:50 | gerundio | drojf, weird indeed :| |
| 17:51 | oleonard, a couple of things | |
| 17:51 | the opaccredits description says: "Include the following HTML in the footer of all pages in the OPAC" | |
| 17:51 | take a look at this book description page | |
| 17:51 | https://opac.fct.unl.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=25431 | |
| 17:52 | and compare the position of the 2 logos | |
| 17:52 | drojf | look, it's raining more buttons |
| 17:52 | gerundio | from that page and the homepage |
| 17:54 | oleonard | gerundio: I see, though I don't know why it's like that |
| 17:57 | gerundio | oleonard, other thing with all those yui classes |
| 17:57 | the main content area on the homepage is very odd | |
| 17:58 | there's no main container with 3 columns in it | |
| 17:58 | we have the yui-main side by side with yui-b (left opacnav area) | |
| 17:59 | an easier approach would be to have a main div with 3 divs inside, something like left, center and right | |
| 18:00 | btw, just noticed a strange behaviour | |
| 18:00 | I deactivated the cart | |
| 18:00 | oleonard | gerundio: The OPAC (like the staff client) uses YUI CSS grids for layout, and unfortunately they are not all things to all people. |
| 18:00 | gerundio | it doesn't show in PT but it shows in EN |
| 18:02 | oleonard, I get that, I looked into Yahoo's grid builder | |
| 18:05 | oleonard | gerundio: YUI grids are quite unfriendly to designs in which one wants full-column background colors, but unfortunately so are most CSS grids |
| 18:06 | gerundio | that's no even my issue with it |
| 18:06 | oleonard | (in my experience anyway) |
| 18:06 | gerundio | for me it just doesn't seem natural to have 2 divs side by side via CSS margins |
| 18:07 | and in order to have a 3 column design the div on the right has 2 divs inside | |
| 18:08 | I'm getting a JS script error in the homepage because of a badly quoted translation | |
| 18:09 | do the translations accept escaping double quotes? | |
| 18:09 | jcamins | gerundio: that probably means there's a single quote where there should be a double quote. |
| 18:09 | gerundio | jcamins, the other way around, but that's it :D |
| 18:09 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 18:09 | I'm not sure how to escape double quotes. | |
| 18:09 | Probably backslash. | |
| 18:10 | gerundio | I was thinking what would be the best way: backslash escape VS replace for single quotes |
| 18:10 | betting on door #2 | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | For translation purposes, Javascript should always be enclosed in double-quotes, so you'll need to go with option 2. |
| 18:12 | Single quotes are much more common than double quotes. | |
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| 18:49 | alohabot | Hi mib_ir3w55, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 18:54 | oleonard | You came on too strong alohabot |
| 19:04 | rangi | 9 |
| 19:04 | heh | |
| 19:04 | morning | |
| 19:05 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 19:06 | wahanui | well, Morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:06 | cait | hi rangi |
| 19:06 | morning? | |
| 19:06 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:06 | cait | Morning? |
| 19:06 | wahanui | Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:06 | cait | hm. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Morning.? |
| 19:06 | wahanui | hmmm... Morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:06 | drojf | jcamins' mornings are different |
| 19:06 | cait | that would have been my next try :) |
| 19:06 | forget Morning. | |
| 19:06 | wahanui | cait: I forgot morning |
| 19:06 | jcamins | wahanui: forget Morning. |
| 19:06 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching morning |
| 19:07 | jcamins | morning? |
| 19:07 | Morning. | |
| 19:07 | wahanui | Morning. is probably possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:07 | jcamins | wahanui: forget Morning\. |
| 19:07 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching morning\ |
| 19:07 | jcamins | wahanui: forget Morning.. |
| 19:07 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching morning |
| 19:07 | jcamins | wahanui: forget Morning* |
| 19:07 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching morning* |
| 19:07 | jcamins | wahanui: forget Morning? |
| 19:07 | wahanui | jcamins, I didn't have anything matching morning |
| 19:07 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:07 | morning. | |
| 19:07 | wahanui | rumour has it morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:08 | jcamins | no, Morning. is Ah, morning, the cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:08 | morning. | |
| 19:08 | wahanui | morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:08 | jcamins | wahanui: no, Morning. is Ah, morning, the cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:08 | wahanui | ...but morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance... |
| 19:08 | jcamins | morning. |
| 19:08 | wahanui | hmmm... morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:08 | jcamins | wahanui: no, Morning. is <reply> Ah, morning, the cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:08 | wahanui | ...but morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance... |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Grr. |
| 19:09 | cait | grr. indeed. |
| 19:09 | morning? | |
| 19:09 | morning. | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | morning. is possible to install another "website" in the same server that is using koha? \ mywebsite.com/ is using koha and it works, but if I go to mywebsite.com/new/index.php says koha is in maintance |
| 19:09 | jcamins | I've been outsmarted by a bot which just repeats things. |
| 19:09 | cait | forget morning. |
| 19:09 | wahanui: forget morning. | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching morning |
| 19:09 | cait | forget \morning. |
| 19:09 | hmpf. | |
| 19:10 | jcamins | morning. |
| 19:10 | wahanui | Ah, morning, the cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Hah! |
| 19:10 | morning. | |
| 19:10 | wahanui | Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast. |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Now with correct punctuation. |
| 19:10 | cait | heh |
| 19:10 | Morning? | |
| 19:11 | just double checking... | |
| 19:11 | drojf | morning is a state of cat |
| 19:23 | cait | oleonard: go and have some weekend? :) |
| 19:24 | jcamins | At 2:30? |
| 19:24 | That sounds wonderful. | |
| 19:35 | oleonard: I was thinking... should your Bootstrap/datatables patches actually be considered "bugfixes"? | |
| 19:35 | I mean, if tablesorter and YUI are both deprecated, using them is deifnitely a bug. | |
| 19:37 | cait | jcamins: you want to port them back down? |
| 19:37 | rangi | i wont be porting them to 3.10 and 3.8 |
| 19:37 | cait | or just after feature freeze? |
| 19:38 | jcamins | cait: feature freeze. |
| 19:38 | wahanui | feature freeze is probably march 22nd 2013 |
| 19:38 | cait | jcamins: i would be ok with that if we can't finish it before |
| 19:38 | itmakes sense to replace all menus | |
| 19:38 | and not only part of it | |
| 19:38 | jcamins | I was more thinking for QA than for new patches, though. |
| 19:39 | cait | hm? |
| 19:39 | they should not be hard to qa I think | |
| 19:39 | the patches | |
| 19:39 | wahanui | the patches are on the bug |
| 19:39 | jcamins | So that during the hackfest the QA team could focus on other code. |
| 19:39 | cait | ah |
| 19:39 | maybe | |
| 19:39 | jcamins | I can wait another month to decide, of course. |
| 19:40 | cait | not sure I can follow you |
| 19:40 | I shouldmake dinner :) | |
| 19:40 | and maybe something with caffeine | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | If those patches are considered "enhancements," during the hackfest, the QA team would need to concentrate on handling them. |
| 19:40 | cait | yeah |
| 19:41 | jcamins | As opposed to any of the 200 other patches currently either signed off or awaiting sign off. |
| 19:41 | cait | just think about it and letme know tomorrow or omnday or whatever? :) |
| 19:41 | jcamins | I'll let you know around March 14. |
| 19:41 | cait | i might start looking at them tho... too tempting |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Please do! |
| 19:41 | Best of all would be if they were dealt with prior to the feature slush. | |
| 19:42 | cait | yeah of course |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Could someone please update bug 9638 to inform Nikumbh that zebraqueue_daemon was deprecated for years and has been removed intentionally? |
| 19:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9638 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , koha-zebraqueue-ctl.sh and zebraqueue_daemon.pl missing in latest stable release (installer-source) koha-3.10.02.tar.gz |
| 19:49 | cait | done |
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| 19:49 | jcamins | Thanks! |
| 19:49 | cait | yay I closed a bug! |
| 19:49 | jcamins | :D |
| 19:49 | * oleonard | looks forward to the bug report complaining that all the YUI buttons are gone |
| 19:49 | cait | hehe |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 19:49 | cait | lol |
| 19:49 | drojf | heh |
| 19:49 | jcamins | Are we close? |
| 19:50 | cait | ok, time to throw together some dinner, brb. |
| 19:50 | drojf | woah they are mostly signed off already. cool |
| 19:50 | oleonard | I have five more patches to rebase and post, then 9 or 10 other pages to work on. |
| 19:50 | cait | oh cool |
| 19:50 | who did? | |
| 19:50 | i thinmk some aremore complicated like the floating menu in cataloging? | |
| 19:51 | jcamins | bgkriegel has spent the past two days testing oleonard's patches. |
| 19:51 | oleonard | And the acquisitions ones will need to be based on the new acquisitions nav structure |
| 19:52 | cait | ah |
| 19:52 | jcamins | I may be pushing that tonight. |
| 19:52 | cait | i was just going to ask you :) |
| 19:52 | * oleonard | owes bkriegel multiple beers |
| 19:52 | jcamins | It's second on my list. |
| 19:52 | oleonard | Is admin/stopwords.tt still in use? |
| 19:52 | cait | hmm |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Hmm... I don't think so. |
| 19:53 | cait | I think it could maybe be removed? |
| 19:53 | jcamins | It doesn't do anything. |
| 19:53 | cait | did we officially remove no zebra by now? |
| 19:53 | jcamins | There are still bits of NoZebra code, sadly. |
| 19:53 | cait | not only deprecate but really remove it I mean? |
| 19:54 | jcamins | The code is still there, but it has not worked _at all_ since before 3.8, at the very latest. |
| 19:54 | oleonard | Bug 7440 |
| 19:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7440 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Vestiges of NoZebra should be removed |
| 19:54 | jcamins | For example, the NoZebra code in one of the searches was removed. |
| 19:55 | And it is no longer possible to choose to use NoZebra. | |
| 19:55 | (the code was removed after it stopped working) | |
| 19:55 | oleonard | For some reason I thought there was an objection to removing it altogether... Maybe I'm thinking of something else |
| 19:56 | jcamins | oleonard: there was an objection that we should offer the option of not using Zebra, however since none of the objectors could be bothered to make it work any time in the past two years, they were overruled. |
| 20:02 | * oleonard | heaps praise upon git-bz |
| 20:03 | jcamins | The -m switch? |
| 20:04 | oleonard | In particular, yes |
| 20:04 | * jcamins | had a feeling. |
| 20:05 | cait | oh |
| 20:05 | the -m? | |
| 20:06 | I don't know the -m! | |
| 20:06 | jcamins | It sends an e-mail to the list. |
| 20:06 | cait | oh |
| 20:18 | drojf | this guy keeps spamming me with offers for YUI button replacement |
| 20:18 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:19 | drojf | much more fun that the reals spam i get… »No matter what your interests are, our robots have picked out events you're sure to love!«. thanks mozilla for outsourcing the appday stuff to eventbrite |
| 20:22 | cait | you got a phone :) |
| 20:22 | drojf | i got nothing so far ;) |
| 20:22 | cait | details... |
| 20:22 | drojf | but i feel like a phone owner, true |
| 20:23 | i'm surprised to say that »Git Merge is a Git user conference held to bring together Git users and Git developers. This May we will be getting together in Berlin to improve the world of Git for everyone.« really does not sound completely off | |
| 20:23 | cait | i live in the wrong place |
| 20:24 | drojf | not-berlin? yeah, i hate that place |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Alas. gerundio is no longer here. |
| 20:24 | I can't figure out how to file "Maximo de Azevedo Marques." | |
| 20:24 | Azevedo Marques or de Azevedo Marques? | |
| 20:26 | drojf | hm. i think you choose one and stick to it, then it is correct ;) |
| 20:27 | cait | A |
| 20:27 | drojf | but really, we have the same with 'von', but i don't remember if there is a "right" way or just a "consistent" way |
| 20:27 | listen to cait | |
| 20:27 | cait | Azevedo Marques, Maximo de |
| 20:27 | jcamins | Weird... |
| 20:27 | wahanui | hmmm... weird is normal after a while :) |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Marques, Maximo de Azevedo? |
| 20:28 | ... | |
| 20:28 | no. | |
| 20:28 | I don't believe that. | |
| 20:28 | I prefer cait's version. | |
| 20:28 | * jcamins | files under A. |
| 20:28 | cait | that's because it's right :P |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Not according to Princeton. |
| 20:28 | cait | well |
| 20:28 | according to rak I think | |
| 20:29 | drojf | rak n roll |
| 20:29 | cait | http://www.payer.de/rakwb/rakwb03.htm#3.1. |
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| 20:29 | cait | see: Broglie, Louis de |
| 20:29 | jcamins | :) |
| 20:30 | See, this is why having an IRC channel full of librarians helps. | |
| 20:30 | cait | but I don't knwo about the weird ways your aacr2 might file that :P |
| 20:31 | drojf | Regeln für die einzelnen Staaten s. § 314, 5 A - M (daraus als Beispiel): |
| 20:32 | sounds mildly attractive | |
| 20:32 | cait | ah, rak was fun |
| 20:32 | cool prof | |
| 20:32 | it's her website :) | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | "Fun." |
| 20:32 | * jcamins | shakes his head. |
| 20:33 | cait | what? |
| 20:33 | drojf | there are moments when i do not regret having no librarian education |
| 20:33 | cait | pf |
| 20:34 | drojf | not now! that is quite interesting :) |
| 20:34 | also, weird. but interesting | |
| 20:34 | cait | hehe |
| 20:34 | ok :) | |
| 20:34 | I can live with that I think | |
| 20:35 | drojf | Luther King, Martin |
| 20:35 | i wouldn't find that ;) | |
| 20:36 | cait | um |
| 20:36 | but isn't that logical? | |
| 20:36 | drojf | nope? |
| 20:36 | cait | you are right |
| 20:36 | where did you find that | |
| 20:36 | ? | |
| 20:36 | lol | |
| 20:36 | you are not readin git correctly | |
| 20:36 | Ans= Ansetzung | |
| 20:36 | drojf | i am not sure if it is supposed to be showing how it is not done |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Definitely reading it wrong. |
| 20:36 | And I don't even know German! | |
| 20:36 | cait | So King, Martin Luther is the right one |
| 20:37 | you only do a see also with Luther King, Martin to be nice | |
| 20:37 | drojf | i know that that is the right one. what is verw than? |
| 20:37 | AH | |
| 20:37 | cait | verweisungsform |
| 20:37 | think card catalogs | |
| 20:37 | drojf | craziness |
| 20:37 | cait | you would have printed a second card |
| 20:37 | and put it under L | |
| 20:37 | drojf | i wouldn't have :D |
| 20:37 | cait | well |
| 20:37 | imagine people not knowing english so well | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Nice librarians would have. :P |
| 20:37 | cait | back ago |
| 20:38 | someone coudl have thought that Luther king was a double name | |
| 20:38 | drojf | still you found the weird form logical :P |
| 20:38 | luther-king? :) | |
| 20:38 | cait | she chose a popular example, but there might be others where it's not that obvious |
| 20:38 | yeah | |
| 20:39 | much more common in europe I think than anywhere else | |
| 20:39 | jcamins: why do you have a double last name? | |
| 20:39 | isn't that pretty uncommon? :) | |
| 20:39 | drojf: I am tired, it was not logical | |
| 20:39 | drojf | sorry, just kidding ;) |
| 20:40 | jcamins | cait: it is pretty uncommon. |
| 20:40 | I have both my parents' last names. | |
| 20:40 | cait | hm really uncommon |
| 20:41 | I think most of the time kids here ony have one name, but when you get married you take both sometimes | |
| 20:41 | drojf: that about right? | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Same here. |
| 20:41 | Oh, wait, you mean you take your spouse's name? | |
| 20:41 | That's not common here. | |
| 20:42 | I thought you meant that sometimes kids take both their parents' names. | |
| 20:42 | drojf | yes. you are not allowed to give your child both names if you are not married. applies to friends of mine at the moment, i think they would have considered it |
| 20:42 | but they don't want to get marries | |
| 20:42 | married | |
| 20:42 | cait | jcamins: but yes, that's what people do -get marry, double up their names |
| 20:42 | mostly women, seldomly men | |
| 20:42 | drojf | some do |
| 20:43 | some don't | |
| 20:43 | cait | although I think they can |
| 20:43 | jcamins | That's starting to be done more here, I think. |
| 20:43 | drojf | no idea of the numbers. i think it is not possible to quadruple the name though |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:43 | drojf | (if two people with double names get married. would be fun) |
| 20:43 | cait | lol |
| 20:43 | I am sure some rules apply to that | |
| 20:44 | lol | |
| 20:44 | drojf | ha love it |
| 20:44 | cait | but shari did keep her name, didn't she? |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 20:45 | I don't think there are rules that apply to hyphenating names here in the US because my last name isn't recognized as valid by the government. | |
| 20:46 | oleonard | Isn't admin/printers.pl being resurrected? |
| 20:46 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
| 20:47 | New York state recognizes my last name. | |
| 20:47 | drojf | not recognized as valid? |
| 20:47 | how does that show? ;) | |
| 20:48 | you don't exist outside of NY? | |
| 20:48 | cait | hm different name on passport? |
| 20:50 | jcamins | drojf: I have two last names instead of a hyphenated last name. |
| 20:51 | drojf | i see |
| 20:51 | could have been worse :) | |
| 20:51 | jcamins | True. |
| 20:54 | senator | jcamins: getting my passport renewed right now for the first time since changing my last name to the current hyphenated one. social security office had no objection at the time, but we'll see what the department of state says. wouldn't be surprised by inconsistency at all. |
| 20:55 | cait | hm I only have 3 names and one last name |
| 20:55 | drojf | three names? |
| 20:55 | jcamins | cait: three names? |
| 20:55 | cait | yeah |
| 20:56 | my sister got her second name from my mother, my brother got it from my dad... and when I was born they fell back to grandmothers | |
| 20:56 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:56 | drojf | hehe |
| 20:56 | senator | my sister has three names for the very same reason |
| 20:57 | cait | my dad is always joking that they expected there had to be a third type... or something |
| 20:57 | well, they got a geek, guess that was unexpected :) | |
| 20:58 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:58 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:58 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.4°C (9:55 PM CET on February 15, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:58 | jcamins | I have a middle name and my next brother has a middle name, but the youngest two do not. |
| 20:58 | cait | ran out of names? :) |
| 20:59 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 20:59 | cait | lol |
| 21:00 | jcamins | Apparently my parents could only come up with two boys' names that started with 'S' that they both liked. |
| 21:01 | cait | started with s? |
| 21:01 | jcamins | Yeah. All my brothers (and my father) have first names starting with 'J.' My mother's name starts with an 'S.' |
| 21:02 | oleonard | Have a good weekend everyone |
| 21:02 | jcamins | The idea was that all the girls would have S first names and J middle names and the boys J first names and S middle names. |
| 21:02 | cait | but.. you gotno sisters |
| 21:03 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:03 | That's why they ran out of S middle names for boys... they had spent all their time planning S first names for girls. :) | |
| 21:03 | drojf | lol |
| 21:03 | cait | lol |
| 21:12 | rambutan | jcamins: do I remember you ever using jared camins-beh? |
| 21:13 | jcamins | rambutan: No, I always use Camins-Esakov. |
| 21:13 | rambutan | musta been somebody else |
| 21:13 | jcamins | Or just Camins. |
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| 21:20 | cait | bed time :) |
| 21:20 | bye all and have a good weekend :) | |
| 21:21 | cait left #koha | |
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| 21:26 | koyauni | hi guys, if I want to define a tag for biblionumber how do I do this, is there any link in documentation I can use please |
| 21:32 | jcamins | Time to call it a day and head home. |
| 21:32 | Bye. | |
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| 22:33 | * drojf | is a bad person |
| 22:33 | bag | no you aren't |
| 22:34 | drojf | :) |
| 22:44 | i wasn't aware that the url to rangi's blog post ends in »you-must-help-me-no« and not »now« :D | |
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| 22:58 | bag | ha |
| 23:16 | jcamins_away | drojf++ # nice e-mail |
| 23:26 | jcamins | I wonder if there's anything in bootstrap that would allow us to make the record view buttons on the OPAC more attractive and understandable. |
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