IRC log for #koha, 2013-02-09

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00:11 bag welcome back then
00:14 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #61: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/61/
00:14 Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9432: Plack changes for acqui/addorderiso2409.pl
00:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9432 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , acqui/addorderiso2409.pl is not Plack-friendly
00:15 jenkins_koha Starting build #268 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
00:40 rangi hmmmm
00:41 cait wasn't it you doing the rda framework?
00:41 rangi well spacelibrarian prompted me, but yep http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]-support-in-koha/
00:41 jcamins cait: yeah, I still can't believe rangi wasted his time on it. :P
00:41 Okay, yes I can.
00:41 @quote get 123
00:41 huginn jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
00:42 jcamins ^^ all is explained
00:42 rangi :)
00:43 cait hm, they shoudl give you credit
00:43 rangi salright, i know :)
00:53 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #268: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/268/
00:53 * Chris Cormack: Bug 9546 : Updating make manifest tardist
00:53 * dcook: Bug 7507 - Audience Subtype limit on OPAC Advanced Search does not have all Audiences
00:53 * dcook: Bug 9552 - BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties
00:53 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9493: confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable
00:53 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9546 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , MANIFEST.SKIP breaking regexp when running make manifest tardist
00:53 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7507 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Audience Subtype limit on Advanced Search does not have all Audiences
00:53 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9552 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties
00:53 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9493 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable
00:53 jenkins_koha Starting build #62 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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01:33 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #62: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/62/
01:33 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9421: tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible
01:33 * Chris Cormack: Bug 9546 : Updating make manifest tardist
01:33 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
01:33 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9421 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , tools/picture-upload.pl not Plack-compatible
01:33 jenkins_koha * dcook: Bug 7507 - Audience Subtype limit on OPAC Advanced Search does not have all Audiences
01:33 * dcook: Bug 9552 - BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties
01:33 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9493: confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable
01:33 * robin: Bug 9143 - changelog and build script updates
01:34 * liz: Bug 9499 - --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate
01:34 * Jared Camins-Esakov: Bug 9451: Quiet warnings and Plackify borrower_stats.pl
01:34 * sophie.meynieux: Bug 9320 Pending reserves report should not show waiting items
01:34 * Chris Cormack: Follow up fixing the case of SQL
01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9546 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , MANIFEST.SKIP breaking regexp when running make manifest tardist
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7507 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Audience Subtype limit on Advanced Search does not have all Audiences
01:34 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 9329: Wrong message for already expired cards
01:34 Starting build #269 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:34 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9552 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , BIB1 Relation "Greater Than" Attribute Not Mapped Properly in CCL.Properties
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9493 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , confirmations for user holds in opac are not translatable
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Package related updates for master
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9499 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9451 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , borrower_stats.pl gives off warnings and is not Plack-compatible
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9320 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Pending reserves is showing reserves already waiting
01:34 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9329 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Wrong message for already expired cards
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01:49 jenkins_koha Starting build #270 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:28 Project Koha_3.8.x build #270: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/270/
02:28 * Liz Rea: Bug 9499 - --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate
02:28 * Sophie Meynieux: Bug 9320 Pending reserves report should not show waiting items
02:28 * Chris Cormack: Follow up fixing the case of SQL
02:28 * Adrien Saurat: Bug 9329: Wrong message for already expired cards
02:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9499 trivial, P5 - low, ---, liz, Pushed to Stable , --itemscontent= option is undocumented in advanced-notice.pl cronjob + default date should be date_due, not issuedate
02:28 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9320 normal, P5 - low, ---, sophie.meynieux, Pushed to Stable , Pending reserves is showing reserves already waiting
02:28 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9329 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Wrong message for already expired cards
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02:40 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9392' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9dd051b98dc6d0b1> / Bug 9392: confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e44013307933cf6e9>
02:48 jenkins_koha Starting build #1044 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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03:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #1044: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1044/
03:55 Fridolyn SOMERS: Bug 9392: confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues
03:56 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9392 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , confirmation does not appear for negative notforloan items issues
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08:47 rangi heh
08:47 way to repost the spam
09:58 drojf heh. now to get someone to complain about reposting the spam, with a full quote. spammer's heaven
10:00 rangi heh
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10:30 vkm koha 3.8.9 does not display and calculate fines on holidays in patron account?
10:32 will it count all fines and display on next working day? including fines of hildays as i have stted direct fines in system preference
10:34 first time i have seen this so on monday what woll have i do not know today library is closed but from remote staff client i have seen it display fines up to previous day only
10:35 so pls help is there any problem in cron job or it is usual during holiday?
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16:30 jcamins_away drojf: I thought of something fun you could do!
16:30 @query nginx
16:30 huginn jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9316 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add Nginx install options with plack
16:30 jcamins_away ^^ doesn't that patch look fun?!?
16:39 drojf that looks like amazing amusement
16:40 how is the weather situation jcamins?
16:40 jcamins Kind of pitiful, really.
16:40 We don't have more than a foot of snow, and it's bright and sunny.
16:40 drojf i'm sure you're disappointed ;)
16:41 jcamins Hehe.
16:56 Heh. I just read an assertion that RDA is intended to make bibliographic records more understandable to computers.
16:56 The elimination of abbreviations is the opposite of that.
16:57 Now instead of needing to recognize "p." and "S." as meaning "pages," a system that wants to make use of that information needs to know the word for "pages" in *every single European language*.
16:58 And that's an optimistic outcome, since that assumes that no research library would ever want to use that data.
17:00 drojf sounds great. professionals at work
17:00 jcamins drojf: it was an assertion by a librarian who has already observed that RDA is worse for people.
17:00 drojf they have to change stuff. how would they justify the license fees otherwise?
17:00 :)
17:01 jcamins Yeah... that's why I'm giving up MARC for Lent.
17:02 drojf and we could sell different flavours of koha. one for each language and its abbreviations. and a multilanguage version for 5x the price
17:02 jcamins drojf: nice!
17:03 I guess the one problem with my proposed alternative to MARC is that the data still isn't translatable.
17:05 drojf lousy people, speaking different languages
17:05 we could just agree on one
17:06 i'm not sure if it was a great idea to update a vm to wheezy to test that nginx/plack patch
17:06 jcamins I guess it would be easy enough to have multiple languages.
17:06 drojf that takes forever
17:07 jcamins Hehe.
17:07 Probably not.
17:07 drojf i thought it would be easier than going through the manual starman installation pain
17:08 jcamins One of the changes I insisted on was eliminating the starman requirement.
17:08 If starman's available, it'll use it, otherwise it'll just use Plack.
17:08 drojf yes it won't be usable for normal people on squeeze otherwise
17:09 jcamins Exactly.
17:09 drojf i just got asked whether i would like to keep my old sudoers file or overwrite it. that's a funny question
17:10 jcamins That seems... problematic.
17:10 drojf indeed
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17:16 drojf aaand it's broken
17:16 jcamins The patch is, or the system?
17:16 drojf the system
17:16 wahanui the system is probably running nothing else...
17:16 jcamins That's unfortunate.
17:16 Very unfortunate, even.
17:20 drojf i think it was just a path weirdness. looks like it continues the upgrade
17:20 i had to enter a mysql password. that is odd. some things are pretty strange
17:53 45 minutes to upgrade, but now it took only a few seconds to install starman ;)
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17:55 drojf fatal: sha1 information is lacking or useless (C4/Installer/PerlDependencies.pm).
17:55 Repository lacks necessary blobs to fall back on 3-way merge.
17:55 Cannot fall back to three-way merge.
17:56 that does not sound right
18:03 jcamins No it doesn't.
18:04 Do you have an up-to-date copy of master?
18:04 drojf and it is not the upgrade's fault, i get the same on the other copy
18:04 yes
18:04 jcamins Weird.
18:04 I get the same thing.
18:06 drojf perldependencies... looks like it has to do with removing starman
18:10 jcamins But starman shouldn't have been in there to begin with...
18:10 I think Elliott forgot to squash some patches in.
18:12 drojf yes that was worded badly. i don't mean it has to do with removing starman technically
18:18 "Amazon book covers are retrieved with Amazon Product Advertising     API, which means that more covers are retrieved (ISBN13)."
18:18 what is that supposed to mean?
18:20 * jcamins doesn't try to understand. :P
18:22 drojf maybe i am more of a tinfoil hat person, but it sounds like that feature makes whoever runs that cover url caching server get paid by amazon?
18:23 jcamins No, I think it's just against the Terms of Service.
18:23 I mean, yes, that would be true, if we weren't breaking the terms of service.
18:23 I think.
18:23 But if you violate the Terms of Service, I think you just get your account suspended.
18:23 drojf ok that is a valid alternative lol
18:25 i still don't see the point of that enhancement. have another outside service to help me use more outside services?
18:25 jcamins Simplify AJAX-y cover fallback.
18:25 Right now we can't handle it.
18:28 drojf not that i ever looked at that feature, but it does not sound too hard to ask for the cover, check if that is a graphic file at the other end and if not, try the next in the list
18:28 there might be more magic to it though
18:29 jcamins Yeah... the problem is that we don't request the covers on the server.
18:29 And we have four different types of javascript for loading covers.
18:29 drojf ok that sounds like less fun
18:29 jcamins Exactly.
18:36 Hehe.
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18:40 user00 @seen jcamins
18:40 huginn user00: jcamins was last seen in #koha 3 minutes and 50 seconds ago: <jcamins> Hehe.
18:40 drojf hehe
18:41 rambutan whatup?
18:42 drojf not much. quiet weekend business
18:47 jcamins rambutan: the blizzard was very anti-climactic.
18:48 rambutan yea, I thought I'd check in with you and see if you had electricity
18:49 jcamins Yup. We got less than a foot of snow, and it's bright and sunny out now.
18:49 rambutan seems we always have to check up on the NZ people after earthquakes and the NE US people after snowstorms.
18:53 ltr...
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20:45 drojf fun fact: you could tag brothels in openstreetmap
20:45 apparently there are none in berlin
20:45 or brothel customers are not openstreetmappers
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23:44 spiker hi
23:45 I'm trying to help a no-profit here where I live that has an old installation of koha (3.00, put up by a volunteer years ago that has now left)
23:45 I've got them up on a new server  (ubuntu LTS 12.04) and got koha running from packages
23:45 what I'm trying to figure out now is what to do with the data
23:45 jcamins spiker: the channel's pretty quiet now, and I'm working on other things, but if I can help, I will. :)
23:46 Oh, you did all the parts that require lots of explanations already.
23:46 Export the MySQL database from the old 3.0 server.
23:46 Copy it to the new server.
23:46 spiker I have a dump from the old db but I'm expecting things to have changed to a degree and by the look of things it won;t cleanly import, will it?
23:46 jcamins Load that data into the 3.10 (or 3.8?) DB.
23:46 spiker I've taken a look at the schema on the new db and it seems different
23:46 I'm on 3.10
23:47 jcamins Run: `sudo koha-upgrade-schema [instancename] && sudo koha-upgrade-to-3.4 [instancename]`
23:47 You want to import the 3.0 database into a _completely_ empty database.
23:47 Then those two commands will take care of all the schema changes.
23:47 spiker when you say completely you mean without even doing the web install part?
23:48 jcamins Right.
23:48 spiker that seems to create some tables
23:48 ah, ok
23:48 then I guess I'll nuke the db
23:48 thanks, trying that
23:48 jcamins And those two commands will take a *long* time.
23:48 Probably overnight.
23:48 spiker hurray for migration commands \o/
23:49 jcamins You'll get a bunch of error messages, which are worth saving for review, but nothing to worry about.
23:49 spiker ok, cool, I'll get it going in a screen and check in again later
23:49 thanks for your help, appreciate it
23:49 jcamins You're welcome.
23:49 I love it when people come with easy questions.
23:49 spiker heh
23:50 might be worth to edit http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages to point out that those migrations steps will work in a case like this
23:51 when I read the section http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rade_Instructions it seems to suggest it would only apply to packaged based installations
23:51 and it misses the comment you made about having a completely empty db
23:51 I'll see if I can register and maybe add a few comments once I've got this to work
23:51 thanks again
23:52 jcamins Right, when upgrading a package install, you probably won't be going through the entire installation process because there's a restore script.
23:52 spiker I see
23:52 jcamins We definitely need to note that you can upgrade from any type of Koha installation.
23:53 spiker maybe I'll just put up a little blog post for anybody that's in my same situation, going from 3.00 to 3.10 felt like it was gonna be a huge deal as a lot seemed to have changed (I'm completely new to koha which obviously doesn't help :) )
23:53 just trying to help the folks here as I get some spare time over the weekend
23:54 jcamins Just make sure you point to the wiki as the canonical source of information, so if things change in a few years, people don't try and follow your blog post to disastrous results. :)
23:54 What type of non-profit is it?
23:55 spiker and btw, I'll extend a thank you from them, they've been using koha for a long time and their 2 schools run on it, without it'd been hard I guess (I just came around recently)
23:55 buddhist association, they have 2 small schools for children and a library (small stuff tho)
23:55 in CA
23:55 jcamins Awesome!
23:55 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, jcamins
23:55 jcamins Hehe.
23:56 spiker will make sure to add the pointer, thanks for the remainder
23:56 jcamins eythian: I like wahanui's response to "Awesome"... well done.

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