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| Time | Nick | Message |
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| 00:03 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1020 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 00:03 | jcamins | Oh, yay. |
| 00:03 | Irma joined #koha | |
| 00:03 | jcamins | Most of the patches that have passed QA are patches that are unpleasant to test. |
| 00:16 | Such as the overdue notices... | |
| 00:16 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 00:16 | jcamins | Which are entirely non-functional on Plack systems. |
| 00:17 | And there seems to be a syntax error in the script. | |
| 00:17 | rambutan joined #koha | |
| 00:18 | rangi | you ran it with bash eh? |
| 00:19 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 00:19 | Maybe not. | |
| 00:19 | Right now I'm trying to get some overdues to show up. | |
| 00:19 | Then I will try to run the script again. | |
| 00:32 | rangi | wtf http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=17598 |
| 00:33 | innovative are confused | |
| 00:33 | wizzyrea | i think they are creating a new consortium, is what it looks like to me |
| 00:34 | rangi | it was more the copyright thingy |
| 00:34 | (its the fork not koha btw too) | |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | right right |
| 00:34 | * wizzyrea | was just thinking that |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | re: geagua |
| 00:34 | rangi | yeah |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | uga* |
| 00:34 | jcamins | Definitely a fork. |
| 00:34 | wizzyrea | koha copyright. lulz. |
| 00:35 | it's the only one that has that | |
| 00:35 | * wizzyrea | catches up |
| 00:35 | wizzyrea | herp derp derp |
| 00:39 | jcamins | Returns is not Plack-compatible?!? |
| 00:41 | * jcamins | grouses. |
| 01:03 | jcamins | There are many good reasons the RM should use Plack. |
| 01:04 | Unfortunately, there is also one good reason s/he shouldn't: half the pages don't work. | |
| 01:04 | wahanui | okay, jcamins. |
| 01:04 | jcamins | there? |
| 01:04 | wahanui | hmmm... there is a lot of clean up that could be done. |
| 01:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1020: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1020/ |
| 01:08 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 7678: Adds extended patron attributes in patron reports | |
| 01:08 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7678: follow-up to pass QA | |
| 01:08 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7678: Adds extended patron attributes in patron reports | |
| 01:08 | * mjr: Bug 9407: patrons search should match substrings | |
| 01:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Statistics wizard: patrons |
| 01:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9407 minor, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , patrons search should match substrings | |
| 01:09 | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9343' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e48dc4e37ef3c8f45> / Bug 9343: handles the new format of Debarred <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]edc3e55848192eff8> / Merge branch 'bug_9263' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c418b26a7f3923c8 | |
| 01:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1021 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 01:11 | wizzyrea | golly I sure do like how koha looks with some boostrap elements. |
| 01:11 | boot* | |
| 01:17 | rangi | wahanui: we should use more MARC |
| 01:17 | wahanui | http://02varvara.files.wordpre[…]no-bear.jpg?w=800 |
| 01:17 | bag | rangi awesome! |
| 01:17 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 01:18 | rangi | wahanui: u mad? |
| 01:18 | wahanui | https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6[…]227072/h33EFA2F6/ |
| 01:18 | * wizzyrea | approves |
| 01:19 | wizzyrea | guess we're not trendy enough |
| 01:19 | j/k j/k | |
| 01:19 | rangi | why did the hipster burn his mouth? |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | >.> idk why |
| 01:20 | rangi | he drank his coffee before it was cool |
| 01:20 | eythian | heard that one already |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | ^^ the ultimate hipster. |
| 01:20 | rangi | here's one from atarau |
| 01:20 | knock knock | |
| 01:20 | jcamins | lol |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | who's there |
| 01:20 | wahanui | there is a lot of clean up that could be done. |
| 01:20 | rangi | door |
| 01:20 | wizzyrea | door who? |
| 01:20 | wahanui | rumour has it door is 6 months old, |
| 01:20 | rangi | door did a fart |
| 01:21 | bwahahaha | |
| 01:21 | wizzyrea | loool |
| 01:21 | rangi | the whole changes daily, but it's always did a fart |
| 01:21 | who even | |
| 01:22 | wizzyrea | soren's is "x rolled down the hall and ran into a rock" |
| 01:22 | eythian | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskRed[…]worst_joke_youve/ |
| 01:22 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:04 | bag | evening |
| 02:06 | rangi | hey bag |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Submitted my caching patches. |
| 02:11 | rangi | sweet |
| 02:12 | * rangi | adds them to his backlog of things to test |
| 02:13 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 02:14 | * jcamins | wanders off. |
| 02:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1021: SUCCESS in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1021/ |
| 02:16 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9263: Trim barcodes in offline circulation | |
| 02:16 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 9343: handles the new format of Debarred | |
| 02:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Trim barcodes in offline circulation |
| 02:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9343 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , SIP doesn't handle debarred date/status correctly | |
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| 02:31 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 02:39 | wizzyrea | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 02:39 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 21.0°C (3:00 PM NZDT on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.18 in 1022 hPa (Steady). |
| 02:39 | wizzyrea | I approve. |
| 02:44 | rangi | heh |
| 02:47 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 02:47 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -3.8°C (8:47 PM CST on January 22, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 02:47 | druthb | Miss this, wizzyrea? |
| 02:47 | eythian | http://imgur.com/VKSSBpi |
| 02:48 | druthb | It is colder than a mother-in-law's kiss here today. *shiver* |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | brr |
| 02:51 | I am sure I'll get my comeuppance :) | |
| 02:51 | maybe not to that precise degree. | |
| 02:52 | eythian: what is it? | |
| 02:52 | eythian | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01[…]-tunnel.html?_r=0 |
| 02:52 | 27 tons of cheese on fire! | |
| 02:52 | wizzyrea | holy smoked gouda! |
| 02:53 | it burned for 4 days! | |
| 02:53 | also I think I have had this cheese, it's pretty yummy. | |
| 02:53 | probably not so yummy whilst on fire. | |
| 02:54 | then again, you could just shout "Opa!" and be greek. | |
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| 06:46 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:52 | schnydszch | hello koha community, is it possible with koha 3.8.x to show barcodes of biblios in the results page? or there's some code to be added? thanks & good day. |
| 06:58 | magnuse | schnydszch: showing barcodes in result lists is not possible in any version |
| 06:59 | but 3.10 has a setting called OPACShowBarcode which shows the barcode in the detail view. example here: http://head.bibkat.no/cgi-bin/[…]pl?biblionumber=1 | |
| 06:59 | on the holdings tab there is a column for barcode | |
| 07:01 | and good morning #koha | |
| 07:09 | rangi++ for 3.10.2 and 3.8.9!! | |
| 07:13 | cait | rangi++ :) |
| 07:13 | morning magnuse :) | |
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| 07:32 | schnydszch | thanks magnuse. but i can't seem see the barcode from your example. |
| 07:34 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:36 | cait | schnydszch: that only applies to 3.10 and the detail page |
| 07:36 | normally users have no use for barcodes | |
| 07:46 | bbl :) | |
| 07:50 | magnuse | schnydszch: it shows the barcode as text, not as an image. and the barcode in the example i gave is simply "1" |
| 07:54 | lds joined #koha | |
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| 07:55 | drojf | good morning #koha |
| 07:56 | magnuse | hiya drojf |
| 07:56 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 07:56 | how is the summer going? :) | |
| 07:59 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:59 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:59 | magnuse | it's suddenly turned white... |
| 08:00 | and lots more white stuff is supposed to arrive in the coming week... | |
| 08:00 | @wunder folldal | |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:00 | magnuse | @wunder folldal, norway |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:00 | magnuse | @wunder rrs |
| 08:00 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -28.0°C (8:50 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -32.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:00 | magnuse | could have been worse, though :-) |
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| 08:02 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:02 | wahanui | what's up, gaetan_B |
| 08:04 | magnuse | hiya gaetan_B |
| 08:14 | kf joined #koha | |
| 08:14 | kf | back |
| 08:14 | schnydszch | ok magnuse, got it. actually the barcode if for the staffs. |
| 08:15 | is for the staffs | |
| 08:15 | so they can easily see the accession no./barcode from the search result instead of clicking the corresponding item | |
| 08:17 | lds joined #koha | |
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| 08:34 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 08:34 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.3°C (9:12 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:34 | drojf | magnuse: still warmer at your place ;) |
| 08:34 | magnuse | w00t! :-) |
| 08:36 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:36 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.9°C (9:35 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:36 | kf | @wunder boo |
| 08:36 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:36 | kf | I win :) |
| 08:39 | magnuse | :-/ |
| 08:39 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (9:30 AM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:40 | kf | hm ok... marseille wins :) |
| 08:40 | magnuse | @wunder mumbai |
| 08:40 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 29.0°C (1:40 PM IST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:40 | magnuse | :-) |
| 08:41 | kf | not sure mumbai counts |
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| 08:47 | Joubu | hello #koha |
| 08:47 | reiveune | hello |
| 08:48 | kf | hi Joubu and reiveune |
| 08:48 | reiveune | hi kf |
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| 08:49 | kf | morning paul_p |
| 08:50 | paul_p | hello kf. In bed with flu today (fortunately for you, it can't be sent by IRC) |
| 08:50 | kf | very fortunate |
| 08:50 | hope you feel better soon | |
| 08:51 | paul_p: I was talking to magnuse earlier about maybe advertising the hackfest in europe a bit more? | |
| 08:51 | paul_p | kf= it's a good idea. How could we do that ? |
| 08:52 | (I plan to send a mail to turkish guy that announced 1112 libraries migrating ;-) ) | |
| 08:52 | kf | maybe koha mailing list again and the newsletter? |
| 08:52 | or coudl be an entry on kc-org too maybe | |
| 08:52 | paul_p: also a good idea | |
| 09:14 | magnuse | any memcached experts around? it seems one of my installations has bad data in it's cache. is it possible to empty the cache for that instance and not for the others? |
| 09:18 | paul_p joined #koha | |
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| 09:33 | kf | hm |
| 09:33 | seems drojf has bad internet again | |
| 09:37 | oh | |
| 09:41 | magnuse | rangi: am i right in thinking that in order to clear up bad data in memcached for one koha instance i have to restart memcached completely? |
| 09:41 | rangi | do you know what bit is bad? |
| 09:42 | magnuse | something related to the frameworks |
| 09:42 | i get errors like Can't use string ("") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 1555. | |
| 09:42 | and $tagslib always seems to be involved | |
| 09:42 | rangi | you can telnet to it and delete the key |
| 09:42 | http://blog.elijaa.org/index.p[…]t-command-summary | |
| 09:43 | magnuse | how do i know whic key to delete? |
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| 09:43 | rangi | stats items |
| 09:44 | kf | magnuse: hmmm I think I saw a patch for something with tagslib |
| 09:44 | @query tagslib | |
| 09:44 | huginn | kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3142 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , standardize how OPAC and staff determine requestability |
| 09:44 | kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Authority subfileds definitions and Show/Show Collapsed/Hide option | |
| 09:44 | kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6018 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, julian.maurice, In Discussion , Batch modifitcation of items Enchancements | |
| 09:44 | kf: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Pre-filling items in cataloging | |
| 09:44 | rangi | it would probably be easier to just run flush |
| 09:44 | kf | hm more results than I expected, but they don't look helpful |
| 09:44 | rangi | flush_all |
| 09:45 | magnuse | rangi: that will affect all instances, right? |
| 09:46 | rangi | yup |
| 09:47 | magnuse | ok, better wait until this evening then, so i don't throw aout everyone who might be logged in |
| 09:47 | rangi | *nod* |
| 09:47 | magnuse | that is one downside to having sessions in memcached... |
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| 09:49 | vfernandes | hello |
| 09:49 | wahanui | hey, vfernandes |
| 09:49 | vfernandes joined #koha | |
| 09:50 | vfernandes | hi :) |
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| 09:53 | vfernandes | gerundio are you here? |
| 09:53 | gerundio | hey vfernandes, yes |
| 09:54 | vfernandes | nice... i was looking for your LDAP patch |
| 09:54 | i have one question | |
| 09:55 | why you did a anonymous bind when you can do a bind with the principal name and the password set in the koha-conf.xml | |
| 09:58 | gerundio | anonymous bind is very common |
| 09:58 | in LDAP authentication | |
| 09:58 | vfernandes | yes I know |
| 09:58 | gerundio | we use it in our faculty |
| 09:59 | and the way the LDAP auth was being done in Koha it didn't work | |
| 09:59 | the way I coded the patch both ways should work | |
| 10:00 | I don't recall the details of the implementation, a lot of water has passed under the bridge since I did it :D | |
| 10:02 | vfernandes | roger that :) |
| 10:02 | i'll try to sign off the patch today | |
| 10:04 | because the modification that I've done in my koha it's almost the same thing | |
| 10:04 | the difference is that I done the first bind with principal name | |
| 10:05 | gerundio | ok |
| 10:05 | and I'm signing off your UNIMARC field 100 language patch | |
| 10:05 | tested it yesterday | |
| 10:05 | vfernandes | nice :) |
| 10:06 | gerundio | btw, you made it for Koha v3.10? |
| 10:06 | vfernandes | i think it's very important to have those patches submitted soon as possible to master and to 3.8.9 and 3.10.3 |
| 10:06 | the bug is on every version of Koha | |
| 10:08 | gerundio | I know |
| 10:08 | I just found it weird to see the version assigned in the bug as being 3.10 | |
| 10:09 | vfernandes | really? i will change that |
| 10:09 | gerundio | btw, I made a patch to update the 100a field on all the existing records in the DB |
| 10:10 | I thought it could be useful to the community (it was for us) | |
| 10:10 | vfernandes | as patch you mean script right? |
| 10:10 | yes I think is useful to correct the previous submitted records | |
| 10:10 | gerundio | script yes |
| 10:11 | vfernandes | I think you should create a new bug and add the script as patch |
| 10:12 | gerundio | ok |
| 10:12 | I'm looking at the sign-off on patches article in the wiki | |
| 10:13 | I didn't use git to test it | |
| 10:13 | I downloaded the diff files and applyed them by hand | |
| 10:13 | with patch -p1 < patch.diff and so on | |
| 10:15 | vfernandes | I don't know how to sign off patches without git |
| 10:15 | gerundio | kf, jcamins_away, magnuse is my test valide this way? |
| 10:15 | vfernandes | LDAP auth worked fine gerundio |
| 10:15 | :) | |
| 10:15 | gerundio | vfernandes, in what koha version did you develop your patches for bug 8347? |
| 10:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
| 10:16 | vfernandes | last version... |
| 10:17 | wait... I've tested in 3.8.6 and in master code | |
| 10:17 | gerundio | I'm using 3.8.5 |
| 10:17 | vfernandes | *and with master code (future 3.12) |
| 10:17 | gerundio | and it worked fine too |
| 10:17 | vfernandes | it should work in 3.8. too |
| 10:18 | please sign off that patch... UNIMARC should be improved in Koha | |
| 10:18 | i will sign off your LDAP patch in a few minutes | |
| 10:23 | gerundio | signed off |
| 10:23 | wahanui | well, signed off is the queue the QA team should watch |
| 10:23 | gerundio | lets see what happens know |
| 10:24 | kf | sorry gerundio was not really here |
| 10:24 | reading back now | |
| 10:25 | gerundio | np kf, thanks :) |
| 10:28 | kf | hm |
| 10:28 | maybe not eon the bug the tests you did | |
| 10:28 | you could download the patch and sign-off manually, but tell what you did | |
| 10:29 | and then RM /QA can decide if another sign-off is needed | |
| 10:29 | but we don't have a lot of people who can test ldap patches | |
| 10:29 | so I think any test is good | |
| 10:30 | vfernandes | kf gerundio is testing my patch for bug 8347... i'm testing his patch for LDAP bug |
| 10:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8347 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Signed Off , Koha forces UNIMARC 100 field code language to 'fre' |
| 10:30 | kf | am ok |
| 10:30 | sorry, got confused | |
| 10:30 | and I still might be :) | |
| 10:30 | can you repeat the question you had? | |
| 10:30 | vfernandes | eheh |
| 10:31 | he apply the patch by hand (not using git) and tested | |
| 10:31 | everything worked fine but he didn't know how to sign off the patch without git | |
| 10:32 | so he gone to the bug page, commented and signed off the patch | |
| 10:33 | kf | vfernandes: that was the ldap patch or soemthing else? |
| 10:33 | vfernandes | bug 8347 |
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| 10:36 | gerundio | kf, not LDAP |
| 10:36 | that's the one I patched and vfernandes tested and is about to sign off | |
| 10:37 | kf | sorry lots of phone calls today |
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| 10:43 | vfernandes | damn I forgot how to signed off using git.... git bz apply XXXX and then? |
| 10:44 | drojf | test it ;) |
| 10:44 | vfernandes | i've tested... but now I want to commit the signed off |
| 10:44 | kf | still at phone |
| 10:44 | on phone | |
| 10:45 | drojf | vfernandes: git commit --amend -s (i think) |
| 10:46 | and then attach it | |
| 10:46 | better look at the wiki, i dont have a git here | |
| 10:47 | vfernandes | git commit --amend |
| 10:49 | that's it | |
| 10:49 | but now there is two patches | |
| 10:50 | can I put the first patch obsolete? | |
| 10:51 | gerundio - bug 7973 signed off | |
| 10:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7973 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Allow for new type of LDAP authentication |
| 10:52 | gerundio | vfernandes++ |
| 10:52 | vfernandes | gerundio++ |
| 10:54 | gerundio | weird thing happening... I'm trying to set up the zebra daemon on the new dev koha install |
| 10:55 | the koha-zebra-daemon settings such as KOHA_CONF, RUNDIR and LOCKDIR all have the correct values | |
| 10:56 | poiting to the path where I have untared the koha package | |
| 10:56 | but when I run start the daemon and check it via "ps aux | grep zebra" | |
| 10:56 | the arguments on the daemon show the defaults production like environment settings | |
| 10:57 | as KOHA_CONF was /etc/koha-conf.xml and so on | |
| 10:58 | vfernandes | looks like problems with system variables |
| 10:58 | maybe the zebra was already runnig | |
| 10:58 | gerundio | that's just strange, because all the variables are set in the daemon itself in /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 10:59 | I've stop and started it many times | |
| 10:59 | vfernandes | but when you stop the daemon the zebra proccess is closed? |
| 11:00 | kf | crazy day here |
| 11:00 | gerundio | yes |
| 11:00 | kf | um |
| 11:00 | any questons unanswered? | |
| 11:00 | gerundio | and now it just doesn't start |
| 11:01 | let me check the logs to see if I find anything there | |
| 11:01 | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml" | |
| 11:02 | kf maybe you can help with this one... any idea why I have a path set on KOHA_CONF in /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon | |
| 11:02 | but when I start the daemon he's looking for the file in /etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:05 | KOHA_CONF is correctly set in the environment variables too | |
| 11:06 | for both root and koha users | |
| 11:23 | kf | hm |
| 11:23 | have you taken a look at the file? | |
| 11:23 | I think there is a user/group noted in there | |
| 11:23 | the daemon script | |
| 11:23 | coudl that be a reason? | |
| 11:24 | magnuse | vfernandes: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation#Signing_off :-) |
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| 11:24 | gerundio | back... found the origin off the daemon issue I was experiencing: permissions |
| 11:25 | kf | ah |
| 11:25 | makes sense :) | |
| 11:25 | gerundio | the koha user didn't have permissions to read the paths set on the configurations |
| 11:25 | it's always the most basic stuff that we miss :s | |
| 11:27 | magnuse | @marc 084 |
| 11:27 | huginn | magnuse: A classification number from a scheme not covered by one of the other number fields. The field should not be used for classification numbers assigned from a source for which a subfield $2 source of number code would not be assigned. (Repeatable) [a,b,2,6,8] |
| 11:44 | vfernandes | magnuse thanks... i had already found it |
| 12:03 | slef | cait_lunch: it's a random selection of old bugs |
| 12:17 | gerundio | bug 9453 needs sign off |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Needs Signoff , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference |
| 12:17 | gerundio | vfernandes take a look at it since it relates to you own bug |
| 12:20 | vfernandes | as soon as possible :) |
| 12:20 | gerundio | thanks |
| 12:21 | btw, I'm going to start using the plugins to generate barcodes and inventory numbers | |
| 12:21 | I have a doubt concerning Koha to MARC mapping | |
| 12:22 | barcode is already mapped to field 995f like we talked last week | |
| 12:23 | vfernandes | talking about plugins - a plugin for authorities field 100 in UNIMARC would be nice |
| 12:23 | bug 8334 | |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8334 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Authority UNIMARC 100 field plugin |
| 12:23 | gerundio | now I want to map the inventory number (stocknumber field in the items table) to 995j |
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| 12:25 | gerundio | without the map for the stocknumber the values are stored in the more_subfields_xml collumn in the items table |
| 12:25 | when I create the map, the value remains there until I update the record (I'm guessing this one) | |
| 12:26 | on update the value is moved from the more_subfields_xml to the stocknumber collumn | |
| 12:26 | I'm thinking that a script to perform this operation for mapped fields would be very handy | |
| 12:26 | what's your opinion? | |
| 12:26 | vfernandes | there is a script for that |
| 12:27 | when you change a mapping you need to run it | |
| 12:27 | I don't remember the name | |
| 12:27 | gerundio | nice, that'll save me a lot of work :D |
| 12:27 | vfernandes | but it stats with rebuild |
| 12:27 | *starts | |
| 12:28 | gerundio | regarding your plugin for authorities |
| 12:28 | I'm not the person for it... you mention "anyone with more UNIMARC knowlegdes than me" | |
| 12:28 | I don't fit the description :D | |
| 12:28 | I'll look for that rebuild something script | |
| 12:28 | vfernandes++ | |
| 12:29 | off to lunch now | |
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| 12:29 | vfernandes | batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl |
| 12:29 | KOHA_HOME/bin/batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl -> that's the script you're looking for | |
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| 13:15 | cait_lunch | slef: drojf was wondering when you sent them, he was waiting for a new list :) |
| 13:15 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:21 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 13:21 | does someone know a reason why the password change button would not be shown in koha 3.6.10? | |
| 13:21 | looking at the code in git but I can't see a reason right now :( | |
| 13:21 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e48dc4e37ef3c8f45 | |
| 13:21 | jcamins_away | kf: changing the password is disabled by syspref? |
| 13:22 | kf | in staff? |
| 13:22 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 13:22 | Permissions? | |
| 13:22 | I thought you meant OPAC. | |
| 13:22 | kf | it shows up when we activate superlibrarian for the staff member |
| 13:22 | but I have no superlibrarian and I can see it. | |
| 13:26 | jcamins_away | Maybe permissions? |
| 13:26 | (i.e. the "permissions" permission) | |
| 13:26 | oleonard | kf: I just checked out 3.6.x and tried it with a superlibrarian and non-superlibrarian and saw the password button either way |
| 13:30 | kf: Do they have permission to edit patrons? | |
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| 13:32 | kf | oleonard: yep |
| 13:32 | I just found it | |
| 13:32 | 3.6.10 has can_user_staffaccess | |
| 13:32 | the file i was looking at earlier in git was the wrong one... apparently | |
| 13:33 | so now the question is if they can really not see the button for all users or only not for staff users | |
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| 13:34 | oleonard | what's all this about the RM getting a vacation? I don't think that's in the contract. |
| 13:34 | kf | oleonard: I agree :) |
| 13:35 | maybe he smuggled in some bonuses | |
| 13:35 | but it's cool | |
| 13:35 | we can use the time to really fill up his queue | |
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| 13:59 | tcohen_ | hi #koha |
| 14:04 | kf | hi tcohen |
| 14:06 | slef | kf: they're currently scheduled for every 6 days, but human-scheduled not cron. |
| 14:06 | tcohen_ | its been a while kf, how have u been? |
| 14:07 | kf | tcohen: I am fine - hoping the cold and darkness will go away soon |
| 14:08 | tcohen_ | cold and darness? |
| 14:08 | kf | darkness :) |
| 14:09 | we got snow and ice here | |
| 14:09 | and can't wait for the days to get longer now :) tired of foggy winter in Konstanz | |
| 14:10 | * tcohen_ | is looking in gmaps |
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| 14:12 | tcohen | kf, now i understand! |
| 14:12 | kf | big lake :) |
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| 14:23 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
| 14:23 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -9.4°C (8:23 AM CST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:24 | tcohen | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 14:24 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 32.0°C (11:00 AM ART on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 31%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:25 | tcohen | 41° difference! |
| 14:25 | rambutan | 32.0°C = tropical paradise :) |
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| 14:25 | magnuse | nah, too hot! :-) |
| 14:26 | tcohen | yeah, too hot. we have no sea here... |
| 14:26 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 14:26 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (2:50 PM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:32 | rambutan | http://www.zdnet.com/fedora-li[…]riadb-7000010156/ |
| 14:39 | oleonard | nengard: What is Bug 8266 about? |
| 14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8266 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove location from pull down on search |
| 14:39 | nengard | what about it? |
| 14:39 | that's the bug i commented on ;) | |
| 14:39 | not the one that says that shelving location is broken | |
| 14:40 | i'm wondering if the shelving location being broken was closed ? | |
| 14:40 | oleonard | I don't understand your description of the problem |
| 14:44 | vfernandes | gerundio: the patch for the script failed |
| 14:45 | kf | tcohen: how are yu? sorry - such a busy day here today |
| 14:45 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 14:45 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 1.7°C (3:45 PM CET on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:45 | druthb | @wunder 66046 |
| 14:46 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is -7.2°C (8:45 AM CST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:46 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 14:46 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -10.6°C (9:21 AM EST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:47 | oleonard | druthb: Colder-than-Norway high five! |
| 14:47 | kf | oleonard: ouch! |
| 14:47 | magnuse | :-) |
| 14:47 | druthb | I know, right? Life is not fair. |
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| 14:48 | druthb | @wunder 20852 |
| 14:48 | huginn | druthb: The current temperature in Twinbrook, Rockville, Maryland is -7.7°C (9:47 AM EST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.34 in 1027 hPa (Rising). |
| 14:48 | druthb | I'd be no better off in DC, except that I don't get called "sir" there as much. And the food is better. |
| 14:49 | gerundio | vfernandes, the script I submited for bug 9453? |
| 14:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Needs Signoff , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference |
| 14:50 | vfernandes | yes... the script works fine because I copied the code to a .pl in my installation and tested... but the patch didn't apply probably because I didn't added it with git |
| 14:51 | if you want I can submit the script using git but the script will be on my name | |
| 14:52 | kf | vfernandes: I think there is a way how you could change the author line... ith git |
| 14:52 | only not quite sure how that worked | |
| 14:52 | -a or something maybe | |
| 14:52 | vfernandes | ok... i will check it out |
| 14:52 | jcamins_away | git commit --author="Whoever..." |
| 14:52 | kf | ah right |
| 14:53 | "name <email>"? | |
| 14:53 | jcamins_away | Yup. |
| 14:53 | vfernandes | where should i put the script? |
| 14:53 | misc/maintenance? | |
| 14:54 | gerundio | vfernandes, I just added it as an attachment |
| 14:55 | vfernandes | that's why the patch don't apply with git |
| 14:55 | gerundio | go ahead, you can add it with your name |
| 14:55 | no harm comes to the world because of that | |
| 14:56 | vfernandes | jcamins and kf told me how to put your name |
| 14:56 | :) | |
| 14:56 | gerundio | the most important thing is that it works, gets tested and becomes available for the community |
| 14:56 | oleonard | Anyone have an opinion about whether the database structure change made by the patch on Bug 2969 is correct? |
| 14:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2969 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Report Name should be mandatory for saved reports |
| 14:56 | magnuse | gerundio++ |
| 14:56 | vfernandes | I tested and it worked |
| 14:56 | oleonard | I can re-implement it for T:T if it looks right |
| 15:00 | vfernandes | jcamins it didn't work... the patch was submitted with my name |
| 15:00 | jcamins_away | I do that all the time. |
| 15:01 | Look in the man page. I must've gotten it slightly wrong. | |
| 15:02 | vfernandes | don't worry... gerundio told that isn't a problem to be in my name |
| 15:03 | but can I signed off the patch even iwth my name? | |
| 15:04 | jcamins_away | Usually in this case we'd need both you and gerundio to sign off, you to confirm it's working, and gerundio to confirm that the script still works as it was supposed to. |
| 15:06 | vfernandes | gerundio please test the new patch |
| 15:09 | gerundio | I'm on it :) |
| 15:10 | give me just some minutes, I'm running the other script regarding the Koha to MARC mapping | |
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| 15:14 | alohabot | Hi mib_y2nu66, Welcome to #koha. Feel free to use the '/nick yourname' command to choose a different name. alohabot, wahanui, and huginn are bots. If you need any help, just ask - there's usually someone around to help :) |
| 15:16 | mib_y2nu66 | Good Morning |
| 15:18 | We changed our koha installation suse enterprise to debian, due problem performance cpu in PERL | |
| 15:19 | however, the improvement was not as noticeable | |
| 15:20 | jcamins_away | Same hardware? |
| 15:22 | mib_y2nu66 | yes sir |
| 15:23 | jcamins_away | If you're seeing performance issues, and it's not the OS, since Koha works for other people with similar systems, the only thing left I can think of is your data. |
| 15:23 | or hardware | |
| 15:23 | wahanui | hardware is Dell PowerEdge T410 |
| 15:23 | jcamins_away | forget hardware |
| 15:23 | wahanui | jcamins_away: I forgot hardware |
| 15:23 | jcamins_away | hardware? |
| 15:23 | Better. | |
| 15:24 | I am inclined to doubt it is your data, because your description of your library sounded very normal. | |
| 15:24 | 300k records, a few thousand users, right? | |
| 15:25 | mib_y2nu66 | 6 perl process consume 15% cpu everyone in our tests |
| 15:25 | hardware is vmware 4 GB RAM 2 cpus debian | |
| 15:26 | jcamins_away | I thought you upgraded to 8GB RAM? |
| 15:26 | mib_y2nu66 | we lauched test with 10 simultaneous users with 10 borrows everyone |
| 15:27 | no swapping with 4 GB | |
| 15:27 | jcamins_away | And when you had ten simultaneous users, there was a performance problem? |
| 15:27 | Or did you just observe that the CPU usage was high? | |
| 15:28 | Because high CPU usage is not a problem. | |
| 15:28 | mib_y2nu66 | yes we had 10 simultaneous users |
| 15:29 | in that moment there was a performance problem | |
| 15:30 | in this moment it is our load average: 8.37, 3.95, 5.12 top command | |
| 15:30 | with 10 users simultaneous | |
| 15:31 | is normal? | |
| 15:33 | jcamins_away | That seems higher than when I have benchmarked Koha. |
| 15:33 | Unless everyone clicked a link at exactly the same time. | |
| 15:33 | In which case, yes, that's normal. | |
| 15:33 | mib_y2nu66 | yes that´s right |
| 15:34 | we are using jmeter | |
| 15:34 | test tool | |
| 15:34 | they are doing borrows | |
| 15:34 | jcamins_away | Wait, so how do you know there is a performance problem? |
| 15:35 | Performance problem = system doesn't perform well enough for users. | |
| 15:35 | magnuse | doesn't really get where itemnumbers and barcodes fit into the concept of analytics... #marcmustdie |
| 15:36 | mib_y2nu66 | because we see high cpu in command top |
| 15:37 | jcamins_away | High CPU doesn't matter. |
| 15:37 | The CPU is there to be used! | |
| 15:37 | magnuse: it's so that you can have more than one "bib" connected to an item. | |
| 15:37 | mib_y2nu66 | when we launched our tests |
| 15:37 | Dyrcona | mib_y2nu66: High CPU isn't a problem, unless it is. Are your users complaining that transactions take too long to complete? |
| 15:39 | mib_y2nu66 | when we doing search in opac take 7 seconds in give results |
| 15:39 | until 10 seconds | |
| 15:40 | vfernandes | guys it's possible to change a message before sent it |
| 15:40 | ? | |
| 15:40 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: in the message queue? |
| 15:40 | mib_y2nu66 | this is our koha test link http://10.10.11.115/ |
| 15:40 | vfernandes | yes before being sent |
| 15:40 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: not without going into the database and doing it manually. |
| 15:41 | vfernandes | it's easy to change the content but the metadata will be incorrect |
| 15:41 | jcamins_away | mib_y2nu66: _that_ is a problem. |
| 15:42 | magnuse | jcamins_away: but when i do Edit > Link to host item (see bug 8595 for that :-) i'm asked to enter an item barcode, but the result is that the child record is linked to the parent *record* that that barcode "belongs to"... |
| 15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8595 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , link to 'host item' confusing |
| 15:42 | jcamins_away | magnuse: right. |
| 15:42 | What else would it do? | |
| 15:43 | The item record is contained in a bib record. | |
| 15:43 | magnuse | ask for a biblionumber - or let me search for a biblio. i think that would seem more logical to me... |
| 15:43 | but as long as it works... | |
| 15:43 | jcamins_away | Oh, you're thinking of the other analytics feature. |
| 15:43 | The "Link to host item" is for linking items. | |
| 15:43 | magnuse | huh? |
| 15:44 | jcamins_away | (that's "easy analytics") |
| 15:44 | The other one ("enhanced analytics") is for linking two bib records without any items being involved. | |
| 15:44 | magnuse | ah! |
| 15:44 | * magnuse | has missed something |
| 15:45 | jcamins_away | So if you want to link records without involving any items, you want... |
| 15:46 | Actually, you can't link to a parent. | |
| 15:46 | Only a child. | |
| 15:46 | (using enhanced analytics) | |
| 15:46 | magnuse | ooh there's a video on the interwebs with some dude called Jared Camins-Esakov talking about this stuff... |
| 15:46 | http://archive.org/details/Koh[…]ticRecordsAndKoha | |
| 15:47 | jcamins_away: do i have to change a syspref to use it? or do i just enter stuff into 773? or? | |
| 15:47 | mib_y2nu66 | with only one search opac-search consume 32% cpu use in top command |
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| 15:51 | jcamins_away | magnuse: to use which? |
| 15:51 | magnuse | jcamins_away: "enhanced analytics" |
| 15:51 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 15:51 | If you're just doing parent-child links, I don't think there's anything that needs turning on. | |
| 15:51 | Just view the parent record, and go to New->Create child | |
| 15:53 | gerundio | jcamins_away, regarding bug 9453 what do I have to do to sign it off too? I've tested the patch submitted by vfernandes and it works as expected |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Signed Off , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference |
| 15:53 | jcamins_away | gerundio: but you don't have a git installation? |
| 15:53 | gerundio | not using one at the moment |
| 15:54 | jcamins_away | If not, you can simply update the bug saying "I applied this to my standard installation and can confirm it works properly." |
| 15:54 | Or something to that effect. | |
| 15:54 | gerundio | ok |
| 15:55 | magnuse | jcamins_away: got it, i think! thanks! |
| 15:55 | gerundio | done |
| 15:55 | jcamins_away++ | |
| 15:56 | I ran the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script after mapping items->stocknumber to MARC field 995j | |
| 15:57 | the value remained in the items->more_subfields_xml and items->stocknumber didn't get populated | |
| 15:57 | what's the expected behavior? | |
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| 15:58 | gerundio | I've mentioned before that even though the field is 995j it gets stored in the more_subfields_xml as tag 999 field j |
| 15:58 | might that have anything to do with it? | |
| 15:58 | jcamins_away | gerundio: that sounds like a bug, yes. |
| 15:59 | gerundio | vfernandes told me before that the fact that tag 995 field values get stored as 999 is normal in UNIMARC |
| 15:59 | right vfernandes? | |
| 16:05 | kf | jcamins_away: hm I think it is like that, although it odesn't make sense |
| 16:05 | same for marc21 and the more_subfields_xml | |
| 16:05 | gerundio | on the other hand, looking now at the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl source code |
| 16:05 | I think it only updates tables biblio and biblioitems | |
| 16:05 | jcamins_away | kf: weird. |
| 16:05 | kf | gerundio: the thing is you haven't mapped it to a database column. the marc record should have it in the proper field and only in the db it shoudl appear in 999 |
| 16:05 | jcamins_away: exactly. | |
| 16:06 | gerundio | kf, lost you there |
| 16:06 | I ran the script after performing the map | |
| 16:06 | I mapped the tag 999 field j to items' stocknumber | |
| 16:07 | and the ran the script | |
| 16:07 | it's the right order, correct? | |
| 16:08 | kf | hm you shouldn't use 999 for mapping |
| 16:08 | use your normal item field | |
| 16:08 | 952 or 995 | |
| 16:08 | wahanui | 1019 |
| 16:08 | gerundio | sorry |
| 16:09 | I meant 995 | |
| 16:09 | kf | depending on your marc flavour :) |
| 16:09 | jcamins_away | 1 or 2 |
| 16:09 | 8 or 16 | |
| 16:09 | kf | ok |
| 16:09 | you map it | |
| 16:09 | jcamins_away | wahanui: 8 or 16 |
| 16:09 | wahanui | 24 |
| 16:09 | kf | then it shoudl work when adding new data |
| 16:09 | jcamins_away | 7 or 6 |
| 16:09 | gerundio | right |
| 16:09 | kf | but your problem is, that you want to move the data out of the marcxml? |
| 16:09 | jcamins_away | wahanui: 7 or 6 |
| 16:09 | wahanui | 7 |
| 16:09 | jcamins_away | Interesting. |
| 16:09 | wahanui | i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:09 | gerundio | yes, that's right kf |
| 16:10 | kf | hmm |
| 16:10 | gerundio | because I want to use the stocknumber generator plugin |
| 16:10 | kf | I have never used the script |
| 16:10 | what I woudl probably do is use sql and do a complete reindex | |
| 16:10 | gerundio | which looks for the max stocknumber in the items table |
| 16:10 | kf | I guess using a script is much better :) |
| 16:10 | gerundio | if I don't have the 995 j data stored there it won't catch my latest stocknumber |
| 16:10 | kf | i think the problem might be |
| 16:10 | gerundio | script sounds much better yes |
| 16:11 | kf | that the script might not cover item tables |
| 16:11 | or moving data around | |
| 16:11 | because the item data is not in the marc | |
| 16:11 | the script was bulit to allow you to remap bibliographic infrmation, but we removed the items from the xml | |
| 16:11 | so they stand alone now | |
| 16:11 | jcamins_away: does that make sense? | |
| 16:13 | jcamins_away | kf: it does, but that means that there needs to be a script for rebuilding the items table. |
| 16:13 | bag | morning |
| 16:13 | gerundio | jcamins_away, my thoughts exactly |
| 16:13 | since there's a feature to map items with marc | |
| 16:13 | I can try to it | |
| 16:14 | to ^ do ^ it | |
| 16:14 | jcamins_away | bag: how's the weather been recently? |
| 16:14 | gerundio | should it remain as batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl or a new script? |
| 16:15 | bag | begin of last week was cold - but lately nice and average |
| 16:15 | @weather 93101 | |
| 16:15 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Santa Barbra CA US, Santa Barbara, California is -0.6°C (7:49 AM PST on January 23, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 6%. Dew Point: -34.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:15 | jcamins_away | gerundio: I think it would be good to add items to the batchRebuildBiblioTables.pl script. |
| 16:15 | bag | hmm cold this morning I guess |
| 16:15 | jcamins_away | That makes more sense to me. |
| 16:16 | Looks like the weather in Palm Desert is going to be high fifties to low seventies next week. | |
| 16:16 | bag | I was in palm desert this last weekend |
| 16:16 | jcamins_away | How was the weather? |
| 16:17 | bag | got upto 78 degrees in the afternoon :) |
| 16:17 | jcamins_away | Not that the weather last weekend predicts what it will be like next week, but I figure it's just as good or better as a predictor than the forecasts. |
| 16:17 | Nice! | |
| 16:17 | bag | ah you are going there? |
| 16:18 | you should ride up the tram - that's pretty cool | |
| 16:18 | jcamins_away | Yeah, we're flying out Friday, and we'll be there until February 4. |
| 16:20 | bag: oooh, that looks neat! | |
| 16:21 | You can go skiing... a shame I don't know how to. | |
| 16:22 | Also snowshoeing. | |
| 16:22 | oleonard | jcamins_away: Try an eighties-movie-style ski-training montage, you'll be up to speed in no time |
| 16:22 | jcamins_away | oleonard: lol |
| 16:28 | kf | gerundio: maybe check if one of the other scripts is able to do it - I am mostly guessing here |
| 16:31 | gerundio | kf: will do |
| 16:47 | Joubu | good bye all o/ |
| 16:47 | jcamins_away: Thanks for your quick reply on bug 8089. I will certainly sign it off tomorrow! | |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8089 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Use Koha::Cache everywhere |
| 16:47 | oleonard | Bye Joubu |
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| 17:09 | oleonard | jcamins_away: I'm reminded of the old joke where the patient says to the doctor, "It hurts when I do this!" and the doctor replies "Don't do that." |
| 17:10 | jcamins_away | Me too. |
| 17:11 | slef | hrm? |
| 17:11 | oleonard | slef: the list conversation about logging in as database user |
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| 17:13 | slef | oleonard: not got to that mailbox yet today. In general, logging in as the database user has rescued things many many times, but I try not to use it much. If the ability goes away, we'd need another rescue tool. |
| 17:14 | oleonard: of course, *we* could probably use a db UPDATE command, but do you really want to be expecting the sort of people who log in as database user to do that? ;-) | |
| 17:15 | oleonard | Don't worry slef we're not talking about it going away |
| 17:15 | * oleonard | has been similarly rescued himself |
| 17:15 | jcamins_away | slef: I think the database user should not be able to use anything other than core functionality. |
| 17:16 | Just hide the acquisitions, serials, tools., etc. modules. | |
| 17:16 | kf | jcamins_away: I like that idea |
| 17:17 | slef | jcamins_away: in other words, userid 0 won't pass a test for superlibrarian any more, only some flags. |
| 17:17 | jcamins_away: if so, sounds good. | |
| 17:18 | jcamins_away | slef: right. |
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| 17:19 | jcamins_away | The idea being that the only things that the database user should be required for are related to patrons, catalogue, and cataloging (and maybe circ?). |
| 17:19 | However, I'm not implementing that, so it's just an idea. | |
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| 17:30 | gerundio | bug 9453 |
| 17:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9453 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, rolando.isidoro, Failed QA , Update records acording to the new UNIMARCField100Language system preference |
| 17:30 | gerundio | Marked as Failed QA. |
| 17:31 | the reasons for failure are the issues pointed in lines 69 and 71 or is the fact that "the script has to display the help if it is called without parameter"? | |
| 17:31 | rangi | all of the above |
| 17:32 | oleonard | Good morning rangi |
| 17:32 | rangi | morning oleonard |
| 17:33 | gerundio | rangi, that script was developed based on the existing one pointed to me by jcamins_away, touch_all_biblios.pl |
| 17:33 | rangi | yup |
| 17:34 | still needs to display the help, and not have perlcritic violations tho :) we don't want to introduce more technical debt | |
| 17:34 | jcamins_away | Yeah, a lot of the code in Koha is not actually very good. :( |
| 17:36 | vfernandes | who is the best person to talk about developments for label and patron cards creators? |
| 17:37 | gerundio | rangi, got it and will fix the issues ASAP |
| 17:37 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: you mean you want to commission someone to do work on it? |
| 17:37 | I don't know. | |
| 17:39 | vfernandes | I have some "needings" like: change the barcodes scales (on the cards and the labels), introduce images for labels and break callnumbers on labels with other character than the omission (i think it's space) |
| 17:39 | rangi | bug 8375 |
| 17:39 | wahanui | bug 8375 is surposed to fix something, and it's on the right track, but not sufficiant to make utf-8 work. |
| 17:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8375 normal, P5 - low, ---, matted-34813, In Discussion , Common diacritics not shown correctly when exporting batch label to PDF |
| 17:40 | rangi | vfernandes: the win is to ditch pdf ... its bad wrong and evil |
| 17:40 | and to do it with html/css instead | |
| 17:41 | or we could beat a dead horse for another 5 years and move no where :) | |
| 17:41 | thats my opinion anyway | |
| 17:42 | jcamins_away | rangi: but do you know anyone interested in doing the work? |
| 17:42 | rangi | not for free no |
| 17:42 | vfernandes | rangi I understand that PDF is less flexible than HTML/CSS but except somethings PDF works fine for me |
| 17:42 | jcamins_away | I meant for pay. |
| 17:43 | rangi | we would, but not in trying to band aid the pdf stuff |
| 17:43 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: there you go. rangi would be someone to talk to. :) |
| 17:43 | vfernandes | I only thing that labels should work more like the patron cards |
| 17:44 | in patron cards you can have different fonts, text spaces, images... | |
| 17:44 | in labels the layout is not that flexible | |
| 17:44 | rangi | they are fundamentally broken and work very badly for languages that include diacritics (and worse for non roman character sets) |
| 17:45 | and that's not the fault of the koha code, thats just the way pdf are | |
| 17:46 | vfernandes | characters like ã, à, ç... are working |
| 17:46 | rangi | not consistently across all systems they arent |
| 17:47 | anyway the upshot is, i have no desire to do any work on the current labels system :) | |
| 17:48 | vfernandes | I need to make some changes but I don't know the better way to do it |
| 17:48 | rangi | (built in pdf fonts only support latin-1 those diacritics are part of that) |
| 17:49 | vfernandes | for exemple: barcode scales numbers can be system preferences and the default character to break the callnumber too |
| 17:50 | I have labels images working in the labels but they are hardcoded... so there is the need of a interface to change that | |
| 17:55 | * rangi | wanders off for breakfast |
| 17:55 | reiveune | bye |
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| 17:58 | * magnuse | waves to paul_p |
| 17:58 | thinks there should be an optional way to force koha to put the biblionumber in 001 | |
| 17:59 | jcamins_away | magnuse: I agree! |
| 17:59 | It drives me batty that there isn't. | |
| 17:59 | magnuse | yay |
| 17:59 | (for the agreement, not the ensuing battiness) | |
| 17:59 | jcamins_away | magnuse: maybe the battiness is why I'm rewriting search. :P |
| 18:00 | magnuse | hehe |
| 18:00 | yay for the battiness too, then ;-) | |
| 18:02 | gerundio | rangi, what is the best way to test the script compliance against PBP? |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | perlcritic |
| 18:03 | wahanui | perlcritic is a bastard…… |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 18:04 | magnuse | heh |
| 18:05 | gerundio | my thoughts too |
| 18:05 | the bot got it right | |
| 18:06 | I ran it against it perlcritic directly with a POST request on a terminal | |
| 18:06 | I guess the severity is set too high | |
| 18:06 | it outputs a truck load of warnings | |
| 18:07 | how do you commonly use it? | |
| 18:07 | magnuse | gerundio: there is an official percriticrc file here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78defa4f4;hb=HEAD |
| 18:07 | s/percriticrc/perlcriticrc/ | |
| 18:09 | gerundio | so how can I run my script against percritic with those set of rules defined for koha? |
| 18:10 | magnuse | you can run "perlcriticrc --profile path/to/t/perlcriticrc" |
| 18:10 | see e.g. http://search.cpan.org/~thalje[…]18/bin/perlcritic | |
| 18:10 | or "perldoc perlcritic" | |
| 18:12 | gerundio | magnuse++ |
| 18:15 | only 1 occurence now: "require" statement with library name as string at line 26, column 12. Use a bareword instead. (Severity: 5) | |
| 18:15 | it refers to this line: eval { require "$FindBin::Bin/../kohalib.pl" }; | |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | You can ignore that. |
| 18:16 | gerundio | ;) |
| 18:16 | jcamins_away | That is an acceptable use of require. |
| 18:17 | gerundio | enough work for today |
| 18:17 | see you guys tomorrow | |
| 18:22 | magnuse | have fun gerundio |
| 18:24 | hm, so the "show analytics" link is shown only if leader position 7 = "s"? that seems wrong... | |
| 18:25 | jcamins_away | You could also display it for LDR/07=c |
| 18:25 | vfernandes | bye people... cya! |
| 18:25 | magnuse | collection? yeah, that might make sense! |
| 18:27 | melia | bugs.koha-community.org is not loading for me right now. is it just me? |
| 18:28 | jcamins_away | Works for me. |
| 18:28 | melia | oop there it goes. just slow I guess. thanks for checking. :) |
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| 19:06 | * cait | waves |
| 19:07 | rangi | back |
| 19:07 | cait | hey rangi |
| 19:10 | hm bit early | |
| 19:10 | it hasn't passed qa yet | |
| 19:23 | libsysguy | hey rangi you said Jenkens played nicely with selenium tests right? |
| 19:24 | rangi | it can be made to, you need a server with jenkins all set up on it tho, and then configure that as a jenkins slave, you also need to make the build install/upgrade a working koha so that you have something to test against |
| 19:25 | libsysguy | so you need to Jenkins servers? |
| 19:26 | rangi | we already have 2, we need more |
| 19:26 | libsysguy | I see |
| 19:26 | rangi | selenium is a pig to run headless |
| 19:27 | libsysguy | well I have started making modular tests for selenium to run on, so you can stack them to make whatever test you need |
| 19:27 | rangi | thats the hardest bit, getting that going a server that can run selenium, then jenkins can use that as one of it's slaves |
| 19:27 | course it needs a working koha to test against | |
| 19:27 | libsysguy | and I didn't know if I should commit them or put them somewhere else |
| 19:27 | jcamins_away | You could have a koha-selenium-library on github. |
| 19:28 | Or git.bws.com. Or gitorious. Or wherever. | |
| 19:28 | libsysguy | so jcamins_away you think separate repo is the way to go |
| 19:28 | I can handle that | |
| 19:29 | jcamins_away | Yes, because selenium tests are more likely to be regression tests that need to be run against many different versions. |
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| 19:30 | libsysguy | the other problem is cssr |
| 19:30 | or ccsr | |
| 19:30 | or whatever | |
| 19:32 | jcamins_away | Toggle syspref, repeat tests. |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | I think the ID's are different |
| 19:33 | so you have to have different CCSR tests…unless you are just clicking, then it looks for link text | |
| 19:33 | but element verification could be challenging with an all in one test | |
| 19:33 | jcamins_away | The IDs are different only in the headers. |
| 19:33 | The actual pages are all just from prog. | |
| 19:34 | libsysguy | ah okay |
| 19:35 | jcamins_away | Also, if it reaches the level of "features don't work," that makes it a bug. |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | you want jenkins to submit bugs now too…geez he's a butler not a slave :p |
| 19:36 | jcamins_away | No, I want _you_ to submit bugs. If there are bugs. |
| 19:36 | If the problem is that the test gives false failures, you should fix the test. :P | |
| 19:39 | libsysguy | haha gah I'm a programmer…you must have me confused with a QAA or something :p |
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| 19:40 | rangi | datadoctor: welcome committer 201 :) |
| 19:41 | datadoctor | Thanks! We are hard at work on another contribution. |
| 19:41 | rangi | excellent! |
| 19:42 | datadoctor | It's a small thing, but the patron secondary phone number and "other" phone number fields swap when a new patron is created. |
| 19:42 | Bug 9470 | |
| 19:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9470 major, P3, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Secondary and Other Phone Listings are reversed in patron record after creating |
| 19:45 | datadoctor | It's very exciting to be part of this big, wonderful project. |
| 19:45 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:45 | jatara | Hi, all. Do we have any step-by-step documentation on inventory/stocktaking? |
| 19:46 | jcamins_away | datadoctor++ |
| 19:46 | magnuse | datadoctor++ |
| 19:46 | jatara | datadoctor++ |
| 19:47 | magnuse | @karma datadoctor |
| 19:47 | huginn | magnuse: Karma for "datadoctor" has been increased 6 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 6. |
| 19:47 | datadoctor | I've got this jatara: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]en/inventory.html |
| 19:47 | * wizzyrea | was just about to link that - but it's not terrifically step by step. |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | it may be all we've got though |
| 19:48 | datadoctor | We are implementing a tablet - bluetooth scanner combo for inventory and shelf-scanning. |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | neat :) |
| 19:49 | jatara | Thanks. all. Would love to learn more about the tablet-bluetooth scanner |
| 19:53 | datadoctor | jatara - we liked the motorola cs3000 because of the low price and compact form factor and good reviews, but there are lots of choices |
| 19:54 | Most tablets are bluetooth ready, but you would want to make sure the tablet has bluetooth capability. | |
| 19:55 | Then you will have to register your tablet on the network, so you have staff-side access to Koha. | |
| 19:55 | wizzyrea | I love the nexus 7 I have. |
| 19:55 | datadoctor: that really depends on how your network is set up | |
| 19:56 | but that is certainly true in some cases | |
| 19:56 | datadoctor | "Individual configurations may vary." :D |
| 19:57 | jcamins_away | I need a barcode scanner. |
| 19:57 | * magnuse | would clean up all the uninitialized values etc in the tests, if he had the time... |
| 19:57 | datadoctor | We are not up and running with that yet, but it's on our priority list for Reference Dept. |
| 19:58 | We use Metrologic orbits at the checkout - the multiple scanning planes give you more angles you can scan at. | |
| 19:59 | Single plane scanners are OK if you are holding them, but multi-plane work a lot better on the desk, and scan better through plastic. | |
| 19:59 | * jcamins_away | was spoiled by working in libraries. |
| 20:00 | jcamins_away | Now that I work from home, I don't really need a super-nice barcode scanner, because I rarely need it. |
| 20:11 | oleonard | datadoctor: For future reference, you needn't mess with a bug's Priority setting because we don't really pay attention to it |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | I wonder if we should take it off |
| 20:12 | datadoctor | Thanks oleonard! I read the documentation on it, and didn't know if it was necessary. I don't think this is mission critical, but on our system we send text messages |
| 20:12 | * magnuse | bids #koha a good night or other time of the day |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | gnite magnuse |
| 20:12 | datadoctor | to the secondary number, so the bug affects how our patrons are notified. |
| 20:13 | rangi | cya magnuse |
| 20:13 | oleonard | datadoctor: The trivial to blocker setting we look at. P5-P1 we don't. |
| 20:15 | datadoctor | jcamins_away - Unitech makes some super-cheap scanners, datalogic slightly better and the metrologic voyagers are good and not too expensive. try to find one used if you are just using it for testing. |
| 20:16 | We accidentally ordered our last scanner with a "powered" USB cord - it was a very weird plug: http://www.poweredusb.org/whatispusb.html | |
| 20:16 | jcamins_away | Very weird. |
| 20:17 | Did you manage to connect it to the computer? | |
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| 20:18 | trea | kia ora |
| 20:22 | datadoctor | I thought about using a USB extender, but to be on the safe side, I had the vendor swap the cable for regular USB. |
| 20:24 | the odd thing is that the scanner works fine with regular USB power, no power cord required, so not sure why they shipped it with the weird cable...learned something new! | |
| 20:32 | * chris_n | wonders what's hard to understand about "it won't work... ever"? |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | :/ |
| 20:36 | cait | chris_n: I think it's good people won't accept that for an answer :) |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | well that is probably how all progress comes about |
| 20:36 | cait | maybe point to the bug? |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | there must be a solution, we just don't know what it is yet. |
| 20:36 | cait | wizzyrea: yep, that was what I was thinking :) |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | (and it's frustrating because the current solution won't work... ever) |
| 20:39 | cait | oleonard is in a patch frenzy |
| 20:40 | oleonard | I'm past the halfway point in my tablesorter massacre |
| 20:40 | jcamins_away | oleonard++ |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea: no, we know what the solution is. | |
| 20:41 | cait | oleonard+++ |
| 20:41 | jcamins_away | Use HTML + CSS |
| 20:41 | cait | oleonard: do you think there is a chance something bootstrappy could be added to 3.12? |
| 20:41 | oleonard | I still prefer the simplicity of the old tablesorter plugin for most things, but since it doesn't seem to be developed anymore... |
| 20:41 | cait | like the more accessible menus? |
| 20:41 | jcamins_away | What we don't know is where the funding for that development would come from. |
| 20:42 | oleonard | cait: Now that the licensing issue is out of the way I don't see why not. |
| 20:42 | cait | that would be quite awesome |
| 20:42 | oleonard | Someone remind me of the 3.12 release date? |
| 20:42 | cait | jcamins_away: see? |
| 20:43 | was telling jared tody he needs to remind people of the freeze dats | |
| 20:43 | (including me) | |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | jcamins_away: funding for what |
| 20:43 | for html + css instead of pdf or bootstrap | |
| 20:43 | cait | rewrite of lablemodule for css html I tihnk |
| 20:43 | label | |
| 20:43 | gr. can't type | |
| 20:44 | * wizzyrea | has some additional styling work done on the bootstrap menus |
| 20:44 | cait | wizzyrea: is there a chance you could ask your accessibility expert ot test it wiht a screenreader? |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | and our student, who is *technically* a design student with an interest in IT, has a real interest in doing more bootstrap work. |
| 20:45 | cait | cool :) |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | cait: sure, we can ask him. I can tell you though that if you can successfully navigate through it, and the links have appropriate context and/or ARIA regions, that it will be fine. |
| 20:45 | successfully navigate through with a keyboard. | |
| 20:45 | I mean | |
| 20:45 | cait | got you :) |
| 20:46 | oleonard | So, uh... What are the 3.12 freeze dates? |
| 20:46 | What kind of menu styling wizzyrea? | |
| 20:46 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: HTML + CSS |
| 20:46 | wizzyrea | overriding the bootstrap CSS to make it look a bit more like it does now |
| 20:47 | instead of the steel grey of default bootstrap | |
| 20:47 | oleonard | wizzyrea: File a bug and post screenshots? |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | adding down carats to the dropdown |
| 20:47 | there is a bug | |
| 20:47 | one sec | |
| 20:48 | bug 9420 holds the original work of corey | |
| 20:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9420 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Work on Bootstrap for Koha |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | and I did some yesterday on it |
| 20:48 | but I haven't submitted it back | |
| 20:48 | yet | |
| 20:51 | oleonard | Gawd I hate the suggestions management interface |
| 20:52 | rangi | id be happy if 3.12 introduced no new features, just fixed things (like the search stuff) and all our UX issues |
| 20:54 | and then 3.14 would be the opac release | |
| 20:54 | * rangi | dreams |
| 20:54 | * jcamins_away | thinks that would be a great idea. |
| 20:54 | rangi | if we stop adding retarded 'features' from legacy ils ... the world would be a nicer place |
| 20:54 | jcamins_away | There are many bugs that could use fixing. |
| 20:55 | rangi | *nod* |
| 20:55 | oleonard | that'll never work, what with the 3.12 feature freeze coming up in only three weeks. |
| 20:55 | cait | rangi: keen on bootstrap because of better accessibility |
| 20:55 | will take it in steel grey too :) | |
| 20:56 | rangi | oleonard: like i said, no new features |
| 20:56 | fixing the UX isnt a feature its a bugfix | |
| 20:56 | i dont even see bootstrap as a new feature either | |
| 20:56 | oleonard | rangi: But with the 3.12 feature freeze four months away we have plenty of time for new features! |
| 20:56 | cait | 3 weeks???? |
| 20:57 | eythian | hi |
| 20:57 | cait | oleonard: now you really confused me |
| 20:57 | oleonard | cait: I'm going to keep throwing out random timeframes until someone corrects me |
| 20:57 | rangi | cait: i think he is trying to :-) |
| 20:57 | cait | oh |
| 20:57 | good plan | |
| 20:57 | rangi | only jcamins_away knows the answer :) |
| 20:57 | jcamins_away | March 22. |
| 20:58 | cait | and it worked |
| 20:58 | jcamins_away | The timeline is exactly the same as what it was when I announced the timeline prior to being elected. |
| 20:58 | cait | that's right after the hackfest in marseille |
| 20:58 | so not a bad timing | |
| 20:58 | * jcamins_away | has been contemplating moving it a bit earlier, so the hackfest is post-feature freeze. |
| 20:58 | jcamins_away | But as of right now, it remains March 22. |
| 20:58 | oleonard | jcamins_away: So you don't get inundated at the last minute? |
| 20:59 | wahanui: Koha 3.12 feature freeze is 22 March 2013 | |
| 20:59 | wahanui | OK, oleonard. |
| 20:59 | jcamins_away | oleonard: that, and because there are a gazillion bugs that need fixing. What better use for developers than, oh, I don't know, fixing them? :P |
| 20:59 | Fixing the bugs, not the developers. | |
| 20:59 | Developers have personality so fixing is unnecessary. | |
| 21:01 | rangi | i dunno |
| 21:01 | that rangi guy is a dick | |
| 21:01 | oleonard | :P |
| 21:01 | trea | heh |
| 21:02 | eythian | wahanui: that rangi guy |
| 21:02 | wahanui | eythian: excuse me? |
| 21:02 | eythian | aww didn't work :) |
| 21:02 | rangi | heh |
| 21:04 | cait | feature freeze is march 22nd |
| 21:04 | shortening that a bit :) | |
| 21:04 | feature freeze? | |
| 21:04 | wahanui | feature freeze is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Roadmap_to_3.8 |
| 21:04 | cait | wahanui: forget freature freeze |
| 21:04 | wahanui | cait, I didn't have anything matching freature freeze |
| 21:05 | cait | forget feature freeze |
| 21:05 | wahanui | cait: I forgot feature freeze |
| 21:05 | cait | feature freeze is march 22nd 2013 |
| 21:05 | feature freeze? | |
| 21:05 | wahanui | somebody said feature freeze was march 22nd 2013 |
| 21:05 | cait | hah! |
| 21:05 | * jcamins_away | leaves for good. |
| 21:05 | jcamins_away | Have a good evening. |
| 21:06 | cait | bye jcamins_away :) |
| 21:11 | oleonard | why isn't there a roadmap to 3.12? |
| 21:16 | cait | hm not sure |
| 21:16 | like what? | |
| 21:16 | wahanui | i guess like is done all the time in the Lua community |
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| 21:16 | wizzyrea | forget like what |
| 21:16 | wahanui | rumour has it like is done all the time in the Lua community |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | forget like |
| 21:17 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot like |
| 21:17 | oleonard | cait: Like the wiki page wahanui referenced above, for 3.8 |
| 21:18 | cait | guess because we never manage to stick to it |
| 21:18 | but actually that one doesn't look too bad | |
| 21:18 | maybe we could run the rlease note scripts now and then | |
| 21:18 | and put the feature list on a wiki page | |
| 21:20 | oleonard | I guess the information jcamins referenced above is here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]posal_for_RM-3.12 |
| 21:21 | ...although without specific dates. | |
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