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| 01:04 | cjh | fwiw the difference is the heading level for "The barcode was not found" |
| 01:05 | jcamins | cjh: yeah, I didn't have a preference about heading level. |
| 01:09 | cjh | \o/ |
| 01:09 | jcamins: was just checking :) | |
| 01:18 | eythian | my $sql = $input->param('sql'); # FIXME: use sql from saved report ID#, not new user-supplied SQL! |
| 01:18 | :< | |
| 01:27 | jcamins | Ouch! |
| 02:12 | bag | boring kind of game |
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| 02:34 | * MrAgent075 | just made 2 bugs go away. He is very Happy with himself. |
| 02:34 | jcamins | MrAgent075++ |
| 02:34 | bag: perhaps you're in the mood to sign off? :) | |
| 02:34 | wizzyrea | ping jcamins |
| 02:34 | bug 9179 | |
| 02:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9179 trivial, P5 - low, ---, agent.075, Signed Off , Incorrect capitalization in serials-collection.pl |
| 02:35 | * wizzyrea | signed it off |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | it's super trivial. |
| 02:35 | but ... new developer :D | |
| 02:35 | jcamins | Once I've finished writing this proposal I will take a look. :) |
| 02:36 | wizzyrea | <3 thank you |
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| 02:38 | eythian | proprosal schmoposal |
| 02:38 | wizzyrea | WE HAVE PRIDE AT STAKE HERE!!! |
| 02:38 | mahara is winning :( | |
| 02:38 | ok ok ok | |
| 02:44 | jcamins we just lost :( | |
| 02:44 | lol | |
| 02:45 | jcamins | wizzyrea: bribe the Mahara team with cookies. |
| 02:46 | eythian | and poison those cookies. |
| 02:46 | jcamins | lol |
| 02:50 | MrAgent075 | soo evil... xD |
| 03:08 | * wizzyrea | has no shame |
| 03:08 | makes poison cookies | |
| 03:10 | * MrAgent075 | asks if he shall deliver the 'goods'. |
| 03:11 | * wizzyrea | laughs evilly |
| 03:11 | ibeardslee | louder please |
| 03:11 | wizzyrea | looool |
| 03:25 | ibeardslee | looks like koha is aiming for the bronze medal |
| 03:28 | wizzyrea | WHAT uncool. |
| 03:36 | the koha app looks to get some nice improvements though, kinda excited about that | |
| 03:49 | jcamins | Spec's done. |
| 03:49 | And it's eleven. | |
| 03:59 | rangi | ibeardslee: tahts cos there is no peer review, or qa, or release manager for the android project ... they should get a 3 day handicap |
| 03:59 | ;) | |
| 04:01 | jcamins | And mahara gets a handicap for having a release team in your time zone. |
| 04:01 | ibeardslee | oh and does that mean we should postdate a handcap for koha from the first academy for having the RM in the same room? ;) |
| 04:03 | rangi | nope, cos it still had to get a sign off and a qa signoff .. so that just means we were even with mahara at that point :) |
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| 04:31 | jcamins | Okay, five patches that passed QA for me to deal with next time I'm at a computer. |
| 04:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #254 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 04:31 | rangi | sweet |
| 04:31 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_9215' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f2f0f300a07bc0f8e> / Bug 9215 - non translatable string in manage-marc-import <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e33e308b2c3a9be6e> / Merge branch 'bug_9182' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=e6419 |
| 04:32 | jcamins | And if I run out, there are lots of bugs sitting at signed off. |
| 04:33 | I could've sworn I pushed bug 7067. | |
| 04:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , allow patron self registration via the opac |
| 04:34 | jcamins | Oh, hey. |
| 04:34 | I did. | |
| 04:37 | * jcamins | grouches about people ignoring his dictates. |
| 04:38 | calls it a night and heads for bed, still grumbling. | |
| 04:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1007 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 05:35 | rangi | hmm running out of space on jenkins |
| 05:35 | * rangi | rejigs some things |
| 05:51 | rangi | hmmm |
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| 06:15 | ibeardslee | ultimately the Academy is all win for all |
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| 06:22 | rangi | yep, i was just teasing |
| 06:28 | cait | morning rangi |
| 06:30 | rangi | hi cait |
| 06:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #255 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 06:35 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:37 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 06:37 | wahanui | magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 06:37 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 06:37 | @wunder boo | |
| 06:37 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:38 | magnuse | huginn: you could also mention that my whole world is pretty much glazed with rain that has frozen on the ground... |
| 06:38 | huginn | magnuse: downloading the Perl source |
| 06:42 | cait | morning magnuse :) |
| 06:42 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 06:43 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -4.0°C (7:40 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:43 | magnuse | hiya cait |
| 06:43 | cait | brr |
| 06:44 | * magnuse | sends cait some logs for the fire |
| 06:45 | cait | hm and a fireplace too? :) |
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| 06:49 | magnuse | cait: sure! |
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| 07:55 | reiveune | hello |
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| 08:02 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:08 | rangi | hi reiveune and gaetan_B |
| 08:09 | reiveune | hi rangi, magnuse :) |
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| 08:14 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #255: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/255/ |
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| 08:17 | magnuse | hiya reiveune |
| 08:17 | * kf | waves at #koha |
| 08:17 | * magnuse | waves back |
| 08:17 | magnuse | oops, that was a quick fail for 3.10.x... |
| 08:18 | kf | hm? |
| 08:18 | rangi | yep |
| 08:18 | magnuse | kf: Project Koha_3.10.x build #44: FAILURE in 29 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/44/ |
| 08:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #45 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #43 2 days 13 hr ago) |
| 08:20 | magnuse | rangi: side effect of your rejigging? :-) |
| 08:20 | rangi | yeah, clearing out space, it will come right |
| 08:22 | * magnuse | did not have any doubts about that :-) |
| 08:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1008: ABORTED in 1 hr 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1008/ |
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| 08:52 | magnuse | @wunder røros, norway |
| 08:52 | huginn | magnuse: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 08:52 | magnuse | @wunder rrs |
| 08:52 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Roros Lufthavn, Norway is -32.0°C (9:20 AM CET on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -36.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:52 | magnuse | yay |
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| 09:11 | H | Morning Koha |
| 09:13 | question : In the advanced search -- more options --- is the search for list changable ? ... can i add/remove options somewhere ? | |
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| 09:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #257 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #253 2 days 13 hr ago) |
| 09:49 | gerundio | H, sorry, can't figure out what you mean "seach for list", care to explain? |
| 09:58 | H | ok |
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| 10:00 | H | in advaced search -> more options you get -> 3 dropdown boxes with keyword in it ... can i change the ist in the dropdown box |
| 10:00 | haris | hello to everyone |
| 10:00 | H | list |
| 10:00 | hey | |
| 10:01 | or is that always that list | |
| 10:01 | as i dont use 2 or 3 of them putting them off would be handy :) | |
| 10:03 | haris | I would like to ask something. I have install koha 3.8.6 in debian and I can't start the service of zebra in /etc/init.d/"name of daemon" |
| 10:03 | what can I do ? | |
| 10:10 | gerundio | H, sorry for the delay, I'm cought up in some tasks here |
| 10:10 | it seems that the default behavior of the advanced search feature | |
| 10:11 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 10:11 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #257: FIXED in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/257/ | |
| 10:11 | Chris Cormack: Bug 7143 updating history and about page | |
| 10:11 | gerundio | your question, if I understand it right, is if it's possible to change the default value of the 1st combo to something else? |
| 10:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 10:12 | gerundio | I don't think it's possible to customize the advanced search form like that |
| 10:13 | besides having 3 combos is one of the things that make this an advanced search | |
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| 10:13 | gerundio | ultimately you could hide it with some javascript/CSS I guess |
| 10:15 | H | ok thx for reacting its not a disaster prob. no one goes that deep |
| 10:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #46 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #43 2 days 15 hr ago) |
| 10:23 | magnuse | @later tell wizzyrea: you might want to update your entry on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars :-) |
| 10:23 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:27 | haris | the problem is that the daemon can't start, but when i run the command zebrasrv-2.0 -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml the zebra starts but when i close the terminal, closes too the zebra server. I read a thread how to daemonize zebra create symbolink link to /etc/init.d with no success |
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| 10:41 | magnuse | haris: how are you doing the installation? packages (recommended), tarball, git? |
| 10:43 | haris | I have done an upgrade from 3.0.0 to 3.8.6 doing apt-get install koha-common |
| 10:53 | any idea | |
| 10:53 | ? | |
| 11:01 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 11:01 | Project Koha_3.10.x build #46: FIXED in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/46/ | |
| 11:02 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 11:03 | haris: if you are using the packages you could try the commands provided by koha-common: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ges#Zebra-related | |
| 11:03 | "sudo koha-start-zebra" would be the most relevant one, i guess | |
| 11:04 | on the command line you can do "man <command-name>" for up to date instructions on how to use the commands | |
| 11:05 | haris | i have done this command "sudo koha-start-zebra" without success |
| 11:05 | magnuse | any error messages? |
| 11:05 | haris | in ps aux | grep zebra, does not show anything |
| 11:06 | when i typed the "sudo koha-start-zebra" command, there was no error | |
| 11:07 | it was like nothing done | |
| 11:07 | magnuse | try "sudo koha-stop-zebra"? |
| 11:07 | haris | i tried sudo koha-restart-zebra |
| 11:07 | the message was that no process is running | |
| 11:08 | magnuse | oh, you might have done it right, but i forgot to point out that all those commands should have the name of the instance at the end |
| 11:08 | "sudo koha-start-zebra <instancename>" | |
| 11:08 | so "sudo koha-start-zebra mylib" if your instance is called "mylib" | |
| 11:09 | haris | what we call instance? |
| 11:10 | magnuse | you gave it a name when you did "koha-create" |
| 11:10 | haris | "sudo koha-start-zebra <instancename>" |
| 11:11 | i did this and it appeared a message that zebra server started | |
| 11:11 | but when I type ps aux | grep zebra | |
| 11:11 | does not show anything except the grep zebra | |
| 11:11 | magnuse | hm, did you create in instance to begin with? |
| 11:12 | if you never ran "koha-create" there will be no zebra to start or stop | |
| 11:13 | try "sudo ls /etc/koha/sites/" | |
| 11:13 | and "sudo koha-list" | |
| 11:13 | haris | ok |
| 11:14 | nothing appeared | |
| 11:14 | I don't remember if I did "koha-create" | |
| 11:14 | I just find the system as it was and I upgraded | |
| 11:15 | magnuse | if those two commands gave no output you have not created any instances |
| 11:15 | haris | is it necessary to create instances? |
| 11:15 | magnuse | ok. but you can't just upgrade from 3.0 to an installation running off koha-common |
| 11:16 | let me see if i can find something oon the wiki | |
| 11:16 | haris | ok. thank you very much |
| 11:16 | I'll be back in a while | |
| 11:16 | thanks again | |
| 11:17 | magnuse | haris: these are some notes i took when i moved an installation from a "regular install" (your 3.0 installation) to the packages (koha-common): http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 11:18 | it's probably incomplete and might be a bit outdated, but it should give you an idea of the kinds of operations invoved | |
| 11:18 | *involved | |
| 11:18 | * magnuse | gotta run |
| 11:19 | haris | this is what I done in upgrade |
| 11:19 | i follow this guide of the link you send me | |
| 11:20 | i think that I have an instance that is just called "koha" | |
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| 11:21 | kf | Joubu++ |
| 11:21 | thx for the patch for 9391 | |
| 11:24 | findus | Hi. does anybody know why my koha-conf.xml has a 'in' extension on it.? " /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml.in" |
| 11:25 | kf | findus: hm sorry, never seen that |
| 11:26 | findus | No matter what pc I installl the live-dvd on... strange |
| 11:26 | kf | hm which live dvd are you using? |
| 11:26 | findus | the newest |
| 11:27 | kf | sorr,y there are a few people who have provided live dvds |
| 11:27 | findus | 3.10 right? |
| 11:27 | kf | so I don't know what the newest is :) |
| 11:27 | could it be an option for you to install using the packages instead? | |
| 11:27 | it's very comfortable | |
| 11:27 | packages? | |
| 11:27 | wahanui | somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 11:27 | kf | on which OS are you installing? |
| 11:28 | findus | Well i comes fully loaded with xubuntu |
| 11:28 | kf | where did you download it from? |
| 11:29 | findus | http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ |
| 11:30 | kf | hm |
| 11:30 | I am surry, it might be a change they made | |
| 11:31 | is it the only file? | |
| 11:31 | findus | do you know where to dl an older version? |
| 11:31 | kf | I would recommend using the packages really |
| 11:31 | findus | no |
| 11:31 | kf | using 3.10 is totally the right version |
| 11:31 | findus | there are lots' |
| 11:31 | kf | what do you want to use it for? |
| 11:32 | koha I mean | |
| 11:32 | findus | Ist for a local school.. |
| 11:32 | kf | htere have been lots of live dvds and cds in the past |
| 11:32 | the problem with them is that we (the developers) are not aware how they work | |
| 11:32 | so if you come here with a question regariding the installation | |
| 11:33 | it's always a bit hard to tell | |
| 11:33 | for a production system I would take some time and take a look at alternatives beside the live cds | |
| 11:33 | but that's my opinion :) | |
| 11:34 | findus | alternatives? :) |
| 11:34 | kf | package installation, git installation, tarball installation |
| 11:34 | where packges are really most comfortable for updating | |
| 11:34 | where are you located? | |
| 11:34 | findus | oh no :d |
| 11:34 | :D | |
| 11:34 | Denmark | |
| 11:35 | kf | ah |
| 11:35 | I am in germany :) | |
| 11:36 | findus | it all started with getting the languages files to work... |
| 11:36 | kf | with the live dvd? |
| 11:36 | findus | yep |
| 11:36 | kf | ah so you had it working once? |
| 11:36 | findus | yes on a older version |
| 11:36 | kf | the koha installtion I mean? |
| 11:36 | ah ok, so this is an update? | |
| 11:36 | findus | different pc too |
| 11:37 | kf | ah ok |
| 11:37 | which version is the older version? | |
| 11:37 | findus | hmmm.. |
| 11:37 | 3.4 i think | |
| 11:37 | kf | ah ok |
| 11:37 | not that old then :) | |
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| 11:37 | findus | but I can't find the cd' |
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| 11:37 | findus | :( |
| 11:37 | kf | and you installed it from cd before? |
| 11:37 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 11:38 | kf | hi drojf |
| 11:38 | findus | hi |
| 11:38 | drojf | hi kf |
| 11:38 | kf | may I introduce you to findus from demark? |
| 11:38 | findus | yep |
| 11:38 | kf | he is struggling with the live dvd |
| 11:39 | findus: what's the blocker for you to using th epackages? | |
| 11:39 | drojf | hi findus. why are you using a live dvd? |
| 11:39 | findus | newbie' |
| 11:39 | :) | |
| 11:40 | drojf | do you have experience with linux? |
| 11:40 | findus | actually i did try the manual way |
| 11:40 | not much' | |
| 11:40 | but I can follow a discription | |
| 11:40 | :) | |
| 11:40 | drojf | :) |
| 11:41 | do you have a linux server you can use? preferably running debian linux? | |
| 11:41 | findus | yep |
| 11:41 | drojf | then a package installation should be easy to do :) |
| 11:41 | packages? | |
| 11:41 | wahanui | well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 11:41 | findus | a fujitzu primergy tx1000 someting |
| 11:42 | kf | findus: it's really easy with some help and it will save you headaches long term :) |
| 11:42 | findus | Last time i got stuck on how to bring up the admin page.. |
| 11:42 | drojf | that wiki page is not 100% up to date but 3.8 ("oldstable") is what you would be looking for at the moment i suppose |
| 11:43 | we can help with that | |
| 11:43 | findus | thanks :) I only got the "It works page showing" |
| 11:44 | drojf | then you need to disable the default page of apache |
| 11:44 | findus | ohh |
| 11:45 | will the koha page show then? | |
| 11:45 | kf | a2dissite default |
| 11:45 | findus | admin page? |
| 11:46 | But thanks, I'll get right on it :) | |
| 11:47 | kf | we can try to help if you run into problems |
| 11:47 | findus | That's nice. Thanks :) |
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| 12:04 | * magnuse | waves to findus (from norway) |
| 12:05 | magnuse | i'm pretty sure koha-conf.xml.in is a template that is used to create koha-conf.xml files |
| 12:08 | findus | I think you're right... Wonder why it doesn't complete the installation... |
| 12:10 | magnuse | are you using koha-create to create an instance, or is that done for you? |
| 12:10 | findus | Anyway. I'm trying the manual way. With ubuntu 12.04.1 and koha 3.10. Well see hoe far I get :) |
| 12:10 | magnuse | yay! |
| 12:10 | findus | it has been done |
| 12:11 | well it should have ;) | |
| 12:12 | magnuse | ah |
| 12:13 | koha-list should tell you if there are any instances | |
| 12:16 | findus | hmm... It was done in the earlier version, and the guide I've found doesn't mention anything about it so..... Anyboby know any good and thorough guides. |
| 12:17 | := | |
| 12:17 | :) | |
| 12:18 | A tiny link maybe.. :) | |
| 12:18 | kf | does it mean it worked? or where are you stuck now? |
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| 12:20 | findus | No I have decided to do it from the beginning... I'm a bit slow ;) |
| 12:20 | All manually | |
| 12:20 | learn it the hard way :s | |
| 12:22 | haris | Can I ask something? |
| 12:22 | findus | ask away |
| 12:22 | :) | |
| 12:22 | magnuse | for installing packages ion ubuntu: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages |
| 12:23 | jcamins_away | packages? |
| 12:23 | haris | I have done ps aux | grep zebra and I have some results. Can we find what is the command of zebra server that is running? |
| 12:23 | wahanui | well, packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:23 | jcamins_away | ^^ those are the canonical package instructions for both Debian and Ubuntu. |
| 12:23 | kf | haris: you can paste things like that to paste.koha-community.org if you want |
| 12:24 | jcamins_away | haris: first question? |
| 12:24 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 12:24 | haris | yes I am doing it now |
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| 12:25 | haris | koha 1978 0.0 0.0 2152 356 ? S 2012 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha.koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml koha |
| 12:25 | jcamins | haris: what are you trying to do? |
| 12:25 | findus | Thank you very much so far, I'll be back when I'm stuck again :) |
| 12:25 | haris | the zebra daemon can't start |
| 12:26 | jcamins | How do you know? |
| 12:26 | haris | this is the ps aux | grep zebra of a previous snapshot of my system that it worked |
| 12:26 | jcamins | I see. |
| 12:26 | So ps aux | grep zebra does not give any output. | |
| 12:26 | haris | i am trying to understand why now the zebra server can't start |
| 12:26 | no | |
| 12:26 | jcamins | Got it. :) |
| 12:26 | Most likely, the problem is permissions. | |
| 12:27 | You're starting Zebra using koha-zebra-ctl.sh? | |
| 12:27 | haris | I am trying to start it from /etc/init.d/koha-zebra-daemon |
| 12:28 | and also i tried from " sudo koha-start-zebra" | |
| 12:28 | jcamins | Okay, that's the same script. |
| 12:28 | How did you install Koha? | |
| 12:28 | haris | and "sudo koha-start-zebra instance" |
| 12:28 | I had a 3 version of koha | |
| 12:28 | and I updated to 3.8.6 | |
| 12:29 | jcamins | But how? Packages? |
| 12:29 | haris | follow this guide |
| 12:29 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages | |
| 12:30 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:30 | haris | manually I can start zebra server |
| 12:30 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 12:30 | the new po's are already up? | |
| 12:30 | haris | but I can't have the terminal open |
| 12:30 | jcamins | This supports my permissions theory. |
| 12:31 | What's the instance called? | |
| 12:31 | haris | in which folders and what kind of permission |
| 12:31 | koha | |
| 12:32 | I read that /var/log/koha /var/run/koha /var/lock/koha must have koha permission | |
| 12:32 | and I did it | |
| 12:32 | jcamins | Okay, so `sudo chown -R koha-koha /var/lib/koha/koha/* /var/run/koha/koha/*` |
| 12:33 | Every time you start Zebra successfully, it forcibly changes the ownership on all your files. | |
| 12:34 | That is one of the "features" that I am not so fond of. | |
| 12:35 | khall++ | |
| 12:36 | haris | when i change the permissions, next run "sudo koha-start-zebra koha" ? |
| 12:37 | i did it, then try sudo koha-stop-zebra koha | |
| 12:37 | to see if the pid running | |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 12:37 | haris | but there is a message that "Stopping Zebra server for koha daemon: fatal: failed to stop the koha-koha-zebra daemon: No such process " |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Hrm. |
| 12:38 | haris | any other idea? |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Thinking... |
| 12:39 | And you get no output from koha-start-zebra? | |
| 12:40 | haris | root 14205 0.0 0.0 3300 748 pts/3 S+ 14:40 0:00 grep zebra |
| 12:40 | only this | |
| 12:40 | wahanui | hmmm... only this is a neverending story somehow |
| 12:41 | jcamins | When you say it works from the terminal, what user are you running Zebra as? |
| 12:41 | haris | root |
| 12:41 | jcamins | And are you running the daemon command or the zebrasrv command directly? |
| 12:42 | haris | zebrasrv-2.0 -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 12:43 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:43 | haris | this is the command that i type |
| 12:43 | as root | |
| 12:43 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 12:44 | That is not the right koha-conf.xml. | |
| 12:45 | Did you follow the instructions all the way through to the end? | |
| 12:45 | haris | yes |
| 12:45 | jcamins | Including the koha-rebuild-zebra step? |
| 12:45 | haris | yes |
| 12:46 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 12:46 | So the next thing to do is to try running the zebra daemon with the configuration file you want. | |
| 12:46 | haris | ok |
| 12:47 | jcamins | Run `sudo -u koha-koha -g koha-koha zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml` |
| 12:48 | haris | this needs to run it as koha user? |
| 12:48 | jcamins | You can run that command as root. That's what the `sudo -u...` is for. |
| 12:48 | You could also su - to koha-koha and just run the command directly. | |
| 12:48 | haris | Sorry, user root is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml' as koha-koha:koha-koha on "site" |
| 12:49 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 12:49 | Okay, switch to koha-koha. | |
| 12:49 | haris | su koha , you mean? |
| 12:50 | jcamins | No. |
| 12:50 | su - koha-koha | |
| 12:50 | The user "koha" is not used. | |
| 12:51 | haris | No directory, logging in with HOME=/ |
| 12:51 | that appears if i type su - koha-koha | |
| 12:51 | jcamins | That's fine. |
| 12:51 | Just so long as you're koha-koha. | |
| 12:52 | Now run `zebrasrv -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml` | |
| 12:52 | haris | I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml" 14:52:19-15/01 [fatal] Could not parse /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml |
| 12:52 | jcamins | Okay. Does that file exist? |
| 12:53 | haris | no |
| 12:53 | there is nothing inside of sites | |
| 12:53 | jcamins | There's the problem. |
| 12:54 | haris | the problem is that there in |
| 12:54 | jcamins | If you follow the instructions under the heading "Get your site up and running," that will create your site. |
| 12:54 | haris | but my site is up and running |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Using a tarball install. |
| 12:55 | The instructions you were following were how to switch to a package install. | |
| 12:57 | haris | ok. |
| 12:57 | so I have to reinstall it again? | |
| 12:57 | using tarball install? | |
| 12:58 | jcamins | If you would like to continue using a tarball install, then yes. |
| 12:58 | haris | if no? |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Otherwise, go through the instructions on this page http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages starting from "Backup" again. |
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| 12:59 | haris | in which step i did it wrong |
| 12:59 | ? | |
| 13:00 | jcamins | You definitely missed the instructions starting at "Get rid of some of the old stuff / Apache." |
| 13:00 | However, since I'm not certain that the earlier steps worked, it's best to start over, including the backup. | |
| 13:01 | haris | ok |
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| 13:17 | drojf | i tried bug 4910 and set it to resolved-invalid |
| 13:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, RESOLVED INVALID, Debian Packaging does not start Apache (on Ubuntu Lucid) |
| 13:18 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 13:18 | drojf++ | |
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| 13:19 | kf | drojf++ :) |
| 13:19 | is that from the new oldest mails list? | |
| 13:21 | drojf | yes |
| 13:22 | i will look at bug 3068 | |
| 13:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, NEW , Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous |
| 13:22 | kf | drojf++ again :) |
| 13:22 | drojf | woah, drowning in karma :) |
| 13:24 | kf | i hope not :) |
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| 13:29 | oleonard | So, #koha. |
| 13:30 | jcamins | oleonard: you were much besought last night. There are a bunch of accessibility patches that wizzyrea wanted your opinion on. |
| 13:30 | oleonard | I saw the Bugzilla messages. I also saw that kf had started looking at them. |
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| 13:31 | kf | oleonard: yeah :( |
| 13:31 | I am not sure my second idea was a good one - but I was hoping too to catch you today and ask you for ideas | |
| 13:36 | drojf | i tried bug 3086 but would not mind somebody else verifying my findings |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3086 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, CLOSED FIXED, Can't close circulation date-picker popup in Internet Explorer |
| 13:36 | drojf | ups |
| 13:36 | wrong | |
| 13:36 | i tried bug 3068 but would not mind somebody else verifying my findings | |
| 13:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3068 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, RESOLVED FIXED, Auth.pm: IP address matching overly generous |
| 13:36 | drojf | oops, said a german 'ups' ;) |
| 13:37 | kf | oops :) |
| 13:50 | drojf | is this still true? "This combination of parameters is not possible in rebuild_zebra.pl: rebuild_zebra -a -x"? according to the comments on bug 3327 it is a GRS-1 vs. DOM thingy |
| 13:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3327 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , rebuild_zebra.pl doesn't index authorities in XML |
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| 13:56 | jcamins | drojf: no. |
| 13:57 | That is fixed. | |
| 13:57 | drojf | \o/ |
| 13:59 | a dashboard for the bugs from slef's emails would be nice | |
| 14:01 | oleonard | Did we make it through all the items on his previous list? |
| 14:02 | drojf | i assume the stuff from the last list would just turn up again? |
| 14:02 | (have not done anything the last time i think) | |
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| 14:03 | oleonard | drojf: The list is new. It doesn't include items from the previous one. |
| 14:04 | drojf | my guess would be you made it through the old list then, or the lists are generated differently than i would expect |
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| 14:05 | oleonard | Example: Bug 3162 is unmodified. |
| 14:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3162 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Authority subfileds definitions and Show/Show Collapsed/Hide option |
| 14:06 | kf | hm |
| 14:06 | we should summon slef and ask him :) | |
| 14:07 | drojf | slef slef slef |
| 14:08 | kf | hm it didn't work |
| 14:09 | * drojf | closed bug 5291 |
| 14:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5291 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, RESOLVED INVALID, Purchase suggestion not working |
| 14:09 | drojf | i think that were 4 now. your turn, everybody ;) |
| 14:10 | * oleonard | already ruthlessly shot down the accessibility patches :( |
| 14:12 | drojf | 'Unknown operating system Windows 2000. Setting to default OS "All".' <--- lol |
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| 14:13 | magnuse | oleonard++ and kf++ for polite and informative shootdowns |
| 14:16 | kf | hope ti helps them and is not frustrating |
| 14:17 | i felt really mean for failing this morning | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | I don't think bug 3476 is really fixed but I also know the person who filed it has no intention of submitting a rebased patch |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3476 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, Predefined fee types |
| 14:20 | drojf | yeah probably not |
| 14:20 | kf | hm it does work |
| 14:20 | I think | |
| 14:20 | it might have gone in on a separate bug? | |
| 14:20 | it's not a good solution of course... using the description for the amount | |
| 14:21 | oleonard: can I ask you something? | |
| 14:21 | oleonard | kf: I think the original enhancement allowed the library to create their own authorized values for manual invoices |
| 14:22 | kf | well, that's not a good question actually, but do you have time to give me some css hints? :) |
| 14:22 | oleonard | Sure kf |
| 14:23 | kf | oleonard: about the bug - not sure I get it :( you can add values to MANUAL_INV or whatever authorised value now that will show up in the list for manual invoices, I remember testing that I think |
| 14:23 | and there might even be example values, the copier fee thing | |
| 14:23 | and the css | |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Oh you can? I thought from looking at the template that it was hard-coded. |
| 14:23 | kf | if I didn't scare you away :) |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Oh I didn't look carefully--there are hard-coded ones and custom ones |
| 14:24 | So never mind. CSS. | |
| 14:24 | kf | oleonard: I think you can - checking my 3.6.10 here shows MANUAL_INV with a manual fee for copying |
| 14:24 | heh | |
| 14:24 | I am trying to get a logo show up left AND right of the search box | |
| 14:24 | of course the left one wa easy using opacsmallimage and some css to make it right for the size of the logo | |
| 14:24 | but I am a bit stuck on how to add one to the right | |
| 14:25 | a gentle kick in the right direction would be appreciated | |
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| 14:34 | drojf | can't you use :before and :after for that? i think i only used it to display an icon in front of a link so far, but maybe something like input.text#transl1:before { content:url(/path/to/file.png); } and the equivalent for :after? (hoping oleonard won't get a heartattack from my wild guesses) |
| 14:35 | kf | drojf: heh |
| 14:36 | oleonard | drojf: I had the same thought, but I think the existing structure won't allow it |
| 14:36 | kf | oooh |
| 14:37 | didn't think about that | |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Yeah that's a pretty common usage of the header |
| 14:38 | kf | the problem is, it takes up lots of room |
| 14:38 | drojf | oh, you did not mean to have it right before and after the search field i suppose :) |
| 14:38 | kf | oh I did mean |
| 14:38 | but maybe if that's not possible... | |
| 14:40 | drojf | i thought you want to have something like |
| 14:40 | Suche [Freitext] X [ (input field) ] X [OK] | |
| 14:40 | where X is your graphic | |
| 14:40 | kf | aah no |
| 14:44 | drojf | i don't think these logos have a good size for what you are planning to do ;) |
| 14:44 | well, depends on the size of the monitor of course | |
| 14:45 | kf | yeah |
| 14:52 | vfernandes | people i'm having a problem with 3.8 |
| 14:52 | when searching for call number the search indexe is <option value="callnum"> Call number</option> | |
| 14:53 | but it gives me wrong results... if I change the value to "callnum,phr" everything works fine | |
| 14:53 | should I submit a bug for this? | |
| 14:55 | the same happens to standard number... if I had phr everything works fine | |
| 14:55 | jcamins | vfernandes: I think there was a patch for that. |
| 14:55 | Possibly it was missed for 3.8. | |
| 14:55 | vfernandes | can you show me the bug? |
| 14:55 | jcamins | I'm looking. |
| 14:57 | Maybe not. | |
| 14:57 | I can't find it. | |
| 14:57 | vfernandes | :/ |
| 14:59 | magnuse | Bug 6454 sounds related |
| 14:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6454 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lculber, NEW , Searching by callnumber uses callnum,wrdl not callnum,phr |
| 15:00 | vfernandes | in the comments he says that sn has already a patch |
| 15:00 | sn -> standard number | |
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| 15:02 | vfernandes | but it wasn't pushed to master because search-indexes stills searching only for "sn" |
| 15:07 | in OPAC there is the same problem in standard number | |
| 15:07 | in OPAC the problem with callnumber is solved (phr added to value) | |
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| 15:09 | vfernandes | should I fill a bug and submit a patch? |
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| 15:14 | vfernandes | i will submit a bug/patch then the responsible can accept/reject |
| 15:14 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:14 | Actually, you know what might be even better? | |
| 15:15 | vfernandes | what? |
| 15:15 | jcamins | Make it an option. |
| 15:15 | A syspref like "OpacNumbersPreferPhrase" in the Searching tab. | |
| 15:16 | If it's true, use sn,phr callnum,phr etc. If it's false, use sn,wrdl callnum,wrdl etc. | |
| 15:16 | magnuse | or make the whole list of indexes editable :-) |
| 15:16 | vfernandes | in OPAC the problem is only in "sn", in the staff client the problem in callnumbers and sn |
| 15:16 | jcamins | magnuse: I was looking for an option that would not require vfernandes to spend the next month on the small bugfix. |
| 15:17 | magnuse | jcamins: ;-) |
| 15:17 | vfernandes | i don't have much time for this :) |
| 15:17 | jcamins | That's why my suggestion was probably more reasonable. ;) |
| 15:18 | vfernandes | ok I can do it with a system preference |
| 15:18 | but one to controll the OPAC and Staff or one for each one? | |
| 15:18 | jcamins | Probably one for each. |
| 15:19 | Though I'm not sure one is needed for the staff client... aren't both options already there? | |
| 15:20 | vfernandes | yes but with wrong value.... only "sn" and "callnum" when it should be "sn,phr" and "callnum,phr" |
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| 15:21 | * magnuse | is reminded of this discussion: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]AC-td5727169.html |
| 15:21 | vfernandes | when nothing is specified it uses wrdl right? |
| 15:25 | right magnuse | |
| 15:25 | jcamins | vfernandes: not necessarily. |
| 15:25 | With nothing specified the search is closer to wrdl than most other options. | |
| 15:27 | vfernandes | jcamins i will do the patch |
| 15:28 | but i need a system preference to staff too | |
| 15:30 | oleonard | When I add a saved SQL report I end up with two copies |
| 15:32 | ...but no duplicates in the database? | |
| 15:32 | magnuse | oleonard: two for the price of one! yay! |
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| 15:38 | kf | oleonard++ :) |
| 15:42 | and oleonard++ :) | |
| 15:43 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe the result of the reports sorting patch I pushed last night? |
| 15:43 | I didn't see that when I was testing, but maybe I tested wrong. | |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Hm, last night? I thought I noticed it first a few days ago, thought it was a data problem. |
| 15:43 | kf | or a side effect of the new category system? |
| 15:43 | jcamins | kf: or that. |
| 15:44 | oleonard | that's my guess kf, a bad query maybe |
| 15:44 | jcamins | oleonard: in that case, it probably wasn't the patch I pushed last night. |
| 15:44 | kf | that was only jquery I think, so I hope it was not the cause |
| 15:44 | ... and I tested it and I hate missing something that big :) | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | oleonard: bad news... |
| 15:51 | wahanui | bad news is that you're probably royally screwed |
| 15:52 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:52 | Not quite that bad. | |
| 15:52 | I'm not comfortable with your patch for bug 3134. | |
| 15:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Ability to selelct multiple reports to delete at once |
| 15:52 | oleonard | Okay |
| 15:53 | jcamins | It allows SQL injection by inserting the comma-separated list directly into the SQL. |
| 15:53 | oleonard | Ah of course. I was copying from a poor example. |
| 15:53 | * oleonard | passes the buck to koha-news.pl |
| 15:54 | jcamins | koha-news.pl does that? |
| 15:54 | Yikes! | |
| 15:54 | That's a massive SQL injection flaw. | |
| 15:54 | I'm not sure if you can use placeholders with IN(). | |
| 15:54 | oleonard | I wasn't thinking critically enough, assuming the example was valid. My apologies. |
| 15:54 | jcamins | If you can, that's the best option. |
| 15:54 | No problem. | |
| 15:55 | If you can't use placeholders with IN, your best bet would be to generate a WHERE clause. with as many placeholders as there are IDs. | |
| 15:58 | You can pass the @ids list, and use that for $dbh->execute(@ids) | |
| 15:58 | Apologies if that was rehashing things you already know. | |
| 15:58 | Hopefully someone found it useful. | |
| 15:59 | oleonard | Thanks jcamins |
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| 16:05 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 16:05 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #85: "owen: Nothing says embracing my geekness like participating in an IRC meeting about software licenses!" (added by kf at 12:23 PM, July 14, 2010) |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Regarding Bug 3549, I wonder if there's any reason not to add a sort by framework description directly to the SQL? |
| 16:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3549 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Framework sorting in addbook |
| 16:08 | oleonard | Right now you have to "manually" sort frameworks by code or description. If you sorted it by default you'd only have to "manually" sort if you wanted a sort by code. |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Makes sense to me. |
| 16:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #1009 for job Koha_master (previous build: ABORTED -- last SUCCESS #1006 2 days 2 hr ago) |
| 16:16 | gmcharlt | @quote get 145 |
| 16:16 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
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| 16:18 | Dyrcona | @quote random |
| 16:18 | huginn | Dyrcona: Quote #62: "<fallor> is this a known thingy?" (added by gmcharlt at 01:18 PM, February 26, 2010) |
| 16:18 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 16:19 | gmcharlt | <fallor>? |
| 16:20 | Dyrcona | gmcharlt: Don't ask me. I'm just visting. |
| 16:20 | gmcharlt | Dyrcona: no, just playing with the infobot |
| 16:25 | Dyrcona | Ah, yeah... |
| 16:29 | * oleonard | wonders if Bug 4202 had funding at some point or if it is just ideas |
| 16:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Improve international currency and exchange support |
| 16:30 | gerundio | hey guys, what's the relation between the subfield "6- Type of record" from field 000 and Koha's Item types? |
| 16:31 | jwagner | none at all |
| 16:35 | gerundio | jwagner, the 000 - 6 is a list of hardcoded values from what I could tell, right? |
| 16:36 | jwagner | It's based on the MARC standard (assuming you're using MARC21, that is), which defines certain values. |
| 16:36 | Item types can be anything you want. | |
| 16:37 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/bdleader.html | |
| 16:38 | gerundio | we're using UNIMARC |
| 16:38 | does any standard apply for that matter too? | |
| 16:39 | jwagner | Ah. Then ignore what I said, but I suspect the answer is the same. |
| 16:39 | Dyrcona | gerundio: http://www.ifla.org/publicatio[…]ted-documentation |
| 16:40 | Looks like it is a PDF download from there. | |
| 16:42 | gerundio | in terms of catalog search, does that field have any influence in the results? |
| 16:43 | from where I'm stading I'd say that Koha item types are the ones to look for in terms of filtering search results, right? | |
| 16:44 | oleonard | item type and collection code can both be used to filter search results gerundio |
| 16:45 | item types are also used to define circulation rules, so you may want to keep them separate from search-related categorization | |
| 16:46 | gerundio | hmm, when you say "collection code" you're refering to "6- Type of record" from field 000? |
| 16:46 | I see the use for the item types, both in search and circulation rules | |
| 16:47 | since I'm not a librarian I have a hard time understading the purpose of the other field | |
| 16:47 | kf | oleonard: I think I have seen an eample on how to do sql right on the wiki somewhere |
| 16:48 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:48 | kf | oleonard: If I understood correctly what you were looking for earlier |
| 16:49 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L10:_Placeholders | |
| 16:49 | oleonard | That's a great example, thanks kf |
| 16:50 | kf | :) |
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| 17:04 | kf | bye all :) |
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| 17:12 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #1009: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]Koha_master/1009/ |
| 17:18 | jcamins_away | gerundio: you can search on LDR/06, but it has nothing to do with what Koha calls "item type." |
| 17:27 | vfernandes | jcamins check bug 9395 :) |
| 17:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9395 major, P1 - high, ---, vfernandes, Needs Signoff , Problem with callnumber and standard number search in OPAC and Staff Client |
| 17:28 | jcamins_away | I saw! :) |
| 17:28 | vfernandes++ | |
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| 17:44 | jcamins_away | Ooh, NISO is developing a new Bibliographic Exchange Environment. |
| 17:54 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: [off] an environment? /me just had an image of predatory RDA records tearing into herds of peacefully grazing MARC21 records |
| 17:55 | jcamins_away | #marchasnomercyandwilleatyoualive |
| 17:58 | oleonard | I openly mock library standards and I'm proud to say it! |
| 17:58 | jcamins_away | Actually, some of my snark is rather prideworthy too. |
| 17:59 | * Dyrcona | doesn't think the words library and standard logically go in the same paragraph, never mind the same sentence. |
| 17:59 | jcamins_away | @quote get 123 |
| 17:59 | huginn | jcamins_away: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
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| 18:03 | libsysguy | is there a quote about hating the marc edirot? |
| 18:03 | editor* | |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I don't think so. |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | @quote search "marc editor" |
| 18:03 | huginn | libsysguy: No matching quotes were found. |
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| 18:03 | libsysguy | damn |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | @quote search editor |
| 18:04 | huginn | jcamins_away: 1 found: #231: "oleonard: You're not a real hardcore cataloger..." |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | @quote get 231 |
| 18:04 | huginn | jcamins_away: Quote #231: "oleonard: You're not a real hardcore cataloger unless you catalog with hide_marc *and* advancedMARCeditor enabled: http://screencast.com/t/7qo1Wiokhe" (added by druthb at 02:34 PM, January 08, 2013) |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 18:06 | cait | :) |
| 18:06 | libsysguy++ thx for your qa yesterday | |
| 18:06 | libsysguy | no problem |
| 18:06 | I saw it got pushed | |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away | Yeah, it was marked as "critical." |
| 18:08 | * libsysguy | goes to mark all his patches "critical" as to drive jcamins_away mad |
| 18:08 | jcamins_away | me? |
| 18:08 | wahanui | jcamins_away is probably not here, but you don't have to take my word for it! |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | Oh, right, I'm jcamins_away right now. |
| 18:09 | jcamins? | |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is very, very irascible. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | well, jcamins is a spoilsport |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | i guess jcamins is brilliant |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | i heard jcamins was brilliant |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is, like, very, very irascible |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | i think jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is too young to be the President of the United States. Which is a pity, because he had the votes at the 3.12 election. |
| 18:09 | * jcamins_away | thinks someone has been playing with wahanui's memory. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is the brilliant and irascible President of the United States. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | 'scuse me while I cue up "Hail to the Chief!" |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | jcamins? |
| 18:09 | wahanui | jcamins is RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
| 18:09 | jcamins_away | ^^ there we go |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | libsysguy? |
| 18:17 | wahanui | hmmm... libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck or koha's youngest developer |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | ^^ yeahhhhh |
| 18:18 | jcamins_away | Did you add to that? |
| 18:18 | libsysguy | no wizzyrea did |
| 18:20 | so I was trying to add an item with selenium but every time I go to the addbiblio.pl page I get a new id for each element…frustrating | |
| 18:20 | that makes it impossible to automate | |
| 18:20 | there is nothing that is constant about it | |
| 18:20 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I disagree. |
| 18:20 | It constantly annoys me. | |
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| 18:21 | libsysguy | that is what I was saying…its annoying... |
| 18:21 | well…impossible really | |
| 18:21 | jcamins_away | This seems very constant to me. |
| 18:21 | libsysguy | ohh |
| 18:21 | * libsysguy | gets it now |
| 18:22 | goes back to the literal corner | |
| 18:22 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 18:22 | Don't feel bad. | |
| 18:22 | Amelia Bedelia would have been confused too. | |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | lol |
| 18:23 | * libsysguy | had to go look that up |
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| 18:33 | vfernandes | bye guys! |
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| 19:26 | rangi | Hmm hold up |
| 19:26 | * jcamins_away | pulls up short. |
| 19:26 | rangi | Have we really added a captcha to koha? |
| 19:27 | * rangi | hopes he just read bug mail wrong |
| 19:27 | jcamins_away | For registering a new account. |
| 19:27 | rangi | Yuck |
| 19:28 | I thought by now ppl knew they were discrinatory and ineffective | |
| 19:28 | jcamins_away | Apparently not. |
| 19:28 | rangi | Gah |
| 19:29 | Ah well maybe the academy kids can rip it back out | |
| 19:30 | drojf | a captcha? really? :( |
| 19:30 | bonus points if it comes directly from google servers :( | |
| 19:30 | rangi | I'll have to read the code |
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| 19:34 | oleonard | it's not an image |
| 19:34 | gmcharlt | randomly generated string |
| 19:34 | and doesn't use an external service, looks like | |
| 19:34 | cait | hi MrAgent075 :) |
| 19:34 | rangi | Oh so um even more pointless? |
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| 19:35 | MrAgent075 | Good Morning Everyone! :) |
| 19:35 | cait | MrAgent075: your patch passed QA :) |
| 19:36 | * MrAgent075 | had patch passed last night by a person in Germany. Now that's what he calls International Collab. :) |
| 19:36 | rangi | Current best system is to have inputs hidden by css, bots fill them in, humans don't |
| 19:36 | If it's filled in, it's spam | |
| 19:37 | gmcharlt | easy enough to implement, then |
| 19:37 | jcamins_away | Nice! |
| 19:39 | drojf | haha sounds fantastic |
| 19:40 | jcamins_away | MrAgent075: and it'll probably be pushed tonight (your daytime) by someone in New York. |
| 19:42 | rangi | Side product of working on accessibility you learn lots about best practice too |
| 19:42 | ibeardslee | MrAgent075: who was that who QA'd your patch? |
| 19:43 | rangi | I bet cait did it |
| 19:43 | ibeardslee | cait: ^^? |
| 19:43 | wahanui | well, ^^ is that clear? |
| 19:46 | cait | yeah me :) |
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| 19:48 | cait | wb findus |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 19:48 | findus | hi |
| 19:49 | oleonard | Hi wizzyrea |
| 19:50 | findus | Does any one kwon how to install a danish languagespack on koha 3.10? |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | installing additional languages? |
| 19:50 | findus | yep |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | installing languages? |
| 19:50 | cait | additional languages? |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | I just did this. |
| 19:50 | cait | lol |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | Yesterday. |
| 19:50 | wahanui | yesterday is almost over for me, and it's been pretty awful. |
| 19:50 | cait | findus: we are trying to make the bot answer your question |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 19:51 | cait | wahanui: I agree |
| 19:51 | wahanui | cait: i'm not following you... |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | assuming we have a danish translation |
| 19:51 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client | |
| 19:51 | cait | we have one |
| 19:51 | but staff is not totally complete | |
| 19:51 | I checked this afternoon when findus was around the first time :) | |
| 19:51 | findus: have you seen http://translate.koha-community.org? | |
| 19:52 | findus | yes |
| 19:52 | and I found a guide | |
| 19:53 | but when I come to the ./translate install da-DK part, i get an error.. | |
| 19:53 | cait | what is the error? |
| 19:53 | findus | Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.14.2 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.14 /usr/share/perl/5.14 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at LangInstaller.pm line 22. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at LangInstaller.pm line 22. Compilation failed in require at ./translate line 25 |
| 19:53 | cait | ah |
| 19:53 | right | |
| 19:53 | environment variables missing | |
| 19:53 | you have installed with packages this time around, right? | |
| 19:54 | findus | yep |
| 19:54 | found a guide :) | |
| 19:54 | cait | cool :) |
| 19:54 | so it's up and running? :) | |
| 19:54 | findus | yep |
| 19:54 | http://kohageek.pbworks.com/w/[…]n-ubuntu-packages | |
| 19:54 | the guide :) | |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | oy. |
| 19:55 | findus | hi |
| 19:56 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 19:56 | findus | how do I get these environment variables |
| 19:56 | ? | |
| 19:56 | drojf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]uilding_Languages |
| 19:56 | findus | thanks |
| 19:56 | cait | ah |
| 19:57 | thx drojf | |
| 19:57 | jcamins_away | Why on earth did Vimal copy part of a page off the wiki? |
| 20:00 | findus | new problem: unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/Context.pm line 360. unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/Context.pm line 360. Can't call method "config" on an undefined value at LangInstaller.pm line 48. :( ??? |
| 20:00 | drojf | findus: did you change "instancename" to your instancename? |
| 20:01 | cait | hm there is also a // |
| 20:01 | findus | Err..?? |
| 20:01 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, cait. |
| 20:01 | cait | lib//C4 |
| 20:01 | drojf | cait: doesn't matter |
| 20:01 | cait | k |
| 20:01 | jcamins_away | The extra slash doesn't matter. |
| 20:01 | Not changing the instance name does. :) | |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | sooo what developer number are we up to now? |
| 20:02 | findus | How do I do that ? |
| 20:02 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: 199 |
| 20:02 | drojf | anyway the slash should not be at the end of the PERL5LIB path ;) |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | corey is 199? |
| 20:02 | jcamins_away | drojf: that is true. |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea: yup. | |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | coooool |
| 20:02 | thanks ; | |
| 20:02 | :) | |
| 20:02 | jcamins_away | findus: just write the correct instance name instead of "instancename" in the command listed. |
| 20:02 | drojf | if only those stones we carve tjis information in could ever be changed :D |
| 20:03 | s/tjis/this | |
| 20:03 | jcamins_away | drojf: I'm not at my computer, which means you get to fix it. |
| 20:03 | drojf | deal |
| 20:05 | done | |
| 20:05 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 20:05 | drojf | findus: you created a koha instance with koha-create, right? |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | 9179 isn't pushed I guess? |
| 20:05 | findus | hmmm.... In the guide under "Instance creation" there's only a sudo apt-get install mysql-server command followed by "sudo apt-get clean" and "sudo koha-create --create-db library" |
| 20:05 | drojf | if you did that, your instance name is library |
| 20:06 | findus | instead of library I wrote bibliotek |
| 20:06 | drojf | then THAT is your instance name :) |
| 20:06 | jcamins_away | This is why I disapprove of people copying bits and pieces of the documentation. |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | yea, that's not the canonical guide. |
| 20:06 | koha on ubunut? | |
| 20:06 | koha on ubuntu? | |
| 20:06 | wahanui | somebody said koha on ubuntu was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 20:06 | jcamins_away | packages? |
| 20:06 | wahanui | rumour has it packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 20:06 | jcamins_away | ^^ that is the canonical guide |
| 20:07 | For Ubuntu. | |
| 20:07 | Really. | |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | forget koha on ubuntu |
| 20:07 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot koha on ubuntu |
| 20:07 | jcamins_away | Maybe we should change the URL so people will pay attention. |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | well it says debian |
| 20:07 | :P | |
| 20:07 | jcamins_away | Yeah, that's why I'm thinking maybe it should change. |
| 20:07 | findus | whats wrong with Ubuntu wiht koha? |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | what's this thing I heard of about a captcha in koha? |
| 20:08 | jcamins_away | findus: nothing. The instructions for installing Koha on Ubuntu are *exactly the same* as the instructions for installing Koha on Debian. |
| 20:08 | rangi | jcamins_away: lets just change that to Installing via Packages |
| 20:08 | via .deb packages | |
| 20:08 | jcamins_away | rangi: perfect! |
| 20:08 | rangi | maybe |
| 20:09 | * rangi | has a cold, or the flu or soemthing |
| 20:09 | rangi | always when im on leave |
| 20:09 | jcamins_away | Oh no! |
| 20:12 | wizzyrea | stink |
| 20:15 | drojf | findus: are you getting along? |
| 20:17 | oleonard | Should I not expect getframeworks in Koha.pm to return sorted data even with an 'ORDER BY' in the query? |
| 20:17 | 'cause it ain't. | |
| 20:17 | jcamins_away | oleonard: you should not. It returns a hash. |
| 20:19 | You'll need to sort with your own compare function. | |
| 20:20 | rangi | are you using it in a template oleonard ? |
| 20:20 | http://search.cpan.org/dist/Te[…]VMethods.pod#sort,_nsort | |
| 20:21 | oleonard | Interesting. |
| 20:21 | wahanui | well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 20:21 | jcamins_away | my @frameworkloop = sort { $a->{'frameworkname'} <=> $b->{'frameworkname'} } &getframeworks |
| 20:21 | ; | |
| 20:21 | (assuming the member you want is frameworkname) | |
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| 20:26 | drojf | ay caramba |
| 20:31 | rangi | heh |
| 20:32 | * cait | ponders if she has seen that in modern perl or learning perl |
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| 20:47 | oleonard | Is But 941 about authority searching? |
| 20:47 | Bug 941? | |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=941 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, REOPENED , In advanced search : ask for controlled terms for "subject" |
| 20:47 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 20:48 | I think perhaps that should be marked RESOLVED-WISHLIST. | |
| 20:50 | cait | probably |
| 20:50 | it's anice wish :) | |
| 20:50 | oleonard | What exactly does it mean? |
| 20:50 | cait | subjects are controlled terms, or they can be |
| 20:51 | rangi | no one is actually intending to ever work on it |
| 20:51 | jcamins_away | oleonard: rather than entering in keywords, they'd like the ability to have a list of subjects in the database, and choose one. |
| 20:51 | cait | so you woudl show a list of subjects alphabetic |
| 20:51 | oh | |
| 20:51 | rangi | oh you meant the bug, not the status :) |
| 20:51 | cait | I would not say never |
| 20:51 | never say never :) | |
| 20:51 | rangi | well in 9 years |
| 20:51 | but yeah, someone might, thats why stick it in the wishlist | |
| 20:52 | oleonard | I didn't even know we had RESOLVED-WISHLIST |
| 20:53 | rangi | we only just got it |
| 20:53 | * oleonard | missed the memo |
| 20:53 | rangi | it allows you to search for a stuff no one is intending to work on, but it would be nice if someone did |
| 20:54 | good way of finding things for people to work on if they say "i want to help koha what can i do" | |
| 20:54 | it also means we dont have 9 year old bug reports sitting in new status | |
| 20:54 | :) | |
| 20:56 | cait | jcamins_away: maybe you could add it to your next newsletter? |
| 20:56 | jcamins_away | Good idea! |
| 20:57 | Is it already time to write one? | |
| 20:58 | The sky looks very ominous. | |
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| 21:06 | cait | is the sky telling you when to write one? :) |
| 21:06 | don't know if it's time, prbably bit early | |
| 21:06 | unless you felt like writing one :) | |
| 21:07 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 21:07 | Definitely not. | |
| 21:08 | eythian | hi |
| 21:11 | cjh | morning |
| 21:11 | eythian | It's quiet up here |
| 21:12 | I'm the only one in the koha area | |
| 21:12 | ohh curry day | |
| 21:12 | jcamins_away | eythian: BTW, I added a bunch more features to your csvtomarc script. |
| 21:13 | eythian | jcamins_away: sweet. It's about time I started managing that on gitorious or something to make it more amenable to that kind of thing |
| 21:13 | jcamins_away | I don't think I pushed them to my repo yet, though, so you'll just have to believe me. |
| 21:13 | eythian | heh |
| 21:14 | jcamins_away | The --reduce option now works properly, and it's possible to use source functions for all input. |
| 21:17 | eythian | there's a --reduce option? |
| 21:17 | jcamins_away | Yes, that was a previous patch I did. |
| 21:17 | eythian | ah right |
| 21:18 | also, don't source functions work for all input anyway? | |
| 21:18 | (or, I'm not clear what you mean) | |
| 21:19 | jcamins_away | It worked, but A) had a stupid inefficiency which meant that it was O(n^2) instead of O(n*n-1) efficient, and B) for certain data it failed to differentiate records. |
| 21:19 | No, if you use source functions for everything, a record will be considered blank. | |
| 21:19 | eythian | oh right. I think I'd encountered something like that. |
| 21:19 | can't remember how I fixed it. | |
| 21:20 | or perhaps I'm thinking of something else. I forget now. | |
| 21:21 | oh right, functions have a way of telling you what column they are referring to and that gets checked. | |
| 21:21 | jcamins_away | And for anyone who is troubled by my description of --reduce as having a "stupid inefficiency," I was the original author. |
| 21:21 | Hm. I thought I had merged in your latest version, but maybe not. | |
| 21:22 | cait | oleonard++ for closing old bugs :) |
| 21:22 | eythian | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]tions_import#l640 <-- jcamins_away, this is it I think |
| 21:22 | that's part of the reason I need to move it to gitorious, I lose track of where my latest version is | |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | 3 patches in one day that's a record for me |
| 21:23 | jcamins_away | Ooh, yeah, I think that might not be in the koha-migration-toolbox repo. |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | i thought ruth had put it there? |
| 21:23 | or her version of it anyway | |
| 21:24 | jcamins_away | Right. |
| 21:24 | Her version is there, but not the one with that functionality. | |
| 21:24 | I think. | |
| 21:24 | eythian | yeah, her version is quite old |
| 21:24 | jcamins_away | Hrm. |
| 21:24 | Hope I can merge your version in. | |
| 21:25 | * rangi | wanders off to try to sleep whateveer this is off |
| 21:25 | jcamins_away | Maybe that should go in a separate repo. |
| 21:25 | eythian | well, I have my own clone of the migration toolbox with a ton more patches for things, too |
| 21:25 | (not that though) | |
| 21:26 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 21:26 | In that case, you should update the one in the migration toolbox, and use that one. :P | |
| 21:27 | eythian | yes :) |
| 21:27 | I've mostly been using the stuff that was in there for other things | |
| 21:27 | jcamins_away | The --reduce function is pretty nice, if I say so myself. |
| 21:28 | eythian | whatsit do? |
| 21:29 | jcamins_away | It allows you to combine multiple rows from a CSV into one record. |
| 21:29 | I use it for authorities. | |
| 21:29 | eythian | Oh, interesting |
| 21:29 | wahanui | well, interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 21:31 | jcamins_away | So an authority for Phoenix, AZ which is supposed to have links to every single neighborhood in Phoenix can be specified with fifty lines listing the city and the neighborhood, and with --reduce we can end up with one record with fifty see-alsos. |
| 21:31 | cait | nice |
| 21:32 | makes me think about the combine all item fields into one record problem? | |
| 21:32 | jcamins_away | I told you it was nice. :) |
| 21:32 | Provided there is some sort of key on which to reduce, yup, that would work. :) | |
| 21:33 | A refinement might be to support key-less sparse reduction, where if the key isn't specified you just keep on appending to the last record . | |
| 21:33 | But I don't need that so it's not a priority. | |
| 21:34 | eythian | yeah, I've only been adding things I need, otherwise it'd be even more of a monster script. |
| 21:34 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 21:34 | Yeah. | |
| 21:34 | At this point it probably could do with refactoring into several .pms. | |
| 21:34 | However, it works perfectly, so that's not going to happen. | |
| 21:35 | eythian | a simple plugin system would be quite nice, it'd make it easier to add new functions |
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| 21:35 | jcamins_away | Agreed. |
| 21:35 | Another example of something that neither of us will do. ;) | |
| 21:36 | eythian | I'm not sure I'm OK with the idea that the hostname for the IP address we have reflects the detail of the protocol in use. |
| 21:36 | what happens when we upgrade to 802.11n? | |
| 21:36 | jcamins_away: yes :) | |
| 21:36 | jcamins_away | eythian: huh? |
| 21:36 | eythian | > MrAgent075 (~coreycat11g.catalyst.net.nz) is binnengekomen bij #koha |
| 21:36 | jcamins_away | Oh, is that what cat11g stands for? |
| 21:36 | eythian | yeah, it means you're connecting from the wifi network which is isolated from most other things on our LAN |
| 21:37 | jcamins_away | I had figured that cat1-cat10 and cat11a-cat11f were used by non-Koha people. |
| 21:38 | eythian | no, "~robinleibniz.catalyst.net.nz" is coming from our more internal network. |
| 21:38 | oddly I thought I connected with IPv6, maybe that's something else | |
| 21:39 | and all the wifi people get NATted behind the one address | |
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| 21:42 | eythian | barriers are down! |
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| 21:48 | eythian | http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]Paraparaumu-Beach <-- quite the whale |
| 21:49 | * jcamins_away | calls it a day. |
| 21:51 | cjh | night :) |
| 21:51 | eythian | later |
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| 22:04 | cait | now jcamins_away beat me to it :) |
| 22:04 | good night all :) | |
| 22:05 | eythian | bye cait |
| 22:05 | wizzyrea | oleonard about? |
| 22:05 | nm will ask him tomorrow ) | |
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| 22:06 | wizzyrea | eastern time zone :) |
| 22:06 | but I will ask the rest of you - the link at the top in the staff client, for the visually impaired it is confusing to her [ ? ] | |
| 22:06 | hear* | |
| 22:06 | eythian | pfft, we're far more east than he is. |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 22:06 | eastern US | |
| 22:07 | eythian | I presume an alt or title attribute resolves that? |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | probably, but... I think people do not use it |
| 22:08 | cjh | we will have to check with Julius how his screen reader reads an alt, but that is one approach. Could also add invisible context manually or change the ? to be 'help' |
| 22:08 | wizzyrea | because they do not see it |
| 22:08 | even sighted people | |
| 22:08 | [ Help ] might be a better solution | |
| 22:09 | cjh | the [] might not be needed if we had help, as we already have | separators. |
| 22:09 | wizzyrea | right |
| 22:19 | I think we're going to go with straight Help | |
| 22:20 | that ? lacks context even for sighted people | |
| 22:20 | eythian | tend to agree |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | and it doesn't look bad up there |
| 22:21 | cjh | \o/ |
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| 22:36 | wizzyrea | i forget can git bz change status to signed off as well? |
| 22:36 | * wizzyrea | looks to be EVEN LAZIER |
| 22:39 | eythian | no, not at the moment |
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| 22:53 | wizzyrea | that's a darn shame |
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| 23:12 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: yes. |
| 23:36 | jcamins | I have dated *three* checks 2013! Without writing 2012 first! |
| 23:37 | rangi | i forgot americans still use cheques |
| 23:37 | jcamins | Only when dealing with the government. |
| 23:37 | rangi | i dont think ive owned a chequebook since 2008 |
| 23:37 | ah right | |
| 23:38 | jcamins | Advantage of being a civil servant: great benefits. |
| 23:38 | Disadvantage: your employer believes it's circa 1830. | |
| 23:38 | (fun aside: I was at a lecture on the 1832 economic collapse in Edinburgh on the day that the Bank of Scotland folded) | |
| 23:39 | rangi | heh |
| 23:39 | i bet they didnt get bailed out in 1832 | |
| 23:39 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 23:39 | rangi | rambutan: are you offering to write the book? :-) |
| 23:41 | * rangi | crawls back into his hole |
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| 23:50 | eythian | http://imgur.com/cjMXV <-- it's true, there is |
| 23:51 | jcamins | eythian: so there is. |
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