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00:34 | mib_ygxhlr joined #koha | |
00:35 | mib_ygxhlr | greetings, is there a simple way to tell what version of Koha I have installed via the staff client or terminal command line? |
00:36 | rangi | go to the about page in the staff client |
00:37 | mib_ygxhlr | excellent, thanks |
00:37 | rangi | what version btw? im guessing 3.10.1 |
00:37 | mib_ygxhlr | yup |
00:38 | jcamins_away | rangi: ... what reasoning led you to that correct conclusion? |
00:38 | mib_ygxhlr | I didn't know if I was updating oldstable or sqeeze |
00:39 | rangi | apt-cache policy koha-common |
00:39 | will tell you too | |
00:39 | if you are using the packages | |
00:39 | jcamins_away: someone new to koha, most likely has new version :) | |
00:40 | jcamins_away: that was my guess anyway | |
00:40 | mib_ygxhlr | apt-cache worked too - thanks |
00:40 | jcamins_away | rangi: heh. Seems to have been a good guess. |
00:42 | mib_ygxhlr | ok, here's a better one |
00:43 | what table contains the holdings/item info for a book barcode and how do I look at that in mysql? | |
00:43 | I can see the tables, but am new to sql | |
00:44 | I should say I can see the tables in my koha library in sql - is it the biblio table? | |
00:46 | rangi | no |
00:46 | mib_ygxhlr | gtg, thanks for the help |
00:46 | rangi | items |
00:47 | ok then | |
00:57 | ibeardslee | hmmmm ... the Kiritaki Koha group filled up real quick, but noone has picked Koha (unless people start changing around) :( |
00:58 | jcamins_away | ibeardslee: tell them that the RM is not nearly as scary as he sounds. |
01:00 | * cjh | runs out to buy cookies |
01:01 | wizzyrea | "work on Koha, we have cookies" |
01:01 | cjh | it could work.. |
01:01 | wizzyrea | or chocolate. |
01:01 | wahanui | reiveune ate them all |
01:01 | jcamins_away | lol |
01:03 | ibeardslee | cjh: also use the academy moodle (discussion forum) to help sell it |
01:03 | cjh | the cookies? |
01:03 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
01:04 | ibeardslee | well you could try to sell the cookies, but 'selling' koha would be betterer |
01:04 | jcamins_away | "Work on Koha, we understand the importance of cookies and are always prepared to cheer you up with a plate of fresh cookies." |
01:05 | Also, "work on Koha, the RM just baked 121 rum chocolate chip cookies, and if you work on Koha he'll probably give you some if you go to the US." | |
01:06 | cjh | theres a koha person!!!!! |
01:06 | jcamins_away | \o/ |
01:06 | cjh | and 23 havent answered yet |
01:06 | to battle!!! | |
01:07 | no, they are the tutors. drats. | |
01:14 | jcamins_away | What are the other projects? |
01:15 | There's an online cooking show called "kamikaze cookery"? Awesome! | |
01:20 | mib_vczt1x | jcamins_away: you reviewed the submission i made for the centos? |
01:23 | jcamins_away | mib_vczt1x: yes, it looked good! :D |
01:23 | Thanks! | |
01:23 | ibeardslee | cjh: yeah I've been trying to workout how to configure the setting so only students show |
01:24 | cjh | ibeardslee: dont do that, then it will seem like the koha team is even smaller! |
01:24 | ibeardslee | but that is confusing |
02:34 | wizzyrea | so how are we doing database updates now? did we roll back the big change to that? |
02:34 | jcamins_away | We did, yes. |
02:34 | updatedatabase works the same way as before. | |
02:34 | wizzyrea | ok so do it the old way still? |
02:34 | ok cool. | |
02:34 | * wizzyrea | still may need help but... will do her best/worst |
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03:34 | wizzyrea | wait... the documentation states that permission management is no longer in use |
03:34 | permission "management" | |
03:34 | rangi | hmm what? |
03:34 | wizzyrea | I suppose in favor or "parameters" |
03:35 | favor of | |
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03:47 | wizzyrea | I think I like this the best http://imgur.com/CZrxQ |
03:48 | eythian | I wouldn't have the ** |
03:48 | why not <i> or <b>? | |
03:49 | wizzyrea | will it show that? I honestly didn't try. |
03:49 | eythian | I dunno, but if not it'd be worth making it do so |
03:50 | or have it turn '*...*' into italics or something | |
03:50 | wizzyrea | hm |
03:51 | hah it does work. How funny. | |
03:51 | ok yes, that's nicer. | |
03:51 | eythian | It's effort to make something like that not work, usually :) |
03:52 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
03:54 | http://imgur.com/GZGBV | |
03:54 | I think that gets the point across. | |
03:55 | eythian | that does look better |
03:57 | modules/opac-topissues.tt:<div id="doc3" class="yui-t1"> | |
03:57 | modules/opac-topissues.tt:<div id="doc3" class="yui-t1"> | |
03:57 | modules/opac-topissues.tt:<div id="doc3" class="yui-t7"> | |
03:57 | ^-- on a scale of one to totally wrong... | |
03:58 | * wizzyrea | blinks |
03:58 | eythian | Well, I suppose it could be conditional |
03:58 | I haven't checked that | |
03:58 | wizzyrea | that's my cue I think. |
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04:47 | tts | while setting koha with multiple branch libraries is it possible to restrict library staff to edit records of their own libraries and how to allow borrowers to borrow book from any branch library what circulation preference needs to be set |
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06:03 | cait | morning #koha |
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06:38 | magnuse | morning cait and #koha |
06:39 | cait | good morning magnuse :) |
06:39 | magnuse | :-) |
06:39 | @wunder boo | |
06:39 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
06:39 | magnuse | w00t! |
06:46 | cait | @wunder Konstnaz |
06:46 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
06:46 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
06:46 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -0.4°C (7:45 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
06:46 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
06:46 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
06:47 | magnuse | rainy day, dream away... |
06:50 | cait | @wunder schaffhausen |
06:50 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Schaffhausen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland is -1.2°C (7:47 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
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07:12 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
07:12 | @wunder Basel | |
07:12 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is -1.0°C (8:00 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
07:14 | cait | hi mveron :) |
07:14 | did you get snow? | |
07:14 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
07:15 | No snow, snowy rain... | |
07:15 | cait | ah |
07:15 | coworker near schaffhausen reports lots of snow | |
07:16 | mveron | @wunder schaffhausen |
07:16 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Schaffhausen, Schaffhausen, Switzerland is -1.2°C (8:02 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
07:21 | cait | hm |
07:21 | my git says dirty index | |
07:21 | oh, I see | |
07:27 | soled | |
07:27 | solved even | |
07:28 | magnuse | cait++ |
07:29 | cait | hm? |
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07:30 | magnuse | cait: for solving problems |
07:30 | cait | mveron++ rangi++ early morning/evening sign offs |
07:31 | mveron | Thanks, cait :-) |
07:31 | BRB | |
07:31 | alex_a | bonjour |
07:31 | wahanui | privet, alex_a |
07:35 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
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07:36 | reiveune | hello |
07:36 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
07:36 | reiveune | bonjour cait :) |
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07:43 | alex_a | hello cait |
07:44 | cait | oh wow |
07:44 | suddenly, we got snow | |
07:44 | a lot even | |
07:45 | of course... I have to leave for work now... and it starts snowing. | |
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07:47 | rangi | thanks for the retweet about catalyst clrh |
07:47 | jajm | good morning #koha |
07:48 | rangi | hi jajm |
07:48 | cait | bbiab |
07:49 | jajm | hi rangi |
07:49 | hi cait | |
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08:11 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:11 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
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08:20 | kf | good morning #koha |
08:20 | rangi | wb kf |
08:20 | kf | thx rangi |
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08:33 | clrh | rangi: you're welcome, happy to see catalyst as a drupalcon sponsor ^^ |
08:37 | rangi | we've sponsored a few in the past |
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08:48 | rangi | i have no idea what that guy is doing to his cron jobs, but it's all wrong whatever it is |
08:51 | kf | probably |
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09:36 | samuel | hi everybody |
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09:36 | kf | hi samuel |
09:39 | samuel | i'v solved my problems correctly for item, our base run but there's something trouble: when i enter barcode , i've this message "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 3008, <DATA> line 581." but in circulation history, i find my book. |
09:39 | something may miss in my configuration but where? | |
09:47 | kf | samuel: what do youmean by circulation history? |
09:47 | and where are you entering the barcode when it's not found? | |
09:51 | samuel | oups, my translation is not good. I choose a borrower, i have the page "checking out to Mr ....", i enter item barcode and i've this error. |
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09:54 | samuel | i think i have to look at my zebra configuration; |
09:54 | rangi | circulation doesnt use zebra |
09:55 | and with that, i am going to sleep :) | |
09:55 | samuel | good night :-) |
09:56 | kf | what rangi said |
09:56 | check the barcode is in your items table | |
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09:56 | kf | I think there is something wrong with your data |
09:56 | how did you add the items? | |
09:57 | samuel | with marc-mir, i've fixed the problem i had last week |
09:57 | kf | so you added the items to your marc records? |
09:58 | and how did you get them imported? using staged marc import? | |
09:58 | samuel | bulkmarcimport |
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09:58 | kf | ok |
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09:58 | kf | so you imported them into an empty datbase? |
09:58 | did you rebuild your zebra index? | |
09:59 | samuel | yes, of course and i've rebuild my zebra index but i've doubt, i will check my configuration |
10:00 | kf | did you check the entry in the items table for the barcode you tried? |
10:00 | samuel | the import worked very well (we have many records without barcodes but it's another story) |
10:02 | link between item and record are ok | |
10:04 | kf | hm |
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10:06 | ryzasss | hi |
10:06 | kf | samuel: sorry, running out of ideas here, but hard to see what's going wrong from here |
10:06 | hi ryzasss | |
10:06 | ryzasss | I have a problem maybe somebody could help |
10:07 | samuel | kf: this link http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]ue-td3048066.html give me some ideas |
10:09 | magnuse | samuel: did you check the marc record? to me "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value" sounds like a problem with the record. like koha looking for a field/subfield that is not in the record |
10:11 | samuel | good idea, i'll make a test. |
10:11 | magnuse | samuel: and what does /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 3008 do (in your version)? |
10:11 | kf | magnuseüü |
10:12 | magnuse++ sorry typoed :) | |
10:12 | samuel | magnuse: i'll check |
10:12 | ryzasss | I am trying to install Koha on ubuntu. On instalation guide i reached the point. Web installion> here i am stuck ,, lynx http://library-intra.framisdooby.org:80 it redirects me to maitenance and stops working |
10:12 | Pls some advice | |
10:13 | magnuse | ryzasss: you need to access the admin interface |
10:13 | probably replace :80 with :8080 at the end of the url | |
10:13 | kf | ^^ what he said :) |
10:14 | magnuse | hm, library-intra should probably be the intranet? but the maintenance message certainly comes from the opac |
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10:36 | drojf | hi #koha |
10:37 | magnuse | hiya drojf and reiveune |
10:37 | drojf | hey magnuse |
10:39 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
10:39 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -4.4°C (11:13 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
11:00 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
11:00 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 0.0°C (11:55 AM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Rising). |
11:00 | kf | hi drojf |
11:00 | drojf | hi kf |
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11:29 | tts | hw can i set up restriction on not allowing other library staff to edit biblios of other libraries |
11:29 | if there are multiple libraries | |
12:00 | kf | tts: independentbranches |
12:00 | ah too late | |
12:01 | magnuse | but records are shared no matter what you set independentbranches to, right? |
12:03 | kf | magnuse: yes, only helps for items. |
12:03 | you are right | |
12:05 | magnuse | good :-) |
12:05 | (in the sense that i recall correctly) | |
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12:33 | jwagner | quit |
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13:09 | oleonard | Hello #koha |
13:09 | kf | good morning oleonard |
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14:06 | H | is there a spot in koha where you can change the email adres used when he sends something ? |
14:07 | or is that done outside koha | |
14:07 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
14:07 | H | hey |
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14:07 | jcamins | There's a syspref. |
14:07 | KohaAdminEmail or something like that. | |
14:09 | H | found it |
14:09 | oleonard | Is that not set by the install process? |
14:09 | H | testing |
14:09 | jcamins | oleonard: no. |
14:09 | * oleonard | doesn't install often enough |
14:14 | kf | morning jcamins |
14:15 | jcamins | Morning. |
14:15 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
14:20 | oleonard | cat, dog, chickens, children, etc. |
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14:39 | oleonard | Wow Bug 8661 has turned out to be a huge pain in the ass. |
14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8661 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , break out additional authors in opac like in staff |
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14:41 | kf | oleonard: I am sorry for that :( |
14:41 | oleonard | Not your fault of course. |
14:41 | jcamins | Hey, has anyone noticed authors not having any spaces in their names? |
14:41 | kf | it had to wait for some time |
14:42 | I tried looking at the conflict, but was not sure how to fixit and the entities were really irritating me | |
14:42 | jcamins: huh? :) | |
14:43 | jcamins | I don't have an example, but a few times I've seen screenshots of Koha installations where all the words in authors' names are run together without spaces. |
14:43 | magnuse | kf: i think the entities are part of the xslt logic? because you cant say x>1 in xslt |
14:44 | jcamins | Yeah, the entities are correct. |
14:44 | kf | ah |
14:44 | magnuse | ...without making it invalid xslt |
14:44 | kf | I didn't know that |
14:44 | oleonard | jcamins: Eliminating spaces saves catalogers valuable time otherwise spent hitting the space bar? |
14:44 | kf | all good then, only a conflict to fix.... hope a not too hard one |
14:45 | jcamins | oleonard: heh. |
14:45 | kf | jcamins: can't remember seeing it - but I think we have some inconsistencies in the xslt files |
14:45 | regardng spaces | |
14:46 | oleonard | jcamins: When my library first started adding records to an electronic catalog the data-entry people were told to use all caps to save time |
14:46 | jcamins | That's horrible! |
14:46 | kf | ouch. |
14:46 | jcamins | Funny, but horrible. |
14:46 | oleonard | Luckily those were real MARC records back then |
14:47 | were *not* | |
14:48 | magnuse | no worries, you can just run ucfirst on it ;-) |
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14:49 | jcamins | magnuse: no! Bad magnuse! :P |
14:49 | magnuse | moahaha |
14:51 | kf | does someone know if newer koha versions log categorytype ni statistics? |
14:52 | jcamins | I do not know. |
14:53 | lms | Hello! |
14:53 | kf | hi lms |
14:55 | lms | Does anyone know how to put a new field in "Koha to MARC mapping"? I'm using UNIMARC and koha uses 995 but I want to use 966 |
14:56 | jcamins | manual? |
14:56 | wahanui | i heard manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
14:56 | jcamins | ^^ the manual should have a section on Koha to MARC mappings. |
14:56 | However, I'd strongly recommend against changing the item mapping. | |
14:57 | * kf | seconds that |
14:57 | * magnuse | too |
14:57 | kf | lms: you will end up getting very disappointed with yourself if you do that. |
14:57 | lms: the search will not be working. | |
14:57 | lms: well the search for item relevant data like barcode, you will have to edit files to make that work and it going to explode at every update you ever make | |
14:58 | lms | hmm, ok. thank you all |
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15:06 | alefas | hi i would like to ask how can i set koha interface to greek language? |
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15:07 | alefas | are there info about this anywhere in the web? |
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15:09 | jcamins | translations? |
15:09 | wahanui | translations is probably http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
15:09 | jcamins | installing translations? |
15:09 | i18n? | |
15:09 | alefas | yes |
15:09 | jcamins | alefas: our bot doesn't seem to have a link. |
15:09 | alefas | for koha 3.10 |
15:09 | jcamins | It will take me a few minutes to find it. |
15:09 | Those questions were for the bot, not you. :) | |
15:10 | installing translations is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client | |
15:10 | installing translations? | |
15:10 | wahanui | installing translations is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ANET_staff_client |
15:10 | jcamins | Now our bot knows. :) |
15:10 | That page has instructions. | |
15:10 | kf | jcamins++ :) |
15:12 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
15:12 | jcamins | You know, when answering people on mibbit I should tell them not to just click links. |
15:13 | rambutan | @wunder 64507 |
15:13 | huginn | rambutan: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is -9.9°C (9:13 AM CST on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -12.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.56 in 1035 hPa (Rising). |
15:15 | rambutan | 500 people on #reprap. Think it has downed xchat. Need restart |
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15:18 | oleonard | #reprap? |
15:18 | rambutan | 3D printing http://www.reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page |
15:19 | one of the most active "productivity" channels I've seen. There is a lot of low-level dev work there | |
15:19 | magnuse | "RepRap is humanity's first general-purpose self-replicating manufacturing machine. " |
15:20 | rambutan | #reprap is on freenode |
15:20 | oleonard | I wasn't much interested in 3D printing until I found a site offering the pattern to a tiny part I need for my graphics tablet stylus which would otherwise require a $70 replacement |
15:21 | jcamins | oleonard: so you're buying a thousand dollar printer? |
15:21 | rambutan | yep, one of the big selling points for 3D printing. |
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15:21 | oleonard | jcamins: Better yet, making friends with someone with access to one? |
15:21 | Still haven't done that though ;) | |
15:22 | rambutan | I predict it will become quite valuable in the future for printing (older?) car parts |
15:23 | jcamins | Someone should print a Raspberry Pi case. |
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15:27 | rambutan | there are several Pi case patterns out there |
15:29 | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:16104 | |
15:29 | jcamins | Hehe. Thingiverse. |
15:30 | Someone was not feeling very creative when they came up with that. | |
15:30 | Cool! | |
15:30 | oleonard | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:26685 |
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15:31 | kf | jcamins: you could ask dpavlin |
15:31 | the only problem might be shipping :) | |
15:32 | drojf biult his out of a plasctic box with lid I think | |
15:32 | jcamins | kf: I can make one myself, I just think that a printed one would be cooler. |
15:33 | rambutan | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:30563 especially the image with 4 mounted Pi's. Looks like a poor implementation of a good idea (Pi cluster case) |
15:54 | vfernandes | hello :) |
15:55 | jcamins | Hello. |
16:00 | I just learned that there are some counties in the US that are in more than one state. | |
16:01 | Oh, I see. | |
16:02 | They're not anymore. | |
16:07 | rambutan | Yea, they tend to wander around like that sometimes. |
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16:34 | reiveune | bye |
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16:53 | rambutan | I need some help--I normally don't do any admin within Koha, but my TS supervisor is gone and I need to give a staff member, currently with just regular patron privileges, access to the staff interface. |
16:53 | where do I do that? | |
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16:55 | jcamins | View the patron record, then click on the More button and "Set permissions." |
16:55 | rambutan | tnx |
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17:25 | gerundio | hi, how can I disable ISBD view in OPAC? |
17:25 | jatara | Hi, all. Does anyone know why the reports page prints out in teeny tiny font on some computers but not on others? |
17:25 | gerundio | I only found one preference "viewISBD" but that's just for the staff client |
17:26 | jatara, can you give an example? | |
17:26 | do people use the same browser across the different computers? | |
17:27 | jcamins | gerundio: you could hide the button with CSS/Javascript. |
17:28 | jatara | It's hard to explain, but my librarians are running a customized report that I created. Some people are reporting that it prints out in teeny tiny font and others (like me) find the size is perfectly adequate. I do have a copy of the teeny tiny font report and it's indeed printing that way, but not on my computer |
17:28 | jcamins | I don't see any syspref for changing it. |
17:28 | jatara | We are a school district. All our settings are the same, including browsers. |
17:28 | jcamins | jatara: that's going to be a local configuration problem. |
17:28 | jatara | where? |
17:28 | jcamins | Something to do with your printer settings. |
17:28 | cait | jatara: maybe they set some print setting to reduce it to one page or 80% or something? |
17:29 | jatara: it often happens to me when I do that on purpose that it sticks for later printouts | |
17:29 | jcamins | Those seem like good guesses. |
17:29 | jatara | Nope. Another person and I printed to the same printer -- got two completely different sizes. |
17:29 | cait | browser settings for printers |
17:29 | not settings from the printer | |
17:29 | jcamins | Printer settings on your computer. |
17:30 | cait | if you go to print and then... settings... I only know how it's called in german |
17:30 | jcamins | I can't give you any more specific advice than that because the last time I used Windows for printing something, XP was new enough that companies weren't upgrading. |
17:30 | cait | 'seite einrichten' |
17:31 | jatara | That's not possible. I have one person reports she gets both regular size and teeny tiny size on same report, same computer, same printer. |
17:31 | gerundio | jcamins++ |
17:31 | cait | jatara: I think we can be pretty sure it's not koha... so it must be something done locally. |
17:31 | jcamins | jatara: in that case it has nothing to do with Koha. |
17:32 | Koha just uses the browser's print functionality. | |
17:32 | jatara | All right. Thanks so much! |
17:32 | jcamins | I'd try and watch the librarian, see if she does anything different between when it works and when it doesn't. |
17:33 | With print preview/without print preview or something like that. | |
17:33 | (does Windows have print preview?) | |
17:33 | (it must) | |
17:36 | jatara | Firefox has print preview so that's something to look at |
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17:55 | gerundio | jcamins, it does :p |
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18:13 | jcamins | There are two major open source discovery interfaces. |
18:13 | Vufind and... | |
18:13 | help? | |
18:13 | wahanui | rumour has it help is at http://koha-community.org/support/ if no-one here can help |
18:13 | jcamins | Thanks, wahanui. |
18:13 | wahanui | sure thing jcamins |
18:14 | jcamins | Blacklight! |
18:20 | * drojf | turns on the blacklight and hangs up a disco ball for jcamins |
18:20 | jcamins | What is it they shout at discos? "Relevance ranking, baby"? |
18:20 | drojf | lol |
18:21 | how is the raspberry pi business going? | |
18:21 | jcamins | drojf: I have Koha running on it using nginx and Starman. |
18:21 | drojf | sweet |
18:22 | jcamins | And the Koha catalog is automatically advertised using Zeroconf. |
18:23 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
18:24 | jcamins | @karma |
18:24 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (720), "oleonard" (612), and "jcamins" (485). Lowest karma: "<!" (-114), "failed" (-98), and "-" (-69). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2348. |
18:24 | jcamins | @karma jcamins_away |
18:24 | huginn | jcamins: Karma for "jcamins_away" has been increased 20 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 20. |
18:24 | drojf | cool! so when are you getting the next one? :D |
18:24 | jcamins | lol |
18:24 | Not for a while. | |
18:25 | My next Raspberry Pi is going to be used for building an absurdly over-functional multimeter. | |
18:25 | drojf | excellent idea :D |
18:25 | jcamins | I have a caliper with a serial port, so I decided that I should hook it up to a Raspberry Pi. |
18:25 | Then I thought "why stop there?" | |
18:26 | drojf | lol. never stop ;) |
18:26 | jcamins | So I have decided I need a Raspberry Pi that supports precise distance measurements using the caliper, temperature measurements using a thermocouple, all the functionality one generally expects from an electrical multimeter, a hygrometer... |
18:27 | Also very tempting is a laser distance finder. | |
18:27 | And no, you are not mistaken in thinking that I don't do anything that would require _any_ of these devices. | |
18:27 | drojf | perfect! |
18:28 | everybody should be able to measure a lot of stuff. just in case | |
18:28 | jcamins | Also under consideration is my own Pi-controlled amateur radio tranceiver. |
18:28 | drojf | :) |
18:29 | jcamins | Because everyone needs a Pi-controlled amateur radio tranceiver, especially if they don't like talking on radios because they're shy. |
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18:30 | drojf | i hope they will put on a faster cpu at some point, it's really no fun enrypting a harddisk at the moment. i wanted to have one serving files and torrenting, but it takes ages to check the files :( |
18:30 | jcamins | Heh. |
18:30 | You should just build your own! | |
18:30 | drojf | decrypting even |
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18:32 | jcamins | drojf: http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1672220.pdf |
18:35 | drojf | 4x1ghz? that sounds capable |
18:36 | jcamins | 4x1.2ghz |
18:36 | Runs Squeeze, Wheezy, or Ubuntu 12.10. | |
18:37 | Now you just have to get dpavlin to print you up a case and you're good to go! | |
18:37 | drojf | heh |
18:39 | jcamins | Or, of course, you could just write your own OS. |
18:40 | drojf | of course, who wouldn't? |
18:42 | * jcamins | worked with a custom real-time OS once. |
18:42 | jcamins | It was kind of weird. |
18:44 | I prefer regular OSes. | |
18:45 | drojf | how conservative ;) |
18:46 | * cait | waves |
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19:04 | rangi | morning |
19:05 | jcamins | Morning. |
19:05 | wahanui | hmmm... morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
19:05 | jcamins | Question for you (anyone): does "synchronous index updates" make sense? |
19:06 | libsysguy | does that mean indexes that happen instantly? |
19:06 | jcamins | Yes. |
19:06 | libsysguy | then yes |
19:06 | it does :) | |
19:06 | jcamins | Yay! |
19:06 | libsysguy | BUT I think you should have to raise a pinky while saying it |
19:06 | jcamins | What I had written was "and indexing happens immediately when a record is updated," but that sounds dumb. |
19:06 | lol | |
19:07 | rangi | how about |
19:07 | indexing happens immediately | |
19:08 | or updated records are indexed immediately | |
19:08 | libsysguy | if it is synchronous I would expect it would block all other indexes |
19:08 | jcamins | Ooh, that last one fits the sentence perfectly, thanks! |
19:09 | * libsysguy | is having a debate with himself about synchronous vs asynchronous |
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19:25 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
19:25 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (8:00 AM NZDT on January 15, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Falling). |
19:27 | cait | I like the sentence that doesn't use the unspellable word :) |
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19:33 | rangi | new irc stats |
19:33 | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ | |
19:34 | * cait | fears the worst |
19:34 | cait | oh, it's not as bad as last time :) |
19:35 | oleonard | Bad? |
19:35 | libsysguy | rangi sure is a chatty Cathy :p |
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19:36 | jcamins | Ooh, I'm catching up to kados! |
19:37 | oleonard | rangi: You'll need to merge rambutan and rhcl |
19:37 | rangi | hmm true |
19:39 | oleonard | "reiveune wrote the shortest lines, averaging 8.7 characters per line." Because he mostly only says "Bye" :) |
19:40 | jcamins | Hehe. |
19:41 | oleonard | rangi++ # For collecting stats! |
19:41 | cait | rangi++ :) |
19:41 | rangi | ill rerun combining rambutan and rhcl |
19:45 | done | |
19:46 | ok, time to take atarau to kindergarten cyas | |
20:00 | cait | hm |
20:00 | question for native speakers | |
20:00 | jcamins | No. |
20:00 | Yes. | |
20:00 | cait | are we using Copyright date or publication date in koha? |
20:00 | jcamins | Maybe. |
20:00 | cait | ssh |
20:00 | jcamins | Both. |
20:00 | cait | ok |
20:00 | what is appropriate for the suggestions form | |
20:00 | jcamins | Copyright date = 260$c and publication date = 008/whatever |
20:00 | It's silly. | |
20:00 | Hm. | |
20:00 | Publication date. | |
20:02 | cait | *sigh* |
20:02 | the patch uses copyright all over | |
20:03 | well at least it resolves the mix we have now | |
20:03 | jcamins | Heh. |
20:03 | cait | only I was tending omre in direction of publication date too |
20:47 | eythian | hi |
20:47 | wahanui | que tal, eythian |
20:50 | cait | morning eythian :) |
20:51 | eythian | howdy |
20:51 | wahanui | hi, eythian |
20:58 | rambutan | wahanui: Bug 7241 |
20:58 | wahanui | rambutan: sorry... |
20:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number |
21:01 | eythian | wahanui: why did \you do it is <reply>to impress Jodie Foster |
21:01 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
21:01 | eythian | wahanui: why did you do it? |
21:01 | wahanui | eythian: i haven't a clue |
21:01 | eythian | wahanui: why did you do it |
21:01 | wahanui | eythian: huh? |
21:01 | eythian | oh well |
21:08 | oleonard | See ya #koha |
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21:16 | cjh | MrAgent075: welcome! |
21:16 | MrAgent075 | Hi |
21:16 | wizzyrea1 joined #koha | |
21:17 | cait | hi cjh |
21:17 | hi wizzyrea | |
21:17 | academy students today? | |
21:17 | wizzyrea | everybody say hi to MrAgent075 - we hope he'll be #200 |
21:17 | ah yep | |
21:17 | cjh | cait: MrAgent075 is our academy student :) |
21:17 | MrAgent075 | Guilty as Charged. |
21:17 | jcamins | MrAgent075: welcome! |
21:17 | cait | oh nice :) |
21:18 | hi MrAgent075 | |
21:18 | MrAgent075 | Hey Everybody! Thanks for the Welcoming Messages, I hope to be here for sometime. :) |
21:20 | wizzyrea | ok fine 199. |
21:20 | :) | |
21:20 | * wizzyrea | was hoping for 200 |
21:21 | cait | jcamins: we need cookies for our guest - you should bake some :) |
21:21 | * cjh | already gave MrAgent075 a cookie |
21:22 | cait | heh ok |
21:22 | jcamins | I just baked cookies yesterday! |
21:22 | However, after this proposal I think I might have to bake more! | |
21:22 | cjh | jcamins: how long does shipping take from <insert where jcamins lives> |
21:23 | jcamins | cjh: you live in NZ. The cookies would be confiscated by customs! |
21:23 | * MrAgent075 | has also recieved a "healthy dose" of muffins. 3 of them in fact. |
21:23 | cait | wow |
21:23 | wizzyrea | yea, that's a bit of a hassle |
21:24 | cait | jcamins: if you packaged them nicely... maybe could get them through customs |
21:24 | I brought in lots of chocolate :) | |
21:24 | jcamins | Yeah, but it was pre-packaged. |
21:25 | * MrAgent075 | had problems importing cookies. Shipping broke most cookies in half, or in little crumbs. |
21:26 | cait | MrAgent075: what are they trying to make you do? :P |
21:29 | jcamins | bug 9108 |
21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9108 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add uk/euro date sort filter to pages which require it |
21:41 | cait | :) |
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21:52 | MrAgent075 | cait: They are getting me to work on Accessibility. |
21:52 | cait | oh nice :) |
21:54 | * jcamins | hums "but it's not against any religion to dispose of a pigeon" |
21:54 | jcamins | Tom Lehrer. Truly a brilliant artist. |
21:55 | cait | oh? |
21:56 | dracoling | jcamins: I think my sister still has a shrinkwrap machine, we could totally make professional packaging for your cookies. |
21:56 | jcamins | dracoling: I feel like they might notice. |
21:56 | cait | you only need nice labels and packaging :) |
21:56 | rambutan | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Lehrer - before my time |
21:56 | jcamins | "A gift from the Camins Cookie Consortium"? |
21:56 | cait | mine wereonly nicely wrapped |
21:56 | not shrink wrapped even | |
21:57 | jcamins | rambutan: before mine too. |
21:57 | eythian | jcamins: I think baking tends to be OK |
21:57 | it's raw that's an issue | |
21:57 | just saying... | |
21:57 | jcamins | But I got to thinking about "Fight fiercely Harvard," and that led me into a Tom Lehrer spike. |
21:58 | rambutan | I desperately crave some Caldo de Pollo |
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22:05 | cjh | cait: we are looking at accessibility for the intranet side |
22:05 | cait: particularly regarding visually impaired users | |
22:05 | cait | cjh: that's awesome |
22:05 | wizzyrea | cait did you tell me you had a visually impaired librarian at one of your libraris? |
22:05 | cait | yes |
22:06 | wizzyrea | awesome - what areas do they have the most problem in? |
22:06 | cait | 2 very hard things |
22:06 | sequence of fields in cataloging | |
22:06 | * wizzyrea | just knows you are going to say "acquisitions" |
22:06 | cait | the indicators and fields are read in the wrong sequence |
22:06 | wizzyrea | ew yea |
22:06 | but we are not touching cataloging :/ | |
22:06 | cait | and pull down menus with yui :( |
22:06 | she can't use them | |
22:06 | wizzyrea | oh yea pulldowns are terribad |
22:07 | jcamins | cait: you make it sound like there might be anything right about cataloging. |
22:07 | cait | jcamins: we don't use it really ;) |
22:07 | jcamins | Heh. |
22:07 | cait | well, actually this library does |
22:07 | they have a lot of locally catalogued materials | |
22:08 | wizzyrea: I was hoping the jquery menu would come along and make things better, but it seems even oleonard gave up on it | |
22:08 | maybe providing a nicer fallback could be done somehow | |
22:08 | not sure | |
22:09 | eythian | oh yeah, we've had the menu thing come up. The cart dropdown is not usable on the OPAC either |
22:09 | cait | I think the fallback for the cart is, that it's not even there if you have no javascript |
22:10 | but if you have javascript at some rate.... it's probably a problem | |
22:10 | libsysguy: around? | |
22:10 | libsysguy | yes? |
22:11 | cait | could you take a look at bug 9126 maybe? |
22:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9126 critical, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Receiving orders create too much items |
22:11 | cait | it#s from biblibr and I have signed off.... so that limits our options somehow :) |
22:11 | and it's a critical bug | |
22:11 | libsysguy | :'( |
22:11 | cait | why are you giving me the sad smiley? |
22:12 | libsysguy | I'm using my test box for writing selenium test atm |
22:12 | cait | it has a nice test plan!! |
22:12 | libsysguy | hehe |
22:12 | let me save and apply | |
22:13 | cait | and it's not big code changes |
22:13 | cool thx | |
22:14 | cjh | cait: sorry back, yeah pulldowns from menu in yui are useless with screen readers |
22:14 | cait | terribad. |
22:14 | cjh | they appears as links (ie 'more') and the dropdown isnt near, not sure if we can fix that though. |
22:14 | cait | yeah I thought it was difficult |
22:14 | cjh | what we are looking at first is circ feedback, as many of the messages are ages away from the input field and are not headers (so difficult to find) |
22:14 | cait | those are the 2 main things that were reported to me... and both not easy |
22:15 | cjh: I think every bit of improvement will be great :) | |
22:16 | hm only 10 more to catch up to jonathan... | |
22:17 | cjh | possibly for the dropdown we could replace yui and write our own js that does it 'right' |
22:17 | all it would really involve is making the html close and obvious, prob also adding context to the dropdown ie 'more tools (dropdown)' | |
22:18 | cait | making some first notes on a bug woudl be good too I think |
22:18 | ok :) sleep time here | |
22:18 | bye all :) | |
22:19 | cjh | goodnight! |
22:20 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
22:20 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (11:00 PM CET on January 14, 2013). Conditions: Snow Grains. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
22:20 | cait | snow grains... hm. |
22:20 | libsysguy | cait I have a clean install and for whatever reason i keep getting an error to define a budget even though one is defined |
22:20 | cait | is your budget marked active? |
22:20 | libsysguy | si |
22:20 | err yes | |
22:20 | cait | there is a little checkbox |
22:21 | do you have a fund defined for your budget? | |
22:21 | libsysguy | yes |
22:21 | cait | that is current (start time - end time) |
22:21 | hm | |
22:21 | jcamins | libsysguy: wait a few weeks and it'll magically start working. |
22:21 | cait | try makig the user your own library |
22:21 | jcamins | Yes, I'm serious. |
22:21 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
22:21 | cait | the library you are loggedin with/home library of your user |
22:21 | libsysguy | well i am the admin user |
22:21 | eythian | don't be the admin user |
22:21 | jcamins | Yeah, that won't work. |
22:22 | cait | yep |
22:22 | libsysguy | soab |
22:22 | cait | never be the admin user |
22:22 | soab? | |
22:22 | jcamins | Also, you still might need to just wait. |
22:22 | libsysguy | cait its profanity :p |
22:22 | cait | acq is especially picky about that |
22:22 | cjh | cait: son of a b.... |
22:22 | cait | aaaah |
22:22 | libsysguy | yes |
22:22 | eythian | admin user should only be used for admin tasks |
22:22 | * libsysguy | doesn't want to not be the root user :p |
22:22 | cjh | heh |
22:22 | eythian | many things just don't work |
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22:23 | libsysguy | i think that is the case with or without being the admin user :p |
22:23 | cait | can you show me a screenshot of your fund? |
22:23 | on your acq start page | |
22:23 | do you see a fund in the table? | |
22:23 | libsysguy | it has to be because of the admin user thing |
22:24 | jcamins | libsysguy: it's working now? |
22:25 | libsysguy | it may…after I define a patron cateogry, create a patron etc |
22:25 | what a pita | |
22:25 | wahanui | a pita is pain in the arse or a kind of bread, usually with pockets |
22:26 | jcamins | lol |
22:27 | libsysguy | ah yup, didn't like root |
22:28 | wizzyrea | version control using git |
22:28 | wahanui | hmmm... version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
22:28 | jcamins | oh no |
22:28 | no | |
22:28 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
22:28 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
22:28 | wizzyrea | report library |
22:28 | wahanui | well, report library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
22:28 | jcamins | I can't remember the cue for the funny picture eythian taught wahanui. |
22:29 | eythian | neither can I |
22:29 | wizzyrea | sighs. slackers. |
22:29 | jcamins | me? |
22:29 | wahanui | you are, like, very, very irascible |
22:29 | jcamins | me? |
22:29 | wahanui | somebody said jcamins was RM for 3.12, and just about the only one crazy enough to work on major projects in both authorities and search. |
22:31 | cait | me? |
22:31 | wahanui | you are qam, not your secretary |
22:32 | cait | libsysguy: that's why I try to avoid resetting my database all that often... |
22:32 | libsysguy | I had to for the nginx code :'( |
22:32 | * cait | sends you a cooki |
22:32 | cait | e |
22:32 | really have to go now :) bye again all :) | |
22:32 | libsysguy | aww thanks |
22:32 | later | |
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23:14 | wizzyrea | me? |
23:14 | wahanui | rumour has it wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans |
23:14 | wizzyrea | KEKE |
23:53 | MrAgent075 | Does anyone have an opinion on which size is better? |
23:53 | Either http://academy13.catalyst.net.nz/option1.png OR http://academy13.catalyst.net.nz/option12png | |
23:53 | *http://academy13.catalyst.net.nz/option2.png | |
23:54 | jcamins | I don't think I have a strong preference. |
23:56 | wizzyrea | i wish oleonard was around |
23:59 | rambutan | no opinion (OK, maybe just ever so slight for #1) |
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