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| 00:39 | Manderson joined #koha | |
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| 01:19 | mmm45 joined #koha | |
| 01:19 | mmm45 | hello |
| 01:20 | i visited here for some help on Friday and I was given this command: UPDATE `koha`.`aqinvoices` SET `invoicenumber` = '<num>' WHERE `aqinvoices`.`invoiceid` = <id>; | |
| 01:20 | to change an incorrect invoice number | |
| 01:21 | the problem is that i do not appear to have an aqinvoices table | |
| 01:21 | right now i using koha v 3.09 (working on moving away from this version) | |
| 01:22 | is there another equivalent table in this particular version? | |
| 01:26 | trea | so what do you see when you run show tables ? |
| 01:28 | mmm45 | these are in the aq listing |
| 01:28 | | aqbasket | | aqbasketgroups | | aqbooksellers | | aqbudgetperiods | | aqbudgets | | aqbudgets_planning | | aqcontract | | aqorderdelivery | | aqorders | |
| 01:29 | and aqorders_items | |
| 01:38 | wizzyrea | well aqinvoices is definitely in 3.10 |
| 01:38 | the first question? | |
| 01:38 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 01:39 | mmm45 | right now my library is using 3.09 and one of the librarians made a mistake with some invoices |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | so it must be a feature that was introduced between when you got your clone of 3.09 |
| 01:39 | mmm45 | with our version there is no way to change that without using mysql |
| 01:39 | wizzyrea | because 3.09 isn't a released version |
| 01:40 | sorry, between when you got your clone, and when 3.10 was released | |
| 01:40 | mmm45 | right, i believe i was told 3.09 is a dev version |
| 01:41 | wizzyrea | yep it is |
| 01:41 | so the real question is - where is the data you need to fix kept. | |
| 01:42 | mmm45 | exactly :-( |
| 01:42 | i am about to go mental | |
| 01:51 | Zeki joined #koha | |
| 01:51 | Zeki | Hi |
| 01:51 | dood morning | |
| 01:51 | good morning | |
| 01:51 | i have a problem with crontab setting | |
| 01:52 | anyone can help about it? | |
| 01:55 | eythian | ask? |
| 01:55 | wahanui | Don't ask to ask, just ask. |
| 01:57 | Zeki | sure, |
| 01:57 | I am using ubuntu server with koha 3.10.01 | |
| 01:58 | when I add a book into catolog zebra indexing not doing automaticly | |
| 01:58 | I need to manually it | |
| 01:59 | eythian | how have you installed koha? |
| 01:59 | Zeki | I followed the installation |
| 01:59 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_ubuntu_-_tarball | |
| 02:00 | eythian | ah, I'm not too familiar with the tarball method. But you should check to make sure the cronjob is set up exactly according to the instructions |
| 02:00 | Zeki | then I have these errors in the syslog |
| 02:02 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 7 09:41:01 src-library CRO" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/344 |
| 02:02 | Zeki | I followed exactly |
| 02:03 | when i use this script " /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl –v –b –a | |
| 02:03 | manually books can be added into catolog | |
| 02:04 | eythian | OK, so there's two problems there. One is that you don't have an MTA, so the errors from cron are going away, and the other is that I don't think you have followed the instructions exactly, as your cron jobs are running twice: once as user tuyan and once as user root. |
| 02:04 | Zeki | yeah |
| 02:04 | eythian | But if you install an configure an MTA then you will get the error messages for at least some of it. |
| 02:05 | Zeki | what do I need to do? |
| 02:05 | wizzyrea | I suspect that when it runs as root, it's overwriting the permissions |
| 02:05 | or when it's running as tuyan it's overwriting the permissions on the indexes | |
| 02:05 | eythian | yes, I would expect something like that to happen. |
| 02:06 | Zeki | yeah |
| 02:06 | eythian | Zeki: what user should koha be running as? Normally it's 'koha' |
| 02:06 | Zeki | yes koha |
| 02:06 | wizzyrea | so what you need to do |
| 02:06 | is eliminate the cronjobs from both user tuyan and root | |
| 02:07 | and re-enable them as user koha | |
| 02:07 | then make sure the indexes are owned by koha:koha | |
| 02:07 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]re_Zebra_Indexing |
| 02:08 | Zeki | ok. |
| 02:08 | can I check with you about this? | |
| 02:08 | i saw the crontab setting in this folder" /var/spool/cron/crontabs" | |
| 02:08 | is it correct one? | |
| 02:09 | wizzyrea | do you actually have a koha user? |
| 02:09 | Zeki | yes I do |
| 02:09 | eythian | Zeki: the instructions I linked tell you where to set it up |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | /etc/cron.d/koha |
| 02:10 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Configure Zebra Indexing Add a" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/345 |
| 02:10 | Zeki | because when I follow this instruction |
| 02:10 | wizzyrea | did you read the text below that |
| 02:11 | Zeki | crontab setting is created in this folder " /etc/cron.d/koha |
| 02:11 | wizzyrea | you didn't crontab -e as root? |
| 02:11 | for example? | |
| 02:11 | (you wouldn't want to do that) | |
| 02:12 | eythian | Zeki: it is correct for it to be in that file. |
| 02:13 | Zeki | but I think this file doing nothing "dont /etc/cron.d/koha |
| 02:13 | but I think this file doing nothing in this folder" /etc/cron.d/koha | |
| 02:13 | eythian | why would you think that? |
| 02:13 | Zeki | because in syslog there is nothing related with that file |
| 02:14 | eythian | the cron daemon will find things in there. If you have a look, you'll see lots of applications put their stuff there. |
| 02:14 | Zeki | I tried changed scrpit in file nothing happen |
| 02:15 | eythian | you don't have an MTA set up anyway, so you wouldn't have got any error messages. |
| 02:15 | Zeki | but when I changed in this folder file " /var/spool/cron/crontabs" |
| 02:15 | setting i can see some changes in syslog | |
| 02:15 | eythian | yeah, when you changed that, you started doing things differently and process will run with the wrong user ids. |
| 02:16 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 02:16 | Zeki | yeah I understand it |
| 02:18 | eythian | trust me, in any normal system, putting files in /etc/cron.d/something will work. |
| 02:18 | Zeki | but look this file "/etc/cron.d/koha "no effect |
| 02:18 | eythian | it's how it's done on all the systems we use. |
| 02:18 | If for some reason your system is being strange, you can edit /etc/crontab directly and put things in there. | |
| 02:19 | But you really really shouldn't have to. | |
| 02:20 | Zeki | yeah |
| 02:21 | eythian | It's not recommended that you alter /var/spool/cronjobs/* directly. |
| 02:21 | or at all for Koha stuff | |
| 02:21 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "# /etc/crontab: system-wide cr" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/346 |
| 02:21 | Zeki | my crontac setting this |
| 02:21 | my crontab setting this | |
| 02:22 | eythian | that's a standard crontab, yes |
| 02:22 | I would remove the rebuild_zebra lines from the crontabs you've put it in first though | |
| 02:22 | otherwise you _will_ have problems. | |
| 02:23 | Zeki | yeah |
| 02:24 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "# The cronjobs -- $KOHA_PATH i" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/347 |
| 02:24 | eythian | that won't work |
| 02:24 | Zeki | this one is "/etc/cron.d/koha |
| 02:24 | eythian | because you have two lines where there should be one |
| 02:24 | */5 * * * * koha | |
| 02:24 | $KOHA_PATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z &> /dev/null | |
| 02:24 | that should be one line | |
| 02:25 | Zeki | yeah ok |
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| 02:25 | eythian | probably why you had no results from it |
| 02:27 | Zeki | I also tried one line before |
| 02:27 | But didnt do anything | |
| 02:27 | but Ok I changed it one line again | |
| 02:27 | eythian | keep in mind it runs once every 5 minutes, so you'd have to wait a little bit for it |
| 02:27 | Zeki | yes |
| 02:28 | eythian | you'll also need to check the permissions on your zebra indexes. If root has been doing things with it, they're probably wrong. |
| 02:29 | Zeki | when I use koha user, i can run the manual script without error |
| 02:29 | eythian | OK, that's a good sign then |
| 02:34 | Zeki | I am trying it now, adding a new book into catalog |
| 02:35 | wizzyrea | do remember that it takes a few minutes |
| 02:36 | Zeki | yes I will wait |
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| 02:44 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 7 10:42:01 src-library cro" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/348 |
| 02:44 | Zeki | now giving different error |
| 02:45 | so I am not sure what is going on with this crontab | |
| 02:46 | eythian | that is not ideal |
| 02:46 | wizzyrea | looks like your zebra is dying. |
| 02:47 | Zeki | what? |
| 02:47 | It is a new installation | |
| 02:47 | eythian | what does "apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0-utils" say? |
| 02:48 | yeah, it's still pretty clearly your zebra indexer dying | |
| 02:48 | wizzyrea | i would guess permissions |
| 02:49 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tuyansrc-library:~$ apt-cache" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/349 |
| 02:49 | Zeki | it says this |
| 02:49 | eythian | hmm, that looks normal enough. |
| 02:50 | Zeki | so, what do i need to look/check? |
| 02:51 | wizzyrea | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]April/023613.html |
| 02:51 | you have enough space on the drive, you have enough memory in the machine | |
| 02:52 | Zeki | yes |
| 02:52 | 2 GB memory and 500GB HDD | |
| 02:53 | eythian | how many records in your catalogue? |
| 02:53 | although, it's a bit odd that it works when you do it by hand | |
| 02:53 | Zeki | less than 10 |
| 02:53 | eythian | heh that should be OK then |
| 02:53 | wizzyrea | hehe yea |
| 02:55 | Zeki | just now I mentioned my koha 3.10.01 |
| 02:56 | maybe it is some different than earlier version? | |
| 02:56 | eythian | When you run it by hand, what's the whole output, including the commands you enter? |
| 02:56 | no, zebra and koha are different programs | |
| 02:56 | koha just uses zebra | |
| 02:57 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "kohasrc-library:/home/tuyan$" (28 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/350 |
| 02:58 | Zeki | this is manual entry and result |
| 02:59 | eythian | that looks more or less normal. |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | you are running that as user tuyan? |
| 02:59 | eythian | oh wait |
| 02:59 | yeah | |
| 02:59 | that's not right | |
| 02:59 | wizzyrea | you told cron to run the commands as user koha |
| 02:59 | do you have a system user koha? | |
| 02:59 | at least you told it to run it as koha if you followed the directions | |
| 03:00 | whoami will tell you who you are currently logged in as | |
| 03:01 | oh no, eythian it says "kohasrc-library |
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| 03:01 | eythian | oh right |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | so yea, he's logged in as koha |
| 03:01 | eythian | so, that does look normal then |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 03:01 | eythian | Might be worth adding a -r in there too |
| 03:01 | Zeki | where ? |
| 03:01 | wizzyrea | at the end |
| 03:01 | Zeki | ok |
| 03:02 | eythian | it forces it to rebuild everything |
| 03:02 | wizzyrea | (with the proper users and everything, if they're wrong, right?) |
| 03:03 | eythian | no, if the users are wrong, I'd expect it to die, but it should die with a useful error message. |
| 03:03 | mind you, it might be worth checking | |
| 03:03 | wizzyrea | i mean, if the current index files are say, owned by the wrong user) |
| 03:04 | a -r would create new ones with the current user | |
| 03:04 | or is that wrong. | |
| 03:04 | eythian | zebra is usually good about printing an obscure message if things go wrong like that |
| 03:04 | wizzyrea | lol :) |
| 03:04 | eythian | no, it wouldn't be able to overwrite them most likely |
| 03:05 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 7 11:03:01 src-library cro" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/351 |
| 03:05 | Zeki | looks same kind of error |
| 03:06 | eythian | yeah |
| 03:06 | Zeki | then now interestingliy I can not see any book from OPAC access |
| 03:06 | eythian | that's not surprising |
| 03:06 | wizzyrea | yea not surprising. |
| 03:06 | Zeki | before I can see the indexed book |
| 03:06 | eythian | oh, I meant to add it to the end of the command line when doing it by hand rather than to the cron job |
| 03:07 | but I'm still perplexed as to why there'd be a difference running it one way vs. the other | |
| 03:07 | unless it's something like a RAM failure | |
| 03:07 | Zeki | yeah |
| 03:07 | wizzyrea | a segfault might actually suggest that |
| 03:07 | other koha users that have had similar things | |
| 03:07 | indicate that increasing RAM fixed it | |
| 03:08 | eythian | yeah, which could well have been done by replacing a RAM chip, fixing the issue |
| 03:08 | wizzyrea | 2GB should be fine |
| 03:08 | i mean, for 10 records you could have 512MB and it'd be fine. | |
| 03:08 | less | |
| 03:11 | Zeki | I was different OS in this server before without any problem |
| 03:11 | I was using different OS in this server before without any problem | |
| 03:12 | I think memory is fine | |
| 03:14 | eythian | http://www.indexdata.com/torus/install.html <-- you might be able to use a newer version of zebra from here |
| 03:15 | Zeki | yeah. I will check it |
| 03:15 | I saw in this forum http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]TS-td5721448.html | |
| 03:16 | looks he has similar forum | |
| 03:16 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "The reason I'me in some doubt" (45 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/352 |
| 03:17 | Zeki | he suggested that this |
| 03:18 | so I am not sure "/etc/cron.d/koha" is working or not | |
| 03:18 | eythian | I would recommend following his instructions |
| 03:18 | they are not right | |
| 03:18 | jcamins_away | Would *not* recommend following. |
| 03:18 | eythian | sorry yes |
| 03:19 | jcamins_away | I'm just wandering by and leaving again momentarily, but if you have two conflicting cron jobs, no amount of fiddling is going to make them work. You need to only have one set of cron jobs. |
| 03:19 | eythian | I think he's fixed the multiple cronjobs issue now. |
| 03:19 | (right, Zeki?) | |
| 03:19 | Zeki | yes |
| 03:19 | and he disable /etc/cron.d/koha | |
| 03:20 | jcamins_away | Oh, the message in that paste was from someone who ignored our instructions and set up cron jobs in two different ways. |
| 03:20 | Never mind then. | |
| 03:20 | * jcamins_away | leaves again. |
| 03:21 | Zeki | sorry what do i need to do? |
| 03:22 | eythian | I would recommend trying a different version of zebra |
| 03:23 | My only thought is there's an issue in the 32-bit version in Ubuntu (typically people run Debian and 64-bit) | |
| 03:27 | Zeki | yeah |
| 03:28 | I am going to reboot my system | |
| 03:28 | I am going to reboot my server | |
| 03:42 | hi | |
| 03:43 | I restarted ny server | |
| 03:43 | still I have same problem | |
| 03:44 | and a new problem I am not able see books name from OPAC interface | |
| 03:44 | what do I have to do ? | |
| 03:44 | eythian | 1) check the permissions on the zebra indexes to make sure they are koha:koha, 2) try a different version of zebra, 3) run diagnostics on the server to see if there's a hardware fault. |
| 03:44 | 0) manually reindexing zebra will get your searches back | |
| 03:45 | Zeki | I tried manually zebra indexing |
| 03:45 | I cannot see any book from OPAC interface | |
| 03:46 | eythian | is your zebra server process running? |
| 03:47 | Zeki | I am running one time manual script |
| 04:05 | after running the manually scripy I am able to see books from OPAC interface | |
| 04:08 | still first problem continue, when add a new book into catalog, zebra indexing not update by crontab | |
| 04:09 | anyone arround? | |
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| 04:09 | Zeki | anyone arround? |
| 04:11 | eythian | have you checked the permissions onthe zebra indexes? |
| 04:12 | Zeki | in this folder"/etc/koha/zebradb" |
| 04:12 | eythian | I don't know where the indexes live in a tarball installation, but I doubt that it's there. |
| 04:13 | I could be wrong though | |
| 04:13 | Zeki | this folder "/etc/koha/zebradb" ovener and group is koha |
| 04:13 | eythian | that is not the correct place |
| 04:14 | /var/lib/koha is more likely | |
| 04:14 | Zeki | which folder? |
| 04:14 | eythian | /var/lib/koha |
| 04:14 | wahanui | /var/lib/koha is more likely |
| 04:14 | eythian | wahanui: botsnack |
| 04:14 | wahanui | :) |
| 04:15 | Zeki | this folder "/var/lib/koha/zebradb" owner and group is koha |
| 04:15 | eythian | and what about all the files inside it |
| 04:15 | ? | |
| 04:16 | Zeki | there are 2 main folder under "/var/lib/koha/zebradb |
| 04:16 | eythian | look at all the files. |
| 04:17 | Zeki | "/var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios |
| 04:17 | "/var/lib/koha/zebradb/authorities | |
| 04:17 | under authorities all files koha | |
| 04:18 | under "/var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register" some file belong to root | |
| 04:18 | eythian | yeah, that's bad. |
| 04:18 | Zeki | so do you want me to change all of them koha? |
| 04:19 | eythian | Yes. |
| 04:19 | Zeki | ok |
| 04:24 | all changed | |
| 04:24 | syslog ishttp://mibpaste.com/tFlyoV | |
| 04:24 | eythian | now see if that helps. |
| 04:24 | it might, it might not. | |
| 04:24 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 7 12:23:01 src-library CRO" (2 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/353 |
| 04:25 | eythian | I guess it won't help then. |
| 04:25 | Zeki | looks didnt help |
| 04:27 | so any other place i check? | |
| 04:27 | eythian | continue trying the steps I mentioned about 45 minutes ago. |
| 04:28 | Zeki | I checked this http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_ubuntu_-_tarball |
| 04:28 | many times | |
| 04:28 | eythian | <eythian> 1) check the permissions on the zebra indexes to make sure they are koha:koha, 2) try a different version of zebra, 3) run diagnostics on the server to see if there's a hardware fault. |
| 04:29 | Zeki | only I can see this instruction for koha 3.8 |
| 04:30 | yeah | |
| 04:30 | different version of zebra ? | |
| 04:31 | is there any easy setup? | |
| 04:31 | because I am very new on ubuntu | |
| 04:32 | eythian | I sent you the documentation about it an hour or two ago |
| 04:32 | you'll have to have a look back through the history because I have to go now. | |
| 04:32 | Zeki | yeah |
| 04:32 | ok thanks eythian | |
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| 05:18 | Zeki | hi |
| 05:18 | wahanui | hello, Zeki |
| 05:18 | Zeki | hi wahanui |
| 05:18 | wahanui | salut, Zeki |
| 05:18 | Zeki | do you about crontab? |
| 05:18 | do you know about crontab? | |
| 05:18 | I have problem with crontab setting | |
| 05:21 | do you know it? | |
| 05:21 | wahanui | i think it is misc/bin/updatedb.pl |
| 05:22 | pastebot | "Zeki" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Jan 7 13:20:01 src-library CRO" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/354 |
| 05:22 | Zeki | I have this problem |
| 05:23 | when I use "($KOHA_PATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -v -b -a >/dev/null 2>&1) | |
| 05:23 | this script give tis error | |
| 05:24 | if I use ($KOHA_PATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -z -b -a >/dev/null 2>&1) | |
| 05:24 | do nothing | |
| 05:24 | no error | |
| 05:25 | if I use "-v " with error | |
| 05:25 | "-z " no error | |
| 05:26 | both them not doing the auto indexing | |
| 05:26 | so do you have any idea? | |
| 05:26 | wahanui | so is a long road. |
| 05:27 | Zeki | Ok. I can explain my system. |
| 05:27 | I am using Ubutu server 12.04 with koha 3.10.01 | |
| 05:27 | followed this installation | |
| 05:27 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_ubuntu_-_tarball | |
| 05:29 | when I add a book into catalog, crontab zebraindexing not showing it. (not adding automaticly into zebra index) | |
| 05:29 | but when I use manual zebra indexing script "/usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl –v –b –a" it adds into zebra index | |
| 05:30 | so this is my problem? | |
| 05:32 | any idea? | |
| 05:37 | anyone arround ? | |
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| 07:22 | Zeki | anyone arround ? |
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| 07:33 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:35 | Zeki | hi |
| 07:35 | Hi alex , | |
| 07:36 | do you know about crontab setting? | |
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| 07:41 | Zeki | :) |
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| 08:03 | gaetan_B | hello #koha and happy new year ! |
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| 08:11 | francharb | good morning #koha |
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| 09:22 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 09:43 | kf | good morning #koha! |
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| 09:50 | H | My publication date search does not seam to function ... do i have to activate it somehow ? |
| 09:51 | kf | H: the date range search builds on the publication year in the control fields |
| 09:51 | not on 260$c | |
| 09:51 | so when you don't have the data catalogued with that information, it won't work | |
| 09:51 | H | ah |
| 09:51 | kf | 007? 008? I always confuse |
| 09:51 | H | and the control field is number ? |
| 09:52 | kf | let me look it up |
| 09:53 | I think it's 008 7-10 | |
| 09:55 | H | oeps |
| 09:58 | so every time i fill in new title i have to edit 008 also ? | |
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| 09:59 | kf | H: yes |
| 09:59 | it's a normalized form of the publication year, while 260$c is not | |
| 09:59 | H | hmz more work |
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| 10:00 | kf | better search :) |
| 10:01 | vfernandes | hello :) |
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| 10:24 | magnuse | #marcmustdie |
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| 10:26 | gerundio | good morning |
| 10:26 | kf | morning all |
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| 13:08 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 13:47 | magnuse | hiya oleonard |
| 13:48 | * oleonard | startles awake |
| 13:48 | magnuse | boo! |
| 13:48 | wunder boo | |
| 13:48 | @wunder boo | |
| 13:48 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (2:20 PM CET on January 07, 2013). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:48 | magnuse | w00t! |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Hooray for 4.0°C? |
| 13:49 | @wunder 45701 | |
| 13:49 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in OHDOT 31-Athens County Garage, Athens, Ohio is -0.6°C (8:21 AM EST on January 07, 2013). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 13:49 | oleonard | Huh, doesn't feel that cold. |
| 13:49 | magnuse | yup, we have not seen plus degrees for a couple months... |
| 13:51 | * oleonard | offers magnuse the sunscreen |
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| 13:52 | * magnuse | declines gracefully |
| 13:52 | magnuse | no sun where i live for another month |
| 13:52 | although it should be possible to see the sun in central bodø right about now :-) | |
| 13:59 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:59 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 4.9°C (2:55 PM CET on January 07, 2013). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:59 | * kf | hasn't seen the sun in a while too.... |
| 13:59 | kf | but it's probably above all the fog/clouds somewhere |
| 14:00 | magnuse | let's hope it is :-) |
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| 14:18 | jcamins_away | Yay! My Raspberry Pi order has been confirmed! |
| 14:19 | kf | woohoo :) |
| 14:19 | grats :) | |
| 14:21 | oleonard | What's your plan for it jcamins_away? |
| 14:21 | jcamins_away | oleonard: Koha, of course. |
| 14:21 | kf | :) |
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| 14:23 | vfernandes | hello |
| 14:24 | how to change from grs1 to dom indexing? | |
| 14:24 | it's possible? | |
| 14:25 | because in 3.2 dom indexing for authorities wasn't working but in 3.8 I think there is full support | |
| 14:25 | jcamins_away | vfernandes: it is, but I am actually just on my way out to head into the city so I can't walk you through it at the moment. If no one else does, I'll be back in about an hour. |
| 14:26 | vfernandes | ok thanks jcamins... |
| 14:29 | kf | vfernandes: not sure I knwo how to do it - so you probably better wait for jcamins_away |
| 14:31 | vfernandes | ok :) |
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| 14:32 | vfernandes | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_to_dom_indexing |
| 14:46 | when rebuild zebra indexes with dom: [warn] Unknown register type | |
| 14:46 | is this normal? | |
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| 15:01 | kf | it happens for me too |
| 15:01 | it seems still to work, but it would be nice if someone found out why that happens :( | |
| 15:04 | vfernandes | yes it works... but i was a afraid that was something wrong |
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| 15:42 | gerundio | we had to reboot our koha server and now I'm getting [Permission denied] errors from zebra |
| 15:43 | kf | ah |
| 15:43 | missing directories? | |
| 15:43 | what's the exact error? | |
| 15:43 | or did you run the rebuild script as sudo maybe after restarting | |
| 15:43 | ? | |
| 15:44 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Zebra write errors" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/355 |
| 15:44 | gerundio | didn't do anything after the reboot |
| 15:44 | the file mentioned there exists but it's owned by root with 644 permissions | |
| 15:45 | so that explains the write permission error for the koha user | |
| 15:45 | but I still don't understand the origin of it | |
| 15:47 | kf | hm I am not sure either |
| 15:48 | but I think easy to fix at least | |
| 15:48 | normally file permissions only go wrong for me, when I accidentally run the rebuild script as root user | |
| 15:53 | jcamins_away | gerundio: are you using a disk-backed ramdisk for /var? |
| 15:54 | gerundio | not that I know of |
| 15:54 | mount doesn't show anything for /var | |
| 15:55 | jcamins | In that case, I have no idea how it could have happened. |
| 15:56 | gerundio | any idea how to fix it? |
| 15:56 | is it harmless to change the ownership of the file mentioned in there? | |
| 15:57 | kf | gerundio: you should change the ownership |
| 15:57 | to your koah user | |
| 15:57 | gerundio | of the whole /var/lib/koha/zebradb/biblios/register/ dir? |
| 15:57 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 15:57 | chown -R koha:koha /var/lib/koha/zebradb | |
| 15:58 | gerundio | done |
| 15:58 | all other dirs in the same tree level have koha as owner | |
| 15:59 | lets see if the cron runs without any fuss now :) | |
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| 16:03 | gerundio | just got the mail, the permission issue went away :D |
| 16:03 | jcamins++ | |
| 16:03 | kf++ | |
| 16:03 | thanks | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 16:03 | gerundio | the "Missing attribute 'type' in attribute info" is a regular though |
| 16:03 | and so is "Unknown register type" | |
| 16:04 | jcamins | The unknown register type I've seen. |
| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:27 | jcamins | germany? |
| 16:27 | wahanui | i think germany is very cool |
| 16:27 | jcamins | german? |
| 16:27 | wahanui | hmmm... german is at 100% - but the strings are missing from the files |
| 16:27 | jcamins | germs? |
| 16:27 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 16:27 | jcamins | That is wahanui's comment on the comprehensibility of German dissertation notes. :) |
| 16:35 | kf | forget german |
| 16:35 | wahanui | kf: I forgot german |
| 16:35 | kf | jcamins: they are totally comprehensible if you are german ;) |
| 16:36 | jcamins | kf: so you say. |
| 16:36 | * jcamins | is suspicious. |
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| 17:17 | jcamins | Okay, I now understand why people would use check-in notifications. |
| 17:17 | Our building just started using an online system that e-mails you when you have a package waiting. | |
| 17:18 | I'd kind of like to get an e-mail telling me it's been picked up when it's been picked up. | |
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| 17:37 | gerundio | to perform a full zebra reindex I just have to run the script "rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -z >/dev/null" without the -z option, right? |
| 17:37 | jcamins | No. |
| 17:38 | You need to replace -z with -r | |
| 17:38 | Without the -r, it will do a full index, but not a reindex, which means that you can end up with stale data if your indexes are at all out of sync. | |
| 17:39 | gerundio | hmmm, not sure I understood what you meant :| |
| 17:40 | what's the difference between reindex and full index? | |
| 17:41 | last week, after out talk, we reached a conclusion that I might have broken indexes | |
| 17:41 | so the way to go would be to perform a reindex | |
| 17:41 | right? | |
| 17:42 | ok, but I see your point | |
| 17:42 | the -r option clears the Zebra index, which is what I want | |
| 17:42 | thanks | |
| 17:42 | jcamins++ | |
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| 17:47 | vfernandes | people it's possible to have in OPAC main block syspref controll? |
| 17:48 | jcamins | vfernandes: you can edit it with OpacUserMain. |
| 17:48 | Is that what you mean? | |
| 17:48 | oleonard | OpacMainUserBlock |
| 17:49 | jcamins | ^^ what oleonard said |
| 17:50 | vfernandes | yes but it's possible to do template controll [% IF ( .... ) %]? |
| 17:50 | oleonard | I don't think so. Easy to test though. |
| 17:51 | vfernandes | i tested bu it didn't work... i tought that could be a workaroud |
| 17:52 | cait | vfernandes: what are you trying to do? |
| 17:53 | vfernandes | [% IF ( OpacTopissue ) %]<span class="pipe"> | </span><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-topissues.pl">Most popular</a>[% END %] |
| 17:53 | i want something like this in the OpacMainUserBlock | |
| 17:53 | cait | what exactly do you want to do? :) |
| 17:53 | maybe you can do it with css/js | |
| 17:54 | vfernandes | I want to put a link for the suggestions but only appears if active |
| 17:54 | cait | ah |
| 17:55 | you could check that the the login thing is not there with jquery and hide/display the link accordingly I think | |
| 17:55 | vfernandes | [% IF ( AnonSuggestions ) %] <a href="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-suggestions.pl">Purchase suggestions</a> [% END %] |
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| 17:55 | cait | I don#t think TT works there |
| 17:55 | vfernandes | JS seems to be the solution |
| 17:55 | * cait | goes to make dinner |
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| 18:46 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Does that e-mail make more sense than it thinks it does? |
| 19:15 | cait | the paid support vendor one? |
| 19:21 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 19:23 | oleonard | "We want to be a paid support vendor, is it possible to be paid to support Koha?" |
| 19:24 | jcamins | My experience says "yes, but not if you have to ask that question." |
| 19:25 | bag | ikr |
| 19:27 | oleonard | How about this job opening on the Ohio libraries mailing list. Requirements: "Windows XP/OS7; Server 2003/2008; Active Directory; Group Policy; MSOffice; software loads; hardware builds/chipsets; internet protocols and security; networks; Html; Analytics; Adobe CS3 or CS5; tablets, eReaders and Apple products; Digital Imaging; knowledge of databases." |
| 19:27 | $11/hr. | |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Wait, really? Chipsets? |
| 19:28 | Shouldn't they just buy pre-built systems? | |
| 19:32 | oleonard | They need to hire a tech guy to be able to tell them that |
| 19:32 | Unfortunately, for $11/hr... | |
| 19:34 | jcamins | oleonard: you're not rushing out to apply for that job? I was thinking it must be in an area which hasn't seen any inflation since... a very long time ago. |
| 19:37 | oleonard | It's at a historical society, so the compensation is probably based on historical rates. |
| 19:37 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:37 | Ah, that explains it. | |
| 19:38 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | mornin peeps |
| 19:39 | jcamins | oleonard: were they founded in the 1970s? |
| 19:39 | wizzyrea | ooh, OS7! |
| 19:39 | people still run that? | |
| 19:39 | or do they mean windows 7 | |
| 19:40 | and not macos 7 | |
| 19:40 | sounds like they had a geek of last resort and they are trying to replace him/her | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | Probably Windows 7, I think. |
| 19:51 | bag | greg you around? |
| 19:51 | rambutan | here |
| 19:51 | bag | hey |
| 19:56 | * wizzyrea | was hoping cait would be around |
| 19:58 | jcamins | She's off reading. |
| 19:59 | Or she should be. | |
| 20:06 | * cait_away | waves to wizzyrea |
| 20:06 | cait_away | here now |
| 20:06 | well sort of | |
| 20:09 | don't say I missed wizzyrea now... | |
| 20:09 | * cait_away | has a sad |
| 20:09 | * jcamins | gives cait_away a disapproving glance. |
| 20:09 | jcamins | Shouldn't you be reading? |
| 20:09 | cait_away | I am |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | no no |
| 20:09 | cait_away | totally reading |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | I'm here |
| 20:10 | but if you are reading then my question can wait :) | |
| 20:10 | oleonard | Poor cait_away, always being bossed around by people here! |
| 20:10 | * cait_away | is not really better... so I better not complain |
| 20:10 | cait_away | and jcamins knows I have a deadline :( |
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| 20:11 | cait_away | wizzyrea: now I can't concentrate on reading until you ask :) |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | lol dammit. ok |
| 20:11 | serials >.> do you use routing lists much? | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | I think I would like to learn Latvian. |
| 20:13 | cait_away | wizzyrea: not at all, but I did show people how they work.. if that helps |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Wait... it's tonal. That might make it difficult. |
| 20:14 | cait_away | why woudl you want to learn latvian? |
| 20:14 | wizzyrea: will you know finally tell me your question? :P | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | well I was wondering if the routing messages worked |
| 20:15 | and when they got sent | |
| 20:16 | routing messages, not routing holds. | |
| 20:17 | cait_away | ah |
| 20:17 | yes | |
| 20:18 | hm | |
| 20:18 | there are no routing messages | |
| 20:18 | well, the messages are not related to the routing lists is a better description | |
| 20:18 | there is a way that opac users can subscribe to messages | |
| 20:18 | wizzyrea | ah, and none of this is in the manual :/ |
| 20:18 | oh! | |
| 20:18 | hmm. | |
| 20:18 | cait_away | so they get an email every time a new issue is received |
| 20:18 | which is nice | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | can librarians create a list, and put patrons on it |
| 20:19 | cait_away | in order for that to happen |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | from the back in |
| 20:19 | end? | |
| 20:19 | wahanui | i guess end is like "lily?" or no? |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | forget end |
| 20:19 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot end |
| 20:19 | cait_away | you have to set a notice template in the subscription |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | right - have that |
| 20:19 | cait_away | it can have any name, but the sample is unfortunately named routinglist |
| 20:19 | so you can have different templates even for different serials | |
| 20:19 | or libraries or whatever | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | right ok |
| 20:20 | cait_away | the link to subscribe is a bit hidden |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | but it doesn't have anything to do with the serials routing lists |
| 20:20 | cait_away | it's in one of the views in opac, but not in normal, in the second I tihnk |
| 20:20 | and no, there is currently no way to add people from the backend I think | |
| 20:20 | but I created a link at the subscription that makes you see who has subscribed to alerts | |
| 20:20 | so maybe it could be added to that page | |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | well that completely explains why no one was getting messages :P |
| 20:21 | * wizzyrea | looks |
| 20:21 | cait_away | well, I did create the link - the feature was already there, it got lost and I found it by coincidence |
| 20:21 | there is a lot of that in serials | |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | cait++ |
| 20:21 | cait_away | and routing lists used to work differently, you should ask rangi, but it might make him grumpy |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | well yes. |
| 20:21 | cait_away | I tihnk a lot of functionality there got partially broken at some point |
| 20:22 | like automatic holds with routing lists | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | *cough*MARC SUPPORT*cough* |
| 20:22 | cait_away | totally broken. |
| 20:22 | not sure | |
| 20:22 | I have filed bug reports | |
| 20:22 | for holds and routing lists | |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | ok you said there was a link? do you have to turn it on? |
| 20:22 | cait_away | it will show up when the first patron subscribes I think |
| 20:23 | create a serial, make sure the template for routing is filled (we should really change the description there), subscribe from the opac, go back to the subscription detail page | |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | OH. ok.... sec |
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| 20:27 | cait_away | hm reading back... hope that all made sense |
| 20:29 | wizzyrea | hm I don't see the place to subscribe to the serial |
| 20:29 | in the OPAC | |
| 20:30 | cait_away | hm |
| 20:30 | wait a min | |
| 20:31 | more details | |
| 20:31 | subscription tab > more details link | |
| 20:31 | jcamins | Have I commented before that it's impossible to find that? |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | i don't see it - yet. but... |
| 20:32 | cait_away | jcamins: yeah, the placing is a bit bad |
| 20:32 | i think it would work better if you use the brief history as your normal view maybe | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea: still nothing? | |
| 20:33 | wahanui | nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 20:33 | cait_away | i think it should appear here: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]biblionumber=5970 |
| 20:33 | but I think this library isn't using them | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | do you have to enable it somehow? |
| 20:33 | in the serial? | |
| 20:33 | cait_away | hm |
| 20:33 | putting in a template should be enough | |
| 20:34 | in the subscription | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | un mo |
| 20:34 | cait_away | oh wait a sec |
| 20:34 | hm, ah no. we don't have that in the wiki yet | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | well I didn't have notification on.. one sec |
| 20:34 | yep there it is | |
| 20:34 | sorry, dense | |
| 20:35 | cait_away | no problem :) |
| 20:35 | it's easy to miss | |
| 20:35 | took me a while... | |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | yes, that is awful placement. |
| 20:35 | and that does not work AT ALL how you would expect it to. | |
| 20:35 | and it's not tied to the native serial lists | |
| 20:36 | cait_away | nope |
| 20:36 | btw | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | which as I have now learned is the source of all issues related to the problem I'm chasing down |
| 20:36 | cait_away | if you ever wandered what the table alerts in the database is for.. here you go :) |
| 20:36 | wondered | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | tsk tsk. |
| 20:36 | cait_away | maybe it was once designed to work differently |
| 20:36 | I think if holds worked | |
| 20:36 | routing list holds | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | that's madness. |
| 20:36 | cait_away | people would get hold notices to pick up the issue |
| 20:37 | but as they are not working... | |
| 20:37 | * wizzyrea | grumbles. |
| 20:37 | cait_away | http://thechive.files.wordpres[…]d-art-play-12.jpg ? :) |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | that's a lot to document, and is rather dumb that there is no backend function to add users to those subs |
| 20:37 | cait, you are a champion, thank you for the help | |
| 20:38 | cait++ | |
| 20:38 | cait_away | wizzyrea: maybe there is/was a way and we only have not figured it out yet |
| 20:38 | that's as far as I got | |
| 20:38 | :) | |
| 20:38 | I have doucmentation in german... | |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | is it online? I will translate it with the help of google |
| 20:39 | :P | |
| 20:39 | cait_away | not yet, but I could send it to you tomorrow |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | rather, translate it to googlenglish then into proper english |
| 20:39 | cait_away | it has screenshots |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | that's ok I can get context from screenshots |
| 20:40 | I have a library who wants to use this, but they were adding patrons to routing lists. | |
| 20:40 | thinking it would work | |
| 20:40 | and it doesn't | |
| 20:44 | cait_away | wizzyrea: do you see the link in intranet now too? after subscribing? |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea: the help text on the notification page is totally wrong | |
| 20:45 | hm notification field - in the subscription | |
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| 21:03 | * cait_away | waves at trea |
| 21:04 | * trea | waves at cait_away |
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| 21:21 | wizzyrea | I do see the text |
| 21:23 | thanks cait, I think I get how it works now. | |
| 21:23 | (and it is not at all the way you think it should. | |
| 21:23 | ) | |
| 21:23 | cait_away | hm not sure |
| 21:24 | I think it's a nice feature | |
| 21:24 | only labelled wrong | |
| 21:24 | libraries seem to like it | |
| 21:24 | and needs a way to add people to alert lists from the intranet | |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | oh it is a nice feature |
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| 22:45 | cait_away | night all :) |
| 22:45 | wizzyrea | gnite cait, thanks again |
| 22:45 | eythian | bye cait_away |
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| 22:55 | bag | @seen rangi |
| 22:55 | huginn | bag: rangi was last seen in #koha 3 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <rangi> rambutan: vik who started the reprap project used to work with me, we had a reprap in the office for a while |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | he's on holiday. |
| 22:56 | bag | bummer |
| 22:56 | nothing important I just wanted his mailing address | |
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