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| 07:38 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:41 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 07:42 | reiveune | bonjour cait, magnuse, everybody :) |
| 07:43 | magnuse | hiya julian_m reiveune laurence cait |
| 07:43 | cait | hi magnuse |
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| 07:45 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 07:45 | laurence | hi magnuse |
| 07:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #241: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/241/ |
| 07:51 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page | |
| 07:51 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless | |
| 07:51 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work | |
| 07:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page |
| 07:51 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on | |
| 07:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work | |
| 07:53 | magnuse | success! \o/ |
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| 07:57 | marcelr | hi #koha |
| 07:58 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 08:10 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:10 | wahanui | what's up, gaetan_B |
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| 08:24 | magnuse | hiya marcelr Manderso1 gaetan_B sophie_m and kf |
| 08:24 | kf | hi all :) |
| 08:24 | sophie_m | hi magnuse |
| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:24 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 5.0°C (9:00 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:25 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:25 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -8.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:25 | magnuse | sort of cold in marseille? |
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| 08:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #27: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/27/ |
| 08:40 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary | |
| 08:40 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary (followup) | |
| 08:40 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page | |
| 08:40 | * oleonard: Bug 8117 [Follow-up] Divide budget periods into two tabs | |
| 08:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9168 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error when filtering in receipt summary |
| 08:40 | jenkins_koha | * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless |
| 08:40 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work | |
| 08:40 | * oleonard: Bug 8641 [Follow-up] Add warning about log-in as root user to About page | |
| 08:40 | * melia: Bug 8641 [Follow up]-Reword warning about log-in as root user to About-System information | |
| 08:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page |
| 08:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Divide budget periods into two tabs | |
| 08:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8781 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on | |
| 08:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work | |
| 08:40 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information | |
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| 09:00 | magnuse | success! \o/ |
| 09:00 | hiya paul_p | |
| 09:03 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 09:03 | paul_p | hello magnuse & kf |
| 09:55 | magnuse | @wunder geilo, norway |
| 09:55 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Aal Skisenter bunnstasjon, Aal, Norway is -17.5°C (10:55 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: -23.0°C. Windchill: -18.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady). |
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| 10:12 | kf | magnuse: skisenter? |
| 10:14 | * drojf | giggles at 'geilo' |
| 10:14 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 10:14 | magnuse | hi drojf |
| 10:14 | kf: a place where you go if you want to go skiiing | |
| 10:14 | they had -30 this night... | |
| 10:14 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 10:14 | wow that's cold | |
| 10:16 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:16 | kf | yup: I'd rather stay in the warmth |
| 10:18 | magnuse | good plan :-) |
| 10:24 | paul_p | @wunder Athens, greece |
| 10:24 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Argyroupoli, Greece is 19.9°C (11:35 AM EET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Falling). |
| 10:24 | * paul_p | head to Athens at the end of the week ;-) (for business, but also a week-end for pleasure) |
| 10:33 | drojf | hey paul_p got a minute? |
| 10:34 | magnuse | paul_p: that sounds like a good idea :-) |
| 10:34 | paul_p | drojf = nope, at a meeting (all the day) |
| 10:34 | drojf | paul_p: ok |
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| 10:38 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 10:38 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 0.8°C (11:13 AM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:25 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 11:29 | drojf | good morning jcamins |
| 11:29 | kf | hi jcamins |
| 11:30 | * kf | hands jcamins cookies and tea |
| 11:31 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:31 | kf | breakfast for RMs |
| 11:32 | jcamins | Why do we have ExtendedPatronAttributes disabled by default? |
| 11:33 | kf | because it has always been I think |
| 11:34 | jcamins | I am a strong believer in changing behavior out from under people, but it doesn't do anything unless you add some attributes, does it? |
| 11:34 | *not changing | |
| 11:34 | kf | enhancedmessaging should be default on too I think |
| 11:35 | if we are having this discussion now :) | |
| 11:37 | drojf | and socialsomething facebooktwitterwhatever should be off :( |
| 11:37 | magnuse | i think it started out as "don't change things for people unless they want it". we might have come to a point where lots of people want it, so we might want to consider making it the default... |
| 11:38 | maybe ad it to the agenda for the next meeting? | |
| 11:40 | jcamins | magnuse: the rule is "don't change behavior out from under people," but when a feature has no practical implications without further configuration, that's not really an issue. |
| 11:40 | Good idea. | |
| 11:41 | magnuse | one norwegian ils uses marc field 792 to keep track of roles in a play e.g. $k2$m3 = 2 female roles and 3 male roles. is there anything similar in marc21? |
| 11:42 | jcamins | Yes, but not in 7xx. |
| 11:42 | Lemme find it. | |
| 11:43 | Oh, no, it's for music. | |
| 11:45 | magnuse | ah, thanks for trying |
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| 11:46 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 11:47 | when upgrading to koha 3.2 to koha 3.8 we should run which script to pass MARCXML to items? | |
| 11:47 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 11:47 | Oh, which. | |
| 11:47 | Sorry. | |
| 11:47 | vfernandes | I forgot the name of the script :P |
| 11:47 | jcamins | remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl |
| 11:48 | vfernandes | that's it |
| 11:48 | we have to do something more? | |
| 11:49 | my memory today is not good... | |
| 11:49 | kf | jcamins: weird, i had tested with yes/no 0/1 |
| 11:49 | or at least I thought I did | |
| 11:49 | jcamins | vfernandes: reindex. |
| 11:50 | That's about it, though. | |
| 11:50 | vfernandes | thank jcamins :) |
| 11:50 | jcamins | kf: it probably depends how yes/no is stored. |
| 11:51 | kf | hm using the authorized value it's always 0/1 |
| 11:51 | it comes with the default sample configuration | |
| 11:51 | I must have missed it | |
| 11:51 | how annoying | |
| 11:52 | jcamins | That's what I'm here for. |
| 11:52 | That and grouching at people. | |
| 11:52 | kf | heh :) |
| 11:52 | jcamins | Deduplicating 53k fields is slow. |
| 11:53 | (53k -> ~300) | |
| 12:04 | vfernandes | this script is slow :P |
| 12:05 | jcamins | vfernandes: it does a similar thing. |
| 12:05 | I need a record to import using bulkmarcimport.pl. | |
| 12:06 | * jcamins | tries to come up with a good record. |
| 12:06 | vfernandes | I can go for a walk because remove_items_from_biblioitems.pl only processed 6000 items of 78000 :P |
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| 12:07 | jcamins | vfernandes: you can go for a walk, having a coffee, have lunch, take a nap, have tea, go for a run, have dinner, dawdle over dessert, clean up, and watch a film! |
| 12:07 | kf | lol |
| 12:08 | but it will speed up things once it's done... | |
| 12:13 | vfernandes | :) |
| 12:22 | I found the root of holds problems in my installation | |
| 12:22 | item-level_itypes was empty | |
| 12:22 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 12:22 | Ooooh. | |
| 12:22 | That shouldn't be possible, but that would definitely break all kinds of things. | |
| 12:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7ef2975f7b0222478> / Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5052667b3e1f1d768> / Bug 8893 - show more information on printout <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha.git;a=commitdi |
| 12:22 | vfernandes | sorry as set as "Biblio record" |
| 12:23 | as should be as "specific item" | |
| 12:23 | jcamins | That also wouldn't do what you want, but at least it's not an invalid configuration. |
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| 12:24 | vfernandes | yes, I changed the pref and now I can reserve :) this pref was added in which version? |
| 12:24 | jcamins | 3.2? |
| 12:24 | wahanui | 3.2 is a stable version and is not supposed to have entering a lot of new syspref |
| 12:25 | jcamins | wahanui: forget 3.2 |
| 12:25 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot 3.2 |
| 12:25 | jcamins | 3.0. |
| 12:26 | vfernandes | the update changed the value of this pref... it's normal? |
| 12:26 | jcamins | No. |
| 12:27 | The stock update definitely does not change the syspref. | |
| 12:28 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #965 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 12:28 | vfernandes | I'm using a test database so maybe the pref was disable |
| 12:29 | now I'll test if I only can reserve with all items checked out | |
| 12:32 | results: If there isn't any checked out items I can't place a hold, which is fine | |
| 12:33 | If all items are checked out I can place a hold, which is fine | |
| 12:34 | If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold, which isn't what I pretend | |
| 12:34 | jcamins this is a bug? | |
| 12:35 | jcamins | It isn't if you have item-level holds enabled. |
| 12:35 | If you have item-level holds disabled, it's a bug. | |
| 12:36 | (OpacItemHolds) | |
| 12:36 | vfernandes | OpacItemHolds = "don't allow" |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Bug. |
| 12:37 | Definitely a bug. | |
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| 12:37 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 12:38 | vfernandes | can I open a Bug with this problem? |
| 12:38 | jcamins | Please do. |
| 12:43 | vfernandes | bug 9190 |
| 12:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9190 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Problem with holds - allow place a hold without all items checked out |
| 12:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #245 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 9 days ago) |
| 12:43 | Starting build #7 for job Koha_Docs_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) | |
| 12:43 | kf | vfernandes: actually it's not a bug I think |
| 12:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_Docs build #245: STILL FAILING in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/245/ |
| 12:43 | nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq | |
| 12:43 | Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #7: SUCCESS in 14 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Docs_3.8.x/7/ | |
| 12:43 | nengard: update biblioaddsauthorities faq | |
| 12:44 | kf | vfernandes: hmm, it may have something to do with allowonshelfholds |
| 12:44 | vfernandes | should I change it to enhacenment |
| 12:44 | ? | |
| 12:44 | jcamins | kf: we already set AllowOnShelfHolds to "Don't allow." |
| 12:44 | kf | hm ok |
| 12:44 | then.... it is an evil bug if we are talking about title level holds | |
| 12:45 | you should only be able to place a hold on the checked out item for item level - I think | |
| 12:45 | jcamins | kf: exactly. |
| 12:45 | vfernandes | :/ |
| 12:46 | kf | vfernandes: hm I think I remember something |
| 12:47 | vfernandes: the problem is, all items at your branch | |
| 12:47 | or on all branches | |
| 12:47 | so it's not as simple as all checked out or not checked out | |
| 12:47 | because you have to think multidimensional... lots of branches being involved | |
| 12:47 | transports and such | |
| 12:48 | jcamins | kf: oooh, good point. |
| 12:48 | vfernandes: are the books that aren't checked out at different branches? | |
| 12:49 | vfernandes | same branch I think but I can do some more tests |
| 12:49 | kf | I suspect it might be koha's stnadard behaviour |
| 12:50 | addings some notes to the bug - wizzyrea might be able to say more about this | |
| 12:51 | jcamins | kf: that's certainly not how I understood the holds system to work. |
| 12:51 | I think it used to work differently. | |
| 12:53 | kf | I am not sure, I mostly deal with single libraries or with libraries to far apart to allow transports |
| 12:53 | jcamins: and I agree with you, I am just not sure if this a changed behaviour or has been like that for a long time | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | I mostly deal with single libraries as well. |
| 12:55 | kf | I think there was a holds rewrite in the works... |
| 12:55 | and there might be reasons for that :) | |
| 12:56 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 12:56 | True. | |
| 12:56 | vfernandes | I've done a new test with a record which all items have the same library and I worked as I said before... If 1 items of X items are checked out I can place a hold |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Bug 9191 |
| 12:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, NEW , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision |
| 12:58 | jcamins | Has anyone noticed that my rate of bug reporting has gone from "high" to "insane"? |
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| 12:59 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 13:00 | jcamins | @later tell rangi Bug 9066 might be a candidate for backporting to 3.8. If not, I'd like to close the bug. |
| 13:00 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:09 | kf | huginn? |
| 13:09 | wahanui | huginn is a bot too veera, not a person |
| 13:09 | huginn | wahanui: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:09 | wahanui | ...but i'll give you the answer just as soon as rda is <reply>... |
| 13:09 | kf | bug 9066 |
| 13:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9066 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , VirtualShelves database access not Plack + MariaDB compatible |
| 13:09 | kf | hm |
| 13:14 | jcamins | Bug 8908 has a nice subject. |
| 13:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra |
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| 13:19 | kf | wb drojf |
| 13:20 | drojf | damn internet connection |
| 13:21 | jcamins: bug 8908 sounds like it would make a great movie | |
| 13:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra |
| 13:22 | jcamins | lol |
| 13:22 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:22 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 1.0°C (2:00 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:22 | kf | drojf: it sounds like the the story is alread given in the title :P |
| 13:23 | overcast just turned in heavy snow | |
| 13:23 | drojf | kf: there might me a twist somewhere :) |
| 13:34 | * jcamins | RESOLVES a bunch of bugs. |
| 13:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #965: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/965/ |
| 13:35 | * jcamins: Bug 9135: updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set | |
| 13:35 | * oleonard: Bug 8893 - show more information on printout | |
| 13:35 | * oleonard: Bug 8893 [Follow-up] show more information on printout | |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9135 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , updatedatabase.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 13:35 | jenkins_koha | * robin: Bug 9012 - --framework option for bulkmarcimport |
| 13:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8893 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , show more information on printout |
| 13:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9012 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Allow bulkmarcimport to specify a framework code when importing MARC | |
| 13:37 | jcamins | That was very cathartic. |
| 13:39 | Only 554 bugs left that are marked Pushed. | |
| 13:40 | kf | how many before you started? |
| 13:40 | jcamins | No idea. |
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| 13:53 | * oleonard | isn't really here |
| 13:54 | * kf | pretends to not notice oleonard |
| 13:57 | * jcamins | wonders if oleonard is in Spain. |
| 14:01 | tcohen | #koha, what do u think of this kind of mocking? |
| 14:01 | druthb | owho? |
| 14:01 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "## Mock Koha::Calendar->_read_" (20 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/292 |
| 14:03 | druthb | wahanui: oleonard? |
| 14:03 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, not really here. He said so. He did |
| 14:03 | * druthb | looks innocent. |
| 14:03 | jcamins | oleonard? |
| 14:03 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 14:03 | tcohen | jcamins, is that ok? |
| 14:03 | jcamins | ^^ ah-ha! |
| 14:03 | tcohen: I'm looking now. | |
| 14:04 | Yes. | |
| 14:04 | tcohen | what bothers me is that i couldn't find a proper way of using dbd::mock so the Calendar.pm code remains untouched |
| 14:11 | jcamins | Why not? |
| 14:16 | tcohen | not enough coffee i guess |
| 14:17 | tried using mock_add_resultset | |
| 14:17 | but couldnt make it work | |
| 14:20 | oleonard | jcamins++ # for marking bugs fixed |
| 14:28 | libsysguy | tcohen what are you trying to make it do? |
| 14:29 | gerundio | hi, what's Koha's take on accessibility? |
| 14:30 | I've gone through http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Accessibility | |
| 14:30 | libsysguy | as far as ADA compliance? |
| 14:30 | gerundio | but there's not much info there |
| 14:30 | I was reading this article http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/[…]nt-sites-by-2015/ | |
| 14:30 | jcamins | gerundio: our feeling is that it is absolutely necessary, and there is an expert at Catalyst working on it. |
| 14:30 | gerundio | where they refer "Public libraries, e.g. catalogues and search tools" as one of the types of government sites |
| 14:31 | this could be a could flagship for Koha on Europe | |
| 14:32 | tcohen | libsysguy, i'm just trying to mock data that otherwise should come from the DB |
| 14:33 | libsysguy | are you using MockModule too?? |
| 14:34 | tcohen | no, that's my second attempt |
| 14:35 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "First attempt" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/293 |
| 14:35 | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "dbh setup" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/294 | |
| 14:36 | libsysguy | take a look at that |
| 14:36 | tcohen | yes, I used that too |
| 14:36 | my $module = new Test::MockModule('C4::Context'); | |
| 14:37 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "actually" (64 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/295 |
| 14:38 | libsysguy | jcamins is the one with the real experience using DBD::Mock, I'm just getting started |
| 14:38 | tcohen | i just couldn't mock the SQL queries/resulsets from Koha::Calendar->_init() |
| 14:39 | jcamins | That's because you have a use_ok at the top, I think. |
| 14:39 | When does _init get called? | |
| 14:40 | tcohen | from the Koha::Calendar->new |
| 14:40 | libsysguy | when the object is initialized |
| 14:41 | jcamins | When is Koha::Calendar->new called? |
| 14:42 | nengard | jcamins how do i alter this : http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ges_are_not_found to show no image at all if no cover is found? |
| 14:42 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 172.16.248.199 pasted "the whole code" (97 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/296 |
| 14:44 | jcamins | nengard: don't use it. |
| 14:44 | nengard | if i don't use it it puts in the 'no image found' thingy from amazon |
| 14:44 | in this case | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Ohh. |
| 14:44 | I see what you mean. | |
| 14:44 | nengard | :) |
| 14:44 | I changed the url bit to 'none' | |
| 14:44 | haven't tested it yet | |
| 14:44 | * jcamins | thought you were asking how to not add an image. |
| 14:45 | nengard | hehe |
| 14:45 | 'none' didn't work | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | I think you just remove the css property. |
| 14:46 | Or, perhaps easier, delete .no-image elements. | |
| 14:47 | nengard | how do I do that? :) |
| 14:47 | jcamins | .remove or .delete or something. |
| 14:47 | nengard | I know copy and paste when it comes to Jquery |
| 14:47 | thans | |
| 14:47 | thanks | |
| 14:47 | I'll try | |
| 14:47 | jcamins | jquery API reference? |
| 14:47 | jQuery API reference is http://api.jquery.com/ | |
| 14:47 | jquery api reference? | |
| 14:47 | wahanui | i think jquery api reference is http://api.jquery.com/ |
| 14:48 | libsysguy | $("#elementid").addClass("delete"); |
| 14:48 | or something like that | |
| 14:49 | nengard | $('.no-image').remove(); |
| 14:49 | bingo | |
| 14:49 | adding to wiki | |
| 14:49 | libsysguy | doesn't that remove all elements with that classname? |
| 14:49 | is that what you were going for? | |
| 14:49 | jcamins | libsysguy: yes. |
| 14:49 | And yes. | |
| 14:50 | * libsysguy | generally goes with the hide class |
| 14:50 | jcamins | libsysguy: that'd work too. |
| 14:50 | Might even be preferable. | |
| 14:50 | libsysguy | famous last words |
| 14:51 | nengard | libsysguy, so i shouldn't use what i put there |
| 14:51 | i should use something else | |
| 14:51 | .addClass("delete"); | |
| 14:51 | libsysguy | well .remove will work |
| 14:51 | nengard | instead of .remove(); |
| 14:51 | libsysguy | but I would prefer to add a delete or a hide clas |
| 14:51 | probably whatever there is already in the stylesheet | |
| 14:51 | jcamins | Or just change the CSS to hide .no-image. |
| 14:51 | libsysguy | there is usually a class to add display:none; |
| 14:51 | jcamins | There are many options. |
| 14:52 | libsysguy | ALL THE OPTIONS |
| 14:52 | there really is no right or wrong way | |
| 14:52 | jcamins | I think the best is probably the CSS-only one. |
| 14:53 | libsysguy | it certainly makes troubleshooting much easier |
| 14:53 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 14:53 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #81: "<owen> Free beer *and* free puppy, but be careful: the puppy is drunk." (added by druthb at 01:47 PM, June 28, 2010) |
| 14:54 | druthb | @quote random |
| 14:54 | huginn | druthb: Quote #166: "jcamins: this is IRC. There's a several decade long tradition of lurking." (added by wizzyrea at 03:06 PM, November 17, 2011) |
| 14:54 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
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| 15:14 | kf | @quote random |
| 15:14 | huginn | kf: Quote #66: "<paul_p> shame on koha, mySQL & user !" (added by jwagner at 03:39 PM, March 04, 2010) |
| 15:14 | kf | I could use some advice of the master UI designer.... |
| 15:15 | drojf | have you wished hard enough? |
| 15:15 | kf | working on it |
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| 15:22 | kf | hi JesseM |
| 15:22 | JesseM | Hi kf |
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| 15:47 | tcohen | jcamins, can I send you two files so u look at them? I'm sutck |
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| 16:04 | nengard | the 3.10 release notes talks about a new system preference: OPACShowHoldsCount but it's not in my install of master or 3.10 stable |
| 16:04 | ideas? | |
| 16:04 | both were upgrades - not new installs | |
| 16:05 | bug 7398 | |
| 16:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Show number of holds on a title in the OPAC details |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:18 | drojf | nengard: i see OPACShowHoldQueueDetails in the patch, no OPACShowHoldsCount?! |
| 16:18 | nengard | oh! |
| 16:18 | wait, that was the old pref | |
| 16:18 | that was there in 3.6 i think | |
| 16:18 | or earlier | |
| 16:19 | that's for showing the patron where they are in the queue, not for showing the number of holds in the opac | |
| 16:19 | so maybe that pref never made it in | |
| 16:19 | nevermind me - actually it does have new options | |
| 16:21 | drojf | i think paul_p did not like to have two new sysprefs (comment 9) |
| 16:21 | nengard | yeah it makes good sense |
| 16:21 | but that the release notes confused me | |
| 16:22 | drojf | it should not be in there if it does not exist :) |
| 16:25 | kf | hm |
| 16:25 | wondering about something else | |
| 16:25 | shouldn't we write a press release and send that to marshall breeding about 3.10? | |
| 16:25 | a bit late now maybe, but it would still be good I think | |
| 16:25 | with altered release notes if necessary ;) | |
| 16:25 | ok, now I leave for tody - bye all | |
| 16:25 | drojf | you mean he does not read 48 pages of koha release notes? what a lazy person |
| 16:26 | have fun in the snow kf | |
| 16:26 | kf | no, I meant he does not put it in his news if you don't send him sth |
| 16:26 | drojf | ah |
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| 16:26 | drojf | we should have a public relations manager |
| 16:28 | is checking out books only to the library reading room (and not to take home) a thing outside of germany? i wonder how you do that in koha | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | drojf: that's very common. |
| 16:28 | There are two ways. | |
| 16:29 | One is to check items out to the patron, one is to check items out to the reading room. | |
| 16:29 | gaetan_B | drojf: you might want to define hourly loans also |
| 16:30 | drojf | i had a library ask at the workshop. i think that is what they actually want to do, but they did some things with not for loan and that does obviously not work. because you cannot put stuff on hold that is not for loan ;) |
| 16:31 | or worse, you can, if it is on order. so they tried to build on that and it does not work | |
| 16:33 | nengard | kf i can do that if you think everyone would like |
| 16:33 | i write the press for bywater | |
| 16:38 | vfernandes | How I can transform one 942$c code to the description? |
| 16:39 | using XSLT | |
| 16:39 | rambutan | +1 public relations manager |
| 16:39 | jcamins | vfernandes: first question? |
| 16:39 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 16:40 | vfernandes | I want to pass in the OAI the correct document type which is the 942$c but if I access it directly I only obtain the code |
| 16:41 | I've do a little modification to OAI xslt | |
| 16:41 | drojf | can't you do that at the receiving end? i think i saw that in vufind yesterday |
| 16:41 | jcamins | I see. |
| 16:41 | You can't do that only with XSLT. | |
| 16:41 | I would do the mapping on the harvester. | |
| 16:42 | vfernandes | ok that's difficult :/ |
| 16:43 | drojf | oh it's for koha location codes in vufind |
| 16:45 | jcamins | You could write your own lookup function in the custom XSLT, but I can't think of any other options. |
| 16:48 | vfernandes | ok thanks... |
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| 16:50 | drojf | is magazine the english word for the non-public place in (or outside) the library where you store books? or what is that called? |
| 16:50 | or just archive maybe | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Archive or off-site storage. |
| 16:51 | drojf | thanks |
| 16:53 | to use that in koha, would i open a new branch for it and then transfer to the main branch? | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | It depends. |
| 16:55 | If you have staff off-site, y es. | |
| 16:55 | *yes | |
| 16:55 | If your regular staff just walk over to pick it up you can make it a location. | |
| 16:55 | Or item type. | |
| 16:55 | wahanui | i guess item type is set correctly in items |
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| 16:56 | drojf | thanks jcamins |
| 16:56 | hola cait | |
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| 16:57 | cait | hi dr |
| 16:57 | drojf: | |
| 16:57 | hi drojf | |
| 16:57 | lol | |
| 16:57 | drojf | :) |
| 16:58 | dr. drojf. i like that | |
| 16:59 | cait | yeah, i thought you would |
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| 17:02 | * jcamins | thinks Herr Doktor Professor is a better title. :) |
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| 17:07 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:07 | cait | jcamins: Herr Professor Doktor... :) |
| 17:07 | drojf | lol jcamins. it's … |
| 17:07 | cait was faser | |
| 17:07 | faster | |
| 17:08 | cait | ;) |
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| 17:20 | jcamins | YES!!! |
| 17:20 | Zebra 2.0.53 was released. | |
| 17:21 | libsysguy | what is coming with that version? |
| 17:21 | that we care about** | |
| 17:21 | s/we/jcamins/ | |
| 17:21 | ;) | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | libsysguy: @attr 5=2 and @attr 5=3 for ICU. |
| 17:22 | Also, I think they may have fixed the segfault I just encountered. | |
| 17:22 | libsysguy | uuu a segfault |
| 17:23 | one of the many reasons I don't miss c/c++ | |
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| 18:03 | * chris_n | yells "vim rules" and quickly runs away :-) |
| 18:16 | tcohen | vim++ |
| 18:17 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:17 | wahanui | Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 18:18 | tcohen | morning rangi |
| 18:22 | chris_n | hey rangi |
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| 18:38 | jcamins | rangi: when you get back from getting coffee, could you give me a brief refresher on how to move branches to koha-archive? |
| 18:40 | rangi | Righto |
| 18:40 | jcamins | And by "refresher" I mean "tell me for the first time." |
| 18:40 | rangi | Bbiab |
| 18:49 | jcamins: closing 9066 sounds good to me, im probably not going to try porting any more plack fixes to 3.8.x | |
| 18:50 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 18:50 | rangi | heya magnuse |
| 18:50 | wahanui | i think magnuse is afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 18:51 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 18:51 | rangi | jcamins: ok, so pushing to the archive |
| 18:51 | magnuse | guten abend cait |
| 18:52 | * jcamins | listens eagerly. |
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| 18:55 | rangi | add a remote for the archive repo |
| 18:57 | jcamins | Done. |
| 18:57 | rangi | checkout your branch locally |
| 18:57 | eg new/bug2567 is old | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | So: git checkout -b bug2567 kc/new/bug2567 |
| 18:57 | ? | |
| 18:57 | rangi | yep |
| 18:58 | then | |
| 18:58 | git push gitmastergit.koha-community.org:koha-archive.git your_branch |
|
| 18:59 | id call it new/bug2567 | |
| 18:59 | makes the delete bit easier | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:59 | Got it. | |
| 19:00 | rangi | then check its there by doing a git fetch or by looking at http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ive.git;a=summary |
| 19:00 | then | |
| 19:01 | git push gitmastergit.koha-community.org:koha.git :new/bug2567 |
|
| 19:02 | and you can git branch -D it locally if you want (i kept my local copy, cos im paranoid) | |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Hm. Looks like I don't have permission to delete the new/* branches. |
| 19:03 | Or I did it wrong. | |
| 19:03 | rangi | ahh could well be |
| 19:03 | 2 secs | |
| 19:05 | try that | |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Yup, that worked. |
| 19:05 | Thanks! | |
| 19:06 | rangi | cool |
| 19:06 | drojf | is there a valid reason why i cannot use 0 as a value in an OAI-PMH mapping? it seems like 0 is interpreted as "empty" and the mapping deleted |
| 19:07 | jcamins | drojf: valid in the sense of "you're not imagining it," probably. Valid in the sense of "reasonable," no. |
| 19:07 | drojf | defining a set of all not-suppressed records (942$n = 0) is not possible like that |
| 19:08 | jcamins | As I said, you're not imagining it, but there's no good reason. |
| 19:08 | drojf | ok |
| 19:08 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:08 | cait | drojf: sounds like a bug report is going to be filed |
| 19:08 | drojf | cait: by you? that's so nice :) |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Certainly not by me. :P |
| 19:09 | cait | nope |
| 19:09 | cait? | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | rumour has it cait is qam, not your secretary |
| 19:09 | drojf | hahaha |
| 19:09 | kf? | |
| 19:09 | wahanui | kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 19:09 | cait | wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 19:09 | wahanui | thanks cait :) |
| 19:09 | drojf | dirndl and slides are missing ;) |
| 19:09 | cait | slides? |
| 19:09 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
| 19:09 | cait | dirndl? |
| 19:09 | drojf | ah yes it was slides |
| 19:09 | cait | oh well... 50% |
| 19:09 | drojf | lol |
| 19:10 | cait | now I have entertained you enough, go write the bug! :P |
| 19:10 | hm we are making it a free conference. | |
| 19:10 | rangi | thats what i said |
| 19:11 | cait | yay |
| 19:11 | rangi | https://twitter.com/ranginui/s[…]75677786008612864 |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Probably all the new/awaiting_qa/* branches can be moved to the archive. |
| 19:13 | rangi | i think so |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Okay, now I know how to do it. |
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| 19:24 | rangi | sweet |
| 19:24 | yeah its not to bad | |
| 19:24 | if you were insane you could even use xargs and automate it | |
| 19:24 | libsysguy | so I haven't heard anything about the progress of Solr, I have seen some stuff poping up in the codebase though |
| 19:25 | rangi | but the first time you accidentally delete master would be the time i yell :) |
| 19:25 | jcamins | rangi: I feel better using my archive-branch git alias. |
| 19:25 | libsysguy: there is Solr code. | |
| 19:25 | libsysguy | meh there are a thousand copies of master rangi :p |
| 19:25 | jcamins | libsysguy: it doesn't work. |
| 19:25 | No, that's not fair. | |
| 19:25 | It works. | |
| 19:25 | cait | rangi yelling... |
| 19:25 | jcamins | It is not usable. |
| 19:25 | cait | I have a hard time imagining that |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Okay, that's not quite fair either. |
| 19:26 | It is usable, but not if you want a fully-featured catalog. | |
| 19:26 | There we go. | |
| 19:26 | libsysguy | heh |
| 19:26 | is it missing facet searching? | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | I'm not sure. It's missing all support for authorities. |
| 19:26 | libsysguy | its just authorities jcamins who uses those horrible things :p |
| 19:27 | i kid i kid | |
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| 19:27 | jcamins | And the configuration is almost exactly equivalent to GRS-1, which we ditched because it didn't allow us to do things like search by availability. |
| 19:28 | libsysguy | I have been poking through your search rewrite |
| 19:29 | and it looks…complex | |
| 19:29 | at least the PQF stuff does | |
| 19:29 | jcamins | (also, after two days fighting with it, I came to the unhappy conclusion that it wouldn't work under Squeeze without an act of god and major compiling from source code) |
| 19:29 | It's not. | |
| 19:29 | libsysguy | but that's probably just my unfamiliarity with terms |
| 19:29 | jcamins | It's embarrassingly simple. |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | it almost looked like a mapping table |
| 19:30 | * jcamins | adds for rambutan's benefit that simple != easy! |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | op= something |
| 19:30 | jcamins | Yes, it is a mapping table. |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | oh well there, simple |
| 19:30 | heh | |
| 19:31 | jcamins | Complex is the Postgres driver. |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | the one we wrote? |
| 19:31 | jcamins | No, the one that Evergreen uses. |
| 19:31 | We don't use Postgres. | |
| 19:33 | libsysguy | so is this the point where I should jump in and advocate for DBIx::Class? |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 19:33 | libsysguy | hey guys I think we should take a really close look at DBIX::Class for database agnosticism |
| 19:33 | ^^ like that? | |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Well done. |
| 19:33 | cait | lol |
| 19:33 | * libsysguy | takes a bow |
| 19:33 | * cait | loves #koha |
| 19:34 | cait | best show ever |
| 19:34 | libsysguy | Anna wonders why I have so much fun at work |
| 19:34 | jcamins | You know what would be nice? If DBIx::Class came with built-in YAML parsing bits. |
| 19:35 | cait | libsysguy: :) |
| 19:35 | libsysguy | hmm, that would be nice |
| 19:35 | we don't use YAML do we? | |
| 19:35 | cait | we do I think |
| 19:35 | the prefs? | |
| 19:35 | jcamins | We do in some places, and I will be using it also for the search rewrite. |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | has been working with catalyst again and is getting spoiled |
| 19:36 | * libsysguy | ^^ |
| 19:36 | jcamins | What does Catalyst use in place of YAML? |
| 19:36 | cait | libsysguy: as long as you remember: tests tests tests and testable small steps ;) |
| 19:36 | libsysguy | there are 3 options and YAML is one |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Cool: http://search.cpan.org/~jlmart[…]erializer/YAML.pm |
| 19:37 | What are the others? | |
| 19:37 | libsysguy | there is also that |
| 19:37 | wahanui | the others are too depressing |
| 19:37 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:37 | libsysguy | haha |
| 19:37 | http://search.cpan.org/~bricas[…]n/ConfigLoader.pm | |
| 19:37 | cait | what I said... best show ever :) |
| 19:38 | the bot is hilarious, should ask for an autograph sometime | |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | so in short: INI, JSON, PERL. XML, YAML, and Config::General |
| 19:40 | look to be the top ones | |
| 19:40 | I have been using Config::General | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | Well, I hate INI, XML is silly, I have no idea what "Perl" means in this context, and YAML is just JSON with lots of whitespace, so I'll stick with YAML. |
| 19:41 | Also, I need to store hashes and arrays of hashes. | |
| 19:41 | Not really INI-type data. | |
| 19:41 | druthb | hash? |
| 19:41 | hash is <reply> Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash. | |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | hash-ception |
| 19:42 | mmm breakfash hash | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | And Config::General doesn't make sense if you're storing data in the database, IMO. |
| 19:42 | druthb | hash? |
| 19:42 | wahanui | Ask druthb; she'll serve you a nice plate of roast beef hash. |
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| 19:43 | jcamins | rangi: BTW, any chance I could persuade you to push bug 8820 so it doesn't sit around in the Passed QA queue taunting me? |
| 19:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8820 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Don't show orders table if there are no orders |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | http://search.cpan.org/~bricas[…]r/Manual.pod#Perl |
| 19:44 | jcamins | And since I'd prefer a format that is not necessarily tied to the language, that won't do. |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | dude you're so picky lol |
| 19:45 | but anyway back to the point | |
| 19:45 | we need to QA DBIX::Class | |
| 19:45 | and I'm not allowed to QA myself | |
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| 19:48 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 19:48 | libsysguy | hi mveron |
| 19:48 | mveron | hi libsysguy |
| 19:49 | @wunder basel | |
| 19:49 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 1.0°C (8:30 PM CET on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:49 | * libsysguy | has discovered from trolling around other irc rooms that its kind of sad to say hi when you come in and nobody else talk to you |
| 19:49 | mveron | :-) |
| 19:50 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 19:50 | long time no see! | |
| 19:50 | mveron | hi cait :-) |
| 19:50 | jcamins | libsysguy: maybe I'll use DBIx::Class for in-database search configuration. |
| 19:50 | mveron | I had a lot of non-koha work to do... But this evening I want to sign-off some bugs |
| 19:50 | rangi | mveron++ #signing off patches |
| 19:52 | cait | yep mveron++ |
| 19:54 | libsysguy | jcamins you're going to use it for pulling db configs? |
| 19:54 | actually paul_p said he saw a performance decrease using DBIx::Class with CGI | |
| 19:55 | rangi | you will |
| 19:55 | its significantly more overhead than raw sql | |
| 19:55 | gotta balance it up, with does the other advantages outweigh the performance hit | |
| 19:58 | libsysguy | I think its an important step forward |
| 19:58 | even if it is a performance hit now | |
| 19:58 | maybe one day we can phase out cgi ;) | |
| 19:59 | rangi | you can make that day come sooner by making psgi work out of the box, and with the packages .. as easy as apache does, sooner that happens the sooner we can get rid of it |
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| 20:02 | cait | guess drojf is having connection problems again |
| 20:04 | jcamins | libsysguy: if DBIx::Class gets in I might. |
| 20:05 | libsysguy | so this is like a big catch22 |
| 20:05 | :p | |
| 20:05 | rangi | not really no |
| 20:05 | make the install for plack work as easy as it does now for apache, no editing config files no editing anything | |
| 20:05 | an init.d script to keep it running, locks, logs etc | |
| 20:06 | then we are back where we are now with apache | |
| 20:06 | libsysguy | and still offering apache |
| 20:06 | rangi | then we are in a position to consider phasing out cgi |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:06 | libsysguy | so users that choose apache are willingly taking the hit |
| 20:06 | rather than a forced hit | |
| 20:07 | rangi | yeah |
| 20:07 | and dont hit them, until they actually have a viable alternative | |
| 20:07 | :) | |
| 20:07 | at least, dont hit things like circ | |
| 20:07 | libsysguy | heh |
| 20:07 | rangi | and things that have to be fast, until they can reasonably opt for psgi |
| 20:08 | at the moment, you couldnt tell people to use psgi .. only developers could | |
| 20:08 | that's not our target :) | |
| 20:09 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 20:10 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 20:10 | * gmcharlt | waves too |
| 20:10 | cait | hi gmcharlt |
| 20:10 | jcamins | My PSGI configuration is PDN (Pretty Darn Nice), if I say so myself. |
| 20:12 | I got it down to having host names in only one file. | |
| 20:16 | Oh, good news: Plack::Middleware::ReverseProxy is available in Wheezy. | |
| 20:21 | * tcohen | says 'and so in 12.04' and runs away :-P |
| 20:21 | jcamins | tcohen: well, yeah, I installed it from packages on my system. |
| 20:22 | libsysguy: the other issue, of course, with PSGI is that everything has to work with PSGI. | |
| 20:22 | tcohen | moved to testing with DBD::Mock::Session BTW |
| 20:24 | jcamins | DBD::Mock::Session? I'm not familiar with that. |
| 20:24 | Ah. | |
| 20:24 | Intriguing. | |
| 20:25 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "libsysguy: non-exhaustive list of probable problems for PSGI based on a quick grep" (133 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/298 |
| 20:25 | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my $holidays_session = DBD::Mo" (22 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/299 | |
| 20:26 | tcohen | druthb_away: we'll have news tomorrow (GMT-3) |
| 20:26 | jcamins | tcohen: very cool. |
| 20:26 | libsysguy: you're welcome. I know you wanted an idea of the scope of the problem. | |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | ... |
| 20:27 | nobody likes a smart ass jcamins :p | |
| 20:27 | jcamins | We hope that at least some of those are in POD. |
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| 20:30 | jcamins | Ugh. |
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| 20:30 | cait | ops |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Fun fact: C4::ItemCirculationAlertPreference uses AUTOLOAD. |
| 20:30 | cait | jcamins: what did you grep for? |
| 20:31 | jcamins | As do a bunch of other classes that don't need to. |
| 20:31 | cait: grep -RE "^my " C4/* | grep -v '.t:' | |
| 20:32 | cait | oh |
| 20:32 | what does it translate to? | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | I looked for "my" at the very beginning of the line, but not in .t files. |
| 20:32 | libsysguy | regex's don't translate :p |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Some of those may be POD. |
| 20:32 | cait | so every my is a possible problem? |
| 20:32 | jcamins | However, that doesn't include anything in BEGIN {} and INIT {} blocks. |
| 20:33 | Every my that is not not in a subroutine, yes. | |
| 20:34 | cait | hm interesting |
| 20:34 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 20:35 | jcamins | libsysguy: before we could claim that PSGI is safe, it would have to be possible to include nothing but C4::Context in the .psgi file. |
| 20:38 | drojf | OAI question. i can list my sets with ListSets, i can list my records with ListRecords. how do i list the records from a certain set only? |
| 20:39 | * jcamins | doesn't know, sorry. |
| 20:40 | drojf | HA! i found something jcamins does not know |
| 20:40 | * drojf | marks the day in the calendar |
| 20:40 | drojf | ;) |
| 20:40 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:41 | drojf | i thought adding a &set=mysetname would do, but it is empty. maybe my set definition does not work |
| 20:41 | tcohen | does blessing a variable make it safe for assignment without initialization? |
| 20:41 | (a hash or array variable) | |
| 20:41 | pastebot | "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "A) $self->{day_month_closed_da" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/300 |
| 20:42 | jcamins | blessing a variable makes it blessed so that you probably shouldn't be doing any assignments to it. |
| 20:43 | For hashes, the entry is automatically created. | |
| 20:43 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #70 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:44 | cait | drojf: I think there is a job involved in building the set |
| 20:44 | s | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | So when you do $self->{whatever} = { 2 => 'stuff' }, the {whatever} key is created. |
| 20:44 | cait | maybe check bugzilla to find the bug that introcuded sets |
| 20:45 | jcamins | tcohen: does that answer your question? |
| 20:45 | tcohen | hmm, not really |
| 20:45 | i moved an assignment that lived in the _init function outside of it | |
| 20:46 | drojf | cait: yes i started to wonder how it would do that on the fly :) |
| 20:46 | tcohen | the way you read in my latest parte |
| 20:46 | paste | |
| 20:46 | and get this warning | |
| 20:46 | jcamins | Okay, so the problem is you had (A) but you want something more like (B) and are trying to resolve the warning? |
| 20:47 | tcohen | i had A in the _init function, moved to B in a separate method, and got this warning |
| 20:47 | I'll just revert that change | |
| 20:47 | but don't understand what's the difference | |
| 20:47 | think i'll have to reread perltoot | |
| 20:47 | jcamins | You should be using hashrefs rather than hashes, I think. |
| 20:49 | rangi would know better than I would, though. | |
| 20:49 | rangi | you should always pass refs |
| 20:49 | you can deref tham and play with them as hashes if you want, but you should always pass them as refs | |
| 20:50 | tcohen | i'm creating a hash inside the method, and returning a \@ reference |
| 20:50 | i guess my problem is with initialization | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | rangi: with a hash of a hash, I feel like it's better to have $variable->{key1}->{key2} than $variable{key1}{key2}... is that true? |
| 20:50 | tcohen | maybe i need to push values instead of just assigning |
| 20:51 | jcamins | Even if you're not necessarily passing $variable back. |
| 20:51 | rangi | jcamins: i find it a ton more readable |
| 20:51 | cait | :) |
| 20:51 | rangi | but thats a stylistic thing |
| 20:52 | the refs when passing is a peformance thing | |
| 20:52 | they are both valid tho i think | |
| 20:54 | tcohen | Use of uninitialized value in hash element at Koha/Calendar.pm line 61 |
| 20:54 | $day_month_closed_days{ $tuple->{ month } }{ $tuple->{ day } } = | |
| 20:54 | 1; | |
| 20:54 | jcamins | tcohen: and you're sure $tuple->{month} and $tuple->{day} are both defined? |
| 20:55 | tcohen | good question jcamins |
| 20:56 | drojf | d'oh. testing OAI in 3.8, but changing the settings for mapping in master. yeah for multikoha |
| 20:59 | rangi | ahh my trainee has arrived |
| 21:01 | cait | :) |
| 21:02 | good night all :) | |
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| 21:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #70: SUCCESS in 27 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/70/ |
| 21:10 | liz: Revert "Bug 9024: Add missing sample data to existing files" | |
| 21:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9024 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, RESOLVED FIXED, Add additional sample data to German installer |
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| 21:17 | rangi | hi Marlon |
| 21:18 | @wunder honiara | |
| 21:18 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Honiara / Henderson, Solomon Islands is 28.0°C (8:00 AM SBT on December 04, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:19 | rangi | !jenkins status |
| 21:19 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
| 21:19 | 3_6_Packages(BUILDING: 8 min 8 sec and counting): last build: 25 (5 days 18 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/3_6_Packages/25/ | |
| 21:19 | 3_8_packages: last build: 171 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]3_8_packages/171/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_3.10.x: last build: 27 (13 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/27/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_3.2.x(disabled) : last build: 36 (1 yr 0 mo ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_3.4.x(disabled) : last build: 80 (9 mo 16 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_3.6.x: last build: 70 (35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/70/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_3.8.x: last build: 241 (14 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/241/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_Docs: last build: 245 (8 hr 35 min ago): FAILURE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/245/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_Docs_3.8.x: last build: 7 (8 hr 35 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Docs_3.8.x/7/ | |
| 21:19 | Koha_master: last build: 965 (8 hr 50 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/965/ | |
| 21:19 | Master_Packages: last build: 146 (7 hr 43 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter_Packages/146/ | |
| 21:21 | rangi | bug 8849 |
| 21:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8849 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Error log generated when not a demo system |
| 21:21 | jcamins | Drat. |
| 21:21 | kohaversion.pl + bug 7167 = great confusion | |
| 21:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , updatedatabase improvements |
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| 21:38 | tcohen | d*mn, sudo cpan DBD::Mock solved ALL my issues |
| 21:39 | jcamins | Well, I wrote a patch for bug 9191. |
| 21:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9191 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase.pl must have ability to run updates only up to a particular revision |
| 21:42 | tcohen | a full day trying to make dbd::mock work, and the problem was it was an outdated version.. |
| 21:43 | libsysguy | tis okay tcohen, I have spent 3 afternoons trying to get logins working for my catalyst port and the problem was my server time was 5 days behind |
| 21:43 | doh | |
| 21:43 | chris_n | been there done that... will probably do it again too :-P |
| 21:43 | libsysguy | same |
| 21:44 | chris_n | syntax is a hard taskmaster |
| 21:44 | libsysguy | I feel retarded because I was on #catalyst asking what I could be doing wrong |
| 21:44 | indeed it is | |
| 21:44 | chris_n | time to head home; g'evening |
| 21:46 | tcohen | bye chris_n |
| 21:46 | thanks libsysguy | |
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| 21:50 | mveron | Good night #koha |
| 21:52 | tcohen | jcamins, i'll write some tests, i'll try to avoid any tcohen-ism too! |
| 21:52 | (pretty rewriting stuff heh) | |
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| 23:29 | tcohen | bye #koha |
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| 23:38 | jcamins | Bug 9202 |
| 23:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9202 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , TT plugin to allow direct display of MARC::Records |
| 23:58 | libsysguy | is mtj mason james? |
| 23:58 | bag | yes |
| 23:58 | mtj? | |
| 23:58 | wahanui | i guess mtj is a danger to bots everywhere. |
| 23:58 | libsysguy | poor wahanui |
| 23:58 | bag you know where he is hiding his work on bootstrap | |
| 23:59 | bag | heh |
| 23:59 | libsysguy | I'm trolling koha aloha |
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