IRC log for #koha, 2012-12-02

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02:15 chris_n heh... glad to know that it works... whatever it is
03:21 ouch... mysql takes 30 secs to process a left join of three tables w/ ~ 7K rows per table
03:29 adding a key reduced the time to 0.05 sec
03:30 * chris_n notes the importance of primary keys in temprorary tables
03:53 drojf joined #koha
03:54 drojf hi #koha
03:57 @later tell cait the network did not like irc (among other things) but in the end we successfully installed ~12 kohas \o/
03:57 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
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06:08 rangi drojf++
06:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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07:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #26: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/26/
07:10 * oleonard: Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
07:10 * mathieu.saby: Bug 8946: corrections in inc files for UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
07:10 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
07:10 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8946 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Wrong label and missing values in UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
07:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #240 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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07:35 mib_rluai0 I just installed koha 3.10. I found acquisitions module is not working properly. Even after adding budgets and funds the acquisition system reports that the budgets are to be added to proceed further. I had to copy corresponding files form koha 3.8.6 version to make them work. Have anybody noticed the error and rectified.
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07:51 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #240: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/240/
07:51 * jcamins: Bug 9149: Add missing GetAuthorizedHeading
07:51 * mathieu.saby: Bug 8946: corrections in inc files for UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
07:51 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9149 critical, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , Patch 8823 introduces reference to non-existent function
07:51 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8946 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Stable , Wrong label and missing values in UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
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10:00 * francharb waves
10:44 cait hi francharb
10:44 francharb hi cait i
10:44 cait drojf: woohoo!
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11:30 drojf hi cait :)
11:30 cait hi drojf :)
11:30 how did it go?
11:30 drojf good!
11:31 cait awesome!
11:31 details!
11:31 wahanui details are in the link I just posted, but to boil down the proposal, I propose creating a new limited purpose mailing list for the confidential reporting and discussion of security bugs that aren't reported to Bugzilla
11:31 cait hehe
11:31 drojf it took only like 5-7 hours for all to get a koha running .d
11:31 :D
11:31 cait forget details!
11:31 wahanui cait: I forgot details
11:31 cait how many people showed up?
11:32 drojf 9 external, 2 th wildau, 2 gemeindebibliothek i think
11:32 cait cool :)
11:32 don't forget to write omething up for the newsletter
11:32 drojf we scared the gemeindebib people away with the commandline though
11:33 cait oh
11:33 did you get to move around inside of koha a bit too?
11:33 show around... you know what I mean :)
11:34 ok, that sentence was weird... I meant showing people around the interface of koha
11:35 drojf yes, but way less than i wanted to. we created a user account, a biblio+item to search in the opac… but at that point the first people had to leave and we turned to more special problems. had to try to get the person with external mysql database and broken umts connection to a running version simultaneously
11:35 cait oh
11:35 but you managed?
11:36 drojf yes. by sitting there and watching. it worked then with the config he claimed to be "exactly the same as before". must have been my aura :P
11:37 so many things not said. we could have done that the whole weekend. but it was a lot of fun
11:38 cait hehe
11:38 you know, that's a known effect :)
11:38 drojf :)
11:38 cait you can spend weeks exploring koha I think
11:38 drojf yeah. not everybody was happy about that
11:38 ;)
11:38 cait I spend alot of time with it and haven't tested all the new features yet
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11:43 WaylonR hello all! ah.... Okay, Zebrasrv.... how to handle over 200000 results? ->raw returns nothing.. suspect that Zebra is having issues with so many results.
11:44 Is there some config variable i can change?
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11:52 cait WaylonR: zebra should be ok
11:53 with that many, it's not relaly a lot for zebra
11:53 maybe there is a variable you could change, I am not sure
12:44 bug 4906
12:44 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1
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13:23 cait @wunder Konstanz
13:23 huginn cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 0.0°C (2:00 PM CET on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.99 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
14:00 jcamins WaylonR: Zebra works just fine when handling queries with 500k+ results. I do it all the time.
14:03 WaylonR then.. why is it coughing on 200k?
14:04 jcamins Because you're accessing it wrong.
14:04 Or there is some other unrelated issue.
14:05 Hm. It'd be nice if the filters on the invoice page worked.
14:06 cait: could you please test for me the filters on the invoice page?
14:07 cait sorry, was dealing with the laundry
14:07 reading back now
14:07 jcamins That's the first thing I said to you this morning. :)
14:07 I just woke up.
14:07 cait jcamins: there is a patch in the push list for you to fix that I tink - if invoice page = order receive page
14:08 jcamins No, I just pushed that.
14:08 cait I have been working on filling up your queue
14:08 jcamins It helped.
14:08 cait ok, so which filters are you talkin gabout?
14:08 jcamins The one you said the patch was not for.
14:08 cait ok
14:08 which filter?
14:08 because i didn't run into problems there in my quick check yesterday
14:08 jcamins I entered data into the "From" box.
14:10 cait give me 5 min
14:10 and good morning :)
14:15 francharb good moring jcamins and good laundry cait! ;)
14:15 :)
14:15 cait francharb: all done now :)
14:15 thankfully
14:15 francharb \0/
14:15 cait francharb: woke up to snow here today - how is the weather in ... lyon?
14:15 francharb snow as well
14:16 cait ah :)
14:16 francharb but just a little
14:16 nothing bad
14:16 cait december weather :)
14:16 francharb right!
14:17 I could hardly expect a warm sunny day...
14:17 so...
14:17 Snow is fine
14:17 cait francharb: I ran into a lot of problems with acqcreateitem item creation on receive yesterday - are you currently working with acq?
14:17 francharb especially, when I'm at home, in front of my computer ;)
14:17 cait not tring to blame you, only wondering if you ran into problems as well
14:17 francharb: same for me - snow is nice from the inside :)
14:18 francharb cait, I don't take it personnaly, no worries
14:18 but no, I'm working on circulation today
14:18 for a training i give tomorrow
14:18 cait ah good luck :)
14:18 francharb thank you
14:20 cait, what kills me today is that I realised that patch rangi pushed a couple month doesnt actually works like owen said in his comment 'http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=6976#c29)
14:20 huginn 04Bug 6976: major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, REOPENED , User hold limit can be avoided by users in OPAC
14:21 francharb and I read comments on this one as well : http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045
14:21 huginn 04Bug 4045: critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, In Discussion , No check for maximum number of allowed holds.
14:21 cait oh yes
14:21 francharb and thought I really should
14:21 take time to test everything
14:21 * cait nods
14:21 francharb so
14:21 cait you are stuck doing tests.
14:21 francharb thats one of my new years resolution
14:21 testing holds!
14:21 wahanui well, testing holds is a pain in the ...
14:21 francharb thats so truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue
14:22 cait oh yes
14:22 but testing acq is no better
14:22 we really need to stabilize things more
14:22 francharb cait, I knwo
14:22 cait only putting features on top will not help
14:22 *sigh*
14:22 I had prolbems with things I know used to work
14:22 francharb cait, but the thing is, for the hold thing, is that we had a good start
14:22 with all the comments on the 4045
14:23 I think you and Kyle were in the good direction
14:23 cait but they ddn't implement it like this?
14:23 francharb to stabilize
14:23 one thing at the time
14:24 cait, are you talking avout aquisition or circulation?
14:24 either way, it's complicated to know how everything works together
14:25 cait yeah
14:25 and both :)
14:25 * francharb wishes he had more time to do documentation!!
14:25 cait right now I find the filters on the acq invoice page not functional
14:25 francharb :(
14:25 cait time is alwaays the problem... and here we are... on a sunday
14:25 francharb yep
14:26 cait jcamins: filing a bug
14:26 francharb cait, right now, I really want just to stop everything and look back on the way I work
14:27 cait hm
14:28 francharb cause I feel I could do more for the community but I don't know how... I focus a lot on the library I work with and it's always hard to give back all I learned
14:28 Hopefully, in a week or two, I will have finish the translation of  the linkers documentation I did
14:29 s/I will have finish the translation/ I will have the translation finished
14:29 :)
14:30 but for every development biblibre did recently, there is not enough documentation
14:30 I know it
14:30 :(
14:30 cait francharb: you do a lot
14:30 francharb Hopefully, we will improve that in a near future!
14:30 cait it would be nice :)
14:31 francharb :)
14:31 and thank you
14:31 :=
14:31 :)
14:31 cait small steps, and a new release cycle is always a new chance too
14:31 to shake up things a bit
14:31 francharb yep!
14:31 cait francharb++
14:31 francharb cait++
14:31 ;)
14:31 :)
14:31 cait heh
14:31 I still feel bad for not making you do that patch at kohacon
14:31 new release cycle... new chances... :)
14:31 francharb hehe
14:32 I know!
14:32 And I still want to do it!
14:32 and I will as soon as I found the time for it! ;)
14:32 cait lots of capitalization errors to fix too... low hanging fruit hehe
14:54 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7896' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2f8ed3e6b60cc6699> / Bug 7896: follow-up: Allow translation of strings <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6459c3074ffa0616a> / Bug 7896: Acq statistics wizard: add filters and cell values <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=koha.git;a=commi
14:58 jenkins_koha Starting build #962 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #960 2 days 11 hr ago)
16:06 Project Koha_master build #962: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/962/
16:06 * colin.campbell: Bug 8429: Remove unnecessary use of Exporter from SIP/ILS
16:06 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary
16:06 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9168: Software error when filtering in receipt summary (followup)
16:06 * oleonard: Bug 9154 - On item edit page, highlight row of item being edited
16:06 * jonathan.druart: Bug 9134: There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
16:06 * oleonard: Bug 8117 [Follow-up] Divide budget periods into two tabs
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8429 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary use of Exporter in SIP/ILS objects
16:06 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8781: hiding of transfer page when it's useless
16:06 * julian.maurice: Bug 7896: Acq statistics wizard: add filters and cell values
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9168 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Software error when filtering in receipt summary
16:06 jenkins_koha * julian.maurice: Bug 7896: follow-up: Allow translation of strings
16:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9154 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On item edit page, highlight row of item being edited
16:06 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9134 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no previous link on the second page of the search results page
16:06 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Divide budget periods into two tabs
16:06 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Access to Transfer page while "independent branches" is on
16:06 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7896 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Acquisition statistics wizard: add filters and cell values
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18:22 francharb see you later #koha
18:25 rangi Morning
18:25 wahanui hmmm... Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast.
18:28 cait morning rangi
18:34 rangi @wunder nzwn
18:35 huginn rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 15.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa (Rising).
18:36 cait @wunder Konstanz
18:36 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.0°C (7:35 PM CET on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
18:36 rangi Cold
18:37 cait yep and snowy
18:39 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
18:39 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 1.3°C (6:43 PM CET on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
18:39 rangi Hmm failing tests I wonder if they are real fails
18:40 Will check at work
18:41 cait jared left you a message about updatedatabase i think
18:42 rangi Yep ran that
18:42 It's daily quotes it seems
18:42 cait both are db_dependant - didn't get further than that
18:49 rangi Ok my stop bbiab
18:57 back
19:02 !jenkins build koha_master now
19:02 jenkins_koha rangi: job koha_master build scheduled now
19:03 Starting build #963 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #960 2 days 15 hr ago)
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19:09 cait rangi: could you fix it?
19:09 hi trea :)
19:09 rangi we'll see
19:09 trea hi cait
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19:34 * wizzyrea waves
19:35 cait hi wizzyrea :)
19:35 * chris_n waves back
19:37 cait hi chris_n :)
19:38 chris_n heya cait
19:38 @wunder 28334
19:38 huginn chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 20.0°C (2:15 PM EST on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.29 in 1026 hPa (Rising).
19:38 chris_n balmy
19:38 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:38 huginn cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -1.0°C (8:35 PM CET on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
19:38 chris_n trade? :)
19:40 cait yep
19:51 @later tell eythian ping me when you are around? :)
19:51 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
20:10 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed!
20:10 Project Koha_master build #963: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/963/
20:15 druthb @wunder 66046
20:15 huginn druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 19.4°C (2:15 PM CST on December 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Falling).
20:31 wizzyrea @wunder wlg
20:31 huginn wizzyrea: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 19.0°C (9:00 AM NZDT on December 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Rising).
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20:31 wizzyrea YAY that works. And yes, it is glorious outside
20:31 cait yay build fixed :)
20:32 wizzyrea cait - I have pootle problems
20:33 cait I can try an dhelp - but maybe you should ask ruth :)
20:34 wizzyrea actually it's more along the lines of "htf do you edit this thing"
20:34 with poedit
20:34 cait ok, what do you want to do?
20:34 wizzyrea well I want to edit one line because of the funny escaping
20:35 i found it, but I can't seem to change it?
20:35 cait what is the line now and how do you want to change it?
20:35 do you have a submit button or only a suggest button?
20:35 maybe it's permissions
20:35 wizzyrea oh this is in the .po, in poedit
20:35 cait but if you want to add escaping - be careful with it.
20:35 pootle does weird things to \
20:35 wizzyrea no, I want to remove some
20:36 that is causing a proble
20:36 problem
20:36 cait ok, are you using poedit or pootle?
20:36 wizzyrea poedit
20:36 cait aaah
20:36 poedit
20:36 ok
20:36 ok, sorry
20:36 wizzyrea no I'm sorry >.<
20:36 cait let's not argue about being sorry :)
20:36 wizzyrea haha
20:36 cait hm, trying to figure out how to help you
20:37 you found the string with search?
20:37 wizzyrea yea
20:37 but I can't edit it, and that seems weird
20:37 cait and you are trying to write into the second text filed? there is the list, then the orginal, then your translation
20:37 s/filed/field
20:37 wizzyrea well I think they both are flawed
20:37 cait you can only edit the second
20:37 the first is derived from the template
20:38 wizzyrea ok - cool then I won't worry about the first
20:38 cait it's the original string from the template, you have to correct it there
20:38 wizzyrea gotya, that is crucial info :)
20:38 cait :)
20:38 wizzyrea I think I can manage it now thanks *hug*
20:38 cait you can make the files visible somehow
20:38 where it is used
20:38 check the view options
21:03 wizzyrea cool, ty cait
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21:41 eythian hi
21:41 cait hi eythian
21:44 jenkins_koha Starting build #964 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED)
21:46 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8641' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]28b8703742d202375> / Bug 8641 [Follow up]-Reword warning about log-in as root user to About-System information <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7159906c84282034e> / Bug 8641 [Follow-up] Add warning about log-in as root user to About page <http
22:26 drojf suddenly vufind
22:26 cait hm?
22:27 drojf oh, not really.  it does not find the test record i harvested from koha. but i can log in with my koha account :)
22:29 cait oh
22:29 working on a vufind koha connector?
22:29 drojf there is one already. just wanted to have a look at vufind at all for a start
22:30 i don't know what all i can do, i think the connector is not complete
22:31 i can see taht i have one item on loan, but no title information. not too informative ;)
22:31 *that
22:31 cait :)
22:31 but a start
22:31 drojf but connecting in general is not complicated
22:50 ha. i put the find in vufind :)
22:50 cait lol
22:54 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #964: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/964/
22:54 * fridolyn.somers: Bug 9123: Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
22:54 * oleonard: Bug 8641 [Follow-up] Add warning about log-in as root user to About page
22:54 * melia: Bug 8641 [Follow up]-Reword warning about log-in as root user to About-System information
22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9123 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authorities search ordered by authid does not work
22:54 jcamins_away rangi: could you please enable the perlcritic test on jenkins?
22:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Add information warning about log-in as root user to About->System information
22:58 jcamins_away (so it will fail if we get additional failures)
22:58 (I think you said you had one that you hadn't enabled yet)
23:06 wizzyrea Does marking items lost in batch edit assess the replacement charge?
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23:07 jcamins_away Good question.
23:07 * jcamins_away nominates wizzyrea to find out.
23:07 wizzyrea haha
23:08 righty o
23:15 rangi it already does run perlcritic
23:15 the t/00-testcritic.t one anyway
23:16 jcamins_away rangi: hm... we had discussed enabling another test during the 3.12 release cycle... any idea what it was?
23:16 Oh!
23:16 Test coverage.
23:17 So that jenkins will call the build unstable if there's a reduction in coverage.
23:21 I bet we could add an incremental perlcritic test too.
23:24 cait night #koha
23:24 ah 'don't make it worse' test? :)
23:25 jcamins_away cait: exactly.
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23:54 rangi yeah ill work on that
23:54 probably over xmas
23:55 jcamins_away Thanks.
23:55 Take your time.
23:56 We've done without it for 12 years, we can do without it a bit longer. :)

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