IRC log for #koha, 2012-11-30

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00:08 jcamins melia++ # *that* is a testing report
00:09 melia thanks! :)
00:10 wizzyrea :) melia is quite good at that
00:10 drojf ah yes i did not do the translation update because the server did not work for me. now that i saw how slow it is i remembered ;)
00:11 but it looks ok now
00:11 (my koha, the server is still very slow)
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00:18 melia hey jcamins I just saw your note about changing the email address. thanks! I hadn't even noticed that it was wrong.
00:19 jcamins melia: yeah, I kept on noticing after I'd merged the patches you signed off on into master, so I figured I'd point it out to you so you could fix it. :)
00:19 melia done!  let me go find another one to sign off and make sure it's right now
00:28 jcamins Wait, there was a new livecd released?
00:28 Guess someone needs need to tell Vimal to post on k-c.org.
00:36 drojf jcamins: you mean 3.8.6? he announced it on the mailing list. i never got to answer anything useful or really try the disk though
00:36 jcamins He did?
00:36 drojf yes, it was quite some time ago
00:37 jcamins I never received it.
00:37 I'm glad he announced it, though. :)
00:38 drojf 27.10.2012 [Koha] Koha Live CD for testing. seems like it was only on the main list
00:39 no, it was also on the dev list
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03:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7687' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7b8aded8b48ab9c71> / Bug 7687 - Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d1b34a72319759e6> / Merge branch 'bug_8981' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=ko
03:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #960 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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04:35 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #960: SUCCESS in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/960/
04:35 * oleonard: Bug 8710 - Don't show the images tab in the OPAC if the record has no local images
04:35 * jonathan.druart: Bug 8164: Replace IFNULL with COALESCE
04:35 * oleonard: Bug 7731 [Follow-up] Library should be used instead of branch and site
04:35 * kyle: Bug 5801 - C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch wrongly used in opac-reserve.pl
04:35 * dcook: Bug 8981 - Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
04:35 * Paul Poulain: Bug 8981 follow-up: case
04:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Do not show the images tab in the OPAC if the record has no local cover images
04:35 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 7687 - Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
04:35 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8164 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Replace IFNULL() with COALESCE() in all database calls
04:35 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7731 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Library should be used instead of branch and site
04:35 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5801 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch should not be used in opac-reserve.pl
04:35 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
04:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
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04:48 sdawa please help me out in creating patron card from KOHA
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07:13 jenkins_koha Starting build #24 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
07:15 alex_a_ bonjour
07:15 cait hi alex_a_ :)
07:15 rangi hi alex_a_
07:19 alex_a_ hi rangi and cait :)
07:20 cait friday!
07:22 alex_a_ yeahhh!
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07:24 cait bonjour laurence
07:25 oh new newsletter :)
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07:40 laurence hi cait
07:43 sophie_m hello #koha
07:43 rangi hi laurence and sophie_m
07:43 cait hi sophie_m :)
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07:46 reiveune hello
07:46 wahanui salut, reiveune
07:46 rangi hi reiveune
07:47 reiveune hi rangi, magnuse, cait
07:48 cait bbl
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07:55 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #24: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/24/
07:55 kyle: Bug 5801 - C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch wrongly used in opac-reserve.pl
07:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5801 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch should not be used in opac-reserve.pl
07:55 jenkins_koha Starting build #25 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
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08:04 lds hello
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08:19 kf hi #koha
08:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #239 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS)
08:29 * magnuse waves
08:29 * kf waves back
08:38 * magnuse ponders organizing relevant parts of the wiki into a "developer handbook" - it could be a template with a "table of contents" repeated at the bottom of relevant pages
08:45 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #25: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.10.x/25/
08:45 * dcook: Bug 8981 - Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
08:45 * Paul Poulain: Bug 8981 follow-up: case
08:45 * oleonard: Bug 7687 - Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
08:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
08:45 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7687 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Remove problematic CSS gradient declarations targeting Internet Explorer
08:45 magnuse success! \o/
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09:05 magnuse danielg++
09:05 kia ora druthb_mobile
09:05 druthb_mobile Hi, magnuse
09:16 drojf good morning #koha
09:16 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #239: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/239/
09:16 * kyle: Bug 5801 - C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch wrongly used in opac-reserve.pl
09:16 * dcook: Bug 8981 - Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
09:16 magnuse hiya drojf
09:16 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 8981 follow-up: case
09:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5801 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , C4::Circulation::_GetCircControlBranch should not be used in opac-reserve.pl
09:16 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8981 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Remove Nonpublic General Note from OPAC authorities display
09:16 magnuse success! \o/
09:16 drojf hei magnuse
09:33 @wunder berlin, germany
09:33 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 3.9°C (10:13 AM CET on November 30, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady).
09:38 magnuse @wunder boo
09:38 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (10:20 AM CET on November 30, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
09:39 magnuse the wind is 22 m/s...
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10:25 samuel hi vereybody
10:25 everybody
10:25 wahanui everybody is so enthusiastic today :)
10:27 samuel something i don't know about the opac: can we add html pages in /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac ? I've created this link http://koha.ecp.fr/cgi-bin/koh[…]presentation.html but it gives 404 error
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12:39 tcohen morning #koha
12:41 jcamins_away We don't have any unit tests for circ.
12:41 We should be ashamed of ourselves.
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12:47 magnuse jcamins_away: we are...
12:48 tcohen i was about to write some for CalcDateDue
12:49 jcamins_away tcohen++
12:49 tcohen but got stuck on mockpackage
12:49 jcamins_away That's what I'm talking about! New unit tests!
12:49 We've been using MockModule.
12:49 It's pretty easy.
12:49 I don't know about MockPackage.
12:50 magnuse http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster/960/clover/?
12:50 kf1 tcohen: I think there is an example on chris blog too
12:50 tcohen b back in a minute
12:51 magnuse http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]thout-a-database/
12:52 ^^ uses Test::MockModule
12:52 * magnuse has not gotten his head around mocking yet
12:52 tcohen my problem is not how to use the mockmodule (wrote it wrong) but on what to mock
12:53 kf1 I think the calendar data?
12:53 tcohen what i was thinking is that
12:53 what i'd need o mock are some new functions
12:53 that retreive data from the DB
12:53 right now they cannot be mocked
12:53 as they are hardcoded in the init function
12:54 jcamins_away tcohen: where are you looking?
12:54 tcohen Koha::CAlendar
12:54 jcamins tcohen: I suspect you've identified a problem with the code.
12:55 Oh, no, maybe not.
12:55 It's an actual init function. I thought you meant INIT { } which is bad.
12:55 You can use DBD::Mock in this case.
12:56 tcohen ok, i didn't know of it
12:56 thanks
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13:00 tcohen uff, it's way harder using dbd::mock than mockmodule :-P
13:01 jcamins A little harder, maybe, but it's not that bad.
13:07 tcohen is much more difficult than mocking a function that returns an array :-P
13:09 jcamins Well, perhaps.
13:09 Okay, I need an opinion.
13:09 Bug 8782.
13:09 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8782 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Add a feature to close a subscription
13:10 jcamins Works great.
13:10 However, the squashed patches are by two different people.
13:10 Do I care?
13:11 Actually, never mind.
13:11 I don't.
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13:16 oleonard Hi #koha
13:16 tcohen magnuse, thanks for that link to rangi's post
13:21 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8782: Increment version number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]54c0df1a84ec94661> / Bug 8782: Close a subscription <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]09800605102dcde57> / Merge branch 'bug_7189' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3c0c8c99fb1866d73
13:26 kf1 jcamins: maybe tell people what you think about it generally? (good, bad, ...) ?
13:27 I think sqashng is not so nice with different authors
13:27 personally
13:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #961 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
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13:50 oleonard Ha, TinyMCE closed their "support forum" because they felt they got too many questions, now everyone posts questions in thei "Tips and Tricks" forum.
13:50 Nice to see that worked out :P
14:00 chris_n lol
14:00 * chris_n wonders how many questions are "too many?"
14:08 jcamins oleonard: maybe TinyMCE is not the right plugin for us?
14:08 oleonard yeah, I'm going to look at jWYSIWYG today
14:09 I don't see anything in the documentation about localization, although it comes with localization files
14:09 jcamins I feel like it shouldn't be so much trouble to translate.
14:11 oleonard jcamins: The main problem is that I'd like to find a solution where we don't have to include localization files for *all* languages with each Koha translation
14:12 Maybe that shouldn't be a priority
14:12 jcamins oleonard: yeah, but datatables allows us to just use an include file, so surely there must be a wysiwyg plugin that does the same... I'd hope.
14:12 kf1 oleonard: I would prefer a solution that works with po
14:12 drojf ouch. closing the support forum because of "too many questions" sounds like an interesting idea
14:12 kf1 oleonard: we have a lot of uncommon langauges too
14:13 drojf: where did you get that from?
14:13 drojf (14:48:43) oleonard: Ha, TinyMCE closed their "support forum" because they felt they got too many questions, now everyone posts questions in thei "Tips and Tricks" forum.
14:13 kf1: ^^
14:17 * drojf is not saying they should open a google group and everything would be fine
14:20 jcamins Yeah, but we're all thinking it.
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14:22 drojf because we know it's true!
14:23 i think i'll pass on the option of making a koha propaganda booklet in latex for the workshop tomorrow
14:26 kf1 hm?
14:26 oh tomorrow
14:26 wahanui tomorrow is pizza friday! or the day after today.
14:26 * kf1 will be online doing QA and hoping to get told some news :)
14:26 kf1 drojf: you will tell them about irc, won't you?
14:28 drojf i would have in the flyer i am abandoning… ;) i probably will. but the language barrier will do its thing so nobody will come
14:28 jenkins_koha Starting build #244 for job Koha_Docs (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #60 7 mo 6 days ago)
14:28 kf1 ooooh :(
14:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_Docs build #244: STILL FAILING in 28 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_Docs/244/
14:28 nengard: update patron categories
14:28 drojf i suppose it's a win if some will find the way to the german mailing list
14:29 kf1 always the optimist
14:33 oleonard Do office applications in other languages still use "B" to mean bold text?
14:34 kf1 hm
14:34 no
14:34 F
14:34 for German I think
14:36 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #961: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/961/
14:36 * oleonard: Bug 6602 - Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
14:36 * mathieu.saby: Bug 8946: corrections in inc files for UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
14:36 * jonathan.druart: Bug 8715: Receive all serials for a year.
14:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6602 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Reports dictionary doesn't properly recognize text columns
14:36 jenkins_koha * m.de.rooy: Bug 8032: Sort lists by call number
14:36 * maxime.pelletier: Bug 6945: Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view of the detail
14:36 * oleonard: Bug 6945 [FOLLOW-UP] Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view
14:36 * kyle: Bug 7189 - preference to control if returning lost items gives refund
14:36 * jcamins: Bug 7189: Increment version number
14:36 * jonathan.druart: Bug 8782: Close a subscription
14:36 * jcamins: Bug 8782: Increment version number
14:36 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8946 minor, P5 - low, ---, mathieu.saby, Pushed to Master , Wrong label and missing values in UNIMARC coded fields advanced search
14:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8715 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Select all serials for a year
14:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8032 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Sort lists by call number
14:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6945 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Master , Add a link to show a MARC preview in the normal view
14:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund
14:36 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8782 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add a feature to close a subscription
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14:43 Project Koha_Docs_3.8.x build #6: SUCCESS in 20 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_Docs_3.8.x/6/
14:43 nengard: update patron categories
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15:40 jcamins_away @later tell rangi Could you please run updatedatabase on jenkins?
15:40 huginn jcamins_away: The operation succeeded.
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16:13 reiveune bye
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18:26 jcamins You know what I would like to see? An OPAC-related syspref editor that actually shows you where the code you're editing shows up.
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18:37 cait hellooo #koha
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18:37 chris_n ehlo cait
18:37 cait hi chris_n :)
18:40 libsysguy EHLO 250
18:40 jcamins Argh! That added me to the CC list.
18:40 libsysguy oh sorry, this isn't a mail server
18:40 jcamins libsysguy: 250?
18:40 wahanui 250 is the number all of those wicked, naughty grant reviewers ask for.
18:40 jcamins wtf kind of server name is that?
18:40 wahanui that is, like, because it's phased out
18:40 libsysguy yeah doesn't the exchange server reply with
18:41 that?
18:41 wahanui that is, like, because it's phased out
18:41 libsysguy wahanui: forget that
18:41 wahanui libsysguy: I forgot that
18:41 libsysguy hehe
18:41 jcamins 250-this.server.com Hello chris_n
18:42 libsysguy anywho, I have a .t question that perhaps the QAM or the RM can answer
18:42 jcamins No you may not save the unit tests for later. :P
18:42 Go ahead. :)
18:42 libsysguy If I want to test that unique and repeating holidays are working
18:42 should that go in the calendar test
18:42 or the circulation test
18:42 btw Circulation.t fails 2/3 tests atm
18:42 jcamins Hm.
18:42 libsysguy :p
18:43 jcamins libsysguy: not for me.
18:43 libsysguy oh oops
18:43 jcamins You should be testing the calendar part of holidays in Calendar.t, and testing actually checking items out in Circulation.t.
18:43 libsysguy that was my test
18:43 jcamins lol
18:43 libsysguy it fails for quecat scanners :p
18:44 err cuecat
18:44 however you say that
18:44 jcamins There's a Javascript decoder you can use.
18:44 chris_n jcamins: lol
18:44 libsysguy so jcamins, doing it like that means I actaully have to commit my changes to the db right?
18:45 err commit my holidays
18:45 jcamins Not necessarily.
18:46 libsysguy I guess I could use Mock to fake a calendar addition
18:46 jcamins In Calendar.t, you want to test that the unique and repeating holidays you tried to create are created the way you wanted them to be.
18:46 You will then delete the holidays at the end of the Calendar.t test, using the deleting as a way to test holiday deletion.
18:47 In Circulation.t, you either create new holidays to test and then delete them at the end, or, even better, you mock the holidays using either DBD::Mock or MockModule.
18:47 libsysguy HA i knew it
18:47 lol
18:47 good thing I was already using MockModule
18:48 plug and play ftw
18:49 jcamins I need to write up code guidelines for unit tests.
18:49 *coding
18:49 The primary guideline, of course, is that they are not optional.
18:50 libsysguy nominates the QAM
18:50 who will then delegate it to me
18:50 jcamins lol
18:51 Nah, I'll write up the guidelines.
18:51 It is, after all, my particular talisman.
18:51 libsysguy oh so you're a guidelines man
18:51 heh
18:52 jcamins No, unit tests.
18:52 But other people like guidelines.
18:52 libsysguy I thought unit tests were rangi's bag
18:52 jcamins It's kind of a joint crusade.
18:52 libsysguy haha
18:54 cait lol
18:54 now I missed all this discussion
18:54 which is probably for the better :)
18:54 libsysguy: the secret is - I would never be able to write unit test guidelines to jcamins liking... and he knows it
18:55 so prefers to does it himself :)
18:55 libsysguy jcamins chant: UNIT TESTERS UNIT TESTERS UNIT TESTERS UNIT TESTERS
18:55 cait to do...
18:55 jcamins And unlike the crusade of Enjolras and Gavroche, ours will succeed against all odds.
18:55 * cait waves and sends cookies
18:55 is a cookie person
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18:56 libsysguy and im back with http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE
18:56 jcamins "Do you hear the people sing, singing the song of the unit test... it is the music of a people who will not allow their vigilance to rest!"
18:57 melia oh no. please not that guy again.
18:57 rambutan jcamins is clearly a man of letters
18:57 jcamins lol
18:57 rambutan: well, I watched the show, anyway. ;)
18:58 That's a good idea, though.
18:58 I shall read Les Miserables starting tomorrow.
18:58 rambutan I shall not have the time or inclination, I suppose.
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18:59 jcamins We'll see if I finish it.
18:59 It's pretty long, and in a language that I don't really speak very well.
19:00 rambutan Interesting, in doing some skimming-level research on the current topic of discussion I see that Jacques Barzun died last month.
19:00 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Barzun
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19:03 jcamins On the subject of French, I think I shall eat lunch before I attempt to decode this ownership inscription.
19:03 cait :)
19:07 rambutan jcamins should, then, have a glass of Chateau Lafite Rothschild with his lunch.
19:15 jcamins Actually, in a startling departure from the French theme I had dal for lunch.
19:15 And not just any dal... I had Dal-i Llentil!
19:15 cait lol
19:17 jcamins trea came up with that name.
19:17 Well, trea came up with Dal-i lentil, and another friend suggested the two 'l's.
19:31 drojf have not tried it yet but i'd be in favour of a "koha dal-i llentil". we should really get some kind of cookish and/or cookieish naming started
19:31 jcamins Agreed.
19:31 I'll give my previous food-related names.
19:32 *previews
19:32 What a bizarre typo.
19:32 drojf \o/
19:34 what number is thefork™ at nowadays?
19:34 oleonard 37.8
19:34 maximep hey, I have a question about authority merging. So if I edit something like the field 100$d, it updated all the attached notices. If I remove the 100$d, it doesn't seem to remove it from the notice. Is that a normal behavior ?
19:34 jcamins maximep: I don't recall.
19:35 I think that is not correct, though.
19:35 Incidentally, there have been 76 patches pushed to 3.12 since 3.10 was released.
19:37 drojf someone is a busy bee
19:39 maximep ok, so I guess it's a feature. Koha doesn't destroy data, only updates it
19:39 jcamins maximep: no, I think it's a bug.
19:40 Sorry, "I think that is not correct" is not the clearest statement one could make.
19:40 Indeed, it is second only to "I don't think that isn't correct" in incomprehensibility.
19:42 maximep haha
19:47 druthb I don't not agree with you, jcamins.    :P
19:48 jcamins druthb: thanks.
19:48 * druthb is just being obtuse to see if she can make you twitch.  Friday fun and games.
19:48 * jcamins followed.
19:51 * druthb gets out her pointy stick, and takes aim at the RM.
19:55 jcamins druthb: watch out or I'll put you on unit test-writing duty!
19:56 druthb use Test::Simple tests => 1; ok(1, 'Looks good to me');
19:57 all done!
19:58 cait lol
19:58 where is the pizza?
19:58 wahanui it has been said that the pizza is in the oven.
19:58 druthb looks like something libsysguy would write, doesn't it?
19:59 jcamins druthb: lol
19:59 * druthb looks innocent.
20:00 druthb wahanui: are there cookies?
20:00 wahanui bugger all, i dunno, druthb
20:00 druthb hmpf.
20:00 no botsnack!
20:00 cait druthb: be nice to wahanui
20:00 druthb translationmanagersnack cookie
20:01 wahanui botsnack cookie
20:01 wahanui :)
20:01 druthb cait: QAMsnack cookie
20:01 cait yum
20:05 druthb wahanui: cookie?
20:05 wahanui The cookie jar is on the RM's desk, so you'd better ask him about that.
20:05 * druthb puts on her innocent look again.
20:06 jcamins lol
20:08 druthb yah, the RM's desk is this ginormous half-hectare of polished oak, with an Aeron chair...the TMs is a rusty old television tray and a beanbag chair.  I win.
20:09 libsysguy hey don't hate on the Aeron chair
20:09 the QAA has one and it is quite comfortable :p
20:09 druthb libsysguy:   But..   d00d.   a BEANBAG chair!
20:09 jcamins lol
20:09 * libsysguy thinks of Ron White
20:09 jcamins I have an exercise ball for a chair.
20:10 libsysguy is that how you maintain core strength jcamins :p
20:10 oleonard And how he works off all the cookies
20:10 libsysguy its a new workout "Koha Abs"
20:10 jcamins libsysguy: that and banging my head on the table.
20:11 libsysguy oh so weighted situps too :p
20:11 * druthb waves the pointy stick at libsysguy.
20:11 libsysguy eek
20:12 ugh this test for circulation keeps getting longer and longer
20:12 MOAR CODE!!
20:12 * druthb crax the whip at libsysguy
20:14 * libsysguy also does not approve of the AddMember documentation
20:14 jcamins ::snrrrkkk:: <-- muffled laughter
20:15 libsysguy gesundheit
20:16 does that translate correctly to German?
20:17 jcamins libsysguy: what are you going to do when you find out it's a deadly insult and saying "gesundheit" to a German means a duel at dawn? :P
20:18 libsysguy i guess I'll just make sure to draw first?
20:18 oleonard Hm, so Bugzilla won't accept a 2.6MB patch...
20:18 libsysguy 2MB upload limit in PHP config?
20:18 err what does bugs runon?
20:18 run on**
20:18 oh perl
20:19 fancy that
20:19 jcamins oleonard: so TinyMCE seems like the best choice overall?
20:19 oleonard jcamins: What I'm doing is sending a patch to just move TinyMCE out of the translated path and trim it down some
20:20 jWYSIWYG seems promising, but it was also a little buggy, not as polished, and didn't offer as many features
20:20 Neither has a dead simple way to handle translations the way we want to
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20:21 jcamins oleonard: makes sense.
20:22 oleonard My proposed change will improve things, but not as much as I had hoped to all at once
20:26 libsysguy 024 is the marc field for barcode right?
20:27 jcamins libsysguy: what kind of barcode?
20:27 UPC?
20:27 libsysguy umm one for test data?
20:28 jcamins Barcode is stored in the item.
20:28 libsysguy well thats what I get for trying to read http://goo.gl/E6xWk
20:31 cait libsysguy: yep
20:32 about gesundheit being right :)
20:32 sorry
20:33 tcohen libsysguy, will u be working on circ tests?
20:33 cait it's friday, only half here
20:33 libsysguy oh I was like…ouch :'(
20:33 yes tcohen I'm trying to make sure the calendar is working with circ
20:33 I think its broken for unique holidays in 3.8.7
20:33 but I'm trying to prove it
20:34 jcamins Okay, _now_ I have everything I need to prepare a printed catalog of this collection.
20:34 * jcamins heads home to do that.
20:34 tcohen libsysguy, did u find a problem with the calendar unit tests?
20:34 libsysguy no I didn't
20:35 this problem is with item checkouts. It appears the due date doesn't push on holidays
20:35 tcohen what's the scenario you find problematic?
20:36 with fixed due dates?
20:36 libsysguy basically when you checkout and the date is on a holiday it still places the checkout there, no matter what the syspref is
20:38 tcohen the due date is calculated using circ matri or is it fixed by the checkout form ?
20:38 libsysguy calculated by the circ matrix
20:38 cait libsysguy: are you on latest master?
20:38 libsysguy no, 3.8.7
20:39 cait hm
20:39 libsysguy testing the "stable" release :p
20:39 tcohen you could try to debug what is readed from the circ matrix, otherwise it could be an issue with addDate
20:39 cait it sounds a bit like somthing that was fixed on master?
20:40 libsysguy well the odd thing is it appears to work with repeating holidays
20:40 tcohen make sure you are not using memcached when changing betwen different setps
20:40 libsysguy yeah definitely not using memcached on my test box
20:44 tcohen f* s*t
20:44 found it
20:44 we need to push some db_dependent tests
20:44 soon
20:44 libsysguy thats what I'm writing now
20:44 I'm tired of the calendar being broken all the time
20:44 :p
20:45 tcohen found the problem
20:45 libsysguy git link?
20:45 cait libsysguy++ and tcohen++ team_work++
20:45 tcohen on Koha::Calendat->init
20:46 libsysguy UGH
20:46 that damn init function needs to burn
20:46 tcohen isexception is swapped
20:46 between special holidays and exceptio holidays
20:46 libsysguy nice
20:46 * oleonard is off for the weekend, then in Boston for http://roost.bocoup.com/
20:46 libsysguy well thats a simple fix
20:46 tcohen 1 for 0 and viceversa
20:46 yeap
20:47 libsysguy you want to patch it or you want me to?
20:47 * libsysguy figured you were right there
20:47 oleonard See y'all later
20:47 libsysguy later oleonard
20:47 cait oleonard: have fun!
20:52 tcohen libsysguy, what do u prefer?
20:52 libsysguy doesn't matter to me
20:52 I can patch it
20:52 tcohen i'd fel more comfortable if we had a unit test for that hehe
20:53 libsysguy I'm about 50% done with it
20:53 cait :)
20:54 tcohen nice, good luck then!
20:54 bug 9074
20:54 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9074 normal, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , DB dependent tests for is_holiday
20:54 tcohen there's a discussion on db_dependent tests and its data sets
20:55 cait i have to admit it was me not being too happy about using the sample data like that :(
20:55 libsysguy there is also the db-independent test Calendar.t
20:56 cait i feel sorry forblocking tests, only felt like maybe we could do it a different way
20:56 libsysguy while I'm not too keen on db-dependent test myself
20:56 tcohen i'll try to make improvements in my undesrtanding of DBD::Mock this weekend
20:56 * libsysguy forgot where I was going with that
20:56 libsysguy yeah and MockModule
20:59 tcohen bye #koah
20:59 cait bye tcohen
20:59 tcohen good mock for every1
20:59 cait have a nice weekend
21:04 libsysguy Well that is frustrating
21:04 why do I have to pass the dbh to DelItem
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21:50 tcohen_home i'll give a try to mock_add_resultset
21:52 libsysguy did u fill the bug for special holidays?
21:53 libsysguy I didn't
21:53 tcohen_home (so i can name my local branch accordingly heh)
21:53 libsysguy I got sidetracked
21:53 heh
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22:22 tcohen_home libsysguy, I hope I finish my tests soon, because i think my guess ws wrong (on master at least)
22:26 libsysguy well shoot
22:33 jcamins I come bearing excellent news! The price of a 4-lb package of butter went down 50 cents!
22:35 Every...
22:35 year and a third...
22:36 a package of butter will be as good as free.
22:36 libsysguy how much better are you buying there Paula Dean...
22:37 jcamins libsysguy: during the holidays?
22:37 tons.
22:37 Other times of the year, I guess I probably buy a package every month or two.
22:38 libsysguy I guess you do a lot of baking?
22:38 jcamins Yes.
22:38 It's all for baking.
22:38 As a general rule, I don't like putting butter on things.
22:39 libsysguy yup you're definitely not from the south :p
22:39 jcamins lol
22:39 I get that a lot.
22:39 My wife, of course, is.
22:40 libsysguy oh?
22:40 where about?
22:41 jcamins Near Roanoke, Virginia.
22:41 libsysguy pshhh thats not the south
22:41 jcamins Her parents were transplanted New Yorkers, though, so she's not really typical of that region.
22:41 libsysguy transplanted
22:42 is that what they are doing in that state?
22:42 maybe thats why it was blue in 08
22:42 jcamins Yes. They moved to the Roanoke area in the 70s after having careers up here.
22:42 lol
22:42 libsysguy its like political integration
22:45 jcamins I also don't believe in cooking vegetables to a mush.
22:46 tcohen_home question, has anyone played with NULL values and DBD::Mock?
22:47 jcamins tcohen_home: what do you mean?
22:47 Okay, I'm pushing bug 8429.
22:47 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8429 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Unnecessary use of Exporter in SIP/ILS objects
22:47 tcohen_home i want to mock a db query that returns null values for some felds
22:47 jcamins '' isn't null enough?
22:47 Wait, I think you can just use undef.
22:48 What did I do?
22:48 tcohen_home i'll try undef
22:52 jcamins Okay, I do not like git-bz adding me to the CC list.
22:52 Not cool.
22:53 * jcamins fixes it.
22:59 jcamins melia: you know how you were just thinking you wanted a challenging bug to sign off on? :)
22:59 I have just the thing...
23:00 melia heh
23:00 I usually only do the very easy ones!
23:01 jcamins Bug 7919- it'll be fun!
23:01 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7919 new feature, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Display of values depending on the connexion library (authorised values, patron categories, extended attributes)
23:03 jcamins I need to ask rangi how to move branches to the koha-archive repo.
23:05 melia hhhmm. I can try that one...
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23:17 melia jcamins: it fails. I can't sign it off.
23:18 jcamins melia: well, that's a good thing to know too. Could you please note the problems you encountered on the bug?
23:18 Thanks. :)
23:18 melia yup I did. hopefully that'll help them fix it up.
23:18 jcamins Oh, you already did.
23:19 melia++
23:19 melia thanks :)
23:19 jcamins ^^ that was for testing this bug
23:20 melia++ # that's for generally awesome testing
23:20 melia it's kind of fun testing!  I'm learning a lot doing this
23:22 jcamins I'm glad. Your thorough testing is exactly what we need in the development phase for a lot of these bugs... did you ever think about becoming a developer? ;)
23:23 melia I actually have the Learning Perl O'Reilly book on my desk, but I hardly ever have time to look at it
23:24 jcamins As an aside, baked fingerling potatoes are kind of depressing... they're so tiny you need a half dozen.
23:24 melia but they're tasty!
23:25 jcamins They are.
23:25 Which is good, because I have several pounds from the CSA.
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