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01:22 | jcamins | rangi: you told me a command that will show me the parts of lines that were changed in git. |
01:22 | Remind me what it is? | |
01:32 | rangi | yep i have it aliased |
01:32 | 2 secs | |
01:36 | git show --word-diff=color | |
01:37 | jcamins | Thanks. |
01:39 | eythian | http://static.springsource.org[…]yFactoryBean.html <-- ahh, java. |
01:40 | jcamins | *Convenient*? |
01:41 | What's convenient about a class with a name like that? | |
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04:01 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
04:28 | mtj | rangi, still about? |
04:33 | rangi, just emailed you... | |
04:34 | eythian | mtj: he just left, presumably for the bus |
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04:35 | mtj | np, wasnt urgent |
04:36 | cait-m | hiya |
04:38 | mtj | hey cait :) |
04:38 | cait-m | hi mtj |
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04:38 | cait-m | hows things? |
04:39 | eythian | hi cait-m_ |
04:39 | also cait-m | |
04:39 | mtj | cait-m, still on holidayz? |
04:39 | cait-m | yep |
04:39 | this week | |
04:39 | mtj | me good over here :) |
04:39 | cait-m | but meeting with magnuse in oslo today :-) |
04:40 | and hi eythian ;-) | |
04:41 | @wunder oslo, norway | |
04:41 | huginn | cait-m: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is -4.5°C (5:41 AM CET on November 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 29.62 in 1003 hPa (Steady). |
04:42 | cait-m | brrrr |
04:42 | you 2 stiü | |
04:42 | still working? | |
04:46 | ok, boarding time | |
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05:51 | * wizzyrea | waves |
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07:30 | alex_a | bonjour tout le monde |
07:37 | rangi | hi alex_a |
07:37 | alex_a | hello rangi |
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07:41 | reiveune | hello |
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07:44 | rangi | hi reiveune and wizzyrea |
07:44 | wizzyrea | hi thar |
07:44 | reiveune | :) |
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07:49 | rangi | lds: did you do the cutover? |
07:51 | lds | rangi: I'm sorry I made a confusion between 10 h french and your 10 h :-( |
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07:52 | lds | rangi: i make the cutover this mornig, apology for the mistake |
07:52 | rangi | ahh ok, i cut it over, but i set the ttl low |
07:52 | so ill switch it back | |
07:52 | and you can tell me when you are ready | |
07:54 | julian_m | hi |
07:55 | rangi | hi julian_m |
07:55 | lds | rangi ok thanks |
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08:14 | gaetan_B | hello |
08:14 | wahanui | salut, gaetan_B |
08:15 | rangi | hi gaetan_B, matts and sophie_m |
08:15 | matts | hi ! |
08:15 | sophie_m | hi rangi, hi #koha |
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08:25 | rangi | hi paul_p |
08:25 | paul_p | hi rangi |
08:27 | seems lds should come to NZ to understand how TZ work between NZ & Europe :D :D | |
08:27 | ( or :\ :\, as you want...) | |
08:28 | rangi | :) |
08:28 | nothing bad happened :) | |
08:28 | and the ttl is low now, so i can do it again | |
08:28 | and it will cutover faster | |
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08:49 | drojf | good morning #koha |
08:52 | rangi | hi drojf |
08:52 | drojf | hi rangi |
08:56 | * liw | peeks in |
08:57 | rangi | hey liw |
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09:05 | lds | rangi |
09:05 | I finished, we can test ? | |
09:11 | rangi | right switching now |
09:12 | what does dig lists.koha-community.org give you ? | |
09:13 | lds | rangi: ping lists.koha-community.org always on 188.165.204.78 |
09:14 | rangi | it will take a while to propogate |
09:14 | givet it 10 mins or so | |
09:14 | lds | rangi: I control in 5/10 mn |
09:15 | rangi | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
09:15 | lists.koha-community.org. 300 IN A 88.190.23.136 | |
09:21 | looks ok? | |
09:21 | * drojf | walks off to the library |
09:21 | lds | rangi: looks ok , |
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09:28 | rangi | cool |
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09:34 | rangi | and mail seems to be fine |
09:35 | just missing the archives? | |
09:50 | lds | rangi: your in Koha-win32 ? |
09:50 | rangi: if yes have you see a post from laurentducosgmail.com with test in subject ? | |
09:51 | rangi | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]rmail/koha-devel/ |
09:51 | i saw my test bug one | |
09:52 | lds | rangi: ok the archive is missing i work to restore the access |
09:52 | rangi | yep saw your win-32 test mail |
09:53 | lds | rangi: strange that I am not receiving that email :D |
09:56 | rangi | you can set in mailman if you want to recieve your own mail or not |
10:02 | lds | rangi: can you post a message ??? |
10:02 | rangi: and see it in your mailbox ? | |
10:03 | rangi | i did one from bugzilla and saw it, but no i have it set to not send me my own messages |
10:06 | you should see mine soon | |
10:08 | lds | rangi: yes |
10:17 | ok | |
10:18 | wizzyrea | @later tell oleonard http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]be-ice-trays.html *giggle* |
10:18 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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10:33 | lds | rangi: ok for pipermail http://lists.koha-community.or[…]rmail/koha-devel/ |
10:35 | rangi: this is a problem if i crypt the http transactions ( redirect http -> https ) ? | |
10:38 | rangi | sshouldnt be |
10:53 | lds | rangi: ok |
10:56 | * rangi | goes to bed |
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12:01 | * drojf | watches the tumbleweed |
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12:20 | lds | rangi:good night :-) |
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12:36 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8872: Changes for intranet showmarc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8d79e1c4d4545bad0> / Bug 8872: Changes for opac-showmarc <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a45250d0ecde350b4> / Bug 8872 Add UTF-8 encoding to opac xslt files <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]639aa9d87092190d6 |
12:42 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #932 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
12:45 | drojf | is the control number/ record identifier (MARC field 001) somewhere in sql (besides in the marc/marcxml somewhere)? |
12:51 | jcamins_away | No. |
12:52 | drojf | d'oh |
12:53 | jcamins | What are you trying to do? |
12:54 | drojf | colleague would like to have a cataloguing plugin for 001 that automatically inserts the next number |
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12:56 | jcamins | Ah. |
12:56 | drojf | i thought i'd just take the field (that doesn't exist), check for the highest value and add 1 |
12:56 | jcamins | I suggest a plugin that sets the 001 to match the biblionumber. |
12:58 | drojf | good idea but not compatible to the format we're using |
12:58 | jcamins | Darn. |
12:59 | drojf | i think we have year (4 digits) plus 5 digits to count or something like that. |
13:00 | jcamins | Yeah, you'll need to write a new one. |
13:04 | It's definitely morning. | |
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13:05 | drojf | not sure if doing a GetMarcControlnumber on each biblio every time someone wants to catalogue a new biblio is nice performance-wise |
13:05 | why is it definitely morning? | |
13:05 | jcamins | The cat wants breakfast. |
13:06 | drojf | lol |
13:06 | i would like breakfast too, and its afternoon here | |
13:06 | i'm not a cat though | |
13:07 | jcamins | You'll need a new plugin, I think. |
13:07 | You could base it on BibLibre's am123 barcode plugin. | |
13:09 | tcohen | hi #koha |
13:09 | libsysguy, have you've been working on the calendar code? | |
13:10 | libsysguy | not at all |
13:11 | drojf | jcamins: stocknumberam123.pl ? i'll have a look, thanks |
13:11 | jcamins | That's the one. |
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13:19 | mveron | Hi #koha |
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13:20 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
13:26 | drojf | hi mveron and oleonard |
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13:50 | libsysguy | jcamins http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/06/04/recorder.html |
13:51 | I thought I was going to have to write this myself | |
13:51 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #932: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/932/ |
13:51 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Add UTF-8 encoding to intranet xslt files | |
13:51 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872 Add UTF-8 encoding to opac xslt files | |
13:51 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Changes for opac-showmarc | |
13:51 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Changes for intranet showmarc | |
13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8872 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improve encoding for xslt files, showmarc and opac-showmarc |
13:51 | jcamins | libsysguy: that's the link I shared with you... |
13:53 | libsysguy | well, in that case http://myspace.roflposters.com[…]1221422916227.jpg.[roflposters.com].myspace.jpg |
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13:57 | mib_e4hd8b | hi |
13:57 | wahanui | hola, mib_e4hd8b |
13:59 | mib_e4hd8b | have any koha administration book |
13:59 | jcamins | manual? |
13:59 | wahanui | manual is, like, at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
14:00 | jcamins | ^^ the manual is the best source for Koha documentation |
14:00 | mib_e4hd8b | iam it man work tohandle koha |
14:01 | i need technical document | |
14:01 | oleonard | That link has what you need mib_e4hd8b. If you still have questions after reading that, you can ask here or on the mailing list |
14:01 | drojf | of what technical part? |
14:02 | mib_e4hd8b | i ask to how to change koha layout |
14:02 | jcamins | oleonard's blog? |
14:02 | wahanui | i guess oleonard's blog is http://www.myacpl.org/koha |
14:03 | mib_e4hd8b | in opac |
14:03 | jcamins | ^^ that's a good site for examples of how to customize the OPAC |
14:03 | oleonard | Changing the layout isn't very easy, but there are lots of other customization options |
14:07 | drojf | oh you. chasing away people with manuals |
14:09 | * oleonard | waves the manual and shouts "Rawr!" |
14:09 | drojf | lol |
14:09 | he will send you a personal email anyway :P | |
14:14 | oleonard | I haven't posted to my blog in so long it wouldn't be bad to have a good question prompt a post |
14:14 | jcamins | You're just jealous because oleonard and I get all the personal messages. :P |
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14:21 | drojf | true :D |
14:22 | cait | hey drojf :) |
14:22 | drojf | hei cait |
14:22 | you look norwegian :) | |
14:23 | cait | snowed on? :) |
14:38 | oleonard | It is true that it is a known bug that deleted items appear in Koha after an incremental re-index? (see Koha list) |
14:38 | jcamins | No. |
14:39 | oleonard | That's what I thought. |
14:39 | jcamins | It is a known bug that if you refuse to configure the incremental indexing cronjob correctly you'll end up with inconsistent indexes, though. |
14:39 | The "Cannot delete record [looks new]" message was fixed in 3.6. | |
14:40 | Anyone encountering it in 3.8 has their cronjobs set up wrong. | |
14:40 | Well- I haven't tested recent versions of 3.8. But that was true in 3.8.0, certainly. | |
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14:58 | * mveron | found out that Bug 9010 leads to data corruption in table 'quotes' (while editing quotes) |
14:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9010 normal, P5 - low, ---, dubyk, Needs Signoff , Quote of the day: Umlauts do not display correctly |
14:59 | * magnuse | waves from a hotel room in oslo |
15:00 | mveron | @wunder basel |
15:00 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 7.6°C (3:53 PM CET on November 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
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15:25 | oleonard | Quiet in here today. |
15:27 | drojf | did the new google group finally come into existence? |
15:28 | jcamins | lol |
15:41 | cait | lol |
15:42 | cait left #koha | |
15:42 | cait joined #koha | |
15:42 | jcamins | Alas, cait is leaving to join the Google Group instead of hanging out on #koha. |
15:47 | oleonard | khall around? |
15:47 | khall | yo |
15:48 | oleonard | In your comment on Bug 8955 you say "The renewal and checkout limits do not have any 'back' buttons" |
15:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8955 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Self checkout should degrade gracefully with JavaScript turned off |
15:48 | oleonard | What do you mean by that? |
15:49 | When I scan the barcode of something which cannot be renewed I get a message which includes a "return to account summary" button | |
15:53 | I do see what you mean about the checkout limit message | |
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16:00 | chris_n | imagine that: a bug in the fines logic |
16:00 | jcamins | :-O |
16:00 | chris_n | take a look at these two lines: |
16:01 | BarcodeChecked out fromRenewedCheckout onDue dateCheckin on | |
16:01 | FCA10104809 FCA Yes, last on: 10/24/2012 00:00 10/24/2012 14:01 11/01/2012 00:00 11/01/2012 13:28 | |
16:01 | FCA11030683 FCA No 10/24/2012 14:06 10/31/2012 23:59 11/01/2012 13:28 | |
16:01 | hmm | |
16:01 | these books where checked out within minutes of each other | |
16:02 | but the due date calculation resulted in one book having 24 hours longer before being fined | |
16:02 | * chris_n | apologizes for the messed up columns |
16:02 | jcamins | That's one minute later. |
16:03 | Which, I suppose, is the bug. | |
16:03 | Ooh. | |
16:03 | Grace period doesn't handle hours. | |
16:03 | I see. | |
16:05 | chris_n | phone |
16:06 | it just so happens that in the K-12 academy each class goes as a group to checkin/out books | |
16:07 | this class goes very near noon | |
16:07 | so when half the class gets fined and half does not, it makes for a few complaints | |
16:07 | :) | |
16:07 | jcamins | I don't understand the significance of noon. |
16:07 | Unless you give a half-day grace period. | |
16:07 | Which'd be weird. | |
16:08 | chris_n | unless the due date is calculated incorrectly |
16:09 | grace period is 0 | |
16:10 | loan period is 7 | |
16:10 | fine charge interval is 1 | |
16:11 | must be something screwy in the calculation | |
16:12 | reiveune | bye |
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16:12 | chris_n | so an item checked out on 10/24 should be due on 10/31 or 11/1? |
16:13 | I would think 10/24 + 7 = 10/31 | |
16:13 | I suppose that 11/1 0000 is the same thing though | |
16:14 | jcamins | Yes. |
16:14 | chris_n | so the question is why was the other item (checked out on the same day just 5 min later) set to be due 10/31 23:59 |
16:15 | ? | |
16:15 | jcamins | No, the question is why one is due 11/1/12 00:00. |
16:15 | It should be 23:59 on the seventh day. | |
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16:15 | chris_n | right |
16:16 | I guess I'll just have to dig into the code and see what's going on | |
16:17 | * chris_n | 's schedule is bug driven |
16:21 | chris_n | ok, I have the answer |
16:21 | it's in two parts | |
16:22 | 1. The academy librarian was setting manual due dates for 11/1/12 because the library was closed on 10/31/12 due to a field trip; she failed to set the due date for some items which explains the difference in due date | |
16:23 | jcamins | Ah. |
16:23 | chris_n | 2. Manually setting the due date results in a time of 0000; this is probably a small bug as it should be set to 11:59 |
16:24 | koha hacks must also be detectives | |
16:24 | jcamins | Seems like a kind of big bug, actually. |
16:24 | chris_n | it should be "easy" to fix though |
16:35 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
16:35 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #96: "< owen> If your vendor calls it KOHA you know it's not really Koha." (added by wasabi at 05:56 AM, October 08, 2010) |
16:39 | Oak | night |
16:41 | * chris_n | debugs over a southwestern salad |
16:41 | chris_n | heya gmcharlt |
16:41 | wahanui | i heard gmcharlt was an expert in all things library technology. |
16:41 | gmcharlt | chris_n: howdy |
16:51 | tcohen | # Failed test 'Add 7 days (Days)' |
16:51 | # at t/Calendar.t line 176. | |
16:51 | # got: '2012-07-30T11:53:00' | |
16:51 | # expected: '2012-07-30T11:53:00' | |
16:51 | WTF! | |
16:56 | bag | nice facebook post gmcharlt - made me laugh |
16:57 | tcohen | is there a way to use dt_from_string to return a date with a specific time? |
16:57 | gmcharlt | bag: thanks! |
16:58 | chris_n | tcohen: I am looking that very thing |
16:59 | tcohen | thanks chris_n |
17:00 | chris_n | circulation.pl passes in only a date, no time for manually set due dates; as a result the time is set to 00:00 rather than 11:39 |
17:01 | tcohen | i'm revisiting the tests for calendar, we tested using $dt->ymd hence didn't catch that |
17:01 | chris_n | since a call is made to dt_from_string, being able to pass in a time value is necessary |
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17:04 | tcohen | you'll need to use DateTime->new I guess |
17:04 | (supplying the needed parameters) | |
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17:11 | tcohen | chris_n, do u know where that 11:53 comes from? |
17:12 | chris_n | actually passing in 11/07/2012 23:39:00 works fine |
17:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #9 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
17:12 | jcamins_away | tcohen: yes, that's exactly 7 days after when you ran the script. |
17:12 | jcamins | Except that it says 7/30. |
17:12 | Never mind. | |
17:12 | It is the exact time you ran the script? | |
17:12 | tcohen | yes, and its 14:12 here :-D |
17:12 | chris_n | so much for local |
17:13 | tcohen | the date is hardcoded in the Calendar.t file |
17:13 | jcamins | Oh, in that case it's the time the author ran it? :P |
17:14 | tcohen | :S |
17:14 | i should stop smoking that stuff at work :-P | |
17:15 | chris_n: does dt_from_string('11/07/2012 23:39:00') work? | |
17:16 | gaetan_B | bye |
17:16 | jcamins | I thought that I was making enough saag for several meals. |
17:17 | chris_n | tcohen: trying that now |
17:18 | the underlying call to DateTime does | |
17:18 | tcohen | i doesn't work |
17:18 | dt_from_string('2012-07-30 11:53:00') does | |
17:20 | jcamins, is it possible that is() expect an its parameters to be the same object? | |
17:20 | chris_n | tcohen: |
17:20 | cnighswongercnighswonger-dt:~$ perl -MDateTime::Format::DateParse -e 'print DateTime::Format::DateParse->parse_datetime("11/07/2012 23:39:00")."\n";' | |
17:20 | 2012-11-07T23:39:00 | |
17:20 | so it must be a dt_from_string problem | |
17:20 | jcamins | tcohen: it depends. |
17:20 | Strings have to be identical. | |
17:21 | References have to be the same object. | |
17:21 | tcohen | still getting this weird test fail |
17:21 | # got: '2012-07-30T11:53:00' | |
17:21 | # expected: '2012-07-30T11:53:00' | |
17:22 | chris_n | dt_from_string looks like it may not handle formats it does not know about well |
17:24 | tcohen | damn jcamins, cmp_ok() works where is() doesn't |
17:24 | jcamins | In that case it's a reference, and bug. |
17:24 | libsysguy | perhaps we should just be using InflateColumn for datetimes :) |
17:25 | tcohen | its a DateTime, so is a reference |
17:25 | u mean a bug in is()? | |
17:26 | jcamins | No, a bug in our test. |
17:26 | It should use cmp_ok | |
17:26 | tcohen | when comparing references, cmp_ok should be used then? |
17:27 | jcamins | Usually. |
17:27 | I don't know of any time it shouldn't, but I'm sure there are times. | |
17:30 | tcohen | i thought cmp_ok and is where almost the same |
17:30 | cmp_ok just provided a way to force and equallity operator | |
17:31 | chris_n | tcohen: rootbiblios:/usr/share/koha/lib/Koha# perl -MKoha::DateUtils -e 'print dt_from_string("11/07/2012 23:39:00")."\n"' |
17:31 | 2012-11-07T23:39:00 | |
17:31 | works fine here | |
17:32 | tcohen | here too, i'm having troubles with using is() instead of cmp_ok() for DateTime comparisson |
17:34 | chris_n | jcamins: so the question re manual due date is do I: 1. make a quick and dirty fix by concating 11:39:00 to the end of $duedatespec in circulation.pl or 2. do something else which I know not atm |
17:34 | jcamins | chris_n: I'd prefer 11:59:00, and I think that's the best you can do if there's no hour specified. |
17:35 | chris_n | heh |
17:35 | jcamins | libsysguy will be adding in library closing time information. |
17:35 | * chris_n | too |
17:35 | * libsysguy | is still trying to figure out how to do overdues with that closure info |
17:35 | chris_n | yes, we could reference that |
17:35 | libsysguy | if you have an hourly item that is overdue but you are closed…are you still charged? |
17:36 | chris_n | I would think that once the due date has a valid timestamp the overdue script takes care of the rest? |
17:36 | we charge for reference books by the hour including hours we are closed | |
17:36 | not too many patrons get caught in that one, though | |
17:37 | libsysguy | yeah I figured it was a special case |
17:37 | but perhaps one that should be addressed as a usecase | |
17:37 | chris_n | so I'll concat it for now and add a FIXME referencing the library closing time thoughts |
17:37 | * libsysguy | wants more defined use cases for Koha |
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17:38 | chris_n | jcamins: do package upgrades overwrite all existing files? |
17:39 | jcamins | chris_n: yes, except for files in /etc if you have changed them. |
17:39 | There is a corollary here: | |
17:39 | DON'T MODIFY CODE ON A PRODUCTION SERVER | |
17:40 | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
17:40 | Darn. Two exclamation marks too few. | |
17:47 | tcohen | ok, read the docs for cmp_ok :-D |
17:47 | cmp_ok + 'eq' + '2012-07-30T11:53:00' format should do it | |
17:48 | the DateTime object will be treated as a string in that format | |
17:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #9: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/9/ |
17:54 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Add UTF-8 encoding to intranet xslt files | |
17:54 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872 Add UTF-8 encoding to opac xslt files | |
17:54 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Changes for opac-showmarc | |
17:54 | * m.de.rooy: Bug 8872: Changes for intranet showmarc | |
17:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8872 minor, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Improve encoding for xslt files, showmarc and opac-showmarc |
18:02 | tcohen | leaving, byeee |
18:05 | chris_n | jcamins: somewhere along the line I missed that rule |
18:06 | does that disqualify me? ;-) | |
18:08 | jcamins | chris_n: no, it just means you're going to suffer. |
18:08 | :P | |
18:12 | chris_n | :-) |
18:12 | as long as I have plenty of mint chocolate brownies I'll be fine | |
18:13 | * oleonard | wants in on those! |
18:13 | chris_n | btw: I made some blueberry carrot juice the other day and then took the pulp and made wheat muffins out of it |
18:13 | fantastic | |
18:17 | jcamins | Mint chocolate brownies? |
18:17 | I like that idea. | |
18:17 | The muffins are also a good idea, but slightly less entrancing. | |
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18:38 | rangi | Morning |
18:38 | wahanui | well, Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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18:41 | * cait | waves |
18:41 | jcamins | Morning. |
18:41 | wahanui | it has been said that morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
18:45 | rangi | Nz open source awards tonight |
18:46 | Fingers crossed for the central agencies and Koha | |
18:47 | jcamins | :) |
18:48 | rangi | Some election thing too eh? |
18:48 | jcamins | lol |
18:48 | Yeah. | |
18:49 | tcohen | :-D |
18:49 | cait | rangi: oh Koha too? |
18:50 | had only seen totara and open source academy | |
18:50 | rangi | Koha too |
18:50 | cait | nice! |
18:50 | in which category? | |
18:50 | rangi | Well the Central agencies implementation of it |
18:50 | Open source in govt | |
18:51 | Central agencies are 3 govt depts | |
18:51 | Treasury, State services commission and department of prime minister and cabinet | |
18:52 | cait | oh cool |
18:52 | rangi | And they built a union catalogue |
18:56 | More functionality for lots less money | |
18:56 | That's what you want govt to do with IT :) | |
18:58 | cait | awesome :) |
19:00 | rangi | Bbiab |
19:01 | * magnuse | waves |
19:02 | cait | hi magnuse |
19:02 | hows things? :) | |
19:04 | magnuse | cait: good! :-) |
19:04 | cait | :) |
19:04 | the floor in my bathroom is almost too hot to walk on | |
19:04 | which is... nice in a strange way I guess :) | |
19:04 | magnuse | hehe |
19:05 | sounds a bit weird though | |
19:05 | meeting in ~7 hours? | |
19:06 | cait | oh right |
19:06 | seems so | |
19:07 | magnuse | not that i will be attending or anything |
19:07 | cait | sleep++ |
19:09 | oleonard | Shoot, another meeting with no announcement on the list. I'll send one if no one else is doing it |
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19:10 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
19:10 | kathryn | hiya cait :) |
19:10 | and all! | |
19:10 | rangi | back |
19:10 | thanks oleonard | |
19:13 | jcamins | Wait, how can there be a meeting in 7 hours? |
19:14 | @time utc | |
19:14 | huginn | jcamins: I suck |
19:14 | rangi | 02:00 utc |
19:14 | oleonard | Because every so often we have to have a meeting at a time when no one can come :P |
19:14 | magnuse | how can there not be? :-) |
19:15 | jcamins | 7 hours isn't too late for me to attend, though. |
19:15 | rangi | all the nzers can come, its the best time for me |
19:15 | jcamins | I guess that's thanks to the end of DST. |
19:15 | rangi | i have 8 hours |
19:15 | ish | |
19:15 | oh no | |
19:15 | you are right | |
19:15 | 7 | |
19:16 | oleonard | Anyone know if Kohacon13 is on the agenda because someone is planning to talk about it? |
19:16 | * jcamins | does not. |
19:16 | rangi | not sure |
19:16 | but id love to hear about it | |
19:17 | oleonard | magnuse, do you know? |
19:18 | rangi | i think if no one talks about it |
19:18 | i will | |
19:18 | magnuse | hm, i might have put it there because it was on the last agenda |
19:18 | rangi | and propose an action point that we mail to find out |
19:18 | magnuse | and i'd like to hear about it :-) |
19:18 | rangi | any updates/news |
19:19 | magnuse | yeah, i think we should kind of not be forgetting about it |
19:21 | rangi | yep |
19:25 | sooner we know dates the more likely it is people can attend | |
19:26 | * magnuse | really really hopes not to miss out on this one too |
19:27 | rangi | *nod* |
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19:34 | rambutan | @meeting |
19:34 | huginn | rambutan: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
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19:35 | magnuse | @arewethereyet |
19:35 | huginn | magnuse: Not yet - wait 16 days |
19:35 | magnuse | ooh |
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20:05 | oleonard | If I edited a script that included SQL and added more SQL would I get yelled at for not putting it in pm? |
20:05 | jcamins | oleonard: depends. |
20:06 | Are you just editing an existing query? | |
20:06 | If so, go ahead. | |
20:06 | If it's adding new functionality, yes, there will be yelling. | |
20:06 | * oleonard | grumbles |
20:11 | magnuse | use dbic and avoid writing sql :-) |
20:12 | jcamins | And put the DBIC stuff in Koha::. |
20:13 | * oleonard | should just go back to finger-painting with CSS |
20:15 | magnuse | lol |
20:19 | chris_n | jcamins: with butter and honey the muffins were a strong rival to the brownies |
20:19 | jcamins | chris_n: I would've been more impressed had chocolate been involved... |
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20:20 | chris_n | chocolate + blueberries + carrots.... |
20:20 | * chris_n | thinks on it |
20:21 | jcamins | Yeah, that's why the brownies won in my esteem. |
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20:21 | chris_n | the kids wanted me to run some chocolate chip cookies through the juicer hoping to create a drinkable cookie :) |
20:22 | mtj | hey jcamins , shall we wack your git-bz up on gitweb.kc.org ? |
20:22 | jcamins | mtj: that sounds like a good idea. |
20:22 | oleonard | chris_n: That's why we have chewing |
20:23 | mtj | cool… under ./contribs, or a new top-level repo? |
20:24 | rambutan | chris_n:; need to add a bit of sugar-free Almond milk |
20:24 | jcamins | gmcharlt: do you think you could create two new repos on git.k-c.org? git-bz for the Koha git-bz client, and a koha-archive for old topic branches? |
20:25 | rangi | i can do both of those |
20:25 | gmcharlt | jcamins: what keys would be accessing them? |
20:25 | rangi | oh cool gmcharlt is here |
20:25 | he can do it :) | |
20:25 | jcamins | gmcharlt: mine for koha-archive, and... mine for git-bz too, I guess. |
20:26 | rangi | can you put mine in git-bz too please |
20:26 | and maybe the archive | |
20:26 | mtj maybe for git-bz too? | |
20:26 | chris_n | oleonard: yeah, but we all know one can drink more cookies than one can chew |
20:27 | mtj | haaay galen :) |
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20:28 | gmcharlt | repos created, now adding user access |
20:29 | OK, done | |
20:30 | koha-archive = jcamins, rangi, gmcharlt | |
20:30 | rangi | thanks |
20:30 | gmcharlt | koha-bz = jcamins, rangi, gmcharlt, mtj |
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20:31 | jcamins | Thanks! |
20:31 | magnuse | gmcharlt++ |
20:31 | jransom | Morning all |
20:31 | jcamins | I'll push git-bz. |
20:31 | magnuse | kia ora jransom! |
20:31 | jransom | Heya Magnus :) |
20:32 | I'm just showing our new Digital Services Lead the Koha community tools | |
20:32 | Joann Dillon: JD | |
20:32 | oleonard | Hi Joann |
20:33 | mtj | hi jransom, and thanks gmcharlt |
20:33 | magnuse | hiya and welcome to the community Joann Dillon! |
20:33 | * mtj | waves to joann |
20:33 | rangi | hiya Joann number 2 |
20:33 | jransom | (she has expereince with Symphony / Kotui - can't wait to get her hands on Koha :) |
20:33 | Heya Owen | |
20:33 | Thanks everyone, JD | |
20:34 | * magnuse | is presenting koha to 20 norwegian librarians tomorrow, at the first ever "get to know koha" day in norway :-) |
20:34 | jcamins | Hooray! |
20:34 | jransom | Prefer to be called JD |
20:34 | Fantastic Magnus!! | |
20:34 | magnuse | yay :-) |
20:35 | * cait | waves |
20:35 | rambutan | JD working w/ DSpace or Kete perhaps? |
20:35 | jransom | waving back |
20:35 | jcamins | gmcharlt: what should the remote look like for git-bz? |
20:35 | jransom | JD is up for anything :) |
20:36 | Going down to Wgtn to work with @ranganui and @wizzyrea next week | |
20:37 | magnuse | ooh, lucky JD! |
20:37 | jcamins | gmcharlt: actually, did you give me read access or just write access on git-bz? |
20:38 | I just realized maybe the access denied message was coming from the remote and not my server. | |
20:38 | gmcharlt | jcamins: read/write |
20:39 | jcamins: bah, I had called it koha-bz | |
20:40 | jcamins | Oh, that's fine. |
20:40 | * jcamins | can't read. |
20:40 | cjh | magnuse++ |
20:40 | jcamins | Yeah, now it works. |
20:40 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I've changed it to koha-bz |
20:40 | jcamins | Thanks. |
20:40 | gmcharlt | er, git-ba |
20:40 | jcamins | Oh. |
20:40 | gmcharlt | CAN"T TYPE |
20:40 | jcamins | Okay, now it's git-bz. |
20:40 | gmcharlt | git-bz |
20:40 | jcamins | :) |
20:41 | Now it's working _and_ called what we both expect. | |
20:41 | magnuse | yay! we get there in the end... :-) |
20:45 | rangi | while you are here :) |
20:45 | can you add a link to | |
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20:45 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-3.10.x/ |
20:46 | jcamins | Okay, pushed git-bz. |
20:47 | rangi | jransom: JD, the first thing I would suggest you do, is get a real IRC client, mibbit will get really annoying really fast :) |
20:47 | also there is a meeting on irc at 3pm today if you would like to participate you are more than welcome | |
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20:50 | jcamins | mtj: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]-bz.git;a=summary |
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20:53 | jcamins | I added a README to git-bz while I was at it. |
20:58 | oleonard | If you want to send a patch using git-bz on a branch which has 2 commits, but you just want the last one, do you say "git bz attach -e 1234 [previous commit id]" ? |
20:59 | jcamins | git-bz attach -e HEAD |
20:59 | mtj | yeah, or HEAD~9 for the last 10, etc... |
21:00 | oleonard | Won't that attach patches for both commits, rather than just the latest one? |
21:00 | jcamins | No. |
21:00 | oleonard | Okay |
21:00 | jcamins | You have to identify the commit you want to attach. |
21:00 | HEAD is just the HEAD commit. | |
21:00 | You're probably thinking of origin/master..HEAD, which I never use because it never seems to work. | |
21:02 | mtj | oleonard, git-bz attach -e HEAD~1, would push the last 2 commits |
21:05 | jcamins, what about a new '--signoff-qa' arg for git-bz ? | |
21:05 | that could be handy? | |
21:06 | jcamins | mtj: I added one. |
21:07 | See README | |
21:07 | oleonard | See you in a few hours #koha |
21:07 | rangi | cya oleonard |
21:08 | go vote 4001012 times | |
21:08 | too late | |
21:08 | i think you are allowed to do that in ohio | |
21:08 | mtj | hmm, i cant see that feature in the repo |
21:08 | (i did look for it :/ ) | |
21:09 | any stats yet on the US votes, on teh webz? | |
21:09 | jcamins | Second-to-last commit. |
21:10 | rangi | not yet |
21:11 | mtj | jcamins, sorry - i meant 'Passed-QA-by:' lines , not 'Signed-off-by:' lines |
21:11 | rangi | those are only there |
21:12 | cos ppl are lazy and didnt sign off | |
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21:12 | rangi | its better to use Signed-Off |
21:12 | that means something to get | |
21:12 | git | |
21:12 | even | |
21:12 | the other is just text | |
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21:13 | rangi | we dont really want passed-qa-by |
21:13 | but its better than having nothing at all | |
21:13 | mtj | ok, im playing catch-up here… i though jared was suggesting making 'passed-qa' lines a requirement |
21:13 | rangi | id like making signed off a requirement |
21:13 | jcamins | No. |
21:13 | rangi | then we know ppl actually applied the patch at the very least |
21:13 | mtj | yep, i got it now :) |
21:13 | jcamins | I'm adding Passed-QA-by during the 3.10 cycle. |
21:14 | We'll do signoffs for 3.12. | |
21:15 | rangi | that way ppl actually get the credit in the release notes etc |
21:16 | mtj | yep, gotcha |
21:22 | jcamins | I pushed a new branch to git.k-c.org/git-bz. |
21:23 | It is called fishsoup and contains our patches rebased against the upstream repo. | |
21:27 | rambutan | mtj: I don't think there will be any firm data on the US elections coming in until about the time the koha chat meeting starts. Some of the eastern states will start reporting about then. |
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21:28 | rambutan | here's a pretty good chart: http://www.270towin.com/closing.php |
21:30 | rickx | Good afternoon someone can help me with Making Z39.50 Target Public |
21:32 | eythian | hello #koha |
21:33 | jcamins | Woohoo! 9001 passed QA! |
21:33 | rickx: what problem are you having? | |
21:33 | mtj | thanks for the info rambutan |
21:33 | eythian | jcamins: so I solved that AACR1/2 issue by giving them the options to a) leave as is, or b) fix according to what you said. They picked a) :) |
21:34 | mtj | rickx -> http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_a_Z39.50_server |
21:35 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]ember/021751.html | |
21:35 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]1-May/029029.html | |
21:36 | rickx | I did this http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#publicztarget |
21:36 | mtj | yep, and? |
21:38 | rickx | not know how to show it works |
21:38 | mtj | dpavlinkoha-dev:~$ yaz-client -c /etc/koha/zebradb/ccl.properties localhost:9999/biblios |
21:38 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s_a_Z39.50_server | |
21:38 | rangi | hehe |
21:38 | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories[…]to-move-to-nz.htm | |
21:39 | eythian | http://codesearch.debian.net/ <-- This is cool. Supports regex too. |
21:39 | rangi | ooh cool |
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21:41 | cjh | oh wow, that is awesome |
21:41 | debian++ | |
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21:45 | mtj | tres fast! |
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21:51 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 9001: Remove Zebraqueue_daemon <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a4daef3a53b427c6> |
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21:51 | mib_uxn2ew | Hello |
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21:52 | mib_uxn2ew | I'm working to install Koha on my machine. |
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21:52 | mib_uxn2ew | I would like to configure the back-end an the OPAC to use SSL. |
21:52 | rangi | yep |
21:53 | jcamins | mib_uxn2ew: it's just a matter of setting up Apache to use SSL. |
21:53 | rangi | you just do that, as you would for any virtual host in apache |
21:53 | jcamins | Koha doesn't do anything special for SSL. |
21:53 | mib_uxn2ew | The OPAC and the back-end are both configured to use the same host name. I think all I have to do is get one certificate and use 2 different ports? |
21:53 | One for OPAC SSL and the other for back-end SSL. | |
21:53 | jcamins | Or a wildcard certificate with different subdomains. |
21:54 | rangi | id do that |
21:54 | jcamins | rangi: which? |
21:54 | rangi | because different ports will confuse ppl |
21:54 | https:// is gonna expect 443 | |
21:55 | mib_uxn2ew | Since it's a small installation just for me and few other's I'm not really worried. |
21:55 | jcamins | In that case either will work fine. |
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21:57 | mib_uxn2ew | I'm using the guide located at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze . Is this a good guide to follow? |
21:57 | jcamins | That's the best guide. |
21:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #933 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
21:58 | mib_uxn2ew | Okay great. I'll start following the steps. |
22:00 | Looks like the installation of packages went well. | |
22:04 | Okay my instance has been created. | |
22:05 | Should I copy http://mibpaste.com/1zEjCN and change the ports and add SSL directives? | |
22:06 | jcamins | Exactly. |
22:07 | Except... | |
22:07 | What's with the ServerName SERVERNAME? | |
22:07 | mib_uxn2ew | I did that to hide the actual server name |
22:07 | jcamins | Oh, okay. |
22:07 | So the server name is there. | |
22:07 | mib_uxn2ew | Yup. |
22:07 | jcamins | Then, yes, just adjust that for HTTPS, after backing it up. |
22:08 | mib_uxn2ew | Okay. |
22:14 | Okay I think this is what it should be: http://mibpaste.com/UPE49U . | |
22:15 | jcamins | That looks like it might be right. |
22:15 | Don't forget to enable SSL. | |
22:15 | That step trips up a lot of people. | |
22:16 | Then you have to stop and start Apache. | |
22:16 | That also trips up a lot of people. | |
22:16 | mib_uxn2ew | Yes, I did forget. But I just enabled SSL. |
22:16 | Looks like Apache is running. | |
22:17 | Now to setup my installation I should browse to https://hostname:8443? | |
22:17 | jcamins | Yes, you have to _stop_ Apache, then start it up. |
22:17 | And you'll need to add a Listen directive for port 8443. | |
22:18 | mib_uxn2ew | I think all I have to add is Listen 8443 to the virtual host. |
22:20 | Listen can not occur within the virtual host section... | |
22:20 | rangi | put it in ports.conf |
22:21 | mib_uxn2ew | That worked! |
22:21 | I think I can test it now. | |
22:22 | "Welcome to the Koha web installer" | |
22:24 | I was able to login, now I'm running the installer. | |
22:24 | eythian | that's a good sign really :) |
22:25 | mib_uxn2ew | I'm at "Select your MARC flavor". Should I choose Marc21 or Unimarc? I'm guessing Marc21 is the best option? |
22:26 | eythian | it depends where you are |
22:26 | and what cataloguing standards you want | |
22:26 | mib_uxn2ew | U.S. |
22:26 | eythian | then marc21 |
22:26 | mib_uxn2ew | IOkay. |
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22:29 | mib_uxn2ew | Installer is complete now I'm in the backend. |
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22:33 | mib_uxn2ew | I guess the next step is to work on securing Apache. I'm running the installation on a 1GB of RAM VPS. Since it's going to available to the public internet. |
22:33 | Any suggestions for securing the install? | |
22:35 | Does Koha work well with Mod Security? | |
22:36 | eythian | I don't think I've even tried that |
22:37 | mib_uxn2ew | I've never does much with Mod Security either. I'm just looking for ways to make sure the server is secure. |
22:39 | eythian | the packages run Koha with reduced privileges which helps a bit. |
22:39 | mib_uxn2ew | Obviously I have a firewall running. I have disabled the Apache ServerSignature and set ServerToken to Prod. |
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23:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #933: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/933/ |
23:06 | tomascohen: Bug 9001: Remove Zebraqueue_daemon | |
23:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9001 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , zebraqueue_daemon is deprecated and must go |
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23:22 | bag | rangi @wunder 93109 |
23:22 | @wunder 93109 | |
23:22 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Santa Barbra CA US, Santa Barbara, California is 21.1°C (2:45 PM PST on November 06, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 25%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
23:22 | bag | hmmm whatcha you got? |
23:24 | rangi | lots colder than that |
23:24 | @wunder nzwn | |
23:24 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (12:00 PM NZDT on November 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady). |
23:25 | bag | isn't it summer there? |
23:25 | rangi | spring |
23:26 | bag | I thought you'd be getting close by now |
23:26 | rangi | jan/feb are the warmest months |
23:27 | december is ok .. some years | |
23:27 | bag | ok sorry for being 3 months early :) |
23:27 | rangi | hehe :) |
23:27 | bag | will try again in the future :) |
23:27 | oh maybe I am secretly rubbing it in ;) | |
23:28 | yup bag-- ;) | |
23:28 | huginn | bag: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma. |
23:28 | cjh | heh |
23:32 | nexus6 joined #koha | |
23:33 | lds | rangi: hello |
23:33 | wahanui | hi, lds |
23:33 | rangi | hi lds you are up late |
23:34 | just saw your test message | |
23:34 | lds | rangi: bad mail serveur migration |
23:34 | rangi | ah :( |
23:34 | the lists one looks to have been working fine | |
23:34 | i can see archives and lots of mail | |
23:34 | lds | rangi: i'm not lucky this night |
23:34 | rangi | was it another server that went bad? |
23:34 | lds | rangi: yep |
23:35 | rangi | ahh long long day for you |
23:35 | lds | rangi: the lists working fine, its good ;-) |
23:46 | JesseM | has anyone come across the same issues as in bug 8972? |
23:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8972 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Due Date set to 100 years ago. |
23:47 | rangi | nope |
23:47 | but then people use the datepicker vs typing in the date most times | |
23:47 | i think the only thing to do is either stop them typing in the date | |
23:47 | make them use the calendar popup | |
23:47 | or refuse to accept 2 digit dates as input | |
23:48 | JesseM | right that makes sense |
23:48 | rangi | we cant know what 12 they mean |
23:48 | * jcamins | votes we accept those as valid dates. |
23:49 | rangi | ? |
23:49 | jcamins | "But codexes weren't even invented when this book was due!" |
23:49 | rangi | 2112 |
23:49 | 2212 | |
23:49 | jcamins | No. |
23:49 | 12. | |
23:49 | rangi | and what do we do |
23:49 | assume it means 2012 | |
23:50 | jcamins | That's silly. |
23:50 | It means 12. | |
23:50 | Not 2012. | |
23:50 | Not 1912. | |
23:50 | rangi | ah right |
23:50 | jcamins | Not 2112. |
23:50 | rangi | yeah 2 digit years are just wrong, make it be 4 |
23:50 | is probably the only fix | |
23:50 | jcamins | Agreed. |
23:50 | rangi | if you really want 12 you can put 0012 |
23:50 | :) |
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