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| 01:08 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c105d84aaa60f493> |
| 01:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #930 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:19 | cait | @wunder oslo |
| 01:19 | huginn | cait: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 01:19 | eythian | probably needs more ø |
| 01:20 | cait | yeah, Ithink so |
| 01:20 | maybe | |
| 01:20 | @wunder Oslo, Norway | |
| 01:20 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Holter, Holter, Norway is 2.2°C (2:17 AM CET on November 05, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.53 in 1000 hPa (Steady). |
| 01:20 | cait | hm not too bad |
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| 02:16 | mtj | hi #koha , i've a random plack Q... |
| 02:17 | does anyone have a intra.psgi file about, for a koha-git setup? | |
| 02:17 | im using the examples from this page -> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Plack | |
| 02:18 | but they are for tarball/package installs only | |
| 02:18 | and i suspect ive got some of my $PATH stuff incorrect... | |
| 02:21 | jcamins_away | mtj: yes. |
| 02:22 | mtj: well, sort of. | |
| 02:22 | Okay, not really. I don't do intranet/opac divides. | |
| 02:22 | They offend me. | |
| 02:22 | mtj | np, just paste it :) |
| 02:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #930: SUCCESS in 1 hr 9 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/930/ |
| 02:22 | Paul Poulain: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl | |
| 02:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8904 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack variable scoping in tools/overduerules |
| 02:22 | jcamins_away | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Starman_and_nginx |
| 02:24 | mtj | cool, looks good |
| 02:32 | jcamins_away | You could probably replace nginx with Apache. |
| 02:39 | mtj | all good, ive poked a little more and got it running :) |
| 02:39 | jcamins_away | There are two problems with that configuration: |
| 02:39 | 1) no error pages | |
| 02:39 | @query starman | |
| 02:39 | huginn | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7172 major, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Omnibus for Plack variable scoping problems |
| 02:39 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8908 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Starman/Plack hangs when faced with zombie Zebra | |
| 02:39 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack | |
| 02:39 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7844 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , plack scripts for developers | |
| 02:39 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack | |
| 02:40 | jcamins_away | 2) bug 8970 |
| 02:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8970 blocker, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , MARC import gives error under Starman/Plack |
| 02:40 | jcamins_away | And 3) bug 9005 is exacerbated by using starman. |
| 02:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9005 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Changing sysprefs requires restart under Plack |
| 02:40 | mtj | the thing that was catching me, was needed to run |
| 02:40 | http://localhost:5001/cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl , and not just ... | |
| 02:40 | http://localhost:5001 , etc... | |
| 02:41 | i didnt click i needed to be explicit :/ | |
| 02:41 | jcamins_away | That's... |
| 02:41 | oh. | |
| 02:41 | Not in the configuration file. | |
| 02:41 | In fact, it's missing a passel of redirects. | |
| 02:42 | Actually, I got it down to one redirect. Never mind. | |
| 02:42 | mtj | yeah… i get a pro setup would have an apache/nginx in front, to fix that |
| 02:42 | jcamins_away | Fixing. |
| 02:43 | mtj | thanks for the help |
| 02:45 | you know what would be a great idea… an 'about Koha/what is Koha' page somewhere on the opac | |
| 02:46 | make it nice and subtle/discreet, so it wont annoy anyone | |
| 02:47 | i really like the idea of curious/bored users clicking on it, and getting an inspirational history lesson | |
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| 03:02 | jcamins_away | @later tell cait Have you ever seen Tanz der Vampire? |
| 03:02 | huginn | jcamins_away: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:22 | jcamins_away | mtj: if you want to QA something that doesn't require Plack, bugs 8915 and 8949 are good. |
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| 04:59 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:59 | magnuse | |
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| 05:10 | vkm | OPAC google transliteration is not working for local languages, is there any option in system preference for that? 3.6.4 is not having any such option? |
| 05:11 | eythian | vkm: you're going to have to provide more information before anyone can help you. |
| 05:11 | first question? | |
| 05:11 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" or "What is the goal?" |
| 05:13 | vkm | OPAC should display indic language option to translate the local language from google translation the option is visible near Cart to select the language, please see example at http://libcat.mysore-univ.org/[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 05:16 | eythian | OK, I see the dropdown besite the cart button, is that the language selector? |
| 05:16 | it seems to be working, at least, based on what you've told us so far. | |
| 05:17 | vkm | yes, if we wright anything in english it automaticaly convert it in concern selected language by google |
| 05:17 | eythian | I assume this is a custom feature, I don't think regular Koha can do this. |
| 05:20 | vkm | ok it may be, the code for this is given at http://lists.koha-community.or[…]tober/032940.html , please sugest after reading |
| 05:22 | eythian | that code is pretty old, I don't think it'll work without some conversion in 3.6. |
| 05:22 | They should have made a bug and attached it to that, otherwise it won't get into Koha. | |
| 05:25 | vkm | ok thx |
| 05:27 | one think can you sugest what are the software required on server machine to send auto email from koha from my gmail account | |
| 05:27 | means gmail account as a system admin account and how to configure it | |
| 05:29 | eythian | I usually postfix, and you configure it through /etc/aliases. |
| 05:30 | I'd recommend reading documentation on that though. | |
| 05:31 | vkm | yes i customisez a lot thing but not able to configure this feature, if you can help better please |
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| 06:29 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 06:29 | magnuse | wizzyrea? |
| 06:29 | wahanui | i think wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
| 06:29 | magnuse | eek! |
| 06:30 | eythian_ | magnuse: you can tell by the knight-rider style red sweeping light. |
| 06:30 | magnuse | yeah, i have seen the first 1,5 seasons :-) |
| 06:36 | wow 1948 hits for koha in lib-web-cats | |
| 06:37 | rangi | nice, thats a jump of about 100 since i last looked |
| 06:38 | ahh all the philipines in there now | |
| 06:38 | found 262 items where the country is Philippines and the library automation system used is koha | |
| 06:39 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:39 | i should get all the norwegian ones in there to | |
| 06:40 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 06:40 | magnuse | kia ora wizzyrea! |
| 06:41 | wizzyrea | kia ora :) |
| 06:41 | rangi | magnuse: yep you should :) |
| 06:41 | hey wizzyrea | |
| 06:41 | wahanui | i heard wizzyrea was a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
| 06:41 | wizzyrea | heya |
| 06:41 | I like science was funny, but being a cylon makes me sound much tougher. | |
| 06:41 | magnuse | yup |
| 06:48 | eythian_ | 'multicast_id' => '5.8395359547812e+18' <-- thanks JSON library |
| 06:55 | wizzyrea | huh. guess george lucas is going to donate the disney proceeds (4 billion US) to education. |
| 06:57 | magnuse | that would be kind of cool? |
| 07:04 | national libraries? | |
| 07:04 | national libraries using koha are Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela | |
| 07:04 | national libraries? | |
| 07:04 | national libraries using koha is Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela | |
| 07:04 | national libraries? | |
| 07:05 | eythian_ | magnuse: not how the grammar works :) |
| 07:05 | rangi | are |
| 07:05 | magnuse | ah |
| 07:05 | national libraries using koha? | |
| 07:05 | wahanui | well, national libraries using koha is Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela |
| 07:05 | eythian_ | yeah, that |
| 07:05 | wahanui | yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 07:05 | magnuse | wahanui: forget national libraries using koha? |
| 07:05 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot national libraries using koha |
| 07:05 | rangi | also cook islands |
| 07:05 | is the nat lib of malawi really using koha? | |
| 07:06 | magnuse | national libraries using koha are Malawi, Philippines and Venezuela and Cook Islands |
| 07:06 | dunno - libwebcats says so | |
| 07:06 | rangi | must be then |
| 07:06 | i knew parliament was | |
| 07:07 | eythian_ | magnuse: fyi, 'are' and 'is' are two different databases |
| 07:07 | magnuse | eythian_: ok? |
| 07:08 | um libwebcats also says this is the website of the national library: http://www.nlsmw.org/ um, that seems kind of strange... | |
| 07:08 | eythian_ | if you say 'something is something' and 'something are something', that's two different things. |
| 07:08 | I don't know how the bot picks which to use when replying though | |
| 07:09 | I can see fireworks from my window | |
| 07:09 | wizzyrea | can you! |
| 07:09 | eythian_ | yep |
| 07:09 | wizzyrea | srs?! |
| 07:09 | sweet :) | |
| 07:09 | * wizzyrea | wonders about HER window |
| 07:09 | eythian_ | not the big ones on the water, that's later I presume, but I can see this side of mt vic |
| 07:09 | rangi | yeah |
| 07:09 | big ones are at 9pm | |
| 07:10 | theres just randoms letting off ones in their backyard at the moment | |
| 07:10 | you'll hear the big ones, even if you dont see them | |
| 07:10 | magnuse | would that be the guy fawkes thing? |
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| 07:10 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 07:10 | eythian_ | jup |
| 07:10 | wizzyrea | i saw some from the front window :) |
| 07:11 | magnuse | ah, i think it's exactly 2 years since i left nz then :-) |
| 07:13 | eythian_ | when are you visiting agin then, everyone else is doing it. And by everyone else I mean wizzyrea. |
| 07:13 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 07:16 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:16 | as soon as possible is all i can say... | |
| 07:16 | when are you hosting kohacon again? ;-) | |
| 07:17 | hm, rememebered that wrong - yesterday was 2 years since i left, but guy fawkes was just around the corner at least | |
| 07:19 | rangi | probably 2015 |
| 07:19 | i figure nz should get every 5 :) | |
| 07:23 | * magnuse | would vote for that! |
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| 07:26 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:26 | wahanui | hi, alex_a |
| 07:32 | rangi | hi alex_a |
| 07:33 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on November 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 0.0°C. Pressure: 29.50 in 999 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:43 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:45 | magnuse | hiya cait and reiveune |
| 07:45 | cait | hi mg |
| 07:45 | hi magnuse | |
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| 07:48 | julian_m | hello |
| 07:54 | rangi | hi julian_m |
| 07:55 | julian_m | hi rangi |
| 07:59 | cait | hi all :) |
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| 08:02 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:02 | lds | hello |
| 08:02 | wahanui | hey, lds |
| 08:11 | cait | @later tell jcamins - yes, twice |
| 08:11 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 08:20 | magnuse | slides? |
| 08:20 | wahanui | kf should be writing slides |
| 08:21 | magnuse | and so should magnuse - for "get to know koha" on wednesday |
| 08:22 | cait | yay! |
| 08:22 | I think I am starting to freak about flying to oslo tomorrow | |
| 08:25 | matts | hi ! |
| 08:25 | cait | hi matts :) |
| 08:25 | how are the cats? | |
| 08:25 | matts | Fine, I guess, I'm in Marseille right now ! |
| 08:26 | magnuse | cait: it'll be fun |
| 08:26 | cait | matts: oh :) |
| 08:26 | magnuse: :) | |
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| 08:39 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:40 | rangi are you here ? | |
| 08:40 | rangi | yep |
| 08:40 | paul_p | rangi = laurent ducos just tell me he has no feedback from his previous mail about DNS changes for lists.koha-community.org . Have you seen his mail ? |
| 08:41 | rangi (do you have the permissions to update DNS) | |
| 08:41 | rangi | yep |
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| 08:41 | rangi | but i doubt ill be able to at 8am as i most likely will be on a bus |
| 08:42 | paul_p | rangi = I don't think it's a problem. When do you think you should be able to update DNS ? |
| 08:43 | (which TZ are you atm ? GMT-10 ?) | |
| 08:43 | rangi | +13 |
| 08:43 | paul_p | OK, so exactly 12hours difference with us |
| 08:44 | rangi = When do you think you should be able to update DNS ? | |
| 08:44 | rangi | i can do it now, or at 9am |
| 08:45 | paul_p | I think 9AM is OK, because it will take some time, so I doubt that should cause a problem. |
| 08:46 | rangi | 3600/60/60 |
| 08:46 | wahanui | 1 |
| 08:47 | cjh | 11/2 |
| 08:47 | :( | |
| 08:47 | rangi | ttl is 1 hour, so if its changed at 9am, it wont be propogated fully until at least 10am |
| 08:48 | paul_p | rangi = lds will switch off the previous mail server before starting so any pending mail will be delivered with some delay, isn't it ? |
| 08:48 | rangi | depends |
| 08:48 | most of it will | |
| 08:48 | but it depends entirely on how peoples mail servers are configured | |
| 08:49 | how many retries they do | |
| 08:49 | before they bounce mail | |
| 08:55 | cait | paul_p: you interpreted the German mail correctly ;) |
| 08:55 | paul_p | hi cait :D |
| 08:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #7 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:58 | cait | paul_p: I will be back properly next week |
| 08:58 | paul_p | cait = yes, I understood that. are you a bot chatting here then ? |
| 08:59 | cait | nope, but my family kept me away from the internets |
| 08:59 | only today I have to prepare my presentation | |
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| 09:00 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 09:00 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 09:02 | marcelr | :) |
| 09:15 | lds | rangi : dns switch at 10 h is ok for you ? |
| 09:15 | rangi | 10am nz time? |
| 09:16 | paul_p | rangi I think lds is saying 10PM for us and 10AM for you |
| 09:17 | rangi | yep can do that |
| 09:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #7: SUCCESS in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/7/ |
| 09:40 | Paul Poulain: Bug 8904: fix Plack scoping for overduerules.pl | |
| 09:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8904 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack variable scoping in tools/overduerules |
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| 10:34 | magnuse | paul_p or someone else from biblibre: did http://catalogue.iepgrenoble.biblibre.com/ move to a new address? |
| 10:35 | paul_p | sophie_m <magnuse> paul_p or someone else from biblibre: did http://catalogue.iepgrenoble.biblibre.com/ move to a new address? |
| 10:36 | lds | paul_p: c'est quoi qui lui fait dire ça |
| 10:36 | sophie_m | not yet, but it is on its way. Why ? |
| 10:36 | magnuse: why do you ask ? | |
| 10:38 | magnuse | sophie_m: i can't get in touch with it |
| 10:39 | my browser just says "connecting..." | |
| 10:40 | sophie_m | magnuse: it's ok for me. We have a look |
| 10:41 | lds | magnuse: please give me your dns server (/etc/resolv.conf) |
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| 12:45 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:59 | lms | hello |
| 12:59 | wahanui | hey, lms |
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| 13:30 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:30 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 13:30 | oleonard | How's the infrastructure today jcamins? |
| 13:32 | jcamins | oleonard: Subway service isn't fully restored, but it's close. |
| 13:35 | cait | oh good |
| 13:35 | jcamins: what was the question about? :) | |
| 13:38 | jcamins | cait: Dance of the Vampires in English was _spectacularly bad. |
| 13:39 | But it was supposed to be very good and exceedingly popular in Germany and Hungary. | |
| 13:39 | So I was wondering if you'd seen it. :) | |
| 13:39 | cait | ah |
| 13:39 | yes | |
| 13:39 | it was in stuttgart for a long time | |
| 13:39 | which is very close | |
| 13:39 | we got cheap tickets the first time and I liked it ok, the second time I accompanied a friend who was a great fan | |
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| 13:44 | Shane-S | what is the easiest way to backup koha, I used the package installs, and I see there is koha-run-backups and koha-dump, would that be enough and transferring to a remote system/drive? |
| 13:44 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:45 | koha-run-backups is to be run nightly. | |
| 13:45 | koha-dump produces a complete backup of the system. | |
| 13:45 | (it's run by koha-run-backups every night) | |
| 13:45 | Shane-S | oh, so then I can skip koha-dump? |
| 13:46 | as its part of backups | |
| 13:46 | jcamins | I'd rerun it so that you get any changes that were made this morning. |
| 13:47 | Shane-S | if I use run-backups that will do the -dump command though right? |
| 13:48 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:48 | Shane-S | okay thanks, I will work on getting that data :) |
| 13:49 | after I remember my login ROFL | |
| 13:52 | jcamins | paul_p: bug 9008 - do you plan on pushing it to 3.10? |
| 13:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9008 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Warn if librarian logged-in with mysql/admin account |
| 13:52 | jcamins | It does include string changes. |
| 13:53 | On the other hand, it is *only* new strings, and if a librarian can't understand the first message they see, they might be inclined to ask on the mailing list. | |
| 13:53 | paul_p | jcamins I think it can wait for 3.10.1 (not a critical fix, the problem existed for years, it's an important warning that should avoid some RFTM on mailing lists ;-) ) |
| 13:54 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 13:55 | paul_p | jcamins = but you can push it though. I'll just ignore it for 3.10 . Don't hesitate to push some patches not for 3.10. [Or at least starting to] |
| 13:55 | jcamins | paul_p: if I push anything that is 3.12-only, you'll have to switch to cherry-picking instead of merging. |
| 13:57 | paul_p | jcamins right. That's not a big problem for me. OTOH, having patches being piled could result in conflicts when you try to push all of them. We're 2 weeks from release, I think you can start pushing 3.12 |
| 13:57 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #931 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:58 | cait | jcamins: I think I like people staying focused on bug fixes for now |
| 13:59 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_8842' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a343a5943e7593eb4> / Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]175247aea0d92da1c> / Merge branch 'bug_8949' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]199a2c65849d0ed3b |
| 13:59 | cait | new features mean people get distracted and we will end upneeding 2 different patches - so more confusion |
| 13:59 | jcamins | I have a local integration branch for pushing 3.12 patches to so I can see what's going on. |
| 14:00 | paul_p | jcamins that's why I see "3.12-master" merges on git sometimes ? |
| 14:00 | jcamins | Well, I call the master branch "3.12-master." |
| 14:01 | The idea of 3.12-integration is so that I know what problems I'm facing in terms of merge conflicts, etc. | |
| 14:08 | Ugh... speaking of merge conflicts... | |
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| 14:31 | jcamins | I don't think I like Aquabrowser. |
| 14:32 | Also, why has no one told the Queens Library that the marquee tag is deprecated and annoying? | |
| 14:34 | oleonard | Wow really, marquee tag? |
| 14:36 | jcamins | Either that or they used javascript to emulate it. |
| 14:36 | Okay, I guess it's javascript. | |
| 14:36 | Looks like the marquee tag, though. | |
| 14:36 | oleonard | Their site looks a lot less polished than it used to be |
| 14:36 | jcamins | And I hate it. |
| 14:38 | oleonard | Wow I looked all over for the link to the catalog before I saw the form inside that big banner. |
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| 14:42 | cait | what is the marquee tag? |
| 14:43 | jcamins | cait: http://www.queenslibrary.org/ - take a look at the top of the page. |
| 14:43 | cait | eew |
| 14:46 | thx | |
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| 15:06 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #931: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/931/ |
| 15:06 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8490: fix Plack error when creating label layout | |
| 15:06 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8949: Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a nasty error | |
| 15:06 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays | |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Error when adding label layout under plack |
| 15:06 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error | |
| 15:06 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8842 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack and tools/holidays.pl | |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Anyone here who is good with awk? |
| 15:11 | Figured it out, never mind. | |
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| 15:15 | Lentzs | hello |
| 15:15 | cait | hi Lentzs |
| 15:16 | Lentzs | Over the weekend I was working on setting up an Koha server. It was easier then Evergreen. |
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| 15:18 | Lentzs | I was in hear chatting and was told it was more active during the week. |
| 15:18 | * Shane-S | tried evergreen about 3 years ago before Koha had packages...adn the building perl kept failing...now I am in love with Koha |
| 15:20 | knows PERL not building is "my" fault, but made it so Evergreen won me over because I got it installed :P | |
| 15:20 | Lentzs | Now I am trying to find an easy way to migrate from a Follett System. |
| 15:20 | Shane-S | Oh I just did that this summer from CIRC/CAT |
| 15:21 | you are going to need a marc editor...*goes to find that link* | |
| 15:21 | Lentzs | The school I am working with that old system. |
| 15:21 | Trying to help them save money. | |
| 15:22 | Shane-S | Lentzs: you will need to use http://people.oregonstate.edu/[…]it/html/index.php |
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| 15:22 | Lentzs | thanks. |
| 15:23 | cait | you will have to create marc records if follet can't export them |
| 15:23 | like Shane-S said :) | |
| 15:23 | Lentzs | I have been able to pull the MARC21. |
| 15:23 | cait | ah, if it's valid marc21 you can try importing it into koha using the staged marc tools next |
| 15:23 | Shane-S | Lentzs: I was able to export but had to change many of the 800 series to be 900 series |
| 15:24 | I also had to modify some fields, and I manually added library code, item type, and a couple more | |
| 15:24 | alaquerre | Hi all, Question for you. I know how to setup OAI server and I know it work. But I would like to understand how to « retreive » information from other server. The goal is to search a word « History » in OPAC and see the result from different OAI server . |
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| 15:25 | Lentzs | I have about 2000 Records to be edited. Will this do in batch? |
| 15:25 | Shane-S | Lentzs: yes it batch edits |
| 15:26 | Lentzs: I would try on a demo system to import so you can see what didn't transfer | |
| 15:26 | Lentzs: it helped me to setup a VM with it, and keep practicing until I got it right | |
| 15:26 | Lentzs | That it want I am working on now. |
| 15:27 | Shane-S | so I had my desktop with the MARC21 file, MarcEdit, and a Koha VM, and I just kept messing with and restoring Koha back to my initial setup |
| 15:30 | Lentzs | I have one qustion. Why am I able to search OPAC and it is finding data even though I reset the system. Is there a master reset command to dump and restart everything? |
| 15:31 | Of do I need to just reload the system. Ex reinstall OS. | |
| 15:31 | Shane-S | Lentzs: if I am not mistaken, zebra indexing takes 10 minutes be default |
| 15:31 | so I think Zebra still has it loaded, there is a command to clear it, I don't know it sadly | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | Shane-S: it runs every ten minutes by default. |
| 15:31 | Shane-S | jcamins: normally tells me :P |
| 15:32 | jcamins | The command is koha-rebuild-zebra --full lib |
| 15:34 | Lentzs | That did it. Must have been data that I loaded over the weekend. |
| 15:46 | jcamins | How do you pipe a multi-line string in bash? |
| 15:47 | Got it. | |
| 15:48 | Unfortunately, my solution killed my terminal. | |
| 15:52 | Lentzs | So all I have to do I move the 800 series to 900 series. It looks like the 800s have the copy info in them Ex. barcode info. If I move it over to the 900s will it keep the copy info? |
| 15:53 | alaquerre | i'll ask again sorry :-) Anyone know how to retreive OAI informations into OPAC so this is transparent for the user ? |
| 15:56 | cait | alaquerre: I am not sure what you want to do is possible with koha |
| 15:56 | alaquerre: afaik koha is an oai server - so it can be used to get records, but can't harvest itself | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | You might be able to us PazPar2, but I don't know how. |
| 15:57 | alaquerre | ok - I would like to retreive information from other server and display the information into Koha. Example : search "history" and get result from Britanica inside all the results. |
| 15:57 | if that's the case, what is missing to do a federated search ? | |
| 15:58 | jcamins | If PazPar2 supports SRU, nothing. |
| 15:58 | Well- a configuration file. | |
| 15:58 | If PazPar2 is Z39.50-only, support for federated search using SRU. | |
| 15:59 | alaquerre | Is SRU a "standard" just like OAI. ( sorry for my ignorance) |
| 15:59 | jcamins | As an aside, my understanding is that OAI is a harvesting protocol not a metasearch protocol. |
| 16:00 | It's a related standard, yes. | |
| 16:00 | alaquerre | you maybe right :-).. So that would mean - harverst all data and index them into Koha. |
| 16:00 | Most of our need are only in OAI. Not sure if they support SRU | |
| 16:01 | cait | I think you might have to harvest them then |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Right. If you want to do that, there is no support at all. |
| 16:01 | Koha does not have an OAI harvester built in. | |
| 16:01 | cait | yep |
| 16:01 | alaquerre | Would it be interresting to do one ? |
| 16:02 | jcamins | alaquerre: I'm sure it would be. |
| 16:02 | It would not, however, be trivial. | |
| 16:02 | alaquerre | jcamins: why ? |
| 16:03 | you see that a BIG dev ? | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Because there's no existing support for that sort of harvested data in Koha. |
| 16:03 | Very big. | |
| 16:03 | Shane-S | Lentzs: sorry I was away, I forget the exact record numbers needed, it isn't a 100% move, I went through and wrote down which fields I wanted/needed and matched them to Koha using the MARC screen under cataloging |
| 16:04 | alaquerre | ok - so my best approach is to try to make it work using SRU. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | I think doing that would require A) the search rewrite to be completed (http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC ), B) an OAI harvester to be implemented in a way that worked well with Koha [there may be a harvester that could already be used], and C) a search plugin for the harvested data would have to be written. |
| 16:05 | Yes. | |
| 16:05 | That may still be non-trivial, but I don't know for sure. | |
| 16:05 | gerundio | hi, can someone help with Koha over SSL/HTTPS? |
| 16:05 | jcamins | gerundio: what problem are you running into? |
| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:06 | cait | Lentzs: try not to reconfigure Koha - make your data math |
| 16:06 | match | |
| 16:06 | gerundio | jcamins, I've created a self signed certificate for the time being |
| 16:06 | cait | Lentzs: only a hint :) because it seems possible to reconfigure item information in the configuration screens, ubt it will kill the indexing and search |
| 16:06 | alaquerre | I'll keep that in mind. For my part, I still think this is a very interesting new features. ( SirsiDynix have it :-) ) and it is currently "mandatory feature" required by state university. |
| 16:06 | gerundio | and redirected all the requests from port 80 to 443 and 8080 to 8443 |
| 16:06 | alaquerre | jcamins: thanks for the inputs. |
| 16:07 | jcamins | PazPar2 supports SRU. |
| 16:07 | So you just need configuration files. | |
| 16:08 | gerundio | the redirect works fine |
| 16:09 | but now I just get 404 on any request | |
| 16:09 | jcamins | Did you enable SSL and change the VirtualHost to listen on 443? |
| 16:10 | gerundio | yeap |
| 16:11 | jcamins | Did you *stop* Apache and then start it again? |
| 16:11 | gerundio | the strangest thing is I'm not getting anything in the apache error logs |
| 16:11 | yeap, restarted apache at every change I've made | |
| 16:12 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #8 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:12 | gerundio | basically I moved all the opac related settings to the 443 vhost |
| 16:12 | and the intranet related setting to the 8443 vhost | |
| 16:13 | the 80 and 8080 vhosts have basically just DocumentRoot, ServerName and redirect settings | |
| 16:13 | surely this must be a case of PEBKAC | |
| 16:13 | jcamins | But when you say "restarted," did you do `sudo apache2ctl stop && sudo apache2ctl start` or `sudo apache2ctl restart` |
| 16:13 | The first will work. | |
| 16:13 | The second will not. | |
| 16:16 | gerundio | hmm, jcamins restart != stop + start? |
| 16:17 | or are you thinking of reload? | |
| 16:17 | I used restart at 1st | |
| 16:17 | now I tried the stop + start combo and the result is the same | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | No, I'm thinking of restart. |
| 16:17 | It's a bug in Apache's SSL support. | |
| 16:18 | Something to do with setuid and certificates. | |
| 16:19 | However, apparently that wasn't the problem. | |
| 16:19 | Could you please paste your koha-httpd.conf? | |
| 16:19 | oleonard | paste? |
| 16:19 | wahanui | paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 16:19 | jcamins | Right. Paste your koha-httpd.conf using that. :) |
| 16:20 | gerundio | jcamins, just solved it |
| 16:21 | mod_ssl wasn't enabled as I thought | |
| 16:21 | jcamins | Ah-ha! |
| 16:21 | gerundio | assumed it was the 1st thing I did ... but I missed it :| |
| 16:21 | weird thing though it didn't show up in any log | |
| 16:21 | jcamins | For the record, if the Nor'easter this week is bad, I will be _very_ displeased. |
| 16:22 | And no one wants a displeased RM! | |
| 16:24 | No one! | |
| 16:26 | cait | Nor'easter? |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Really bad storm. |
| 16:27 | cait | another? |
| 16:27 | wahanui | another is probably http://macromedia.bsz-bw.de |
| 16:27 | cait | oh |
| 16:27 | forget another | |
| 16:27 | wahanui | cait: I forgot another |
| 16:27 | jcamins | That's kind of an interesting thing to have for "another." |
| 16:27 | But, yes. | |
| 16:28 | It's not expected to be nearly as destructive as Sandy, but still. | |
| 16:30 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/pourmecoff[…]65468464603467776 |
| 16:31 | jcamins | You know, I've wondered about that. |
| 16:33 | I figured it was because New Englanders were sailors, and when setting a course in a sailing ship, one goes "nor-east" and not "north east." | |
| 16:34 | Shane-S | I love how weather.com has more "news" in my face then weather...isn't your site called "The Weather Channel"? If I want news I can tune into it! |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Shane-S: you mean there's any news that isn't weather-related? |
| 16:35 | * jcamins | appreciated the respite from election news. |
| 16:36 | Shane-S | jcamins: lol, no no I mean I just want a darn map so I can see this Nor'Easter (northeaster sound like a holiday IMO) since I live in NJ |
| 16:37 | jcamins | Shane-S: oh, yeah, I couldn't find a map on the weather sites either. |
| 16:37 | Shane-S | and the graphic on the main page showing be the low pressure with its triangled line doesn't help me like a cloud cover and temp./winds does :P |
| 16:38 | the map for my zip code is clear...but I missed it, because the All State Ad is larger then the map :) | |
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| 16:39 | jcamins | Well, if you didn't have insurance already, you might want to get some. :P |
| 16:41 | Shane-S | Nah, I have a Kayak and I live 60 feet above sea level, if I get flooded, Philly is gone, which is where my insurance company is :) |
| 16:42 | jcamins | You can fit all your servers in a kayak? |
| 16:42 | That must be a big kayak! | |
| 16:43 | Shane-S | HAHA where I work is 1/4 mile off the Delaware River, if we flood, my servers can became aquatic, I am moving :) |
| 16:43 | jcamins | We do not have a kayak. |
| 16:44 | Shane-S | I can lend it to you, I can use my waverunner until it runs out of fuel |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Which will be soon. |
| 16:44 | Shane-S | yeah, 4 hours max |
| 16:44 | chris_n | can anyone point me toward a report that returns a subset of items based on a given domain of itemcallnumber? |
| 16:44 | jcamins | chris_n: we have one on the wiki. |
| 16:45 | sql reports library? | |
| 16:45 | wahanui | sql reports library is probably at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 16:45 | jcamins | Of course, the toc is entirely useless at this point. |
| 16:45 | Shane-S | wait...accuweather.com...has a MAP! With green dots...and they aren't large or many...where is this nor'easter forming? |
| 16:46 | jcamins | Shane-S: no idea. |
| 16:46 | * jcamins | presumes in the north east. |
| 16:49 | Shane-S | just rain wednesday-thursday, I won't if anti-depressant drug stocks and doctor related visits are up |
| 16:49 | jcamins | chris_n: I can't find it. Something like: SELECT biblio.title FROM item LEFT JOIN biblio ON item.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber WHERE item.itemcallnumber BETWEEN <<starting call number>> AND <<ending call number>>? |
| 16:53 | chris_n | I couldn't find it either, but that works; I'll post it shortly |
| 16:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.10.x build #8: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/8/ |
| 16:54 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8490: fix Plack error when creating label layout | |
| 16:54 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8949: Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a nasty error | |
| 16:54 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8842 fix Plack scoping for holidays | |
| 16:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8490 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Error when adding label layout under plack |
| 16:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8949 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Trying to view help on a page without any help results in a Perl error | |
| 16:54 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8842 blocker, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Plack and tools/holidays.pl | |
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| 16:57 | jcamins | Bug 8215. Bug 7067. Bug 7243. |
| 16:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves |
| 16:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac | |
| 16:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7243 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Do not take rentals as fines | |
| 17:01 | chris_n | jcamins: is BETWEEN inclusive? |
| 17:02 | jcamins | chris_n: I think so. |
| 17:02 | chris_n | doh |
| 17:02 | * chris_n | really should pay more attention |
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| 17:03 | * chris_n | accidentally spilled his glass of water on his desk-gremlin this morning |
| 17:03 | chris_n | and you know the rest of the story |
| 17:03 | :) | |
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| 17:17 | gerundio | where in Koha's intranet UI can I set up printers? |
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| 17:18 | jcamins | At the moment server-side printing is not supported. |
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| 17:19 | jcamins | You just have to configure the local printer. :( |
| 17:19 | gerundio | ok |
| 17:19 | oleonard | I thought someone was working to bring that back? |
| 17:19 | jcamins | oleonard: someone is. |
| 17:19 | The actual printing code hasn't made it in yet. | |
| 17:19 | gerundio | I got the wrong idea then, my colleague said he had configured that in his Koha setup |
| 17:19 | jcamins | And it worked? |
| 17:20 | Okay, let me check. | |
| 17:20 | I thought it wasn't finished yet. | |
| 17:20 | gerundio | I can't confirm it, he's out in vacation until late this month |
| 17:21 | he left me with a `printers_profile` MySQL dump though | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | Bug 8034 |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8034 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Enable server print queue selection |
| 17:21 | jcamins | The table exists. It's just that Koha doesn't print things using it. |
| 17:21 | gerundio | nothing regarding printer's IPs on these records |
| 17:21 | so I don't think it has much use | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 17:22 | Oh, wait! | |
| 17:22 | I understand. | |
| 17:22 | You're not asking about printing. | |
| 17:22 | You're asking about labels. | |
| 17:22 | Sorry. | |
| 17:22 | Tools -> Label creator | |
| 17:25 | gerundio | you got me right the 1st time |
| 17:25 | I was asking for printers indeed | |
| 17:26 | is server-side printing a big thing among Koha's competitors? | |
| 17:28 | jcamins | It would depend on the individual library. |
| 17:28 | Though I will note that in none of the libraries I worked in would that have been a necessary feature. | |
| 17:29 | Or probably even a useful one. | |
| 17:38 | gerundio | yeah, I was introduced to it, on a library context, just today |
| 17:39 | no one seemed to be able to explain to me the major advantage of server-side printing | |
| 17:42 | jcamins | The idea makes sense: hook up one printer to one computer, and new circulation workstations don't require printer configuration. |
| 17:42 | But if you want separate receipt printers, it's not so helpful. | |
| 17:46 | chris_n | jcamins: posted: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Call_Number_Range |
| 17:46 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 17:46 | _Now_ there's a report. | |
| 17:47 | chris_n | too bad wahanui can't search the sql reports titles for keywords |
| 17:54 | gaetan_B | bye |
| 17:57 | oleonard | You can't tell Koha *not* to issue a refund when a lost item is checked in can you? |
| 17:58 | jcamins | oleonard: there's a bug for that, I think. |
| 17:59 | Signed off, maybe? | |
| 17:59 | oleonard | Ah yes, Bug 7189 |
| 17:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund |
| 17:59 | oleonard | And I signed off on it :P |
| 18:00 | * oleonard | should have stayed in bed today |
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| 18:04 | martian523 | hi, i have a question about calendar and holidays |
| 18:04 | i've set up let's say thanksgiving holidays in november | |
| 18:05 | however, when users are borrowing books, the due dates are not skipping these two days | |
| 18:06 | i've chosen "the calendar to skip all days the library is closed" in system preferences | |
| 18:06 | is there something else i'm missing? | |
| 18:27 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:27 | wahanui | rumour has it Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:28 | martian523 | Morning |
| 18:28 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:28 | wahanui | rumour has it morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:33 | martian523 | is there someone who can answer my question? |
| 18:35 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 18:37 | rangi | What version Martian523? |
| 18:37 | martian523 | 3.8.3 |
| 18:38 | rangi | There was some bugs around holidays do you have a test server you can try 3.8.6 on? |
| 18:39 | It has security fixes too | |
| 18:39 | So is worth the upgrade anyway | |
| 18:39 | martian523 | yes, we have a test server |
| 18:40 | rangi | I'd try 3.8.6 on there I know a bunch of calendar bugs were fixed |
| 18:41 | martian523 | thanks |
| 18:44 | bag | unless you use hourly-loans as far as I know |
| 18:44 | I've heard there is still a problem with hourly-loans and 3.8.6 | |
| 18:44 | martian523 | don't really use hourly loans |
| 18:44 | rangi | Quite likely |
| 18:45 | martian523 | but in the mean time we'll just manually change the due dates |
| 18:45 | bag | then you should be all fine (no pun intended) |
| 18:45 | morning rangi | |
| 18:45 | err.. should I say rangi who drags peeps around in the rain rangi | |
| 18:46 | rangi | Hehe |
| 18:46 | martian523 | thanks for the help! |
| 18:52 | rangi | Not worries |
| 18:52 | No even | |
| 18:52 | My stop brb | |
| 19:02 | back | |
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| 19:07 | * rangi | reads the rm newsletter |
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| 19:10 | mac123 | hello |
| 19:10 | wahanui | salut, mac123 |
| 19:11 | mac123 | i need some help |
| 19:11 | tried to apply patch 5339 | |
| 19:11 | and got this | |
| 19:11 | Bug 5339: ergonomic changes Apply? [yn] y Applying: Bug 5339: ergonomic changes error: acqui/invoice.pl: does not exist in index error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/invoice.tt: does not exist in index error: patch failed: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:192 error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel. | |
| 19:12 | error: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt: patch does not apply Patch failed at 0001 Bug 5339: ergonomic changes When you have resolved this problem run "git am --resolved". If you would prefer to skip this patch, instead run "git am --skip". To restore the original branch and stop patching run "git am --abort". Patch left in /tmp/Bug-533 | |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Why are you trying to apply the patch for bug 5339? |
| 19:13 | If you are using a current version of Koha, the patches for bug 5339 are already applied. | |
| 19:13 | rangi | also, how are you trying to apply it? |
| 19:13 | mac123 | that's where our big problem is |
| 19:13 | i know | |
| 19:13 | jcamins | If you are not using a current version of Koha, you need to upgrade, not apply patches. |
| 19:14 | mac123 | we are using an unstable version |
| 19:14 | 3.09 | |
| 19:14 | and we have to use it for a while | |
| 19:14 | rangi | 3.09.x ? whats the x bit? |
| 19:14 | look at your about page it will tell you | |
| 19:15 | mac123 | 3.09.00.013 |
| 19:15 | rangi | hmm thats pretty old |
| 19:15 | you installed from git right? from the master branch? | |
| 19:15 | mac123 | git bz apply.... |
| 19:16 | is that correct? | |
| 19:16 | rangi | yes, if it applies cleanly that will work if not you have to git am -iu3 it |
| 19:16 | but if you are running your koha from git | |
| 19:17 | jcamins | That error message means that you applied the first patch incorrectly as well. |
| 19:17 | rangi | you could just checkout the 3.10.x and be at least a semi stable point .. why are you looked at a really old version? |
| 19:17 | jcamins | (or they're out of order) |
| 19:18 | mac123 | apparently this is the version that's being using by my library |
| 19:18 | jcamins | There are a *ton* of patches for that bug. |
| 19:18 | mac123 | it has something to do with the hourly loans |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Tell your library to upgrade. |
| 19:18 | rangi | yeah, seriously |
| 19:18 | there are over 200 patches | |
| 19:18 | between 013 | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | rangi: wow, that was really fast. |
| 19:18 | rangi | adn now |
| 19:18 | hmm? | |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Finding that number. |
| 19:18 | mac123 | what about the hourly loans? |
| 19:19 | jcamins | What about them? |
| 19:19 | mac123 | from what i understand, this is one of the issues why we are not changing yet |
| 19:19 | rangi | hmm |
| 19:19 | mac123 | LDAP and hourly loans |
| 19:19 | jcamins | You'd have to explain what the issue is. |
| 19:19 | rangi | changing to what? yeah |
| 19:19 | mac123 | to a stable version |
| 19:21 | rangi | right |
| 19:21 | so all the patches you are trying to apply, have already been applied and will be in the 3.10.0 release | |
| 19:21 | so you could spend a bunch of time making your life hard | |
| 19:21 | trying to apply patches | |
| 19:22 | or you could upgrade to the 3.10.x branch (on a test server first of course) | |
| 19:22 | mac123 | i totally understand |
| 19:22 | jcamins | What you should do is set up a test server tracking 3.10.x and find out if the "issues" with hourly loans have been resolved. |
| 19:22 | mac123 | and probably that's what i'll have to do |
| 19:22 | thank you so much | |
| 19:22 | rangi | no worries |
| 19:22 | good luck | |
| 19:23 | * jcamins | suspects that "issues" may be a code word for "we don't remember anymore." That's what it usually is. |
| 19:23 | mac123 | :) |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 19:23 | rangi | hey wizzyrea |
| 19:23 | wahanui | wizzyrea is, like, a Cylon, and they all have plans |
| 19:23 | rangi | enjoy the fireworks? |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | what we saw of them, yes - quite impressive |
| 19:28 | bag | heya wizzyrea |
| 19:28 | wahanui | wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | hello :) |
| 19:30 | cait | hi wizzyrea |
| 19:30 | hi rangi, bag and wahanui too :) | |
| 19:33 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
| 19:39 | rangi | hmm i think most of Elaine's list issues are underway being fixed? |
| 19:41 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I was feeling like complaining about Daylight Savings Time messing with my kids' sleep schedules and then I remembered yours is dealing with the mother of all time changes. |
| 19:42 | rangi | and some crazy guy dragging him through rain, then museums |
| 19:42 | cait | hehe |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | hehe no spud is actually doing well |
| 19:43 | i mean, more or less - he's not used to all the walking | |
| 19:43 | oleonard | rangi: I'm pretty sure that's a perk |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | so he conks out at the drop of a hat |
| 19:43 | oleonard | Sweet. |
| 19:43 | :) | |
| 19:44 | jcamins | cait: which e-mail address do you use in Bugzilla? |
| 19:44 | bag | yeah rangi is famous for dragging people through rain after long flights |
| 19:44 | cait | the katrin... one |
| 19:44 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:44 | cait | why are you asking? |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | well rangi keeps going on about how wet and cold it was - but I didn't think it was much worse than a yucky kansas october |
| 19:45 | jcamins | I am assigning bug 8215 to you for QA once the follow-ups have been signed off on. |
| 19:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, In Discussion , Add Course Reserves |
| 19:45 | jcamins | You can delegate. |
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| 19:57 | rangi | wizzyrea: whats on the cards for today, its pretty meh weather |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | today - a visit to the central library to get certified copies of passports |
| 19:57 | and a trip to jb hifi for a tv, I think. | |
| 19:57 | rangi | heh, gave in |
| 19:57 | ? | |
| 19:57 | check dick smiths too | |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | well, we have a western digital media center |
| 19:58 | rangi | its on manners street |
| 19:58 | wizzyrea | and a zillion movies |
| 19:58 | so we don't need cable tv or sattellite | |
| 19:58 | or netflix, for that matter. | |
| 19:59 | rangi | ah just a nice monitor |
| 19:59 | jcamins | You have a Manners Street in Wellington? |
| 19:59 | So polite! | |
| 19:59 | * chris_n | stuffs the last gremlin back into the box |
| 19:59 | chris_n | almost time to go home :-P |
| 20:00 | heya wizzyrea | |
| 20:00 | wahanui | wizzyrea is a Cylon, and they all have plans. |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | it's a chris_n sighting! |
| 20:00 | hi there! | |
| 20:00 | chris_n | hi rangi |
| 20:00 | wizzyrea | it really really likes to tell people t hat I'm a cylon. |
| 20:00 | chris_n | lol |
| 20:00 | jcamins | wizzyrea: 'bot solidarity. :P |
| 20:01 | oleonard | Anti-solidarity? wahanui really wants to warn us. |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | now i want to watch battlestar galactica. |
| 20:02 | thanks guys. | |
| 20:02 | jcamins | I didn't like Battlestar Galactica. |
| 20:03 | oleonard | I didn't like Lost. |
| 20:03 | jcamins | I never saw any. |
| 20:03 | wizzyrea | I liked lost until about season 3. |
| 20:03 | and I thought bsg was ok until the last season | |
| 20:04 | oleonard | I tried a few episodes of Lost and couldn't get into it. |
| 20:04 | I loved BSG though. | |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | well actually, now thinking about it |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Of course, the first time I saw an episode of Stargate Atlantis I thought it looked awful but it turned out to be pretty good. |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | there was a season, but it wasn't the last, of bsg that was just not good |
| 20:04 | the last one was ok, now that I'm thinking about it | |
| 20:05 | but I watched them as one two week long movie, more or less | |
| 20:05 | so the seasons all blend together | |
| 20:05 | oleonard | Yeah, that's one of the disadvantages to doing it all in one go. |
| 20:06 | * magnuse | can't find his little Horowhenua pin |
| 20:06 | oleonard | On the other hand, the Dr. Who method of showing four episodes then season's over isn't so great either. |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | gh yea |
| 20:06 | jcamins | There are only four episodes per season of Dr. Who? |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | well they split them |
| 20:07 | 5 episodes, then xmas special | |
| 20:07 | then 5 or 6 more in the spring | |
| 20:08 | oleonard | You can't all it one season if you have to wait until a new actual season to see the rest of it :P |
| 20:09 | ibeardslee | damn .. can't find a copy of that Mockers song for jcamins .. Murder on Manners St |
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| 20:32 | Manderson | Hi everyone - I am trying out Koha on a Redhat installation. Is there any documentation on the differences I might find by using redhat vs debian? |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Manderson: I don't know of any documentation on successful Redhat installs. |
| 20:33 | I know of lots of people who have failed to get Koha working on Redhat, though. | |
| 20:33 | Manderson | :( |
| 20:33 | that's not a positive thing | |
| 20:33 | :P | |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 20:33 | Manderson | Wonder what the deal is |
| 20:34 | ? | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Red Hat + Zebra = [head exploding smiley] |
| 20:34 | Zebra, mostly. | |
| 20:34 | Manderson | Oooh |
| 20:34 | jcamins | The actual Koha code works fine, once you get all the dependencies installed (mostly via CPAN). |
| 20:35 | I can tell you how to solve the first Zebra issue you'll encounter: the Zebra binary files' paths are hardcoded into a bunch of files in /etc/koha/zebradb. | |
| 20:35 | You can just adjust the paths to match the strange places Red Hat sticks things. | |
| 20:36 | But Zebra still won't work after doing that, and I have no idea why. | |
| 20:36 | Manderson | But if I install zebra from source, I should be able to configure it for where koha is expecting it to be? |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Oh, one additional point: you need Perl 5.10+ |
| 20:36 | Manderson | I've got 5.10.1 |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Then you're fine. |
| 20:37 | That's the same version I used up until last month. | |
| 20:38 | I think the issue is that Red Hat doesn't use /usr... or something like that. | |
| 20:38 | Manderson | Hmmm |
| 20:38 | jcamins | But in terms of paths, that's easy to fix. |
| 20:38 | I can walk you through that step. | |
| 20:39 | It's the fact that Zebra crashes even when the configuration file works that gets in the way of a functioning system. | |
| 20:40 | Manderson | oh |
| 20:40 | jcamins | I don't know if anyone has compiled Zebra from source, though. |
| 20:40 | Manderson | I am going to monkey with it for a few... |
| 20:53 | * oleonard | growls at the self checkout code again |
| 20:54 | * cait | sends oleonard cookies |
| 20:54 | cait | late shift at the library? |
| 20:55 | oleonard | No, Daylight Savings Time |
| 20:59 | cait | ah :) |
| 21:07 | Manderson | What is the default installation directory for zebra on Debian? |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 21:08 | /usr/* | |
| 21:08 | I think. | |
| 21:08 | Let me check. | |
| 21:08 | eythian | hi |
| 21:09 | jcamins | Yeah. In /usr, mostly /usr/share/idzebra-2.0 (with libraries in /usr/lib and /usr/bin, of course. |
| 21:09 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:10 | eythian | hello |
| 21:10 | Manderson | I'm thinking I'll try /data0/zebra-2x and linking everything into the standard directories. |
| 21:10 | * eythian | points to the magic of dpkg -L for figuring out where things go |
| 21:11 | Manderson | eythian: I am taking a crack at getting koha working on a redhat server. |
| 21:11 | eythian | ah right |
| 21:11 | good luck, bon voyage! | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | eythian: oh, I didn't know about that one. |
| 21:11 | I used apt-file show idzebra-2.0 | |
| 21:11 | eythian | that'd also work |
| 21:12 | Manderson | eythian: hahaha! Thanks |
| 21:15 | rangi | @marc 110 |
| 21:15 | huginn | rangi: A corporate name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,k,l,n,p,t,u,4,6,8] |
| 21:15 | rangi | @marc 111 |
| 21:15 | huginn | rangi: A meeting name used as a main entry in a bibliographic record. [a,c,d,e,f,g,j,k,l,n,p,q,t,u,4,6,8] |
| 21:15 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
| 21:16 | cait | jcamins: uh-oh |
| 21:16 | rangi | @marc 710 |
| 21:16 | huginn | rangi: An added entry in which the entry element is a corporate name. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,k,l,m,n,o,p,r,s,t,u,x,3,4,5,6,8] |
| 21:16 | jcamins | Never a good sign when rangi starts looking up authority-controlled MARC fields. |
| 21:16 | cait | exactly m ythought |
| 21:16 | wonder what he is up to | |
| 21:19 | eythian | actually, it's my fault |
| 21:19 | got a library that's been using some unusal standards | |
| 21:20 | cait | don#t we all have those? |
| 21:22 | eythian | well, first of all they wanted all authors in 7xx, which I said was a bad idea. Now they want them all in 1xx, which I'm about to say is also a bad idea. |
| 21:22 | cait | yeah |
| 21:22 | it's not repeatable | |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Right, see what they did is stuck with the AACR1 rules. |
| 21:22 | cait | ? |
| 21:23 | jcamins | cait: for main entry coding. |
| 21:23 | cait | confused |
| 21:23 | wahanui | confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
| 21:23 | eythian | that'll explain why they're talking about main entry a lot then |
| 21:24 | jcamins | What you have to do is move the *first* 700/710/711 field to the corresponding 1xx field, except... |
| 21:24 | eythian | and how they use titles rather than authors for it. |
| 21:25 | jcamins | for fields with ind2=2 and 700[ind1=3] |
| 21:25 | Unless there's already a 1xx, obviously. | |
| 21:25 | On records where you move that, you'll also have to change 245ind1 to '1' | |
| 21:26 | Then you'll want to change the default search on the OPAC and staff client to be by title, and hide under a desk until the project is over. :P | |
| 21:26 | cait | lol |
| 21:26 | eythian | what does the default search have to do with anything? |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Oh, that's so they don't complain the books are out of order. |
| 21:27 | That's how you get away with hiding under your desk. :P | |
| 21:27 | eythian | Oh, so the default search ordering? |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:28 | That's less a cataloging thing and more an "I bet I know what catalogers who use AACR1 are going to do if presented with relevance ranking." | |
| 21:29 | bag | stats? |
| 21:29 | wahanui | stats are good |
| 21:29 | bag | stats website? |
| 21:29 | jcamins | bag: IRC stats or signoff stats? |
| 21:29 | bag | ircstats? |
| 21:29 | cait | irc logs? |
| 21:29 | wahanui | irc logs are http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 21:29 | bag | irc stats? |
| 21:30 | nope not logs stats | |
| 21:30 | jcamins | Replace irclog with ircstats, I think. |
| 21:30 | eythian | is is possible to change the default sort ordering as a syspref, or is it a template change? |
| 21:30 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ |
| 21:30 | jcamins | eythian: there's a syspref. It was just patched. |
| 21:30 | rangi | about a month old |
| 21:30 | eythian | so probably not in 3.8 yet? |
| 21:31 | bag | hmm jcamins is close to passing kados - I wonder what that means ;) |
| 21:31 | oh but no worries wizzyrea is right behind | |
| 21:31 | eythian | > Is huginn stupid or just asking too many questions? 52.2% lines contained a question! |
| 21:32 | bag | and cait has already passed :) |
| 21:32 | eythian | despite being split as kf and cait :) |
| 21:32 | cait | i think someone taught the irc logs about my double identities |
| 21:33 | eythian | ah right |
| 21:33 | * cait | looks in rangi's direction |
| 21:33 | jcamins | bag: "close to passing kados" is relative... I have to say 20% more than I already have. |
| 21:33 | cait | and we all know I talk too much :) |
| 21:34 | bag | yeah I thd takes the prize for saying the most per line… That wins - cause we could break that up and destory rangi |
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| 21:44 | rangi | stats updated |
| 21:44 | soon cait will knock kados out of the 0-5 spot | |
| 21:44 | cait | lol |
| 21:45 | quite soon | |
| 21:45 | so soon | |
| 21:45 | soso soon | |
| 21:45 | did I say soon yet? | |
| 21:45 | * cait | tries to hurry things up a bit |
| 21:45 | rangi | now doesnt count |
| 21:45 | jcamins | @karma |
| 21:45 | rangi | its not 0-5 |
| 21:45 | huginn | jcamins: Highest karma: "rangi" (681), "oleonard" (581), and "jcamins" (432). Lowest karma: "<!" (-111), "failed" (-94), and "-" (-66). You (jcamins) are ranked 3 out of 2278. |
| 21:45 | rangi | :) |
| 21:46 | bag | cait soon? |
| 21:47 | cait | rangi: darn. |
| 21:47 | bag | @karma brendan |
| 21:47 | huginn | bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 21:47 | bag | noice |
| 21:47 | rangi | karma for bag |
| 21:47 | wahanui | bag has karma of 3 |
| 21:47 | rangi | @karma bag |
| 21:47 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "bag" has been increased 3 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 3. |
| 21:47 | cait | @karma cait |
| 21:47 | huginn | cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 330 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 329. |
| 21:48 | bag | @karma druthb |
| 21:48 | huginn | bag: Karma for "druthb" has been increased 149 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 148. |
| 21:48 | bag | @karma nengard |
| 21:48 | huginn | bag: Karma for "nengard" has been increased 230 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 229. |
| 21:48 | bag | @karma melia |
| 21:48 | huginn | bag: Karma for "melia" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 21:48 | bag | @karma libsysguy |
| 21:48 | huginn | bag: Karma for "libsysguy" has been increased 29 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 29. |
| 21:48 | rangi | @karma chris |
| 21:48 | huginn | rangi: Karma for "chris" has been increased 0 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 0. |
| 21:48 | rangi | what! |
| 21:48 | :) | |
| 21:49 | bag | chris++ |
| 21:49 | @karma chrisc | |
| 21:49 | huginn | bag: chrisc has neutral karma. |
| 21:49 | rangi | naw, gmcharlt shifted it all |
| 21:49 | gmcharlt++ | |
| 21:50 | bag | @karma liblime |
| 21:50 | huginn | bag: Karma for "liblime" has been increased 0 times and decreased 13 times for a total karma of -13. |
| 21:50 | bag | @karma windows |
| 21:50 | huginn | bag: Karma for "windows" has been increased 1 time and decreased 20 times for a total karma of -19. |
| 21:50 | rangi | windows-- |
| 21:50 | ie8-- | |
| 21:50 | bag | oh surprising - heh |
| 21:50 | rangi | ie7-- |
| 21:50 | ie-- | |
| 21:50 | anything_apple-- | |
| 21:50 | while im in the mood ) | |
| 21:50 | :) | |
| 21:51 | bag | well the hardware for apple isn't -- |
| 21:51 | rangi | its heading that way |
| 21:51 | bag | software I could agree with |
| 21:51 | right - well pre jobs | |
| 21:51 | rangi | wtf just put a micro usb on it you dicks! |
| 21:51 | :) | |
| 21:51 | * rangi | goes to get coffee |
| 21:52 | bag | yeah get a real coffee |
| 21:52 | gmcharlt | coffee, micro usb != goes well together |
| 21:52 | bag | gmcharlt: you haven't tried it yet have you? |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | bag: fortunately, no, I'm relating emperical personal observation ;) |
| 21:55 | rather, I'm *not* relating | |
| 21:55 | bag | heh |
| 21:55 | gmcharlt | which of course means, Murphy being Murphy, that I'm probably now due to drop one of my thumb drives in my coffee this week |
| 21:55 | bag | I recommend the espresso by the beaker instead |
| 21:57 | Manderson | can someone run a 'ldd /usr/local/lib/perl5/auto/Net/Z3950/ZOOM/ZOOM.so' and tell me where libyaz.so.4 resides? |
| 21:57 | rangi | bag: http://www.bodum.com/gb/en-us/[…]1102-01/?navid=61 i have one of these for the bus |
| 21:57 | bag | @seen sekjal |
| 21:57 | huginn | bag: sekjal was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 2 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <sekjal> this is one of the first times I've listened to music at work… that's definitey something I miss from my home office days |
| 21:58 | bag | nice! |
| 21:58 | Manderson | nvm |
| 21:58 | I found it | |
| 21:58 | jcamins | libyaz.so.4 => /usr/lib/libyaz.so.4 |
| 21:59 | Manderson | thanks jcamins |
| 21:59 | I had a libyaz.so.4.0.0 | |
| 22:00 | I am in perl dependency heaven...or hell | |
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| 22:15 | rangi | wb wizzyrea |
| 22:15 | been to town already? | |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | tyty |
| 22:15 | no, not quite yet - that was just "getting things done" | |
| 22:15 | rangi | :) |
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| 22:43 | rangi | hmm bug 7310 |
| 22:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, ASSIGNED , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 22:43 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7310] Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310> | |
| 22:43 | rangi | that has pretty much busted a useful piece of functionality afaict |
| 22:44 | anyone who has a sec | |
| 22:44 | when you edit a list | |
| 22:44 | does it look like this | |
| 22:44 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=8519 | |
| 22:44 | because i dont get those sharing options | |
| 22:46 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 22:46 | rangi | hmm |
| 22:46 | jcamins | It looks exactly like that. |
| 22:46 | rangi | interesting |
| 22:46 | wahanui | interesting is, like, sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 22:46 | rangi | well thats good at leats |
| 22:46 | jcamins | Well, modulo CSS changes. |
| 22:46 | rangi | least |
| 22:50 | thanks jcamins | |
| 22:55 | thats in master eh? | |
| 22:55 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 22:55 | rangi | i think it might be busted in 3.8.x just checking more |
| 22:58 | ah ha | |
| 22:59 | 3.8.x is missing 7805 | |
| 22:59 | jcamins | bug 7805 |
| 22:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7805 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Exposing the new list permissions in opac and staff |
| 22:59 | rangi | without it, 7310 effectively kills open lists |
| 23:00 | jcamins | I didn't think bug 7310 went into 3.8? |
| 23:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 enhancement, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 23:00 | rangi | it sure seems to have |
| 23:00 | pushed to master pre 3.8.0 | |
| 23:01 | yep | |
| 23:01 | * jcamins | has a vague recollection of having objected to this, actually. |
| 23:01 | rangi | in march |
| 23:01 | cait | hmmm |
| 23:01 | rangi | so yeah 3.8.x really needs 7805 too, for it to be useful as it stands it just lost a feature |
| 23:01 | cait | wanted |
| 23:01 | rangi | and gained nothing |
| 23:01 | jcamins | Wasn't this one of the "security fixes" that I felt was a huge step back? |
| 23:01 | cait | some nice facts about international use of koha? |
| 23:02 | jcamins | Kind of like the "no cart e-mails" feature. |
| 23:02 | rangi | could be, but at least i have solved the mysery |
| 23:02 | yeah | |
| 23:02 | jcamins | *"feature" |
| 23:04 | rangi | that almost did my head in |
| 23:04 | glad i figured out what it was | |
| 23:04 | cait: how about this morning some nzers got cataloguing help from a new yorker | |
| 23:04 | cait | oh that is a good one |
| 23:05 | we need a cat too | |
| 23:05 | don't know why, but cats are always good | |
| 23:06 | rangi | the scoreboard? |
| 23:06 | http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/ about 15 differetn nationalities | |
| 23:06 | saving 252 kittens | |
| 23:07 | in 3 days | |
| 23:10 | cait | hm not my part |
| 23:10 | I need some nice numbers connected to international koha use | |
| 23:12 | rangi | hmm? |
| 23:12 | just make some up | |
| 23:12 | no one can prove you wrong | |
| 23:12 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:12 | libsysguy | heh |
| 23:12 | true | |
| 23:12 | jcamins | Number of different countries represented on the mailing list in the last week? |
| 23:12 | libsysguy | 95% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
| 23:12 | jcamins | Or month? |
| 23:12 | wahanui | month is more than enough time. |
| 23:14 | cait | hehe |
| 23:14 | ok, I am open for suggestions then :) | |
| 23:14 | rangi | ppl from 77 countries visited koha-community.org in november so far |
| 23:14 | 126 in october | |
| 23:14 | JesseM joined #koha | |
| 23:15 | rangi | 12169 visits |
| 23:15 | 236 visitors from germany | |
| 23:16 | (10th in the list) | |
| 23:16 | cait | oh |
| 23:16 | rangi | nz is 11th |
| 23:16 | cait | cool |
| 23:16 | rangi | top 5 |
| 23:16 | US, UK, Spain, India, France | |
| 23:17 | firefox, chrome, then a long way back to ie, then safari then opera | |
| 23:18 | cait | :) |
| 23:19 | what about finished translations? hm. *checks release notes* | |
| 23:21 | hm | |
| 23:22 | libsysguy | actually this has about 30 mins left |
| 23:22 | so im going to let it chug | |
| 23:22 | ill email you if you're not still around when I get back | |
| 23:23 | oops wrong window | |
| 23:23 | jcamins | libsysguy: wrong window. |
| 23:23 | libsysguy | heh got it |
| 23:23 | libsysguy: STOP TYPING BEFORE YOU DIVULGE SENSITIVE INFORMATION | |
| 23:23 | k thx bye | |
| 23:25 | jcamins | lol |
| 23:33 | cait | rangi++ thx for the looking up website stats |
| 23:33 | rangi | no worries |
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