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| 00:09 | cait1 | 3127 |
| 00:09 | drojf | i can't make it stop using the yahoo server |
| 00:09 | meh | |
| 00:10 | cait1 | oh? |
| 00:10 | drojf | now it's gone. maybe the blocking addon was just confused |
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| 01:10 | cait1 | ok |
| 01:10 | closed around 1000 bugs | |
| 01:10 | from resolved fixed to closed fixed | |
| 01:13 | rangi | cait1++ |
| 01:13 | now go to sleep | |
| 01:14 | eythian | cait1: you are not good at this holiday thing |
| 01:14 | cait1 | eythian: :) |
| 01:15 | cait | @karma cait1 |
| 01:15 | huginn | cait: Karma for "cait1" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 01:15 | cait | heh |
| 01:23 | cjh | cait++ |
| 01:23 | cait: have to transfer that karma over :) | |
| 01:23 | cait | :) |
| 01:30 | night all | |
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| 03:23 | eythian | master packages built and uploading, second day in a row :) |
| 03:23 | (although they still don't build out of the box, just yet. One more patch.) | |
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| 03:24 | Oak | @wunder ny |
| 03:24 | huginn | Oak: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 03:25 | * Oak | waves |
| 03:25 | cjh | heh |
| 03:26 | Oak | :) |
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| 05:28 | Maxie2012 | Hi! Anyone can help me with installing VirtualBox? I want to set it up so I can install Linux Debian, Apache etc. so that I then install Koha.... |
| 05:29 | How much RAM do I need....is the recommended 384RAM sufficient? | |
| 05:29 | sorry...I meant 384MB RAM... | |
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| 05:43 | Maxie2012 | Hi! Apologies to anyone reading my query earlier on re setting up of VirtualBox....my internet connection dropped off! |
| 05:45 | eythian | Maxie2012: if you're setting it up for testing, that should be fine |
| 05:52 | @later tell tcohen I've found an issue on bug 8773, but I'm out of time to diagnose it today. Can you have a look, hopefully it's an easy fix. | |
| 05:52 | huginn | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:55 | fredericd | eythian: just leave a comment on bug 8773 |
| 05:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Failed QA , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 05:55 | fredericd | and see your bug report |
| 05:55 | Maxie2012 | great, thanks! |
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| 05:55 | eythian | fredericd: I did that too, it's just we were discussing it earlier today, so I figured I'd provide a headsup so he knew I wouldn't be able to look at it for a while. |
| 05:57 | Maxie2012 | I plan to install Debian Squeeze, which is Debian (64-bit) I'm assuming...and I guess 8GB virtual harddisk capacity is fine? |
| 05:57 | eythian | Maxie2012: I find 8GB can get a bit tight, I'd suggest 15. It depends on the size of your data though. |
| 06:00 | Maxie2012 | ya, I kinda felt it was a bit small...but I'm setting up VirtualBox for the first time and creating a new virtual machine, so it doesn't allow me to specify the size...guess there's another section to do that |
| 06:01 | eythian | It should ask you during the process of setting up the vm |
| 06:06 | fredericd: oh, I just saw your post. A patch that adds moose as an optional dep is actually in master now | |
| 06:06 | Maxie2012 | It just prompts me to select between 1. Do Not Add a virtual hard drive 2. Create a virtual hard drive now 3. Use an existing hard drive file |
| 06:07 | eythian | Maxie2012: yes, and if you create a new one it asks you for the size. |
| 06:07 | Maxie2012 | ...and there's a statement above the options saying that the Recommended Size of the Hard Drive is 8GB |
| 06:07 | eythian | fredericd: my plan is to add the indexing daemon as an optional dep, and when we get a feeling for what people think, we can consider pulling your daemon into Koha. |
| 06:09 | * eythian | is off home now. Bye all |
| 06:15 | Maxie2012 | thanks, but I just clicked on a Hide Description button and it allows me to specify the size of the hard drive! |
| 06:22 | Bye eythian | |
| 06:22 | fredericd | eythian: great. And thanks for your work. The new package for just the Koha dependencies is a big plus for me. |
| 06:23 | Maxie2012 | oh you're still there eythian! |
| 06:24 | can I ask you before you go home.....for the hard drive file type, is VDI or VMDK the better option? | |
| 06:24 | sorry to have to ask such BASIC questions | |
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| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:36 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:36 | wahanui | bonjour, alex_a |
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| 06:40 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
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| 06:51 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:51 | wahanui | bonjour, julian_m |
| 06:51 | asaurat | hi |
| 06:51 | wahanui | hi, asaurat |
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| 07:01 | matts | hi ! |
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| 07:05 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:05 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:05 | lds | hello |
| 07:05 | magnuse | winter came last night... |
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| 08:01 | fredericd | cait: hello |
| 08:01 | cait | hi fredericd :) |
| 08:01 | fredericd | cait: Is there a bug number for javascript strings non translatable? |
| 08:01 | cait | hm, I think we didn't have an omnibus patch in the past - but I might be wrong |
| 08:02 | I think most were on separate bugs | |
| 08:02 | fredericd | 'Add to cart' on OPAC result page is not translated |
| 08:02 | cait | oh, I thought it used to be |
| 08:02 | fredericd | Shouldn't we have such a bug number? |
| 08:02 | cait | did you try reloading the javascript? I sometimes had problems with scale files |
| 08:02 | fredericd | opac-results.tt line 126 |
| 08:02 | cait | I think we could have an omnibus bug |
| 08:05 | fredericd | bug 8968 |
| 08:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , JavaScript String not translatable |
| 08:09 | cait | :) |
| 08:09 | fredericd: have you seen the request for slovak as a new language on pootle? | |
| 08:10 | fredericd | no |
| 08:12 | cait | it's here: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]tober/001968.html |
| 08:12 | he writes he wants to contribute translated files - so it might be worth including them in 3.10 I think | |
| 08:13 | I mean it seems they are not just starting, but there is already work done | |
| 08:16 | I am not making much sense this morning :) | |
| 08:17 | Maxie2012 | Hi! |
| 08:31 | gerundio | good morning |
| 08:37 | slef | I misread that as "Bible AS Daily" |
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| 08:42 | Maxie2012 | I am trying to install the Debian Squeeze in VirtualBox, on my Windows 7 desktop PC. I have managed to install the VirtualBox and am now trying to download the Debian ISO file in order for me to install Koha |
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| 08:43 | Maxie2012 | Can someone advise me on where is the best place to go to for this...on the premise that I am on Windows 7....? |
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| 08:45 | slef | Maxie2012: wiki? |
| 08:45 | wahanui | rumour has it wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 08:45 | slef | Maxie2012: mailing lists? |
| 08:45 | wahanui | mailing lists are at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 08:46 | slef | Maxie2012: I've not used Windows much in years. I don't know if someone else awake here might have relevant experience. If not, try looking for a guide on the wiki or askingon the mailing lists or equivalent web forums. |
| 08:47 | Maxie2012 | I was actually looking for the site where I can download the Debian ISO so that I can install it via the VirtualBox |
| 08:48 | I found a link and it seems to have the ISO files for download, but there are 8 files of about 4GB each. Do I need to download ALL 8 files? | |
| 09:02 | slef | Maxie2012: I doubt it. I'd expect you could just download one of the mini-install ISOs. |
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| 09:02 | slef | Maxie2012: but I've not checked the VirtualBox installation instructions. |
| 09:03 | (where are they?) | |
| 09:04 | gerundio | Maxie2012, I think the correct link for the Debian download you're looking for is http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 09:05 | just choose one of them, 32 or 64 bit setup | |
| 09:05 | them follow these instructions in case you have any doubt: http://www.debian.org/releases[…]ble/installmanual | |
| 09:19 | Maxie2012, did those URLs help? | |
| 09:19 | Maxie2012 | Hi gerundio |
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| 09:20 | Maxie2012 | I decided to take your suggestion and try to install Koha within Windows |
| 09:21 | the URLs helped a lot...I managed to install VirtualBox! | |
| 09:24 | the thing is I'm now stuck on trying to download the Debian Squeeze ISO...I just managed to download a file from http://cdimage.debian.org/debi[…]ent/i386/iso-dvd/, but its in a WinZip file and I can Unzip it in Windows! | |
| 09:24 | I don't think I got the right link somehow....:( | |
| 09:25 | cait | Maxie2012: you don't unzip isos |
| 09:25 | ah | |
| 09:26 | Maxie2012 | ok...that explains it |
| 09:27 | cait | hm you should end up with a file that has a .iso ending |
| 09:27 | and then you use that with your virtualbox | |
| 09:27 | Maxie2012 | so what should I do? I only know Windows....help!! |
| 09:27 | cait | there are tutorials on the web |
| 09:27 | I would start for a basic virtualbox install linux thing and go from there once you get it running | |
| 09:27 | Maxie2012 | the problem is I've tried a few downloads today and none of them have a .iso ending |
| 09:28 | cait | you can then start to learn a bit about linux itself |
| 09:28 | Maxie2012 | what's a "basic virtualbox install linux thing"? |
| 09:28 | cait | just a tutorial that will guide you for installing something with virtualbox |
| 09:28 | I am sure there is a lot on google | |
| 09:29 | gerundio | Maxie2012, they might have .iso ending |
| 09:29 | the problem is that probably you have hidden extensions in your windows explorer | |
| 09:30 | do you see any endings (extensions) at all in any of your regular files? | |
| 09:31 | follow these instructions to deactivate the "Hide extensions for known file types" setting http://windows.microsoft.com/e[…]e-name-extensions | |
| 09:31 | hopefully you'll see that the file you've downloaded is indeed a .iso :D | |
| 09:32 | cait | gerundio: good idea :) |
| 09:33 | Maxie2012 | no...I have already deactivated the Hide extensions and no .iso... |
| 09:35 | gerundio: I'll try the links you mention and try again | |
| 09:36 | gerundio | so if the extensions aren't hidden, tell us, what is the complete filename you see? |
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| 09:40 | Maxie2012 | it comes out at ONE zipped file with no extension, but under the File Type description it says WinZip file.....debian-6.0.6-i386-DVD-1...it also has the WinZip icon beside the filename |
| 09:43 | cait | Maxie2012: winzip is not really a file format - it might be .iso is associated with the winzip software on your computer |
| 09:44 | Maxie2012 | oh so sorry!! I just realised I inactivated the wrong thing re the hidden extensions! |
| 09:49 | gerundio | Maxie2012, :) |
| 09:49 | cait, are you familiar with the Calendar tool in koha? | |
| 09:49 | Maxie2012 | I have a .iso file....but when I try to add the downloaded disk image boot on my virtual machine (Settings and Storage on VirtualBox), TWO messages appear saying "Failed to open the CD/DVD image" and "Could not get the storage format of the medium (VERR _NOT_SUPPORTED) |
| 09:50 | cait | hm a bit, but it depends what you want to know :) |
| 09:50 | gerundio | I'm trying to add repeatable holidays and I got a nasty error :| |
| 09:50 | cait | thre has been a lot of work done on hourly loans and related features -not so familiar with that yet |
| 09:50 | oh | |
| 09:50 | which version are you looking at? | |
| 09:50 | gerundio | 3.8 |
| 09:50 | let me paste the error, just a second | |
| 09:50 | cait | so what did you try and what happened? |
| 09:51 | pastebot | "gerundio" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Error while addind a repeatable holiday" (6 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250 |
| 09:51 | gerundio | I just tried addind the New Year's Day as a holiday |
| 09:51 | cait | did you click on "range" maybe? |
| 09:52 | gerundio | in January 1st 2013 |
| 09:52 | cait | you want single repeated holiday, there should be 2 options to choose from |
| 09:52 | gerundio | yes |
| 09:52 | my bad on choosing the wrong option | |
| 09:52 | cait | it shouldn't explode |
| 09:52 | gerundio | I missed the "Holiday repeated yearly on the same date." |
| 09:53 | but yes, it shouldn't throw that error | |
| 09:53 | cait | but you will be able to add holidays - which is good. but could you maybe file a bug too for the wrong behaviour? |
| 09:54 | gerundio | sure |
| 09:56 | I don't really know the severity you guys consider of each kind of bug | |
| 09:56 | in this case do you find it to be blocker? | |
| 09:57 | as it throws this kind of error | |
| 09:57 | or despite it, since is not a major feature, the severity should be lower than that? | |
| 09:57 | rangi | way lower than blocker |
| 09:57 | cait | hm normal I would think |
| 09:58 | rangi | yeah |
| 09:58 | blocker is only for something that would stop a release | |
| 09:58 | cait | like losing data |
| 10:03 | slef | Random aside: A bit disappointed yesterday to learn that there's a Big Ted, Hamble, Jemima and Humpty in Te Papa, which I didn't see when in NZ. |
| 10:04 | cait | I wish I knew what those things are :) |
| 10:04 | ... and wish even more that I had been to Te Papa! | |
| 10:05 | gerundio | cait, got it :) each software as its own bug severity rules |
| 10:05 | cait | probably :) |
| 10:05 | we should put some explanations somewhere easily accessible | |
| 10:05 | wiki. | |
| 10:05 | * cait | makes a note |
| 10:05 | gerundio | btw, the Component should be Tools, right? |
| 10:06 | cait, that's probably a good idea | |
| 10:06 | no matter the effort we put in documentation it never seems to be enough :| | |
| 10:07 | cait | gerundio: if there is none for calendar or holidays - then tools :) |
| 10:07 | gerundio: true, but we can't stop trying | |
| 10:13 | gerundio | bug 8969 |
| 10:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8969 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Error while adding a repeatable holiday on the tools Calendar |
| 10:21 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]idelines#Severity |
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| 10:26 | cait | cool, thx rangi |
| 10:33 | gerundio | cait, is there anyway in the koha admin interface to import serials for magazine publication for instance? |
| 10:33 | cait | sorry, gerundio - not sure I understand what you want to do |
| 10:34 | gerundio | ok, I'll try to explain it in more words :D |
| 10:34 | I imported some magazine records into my catalogue | |
| 10:35 | for this example lets say its has a weekly release since 1992 | |
| 10:35 | which means I have add around 1000 entries to the 'serial' table for that magazine | |
| 10:36 | right? | |
| 10:36 | cait | aah |
| 10:36 | ok | |
| 10:36 | I am afraid that's not an easy answer | |
| 10:36 | there is no iport script for serial issues | |
| 10:37 | every system deals with them differently | |
| 10:37 | gerundio | ok |
| 10:37 | so in my case I made a dump from an existing koha installation | |
| 10:37 | cait | there is the history table you can use for noting holdings before using the serials module |
| 10:37 | gerundio | made sure the biblionumber matched |
| 10:37 | cait | ah ok |
| 10:37 | I think maybe youmissed a table if it's not working? | |
| 10:37 | gerundio | but somehow the serial issues are not showing up in my new koha installation |
| 10:38 | cait | there are serials, subscriptions, something for the history and serialitems I think |
| 10:38 | the issues are linked to the subscription | |
| 10:39 | did you get the subsciptions? | |
| 10:39 | gerundio | btw, can it be related to zebra indexes not being up to date yet? |
| 10:39 | the origin subscriptions table is empty | |
| 10:39 | so I'm guessing that's not the case | |
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| 10:41 | cait | hm |
| 10:41 | are we talking about items in the items table | |
| 10:41 | or about entries in serials? | |
| 10:42 | what exactly did you do? :) | |
| 10:45 | gerundio | I import records for the 'serials' table |
| 10:47 | imported ^ | |
| 10:48 | I thought that the serials would 'auto-magically' show up in the respective biblio entries in OPAC | |
| 10:48 | since they are related by the biblionumber value for each record | |
| 10:48 | cait | gerundio: they are linked to subscriptions normally |
| 10:49 | I wonder how someone managed to add them to your old installation without | |
| 10:50 | see the subscriptionid is column 3 | |
| 10:50 | serialid - pk of the table, bilbionumber for the record and subscriptionid for the subscription | |
| 10:50 | you can only add them in the interface when you have a subscription - so if that table is empty on your other installation, something is wrong or someone changed how koha works | |
| 10:51 | gerundio | ok |
| 10:51 | subscriptionid is set to 2 | |
| 10:52 | but there's no record in the subscription table | |
| 10:52 | cait | ew |
| 10:52 | gerundio | not in my DB nor in the origin one |
| 10:52 | cait | and it does show up right on the previous opac? |
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| 10:52 | cait | i could imagine someone testing and not cleaning up properly too |
| 10:52 | gerundio | yet the series show up in the origin OPAC view |
| 10:52 | cait | can you share a link? |
| 10:53 | or as creenshot? | |
| 10:57 | gerundio | screenshot from the previous koha setup at http://i.imgur.com/atXvs.png |
| 10:57 | cait | gerundio: that's very werid |
| 10:57 | because you see it says: 1 subscription associated | |
| 10:57 | gerundio | cait, I can't share a link since the installations are still hidden behind firewall rules |
| 10:58 | cait | it looks perfectly normal for a filled subscriptions table |
| 10:58 | gerundio | I'm following you on that |
| 10:58 | weird indeed | |
| 10:58 | cait | on the page below should be links to other "views" of the serial data |
| 10:58 | gerundio | let me check a few other things and see if I come up with a reason for this behavior |
| 10:58 | cait | you should be able to see the subscription id in one of the views |
| 11:16 | gerundio | cait, my bad, the subscriptions table has records |
| 11:16 | explain later :) | |
| 11:17 | cait | ok - so that at least makes sense now :) |
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| 12:18 | cait | karam++ |
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| 12:26 | rjune | I'm trying to setup koha 4.10.05 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I ran perl Makefile.PL. and did the export for the environment variables. But when I run plackup /opt/koha/etc/app.psgi I get the error "Error while loading /opt/koha/etc/app.psgi: Can't locate Koha.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /opt/koha/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/ ..." Can anybody point me in the right direction |
| 12:27 | jcamins | rjune: this is a channel for Koha. |
| 12:27 | What you have is LibLime Koha. | |
| 12:27 | cait | good moring jcamins |
| 12:28 | rjune | jcamins, Koha the ILS right |
| 12:28 | cait | rjune: you can download Koha from koha-community.org |
| 12:28 | jcamins | rjune: yes. You can get Koha from koha-community.org. |
| 12:28 | rjune | LOL |
| 12:28 | jcamins | The software you download from koha.org is a proprietary fork that no one here supports. |
| 12:28 | cait | rjune: Liblime created a fork from koha that is only maintained by them - there is no community around it |
| 12:28 | the version numbering is confusing | |
| 12:28 | rjune | No worries. I wanted the community one. |
| 12:28 | cait | the current stable release of Koha is 3.8 - soon there will be 3.10 |
| 12:29 | download? | |
| 12:29 | packages? | |
| 12:29 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 12:29 | cait | and packages will ake your life easier :) |
| 12:29 | rjune | me likey packages |
| 12:29 | I really need to learn how to package debs | |
| 12:33 | jcamins | rjune: it's very easy. |
| 12:33 | rjune | yeah, played with it a bit, but I haven't really needed it yet. |
| 12:34 | I packaged quite a few rpms | |
| 12:34 | jcamins | We don't have any RPMs for Koha. |
| 12:34 | We'd love to, though. | |
| 12:34 | (hint hint) | |
| 12:35 | :) | |
| 12:35 | rjune | LOL |
| 12:35 | I'll have to setup a fedora vm to work on | |
| 12:37 | cait | rjune: where are you from? |
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| 12:47 | rjune | cait, Northern Indiana |
| 12:47 | magnuse | hiya talljoy |
| 12:48 | cait | ah |
| 12:48 | talljoy | hi magnuse |
| 12:48 | cait | Southern Germany |
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| 12:54 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 12:57 | rjune | cait, Wie gehts? |
| 12:58 | cait | gut, danke :) |
| 12:58 | hi gmcharlt :) | |
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| 12:59 | cait | and hi libsysguy |
| 13:00 | libsysguy | hey cait |
| 13:00 | sorry I missed you yesterday | |
| 13:00 | you said Hi and my internet dropped out | |
| 13:01 | cait | libsysguy: it's ok :) |
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| 13:03 | cait1 | hm |
| 13:03 | now mine dropped | |
| 13:03 | rjune | ok, I installed the packages. Where does it put it's apache config? |
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| 13:04 | jcamins | rjune: the usual place. /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 13:06 | rjune | jcamins, followed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages. Nothing with koha in /etc/apache2 anywhere |
| 13:06 | gerundio | from your experience what would you say is the best combo to get the most amount of covers in Koha? |
| 13:07 | jcamins | rjune: you should be following the instructions that cait pointed you to. |
| 13:07 | packages? | |
| 13:07 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 13:07 | gerundio | I activated the Google Books cover fetch and it's already showing up some results |
| 13:07 | jcamins | gerundio: it depends on your data. |
| 13:08 | gerundio | jcamins, are the various 3rd party services set to work in fail over? |
| 13:08 | rjune | jcamins, then the incorrect page should probably be removed. |
| 13:08 | jcamins | rjune: what are you trying to do? There shouldn't be any need to edit that. |
| 13:08 | rjune: it's correct for Lucid. | |
| 13:08 | However, I agree. | |
| 13:08 | gerundio: no. | |
| 13:10 | gerundio | ok, and is there any predefined order, alphabetical as shown in the admin interface maybe? |
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| 13:11 | cait1 | gerundio: they don't fall back, I think works probably best with only one activated |
| 13:11 | gerundio | ok cait1, thanks |
| 13:11 | rjune | jcamins, installing on precise. instructions are both very similar. One claims Debian, one Claims Ubuntu I went with the ubuntu ones |
| 13:12 | gerundio | AWS requires an API key, right? |
| 13:12 | jcamins | rjune: Lucid requires special instructions. |
| 13:12 | Precise and Debian are equivalent. | |
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| 13:12 | tcohen | morning #koha |
| 13:12 | cait1 | gerundio: you can get covers without I think, not sure, I would try it out |
| 13:13 | rjune | jcamins, can you see how I might have made that mistake? |
| 13:13 | jcamins | gerundio: you don't need an API key for covers. And if you enable more than one source, all will show up. |
| 13:13 | cait1 | gerundio: also try openlibrary |
| 13:13 | jcamins | rjune: oh, certainly. |
| 13:13 | * jcamins | has been arguing for removing most of the installation instructions for years. |
| 13:13 | thinks they serve no useful purpose. | |
| 13:15 | jcamins | Unfortunately, people with more time than I have disagree, and keep on adding new pages that confuse the matter. |
| 13:15 | * cait1 | hands jcamins a hot chocolate |
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| 13:17 | rjune | spiked with mint liquer |
| 13:17 | Installation instructions are great. | |
| 13:18 | but they have to be A) maintained. and B) complete | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | And C) comprehensible. |
| 13:19 | rjune | Like the debian instructions. "Creating the koha instance" here's the command to create it. Now go to the admin website |
| 13:19 | Which is stupid. | |
| 13:19 | oleonard | Lots of work has been done on the instructions over the last few months. Is it incomplete or ineffective? |
| 13:19 | vfernandes | hi guys... today happened one problem with one of my Koha instance... the items appears doesn't appear in the staff client record detail |
| 13:19 | rjune | oleonard, both |
| 13:19 | jcamins | oleonard: generally it has made it worse. |
| 13:20 | cait1 | speaking about it... we should probably revise the INSTALL files before release? |
| 13:20 | rjune | so where is the admin website? is it port 8080 someplace? is it something.domain |
| 13:20 | jcamins | rjune: it's whatever you set it to several steps before. |
| 13:20 | With /etc/koha/sites.conf or whatever it is. | |
| 13:21 | rjune | ok, so it should be http://koha-intra.DOMAIN/ as per the docs |
| 13:22 | vfernandes | anyone had this problem before? |
| 13:22 | cait1 | vfernandes: hm they don't appear on the detal page in staff? |
| 13:22 | and in opac they do? | |
| 13:23 | all items or only some? what has happened between them showing and them not showing? | |
| 13:23 | vfernandes | neither in OPAC |
| 13:23 | http://catalogo.biblioteca.isc[…]biblionumber=3185 | |
| 13:24 | should have 2 items | |
| 13:24 | jcamins | vfernandes: if I had to guess, I'd say you somehow managed to delete your items. |
| 13:24 | You're using 3.2, which means that items are stored in the MARC record. | |
| 13:25 | vfernandes | the records are in the MARC, i've checked the database are the items are also in the items table |
| 13:25 | cait1 | jcamins: I think the detail screens go back to the item tables - so maybe worth checking the database tables? |
| 13:25 | vfernandes | maybe a index problem? |
| 13:25 | jcamins | cait1: oh, true. |
| 13:25 | No, nothing to do with indexing. | |
| 13:25 | Indexing only affects search results. | |
| 13:26 | vfernandes | the items are in the database... i've already checked |
| 13:26 | cait1 | http://catalogo.biblioteca.isc[…]biblionumber=3185 |
| 13:26 | they are in the marc view | |
| 13:26 | did you set something in opachiddenitems maybe? | |
| 13:26 | or the parameter to hide damaged/lost items? | |
| 13:27 | vfernandes | i don't think so |
| 13:27 | yesterday was working fine | |
| 13:27 | and no configuration was changed | |
| 13:27 | jcamins | vfernandes: something must have changed. Any idea what it was? |
| 13:27 | cait1 | you could check action_logs if someone hcanged preferences since yesterday :) |
| 13:27 | jcamins | ^^ good idea |
| 13:28 | cait1 | vfernandes: hm this is unimarc, right? |
| 13:28 | vfernandes | yes |
| 13:28 | cait1 | yes, title in 200 |
| 13:29 | hm I owuld still think something like opachiddenitems | |
| 13:29 | there seems to be nothing in opacuserjs causing this, so it's koha somehow doing it | |
| 13:30 | vfernandes | the last change on system preferences was at 2012-07-16 |
| 13:30 | cait1 | ohhm. |
| 13:31 | jcamins: any other ideas? :( | |
| 13:31 | vfernandes | it looks like it's a mysql connection problem |
| 13:31 | cait1 | the result lists show the items too |
| 13:31 | vfernandes | the database is in another server |
| 13:32 | cait1 | and the marc views do |
| 13:32 | hm but there are other things pulled from the database | |
| 13:32 | that look ok | |
| 13:33 | jcamins | vfernandes: the whole record is getting pulled from the database. |
| 13:35 | jwagner | vfernandes, I see two items on that title |
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| 13:36 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 13:36 | @wunder Basel | |
| 13:36 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 14.1°C (3:32 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 13:37 | tcohen | fredericd, has something changed in latest koha-index-daemon that breaks it? |
| 13:38 | vfernandes | DBD::mysql:st execute failed |
| 13:39 | can't create/write to file '/var/tmp/mysql....' | |
| 13:39 | jcamins | vfernandes: your MySQL server is out of disk space. |
| 13:42 | vfernandes | ok... thanks. I don't have access to the mysql server... :/ |
| 13:42 | so I don't know the disk space left | |
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| 13:44 | jcamins | vfernandes: that's my guess based on the fact that MySQL can't write to disk. |
| 13:45 | I've had that happen before. | |
| 13:45 | If that's the case, you should shut it down _immediately_. | |
| 13:46 | Leaving it running will just make data corruption more likely. | |
| 13:49 | cait1 | hi mveron |
| 13:49 | mveron | Hi cait1 :-) |
| 13:50 | cait1 | :) |
| 14:06 | rjune | how do I tell koha to dump the default patron and library data? |
| 14:07 | cait1 | you can truncate the borrowers table |
| 14:07 | and the branches table after that I think | |
| 14:07 | or reinstall and don't install the sample data | |
| 14:07 | well some of it, but not those parts | |
| 14:07 | rjune | nmind, found it. |
| 14:07 | yeah. that's what I saw. missed that the first time | |
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| 14:16 | hdl | fredericd: around ? |
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| 14:18 | hdl | @later tell fredericd bug 7421 set to failed QA, things are not working at all the way it used to with grs1 indexing, maybe some pairing could speed things up |
| 14:18 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
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| 14:36 | hdl | hi libsysguy |
| 14:36 | libsysguy | sup hdl |
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| 14:37 | rjune | ok, does koha by default charge $5 to check out a book? |
| 14:37 | libsysguy | i don't think so |
| 14:37 | jcamins | rjune: I think there might be some sample data that adds that. |
| 14:38 | rjune: you can adjust it in the item types administration screen. | |
| 14:38 | rjune | jcamins, ah, where is that controlled? |
| 14:38 | fantastic, thanks | |
| 14:41 | Can Koha automatically pull covers from someplace, say amazon? or does that have to be done manually? | |
| 14:42 | drojf | it can pull covers from several places |
| 14:43 | local, amazon, google, openlibrary. i may have forgotten something | |
| 14:43 | rjune | where in the setup do I enable it? |
| 14:43 | drojf | enhanced content |
| 14:44 | rjune | administration->ehanced content? |
| 14:46 | drojf | i think so |
| 14:48 | rjune | found it. system prefs->enhanced content |
| 14:50 | thanks all | |
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| 14:52 | cait1 | wow |
| 14:52 | that was fast? | |
| 15:14 | jcamins | paul_p: are you able to import records using the staged MARC tools under Plack? |
| 15:16 | drojf | jcamins: i was |
| 15:16 | or | |
| 15:16 | sorry incoherent thinking :D | |
| 15:17 | ignore me, i am a confused person | |
| 15:18 | jcamins | drojf: you were? |
| 15:18 | Huh. | |
| 15:18 | cait1 | drojf: take a cookie |
| 15:18 | drojf | jcamins: i think i wasn't. but i am really not sure right now |
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| 15:19 | drojf | so just ignore me ;) |
| 15:19 | jcamins | drojf: ah. |
| 15:19 | drojf | i could try to do it when i'm home if that helps. i think i had problems and used apache to do that |
| 15:20 | cait1: cookies! :) | |
| 15:20 | jcamins | Nah, that's fine. I'll file a bug. |
| 15:22 | * jcamins | chuckles at his "bibliographic box of cereal" commit message. |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Yay, Bug 7067 passes QA! |
| 15:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7067 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Passed QA , allow patron self registration via the opac |
| 15:26 | cait1 | but we are in string freeze... |
| 15:27 | oleonard | It's marked version rel_3_12 |
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| 15:30 | koyauni | hi koha, does any one know why my search result give NO TITLE when list the search please? http://library.koyauniversity.[…]arch.pl?q=English |
| 15:39 | oleonard | No suggestions for koyauni? I have no idea. |
| 15:40 | gmcharlt | koyauni: at first glance it might be a defect in your MARC frameworks which somehow aren't mapping the 245$a to biblio.title |
| 15:40 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:40 | gmcharlt | that seems a little odd, though |
| 15:41 | jcamins | koyauni: try reindexing. |
| 15:41 | koha-rebuild-zebra --full library | |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | turning on the OPACXSLTResultsDisplay syspref would be another way of working around the problem |
| 15:41 | cait1 | it could also be that the wrong marc format is selected |
| 15:41 | because marc21 has title in 245$a and unimarc in 200$a | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I suspect the problem will still exist there. |
| 15:41 | cait1 | ah, but detail pages are correct |
| 15:42 | jcamins | This is probably the result of a Zebra configuration that was mangled. |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | cait1: yeah, but the author is being displayed correctly |
| 15:42 | cait1 | gmcharlt: you are right, and detail pages too |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | and opac-showmarc.pl in koyauni's catalog is showing MARC21 tagging |
| 15:42 | cait1 | yeah, so zebra? |
| 15:43 | jcamins | gmcharlt: the title thing happens if you've screwed up your indexes by manually editing them. |
| 15:43 | It's always just title. | |
| 15:47 | Sadly if a reindex doesn't fix it, I have no idea what the next step is. | |
| 15:48 | drojf | i'm sure you will figure it out |
| 15:48 | koyauni | I am re-indexing, but it use to work perfectly for Latin character I amnot sure what has happened |
| 15:49 | jcamins | drojf: not today I won't. |
| 15:49 | Something you changed caused problems. | |
| 15:49 | drojf | i migh guess "icu" |
| 15:49 | might | |
| 15:50 | koyauni | reindexing did not help, so I check other suggestion here, |
| 15:51 | where do I find this OPACXSLTResultsDisplay please | |
| 15:51 | gmcharlt | koyauni: it's one of the OPAC system preferences |
| 15:51 | you can change it in the staff interface by going to Administration | Global system preferences | |
| 15:55 | koyauni | is default OK as setting |
| 15:55 | for OPACXSLTResultsDisplay | |
| 15:56 | gmcharlt | koyauni: yep |
| 15:56 | koyauni | there we go it works now :) |
| 15:59 | I am still struggling with listing and indexing no Latin character in the search result, no one on the network seams to know how to fix it :( | |
| 16:02 | Oppes it worked at OPAC side but not in Admin side! | |
| 16:03 | Oak_ | @wunder dc |
| 16:03 | huginn | Oak_: The current temperature in Eckington Pl, NE, Washington, District of Columbia is 17.7°C (12:02 PM EDT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 30.23 in 1024 hPa (Rising). |
| 16:03 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 16:04 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 11.2°C (5:42 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:04 | Oak_ | @wunder konstanz |
| 16:04 | huginn | Oak_: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 9.3°C (6:00 PM CEST on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:04 | Oak_ | @wunder islamabad |
| 16:04 | huginn | Oak_: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 18.0°C (9:00 PM PKT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:04 | drojf | we will be getting frost this weekend. |
| 16:04 | Oak_ | :) |
| 16:05 | seasons! | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | @wunder 11375 |
| 16:05 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in APRSWXNET Jackson Heights NY US, Corona, New York is 15.0°C (11:42 AM EDT on October 25, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1025 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:05 | drojf | "APRSWXNET" sounds like a lovely place |
| 16:06 | jcamins | drojf: doesn't it? :) |
| 16:06 | Oak_ | how do you pronounce it? |
| 16:06 | oleonard | Just like it's spelled! |
| 16:08 | I assume it's this: http://www.findu.com/citizenweather/ | |
| 16:08 | drojf | "Automatic Position Reporting System as a WX NETwork" |
| 16:08 | wx? weather+x? | |
| 16:11 | * drojf | packs his stuff and wanders off |
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| 16:41 | oleonard | I'm sorely tempted to change the default sort on the hold queue report from patron to call number, considering the librarian would probably search for items by call number |
| 16:41 | Anyone have an opinion? | |
| 16:45 | I'm also planning to change the default staff client template background to hot pink with animated sparkles. | |
| 16:45 | Anyone have an opinion? | |
| 16:46 | Don't say I didn't warn you! | |
| 16:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8914: Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fac22a7eea6ecf77c> / Bug 8213 - "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c20afd383cca27de> / Question marks in series title facet links <http: |
| 16:49 | Oak_ | :) |
| 16:50 | as long as the animated sparkles are of rainbow colors i'm okay with it. | |
| 16:51 | anything more would be too much. | |
| 16:52 | and no more than 5 pictures of cats. | |
| 16:56 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #916 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:03 | cait1 | Oak_: but if it's kittens it can be more right? |
| 17:03 | because the cat weight matters? | |
| 17:03 | oleonard: I am all for hot pink with sprinkles | |
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| 17:58 | drojf | what a peaceful channel |
| 18:03 | cait1 | heh |
| 18:04 | * jcamins_away | readds the missing line. |
| 18:04 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #916: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/916/ |
| 18:04 | * mtompset: Bug 8910 - silent warnings triggered in about.pl | |
| 18:04 | * jcamins: Bug 8905: Error when accessing invalid authority | |
| 18:04 | * veron: Bug 8895 - Warning in systempreferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in length... | |
| 18:04 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8895 follow-up fix for Jonathan's QA comment | |
| 18:05 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 8234: fixes date sort on 'Transfers to receive' page | |
| 18:05 | * veron: Bug 8885 - OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9 | |
| 18:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8910 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , silent warnings triggered in about.pl |
| 18:05 | jenkins_koha | * koha: Question marks in series title facet links |
| 18:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8905 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when accessing invalid authority |
| 18:05 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 8213 - "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds waiting |
| 18:05 | * jcamins: Bug 8914: Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack | |
| 18:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8895 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Warning in systempreferences.pl: Use of uninitialized value in length... |
| 18:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8234 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Dates are not well sorted on Transfers to receive | |
| 18:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8885 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , OPAC with ccsr theme in IE9 | |
| 18:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8213 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , "Cancel All" button on holds over tab cancels both holds over and holds waiting | |
| 18:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8914 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Blank search that returns invalid authorities fails under Plack | |
| 18:34 | drojf | mveron++ |
| 18:47 | oleonard | Afternoon git dead zone. *yawn* |
| 18:47 | jcamins_away | oleonard: switch your computer to use git via http? |
| 18:47 | oleonard | It's okay, it's working again |
| 18:55 | Why doesn't the acquisitions process automatically fill in the vendor name in "source of acquisition"on the item record? | |
| 18:58 | nengard: When testing Bug 8676 what setting do you have for AcqCreateItem? | |
| 18:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8676 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , show vendor name in source of acquisition |
| 18:58 | nengard | when ordering |
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| 19:00 | rangi | morning |
| 19:01 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 19:01 | When adding an item upon ordering, why is there no relation between the "Cost, normal purchase price" field and the "vendor price" in accounting details? | |
| 19:02 | Or do I misunderstand how it works? | |
| 19:05 | rangi | i used to know how it worked, so many people have 'fixed' it since then, i have no idea anymore |
| 19:07 | oleonard | nengard: When you add items upon ordering the booksellerid column in items is automatically filled with the vendor id? |
| 19:08 | nengard | nope, only after you receive |
| 19:08 | when you receive the price, replacement price and vendor are filled in | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | Okay, but eventually you end up with a numeric value in items.booksellerid which corresponds to the vendor id? |
| 19:09 | nengard | the vendor id is entered when you receive ? sorry ? not the vendor name |
| 19:09 | the name is never entered in the holdings table | |
| 19:10 | oleonard | And items.booksellerid is a numeric value which corresponds to the vendor id? |
| 19:10 | nengard | i'm kind of jet lagged, but what I'm saying is that the vendor ID should be in the items table in the db - but the name should show in the staff client for those who don't memorize ids |
| 19:10 | yes, it is and it should be | |
| 19:12 | just like it shows the collection code description instead of the collection code | |
| 19:12 | and the lost description instead of the lost authorized value | |
| 19:12 | oleonard | What is to prevent someone from typing a vendor name into "e - Source of acquisition" when adding the item? |
| 19:13 | nengard | nothing |
| 19:13 | and there shouldn't be anything preventing that | |
| 19:13 | some people use it for things like 'gift' or 'donation' | |
| 19:13 | oleonard | Then how is Koha to know whether the value there is a vendor id or a text string which shouldn't be formatted? |
| 19:13 | nengard | good question |
| 19:13 | how does it know on the items tab | |
| 19:13 | oleonard | I assume it doesn't |
| 19:14 | nengard | see //cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/moredetail.pl?biblionumber=4 |
| 19:14 | it shows the name not the id | |
| 19:14 | that's what was confusing the libraries who asked me to report that | |
| 19:15 | oleonard | I can't follow that link nengard |
| 19:15 | nengard | hehe |
| 19:15 | i know that, i meant on your system - the items tab on the bib record ? i really shouldn't be talking today | |
| 19:18 | i think i need to go lay down ? and maybe tomorrow i can be clearer about what we're looking for | |
| 19:19 | oleonard | I see what you mean nengard |
| 19:19 | nengard | whew :) |
| 19:19 | oleonard | ...but that page pulls the vendor information directly from acquisitions tables based on the item number |
| 19:19 | nengard | i figured |
| 19:19 | oleonard | So it's not showing information based on items.booksellerid |
| 19:21 | nengard | so it's not possible |
| 19:23 | oleonard | I neither understand how your records are getting a vendor id into items.booksellerid or can imagine how you would accommodate manual entry in other cases |
| 19:23 | rangi | mtj: you could edit your reply to his reply too |
| 19:23 | you just sent a 38k mail :) | |
| 19:23 | oleonard | mtj: And revise the subject line? |
| 19:27 | mtj | yeah, i guess i was attempting to show by example, why its a bad thing to do |
| 19:28 | rangi | ahh, im not sure that will work |
| 19:28 | mtj | … but the subtlety of my point is probably lost |
| 19:28 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:28 | jcamins_away | Am I the only one who has absolutely no idea what that e-mail is about? |
| 19:28 | nengard | oleonard, i understand it all, but can't explain right now ;) |
| 19:28 | mtj | a failed reply, to a failed email |
| 19:28 | rangi | if you cut and paste 20 pages of herp derp |
| 19:28 | then it might work | |
| 19:28 | and probably make as much sense :) | |
| 19:28 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 19:30 | Why on earth does he change the subject to include the name of the person whose e-mail he is replying to? | |
| 19:31 | rangi | no idea |
| 19:31 | mtj | it is a bit of a fail to not edit the herp-derp in your email that asks someone to remove the herp-derp from their email |
| 19:31 | rangi | hehe yup :) |
| 19:31 | its going in my book :) | |
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| 19:32 | * jcamins_away | won't be responding to his messages because of the digest-quoting and changed subjects. |
| 19:32 | oleonard | Why on earth does someone assume that if you respond to their mailing list message you want to engage them personally in all future exchanges? People simply don't know how to use email. |
| 19:32 | jcamins_away | I'd never be able to follow the discussion. |
| 19:32 | oleonard: touche. | |
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| 19:33 | mtj | rangi, yeah , its a good one… AND CAN PEOPLE PLEASE STOP SHOUTING IN THIS #IRC CHANNEL! |
| 19:33 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 19:33 | oleonard | I'm lucky to have cut my mailing list teeth on a list which was run with an iron fist with regard to etiquette |
| 19:34 | Or maybe unlucky, since now all infractions bug me all the more | |
| 19:38 | mtj | oleonard, curious …. what was the list? |
| 19:38 | oleonard | Webdesign-L |
| 19:40 | mtj | ah, ok |
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| 19:41 | * jcamins_away | used e-mail before mail clients automatically hid quoted text. That pretty much taught a person not to include digests. |
| 19:41 | oleonard | Uh... You would think? But not in my experience. |
| 19:42 | jcamins_away | "Gee, I think I'd love to receive all of yesterday's messages tomorrow, too!" |
| 19:42 | * oleonard | would make the digest option die if he were king |
| 19:43 | oleonard | How can you properly reply to anything if you're subscribed to the digest? It should be read-only. |
| 19:43 | drojf | and an optional google group for digest readers!!1! |
| 19:44 | jcamins_away | drojf: yeah! That'd fix it! |
| 19:46 | oleonard | Gosh is there *anything* a Google Group can't fix? |
| 19:46 | jcamins_away | oleonard: nothing! |
| 19:46 | wahanui | nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 19:49 | oleonard | That was deep wahanui |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | the void? |
| 19:49 | drojf | windows 8 is only 30€. woohoo. bargain. |
| 19:49 | jcamins_away | abyss? |
| 19:49 | the abyss? | |
| 19:49 | Wahanui has something about the abyss staring back at you, but I don't know where. | |
| 19:49 | wahanui | jcamins_away: huh? |
| 19:50 | drojf | i thought that was MARC staring back at you when you look into it |
| 19:50 | MARC? | |
| 19:50 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | drojf: same thing. |
| 19:50 | @search stares | |
| 19:50 | huginn | jcamins_away: There were no matching configuration variables. |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | @quote get stare |
| 19:50 | huginn | jcamins_away: Error: 'stare' is not a valid id. |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | @quote search stare |
| 19:50 | huginn | jcamins_away: 1 found: #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21,..." |
| 19:50 | jcamins_away | @quote get 184 |
| 19:50 | huginn | jcamins_away: Quote #184: "slef: IF YOU STARE TOO DEEPLY INTO MARC21, MARC21 STARES BACK INTO YOU!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:58 PM, January 30, 2012) |
| 19:51 | jcamins_away | There we go. |
| 19:51 | * oleonard | is still perplexed by Bug 8710 |
| 19:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8710 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Do not show the images tab in the OPAC if the record has no local cover images |
| 19:52 | oleonard | sub ListImagesForBiblio returns undef if no images are found, but "$template->{VARS}->{localimages} = \@images;" is passing *something* to the template which is evaluating as true |
| 19:54 | jcamins_away | Hmm. |
| 19:54 | That's... | |
| 19:54 | weird. | |
| 19:54 | Check localimages.size? | |
| 19:55 | [% IF ( localimages.size ) %]? | |
| 19:55 | oleonard | localimages.size = 1 |
| 19:55 | jcamins_away | Really? |
| 19:55 | * oleonard | swears |
| 19:55 | jcamins_away | That's... |
| 19:56 | Really, really weird. | |
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| 20:02 | oleonard | Uh-yup. |
| 20:11 | jcamins_away: What about changing ListImagesForBiblio so that it returns @imagenumbers in all cases, rather than returning undef? | |
| 20:12 | I see other examples which simply "return $sth->fetchrow_hashref();" | |
| 20:12 | jcamins_away | oleonard: Makes sense to me. |
| 20:14 | oleonard: but fetchrow_hashref will only return a single image. | |
| 20:15 | oleonard | Sorry, bad example |
| 20:15 | * oleonard | will tinker more tomorrow |
| 20:15 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:15 | rangi | cya oleonard |
| 20:15 | cait1 | bye oleonard - have a nice evening |
| 21:08 | * rangi | giggles at bug 8972 |
| 21:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8972 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Due Date set to 100 years ago. |
| 21:09 | rangi | i vote we should make it set it 3000 years in the future instead |
| 21:09 | cait1 | :) |
| 21:09 | rangi | seriously there is no right answer except, use 4 digit years |
| 21:09 | anything else is a guess | |
| 21:10 | the computer cant possibly know what xx12 you mean | |
| 21:10 | cait1 | with the date picker there is no reason people should type |
| 21:10 | rangi | speed? |
| 21:10 | wahanui | hmmm... speed is important however. |
| 21:11 | cait1 | hm not sure it's really faster |
| 21:11 | rangi | probably not |
| 21:11 | ibeardslee | yeah unless they are tabbing and typing |
| 21:11 | cait1 | not with the / |
| 21:11 | rangi | so ppl are allergic to mice |
| 21:11 | so=some | |
| 21:19 | magnuse | jcamins_away: too away for a quick question? |
| 21:20 | ok, i'll try again tomorrow | |
| 21:20 | have fun, #koha! | |
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| 21:33 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 21:38 | slef | wahanui: windows 8? |
| 21:38 | wahanui | windows 8 is, like, due in a few days. cool. may it bring us lots of new linux users :) |
| 21:39 | cait1 | no kebabs tonight? |
| 21:40 | eythian | hi |
| 21:40 | cait1 | hi eythian :) |
| 21:46 | edveal left #koha | |
| 22:08 | cait1 | @wunder Konstanz |
| 22:08 | huginn | cait1: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 9.0°C (12:00 AM CEST on October 26, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 22:36 | eythian | http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/3724 <-- First annual "Just Solve The Problem" month. This year, file-formats. |
| 22:39 | rangi | http://www.stuff.co.nz/enterta[…]veiled-at-airport |
| 22:42 | mveron | @wunder Allschwil |
| 22:42 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Basel, Switzerland is 9.7°C (12:40 AM CEST on October 26, 2012). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Falling). |
| 23:28 | mveron | Good night #koha |
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