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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 01:13 | mtj | rangi -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_SQO3vv3p8 |
| 01:19 | rangi | 2 new patches on bug 3652 for signoff |
| 01:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 02:03 | rangi | mtj: checkout out bug 8701 |
| 02:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8701 normal, P5 - low, ---, sandbergja, Needs Signoff , Help for OpacHiddenItems pref should not point to text in install directory |
| 02:03 | rangi | hmm -out |
| 02:04 | jcamins_away | Wow. |
| 02:05 | 8MB/s download speeds are really nice. | |
| 02:05 | Makes downloading OS upgrades a lot less painful. | |
| 02:06 | mtj | rangi, ta |
| 02:07 | rangi | im not sure where she is from, but want to encourage her |
| 02:10 | zemkat joined #koha | |
| 02:24 | user110 | Jane Sandberg is the director of Information Technology for Tap In Leadership Academy. Currently a graduate student and Mix IT Up! fellow at the University of Illinois' Graduate School of Library and Information Science, |
| 02:24 | http://wiki.tapinacademy.org/i[…]mation_technology | |
| 02:25 | rangi | stalker :) |
| 02:26 | user110 | me? na, google |
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| 02:35 | user110 | cool, we're back |
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| 02:59 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 03:00 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:15 | BobB joined #koha | |
| 03:19 | mtompset | Greetings, BobB. :) |
| 03:22 | BobB | hi mtompset |
| 03:24 | Mark are you in NZ? | |
| 03:34 | mtompset | No, I'm in the Philippines. |
| 03:34 | Sorry for the slow response. | |
| 03:46 | Lunch! :) | |
| 05:19 | BobB | mtompset, I also slipped away, sorry. |
| 05:19 | mtompset | Not a problem. |
| 05:19 | BobB | The Phillipines, wow! Strong support for Koha there. |
| 05:27 | mtompset | Not necessarily the most current versions, but yes. |
| 05:33 | We're using the most current version, however. :) | |
| 05:34 | cait joined #koha | |
| 05:52 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 05:53 | hiya mtompset and BobB | |
| 05:53 | mtompset | Greetings, magnuse. |
| 05:53 | BobB | Hi magnuse |
| 05:53 | Hi Cait | |
| 05:54 | Oh, bye cait, she joiined and left again. :) | |
| 05:55 | magnuse | yeah, that was quick |
| 05:55 | how's oz these days, BobB? | |
| 05:57 | BobB | Its great magnuse, 3.5% GDP growth, 5% unemployment, 2% inflation, strong currency and everyone hates the government. |
| 05:57 | I have to say I don't really get it. | |
| 05:57 | magnuse | wow, those are good numbers |
| 05:58 | i think it's part of being human... | |
| 05:58 | BobB | How is the young one Magnus? |
| 05:58 | magnuse | we have something of the same here |
| 05:58 | oh doing good! eating, sleeping, growing | |
| 05:58 | mtompset | That's a really low unemployment rate! |
| 05:58 | magnuse | something new every day |
| 05:59 | BobB | Yes, they grow quickly. They don't stay babies for long. Enjoy this time! |
| 05:59 | magnuse | will do! it's so good to work from home and have him around all the time |
| 06:00 | BobB | :) |
| 06:00 | mtompset | @later tell jcamins http://media-cache1.pinterest.[…]35_qWntZ387_f.jpg -- Upside down muffin pans make cookie bowls! |
| 06:00 | huginn | mtompset: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:04 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:07 | mtompset | Greetings, cait. |
| 06:08 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 06:08 | cait | good morning mtompset and magnuse :) |
| 06:09 | mtompset | Where's, drojf? Wanted to share the cookie bowl picture I found. |
| 06:16 | rangi | evening |
| 06:18 | cait | hi rangi |
| 06:22 | mtompset | Greetings, rangi. |
| 06:24 | magnuse | kia ora rangi |
| 06:24 | mtompset | Hmmm... silent warnings in the error log files over adding a new member. Guess it's time to try this in my test environment. |
| 06:28 | rangi | bug 3652 |
| 06:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 06:28 | rangi | 2 new vulnerabilities found and patched if someone has time to sign off |
| 06:34 | mtompset | What does |html do? |
| 06:35 | rangi | what would you guess it does? |
| 06:35 | cait | magnuse: I am on 3652 |
| 06:35 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 06:35 | mtompset | pipes output through a script called html? |
| 06:36 | rangi | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]html#section_html |
| 06:36 | magnuse | mtompset: http://www.template-toolkit.or[…]html#section_html |
| 06:36 | gah! | |
| 06:36 | mtompset | someone owes someone a coke somehow. ;) |
| 06:36 | cait | eek |
| 06:36 | * magnuse | owes rangi a lot already :-) |
| 06:36 | cait | not it started raining again |
| 06:37 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:37 | cait | now... |
| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | cait | ok |
| 06:37 | confirmed bug | |
| 06:37 | rangi | cool |
| 06:38 | mtompset | BTW, I just noticed a typo in the page-numbers.inc diff... |htm l |
| 06:38 | cait | hm |
| 06:38 | after applying the patch | |
| 06:38 | I reloaded the page | |
| 06:38 | and changed pages | |
| 06:39 | to test it still works | |
| 06:39 | on page 3 I got: | |
| 06:39 | Template process failed: undef error - htm: filter not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 132. | |
| 06:39 | rangi | thats the type |
| 06:39 | mtompset | That's the typo I just mentioned. ;) |
| 06:39 | rangi | typo, can you just fix it |
| 06:39 | cait | ah |
| 06:39 | ok | |
| 06:39 | will check | |
| 06:39 | rangi | and sign off the fixed one |
| 06:39 | thanks | |
| 06:41 | cait | fixed |
| 06:41 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 06:41 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 6.8°C (8:41 AM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 06:41 | mtompset | drojf! |
| 06:42 | drojf | eek |
| 06:42 | can i work from home please? from my bed? | |
| 06:42 | mtompset! | |
| 06:42 | wahanui | mtompset is probably working on the ultimate koha uninstall script for fun. Bug 459. Old school, baby! |
| 06:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script |
| 06:42 | mtompset | wahanui: forget mtompset |
| 06:42 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot mtompset |
| 06:42 | mtompset | I'll need to come up with something better later. |
| 06:42 | http://media-cache1.pinterest.[…]35_qWntZ387_f.jpg | |
| 06:43 | Upside down pans to make cookie bowls! | |
| 06:43 | drojf | cool. i say we use them to put cookies inside |
| 06:43 | mtompset | No, the muffin pans... upside down. |
| 06:43 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:43 | cait | there you go |
| 06:43 | all done | |
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| 06:44 | cait | drojf: can I copy your application to work from bed? |
| 06:44 | it started raining heavily again | |
| 06:44 | drojf | sure :) |
| 06:44 | * cait | blames rangi for making her sign offon patches |
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| 06:47 | mtompset | cait... can't we "blame it on the rain... Gotta blame it on somethin'." ;) |
| 06:47 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 06:48 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 13.2°C (8:45 AM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 06:48 | cait | mtompset: but it's more fun when rangi brings me chocolate to next kohacon :) |
| 06:48 | cait left #koha | |
| 06:49 | mtompset | But you are such a nice, likeable person, wouldn't he do that normally? :) |
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| 06:55 | mveron joined #koha | |
| 06:55 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
| 07:04 | rangi | hi mveron |
| 07:04 | mveron | hi rangi |
| 07:06 | * mveron | will travel to Frankfurt Book Fair this week, guest of honour is New Zealand: http://www.buchmesse.de/en/guestofhonour/ |
| 07:07 | rangi | ahh cool |
| 07:12 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:15 | kf joined #koha | |
| 07:16 | magnuse | wb kf |
| 07:16 | kf | thx magnuse .) |
| 07:17 | rangi | hi kf |
| 07:17 | paul_p joined #koha | |
| 07:17 | magnuse | kia ora paul_p! |
| 07:18 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 07:18 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 07:18 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:19 | wahanui | hello, gaetan_B |
| 07:23 | mtompset | Hmmm... is there a patch or system preference for the sort order on dates for reports? |
| 07:25 | kf | ? |
| 07:25 | mtompset | Hmmm... that's a bizarre case, dateformat = dd/mm/yyyy sorts wrong, but yyyy/mm/dd sorts right. |
| 07:26 | "wrong" in the want it to sort the same as yyyy/mm/dd | |
| 07:26 | rangi | any qa people in the house? |
| 07:28 | kf | mtompset: not so bizarre I think |
| 07:28 | it's probably missing the magic to make it sort right for different date formats | |
| 07:28 | you coudl report a bug for that | |
| 07:29 | although I am not sure where you are seeing this? | |
| 07:29 | mtompset | Saved Reports |
| 07:29 | We have a whole bunch of them. | |
| 07:29 | Each has a date. | |
| 07:29 | kf | ah yes |
| 07:29 | mtompset | In the list of them. |
| 07:29 | kf | I woudl say file a bug |
| 07:30 | not sure which table sorter is used for that page at the moment | |
| 07:30 | mtompset | If you sort on the date... it sorts "wrong" for non-yyyy-mm-dd layout. |
| 07:30 | kf | yes |
| 07:30 | because the other date formats can't be sorted alphabetically | |
| 07:30 | you need a different logic | |
| 07:30 | mtompset | Right. |
| 07:35 | jquery tablesorter. | |
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| 07:37 | mtompset | I'm wondering if this is part of the rabbit hole that libsysguy feels like he's fallen down. |
| 07:49 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 07:49 | magnuse | o/ |
| 07:50 | druthb | Hi magnus. |
| 07:56 | magnuse | hiya druthb |
| 08:21 | lamiette joined #koha | |
| 08:36 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins |
| 08:36 | jcamins | The problem with using a crockpot to cook delicious meals overnight is that when you wake up at 4:30 it smells SO GOOD that you can't fall back asleep 'cause you're hungry. |
| 08:36 | Good morning. | |
| 08:37 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 08:38 | mtompset | I didn't know if I was going to be around to tell you about the cookie bowl idea I found. |
| 08:38 | jcamins | My muffin tins wouldn't be so good for that. |
| 08:38 | kf | jcamins: what did you make? |
| 08:39 | jcamins | They have very straight sides. |
| 08:39 | Shari made kielbasa with sauerkraut and apples. | |
| 08:40 | magnuse | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kielbasa ? |
| 08:41 | kf | so you cooked the sauerkraut in there? |
| 08:41 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 08:41 | (to both questions) | |
| 08:41 | kf | :) |
| 08:43 | * magnuse | gets hungry |
| 08:52 | WaqarAzeem | Please someone with wiki administrative rigths can delet this image http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ataModelv3.08.png - this link is appearing on Category:Development as i have attached it to the category. |
| 09:15 | paul_p1 | WaqarAzeem: doing it now |
| 09:16 | WaqarAzeem: done | |
| 09:22 | WaqarAzeem | thanks |
| 09:22 | lamiette left #koha | |
| 09:22 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 09:30 | WaqarAzeem | paul_p1: somehow it's still appearing in breadcrumb at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]egory:Development |
| 09:30 | magnuse | WaqarAzeem: i think that is because the breadcrumbs remember pages you have visited |
| 09:31 | WaqarAzeem | Ok |
| 09:33 | paul_p1 | WaqarAzeem: I confirm what magnuse says: I don't see it |
| 09:34 | slef | wahanui: SMIDSY |
| 09:34 | wahanui | slef: sorry... |
| 09:34 | slef | wahanui: SMIDSY is Sorry, Mate, I Didn't See You! |
| 09:34 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 09:35 | mtompset | DM? |
| 09:36 | The thumbnail isn't called the same thing, WaqarAzeem. | |
| 09:36 | It's Kohastructure.png | |
| 09:37 | magnuse | [slef] yup, got some weird messages |
| 09:38 | lol, should i just go back to sleep? | |
| 09:41 | mtompset | Nope. You're awake. Try to be productive. :) |
| 09:43 | magnuse | will do! |
| 09:51 | jcamins | Well... I'm not sure this is a good sign. |
| 09:52 | I got Plack running... it gives me a stack trace. | |
| 09:55 | slef: you can't use [off] and @later | |
| 09:55 | slef | wahanui: you suck |
| 09:55 | wahanui | slef: i'm not following you... |
| 09:55 | slef | wahanui: clearly |
| 09:55 | wahanui | slef: huh? |
| 09:55 | kf | slef: you can tell huginn directly in a pm |
| 09:56 | slef | oh yeah, it's huginn's fault |
| 09:56 | kf | hm wahahui |
| 09:56 | slef | no huginn |
| 09:56 | supybot | |
| 09:56 | jcamins | I got the system maintenance page. |
| 09:56 | Yay! | |
| 09:56 | kf | slef: I id |
| 09:56 | slef | kf: me2 |
| 09:56 | kf | I did it, got a success message |
| 09:56 | slef | he'll be spammed in reply :) |
| 09:56 | kf | ok :) so that shoudl hopefully work |
| 09:56 | but he has to say something here first | |
| 09:57 | so maybe a mail would be better | |
| 09:57 | I am writing him one | |
| 09:57 | slef | I don't have his mail handy. |
| 09:57 | ok thanks. | |
| 09:58 | kf | done |
| 10:05 | mtompset | Actually, you can privately message wahanui with the @later. I don't think that gets logged, slef. |
| 10:05 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 10:05 | Plack is working! | |
| 10:06 | drojf | why wouldn't it? |
| 10:06 | kf | jcamins: hope you made notes :) |
| 10:06 | guess I will need one server running plack in the future | |
| 10:07 | jcamins | drojf: because I decided I didn't like dpavlin's suggested configuration and am doing a creative new configuration. |
| 10:07 | Unfortunately, it's getting tetchy about listening only on a socket. | |
| 10:07 | drojf | i added some info for minimal plack configuration to the wiki some days ago if that helps anyone |
| 10:07 | jcamins | I saw. |
| 10:07 | I didn't realize that was you. | |
| 10:07 | drojf++ | |
| 10:08 | drojf | \o/ |
| 10:08 | jcamins | That's what I started with. |
| 10:08 | slef | mtompset: huginn ITYM |
| 10:08 | jcamins | Then things started getting wacky. |
| 10:08 | mtompset | ITYM? |
| 10:08 | wahanui | it has been said that ITYM is I Think You Mean |
| 10:09 | mtompset | Same diff. :P But probably. :) |
| 10:09 | Good thing you are telling wahanui your slef-isms. :) | |
| 10:09 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 10:09 | Starman will listen on a socket. | |
| 10:10 | drojf | cool. starman is on my todo-pile |
| 10:10 | jcamins | (without also listening on a port) |
| 10:10 | Now, nginx. | |
| 10:10 | * mtompset | can feel the techy-success through IRC. |
| 10:10 | jcamins | drojf: don't suppose you have a minimal nginx configuration? |
| 10:10 | mtompset | Are you doing a little success dance too, jcamins? ;) |
| 10:10 | jcamins | mtompset: no, but I'm bouncing on my exercise ball. |
| 10:11 | drojf | jcamins: not yet ;) |
| 10:11 | jcamins | I think I'd like those debug panes, too... |
| 10:12 | drojf | the debug stuff is fancy but requires a lot of perl module building |
| 10:16 | jcamins | I decided to use Ubuntu, even though I don't like it so much, because more of the modules are available. |
| 10:16 | Oh, that was a dumb way to do things. | |
| 10:16 | Well, my Plack config worked until I decided just now to redo it. | |
| 10:19 | drojf | you mean, my part worked? :P |
| 10:19 | jcamins | It did, but I was celebrating when my modifications worked. |
| 10:19 | I just modified it again. | |
| 10:20 | Huh. And my changes worked, so far. | |
| 10:37 | Hm. | |
| 10:37 | Looks like no one pointed out to me that the dropdowns couldn't be translated, either. | |
| 10:37 | kf | lunch time |
| 10:37 | jcamins | Not that I see how it would be possible. |
| 10:37 | kf_lunch | oh |
| 10:37 | which drop downs? | |
| 10:38 | and I will ignore that until after lunch | |
| 10:39 | jcamins | Authorities. |
| 10:47 | Cool, nginx+plack is fully functional. | |
| 10:48 | Well, sans nifty debug panels. | |
| 10:48 | And automatically starting on boot. | |
| 10:49 | And data. | |
| 10:50 | drojf | huh? |
| 10:51 | jcamins | I have my server running nginx and Plack, with the following problems: no nifty debug panels, Plack doesn't start on boot, and there's no data. |
| 10:53 | magnuse | are they just running or are they running koha? |
| 10:53 | jcamins | lol |
| 10:53 | Running Koha. | |
| 10:53 | magnuse | yay! |
| 10:55 | jcamins | Well, hm. |
| 10:55 | dh-make-perl does not do what I was expecting it to under Ubuntu. | |
| 10:55 | magnuse | make coffee? |
| 10:55 | jcamins | Make a Debian package. |
| 10:56 | drojf | what does it do instead? |
| 10:56 | jcamins | Generate a local Perl environment. |
| 10:57 | I can work with that, though, I think. | |
| 10:58 | That first time you hit Plack, it's quite slow, I have observed. | |
| 10:59 | magnuse | hehe: "Using this program is no excuse for not reading the debian developer documentation" |
| 10:59 | jcamins | I think perhaps my daemon startup script needs to request something when it starts. |
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| 11:01 | mtompset | I dislike ubuntu's two ways of doing init scripts. |
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| 11:02 | drojf | jcamins: i remember that the last time i wanted to use dh-make-perl it did something like that too. before it just built .debs |
| 11:03 | jcamins | Okay... I thought the panels were more attractive. |
| 11:03 | And less intrusive. | |
| 11:03 | drojf | heh |
| 11:05 | jcamins | Oh-ho. |
| 11:05 | drojf | maybe i skipped the cool stuff that makes it fast in my minimal guide |
| 11:05 | jcamins | It's nginx. |
| 11:05 | drojf | ;) |
| 11:06 | jcamins | drojf: no, after the initial hit it's blazing fast. |
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| 11:16 | jcamins | 404 Not Found... why? |
| 11:18 | kf | jcamins: that's because the name is in the sql files I think - for the drop downs |
| 11:19 | jcamins | kf: yeah, I guess that's not very fixable, is it? |
| 11:20 | kf | hm |
| 11:20 | not really | |
| 11:20 | well not if you want it multilingual | |
| 11:20 | but you could give your frameworks translated names and create translates sql files | |
| 11:21 | mtompset | ewwww! |
| 11:21 | kf | mtompset: it's like things are. |
| 11:21 | and it's common to have a set of sample data for various languages in KOha - this is only a side effect of that | |
| 11:27 | mtompset | Having sample data for various languages - good. What that sounds like - bad. |
| 11:29 | jcamins | Guess I'll have to do without the debug panels. |
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| 11:34 | * jcamins | does not like doing without the debug panels. |
| 11:34 | kf | mtompset: you can add frameworks yourself - they are user generated content |
| 11:35 | mtompset: there is no way to have mulitple language support for database values right now | |
| 11:35 | the only thing that can be fixed is the "default2 for the standard framework | |
| 11:38 | magnuse | when 3.10 is out we should do a "close pushed bugs" day, i think... |
| 11:38 | kf | yep |
| 11:38 | I agree | |
| 11:38 | clean start for 3.12 | |
| 11:38 | jcamins: what do you think? | |
| 11:39 | jcamins | +1 |
| 11:40 | magnuse | hm, will that mess things up for the rmaint? |
| 11:40 | close "pushed to stable" first, perhaps? | |
| 11:40 | kf | magnuse: btw why are you not there to be a bug wrangler, hm? :) |
| 11:41 | because apparently you care for the bugs :) | |
| 11:42 | magnuse | yeah, but i will have so little time for them in the next half year, if things go to plan |
| 11:43 | so i'd rather do what i can, without promising to do anything in particular | |
| 11:44 | wow, 557 bugs are pushed to master, 466 pushed to stable | |
| 11:44 | kf | not too bad |
| 11:46 | magnuse | but that's ~1000 bugs that should be closed, or am i thinking about it wrong? |
| 11:46 | jcamins | No, you are right. |
| 11:46 | magnuse | or at least marked as resolved fixed |
| 11:47 | &cumulate=0&y_axis_field=bug_status&action=wrap&format=bar&width=1300&height=350 all the statuses | |
| 11:48 | kf | paste? |
| 11:48 | wahanui | paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 11:48 | kf | bugzilla needs a way to shorten the urls |
| 11:49 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "graph of all statuses" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/223 |
| 11:49 | magnuse | good idea(s) kf |
| 11:51 | kf | lots of new bugs too |
| 11:51 | maybe some of them could be assigned | |
| 11:55 | jcamins | I'm not sure that "Default" is translatable for MARC21 authorities. |
| 11:56 | kf | every time I close a ticket today, a new ticket comes in.... |
| 11:56 | jcamins: it's from the templates | |
| 11:56 | we did a trick here for bibliographic | |
| 11:56 | if something = default %]Default[% or so | |
| 11:57 | jcamins | Oh, I see. |
| 12:06 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "graph: severity of NEW bugs" (1 line) at http://paste.koha-community.org/224 |
| 12:08 | kf | hm are those only the open bugs magnuse? |
| 12:08 | hm yeah must be :) | |
| 12:08 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 12:08 | kf | I don't like the 30 critical |
| 12:08 | jcamins | I got the debug panel working! |
| 12:08 | kf | yay :) |
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| 12:11 | mtompset | 30 critical bugs?! |
| 12:15 | But yes, 8332 is yours, kf. ;) | |
| 12:15 | I mean 8832. | |
| 12:15 | kf | bug 8332 |
| 12:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8332 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Add relationships to auth_finder for authority links |
| 12:16 | kf | hm? |
| 12:16 | magnuse | kf: it should be only NEW bugs, not assigned or anything |
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| 12:17 | mtompset | bug 8832 |
| 12:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8832 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , can't enter a tax rate on vendor or when ordering |
| 12:17 | magnuse | jcamins: you are putting your cool findings on the wiki, right? ;-) |
| 12:17 | mtompset | Sorry 8332 was a typo on my part. |
| 12:18 | Greetings, oleonard. | |
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| 12:20 | tcohen | @wunder Cordoba, Argentina |
| 12:20 | huginn | tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 14.0°C (9:00 AM ART on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Rising). |
| 12:20 | mtompset | greetings, tcohen. |
| 12:20 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 12:21 | mtompset | I've never seen so much red before. I guess I never searched for critical or blockers before. |
| 12:21 | tcohen | he he |
| 12:24 | mtompset | Severity: blocker, critical Status: UNCONFIRMED, NEW, REOPENED, ASSIGNED, In Discussion, Needs Signoff, Failed QA, VERIFIED -- 49 bugs |
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| 12:28 | mtompset | Thankfully, 5 are fixed. :) -- 1 failed. :( -- 2 need signoff. :) -- 9 assigned and in discussion -- plus the 32 which are new, 2 of which are blocker (that leave the 30 which kf was likely referring to before) |
| 12:30 | jcamins | Okay, I need to enable NYTProf only when a parameter is set. |
| 12:30 | Tricky. | |
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| 12:33 | mtompset | a profiler? How are you using it? |
| 12:33 | jcamins | With Plack. |
| 12:34 | The question is whether there's any way I can prevent it running all the time, 'cause it's slow. | |
| 12:34 | mtompset | Ah, to generate comparative numbers with plack on and off? |
| 12:34 | jcamins | No. |
| 12:34 | I don't care how much faster Plack is than Apache. | |
| 12:35 | I often profile my code. | |
| 12:37 | mtompset | How about an ugly solution of a script wrapper? |
| 12:38 | jcamins | That wouldn't help. |
| 12:38 | I'm using Plack. | |
| 12:38 | That's how I do it with Apache. | |
| 12:38 | I think I found the way to do it. | |
| 12:39 | Oh, no, that won't work. | |
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| 12:40 | jcamins | Oh well. Guess I'll have to uncomment the NYTProf block when I want to profile code. |
| 12:41 | drojf | how fast is that on a normal machine? it was unbearably slow on the raspberry pi |
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| 12:42 | jcamins | drojf: the maintenance page takes .25s. |
| 12:42 | For the first load. | |
| 12:42 | * jcamins | refreshes. |
| 12:42 | jcamins | .08 for the second. |
| 12:42 | * jcamins | still doesn't have any data. |
| 12:43 | drojf | with NYTProf running? wow, i did not expect that. i think it took minutes on the pi :D |
| 12:44 | jcamins | No, this is with NYTProf disabled. |
| 12:45 | With NYTProf enabled, it takes 2.5s. | |
| 12:46 | drojf | ah, that makes more sense |
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| 13:03 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 13:04 | jcamins | clrh++ |
| 13:05 | clrh | ^ ^ I say nothing here for some days but thanks, for the blog post I suppose ? |
| 13:05 | jcamins | Yup. :) |
| 13:05 | kf | :) |
| 13:05 | clrh++ | |
| 13:12 | mtompset | Such a pretty graph going down. :) |
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| 13:20 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hours), everyone. Bye, #koha. :) |
| 13:21 | magnuse | clrh++ |
| 13:22 | jcamins | Okay, I definitely need some data. |
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| 13:49 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:53 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 13:54 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 13:54 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 13:54 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 13:55 | kf | rain... is an understatement |
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| 14:14 | slef | kf: Conditions: Underwater.? |
| 14:15 | kf | cöpse |
| 14:15 | close | |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 14:15 | kf | lol - typing with 10 fingers only works right when you have your hands in the right position :) |
| 14:15 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 10.8°C (9:14 AM CDT on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 14:15 | paul_p | @wunder Marseille |
| 14:15 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 27.0°C (4:00 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | chillyish, but pretty. |
| 14:15 | it's nice in marseille though :) | |
| 14:15 | paul_p | wizzyrea: come to see us :D |
| 14:16 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 14:16 | drojf | wow the frenchies still got summer |
| 14:16 | paul_p | my wife and son went to the beach last sunday, and ... swimmed ;-) |
| 14:16 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 14:16 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Pankow, Weissensee, Germany is 12.9°C (4:16 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 57%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:16 | paul_p | drojf: not all frenchies, but in south, it's a very nice beginning of automn |
| 14:16 | * paul_p | head to QA& push patches... |
| 14:17 | drojf | @wunder munich, germany |
| 14:17 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Munich, Germany is 14.0°C (3:50 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:17 | drojf | it's over in southern germany |
| 14:17 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
| 14:17 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is 8.9°C (10:17 AM EDT on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 14:18 | drojf | no summer for "the other frenchies" *hides* |
| 14:18 | maximep | well it's almost summer. Really a great day here =) |
| 14:19 | drojf | ok your definition of summer may be different ;) |
| 14:19 | kf | drojf: munich? |
| 14:20 | maximep | well let's just say that beach are closed :p |
| 14:21 | drojf | kf: bavaria had 24° not long ago. i'm not in munich and not planning to go |
| 14:21 | kf | ah |
| 14:21 | ah well | |
| 14:21 | the octoberfest is over anyway ;) | |
| 14:21 | cait? | |
| 14:21 | wahanui | i guess cait is in Munich in a Dirndl |
| 14:21 | kf | forget cait |
| 14:21 | wahanui | kf: I forgot cait |
| 14:21 | drojf | lol i would never go there |
| 14:21 | ok i would to see you in a dirndl | |
| 14:21 | lol | |
| 14:21 | kf | wahanui: cait doesn't own a Dirndl and is not planning to buy one. |
| 14:21 | wahanui | OK, kf. |
| 14:21 | kf | cait? |
| 14:22 | ah, I messed that sentence up | |
| 14:22 | ah, doesn't matter | |
| 14:22 | kf? | |
| 14:22 | wahanui | you are cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 14:23 | drojf | heh |
| 14:23 | cait? | |
| 14:23 | poor bot | |
| 14:23 | wahanui | poor bot is probably just tired |
| 14:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #872 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 14:27 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2930 [REVISED] Put other name on checkout screen <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]609ea3a4011e3c91f> / Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7fa4979154369a393> / Bug 8652 follow-up adding more tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k |
| 14:28 | oleonard | @seen wizzyrea |
| 14:28 | huginn | oleonard: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 12 minutes and 12 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> :D |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Well whaddaya know |
| 14:29 | kf | cait? |
| 14:29 | drojf: just checking.. | |
| 14:31 | drojf | kf: are you implying i would have a private conversation with wahanui to teach him stuff? |
| 14:34 | kf | I would never... well... |
| 14:39 | drojf | you won't check forever… |
| 14:40 | oleonard | Has anyone used the "delete old patrons" tool in production? |
| 14:41 | kf | oleonard: on a test install testing a patch once |
| 14:41 | hm not, that was anonymizing I think :( | |
| 14:41 | I think I am too worried about this tool | |
| 14:42 | oleonard | Yeah, both of those are scary options |
| 14:43 | kf | they make sense .... but I would only use them after doing extensive testing |
| 14:43 | the crux with the anonymizing tool is that is reports usccess and does nothing | |
| 14:43 | unless you have an anonymous borrower set up | |
| 14:43 | I reported a bug for that | |
| 14:44 | oh wow | |
| 14:44 | the meeting is tomorrow | |
| 14:44 | drojf++ | |
| 14:45 | cait? | |
| 14:45 | drojf | lol |
| 14:45 | kf | drojf: which time is that for us? |
| 14:45 | drojf | 12 |
| 14:46 | maybe have lunch early | |
| 14:46 | might take a while | |
| 14:46 | kf | hm yeah, or have lunch at the desk |
| 14:46 | oleonard | Is it the case now that Koha will choose the next valid email address when sending notices? |
| 14:47 | drojf | i vote for you if you do a dirndl presentation |
| 14:47 | kf | buy me one... then we can talk again |
| 14:48 | drojf | heh ok i'll shut up :) |
| 14:49 | kf | that was easy :) |
| 14:49 | drojf | i wonder how baking chocolate chip cookies with some mango-habanero-sauce would turn out |
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| 14:55 | kf | sounds interesting |
| 14:57 | drojf | i will find out soon. just need soft butter. where is the cat we use for that purpose? |
| 14:58 | jcamins_away | drojf: amazing! |
| 14:58 | jcamins | At least, that's my theory. |
| 15:00 | drojf | that's what i think |
| 15:03 | jcamins | I figure of curried coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delicious, chocolate chip mango-habanero cookies would be delicious too. |
| 15:03 | kf | yum. |
| 15:04 | oleonard | Does the number of messages contained in a notice "digest" depend on how often your message queue is processed? |
| 15:05 | kf | hmm |
| 15:05 | I think not | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | It *thought* it happened once every 24 hours regardless |
| 15:05 | kf | because the messages are generated by a separate job |
| 15:05 | advance-notices | |
| 15:05 | and overdue_notices | |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | or whenever the crons run. |
| 15:06 | kf | so it would dependon how often you run those, but would always get all for the specific date I think |
| 15:06 | at least for overdues, due and predue | |
| 15:06 | does that make sense? | |
| 15:07 | oleonard | I'm thinking about the discussion around the patron-self-registration feature, where it sounded like we would need to reduce the frequency of process_message_queue.pl to minutes in order to send out confirmation emails |
| 15:07 | kf | ah |
| 15:07 | I think it wouldn't effect the notces I mentioned | |
| 15:08 | what else ... hold messages are 1 each | |
| 15:08 | the circ slips I think do their own timing thing | |
| 15:14 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:15 | wizzyrea | yea I was wondering why we don't just skip the message queue and time them independently, on demand. |
| 15:15 | cronning messages only makes sense when there's a chance you might add more to the message | |
| 15:15 | at a later time | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | Yeah if you're choosing an interval for the advance_notices cron job why not send straight away on that interval |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | i'm not sure why you wouldn't just send it when the user submits, like every other website out ther.e |
| 15:19 | oleonard | For the OPAC registrations certainly |
| 15:21 | wizzyrea | right that's what I'm referring to |
| 15:22 | oleonard | So wait, how are item checkout notices generated? Not via cron job? |
| 15:26 | Checkout notices get sent out with every run of process_message_queue.pl, so running that every minute | |
| 15:26 | ...will mean no digest-like functionality | |
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| 15:29 | kf | wizzyrea: the message_queue is good for reporting |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 15:29 | gerundio | hi, I'm just starting installing Koha and I'm having some doubts regargind the "Primary language for Zebra indexing (en, fr, nb)" step |
| 15:29 | kf | reading back now |
| 15:30 | gerundio | how can I add more languages to select there? |
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| 15:31 | kf | gerundio: we are using it with en I think (for german) I am not sure an option for each language is required |
| 15:31 | gerundio: which language would you need? | |
| 15:31 | gerundio | Portuguese and possible others languages with additional ponctuation |
| 15:32 | so I guess EN is out of the equation | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | gerundio: use fr. |
| 15:32 | gerundio | I was thinking about it :) |
| 15:32 | jcamins | Actually... |
| 15:32 | * jcamins | thinks about it a bit more. |
| 15:33 | jcamins | Don't do anything until I've had another thirty seconds to think. |
| 15:33 | kf | I think the punctuation should not matter so much |
| 15:33 | we have umlauts | |
| 15:33 | jcamins: what is different for the different settings? | |
| 15:34 | jcamins | French. |
| 15:34 | Sorting. | |
| 15:34 | wahanui | i think sorting is a Monday job |
| 15:34 | kf | ah |
| 15:34 | jcamins | Use French. |
| 15:34 | kf | maybe never run into problems so far then |
| 15:34 | yeah, french sounds sensible | |
| 15:34 | jcamins | No, you won't run into problems with German. |
| 15:34 | Probably not with Spanish or Italian, either. | |
| 15:35 | * jcamins | doesn't know the Portuguese alphabet very well. |
| 15:35 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #872: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/872/ |
| 15:35 | * jonathan.druart: BUG 8652: Add a default value for the lateorders | |
| 15:35 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8652: Followup: add a default value for date_from | |
| 15:35 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8652 follow-up adding more tests | |
| 15:35 | * mtompset: Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl | |
| 15:35 | * oleonard: Bug 2930 [REVISED] Put other name on checkout screen | |
| 15:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8652 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , There is no default value for the late orders |
| 15:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8772 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl | |
| 15:35 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2930 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Put other name on checkout screen | |
| 15:35 | jcamins | The Scandinavian languages... there you'd have a problem. |
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| 15:37 | gerundio | well, I'm adding all the locales to the system no |
| 15:37 | now ^ | |
| 15:37 | lets see if the list shows additional languages | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | It won't. |
| 15:37 | You have four options. | |
| 15:38 | English, French, Norwegian, and Russian. | |
| 15:38 | gerundio | ok, so they're fixed |
| 15:38 | jcamins | It has nothing to do with locales. |
| 15:40 | kf | eek, more rain :( |
| 15:40 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 15:40 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.3°C (5:40 PM CEST on October 09, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 15:40 | kf | light rain... joking |
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| 15:51 | oleonard | kf and wizzyrea, how is the message queue useful for reporting? |
| 15:57 | laurence left #koha | |
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| 15:58 | kf | the notices tab builds on it |
| 15:58 | and if someone tell you they didn't get any overdues notice you can check | |
| 15:58 | or if they say that a book was not listed | |
| 15:58 | or whatever. | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:59 | kf | I always get an aaah for that feature when presenting |
| 16:00 | wizzyrea: do you happen to have a training planfor serials? :) | |
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| 16:01 | wizzyrea | we don't use serials :/ |
| 16:01 | kf | ah, ok :) |
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| 16:02 | kf | oh |
| 16:02 | it isn't that scary... really! | |
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| 16:02 | oleonard | I think we're waiting for an option to be able to allow item-level holds only on specific types (or categories) of titles |
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| 16:03 | oleonard | Because right now we don't want to offer patrons item-level holds, and that would prevent them from placing holds on specific magazine issues |
| 16:03 | kf | :( |
| 16:03 | it would be possible | |
| 16:04 | with one of my favourite bugs | |
| 16:04 | * jcamins | tosses wizzyrea some duct tape. |
| 16:04 | kf | but it missed the deadline |
| 16:04 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 | |
| 16:04 | huginn | 04Bug 5786: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, In Discussion , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix |
| 16:04 | kf | the latest patch also has opacitemholds in the circ matrix |
| 16:05 | which is what you want I think | |
| 16:05 | it has lots of sign-offs but paul found a problem that srdjan couldn't confirm | |
| 16:05 | so it's stuck | |
| 16:05 | and will miss another release, after already missing the last one :( | |
| 16:06 | jcamins | Do we have a sample patron generator? |
| 16:07 | oleonard | Seems like a good use of a comment-spam-user generation bot's feature set |
| 16:09 | jcamins | oleonard: actually, that's a really good idea. |
| 16:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #873 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:14 | oleonard | 5786 is one of those bugs that makes my head spin |
| 16:14 | kf | I hope it can go in very early in 3.12 |
| 16:14 | so we get a lot of time tofigure out problems with it | |
| 16:15 | but it would make my life a lot easier if allowonshelfholds and opacitemholds were on circ matrix level | |
| 16:16 | bye all :) | |
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| 16:17 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b5ba085888c9f4ad5> / Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e27ac24f984b22e8> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8741' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…];h=238aa44379fdf7 |
| 16:33 | gaetan_B | bye |
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| 17:10 | cait | back:) |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | ha, this is awesome: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]g-live-links.html |
| 17:13 | imagine if you will, a printed cart, with links to the catalog that are qr's | |
| 17:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #873: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/873/ |
| 17:21 | * frederick.capovilla: Bug 8570 - Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page | |
| 17:21 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8570 follow-up removing tabs & improving indentation | |
| 17:21 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8570 follow-up removing tabs & improving indentation | |
| 17:21 | * tomascohen: Bug 8741 - crontab.example missing username, fails in some systems | |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page |
| 17:21 | jenkins_koha | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket |
| 17:21 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/ | |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8741 minor, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , crontab.example missing username, fails in some systems |
| 17:21 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7873 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Title sort in OPAC basket doesn't work | |
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| 17:54 | mib_e5zz3g | hi |
| 18:00 | jcamins | complicated? |
| 18:00 | wahanui | complicated is probably far too mild a term to describe Search.pm. |
| 18:00 | jcamins | confusing? |
| 18:11 | libsysguy | rangi? (not sure if your here yet) |
| 18:12 | @later tell rangi this is still my favorite dub of all time http://soundcloud.com/excision[…]ownlink-existence | |
| 18:12 | huginn | libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:21 | rambutan | oleonard (or others): any general philosophical comments on nodejs? |
| 18:21 | * oleonard | doesn't know enough to comment |
| 18:21 | jcamins | rambutan: isn't that server-side JS? |
| 18:25 | rambutan | yes. We have an app we're working on using mostly php for server side, and one of the group wants to redo it in nodejs |
| 18:28 | oleonard | Just for the sake of using nodejs? |
| 18:28 | cait | ^^ I think that's a good question |
| 18:28 | jcamins | rambutan: I've heard good things about nodejs, and it worked well when I had a Javascript application that I wanted to run on the server instead of the browser (Zotero), but I wouldn't rewrite anything to use it. |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | I tried to write a page scraper in it once |
| 18:29 | and had mixed results | |
| 18:29 | rambutan | I asked him that exact question (via email), haven't gotten a reply. |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | i ended up using perl instead |
| 18:29 | rambutan | Well, I think we're going to have to redo some of the php anyway. |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | what is the app for? |
| 18:32 | and would it be better served to write it in php or node | |
| 18:32 | languages are just tools, you should pick the right one for the right job | |
| 18:33 | at least that is my philosophy | |
| 18:33 | rambutan | http://code.google.com/p/libpac/source/browse/ |
| 18:33 | This is a public access control system | |
| 18:35 | the main coder for this wants to use nodejs, but if he kept it in php us others could probably help him more. | |
| 18:35 | cait | did he work with nodejs in hte past? |
| 18:36 | rambutan | no, I think it's a new toy :) |
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| 18:36 | cait | hm that's not a plus then :) |
| 18:39 | drojf | cookies! |
| 18:39 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 18:39 | cait | so right wahanui, so right |
| 18:39 | * cait | wishes she had some |
| 18:39 | cait | drojf: did you try it? |
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| 18:41 | drojf | yes. very nice. could have used even more of the chilistuff, i was a little shy. |
| 18:41 | cait | next time |
| 18:41 | wahanui | somebody said next time was in 87 years or something... ;-) |
| 18:41 | drojf | and gluten free too |
| 18:42 | cait | what wrere the other ingredients? |
| 18:42 | * oleonard | wonders what wahanui is waiting 87 years for |
| 18:43 | drojf | the usual. butter, flour, sugar, an egg, and chocolate of course |
| 18:43 | jcamins | drojf: do error messages (404, etc.) work for you under Plack? |
| 18:44 | jcamins? | |
| 18:44 | wahanui | i think jcamins is either blind sided with arrogance for me even to bring up this inquiry as if he has seen this before or he can not be bothered, and an embarrasement to my software comunity. |
| 18:44 | drojf | lol |
| 18:44 | good question. let me see | |
| 18:45 | i just get "not found" if i open an url that does not exist | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | drojf: that's what I get, too, thanks. |
| 18:51 | rambutan | here's the feedback on nodejs from the guy I was talking about earlier, if anyone is interested... |
| 18:51 | we've found that nodejs actually much easier, and significantly faster in many cases. Plus I really enjoy working in it. It also allows you to develop a full application. Instead of executing at request. So it can sit there and listen at alternate ports, and perform many operations. | |
| 18:52 | drojf | jcamins: are you using starman now? |
| 18:52 | jcamins | drojf: I am, yes. |
| 18:53 | * oleonard | can't believe 1024x768 is now considered "tablet size" |
| 18:53 | cait | forget jcamins |
| 18:53 | wahanui | cait: I forgot jcamins |
| 18:53 | drojf | was that readily available or did you have to build/cpan it? i remember it was not available in an approrpiate version when i tried it on the raspberry pi first |
| 18:54 | cait | jcamins is running for release manager for 3.12 and a his work on authorities is amazing! |
| 18:54 | jcamins? | |
| 18:54 | wahanui | jcamins is probably running for release manager for 3.12 and a his work on authorities is amazing! |
| 18:54 | jcamins | drojf: I decided to use Ubuntu Precise so that I wouldn't have to CPAN so much. |
| 18:55 | drojf | ah right you said so. and i just checked on the pi and see a 3.001-1 |
| 19:00 | that reminds me… i wanted to ask dpavlin_ what is in his prod.psgi. how does it work with opac and staff client in starman? do you just throw both files together? | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | drojf: it doesn't. |
| 19:00 | drojf | ah. great ;) |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Remember how I spent three hours this morning messing with my Plack config? |
| 19:00 | That's why. | |
| 19:00 | drojf | ouch :( |
| 19:00 | i see | |
| 19:00 | * jcamins | will share, once he has the last bugs worked out. |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Like the error documents. |
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| 19:15 | drojf | considering that my opac tries to load forever with starman, i will wait for your findings ;) and i sent a mail to dpavlin_ asking for his config file |
| 19:18 | jcamins | drojf: if you have any idea how to get the error documents working, pointers are much appreciated. :) |
| 19:20 | Also any hints how to get useful information in the logs. | |
| 19:26 | drojf | maybe i do |
| 19:26 | seen this? http://dev.man-online.org/man3[…]e::ErrorDocument/ | |
| 19:26 | wahanui | I haven't seen 'this', drojf |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Yes, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet. |
| 19:27 | * jcamins | figures that probably has the solution... somewhere. |
| 19:27 | drojf | let's me try |
| 19:33 | browser "file not found" instead of the other "not found" is at least different :) | |
| 19:37 | ok i see, that does not really work for me either. enabling the sub request brings back the old error and does not really do a GET at all | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Yeah, that's what I found. |
| 19:41 | drojf: puzzling, isn't it? | |
| 19:42 | drojf | indeed |
| 19:44 | have you tried package Plack::Middleware::ErrorDocument::App ? | |
| 19:44 | * jcamins | has not. |
| 19:45 | jcamins | I don't think I saw that. |
| 19:45 | * cait | loves watching drojf and jcamins |
| 19:45 | cheers them on :) | |
| 19:45 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:45 | drojf | https://github.com/jamadam/Pla[…]orDocument/App.pm |
| 19:45 | jcamins | Deprecated, though? |
| 19:48 | Ohhh... I bet it's because the error pages return errors. | |
| 19:49 | rangi | hmm still no qa on bug 3652? |
| 19:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3652 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , XSS vulnerabilities |
| 19:49 | rangi | and morning |
| 19:50 | cait | :( |
| 19:59 | drojf | ha |
| 19:59 | jcamins | Got it? |
| 20:00 | drojf | i see my local error file at least |
| 20:01 | rangi | what we should do |
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| 20:01 | rangi | is make some way of rendering those error pages as static |
| 20:01 | then serve them like that | |
| 20:20 | drojf | jcamins: i think you are right about the error pages returning errors :) |
| 20:20 | when i have the working local 404.html and open /cgi-bin/koha/errors/404.pl i get to my local file instead | |
| 20:21 | jcamins | Right, so a change to the various errorhandlers will fix it. |
| 20:33 | The problem with static errorhandlers is that we show different things depending on whether you're logged in or not. | |
| 20:36 | drojf | true |
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| 20:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #195 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:09 | jcamins | Time to close up. Back from home, most likely. |
| 21:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #195: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/195/ |
| 21:20 | oleonard: Bug 6037 [Follow-up] Invalid markup, missing breadcrumbs on Keyword to MARC Mapping page | |
| 21:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6037 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Invalid markup, missing breadcrumbs on Keyword to MARC Mapping page |
| 21:20 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #196 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:23 | cait | oh cool |
| 21:23 | maybe we can make it to the 200 end of year? or next year :) will be cool any time it happens | |
| 21:23 | rangi | yup |
| 21:23 | http://blog.timbunce.org/2012/[…]-perl-memory-use/ | |
| 21:29 | drojf | "I've never felt so accepted in all of my life. These people look deep within my soul and assign me a number based on the order in which I joined." |
| 21:29 | cait | is that a quote? |
| 21:30 | drojf | yes. homer j. simpson at the stonecutters ;) |
| 21:30 | cait | aah |
| 21:31 | masons? | |
| 21:35 | drojf | a simpson kind of freemasonish secret society. we should have a fancy song like they do |
| 21:35 | cait | and a secret koha handshake? ;) |
| 21:35 | drojf | exactly :) |
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| 22:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #196: SUCCESS in 40 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/196/ |
| 22:00 | jbalway: Bug 8680 Z39.50 ISBN Search is problematic and there is a missing ISSN field. | |
| 22:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8680 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic in the Acquistions Module |
| 22:00 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #197 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:02 | eythian | wahanui: yow |
| 22:02 | wahanui | Is a tattoo real, like a curb or a battleship? Or are we suffering in Safeway? |
| 22:04 | rambutan | wahanui passes the turing test. |
| 22:04 | wahanui | rambutan: excuse me? |
| 22:16 | rangi | https://github.com/cxreg/smartcd/ <-- cool |
| 22:19 | jcamins_away | rangi: very cool! |
| 22:21 | eythian | yeah, that is a neat idea |
| 22:22 | jcamins | This errordocument issue with Plack seems like something that many, many people would have encountered. |
| 22:33 | rambutan | eythian: I should have said "new library bookmobile" in my email, vs just "new library" |
| 22:34 | eythian | ah right |
| 22:35 | there are trademark issues in NZ too, though I don't think they cover the logo. I don't think PTFS uses the real logo anyway. | |
| 22:35 | rangi | well there aren't yet, the TM still isnt registered |
| 22:36 | but yeah its not for the logo, and no they dont use the real logo | |
| 22:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #197: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/197/ |
| 22:39 | * mtompset: Bug 8772 - Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl | |
| 22:39 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7873: fixes sort on Title in OPAC basket | |
| 22:39 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 7873 follow-up s/tab/4spaces/ | |
| 22:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8772 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Uninitialized variable triggers error log entry in smart_rules.pl |
| 22:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7873 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Title sort in OPAC basket doesn't work | |
| 22:39 | jcamins | Mystery of the errordocuments solved. |
| 22:40 | Plack does not support Perl errorodocuments. | |
| 22:43 | Ooh! Chocolate chips are on sale! | |
| 22:44 | I shall have to buy 10lbs next week. | |
| 22:44 | Excuse me, 9lbs. | |
| 22:44 | * eythian | brought boxes of hagelslag back from .nl :) |
| 22:45 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 22:46 | Guess I need html error pages. | |
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| 23:35 | jcamins | Does anyone know if dpavlin's system is publicly available? |
| 23:38 | Yes. | |
| 23:38 | And error documents work perfectly. | |
| 23:43 | And it's served by Apache. | |
| 23:43 | Odd. | |
| 23:44 | Who else announced their intention of putting Plack in production? | |
| 23:50 | eythian | well, are you using starman? |
| 23:50 | or whatever it is? | |
| 23:50 | jcamins | eythian: I am indeed. |
| 23:50 | eythian | I probably wouldn't use that in production, but instead mod_psgi or something. I haven't given it a lot of thought however. |
| 23:51 | * jcamins | is not going to be changing his configuration at this point. :P |
| 23:53 | jcamins | Well, this is a development server, so I will do without error documents. |
| 23:53 | What I can't figure out is why no one testing Plack has complained about this before. | |
| 23:55 | I feel like it would be hard to miss. | |
| 23:56 | eythian | is it a starman limitation? |
| 23:56 | jcamins | No, Plack. |
| 23:56 | eythian | because people might be using other servers instead. |
| 23:56 | jcamins | I asked on the PSGI IRC channel, and was told that PSGI did not allow it. |
| 23:58 | bug 6800 | |
| 23:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6800 major, P3, ---, jcamins, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Koha authentication should handle proxies better |
| 23:58 | jcamins | Looks like that'd be required for Plack. |
| 23:59 | eythian | hmm, annoying. Though you could do it at the apache level. |
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