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| 00:23 | ala_3vo joined #koha | |
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| 00:25 | ala_3vo | Hi #koha |
| 00:28 | I'm trying to put an image to the opac header. How can that be done, any help? | |
| 00:32 | mtj | ala_3vo -> http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?cat=3 |
| 00:33 | http://www.myacpl.org/koha/?p=3 | |
| 00:37 | ala_3vo | mtj, Thanks. |
| 00:38 | Is it possible to put image into the koha share directory and use that image on opac header? | |
| 00:42 | mtj | yes, i think so |
| 00:43 | … but your path/to/the/file will need to be correct | |
| 00:45 | ala_3vo | the path I'm thinking of is /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmp/prog/images/ |
| 00:45 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, ala_3vo. |
| 00:50 | mtj | h1#libraryname { background: url("../../images/koha-logo.gif") |
| 00:51 | if you want a 'local' path to your logo, something like that... | |
| 00:52 | hmmm, ignore that :) thats a bad path | |
| 00:53 | ala_3vo | mtj, what should be the correct path? |
| 00:54 | mtj | opac-tmpl/prog/images/koha-logo.gif |
| 00:55 | ala_3vo | Okay... if I'm using an ip adress then it should be something like http://192.168.1.96:8080/opac-[…]ges/koha-logo.gif. |
| 00:56 | where http://192.168.1.96:8080 is the opac. Is that correct? | |
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| 01:18 | mtj | ala_3vo, no , 8080 is usually the staff/admin port |
| 01:20 | … but the path is correct, for either opac or staff interfaces | |
| 01:21 | http://kopac.tamil.fr | |
| 01:21 | http://kopac.tamil.fr/opac-tmp[…]ges/koha-logo.gif | |
| 01:21 | etc... | |
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| 02:34 | eythian | wahanui: cait is also in Munich in a Dirndl |
| 02:34 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
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| 06:09 | libsysguy | anybody running 3.8.5? |
| 06:09 | its so quiet in here | |
| 06:09 | * libsysguy | wonders if anyone hears him |
| 06:13 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:13 | yup, i'm running 3.8.5 in production | |
| 06:16 | libsysguy | had any issues out of fines magnuse? |
| 06:17 | magnuse | nope, 'cause none of the libraries use fines :-) |
| 06:17 | libsysguy | heh |
| 06:17 | damn it | |
| 06:17 | I can't get fines to charge for the life of me | |
| 06:17 | magnuse | ouch |
| 06:18 | any error messages in the logs or something? | |
| 06:18 | libsysguy | thats the weird part |
| 06:18 | the fines calculate and push to the fines long in /tmp | |
| 06:18 | but it never applies them to the db | |
| 06:18 | and the calculate and apply syspref is enabled | |
| 06:21 | magnuse | that's not good |
| 06:22 | libsysguy | indeed its not |
| 06:22 | I was just hoping I wasn't the first to see it | |
| 06:22 | or I was the only one | |
| 06:22 | just as a sanity check | |
| 06:22 | :p | |
| 06:24 | cait-m joined #koha | |
| 06:24 | libsysguy | cait-m!! |
| 06:24 | wahanui | somebody said cait-m was on a train :-) |
| 06:24 | cait-m | good morning |
| 06:24 | libsysguy | morning |
| 06:24 | wahanui | rumour has it morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 06:24 | cait-m | hi wahanui |
| 06:25 | libsysguy | geez wahanui you're all up in my biz |
| 06:25 | and its so late here | |
| 06:25 | cait-m | hi libsysguy |
| 06:25 | why are you awake? | |
| 06:25 | libsysguy | i can't sleep |
| 06:26 | cait-m | wanted to wish me luck? |
| 06:26 | libsysguy | im not tired :'( |
| 06:26 | oh yes | |
| 06:26 | that too | |
| 06:26 | cait-m | heh |
| 06:26 | libsysguy | you're speaking soon right? |
| 06:26 | cait-m | hmm not really |
| 06:26 | libsysguy | oh |
| 06:26 | well man did I miss that one | |
| 06:26 | cait-m | at noon here, 3.5 h |
| 06:27 | libsysguy | hopefully I will be asleep by then |
| 06:27 | cait-m | yep |
| 06:27 | waiting for the subway | |
| 06:28 | libsysguy | do you have subway sandwiches in Germany? |
| 06:28 | cait-m | yes |
| 06:29 | libsysguy | yumm |
| 06:29 | :p | |
| 06:29 | cait-m | we have subways, kfc, burger king and mc donalds |
| 06:29 | libsysguy | Anna and I were talking about places in China yesterday |
| 06:29 | when she lived there they named places they didn't know by what they normally would be in America :p | |
| 06:29 | cait-m | buf i am waiting for transportation :-) |
| 06:30 | libsysguy | so they had mcdonalds, kfc, etc too :p |
| 06:30 | cait-m | heg |
| 06:30 | heh | |
| 06:30 | libsysguy | well what a better way to pass the time |
| 06:30 | than with a sandwich | |
| 06:30 | :D | |
| 06:31 | cait-m | lol |
| 06:31 | * magnuse | wishes cait-m good luck even if it is early yet |
| 06:31 | cait-m | talking to you? |
| 06:31 | hi magnusr | |
| 06:31 | libsysguy | no not a talking sandwih |
| 06:31 | sandwich* | |
| 06:31 | :p | |
| 06:32 | cait-m | go to sleep! |
| 06:32 | libsysguy | b-b-but I think i just found a major bug in 3.8.5 |
| 06:33 | 5 more minutes :p | |
| 06:33 | cait-m | sleepg bug? |
| 06:33 | libsysguy | i wish I could catch the sand man |
| 06:34 | cait-m | ttyl |
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| 06:51 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 06:52 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:52 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:04 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 07:09 | magnuse | hiya mtompset reiveune alex_a laurence julian_m sophie_m asaurat |
| 07:09 | reiveune | salut magnuse :) |
| 07:10 | laurence | hi magnuse |
| 07:10 | sophie_m | hi magnuse |
| 07:10 | hi #koha | |
| 07:10 | mtompset | greetings, magnuse. Salut reiveune sophie_m |
| 07:10 | reiveune | mtompset : bonjour :) |
| 07:10 | julian_m | hello magnuse |
| 07:11 | mtompset | Greetings, julian_m |
| 07:11 | matts | hi ! |
| 07:11 | julian_m | hi mtompset |
| 07:11 | mtompset | Changing it up today, reiveune? ;) |
| 07:11 | reiveune | ;) |
| 07:14 | asaurat | hi =) |
| 07:15 | mtompset | greetings, asaurat and matts |
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| 07:33 | francharb | hi |
| 07:33 | wahanui | hola, francharb |
| 07:43 | mtompset | Okay... I so want to progress bar the framework duplication! |
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| 08:36 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 08:36 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:48 | mtompset | Greetings, drojf. |
| 08:48 | drojf | hi mtompset |
| 08:49 | quiet around here | |
| 08:49 | mtompset | Are their official instructions on how to get the packages to icu index rather than chr index? |
| 08:49 | Oops... there. | |
| 08:49 | drojf | i don't know. have you checked the wiki? |
| 08:50 | mtompset | I was cleaning up the LiveCD/LiveDVD portion, since someone admitted to using something by Mizstik which is totally out of date, and his google group says he no longer supports it. |
| 08:51 | drojf | oh. live-cd. out of date. google group. sounds scary |
| 08:51 | also, if he says its yout of date, why does he not take down the download? | |
| 08:51 | out | |
| 08:53 | mtompset | Because he doesnt' have time to delete the google group? |
| 08:53 | Don't know. | |
| 08:54 | drojf | mtompset: from the 3.8.0 release notes: "* Add ICU option to Koha out of the box (7698) during installation, you now have an option to use ICU. ICU is a unicode library that improve a lot zebra search engine for non latin alphabet catalogue ". maybe make people use recent versions would help |
| 08:54 | i don't remember being asked about that at installation though | |
| 08:55 | mtompset | exactly... because it is asked a BUILD time, not INSTALL time. |
| 08:55 | drojf | ah. ok that's useless for normal people |
| 08:56 | mtompset | I'm thinking we should build icu by default, but perhaps it already is as of a particular version? |
| 08:56 | Who is the zebra king around here? :) | |
| 08:56 | drojf | what would be the reason not to? the link on the ml said fuzzy search has to be turned off, i would imagine that is something a lot of libraries use |
| 08:57 | jcamins_away helped me a lot with that cranky animal | |
| 08:59 | * drojf | is off to a meeting |
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| 09:24 | magnuse | huh, why would ODUE be sent as good looking html email (with linebreaks and links) and ODUE2 be sent as more or less plain text (without linebreaks and links) when the templates are the same? |
| 09:31 | looks like the html gets stripped out of the body of ODUE2 | |
| 09:38 | mtompset | Ah, so my thought was correct... ODUE2 = html stripped ODUE. ;) |
| 09:39 | magnuse | huh? |
| 09:39 | ODUE and ODUE2 are effectively identical | |
| 09:39 | ODUE is sent with HTML in the body, ODUE2 is sent without | |
| 09:40 | but they both have content_type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" in the message_queue table | |
| 09:42 | mtompset | Oh, so ODUE is a poorly marked up version of ODUE2? |
| 09:42 | magnuse | the templates are identical |
| 09:43 | something happens to ODUE2 before it is sent | |
| 09:48 | gah, looks like i'm confusing the codes | |
| 09:48 | DUE is sent as proper HTML | |
| 09:48 | but both ODUE and ODUE2 have the html stripped from the message... | |
| 09:59 | * magnuse | finds bug 6030 |
| 09:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6030 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Patch doesn't apply , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices |
| 09:59 | magnuse | d'oh |
| 10:05 | @later tell nengard bug 6030 implies that html can not be used in overdue notices. maybe this could be mentioned in the bulletpoint that starts with "If you plan on writing the notice or slip in HTML..." below here: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]s.html#addnotices ? | |
| 10:05 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:10 | * magnuse | thinks html in email is evil anyway |
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| 10:45 | koyauni | hi, my web server has stopped working and when I try to stop and restart Apache I get this error message (# apachectl stop apache2: Syntax error on line 230 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 5 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/library: Coul d not open configuration file /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf: No such file or directory Action 'sto |
| 10:46 | and in fact I can not see that file in that folder, so what has happened to that file, | |
| 10:47 | I just did backup the other day sudo koha-dump library , do you think this has created any problem? | |
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| 11:05 | drojf | back |
| 11:17 | koyauni: i doubt that the backup has anything to do with that | |
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| 11:33 | mtompset | history | grep /etc/koha |
| 11:33 | Find out if someone did. ;) | |
| 11:33 | drojf | heh |
| 11:34 | pastebot | "mtompset" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my /etc/koha" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/207 |
| 11:35 | mtompset | It should be identical since we are both using packages. |
| 11:37 | And no. /usr/sbin/koha-dump doesn't even touch /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf | |
| 11:38 | Oh wait... let's blame plesk. ;)\ | |
| 11:39 | drojf | plesk? |
| 11:39 | wahanui | plesk is terrible and likely to interfere with setting up Koha |
| 11:39 | drojf | sounds like you are right mtompset ;) |
| 11:46 | mtompset: a VM with combined host-only adapter and NAT works for me with DHCP, have you ever done it with a static IP for the host-only adapter? i can't reach it from outside if i try | |
| 11:47 | maybe found the problem now | |
| 11:48 | mtompset | Make sure you set the host-only to promiscuous. |
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| 11:49 | mtompset | Oh and you need to make sure your netmask is 255.255.0.0, so that it crosses to the VM's networking. |
| 11:49 | (which should not be the same as your LANs) | |
| 11:52 | drojf | my problem was using 192.168.2.x in debian, but having the default of 192.168.56.1 for the virtual adapter. it's working now |
| 11:54 | hm. i wonder if a google group would have tried to help more | |
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| 12:03 | mtompset | tried to help more? |
| 12:04 | What do you mean, drojf? | |
| 12:06 | drojf | i mean koyauni. he asked something, you addressed it, he left. i wonder if a web forum would have tried more than that. not trying to be a dick, just really wondering what would go on in such place. |
| 12:07 | mtompset | Well, I don't really know how to tell if plesk messed it up. |
| 12:07 | And the history grep was a good idea, if it wasn't plesk. ;) | |
| 12:08 | I couldn't help more. And frankly, a forum would probably give thousands of wrong answer too. :) | |
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| 12:17 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
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| 12:19 | mtompset | Greetings, jwagner. |
| 12:19 | jwagner | Hi, mtompset |
| 12:19 | mtompset | Greetings, oleonard. |
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| 12:24 | * oleonard | waves to druthb |
| 12:24 | druthb | Hi, oleonard! :) |
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| 12:25 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 12:31 | drojf | mtompset: that's what i meant. you tried to help (and he ignored that). in a group full of people that did not have enough technical skills to use a mailing list, i doubt he would have had more useful answers |
| 12:32 | good morning jcamins | |
| 12:32 | kohakhan | I was just bitten by: Can't call method "get_attr" without a package or object reference at /home/koha/kohaclone/patroncards/edit-batch.pl line 126. |
| 12:32 | ... when i was going to create a 'New batch' to print the card using 'Patron card creator>Manage card Batches' | |
| 12:32 | Any work around? | |
| 12:33 | mtompset | What are you using, kohakhan? |
| 12:33 | livecd? | |
| 12:33 | wahanui | somebody said livecd was here http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_LiveCD |
| 12:33 | mtompset | git install? |
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| 12:34 | mtompset | What version of Koha are you using, kohakhan? |
| 12:34 | Greetings, jcamins. | |
| 12:35 | kohakhan | I downloade the VM having 3.08.00.001 |
| 12:35 | mtompset | From where? |
| 12:36 | and out of curiousity... echo $KOHA_CONF | |
| 12:36 | echo $PERL5LIB | |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Kyle Hall's VM? |
| 12:37 | kohakhan | From Kyle: http://sourceforge.net/projects/koha-va/files/ |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Someone just patched that bug, I think. It sounds very familiar. |
| 12:38 | Ohhh. | |
| 12:38 | No, it's not patched. | |
| 12:38 | I'm the one who reported it, and it was user error. | |
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| 12:38 | jcamins | You need to log in as a regular user. |
| 12:39 | (i.e. not kohaadmin) | |
| 12:40 | kohakhan | so i have to create an other user and then login to create the card? |
| 12:40 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:40 | You shouldn't be using kohaadmin ever. | |
| 12:40 | kohakhan | thanks a lot, let me try it. |
| 12:41 | drojf | we do not have a list of such error messages (and the fixes) in one place, do we? |
| 12:43 | mtompset | Perhaps we should limit what modules the system user can enter. ;) |
| 12:45 | kohakhan | jcamins: i found that... 'Set library' (at the top) was not set for kohaadmin. therefore it crashed! |
| 12:46 | jcamins | kohakhan: you're going to have additional problems if you use the kohaadmin user. |
| 12:46 | Create a new superlibrarian user and use that one. | |
| 12:47 | drojf | mtompset: good point, is there anything besides "patrons" that one should be able to use with that user? maybe the about/check page |
| 12:47 | jcamins | mtompset: wizzyrea is working on a patch to do that, actually. |
| 12:47 | drojf | wizzyrea++ |
| 12:47 | mtompset | wizzyrea++ # get that patch in soon. :) |
| 12:48 | drojf: You owe me a coke. ;) | |
| 12:49 | drojf | :D |
| 12:50 | kohakhan | jcamins: you have already investigated it thoroughly :) |
| 12:51 | magnuse | bug 8689 |
| 12:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8689 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , disable login via Koha's $database account |
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| 12:54 | tcohen | morning #koha |
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| 12:54 | drojf | hi tcohen |
| 12:55 | tcohen | hi drojf |
| 12:55 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 12:56 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 12:57 | mtompset | a git reset only affects the current branch you are on, right? |
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| 12:59 | paul_p | hello (back) |
| 13:00 | mtompset | welcome back. |
| 13:00 | tcohen | welcome back paul_p |
| 13:00 | he | |
| 13:00 | kohakhan | ! can't locate the option 'Manage Patron Image' in v3.08 |
| 13:00 | magnuse | welcome back paul_p |
| 13:02 | mtompset | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]#managecardimages |
| 13:02 | When in doubt, search the manual. | |
| 13:02 | tcohen | More > Tools > Upload patron images |
| 13:03 | kohakhan | thanks |
| 13:03 | drojf | paul_p: i understand biblibre is in charge of lists.k-c.org. if we would decide to have another german mailing list (a general one, we only have i18n atm), how would we get it? ask you for the list creator password? ask you to set it up for us? |
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| 13:04 | paul_p | drojf = yep, ask me. I will transfer your request to our sysadmin guy |
| 13:05 | drojf | paul_p: ok cool. have to talk this through with kf. thanks |
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| 13:09 | oleonard | mizstik's Koha Live CD: last update 2011-07-29, 55 downloads this week. |
| 13:10 | magnuse | wow |
| 13:10 | drojf | :/ |
| 13:10 | magnuse | that's a lot of downloads |
| 13:12 | drojf | i can't even access the site without a google account. that does not help with my dislike of google groups |
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| 13:12 | oleonard | Here's the Sourceforge link drojf: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivecd/ |
| 13:12 | I'm going to add a "review" which says please don't use this | |
| 13:12 | drojf | thanks oleonard |
| 13:12 | oleonard | ...fwiw |
| 13:12 | drojf | heh sounds good |
| 13:13 | ah ok, ads might be the reason why he does not take it down | |
| 13:13 | oleonard | Do you get ad revenue from Sourceforge? Or does Sourceforge? |
| 13:14 | * magnuse | would think sourceforge gets it |
| 13:14 | drojf | yes makes sense |
| 13:17 | oh come on, "Can Anyone help me to tell the USER ID & PASSWORD of KOHA LIVE CD with ubuntu12.04LTS." is a positive review? :/ | |
| 13:18 | clicking a thumbs down does not require a log in. maybe we all should do that once or twice | |
| 13:20 | magnuse | do we know who mizstik is? |
| 13:23 | jcamins | magnuse: no idea. |
| 13:25 | magnuse | hooray for biblibre - 5 years old today! |
| 13:26 | oleonard | I msged the Sourceforge user |
| 13:26 | Happy Birthday Biblibre! | |
| 13:26 | drojf | "How can I install koha live cd without bootable cd" sounds like a fun topic. also, it's weird that i can access the group, but not via his website |
| 13:27 | oleonard | drojf: After that, "How can I install Koha without having access to a computer?" |
| 13:28 | drojf | lol |
| 13:28 | magnuse | wow loading that 24MB 2.2.x databasedump into an empty database is taking forever... |
| 13:28 | oleonard: lol! | |
| 13:28 | drojf | "How can I protect the kohalivecd installed system without Anti virus". yeah, we definitely need a google group |
| 13:29 | jcamins | E-mailed. |
| 13:29 | drojf | magnuse: 2.2.x? where did you find that? |
| 13:29 | jcamins++ | |
| 13:31 | "Would this livecd work on windows also.". you can't make that up. | |
| 13:32 | jcamins | drojf: I disagree. I could have predicted it. |
| 13:33 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 13:33 | drojf: at a small swedish school - but i suspect there are a lot of 2.2.x still out there | |
| 13:38 | drojf | oh, a small school. i can imagine that. "it's free, so we install it once and never touch that running system again". also, the teacher who did it in his spare time is long gone. *takes wild guesses* |
| 13:38 | * oleonard | seems to recall mtompset's country is predominately 2.x |
| 13:39 | jcamins | drojf: there are a *ton* of 2.2.x's. |
| 13:39 | mtompset | Well, we are all a bunch of lumberjacks, riding our dogsleds to work while living in Igloos and ice castles. :P |
| 13:39 | jcamins | mtompset: the country where you _live_. |
| 13:39 | drojf | lol |
| 13:40 | jcamins: that's kind of scary. also, why did nobody in my country use koha when it was at 2.2.x? :/ | |
| 13:40 | mtompset | Oh... Fedora *grumble grumble* 2.9.X junk. |
| 13:40 | jcamins | drojf: in fact, I'm going to call a library that's migrating from 2.2.x today. |
| 13:41 | mtompset | You mean the country in which I *WORK*. :P |
| 13:41 | * oleonard | thinks every library migrating from 2.2.x should get a congratulatory call from jcamins |
| 13:41 | drojf | lol i would like that |
| 13:42 | jcamins | oleonard: I think I'd spend all my time on the phone. |
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| 13:42 | magnuse | drojf: something like that yes |
| 13:42 | drojf | kohipsters. they used koha before it was mainstream |
| 13:43 | magnuse | yeah! |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Real Kohipsters used Koha before it had MARC support |
| 13:43 | magnuse | Real Kohipsters built Koha from scratch :-) |
| 13:44 | drojf | jcamins: and you send emails to people with live-cds from LAST YEAR? ;) |
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| 13:44 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 13:44 | wajasu | an play hip hop while providing releases |
| 13:44 | jcamins | drojf: only one person with the livecd. :P |
| 13:45 | drojf | jcamins: i see :D |
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| 13:48 | drojf | seems like our koha workshop is really going to happen \o/ i hope cait will make it or i will have to explain a lot of stuff myself i have not really used yet |
| 13:49 | jcamins | Hooray! |
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| 13:51 | drojf | 4pm until 11am next day. open end. that sounds like a lot of fun, but i wonder how many library folks want to pull an koha allnighter ;) |
| 13:52 | jcamins | drojf: probably not many. |
| 13:52 | drojf: unless it's at a craft brewery. | |
| 13:54 | drojf | unfortunately, no. it's at a library. they have some kind of night reading event and we get an extra room there for the koha fun. but there is free catering as far as i know. i wouldn't mind sleeping at some point instead of staying up until 11 too, they have couches or something there to rest :) |
| 13:57 | jcamins | drojf: bring a craft brewer in to do a pop-up brewery? :) |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | oh yea, I am working on that aren't I. Ha. |
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| 13:58 | wizzyrea | and good <time of day> |
| 13:58 | drojf | jcamins: fantastic idea actually ;) |
| 13:58 | ho wizzyrea | |
| 13:58 | hi even | |
| 13:58 | hi-ho, hi-ho | |
| 13:58 | * wizzyrea | didn't realize it was talk like a pirate day |
| 13:58 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 13:59 | ahoy. | |
| 13:59 | drojf | lol |
| 13:59 | jcamins | wizzyrea: wasn't that a few weeks ago? |
| 13:59 | oleonard | "Ho!" is appropriate if you're LARPing today drojf |
| 13:59 | wizzyrea | yea, I think it was |
| 13:59 | I think any day can be talk like a pirate day | |
| 13:59 | you just have to proclaim it so | |
| 14:00 | drojf | for some of us, talk like a pirate day is everyday. for example for, like, pirates |
| 14:03 | oleonard | I downloaded a torrent legally yesterday. I think that makes me a pirate in some jurisdictions? |
| 14:03 | ...uh, me hearties. | |
| 14:04 | drojf | i will not say anything about any torrents i ever downloaded. arrrr |
| 14:04 | * drojf | is off to watch the simpsons |
| 14:04 | drojf | (completely unrelated. *disclaim, disclaim*) |
| 14:09 | tcohen | how do I delete a branch in github? |
| 14:12 | wajasu | pirate day was weeks ago |
| 14:17 | tcohen | anyone? |
| 14:18 | jcamins | tcohen: I don't know, sorry. |
| 14:18 | tcohen | i just deleted the repository :/ |
| 14:18 | senator | tcohen: git push -f repo :branch-to-delete |
| 14:18 | doh, too late | |
| 14:19 | tcohen | it just follows koha, with some additions from us |
| 14:19 | (all of them patches in bz BTW ;)) | |
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| 14:22 | oleonard | I don't think the -f is required |
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| 14:23 | kohakhan | I am little bit puzzled, why 'image' and 'image upload' option are removed from Patron profile in new version 3.08. Home › Patrons › Patron details |
| 14:25 | tcohen | senator, oleonard, that command means push "nothing" to branch-to-delete? |
| 14:27 | oleonard | tcohen: the colon before the branch name tells git to delete the branch |
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| 14:28 | tcohen | I used git push github-koha 3.8.x_psi:3.8.x_psi |
| 14:28 | sorry, this: git push github-koha 3.8.x_psi:3.8.x_unc | |
| 14:28 | to push our local branch 3.8.x_psi to remote 3.8.x_unc | |
| 14:30 | jcamins | Can anyone think of an actual good reason for us to have *four* MARC21->MODS stylesheets included with Koha? |
| 14:32 | Ah. I guess we have one stylesheet for each version. | |
| 14:32 | Can anyone think of a good reason to use MODS 3.0, | |
| 14:32 | senator | tcohen: right. a colon with nothing before it will push "nothing" in the sense of "make the remote branch go away", i.e. delete it (not in the sense of "this command does nothing") |
| 14:33 | jcamins | MODS 3.1, MODS 3.2, and MODS 3.3? |
| 14:33 | (and MODS 3.4, though we aren't using it yet) | |
| 14:35 | tcohen | jcamins, how do u follow k-c's repo in your personal git repo? |
| 14:36 | by hand? every branch? just those you use? | |
| 14:36 | jcamins | tcohen: what do you mean? I have a kc remote, and do a fetch a couple times a day. |
| 14:37 | tcohen | do u have a working public repo (github, gitorius, etc)? |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Yes. https://github.com/jcamins/koha/ |
| 14:37 | tcohen | I want to make public what we use here |
| 14:37 | jcamins | I do not update it consistently, though. |
| 14:37 | tcohen | should i just push our 3.8.x branch? |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Or, rather, I update it only with branches that are not getting submitted via bugzilla. |
| 14:38 | tcohen | but u don't push master, and those branches, right? |
| 14:38 | just the branches | |
| 14:38 | jcamins | Right. |
| 14:38 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:38 | jcamins | I push *only* those branches I have edited. |
| 14:38 | Actually, I should prune my github branches. | |
| 14:39 | tcohen | your master's last commit is 2 years old hehe |
| 14:40 | jcamins | I don't have a master branch. |
| 14:40 | That's from when I cloned gmcharlt's repo on github. | |
| 14:41 | (I mean, I don't have a master branch locally) | |
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| 15:02 | wajasu | when i install koha-common, pulling from the kc.org repo, it grabs the latest version, correct? 3.8.5-1 i wonder if that is ok for master, or do i need to use one from 3.9...git...? |
| 15:08 | mtompset | git? |
| 15:08 | wahanui | git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 15:09 | mtompset | Nope... I meant http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#To_use |
| 15:10 | Which version you want is going to affect which repo you grab from, wajasu. | |
| 15:11 | Have fun, people. :) | |
| 15:11 | * mtompset | waves bye. |
| 15:27 | oleonard | libsysguy: I can't reproduce bug 8856 |
| 15:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8856 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Details section of cart always displays 59 |
| 15:28 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 15:28 | I got it on 3 different servers | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | Running master? |
| 15:28 | wahanui | Running master is a lot of work |
| 15:28 | libsysguy | heh true wahanui |
| 15:29 | shoot | |
| 15:29 | both are 3.8.5 | |
| 15:29 | it may just be a 3.8.x bug and I marked it incorrectly | |
| 15:30 | I've updated to reflect | |
| 15:30 | sorry oleonard | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | That's okay. There's still the question of whether it's a bug that was fixed in master or a bug which doesn't exist for some other reason |
| 15:31 | libsysguy | let me see if its on the demo bywater site |
| 15:32 | oh, well demp is on 3.8.0 | |
| 15:33 | nevermind | |
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| 15:45 | libsysguy | morning Joy! |
| 15:47 | talljoy | good morning! |
| 15:56 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:59 | tcohen | wajasu, was you question answered? |
| 15:59 | wajasu | yes. |
| 16:00 | tcohen | let me know when you have time for bug 8773 |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup |
| 16:00 | tcohen | (if u r still interested) |
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| 16:01 | wajasu | my script that auto builds was bailing because the newer koha-common replaced the XML ParserDetails.ini, and since i had a sed script that edited that, it caused a prompt to choose the version my script edited, or the one from koha_common. |
| 16:04 | tochen: i'' give it a try. i used to be able to build new VMs in 4 minutes, but the download of koha-common from the repo must be throttled or slow (75kbps) so it takes much longer to download 45MB) | |
| 16:09 | tcohen: is http://es.koha-community.org/k[…].7807a548_all.deb what you want me to test. ok. i will build the VM without koha-common and install your koha-common fresh, so no biblio is there. | |
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| 16:18 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8728 : Adjust Reserves.t test for resdate and expdate and test setup/teardown <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab56f0fd19c7ff9b7> / Bug 8711 - alternating colors messed up on reports <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e1e48f9a53b9bfa17> / Add a warning if a Z39.50 search is started from biblio edition page. <http: |
| 16:25 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #864 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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| 16:47 | libsysguy | is anybody in today running 3.8.5? |
| 16:52 | wajasu | i was wondering if i should build a test environment today for 3.8.5. do you have something specific you need tested? |
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| 17:01 | libsysguy | yeah wajasu, fines |
| 17:01 | I am showing that they aren't working on my test system | |
| 17:09 | wajasu | if i set up 3.8.5 and checkout a couple of overdues, with is that enough of a usecase and look at an overdue notice, to see how much they owe? or do you have a special corner case? or circ rules? |
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| 17:11 | cait | hi #koha |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
| 17:13 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
| 17:16 | libsysguy | sorry wajasu I was prepping for a conference call |
| 17:17 | and the basic case should be enough | |
| 17:17 | I can't get any fines to accru | |
| 17:17 | accrue* | |
| 17:17 | cait | eek |
| 17:18 | libsysguy | yeah... |
| 17:18 | but I just want to make sure im not the only one | |
| 17:18 | :) | |
| 17:18 | wajasu | libsysguy: when i get back from lunch, i'll set it up and try. a koha-dev env is fine? or do you wnat me to use koha-common? |
| 17:18 | libsysguy | koha dev is good |
| 17:19 | with the 3.8.5 tag | |
| 17:25 | wajasu | right. i'll do git checkout -b finestest v3.08.05 |
| 17:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #864: SUCCESS in 1 hr 8 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/864/ |
| 17:33 | * mtompset: Bug 8350: warning in logs when searching for nonexistent ISBN | |
| 17:33 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7992: New plugin stocknumberAV | |
| 17:33 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8674: Adds script batchdeletebiblios | |
| 17:33 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8674: Followup: Add POD for misc/batchdeletebiblios.pl | |
| 17:33 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8674 follow-up Fix perlcritic error | |
| 17:33 | * frederick.capovilla: Add a warning if a Z39.50 search is started from biblio edition page. | |
| 17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Searching for a 10 or 13 digit string (with a number in it) that does not exist in one's catalog will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding |
| 17:33 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 8711 - alternating colors messed up on reports |
| 17:33 | * matted-34813: Bug 8728 : Adjust Reserves.t test for resdate and expdate and test setup/teardown | |
| 17:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7992 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , new plugin about Automatic Number incrementing inventory. Prefix management from a authorised values list |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8674 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Need a delete biblios script | |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8711 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , alternating colors messed up on reports | |
| 17:33 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8728 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , t/db_dependent/Reserve.t test doesn't use resdate and expdate arguments for AddReserve | |
| 17:34 | magnuse | success! \o/ |
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| 17:36 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "tcohen: i retried your .deb" (367 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/208 |
| 17:37 | wajasu | tcohen: look at what i pasted. I need to break for lunch and will try your suggestions when I get back. |
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| 17:55 | tcohen | jcamins, got my branch on github |
| 17:55 | https://github.com/tomascohen/[…]51aa9ba3625e87878 | |
| 17:55 | now we'll be sharing what we use | |
| 17:56 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
| 18:02 | tcohen | its really nice how github shouws the diffs |
| 18:19 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:19 | wahanui | well, Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 18:20 | oleonard | Hi rangi |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 18:23 | trea | morning rangi |
| 18:31 | drojf | hey rangi |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:31 | wahanui | morning is, like, a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast |
| 18:35 | rangi | Should I read bugzilla email? |
| 18:36 | jcamins | rangi: Ehhh... |
| 18:36 | oleonard | What are you afraid to find rangi? |
| 18:37 | rangi | Enhancements pushed |
| 18:38 | oleonard | Oh, so nothing as fun as Bug 8824 |
| 18:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8824 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, use of windows 7, Firefox V15 and wireless level dns 10.58.2.X versus wired 192.168.x.x |
| 18:40 | jcamins | There is nothing magical about $attributes->{1}, right? |
| 18:40 | I mean, presuming that $attributes is a hashref which includes a key =1. | |
| 18:41 | rangi | Hehe that one was pretty special |
| 18:41 | Nope | |
| 18:41 | I'd quote it, cos I do that for all but that's a style thing | |
| 18:42 | I wonder how far off base my author email is | |
| 18:43 | jcamins | Author e-mail? |
| 18:43 | Oh. | |
| 18:43 | Right. | |
| 18:43 | Ummm... | |
| 18:43 | I don't think that's the issue, but it's UNIMARC. | |
| 18:44 | rangi | Well the comma is an issue |
| 18:45 | One search works, without it, one with it doesn't | |
| 18:45 | jcamins | Yeah, but Zebra is supposed to ignore commas in between fields. |
| 18:46 | rangi | Rowling, != Rowling |
| 18:46 | I don't think it's between fields | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Don't forget this is UNIMARC, so that's actually two subfields: "Rowling" and "J. K." |
| 18:46 | rangi | Not in the search I don't think |
| 18:47 | I think it's doing a phrase | |
| 18:47 | But I highly likely wrong | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | I think fredericd patched it so that facets on UNIMARC authors are magically turned into non-phrase searches. |
| 18:47 | rangi | Ahh |
| 18:48 | My stop bbl | |
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| 18:55 | nengard | if anyone has a moment i have some documentation questions on bug 8597 |
| 18:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 18:56 | jcamins | nengard: yeah, I'd meant to answer them when I saw them in my e-mail. |
| 18:56 | nengard | magnuse regarding your message to me about bug 6030 ? can HTML be used in all notices but overdues? |
| 18:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6030 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Patch doesn't apply , Allow for html in letters in overdue notices |
| 18:56 | jcamins | That feature actually adds an entire new theme which you enable by changing opacthemes to ccsr. |
| 18:56 | This new theme includes a mobile view. | |
| 18:57 | It does not touch the existing template, which is called "prog" (rangi tells me this was supposed to be short for "programmer"). | |
| 18:57 | oleonard | ...back when we thought it would be a base theme on which new themes were built |
| 18:57 | nengard | jcamins when i enable ccsr it breaks the browser view |
| 18:57 | jcamins | oleonard: which it is now. |
| 18:57 | nengard | big time |
| 18:58 | jcamins | nengard: probably the follow-up still hasn't been pushed. |
| 18:58 | nengard | oh!! |
| 18:58 | well that would explain things | |
| 18:58 | cait | oleonard: thx for fixing the search form - the collapsing was partly my fault :) |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Or you are using a custom opac stylesheet. |
| 18:58 | nengard | I'm not |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Yeah, there's a follow-up to make the font sizes come out right. |
| 18:58 | nengard | oh this is not font sizes |
| 18:58 | oleonard | cait: I don't know if my fix is necessarily right, but it seemed like we could do the same thing using an existing design pattern. |
| 18:59 | nengard | I'll put a screenshot on there |
| 18:59 | jcamins - you said one of the style sheets needed a specific setting | |
| 18:59 | can you remind me which that was? | |
| 18:59 | colorstylesheet? | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 18:59 | It must be set to colors.css. | |
| 18:59 | nengard | should be |
| 19:00 | k | |
| 19:00 | i had mine blank... | |
| 19:00 | there we go | |
| 19:00 | a bit better | |
| 19:00 | but not perfect | |
| 19:00 | it puts the nav atthe bottom | |
| 19:00 | isntead of on the right | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 19:00 | nengard | i mean left |
| 19:00 | i'll do a screenshot | |
| 19:01 | * jcamins | didn't write the theme, though, so couldn't say whether that was intentional. |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 19:01 | Not intentional. | |
| 19:01 | rangi has it running on a server and OpacNav is on th eleft. | |
| 19:01 | *the left | |
| 19:02 | oleonard | OpacNavRight also appears on the left :| |
| 19:02 | jcamins | oleonard: OpacNavRight? |
| 19:02 | * jcamins | has never heard of that. |
| 19:03 | oleonard | It shows on the OPAC home page under the login form if you're not logged in |
| 19:03 | nengard | all my navs - right and left and log in show at the bottom |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Is it new? I can't recall ever noticing it. |
| 19:04 | oleonard | Since 2012-06-20 jcamins |
| 19:04 | Bug 3708 | |
| 19:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add another customizable region to the OPAC: right sidebar |
| 19:04 | jcamins | So, fairly new. |
| 19:04 | nengard | jcamins, rangi oleonard see the images i attached |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 19:07 | It almost looks like you triggered the "mobile" view on a regular-sized screen. | |
| 19:07 | nengard | k ? but that shouldn't happen |
| 19:08 | jcamins | No it shouldn't, and I don't know how one could possibly do it, but that's what it looks like to me. |
| 19:08 | maximep | that's weird :S |
| 19:08 | jcamins | maximep: you're the expert on the theme. Any ideas? |
| 19:09 | maximep | never tested with that new right sidebar |
| 19:09 | nengard | it's not the right sidebar that's the problem |
| 19:09 | maximep | or with QOTD |
| 19:09 | jcamins | maximep: what about with the left sidebar. |
| 19:09 | nengard | it's the left and the log in as well |
| 19:09 | and all those things are in master and need to be tested with | |
| 19:10 | when 3.10 is released people are gonna jump on the new mobile option and then they're gonna see this in the browser and it'll be a big mess | |
| 19:10 | mtj | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/[…]-software-patents |
| 19:11 | maximep | nothing can be perfect on the first time, but it's running fine for us |
| 19:11 | nengard | agreed, but it needs to be closer to perfect before 3.10 is released |
| 19:11 | @later tell magnuse regarding your message to me about bug 6030 ? can HTML be used in all notices but overdues? | |
| 19:11 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:12 | maximep | any way to see what you have ? |
| 19:12 | public url ? | |
| 19:12 | nengard | nope it's my local VM |
| 19:12 | I can do a screencast and share the source if you want | |
| 19:12 | or a DB dump | |
| 19:13 | maximep | well yeah, i guess with a db dump I could investigate further |
| 19:13 | * jcamins | is going to theorize that probably the problem is the missing follow-up. |
| 19:13 | nengard | maximep - you can see a bad on here: http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 19:14 | this has custom CSS, but the left and right columns are still not where they belong: http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
| 19:14 | maximep | lol wtf |
| 19:14 | nengard | exactly |
| 19:15 | oleonard | Impossible to see exactly where the problems are though with custom css |
| 19:15 | nengard | that used to look like this: http://model.bywatersolutions.com/ |
| 19:15 | all I care about right now is the fact that the sidebars are at the bottom | |
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| 19:15 | nengard | i know that custom CSS will need to be altered |
| 19:15 | koyauni | hi Koha, |
| 19:15 | jcamins | nengard: does it look right with the follow-ups on bug 8623? |
| 19:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 19:16 | maximep | 404 Not Found - http://catalog.bywatersolution[…]/lib/yui/skin.css" |
| 19:16 | koyauni | my webserver has stopped working and there is no sign of why. when want to restart the web server I get the error message that /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf: No such file or directory Action 'sto |
| 19:16 | nengard | jcamins i can't apply that patch |
| 19:17 | maximep | that probably explains the problem |
| 19:17 | jcamins | nengard: I will try rebasing it when I get a chance. |
| 19:17 | nengard | maximep how do we get that file, all I did on my install was a fetch |
| 19:17 | koyauni | I am not sure what has happened but all my web sites has stopped working as well, |
| 19:17 | nengard | shouldn't it have come with that |
| 19:17 | jcamins | nengard: that's the follow-up. |
| 19:17 | nengard | I too get a 404 on my VM |
| 19:18 | jcamins | Right. That's why we need the follow-up on bug 8623. |
| 19:18 | nengard | k |
| 19:18 | * nengard | needs to rant ?. |
| 19:18 | nengard | I can't seem to document anything because every time i try i find a problem that has a follow up that i have to wait for ? getting frustrtated |
| 19:19 | maximep | yeah we really had to rework tons of theme stuff the our new theme :/ |
| 19:19 | they had to be in different bugs | |
| 19:19 | koyauni | anyone has ran into prob like this that /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf just disappear and system stop working |
| 19:19 | oleonard | jcamins: The patch for 8623 has a double encoding declaration |
| 19:19 | maximep | never had a file disappear, no :p |
| 19:19 | jcamins | koyauni: files don't "just disappear." |
| 19:20 | Either someone deleted it, or someone uninstalled Koha. | |
| 19:20 | mtj | … or plesk deleted it |
| 19:20 | jcamins | mtj: right. Plesk. |
| 19:21 | koyauni: most likely Plesk did something that broke it. | |
| 19:21 | mtj | … after someone did…. something |
| 19:21 | jcamins | oleonard: if you remove the second line, does it apply? |
| 19:21 | koyauni | what is in apache-shared.conf |
| 19:21 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:21 | koyauni | can I recreate that |
| 19:22 | jcamins | koyauni: you'll have to reinstall the Koha package. |
| 19:22 | Fortunately, that's pretty easy with packages. | |
| 19:22 | `sudo apt-get install koha-common` | |
| 19:22 | koyauni | :( that means everything we have done till now will wanish |
| 19:22 | oleonard | nengard: Lots of problems are fixed by that patch to bug 8623 |
| 19:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 19:23 | jcamins | koyauni: probably not. |
| 19:23 | nengard | okay |
| 19:23 | jcamins | koyauni: you won't lose your data, unless Plesk screwed it up. |
| 19:23 | koyauni | will it replace the DB |
| 19:23 | jcamins | No. |
| 19:23 | Plesk might have, though. | |
| 19:23 | This is why we all recommended against using Plesk. | |
| 19:24 | koyauni | we do not us Plesk, it comes with our Dedicated server as we run many other websites on the server |
| 19:25 | mtj | nengard, my advice is… go easy on documenting enhancments that have outstanding 'dependencies' on other bugs |
| 19:25 | nengard | i can't tell that from the commit messages :) I just read the commits and the db update messages and start to use the feature |
| 19:25 | If I was reading all the bug reports I'd never get anything done :) | |
| 19:25 | jcamins | mtj: I'm not sure if there will be a dependency listed there, because 8597 didn't depend on the fix. |
| 19:26 | nengard | but yeah, I think I'll just wait for a bunch more commits before moving forward |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Then 8623 was pushed, by which time 8623 needed a follow-up. |
| 19:28 | oleonard | So here's a question to ponder now that theme-handling has been updated, jcamins: In what way could the "prog" OPAC theme be revised to better serve as a default theme on which others are based? |
| 19:29 | jcamins | oleonard: I shall have to ponder. :)\ |
| 19:29 | koyauni | so I need to go through this pain again then |
| 19:29 | libsysguy | that is a pretty heavy question oleonard |
| 19:29 | koyauni | https://docs.google.com/docume[…]bzsJ3KT9H2JCfq6OQ |
| 19:29 | nengard | i think this goes with what oleonard is asking ? why did we do a new theme for the browsers? Why wasn't a movile CSS added? Now everyone who has custom CSS off of the basic theme will have to redo their templates to be able to have a mobile version |
| 19:29 | jcamins | koyauni: no. You need to run the command I just told you to. |
| 19:30 | oleonard | nengard: Because the new theme incorporates the mobile and desktop versions in one set of templates |
| 19:30 | nengard | I guess I just thought the new theme was based on the old one and added a mobile CSS |
| 19:30 | jcamins | nengard: because we have seen *five* mobile interfaces written, and none was written in a way that would allow people to use both prog and the mobile CSS. |
| 19:30 | nengard | I wonder why not |
| 19:30 | jcamins | The code for this one was submitted to the community, though, which made it possible to make it into a theme. |
| 19:31 | nengard | not blaming anyone in particular, but it seems like we're all making this too hard for the user |
| 19:31 | jcamins | My theory is that mobile themes are the domain of art departments, which generally aren't really into sharing. |
| 19:32 | koyauni: that may not be sufficient, but if all that happened is that Koha got uninstalled, it will fix it. | |
| 19:32 | nengard | or usability ? but Koha is about both - sharing and usability |
| 19:33 | maximep | our mobile view depended too much on our theme |
| 19:33 | oleonard | nengard: Since they didn't share, we don't know how usable the other versions are |
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| 19:33 | maximep | to be able to do a separated mobile.css easily |
| 19:33 | jcamins | oleonard: masthead is the problematic one, I think. |
| 19:33 | koyauni | it says , WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! koha-common Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 19:34 | mtj | nengard, the mobile issue, and new ccsrs themes are different issues here, afaik |
| 19:34 | koyauni | I guess I have no choice but say yes |
| 19:34 | nengard | mtj, you only get the mobile css if you choose ccsr |
| 19:34 | jcamins | koyauni: say yes, the same as you did last time. I would like to point out again that clearly something *very wrong* happened to your server, and you have no reason to expect that it won't happen again if you can't figure out how Koha was deleted. |
| 19:34 | nengard | so i guess what we're saying is there is no mobile view for prog |
| 19:34 | oleonard | That's right |
| 19:34 | wahanui | I know. |
| 19:34 | jcamins | wahanui: thank you. |
| 19:34 | wahanui | jcamins: no worries |
| 19:35 | mtj | nengard, yes, but… the mobile functionaily can be added to the prog theme later (and thats my point) |
| 19:35 | nengard | okay |
| 19:35 | mtj | yes, thats how it is, *currently* |
| 19:35 | nengard | so when i document this i need to make it clear that if you have any custom css at all you don't want to use ccsr |
| 19:35 | koyauni | good thing I did backup 3 days ago |
| 19:35 | nengard | unless you want to customize that one too |
| 19:36 | jcamins | nengard: right, it's a theme that includes a mobile view, not a mobile view. |
| 19:36 | nengard | k |
| 19:36 | mtj | ccsr should tagged as 'experimental' , i think - for this next release |
| 19:36 | * jcamins | hopes that one day one of the other four mobile themes will be submitted and turn out to be CSS only. |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Not holding my breath, though. :( |
| 19:37 | koyauni | this will install 3.8.5 is not it |
| 19:37 | nengard | not sure why we're waiting on others, why aren't one of us doing it (or getting sponsors to get us to do it) |
| 19:38 | oleonard | If it were up to me we wouldn't simply add mobile CSS for prog, we would re-do prog with a new CSS framework |
| 19:38 | So I don't know if that would help you nengard, since custom CSS would still need to be revised. | |
| 19:38 | nengard | okay and what would that take? |
| 19:39 | jcamins | nengard: I'm not doing it because I don't take that sort of project. As for why no one else is, I presume it's because no one wants to pay for it. |
| 19:39 | koyauni: probably, yes. | |
| 19:39 | koyauni | now it is installed |
| 19:39 | mtj | im secrectly planning a bootstrap rewrite of the koha opac, soon-ish |
| 19:40 | oleonard | Please not in secret |
| 19:40 | mtj | (but thats a secret) |
| 19:40 | libsysguy | heh^^ |
| 19:40 | wajasu | jcamins: i'm testing fines acrual for libsysguy and am using git checkout -b finestest v3.08.05 (so that should be ok right?) |
| 19:40 | mtj | so, yeah… its happening nengard , in baby steps (kaizen) |
| 19:41 | koyauni | how do I run stop and restart the websever via SSH |
| 19:41 | jcamins | oleonard: but it's the secret weapon of the Spanish Inquisition: bootstrap. Bootstrap, and comfy chairs. |
| 19:41 | mtj | … the cssr themes are a great start to the opac rewrite |
| 19:41 | jcamins | koyauni: since you use Plesk, I don't know. Usually I would run `sudo apache2ctl restart` |
| 19:42 | mtj | … much hard-coded 'prog' stuff has been fixed/removed |
| 19:42 | koyauni | it says httpd not running, trying to start |
| 19:43 | i guess I have to run that first | |
| 19:43 | jcamins | koyauni: no, that's okay. It said it was trying to start httpd. |
| 19:43 | Now check if it worked by trying to connect to the staff client. | |
| 19:44 | koyauni | :( http://libraryadmin.koyauniversity.org/ |
| 19:44 | it says it is empty, GOD ! :( | |
| 19:46 | that sounds strange I get that for all the domain I have, so something is not right | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | You can try disabling that site by running `sudo a2dissite default` |
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| 19:47 | koyauni | well the nacked domain issue is back I guess the data is there http://library.koyauniversity.org:8080/ |
| 19:48 | jcamins | koyauni: sounds like Plesk is doing something. I can't offer any advice on that, sorry. |
| 19:49 | wajasu | someone remind me what file hase the koha VERSION defined. |
| 19:49 | jcamins | koyauni: you should check in your notes, see if you encountered this before. |
| 19:49 | wajasu: kohaversion.pl. | |
| 19:49 | wajasu | how could i forget |
| 19:49 | koyauni | yes, fixed :) http://library.koyauniversity.org/ hurray ! |
| 19:51 | cait | cait? |
| 19:51 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) or confused, that's why i am asking, and we shout write it down somewhere |
| 19:52 | koyauni | thanks jcamins |
| 19:52 | jcamins | koyauni: you're welcome. |
| 19:52 | wajasu | jcamins++ |
| 19:53 | drojf | i heard cait was somewhere with a dirndl |
| 19:54 | * wajasu | starting up 3.8.5 for fine accrual testing |
| 19:54 | koyauni | does this mean that we latest version now, Koha version:3.08.05.000 |
| 19:54 | drojf | latest stable version, yes |
| 19:56 | cait | apparently wahanui knows better :) |
| 19:56 | drojf: good news about the workshop :) | |
| 19:58 | koyauni | Do you guys think this instruction is save to run today http://www.scribd.com/doc/4519[…]-Support-in-Zebra |
| 20:04 | rangi | back |
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| 20:06 | rangi | weird http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/ works fine for me |
| 20:06 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, that's because you're testing bug 8263 for me. |
| 20:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent |
| 20:06 | jcamins | 8623 |
| 20:06 | Whatever. | |
| 20:09 | rangi | right |
| 20:13 | * wajasu | got my v3.8.5 install running. starting to get something to fine :) |
| 20:16 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 20:17 | libsysguy | w00t |
| 20:17 | thanks wajasu | |
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| 20:22 | sekjal | howdy, #koha |
| 20:22 | jcamins | Hey there, sekjal! |
| 20:22 | libsysguy | sup sekjal |
| 20:22 | rangi | heya sekjal |
| 20:23 | * wizzyrea | does a double take |
| 20:23 | jcamins | Myshkin pounds his head on the keyboard in greeting. |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | hehehehe |
| 20:23 | sekjal | hey, all |
| 20:24 | had a couple quiet moments, wanted to pop in and see how folks are doing | |
| 20:24 | libsysguy | we are all still here :p |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | we miss you :) |
| 20:25 | oleonard | Whatcha been workin' on sekjal? |
| 20:25 | sekjal | mostly design work for the next iteration of the libraries' website, using SilverStripe |
| 20:25 | trying to install Umlaut (Ruby_on_Rails--) | |
| 20:26 | lots of meetings | |
| 20:26 | * cait | waves at sekjal |
| 20:26 | oleonard | meetings-- |
| 20:26 | sekjal | designed a headcounts tool for our learning commons, so they can go around with an iPad/tablet instead of writing it all down on paper |
| 20:27 | * sekjal | waves to cait |
| 20:27 | cait | sounds fun :) |
| 20:27 | rangi | libsysguy: http://soundcloud.com/dubstep/[…]oord-mutrix-remix |
| 20:28 | libsysguy | excellent I've been needing some rangi music |
| 20:28 | this is why im hot is old | |
| 20:28 | but this is a good mix | |
| 20:29 | rangi | not this version isnt old |
| 20:29 | the original is, by mims | |
| 20:30 | libsysguy | yeah I remember when the original came out |
| 20:30 | I was in Jr. High :p | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | omg you are old. |
| 20:34 | >.> | |
| 20:34 | <.< | |
| 20:35 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:35 | libsysguy: you're lucky wizzyrea didn't just kick you for that. | |
| 20:35 | rangi | also http://soundcloud.com/noisia/b[…]mpire-noisia-feed |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | oh I like that one |
| 20:36 | libsysguy | wizzyrea is always picking on me |
| 20:36 | :'( | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | but I lurve you |
| 20:36 | libsysguy | mmhmmm |
| 20:37 | * oleonard | waves goodbye to #koha |
| 20:37 | wajasu | libsysguy: i added a stident, checked out two books, due 1 and 2 days prior to today. i ran misc/cronjobs/files.pl. i see each has a $5.00 charge, with a total of 10.00 |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | byee oleonard |
| 20:37 | libsysguy | well, that is certainly unexpected |
| 20:37 | cait | have a good evening oleonard |
| 20:37 | wizzyrea | not if you have the defaults |
| 20:37 | they have rental charges | |
| 20:37 | on the item type definitions | |
| 20:38 | in the sample data | |
| 20:39 | wajasu | libsysguy: the $5.oo charge is a rental charge i believe. my circ rules charge 1.50 each day with no grace aor suspension for all |
| 20:40 | libsysguy | but the charges were applied and correct |
| 20:40 | wajasu | should i do query against some mysql table? |
| 20:41 | to confirm? | |
| 20:41 | libsysguy | nah |
| 20:42 | if its showing up its there | |
| 20:42 | cait | libsysguy: finesmode setting? |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | charge and apply |
| 20:42 | cait | hmm |
| 20:42 | wajasu | the only thing in 3.8.5 yet is the overdue_notice patch to show fines. |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | well maybe it is a setting |
| 20:42 | I'll go double check my stuff | |
| 20:43 | wajasu | i see my environment is cal for admin only (default) |
| 20:45 | cait | wajasu: it shouldn#t show up on the account then |
| 20:45 | wajasu | right. |
| 20:45 | do you know what table holds the fines? | |
| 20:46 | sekjal | gtg, #koha. Have a lovely [localtime]! |
| 20:46 | cait | accountlines |
| 20:46 | wajasu | ok. only 2 $5.00 charges |
| 20:46 | where are the rental charges configured? | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | in the item type definitions |
| 20:47 | under administration -> item types | |
| 20:47 | wajasu | ok |
| 20:47 | cait | hm |
| 20:47 | are we talking overdue fines or rental charges? | |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | rental charges are what he's seeing |
| 20:48 | cait | oh |
| 20:48 | wajasu | out of the box, rental charges are what i see. of course no fines applied yet for me because I don't have calc and charge set yet. |
| 20:49 | i'll wait for libsysguy to come back with an answer about his environment. | |
| 20:51 | magnuse | @later tell nengard i'm not sure which notices work with html and which don't, but overdues do not work, at least |
| 20:51 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:52 | wajasu | i see 8378 is needs signoff for 3.8.5. it got pushed to master, and i just attached a patch for 3.8.5 so it applies. so i guess someone else need to signoff. though maybe it should be signed off, |
| 20:52 | jcamins | wajasu: check with rangi, but usually it should be left at Pushed to Master. |
| 20:53 | mizstik++ | |
| 20:53 | wajasu | it was, but QA folks reassigned it to 3.8 to keep track of it. |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Oh, okay. I didn't look at the bug. |
| 20:54 | rangi | its a 9kb patch |
| 20:54 | it needs to be signed off | |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Wow! |
| 20:54 | rangi | as working on 3.8.x |
| 20:54 | before i will look at it | |
| 20:54 | jcamins | bug 8378 |
| 20:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Oh, yeah, that one's pretty massive. |
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| 20:54 | rangi | so needs signoff is the right status |
| 20:55 | wajasu | but by someone else other than me, since i wrote it. |
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| 20:56 | rangi | yes |
| 20:58 | magnuse | have a fun night or other time of the day #koha! |
| 20:58 | * jcamins | would probably save that for 3.10, actually. |
| 20:58 | cait | night magnuse |
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| 20:58 | wajasu | it not that big. the pods are the bulk of it. plus i didn't see anything functionally different between the overdue_notice.pl in master that would cause it to break. |
| 20:58 | its already going for 3.10 if its in master, right? | |
| 20:58 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:59 | A change like that, I'd probably tell people "just wait until 3.10 comes out." | |
| 21:00 | Didn't you redo the entire notice system, essentially? | |
| 21:00 | wajasu | no. i was going to do that later once I went through the process. |
| 21:00 | rangi | well you kinda did |
| 21:01 | GetProcessedLetter is a whole new thing | |
| 21:01 | and it needs to be tested with all other notices that use C4::Letter | |
| 21:01 | not just fines | |
| 21:03 | wajasu | all i did was break the prior existing routine up, because I had to preprocess before the <fines> was stripped out. |
| 21:03 | rangi | yep, thats doing a bit more than adding pod :) |
| 21:04 | and it needs a lot of testing in all notices, not just fines | |
| 21:04 | wajasu | i was going to just fix it in overdues, but i realized all notices have the problem of not being stored if certain unicode chars weren't NFC normailzed. |
| 21:05 | rangi | thats fine, all I am saying is it does change things quite a lot, and needs lots of testing, before ill consider pushing it to 3.8.x |
| 21:05 | wajasu | you are correct. |
| 21:05 | risky business. | |
| 21:05 | rangi | yes |
| 21:05 | with the potential to break something like circ notices, and no one noticing until after release | |
| 21:05 | wajasu | so you could wait until 3.10, and if it succeeds, push it to 3.8 ;) |
| 21:06 | rangi | potentially, if it had been demonstrated to work fine on 3.8.x :) |
| 21:06 | rmaints should be even more cautious than RM | |
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| 21:07 | wajasu | i forgot you are maintaining prod. |
| 21:09 | rangi | http://people.gnome.org/~micha[…]oo-comparison.png |
| 21:11 | wajasu | hmm |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | heh |
| 21:13 | * jcamins | thinks that's familiar. |
| 21:13 | koyauni | guys here http://koha-community.org/koha-3-8-0-released/ says that Add ICU option to Koha out of the box (7698) during installation, you now have an option to use ICU. ICU is a unicode library that improve a lot zebra search engine for non latin alphabet catalogue |
| 21:13 | but I did not get this option during installation | |
| 21:14 | do I miss something here | |
| 21:16 | cait | koyauni: were you using the packages? |
| 21:17 | koyauni | yes I installed common package |
| 21:17 | V 3.8.5 | |
| 21:17 | cait | at the moment you can't activate icu with the packages |
| 21:17 | well you can activate it | |
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| 21:18 | cait | but there is no ... switch in the installation process |
| 21:18 | koyauni | :) how |
| 21:18 | cait | you can change the files later on |
| 21:18 | koyauni | yes that what I mean, it did not give me that option |
| 21:18 | cait | I am not totally sure how to do it |
| 21:19 | koyauni | I found this, http://www.scribd.com/doc/4519[…]-Support-in-Zebra do think it is a valid process or it is too old |
| 21:19 | cait | my coworker did and don't have access to the documentation right now |
| 21:20 | hm | |
| 21:20 | I am not sure it's tottally correct | |
| 21:20 | especially the paths | |
| 21:20 | the icu files are there now, you only have to add the right paths in the right config file I think | |
| 21:21 | koyauni | I posted this in hope someone will be able to help http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]-5-td5728633.html |
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| 21:22 | cait | koyauni: looking at the patch I think you only have to change 2 lines in a file |
| 21:22 | http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/016503.html | |
| 21:22 | koyauni | I might need Arabic koha community but I can not write in Arbic |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | ping druthb |
| 21:22 | cait | default.idx |
| 21:22 | koyauni | so, I give it go, which line is it please |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | ICU question |
| 21:24 | cait | if you look at the default.idx file |
| 21:24 | and the patch | |
| 21:24 | wahanui | the patch is in koha-patches |
| 21:24 | cait | you see what you have to change |
| 21:24 | in my installation the last lines for the first 2 paragraphs are | |
| 21:24 | icuchain words-icu.xml | |
| 21:24 | you probably have charmap word-phrase-utf.chr there | |
| 21:25 | koyauni | let me find it please |
| 21:25 | cait | and not sure that is enough |
| 21:25 | someone else might know better | |
| 21:26 | JesseM | larryb_DND i think there is something else up with Detiot Baptist |
| 21:26 | you want to take a look | |
| 21:27 | koyauni | I can not locate idex.idx |
| 21:27 | index | |
| 21:29 | cait | the file name is |
| 21:29 | default.idx | |
| 21:30 | it should be in /etc/koha/zebradb | |
| 21:30 | koyauni | yes I found it http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]-5-td5728633.html |
| 21:30 | sorry | |
| 21:31 | yes it in /etc/koha/zebradb/ | |
| 21:32 | cait | maybe comment the old lines before you put in the icu configuraton line |
| 21:32 | so you can switch back easier if it doesn#t work | |
| 21:35 | koyauni | this is my default.idx now http://kl1p.com/aQO |
| 21:40 | it is sound that mine is not the same as yours , I do not see icuchain words-icu.xml | |
| 21:40 | cait | hm the link does not work for me |
| 21:40 | you shouldn't see the icu line | |
| 21:40 | because that's what you have to put in htere | |
| 21:40 | instead of the charmap line | |
| 21:41 | koyauni | try this please see if you can see it http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
| 21:41 | cait | it should replace charmap word-phrase-utf.chr |
| 21:41 | do you understand? | |
| 21:42 | koyauni | replace it with what, sorry? |
| 21:42 | cait | comment the charmap liines in the 2 bigger first paragraphs by writing a # in front of it |
| 21:43 | then add a new line under those lines with icuchain words-icu.xml | |
| 21:44 | eythian | hi |
| 21:44 | koyauni | I did this please see if it is correct http://kl1p.com/koyauni |
| 21:44 | cait | something like this |
| 21:44 | http://paste.koha-community.org/209 | |
| 21:44 | yes, I think this is it | |
| 21:44 | i hope it wokrs | |
| 21:44 | you will want to reindex | |
| 21:45 | and check it does work | |
| 21:45 | good morning eythian | |
| 21:46 | koyauni | ok, cross the finger then :) |
| 21:46 | jcamins | Is it possible to set $hash{undef}? |
| 21:46 | Or $hash{''} | |
| 21:46 | wajasu | reading about the non-icu words.xml mapping, i wonder if we should just write a tool that a library can run which scans al the searchable fields, and detect diacritics, and generates a word.xml mapping file. |
| 21:47 | cait | wajasu: with icu you don't need a mapping file |
| 21:47 | eythian | hi cait |
| 21:47 | jcamins | wajasu: I think probably using ICU is preferable. |
| 21:47 | Hi, eythian. | |
| 21:47 | koyauni | how do I re-index Zebra please |
| 21:47 | eythian | hello jcamins |
| 21:47 | cait | eythian: i saw that about the dirndl |
| 21:47 | cait? | |
| 21:47 | wahanui | you are in Munich in a Dirndl |
| 21:47 | wajasu | ok. icu it is then. |
| 21:47 | * cait | glares |
| 21:48 | jcamins | What's a Dirndl? |
| 21:48 | cait | a bavarian dress |
| 21:49 | drojf | cait? |
| 21:49 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) or a librarian, you will get wahanui's information or a hero or signing off on wahanui's patch :) or confused, that's why i am asking, and we shout write it down somewhere |
| 21:49 | drojf | lol |
| 21:50 | * drojf | goes to bed, dreaming of cait in a dirndl |
| 21:51 | koyauni | shall I run this for reindexing zebra now # sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v |
| 21:51 | cait | oh no |
| 21:51 | nightmares!! | |
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| 21:54 | eythian | haha |
| 21:56 | koyauni | I ran # sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v , how long does take this to finish |
| 21:56 | cait | it depends on your machine and the number of records |
| 21:56 | eythian | koyauni: typically "a while" |
| 21:57 | cait | eythian: hm, do you need sudo there? |
| 21:57 | eythian | 2 or 3 minutes for a smallish database, an hour for a big one. |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:57 | cait | I haven't used it yet |
| 21:57 | eythian | cait: yep |
| 21:57 | cait | ah ok |
| 21:57 | rangi | and you need the instance name too |
| 21:57 | eythian | that too, yes |
| 21:57 | rangi | or it wont do anything |
| 21:58 | cait | koyauni: your command was incomplete |
| 21:58 | koyauni | no I do not get any results http://library.koyauniversity.org/ , may be it is still indexing :) |
| 21:58 | cait | you have to include the name of your koha instance |
| 21:58 | eythian | also, you should see it talking to you |
| 21:58 | koyauni | ohh sorry, what should it be please |
| 22:00 | eythian | your instance name needs to be on the end of the command |
| 22:01 | koyauni | # sudo koha-rebuild-zebra --full -v library |
| 22:01 | is that it | |
| 22:01 | eythian | see 'man koha-rebuild-zebra' for detail |
| 22:01 | yeah | |
| 22:02 | koyauni | now I can see that is does something |
| 22:02 | eythian | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages <-- koyauni, this may also be useful |
| 22:02 | wahanui: package commands | |
| 22:02 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
| 22:03 | eythian | wahanui: package commands is <reply>They have manual pages, and you can look here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 22:03 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 22:03 | eythian | no wahanui, package commands is <reply>They have man pages, and you can look here: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 22:03 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 22:05 | koyauni | now it is done Records exported: 17086 , but the search does nor work :( |
| 22:05 | no result is shown | |
| 22:06 | eythian | has it finished? |
| 22:06 | do you have your command prompt back? | |
| 22:06 | because the second stage doesn't provide output (annoyingly) until it's done. | |
| 22:07 | koyauni | yes, it is back |
| 22:07 | eythian | it's also worth doing: sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common restart |
| 22:07 | (it's an easy way to fix a common problem of the zebra daemon not running) | |
| 22:09 | koyauni | did that but still no result shown, please search for word Java at http://library.koyauniversity.org/ |
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| 22:10 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "libsysguy 3.8.5 fines accrual test." (27 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/210 |
| 22:11 | koyauni | this means the ICU attempt did not work, |
| 22:11 | eythian | oh, you've been changing configs? Maybe you did that wrong. Do the error logs show anything? |
| 22:11 | * eythian | doesn't really know much about ICU, won't be able to help. |
| 22:12 | wajasu | @later tell libsysguy http://paste.koha-community.org/210 for your test |
| 22:12 | huginn | wajasu: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:12 | koyauni | well we did that with Cat |
| 22:13 | see it here I commented the lines in two first paragraph http://kl1p.com/koyauni | |
| 22:13 | to enable ICU for Zebra | |
| 22:14 | eythian | I don't know ICU, so don't know if that's likely to cause this or not. |
| 22:14 | wajasu | i was testing tcohen's koha-common .deb for him, and he's probably sleeping now. i set up a debian squeeze, with just mysql and apache. then did apt-get update, apt-get -f install. ok. but... |
| 22:15 | koyauni | well it was fully functioned for English/Ltain search, but not for Arabic so we though this might do it, I just reinstate the file again, |
| 22:15 | wajasu | when i did dpkg -i new-koha-common.deb i got a slew of missing perl dependencies errors. shouldn't the package list them and kick off an install of those deps? |
| 22:18 | cait | hm sorry it didn't work |
| 22:18 | was just reading back | |
| 22:18 | eythian | wajasu: no, it shouldn't |
| 22:19 | because dpkg doesn't do that | |
| 22:19 | only apt does that | |
| 22:19 | however, I think if you do something like apt-get -f install afterwards, it'll pull them in. | |
| 22:19 | wajasu | let me see. i recall that behavior. |
| 22:20 | eythian | (I'm not sure about that command, I haven't had to do that in some time) |
| 22:20 | koyauni | well I had to reinstate it and now it is working again for English only |
| 22:20 | cait | koyauni: hm now it works for me - your opac |
| 22:20 | koyauni | http://library.koyauniversity.[…]-search.pl?q=java |
| 22:21 | just for English, | |
| 22:21 | it did not work for arabic | |
| 22:21 | and whole search just stop working | |
| 22:21 | I had to undo what we did | |
| 22:22 | eythian | does adding "icuchain words-icu.xml" mean anything to anyone who's done ICU? |
| 22:23 | koyauni | you see if you search in Arabic it show all 12000 records in the DB http://library.koyauniversity.[…]D9%85%DB%8C%D8%A7 |
| 22:23 | jcamins | eythian: I know it's definitely necessary. |
| 22:24 | eythian | oh, and it's in the config. koyauni, do you have the words-icu.xml file in there? |
| 22:24 | cait | oh right, we should have checked the path |
| 22:25 | koyauni | :) I do not know, I thought this should be part of he pack |
| 22:26 | cait | the file should be in the same directory as the default.idx |
| 22:26 | words-icu.xml | |
| 22:27 | koyauni | where should I look for that file please |
| 22:27 | cait | in the same directory you found the file you changed |
| 22:28 | eythian | find /etc/koha -name default.idx |
| 22:28 | koyauni | ohh, I see I can see it in /etc/koha/zebradb/etc |
| 22:28 | rangi | mtj++ |
| 22:29 | koyauni | it is in the same dir as default.idx |
| 22:30 | cait | eythian: I was looking at this: http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/016503.html |
| 22:31 | but not sure about the paths for a package install | |
| 22:31 | I know uli managed to activate icu in one, but not sure what else was involved | |
| 22:31 | eythian | cait: that's what I was looking at too. |
| 22:31 | I'm not sure, I've never done ICU. | |
| 22:34 | koyauni | I think this should be a default function in Koha, today there is no library with pure Latin records, |
| 22:35 | if we did the process correctly then maybe the indexing had issue that is why it did not work | |
| 22:35 | eythian | There are here :) |
| 22:36 | koyauni | what is here ? |
| 22:36 | wahanui | i think here is where I work |
| 22:36 | eythian | here is NZ |
| 22:37 | koyauni | well, it is 1.37am my time in North Iraq now, and your morning has already started |
| 22:38 | guys thank you, I see how we can fix the arabic indexing issue later | |
| 22:39 | eythian | g'luck |
| 22:39 | and goodnight | |
| 22:40 | cait | good night koyauni |
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| 22:41 | koyauni | good night, and good morning to you, |
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| 22:45 | wajasu | eythian: thanks. tcohen's .deb installed after the apt-get -f install i suppose he would want me to koha-create to test it out. |
| 22:45 | eythian | np |
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| 23:40 | jcamins_away | mtj: if you're QAing things, bug 8623 could use some attention. |
| 23:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 23:40 | jcamins_away | Also.. |
| 23:40 | mtj | yep, will do :) |
| 23:40 | jcamins_away | bug 8622? |
| 23:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Koha themes broken |
| 23:40 | jcamins_away | No. |
| 23:40 | Bug 8827 | |
| 23:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8827 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , YUI CSS files no longer found on Yahoo servers |
| 23:41 | mtj | whats up with kyles dev box? -> fatal: cannot convert from UTF-8utf-8 to UTF-8 |
| 23:42 | jcamins_away | mtj: he has the old, unneeded header thing. |
| 23:42 | wajasu | is that the git .config format header thing |
| 23:42 | jcamins_away | Just remove one of the encoding lines. |
| 23:42 | Yeah. | |
| 23:42 | It'll be fixed in the next version of git. | |
| 23:45 | wajasu | his git is upgraded with the fix, so if you remove it, it won't cause that problem for those of us in newer git versions. (it was needed when he had aan earlier git version). |
| 23:46 | jcamins_away | wajasu: no, I mean it won't matter with the next version of git, because it won't concatenate the headings. |
| 23:46 | *headers | |
| 23:47 | wajasu | i'm stuck. i ran koha-create --create-db dog and enabled the site, mod rewrite etc. but my site is unavailable for maintenance on 8080 |
| 23:47 | i'm testing tcohen's koha-common.deb | |
| 23:47 | jcamins_away | wajasu: you have to go through the installer. |
| 23:47 | It's just the same as any other package install. | |
| 23:47 | wajasu | but the 8080, won't show to run ithe web installer. |
| 23:48 | don't see anything in the logs. | |
| 23:49 | was able to check that mysql connects with koha-conf.xml password. | |
| 23:50 | jcamins_away | If you're seeing a maintenance message then you're connecting to the OPAC. |
| 23:56 | mtj | jcamins, thanks for the git info, too |
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