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| 01:02 | waylon | hiya all |
| 01:04 | to sort_by biblionumber, what do i put in the sort_by param? | |
| 01:21 | jcamins_away | waylon: if you don't sort at all, it may default to being in order by biblionumber. But the only way to be sure is pqf. |
| 01:22 | waylon | .. oh of course! |
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| 01:25 | waylon | wait.. pqf? |
| 01:27 | libsysguy | for the record, I think that datetime::duration objects are dumb |
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| 01:38 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 01:39 | libsysguy | I have a general question about the calendar |
| 01:40 | as it currently stands when computing the difference between 2 dates you are limited to hours and days | |
| 01:40 | however I would like to extend that to all units | |
| 01:41 | would it be best to take an option to my "duration" function to speify the units to return | |
| 01:41 | mtompset | Some library only has on site reading in 15 minute intervals? ;) |
| 01:41 | libsysguy | or just return the DT duration object |
| 01:41 | well I was actually thinking ahead for fines | |
| 01:41 | say a library closes at 6:15 | |
| 01:41 | and you return the book the next day | |
| 01:42 | you are charged from 6:15 pm to 8 am when they open | |
| 01:42 | (maybe) | |
| 01:42 | mtompset | Ah.... true pro-rated granularity. |
| 01:42 | libsysguy | exactly…too long have patrons been getting away with that free 45 minutes |
| 01:42 | :p | |
| 01:43 | mtompset | I'd say... if there is a duration difference function already, then adding a third parameter which defaults to the current behaviour shouldn't be a problem. |
| 01:44 | So if it isn't called with the "return these units" parameter, it defaults. | |
| 01:44 | libsysguy | well the issue is there are 2 functions |
| 01:44 | one for hours and one for days | |
| 01:44 | so I was trying to add some set logic and combine them | |
| 01:44 | mtompset | 2 functions?! |
| 01:45 | libsysguy | yeah... |
| 01:45 | my thoughts exactly | |
| 01:45 | mtompset | EEEEEW! |
| 01:46 | I'd write a third with the extra parameter, and then replace the 2 with calls to the new fangled function. | |
| 01:46 | libsysguy | ok so here is the real pinch |
| 01:46 | http://search.cpan.org/~drolsk[…]eTime/Duration.pm#$dur->in_units(_..._) | |
| 01:46 | notice you can't convert between all units | |
| 01:46 | how retarded is that | |
| 01:48 | mtompset | Oh, and by the way... version 0.77 of date time requires a newer version of perl... |
| 01:49 | which is already part of the reason only 12.04 ubuntu works. | |
| 01:51 | libsysguy | heh |
| 01:51 | yayyy... | |
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| 01:51 | libsysguy | I demand datetime |
| 01:52 | mtompset | You vile Debianist you, libsysguy. :P |
| 01:52 | libsysguy | :p |
| 01:52 | you nailed it mtompset | |
| 01:53 | i used to be a centosian | |
| 01:53 | mtompset | I still like things about yum more than apt-get. |
| 01:55 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 01:55 | its a draw-ish for me | |
| 01:55 | I think i have been using debian based systems for so long | |
| 01:55 | I have forgotten about yum | |
| 01:55 | mtompset | That happens. |
| 01:56 | Actually, what do you mean you can't convert between all the units? | |
| 01:56 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 01:57 | laughs harder. | |
| 01:58 | mtompset | developers! developers! developers! ;) |
| 01:59 | libsysguy | now HW would definitely never show up here |
| 02:05 | mtompset | Hmmm... have you ever heard of Time::Business? |
| 02:05 | libsysguy | I saw that |
| 02:06 | but for fear of introducing something like that | |
| 02:06 | i have been looking for alternatives | |
| 02:06 | mtompset | Yes, I understand. |
| 02:06 | libsysguy | the way we do it now it poo |
| 02:06 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]875925c13;hb=HEAD | |
| 02:06 | line 167 | |
| 02:08 | mtompset | Yes, I scrolled down and was reading that. |
| 02:08 | So the days_between and hours_between are what you were talking about for 2 functions, right? | |
| 02:09 | And that hours_between function is UUUUUUUGLY. | |
| 02:10 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 02:10 | and it assumes 24 hours | |
| 02:12 | mtompset | Isn't there a delta_hours? |
| 02:14 | Why delta_ms? | |
| 02:19 | Actually, if you have something checked out on day x, and it needs to be returned in 5 hours, but the library closed just before you returned it and the library is closed on day x+1, do you charge hourly for the hours the library isn't open, even though the library is closed that day? | |
| 02:20 | I think the 24 hour assumption is reasonable. Not perfect, but reasonable. | |
| 02:22 | libsysguy | there is a problem with conversion on delta_hours |
| 02:22 | that ian and I found when we first tried fixing hourly loans | |
| 02:23 | mtompset, the other issue I have with it is the functionality I am adding for hourly closures | |
| 02:23 | :p | |
| 02:23 | if you don't assume 24 hours you run into all sorts of interesting problems of how to charge people | |
| 02:24 | not logical ones, but pragmatic ones | |
| 02:25 | mtompset | oh, so a library that closes for 2 hours, but you needed to return your item during those two closed hours? ;) |
| 02:25 | libsysguy | right, or you know, push the due dat forward or backward |
| 02:25 | date/time** | |
| 02:25 | anyway I think I am going to rent a movie on Vudu and vege out for a bit | |
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| 06:00 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 06:03 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:03 | cait | hiya :) |
| 06:04 | mtompset | Greetings, magnuse and cait. |
| 06:04 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 06:04 | mtompset | It's been pretty quiet for 4 hours. |
| 06:04 | well, almost 4 hours. | |
| 06:05 | cait | morning mt |
| 06:05 | magnuse | good thing you are here then :-) |
| 06:05 | cait | mtompset: |
| 06:05 | yeah, few people have weekend already now | |
| 06:10 | mtompset | Ah, must be a long weekend for people then, because there's no holiday here today. |
| 06:11 | cait | no but already friday evening in nz for example |
| 06:11 | mtompset | NZ is off by 4 hours... That doesn't explain their afternoon. ;) |
| 06:12 | Or, people arent' having any problems. :0 | |
| 06:12 | * mtompset | can dream of a problemless world. |
| 06:13 | magnuse | yay! http://tetakere.blogspot.no/20[…]-kura-hau-po.html |
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| 06:22 | waylon | ah, ill never remember the name. Still Levin public library right? still part ot the HLT network? |
| 06:23 | magnuse | yeah, havn't heard anything else |
| 06:23 | it's just the building that is called te takere, i think | |
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| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
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| 06:38 | mtompset | Bonjour, reiveune. :) |
| 06:38 | reiveune | salut mtompset :) |
| 06:38 | * mtompset | smiles, "Salut. I like that." |
| 06:41 | waylon | http://www.tetakere.org.nz/ |
| 06:42 | new websites not entirely done i see. | |
| 06:43 | still koha.:) | |
| 06:43 | magnuse | yeah, only the best is good enough :-) |
| 06:45 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:45 | mtompset | Bonjour, alex_a. :) |
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| 06:48 | alex_a | bonjour mtompset |
| 06:50 | mtompset | I suppose greetings to everyone at biblibre are in order. ;) |
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| 06:54 | mtompset | reiveune++ |
| 06:54 | reiveune | ? |
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| 06:54 | mtompset | salut. :) |
| 06:54 | sophie_m | hi mtompset :-) |
| 06:54 | mtompset | Hi, sophie_m. :) |
| 06:55 | * Oak | waves |
| 06:55 | mtompset | Oak! |
| 06:55 | magnuse | Oak |
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| 07:25 | mtompset | Well, now to clean up the tarball/git instructions for Ubuntu, because the packages version isn't getting any tidier as far as I can tell. |
| 07:37 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages | |
| 07:37 | ubuntu? | |
| 07:37 | wahanui | ubuntu is, like, installed. or getting into integrating websites into the desktop, e.g. grooveshark showing up on the sound menu, and things like that. It's an interesting idea. I have the beta installed and it's still quirky, but a great idea |
| 07:37 | mtompset | wahanui forget ubuntu |
| 07:37 | wahanui | mtompset: I forgot ubuntu |
| 07:39 | mtompset | ubuntu has current instructions at: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu |
| 07:39 | ubuntu? | |
| 07:42 | ubuntu? | |
| 07:42 | wahanui | ubuntu is a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. |
| 07:42 | mtompset | ubuntu instructions? |
| 07:42 | wahanui | ubuntu instructions are at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu |
| 07:43 | mtompset | Good enough. |
| 07:43 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:43 | mtompset | |
| 07:43 | wahanui | mtompset is working on the ultimate koha uninstall script for fun. Bug 459. Old school, baby! |
| 07:43 | Oak | :) |
| 07:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script |
| 07:44 | mtompset | That has been stalled. |
| 07:44 | Working on cleaning up my split instructions. | |
| 07:44 | Packages is good. | |
| 07:44 | Git and tarball still need cleaning up a bit. | |
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| 08:26 | mtompset | Bonjour, paul_p. |
| 08:26 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 08:26 | mtompset | I think there was a server split or something for irc. |
| 08:27 | slef | yeah between synthon.oftc.net and graviton |
| 08:27 | over half an hour ago | |
| 08:27 | or maybe on server went down | |
| 08:27 | one | |
| 08:28 | mtompset | I quit and rejoined, just to see if it was me at irc.oftc.net |
| 08:29 | slef | mtompset: oh, I thought you were playing yoyos. |
| 08:30 | mtompset | Not me today. :) |
| 08:32 | slef: By the way, I do agree that we need to be worried about a man in the middle attack, but we already have the potential for that in our existing scripts. | |
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| 08:54 | waylon | man in the middle attack of koha? |
| 08:55 | mtompset | any script we provide (/usr/sbin) could be mailicious replaced on a "mirror" site. |
| 08:55 | mostly due to bad instructions on the internet, because people don't spend the effort to find the official channels. | |
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| 08:56 | mtompset_ | Nope... this isn't it. ;) |
| 08:56 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 08:57 | mtompset | Greetings, kf. |
| 08:57 | kf | hi mtom |
| 08:58 | hi mtompset | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | hiya kf |
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| 09:00 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:00 | kf | hi magnuse |
| 09:00 | mtompset | Greetings again, Oak |
| 09:03 | kf | Oak: Oak |
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| 09:05 | mtompset | My poor netbook... straining at 90% physical memory use for two 512 Koha VMs. |
| 09:05 | on Windows. ;) | |
| 09:08 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 09:08 | mtompset | drojf: i was just thinking about you. ;) |
| 09:09 | As I was working on my VM's. I was wondering if you had your base isntall of a Debian VM set up now. :) | |
| 09:09 | kf | hi drojf |
| 09:09 | drojf | hi mtompset and kf :) |
| 09:09 | mtompset | base install... DOH. |
| 09:10 | By the way, "Ah that spammer" nice way to leave the channel. ;) | |
| 09:10 | drojf | mtompset: a lot of debians and an ubuntu. the koha git thing needs some work so i can finally use it again though |
| 09:11 | also i have not played with nat really | |
| 09:11 | mtompset | nat is fine, but you need to complement it with a host only. |
| 09:11 | Otherwise you can't do updates. | |
| 09:11 | NAT = updates, host only = data entry. | |
| 09:11 | drojf | still feel flu_ish and weird, just got up (11am), not really functional |
| 09:12 | mtompset | sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better quickly. |
| 09:12 | I'm working on the tarball/git instructions for ubuntu right now. | |
| 09:13 | drojf | more sleep would probably be enough, somehow that does not work. i avoided coming back here around 3 or 4 am this time though ;) |
| 09:13 | mtompset | Good idea. |
| 09:13 | more sleep is always good when you aren't on your top game. | |
| 09:14 | drojf | installation with packages on ubuntu 12.04 worked nicely btw, not that it would surprise anyone, but i never tried it myself |
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| 09:15 | mtompset | when did you follow the instructions? |
| 09:15 | Oak_ | hello kf :) |
| 09:15 | magnuse | |
| 09:15 | magnuse | Oak_ |
| 09:15 | Oak_ | mtompset :) |
| 09:15 | * mtompset | waves at Oak_ |
| 09:16 | mtompset | or was this a based on your experience install, drojf? |
| 09:16 | drojf | mtompset: i had to use the debian instructions actually because that is what i would be using at the workshop, also supporting ubuntu only if it works with them. i have seen that the ubuntu page got much smaller though, have not looked at it yet |
| 09:17 | i think there was some crazy mysql stuff that i should tell people though | |
| 09:18 | mtompset | Yes, the security tweak section. |
| 09:18 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]QL_Security_Tweak | |
| 09:19 | drojf | a yes this exactly *adds bookmark* thanks |
| 09:20 | mtompset | That's really the only difference between an ubuntu and debian install. Though, I have details a few more pieces, which I thought were lacking in the Debian Guide. |
| 09:20 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rade_Instructions | |
| 09:21 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]tall_Instructions | |
| 09:21 | These would be identical for packages under Debian. | |
| 09:22 | drojf | out of the scope of what i plan to do, but would be good for those with zero linux knowledge |
| 09:23 | mtompset | I tried to make the Ubuntu instructions as simple as possible. |
| 09:23 | drojf | makes sense |
| 09:23 | mtompset | If you actually only do what are in the text boxes, you will get a working system. |
| 09:23 | The problem is... it will be called library.framisdooby.org | |
| 09:24 | Trying to explain networking to someone with no networking experience is impossible to do. | |
| 09:25 | So sadly, the instructions are best aimed at someone with intermediate computer experience. | |
| 09:25 | The IT Department of the organization should be able to makes sense of the instructions and get it working for their library colleagues. | |
| 09:27 | drojf | i will go with haveing the ip and 80 for opac, 8080 for staff client to avoid any further networking stuff that would be special for each one. if there should really be sysadmins of libraries that work on their own servers, they will know what to do with a little explanation |
| 09:27 | paul_p | keep finger crossed, jenkins should be happy with this push... |
| 09:30 | * mtompset | says a little prayer for jenkins' build. |
| 09:31 | * slef | replies to mtompset with a pretty rant |
| 09:31 | slef | some ideas for possible ways out near the end, though |
| 09:32 | mtompset | checking email now, slef. |
| 09:33 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5335 follow-up fixing template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]97f31b203f373c68d> / Bug 5335 follow-up fix test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]497e01d527f259de5> / Bug 8659 Remove and readd the inactive funds in javascript to make it work in all... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
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| 09:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #856 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #853 6 days 23 hr ago) |
| 09:40 | drojf | go jenkins_koha |
| 09:41 | magnuse | fingers crossed! |
| 09:43 | slef | I love being mailshotted with job adverts, too. |
| 09:46 | drojf | heh that reminds me |
| 09:46 | mtompset | slef++ # for being a paranoid security freak. :) |
| 09:47 | drojf | kf: what about biblimette or bibliomette as a name for a future company? maybe with a nice german closed source fork ;) |
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| 09:48 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 09:48 | mtompset | drojf: You're hilarious. |
| 09:49 | drojf | see, that are things i think about when i cannot sleep ;) |
| 09:49 | slef | biblioubliette - releases a fork and then "throws it over the wall" as abandonware, claiming it's open source really. |
| 09:49 | mtompset | At least your poor health hasn't drained your humour. :) |
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| 10:14 | * slef | chuckles as he spots an old mail from mtompset with "PLEASE DON'T JUST TRY THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM. This is the WRONG solution." |
| 10:29 | mtompset | Yes, well, some people obviously try everything before they ask for help. |
| 10:29 | As seen in our latest posting from a gentleman who was reading a CentOS thread regarding Zebra. | |
| 10:32 | Bah... Forget this... I'm going to go on record with this. | |
| 10:32 | I was thinking Paul might read it and try something stupid. | |
| 10:32 | Yes, Paul, I mean you. | |
| 10:33 | Now we just have to wait for Google to forever keep that on record. | |
| 10:35 | kf | drojf: don't joke about things like this... serious business. |
| 10:36 | drojf: what about bibliorange? | |
| 10:37 | drojf | love it :D |
| 10:38 | mtompset | I can feel the LL love. |
| 10:39 | waylon | wahanui, ptfs? |
| 10:39 | wahanui | i guess ptfs is Piss-Taking Flaming Swines! |
| 10:39 | waylon | wow. |
| 10:39 | drojf | ouch |
| 10:39 | waylon | wahanui, liblime? |
| 10:39 | wahanui | liblime is no brandcuffs |
| 10:39 | mtompset | Yikes! |
| 10:39 | waylon | whos the guy who signed all the liblime commits? |
| 10:40 | head devel liblime? | |
| 10:40 | ah... not important i guess. | |
| 10:41 | mtompset | I guess talking about LL here is like politics and religion in a generic public conversation. |
| 10:43 | drojf | i guess they worked hard on their reputation |
| 10:43 | mtompset | BTW, in order to support Ubuntu 10.04, we'd need 7 perl libraries. |
| 10:44 | HTTP::OAI Locale::Currency::Format PDF::API2::Simple Text::CSV::Encoded DateTime DateTime::TimeZone Template | |
| 10:45 | drojf | -1 for supporting 10.04. i would rather concentrate on future LTS versions on top of 12.04. it is 3 years LTS, right? or 5? in that case i would reconsider |
| 10:46 | mtompset | It's 5 years for SERVER editions. |
| 10:46 | drojf | yes i just read |
| 10:46 | mtompset | 3 years for DESKTOP editions. |
| 10:46 | drojf | in that case it would probably be fair to thik about it ;) |
| 10:47 | mtompset | But if someone is going to install packages, the instructions tell them to use 12.04 |
| 10:47 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 10:47 | mtompset | Though, if someone is using git.... |
| 10:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #856: FIXED in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/856/ |
| 10:47 | * mtompset: Bug 8780 - Lower dependency version for DateTime::TimeZone | |
| 10:47 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8702: System preferences search does not allow accented letters | |
| 10:47 | * maxime.pelletier: Bug 8659 Remove and readd the inactive funds in javascript to make it work in all browsers | |
| 10:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8780 major, P1 - high, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Lower dependency version for DateTime::TimeZone |
| 10:47 | jenkins_koha | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up fix test |
| 10:47 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5335 follow-up fixing template | |
| 10:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 10:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8659 normal, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Master , Inactive funds in neworderempty not disabled in IE/Opera | |
| 10:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT | |
| 10:47 | mtompset | Sweet! my patch made it in. :) |
| 10:47 | drojf | yee-ha! |
| 10:48 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 10:48 | mtompset | That makes debian git installs possible again. ;) |
| 10:49 | (without CPAN) | |
| 10:50 | as I was saying... though, if someone is doing a git install, it would be nice to support 10.04 LTS | |
| 10:50 | drojf | meh that virtualbox networking needs reading i guess. *put on pile of things to do later* |
| 10:51 | mtompset | Oh, which reminds me of another typical problem I encountered. |
| 10:52 | The IP address for the host-only interface would get messed up on an upgrade. | |
| 10:52 | (of the virtualbox software) | |
| 10:53 | drojf | i think anything besides network bridge is not feasible for a workshop. i don't really want to deal with vb there |
| 10:54 | mtompset | But you can only do that on a wired connection. |
| 10:54 | What if you have someone with a wired connection? | |
| 10:54 | WITHOUT... | |
| 10:54 | drojf | works with wifi fine here. also worked in ediburgh in the guest house, but not at the university |
| 10:54 | mtompset | which version? |
| 10:54 | wahanui | which version is, like, recommended |
| 10:55 | drojf | 4.1.18_debian somethingsomething |
| 10:55 | mtompset | Oh, debian as host? |
| 10:56 | drojf | yes |
| 10:56 | mtompset | windows as host is a different monster. |
| 10:56 | drojf | thats another problem, i would not know what hosts other people bring. uah. |
| 10:56 | i suppose all people that would want to use a prebuilt vm would have windows. i dont have one to try that though | |
| 10:57 | :/ | |
| 10:57 | mtompset | Can't you get participants to tell you in advance? |
| 10:57 | drojf | would still not have a windows to try then, but yes, i hope to know what they will be bringing |
| 10:58 | mtompset | If you make it, and put it somewhere where I can sftp it or get it somehow, I can give it a whirl. |
| 11:00 | drojf | thanks, that might be helpful, i may get back to you about that |
| 11:00 | mtompset | when would this be? |
| 11:00 | because early November for me is bad. | |
| 11:01 | drojf | ah i see. don't really know yet |
| 11:01 | maybe i should instead go and get a raspberry pi for everybody | |
| 11:03 | * magnuse | renews koha.no |
| 11:04 | mtompset | As long as it isn't no.koha ;) |
| 11:05 | But drojf, you blew up your git. ;) | |
| 11:06 | drojf | more blew up the sd-card really |
| 11:06 | the other with 3.8.5 is working nicely ;) | |
| 11:07 | mtompset | Overheating issues? |
| 11:10 | slef | magnuse: can I interest you in transferring to a friendly registrar? ;) |
| 11:11 | magnuse | slef: you can try, but for now i will stick with the comfort of the one i have :-) |
| 11:12 | slef | magnuse: well, if you like paying Microsoft indirectly... |
| 11:13 | magnuse | slef: how does that work? |
| 11:14 | slef | magnuse: your current registrar is a Microsoft Gold Partner |
| 11:14 | * magnuse | is indirectly paying ms lots already... |
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| 11:22 | kf | jcamins_away: ping me when you are around? |
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| 11:26 | mtompset | magnuse: how so? |
| 11:26 | magnuse | mtompset: all levels of norwegian government are paying them a ton of money each year, out of my tax money |
| 11:27 | mtompset | because the norwegian government only uses Windows machines? |
| 11:27 | magnuse | yup |
| 11:28 | well maybe not "only", but not far from it | |
| 11:29 | slef | Yeah, but there's stuff that's easier to change than gov.no, like who you buy from. |
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| 11:29 | magnuse | slef: true |
| 11:29 | druthb | o/ |
| 11:30 | magnuse | \o |
| 11:30 | slef | druthb is left-wing saluting, magnuse is right-wing? |
| 11:31 | magnuse | oops? |
| 11:31 | druthb | :P |
| 11:32 | slef | :) |
| 11:32 | * magnuse | is definitely not right wing :-) |
| 11:33 | slef | magnuse: oh, so saluting like that is just a joke to you? That's sort of inappropriate. Next you'll be making jokes about kitten kebabs on amputated limbs! |
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| 11:33 | kf | wah |
| 11:33 | no lunch for me again | |
| 11:33 | slef | kf: it's 1330, not had lunch yet? |
| 11:34 | kf | crazy day |
| 11:37 | mtompset | What was that quote about using the sharpened bones to do something? |
| 11:37 | kf | but you fixed it |
| 11:38 | mtompset | Any one know what jcamins_away meant by "zebra-striping tables"? http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-09-25#i_1087692 |
| 11:39 | jcamins_away | mtompset: rows alternating white and gray. It's called zebra-striping. |
| 11:39 | magnuse | like we have in result lists in the opac, and lots of other places |
| 11:39 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 11:40 | magnuse | and in the irc logs for that matter :-) |
| 11:48 | mtompset | "Fixed bug RT#47929 which caused the XS Stash to die mysteriously when calling code that used string evaluation (e.g. DateTime)." -- This sounds related to a patch I saw, but fixed Koha, not DateTime. |
| 11:52 | slef | mtompset: bug 8738 ? |
| 11:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8738 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , DateTime object being compared to a date string in circulation |
| 11:53 | slef | but I think that was a simple pre-overloading DateTime version used on that server |
| 11:53 | mtompset | Yes, vaguely. |
| 11:58 | Oh yuck... I just read C4::Dates.pm | |
| 11:58 | (3.8.5) | |
| 11:59 | It doesn't use DateTime. | |
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| 12:02 | kf | mtompset: I think that is because it's phased out |
| 12:03 | mtompset | Not fully. |
| 12:03 | kf | well |
| 12:03 | phased out means it's not gone yet | |
| 12:07 | nengard | @later tell mveron the age restriction info is in the manual if you want to review that I wrote it up right: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]RestrictionMarker |
| 12:07 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:08 | nengard | jcamins I also finished the hierarchy bit for authorities: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]hDisplayHierarchy |
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| 12:14 | mtompset | I'm reading the Changes for DateTime... Don't we use DateTime::Event::Recurrence? |
| 12:23 | paul_p | yeah ! jenkins back to stable ! |
| 12:23 | kf | yay |
| 12:23 | paul_p: I tried to explain myself on 5535 | |
| 12:23 | bug 5335 | |
| 12:23 | wahanui | i guess bug 5335 is guilty I think |
| 12:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5335 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , More granular VAT |
| 12:24 | kf | hope it makes more sense now |
| 12:28 | paul_p | kf= it does, and you agree with my proposal ;-) |
| 12:29 | kf | yep I think I do agree with the updatedatabase thing :) |
| 12:29 | it's crazy busy here today | |
| 12:29 | ah right | |
| 12:29 | yeah I agree | |
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| 12:59 | waylon | kf nengard... current branch options in searches, are searching one branch only, or all. Why not instead, a multichoice dropdown? would have to be jQuery right/ |
| 12:59 | ? | |
| 13:02 | nengard | I'd love multi-choice |
| 13:02 | and so would a lot of libraries | |
| 13:02 | I don't know why it's the way it is | |
| 13:03 | mtompset | DropDown's are only single choice (as far as I know), but lists can multi-choice. This means the dropdown would probably need jQuery to give the appearance of multiselect. ;) |
| 13:04 | waylon | yup |
| 13:04 | dropdown checkbox list yes? | |
| 13:05 | sounds good? | |
| 13:06 | mtompset | Hmmm.... I have a gut feeling that isn't quite right. But since I am trying to hunt for multi-arch solutions... I can't help. |
| 13:06 | waylon | jquiery isn't multi-arch? |
| 13:06 | mtompset | No... the dselect installing i386 libraries on an amd64 OS. |
| 13:07 | a problem encountered by tcohen, and ranted about by slef. ;) | |
| 13:08 | nengard | can someone test to see if opachiddenitems is working in master ? it doesn't appear to be working for me |
| 13:10 | nevermind | |
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| 13:21 | kf | @later tell drojf I sent a school library in berlin to the koha users list where your entry is... |
| 13:21 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:27 | kf | drojf: left you a message |
| 13:28 | drojf | . |
| 13:28 | ah, there it is :) thanks | |
| 13:28 | uuh exciting :) | |
| 13:33 | oleonard | If someone implements multi-branch search options please do it on the advanced search page and not the main search bar |
| 13:33 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:34 | and now I am gone :) | |
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| 13:37 | tcohen | mtj, what do u want me to do for that dselect issue? |
| 13:38 | we can leave it like it is now too | |
| 13:40 | mtompset | Greetings, tcohen. |
| 13:40 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 13:40 | mtompset | I'm curious... |
| 13:40 | Have you looked in /etc/dpkg/dpkg.conf.d? | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | yes, it has multiarch enabled |
| 13:41 | dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch: foreign-architecture i386 | |
| 13:42 | mtompset | if you rename the file, the dselect stuff works, right? |
| 13:42 | tcohen | yes |
| 13:43 | mtompset | and I assume dpkg --print-architecture says amd64? |
| 13:43 | tcohen | yes... |
| 13:43 | mtompset | The problem is this multiarch stuff is in flux. |
| 13:43 | From what I've been googling around... | |
| 13:44 | tcohen | yes, dselect prefers foreign architecture over native |
| 13:44 | mtompset | the location of the multiarch files and how it is done will change. |
| 13:44 | tcohen | there's a bug on that |
| 13:44 | mtompset | Yes, I saw the bug. :( |
| 13:46 | Perhaps we should create a documentation page on dealing with multiarch? | |
| 13:46 | tcohen | i'll try to see what can be done on the dselect front |
| 13:46 | maybe it will be the same amount of time this discussion will take | |
| 13:48 | D'oh: "Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be many people wanting to | |
| 13:48 | *maintain* dselect, so I suspect this bug report to remain opened for | |
| 13:49 | a very long time, probably until someone decides that keeping an | |
| 13:49 | unmaintained softwar ein the archive is not worth it" | |
| 13:53 | mtompset | Well, here's the thing... Debian is going multiarch with Wheezy. |
| 13:53 | Hopefully, they'll have fixed this problem when Wheezy comes out. | |
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| 13:53 | mtompset | which doesn't solve our problem now. |
| 13:54 | tcohen | Read the pre-last comment http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin[…]rt.cgi?bug=664893 |
| 13:56 | mtompset | Hmmm.... |
| 13:56 | does aptitude use the dpkg --set-selections? | |
| 14:00 | Yes, I think it does. | |
| 14:00 | instead of sudo dselect... | |
| 14:00 | tcohen | yes, thats what I was trying |
| 14:00 | mtompset | attempt a sudo aptitude install |
| 14:02 | waylon | oleonard, why do you say that? |
| 14:02 | tcohen | mtompset, it appears to have a similar problem |
| 14:03 | oleonard | waylon: Because the main search bar (in my opinion) should remain simple |
| 14:03 | tcohen | the difference is that it cannot choose one or the other arch and proposes not to install :-D |
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| 14:04 | waylon | oleonard, hmm? the main search bar already includes a branch dropdown. |
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| 14:04 | oleonard | Yes, and adding more complexity to that, in the form of some kind of multi-branch selection widget, would make it more complex |
| 14:04 | jcamins | nengard: perhaps you could say "... with linked broader and narrower see also references." |
| 14:04 | oleonard | (to be perfectly redundant :P ) |
| 14:05 | waylon | if its multibranch mode (which im adding) why not dropdown a multibranch selector? |
| 14:05 | nengard | jcamins - where exactly? or just in general? |
| 14:05 | oleonard | I don't know how you define "multibranch mode" |
| 14:05 | jcamins | "If your authority records include 5xx fields with linked references to broader and/or narrower terms..." |
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| 14:06 | nengard | got it |
| 14:07 | waylon | multibranch mode adds ability to search more than one specific branch at a time. Allows users to be assigned multiple branches. And with the new security option im adding, only those assigned branches. |
| 14:07 | tcohen | mtompset: will make the script to print the full command the user should execute as mtj suggested on the email |
| 14:09 | jcamins | waylon: I think a dropdown in the masthead would be unnecessary complexity. |
| 14:09 | oleonard | waylon: Yeah, at this point I would still say that the main search bar should not include any more-complex controls. |
| 14:09 | jcamins | It's not something that would be used very frequently at all. |
| 14:09 | waylon | jcamins, thought a dropdown already exists in the masthead? |
| 14:10 | jcamins | If you needed it for Mamduha (sp?), you could jQuery it into existence. |
| 14:10 | waylon | the options there for it syspref.. and the template already shows it. |
| 14:10 | mtompset | Yes, but multiple choice in the masthead is not something most people would do. |
| 14:10 | waylon | ah |
| 14:10 | jcamins | waylon: but regular dropdown controls allow only a single choice. Also, we already have that. |
| 14:10 | Adding another would be a bit much. | |
| 14:11 | waylon | right. advanced search then. |
| 14:11 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:12 | waylon | and yea, i guess i could overwrite using jquery, the dropdown, hooking in the multi, for mandumah's templates. |
| 14:12 | * waylon | hopes that the designer doesn't make my life a living hell. |
| 14:13 | waylon | okay, sleep time. |
| 14:13 | night all! | |
| 14:13 | oleonard | mandumah? |
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| 14:13 | waylon | www.mandumah.com |
| 14:14 | waylon? | |
| 14:14 | wahanui | well, waylon is the 33rd developer of Koha, currently working for Mandumah.com, a digital library archive. Hes currently porting koha 3.0 modifications to Koha 3.10. |
| 14:14 | oleonard | Ah, thanks :) |
| 14:14 | waylon | yea... long road ahead of me. |
| 14:14 | and it pays to take it carefully. | |
| 14:14 | laters all. | |
| 14:15 | oleonard | This community is awesomely international. |
| 14:15 | mtompset | They advantage of jquery is... it will upgrade nicely in the future. ;) |
| 14:15 | jcamins | Mostly. |
| 14:16 | A lot better than template modifications, though. | |
| 14:17 | * mtompset | coughs, "Paul." |
| 14:17 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:17 | waylon | will havta talk to you guys about it later, yup |
| 14:17 | gone. | |
| 14:17 | jcamins | And where it's not perfect, it's still not too bad. |
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| 14:18 | jcamins | I put a script on the wiki which requires different code between 3.8 and 3.10. |
| 14:18 | mtompset | Yes, but a script is still in the DB, if you swap it to a new machine. |
| 14:18 | Won't accidentally forget to copy it. | |
| 14:19 | * jcamins | knows someone who could probably manage. :P |
| 14:19 | * mtompset | laughs, "Paul." |
| 14:19 | mtompset | If you read this Paul, you have a reputation. Sorry. |
| 14:22 | oleonard | does exporting records using a call number range not work? |
| 14:22 | It doesn't for me | |
| 14:23 | jcamins | packages? |
| 14:23 | wahanui | it has been said that packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 14:23 | jcamins | oleonard: it did when I was playing with the export functionality. |
| 14:23 | oleonard | Hm, okay. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | jquery library? |
| 14:23 | wahanui | somebody said jquery library was found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 14:26 | jcamins | git? |
| 14:26 | wahanui | i think git is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 14:26 | jcamins | install.debian? |
| 14:26 | wahanui | well, install.debian is at git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian |
| 14:27 | mtompset | Is there a method to your madness, jcamins? |
| 14:27 | jcamins | mtompset: yes. wahanui is providing me with the links that I want to put in an e-mail. |
| 14:28 | oleonard | Does wahanui do spell check too? |
| 14:28 | wahanui: How do you spell acccommmodate? | |
| 14:28 | wahanui | oleonard: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:28 | mtompset | wahanui: what is a bugger? |
| 14:28 | wahanui | mtompset: wish i knew |
| 14:29 | mtompset | what? |
| 14:29 | ubuntu? | |
| 14:29 | wahanui | ubuntu is probably a debian-based OS and Koha has shiny new ubuntu intructions. |
| 14:29 | mtompset | ubuntu instructions? |
| 14:29 | wahanui | ubuntu instructions are at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Ubuntu |
| 14:30 | mtompset | Still working on the git/tarball instructions. |
| 14:30 | But packages is good. :) | |
| 14:30 | but packages? | |
| 14:30 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 14:30 | mtompset | good |
| 14:34 | jcamins | manual? |
| 14:34 | wahanui | hmmm... manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 14:37 | oleonard | I contend that exporting records using a call number range does *not* work. |
| 14:37 | jcamins | oleonard: I believe you. |
| 14:37 | The last time I tested was... | |
| 14:37 | ummm... | |
| 14:37 | wait. | |
| 14:37 | Didn't I file a bug about that? | |
| 14:38 | Exporting records using *biblionumber* range worked. | |
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| 14:40 | SzosszeNET | Hi guys, sorry I'm totally new to Koha and want to install it to debian (with separate mysql), but seems I'm lost an looping... |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Not that I know where that bug might be. |
| 14:40 | SzosszeNET | could someone point me the right direction? |
| 14:40 | jcamins | debian? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | i heard debian was what most people use and there are good manuals and even packages for that |
| 14:40 | jcamins | packages? |
| 14:40 | wahanui | somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 14:41 | jcamins | There we go. |
| 14:41 | Those are the best instructions to follow. | |
| 14:41 | Are you following those instructions? | |
| 14:41 | SzosszeNET | sure :) |
| 14:41 | however in my case http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]rate_MySQL_server was also needed | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Okay, where did you run into problems? |
| 14:44 | SzosszeNET | well, nor the db is populated (it's empty) :) An nothing on port 8080 or 443 (wish to run it on https) |
| 14:45 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: you have to run through the web installer to initialize the database. |
| 14:45 | And you'll need to edit the Apache config file to adjust it to use HTTPS. | |
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| 14:46 | SzosszeNET | accoring to /etc/apache2/ports.conf it does listen on 443 |
| 14:47 | the web installer is supposed to run on 8080 right? | |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Right, it's listening on 443, but you have to set up the virtual host to actually use that port. |
| 14:47 | The instructions walk you through doing a standard install using HTTP. Setting up HTTPS is a site-specific thing. | |
| 14:49 | But you already have a certificate, I presume, so you can just enable HTTPS and carry on. | |
| 14:50 | SzosszeNET | no, I don't have certificate yet |
| 14:50 | that's the last task for me :) First I want to make koha work | |
| 14:51 | strange, just reverted to a minimal setup snapshot | |
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| 14:51 | SzosszeNET | issued koha-create --use-db groupkoha |
| 14:51 | have to sql errors : ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation CREATE USER failed for | |
| 14:51 | jcamins | In that case, I suggest that you use HTTP for the configuration. |
| 14:51 | SzosszeNET: I thought you said you had MySQL on a different server? | |
| 14:52 | SzosszeNET | defined in /etc/mysql/koha-common.cnf |
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| 14:53 | oleonard | Bug 8843 |
| 14:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8843 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Cannot export bibliographic records by call number |
| 14:53 | SzosszeNET | and it did call that db created the users |
| 14:54 | and wow, now I have "Software error:" on port 8080 :) | |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Okay, so you are further along than I realized. |
| 14:55 | SzosszeNET | "Access denied for user 'koha_groupkoha'@'groupkoha01.domain.group' (using password: YES) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 758." |
| 14:55 | brilliant :) | |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Right. |
| 14:55 | SzosszeNET | is it? |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Most likely all you need to do is set the password for 'koha_groupkoha'@'%' to match the automatically generated password in /etc/koha/sites/groupkoha/koha-conf.xml |
| 14:57 | SJeffery | So what is the word on Koha RDA records support? From the RFC on the wiki and the lack of tickets it seems as though there is zero support? |
| 14:58 | jcamins | SJeffery: unfortunately, that is pretty much accurate. |
| 14:59 | * jcamins | is generally the one dealing with MARC21 standard issues, and I'm not getting a whole lot of interest in RDA yet. |
| 14:59 | SzosszeNET | jcamins : nope... |
| 15:00 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: did I tell you that you have to make sure to set the password to match the *last* password in that file? |
| 15:00 | * jcamins | thinks he didn't. |
| 15:00 | SzosszeNET | under serverinfo found in the xml : <user>koha_groupkoha</user> <pass>geidochi</pass> |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Okay, you figured that out. :) |
| 15:01 | SJeffery | Will importing RDA records actually break anything or cause any weird display issues? |
| 15:01 | jcamins | So, uh, you're going to change those passwords now, right? |
| 15:01 | SzosszeNET | not stupid just noob to koha :D |
| 15:01 | jcamins | SJeffery: nope, you just won't get the data from the new 3xx fields showing up. |
| 15:02 | SzosszeNET: these things bear repeating... you'd be surprised how many people make that mistake. | |
| 15:02 | SzosszeNET | jcamins : grr... |
| 15:03 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: are you able to login using mysql from the command line on the Koha server? |
| 15:03 | SzosszeNET | don't understand something : define my host,user under /etc/mysql |
| 15:03 | koha creates koha_ prefixed ones | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:04 | SzosszeNET | also to the db - and seems can't work with them with modification... |
| 15:04 | now I changed the /koha-conf.xml to use the db user I created and seems ok ;) | |
| 15:04 | not a complaint, just want to know about koha :) | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I'm not sure what exactly happened... usually that just works for me. |
| 15:06 | But then usually I don't use koha-create directly to create databases on remote servers. | |
| 15:06 | SzosszeNET | hmm |
| 15:08 | than what would be than the good way for remote db setup? | |
| 15:10 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I run a script to create the DB and stick the password into my /etc/koha/passwd file, then use --use-db. |
| 15:10 | Usually. | |
| 15:11 | SzosszeNET | okay |
| 15:11 | anyway I'm playing with koha at the moment and explorering it | |
| 15:11 | so I'll reinstall anyway | |
| 15:11 | and is there any possibility to get rid of the koha_ prefix? :) | |
| 15:12 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: you could, by simply changing koha-conf.xml, but don't. |
| 15:12 | SzosszeNET | I mean groupkoha user is quite right for me :) |
| 15:12 | :D | |
| 15:12 | okay | |
| 15:14 | jcamins | How do you pronounce your nick? It looks like Hungarian, in which case 'sz' would be pronounced like /s/ in English, but the "ssz" is throwing me off. |
| 15:14 | mtompset | the koha_ prefix makes scripting for db's easier. :) |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Much easier. |
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| 15:20 | * jcamins | figured it out, never mind. |
| 15:21 | SzosszeNET | Jcamins yes Hungarian ;) |
| 15:21 | hmm like the s in sea? | |
| 15:22 | quite robot, but if you set google translate to hungarian it's almost :) | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | I don't speak any Hungarian, alas. Well, other than "Koszonom." |
| 15:22 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:22 | SzosszeNET | and of course tell to translator to pronounce :) |
| 15:23 | oh, yes :) | |
| 15:23 | the ssz is a double sound | |
| 15:24 | * jcamins | kept on trying to say it "Szos'sze" and getting his tongue tangled up. |
| 15:24 | SzosszeNET | the normal letter is sz, but if its doubled would be szsz, but our beutiful grammar tells that it's not correct form, it should be written as ssz |
| 15:25 | sorry for it :) | |
| 15:25 | hiss ;) | |
| 15:25 | mtompset | What if it were really ssz and not sz-sz? |
| 15:25 | jcamins | It's good. Now I know that 'ssz' in Hungarian is pronounced 'szsz'! :) |
| 15:25 | mtompset | That's a tongue twister too. |
| 15:25 | considering the word started with sz. | |
| 15:26 | SzosszeNET | hmm :) well Hungarian langue likes joining existing words, but ie English does not really like it - so interesing thingking ;) |
| 15:27 | anyway that case s an sz are pronounced separately | |
| 15:27 | ie sasszem where sas+szem (eagle+eye) | |
| 15:28 | mtompset | That's not as hard, because you started with the same sound. |
| 15:28 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I think I need to practice if I want to say "sasszem" without switching it to "saszsem" |
| 15:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8726: add CSS to CCSR theme <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b1f45e75a5fcf426f> / Bug 8726: Followup FIX save didyoumean syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e6d172c493ac4e683> / Bug 8726 follow-up: fix QA issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0f3e211844c2336e6 |
| 15:29 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:29 | Anyway, I didn't mean to distract you from Koha. :) | |
| 15:29 | mtompset | got to love morphological differences which hide the phonological reality. |
| 15:29 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 15:29 | * jcamins | met his wife in Budapest. |
| 15:29 | SzosszeNET | I'm not distracted :) |
| 15:30 | hmm and she's not Hungarian? | |
| 15:30 | :D | |
| 15:30 | jcamins | Nope. She's from rural Virginia, actually. |
| 15:30 | SzosszeNET | wow :) |
| 15:30 | and might I ask where are you from? | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | New Jersey... about an hour and a half from New York, where we live now. |
| 15:31 | SzosszeNET | I live in Scotland ;) |
| 15:31 | * jcamins | loves Scotland! |
| 15:32 | mtompset | And while we're all talking about nationalities and locations. I'm a Canadian in the Philippines. :P |
| 15:32 | SzosszeNET | cause of the Scotch? :D |
| 15:32 | how small the world is huh? :) | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | I don't drink whiskey, but I studied in Edinburgh and it's my second-favorite city in the world (after Budapest, obviously;). |
| 15:33 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 15:33 | well, check Bratislava | |
| 15:34 | Vienna | |
| 15:34 | jcamins | We'd like to take a trip to Bratislava and Vienna. |
| 15:34 | SzosszeNET | they are also lovely if speaking about capitals |
| 15:35 | jcamins | My wife really likes Tallinn, too. |
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| 15:35 | mtompset | jcamins: Did you mention the other day that zip or unzip were required from some functionality in Koha? |
| 15:35 | jcamins | mtompset: yes. |
| 15:36 | * oleonard | visited Bratislava, stayed at a YMCA which had a movie theater on the ground floor |
| 15:36 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 15:36 | mtompset | both, or just one of them? |
| 15:36 | jcamins | mtompset: just unzip, I think. |
| 15:37 | mtompset | There it is... unzip. |
| 15:37 | bunzip2? | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | mtompset: that's something else. |
| 15:38 | mtompset | It's referenced in the code. |
| 15:38 | ./misc/cronjobs/social_data/update_social_data.pl | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Only in a sample cron script. |
| 15:39 | oleonard: do you have UseICU turned on or off? | |
| 15:39 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 15:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #857 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 15:40 | oleonard | jcamins: Off, same as in the ByWater demo |
| 15:40 | jcamins | Well, darn. There goes that theory. |
| 15:40 | mtompset | Shoot... I think we need to update the ubuntu .packages files. They don't have unzip. |
| 15:50 | SzosszeNET | hmm, so port 8080 works, but 80 just gives "It works" but there should be opac, no? |
| 15:50 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: probably you don't have DNS set up yet? |
| 15:51 | The easy solution is to run `sudo a2dissite default` and `sudo apache2ctl restart` | |
| 15:52 | SzosszeNET | I do ;) I accessed fqdn:8080 |
| 15:52 | jcamins | In that case, it sounds like there's an extra period or something in the site file. You can just open that up and edit it. |
| 15:53 | SzosszeNET | oh no, the disable of the default site did solve my issue ;) |
| 15:54 | oleonard | Guh, I hate running across a dumb change to the template and finding out it happened 3 years ago and I just didn't notice |
| 15:54 | jcamins | oleonard: me too. |
| 15:55 | * oleonard | wants to be template-omniscient |
| 15:55 | SzosszeNET | :) |
| 15:55 | oleonard | ...among other omniscients. |
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| 16:16 | oleonard | You'd think by now I'd recognize commit 77b64098, the black hole of template commits. |
| 16:17 | SzosszeNET | hmm just realized that /etc/koha/koha-conf-sites.conf - what I put in it does not matter? :D |
| 16:18 | jcamins | That's just for creating new instances. |
| 16:18 | Once you've created an instance, you need to edit the Apache site file. | |
| 16:19 | SzosszeNET | okay, but what's in there was not used at all :D |
| 16:19 | probably I need to calm down I do what I hate - read admins manual :D | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | It's always worked for me. Though the file is actually /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf. |
| 16:20 | Which may be your problem. | |
| 16:20 | Ever since you started talking to me, though, there hasn't been any point in editing that file. You already created the instance. | |
| 16:22 | SzosszeNET | yep, but created the file based on the install tutorial, than went for the db init, but I don't feel that file was used to with my implementation it's not neccesary - however cannot explain why :D |
| 16:22 | anyway no problem, I'm already playing with the apache conf ;) | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Fun fact: at some point Isengard was ruled by a man named Luigi. I don't know if he was from Numenor or Gondor. :) |
| 16:33 | SzosszeNET | :) Italy ;) |
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| 16:34 | SzosszeNET | on apache2 it's quite clear that OPAC is on port 443 from now, but how do I archive to put Intranet as well to 443, but /admin ie? |
| 16:35 | * cait | waves |
| 16:35 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I do not think that's easily achievable. |
| 16:36 | SzosszeNET | kidding "INTRASUFFIX="admin" # For administration interface URL: Suffix to be added to the instance name. " from /etc/koha/koha-conf-sites.conf isn't for this? |
| 16:37 | jcamins | No. |
| 16:37 | That's for a subdomain. | |
| 16:37 | You can't easily run Koha out of a subfolder. | |
| 16:38 | SzosszeNET | okay |
| 16:38 | than 443 and 8443 :) | |
| 16:39 | let's see ad auth :) | |
| 16:40 | does /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml stand for /etc/koha/koha-conf-site.xml.in ? I don't have the first file just the second | |
| 16:41 | oleonard | Could Bug 8686 be caused by an older version of URI::Escape? Mine is 3.31, ByWater's demo has 3.30. The escaped output of a variable appear different for each |
| 16:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8686 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , author search in staff missing checkboxes and menu |
| 16:41 | oleonard | ...leading to a JS error in the ByWater demo, leading to the symptoms of the bug. |
| 16:42 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: no, /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml is equivalent to /etc/koha/sites/groupkoha/koha-conf.xml. |
| 16:43 | SzosszeNET | thanks :) |
| 16:46 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #857: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/857/ |
| 16:46 | * christophe.croullebois: Bug 7351 : feature that allows to delete a range of dates | |
| 16:46 | * jcamins: Bug 8726: ExplodedTerms suggestion plugin (functionality) | |
| 16:46 | * jcamins: Bug 8726: ExplodedTerms suggestion plugin (jQueryUI) | |
| 16:46 | * jcamins: Bug 8726 follow-up: fix QA issues | |
| 16:46 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8726: Followup FIX save didyoumean syspref | |
| 16:46 | * jcamins: Bug 8726: add CSS to CCSR theme | |
| 16:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7351 enhancement, P3, ---, christophe.croullebois, Pushed to Master , ability to edit a range of holidays |
| 16:46 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8726 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Did you mean? plugin for broader/narrower/related terms | |
| 16:47 | cait | and back to unstable :( |
| 16:47 | jcamins | cait: when rangi wakes up he'll run updatedatabase. |
| 16:47 | Well, at some point after waking up. | |
| 16:47 | cait | ah good |
| 16:49 | drojf | i see four search bars instead of a tab control on the staff client mainpage from git that i just checked out. is that the code or an error in my koha-conf.xml? |
| 16:49 | jcamins | drojf: Alt-refresh. |
| 16:49 | You switched beetween 3.6.x and 3.10.x. | |
| 16:53 | drojf | 3.8 and 3.10 actually. refreshing, clearing cache, deleting cookies… did not work. |
| 16:53 | jcamins | That's very odd. |
| 16:54 | That happens to me all the time when switching between 3.6.x and master, and it's always solved by an Alt-refresh to force a reload of the CSS and Javascript. | |
| 16:54 | mtompset | I hate stale CSS! |
| 16:54 | drojf | yes i think i have seen it before and it was easy to get rid of |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Possibly a Ctrl-refresh. |
| 16:55 | Not a Shift-refresh, though. | |
| 16:57 | drojf | its ctrl-refresh here but that does not help. funny |
| 16:57 | jcamins | drojf: any javascript errors? |
| 16:57 | Perhaps Paul pushed something incompatible with 8726 right before it? | |
| 17:00 | drojf | firebug indicates a red "2" which is probably not good. now to find out where it tells me what that means |
| 17:01 | missing jquery-things | |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Maybe if you click it it will tell you what the errors are? |
| 17:01 | drojf | "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://192.168.1.25:8080/intra[…]ery/jquery-ui.css" |
| 17:01 | "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://192.168.1.25:8080/intra[…]uery/jquery-ui.js" | |
| 17:01 | $("#header_search > ul").tabs is not a function | |
| 17:02 | oleonard | drojf: In master? |
| 17:02 | drojf | yes |
| 17:03 | jcamins | Odd. I see those files. |
| 17:03 | drojf | i see them too |
| 17:03 | that's interesting | |
| 17:04 | i'll try a differerent browser maybe | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Don't see how it could be a browser thing. |
| 17:09 | (not that I had any other ideas) | |
| 17:20 | drojf | oops. seems i confused virtual machines at some point, this one has the fixed koha-conf.xml but the apache-shared-*.conf files are not fixed. my bad |
| 17:20 | jcamins | drojf: so it's working? |
| 17:21 | drojf | it will be in a minute, i assume |
| 17:21 | it is working quite well for that error on my side ;) | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 17:23 | oleonard: well, I guess that means the staff client *does* work without javascript. | |
| 17:28 | drojf | looks all good now |
| 17:28 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 17:28 | drojf | so let's break it with my old .git folder ^^ |
| 17:29 | jcamins | Ummm... |
| 17:29 | You should be copying the entire repo over, not just kohaclone/.git | |
| 17:29 | drojf | or maybe i'm sane for once, make a copy of the machine before i do anything else so i can actually use something |
| 17:29 | jcamins: i was afraid you would say that | |
| 17:30 | jcamins | If you copy over .git, it will not know what you currently have checked out. |
| 17:30 | I suppose you might be able to restore normalcy by doing a git reset --hard after the copy. | |
| 17:30 | Maybe. | |
| 17:31 | SzosszeNET | how could I debug active directory ldap? I mean it's set, koha runs, but cannot login with my ad user |
| 17:31 | drojf | i think i will try at least. i cannot untar my archive of the old folder for some reason, if i have to transfer it unpacked that will take a while |
| 17:31 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I don't know much about the LDAP configuration. Other than that it's very finicky. |
| 17:32 | drojf: better idea. | |
| 17:32 | drojf: create a new empty kohaclone directory. | |
| 17:32 | Copy the .git folder in there. | |
| 17:32 | SzosszeNET: libsysguy did a blog post about configuring Koha with LDAP. | |
| 17:32 | drojf | jcamins: makes sense |
| 17:32 | jcamins | drojf: then, once it's finished copying, do a git checkout [branchname] |
| 17:33 | drojf: the files outside .git are going to be a heck of a lot smaller than files in .git, though. | |
| 17:33 | libsysguy | yup |
| 17:33 | http://bywatersolutions.com/2012/07/09/koha-ldap/ | |
| 17:35 | SzosszeNET | ... have deb install |
| 17:56 | libsysguy any other hint? These files do not exist in my config ~/koha-dev/var/log... | |
| 17:56 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: the log files will be in /var/log/koha/ |
| 17:56 | I think. | |
| 17:58 | SzosszeNET | okay, but those do not contain anything releated to login attempts... |
| 18:01 | oleonard | nengard: did you check your installation's version of URI::Escape? |
| 18:01 | I did so via the about page | |
| 18:02 | nengard | URI::Escape 3.30 |
| 18:02 | not highlighted in red or yellow | |
| 18:02 | so it's the right version isn't it? | |
| 18:02 | oleonard | But there is a newer version, since I have 3.31 |
| 18:02 | nengard | hmmm |
| 18:03 | do we need to update something on the about page to make it clear that the newer version is required? | |
| 18:03 | and how do i update it using cpan? | |
| 18:03 | oleonard | I don't know what the solution is, but I'm curious whether upgrading fixes the problem for you. |
| 18:04 | nengard | okay, how do i update it using cpan? I think that's what i used to install it |
| 18:04 | libsysguy | sorry SzosszeNET I stepped away |
| 18:05 | you will probably have a hard time trouble shooting | |
| 18:05 | nengard | oleonard i don't think that was the module! |
| 18:05 | it works now and i updated a bunch of other modules today | |
| 18:05 | libsysguy | I always have to go in and add my own output to Auth_with_ldap.pm |
| 18:05 | nengard | one of those |
| 18:05 | wahanui | one of those is entirely extraneous. |
| 18:05 | drojf | rofl |
| 18:06 | oleonard | Hang on, afk. |
| 18:14 | SzosszeNET | libsysguy could you give some hint regarding Auth_with_ldap.pm? :) |
| 18:15 | libsysguy | that is the file that actually does the ldap bits of authentication |
| 18:15 | what type of LDAP setup do you have? | |
| 18:15 | SzosszeNET | huhuuu :D |
| 18:15 | here I did go on easy way | |
| 18:16 | libsysguy | im sorry, I don't follow |
| 18:17 | oleonard | Okay nengard, I didn't understand what you said. You don't think it was the module why? |
| 18:17 | SzosszeNET | won't go into details sorry the easy way an M$ active directory domain on windows server 2003, but the operation level is 2000 |
| 18:17 | nengard | there were several modules that were optional that I was missing that I installed this morning |
| 18:18 | I did not update the one you said, but a test today shows that the search is doing the right thing | |
| 18:18 | SzosszeNET | if that answers your question |
| 18:18 | oleonard | nengard: The search that was broken before is working now? |
| 18:18 | nengard | yes, i think it was one of the modules I updated today |
| 18:19 | so you were on the right track | |
| 18:19 | unfortunatly I don't know which one it was | |
| 18:19 | libsysguy | ok SzosszeNET, so you have an ADLDAP setup. do you have auth_by_bind enabled |
| 18:19 | oleonard | nengard: The same search, with the quotes, and the URI::Escape version 3.30? |
| 18:19 | nengard | yes |
| 18:19 | let me try one more time | |
| 18:20 | libsysguy | and does your AD setup bind on the DN or can it bind on the sAMAccount name |
| 18:20 | oleonard | nengard: http://head.bibkat.no:8080/cgi[…]g,%20Lawrence.%22 |
| 18:21 | (demo/demo) | |
| 18:21 | nengard | oh damn ? |
| 18:21 | i was on the opac | |
| 18:21 | poo | |
| 18:21 | okay still no checkboxes in the staff client | |
| 18:21 | SzosszeNET | libsysguy : http://pastie.org/4857001 |
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| 18:23 | SzosszeNET | good questions... |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | ok so looking at this, you're users are allowed to bind and the bind is supposed to occur using the distinguished name |
| 18:24 | all all your users reside in the OU "Domain" | |
| 18:24 | SzosszeNET | yes |
| 18:24 | well, almost, the technical ones are not there | |
| 18:25 | but normal users are in that OU | |
| 18:25 | libsysguy | but the user you're testing with is there |
| 18:25 | okay | |
| 18:26 | how perl savvy are you SzosszeNET | |
| 18:27 | SzosszeNET | none at all :) |
| 18:27 | libsysguy | heh damn |
| 18:27 | then I don't trust you to open Auth_with_ldap.pm | |
| 18:27 | :p | |
| 18:28 | SzosszeNET | I could open it ;) |
| 18:28 | still the world did not end :D | |
| 18:28 | libsysguy | well when I am troubleshooting these setups for work I typically start by adding some print statements around where I think the problem is occuring |
| 18:29 | so you can enter: print STDERR "LDAP bind failed as kohauser $principal_name: ". description($res); | |
| 18:29 | SzosszeNET | ahm, so basic debugging... |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | exactly |
| 18:29 | :) | |
| 18:29 | ldap is almost always 100% a pain in the ass | |
| 18:29 | SzosszeNET | to bad I'm not a programmer mind... |
| 18:29 | libsysguy | and requires some troubleshooting |
| 18:30 | SzosszeNET | tried it but...I just don't have nerves to it |
| 18:30 | libsysguy | heh |
| 18:30 | SzosszeNET | I'm just wondering |
| 18:30 | is not it possible to twist around this | |
| 18:31 | libsysguy | how so? |
| 18:31 | SzosszeNET | if I join the host to AD users should be able to log in to the host - if they can log in the host knows who they are so could learn them koha - kerberos |
| 18:33 | on the orther hand also wondering should not koha log missed login attempts? | |
| 18:33 | my logs are almost empty :) | |
| 18:33 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: not be default. Your logs would be massive. |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | it depends on how verbose the logs are set to log in your system preferences |
| 18:34 | * jcamins | goes to eat some lunch. |
| 18:34 | SzosszeNET | jcamins enjoy |
| 18:35 | libsysguy | the only reason it would fail at the point you're at would be if the bind failed |
| 18:35 | SzosszeNET | libsysguy but with that I could debug (or have some idea) what is wrong with my ldap binding |
| 18:35 | libsysguy | and typically that means that the connection is refused or the principal name is malformed |
| 18:35 | yeah so in the koha sysprefs set your logs to verbose | |
| 18:35 | that should turn on logging for everything | |
| 18:36 | and you can find those in.../var/logs/koha_error-log | |
| 18:36 | i think | |
| 18:36 | * libsysguy | is not too familiar with production installs |
| 18:36 | SzosszeNET | intranet-error.log zebra-error.log opac-error.log zebra-output.log |
| 18:36 | those 4 log files do exist :) | |
| 18:37 | libsysguy | anybody else know where logs are on a standard install? |
| 18:38 | * libsysguy | takes that as a no :p |
| 18:38 | SzosszeNET | they are at /var/log/koha |
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| 18:38 | libsysguy | ah |
| 18:38 | i was about to suggest running find :p | |
| 18:38 | SzosszeNET | :) I know where my logs are ;) |
| 18:39 | just told that 4 file only | |
| 18:39 | libsysguy | so I can never remember if they go into koha-error_log or koha-opac-error_log |
| 18:39 | oh….well hell | |
| 18:39 | SzosszeNET | but again, where I enable verbose for logging? :) |
| 18:39 | libsysguy | oh |
| 18:39 | from the koha staff page | |
| 18:39 | SzosszeNET | I think opac :) |
| 18:40 | libsysguy | Koha Administration -> Logs |
| 18:40 | SzosszeNET | Home › Administration › System preferences > Logging preferences |
| 18:40 | libsysguy | yup |
| 18:40 | * libsysguy | cheats and uses the search for log |
| 18:41 | SzosszeNET | AuthoritiesLog is only "don't log" |
| 18:41 | everything else is on log | |
| 18:41 | mtompset | Good day. :) |
| 18:41 | SzosszeNET | you too :) |
| 18:41 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 18:42 | interesting | |
| 18:42 | wahanui | hmmm... interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 18:42 | libsysguy | wahanui: this time its bad :'( |
| 18:42 | wahanui | libsysguy: sorry... |
| 18:42 | libsysguy | heh |
| 18:42 | oh bot u so silly | |
| 18:42 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 18:42 | libsysguy | SzosszeNET: i suppose you could grep the logs folder for "LDAP" |
| 18:44 | SzosszeNET | # less /var/log/koha/groupkoha/* | grep LDAP # less /var/log/koha/groupkoha/* | grep ldap |
| 18:44 | * oleonard | is tired of his semi-regular afternoon git connectivity blackout |
| 18:44 | SzosszeNET | and nothing... |
| 18:44 | wahanui | i heard nothing was a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 18:45 | jcamins | oleonard: why do you have a semi-regular afternoon git blackout? |
| 18:45 | SzosszeNET | anyway " Home › Administration › System preferences > Logging preferences" there is no verbose logging option (koha 3.8) |
| 18:45 | libsysguy | SzosszeNET: maybe try: grep -r "LDAP" /var/log |
| 18:45 | yeah i think there used to be…who changed that | |
| 18:46 | * libsysguy | looks at the other devels glaringly |
| 18:46 | SzosszeNET | 3.08.05.000 |
| 18:46 | jcamins | libsysguy: I don't recall there ever being a way to change log verbosity. |
| 18:46 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 18:46 | libsysguy | i could have sworn |
| 18:46 | anyway | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | I was getting excited when you said there was one, 'cause that'd be great. |
| 18:46 | libsysguy | that would be nice wouldn't there |
| 18:46 | cait | jcamins: there used to be a syspref |
| 18:46 | libsysguy | maybe I'll write that after khall finishes the logger |
| 18:46 | cait | I never tested it |
| 18:46 | maybe it#s still there | |
| 18:46 | SzosszeNET | libsysguy grep -r "LDAP" /var/log - nothing :) |
| 18:47 | libsysguy | grr |
| 18:47 | cait | but not sure if it does something actually |
| 18:47 | jcamins | The only way I ever knew to change logs was to set KOHA_DEBUG in the environment. |
| 18:47 | SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 1 | |
| 18:47 | (in your Apache config file) | |
| 18:47 | libsysguy | or could you export it |
| 18:47 | export KOHA_DEBUG=1; | |
| 18:48 | jcamins | libsysguy: if you are able to test LDAP without the web server, yes. |
| 18:48 | libsysguy | :p |
| 18:48 | fine | |
| 18:48 | have it your way jcamins :p | |
| 18:48 | SzosszeNET | :D |
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| 18:49 | jcamins | oleonard_: ohhh, filling in at the library with the absurd firewall? |
| 18:49 | oleonard_ | No, it's just a random afternoon thing |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 18:49 | That's weird. | |
| 18:49 | libsysguy | so SzosszeNET you can try what jcamins said or you can start adding print STDERR's in Auth_with_ldap.pm |
| 18:50 | those are the only ways I really know how to trouble shoot it | |
| 18:50 | its sad I know | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | We don't know if setting debug will actually provide any useful information, though. |
| 18:51 | Looks like it will. | |
| 18:51 | Well, some information. | |
| 18:51 | oleonard_ | There, semi-regular afternoon git connectivity blackout over. Back to work. |
| 18:51 | libsysguy | yeah wherever $debug is |
| 18:51 | * libsysguy | crack whip in oleonards general direction |
| 18:53 | SzosszeNET | hmm, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/groupkoha : ServerAlias groupkoha SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/koha/sites/groupkoha/koha-conf.xml" SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG 1 |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:54 | You'll need to add that line in two places. | |
| 18:54 | SzosszeNET | looks like this, but the log files don't contain more data |
| 18:54 | jcamins | And you restarted Apache? |
| 18:54 | SzosszeNET | sure, both for opac+intra |
| 18:54 | mtj | SzosszeNET, restart apache... |
| 18:54 | libsysguy | have you looked at the apache logs yet? |
| 18:54 | I had one weird case where it piped to there | |
| 18:55 | SzosszeNET | I've restarted apache :D |
| 18:56 | and apache logs clean | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: try putting the 1 in quotes. |
| 18:56 | * jcamins | is just guessing. |
| 18:57 | SzosszeNET | the error log just contains : [Fri Sep 28 19:53:46 2012] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Fri Sep 28 19:53:47 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) mod_ssl/2.2.16 OpenSSL/0.9.8o configured -- resuming normal operations [Fri Sep 28 19:54:32 2012] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down [Fri Sep 28 19:54:33 2012] [notice] Apache/2.2.16 (Debian) mod_ssl/2. |
| 18:57 | jcamins quotes? where? ) | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: like so: SetEnv KOHA_DEBUG "1" |
| 18:57 | SzosszeNET | oh |
| 18:59 | no change... | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | I have a vague recollection that you have to shut down Apache entirely in order to restart a virtual host using HTTPS. |
| 18:59 | However, after that thought I'm out of ideas. | |
| 19:00 | SzosszeNET | tried with stop than start (apache) |
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| 19:01 | rambutan | @seen bag |
| 19:01 | huginn | rambutan: bag was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: <bag> ah 145 tables seems better :) |
| 19:01 | SzosszeNET | no change... |
| 19:01 | grr... | |
| 19:01 | this cannot be true | |
| 19:02 | bag | hello |
| 19:03 | * jcamins | has never had a use for debug mode. I guess adding warnings the way libsysguy usually does is the only way to go. |
| 19:03 | libsysguy | usually its the fastest for me |
| 19:03 | but I'm a (self proclaimed) developer :p | |
| 19:03 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 19:04 | * SzosszeNET | is just a half crazy M$ - debian admin hybrid... |
| 19:05 | nengard | jcamins (or anyone) what patch added the little magnifying classes in the opac next to authority fields? |
| 19:05 | jcamins | nengard: bug 5888 and... |
| 19:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5888 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , opac-detail subject/author links improvements |
| 19:05 | nengard | thanks |
| 19:05 | jcamins | There are two. |
| 19:05 | The other is... | |
| 19:05 | bug 8210. | |
| 19:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8210 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Headings in OPAC bib details should link to authority record |
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| 19:25 | SzosszeNET | hmm http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]9-May/018547.html this also does not help... |
| 19:25 | the strange stuff why is a bad login attempt not logged? :D at all | |
| 19:26 | as I found should be logged to the "opac-error.log" but that's empty | |
| 19:26 | *almost | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: you could try setting $C4::Debug::debug = 1; in C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm, I guess. |
| 19:26 | * jcamins | can't really recommend that, though. |
| 19:27 | jcamins | If you're not comfortable with Perl, you could end up with an even worse situation very quickly. :( |
| 19:27 | SzosszeNET | I'm no programmer... |
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| 19:32 | rambutan | humm, that bit is interesting actually (CA hosting) |
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| 20:00 | SzosszeNET | jcamins libsysguy! :D https://www.facebook.com/note.[…]10150321097398209 |
| 20:00 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: that's the blog post that libsysguy wrote. |
| 20:01 | SzosszeNET | /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl userid=mag domain.be password=secretcode >junk Can't locate C4/Auth.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/opac/cgi-bin/opac/opac-user.pl l |
| 20:01 | I know ;) | |
| 20:02 | jcamins | You need to set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB. |
| 20:02 | libsysguy | looks like you need to export KOHA_CONF |
| 20:02 | jcamins | And by running as the correct user. |
| 20:02 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 20:02 | jcamins | (koha_groupkoha) |
| 20:02 | No, groupkoha-koha | |
| 20:02 | Sorry, MySQL user and system user are different. | |
| 20:02 | SzosszeNET | that's true |
| 20:03 | jcamins | I mean, they have different naming schemes. |
| 20:05 | SzosszeNET | so...searched the wiki, but not sure... |
| 20:05 | what am I supposed to do? :) | |
| 20:05 | jcamins | Switch to the system user and set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB. |
| 20:05 | cait | it's done |
| 20:06 | jcamins | \o/ |
| 20:08 | drojf | oh look, we have a possible future QA manager :) |
| 20:08 | jcamins | cait++ |
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| 20:09 | drojf | cait++ |
| 20:09 | "fatal: object abde5352a48aef47f0e459160d9d6e91a9b39df4 is corrupted"-- | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | drojf: uh-oh. |
| 20:10 | drojf | it's all completely b0rked |
| 20:10 | jcamins | git fsck? |
| 20:10 | --full? | |
| 20:10 | * jcamins | has never used it. |
| 20:10 | drojf | doesnt work |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Darn. |
| 20:10 | drojf | i tried it already |
| 20:10 | i try to get the whole folder over anyway | |
| 20:11 | cait | drojf: fatal object? :) |
| 20:12 | hope you didn't talk about me | |
| 20:12 | drojf | but well, i got the segmentation fault in the middle of trying to git me a 3.8.5, so that was not completely unexpected |
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| 20:12 | drojf | lol cait, i talk about my git operation ;) |
| 20:13 | i did not day annoying object ;) | |
| 20:13 | say even | |
| 20:14 | * drojf | is referring to the proposal of course, not really calling cait annoying |
| 20:15 | jcamins | drojf: maybe some of the branches that weren't from git.k-c.org will be recoverable? |
| 20:15 | Doesn't matter if the branches that are upstream are recoverable. | |
| 20:17 | cait | drojf: heh |
| 20:18 | jcamins | install.debian? |
| 20:18 | wahanui | i think install.debian is at git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blob;f=INSTALL.debian |
| 20:18 | jcamins | ^^ SzosszeNET: take a look in there for an example of setting KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB |
| 20:19 | It'll be something like export KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/sites/groupkoha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 20:19 | drojf | jcamins: i'm looking into that. what git fsck says and all, but somehow having "corruption" wirtten everywhere is a little scary. there seem to be some ways to crawl through bits and pieces of git. and there was not actually lots of unique stuff in it. most was stuff from k-c.org i tested so it does not matter, some was my own but i think most of that is on the bug tracker. i have not been working on any huge projects, some drafts may be lost, some enha |
| 20:19 | SzosszeNET | grrr... |
| 20:19 | checked on the wiki... :S | |
| 20:19 | jcamins | (and export PERL5LIB=/usr/lib/koha |
| 20:19 | SzosszeNET: it's also on the wiki, but I just figured out how to get that information out of wahanui. | |
| 20:20 | drojf: you were cut off after "some drafts may be lost, some enha..." | |
| 20:20 | drojf | oh |
| 20:20 | some drafts may be lost, some enhancements to my patches that i would probably not have used anyway. | |
| 20:21 | jcamins | In that case I suggest not worrying about it. :) |
| 20:22 | SzosszeNET | okay, thanks |
| 20:22 | jcamins | We should have a koha-shell utility. |
| 20:23 | drojf | no i think i will give copying the whole folder a try and otherwise just work with a clean git. at least i have a working git again |
| 20:23 | jcamins | drojf: this time I recommend against bricking your Raspberry Pi. :P |
| 20:24 | drojf | or maybe i forget about something brilliant i coded and will never remember lol |
| 20:24 | jcamins: this time its on a vm on my laptop ;) | |
| 20:24 | i have a feeling that having a lot of files be written and changed all the time was not too great for the sd card | |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Heh. Probably not too great. |
| 20:25 | drojf | so the pi will just be a normal koha server ;) |
| 20:25 | SzosszeNET | oh, and the user? :$ |
| 20:25 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: groupkoha-koha or something like that. |
| 20:26 | I don't know exactly, but you'll be able to tell by looking in /etc/passwd | |
| 20:26 | SzosszeNET | that's true, but what should I do with it? :D |
| 20:26 | rambutan | drojf: I and my tech have a couple of our personal RPIs here. I was thinking about using them for OPACs in the library, but really they are too slow based on our testing. |
| 20:26 | drojf | rambutan: tried plack? |
| 20:27 | SzosszeNET | rambutan did you overclock it |
| 20:27 | ? | |
| 20:27 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: switch to that user so you can set the environment variables and run the script you were trying to run. |
| 20:27 | rambutan | no, and honestly, I've been busy with SA stuff so I haven't had time to play with them much. I know my tech assistant uses his as an ssh access server at home. |
| 20:28 | SzosszeNET | not overvolt just overclock , also giving all ram to CPU and taking away almost everything from GPU is also not a bad idea ;) |
| 20:29 | rambutan | Originally my idea was to buy about a dozen and set up a BOINC cluster. |
| 20:29 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: drojf used to do all his development on his Raspberry pi. |
| 20:29 | drojf | rambutan: if you have some time, try it with plack, it works quite ok. i made some tests a while ago, its about 10x faster than without http://abunchofthings.net/blog[…]spberry-pi-staff/ |
| 20:30 | SzosszeNET | and was still slow overclocked? |
| 20:30 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: drojf insists it ran nice and fast. |
| 20:30 | SzosszeNET | :) |
| 20:31 | rambutan | Interesting (10x faster). |
| 20:31 | drojf | SzosszeNET: the one where i made benchmarks was not overclocked. i have benchmarks with overclocking too (1000mhz), its doubles the speed for standard koha, but it does not do much for the plack version |
| 20:32 | but the older benchmarks were master at that time, the overclocked ones were 3.84 and 3.8.5, that might make a difference | |
| 20:32 | SzosszeNET | indeed interesting - shame I'm still not a developer and just explorering koha :) |
| 20:32 | drojf | (btw double the speed for standard koha means it is still painfully slow) |
| 20:33 | SzosszeNET | shame, the gpu cannot be utilized |
| 20:33 | but that's a quite powerfull beast... | |
| 20:34 | drojf | maybe we will see that one day. we have 240mb ram now too, when i started they said more than 224 is not possible |
| 20:34 | SzosszeNET | that was true :) |
| 20:34 | rambutan | BOINC performs best with a good GPU, but requires the modules be written specifically for the GPU |
| 20:34 | SzosszeNET | recently was made 240mb possible |
| 20:36 | rangi | gah tcohen fed the troll |
| 20:36 | cait | which one? |
| 20:36 | wahanui | somebody said which one was 3.6.x? |
| 20:36 | cait | there were so mny |
| 20:36 | rangi | you'll see the message on the mailing list |
| 20:37 | jcamins | I'm past trying on that. |
| 20:38 | rangi | yep, every reply gives him another opportunity to spread FUD |
| 20:38 | jcamins | If I thought he might listen, I'd tell him how to fix it, but I know he wouldn't follow the instructions I gave him. |
| 20:39 | cait | :( |
| 20:39 | but the library... | |
| 20:39 | jcamins | cait: is going to have a borked up system either way, since he wouldn't fix it when I told him to. |
| 20:44 | drojf | we have trolls? |
| 20:45 | ah, that person i stopped reading emails of log ago | |
| 20:45 | long even | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Do nai feed them or they will follow you home. |
| 20:46 | SzosszeNET | drojf first I'll be happy if I can run it on a vmware host :D |
| 20:47 | drojf | :) |
| 20:47 | SzosszeNET | indeed khm...slightly slow :D |
| 20:47 | but not that bad | |
| 20:48 | drojf | i think there are servers in production with that speed ;) |
| 20:49 | SzosszeNET | yep :) |
| 20:49 | drojf | you could probably feel the speed better if you had seen how it works without plack |
| 20:49 | SzosszeNET | F***meeee!!!!!!!!!!!! " 22:48:12 2012] [error] [client 10.42.1.7] [Fri Sep 28 22:48:12 2012] opac-user.pl: LDAP error #32: LDAP_NO_SUCH_OBJECT," |
| 20:49 | finally it talks to me :D | |
| 20:49 | yeah! :D | |
| 20:49 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: progress! |
| 20:49 | wahanui | somebody said progress was good |
| 20:49 | rambutan | drojf: will take a look |
| 20:52 | drojf | kf: a raspberry pi for every participant in the workshop? we would not have to deal with VMs then ;) i guess the TH could afford to give them out for free |
| 20:53 | jcamins | TH? |
| 20:53 | drojf | hm she's cait, not kf |
| 20:53 | lol | |
| 20:53 | cait | maybe a bit too slow to make a good impresssion :) |
| 20:54 | drojf | technische hochschule. technical university? |
| 20:54 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 20:54 | cait | :) |
| 20:59 | SzosszeNET | hmmm, hope almost there : LDAP bind failed as kohauser mag: LDAP error #49: LDAP_INVALID_CREDENTIALS |
| 20:59 | however the pw is supposed to be ok... | |
| 21:00 | * jcamins | speculates wildly that the problem is probably with the OU, then points out that he doesn't generally configure LDAP. |
| 21:01 | rambutan | drojf: yea, it's slow, but not really unreasonable. Surely MySql is running on a different machine, right? |
| 21:01 | SzosszeNET | jcamins as the credentials are not ok I think my user if found now... |
| 21:01 | drojf | rambutan: same machine |
| 21:02 | rambutan: i would put it on a second pi if i had one ;) | |
| 21:02 | jcamins | SzosszeNET: I warned you I didn't know what I was talking about. ;) |
| 21:02 | SzosszeNET | ;) |
| 21:03 | jcamins | Suggestion B is that it's trying to bind by the wrong user. |
| 21:03 | *with | |
| 21:03 | And you need to enable auth-by-bind. | |
| 21:03 | Or disable it. | |
| 21:03 | Or re-envision it in an edgy and unconventional gothic setting. | |
| 21:04 | Yes, it is past 5pm on a Friday for me, why do you ask? | |
| 21:05 | drojf | whatever you do, feel free to fill lots of wiki pages and blog posts with what you find out, i might have to do ldap configuration one day |
| 21:05 | rambutan | drojf: well, that's actually impressive |
| 21:05 | SzosszeNET | :) bind-by-auth was enabled |
| 21:05 | jcamins | Yes, definitely be sure to note down how you fix the problem. |
| 21:05 | And how you did not fix the problem. | |
| 21:05 | rambutan | Koha Pi Cluster, anyone? |
| 21:05 | jcamins | Both are important. |
| 21:05 | drojf | rambutan: right? plack is witchcraft |
| 21:05 | +1 for pi cluster | |
| 21:06 | SzosszeNET | would be interested :D |
| 21:06 | \o/ | |
| 21:10 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #187 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:30 | SzosszeNET | got it work |
| 21:30 | :D | |
| 21:30 | but "AddMember failed at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 169." | |
| 21:34 | rambutan left #koha | |
| 21:36 | SzosszeNET | Think is in pair with this : opac-user.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Column 'categorycode' cannot be null at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/SQLHelper.pm line 184, <DATA> line 522., |
| 21:48 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #187: SUCCESS in 38 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/187/ |
| 21:48 | fridolyn.somers: Bug 8702: System preferences search does not allow accented letters | |
| 21:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 21:48 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #188 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:56 | drojf | SzosszeNET: that somehow sounds like the OU jcamins_away mentioned |
| 21:56 | not that i know anything about ldap | |
| 21:57 | SzosszeNET | :D |
| 21:57 | it's not LDAP anymore | |
| 21:57 | it's working | |
| 21:57 | it's koha+ldap | |
| 21:57 | I mean | |
| 21:58 | now as ldap does resolve and authenticate koha is supposed to store the user in mysql | |
| 21:58 | but the process stops as :DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Column 'categorycode' cannot be null at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/SQLHelper.pm line 184, <DATA> line 522. AddMember failed at /usr/share/koha/lib//C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm line 178, <DATA> line 522. | |
| 21:58 | drojf | do you have categorycode in your mapping? |
| 21:59 | are you using a real patron or your database user? | |
| 21:59 | SzosszeNET | yes, and also already created a category in koha "user" |
| 21:59 | <categorycode is="user"/> | |
| 22:00 | <drojf>: are you using a real patron or your database user? please clarify :) | |
| 22:04 | drojf | you have a database user (the one in koha-conf.xml) that you use to login for the first time and do database upgrades after updates. that is not a full patron or staff member. in case you are trying to authenticate an existing patron that should probably be tried with one you entered yourself |
| 22:04 | does that make sense? | |
| 22:06 | SzosszeNET | yes |
| 22:06 | drojf | also, is "user" your categorycode or the description of that code? |
| 22:06 | SzosszeNET | that's the category code - but the mapping is not used/accepted as it is...I think |
| 22:07 | drojf | ok so much for my ideas, go on having fun ;) |
| 22:07 | SzosszeNET | and where I am - as I told I authenticate against AD - first time. What happens as I found I authenticte and koha creates my login on first logon |
| 22:08 | so I'm authenticating with a to be patron which does not exist yet :) | |
| 22:08 | drojf | ah i see |
| 22:08 | SzosszeNET | kind of crazy |
| 22:08 | drojf | not really |
| 22:08 | oh | |
| 22:09 | SzosszeNET | so the question how do I set the default categorycode? |
| 22:09 | I think not supposed to be in the mapping... | |
| 22:12 | drojf | it sounds like you dont have set that categorycode in koha administration, at least not exactly like in your ldap config |
| 22:13 | maybe caps some place and not the other? | |
| 22:13 | but then it would not say its empty i guess | |
| 22:13 | SzosszeNET | indeed |
| 22:14 | just to clear out | |
| 22:14 | Home › Administration › Patron categories | |
| 22:14 | and here code is the categorycode | |
| 22:15 | drojf | yes |
| 22:15 | BUT | |
| 22:15 | you can only set the categorycode in caps | |
| 22:16 | and you said you have 'user' in the ldap config | |
| 22:16 | rangi | <categorycode is="employeetype" >PFRSTAFF</categorycode> |
| 22:16 | you need something like that | |
| 22:16 | where PFRSTAFF is your default | |
| 22:16 | and employeetype is the AD field | |
| 22:16 | you have just a mix up in your config | |
| 22:17 | from the man | |
| 22:17 | The <mapping> subelements establish the relationship between mysql fields and LDAP attributes. The element name is the column in mysql, with the "is" characteristic set to the LDAP attribute name. Optionally, any content between the element tags is taken as the default value. In this example, the default categorycode is "PT" (for patron). | |
| 22:18 | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]and_field_mapping | |
| 22:20 | * rangi | heads out |
| 22:26 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #188: SUCCESS in 37 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/188/ |
| 22:26 | maxime.pelletier: Bug 8659 Remove and readd the inactive funds in javascript to make it work in all browsers | |
| 22:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8659 normal, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, Pushed to Stable , Inactive funds in neworderempty not disabled in IE/Opera |
| 22:49 | SzosszeNET | what is the branchcode on koha GUI? |
| 22:49 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Cannot add or update a child row: a foreign key constraint fails (`koha_groupkoha`.`borrowers`, CONSTRAINT `borrowers_ibfk_2` FOREIGN KEY (`branchcode`) REFERENCES `branches` (`branchcode`)) | |
| 22:49 | or where it is | |
| 22:52 | found thanks :) | |
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