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| 00:39 | wajasu | i'm testing bug 8702 |
| 00:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 00:41 | wajasu | now i am trying to verify, so prepatch, i cataloged a record with Jürgen in the author, and ren zebrasrv -v all to see what its doing. |
| 00:41 | jcamins | wajasu: bug 8702 has nothing to do with Zebra. |
| 00:42 | wajasu | you are right its prefs. i'm braindead |
| 00:54 | prepatch i added Jürgen to a couple of places in syspref value fields. i search for it and don't get anything matching, but an info message that has a missing ü ( Jrgen ). i patch and i still don't match to anything. but i do get the full "Jürgen" in the info message. | |
| 00:55 | so its not eating the data in the form. but the search/query might be suspect. | |
| 00:55 | if it queries mysql db fields directly, maybe we need to NFC normalize the string to match. | |
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| 00:56 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 00:56 | wajasu | hi |
| 00:57 | mtompset | Greetings wajasu. Hope you didn't mind your nick being used in a bug report. :) |
| 00:57 | wajasu | naw, its all over the place for signoffs |
| 00:57 | mtompset | bug 8780 |
| 00:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8780 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Lower dependency version for DateTime::TimeZone |
| 00:59 | wajasu | i could signoff. i've been downgrading and running with 1.20 since june. :) |
| 00:59 | mtompset | "Given that Colin says it should be okay to lower it to 1.20, and that Wajasu has purposefully tweaked his out since June (almost 3 months), I propose we lower the minimum value to 1.20 from 1.26. This will make git installs under Debian attainable." |
| 00:59 | I noted that in the bug report. | |
| 01:00 | wajasu | i'll signoff in a few minutes. after what i'm working on. bug 8702 |
| 01:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 01:01 | mtompset | I wonder if it is related to the fact that libtext-unaccented-perl was not listed in debian.packages |
| 01:02 | wajasu | i've been doing debian installs all day for tcohens patch, and i added libtext-unaccented-perl in my VM script. (installing koha-common wanted it) |
| 01:03 | mtompset | bug 8784 |
| 01:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8784 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Missing files in debian.packages list |
| 01:03 | wajasu | its not related. this has to do with a regex that strips chars at input. |
| 01:04 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 01:09 | wajasu | maybe you can help me understand id i can pass this patch. see what i irc'ed just before you logged on http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]2-09-19#i_1081185 |
| 01:09 | mtompset | Oh, I was just noticing line 298 on that patch for bug 8702... is it possible to trigger a search without searchfield being set? |
| 01:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 01:11 | mtompset | Is it searching syspref values or syspref keys? |
| 01:12 | key (eg. IntranetFavicon) | |
| 01:12 | wajasu | thats the action that is sent in when one presses the search button. the preferences.pl support multiple commands onthe page, so the "op" is the differentiator. |
| 01:13 | i don't know what its searching (i though any text matching) | |
| 01:13 | mtompset | Try switching languages. |
| 01:14 | Find text in the descriptions which have an accented character. | |
| 01:14 | Then search for it. | |
| 01:14 | wajasu | i know if i search for "subdivisions" it finds the entry with that in the value field. |
| 01:14 | good idea | |
| 01:15 | now if i can. | |
| 01:16 | i only have enlish on my staf IF | |
| 01:16 | i might have to generate/translations | |
| 01:16 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 01:17 | wajasu | or manually stick it in the db text :) |
| 01:20 | mtompset | oh yuck. |
| 01:20 | Maybe. | |
| 01:22 | wajasu | i always document my testplan so QA can understand, and the original patch writer can cry wolf if i misunderstood what they needed. lets see. |
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| 01:34 | wajasu | I added "Jürgen" to the explanation column for ExportWithCsvProfile syspref. it didn't find it. maybe the search string needs to be NFC normailzed. lets see if i can find the query. |
| 01:51 | mtompset | It would be much easier to switch languages. ;) |
| 02:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #841 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) |
| 02:07 | * wajasu | taking a break. |
| 02:07 | mtompset | I'm just tweaking out stylesheets right now. |
| 02:07 | Need to make sure the color.css reflects our colour scheme properly. | |
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| 02:16 | mtompset | That was a nice blip. |
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| 02:27 | mtompset | *ping* Anyone here now? :) |
| 02:38 | Greetings, ago43 | |
| 02:44 | ago43 | hi, mtompset! |
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| 02:53 | wajasu | here still |
| 03:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #841: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/841/ |
| 03:25 | halcyonCorsair | rangi: yo |
| 03:26 | rangi | heya |
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| 03:34 | wajasu | rangi: bug 8702 patch seems to enable one to pass "Jürgen" (things with accents/diacritics/utf8 for possible search and match in sysprefs search. i can see the information message doesn't drop the ü anymore. |
| 03:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8702 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Needs Signoff , System preferences search does not allow accented letters |
| 03:35 | wajasu | but i wondered if the patch was to enable an actual match in "explanation" text. |
| 03:35 | nothing that fancy in the patch itself. but wouldn't that be the goal? | |
| 03:36 | or do i need to switch languages | |
| 03:36 | like mtompset suggested | |
| 03:36 | rangi | ive no idea, i didnt write that patch |
| 03:36 | wajasu | i wish test plans were a requirement |
| 03:37 | mtompset | I know there was an email saying people should include test plans. |
| 03:37 | In fact, I have now gone through the trouble of putting a test plan BEFORE I put the patch up. | |
| 03:37 | melomind | I'm looking for information regarding required hardware in order to set up KOHA for our small historical society library. Is this the proper forum for that? If not, could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 03:37 | rangi | nothing is a requirement, we have guidelines though |
| 03:38 | melomind: the mailing list is probably better | |
| 03:38 | mtompset | It's just considerate for testers and QA'rs. |
| 03:38 | melomind | I'll check there. Thanks. |
| 03:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #180 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:41 | mtompset | http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ tends to focus on software requirements. I think checking the list is the best idea. |
| 03:47 | halcyonCorsair | rangi: http://halcyoncorsair.tumblr.c[…]rom-git-with-chef |
| 03:47 | pt 1 | |
| 03:47 | now i need to mention it on the wiki somewhere I guess? | |
| 03:48 | mtompset | If it is a page about koha, wouldn't you want it ON the wiki? |
| 03:48 | * mtompset | is just throwing the idea out there. |
| 03:49 | rangi | halcyonCorsair: cool ;) |
| 03:49 | halcyonCorsair | mtompset: sure, but I wanted to get it out there while it 'in progress', I'm travelling around a bit, so I do what I can when I can |
| 03:49 | installation? development sections? | |
| 03:50 | mtompset | This seems to be an advanced installation. |
| 03:51 | You may wish to run it by mtj the installation documentation manager. ;) | |
| 03:52 | rangi | id put it under dev |
| 03:53 | mtompset | Hmmm... good point, you put it under installation and most people who aren't familiar with anything are going to start doing it. |
| 03:53 | rangi | yep |
| 03:54 | mtompset | Oh, and try to reword it to avoid keywords people might use for installation. ;) |
| 04:00 | halcyonCorsair | A *very* quickly wikified page: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_Chef_and_Vagrant |
| 04:00 | err, i'll just adjust those categories | |
| 04:01 | anyway, bedtime | |
| 04:02 | feel free to leave me feedback, err, somehow ;) | |
| 04:04 | mtj | halcyonCorsair, /me love the bike stuff on yr blog :p |
| 04:04 | wajasu | i figured it out. the language specific .pref files in koha-tmpl and that is the text that is matched against. So once I put an accented character I was able to match in the search for 8702. now i can signoff. |
| 04:05 | mtj | ' …but am soon alone with the great metal beasts' :) |
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| 04:19 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 04:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #180: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/180/ |
| 04:42 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7690: hidelostitems not working in Normal Display | |
| 04:42 | * colin.campbell: Bug 8727 Minor stylistic change to help text | |
| 04:42 | * mtompset: Bug 8713 - Warning message triggered by clicking Keywords to MARC mapping | |
| 04:42 | * dcook: Bug 8765 - Add series title to intranet search results | |
| 04:42 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8765 follow-up replace tabs by spaces | |
| 04:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7690 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , hidelostitems not working in Normal Display |
| 04:42 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 8336 Support Sip Renewal Transaction |
| 04:42 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8336 follow-up, tabs to space | |
| 04:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8727 trivial, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Correct help text in rebuild_zebra_sliced.sh |
| 04:42 | jenkins_koha | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8275: xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called |
| 04:42 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3782: Remove broken z39.50 targets from sample files | |
| 04:42 | * dcook: Bug 8717 - Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client | |
| 04:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8713 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Stable , Warning message triggered by clicking keyword to marc mapping. |
| 04:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8765 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Add series title to intranet search results | |
| 04:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8336 major, P1 - high, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , SIP Server does not process renewal transaction correctly | |
| 04:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8275 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , xml parsing error when the webservice GetPatronInfo/show_loans is called | |
| 04:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3782 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , delivered z39.50 targets wrong for NY Public Library and NY University Library | |
| 04:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8717 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Wrong subscription notes are showing in catalogue detail view of serials in staff client | |
| 04:42 | mtompset | Sweet. It's always need to see a patch pushed through. :) |
| 04:45 | cait | :) |
| 04:45 | it is | |
| 04:55 | libsysguy | cait you're back awake? |
| 04:58 | wajasu | mtompset: just signed off on your 8780 |
| 05:00 | mtompset | wajasu++ # thanks for the sign off. |
| 05:00 | cait | libsysguy: kind of |
| 05:01 | why are you still here? | |
| 05:01 | * cait | is still waking up :) |
| 05:01 | libsysguy | I can't sleep |
| 05:01 | cait | oh |
| 05:01 | libsysguy | so I thought I'd work on my calendar patch |
| 05:01 | cait | milk and honey? a really boring book? |
| 05:01 | oh or that :) | |
| 05:01 | libsysguy | heh yeah the calendar is kind of boring |
| 05:01 | cait | I wnt to work on serials acquisition patches |
| 05:02 | libsysguy | did that one patch from biblibre make it though |
| 05:02 | mtompset | can we keep the datetime::BLAH dependencies to a minimum? ;) |
| 05:02 | cait | there are 2 patches |
| 05:02 | libsysguy | actually I just added some more mtompset |
| 05:02 | cait | one needs the other to make the feature complete, took me a while to figure it out |
| 05:03 | libsysguy | why do you not want them? |
| 05:03 | cait | libsysguy: I think he means the version because that cuased some problems :) |
| 05:03 | libsysguy | ohhh |
| 05:03 | well I am introducing DateTime::Event::ICal | |
| 05:03 | for recurrence operations | |
| 05:04 | infinite recurrsions | |
| 05:05 | also DateTime::Format::ICal (maybe) | |
| 05:05 | mtompset | NOOOOOOOOOOOO! ;) |
| 05:05 | libsysguy | I think i can remove that one actually |
| 05:05 | mtompset | I already saw that. :) |
| 05:05 | libsysguy | have you been peeking at my code mtompset ;) |
| 05:06 | mtompset | It made it into PerlDependencies.pm |
| 05:06 | libsysguy | yayy!! |
| 05:06 | mtompset | Or something at least triggered an install of it. |
| 05:07 | Backing out DateTime perl libraries is a PAIN! | |
| 05:07 | I ended up having to remove libxml-rss-perl as well to get them out. | |
| 05:07 | libsysguy | packages? |
| 05:07 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 05:08 | mtompset | Yes, packages removing with dpkg -r. |
| 05:08 | libsysguy | you should take that up with the package maintainer then :p |
| 05:09 | mtompset | Yes, but I have a package user here. It's easier to shoot the messenger. ;) |
| 05:10 | * libsysguy | recommends CPAN for all your versioned module needs :p |
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| 05:13 | cait | hi sophie_m - early! :) |
| 05:13 | sophie_m | Hello cait |
| 05:14 | At home, so no traffic ;-) | |
| 05:14 | cait | :) |
| 05:17 | * mtompset | gives libsysguy the evil eye, "Don't joke about such vile things which prevent simplicity of upgrades." |
| 05:18 | libsysguy | if you use cpan minus its almost as easy as apt :p |
| 05:20 | mtompset | Let's just CPAN everything! ;) |
| 05:21 | libsysguy | sometimes it just has to be done |
| 05:21 | for old times sake | |
| 05:21 | just to make you really appreciate apt | |
| 05:26 | * wajasu | wonders if we can make a move to carton (with cpanfile support) and possibly a loclal::lib dependency deb package for each release. |
| 05:26 | * cait | does a git pull - feels nice every single time |
| 05:27 | wajasu | :) |
| 05:27 | cait | ok |
| 05:27 | now it stopped feeling nice | |
| 05:27 | Template process failed: file error - /home/katrin/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/de-DE/modules/installer/step3.tt: not found at /home/katrin/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 132 | |
| 05:27 | ah, de-DE | |
| 05:28 | libsysguy | I have a question about repeatable_holidays |
| 05:28 | does anybody have good data for the weekday selection bit | |
| 05:28 | cait | never mind, figured it out |
| 05:28 | libsysguy | it looks like it is stored as an array |
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| 06:00 | wajasu | just saw that 4222. whoa! |
| 06:05 | cait | bug 4222 |
| 06:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client |
| 06:05 | cait | wajasu: it got really close :( |
| 06:05 | wajasu: and we really should fix the FA framework | |
| 06:06 | wajasu | i mentioned it to my user, and he is storing spine labels in that field (i think). |
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| 06:08 | wajasu | whats up with FA? a bug in mind? I'm just scanning for things that failedQA that really need to make the freeze that might be resurrected. |
| 06:13 | cait | wajasu: it's in the internal notes bug |
| 06:13 | wajasu: the fa framework still links to items.paidfor | |
| 06:13 | which is bad | |
| 06:13 | because we removed that link from all other frameworks, except that one | |
| 06:14 | so it's an inconsistency in how the data is saved to the database | |
| 06:14 | bah, and the stupid branch search is not working here :( | |
| 06:14 | that was referring to what I am testing right now | |
| 06:16 | mtj | wajasu, re: carton i think it might be a great idea, for distros without packages, at least... |
| 06:16 | wajasu | iINSTALL.otherdistro |
| 06:17 | alex_a1 | bonjour |
| 06:17 | mtj | … it looks like carton supports module versioning, thats its crucial feature |
| 06:18 | carton would save sysadmins playing russian-roulette with pulling random modules from CPAN | |
| 06:19 | wajasu | i am testing an idea for BDD tests, and I might stick a cpanfile in there, so we can have test deps. to prove it out. then once folks like it, we can see if they want to mainstream it. |
| 06:20 | mtj | … we could easily build a carton file, from koha's PerlDep.pm |
| 06:20 | mtompset | ARG! There is no field validation on syspref entry of gist (at least). |
| 06:20 | wajasu | my archlinux has cpanm, and i used that to bootstract carton. then after that all is roses. and metacpan is there. |
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| 06:20 | mtompset | I just typed "a" for the tax rate. |
| 06:21 | mtj | then autogen the carton file before every Koha release |
| 06:21 | wajasu | mtj: yes. |
| 06:22 | mtj | sounds like a useful 'pet project' :) |
| 06:22 | * mtompset | mutters, "Let's assume the user has a valid value and work from there." |
| 06:24 | mtj | wajasu, afaik LL use carton (and perlbrew?) for their thing, so perhaps take a peek in their repo too |
| 06:25 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "carton test" (94 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/186 |
| 06:25 | wajasu | i did this a few minutes ago to see what it takes to build a .deb |
| 06:27 | i'm going to test perlbrew + carton to maybe get more isolated from the host OS. | |
| 06:28 | what used to take me 4-5 hours, takes 5 minutes. | |
| 06:29 | mtj | its nice to think that carton could be the solution to a CPAN versioning problem, thats never been fixed for Koha :) |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:40 | mtompset | BTW, I assume you saw my comment on your bug report, mtj? |
| 06:42 | mtj | sorry, i havent checked today.. bug number? |
| 06:43 | cait | *sigh* |
| 06:43 | ok, I won't finish this this morning | |
| 06:43 | mtj | … i get lots of bugs-emails everyday via QA stuff :/ |
| 06:44 | cait | anyway... if someone wants to take a look at bug 8415 and bug 8456 - feedback appreciated |
| 06:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition |
| 06:44 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription | |
| 06:44 | cait | I would really really like to see that go into 3.10 |
| 06:44 | hi matts | |
| 06:44 | matts | hi ! |
| 06:44 | cait | :) |
| 06:45 | ok, time to leave - bbiab | |
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| 06:50 | mtj | mtompset, your questions/suggestions are all good to me, (re: 8402 ?) |
| 06:51 | mtompset | Right, I totally agree there needs to be a central point which regenerates things. |
| 06:51 | It will make things more consistent across the board. | |
| 06:52 | mtj | but, its a tricky general problem, lets fix it incrementally |
| 06:53 | mtompset | Well, the format of debian/control is different than what is expected in debian.packages (or ubuntu.packages) |
| 06:53 | I think PerlDependencies.pm is the focal point. | |
| 06:53 | mtj | i agree |
| 06:54 | mtompset | But perhaps that is wrong. Perhaps debian/control really is? |
| 06:54 | This is where the building folk should be able to make a good call. | |
| 06:54 | mtj | no, that file is debian specific?! |
| 06:55 | mtompset | It may be... |
| 06:55 | But perhaps the problem is people think of the lib name rather than the perl lib name when extending. | |
| 06:56 | Then question is ... does PerlDependencies.pm ever fall behind debian/control? | |
| 06:56 | mtj | … and um, contains no version info too |
| 06:57 | mtompset | Perhaps the version information is an after thought added for compatibility when people use a different OS. |
| 06:58 | Back to patching those .packages files. ;) | |
| 06:59 | mtj | the goal is to generate perl deps from a *single* file, there are many ways to do it |
| 06:59 | mtompset | Did you notice list-deps? |
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| 07:00 | mtompset | It's a perl version of what I scripted without knowing about it. |
| 07:01 | My shell script is a bit more functional. | |
| 07:01 | Excuse me... my ride is here. | |
| 07:04 | mtj | hmm, i guess it is possible to use debian/control as the only dependancies file, too... |
| 07:05 | mbalmer | @wunder nuremberg |
| 07:05 | huginn | mbalmer: The current temperature in Sugarloaf Mountain, Sugarloaf, Pennsylvania is 13.6°C (3:04 AM EDT on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:05 | mbalmer | @wunder nürnberg |
| 07:05 | huginn | mbalmer: The current temperature in Fuerth, Fuerth, Germany is 11.3°C (9:00 AM CEST on September 19, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:07 | mtj | … but that just feels like a really complex and problematic way to do it, for no advantage |
| 07:07 | * mtj | sticks that back on the too-hard pile |
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| 07:21 | mtj | mtompset, ive been thinking, there might be some advantages to using debian/control as the single dep file |
| 07:22 | mtompset | The key problem is that in addition to perl library, koha requires other things (eg. MySQL, Apache) |
| 07:22 | debian/control would have those listed, but the difficulty is the naming convention across OS's may not be consistent. | |
| 07:23 | mtj | … it would give us the most conservative list of modules (and their minimum version) needed for a stable koha |
| 07:24 | mtompset | That is true. |
| 07:25 | mtj | a general dependancies file would need to be compiled from a debian-stable system, for every release |
| 07:25 | mtompset | Compare the minimum versions against PerlDependencies.pm and we could check if the min_vers are really correct. |
| 07:25 | mtj | yeah, thats it :) |
| 07:26 | it would reveal/detect errors , like your date::timezone version bug | |
| 07:28 | magnuse | well this is weird: on one of my installations, when i go to cataloguing and choose the default framework it refuses to show. nothing in the logs and nothing in the firebug js console. other frameworks work fine and default framework works fine on other installations |
| 07:30 | mtj | dump your good/bad frameworks to files and diff them |
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| 07:31 | mtj | .. then load them into the other system, and test again - any difference? |
| 07:32 | magnuse | yeah, might have to do that |
| 07:33 | mtj | ok, i gotta scoot now |
| 07:33 | magnuse | have fun mtj |
| 07:34 | mtj | thanks for the debian/control idea mtompset - i think it could be a good one |
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| 07:49 | drojf | good morning #koha |
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| 07:56 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:57 | mbalmer | off to nuremberg |
| 07:58 | drojf | hi kf |
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| 08:03 | kf | hi drojf |
| 08:03 | now I missed mb | |
| 08:03 | good morning paul_p | |
| 08:04 | drojf | kf: nuremberg is not that far away ;) |
| 08:17 | * mtompset | likes git blame. |
| 08:17 | mtompset | Now I can know that paul_p didn't thoroughly test last year. ;) |
| 08:17 | paul_p | mtompset ? |
| 08:17 | wahanui | mtompset is probably trying to do a variety of projects in less than three months! |
| 08:17 | * mtompset | grins. |
| 08:18 | mtompset | I'm looking at acqui/basket.pl |
| 08:18 | there is an if ($gist) line. | |
| 08:18 | it belongs to you. | |
| 08:18 | So I'm assuming that you didn't check the error logs for uninitialized variable warnings. :) | |
| 08:19 | nothing terrible. | |
| 08:19 | Just error log floody. | |
| 08:21 | kf | ah I ran into that this morning |
| 08:21 | neworderempty does that too | |
| 08:21 | mtompset | oh wait... used the git blame wrong... it's Jean-Andre Santoni. |
| 08:21 | He added the lines which trigger the errors. | |
| 08:22 | Anyways... I'm going to patch that up now. | |
| 08:22 | kf | paul_p: do you think thre is a chance Joubu could take a look at bug 8456? |
| 08:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8456 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Capture the invoice number, price, date of a subscription |
| 08:22 | mtompset | Sorry, I was wrong, paul_p. :) |
| 08:23 | kf | paul_p: I would really like to see the ordering of serials being improved for 3.10 - and we are close |
| 08:24 | Amit did rebase some of biblibre's patches and I fixed some problems in bug 8415, but the part that is missing is for the ordering forms now | |
| 08:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition |
| 08:26 | mtompset | Is any of that going to affect basket.pl? |
| 08:26 | kf | hm |
| 08:26 | I think it adds a link there | |
| 08:27 | look at the patch for the latter bug | |
| 08:42 | magnuse: around? :) | |
| 08:43 | magnuse | yup |
| 08:44 | kf | bug 8558 :) |
| 08:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8558 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Better confirmation message for importing frameworks |
| 08:44 | kf | maybe we should mark mine or yours duplicate? |
| 08:44 | I thought it was annoying that it warns but doesn't tell which framework I am going to overlay | |
| 08:45 | magnuse | i'll mark mine as a duplicate |
| 08:46 | kf | and good morning .) |
| 08:46 | magnuse | yeah, kia ora! |
| 08:47 | done | |
| 08:47 | kf | :) |
| 08:47 | now we only have to find someone for fixing it :P | |
| 08:47 | magnuse | hmf. default framework does not display. i export it, create a new framework, import the default into that and it displays without any problems! |
| 08:48 | kf: yeah! | |
| 08:48 | kf | oh |
| 08:48 | I never tried witht he defualt framework | |
| 08:48 | only with others | |
| 08:48 | magnuse | my current problem is not related to 8558... |
| 08:49 | i have trouble displaying a default framework when i try to catalogue | |
| 08:51 | kf | nothing in the logs? |
| 08:52 | magnuse | nothing useful |
| 08:53 | complaints about some missing yui files, but i get the same complaints for the frameworks that do work | |
| 08:53 | kf | annoying |
| 08:53 | js error? | |
| 08:55 | magnuse | not really |
| 08:55 | but there is a small difference... | |
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| 08:59 | pastebot | "magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Default framework not shown" (16 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/187 |
| 08:59 | mtompset | oh... 3.8.4 package was missing a directory that the 3.8.4 tarball had. |
| 08:59 | Yep. That's the problem. | |
| 08:59 | download the tarball, and paste those suckers in place. | |
| 08:59 | magnuse | but it works for other installations running off the same package install... |
| 09:00 | mtompset | because they upgraded? |
| 09:00 | the fresh install has that problem. | |
| 09:01 | magnuse | no, i have several instances running off one package install, and they behave differently |
| 09:01 | on the same server | |
| 09:02 | mtompset | I don't understand multiple instances. |
| 09:02 | Do they share the /usr/share/koha/intranet and opac, etc. directories? | |
| 09:02 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:02 | mtompset | And are these instances the same version? |
| 09:02 | magnuse | i did "koha-create a" and "koha-create b" on the same server - now a has the problem and b does not |
| 09:03 | that would lead me to think it is a data problem, more than a code problem... | |
| 09:04 | mtompset | does the plugin directory exist? |
| 09:04 | magnuse | lemme check |
| 09:04 | mtompset | There could be a syspref that turns off dependency on that. |
| 09:05 | (I'm guessing) | |
| 09:05 | Oh, and it is plugins. My bad. :) | |
| 09:06 | magnuse | nope, no plugins dir in /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/ |
| 09:06 | mtompset | not opac, intranet. |
| 09:07 | magnuse | um, oops :-) |
| 09:08 | nope, no plugins in /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/lib/yui/ either | |
| 09:08 | mtompset | If you have a git, you'll notice it is there. |
| 09:09 | If you grab a tarball, you'll notice it is there. | |
| 09:09 | I don't know why it doesn't error for one, but the other. Stale CSS? | |
| 09:09 | But you probably should grab that dir and whack it into place. | |
| 09:13 | magnuse | i just did. it fixed the js errors (and a nice "loading" widget is displayed), but the Default framework is still not displayed (but the copy of it is) |
| 09:14 | is there a bug for that missing plugins dir, btw? | |
| 09:14 | kf | hmdon't remember one |
| 09:14 | magnuse | bug 5024 |
| 09:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5024 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Debian packages don't include YUI plugins |
| 09:15 | magnuse | Reported: 2010-07-16 |
| 09:15 | wahanui | 1987 |
| 09:15 | magnuse | oops :-) |
| 09:15 | thanks wahanui, that's good to know | |
| 09:16 | * magnuse | gives eythian a nudge |
| 09:16 | mtompset | magnuse: it was probably just a packaging problem. |
| 09:16 | Yes, let's all point at eythian. ;) | |
| 09:16 | eythian | give me more hours in a day instead maybe :) |
| 09:16 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:17 | s/nudge/friendly, non-stressful nudge/ | |
| 09:22 | kf | hi eythian |
| 09:22 | eythian | hi |
| 09:22 | kf | we were just talking about you |
| 09:22 | coworker back from vacation asking about the workshop :) | |
| 09:23 | eythian | heh OK |
| 09:23 | kf | btw the printers still hate me... |
| 09:23 | eythian | http://youtu.be/g_hF_RhD-xE <-- kf |
| 09:28 | * mtompset | laughs, "Yes, that is extreme printer hate." |
| 09:28 | * kf | hi |
| 09:28 | thinks it's very reasonable behaviour | |
| 09:30 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 09:30 | mtompset | Not if you are the one paying for the printer. |
| 09:32 | ARG! son loosened internet cable again. | |
| 09:33 | eythian | electrify the outside? |
| 09:33 | mtompset | I need a better layout, so he can't do that. |
| 09:42 | drojf | heh that video shows pretty much what i did to my epson "i know you never print in colour, but colour is empty again and why would i let you print black when colour is empty?" inkjet printer after i bought a bw laser printer |
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| 09:47 | mtompset | okay, improved a little. |
| 09:48 | kf | hm |
| 09:48 | wondering | |
| 09:48 | do we have to teach the translation scripts about the new mobile theme? | |
| 09:48 | mtompset | That's a jcamins problem. ;) |
| 09:49 | Well, jcamins_away problem. :) | |
| 09:50 | kf | well |
| 09:50 | a lot of people want this to go in | |
| 09:50 | mtompset | What does a "warning: 1 line adds whitespace errors." mean? |
| 09:51 | kf | that there is white space where it shouldn't be |
| 09:51 | at the end of a line for example | |
| 09:51 | whitespace? | |
| 09:51 | wahanui | whitespace is probably http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]patches-with-git/ |
| 09:51 | kf | there |
| 09:52 | mtompset | kf++ #thanks for the link. |
| 09:53 | kf | it's very useful |
| 09:57 | mtompset | I'll reset my 3.8.x and see if the patch applies back to it. |
| 10:00 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]604763f832a5c0574> / Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9e6251c5292ca3d3> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8597' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]commitdiff;h=3847 |
| 10:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #842 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) |
| 10:10 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds* <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]922a81f9b3b687935> |
| 10:15 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 10:30 | mtompset | things are getting pushed like crazy. |
| 10:43 | kf | we are close to the deadline |
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| 11:07 | mtompset | okay... bug 8788 logged and loaded. |
| 11:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8788 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Viewing basket for acquisitions triggers error log entries. |
| 11:07 | koyauni | hi guys, is there anyway you can attach an eSoruce to its records, |
| 11:07 | jcamins_away | kf: nope. |
| 11:07 | koyauni | is filed 856 for this propose |
| 11:08 | kf | jcamins_away: ? |
| 11:08 | mtompset | I think jcamins_away meant no to koyauni |
| 11:08 | And yes, I believe that is what 856 is for. | |
| 11:08 | koyauni | ohh, so the NO is mine, and there no way |
| 11:08 | jcamins_away | mtompset: no, I meant "no, we don't need to teach the translation scripts about the new field." |
| 11:08 | *theme | |
| 11:09 | mtompset | Ah... okay, delayed response. Cluing in. :) |
| 11:09 | how do you spell clue-ing? | |
| 11:09 | jcamins_away | koyauni: yes, that's what field 856 is for. |
| 11:09 | kf | jcamins_away: so you tested? :) |
| 11:10 | jcamins_away | kf: I did. I'll test again, though. |
| 11:10 | * mtompset | let's out his breath, "WHEW!" |
| 11:10 | jcamins_away | There is the possibility that we *do* need to teach the translator, and what I determined was that it was easy to fix. |
| 11:10 | mtompset | kf, you should know jcamins_away is a test freak. ;) |
| 11:11 | kf | jcamins: something in the back of my mind said: maybe add another path |
| 11:11 | mtompset | Speaking of tests, jcamins. I almost felt the urge to write something with www::mechanize. |
| 11:11 | kf | but I haven't tested, I added a note so I wouldn't forget |
| 11:12 | mtompset | But I'd thought I'd ask you for some reference/example. |
| 11:12 | jcamins | kf: something in the back of my mind said "but you added another path," after I answered your question. |
| 11:12 | mtompset: bug 8300 | |
| 11:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite |
| 11:13 | kf | jcamins: lol - so who is sitting in the other's mind whispering now? |
| 11:13 | koyauni | I put data in 856 but it does nto show up in dtail view |
| 11:14 | kf | which fields did you use? |
| 11:14 | subfields I mean | |
| 11:15 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #842: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/842/ |
| 11:15 | * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: Invoices management improvement | |
| 11:15 | * julian.maurice: Bug 5339: perltidy on added files | |
| 11:15 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 5339 follow-up DBRev | |
| 11:15 | * jcamins: Bug 8597 follow-up: add missing lib files | |
| 11:15 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8597 follow-up translation issues | |
| 11:15 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 7751 follow-up adding updatedatabase for sysprefs decreateLoanHighHolds* | |
| 11:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Parcel closing in acq |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Pushed to Master , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view | |
| 11:15 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7751 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Pushed to Master , Decrease loan period on items with a high number of holds | |
| 11:20 | magnuse | looks like a memcached restart solved my problem with the default framework - corrupted cache, perhaps? |
| 11:22 | mtompset | I don't have anything memcached, but the next unlogged bug I was going to look at seemed related to $framework not being defined. |
| 11:23 | jcamins: It says => for the Tests::More... I can't see where the tests are? | |
| 11:24 | There's 20 tests in there? | |
| 11:25 | jcamins | mtompset: Test::WWW:Mechanize. |
| 11:25 | It does tests. | |
| 11:25 | mtompset | So each $agent-> is a test? |
| 11:27 | jcamins | Some are, some aren't. |
| 11:27 | The perldoc for Test::WWW::Mechanize lists all the possible tests. | |
| 11:28 | mtompset | Okay. |
| 11:28 | Dumb question. What if I don't know how many tests it will do? | |
| 11:29 | (eg. write some sort of looping click mess) | |
| 11:29 | jcamins | Put done_testing; at the end, and don't give a number of tests at the beginning. |
| 11:30 | mtompset | Sweet... sounds like I could have a click-happy testing run. |
| 11:30 | mtj | 'There are cases when you will not know beforehand how many tests your script is going to run. In this case, you can declare your tests at the end.' |
| 11:30 | http://search.cpan.org/~mschwe[…]/lib/Test/More.pm | |
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| 11:38 | * mtompset | sighs. Is there a default framework setting somewhere in Koha? |
| 11:39 | mtj | afaik, no, its on a todo list somewhere |
| 11:39 | if you goof the frameworks, just drop/load them again from the shell | |
| 11:40 | mtompset | The reason I ask is because of z3950_search.pl |
| 11:40 | The script is called without a framework code. | |
| 11:41 | Then it tries to go out to whereever and finds nothing matches, because there's no framework code. | |
| 11:41 | all the while spamming the error logs. | |
| 11:42 | jcamins | mtompset: the default framework doesn't have a framework code. |
| 11:43 | You probably just want to put ||= '' somewhere. | |
| 11:43 | mtompset | Okay, so " || q{}" |
| 11:44 | jcamins | That'd be my guess. |
| 11:49 | mtompset | I think I'll jump back to my backup project. My brain is fried. |
| 11:50 | I really hate finding a two bugs in close vicinity. | |
| 11:50 | jcamins | Bug 8633. |
| 11:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8633 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Translate script hardcoded to prog template |
| 11:50 | jcamins | We do need to add ccsr. |
| 11:51 | I'd forgotten that fredericd objected to it. | |
| 11:51 | fredericd | jcamins: hello! |
| 11:52 | jcamins | fredericd: hello. :) |
| 11:52 | fredericd | Chris reply is fine for me. |
| 11:52 | Do you have a patch? Do you want one from me? | |
| 11:53 | jcamins | fredericd: I do not have a general patch. If you are able to write a patch, I would trust it a lot more than I would trust what I can come up with. ;) |
| 11:54 | * fredericd | was reading that yesterday: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]earch_Rewrite_RFC |
| 11:54 | fredericd | impressive |
| 11:54 | jcamins | fredericd: I think you mean "crazy" :P |
| 11:54 | mtompset | All hail the background indexing king. :) |
| 11:55 | fredericd | :-) |
| 11:57 | mtompset | Nice to see you say something on the channel while I'm here, fredericd. :) |
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| 11:58 | mtompset | Anyways, I'm off. I have some database splitting to do. |
| 11:58 | Good day (24 hour period) everyone. | |
| 12:12 | jcamins | I guess it's morning. |
| 12:13 | (the cat wants breakfast) | |
| 12:13 | kf | :) |
| 12:15 | jcamins | Now he is contemplating my degrees. |
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| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:20 | kf | hi oleonard |
| 12:20 | * kf | thinks 3.10 is shaping up nicely |
| 12:21 | kf | lots of cool features waiting to be explored and documented |
| 12:21 | and tested tested tested during the feature freeze | |
| 12:24 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #843 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) |
| 12:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7993' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9b941a5ddec6470f> / Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]93bae644c6333c524> |
| 12:25 | magnuse | kf: yeah, that would be a good time to write automated tests ala bug 8300 |
| 12:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8300 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Koha should have mechanized testing suite |
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| 12:26 | jcamins | It's *always* a good time to write mechanized tests. |
| 12:26 | * druthb | sneaks in |
| 12:26 | kf | hi druthb |
| 12:30 | * jcamins | waves. |
| 12:30 | magnuse | \o/ |
| 12:30 | jcamins: true, of course! ;-) | |
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| 12:43 | fredericd | druthb++ (as translation manager) |
| 12:44 | kf | fredericd++ for being a great translation manager |
| 12:44 | druthb | :) Thanks, fredericd. I'm looking forward to it. You've done a great job; those are big shoes for me to fill. |
| 12:44 | fredericd++ | |
| 12:44 | Just need to figure out what needs handing off, and how, at some point. | |
| 12:45 | fredericd | druthb: You can count on me for the transition |
| 12:46 | druthb | I'm planning to have a new Pootle server spun up in the next week or two, ready to go. Other than that, any prep work I should be doin'? |
| 12:48 | * oleonard | cheers druthb |
| 12:48 | fredericd | Not much more. When you're ready drop me a line: I will document my workflow on the Koha wiki, and give you a script I use to automatize conversion between Koha language naming convetion and Pootle one |
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| 12:49 | druthb | Excellent! Thanks! |
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| 12:51 | kf | druthb++ and fredericd++ :) |
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| 12:52 | magnuse | yeah! druthb++ and fredericd++ |
| 12:53 | koyauni | do you know any good software to cat number process please |
| 13:06 | * paul_p | head to bug 2060 ... |
| 13:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
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| 13:07 | paul_p | fredericd = as you're around, I need help to test bug 7421 !!! |
| 13:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7421 enhancement, P4, ---, frederic, Passed QA , UNIMARC authorities DOM indexing mode |
| 13:12 | fredericd | paul_p: vu |
| 13:13 | * paul_p | retreat from bug 2060, as it does not apply :( |
| 13:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
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| 13:30 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #843: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/843/ |
| 13:30 | Paul Poulain: Bug 7993 follow-up to fix POD DOC | |
| 13:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , saved report with hierarchies |
| 13:32 | kf | paul_p: oh :( and jcamins_away just left |
| 13:40 | paul_p | OK, ladies & men, the "passed QA" queue is empty ! (the 8215 and 7421 being waiting for answers or actions) |
| 13:40 | kf | paul_p++ :) |
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| 13:50 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b719d007825563d3d> / Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e97862684865d138> / Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tdiff;h=881ee1b1a |
| 13:50 | kf | hm |
| 13:50 | hmm | |
| 13:50 | the mail from Seth Mayo on the list--- I had that happening in my dev installation | |
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| 13:51 | mveron | Hi #koha |
| 13:52 | kf | hi mveron |
| 13:52 | * mveron | waves to kf |
| 13:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #844 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) |
| 14:01 | jcamins_away | paul_p: rebasing 2060 now. |
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| 14:09 | jcamins_away | paul_p: sorry, not anymore! :P |
| 14:09 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 14:09 | jcamins | That said, paul_p++ |
| 14:10 | samuel | what does it mean a message like this 16:07:54-19/09 zebraidx(4197) [warn] Cannot access path /tmp/7HwXhpGqlW/biblio [No such file or directory] -->i've just seen that in my log |
| 14:11 | jcamins | samuel: most likely it means that either A) you don't have any bib records or B) your Koha user doesn't have permissions to write to /tmp |
| 14:13 | tcohen | greetings #koha |
| 14:13 | jcamins | Greetings, tcohen. |
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| 14:14 | kf | wb drojf |
| 14:15 | drojf | hello again :) |
| 14:23 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6448' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8246db56027931cac> / Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15a018d494f063843> / Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h |
| 14:24 | kf | hm |
| 14:24 | does someone know to which feature the tables collections and collections_tracking belong? | |
| 14:24 | I can't remember seeing htem in a database before | |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Rotating collections. |
| 14:26 | kf | oh |
| 14:26 | jcamins | Dead code? |
| 14:26 | kf | why do we have the tables? |
| 14:26 | yeah - but it's only hidden, it's still there in Koha | |
| 14:27 | jcamins | Ah. I guess that's why we still have the tables. |
| 14:35 | tcohen | can't we just delete that zebraqueue_daemon.pl so I don't hear about for the rest of my life? |
| 14:36 | kf | tcohen: I would think we can |
| 14:36 | isn't there a bug even? hmm | |
| 14:37 | jcamins | Replace it with something that puts a message in syslog: "You were using zebraqueue_daemon. Go set up your cron jobs." |
| 14:39 | tcohen | or "Use koha-index-daemon (from Koha::Contrib::Tamil) instead"? |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Or that. |
| 14:52 | libsysguy | https://twitter.com/libsysguy/[…]48433711920586753 |
| 14:52 | https://twitter.com/libsysguy/[…]48433862319931394 | |
| 14:53 | jcamins | Bet NateC is jealous. |
| 14:56 | kf | NateC? |
| 14:56 | wahanui | I LIKE SPACE AND MY WIFE |
| 14:56 | drojf | lol |
| 14:57 | santy | Hi everybody! Say you have an ubuntu ext4 500GB LVM filesystem just for koha 3.8... what would you recommend sizewise for this partitions: / (containing bin, sbin, dev and root), /usr, /var, /boot, /home, /opt and /tmp? |
| 14:58 | jcamins | santy: lots of space for /var |
| 14:58 | santy: but I don't have exact numbers | |
| 14:59 | santy | for tmp too?... yesterday I noticed that zebra indexing quite uses tmp |
| 15:00 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #844: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/844/ |
| 15:00 | * kyle: Bug 7401 - Shelving Location facet | |
| 15:00 | * oleonard: Bug 6689 [Follow-up] Improve styling of table pager | |
| 15:00 | * jcamins: Bug 8624: Move famfamfam out of theme directory | |
| 15:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Shelving Location facet instead of Branch facet when only 1 branch configured |
| 15:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve styling of table pager | |
| 15:00 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8624 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , famfamfam should be outside theme directory | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | A fair amount of space for /tmp is a good idea, but there is an upper boundary for that- twice the size of the MARC records in your catalog converted to XML. |
| 15:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #845 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 16 days ago) |
| 15:02 | jcamins | There's no upper limit, really, on /var. |
| 15:03 | tcohen | you can always put all the available space for /var and make a symlink /tmp -> /var/tmp |
| 15:03 | jcamins | (though I wouldn't consider it *likely* that you're going to need more than... 80GB?) |
| 15:03 | tcohen++ # for being clever | |
| 15:03 | paul_p: I rebased bug 2060. | |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 15:04 | santy | ok, do you have an estimate for an average marc21 xml record size? 1K? |
| 15:04 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:05 | jcamins | santy: I do not, but that sounds reasonable. Double it to 2 because space is cheap? |
| 15:05 | santy | ok |
| 15:05 | tcohen | 50GB for / should be more than enough |
| 15:06 | santy | there will probably be 500k records |
| 15:06 | tcohen | /dev/xvda1 20G 15G 3.9G 80% / |
| 15:06 | santy | at most |
| 15:06 | tcohen | /dev/xvdc1 78G 29G 46G 39% /var |
| 15:06 | (mysql is on a sepatare server in our setup) | |
| 15:06 | santy | mysql will be on the same machine |
| 15:07 | tcohen | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 15:08 | what I mean to say is that 50GB for /, some GB for swap and the rest for /var | |
| 15:08 | will be ok | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | I think I have 8GB for / and 20GB for /usr |
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| 15:11 | wajasu | note: /tmp is sometimes a tmpfs or shm in RAM , and in some distros(VPSes and such) is cleaned at reboot. /var/tmp should be large and is not usually/supposed to be auto cleaned at reboot. |
| 15:11 | tcohen | jcamins, in recent 3.8.x i found that this was added to koha-conf.xml |
| 15:12 | <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> | |
| 15:12 | <zebra_auth_index_mode>dom</zebra_auth_index_mode> | |
| 15:12 | (dom/grs1) who uses that? | |
| 15:12 | jcamins | tcohen: yes, DOM was pushed to 3.8.2 |
| 15:12 | tcohen | i actually dont have that in my production servers |
| 15:12 | so i guess i'm using grs1 | |
| 15:12 | jcamins | Yes, they're using grs1. |
| 15:13 | santy | is tmp cleaning at reboot desirable/undesirable/inconsecuential for koha |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Any installations pre-DOM will remain GRS1. |
| 15:13 | santy: it doesn't make a difference, since nothing important is stored in /tmp. | |
| 15:13 | That said, you'll reboot so infrequently that you won't notice. | |
| 15:13 | tcohen | may I encounter problems if updating my .conf files and reindex? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | tcohen: you'll need the new Zebra config files as well. |
| 15:14 | Once you have them, all you need to do is set the index modes to DOM, and point Zebra at the *-dom.cfg files. | |
| 15:18 | paul_p | jcamins yeahhh !!! bug 2060 works nicely !!! |
| 15:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 15:19 | paul_p | (in UNIMARC, with diacritics, and all that sort of things !!!) |
| 15:19 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 15:19 | paul_p | Lycée d'état, Besançon, ... |
| 15:19 | jcamins | paul_p: and now that you have it working, aren't you amazed that you survived years without the ability to import authorities from the staff client? |
| 15:19 | paul_p | jcamins frankly ? not at all :D |
| 15:20 | I think I could have lived for years without this feature :D :D | |
| 15:20 | (speaking personnally, not as library support provider) | |
| 15:20 | jcamins | paul_p: heh. Well, *I* have long missed this feature. :P |
| 15:21 | wajasu | is it getting about time to regen a new http://schema.koha-community.org/index.html, or will that happen after 3.10. I use it for reference alot. |
| 15:21 | jcamins | wajasu: probably it is. |
| 15:22 | tcohen | feature freeze may be the time to do it |
| 15:22 | wajasu | yeah, thats what I thought. |
| 15:25 | when i ran a DBIx schema loader tool, it complains about some belongs_to/has_many column that is nullable. | |
| 15:27 | kf: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup? do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items? | |
| 15:34 | * oleonard | grumbles that the rotating collections code should be removed since it never worked properly and has never been updated |
| 15:34 | * jcamins | doesn't know what it is, but thinks you're probably right. |
| 15:38 | oleonard | Anyone else care to comment on Bug 8570? |
| 15:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8570 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Signed Off , Add pagination to the Z39.50 results page |
| 15:39 | * jcamins | defers to you on this. |
| 15:44 | jcamins | I am comfortable with it being included on the basis of your signoff, provided the code passes QA. |
| 15:45 | oleonard | *sigh* a productive morning-killing meeting is still a morning-killing meeting. |
| 15:50 | wajasu | whenever i do a z3950 search i get a popup with search fields and servers. fine. but after i search, the results popup/form has a table and the links on the right are always cut off (I have to resize to click import) is that desired? or should i add an enhancement bug? |
| 15:51 | oleonard | wajasu: You can't accurately predict the size the table will need |
| 15:51 | jcamins | wajasu: that's why you can click anywhere in the table to bring the links up. |
| 15:53 | wajasu | oooh! an easter egg popup link navigator. |
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| 15:57 | wajasu | that suffices. since so many results are high, i just thought moving the links to be stacked in the first column would work. but this works. |
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| 16:07 | * tajoli: Bug 8185: plugin for linking records in MARC21 | |
| 16:07 | * mirko: Bug 8185: Change some more strings from Italian to English | |
| 16:07 | * dpavlin: Bug 6448 - carp on invalid barcode | |
| 16:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Pushed to Master , Plugin for linking records in MARC21 |
| 16:08 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support | |
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| 16:12 | tcohen | jcamins, sorry to bother you again with this, i'm not moving to DOM right now |
| 16:12 | but, the absence of those new entries in koha-conf.xml, could break things? | |
| 16:13 | I mean <zebra_bib_index_mode>dom</zebra_bib_index_mode> | |
| 16:13 | jcamins | tcohen: nope. It defaults to grs-1. |
| 16:13 | tcohen | ok, thanks |
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| 16:20 | * drojf | wonders how one accidentally deletes all usernames and passwords of all staff users |
| 16:21 | rambutan | too much power in the wrong hands |
| 16:21 | drojf | hm and the university vpn does not allow me to send an email to the koha list. sorry claudio |
| 16:24 | cait | drojf: there is probably nothing that can be done... to recover |
| 16:24 | drojf | cait: db user |
| 16:25 | cait | yeah, to get in |
| 16:25 | drojf | and set new passwordss |
| 16:25 | cait | but the data is probably lost .... well.. you could recover from a backup |
| 16:25 | drojf | i think the users are still there, only the passwords and usernames are lost |
| 16:25 | Hi Claudio, | |
| 16:25 | that sounds like quite some misunderstanding. To clarify, the accounts do still exist but they do not have usernames and passwords anymore? | |
| 16:25 | In that case you could login with the Koha database user from koha-conf.xml that you used at the time of installation to modify the accounts. | |
| 16:25 | -- Mirko | |
| 16:26 | i cant send it. mveron just volunteered to do so ;) | |
| 16:27 | * mveron | just sent the message for Claudio... |
| 16:27 | drojf | one problem i see: if the person that deleted the logins and passwords is going to be the one using the db user now, they are going to have a bad time ;) |
| 16:38 | kf: bug 8215 is what i had in mind when talking about "klassensatz". or is that something else? | |
| 16:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Passed QA , Add Course Reserves |
| 16:38 | drojf | hm you are cait now :D |
| 16:38 | cait | it's something else :) |
| 16:39 | that's more what we would call semesterapparat | |
| 16:39 | I think | |
| 16:39 | * jcamins | likes the word "klassensatz." |
| 16:39 | cait | there are programs that offer features for klassensatz - maybe we should ask google |
| 16:39 | jcamins | What does it mean? |
| 16:39 | cait | i found some descriptions last time |
| 16:39 | basically it's enough books for a class (pupils) | |
| 16:40 | school libraries are asking for features for those... but right now I am not exactly sure what they want to do with it | |
| 16:40 | drojf | hm me neither then |
| 16:40 | semesterapparat is nice to have too though :) | |
| 16:41 | cait | ok, supermarket - brb :) |
| 16:41 | drojf | why do you call me supermarket? :P |
| 16:44 | jcamins | drojf: you mean you haven't volunteered to take care of food provision for #koha?!? |
| 16:45 | drojf | jcamins: with me switching from "no wheat" to "no gluten" for a while to see how that goes, i guess i would not be a very interesting supermarket for #koha |
| 16:46 | jcamins | drojf: it will certainly make pizza making more difficult. |
| 16:46 | But not impossible! | |
| 16:46 | drojf | true. i will know all about that soon i'm afraid |
| 16:46 | it will certainly make it expensive :( | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | magnuse: in fact, do I recall you mentioning that you had switched to gluten-free baking for a while? |
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| 16:48 | drojf | i fail to see why a class set (klassensatz) would require special handling. just use one item for the 20 or 30 copies? maybe i miss something about the concept |
| 16:54 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #846 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago) |
| 16:58 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8185' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]636ae5176e2c62296> / Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1a2081d89454bebc8> / Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
| 17:05 | * drojf | heads home |
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| 17:06 | Oak | good night cait |
| 17:09 | cait | back |
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| 17:22 | wajasu | cait: 8415 - do you just need signoff on the followup? do you want me to investigate how we may create an order without being force to create items? |
| 17:26 | cait | wajasu: ah, I found the code for that :) but I have to create a patch an test |
| 17:27 | I would still appreciate if you would take a look | |
| 17:27 | I hope to get to it tonight - but dinner first :) | |
| 17:30 | wajasu | i'll wait for your patch and look at it if/when your patch shows up. |
| 17:31 | i'm going to get into testing overdue_notice related patches ( 8687 6030 ) sincei have email setup. | |
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| 17:39 | fredericd | tcohen: what is the status of your work on the indexer daemon, and its init script? |
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| 17:56 | tcohen | fredericd |
| 17:56 | wahanui | fredericd is translation manager for 3.8 |
| 17:56 | tcohen | i have two functional patches |
| 17:56 | one for a usual .tar.gz setup | |
| 17:56 | and one for a .deb install | |
| 17:58 | bug 8519 and bug 8773 respectively | |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8519 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha-index-daemon run on startup |
| 17:58 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8773 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add per-instance koha-index-daemon in .deb setup | |
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| 18:00 | tcohen | i didn't work on the indexer daemon itself as I understood that yours was chosen over a rewrite of rebuild_zebra.pl on bug 5166 |
| 18:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #846: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 6 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/846/ |
| 18:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Divide budget periods into two tabs | |
| 18:01 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8117: Followup: remove h3 title (duplicate infos) | |
| 18:01 | * Paul Poulain: Bug 8117 follow-up remove perl warning | |
| 18:01 | * Paul Poulain: A follow-up will be added though, because we understood why I had some javascript error and jonathan didn't. It's because I've plack + debug | |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8117 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Divide budget periods into two tabs |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 7475: Update configuration |
| 18:01 | * jcamins: Bug 7475: Teach matching rules to handle authorities | |
| 18:01 | tcohen | so, my patches are only convenient init and helper scripts |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 2060: Update command line MARC import scripts |
| 18:01 | * jcamins: Bug 2060 follow-up: add support for UNIMARCAUTH | |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities |
| 18:01 | jenkins_koha | * Paul Poulain: Bug 2060 follow-up DBRev & updatedatabase |
| 18:01 | * colin.campbell: Bug 6679 Avoid critic failure caused by ambiguous code | |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 18:01 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Signed Off , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests | |
| 18:01 | fredericd | I don't understand the requirement of a deb package. |
| 18:02 | tcohen | on bug 8519 there's no need for a .deb package |
| 18:02 | but bug 8773 needs a .deb package so the complete stack is installable via a repo | |
| 18:03 | is that what you where asking? | |
| 18:04 | fredericd | But for 8519, Mason comment (the last one) seems to ask for a package |
| 18:04 | tcohen | yes, I don't agree |
| 18:05 | fredericd | ok |
| 18:05 | tcohen | but as there is a tacit agreement on having all dependecies packaged |
| 18:05 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Koha::Contrib::Tamil deps as a carton tree command reports" (85 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/188 |
| 18:05 | fredericd | and a deb package isn't that easy since the script itself uses Moose |
| 18:06 | tcohen | i mean, that every new dependency should be available... |
| 18:06 | fredericd | which is a huge dependency |
| 18:06 | A consensus on introducing Moose as standard dependency for Koha would help... | |
| 18:06 | tcohen | right |
| 18:08 | i know nothing about how to have that consensus | |
| 18:08 | wajasu | plus the gpl3 discussion |
| 18:09 | tcohen | gpl3 would be if we where to put that scripts inside koha tree |
| 18:09 | instead of external .deb packages | |
| 18:10 | wajasu | right. you are pursuing an external to koha addon |
| 18:10 | though we agree it should be a behavior in koha. | |
| 18:11 | magnuse | jcamins_away: nope, not gluten free but low carb (not any longer, though...) |
| 18:12 | tcohen | wajasu, i've already walked that path, without any luck |
| 18:12 | i just tried to get koha-index-daemon easy to use for the average user | |
| 18:13 | wajasu | what if we make a non-moose implementation using alot of existing deps. |
| 18:14 | tcohen | as i see it there's no real interest on getting this feature into koha right now |
| 18:14 | maybe once SolR arrives... | |
| 18:14 | take a look at bug 5166 if you have some minutes | |
| 18:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5166 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Reintroduce a zebraqueue daemon, make several rebuild_zebra.pl functions a lib |
| 18:16 | wajasu | i can see your frustation. thrashing with solutions to the problem. |
| 18:16 | oleonard | Hmm... OpenDNS says red.ht is a phishing site... |
| 18:17 | wajasu | since they are reworking search/indexing and undoing coupled code, they probably aren't encouraging new solutions. |
| 18:19 | i suggested to jcamins to add a compositeSearch plugin to his search plugin API. and then one would pick other search plugins to stack or run in parallel or federated) | |
| 18:20 | so if one wanted to have a direct to db search for the biblio or item one just added, could run if the zebra/solr search did not give results. | |
| 18:21 | but was seen as too much maintenence. | |
| 18:21 | tcohen | we currently "officially" rely on rebuild_zebra.pl to do the incremental indexing |
| 18:22 | so I thought we could use the exact same code, to properly have a daemon | |
| 18:22 | (also using new sysprefs so there's no mess with switches and such) | |
| 18:22 | it was the same code rebuild_zebra.pl has | |
| 18:23 | as fredericd's daemon emerged as an alternative, i decided that it was enough rebasing for that patches | |
| 18:23 | and we even have official instrucions for setting 'background indexing' | |
| 18:23 | as we where revisiting the docs (with mtompsett) i said to myself | |
| 18:24 | 'what the hell, lets do some init scripts to make peoples life easier' | |
| 18:24 | its a pathological behaviour I have | |
| 18:24 | just that | |
| 18:26 | mtj | tcohen, feel free to change the blocker status on 8519 - i just make a suggestion, thats all |
| 18:27 | tcohen | i think it doesn't make any difference |
| 18:27 | it is not a problem for me | |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | wajasu: the problem is no one cares to pay for something like that. |
| 18:33 | wajasu | i want it so when i add a bib or item or authority(now), that i can pull it up without waiting. one day. |
| 18:34 | mtj | the trick for 8519 is the split the patch into 2 |
| 18:35 | 1 patch to remove zeb_daemon.pl, and another patch to add the new indexer | |
| 18:35 | bag | mtj? |
| 18:35 | wahanui | DeM KraZy NutZ!! |
| 18:35 | bag | heh |
| 18:35 | love it | |
| 18:35 | cait | mtj: I think there was a problem with the indexer and the license? |
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| 18:36 | cait | I am not sure what it was exactly, but was discussed in the channel yesterday |
| 18:36 | mtj | aaah, gotcha its gpl3, yeah... |
| 18:36 | bag | oh yeah mtj BTW it's national talk like a pirate day (well here) http://www.talklikeapirate.com/about.html |
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| 18:36 | cait | mtj: I think rangi said it could live on a separate repo |
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| 18:37 | cait | because you can use them together but not distribute together with Koha? |
| 18:37 | mtj | *nod* |
| 18:38 | cait | ... and try and sort things out for 3.12 |
| 18:38 | mtj | everyday is talk like a pirate day for bigB |
| 18:41 | cait | ook |
| 18:41 | jcamins_away | wajasu: right, but if implementing that was going to cost tens of thousands of dollars, would it be a high enough priority for you to actually do it? |
| 18:43 | (though it's all completely hypothetical at this point, as the rest of the search code has to be rewritten) | |
| 18:46 | wajasu | true. |
| 18:48 | jcamins_away | Plus, reimplementing search in MySQL really has nothing to recommend it. |
| 18:49 | Much better to continue with integrating the background indexer. | |
| 18:51 | oleonard | Comparing a Bootstrap header menu with the current one: http://screencast.com/t/sP7JyBYwlc |
| 18:52 | jcamins_away | First one is Bootstrap? |
| 18:52 | oleonard | Yes |
| 18:52 | * jcamins_away | could tell because it looked nicer. |
| 18:52 | wajasu | i will only be a resource periodically, but now that i know your process in koha, i can jump in and add value where i can. |
| 18:52 | * cait | waits for it to load :) |
| 18:52 | wajasu | i am lovin the look of the staff client these days :) |
| 18:53 | cait | oleonard: nice! |
| 18:53 | magnuse | yeah, lookin good! |
| 18:55 | wajasu | i wonder if we could get red or light red background color box around the field that are required. i can't see those red asterisks that well these days. oh and turn it to background blue once data is entered. |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Where do you mean wajasu? |
| 18:55 | wajasu | adding a biblio. |
| 18:56 | i import. then click the tabs and want to be able to see what needs to be filled in. | |
| 18:57 | magnuse | o/ |
| 18:57 | wajasu | also if we don't default to an itemtype, maybe we could have a button to the right i can click to make it my primary itemtype(i.e.book) so i don't have to use a drop down. |
| 18:58 | jcamins_away | wajasu: the entire bib editor desperately needs an overhaul. |
| 18:59 | wajasu | forget what i just said. let the overhaul deal with it. |
| 18:59 | * wajasu | back to overdue_notice bug fixes for html and such. |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | wajasu: I was kind of hoping you were volunteering to do the overhaul... |
| 19:00 | :P | |
| 19:00 | wajasu | :) |
| 19:01 | only if folks can agree on our OO strategy | |
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| 19:03 | jcamins_away | wajasu: not Moose. |
| 19:04 | wajasu | i want to rewrite the letter/template stuff to use TT. because i saw that I can redefine the [% and %] to << and >>. it would be nice to |
| 19:04 | jcamins_away | That would be *awesome*. |
| 19:07 | wajasu | then if we write a TT provider to grab them from the DB, we can let users write templates stored inthe DB for notices and custom pages/views. and nigrations would be easier if users didn't customized things in the filesystem. |
| 19:07 | * wajasu | back to overdue_notice testing. |
| 19:11 | wajasu | i hope bug 8687 gets its minor patch soon so I can test it while I have me email hat on. |
| 19:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8687 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Failed QA , Improvements in overdue_notices.pl |
| 19:11 | druthb | botsnack cookie |
| 19:11 | wahanui: botsnack cookie | |
| 19:11 | wahanui | :) |
| 19:11 | druthb | there. |
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| 19:22 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:22 | drojf | good morning rangi |
| 19:23 | cait | good morning rangi |
| 19:23 | wajasu | after searching the catalog, i see details. it would be nice to have a checkout button that navigated me tothe checkout page with the barcode already filled in the box. |
| 19:24 | bag | rangi - it's talk like a pirate day!!! |
| 19:24 | wajasu | maybe a link in the holding details barcode area (right under the barcode) "Checkout" or such |
| 19:24 | rangi | That was yesterday here |
| 19:24 | cait | wajasu: the problem is, for which patron? |
| 19:25 | bag | it be today here… |
| 19:25 | garsh - to the plank with that land lover rangi | |
| 19:26 | cait | lol |
| 19:41 | mtj | aargh, i be yearning to kill thar swabbie tweetbot, arghhh... |
| 19:43 | bag | mtj++ |
| 19:43 | Yarr | |
| 19:44 | mtj | oleonard++ very nice! |
| 19:52 | oleonard | I wonder if there is a T:T option to dump whitespace when outputting HTML |
| 19:52 | jcamins_away | oleonard: yes. |
| 19:52 | [%- %] | |
| 19:52 | Or [% -%] depending which side you want to dump whitespace on. | |
| 19:53 | oleonard | I mean globally. All whitespace between tags in a page |
| 19:53 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 19:53 | I'm not sure. | |
| 19:54 | mtj | oleonard, like a TT compressor? |
| 19:54 | jcamins_away | oleonard: http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]_CHOMP_POST_CHOMP |
| 19:55 | mtj | oooh, thats nice |
| 20:00 | oleonard | Kind of what I was imagining: https://developers.google.com/[…]itespace-collapse |
| 20:01 | jcamins_away | oleonard: how does that differ from setting PRE_CHOMP and POST_CHOMP to 1? |
| 20:02 | oleonard | I don't know I didn't try it. Where do you set it? |
| 20:03 | rangi | C4::Template |
| 20:04 | oleonard: in the new sub | |
| 20:05 | oleonard | Found it, thanks |
| 20:05 | rangi | bonus points |
| 20:05 | make it a config option | |
| 20:05 | oleonard | In what sense? A preference? |
| 20:06 | rangi | config file option |
| 20:06 | so that when doing dev you can turn it on and off without having to hack perl | |
| 20:06 | oleonard | Anyway it's apparently not without hazards. Big JS error right off the bat. |
| 20:06 | rangi | exactly |
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| 20:06 | oleonard | I'll have to do some tests to see if and how it improves performance. |
| 20:07 | rangi | <pre_chomp>1</pre_chomp> |
| 20:07 | etc | |
| 20:07 | in the koha-conf.xml | |
| 20:07 | then you could have it on per site too, on shared infrastructure, if you desired | |
| 20:08 | see how its done with COMPILE_EXT | |
| 20:08 | like that | |
| 20:09 | mtj | oleonard, yeah - thats exactly what i was imagining too, re: w/s compressor |
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| 20:10 | rangi | oleonard: you can use + to disable chomping |
| 20:10 | might have to do that for the js bits that need it | |
| 20:11 | mtj | heya kathryn |
| 20:11 | kathryn | hi there mtj :) |
| 20:11 | * oleonard | scolds his brain for giving him another project |
| 20:14 | kathryn | oh and morning all |
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| 20:27 | martian523 | hi, i'm trying to enter an original marc |
| 20:28 | when it comes to field 100 and 650...etc. these fields seems to be locked | |
| 20:28 | is there a way to unlock them so i can enter the terms manually? | |
| 20:29 | rangi | faq? |
| 20:29 | wahanui | faq is, like, found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 20:29 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:36 | martian523 | tried, but still locked |
| 20:37 | rangi | you switched it to allow? |
| 20:37 | martian523 | yes |
| 20:37 | rangi | no idea then, that works here |
| 20:38 | jcamins_away | Are you sure you actually tried typing in the field? |
| 20:38 | The lock sign does not mean "typing is not allowed." It means "under authority control." | |
| 20:38 | martian523 | ahaha, stupid me, sorry |
| 20:39 | jcamins_away | A lot of people get tripped up. |
| 20:39 | martian523 | thanks |
| 20:40 | santy | hi! I was following the ubuntu install guide and when I issued this command "sudo koha-create --create-db catalogocentral" I got an error 1470 saying String 'koha_catalogocentral' is too long for user name (should be no longer than 16)... so I exed the same command with "cc" as the user name. The problem is, whenever I try to restart koha-common it starts zebra for both catalogocentral and cc, what should I do? |
| 20:40 | jcamins_away | santy: remove catalogocentral. |
| 20:40 | koha-remove catalogocentral | |
| 20:40 | You'll get errors. Ignore them. | |
| 20:40 | santy | I did, to no avail |
| 20:41 | jcamins_away | Hm. |
| 20:41 | santy | it throws the same user name is too long - error |
| 20:41 | jcamins_away | Remove the directory is what I'd do, I think. rm -Ri /etc/koha/sites/catalogocentral |
| 20:41 | santy | ok Ill try |
| 20:41 | jcamins_away | Also, you should follow the Debian guide. |
| 20:42 | packages? | |
| 20:42 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 20:42 | jcamins_away | ^^ follow those instructions |
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| 20:44 | santy | OK I will |
| 20:50 | martian523 | is there a way to get a list of lost items? |
| 20:51 | cait | martian523: there are lots of ways |
| 20:51 | i suggest you make yourself familiar with the built in reports in the reports module | |
| 20:52 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_master now |
| 20:52 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_master build scheduled now |
| 20:52 | rangi | i think we might get to 0 fails with this build |
| 20:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #847 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 2 mo 17 days ago) |
| 20:52 | rangi | we will know in an hour |
| 20:53 | then just this | |
| 20:53 | http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Docs/ | |
| 20:53 | which has been failing since APRIL! | |
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| 20:55 | dcook | Afternoon/morning #koha |
| 20:55 | rangi | hi dcook |
| 20:55 | cait | hi dcook |
| 20:56 | dcook | hey rangi |
| 20:56 | hey cait | |
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| 20:58 | dcook | Does anyone have time to check if items are actually being created when AcqCreateItem is set to "receiving an order"? |
| 20:59 | I swear that I've tried it in the past, but I'm not getting anything in 3.8+ | |
| 21:00 | cait | dcook: that doesn't sound good |
| 21:00 | my 3.8 is not ready right now i think | |
| 21:00 | did you configure an ACQ framework? do the item forms show up? | |
| 21:00 | did you use a barcode that already exsited in the database? | |
| 21:00 | dcook | yeah, the framework is set up and the form shows up |
| 21:00 | cait | (there is a bug with that, it will fail silently) |
| 21:00 | dcook | Hmm |
| 21:01 | I'm noticing a different javascript error when I click on the barcode field | |
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| 21:01 | dcook | Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'field_value' of undefined |
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| 21:02 | dcook | The barcode was definitely unique :/ |
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| 21:04 | cait | dcook: is this javascript or from the logs? |
| 21:05 | dcook | javascript |
| 21:05 | wahanui | somebody said javascript was required for interactions with clicks |
| 21:05 | dcook | But now that I look at it, that's for master... |
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| 21:05 | dcook | My 3.8 doesn't get the error. I'll try a different barcode than the system generated one |
| 21:06 | Actually, I should've articulated myself better from the start | |
| 21:07 | It's not just a lack of item creation. The order isn't being received :/. | |
| 21:07 | ... | |
| 21:07 | And I'm an idiot | |
| 21:08 | I was forgetting to hit "Add" | |
| 21:08 | rangi | heh |
| 21:09 | dcook | I thought "Add" was to pop up a second form for a second item |
| 21:09 | rangi | could probably go a better error message then? |
| 21:09 | or better wording | |
| 21:09 | dcook | Mmm, maybe an error message |
| 21:09 | Saying that no items have been received or added to be received | |
| 21:09 | rangi | yeah |
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| 21:11 | dcook | I'll post an enh bug report in a minute. Now on to testing the actual thing I wanted to test, lol |
| 21:11 | rangi | :) |
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| 21:19 | rangi | jcamins_away: bug 7475 |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7475 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Option to overlay authorities |
| 21:19 | rangi | that should be pushed to master now right? |
| 21:19 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha.git;a=shortlog | |
| 21:19 | since it and bug 2060 have been? | |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 21:20 | rangi | ok, just went through all the patches pushed last night (nz time) none of them needed in 3.8.x |
| 21:21 | cait | dcook: i know exactly how you feel... |
| 21:25 | wajasu | note: chris c requested a patch for bug 8378 for 3.8.x that i added 2 days ago. |
| 21:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore |
| 21:25 | rangi | that chris c guy is a dick |
| 21:27 | cait | yeah, and he never shows up on irc |
| 21:33 | mveron | Good night #koha |
| 21:33 | santy | ok, I started over and followed debians guide on ubuntu precise and arrived to about the same state... now, debians howto does not include the sax parser check procedures, I just checked and it says that it Looks bad... should I follow ubuntuses guide sax instructions anyhow? |
| 21:34 | dcook | night mveron |
| 21:35 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]12286&action=diff |
| 21:35 | this changes GetPreparedLetter | |
| 21:36 | which is used by Reserves, Suggestions, Circ notices, borrower updates | |
| 21:36 | and more | |
| 21:36 | i dont have time to test this in the 2 days before 3.8.5 is released | |
| 21:36 | im holding it for 3.8.6 | |
| 21:36 | it appears the only testing so far has been on overdues | |
| 21:37 | santy | to save you time, I edited ParserDetails.ini files now it Looks good. |
| 21:43 | following both guides (ubuntuses and debian's) I get to the same state... when I open the web page at port 80 there is the apache it works page. But no koha interface could it be I didn't set up koha-sites.conf properly? | |
| 21:46 | cait | santy: what kind of installaton did you do? |
| 21:46 | are you using the koha-common packages? | |
| 21:46 | whch installation manual are you following? | |
| 21:46 | santy | yes koha-common squeezes |
| 21:47 | 3.8 on debian... and saxes part of ubuntuses guide | |
| 21:47 | cait | so did you use the koha-create command? |
| 21:47 | to create an instance? | |
| 21:48 | santy | instance cc is set up, sax looks good, apache it works, but no koha webmin nor opac |
| 21:48 | cait | hm |
| 21:48 | rangi | sounds like a dns issue |
| 21:49 | and or a hosts one | |
| 21:49 | santy | ping www.google.com works |
| 21:49 | rangi | what is the fqdn of your koha site |
| 21:49 | santy | well its an ubuntu installation inside a vm... bridged network adapter |
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| 21:50 | santy | what should I write into the domain linke of koha-sites.conf for a localhost environ? |
| 21:50 | rangi | no |
| 21:50 | dont touch that file | |
| 21:51 | santy | it actually did not exist |
| 21:51 | rangi | look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 21:51 | good | |
| 21:51 | it shouldnt | |
| 21:51 | there should be a file cc in there | |
| 21:51 | edit that one | |
| 21:51 | santy | so should I delete it again? |
| 21:51 | rangi | what? are you making files? |
| 21:52 | santy | well, the guide says "To configure your server for use with DNS names: After install, edit /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf with details about your site. You may need to create this file." |
| 21:52 | rangi | what guide |
| 21:53 | santy | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]base_Availability and http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 21:53 | rangi | oh, you didnt do that before you ran koha-create???? |
| 21:53 | santy | let me check |
| 21:54 | rangi | did you just skip down |
| 21:54 | nothing you change in there now will affect the site you created | |
| 21:54 | only new ones | |
| 21:54 | so look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled | |
| 21:54 | and edit the file cc in there | |
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| 21:57 | santy | here is the sequence: sudo nano /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf -> sudo a2enmod rewrite -> sudo apt-get install mysql-server -> sudo koha-create --create-db cc |
| 21:59 | rangi | cool in that case |
| 21:59 | the file you want to edit is in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ | |
| 21:59 | wahanui | Hmm. No matches for that, rangi. |
| 21:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #847: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 7 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/847/ |
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| 22:01 | santy | the sites-enabled/cc file looks as if it had been configured using the koha-sites.conf file I edited... |
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| 22:02 | santy | I think ths the ServerName attribute... I'll just put localhost... I'm just making tests on a LAN environment |
| 22:13 | ok, I got the admin interface working, had to edit ports.conf and add NameVirtualHost *:8082 and Listen 8082 | |
| 22:14 | but I'm getting still the apache works page instead of the opac | |
| 22:14 | cait | you will have to disable the default website maybe |
| 22:14 | not sure how the packages normally do that? | |
| 22:14 | santy | ... oh I think I have to run the webmin installer first right? |
| 22:14 | cait | you have to run it first but it should show you a maintenance site for koha |
| 22:16 | santy | hmm ok... |
| 22:18 | would you recommend me to install the optional things of the Other Data section in the installer for a multicatalog koha installation? | |
| 22:21 | sorry there are many diverse options, Ill just select the ones that sound ok for us | |
| 22:26 | ok, good hint... just removed the 000-default file from sites-enabled... restarted apache and now kohas beautiful opac interface shows up as intended! | |
| 22:27 | cait | :) |
| 22:27 | instead of removing the file - you could have used the apache command | |
| 22:27 | a2dissite | |
| 22:28 | santy | humm thanks, will have that in mind |
| 22:29 | i'll put that in the spanish guide i'm writing | |
| 22:30 | it just took me 1 and a half our to install ubuntu precise server and koha | |
| 22:37 | dcook | Morning/afternoon/evening, #koha! |
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| 23:34 | martian523 | i was trying to run circulation statistics and 0 results found |
| 23:34 | but we did checkout books | |
| 23:35 | custom reports show there are books being checked out, but not on the circulation statistics | |
| 23:43 | as a matter of fact, all reports on statistics wizards have "0" results | |
| 23:54 | tcohen | a2dissite 000-default |
| 23:55 | async answer |
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