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| 03:38 | mtompset | who |
| 03:38 | Oops... wrong window. :) | |
| 03:38 | Greetings, #koha. | |
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| 04:47 | mtompset | Greetings, cait |
| 04:48 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 04:48 | mtompset | Looks like the GBSD was a success. |
| 04:49 | I feel bad for not being able to participate. This backup project is taking a lot of my CPU power, so I can't do both Koha and it. :( | |
| 04:55 | mtj | mtompset, i run my backups using nice, ioince |
| 04:56 | mtompset | No, I was running simulations on the code I wrote, to confirm it was written properly. |
| 04:56 | mtj | ... which fixes my 'cpu problems with backups' perfectly |
| 04:56 | mtompset | And it wasn't so much CPU power as memory. |
| 04:56 | My poor netbook only has 2GB of RAM. | |
| 04:57 | A VM of 512 and Windows 7 = 512MB left. | |
| 04:57 | not to mention, I'm copying files, here there and everywhere in an attempt to organize them. | |
| 04:58 | Too hard to track several open windows. | |
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| 04:59 | mtj | just get a proper dev system to to that work |
| 04:59 | mtompset | That would be the proper solution... but that costs money. |
| 04:59 | I'm a volunteer getting paid based on donations. | |
| 04:59 | I don't have that moeny. | |
| 05:00 | money. | |
| 05:00 | The netbook is a Christmas gift. | |
| 05:02 | mtj | you cant find a 'spare' pc anywhere? i have so many... i give cant give them away |
| 05:04 | cait | hm found an interesting bug with email encoding, someone an expert in this? |
| 05:05 | bug is coming :) | |
| 05:05 | mtj | mtompset, like you... i experimented doing dev work on VMs running on my laptop |
| 05:06 | it was pretty frustrating :/ | |
| 05:06 | mtompset | Not for the next few months. |
| 05:06 | When I return to Canada, I will get access to a desktop. | |
| 05:07 | Well, it is only frustrating when there are so many things I want to do. | |
| 05:07 | Generally, for one thing... it works well enough. | |
| 05:08 | cait | bug 8626 |
| 05:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8626 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Encoding problem with = in cart emails |
| 05:08 | mtj | mtompset: good news, i haven just seen rangi's and eythain's 'zareason' laptops |
| 05:09 | they are so grunty, i think you could run serious VMs on them | |
| 05:09 | 16 gig memory, i5 or i7 etc | |
| 05:10 | mtompset | Sounds nice. |
| 05:10 | Actually, kf... if you look =51 means ascii character Q. | |
| 05:10 | * druthb | has an i5 with 8 gig. It's got the chops for everything I need. :) |
| 05:10 | mtompset | it should be easy to fix that bug. |
| 05:11 | cait | mtompset: so much I know now - but I don't know what the correct settings are |
| 05:11 | mtj | the thing that drove me crazy with laptop VMs was - a thrashing VM caused your gui to become unresponsive |
| 05:11 | cait | so far I can only tell that quoted-printable seems not to work |
| 05:13 | mtompset | it isn't the quoted-printable so much as not escaping the =. |
| 05:14 | cait | ok, but how do you escape it correctly? I am a bit stuck on this right now |
| 05:15 | mtompset | Is it perl creating this email? |
| 05:16 | cait | yes |
| 05:16 | mtompset | opac-basket.pl? |
| 05:16 | opac-sendbasket.pl | |
| 05:17 | cait | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f48345b3cdec058ce |
| 05:17 | mtj | hmm , perhaps Email::Simple fixes this stuff |
| 05:17 | ? -> http://search.cpan.org/~rjbs/E[…]b/Email/Simple.pm | |
| 05:18 | cait | hm I am a bit worried to include another dependency |
| 05:19 | mtj | well, its a great dep to add :) |
| 05:20 | mtompset | I was thinking perhaps CGI has an encode URL function which would do it. |
| 05:20 | But I have to read the code to determine where I would put it. | |
| 05:21 | mtj | cait, if we fix a bunch of email-encoding bugs with Email::Simple, then it is worth it |
| 05:22 | cait | not sure we got the problem everywhere even |
| 05:22 | I only ran into it because I wanted to bring back the urls pointing to the catalog | |
| 05:22 | mtompset | http://search.cpan.org/~markst[…]AUTOESCAPING_HTML |
| 05:22 | cait | and I had urls in my data that had = |
| 05:22 | mtompset: not sure html is our problem here - it's a text mail | |
| 05:22 | mtompset | but that might not be sufficient. |
| 05:23 | mtj | cait, i think the problem is everywhere :) we just havent noticed it yet... |
| 05:24 | cait | not sure really, I think most mails don't include the links |
| 05:24 | mtompset | http://search.cpan.org/~gaas/M[…]otedPrint/Perl.pm |
| 05:25 | cait | do we have to use quoted-printable even? |
| 05:25 | mtompset | good question... I haven't hunted for other valid settings. |
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| 05:25 | mtompset | Though, if you use HTML email, then use could use the CGI escapeHTML. |
| 05:26 | I think the use of quoted printable is to support text-only email clients. | |
| 05:26 | mtj | mtompset, html in email is bad :) |
| 05:27 | mtompset | spam filters are more likely to block it, yes. |
| 05:27 | mtj | cait, i added my comment to the bug ticket |
| 05:28 | cait | thx mtj :) |
| 05:28 | I will pick a few more minds today to see if we can do with something we already use | |
| 05:28 | mtj | mtompset, yes... but html-emails are bad for other reasons, too |
| 05:28 | cait | right now I am happy to have tracked down the problem ... it took me quite a while |
| 05:30 | mtj | cait, potentially all emails generated by Koha have the same subtle bug, as this? |
| 05:30 | cait | mtj: it used to work before we changed the cart template generation |
| 05:30 | mtj | ... if they dont use something like Email::Simple |
| 05:30 | cait | mtj: but also back then the diacritics were broken, so I think somewhere in between there might be a way |
| 05:31 | mtj | aah, ok - interesting.... |
| 05:31 | mtompset | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME#Content-Type |
| 05:31 | interesting read. | |
| 05:33 | mtj | yeah, email stuff gets pretty tricky, pretty quick |
| 05:34 | mtompset | opac-sendshelf.pl would have a similar problem./ |
| 05:34 | cait | what about: http://perldoc.perl.org/MIME/QuotedPrint.html |
| 05:34 | mtompset: yes, but that's broken in translated templates anyway, if we get the cart right, we can port it to all other places | |
| 05:35 | mtompset | Yes, cait. That's what I pointed at before. :) |
| 05:35 | cait | mtompset: yours is a cpan module - i think this one is core? |
| 05:37 | mtompset | Okay, I had a ::Perl on mine. :P |
| 05:38 | cait | ok, continuing research |
| 05:39 | mtj | ok, i gotta scoot now.... |
| 05:39 | mtompset | Have fun. See you later, mtj. |
| 05:40 | mtj | but, as a final thought.. theres a good chance that koha handles this bug correctly, somewhere else... |
| 05:41 | it might be worth having a quick look/grep thru the code, to check that | |
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| 05:43 | mtj | i think ive bumped into this bug before in Koha, so its also probably been fixed before? :) |
| 05:44 | ok, ciao #koha... | |
| 05:44 | mbalmer | g'day |
| 05:47 | cait | bye mtj :) |
| 05:47 | mtompset | strange... |
| 05:48 | I don't think this bug exists on 3.6.x, cait | |
| 05:48 | cait | no it doesn't |
| 05:48 | mtompset | Only on master? |
| 05:48 | cait | but in 3.6.x all diacritics are broken |
| 05:48 | so that's not much better | |
| 05:48 | we changed the way the cart email is sent because translations were totally broken, we just didn't get it quite right yet | |
| 05:48 | but I think I have an idea | |
| 05:49 | mtompset | question... |
| 05:49 | wahanui | question is probably "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 05:49 | mtompset | There are TWO things in the email that is sent, right? |
| 05:50 | The ermail message and an attachment? | |
| 05:51 | I'm wondering if the base64 encoded section works. | |
| 05:51 | If so, then we could put base64 encoding for the message itself. | |
| 05:53 | cait | hm |
| 05:54 | mtompset | I'm looking at 3.6.3 code, myself. |
| 05:55 | cait | maybe using encode_qp in the right place is enough |
| 05:56 | mtompset | But you said the diacritics were broken. |
| 05:56 | cait | try umlauts in 3.6.3 |
| 05:57 | mtompset | I can't. |
| 05:57 | The library turned off login's. | |
| 05:57 | cait | ah |
| 05:57 | mtompset | I have the power to change that, but not the authority. :( |
| 05:57 | cait | there is a send cart function in staff as wel |
| 06:00 | mtompset | Okay... but I think mail is busted on our server. :( |
| 06:00 | I never could figure out how to get it set up. | |
| 06:07 | cait | ah |
| 06:07 | I think we can get it working with encode_qp which doesn't need an additional module | |
| 06:09 | mtompset | Probably. |
| 06:09 | But then you'll likely still have the same diacritic problem. | |
| 06:10 | so line 146 becomes $body = encode_qp($1); | |
| 06:12 | Though, I wonder if perhaps it should be encode_qp(encode("UTF-8",$1)); | |
| 06:12 | and possibly solve diacritic problems too? | |
| 06:13 | I'm just thinking out loud. :) | |
| 06:16 | cait | mtompset: nope, that breaks the diacritics again |
| 06:16 | I tried it | |
| 06:17 | i think because it's already utf-8 - you could double encode | |
| 06:17 | would | |
| 06:17 | mtompset | Ah... okay... |
| 06:18 | but encode_qp works and the diacritics don't break? | |
| 06:27 | cait | doesn't look like they do |
| 06:27 | I have hebrew, umlauts, some spanish accents | |
| 06:31 | in general the way we get the data is is not good... but that's out of the scope of the bug | |
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| 06:36 | mtompset | is is? |
| 06:37 | Salutations, julian_m hdl | |
| 06:37 | julian_m | hello mtompset |
| 06:41 | cait | mtompset: using an old way to do that.. prints out some information not correctly, like too many subfields |
| 06:41 | hi julian_m and hdl | |
| 06:41 | and brb :) | |
| 06:41 | julian_m | hello cait |
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| 06:49 | francharb | Good morning #koha |
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| 07:01 | mtompset | Greetings, francharb |
| 07:01 | francharb | Hi mtompset |
| 07:04 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 07:06 | mtompset | Greetings, sophie_m |
| 07:06 | Greetings, matts | |
| 07:06 | matts | hi ! |
| 07:08 | rangi | evening |
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| 07:12 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:25 | rangi | hmm when i said yes post to the list, i didnt mean all at once! |
| 07:27 | * mtompset | laughs, "That's why I didn't answer." |
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| 08:20 | rangi | hi magnuse |
| 08:20 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 08:21 | hiya rangi | |
| 08:21 | kf | morning magnuse :) |
| 08:21 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 08:26 | mtompset | Greetings magnuse rangi |
| 08:27 | magnuse | hiya mtompset |
| 08:39 | oops: http://lists.koha-community.org/ - anyone from biblibre (?) feel like fixing that? | |
| 08:39 | huh, that was weird | |
| 08:39 | now it works | |
| 08:39 | rangi | heh |
| 08:40 | magnuse | at first try i got a "this site is insecure" thing |
| 08:40 | then i made an exception for it and was taken to some kind og admin login | |
| 08:40 | but now it works | |
| 08:40 | rangi | oh its just a self signed cert |
| 08:40 | which are often more secure than the 'secure' ones | |
| 08:41 | which is why the way browsers check them is dumb | |
| 08:41 | i use the eff https everywhere firefox plugin, with the ssl observatory | |
| 08:46 | * magnuse | should check that out |
| 08:46 | rangi | https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere |
| 08:46 | magnuse | still weird that i got somewhere other than the lists page, though |
| 08:47 | rangi | https://www.eff.org/observatory |
| 08:47 | bad redirect maybe? | |
| 08:48 | magnuse | might be |
| 08:51 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:51 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 15.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:52 | magnuse | the sun is shining from a clear sky - summer at last! ;-) |
| 08:52 | rangi | heh |
| 08:52 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 08:52 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 11.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on August 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.65 in 1004 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:53 | magnuse | pft ;-) |
| 08:53 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:53 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.2°C (10:50 AM CEST on August 13, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:54 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 08:54 | kf | nice day for eythian to arrive here |
| 08:54 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 26.0°C (10:30 AM CEST on August 13, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:54 | kf left #koha | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | ouch, too hot! |
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| 08:54 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:55 | rangi | hi drojf |
| 08:55 | drojf | hey rangi |
| 08:57 | magnuse | hiya drojf |
| 09:00 | drojf | hei magnuse |
| 09:00 | * drojf | is sneezing a lot |
| 09:01 | drojf | hope it's allergy related and not rangi's flu |
| 09:02 | magnuse | ooh, data virus? |
| 09:02 | rangi | heh |
| 09:03 | kf joined #koha | |
| 09:03 | magnuse | wb kf |
| 09:03 | kf | :) |
| 09:03 | had to reboot :) | |
| 09:05 | drojf | hi kf :) |
| 09:05 | rangi | windows rules! |
| 09:05 | drojf | it does? |
| 09:05 | rangi | yeah rebooting is awesome, i miss it |
| 09:05 | drojf | hahaha |
| 09:07 | magnuse | rangi: you *can* reboot linux too, you know ;-) |
| 09:08 | kf | lol |
| 09:08 | rangi | i think i did last year once |
| 09:08 | :) | |
| 09:10 | magnuse | hm, i have to reboot every now and then after a software upgrade? |
| 09:10 | usually a new kernel, i guess | |
| 09:10 | but that might not count | |
| 09:11 | rangi | yeah i reboot for new kernels, but i generally only change kernel if there is a security issue |
| 09:12 | * magnuse | does whatever ubuntu update manager tells him to |
| 09:12 | rangi | :) |
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| 09:17 | rangi | what the heck is oleonard doing awake? |
| 09:18 | * oleonard | grumbles groggily |
| 09:18 | oleonard | 5 days offline and worrying about work I guess |
| 09:19 | magnuse | ooh, addicted! |
| 09:21 | kf | :) |
| 09:21 | oleonard | Trying to catch up on the mobile theme saga |
| 09:21 | magnuse | there's a mobile theme saga? |
| 09:21 | * magnuse | never did catch up with the lists after his holiday... |
| 09:21 | kf | lots of patches to sign off on from jared |
| 09:22 | oleonard: uhoh, I just rmembered thta I wanted to test your patch for moving the js libraries :( | |
| 09:22 | oleonard | Yeah, I'm confused about why there is a new bug for that |
| 09:22 | mtompset | Hmmm... "addicted"... that reminds me of a Robert Palmer song: http://youtu.be/ZNERRLdT-JA |
| 09:23 | oleonard | I haven't read up properly yet |
| 09:23 | rangi | ah yep, its been done in a nice way now, as a separate theme, rather than as a drop in replacement |
| 09:23 | kf | oleonard: I think it's a little different, moving images and other things |
| 09:24 | oleonard | rangi, is that because it was changing the default appearance of the OPAC as well, not just showing a mobile view for smaller devices? |
| 09:24 | rangi | yup |
| 09:24 | http://opac.koha.workbuffer.org/ <-- quite nice mind | |
| 09:24 | but different | |
| 09:24 | but it gives a good opportunity to fix the themes | |
| 09:24 | with a working example | |
| 09:25 | the nice thing is, the themes step down, like the languages do, so if masthead.inc and the css file are really all you changed, thats all that actually needs to be in your theme | |
| 09:26 | im hoping that if we get this tidied away, all the other people who have done mobile themes, might submit them in usable forms :) | |
| 09:26 | mtompset | which bug/patch is being discussed? |
| 09:26 | magnuse | rangi: good plan :-) |
| 09:27 | oleonard | mtompset, Bug 8597 |
| 09:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 09:32 | mtompset | very nice! |
| 09:33 | oleonard | So I guess back to the drawing board again with Bug 4048 |
| 09:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 09:34 | kf | oleonard: oh :( |
| 09:35 | magnuse | rangi: you planning on signing off on that? |
| 09:35 | rangi | on what? the 4 bugs to do with the new theme? nope |
| 09:35 | i had too much input | |
| 09:35 | to sign off | |
| 09:39 | magnuse | fair enough :-) |
| 09:42 | oleonard | brb |
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| 09:54 | magnuse | wb oleonard ;-) |
| 09:58 | oleonard | Has anyone else tried testing Bug 8623? |
| 09:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories |
| 09:59 | oleonard | The second patch isn't applying for me |
| 10:00 | rangi | lemme check |
| 10:01 | nope not for me, i suspect its dependent on an earlier patch | |
| 10:02 | yeah based on 46e0c09 | |
| 10:04 | needs the patch for 8622 first | |
| 10:04 | bug 8622 | |
| 10:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha themes broken |
| 10:07 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 10:07 | kf | jcamins++ :) |
| 10:08 | mtompset | jcamins? |
| 10:08 | wahanui | jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 10:08 | mtompset | At least the theming parts of it. ;) |
| 10:09 | rangi | nope, to his credit he didnt cop out and take the easy way out, he fixed things, instead of rewriting |
| 10:15 | kf | oh no |
| 10:15 | belated happy birthday wishes to you magnuse! | |
| 10:16 | magnuse | thanks! |
| 10:17 | kf | it was saturday, right? 11th? |
| 10:17 | magnuse | yup |
| 10:18 | mtompset | What's the age mod 10? |
| 10:18 | oleonard | Happy birthday magnuse! |
| 10:18 | rangi | happy birthday! |
| 10:19 | magnuse | thank you, thank you! |
| 10:20 | mtompset | Happy Belated Birthday. :) |
| 10:20 | magnuse | mtompset: 9 (if i'm not mistaken - "$x % 10" in perl, right?) |
| 10:20 | mtompset | Ah, you avoided the decade switch. Congrats. |
| 10:21 | magnuse | :-) |
| 10:21 | not sure i will manageme to avoid it next year, though | |
| 10:22 | mtompset | You can, if you change the base of your age. ;) |
| 10:22 | But then it isn't really a decade. :) | |
| 10:22 | magnuse | ah, clever! |
| 10:24 | * kf | has decided to switch to another version numbering theme next year |
| 10:25 | kf | kf release chocolate chip cookie maybe |
| 10:28 | oleonard | When you release a new version do you have to tell some people their software is no longer compatible? |
| 10:29 | kf | hm I don't think so? |
| 10:30 | oleonard | Lucky for us |
| 10:48 | mtompset | The second digit represents how much dark chocolate is in the cookie? |
| 10:49 | The third digit is the number of cookies made? | |
| 10:49 | * magnuse | starts work on his most ambitious koha project so far: bug 8628 |
| 10:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8628 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add digital signs to the OPAC |
| 10:49 | kf | ooh |
| 10:49 | mtompset | The first digit is eating session number? |
| 10:49 | kf | I am reading the rfc right now |
| 10:50 | can you give an example for a sign? | |
| 10:50 | magnuse | what it will look like? |
| 10:50 | or what it will contain? | |
| 10:50 | kf | hm both? :) |
| 10:50 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:51 | i have some screenshots (mockups) from the customer, i have asked if i can share them, just to be on the safe side | |
| 10:51 | kf | ok :) |
| 10:51 | magnuse | one use is "recently returned items", or "new items" or "items on a specific theme" |
| 10:52 | anything the library wants to "show off" | |
| 10:53 | oleonard | rangi, shouldn't 8623 depend on, rather than block 8622? |
| 10:55 | rangi | probably |
| 11:06 | jcamins_away | oleonard, we still need bug 4048 for css and javascript, just not for lib. |
| 11:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 11:07 | jcamins_away | Wait, just css. Javascript is translated. |
| 11:09 | * jcamins_away | goes to pack. |
| 11:09 | kf | jcamins_away: no it's not |
| 11:12 | rangi | wait that? yes it is? why do we bother putting the _( stuff then? |
| 11:13 | kf | it is |
| 11:13 | but not the .js files | |
| 11:13 | and they were talking about which directoreis to move out of theme/language | |
| 11:13 | go to sleep | |
| 11:13 | ;) | |
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| 11:22 | magnuse | kf: screenshots (mockups) added to the wiki page |
| 11:22 | kf | cool |
| 11:22 | ooooh pretty | |
| 11:23 | magnuse | yeah, i did not make those :-) |
| 11:23 | (Viktor did) | |
| 11:23 | kf | viktor++ :) |
| 11:23 | and greetings to him :) | |
| 11:23 | magnuse | yup, Viktor++ |
| 11:24 | * magnuse | wanders off in search of lunch |
| 11:26 | clrh | hello |
| 11:26 | I'm back | |
| 11:26 | kf | welcome back clrh |
| 11:26 | how was your vacation? | |
| 11:26 | clrh | thanks kf |
| 11:27 | too short as all vacations but great as all holidays :) | |
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| 11:48 | kf | clrh: :) |
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| 11:58 | oleonard | jcamins_away, I don't think there's any reason anymore to keep 4048 open based on the work you've been doing. New work can just be submitted against your bug reports |
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| 12:07 | * oleonard | will return later |
| 12:14 | * mtompset | waves bye. |
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| 12:39 | bornie21 | hey everyone I am an IT technician and recently did a koha setup for our Library in Mutare, Zimbabwe and am facing challenges in creating authority records(infact I dont knw wht those are) |
| 12:40 | nengard | jcamins is the authorities expert :) |
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| 12:43 | tcohen | morining #koha |
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| 12:47 | magnuse | bornie21: sounds like reading up on authority records might be a good idea: http://www.loc.gov/marc/uma/ (i don't know much about them myself, though...) |
| 12:49 | hdl1 | bornie21: hi. |
| 12:49 | if I can be of any help | |
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| 13:27 | jcamins_away | bornie21: always ask questions in-channel. |
| 13:27 | You probably don't need authority records, if you're not sure what they are. | |
| 13:38 | wajasu | mornin |
| 13:39 | i tried to test/signoff on a few bugs last week. | |
| 13:40 | bug 4222 was an interesting read | |
| 13:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4222 major, P2, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client |
| 13:42 | wajasu | there was a concern in the bug discussion about breaking things with some custom mapping or usage in 942x nonpublic note |
| 13:42 | i talked toby user and they said they used that field for spine label related stuff. | |
| 13:44 | kf | wajasu: they don't have to change their mappings |
| 13:44 | wajasu | ok |
| 13:45 | kf | wajasu: and in theory they can also map another field to the new field in items - although I would recommend moving the spine label related information in another place and work to go with the standard |
| 13:45 | but it shoudl not break anything | |
| 13:45 | wajasu | ok i'll reattempt that one today. |
| 13:46 | kf | I think we needed to make it a real column in the db - it's a good change, figuring out how to do it in a safe way is a bit trickier, but you won't lose data |
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| 13:47 | wajasu | i have many questions on the bugs i attempted. |
| 13:48 | bug 5858 - should that be in discussion, or should i try to signoff? | |
| 13:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Default frameworks missing many MARC21 tags |
| 13:51 | magnuse | wajasu: looked like in discussion to me too, really |
| 13:51 | wajasu | ok |
| 13:51 | maximep | good morning =) |
| 13:55 | oh wow, jcamins did amazing job on bug 8597. I didn't even know you could have multiple theme and change them with the opacthemes syspref o_O | |
| 13:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 13:55 | maximep | jcamins++ |
| 13:55 | wajasu | bug 7720 - i started on this. one applied, I think "Location" dissappeard from the holdings tabl for an opac user. So i tried to create a holding, but i always got an error "Too many holds". |
| 13:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Ambiguity in OPAC Details location. |
| 13:56 | wajasu | maybe bug 4045 needs fixing first for me to work on 7720 |
| 13:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 13:57 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:59 | wajasu | as i was working on overdue notices, I noticed cirrculation rules had an entry for "Holds allowed". Must I configure a circ rule to get max number of holds allowed to work? |
| 14:15 | bug8382 - i think for me to test this i kept getting "You must define a budget in Administration". created a vendor, created a budget/fund. i can't get further. must i do planning? | |
| 14:16 | i can't create an order because i still get "You must define a budget in Administration" | |
| 14:16 | kf | wajasu: did you mark the budget as active? |
| 14:17 | wajasu | yes |
| 14:17 | kf | hm. |
| 14:17 | wajasu | even tried locked/unlocked. |
| 14:17 | kf | and you created a fund for it? |
| 14:17 | and allocated money for the fund? | |
| 14:17 | wajasu | yup. $400 available |
| 14:17 | kf | oh, and also, try setting it to be for your library |
| 14:17 | that you are logged in at | |
| 14:18 | acq is very restrictice | |
| 14:18 | restrictive | |
| 14:18 | wajasu | where do i assign the library? |
| 14:18 | kf | in the fund |
| 14:18 | restrict to - library and then choose your home library | |
| 14:19 | wajasu | i see |
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| 14:19 | wajasu | there is/was a popup showing MPL whic i am signed in as (midway) |
| 14:20 | i even set teh fund filter, and it show the fund | |
| 14:21 | wizzyrea | wajasu: yes you must have a default circ rule to allow holds |
| 14:21 | for all-all | |
| 14:22 | wajasu | wizzyrea: thanks. I'll do that and retry setting a hold.and testing tht bug. |
| 14:22 | kf | wizzyrea++ :) |
| 14:23 | bbl bye all :) | |
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| 14:24 | bornie21 | hey guys I am Koha newbie and I have been trying to add a new book in the catalog and on saving, I can't find when I do a search in the OPAC |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | searching faq? |
| 14:25 | wahanui | searching faq is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:25 | bornie21 | ok thnx let me see if I can find anything |
| 14:28 | wajasu | bornie21: if you just set things up, you might need to configure/run the zebra search server (zebrasrv should be running) if you are running zebra. And look into running rebuild_zebra.pl -b -a -r to get teh zebra indexes generated. |
| 14:30 | i signed off on bug8607 and as kf mentioned i might try to do a followup fix for the fine to display correctly. Fine: $0.00 USD instead of Fine: USD | |
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| 14:35 | tcohen | thanks for signing wajasu |
| 14:37 | wajasu | tcohen: glad you did that work! it was sorely needed. |
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| 14:42 | tcohen | its the second time I do it wajasu! hahaha |
| 14:43 | hope this one has more consensus | |
| 14:43 | (is that the way of saying it in english?) | |
| 14:43 | wajasu | pey |
| 14:43 | yes | |
| 14:43 | magnuse | wajasu++ |
| 14:44 | dinnertime! | |
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| 15:06 | rambutan | @seen life |
| 15:06 | huginn | rambutan: I have not seen life. |
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| 15:25 | wajasu | i created a budget, then a fund for that budget, assigning it to my library (no restriction), and whenever i go to aquisitions, it still wants me to define a budget :( |
| 15:25 | its active. money is available. | |
| 15:27 | running master sandard install for testing | |
| 15:28 | wait | |
| 15:28 | i'm in my vendor now | |
| 15:28 | receive shipment. | |
| 15:34 | i open my basket, but it wants a budget/fund defined. | |
| 15:36 | but i have one defined. with a fund. | |
| 15:37 | wizzyrea | hm I'm not seeing that problem |
| 15:37 | how much is in your fund? | |
| 15:37 | wajasu | i have two, one for 800 and one for 400 (base-level remaining) |
| 15:38 | fund codes (Fc1 and FC2) | |
| 15:38 | they are Funds for "fall budget 2012" | |
| 15:38 | so they are accosiated with that budget | |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | i'm not having this issue :( |
| 15:39 | wajasu | must i associate the budget with the vendor? or does that happend when an order is placed. |
| 15:39 | wizzyrea | no, you shouldn't need to do that |
| 15:39 | does it do it on master or only with the patch you're testing | |
| 15:39 | * wizzyrea | is on master |
| 15:40 | wajasu | master but i am in a patch branch. let me try with fresh master, to see if patch influenced it. |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | lol however, I can't increase the quantity of an order above 0 |
| 15:43 | tcohen | any advise on how to deal with this problem? |
| 15:43 | http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…]earch.pl?q=biblia | |
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| 15:45 | wajasu | tcohen: are you printing labels? |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | no, just a search result |
| 15:45 | wajasu | or just search? |
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| 15:45 | tcohen | nope |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | in the result set are there records with really uncommon characters? |
| 15:46 | tcohen | is there a way to get that result set outside from koha? |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | well can you see it in the staff client? |
| 15:46 | tcohen | I'm sure there's a broken record |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | say the cataloging search |
| 15:46 | tcohen | same error on staff interface |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | oo. yikes. |
| 15:46 | cataloging search too? | |
| 15:47 | more -> cataloging | |
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| 15:47 | wizzyrea | search from there |
| 15:47 | tcohen | mmm |
| 15:47 | in staff interface it says the same | |
| 15:47 | BUT... | |
| 15:47 | it referes to http://bmayor.biblioadmin.unc.[…]biblionumber=1945 | |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | \o/ squee |
| 15:48 | tcohen | http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…]biblionumber=1945 |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | dunno, the record looks ok http://bmayor.biblio.unc.edu.a[…]biblionumber=1945 |
| 15:48 | for 1945 | |
| 15:49 | tcohen | YES, IT LOOKS OK |
| 15:49 | sorry | |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | hehe sok |
| 15:49 | anything in the log/ | |
| 15:49 | ? | |
| 15:50 | tcohen | search.pl: utf8 "\\xC3" does not map to Unicode at /usr/lib/perl/5.14/Encode.pm line 174., referer: http://bmayor.biblioadmin.unc.[…]biblionumber=1945 |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | would that record be the only result for that query? |
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| 16:03 | tcohen | wizzyrea, how can I know which records that search returns? |
| 16:04 | hdl1 | tcohen: try and look at either zebra logs or type the rpn query in yaz-client console |
| 16:04 | tcohen | thanks hdl1 |
| 16:05 | wajasu | i did a fresh kohaclone. make, make install, new budget, new fund, Still have the message "You must define a budget in Administration" on acquisitions page. |
| 16:05 | i must be dowing something wrong? restriction = none | |
| 16:06 | my library is set to midway | |
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| 16:23 | jcamins_away | wajasu there was a bug about that. Can't kook from phine. |
| 16:24 | look | |
| 16:24 | phone | |
| 16:24 | wajasu | ok just found bug 8452 |
| 16:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8452 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , "You must define a budget in Administration" always shows on acqui-home.pl |
| 16:24 | jcamins_away | yes. |
| 16:25 | tcohen, problem is marc 8. Run touch all biblios on rhat record only. | |
| 16:26 | wizzyrea | interesting that I wasn't seeing that |
| 16:27 | really ought to blow away this testing DB I guess. | |
| 16:45 | wajasu | ok. i added a patron "staff" with aquisitions permissions, and superlibrarian |
| 16:46 | i went to add an order. i could not edit quantity, but i could pick the fund. | |
| 16:46 | so i am stuck trying to edit the quantity field. | |
| 16:47 | must i create a ACQ framework? | |
| 16:48 | hdl1 | wajasu: creating an ACQ framework is quite a good idea if you mean tu use acquisition. |
| 16:48 | You can duplicate default framework into ACQ for quick first useage | |
| 16:48 | wajasu | ok |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | yea, That's where I got stuck too |
| 16:53 | wajasu | is there a feature to dup an existing? can't figure it out from "New framework" |
| 16:54 | ok. i have to click marc structure and it offers to create from default. | |
| 16:58 | when editing accounting details, i can't edit the quantity still :( | |
| 16:58 | so i can't save the order. | |
| 17:00 | Hmm. | |
| 17:03 | going to lunch. maybe that will help. | |
| 17:07 | wizzyrea | yup I couldn't change the quantity either |
| 17:07 | the rest I didn't get stuck on | |
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| 17:10 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | hey oleonard |
| 17:12 | wahanui | i guess oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 17:19 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:19 | tcohen | jcamins_away: sorry, I was having lunch |
| 17:19 | could you elaborate? | |
| 17:20 | oleonard | Feeling better wizzyrea? |
| 17:20 | wajasu | let anyone who can create an order in aquisitions (i.e. make quantity >1 ) please stand up :) |
| 17:20 | tcohen | bin/maintenance/touch_all_biblios.pl |
| 17:20 | nengard | if you don't enter a password for a patron does it leave the pw field blank? I have someone asking for a report of patrons without passwords, but I'm getting no data |
| 17:21 | wizzyrea | oy yes I think so |
| 17:21 | how about you? | |
| 17:22 | for a while there was a default password of ! | |
| 17:22 | oleonard | Better. |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | I think we fixed it though, it's been ages ago |
| 17:23 | nengard | that i remember, removing the ! |
| 17:24 | but if we removed that does that means it's NULL? or is there something in there no matter what? | |
| 17:24 | wajasu | i need to be able to create an order to signoff bug 8382 |
| 17:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8382 blocker, P1 - high, ---, christophe.croullebois, Needs Signoff , It is not possible to cancel an order when receiving on a filtered page in parcel.pl |
| 17:26 | jcamins | tcohen: just as well, I was traveling. |
| 17:27 | tcohen: touch_all_biblios.pl --where='biblionumber=whatever' | |
| 17:30 | wajasu | ok. i fugured out how to get the quantity increased. i had to click "Add" in the section above. (also refer to bug 1966) |
| 17:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1966 enhancement, P3, ---, henridamien, NEW , Allow manual editing of Qty |
| 17:33 | wajasu | boy, acquisitions needs usability work. maybe a hint to "Add" in the section above, next to the required field. plus document how to "dup" a frawwork, by adding ACQ, then clicking "MARC structure"... and finally add some documentation. |
| 17:33 | let alone, i must be a not suprelibrarian biblionumber to even add orders. | |
| 17:34 | now onto my signoff test | |
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| 17:38 | oleonard | When was it we were supposed to have fixed that "!" password bug? |
| 17:39 | * oleonard | just created a new patron and the value stored in the password field in the database is "!" |
| 17:43 | fcapovilla | I remember that : its in AddMember. The default behavior when you try to create a user without a password is to use "!" as the password : |
| 17:43 | $data{'password'} = ($data{'password'})? md5_base64($data{'password'}) : '!'; | |
| 17:45 | oleonard | ...which is okay because you can't submit a password which hashes to "!" |
| 17:46 | fcapovilla | yep, I'm still searching why it lets you connect with that |
| 17:46 | oleonard | What do you mean? |
| 17:47 | fcapovilla | I did some tests a long time ago and could connect to the user account using "!" |
| 17:47 | Dunno if it still works | |
| 17:50 | oleonard | It doesn't if borrowers.password = "!" |
| 17:50 | fcapovilla | Forget what I said, looks like it got fixed. I said that was a long time ago |
| 18:09 | jcamins | fcapovilla: did you get the final patch for the new theme from my github? |
| 18:10 | fcapovilla | No, I tried to apply all your patchs on a copy of master to make sure everything was up to date |
| 18:10 | But files like ccsr/en/css/opac.css aren't present in your patchs | |
| 18:10 | wajasu | i'm working on signoff test for bug8382. can someone help me confirm the intent. it looks like a javascript fix to enabling cancelling an order via a filter. But I get "Can't delete order and catalog record" |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Ah, yeah, that was why you had problems with the CSS. The patch with the CSS, javascript, and images was too big to attach to bugzilla, so it is in my github repository. |
| 18:11 | I'll take a look at the new patch. | |
| 18:13 | fcapovilla | I tried to make the new preferences work in the prog and ccsr theme, but the OpacShowFiltersPulldownMobile and OpacShowLibrariesPulldownMobile depended too much on our masthead.inc modifications, so they only apply to the ccsr theme now. |
| 18:13 | jcamins | fcapovilla: to confirm, the change to opac.css should be in the ccsr theme too, right? |
| 18:14 | fcapovilla | yes |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Yeah, there is -- unfortunately -- no way around that. |
| 18:23 | fcapovilla: the new patch works great. I am going to push it all to my Github, and obsolete the patches on bugzilla so people know to sign off on the branch. | |
| 18:24 | fcapovilla | ok, thank you |
| 18:33 | oleonard | So nengard did you read back about the "!" password? |
| 18:34 | nengard | not yet - but i can :) |
| 18:34 | oleonard | Short answer: You can query for password = "!" |
| 18:34 | nengard | cause it's still doing that? |
| 18:34 | wasn't that a security problem? | |
| 18:35 | jcamins | No, the security problem was hashing the "!" |
| 18:35 | oleonard | No, the problem was that the same value was getting hashed and saved for every patron |
| 18:43 | nengard | thanks all |
| 18:44 | next question | |
| 18:44 | i thought i reported a bug for the suggestions message on the homepage showing the count of all suggestions instead of limited to branch but i can't find it - anyone happen to know where i hid this bug report? | |
| 18:44 | :) | |
| 18:46 | drojf | fcapovilla: how would i make the mobile view appear? there is a link to ccsr in the bug comments, but if i resize the window with that site it does not change anything |
| 18:46 | nengard | bug 8274 |
| 18:46 | found it | |
| 18:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8274 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , count of suggestions on main page wrong |
| 18:48 | jcamins | drojf: you have to resize it to very small. |
| 18:48 | drojf | i resized it to tiny |
| 18:48 | jcamins | Oh, okay. |
| 18:48 | I had trouble with it for a while because I didn't realize just how small a phone screen is. | |
| 18:49 | drojf | yes i thought that were my problem after reading it again, but even if i resize it to a little black and a little grey that does not make a difference |
| 18:49 | we should have free smartphones for testers ;) | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | drojf: http://screencast.com/t/M1ZdBLhco54c |
| 18:50 | (that's my instance, not Sherbrooke) | |
| 18:51 | fcapovilla | Also : Your browser must support viewport media queries :P |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Guess that means it won't work with IE8? |
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| 18:52 | fcapovilla | Are there mobile phones with IE8? |
| 18:52 | jcamins | fcapovilla: I highly doubt it. |
| 18:52 | fcapovilla | We tested it on a windows mobile phone and it worked |
| 18:52 | jcamins | The only version of IE I have is 8. |
| 18:54 | IE8 does not support media queries. :) | |
| 18:55 | drojf | hm maybe my iceweasel doesn't then |
| 18:55 | oleonard | old version drojf? |
| 18:57 | drojf | it says 10.0.6 |
| 18:57 | no idea if that is old, i kind of lost track of numbering of firefox and thunderbird | |
| 18:58 | oleonard | Shouldn't be too old. Why do you think media queries aren't working? |
| 18:58 | drojf | because i can't get the mobile css to appear |
| 18:59 | bug 8597 that is | |
| 18:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8597 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, Needs Signoff , New theme for the OPAC with a mobile view |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Oh, I forgot to obsolete the patches. |
| 19:00 | tcohen | jcamins: touch_all_biblio didn't fix it |
| 19:00 | jcamins | drojf: you know that you need to get the patches from my github repo, and apply 8622 first, right? |
| 19:00 | drojf | jcamins: to see the demo?? |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Oh, no. |
| 19:00 | oleonard | rangi had a test install didn't he? |
| 19:00 | jcamins | I thought you had moved on to testing bug 8597. |
| 19:04 | tcohen | jcamins: a noob question, how should I see if a record is marc8 ? |
| 19:04 | drojf | works alright in konqueror and a standalone firefox i use with tor (10.0.5). maybe some plugin is to blame |
| 19:05 | jcamins | tcohen: unfortunately, usually one has to use a hex editor. |
| 19:05 | tcohen | the thing is I need to find that record |
| 19:06 | jcamins | tcohen: didn't you identify the record? |
| 19:06 | \xC3 is usually from an acute, I think. | |
| 19:06 | tcohen | I have a log that says some record is to blame |
| 19:06 | didn't see anything strnge in it | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | If you open up the record directly in the staff client, are you able to edit it? |
| 19:30 | Does anyone remember that really cool git command for cutting up a commit? | |
| 19:31 | git add -p | |
| 19:32 | oleonard | counter-intuitive. |
| 19:32 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:32 | jcamins | oleonard: you do a reset, then you add it up. |
| 19:33 | In... uhhh... p[arts]? | |
| 19:33 | drojf | morning rangi |
| 19:33 | jcamins: "cut up"? | |
| 19:34 | jcamins | drojf: yeah, I have one commit. |
| 19:34 | Soon I will have two. | |
| 19:34 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 19:34 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 7.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on August 14, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Rising). |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Both of which will be modifying one file. |
| 19:34 | rangi | Lies |
| 19:35 | wajasu | i'm struggling to get holds working. i added circ rule with holds alloed count 2. my prefs are default. any ideas? |
| 19:36 | rangi | Are they on loan? |
| 19:36 | oleonard | wajasu: You have a circ rule set up for default library, default patron, default item type? |
| 19:36 | wajasu | i can't see an option in OPAC for a patron to place a hold. not on loan fresh test install with newly added biblios/items. |
| 19:37 | ALL,ALL | |
| 19:37 | rangi | You might need allowholdonshelf syspref switched then |
| 19:38 | If that's off it only allows one's for items on loan | |
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| 19:40 | wajasu | rangi: Yes. the syspref was needed. |
| 19:41 | rangi | I'm helping! I'm helping! |
| 19:41 | :-) | |
| 19:41 | cait | lol |
| 19:41 | don't know what this is all about, but still :) | |
| 19:42 | wajasu | :) |
| 19:47 | rangi | Ahh Manos welcome to the mad world of library science |
| 19:47 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:47 | rangi | Your logic has no place here |
| 19:48 | libsysguy | rangi did you say we were able to use DBIx::Class? |
| 19:48 | ^^ a long time ago | |
| 19:52 | rangi | I'm not the boss, but I wouldn't reject a patch just cos it did |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | heh |
| 19:52 | rangi | I'd like to see us using the schema first |
| 19:53 | Instead of kohastructure.sql | |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | I'm only one programmer rangi :p |
| 19:53 | I'm not trying to earn jcamins status of re-writing all of koha | |
| 19:53 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | but ill split it with him |
| 19:53 | jcamins | You take the unpleasant bits. |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | jcamins you take searching |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Awww. |
| 19:54 | OKay, fine. | |
| 19:54 | libsysguy | ill take fixing the database structure |
| 19:54 | rangi | That actually takes very little work |
| 19:54 | jcamins | Looks like I got Koha's theme support, too. |
| 19:54 | libsysguy | oleonard you're in charge theming |
| 19:54 | oh apparently not, jcamins called it | |
| 19:54 | rangi what bits do you want :p | |
| 19:54 | jcamins | libsysguy: nah, once the theming works, oleonard gets to redo our themes so they are attractive. :) |
| 19:54 | maximep | im in charge of mobile theming :p |
| 19:55 | rangi | None I'll just tell you you did it wrong |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | ok cool, I expect this done by the end of the week so rangi has time to reject all of our code |
| 19:56 | its like a koha code fire sale | |
| 19:56 | everything must go | |
| 19:56 | :p | |
| 19:56 | rangi | Read my blogpost first :-P |
| 19:56 | libsysguy | yeah yeah i saw it |
| 19:57 | unit tests first | |
| 19:57 | rangi | Or its just compound interest on our technical debt |
| 19:57 | libsysguy | lost your kids, there is a unit test to find them |
| 19:57 | jcamins | libsysguy: also the one on rewriting. |
| 19:58 | libsysguy | and our debt is starting to look like the US treasury :p |
| 19:58 | oh I haven't seen that one | |
| 20:02 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]no-not-like-that/ |
| 20:02 | libsysguy | haha i just looked it up via your twitter |
| 20:03 | cait | libsysguy: what do I get? :) |
| 20:03 | libsysguy | I think its worth noting that catalyst generates unit test files for you when you use the autogenerator for modules :) |
| 20:03 | cait what do you want? | |
| 20:03 | jcamins | cait: the translation system needs some additions. |
| 20:04 | cait | eew |
| 20:04 | oleonard | Hunh, what, did someone say my name? |
| 20:04 | * oleonard | wakes up |
| 20:04 | libsysguy | jcamins: you can't call ->id on a normal result set, it has to be a DBIx::Class object :'( |
| 20:04 | cait | that's too mean, can I get something else? |
| 20:06 | * oleonard | is pretty fond of telling people they did it wrong too |
| 20:06 | rangi | Ok my stop bbiab |
| 20:06 | jcamins | libsysguy: didn't you ask me how to do it with DBIx::Class? |
| 20:06 | (hint: yes) | |
| 20:07 | libsysguy | umm I probably did |
| 20:07 | thinking that ->execute was part of dbix::class | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | Use last_insert_id directly after the insert statement. |
| 20:08 | Sorry, only way to do it. | |
| 20:08 | And, use transactions. | |
| 20:08 | $dbh->begin_work (work) $dbh->commit | |
| 20:09 | libsysguy | might just make this module use dbix class |
| 20:09 | jcamins | I see no reason not to. |
| 20:09 | Use transactions anyway. | |
| 20:10 | libsysguy | is there a better way to design the table so I don't have to do this dance |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 20:10 | libsysguy | well hell |
| 20:10 | lol | |
| 20:12 | i could cheat and do a select to update it again | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | Or you could just use last_insert_id, which is probably the right way to do it. |
| 20:13 | And a transaction. | |
| 20:13 | libsysguy | in conjunction with transaction to avoid a race condition |
| 20:13 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:14 | Plus, we should be using transactions more. | |
| 20:15 | Whenever we have a series of SQL statements that are mutually interdependent, in fact. | |
| 20:15 | libsysguy | agreed |
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| 20:22 | rangi | back |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | jcamins do you know if autocommit is set to true anywhere? |
| 20:23 | jcamins | libsysguy: it is by default. |
| 20:23 | Using begin_work will automatically disable it. | |
| 20:23 | wajasu | testing bug 8215 |
| 20:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Course Reserves |
| 20:24 | jcamins | At least, I think it is set by default. |
| 20:25 | libsysguy | hmm ok |
| 20:25 | ill guess I'll turn it off | |
| 20:26 | this is really feeling like one road block after another | |
| 20:26 | rangi | no, dont turn it off |
| 20:26 | use transactions! | |
| 20:26 | wajasu | i did a perl Makefile.PL, make, make install. Some code was missing for a standard install, I expect some make/install routine copies it so it ends up in cgi-bin/cources-reserves/... |
| 20:26 | libsysguy | rangi that is what i was trying to do |
| 20:27 | rangi | begin_work switches it off for that transaction |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | ahh |
| 20:27 | rangi | you dont need to mess with autocommit |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | ok well that makes sense |
| 20:27 | jcamins | That's what I just said. |
| 20:27 | libsysguy | do I have to use the ->do() function or can I still use prepare and execute |
| 20:28 | sorry jcamins no points for you :p | |
| 20:28 | jcamins | begin_work turns it off. |
| 20:28 | rangi | you can still prepare and execute |
| 20:28 | libsysguy | jk jcamins++ rangi++ |
| 20:29 | wajasu | also when i tried to run it after an install, no table exists for courses (which I think needs to be created). do I need to run some update database after patches that might create tables? or should the webinstaller pop up? i need to know if i should tell the patch writer to add tables creation somehwere or is it my mistake? |
| 20:29 | jcamins | wajasu: when you are testing things, you have to run updatedatabase manually. |
| 20:29 | wajasu | ok. i'm such a newbie. |
| 20:30 | rangi | this is where DBIx::Class::Schema would be handy :) |
| 20:30 | cait | wajasu: your first test was a good one - I sounds like this is a bug in the patch |
| 20:31 | wajasu: the new dirctory for the module needs to get added to a file so that it's copied for standard installations | |
| 20:31 | rangi | wajasu: yep, cait is right |
| 20:31 | cait | wajasu: if you want to run the update database, go into kohaversion.pl file, increase the number of the version there by one - run the webinstaller, it will come up when you go to a page in staff - reset the number it's former value and save |
| 20:32 | then you should be good to go for testing :) | |
| 20:32 | and I would fail qa for the first and note on the bug | |
| 20:32 | perhaps try testing in a dev installation if you want to continue testing, until this is fixed | |
| 20:34 | wajasu | there is a Use of bare << to mean <<"" is deprecated at ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 5318. I see <<<<<<< HEAD in updatedatabase.pl at that line. |
| 20:35 | is that a bad patch too? | |
| 20:35 | rangi | that means it applied with a conflict |
| 20:35 | when you applied it, it should have given you some kinda message about that | |
| 20:35 | if you go git status now | |
| 20:35 | you should see it saying both modified | |
| 20:36 | cait | hm |
| 20:36 | or it's in the patch already | |
| 20:36 | wajasu: do you have the bug number? | |
| 20:36 | and thx for testing :) wajasu++ | |
| 20:36 | wajasu: are you looking at bug 8551 or bug 8215? | |
| 20:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8551 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, pelletiermaxime, NEW , Course reserves |
| 20:37 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add Course Reserves | |
| 20:37 | wajasu | no conflict in git status. i used git am -i -u -3 <thepatch> |
| 20:37 | cait | it's not your fault, it's the patch |
| 20:37 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=11131 | |
| 20:37 | rangi | sounds like the patch is bad |
| 20:37 | that can go straigt to patch does not apply | |
| 20:38 | cait | hm failed qa I would say |
| 20:38 | it does apply, but it's broken in 2 ways | |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Yeah, I'd agree with cait, I think. |
| 20:41 | wajasu | i'm going to list all the ways i can find in the fail. 1) some code is missing for staff interface, 2) conflict in updatedatabase.pl |
| 20:42 | jcamins | wajasu: a useful check for conflict markers and syntax errors is to run `prove t xt` in your kohaclone directory. |
| 20:42 | wajasu | ok |
| 20:43 | cait | wajasu: maybe point out you did a standard install and the files were not created - i think it only happens on standard installs :) |
| 20:43 | which means it's extra cool that you found it | |
| 20:47 | rangi | if it doesnt work in standard chances are would be broken in packages too |
| 20:47 | so good catch | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | drojf: any objections to me squashing two additional spelling corrections into your follow-up on bug 8185 and then asking you to sign off on it? |
| 20:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Plugin for linking records in MARC21 |
| 20:52 | drojf | jcamins: not all |
| 20:52 | err | |
| 20:52 | not at all | |
| 20:53 | * drojf | goes to bed, feels flu-ish |
| 20:53 | rangi | yuck |
| 20:53 | flu sux | |
| 20:53 | drojf | i already slept 4 hours aftwer uni, but so tired |
| 20:53 | g'night, or back soon if i cannot sleep | |
| 20:54 | jcamins | drojf: when you feel like doing something easy tomorrow, you can sign off on bug 8185 again. |
| 20:55 | drojf | cool, will do |
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| 20:58 | rangi | oleonard is a mibbit user now?? |
| 20:58 | oleonard | Stuck in a building with IRC blocked |
| 20:58 | rangi | ahh |
| 20:58 | luddites | |
| 20:58 | :) | |
| 20:59 | oleonard | No IRC, no git. |
| 20:59 | rangi | but all the viruses you want! |
| 20:59 | is that nelsonville? | |
| 20:59 | oleonard | No, Chauncey. On a PC running XP built in 2002 |
| 20:59 | rangi | ahhh nice! |
| 21:00 | oleonard | Filling in for a vacationing co-worker |
| 21:00 | rangi | i think i visted there too, i think stephen took me to all the branches on that first visit |
| 21:00 | in 2003 .. wow, that was a while ago | |
| 21:00 | jcamins | rangi: maybe you used the same computer! |
| 21:00 | I'm trying to figure out how to handle bug 8634. | |
| 21:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8634 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Themes should be user-selectable |
| 21:00 | rangi | heh |
| 21:01 | oleonard | It was probably my computer then |
| 21:01 | jcamins | I've come up with having opacthemes be multi-select like opaclanguages. |
| 21:01 | And adding an OPACDefaultTheme | |
| 21:01 | (and equivalent for intranet) | |
| 21:01 | * oleonard | honestly doesn't like the idea of user-selectable themes |
| 21:01 | jcamins | No? |
| 21:01 | rangi | oleonard: the reason i like it |
| 21:01 | is so you can have the kids opac pc | |
| 21:02 | and the holy crap im blind opac | |
| 21:02 | with super large print | |
| 21:02 | oleonard | Hm... Yeah... |
| 21:04 | jcamins | My feeling is if you don't want your users to have choices, you should should just not give them any. |
| 21:04 | oleonard | rangi do you still have the mobile theme demo up? |
| 21:04 | jcamins | Choose the theme you want them to use, and disable all the others. |
| 21:04 | rangi | i do |
| 21:04 | opac.koha.workbuffer.org | |
| 21:04 | oleonard | Thx |
| 21:04 | rangi | you can just resize your browser window to see what it degrades to |
| 21:04 | its quite nifty | |
| 21:05 | jcamins | But if you make it configurable, it works with kiosks. |
| 21:05 | * oleonard | has been working on a responsive design for the library's web site for the past couple of weeks |
| 21:05 | rangi | ahh cool |
| 21:06 | oleonard | I wonder if you can trigger a state change based on the browser's zoom level |
| 21:06 | jcamins | I think I've ruled out adding a link at the bottom to select the theme. |
| 21:07 | (from the user's side) | |
| 21:07 | oleonard | jcamins: So at least you're thinking of letting the library choose which themes are available |
| 21:07 | jcamins | oleonard: right. Same as languages. |
| 21:07 | fcapovilla | Fun fact: In firefox, zooming the browser will trigger the mobile view. |
| 21:07 | jcamins | Only, not with a theme chooser at the bottom because I think that's unnecessary mess. |
| 21:07 | oleonard | Drupal has it as an option on the user's account jcamins |
| 21:08 | fcapovilla: But not in Chrome. Why? | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | That only works if you are logging all the kiosks in. |
| 21:08 | fcapovilla | oleonard: dunno, it just doesn't work :( |
| 21:08 | * oleonard | pictures patrons coming to the desk and saying "Why does this OPAC look so weird?" |
| 21:09 | oleonard | ..staff going and changing the OPAC theme back to what the patron expects |
| 21:09 | jcamins | If you don't use kiosks, you wouldn't want to provide any options. |
| 21:09 | oleonard | I see, you mean a locked-down config |
| 21:09 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:10 | magnus_away was proposing something like it for suggestions. | |
| 21:11 | oleonard | http://blog.55minutes.com/2012[…]and-browser-zoom/ |
| 21:11 | jcamins: suggestions? | |
| 21:11 | wahanui | suggestions are broken at the moment - I can't accept those for German :( |
| 21:11 | jcamins | My thinking is that the theme selector would be available only on certain themes, so once you switched to kiosk mode, you'd have to delete the cookie. |
| 21:11 | oleonard: like... | |
| 21:12 | bug 8628. | |
| 21:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8628 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, ASSIGNED , Add digital signs to the OPAC |
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| 21:13 | jcamins | At least, that's what it sounded like he was planning on doing. |
| 21:16 | wajasu | yes, i am planning on mentioning the standard install. |
| 21:22 | cait | forget suggestions |
| 21:22 | wahanui | cait: I forgot suggestions |
| 21:27 | cait | bye all |
| 21:27 | oleonard | Bye cait |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Bye. |
| 21:27 | wajasu | ok, should it be failed QA or Patch doesn't apply (course_reserve) |
| 21:27 | jcamins | Failed QA, because the patch applied. |
| 21:27 | oleonard | failed qa |
| 21:27 | wajasu | ok |
| 21:28 | jcamins | (Patch doesn't apply means "I wasn't able to even start testing this") |
| 21:31 | wajasu | jcamins: should i try bug 8185 or should you work that one? |
| 21:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8185 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tajoli, Needs Signoff , Plugin for linking records in MARC21 |
| 21:31 | jcamins | wajasu: I tested it and signed off on it. |
| 21:32 | However, I also needed to adjust the follow-up, so someone else needs to test it to confirm I didn't screw anything up. :) | |
| 21:32 | wajasu | you fast |
| 21:32 | jcamins | wajasu: I started yesterday. |
| 21:33 | wajasu | i have about 8 that i tried this weekend, so i am trying to get some answers on IRC today to move through them |
| 21:33 | * jcamins | likes that strategy. |
| 21:34 | jcamins | BTW, where are you located? I thought you were in NZ, but you ate lunch at the same time I did. |
| 21:34 | wajasu | TX |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | ah same as libsysguy |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Hm. Definitely not NZ. :) |
| 21:35 | wajasu | i signed off on bug 8607 and kf said i can try to followup patch the fine display so I guess I'll look at C4:Letter.pm |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8607 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , overdue_notices is broken |
| 21:36 | wajasu | i'm really happy to have the index-daemon working because its just a 30 second wait in testing with cataloging. :) |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | why wait 30! |
| 21:36 | ;) | |
| 21:36 | I have mine set to 5 lol. | |
| 21:36 | wajasu | :) |
| 21:37 | rangi | hey wizzyrea :) |
| 21:37 | jcamins | I had mine set to 5. |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | oh hi :) |
| 21:37 | jcamins | Then I started switching back and forth between databases, confusing the heck out of Zebra, so I disabled zebraqueue indexing. |
| 21:37 | wizzyrea | ah yea that'd do it |
| 21:38 | wajasu | so to run the prove test stuff, i guess i have to have the memcached modules installed to prevent failing. |
| 21:38 | jcamins | No. |
| 21:38 | Oh, wait, I see what you mean. | |
| 21:38 | Yes, you should have all required modules installed. | |
| 21:39 | wajasu | its no required :) |
| 21:39 | jcamins | Hmmm... |
| 21:39 | You should have optional ones, too, probably. | |
| 21:39 | Especially all the Test::* modules. | |
| 21:43 | wajasu | those last 6 or seven aren't in deb sqeeze repos OR koha-community, so i must CPAN them i guess. |
| 21:44 | jcamins | Which 6 or 7? |
| 21:44 | There are about a half dozen that aren't needed. | |
| 21:44 | Probably those. | |
| 21:44 | rangi | wajasu: can you paste into |
| 21:44 | paste? | |
| 21:44 | wahanui | paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 21:45 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my test environment aug13th 2012 missing modules" (18 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/95 |
| 21:46 | jcamins | Test::MockModule is needed. |
| 21:46 | Wait, no it isn't. | |
| 21:46 | Not yet. | |
| 21:46 | Others are not. | |
| 21:47 | wajasu | i'm grabbing it from cpan unless someone knows of packages somewhere. |
| 21:47 | jcamins | You don't need any of them. |
| 21:47 | My apt repo is currently down for server moving. | |
| 21:48 | wajasu | i haven't needed them. but for prove to work. |
| 21:48 | jcamins | Right. |
| 21:48 | You don't need any of them for prove. | |
| 21:48 | At least, I don't think you do. | |
| 21:49 | The Moose and Data stuff is for solr, which is exempted from the load test. | |
| 21:49 | The CHI stuff is optional. | |
| 21:49 | It falls back to less capable caching. | |
| 21:49 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my test environment aug13th 2012 prove xt" (24 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/96 |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Hmmm... well, you can certainly install CHI from CPAN. |
| 21:50 | I'm not sure why it's doing that... | |
| 21:51 | So, yeah, using CPAN for CHI and CHI::Driver::Memcached is probably easiest. | |
| 21:51 | If my apt repo were available, I'd point you to it, but it's not, and won't be for a few weeks. | |
| 21:52 | wajasu | grabbing CHI .. from cpan |
| 21:54 | i wonder if we can't just have a perl module package that gets built by jenkins and the project just depends on that. maybe for the common architecture cases (x86 x64). and stick it in the PERL5LIB. or is that too complicated. | |
| 21:55 | jcamins | wajasu: there's a bug for that. |
| 21:55 | wajasu | i'm learning there is a bug for everything already. |
| 21:55 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:55 | Yep. | |
| 21:57 | Okay... list of files that does not contain the specified string... any ideas how to get that? | |
| 21:58 | oleonard | See ya #koha |
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| 21:59 | wizzyrea | later people |
| 22:00 | rangi | cya wajasu |
| 22:00 | doh | |
| 22:00 | cya wizzyrea | |
| 22:00 | wajasu | cya |
| 22:00 | jcamins | -L |
| 22:04 | wajasu | when something is "push"ed does that mean its in master? |
| 22:05 | rangi | if it says pushed to master |
| 22:05 | then yep | |
| 22:05 | you can look at the history of a bug | |
| 22:05 | often it will go pushed to master | |
| 22:05 | then pushed to stable | |
| 22:05 | jcamins and I usually note in the comments too | |
| 22:05 | eg | |
| 22:06 | Pushed to 3.8.x will be in 3.8.4 | |
| 22:06 | while paul_p is away, some bug fixes i am pushing to 3.8.x | |
| 22:06 | but leaving the status as passed qa, so paul can push to master when he gets back | |
| 22:06 | but this is an abnormal situation | |
| 22:07 | wajasu | so bug queries that show state Push mean? |
| 22:07 | ready to be considerd for push to stable? | |
| 22:08 | rangi | it means that the column is too small |
| 22:08 | and it really says pushed to stable or pushed to master | |
| 22:08 | if you click on one, you'll see :) | |
| 22:10 | pastebot | "wajasu" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my test environment aug13th 2012part2 prove xt" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/97 |
| 22:10 | wajasu | Ahh |
| 22:10 | jcamins | Oh, missing Cache::Memcached::Fast. |
| 22:11 | Apparently not in the same package as Cache::Memcached. | |
| 22:12 | Wait.. mystery solved. | |
| 22:12 | Cache::Memcached was never listed as required. | |
| 22:12 | Even though it was. | |
| 22:12 | *Optional, rather | |
| 22:12 | wajasu | grabbed it.running prove xt ... |
| 22:13 | jcamins | No bug for that. |
| 22:15 | wajasu | Can't locate Test/YAML/Valid.pm |
| 22:17 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 22:17 | That's not listed either, is it? | |
| 22:17 | wajasu | grabbed it. now running prove t xt ... |
| 22:17 | jcamins | This is excellent. |
| 22:18 | wajasu | All tests successful |
| 22:19 | jcamins | Excellent. |
| 22:19 | wajasu | maybe you can add that bug, to request those. unless you have another process for master. or should i add it. |
| 22:20 | jcamins | I just added the bug and patched it. |
| 22:20 | Bug 8636. | |
| 22:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer |
| 22:20 | jcamins | As I said. |
| 22:20 | Excellent. :) | |
| 22:20 | wajasu | you fast |
| 22:20 | so what is prove? perl test framework? or koha specific? | |
| 22:20 | jcamins | I do my best. :) |
| 22:20 | Yeah, perl test framework. | |
| 22:22 | wajasu | have you aver used a fitnesse based test environment? koha really could use it. because non programmers can write tests, and patches would have to pass tests to get submitted. |
| 22:23 | it worked well in an airline app. add biblio, add authority, etc, place hold, are described via a web app, and tests saved in a directory, and checked in. it was simple. | |
| 22:24 | then when folks change koha, they must past tests to see if they broke existing functionaility. | |
| 22:24 | rangi | that would rule |
| 22:25 | wajasu | http://fitnesse.org/FrontPage.FitServers.PerL |
| 22:25 | you can right tests for use cases. | |
| 22:25 | rangi | cool |
| 22:26 | wajasu | if you want, i'll try to set it up. and expose you to my test environment. and write a patch. |
| 22:26 | rangi | that would be fantastic |
| 22:27 | and if you can show it to a few non devs and see what they think, if they like it we can make it official | |
| 22:27 | it has a plugin for jenkins too | |
| 22:27 | wajasu | it works well. when you have lots of side effects. someone works on aquisitions, and breaks authorities would show up. |
| 22:27 | rangi | https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/di[…]S/Fitnesse+Plugin |
| 22:27 | wajasu | yup |
| 22:28 | rangi | so tests people write can just get added to our jenkins test suite |
| 22:28 | wajasu | you can right tests and use fixtures (or custom ones) to make writing tests easier. |
| 22:28 | rangi | if you made writing tests easier, i will beer you many beverages at kohacon next year |
| 22:29 | wajasu | you can group them (slow ones), integration ones, multithreaded ones, |
| 22:29 | rangi | sweet |
| 22:29 | * jcamins | too. |
| 22:29 | wajasu | ok. i'' play with it tonight and expose it to you tomorrow on the web against my test VM. |
| 22:30 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 22:30 | wajasu++ | |
| 22:30 | rangi | sweet thank you |
| 22:30 | wajasu | before you know it you will have thousands of cases. and refactoring won't be as intimidating. |
| 22:32 | jcamins | From your mouth to the ears of a hundred thousand librarians. |
| 22:32 | The problem is the whole web-based nature, I think. | |
| 22:34 | wajasu | i uses this in a distributed java thick client, that supported what if scenarios, for rerouting flights. you can imagine the interactions with FAA rules engines. |
| 22:34 | it will help with circulation rules | |
| 22:35 | jcamins | That would be *awesome*. |
| 22:35 | You know, maybe we need a prog2 theme. | |
| 22:36 | Absolute barebones. | |
| 22:36 | Access a bib record and nothing but the bib record shows up. | |
| 22:36 | etc. | |
| 22:36 | Then test against that. | |
| 22:37 | wajasu | you will ike this. its fast, and spits out helpful context to debug. |
| 22:37 | jcamins | :) |
| 22:37 | wajasu | i'm grabbing dinner, then will work on it. |
| 22:37 | * jcamins | calls it a day and goes to lay out dinner. |
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