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| 00:21 | Space_Librarian | o/ |
| 00:21 | rangi | hi Space_Librarian |
| 00:23 | Space_Librarian | howdy stranger |
| 00:49 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #121: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/121/ |
| 00:49 | * jcamins: Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client | |
| 00:49 | * dcook: Bug 8455 - Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences | |
| 00:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
| 00:49 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8455 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences | |
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| 02:01 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 02:03 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 02:03 | Brooke | o/ |
| 02:03 | friday? | |
| 02:03 | wahanui | i think friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
| 02:04 | mtompset | Who is teaching wahanui Rebecca Black? |
| 02:04 | Who? | |
| 02:05 | Brooke | >.> |
| 02:05 | <.< | |
| 02:05 | * Brooke | points to gmcharlt. |
| 02:05 | mtompset | Why don't I believe you? :) |
| 02:06 | Greetings, Brooke | |
| 02:06 | Brooke | how |
| 02:06 | s it? | |
| 02:08 | mtompset | I'll probably attempt a packages install of koha later today. |
| 02:08 | Brooke | :) |
| 02:09 | mtompset | I'm familiar with the tarball method. I have done a git install. Need to do a packages install to make sure I understand all three methods. |
| 02:09 | Brooke | is debian your OS? |
| 02:09 | mtompset | No, Ubuntu. |
| 02:10 | Chosen for organizational reasons. | |
| 02:10 | More Ubuntu support in our organization than Debian. | |
| 02:11 | * Brooke | nods. |
| 02:12 | Space_Librarian | Ave! :) |
| 02:13 | mtompset | Greetings, Space_Librarian |
| 02:13 | which space? | |
| 02:13 | bug 8517 | |
| 02:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8517 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Script to automatically generate package lists |
| 02:13 | Space_Librarian | mtompset, it's a long story. |
| 02:13 | Brooke | Salve quid agis? |
| 02:15 | Space_Librarian | Eadem fabula... |
| 02:17 | * Brooke | settles in. |
| 02:18 | mtompset | Now have the conversation in Klingon. ;) |
| 02:19 | ibeardslee | Brooke: been watching the fencing? |
| 02:22 | mtompset | Greetings, ibeardslee |
| 02:27 | Brooke | they do not show the freggin fencing over here >:( |
| 02:27 | I've been following the scores, though | |
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| 02:31 | ala_3v0 | I'm trying to add attributes and identifiers. |
| 02:32 | can that be restricted to certain staffs | |
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| 02:35 | Brooke | o/ |
| 02:35 | jransom | hola |
| 02:35 | wahanui | privet, jransom |
| 02:35 | jransom | what does privet mean wahanui? |
| 02:35 | Wahanui what does provet mean? | |
| 02:35 | wahanui | jransom: bugger all, i dunno |
| 02:36 | jransom | lol |
| 02:36 | Space_Librarian | lol |
| 02:36 | jransom | just as ai thought |
| 02:36 | Space_Librarian | Who has been teaching wahanui about weeds? |
| 02:36 | Brooke | roflmao |
| 02:36 | jransom | privet .... |
| 02:37 | some pom I bet | |
| 02:37 | rangi | its russian |
| 02:37 | means hello | |
| 02:37 | jransom | well there you go! |
| 02:38 | Space_Librarian | yet, it's not in google's top 25 results. :p lol |
| 02:38 | ala_3v0 | can attributes and identifiers be restricted to certain staffs? |
| 02:38 | jransom | oh well it can't exist then |
| 02:39 | Space_Librarian | no, because Google knows all. *rolls eyes* |
| 03:00 | mtompset | Actually, if you thought it was a foreign language, http://translate.google.com/ would be a better place to start. |
| 03:03 | Though, why wasn't it cyrillic? Привет | |
| 03:03 | translate google failed to recognize romanized transliterations. | |
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| 03:19 | Brooke | o/ |
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| 03:37 | Shane-S | Anyone around that would know where the OPAC search box code can be found it's size in the element "style" tag so I can't affect it via CSS |
| 03:42 | mtj | Shane-S: opac.css is a great place to start... |
| 03:43 | Space_Librarian | toodle pip all - have a lovely weekend. :) |
| 03:56 | Shane-S | mtj: I found it, it is hard coded in masthead.inc |
| 03:57 | I took the size % out and put in #transl1{} in my CSS file to allow me to alter it. | |
| 03:57 | I will write myself a note to consider submitting a patch at some point | |
| 03:58 | mtj | cool, yeah - the plan is for every element to have a 'id' value |
| 03:59 | could be a nice toy-project to identify which elements are missing id's | |
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| 04:00 | mtj | ... and perhaps, script a way to generate id's for them |
| 04:05 | Shane-S | it has an ID, but it was hard coded in the element's style="" tag, which is the top level or I should say it over rides the style sheet |
| 04:06 | * mtompset | likes the sounds of this conversation, because it implies that a newer version of Koha will be better CSS-able. :) |
| 04:09 | Shane-S | well I am off to bed, hopefully I will have time to patch some CSS stuff |
| 04:09 | mtj | Shane-S: yeah, thats a no-no, thats waiting to be fixed |
| 04:10 | ... and a script looking for hardcoded 'style' elements, would be revealing too | |
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| 04:11 | cait | hi #koha |
| 04:14 | mtj | heya cait |
| 04:14 | cait | hi mtj :) |
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| 05:18 | sdawa | hi |
| 05:18 | i am library assistant from Bhutan | |
| 05:19 | here to seek help and support | |
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| 05:27 | francharb | Good morning #Koha |
| 05:40 | mtompset | Greetings, cait, mtj, and francharb. |
| 05:40 | cait | hi mtompset |
| 05:40 | francharb | hello mtompset |
| 05:41 | mtompset | So no one was able to respond to sdawa? |
| 05:42 | cait | was too slow |
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| 06:27 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:27 | mtompset | Greetings, mbalmer and magnuse |
| 06:28 | mbalmer | morning |
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| 06:33 | cait | hi magnuse and mbalmer :) |
| 06:33 | lots of m* here... my autocomplete fails more and more :) | |
| 06:39 | magnuse | sorry about that ;-) |
| 06:43 | cait | hee |
| 06:43 | silly | |
| 06:43 | :) | |
| 06:43 | testing awesome bug 8209 | |
| 06:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 06:43 | emagnus | yay |
| 06:47 | cait | ok, bbl :) |
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| 07:00 | mtompset | mtj makes me have to type mtj. It's horrible the lack of autocomplete. :) |
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| 07:12 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
| 07:12 | magnuse | bonjour |
| 07:25 | huh, why am i getting logs of circ events in per-day log files in /tmp after i turned on memcached? | |
| 07:26 | and why am i not seeing any effect of <template_cache_dir>/tmp/koha/sksk</template_cache_dir>? | |
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| 07:31 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 07:36 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:36 | last day before holiday? | |
| 07:37 | paul_p | hi magnuse. Yep, last day before vacations :D :D |
| 07:37 | magnuse | woohoo :-) |
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| 08:37 | mtompset | How many hours till you "escape"? ;) |
| 08:41 | magnuse | hehe, that always cracks me up |
| 08:41 | mikromarc is a norwegian proprietary ils :-) | |
| 08:41 | eythian | why are they sending stuff to/about Koha? |
| 08:42 | magnuse | well they have a http://paper.li/ thing that picks up stuff from/about koha on twitter :-) |
| 08:43 | eythian: any idea why i'm getting logs of circ events in per-day log files in /tmp after i turned on memcached? the filenames look like koha_esme_2012-08-03.log, so they reflect the names of the koha instances i have created with the packages | |
| 08:44 | eythian | magnuse: I've seen that (I think even without memcached, I think.) Don;t know what causes it though. |
| 08:45 | magnuse | hm, interesting |
| 08:45 | wahanui | i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 08:45 | magnuse | sure wahanui |
| 08:46 | yeah, might be independent of memcached, it just started happening at about the same time i turned memcahed on | |
| 08:48 | eythian | logs in /tmp is a terrible idea anyway. |
| 08:52 | magnuse | yeah |
| 08:53 | and a quick check seems to indicate that the info in the files is not available in the log viewer in the staff client | |
| 08:53 | eythian | magnuse: I think it's fine-related |
| 08:53 | the header is: cardnumber categorycode surname firstname email phone address citystate itemnumber barcode date_due type days_overdue fine | |
| 08:54 | magnuse | ah yes, that could be |
| 08:54 | hm, i somehow got the impression it was stuff being returned | |
| 08:54 | but a log of fines/overdues makes total sense | |
| 08:59 | /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/fines.pl seems to be the culprit | |
| 08:59 | paul_p | mtompset = 6 hours before escaping ;-) |
| 09:00 | for now, trying to do something that will please jenkins !! | |
| 09:05 | magnuse | yay |
| 09:06 | eythian | magnuse: how does it work out the instance name? |
| 09:06 | suppose it could be the database name or something... | |
| 09:07 | magnuse | eythian: yup: my $name = C4::Context->config('database'); |
| 09:08 | and i don't think it had anything to do with memcached | |
| 09:09 | i think i had fines.pl commented out in /etc/cron.daily/koha-common but that got overwritten when i upgraded to 3.8.3 | |
| 09:09 | and the reason i was just seeing a couple of days worth of log files is that i rebooted the server a couple days ago | |
| 09:09 | eythian | ah right |
| 09:09 | makes sense | |
| 09:09 | magnuse | mystery solved :-) |
| 09:10 | but fines should probably write to something like /var/spool/koha ? | |
| 09:11 | eythian | it's a log, if it wants to be logging it should go in /var/log/koha/_instancename_ |
| 09:11 | having a logbase in koha-conf.xml or some such would help that. | |
| 09:11 | magnuse | there is an --out option to fines.pl, so we could set that when the packages set up the cronjobs, perhaps |
| 09:11 | eythian | that's a good idea |
| 09:12 | magnuse | without --out, the location is determined by File::Spec->tmpdir |
| 09:14 | eythian | OK. Sounds like --out is what we need then. The catch is that the cronjob doesn't know the instancename it's working on :) |
| 09:14 | however, having koha-foreach do a search-replace on the command line may be a good idea anyway | |
| 09:14 | magnuse | yeah, that would be very cool! (and useful) |
| 09:19 | eythian: i can report bugs for this, if you don't mind? | |
| 09:19 | eythian | go for it |
| 09:19 | magnuse | want to be the assignee? i won't have time to look at it for a while |
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| 09:23 | eythian | Just leave it as default |
| 09:23 | It'll get looked at some time in the next few years perhaps ;) | |
| 09:24 | magnuse | hehe |
| 09:24 | i was hoping to lure you into a commitment here ;-) | |
| 09:25 | bug 8566 | |
| 09:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8566 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Enable koha-foreach to insert the instancename into commands |
| 09:28 | eythian | anyone good at CSS, I want to change an attribute on a span with class name "weight" inside a div with class "results_summary" ... how can I specify that> |
| 09:28 | ? | |
| 09:29 | (and why do people call things dumb names like "weight" that could well be duplicated elsewhere) | |
| 09:30 | magnuse | isn't that just ".results_summary .weight {}"? |
| 09:31 | eythian | maybe, that's why I'm asking :) |
| 09:32 | div.results_summary span.weight { | |
| 09:32 | display: none; | |
| 09:32 | } | |
| 09:32 | that's what I wanted :) | |
| 09:33 | (I think exactly the same as what you said really) | |
| 09:33 | magnuse | ah, it's for the tag cloud? |
| 09:33 | yeah, you are being a little more specific than me | |
| 09:33 | eythian | no, it's displaying the weight number in the search results |
| 09:33 | magnuse | oh, ok |
| 09:33 | eythian | and the weight number is confusing because it's not really meaningful |
| 09:33 | (unless you know what weight is etc. | |
| 09:33 | ) | |
| 09:34 | everyone expects it to be the number of results you get if you click the tag, which it isn't. | |
| 09:35 | magnuse | bug 8567 |
| 09:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Set output directory for fines.pl in cron config created by the packages |
| 09:48 | paul_p | there should be only 1 remaining jenkins complain, see bug 6448 |
| 09:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support |
| 09:50 | eythian | Anyone had Koha 3.8.3 behaving strange with diacritics/smart quotes? |
| 09:50 | it's doing that double-enconding thing sometimes. | |
| 09:52 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #800 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 29 days ago) |
| 09:53 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8385: Dirty patch to make tt_valid.t happy <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11b961c19fe534306> |
| 10:20 | magnuse | eythian: what strange behaviour are you seeing? |
| 10:22 | eythian | http://imgur.com/2duaq <-- magnuse, this |
| 10:23 | it's correct in the database | |
| 10:25 | magnuse | ah |
| 10:26 | i have not seen it, but i have not looked for it either... | |
| 10:27 | is it only on the detail display, or in result lists too? | |
| 10:28 | eythian | results too |
| 10:29 | It's the second person who's reported this | |
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| 10:35 | magnuse | eythian: a couple of searches for common norwegian words with "norwegian" letters in them does not reveal any problems, but it might be better hidden... |
| 10:35 | eythian | hmm |
| 10:35 | I wonder why it's showing up for us then... | |
| 10:52 | mtompset | double encoding thing? |
| 10:53 | Nasty. | |
| 10:53 | I wonder what SELECT variables LIKE "%colla%"; looks like. | |
| 10:53 | And what SELECT variables LIKE "%char%"; looks like. | |
| 10:56 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #800: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/800/ |
| 10:56 | jonathan.druart: Bug 8385: Dirty patch to make tt_valid.t happy | |
| 10:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , searchengine/solr/indexes.tt fails 'prove ./xt/tt_valid.t' test |
| 11:12 | kf | encoding problems on a friday afternoon? |
| 11:14 | jcamins | o/ |
| 11:14 | kf: glad to see you approved of bug 8209. | |
| 11:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
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| 11:18 | mtompset | Greetings, jcamins. |
| 11:18 | Tonight's challenge... a package install under Ubuntu. :) | |
| 11:19 | packages? | |
| 11:19 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 11:21 | mtompset | There... fixed it to redirect properly. |
| 11:21 | double redirections don't work. | |
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| 11:29 | kf | jcamins: I did :) |
| 11:29 | jcamins: do you approve of my notes and test plan? | |
| 11:31 | jcamins | I do. :) |
| 11:38 | mtompset | Is there a way to WWW::Mechanize the test plan? ;) |
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| 11:40 | mtompset | Greetings, nengard. |
| 11:41 | Do you come with catalogers? :) | |
| 11:41 | kf | mtompset: hm maybe, but jcamins dev comes with unit tests too :) |
| 11:42 | nengard | hello all |
| 11:42 | nope, i'm done training | |
| 11:42 | it's just me | |
| 11:42 | mtompset | Did you get my message from the other day about Appendix G? |
| 11:47 | Which reminds me... I need to fix another double redirection. | |
| 11:50 | or two... | |
| 11:51 | There... Koha 3.2 and 3.4 now redirect to 3.8 | |
| 11:53 | nengard | mtompset I don't think I did ? was it here? or email? I didn't check my email yet :) |
| 11:54 | mtompset | I apologize... it was FB. |
| 11:55 | My brain wasn't working that day. Forgot to look for a koha-docs mailing list, or your email on bug reports or other messages in other groups. | |
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| 12:12 | * mtompset | grins. |
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| 12:20 | mtompset | I'm hoping this package install goes well... I already fear there are gaps in the wiki page. |
| 12:24 | eythian | mtompset: that's not valid SQL, so it looks like an error :) |
| 12:24 | mtompset: at the moment, the packages wiki page is more a reference than a guide. | |
| 12:24 | mtompset | what's the difference between apache2-mpm-worker and apache2-mpm-itk? |
| 12:24 | eythian | mtompset: itk allows for processes to change their user id |
| 12:24 | mtompset | Well, if I have problems... I'm going to flush it out. |
| 12:25 | (add to it) | |
| 12:27 | what do you mean it isn't valid SQL. | |
| 12:27 | It's valid MySQL. | |
| 12:27 | OOPS... | |
| 12:27 | eythian | > SELECT variables LIKE "%colla%"; |
| 12:27 | mtompset | SHOW |
| 12:27 | eythian | ERROR 1054 (42S22): Unknown column 'variables' in 'field list' |
| 12:27 | :) | |
| 12:27 | mtompset | not SELECT. |
| 12:28 | eythian | oh ah |
| 12:28 | | collation_connection | latin1_swedish_ci | | |
| 12:28 | | collation_database | latin1_swedish_ci | | |
| 12:28 | | collation_server | latin1_swedish_ci | | |
| 12:28 | how odd | |
| 12:28 | mtompset | That's wrong! |
| 12:28 | eythian | yeah, I have a lot of latin1 in there |
| 12:28 | I wonder what's changed... | |
| 12:28 | mtompset | the my.cnf |
| 12:29 | That's where I'd go first. | |
| 12:31 | eythian | nothing obvious in there |
| 12:31 | my tables are all CHARSET=utf8 however. | |
| 12:31 | mtompset | Oh... that's the other thing... |
| 12:32 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]a_on_Ubuntu#MySQL | |
| 12:32 | That's why I wrote that messy long section. | |
| 12:33 | The client-handshake... | |
| 12:33 | totally messes up the collation. | |
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| 12:40 | mtompset | When I do a tarball install... I know where the files are. |
| 12:40 | When I do a git install... I know where the files are... | |
| 12:40 | (both are similar... a directory name I choose) | |
| 12:40 | eythian | hmm, setting the client details doesn't work on my setup (and I can't modify the server details) |
| 12:41 | * mtompset | shrugs, "That's Debian for ya." |
| 12:41 | grins. | |
| 12:42 | eythian | no, it's because I'm not a DBA so don't have access to our database server :) |
| 12:42 | mtompset | Ah... the mysql server is on a different machine? |
| 12:43 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:43 | well, in production, not in my test env | |
| 12:43 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 12:43 | mtompset | Sorry I can't help more. |
| 12:44 | So... back to my long question... where are the files after an apt-get install koha-common? | |
| 12:45 | eythian | it varies |
| 12:45 | mtompset | I'm assuming the koha-common has no perl Makefile.PL step? |
| 12:45 | eythian | but mostly under /usr/share/koha |
| 12:45 | it does, when the packages are built | |
| 12:45 | dpkg -L koha-common will give you all the details | |
| 12:45 | mtompset | Okay, that may come in handy. |
| 12:47 | So, does an upgrade simply become a matter of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade for future installs? | |
| 12:47 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:47 | mtompset | Or is there still a build step? |
| 12:48 | eythian | no |
| 12:48 | build all happens when the packages are created | |
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| 12:48 | mtompset | Ooooh! configuration step of package does the build. |
| 12:50 | eythian | what do you mean by builld. because I think it's different to what I mean |
| 12:50 | mtompset | perl Makefile.PL; make; make test; sudo make install |
| 12:51 | eythian | yeah, that happens on my machine, not on yours |
| 12:51 | mtompset | So, this install won't have any directory from which to build. |
| 12:52 | Because it is pre-built. | |
| 12:52 | eythian | right |
| 12:52 | like all packages | |
| 12:54 | mtompset | which is why you need to edit the koha-sites.conf, because the pre-built version reads that to set things up. |
| 12:54 | eythian | yeah, sorta. One of these days I'm going to have it ask questions on installation to pre-populate that. |
| 12:55 | mtompset | That would be a good enhancement. |
| 12:57 | since koha-common comes from k-c.org, if I disable that repo, I could do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade without actually triggering a koha upgrade, correct? | |
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| 12:59 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:59 | although, it's better to pin it | |
| 13:00 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:00 | * oleonard | waves |
| 13:01 | mtompset | pin it? |
| 13:02 | magnuse | hm, on 3.8.3 when memcached is activated it's supposed to re-read koha-con.xml every 10 minutes or something, right? |
| 13:02 | *koha-conf.xml | |
| 13:03 | eythian | http://www.debian.org/doc/manu[…]kg_basics.en.html <-- mtompset, 7.12. I use the first method |
| 13:03 | (also, I think pinning is the wrong term actually) | |
| 13:05 | mtompset | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto the Apt/Dpkg method is a different syntax to what you linked to, but the same thing generally. |
| 13:06 | eythian | pinning is more about picking newer versions of things from one repo without taking everything |
| 13:06 | fixed the double encoding problem | |
| 13:06 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:07 | eythian | turns out to be actual bad data from a strange earlier incarnation of the database |
| 13:07 | (that I'd fixed, but that caused the encoding to get confused) | |
| 13:07 | mtompset | so it's your own fault? ;) |
| 13:07 | eythian | Sorta :) |
| 13:08 | mtompset | NOOOOOO! Not triggers for man-db! |
| 13:08 | I really dislike that... So slow. :) | |
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| 13:09 | mtompset | Good day, tcohen. |
| 13:09 | tcohen | hi mtompset |
| 13:12 | mtompset | I'm tinkering with a koha-common install. What are you up to today? |
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| 13:20 | mtompset | Interesting... the koha-common didn't force a kernel upgrade on me. :) |
| 13:21 | eythian | ...why would it? |
| 13:21 | mtompset | because the tarball did? |
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| 13:22 | eythian | what? |
| 13:22 | how would the tarball do that? | |
| 13:22 | mtompset | I haven't tried to figure out why, but it does. |
| 13:23 | eythian | but it can't |
| 13:23 | the tarball doesn't even know what apt or a kernel is | |
| 13:23 | mtompset | dselect may. |
| 13:24 | when you do the build from the tarball, it triggers some package somewhere that triggers a kernel upgrade. | |
| 13:24 | take a look at install_misc/ubuntu.12.04.packages | |
| 13:25 | that may give you clues why. I haven't had time to make sense of it. | |
| 13:25 | eythian | Well, if you have apt stuff happening, and a kernel update is available I could see it prompting you. |
| 13:25 | mtompset | right. |
| 13:25 | eythian | But I can't see it forcing the kernel devs to sit down and make a new one for you just to install koha with :) |
| 13:26 | mtompset | But seeing as the kernel is NOT listed in the install set, I don't know what it triggering it to show up in the list of things to install. |
| 13:26 | what IS triggering. | |
| 13:29 | eythian | Well, presumably part of the process triggers an apt update |
| 13:29 | and trhen when it makes everything installed, it does updates at the same time | |
| 13:32 | mtompset | yes, but if I apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... the kernel is typically held back. |
| 13:33 | eythian | hmm, I've not noticed that |
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| 13:36 | mtompset | At least under Ubuntu. |
| 13:37 | Anyways... okay, I'm a little stuck now. | |
| 13:37 | I've got the koha-common installed | |
| 13:37 | I edit'd the file with .localdomain as suggested. | |
| 13:37 | I now have a DB which I want to use. | |
| 13:38 | From our existing system. | |
| 13:38 | eythian | I recommend not doing that |
| 13:38 | mtompset | oh? |
| 13:38 | eythian | or, setting everything up and having the packages set up the db then importing the content into it |
| 13:38 | mtompset | Then how would I get the data in? |
| 13:38 | eythian | just import the dump, I mean |
| 13:38 | it's pretty easy | |
| 13:39 | mtompset | how does that relate to the default.sql.gz? |
| 13:39 | eythian | default.sql.gz is intended if you have a template you like to include on all your initial instances. |
| 13:39 | mtompset | Ah. |
| 13:40 | Initial dummy data. | |
| 13:40 | eythian | yeah |
| 13:41 | mtompset | Okay... so then I shouldn't have a default.sql.gz... okay |
| 13:41 | eythian | yeah, just if you want it |
| 13:41 | mtompset | empty string, or delete line? |
| 13:42 | eythian | either works, probably delete line |
| 13:44 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 13:44 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #20: "<wizzyrea> you will see no wedgie-ing from me" (added by jdavidb at 03:50 PM, July 31, 2009) |
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| 13:44 | kf | @quote random |
| 13:44 | huginn | kf: Quote #118: "wizzyrea: lavamind is erupting patches all over us!" (added by druthb at 09:39 PM, January 25, 2011) |
| 13:44 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 13:44 | kf | @quote random |
| 13:44 | huginn | kf: Quote #37: "< nelsonf> I'm pretty sure I deleted this one in the name of being thorough..." (added by chris at 11:27 PM, October 04, 2009) |
| 13:45 | mtompset | Do I even know an instance name before I run koha-create? |
| 13:45 | or does instance name = db name? | |
| 13:46 | eythian | mtompset: instance name is the name of your library, or whatever |
| 13:46 | mtompset | it has no relation to the dbname? |
| 13:48 | eythian | it does, in the sense that the dbname is derived from it |
| 13:50 | mtompset | unless otherwise specified in the /etc/koha/passwd file? |
| 13:51 | eythian | yeah, I think. I've never used that file. |
| 13:51 | mtompset | Well, it seems like a good time to test it then. ;) |
| 13:51 | eythian | It needs to be a bit less prominent, that mention of the passwd file. It's not really used most of the time. |
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| 13:53 | mtompset | But most of the time, you are starting from scratch. |
| 13:53 | Importing MARC data. | |
| 13:53 | Or doing data entry. | |
| 13:56 | I've got a 3.6.3 db that I want to import. | |
| 13:56 | I noticed the page doesn't specify the instance name for the koha-create. Will koha-create prompt for one? | |
| 13:57 | jcamins | mtompset: no, you have to choose one. |
| 13:57 | eythian | mtompset: you make one up |
| 13:58 | mtompset: also, just import the db dump after you've set things up. It'll ensure everything is nice and consistent. | |
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| 13:58 | jcamins | Ooh. |
| 13:59 | joubu++ # I didn't realize you could prevent links from causing the page to scroll to the top | |
| 13:59 | mtompset | So run the koha-create before I even try to get the DB in... okay. |
| 13:59 | Here goes nothing. | |
| 14:00 | oleonard | jcamins: See also http://css-tricks.com/return-f[…]-prevent-default/ if you want to go deeper |
| 14:02 | jcamins | Interesting. |
| 14:02 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 14:03 | jcamins | wahanui: good, this time. |
| 14:03 | wahanui | jcamins: i'm not following you... |
| 14:05 | mtompset | koha-create didn't catch that I had an extra parameter. DOH! |
| 14:06 | jcamins | mtompset: why did you have an extra parameter? |
| 14:06 | mtompset | because I wanted to match the user name, db name, and password to the exist DB that I have. |
| 14:06 | eythian | mtompset: you can't do that like that |
| 14:07 | koha-create doesn't understand extra paremeters | |
| 14:08 | mtompset | Hmmm... man page says --database is a valid parameter. |
| 14:09 | eythian | oh right, I forgot about those. |
| 14:09 | I was imagining that you just chucked them on to the end | |
| 14:09 | mtompset | that's what I did the first time. |
| 14:10 | eythian | (as in, without option names) |
| 14:10 | hwoever, --database should work I think | |
| 14:10 | mtompset | so then I did a koha-remove <first item> |
| 14:10 | jcamins | --database is valid, but I don't see any way to specify username/password. |
| 14:10 | mtompset | passwdfile |
| 14:10 | jcamins | Yes, but not on the command line. |
| 14:11 | eythian | jcamins: with --passwdfile |
| 14:11 | mtompset | koha-create doesn't recognize --database even though the man page has it. |
| 14:11 | jcamins | eythian: that still requires a file. You can't just add extra parameters. |
| 14:11 | eythian | oh, yeah. |
| 14:11 | mtompset | Yes, but I created the file. |
| 14:12 | I'm assuming it is the format mentioned on the wiki page. | |
| 14:12 | * magnuse | wanders off into the deep woods |
| 14:12 | jcamins | Oh, that should work fine, then. I use a koha.passwd file. |
| 14:12 | mtompset | dropped the --database, koha-create worked. |
| 14:13 | Let's see what it did... | |
| 14:14 | Nope... not what I expected... | |
| 14:16 | jcamins | A) what were you expecting, and B) what did it do? |
| 14:16 | (warning: the issue is probably with A) | |
| 14:16 | mtompset | I was it expect it to read the passwd file for the information. |
| 14:17 | jcamins | Okay, that's a reasonable expectation. |
| 14:17 | That's how it works for me. | |
| 14:17 | mtompset | It didn't. |
| 14:17 | jcamins | What did it do? |
| 14:17 | mtompset | created it like I told it nothing. |
| 14:18 | and now I have a user I can't delete. | |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Hey, the passwd file allows you to specify a database, too. I forgot about that because I don't use it. |
| 14:18 | mtompset | Yes, I filled it out, and it didn't work as I expected. |
| 14:19 | I suppose I really like tarballs right about now. :) | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Why can't you delete the user? |
| 14:20 | mtompset | it says it's logged in. |
| 14:20 | eythian | I still think you're better off just loading a db dump into the database. |
| 14:20 | mtompset | But then the password won't match. |
| 14:20 | jcamins | I would agree with eythian. |
| 14:20 | eythian | sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop will stop its processes |
| 14:20 | mtompset: it makes a password | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | mtompset: what do you mean? koha-create creates the password. |
| 14:21 | Which will be random, as it should be. | |
| 14:21 | mtompset | It won't match the db dump's password. |
| 14:21 | eythian | db dumps don't have passwords |
| 14:21 | mtompset | they do if they are just a dump of every DB. |
| 14:21 | (hence mysql, etc.) | |
| 14:21 | eythian | then don't do that. |
| 14:21 | just dump the koha db you want | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | mtompset: I'm not sure what you're doing, but that's not the right way to do it. |
| 14:22 | If you are transferring Koha, just use the DB. | |
| 14:22 | mtompset | jcamins, I figured that much out. |
| 14:22 | jcamins | If you are trying to clone an entire system, you should just use some sort of system imaging software. |
| 14:22 | mtompset | Not trying to clone. |
| 14:22 | Trying to take data from production tarball install... | |
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| 14:22 | mtompset | and get it into a koha-common install. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Right, that's very easy. |
| 14:23 | mtompset | I'm failing. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | mysqldump kohadb > file.sql |
| 14:23 | mtompset | It must not be easy. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | koha-create --create-db mylibrary |
| 14:23 | mtompset | Yes... I'll have to limit my dump. |
| 14:23 | jcamins | Import file.sql into koha_mylibrary. |
| 14:23 | mtompset | -- that came out wrong. |
| 14:24 | jcamins | Other than a full backup, I don't think there is any reason to dump all your databases, including mysql. |
| 14:24 | It makes you expect that other settings are going to be exactly the same. | |
| 14:25 | mtompset | And clearly I can't expect. |
| 14:25 | So... off to trim mysqldump to just one DB. | |
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| 14:26 | jcamins | Right. If nothing else, crontabs will be different. As we saw on the mailing list, this can cause no end of confusion when you try to "fix" it. |
| 14:28 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:29 | mtompset | This is why I'm trying a packages install. |
| 14:30 | I want to understand the differences in install types. | |
| 14:31 | I will also help me tweak the Koha on Ubuntu wiki page to better reflect problems. And to warn people, "Don't follow this if you are doing a packages install!" | |
| 14:33 | the packages install leaves the koha instance database empty until you do a web install? | |
| 14:33 | eythian | yeah |
| 14:33 | it has to | |
| 14:33 | jcamins | mtompset: yes, same as the tarball. |
| 14:33 | eythian | (unless you provide the default.sql.gz file) |
| 14:34 | mtompset | but then the script would set up the kohauser and such on the default.sql.gz file |
| 14:35 | eythian | it would create a default user, yeah |
| 14:37 | mtompset | anything to git or tarball installs seem much easier than anything to package installs. In the former, a full dump will work. In the latter, you must trim it to just the koha database. |
| 14:39 | * jcamins | doesn't buy it. Dumping all your databases is just plain a bad idea. |
| 14:39 | jcamins | At least, that's how I see it. |
| 14:39 | You're bringing along cruft and baggage from an old system. | |
| 14:39 | mtompset | I was already doing that for full backup purposes. |
| 14:40 | jcamins | Sure, it's fine for a backup, but don't use it for anything less than a full restore. |
| 14:40 | That's my feeling, anyway. | |
| 14:41 | mtompset | I was trying to be lazy and not have to dump just one db for this process... reuse is good sometimes. :) |
| 14:41 | jcamins | Plus, it's not like you can't just set the db/user/password to whatever you want by editing the koha-conf.xml file, same as you do with a tarball install. |
| 14:41 | mtompset | Though, we decided to got with lzma's, not gz's. :) |
| 14:42 | actually, the build step in the tarball is what sets it. | |
| 14:42 | no file editing. | |
| 14:42 | if you have to edit a file, the install is too complex. :) | |
| 14:43 | And... if I dump just the one DB... it should be simple enough. | |
| 14:43 | eythian | isn't it easier to just dump one? |
| 14:43 | mtompset | -a is shorter than a db name. :P |
| 14:44 | jcamins | And oh-so-much-more dangerous. :) |
| 14:44 | eythian | it's also a billion times easier to restore. |
| 14:44 | mtompset | True... |
| 14:44 | eythian | (especially if you want to be changing db names or something) |
| 14:44 | mtompset | true |
| 14:46 | is import the correct SQL command, jcamins? | |
| 14:47 | eythian | you want: mysql -u ..... -p < file.sql |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Uhhh... I generally just use mysql < filename.sql |
| 14:47 | You could also use SOURCE, of course. | |
| 14:48 | eythian | '\.' is probably safter though |
| 14:49 | mtompset | the koha-zebra-daemon was running as the user I couldn't delete. |
| 14:49 | jcamins | '\.' ? |
| 14:51 | eythian | mtompset: yes. 'sudo /etc/init.d/koha-common stop' kills it (though maybe it gets confused if something failed.) |
| 14:51 | mtompset | I'll probably... mysql -u ... -p .... > user koha_...; > source db.sql; |
| 14:51 | eythian | jcamins: shortcut for source |
| 14:51 | mtompset: I wouldn't, your < is the wrong way around | |
| 14:51 | also your user is in the wrong place | |
| 14:51 | mtompset | No those are prompts. |
| 14:51 | eythian | oh duh :) |
| 14:51 | mtompset | Oops... I meant use; |
| 14:51 | eythian | ah |
| 14:52 | mtompset | Yes, it got confused. |
| 14:52 | I did a koha-remove... and it failed. | |
| 14:52 | so I had to kill the daemon manually, and delete the user. | |
| 14:52 | eythian | it really needs to be made more robust |
| 14:53 | mtompset | Don't look at me... I'm liking tarballs. ;) |
| 14:55 | okay... since the passwd thing failed to work for me... gone.. | |
| 14:55 | eythian | you won't when you discover "koha-mysql" |
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| 14:56 | jcamins | Yeah, koha-mysql is pretty awesome. |
| 14:56 | mtompset | eythian++ |
| 14:56 | Thanks for the tip. | |
| 14:57 | But I want to get a package install done first. | |
| 14:57 | I'm assuming koha-mysql is any time after the koha-create? | |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Though, really the way they ensure you don't hoist yourself on your own petard makes packages worthwhile in my eyes. |
| 14:57 | mtompset: that is correct. | |
| 14:58 | mtompset | interestingly enough only 3 things installed from the debian.koha-community.org when I was doing the apt-get install koha-common. |
| 14:58 | eythian | not surprising if you already had an isntall on that box |
| 14:59 | normally it's more like 100+ | |
| 14:59 | mtompset | Nope... |
| 14:59 | No install. | |
| 14:59 | This is a fresh VM. | |
| 14:59 | jcamins | eythian: from the k-c.org repo, not in general. |
| 14:59 | mtompset: that sounds about right. | |
| 14:59 | eythian | oh right |
| 14:59 | jcamins | Are you installing 3.6.x or 3.8.x? |
| 14:59 | eythian | yeah, there's only about 3 or 4 other things in there anyway |
| 14:59 | mtompset | Yes, there were over 200+ things to install. |
| 14:59 | I set up squeeze. | |
| 15:00 | as the repo, so I'm assuming it will be 3.8.x | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | Yup. |
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| 15:01 | Woody | quick question for someone in regards to the Koha logo |
| 15:01 | mtompset | Maybe. :) |
| 15:01 | What's the question? | |
| 15:01 | wahanui | the question is, like, "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 15:01 | jcamins | What's the answer? |
| 15:01 | wahanui | i guess the answer is always go back to sleep or 42 |
| 15:01 | * mtompset | laughs, "Silly bot!" |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Thanks, wahanui. |
| 15:01 | wahanui | my pleasure jcamins |
| 15:02 | Woody | haha I wish. But for serious, I'm using the Koha logo on a public library website, am I allowed to change the colour of the logo to better match our website's theme? |
| 15:02 | or must it stay black? | |
| 15:02 | mtompset | Isn't it all released under GPL? I would think colour changes would be okay. |
| 15:02 | I don't know. | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Woody: as far as I know you can change the color to anything you want. |
| 15:03 | Whoops. Someone hit refresh. | |
| 15:03 | * mtompset | grins. |
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| 15:03 | Woody | awesome. Firefox just quit on me. Anyone post an answer in the 30 seconds I was gone? |
| 15:04 | mtompset | jcamins commented further. |
| 15:04 | eythian | <jcamins> Woody: as far as I know you can change the color to anything you want. |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Hehe. I thought it was a refresh when trying to get to a different page. |
| 15:04 | :) | |
| 15:04 | Woody | the GPL is a bit vague on modifying trademarked logos. |
| 15:04 | jcamins | I think you just can't use the logo for something other than Koha. |
| 15:04 | Woody | Makes sense. |
| 15:05 | mtompset | Not to mention... it is green in other places. |
| 15:05 | jcamins | Also purple in some places. |
| 15:05 | Woody | Whelp, I'll try it out, and if I hear of any complaints I'll just switch it back. |
| 15:05 | jcamins | Makes sense. |
| 15:05 | mtompset | Thanks for using Koha. :) |
| 15:05 | Woody | No problem. Thanks for all your help :-) |
| 15:05 | jcamins | Oh, one thing you shouldn't do with the logo: choose ugly colors! ;) |
| 15:05 | Woody | haha deal |
| 15:06 | jcamins | I'd be interested to see your OPAC design once you've finished it. |
| 15:06 | Woody | Once it's complete perhaps I'll stop by again to drop off the link |
| 15:06 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:07 | Woody | Anyways time to load up GIMP and get to work. Have a great weekend everyone |
| 15:07 | jcamins | You too. |
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| 15:13 | rambutan | daem, I'm dealing with the logo issue right now myself. I could have had some input |
| 15:13 | The community really really needs to fix this problem. | |
| 15:13 | jcamins | What problem? |
| 15:13 | wahanui | it has been said that problem is its human beings doing it |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | yea, it's not up to the community to fix the problem. |
| 15:17 | the problem could have been fixed many times over. | |
| 15:18 | rambutan | OK, I've got vinegar in my system so.... |
| 15:19 | the problem is that PTFS owns the Koha logo trademark/copyright in the US | |
| 15:19 | I had wanted to paint the logo on our upcoming bookmobile, but we can't because of the trademark | |
| 15:20 | this is a community problem. | |
| 15:20 | mtompset | Yes, but your bookmobile isn't an installation of Koha, so why would you want to paint the logo on it? |
| 15:21 | rambutan | I don't know the solution for sure, but if we have to rename "Koha" to "Tinkerbell" and start all over with a clear statement of licensing, |
| 15:21 | well, sometime the problem is going to have to be resolved | |
| 15:21 | mtompset: to promote Koha. Evangelism. | |
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| 15:23 | mtompset | drive your bookmobile outside of the US? I really don't know a solution. |
| 15:23 | rambutan | yea, maybe we could service Canada? |
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| 15:23 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 15:23 | A bit of a schlep. | |
| 15:23 | rambutan | I'm sure they would need tech support for those trips |
| 15:25 | jcamins | You know, the cataloguing module is still painful to use. |
| 15:25 | I keep on hoping it'll be less unpleasant one day, but I don't see it. | |
| 15:25 | mtompset | But, jcamins, you are the hemi-semi-demi cataloguing deity. ;) |
| 15:26 | jcamins | mtompset: I'm not saying I can't use it, I'm saying it's awful. |
| 15:26 | mtompset | jcamins? |
| 15:26 | wahanui | it has been said that jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 15:27 | * mtompset | grins, "Another sub-project." |
| 15:27 | * jcamins | won't be rewriting the cataloguing module just now. |
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| 15:35 | eythian | leave it for tomorrow, eh? |
| 15:38 | * mtompset | high fives eythian. |
| 15:39 | mtompset | okay... running the SQL script now. :) |
| 15:43 | kf | bye all, have a nice weekend ! :) |
| 15:44 | * mtompset | waits for the tables to all get imported. |
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| 15:51 | wizzyrea | koha on ubuntu? |
| 15:51 | wahanui | well, koha on ubuntu is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | thx wahanui |
| 15:52 | jcamins | thx wahanui is <reply> yw |
| 15:52 | thx wahanui? | |
| 15:52 | wahanui | yw |
| 15:52 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:52 | oleonard | So wait, who says PTFS has a trademark on the Koha logo? |
| 15:52 | The name, yes, but the logo too? | |
| 15:54 | mtompset | wizzyrea: why were you looking for koha on ubuntu? |
| 15:54 | wizzyrea | the logo is included in the tm I believe |
| 15:54 | sekkrits ;) | |
| 15:54 | no, because I was updating my dev install on my laptop and | |
| 15:55 | wanted to know if there were any things I should be aware of | |
| 15:55 | it's 12.04 | |
| 15:55 | looks happy though | |
| 15:55 | mtompset | you probably want to make sure you have the k-c.org repo added. |
| 15:55 | Which hasn't made it into the wiki yet. | |
| 15:56 | Which reminds me... | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | I'm not sure they do, actually. |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | naw it's a dev install |
| 15:56 | not packagess | |
| 15:56 | I was looking at dependencies and stuffs | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you'll still need debian.k-c.org for dependencies. |
| 15:56 | mtompset | template::plugin::htmltotext |
| 15:56 | doesn't exist in Ubuntu. | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | ^^ that one |
| 15:56 | wizzyrea | ah so |
| 15:57 | mtompset | packages? |
| 15:57 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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| 15:57 | mtompset | go there... add the squeeze-dev. |
| 15:57 | do the wget for the key. | |
| 15:57 | blah blah blah... you know the drill. :) | |
| 15:58 | (apt-get update;apt-get upgrade...) | |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 15:58 | mtompset | And the capitalization on that name is wrong, but you get the idea. |
| 15:59 | Template::Plugin::HtmlToText... I think. | |
| 15:59 | and that reminds me... | |
| 15:59 | are the two datapaginator ones in k-c.org yet? | |
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| 15:59 | mtompset | Yes, I know they are optional. |
| 16:00 | jcamins | mtompset: nope. |
| 16:00 | They don't build. | |
| 16:00 | mtompset | Oh. :( |
| 16:00 | Sweet! Bug 8485 is signed off. | |
| 16:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8485 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Make koha_perl_deps.pl batch friendly |
| 16:01 | mtompset | khall++ |
| 16:01 | Thanks. :) | |
| 16:01 | khall | glad to assist! |
| 16:02 | mtompset | It's a necessary change for a yum install script I was working on. :) |
| 16:02 | Yes, I said 'yum' in the midst of an 'apt-get' crowd. :P | |
| 16:03 | oleonard | We say yum all the time. Usually in reference to jcamins' lunch. |
| 16:03 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:03 | mtompset | I was refering to .... (in a hushed voice) RPM-base distributions. |
| 16:03 | Bye, gaetan_B | |
| 16:04 | There are like 18 missing libraries under CentOS 6.3 | |
| 16:05 | and that's with EPEL enabled. | |
| 16:05 | 18 including the optional ones. | |
| 16:05 | that's a lot of CPAN'ing. | |
| 16:05 | *cringes* | |
| 16:07 | wow... that's a small apache site configuration file. | |
| 16:08 | The includes must really shrink it. | |
| 16:14 | Okay... something went wrong... | |
| 16:14 | jcamins | mtompset: why? |
| 16:15 | mtompset | I didn't try to set any funky password or anything. |
| 16:15 | jcamins | Did you change the password? |
| 16:15 | mtompset | No, I didn't. |
| 16:15 | Whatever it generated. | |
| 16:15 | jcamins | And you're using the correct password according to koha-conf.xml? |
| 16:16 | mtompset | Let me check... because I didn't edit the xml file at all. |
| 16:16 | jcamins | mtompset: it's easy to get confused and try to log in using the Zebra credentials. |
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| 16:16 | jcamins | Which won't work no matter how many times you try. |
| 16:16 | mtompset | I didn't even get a login prompt. |
| 16:17 | jcamins | Ah. Hm. |
| 16:17 | Wait. | |
| 16:17 | Are you on 12.04? | |
| 16:17 | (Ubuntu) | |
| 16:17 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 16:18 | jcamins | You need to do an extra CREATE USER thanks to the stupid anonymous login feature. |
| 16:18 | That was patched for the next version. | |
| 16:18 | mtompset | AH! |
| 16:18 | Right. | |
| 16:18 | jcamins | CREATE USER 'koha_teamwork'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'samepass'; |
| 16:23 | mtompset | do I need a grant all too? |
| 16:24 | paul_p | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]letter-9-2012-07/ => RM newsletter published. |
| 16:25 | and leaving for vacation ! | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | mtompset: I'm not sure. But it's worth trying again. |
| 16:25 | mtompset | Ah... THERE'S the password. |
| 16:26 | I see what you mean about the zebra password and the koha password. | |
| 16:27 | YAY! Web installer page. | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:29 | mtompset | That was a journey and a half. |
| 16:29 | I hope my web page doesn't time out on the upgrade. | |
| 16:29 | jcamins | It will, but it doesn't matter. |
| 16:29 | mtompset | I have had that happen... just had to wait for the process to finish running. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:30 | Happens to me every time I use a dev or tarball install. | |
| 16:30 | After the initial inconvenience of importing a package install, you'll never have to worry about it again. | |
| 16:30 | mtompset | update errors. |
| 16:30 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5600: very tiny follow-up to pass perlcritic <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f48345b3cdec058ce> / Bug 5600 follow-up: Fix commandline check in order to work under Plack <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0d2cf9bde60fcc25> / Bug 5600: Command line interface for tools/export.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitwe |
| 16:30 | mtompset | [Sat Aug 4 00:28:28 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate column name 'patronreason' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4586. |
| 16:30 | [Sat Aug 4 00:28:29 2012] updatedatabase.pl: DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry '545' for key 'PRIMARY' at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl line 4618. | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | You can ignore all those duplicate messages. |
| 16:31 | That means something was backported to 3.6.x. | |
| 16:31 | mtompset | Yes, but that would freak someone out. |
| 16:31 | jcamins | They'll survive. |
| 16:31 | And if they're concerned enough to ask, we'll tell them not to worry about it. | |
| 16:33 | wizzyrea | there, that's a much prettier dependencies page. |
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| 16:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #801 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 1 mo 0 days ago) |
| 16:38 | mtompset | where is gradient CSS'd? |
| 16:38 | jcamins | mtompset: probably opac.css? |
| 16:38 | mtompset | under staff-client |
| 16:38 | oleonard | mtompset: got Firebug? |
| 16:38 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 16:39 | Hence the question. | |
| 16:39 | oleonard | Firebug gives you the answer :) |
| 16:39 | Right-click, inspect in Firebug | |
| 16:39 | mtompset | It doesn't say which CSS it is in. |
| 16:39 | oleonard | staff-global.css (line 195) |
| 16:40 | It does say. Not sure if yours is configured differently? | |
| 16:40 | mtompset | Ah... okay... let me turn off that syspref. |
| 16:40 | oleonard | http://screencast.com/t/o9aXHtwNsRT |
| 16:41 | mtompset | I have my staff-global pointed to a tweaked version via a syspref. |
| 16:41 | That's why it is weird. | |
| 16:42 | jcamins | mtompset: Firebug will tell you where the setting comes from. |
| 16:42 | mtompset | No, I didn't overwrite... I used the syspref. :) |
| 16:42 | Yes, but my tweaked staff-global is from 3.6.3 | |
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| 16:42 | mtompset | That's why it is screwy. |
| 16:43 | jcamins | Alt-shift-refresh? |
| 16:44 | mtompset | No... just clear the syspref, and all should be good. |
| 16:44 | Yep... All is good. | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 16:45 | mtompset | Just have to tweak the right version of staff-global for the job. :) |
| 16:45 | But, that's a job for TOMORROW (or next week) | |
| 16:45 | I suppose I should attempt a search | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | mtompset: you will, of course, need to reindex if you didn't yet. |
| 16:47 | mtompset | Yes. And the best way to reindex is? |
| 16:47 | Seeing as there is no 'koha' user. | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | koha-rebuild-zebra --full cooperation |
| 16:47 | mtompset | you mean teamwork. |
| 16:47 | jcamins | teamwork, yes. |
| 16:47 | But there's an 'i' in "cooperation"! | |
| 16:48 | mtompset | sudo or no sudo? |
| 16:48 | jcamins | sudo |
| 16:49 | mtompset | well, one advantage of the package install is access to all those debianist scripts. :) |
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| 16:51 | mtompset | because we all know the koha-rebuild-zebra really is a wrapper. |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 16:51 | But a convenient one. | |
| 16:55 | mtompset | When will the next 3.8.x be out? |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Dashboard? |
| 16:55 | dashboard is at http://dashboard.koha-community.org/ | |
| 16:55 | August 22, I imagine. | |
| 16:56 | mtompset | I'm wondering if instead of upgrading to 3.6.7we should jump to 3.8.x just after the 22nd. |
| 16:56 | jcamins | You could do that. |
| 16:56 | * jcamins | is sticking with 3.6.x for another few releases. |
| 16:56 | mtompset | because gradient makes my styling life a lot easier! |
| 16:57 | Think you could get gradient in 3.6.8? | |
| 16:58 | jcamins | You could just steal the staff-global.css file from 3.8.x. |
| 16:58 | oleonard | It requires some markup changes |
| 16:58 | jcamins | I won't be backporting it to 3.6.x because it offers very little benefit. |
| 16:59 | Oh, I didn't realize there were markup changes. | |
| 16:59 | In that case, no, it won't be going into 3.6.x. | |
| 16:59 | mtompset | Yes. there are markup changes. |
| 16:59 | that single div is a lifesaver! | |
| 17:00 | The problem is I head back early november... just before 3.10 is released. | |
| 17:00 | I don't want to have to upgrade again, because I didn't just to 3.8.x | |
| 17:01 | ^just^jump^ | |
| 17:01 | * jcamins | won't be upgrading to 3.10 any time soon. |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Since you don't do fines, you should be fine with 3.8, I think. |
| 17:02 | mtompset | --yet. |
| 17:03 | Wow! khall has the last 5 signoffs. Way to go for productivity. :) | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | And two of them are on my patches. :) |
| 17:05 | mtompset | and one was mine... hence the +'s before. :) |
| 17:08 | Hmmm.... well, paul_p is on vacation... (or will be shortly, and I am too tired to think about bug 8329 | |
| 17:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8329 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT * |
| 17:09 | mtompset | If anyone wants to comment on it, feel free. |
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| 17:19 | * mtompset | is waiting for zebra to reindex, "What a pain!" |
| 17:19 | jcamins | mtompset: yeah, I had to reindex a 200k record database three times yesterday. It was very frustrating. |
| 17:20 | mtompset | Oh, and the two perl dependencies that would be really nice on debian.koha-community.org are Data::Paginator and Data::Pagination |
| 17:20 | jcamins | mtompset: agreed. |
| 17:20 | However, since they don't compile, don't hold your breath. | |
| 17:20 | mtompset | Why don't the compile? |
| 17:20 | * jcamins | shrugs |
| 17:20 | jcamins | No idea. |
| 17:20 | mtompset | Should I try doing a CPAN on a VM, just to find out? |
| 17:21 | jcamins | That's why I asked on bug 8233 for an explanation. |
| 17:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 major, P2, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
| 17:21 | jcamins | It's worth a try, I suppose. |
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| 17:28 | rambutan | jcamins: email to you |
| 17:35 | jcamins | rambutan: thanks. |
| 17:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #801: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/801/ |
| 17:40 | * robin: Bug 8544 - make the RSS icon CSS-changeable | |
| 17:40 | * m.de.rooy: 8263 Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent (dbrev) | |
| 17:40 | * m.de.rooy: 8263 Consistent stylesheet prefs | |
| 17:40 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8263 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 17:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8544 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Make RSS icon styleable |
| 17:40 | jenkins_koha | * veron: Bug 7628 - Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories |
| 17:40 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7628: Escape '+' characters for categorycode | |
| 17:40 | * kyle: Bug 3383 - Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information | |
| 17:40 | * kyle: Bug 3383 - Followup - Switch from GetMemberDetails to GetMember | |
| 17:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent |
| 17:41 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 5600: Command line interface for tools/export.pl |
| 17:41 | * julian.maurice: Bug 5600 follow-up: Fix commandline check in order to work under Plack | |
| 17:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7628 normal, P3, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories |
| 17:41 | jenkins_koha | * julian.maurice: Bug 5600: very tiny follow-up to pass perlcritic |
| 17:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information |
| 17:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5600 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Bulk MARC biblio export script | |
| 17:43 | melia | hi #koha |
| 17:44 | I have a bugzilla question. I want to remove an attachment that I added to a bug, but I can't seem to make it go away. I marked it obsolete, but you can still see it... | |
| 17:45 | jcamins | melia: you can't delete an attachment, just mark it obsolete. |
| 17:46 | melia | darn it. ok. I guess obsolete is better than nothing. |
| 17:46 | * mtompset | figures out why it is taking so long to reindex... LOW MEMORY! |
| 17:46 | jcamins | Since it won't show up in git-bz, no one will try to apply it. |
| 17:47 | melia | it's just a scanned reserve slip, but I realized after I put it on there that I should have blacked out the patron name or something. I don't want to show his private info to the whole world, but now I can't get rid of it. |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Ah. Yeah. You could ask rangi. He might be able to delete it. |
| 17:48 | mtompset | What's the bug number? |
| 17:48 | melia | bug 8542 |
| 17:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8542 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , <<today>> token produces a funny looking time on Reserves Slip |
| 17:48 | oleonard | Why do you ask mtompset? You can't administer Bugzilla. |
| 17:49 | mtompset | No, but someone who can may read IRC logs, before actually coming here. |
| 17:49 | melia | I'll ask rangi for help. thanks everyone! |
| 17:53 | gmcharlt | melia: I've deleted that attachment |
| 17:54 | melia | oh good. thanks very much! I hate when I do something dumb and then can't fix it :) |
| 17:54 | mtompset | I'm sure we've all been there and done that too. :) |
| 17:54 | gmcharlt | melia: you're welcome |
| 17:55 | mtompset | give my system's low memory... I think sleep is in order. |
| 17:56 | Maybe the reindex will be done (or have noticeably failed) later. | |
| 17:56 | Have a good day (24 hour period), #koha. | |
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| 18:23 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 18:24 | * jcamins | was on the server with almost no one attached. It was very dull. |
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| 18:25 | * oleonard | hands jcamins a plate of hors d'oeuvres and a drink with an umbrella in it |
| 18:25 | oleonard | khall around? |
| 18:26 | khall | indeed |
| 18:26 | oleonard | Were you testing the patch on Bug 4048 or the gitorious branch? |
| 18:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4048 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , CSS and JS libs must be outside of translated paths |
| 18:26 | khall | just the attached patch |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Ooh, how nice. Apparently there was a party on the other server during the netsplit. Fortunate oleonard saved some hors d'oeuvres and a drink. |
| 18:27 | oleonard | khall: the patch is a follow-up of the work in the gitorious branch. |
| 18:27 | * oleonard | suspects the attached patch is obsolete,but doesn't block testing of the bug |
| 18:28 | khall | gotcha, thanks for the info! |
| 18:28 | * cait | waves |
| 18:29 | oleonard | Thanks for testing khall |
| 18:29 | cait | party? |
| 18:29 | khall | hey cait, hope everything is well over in your neck of the woods |
| 18:29 | no prob | |
| 18:29 | cait | khall: mostly - as always not getting all done I would like to do :) |
| 18:30 | khall | thus is life :P |
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| 18:42 | oleonard | anyone else having trouble fetching from git.koha-community.org? |
| 18:47 | gmcharlt | oleonard: not me |
| 18:48 | * oleonard | always seems to have this problem when others don't |
| 18:48 | oleonard | Southeast Ohio git vortex |
| 19:04 | Uh... jcamins_away, Bug 8571? | |
| 19:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Add search suggestions on the OPAC ("Did you mean?" feature) |
| 19:05 | wizzyrea | hrm |
| 19:08 | cait | hrm |
| 19:08 | indeed | |
| 19:13 | maximep | damn. |
| 19:14 | yet another feature we did more than a year ago | |
| 19:15 | oleonard | ?? |
| 19:15 | maximep | and couldn't share |
| 19:16 | jwagner | It's also a duplicate of code we made available in Bug 4240, which is of course long out of date now |
| 19:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
| 19:16 | cait | maximep: I tested jared's feature yesterday - ireally like the way you can extend it |
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| 19:18 | cait | bug 8209 |
| 19:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 19:26 | * oleonard | wonders how many hours the Koha project has lost to duplicated efforts |
| 19:27 | maximep | yeah that sucks :/ |
| 19:27 | cait | i guess a lot of them. |
| 19:27 | release early release often | |
| 19:27 | maximep | but it's not a waste of time to have different ways to do the code and have the best win |
| 19:27 | that's prety much the perl way to do it | |
| 19:27 | cait | :) |
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| 19:28 | oleonard | It's a waste of time if you code each version to completion and then have to throw one away |
| 19:29 | maximep | not really |
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| 19:29 | maximep | there's always a way to reuse some of the code |
| 19:30 | I guess you should try jcamins_away's patch fcapovilla | |
| 19:33 | fcapovilla | Looking at the diff, his patch seems a lot more complete than mine. Mine is just a simple authority search. |
| 19:39 | cait | if it works very different my |
| 19:39 | maybe you could create your own plugin | |
| 19:41 | maximep | you think this will be in 3.10 ? |
| 19:41 | *do you | |
| 19:41 | cait | it will go through qa |
| 19:41 | next | |
| 19:42 | but I think it#s not likely to break something, so I think it should be | |
| 19:42 | hopefully :) | |
| 19:43 | maximep | =) |
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| 19:59 | jcamins_away | Bug 4240 and bug 8209 aren't similar at all. |
| 19:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
| 19:59 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities | |
| 20:00 | jcamins | Clearly bug 8571 isn't a duplicate of both of them. |
| 20:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8571 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fcapovilla, ASSIGNED , Add search suggestions on the OPAC ("Did you mean?" feature) |
| 20:00 | * jcamins | consults the patch on bug 8571. |
| 20:01 | oleonard | Not least because Bug 4240 was never properly submitted to Koha |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Actually, that's a duplicate of bug 7417. |
| 20:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7417 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Include alternate forms from authorities in bibliographic searches |
| 20:01 | jcamins | :D |
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| 20:02 | jcamins | I mean, different implementation, but same function. |
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| 20:02 | * jcamins | thinks he prefers his patches for bug 7417 and bug 8209. Offer far more options. |
| 20:03 | jcamins | But then, I'm biased. |
| 20:04 | cait | I like your implementation too |
| 20:04 | * jcamins | had to comment. |
| 20:05 | jcamins | fcapovilla: ah, I see you're online. |
| 20:05 | fcapovilla: you should take a look at bug 7417. I think that will do what you want. | |
| 20:06 | rangi | 4240 otoh will do nothing |
| 20:06 | :_ | |
| 20:06 | :) too | |
| 20:06 | cait | bug 4240 |
| 20:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4240 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, RESOLVED WONTFIX, Add a "did you mean" spell checker to the OPAC |
| 20:06 | cait | ah |
| 20:07 | fcapovilla | Honestly, all my patch does is show search suggestions based on the search terms the user entered. It search into the "see from" of authorities to find its suggestions. |
| 20:07 | It's closer to bug 8209 | |
| 20:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 20:08 | jcamins | fcapovilla: the display is closer. However, in terms of what you were trying to get at, I think it's closer to 7417. |
| 20:09 | fcapovilla | The feature is already working on our client's instances, but in a future update we will have to use jcamins's patch. We might create a plugin for it if our client doesn't exactly like the way it works :P |
| 20:10 | jcamins | fcapovilla: that's the idea. With the architecture in bug 8209 it's eeeeeasssssyyyyyyyy. :) |
| 20:11 | In fact, you could (no joke) copy and paste the code you added to the .pl into a copy of Koha/Filter/Null.pm, and have it working in ten minutes. | |
| 20:12 | fcapovilla | We'll see when we get there. Maybe our client will prefer your method :P |
| 20:12 | jcamins | Add an extra ten minutes to write^H^Hborrow^H^Hsteal a unit test, and you're done. :) |
| 20:13 | cait | lol |
| 20:15 | oleonard | have a good weekend #koha |
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| 20:24 | maximep | koha' community is the best =) |
| 20:25 | have a good weekend everyone | |
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| 20:29 | cait | maximep++ |
| 20:29 | jcamins | mtj: around? |
| 20:30 | rangi | its 8.30am saturday, unlikely :) |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 20:30 | Right. | |
| 20:31 | Well, he thinks I'm around at midnight on Fridays, so who could say? :P | |
| 20:33 | rangi | :) |
| 20:36 | * rangi | is watching the 10,000m live |
| 20:36 | rangi | i like the middle/long races |
| 20:39 | hmm japan 1 and 2 | |
| 20:39 | this is unexpected | |
| 20:39 | to me anyway | |
| 20:39 | rambutan | I like the minor sports (which never get shown) |
| 20:40 | rangi | like? |
| 20:40 | wahanui | like is probably done all the time in the Lua community |
| 20:40 | rangi | we have 8 channels of live coverage, probably on one of those |
| 20:40 | i was watching handball | |
| 20:41 | rambutan | 1 ex: shooting sports (US shooter (skeet I think) won her 5th gold this time--in 5 different olympics) |
| 20:41 | rangi | oh, yeah i saw that |
| 20:41 | the winner of the mens skeet hit some ridiculous thing | |
| 20:41 | cait | me too :) |
| 20:42 | rangi | 316 out of 320 or something insane |
| 20:42 | i saw the air pistol and small bore rifle too | |
| 20:42 | and i watched all the archery | |
| 20:42 | i flick between channels lots :) | |
| 20:43 | didnt watch any of the swimming this year, oh look its the same race again and again and again and agian | |
| 20:44 | rambutan | Yea, I like watching tennis too, but all the TV coverage invariably is of angles and zoom levels that annoy the h* out of me. |
| 20:44 | rangi | now its kenya kenya ethiopia kenya |
| 20:44 | thats more like it | |
| 20:45 | rambutan: yeah just cos you can doesnt mean you should, directors need to learn that | |
| 20:45 | i did watch synchronised diving | |
| 20:45 | thats insane | |
| 20:49 | rambutan | hey rangi, what does the "Te" mean in Te Horowhenua Trust? |
| 20:50 | rangi | the |
| 20:50 | rambutan | ah, well, I was reading it like that, but didn't think it would be so obvious |
| 20:51 | rangi | want a job there? |
| 20:51 | http://www.horowhenua.govt.nz/[…]rs/Job-Vacancies/ | |
| 20:51 | :) | |
| 20:52 | http://tetakere.org.nz/index.php | |
| 20:52 | rambutan | hummm. I'm thinking when I leave here I really need to do something challenging. I'd like to work on space systems or something |
| 20:52 | and space is winding down here in the US, of course | |
| 20:53 | GIS maybe. Space imagery maybe. | |
| 20:54 | rangi | yep |
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| 21:27 | rangi | ok time to go find something to do with the kids |
| 21:28 | jcamins | rangi: I suggest finding haka classes. :) |
| 21:28 | * cait | agrees on haka |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Or performances, but if your sons are going to join in anyway, might as well go to classes, right? |
| 21:29 | Less likely to confuse people. :) | |
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| 22:50 | jcamins | '"Vibrant" did you mean' features. Heh. |
| 22:50 | * jcamins | likes that requirement. |
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