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| 00:00 | rangi | hmm this changes the behaviour quite a lot |
| 00:00 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15fe3e9c31ce0d170 | |
| 00:00 | JoeLib001 | Do I want libmoosex-types-perl or libmoosex-types-perl-perl? |
| 00:01 | I would guess the first one? | |
| 00:01 | rangi | ahhh, those are optional to |
| 00:01 | o | |
| 00:01 | id leave them | |
| 00:01 | JoeLib001 | Ok. |
| 00:01 | libtime-progresss-perl | |
| 00:01 | libtest-mockmodule-perl | |
| 00:01 | libstring-rewriteprefix-perl | |
| 00:01 | Any of those optional? | |
| 00:02 | rangi | yep you want all of those |
| 00:02 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:04 | JoeLib001 | I'm not finding a package for Data::Paginator or Data::Pagination |
| 00:05 | Do I need to pull those using cpan? | |
| 00:05 | rangi | shouldnt |
| 00:06 | libdata-paginator-perl | |
| 00:06 | but again you dont need them | |
| 00:06 | JoeLib001 | Ah, awesome. :-) |
| 00:06 | 'cause they aren't in my list. hehe. | |
| 00:06 | rangi | they are to dowith the SolR stuff |
| 00:10 | JoeLib001 | Ok, I got all the dependencies in that were important. I'm still getting this error though: Template process failed: file error - /home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/prog/en/modules/installer/auth.tt: not found at /home/joe/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127. |
| 00:10 | Oh. | |
| 00:10 | Hmm... not found. :-) | |
| 00:10 | Sounds like some more configuration fun. | |
| 00:11 | <includes>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/</includes> | |
| 00:12 | <intrahtdocs>/home/joe/kohaclone/koha-tmpl</intrahtdocs> | |
| 00:17 | Woot! :-) It's up. :-) | |
| 00:18 | rangi | yay |
| 00:18 | and now im going to lunch :) | |
| 00:20 | JoeLib001 | Yay! :-) |
| 00:20 | The patch worked. | |
| 00:20 | How do I say it worked? | |
| 00:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #117: SUCCESS in 1 hr 5 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/117/ |
| 00:27 | jcamins: Bug 8204 follow-up: quiet warn | |
| 00:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8204 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Stable , Authority viewer in OPAC ugly, unfriendly, and mostly useless |
| 00:27 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #118 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 01:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #118: SUCCESS in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/118/ |
| 01:29 | * fridolyn.somers: Bug 8503: Software error in edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords | |
| 01:29 | * veron: Bug 8518 - Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow | |
| 01:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8503 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Stable , Software error n edit items with EasyAnalyticalRecords |
| 01:29 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow | |
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| 02:07 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:08 | rangi | hi druthb |
| 02:08 | druthb | hiya, rangi |
| 02:31 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 02:31 | Judit | hi |
| 02:31 | wahanui | privet, Judit |
| 02:49 | rangi | Judit: https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akam[…]3_798192009_n.jpg |
| 02:50 | have you been watching any of the olymics? | |
| 03:14 | Judit | rangi, no not really |
| 03:14 | rangi | not so good in our timezones |
| 03:14 | Judit | i ended up with no internet connection, and no tv |
| 03:14 | i guess | |
| 03:14 | rangi | eek, that wouldnt help |
| 03:15 | Judit | and i would be interested in the hungarian teams |
| 03:15 | no coverage at all | |
| 03:15 | rangi | true |
| 03:15 | Judit | and just all tohetger |
| 03:15 | i dont like that tv stations decide on what i want to see | |
| 03:17 | http://www.smh.com.au/technolo[…]120802-23gw8.html | |
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| 03:18 | rangi | :) |
| 03:19 | Judit1 | i am looking forward the future- in tv/broadcast industry too |
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| 04:07 | cait | morning #koha |
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| 04:48 | cait | :) |
| 04:48 | yay! :) | |
| 04:50 | rangi | jorgia is fixing the purchasing suggestions layout thing on the staff homepage |
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| 05:00 | dcook | Allo #koha |
| 05:04 | cait | jorgia++ :) |
| 05:04 | hi dcook :) | |
| 05:05 | dcook | hey cait :) |
| 05:05 | Having a good morning? | |
| 05:07 | cait | hm yes |
| 05:07 | mostly :) | |
| 05:09 | dcook | Glad to hear it :) |
| 05:10 | cait | how is your... evening? |
| 05:12 | dcook | Mid-afternoon ;) |
| 05:12 | Busy, really busy | |
| 05:14 | At the moment, I'm trying to figure out the purpose of the "man" directory in Koha | |
| 05:14 | rangi | its created by make |
| 05:14 | its where the man pages live | |
| 05:15 | dcook | I figured it must be a by-product of the install, but wasn't sure if it was still used in some way |
| 05:15 | rangi | nope |
| 05:15 | dcook | Are those command line accessible onnly? |
| 05:15 | rangi | http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ <-- all there |
| 05:16 | dcook | Hmmm |
| 05:17 | rangi | its programmer docs |
| 05:17 | not end user docs | |
| 05:17 | except for the scripts in the packages like koha-create | |
| 05:19 | dcook | Interesting. What type of things are in there? |
| 05:20 | rangi | in where the packages? |
| 05:20 | or in the perldoc? | |
| 05:20 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages <-- packages | |
| 05:21 | dcook | I remember seeing koha-create was a command that came with packages |
| 05:21 | I'm just curious as to how to use these man pages | |
| 05:22 | * dcook | isn't quite sure of the purpose of perldoc either :p |
| 05:22 | cait | perldoc is for developers, I use it for finding which function to use and which arguments it takes and so on - easier to browse than the source code |
| 05:24 | dcook | I follow you now, cait. It seems that I was looking at a few less than useful pages, but I see what you mean |
| 05:24 | rangi | its created (like the man pages are) from the POD in the perl files |
| 05:24 | which is why you should always write POD | |
| 05:26 | dcook | I believe that I'm starting to catch on...haha |
| 05:27 | cait | document! :) |
| 05:27 | dcook | Always a good thing :D |
| 05:28 | So you can only use POD in .pm files, yes? | |
| 05:28 | I think that's the only place I've seen it | |
| 05:28 | rangi | nope .pl too |
| 05:28 | check out | |
| 05:28 | misc/links_bibs_to_authorities.pl | |
| 05:29 | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]_authorities.html et voila | |
| 05:29 | cait | jcamins :) |
| 05:30 | rangi | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]c-MARCdetail.html |
| 05:30 | etc | |
| 05:30 | dcook | Very cool! |
| 05:30 | I've been pondering a bit lately about how to document well in Perl | |
| 05:31 | So the man pages show the same thing that I'm looking at on perldoc? | |
| 05:32 | Do I access them through the perldoc command at the command line? | |
| 05:32 | Nvm | |
| 05:32 | Answered my own question :p | |
| 05:33 | Merci, beaucoup rangi and cait :) | |
| 05:33 | Ack.. | |
| 05:34 | Merci beaucoup* | |
| 05:34 | I don't know where all these comma splices are coming from... | |
| 05:34 | cait | you can just say Danke ;) |
| 05:34 | dcook | Danke, cait ;) |
| 05:34 | Bitte means thank you and you're welcome, yes? | |
| 05:34 | cait | for once german is shorter and easier to type... doesn't happen all that often |
| 05:34 | dcook: yep :) | |
| 05:35 | hm no | |
| 05:35 | please and you are welcome | |
| 05:35 | dcook | Right |
| 05:35 | Sorry, that's what I meant | |
| 05:35 | cait | yep, read what you meant :) |
| 05:35 | dcook | But yes...I've heard that the german for "pen" is quite the mouthful |
| 05:35 | cait | heh |
| 05:35 | füllfederhalter? | |
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| 05:36 | cait | ah kugelschreiber says my dictionary... always confusing those |
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| 05:37 | francharb | hello |
| 05:37 | dcook | Fair enough |
| 05:37 | hi francharb :) | |
| 05:37 | I met some guys from Bavaria when I was in Prague and they said that even they didn't understand German grammar :p | |
| 05:37 | francharb | 0/ dcook |
| 05:40 | cait | dcook: makes sense to me |
| 05:40 | dcook: I started to understand it when I learned russian - but I still couldn't explain to someone else really | |
| 05:40 | dcook | Mmm, that's how I feel about English |
| 05:41 | I can explain French grammar, but my explanations of English are based on what I learned from that | |
| 05:42 | cait | I want to take an english test in autumn.. guess that will force me to repeat some of the english grammar we learned at school |
| 05:44 | dcook | What's the test for? |
| 05:44 | ^dangling preposition = bad :P | |
| 05:44 | cait | hm? |
| 05:45 | well. in this case it would enable me to study abroad. | |
| 05:45 | where people speak english. | |
| 05:45 | but there are no plans for that :) | |
| 05:46 | dcook | Sounds like a good test. I wish you luck :) |
| 05:46 | mtj | dcook: if you look at CPAN, most of the info you read is straight from the perldoc |
| 05:46 | like this... -> http://search.cpan.org/dist/MA[…]ib/MARC/Record.pm | |
| 05:47 | all that pretty info , is generated from this file here... -> http://cpansearch.perl.org/src[…]ib/MARC/Record.pm | |
| 05:48 | dcook | O_o myj |
| 05:48 | mtj* | |
| 05:48 | mtj | so, perldoc syntax is kinda like a 'wiki' markup language... |
| 05:49 | dcook | Mmm, you're right. It does look like a wiki markup |
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| 05:51 | mtj | yep, cpan and perldoc.kc.org are doing the same formatting trick (cpan is perhaps a little prettier, tho..) |
| 05:52 | but its the same idea - pull the perldoc markup from a perl file, and display it | |
| 05:53 | dcook | Yep. It's a handy thing to know :) |
| 05:53 | * dcook | stores it in the ol' memory bank |
| 05:56 | francharb | guys, ladies, do you have an xml editor to recommend me (that works with ubuntu)? |
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| 05:56 | francharb | right now, I'm working with XML Copy Editor |
| 05:56 | and it's a little bit buggy | |
| 05:58 | yesterday, at the end of the day, the writting cursor was two letters ahead of where it should be... was kind of hard to edit anything! | |
| 05:59 | and... well this morning, it's still the same... | |
| 05:59 | weird | |
| 05:59 | if anyone use any good tool, let me know! ;) | |
| 05:59 | dcook | Sorry, francharb. I got nothing :/ |
| 06:00 | francharb | ok |
| 06:00 | thanks anyway :) | |
| 06:01 | I will try somthing else randomly on synaptic then... | |
| 06:01 | ;) | |
| 06:01 | cait | sorry francharb - I don't have any recommendation |
| 06:02 | I like geany for an editor, but it's not specifically for xml | |
| 06:02 | francharb | cait, ok, I will check this out! |
| 06:02 | thanks | |
| 06:03 | cait | not sure this was helpful :) but hoping you find something oyu like |
| 06:04 | francharb | I'm working on a xslt stylesheet, so I'm testing editors at the same time |
| 06:04 | :) | |
| 06:05 | cait, geany looks cool! I'm going to test it right now! | |
| 06:05 | :) | |
| 06:06 | cait | :) |
| 06:06 | i use notepad++ on windows and geany/padre (still testing too...) on linux | |
| 06:08 | francharb | thanks for the advice! |
| 06:09 | cait | you are welcome :) |
| 06:16 | * magnuse | waves |
| 06:18 | rangi | Hi magnuse |
| 06:23 | cait | ugh |
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| 06:27 | mveron | Good daytime #koha |
| 06:27 | rangi | Hi mveron |
| 06:27 | cait | hi mveron :) |
| 06:27 | got my mail? | |
| 06:28 | mveron | Hi cait and rangi |
| 06:28 | dcook | Hey mveron |
| 06:28 | mveron | rangi: Yesterday I found out the origin of your nickname :-) |
| 06:28 | and hi dcook | |
| 06:28 | rangi | Hmm? |
| 06:29 | mveron | http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rangi_und_Papa |
| 06:29 | rangi | Ah yep it's my middle name |
| 06:30 | papa | I refuse to be a mother |
| 06:31 | rangi | Hehe |
| 06:31 | mveron | I found out because I do the web site for an artist located in New Zealand, and one of his paintings was relatedt to that myth |
| 06:31 | rangi | Ah yep small world |
| 06:31 | mveron | Indeed... |
| 06:32 | rangi | Ok my bus stop back later |
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| 06:52 | dcook | mveron++ |
| 06:52 | For good detective work... | |
| 06:52 | I've been wondering about this for ages ;) | |
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| 06:55 | mveron | dcook: :-) |
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| 07:14 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:14 | kf | good morning paul_p |
| 07:15 | almost vacation time for you :) | |
| 07:15 | magnuse | bomjour paul_p |
| 07:16 | oops, bonjour... | |
| 07:16 | kf | god morgen (?) magnuse |
| 07:16 | hm that looks wrong :) | |
| 07:16 | magnuse | nope, 100% correct! |
| 07:16 | mveron | good morning paul_pand and magnuse :-) |
| 07:16 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
| 07:16 | kf | see, that's whathappens when you are away that long - my norwegian gets all rusty |
| 07:16 | hi mveron :) | |
| 07:17 | magnuse | kf: sorry about that ;-) |
| 07:17 | mveron | ...and hi kf :-) |
| 07:17 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 07:17 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 12.0°C (8:50 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 | mveron | @wunder basel |
| 07:17 | huginn | mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 21.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:17 | magnuse | it's official - we had a lousy summer |
| 07:17 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:17 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 22.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 15.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:17 | mveron | Summer? |
| 07:17 | wahanui | hmmm... Summer is here now |
| 07:17 | kf | quite rainy here too, but it gets better |
| 07:17 | magnuse | two days in july with a temp over 20C... |
| 07:17 | kf | ouch :( |
| 07:20 | magnuse | it's a good thing we have something to distract us... :-) |
| 07:21 | kf | something named leonard? :) |
| 07:21 | magnuse | yup :-) |
| 07:23 | kf | :) |
| 07:25 | paul_p | @wunder Marseille, france |
| 07:25 | huginn | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 24.0°C (9:00 AM CEST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:26 | dcook | @wunder sydney, australia |
| 07:26 | huginn | dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 14.0°C (5:00 PM EST on August 02, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:26 | paul_p | magnuse = what are the news of the baby ? (and mother) |
| 07:29 | magnuse | paul_p: all well - just had a routine 2-month checkup yesterday with a doc and a midwife, and they could find nothing wrong |
| 07:29 | gaining weight and length steadily too :-) | |
| 07:30 | paul_p | magnuse if your wife is kinda like you in size, i'm sure he's gaining weight & length steadily :D |
| 07:31 | magnuse | paul_p: she is 188cm so yeah, we expect he'll grow a bit :-) |
| 07:33 | paul_p | magnuse 188cm ! wow! almost like you ! (when I was young, my mother used to say for kidding = "boy, you're like weed, you grow without needing care") |
| 07:33 | magnuse | hehe |
| 07:34 | kf | hehe |
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| 07:54 | mveron | kf: If I see mistakes in the German translation, I can fix them directly in Pootle, right? |
| 07:57 | kf | mveron: yes :) |
| 07:57 | be careful with the versions - always fix in the newest too - so it does not come back with the next update | |
| 07:57 | i think that's the problem gaetan ran into | |
| 07:58 | mveron | i.e. http://translate.koha-communit[…]000.po/translate/ |
| 07:59 | kf | yes? |
| 07:59 | mveron | I fix it there.. |
| 07:59 | kf | ah right |
| 07:59 | yep, in the newest project | |
| 07:59 | and if you need corrections in 3.6.x there too | |
| 08:00 | mveron | I have no 3.6 installed, so i can not double check |
| 08:00 | kf | ah |
| 08:00 | no problem then :) | |
| 08:01 | mveron | ...but I will do the fixes for de-CH as well ;-) |
| 08:01 | kf | sorry - will try to look into it today |
| 08:02 | mveron | :-) |
| 08:14 | dcook | 'night everyone. Have a good day of Kohaing!\ |
| 08:48 | * paul_p | head to bugzilla and will try to QA & push for the rest of the day... |
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| 09:32 | mveron | kf: Found one translation issue not related to pootle: Bug 8556 |
| 09:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8556 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , "Mark seen and continue" not translatable in inventory.tt |
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| 11:29 | magnuse | jcamins: will Bug 8538 be covered by some of your work/plans? |
| 11:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8538 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , true browse for authorities |
| 11:29 | magnuse | ...and g'day! |
| 11:29 | jcamins | magnuse: not yet. |
| 11:30 | paul_p | very quiet mailbox those weeks (outsite from bugzilla mails ;-) ) |
| 11:30 | magnuse | ah, ok, just thought maybe there was some overlap |
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| 11:30 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:30 | paul_p | 'morning oleonard |
| 11:32 | jcamins | magnuse: nah, that would cost as much as all my other authority-related development put together. |
| 11:33 | magnuse | ouch! |
| 11:35 | jcamins | Not that it wouldn't be cool, but no one would actually use it. |
| 11:36 | magnuse | hehe, there is that too... |
| 11:37 | kf | jcamins: do you have a minute? |
| 11:37 | I have some authority linking questions | |
| 11:39 | jcamins | Sure. |
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| 12:26 | oleonard | Bug 8553 sounds like a support request. Close it and direct them to the mailing list, or leave it? |
| 12:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8553 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , encountered a problem in searching through Barcode |
| 12:27 | jcamins | I prefer A. |
| 12:28 | oleonard | Given Bug 8554, it sounds like the user is mucking around with mappings and frameworks |
| 12:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , marck bibliographic framework test |
| 12:28 | khall | bug 6151 followup needs signoff. It's an easy one. |
| 12:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6151 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , IndependantBranches and HomeOrHoldingBranchReturn can prevent items from being checked in |
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| 12:49 | * oleonard | doesn't understand some libraries' policy of assessing a fine when making something long overdue |
| 12:50 | oleonard | It's still on their record... why apply a replacement charge? |
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| 12:50 | * oleonard | is reading nengard's bug report |
| 12:51 | nengard | the lost item one? |
| 12:51 | oleonard | Yes |
| 12:52 | nengard | does anyone know (on another note) when we set circ and fine rules is the branch we select from the pull down the it's branch or the patron's branch? |
| 12:53 | jcamins | It should be the item's branch, because that's what HomeOrHolding is for. |
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| 13:32 | jcamins | paul_p: there's a patch for the HASH() display. |
| 13:32 | Bug 5520. | |
| 13:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5520 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, pianohacker, RESOLVED FIXED, No .packages file for Ubuntu Maverick |
| 13:33 | jcamins | No. |
| 13:33 | Bug 8520. | |
| 13:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 major, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
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| 13:40 | talljoy | jcamins: you said yesterday thatj "as of 3.8, BiblioAddsAuthorities is essentially a no-op." But I see that sys pref is tied to the AutoCreateAuthorities syspref. Are both of those sys prefs 'no-op'? |
| 13:40 | jcamins | talljoy: autocreateauthorities does things. biblioaddsauthorities merely changes the javascript. |
| 13:40 | paul_p | jcamins thx, it' s pushed ! |
| 13:41 | jcamins | paul_p: excellent! That fixed your problem, right? |
| 13:41 | talljoy | well autocreatesuthorities says "BiblioAddsAuthorities must be set to "allow" for this to have any effect" |
| 13:41 | and setting it to allow breaks things | |
| 13:41 | paul_p | jcamins right |
| 13:41 | jcamins | talljoy: yes, because without BiblioAddsAuthorities you can't actually enter in headings. |
| 13:42 | talljoy | so if biblioaddsauthorites is set to don't allow then authorities cannot be autogenerated? |
| 13:42 | jcamins | Authorities cannot be entered or autogenerated. |
| 13:42 | talljoy | that's a bigger problem than i thought. |
| 13:42 | if you are importing records through z3950 | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | Yeah, this is why BiblioAddsAuthorities was a profoundly bad idea. |
| 13:43 | * paul_p | is back to QAing bug 4198 ! |
| 13:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , deleting an authority refreshes the page |
| 13:43 | * jcamins | wanders off. |
| 13:43 | paul_p | ... and it work nicely ;-) |
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| 13:49 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6720' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1c74bddd9a3c9a801> / Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48b0de13aa3e549f3> / Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b/?p=koha.git;a=c |
| 13:51 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #797 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago) |
| 13:51 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:54 | eythian joined #koha | |
| 13:55 | * magnuse | waves to eythian, wherever he happens to be today :-) |
| 14:01 | oleonard | Yay us! |
| 14:01 | eythian | magnuse: hiya. Not sure where I am right now, on a train heading back to Marseille in general though. |
| 14:02 | nengard | :) |
| 14:02 | is the second one cause I was RT'd? | |
| 14:03 | oleonard | I only see it once in #kohails search results |
| 14:06 | * oleonard | discovers he somehow unfollowed rangi on Twitter.. how did that happen? |
| 14:06 | eythian | ah, I'm in Lyon. Good to know. |
| 14:06 | magnuse | eythian: as long as you are headed in the right direction... :-) |
| 14:10 | oleonard | eythian: Wave to francharb_afk as you go by |
| 14:10 | eythian | If not, I think I'd be well into Germany by now :) |
| 14:10 | heh | |
| 14:11 | * francharb_afk | wave to eythian |
| 14:11 | francharb_afk | ;) |
| 14:11 | eythian | francharb_afk: sitting in Lyon Part-Duex right now |
| 14:11 | (it must be a sequel station or something) | |
| 14:11 | francharb_afk | eythian, how long do you stay in lyon? |
| 14:12 | eythian | francharb_afk: about 5-10 minutes, when the train starts moving again. |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Lyon Part-Deux: Lyonier |
| 14:12 | eythian | heh |
| 14:12 | francharb | to short to be your guide here |
| 14:12 | ;) | |
| 14:12 | eythian | afraid so :) |
| 14:12 | magnuse | bad planning ;-) |
| 14:13 | francharb | next time |
| 14:13 | wahanui | well, next time is in 87 years or something... ;-) |
| 14:13 | francharb | really? |
| 14:13 | wahanui | Of course! |
| 14:13 | francharb | ;) |
| 14:13 | hehe | |
| 14:14 | oleonard | I hope you can wait francharb |
| 14:16 | francharb | I will be 119 years old. I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try |
| 14:16 | ;) | |
| 14:17 | "I'm afraid my family lifetime is shorter but I can try" broken english of the day | |
| 14:17 | \0/ | |
| 14:17 | :) | |
| 14:17 | I go back to my xslt | |
| 14:17 | ;) | |
| 14:18 | oleonard | Your broken English > my broken French = you win ;) |
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| 14:19 | francharb | thank you |
| 14:19 | :) | |
| 14:19 | * cait | waves |
| 14:19 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e27b6163d2c6fd95a> / Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d24aa51f99425a78c> / Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p |
| 14:19 | * francharb | waves back to cait |
| 14:19 | francharb | ;) |
| 14:19 | cait | :) |
| 14:26 | eythian | It seems someone has added something that means if you have both google and amazon covers turned on, smart things happen (i.e. one of them gets hidden.) |
| 14:26 | However, in IE this causes a flash of doubled covers to show which vanishes after a moment. | |
| 14:27 | (If it's any consolation, every time an IE issue comes up, I am telling them that IE is the source of the issue and we're working around it for them :) | |
| 14:28 | cait | heh |
| 14:28 | good strategy | |
| 14:29 | I think the answer may be to turn off one? | |
| 14:29 | eythian | cait: yeah, I said that |
| 14:29 | though there is a better idea | |
| 14:29 | cait | never use ie? |
| 14:29 | eythian | load everything hidden, and unhide the things we want to show. |
| 14:30 | that's an even better idea. | |
| 14:30 | And I'm doing it ;) | |
| 14:30 | * cait | nods |
| 14:30 | cait | I only go into ie when I have to test something.... and I don't like doin git |
| 14:31 | oleonard | eythian: Can you confirm that someone has done something to hide redundant covers? |
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| 14:31 | * oleonard | had not heard of anything like that |
| 14:32 | cait | jcamins_away: ping? |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | HAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 14:32 | oleonard | |
| 14:32 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | you just cracked me up |
| 14:35 | tcohen | oleonard, do we have jqplot in koha? |
| 14:35 | oleonard | No |
| 14:35 | tcohen | when moving to 3.8 our users lost some nice reports with graphics I made for them |
| 14:36 | daily circulation reports | |
| 14:36 | i'll have to implement them again | |
| 14:36 | do u think jqplot is a goog squery library for that? would u recomend another one? | |
| 14:36 | cait | tcohen: there is a nice new feature for reports |
| 14:37 | tcohen | which feature? |
| 14:37 | cait | a web service that gives you json and caches it - I think you could use that as base for your reports maybe? |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 14:37 | cait | from sql reports |
| 14:37 | tcohen | oh |
| 14:37 | cait | it's very cool |
| 14:37 | * cait | intends to play lots with that as soon as we got 3.8 :) |
| 14:37 | cait | hm get |
| 14:37 | oleonard | tcohen: I don't have experience with any js charting library |
| 14:38 | tcohen | do u think including that in the koha interface could be handy for anyone? |
| 14:39 | oleonard | tcohen: Could it be integrated with custom reports? That would be really cool. |
| 14:40 | tcohen | ok |
| 14:41 | cait: where do I search for that webservices? | |
| 14:41 | cait | hm I think look for webservice in bugzilla maybe |
| 14:41 | I have a very slw internet connection here - it's a bit painful to look things up | |
| 14:43 | tcohen | bug 8256 |
| 14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8256 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Reports webservice should allow selection by name |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | no, but that is the feature |
| 14:45 | that's an enhancement for the feature | |
| 14:45 | what do you want to know about it? | |
| 14:45 | actually, brb - don't go away :) | |
| 14:48 | ok back | |
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| 14:53 | cait | wb eythian - train? |
| 14:54 | tcohen: I think the bug has some examples - baically you create an sql report, you can specify how long it should be cached and if you want it publicly accessible or not | |
| 14:54 | and then you only have to construct your URL as in the examples | |
| 14:54 | tcohen | right |
| 14:55 | will try and come back later! | |
| 14:55 | thanks! | |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #797: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/797/ |
| 14:55 | * dcook: Bug 7839 [ENH] : Add tab in patron record to show patron's routing lists | |
| 14:55 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7839 follow-up fixing HTML4 coding guideline error | |
| 14:55 | * meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Enhancement: Show routing lists attached to patron in Patron record |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8432: Change serials results display |
| 14:55 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8432 follow-up, fixing error in T::T variable scope | |
| 14:55 | * kyle: Bug 8427 - Patron search results not consistent | |
| 14:55 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup Move Babeltheque css into a specific file | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 7470 follow-up: adding comments to avoid removal of this file |
| 14:55 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7470: Followup: Changes mailto links | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8432 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Improvement of serials search results list |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | * elliott: Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl |
| 14:55 | * jcamins: Bug 8520: fix authority display in staff client | |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8427 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Patron search results not consistent |
| 14:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7470 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Babeltheque improvement and social networks links (like, +1,...) | |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 6720 follow-up: fix error when auth has been deleted |
| 14:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8520 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authorities display incorrectly in staff results |
| 14:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6720 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Saved authorities always show as 'Default' | |
| 14:55 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #798 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 28 days ago) |
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| 15:02 | eythian | yes |
| 15:02 | oleonard: in case I lost signal too early before: | |
| 15:02 | oleonard: I haven't checked the code, but it seems to be the case. | |
| 15:02 | my dev system has the two turned on in 3.8.3 and I'm not getting double ups | |
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| 15:03 | oleonard | eythian: I had two services turned on the other day and got double-ups. If someone changed something then it doesn't work for all of them |
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| 15:19 | libsysguy | oleonard are we using jquery ui dialog anywhere? |
| 15:19 | oleonard | Not yet |
| 15:20 | libsysguy | I'd like to use it, do you see any issues with that? |
| 15:20 | oleonard | No. I planned Bug 8290 but ran into obstacles. |
| 15:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8290 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Replace Greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog |
| 15:20 | oleonard | ...but those obstacles were with Greybox features, not jqueryUI itself |
| 15:21 | libsysguy | ahh ok, if I add it will it cause difficulties for you later |
| 15:21 | as far as rebasing etc? | |
| 15:21 | oleonard | No it won't |
| 15:21 | libsysguy | ok cool |
| 15:21 | cait | @later tell eythian running into the javascript problem in firefox now... |
| 15:21 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:21 | oleonard | But... |
| 15:21 | libsysguy | nowI just have to figure out how to add it :p |
| 15:21 | oleonard | libsysguy: Take note... |
| 15:22 | * libsysguy | is listening |
| 15:22 | * cait | listens too :) |
| 15:22 | oleonard | libsysguy: When I add a new jQueryUI dependency I use the "build custom download" tool on jQueryUI.com |
| 15:22 | cait | (take note sounds so important :) ) |
| 15:22 | oleonard | I haven't done good documentation on this process and I need to |
| 15:23 | when you add the updated jqueryUI library file it should contain the existing dependencies plus only the one you're adding | |
| 15:23 | So core+widget+mouse+position+autocomplete+tabs+datepicker + dialog | |
| 15:23 | libsysguy | can I not just add the dialog js file to the existing deps? |
| 15:24 | cait | @later tell eythian ... just ignore me... I turned javascript off to test something *sigh* |
| 15:24 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:24 | oleonard | libsysguy: They're all bundled into one file |
| 15:24 | libsysguy | oh…I thought you could pick and choose |
| 15:24 | http://jqueryui.com/download | |
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| 15:24 | cait | oleonard: is that to make them smaller? |
| 15:24 | libsysguy | oh i see, if you pick one you have to pick several |
| 15:25 | oleonard, do I just choose no theme? | |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Putting them all in one file reduces the number of http requests necessary |
| 15:25 | libsysguy: I've been using "smoothness" but I think it all gets overridden anyway | |
| 15:26 | libsysguy | i gotcha |
| 15:26 | i just don't want to hose the theming :p | |
| 15:26 | * oleonard | should work on documentation today to get all this out in the open |
| 15:26 | cait | oleonard: did you see? it looks like the menu will be in the next release of jquery ui |
| 15:26 | * nengard | didn't read the backlog ? but documentation writing is always welcome :) hehe |
| 15:26 | cait | oleonard: but I couldn't figure out when that will happen :( |
| 15:26 | oleonard | nengard: More like coding guidelines |
| 15:27 | nengard | meh |
| 15:27 | oleonard | cait: That's the problem |
| 15:27 | nengard | still good just not what i want :) hehe |
| 15:27 | oleonard | libsysguy: I'd be happy to help with theming |
| 15:27 | cait | oleonard: thought so :( but at least from the wiki it looks like menu is pretty much done |
| 15:27 | libsysguy | id like to investigate bootstrap |
| 15:28 | cait | libsysguy: you should talk with mtj |
| 15:28 | libsysguy | but there are a lot of things id like to investigate given the time |
| 15:28 | * libsysguy | has cait ;) |
| 15:28 | cait | libsysguy: he was working on that recently for the opac :) |
| 15:28 | ah ok :) | |
| 15:28 | so ignore me | |
| 15:28 | :P | |
| 15:29 | libsysguy | mtj saw that I was looking into theming and said hey wait :p |
| 15:29 | cait | did he show you his prototype? |
| 15:29 | oleonard | Better to tell libsysguy something he already knows than for him to find out he's spent hours developing the seventh or eighth implementation of a mobile OPAC |
| 15:29 | cait | oleonard: :) |
| 15:29 | libsysguy | cait yes he did |
| 15:29 | it looks awesome | |
| 15:29 | cait | rambutan: you can check with hlt if you want to make sure I think |
| 15:29 | libsysguy | and oleonard yes very much so |
| 15:30 | also oleonard, do I put the single file for dialog from the development file into the plugins folder for koha | |
| 15:30 | then just replace jquery-ui.js | |
| 15:31 | oleonard | libsysguy: No single file for dialog. Re-build the jquery-ui.js file and include the dialog widget. |
| 15:31 | libsysguy | ok oleonard |
| 15:31 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 15:33 | oleonard | Thanks for the update wahanui |
| 15:35 | libsysguy | oleonard: I don't mean to beat you down with questions but I have one more |
| 15:35 | oleonard | Of course |
| 15:35 | libsysguy | is jquery-ui included in one of the included header files or do I need to include it in the file I'm working on |
| 15:36 | oleonard | It is included globally now |
| 15:36 | libsysguy | sweet |
| 15:36 | off to test my new dialog then :p | |
| 15:36 | oleonard | libsysguy: What will you use dialog for? |
| 15:37 | libsysguy | holiday, to create a form based on what kind of recurrence you are setting up |
| 15:37 | * libsysguy | is building out recurrences to work similar to google calendar |
| 15:38 | oleonard | libsysguy: Does it replace the expanding panel the holidays page uses now? |
| 15:38 | libsysguy | only part of it |
| 15:38 | i can have it replace the whole thing | |
| 15:38 | * libsysguy | is now worried |
| 15:39 | oleonard | Seems weird to have two different "show me a new panel" type interaction on the same page |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | I had the click date expand the panel and removed all the verbage at the bottom for repeating holidays and replaced it with a checkbox for repeat. |
| 15:40 | checking the box will allow open the box | |
| 15:40 | jcamins | cait: just got back. |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | but I can have the dropdown open in the form as well |
| 15:40 | jcamins | Will look at your feedback and incorporate it. |
| 15:40 | cait | jcamins: that's ok :) |
| 15:41 | i left you gazillions of messages :P | |
| 15:41 | working on the see also now | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | The Did you mean feature is pretty rough, but I wanted someone other than me to look at it and give me opinions. |
| 15:41 | cait | useicu seems to make a difference if my an index searches work or not |
| 15:41 | jcamins: actually I don't think it's rough at all | |
| 15:41 | I enjoyed testing :) I think the small glitch will be easy to fix | |
| 15:42 | it's very fast too | |
| 15:42 | much faster than I expected it to be | |
| 15:42 | and I love that you included a fallback for when javascript is deactivated | |
| 15:43 | jcamins | cait: now that you describe the results of your testing, I understand why you got the error message about the SHA-1 information. |
| 15:43 | cait | waiting for my reindex to finish :) |
| 15:43 | jcamins: not sure i do | |
| 15:44 | jcamins | cait: that patch de facto reverted a previous change. |
| 15:44 | cait | i git pulled this morning, and it didn't apply, I tested on a new branch this afternoon |
| 15:44 | jcamins | On my system it worked, because I have every popssible combination of authorities patches in every order. |
| 15:44 | So it was able to make stuff up. ;) | |
| 15:44 | cait | oh |
| 15:44 | that sounds complicated :) | |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | this thing where the overdues report doesn't list the patron name is really harshing my mellow. |
| 15:44 | in the export, I mean | |
| 15:45 | cait | hm |
| 15:45 | on master? | |
| 15:45 | I thought there was a patch from kyle for that, but I might be mistaken | |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | there is |
| 15:45 | cait | and it doesn't work still? :( |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | just we don't have it |
| 15:45 | and we won't get it for a while | |
| 15:45 | cait | oh |
| 15:45 | jcamins | cait: I need a hint. |
| 15:45 | What is the typo? | |
| 15:45 | cait | )) |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | because I do circ, and i'm not super confident about 3.8 yet. |
| 15:46 | cait | as a programmer... you should be sensitive to that :P |
| 15:46 | jcamins | It's in a string. |
| 15:46 | cait | wizzyrea: I undertand, you are stuck :( |
| 15:46 | jcamins | My parser is turned off whenever it hits quotes. |
| 15:46 | cait | wizzyrea: you could remodel one with sql reports? |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | and we can't go up in the 3.6 series |
| 15:46 | yea, sure I could | |
| 15:46 | cait | why can't you go up in 3.6? |
| 15:46 | jcamins | cait: buttons? |
| 15:47 | cait | the HASH things looked like buttons |
| 15:47 | jcamins | I didn't use buttons. |
| 15:47 | Ah. | |
| 15:47 | I will change the styling to look less button-y. | |
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| 15:49 | cait | jcamins: I think I kinda expected normal links, like the links in the records and in other places |
| 15:49 | jcamins | I guess you don't like the border. |
| 15:49 | cait | I don't know exactly if that's the best way of displaying the suggestions... maybe we need oleonard :) |
| 15:49 | nope | |
| 15:49 | and the shadow | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | oleonard: |
| 15:49 | cait | if there is one, might be the browser |
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| 15:50 | jcamins | oleeeoooonnnnnaaaaaarrrrrrdddddddddd!!!! We need you! Help us, oh wise UI expert! |
| 15:50 | oleonard | Lay it on me. |
| 15:50 | * cait | sends cookies |
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| 15:51 | JoeLib001 | Hello. :-) |
| 15:51 | jcamins | We need advice on what the suggestions in this page should be formatted as: http://screencast.com/t/gzA9ExcCx |
| 15:51 | libsysguy | blah the dialog needs some theming…as is looks like poop |
| 15:51 | jcamins | That's with border. |
| 15:51 | oleonard: http://screencast.com/t/XKJR7kjBfKb <-- that is without a border | |
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| 15:52 | oleonard | I think plain links would be fine if the box stood out more |
| 15:52 | tcohen | what's the best way to batch modify biblio records? |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Ah-ha! That's what I was missing. How should I make it stand out more? |
| 15:53 | tcohen: depends what you want to do. | |
| 15:53 | tcohen | I introduced the use of RELTERMS |
| 15:53 | and need to fix records so they use the same coded value | |
| 15:53 | oleonard | tcohen: Work on Bug 5725? ;) |
| 15:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5725 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, laurence.lefaucheur, Patch doesn't apply , Batch modifications for Biblios |
| 15:53 | JoeLib001 | Only way I have batch modified biblio records is with MARCEdit. |
| 15:53 | * jcamins | generally exports everything, modifies with a script, then overlays. |
| 15:54 | tcohen | thanks oleonard |
| 15:54 | jcamins: can that be done in a safe manner? | |
| 15:55 | JoeLib001 | jcamins: I got my Git Install working. I applied the patch and it works. |
| 15:57 | jcamins | tcohen: yup. Just overlay on biblionumber. |
| 15:57 | JoeLib001: excellent! Time to sign off on it! | |
| 15:57 | git? | |
| 15:57 | wahanui | i heard git was http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 15:57 | jcamins | The page that wahanui is not referring you to has instructions on how to do that. |
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| 15:57 | jcamins | There we go. That page. |
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| 15:58 | tcohen | jcamins: is that an option for bulkmarcimport? |
| 15:58 | jcamins | tcohen: I don't think so. I always use a matching rule with stage_records and commit_records. |
| 15:59 | I have to ask druthb for an example bulkmarcimport command line every time I want to use it. | |
| 15:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #798: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/798/ |
| 15:59 | * kyle: Bug 4198 - deleting an authority refreshes the page | |
| 15:59 | * kyle: Bug 4198 - Followup - PerlTidy authorities-home.pl | |
| 15:59 | * mtj: Bug 8463 - Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test | |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4198 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , deleting an authority refreshes the page |
| 15:59 | Morthland11 | My OPAC seems to have some sort of localization. |
| 15:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8463 major, P1 - high, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , Koha/SearchEngine/Solr/Search.pm fails perlcritic test |
| 15:59 | tcohen | thanks jcamins |
| 16:00 | Morthland11 | My OPAC cannot be reached on the internet out of town. |
| 16:00 | jcamins | @later tell mtj Ping me when you're around? I've run into trouble with the layout of the "Powered by Koha" code, and I don't want to fix it in a way that ruins the idea. |
| 16:00 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Morthland11: that sounds like an Apache/network configuration issue. |
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| 16:01 | jcamins | Morthland11: or, more likely, your server is down and it just so happens you're out of town. ;) |
| 16:01 | Morthland11 | Ha. No, I'm not out of town. |
| 16:01 | I called Amazon support, | |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | your DNS is incorrect? |
| 16:02 | Morthland11 | and they couldn't access it. |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | or not propagating correctly? |
| 16:02 | Morthland11 | I can access it from home, |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | can you ping the server by name? |
| 16:02 | Morthland11 | outside of the local network. |
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| 16:02 | wizzyrea | right, but you are still in the same ISP? |
| 16:02 | Morthland11 | Yes. |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | or you are using the same DNS servers? |
| 16:02 | yea probably DNS then | |
| 16:02 | Morthland11 | likely the same IP |
| 16:03 | I doubt it, | |
| 16:03 | I have forwarding from GoDaddy, | |
| 16:03 | and the Amazon guy gets my IP address and Port. | |
| 16:03 | our OPAC is at http://opac.morthland.org | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Morthland11: I am confused. You called Amazon to troubleshoot a local server? |
| 16:03 | wizzyrea | works from Kansas |
| 16:04 | jcamins | I thought you were hosted on AWS? |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | and search works and all of that |
| 16:04 | jcamins | The OPAC works fine. |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | it does redirect to an IP/Port combo |
| 16:04 | Morthland11 | huh. |
| 16:04 | Well, | |
| 16:04 | Maybe the problem is solved. | |
| 16:04 | I don' | |
| 16:04 | t | |
| 16:04 | * wizzyrea | whispers "DNS" |
| 16:05 | Morthland11 | know that I've done anything. |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | also, I think you want to set up name hosts on your server |
| 16:05 | because then your urls will be prety | |
| 16:05 | pretty | |
| 16:05 | Morthland11 | How would DNS be the issue? doesn't DNS just resolve the opac.morthland.org? |
| 16:05 | I've been wondering how to do that. | |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | if it's not propagating everywhere, or a particular ISP's DNS servers aren't updating from the root |
| 16:06 | it won't | |
| 16:06 | it does happen sometimes. | |
| 16:06 | Morthland11 | How can I fix that? |
| 16:06 | oleonard | jcamins: Maybe a milder version of the stock "alert" dialog? http://screencast.com/t/54aguGV0 Or maybe that stands out /too/ much |
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| 16:06 | wizzyrea | you can't |
| 16:06 | Morthland11 | Just have to wait? |
| 16:06 | wizzyrea | but you can have the people complaining call their ISP |
| 16:06 | say "I can't resolve this URL but it works from the rest of the internet" | |
| 16:07 | and they'll call their DNS guy, and he'll go, OH GOD MY SERVERS ARE BORKED WE ARE RUNING ON STALE CACHES and fix it ;) | |
| 16:07 | mib_n2ebz7 | Hello - can anyone confirm (or not!) if the publication sort on Koha is derived from the 260 tag or the 008? Or is is customisable? Koha 3.6 |
| 16:07 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe a little too much, but definitely better. |
| 16:07 | Morthland11 | Can you link me to some help with this name servers issue? |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Morthland11: just google "dns propagation" |
| 16:08 | Morthland11 | * name hosts |
| 16:08 | jcamins | mib_n2ebz7: checking now. |
| 16:09 | mib_n2ebz7 | jcamins: thanks! |
| 16:09 | jcamins | mib_n2ebz7: sorts on 008. |
| 16:09 | oleonard: any suggestions how to make it milder? | |
| 16:10 | mib_n2ebz7 | jcamins: That is what I thought - damn. Thanks though. Just need to find a way to move tags to sort correctly! |
| 16:10 | jcamins | oleonard: actually, what if I posted the revised patch, so you could take a look if you were so inclined. |
| 16:11 | oleonard | I could try, but I've got like two authority records total. |
| 16:11 | jcamins | oleonard: well, do a search that returns one of them. ;) |
| 16:12 | cait | oleonard: his tests are using 1 record :P |
| 16:13 | Morthland11 | I mean, |
| 16:13 | how can I make my urls pretty? | |
| 16:13 | francharb | see ya all |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | set up named virtualhosts |
| 16:13 | jcamins | Revised patch attached to bug 8209. |
| 16:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , "Did you mean?" suggestions based on authorities |
| 16:14 | oleonard | Toned down: http://screencast.com/t/ZEd4ekv9 And I think I like it better left-justified? |
| 16:14 | jcamins | Ooh, yes, I like that. |
| 16:15 | Now, what CSS did you use to get something like that? | |
| 16:15 | Morthland11 | like here? |
| 16:15 | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]s/name-based.html | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | Morthland11: yes. |
| 16:16 | cait: actually, don't pull down the new version of bug 8209 yet. I'd prefer to amend the patch with the good CSS. | |
| 16:16 | JoeLib001 | jcamins: I have looked at that page. I don't know what I am looking for for signing off on something. |
| 16:17 | cait | oleonard: jcamins: maybe make the .. hm spacing between terms a bit wider? |
| 16:17 | or use some kind of separator | |
| 16:17 | but I think a bit of blank space would be nicer | |
| 16:18 | jcamins | JoeLib001: you're right. It isn't on that page. |
| 16:18 | Sorry! | |
| 16:18 | JoeLib001: I am looking for the page where the instructions *are*. | |
| 16:18 | signing off is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches | |
| 16:18 | signing off? | |
| 16:18 | wahanui | signing off is a great idea! |
| 16:18 | JoeLib001 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches ? |
| 16:18 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 16:18 | JoeLib001 | Ah, there. |
| 16:18 | wahanui | somebody said ah, there was none I think or another factor |
| 16:19 | jcamins | signing off is also at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 16:19 | wahanui | okay, jcamins. |
| 16:19 | jcamins | signing off? |
| 16:19 | wahanui | hmmm... signing off is a great idea! or at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches |
| 16:24 | JoeLib001 | So all I need to do is run: git format-patch -s --subject-prefix='PATCH] [SIGNED-OFF' origin/master |
| 16:25 | jcamins | JoeLib001: actually, you can just do `git format-patch -s -1`, then attach the file it creates to bugzilla. |
| 16:27 | I like the yellow you came up with, oleonard. What color was it? | |
| 16:27 | oleonard | border-color #F4ECBE, background-color #FFFBEA |
| 16:28 | * cait | waits for another reindex to finish |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Yes, that's very nice. |
| 16:29 | border-radius of... 3px? | |
| 16:29 | cait | oh, rounded corners! |
| 16:29 | oleonard | Yup |
| 16:30 | margin: .5em 0; padding: .5em; | |
| 16:34 | nengard | can someone point me to the bug report that caused this to change: |
| 16:34 | "Prior to Koha 3.8 - Items in a record displayed in Alphabetical order by | |
| 16:34 | "Current Location" in the staff client. Now they are alphabetical by "Home | |
| 16:34 | Branch"." | |
| 16:34 | jcamins | nengard: you reported the bug, but I don't remember exactly which one it is. |
| 16:34 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:34 | well that might help with the search | |
| 16:34 | :) | |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Chances are good that I objected. |
| 16:35 | nengard | but 7271 |
| 16:35 | cait | hm didn't wizzyrea do something about item searching? |
| 16:35 | nengard | bug 7271 |
| 16:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7271 normal, P3, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Stable , Revert getitems default sort to homebranch instead of holding branch |
| 16:35 | nengard | yep it was wizzy not me |
| 16:35 | if that's it | |
| 16:36 | and jcamins did not object | |
| 16:36 | he pushed it to 3.6.5 | |
| 16:36 | :) | |
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| 16:37 | jcamins | I objected to the side effect of bug 6600, but looks like I dealt with it by telling wizzyrea to fix it.. |
| 16:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6600 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Library name linking wrong if current location is different |
| 16:37 | * jcamins | likes this way of solving problems. |
| 16:37 | jcamins | wizzyrea: fix it! :D |
| 16:38 | * jcamins | leaves wizzyrea to determine what needs fixing. |
| 16:40 | jcamins | cait++ |
| 16:41 | cait | and I meant sorting not searching... |
| 16:41 | *sigh* | |
| 16:41 | hope you all read what I meant :) | |
| 16:42 | jcamins: moving on to bug 6617 | |
| 16:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , table of contents not printing right if entered right |
| 16:42 | cait | can you give me some hints about cataloguing? |
| 16:42 | oleonard | wahanui: forget ah, there |
| 16:42 | wahanui | oleonard: I forgot ah, there |
| 16:43 | cait | ah, I see there is some on the bug |
| 16:45 | jcamins | oleonard: cait: http://screencast.com/t/nkfkpNbTgyBG |
| 16:45 | * oleonard | likes that |
| 16:45 | * jcamins | too. |
| 16:46 | JoeLib001 | Ok, I think I did it. http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]a3/attachment.cgi |
| 16:46 | cait | I am still waiting for the picture :) |
| 16:46 | sloooow internet | |
| 16:47 | JoeLib001 | Woops. |
| 16:47 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8550 | |
| 16:47 | huginn | 04Bug 8550: normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Z39.50 searches for ISBN/ISSN problematic |
| 16:47 | jcamins | JoeLib001: now mark that bug "Signed off," and it'll be ready for QA. |
| 16:47 | :) | |
| 16:47 | JoeLib001 | There we go. :-) |
| 16:48 | oleonard | jcamins: So the "not what you expected" box loads in the HTML, then is replaced with the actual results by JS |
| 16:49 | cait | jcamins: it won't load the pic :( I will check from home |
| 16:49 | I think I should go and check if my bike is still there :) | |
| 16:49 | will be back in around 30 min I think | |
| 16:49 | JoeLib001 | Cool. :-) So, now it goes through QA processing and an official patch will be released? |
| 16:50 | jcamins | oleonard: right. |
| 16:50 | cait | JoeLib001: QA looks at it and maybe adds another sign off |
| 16:50 | then next is RM, who might also add a sign-off | |
| 16:50 | but it will probably not be a different patch really :) | |
| 16:50 | JoeLib001 | Gotcha. |
| 16:50 | cait | and then it gets pushed to master (what will be 3.10) and after that if it's a bug to 3.8 and 3.6.x too |
| 16:50 | JoeLib001 | So, it's in the loop. :-) |
| 16:50 | cait | yep |
| 16:51 | bbl :) | |
| 16:51 | oleonard | jcamins: I think the box should be removed if there are no suggestions. |
| 16:52 | jcamins: I also don't like the lag between the start of page load and whatever is going to happen in that box. I wonder if that could be handled differently. | |
| 16:53 | jcamins | oleonard: you're the one who told me not to move content! |
| 16:53 | :P | |
| 16:53 | oleonard | ? |
| 16:54 | jcamins | When I proposed doing that, you said "don't shift the content by adding or removing the suggestion box." |
| 16:54 | Or something along those lines. | |
| 16:54 | oleonard | I did? |
| 16:54 | jcamins | I think so. |
| 16:54 | Someone did, and I gave it all the weight that I would give you. | |
| 16:54 | * oleonard | will insist he didn't until presented with IRC logs |
| 16:55 | jcamins | The problem with not doing it via AJAX is that the alternative would be to make every single search slower. |
| 16:56 | oleonard | I don't see a problem with doing it via AJAX since there's a non-JS-dependent fallback. |
| 16:56 | jcamins | But there will always be a delay with AJAX. |
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| 16:57 | oleonard | I'm picturing now having the box hidden by default and only shown if there are AJAX results...but I'm not sure how you accommodate the non-js users |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:58 | How about we leave it as it is for now and get more opinions, because I'm sure that's what I initially suggested and was shot down on. | |
| 16:59 | oleonard | Sure, especially if that helps track down my evil twin |
| 17:00 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 17:02 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5884cb2311187d40a> / Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]713eb625b4b967f3a> / Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]089b1151f5d9222e7 |
| 17:03 | JoeLib001 | jcamins: Thanks for the help. :-) Now I get to go do something less fun. ;-) |
| 17:04 | Morthland11 | I can't seem to figure out this Named Virtual Host issue. |
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| 17:06 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #799 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 29 days ago) |
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| 17:42 | nengard | i don't see a bug for this - but i know it's a bug - does anyone know of a bug for forgive fines at check in not forgiving fines? |
| 17:42 | Like I said I thought I knew it was a bug but don't see a report | |
| 17:43 | jcamins | Sounds familiar. |
| 17:43 | nengard | yeah |
| 17:43 | that's why it's bugging me | |
| 17:43 | i found this http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5216 | |
| 17:43 | huginn | 04Bug 5216: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, ASSIGNED , Returning lost material with Forgive Fines does not forgive overdue charges |
| 17:43 | nengard | but that's just with lost items ? but i think it's all items |
| 17:43 | jcamins | I think melia reported a bug relating to dropbox mode. |
| 17:43 | cait | I think it included that |
| 17:43 | the forgiving fines - and she was told it was a different proble than the wrong due date | |
| 17:44 | nengard | okay |
| 17:44 | cait | the bug should have a reference to another bug maybe |
| 17:44 | nengard | let's see if i can find that ;) |
| 17:44 | melia | the ones I looked at were 5644 and and 8338 |
| 17:44 | nengard | yeah those are it |
| 17:44 | cait | oh hi melia :) |
| 17:44 | nengard | i just looked |
| 17:44 | aren't | |
| 17:44 | those aren't it | |
| 17:44 | melia | hi :) |
| 17:44 | cait | hope I remembered correctly |
| 17:45 | nengard | I'm gonna report one and if it's wrong someone can mark it a dup |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Boy, reindexing 100k+ records is boring. |
| 17:59 | cait | heh |
| 18:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #799: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/799/ |
| 18:10 | * dcook: Bug 8455 - Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences | |
| 18:10 | * kyle: Bug 8455 - Followup - perltidy renewscript.pl | |
| 18:10 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 8477: Displays home/holding branches on return page | |
| 18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8455 normal, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Master , Check ins processed through "Check Out" tab of the Patron Record ignore Circulation System Preferences |
| 18:10 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: bug 8477 follow-up for [HTML4] coding guideline |
| 18:10 | * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [3/3] EAN-13 barcode labels | |
| 18:10 | * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [1/3] EAN-13/UPC-A itemBarcodeInputFilter | |
| 18:10 | * dpavlin: Bug 6448 [2/3] Barcodes::EAN13 autoBarcode | |
| 18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8477 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Display home & holding branches when checking in |
| 18:10 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 6448 follow-up, DBrev number |
| 18:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6448 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , EAN-13 barcode support |
| 18:10 | jcamins | nengard: I'm rebasing bug 6617 now. |
| 18:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6617 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Patch doesn't apply , table of contents not printing right if entered right |
| 18:11 | nengard | woo hoo |
| 18:11 | :) | |
| 18:11 | wanted that for years now | |
| 18:11 | can't wait to sign off | |
| 18:13 | oleonard | jcamins: DidYouMeanFromAuthorities pref is only for OPAC? |
| 18:13 | jcamins | oleonard: yes. |
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| 18:14 | oleonard | I wonder if the pref name should be OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities just to be clear. At the very least the description should say OPAC I think |
| 18:14 | jcamins | oleonard: I'll do a follow-up adding it to the staff client. The markup is a bit different, and I figured it made more sense to start with one. |
| 18:14 | oleonard | Then I definitely think this first patch should create "OPACDidYouMeanFromAuthorities" |
| 18:15 | Since there will be one for the staff client | |
| 18:16 | nengard | jcamins still doesn't work .. it applies but now my toc is replaced with the word Test |
| 18:16 | it's still in the Marc though | |
| 18:17 | jcamins | And have two sysprefs? |
| 18:17 | I can do that. | |
| 18:17 | But not right this moment because I am reindexing in a different branch. | |
| 18:17 | With the word "Test"? | |
| 18:17 | I wonder what patch I just attached to the bug. | |
| 18:17 | You're sure it says "Test" with that capitalization? | |
| 18:17 | "Test" does not appear anywhere in the patch. | |
| 18:18 | Screenshot please? :) | |
| 18:18 | Oh, and you did an Alt-refresh to reload the CSS, right? | |
| 18:18 | oleonard | Shift-refresh |
| 18:19 | jcamins | oleonard: except on a Mac, where Shift doesn't reload the CSS, apparently? |
| 18:19 | oleonard | ? |
| 18:19 | * jcamins | was told that at some point, and, not being sure which was true, just uses Alt-Shift-refresh. |
| 18:20 | eythian | jcamins: ctrl-shift-f5 in some browsers, innit? |
| 18:21 | oleonard | ctrl-shift-F5-~-Scroll lock-secrethandshake |
| 18:22 | jcamins | eythian: okay, I confess... I actually just hold down all the modifier keys when I hit refresh. |
| 18:22 | No scroll lock on the Mac laptop keyboard. | |
| 18:23 | eythian | I have pentadactyl installed. "R" is force reload in that which is handy. |
| 18:23 | ("r" is regular reload) | |
| 18:24 | jcamins | nengard: note that the MARC standard requires you to enter punctuation into the record. It is not to be supplied by the ILS. |
| 18:25 | nengard | okay - but if i don't do punctuation it should still show it |
| 18:25 | not have it blank | |
| 18:25 | it showed it before | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Per the commit message, I removed the 505 from the notes tab since it already appears in the XSLT. |
| 18:26 | You said it still appears in the XSLT, same as before, right? | |
| 18:26 | nengard | right |
| 18:27 | and does it remove it from the notes even if xslt is off? | |
| 18:27 | jcamins | No. |
| 18:27 | nengard | I think it should be in both places always |
| 18:27 | people can customize their XSLT and CSS if they want and I know people who are removing it from the top CSLT | |
| 18:27 | jcamins | Okay, I can do that easily enough. |
| 18:27 | nengard | XSLT |
| 18:28 | but, anyway, nothing has changed in the staff client | |
| 18:28 | checking the opac now | |
| 18:28 | jcamins | When I was at ByWater, I remember a lot of people complaining about it showing up *in* the Notes tab. |
| 18:28 | Hence the removal. | |
| 18:28 | nengard | in the opac it looks the same |
| 18:28 | jcamins | And you have an enhanced 505? ind2=0? |
| 18:29 | nengard | I have two 505s in the staff it shows them both but one is blank (the title/author one) in the opac the formatted one shows but there is no title/author one |
| 18:29 | let me do a video | |
| 18:29 | * oleonard | requests "Take on me" by A-Ha. |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Sounds like you may not have the indicator 2 set correctly. Now that you point it out, I realize that I made an almost certainly unreasonable assumption that it would be correct. |
| 18:30 | Good point. | |
| 18:30 | nengard | okay it was the indicator - in the opac it look like it will be nice, but if it's the second toc it's smooching it to the first :) screenshot coming |
| 18:31 | jcamins | nengard: you have two 505 fields with the same contents. |
| 18:31 | nengard | jcamins see the bug |
| 18:32 | jcamins | nengard: yes, I just looked at the screen shot. |
| 18:32 | nengard | and yes I do, but only for testing - the 505 is a repeatable fieldand might have diff contents in each |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Oh, wait, there's more. |
| 18:32 | :) | |
| 18:32 | nengard | the last library i trained had 4 505 fields on one record |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Yes, often there will be dozens. |
| 18:32 | Where they are continuations of each other. | |
| 18:32 | The "Contents:" label implies that the contents are separate. | |
| 18:33 | I suppose I could make it "Contents (continued):" | |
| 18:33 | Better? | |
| 18:33 | nengard | i'm lost |
| 18:33 | i see the contents label only once | |
| 18:33 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 18:33 | That was intentional. | |
| 18:33 | nengard | oh okay |
| 18:33 | that's fine if the label is there only once, but we need some spacing between them | |
| 18:33 | right now the second starts on the same line the first left off | |
| 18:33 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 18:34 | I see. | |
| 18:34 | nengard | :) |
| 18:34 | jcamins | Sorry, I was looking at the next line, which looks perfectly correct to me. |
| 18:34 | nengard | bingo |
| 18:34 | in the staff it doesn't have the fancy formatting at all, but doesn't run in to the previous TOC | |
| 18:34 | jcamins | As for the intranet, I didn't update it yet because this is mostly CSS, so better to agree on the formatting before I put it in two places. |
| 18:34 | nengard | got it! |
| 18:35 | so i'd say put it back in the title notes just cause people will complain | |
| 18:35 | and then add spacing and it will be perfect | |
| 18:37 | * jcamins | doesn't generally submit patches fait accompli. What's the point of having a community if you're not going to intimidate them until they give you feedback? ;) |
| 18:37 | jcamins | Uhhh... that is... |
| 18:37 | have some fudge? | |
| 18:37 | Gotcha. | |
| 18:39 | nengard | :) |
| 18:41 | jcamins your patch also did something strange with the cover images | |
| 18:41 | it made it so that only the title floated to the right of the cover | |
| 18:41 | jcamins | With the cover images? |
| 18:41 | nengard | and the rest was below |
| 18:41 | in the opac | |
| 18:41 | eythian | nengard: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]html#mergebibrecs -- "Merging will only work with two items that use the same bibliographic framework." ... "If the records were created using different frameworks, Koha will also ask you what Framework you would like the newly merged record to use." |
| 18:41 | nengard | i just checked master and now it's a-ok but when i was looking at your patch it wasn't |
| 18:42 | eythian, thanks that was a new dev in 3.8 and i didn't update the text! :) | |
| 18:42 | doing it now | |
| 18:42 | eythian | nengard: it doesn't appear to ever ask for the framework now |
| 18:42 | cool :) | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Odd. I don't see that. |
| 18:42 | nengard | jcamins i use openlibrary if that matters |
| 18:42 | eythian - wait are you saying it doesn't ask which framework anymore? | |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Probably. |
| 18:42 | nengard | if you have two of different frameworks? |
| 18:43 | if you have two of the same it doesn't ask | |
| 18:43 | eythian | nengard: my client is saying that, I haven't checked. If you have two the same it doesn't ask. I'll test it now,. |
| 18:44 | nengard | if you have two of the same it shouldn't ask - if you have two diff it should |
| 18:44 | or did when i wrote that :) | |
| 18:44 | eythian | nengard: I just checked, you are correct. |
| 18:44 | two different does ask. | |
| 18:45 | nengard | whew |
| 18:45 | okay removing that note | |
| 18:46 | changes pushed - they'll be live tomorrow | |
| 18:46 | eythian do you have the power to refresh the db schema page? | |
| 18:46 | eythian | I don't think so |
| 18:46 | nengard | it was last updated in May and needs some new info |
| 18:46 | meh | |
| 18:46 | :( | |
| 18:47 | eythian | oh maybe |
| 18:47 | nengard | ooo |
| 18:48 | eythian | hmm weird |
| 18:48 | nengard | ? |
| 18:48 | eythian | I have access to the server, but I can't see schema on there... |
| 18:48 | * eythian | looks more |
| 18:49 | eythian | ahh, nginx, not apache |
| 18:50 | > robin is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | |
| 18:50 | nope, I don't have the power. | |
| 18:51 | rangi does | |
| 18:51 | cait | you got reported - uhoh |
| 18:51 | :) | |
| 18:51 | * eythian | flees to Europe to hide |
| 18:51 | jcamins | nengard: in order to get this to play nicely with a previous non-enhanced TOC, I have to add a carriage return between the label "Contents:" and the actually contents. Thoughts on indenting it to make it more clear? |
| 18:51 | eythian | oh wait |
| 18:52 | cait | lol |
| 18:53 | nengard | i like the idea of an indent |
| 18:54 | rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes | |
| 18:54 | @later tell rangi eythian says you're the only one with the power to update schema.k-c.org ? can you do that? It's months out of date and there are new db changes | |
| 18:54 | huginn | nengard: The operation succeeded. |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Good, 'cause that's what you're getting. |
| 18:54 | nengard | :) |
| 18:55 | cait | eythian: back in marseille now? |
| 18:55 | eythian | cait: yep |
| 18:55 | it's warm here. | |
| 18:55 | cait | yeah it's warm here too |
| 18:55 | was in the city today, but got tired of walking around pretty fast | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Ooh, the indent makes it a lot easier to read. |
| 18:56 | eythian | cait: you should have walked slower then. |
| 18:56 | cait | trust me, i was slow |
| 18:56 | i would have fallen over if walking any slower | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | I am making the assumption that anyone who sets indicator 2 knows what they are doing, but anyone who doesn't has even odds of getting it wrong. |
| 18:59 | nengard: try the new patch? | |
| 18:59 | And remember it is OPAC-only until we agree. | |
| 18:59 | nengard | okey dokey |
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| 19:02 | nengard | jcamins bug updated |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Oh, wow. |
| 19:03 | That's really weird. | |
| 19:03 | You said you are using open library? | |
| 19:04 | cait | can someone check a record without items in staff? detail page? |
| 19:04 | jcamins | I don't get any embedded search screens, but there was a bug about a 7xx field causing it. |
| 19:04 | Since fixed. | |
| 19:05 | So this is probably another field causing the problem. | |
| 19:05 | mbalmer | is Jorgias ubuntu laptop now usable? |
| 19:05 | jcamins | mbalmer: who? Huh? |
| 19:05 | cait | mbalmer: I think it is, but haven't seen her |
| 19:06 | mbalmer | perfect. |
| 19:06 | I guess it was missing firmware. | |
| 19:06 | cait | probably |
| 19:06 | so someone can check? please? :) | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:08 | I'm not sure I like OpenLibrary covers. | |
| 19:08 | However, I fixed the problem. | |
| 19:08 | oleonard | cait: What's the problem? |
| 19:08 | wahanui | the problem is probably its human beings doing it |
| 19:09 | pastebot | "eythian" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "nengard: suggested manual content change" (7 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/70 |
| 19:09 | * oleonard | winks knowingly at wahanui |
| 19:09 | eythian | nengard: a client got a little confused by the word 'show' when it doesn't actually show you. |
| 19:09 | cait | the item tab is... messed up badly |
| 19:09 | nengard | okey dokey |
| 19:09 | eythian | ta :) |
| 19:10 | jcamins | nengard: new patch uploaded. |
| 19:11 | nengard | eythian change made and pushed - live tomorrow |
| 19:11 | jcamins checking now | |
| 19:11 | eythian | nengard: cheers :) |
| 19:12 | nengard | jcamins almost ? new screenshot coming |
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| 19:22 | nengard | jcamins how can you not like open library???? the other choices are amazon and google - both trying to take over the world |
| 19:22 | open library is free and open and good | |
| 19:23 | jcamins | nengard: I use my own pictures. |
| 19:23 | And they don't cover other elements of the page. | |
| 19:23 | nengard | for libraries with 10s of thousands of titles that'a a lot of images to take :) |
| 19:24 | jcamins | Yes, that is true. |
| 19:25 | But I still prefer the local cover images/Google books javascript. | |
| 19:26 | Incidentally, have I mentioned recently how much I *hate* CSS? | |
| 19:27 | cait | ok, no real problem all - it#s my German data |
| 19:27 | jcamins | Just for everyone's amusement: http://screencast.com/t/yWpGQ6b9J2z |
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| 19:33 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:34 | eythian | hiya |
| 19:35 | rangi | nengard: I'll update the schema when I've pushed those changes to 3.8.x |
| 19:36 | jcamins | And now I can't get the indent back. |
| 19:36 | nengard | thanks rangi! |
| 19:36 | although some of those fields were 3.10 fields only | |
| 19:36 | i think | |
| 19:36 | rangi | Since we link to it in koha, I don't run it off master |
| 19:37 | Yeah that's why not done yet | |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 19:37 | Figured it out. | |
| 19:37 | rangi | Otherwise ppl running 3.8 |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Remember how I said I didn't like OpenLibrary's Javascript? |
| 19:37 | rangi | Get confused |
| 19:37 | jcamins | Well I reeeeaaaalllllyyyyyy don't like OL's javascript. |
| 19:38 | rangi | I don't think it's theirs |
| 19:38 | It's ours | |
| 19:38 | jcamins | rangi: no, I don't blame them. |
| 19:38 | I mean, not the organization. | |
| 19:38 | It just wrecks havoc on CSS. | |
| 19:39 | The GB javascript you wrote works much better. :) | |
| 19:39 | rangi | Yeah but we wrote it |
| 19:39 | jcamins | I know. |
| 19:39 | rangi | Just to the logs it looks like it's theirs |
| 19:39 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:40 | FTR, I dislike our implementation of OpenLibrary covers. I have nothing against the OpenLibrary project. | |
| 19:40 | rangi | :-) |
| 19:40 | I think I wrote that too, originally | |
| 19:40 | Based on gb | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Well, you did a better job on the GB javascript. |
| 19:41 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:41 | It may have morphed | |
| 19:41 | cait | it's hard to believe, but there is code like guided reports... |
| 19:41 | *hides* | |
| 19:42 | ok, that was mean, no cookies for me | |
| 19:42 | jcamins | The stupid indentation doesn't work with OL covers enabled. |
| 19:42 | rangi | Yeah I might just delete that |
| 19:42 | Guided reports | |
| 19:42 | wahanui | hmmm... Guided reports is some of your worst work ever |
| 19:42 | rangi | See |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Okay... looks like our best option is to only have indenting for everything other than OL covers. |
| 19:45 | rambutan | http://50.27.205.227 <- my tech's new raspberry pi with apache and some generic template for demo. I think I may buy a bunch and use them for OPACs. |
| 19:47 | * jcamins | watches the pi get slashdotted. |
| 19:48 | oleonard | Quick, set that pi on the windowsill to cool! |
| 19:48 | rambutan | I ordered mine a day before he did from a different company, and mine is still showing backordered for 11 weeks. |
| 19:48 | it's not even in a case yet :) | |
| 19:49 | jcamins | nengard: no indenting to the right of the cover image. |
| 19:50 | nengard | that's okay |
| 19:50 | being on the right i think is more important | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | However, when it is below a cover image it will indent so that you don't end up with a huge undifferentiated block of text. |
| 19:50 | Which I think is probably a reasonable compromise. | |
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| 19:51 | rangi | rambutan: make sure you talk to drojf about it. |
| 19:52 | He has it down to an art | |
| 19:56 | oleonard | rangi: I'm curious about the statistics reports you allude to in this mailing list thread: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]8413p5718650.html |
| 19:56 | rangi | Hmm? |
| 19:57 | Oh yes, union of issues and old issues with union of items and deleteditems | |
| 19:58 | And the statistics table for renews and local use | |
| 19:58 | rambutan | what specifically does drojf have down to an art? Something with the PI? |
| 19:58 | rangi | Running koha on it |
| 19:58 | cait | running Koha on it :) |
| 19:58 | jcamins | rambutan: getting Koha working on a pi. |
| 19:58 | cait | heh |
| 19:58 | oleonard | rangi: Do you have a saved report for that which you could share? |
| 19:58 | nengard left #koha | |
| 19:58 | rangi | Not on my phone |
| 19:59 | Email me to remind me and I'll get it | |
| 19:59 | oleonard | Okay, thanks |
| 19:59 | rambutan | Actually my thought is to just use them for OPAC access--just the web browser accessing the OPAC URL. |
| 20:00 | Although it might be intriguing to run Koha on a Pi and the db on a regular computer | |
| 20:00 | rangi | Put zebra on a regular one too |
| 20:01 | But it does all work on one | |
| 20:01 | jcamins | You can make the first Koha RARP! (Redundant Array of Raspberry Pis) |
| 20:02 | rambutan | My personal goal is to get a stack of them (3-10 or so), hack a regular power supply to feed power to all of them, and run boinc on them. |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Just 'cause you can? :) |
| 20:03 | rambutan | yep |
| 20:03 | rangi | My stop back soon |
| 20:04 | cait | wha tis boinc? |
| 20:04 | rambutan | https://boinc.berkeley.edu/ |
| 20:04 | jcamins | A distributed computing platform, I think. |
| 20:04 | rambutan | https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php |
| 20:05 | in fact, at home right now I'm running a German university project | |
| 20:05 | http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/ | |
| 20:16 | rangi | back |
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| 20:21 | trea | wb rangi |
| 20:21 | rangi | thanks |
| 20:22 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbo[…]old?KeepThis=true | |
| 20:23 | finally we get a gold | |
| 20:23 | cait | well done :) |
| 20:23 | rangi | lots of rowing finals tonight |
| 20:33 | http://soundcloud.com/fuckmyli[…]might-be-coffee-1 <-- good start to a friday morning | |
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| 21:07 | rangi | holy crap |
| 21:07 | july 4th | |
| 21:07 | was the last succesful build of master | |
| 21:08 | ibeardslee | oops |
| 21:08 | jcamins | I think we're trying to set a record with 3.10: longest period without successfully passing tests. |
| 21:08 | rangi | oh and we now have 3 failing tests not just two |
| 21:08 | jcamins | No, it's back to two. |
| 21:08 | One test was fixed. | |
| 21:08 | But another was broken. | |
| 21:08 | rangi | ah right |
| 21:08 | 3 fails in total tho 1 test is failing twice | |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 21:09 | rangi | 6448 eh |
| 21:10 | enhancement so i dont have to worry about it for 3.8.x | |
| 21:22 | any opinions about bug 6655 | |
| 21:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Master , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC |
| 21:22 | rangi | it works as advertised |
| 21:22 | jcamins | +1 |
| 21:22 | rangi | switches the ordering from planneddate to published date |
| 21:22 | cool | |
| 21:22 | ill put it in the 3.8.x | |
| 21:25 | jcamins | Bug 7299... should that go in 3.6.x? |
| 21:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table |
| 21:25 | * rangi | looks |
| 21:25 | jcamins | No, I don't think so. |
| 21:25 | Or maybe yes. | |
| 21:26 | I don't know. The lack of an explanation about what exactly the problem is makes it difficult to tell. | |
| 21:26 | rangi | ahh when you place a reserve using ILSDI |
| 21:26 | it didnt set the itemnumber, so was always a biblio level reserve | |
| 21:27 | basically AddReserve changed | |
| 21:27 | and ILSDI didnt | |
| 21:27 | jcamins | So I guess the question is, when did AddReserve change. |
| 21:27 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:27 | 2009 | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Prior to 3.6. |
| 21:28 | rangi | 3502810346d5e2b24417c47638f2ee42dd5c61d7 |
| 21:28 | yep | |
| 21:28 | jcamins | Heh. Okay, a while ago. |
| 21:28 | rangi | so i think thats needed |
| 21:29 | probably not spotted as ILSDI is a dead protocl | |
| 21:29 | jcamins | Bug 3280 will not be going into 3.6.x. |
| 21:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky |
| 21:29 | jcamins | I'm still pretty dubious about that patch at all. |
| 21:29 | rangi | yeah |
| 21:29 | its not a security issue .. spam is the worst that could happen | |
| 21:33 | wth | |
| 21:34 | I have successfully installed Koha 3.06.02 on CentOS 6.3 a few days ago. | |
| 21:34 | WHY | |
| 21:34 | on i know ill pick an old version, that will work well | |
| 21:34 | on=oh | |
| 21:34 | jcamins | lol |
| 21:35 | Bug 8315? | |
| 21:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Guess it's worth taking that one. |
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| 21:36 | rangi | yeah no harm, even if 3.6 isnt currently showing bad behaviour but having those numbers is not useful |
| 21:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #119 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:36 | jcamins | Okay... why am I missing tags/list.pl? |
| 21:37 | rangi | pass |
| 21:38 | jcamins | Ah, because there is no list.pl in 3.6.x. |
| 21:38 | A good reason, I think. | |
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| 22:40 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #119: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/119/ |
| 22:40 | meenakshi.r: Bug 6655 - Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC | |
| 22:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6655 trivial, P5 - low, ---, meenakshi.r, Pushed to Stable , Sorting order of serial issues in OPAC |
| 22:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #120 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:54 | rangi | http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/ |
| 22:54 | scrolls to the bottom ;) | |
| 22:54 | jcamins | Awesome! |
| 23:12 | rambutan | what's joann's nick? |
| 23:12 | jcamins | Joann, usually. |
| 23:12 | rambutan | tnx |
| 23:13 | @seen joann | |
| 23:13 | huginn | rambutan: joann was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 1 day, 11 hours, 48 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <joann> night all |
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| 23:45 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #120: SUCCESS in 1 hr 4 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/120/ |
| 23:45 | elliott: Bug 8421 : Added a URI filter to encode a cardnumber for borrowers as to not break patronimage.pl | |
| 23:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8421 minor, P5 - low, ---, elliott, Pushed to Stable , patron images fail when barcode for patron has a + |
| 23:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #121 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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