IRC log for #koha, 2012-07-29

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05:31 Oak Ahoy me hearties
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07:20 Oak hello #koha
07:21 cait hi Oak :)
07:21 Oak hello cait :)
07:21 cait don't want me to ask the question still? ;)
07:22 Oak nope. don't ask it for two more days. you can start asking after Monday :)
07:22 cait ok
07:22 :)
07:23 Oak need to make a proposal for migrating a library from Inmagic to Koha and submit it on Monday.
07:24 any idea how long will it take to convert the Inmagic database (exported in the form of a 5MB ASCII text file) to MARC batch file?
07:24 i asked Ruth and she said okay she will help me, but forgot to ask her how long this particular step will take...
07:25 and I need to mention estimate time for each task in the proposal
07:25 cait hm
07:25 she may be around a little bit late, I have never done it
07:26 Oak would you like to have a look at the file?
07:26 cait we don't have inmagic around here
07:26 Oak ah
07:26 cait and she might have done it before
07:26 Oak okay
07:26 cait so my estimate would not be very helpful I think
07:26 Oak hmm. it has ~23000 records in it
07:27 well. now i need to start making that proposal :-|
07:27 seems like a big task...
07:28 by the way, which one would be better 3.6.7 or 3.8.3 ?
07:29 cait hm
07:30 that's difficult
07:30 Oak the one with less issues -- surprises.
07:30 cait 3.6.7 maybe
07:30 but it depends on your timeframe perhaps
07:30 Oak how on timeframe?
07:30 cait 3.8.x continues to get better
07:31 Oak and 3.6.x?
07:31 wahanui 3.6.x is pretty stable and has a lot of nice features and bug fixes
07:31 cait too :)
07:31 it' sreally difficult
07:31 i am not sure what good advice woul be
07:31 Oak which one would you pick for a new library?
07:32 i mean personally you yourself....
07:32 cait we are wondering about it ourselves right now
07:32 Oak :)
07:32 cait we will probably go with 3.6.x... but it's not finally decided yet
07:32 Oak hmm
07:33 what are those emails in mailing lists about searching issues in 3.8.x?
07:33 cait hm which do you mean?
07:33 * Oak goes to check them
07:34 cait I am not aware of search issues, I think there were some calendar and fines related problems because of introduction of hourly loans
07:35 Oak are they fixed in 3.8.3?
07:35 cait i think probably 3.8.4
07:35 Oak hmm
07:38 okay i checked there are no 3.8.x specific search issues... rather just some zebra issues... so never mind.
07:38 cait rangi pushed some patches for it after 3.8.3 was released
07:38 yeah, i think what we see with every release :)
07:38 but it works, if you know how to tame it
07:38 Oak :) yup
07:39 the installation i did using 3.6.4 for my project is working fine... no zebra issues... and it's just a normal Debian package install.
07:41 *sigh* the proposal... :(
07:49 cait
07:49 cait hm?
07:49 Oak have you ever heard someone running Koha on Oracle database instead of MySQL?
07:50 cait it's not possible right now
07:50 there is still mysql specific code in Koha
07:50 Oak good.
07:51 that means i won't have to *make* it work with Oracle... as the IT people of the library mentioned they would prefer if Koha could use their Oracle server instead of MySQL
07:51 cait i wouldn't recommnd trying to do that
07:52 Oak god. understood.
07:52 good*
07:53 how is the nephew?
07:53 cait which one? :)
07:53 I think both are doing fine
07:53 Oak :)
07:54 the latest one
07:57 what are you doing right now cait?
07:58 cait hm watching olympics and eating breakfast :)
07:58 Oak :)
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11:24 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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11:57 Oak cait
12:26 jcamins Good morning.
12:40 mtompset Greetings, jcamins
12:41 Fedora did not want to boot nicely on my netbook's VM.
12:41 I'm calling it quits on my RPM-based OS attempts.
12:41 jcamins Well, you *are* using a netbook. :P
12:41 mtompset I couldn't afford a really computer.
12:41 really good.
12:42 This was a Christmas present, and it is doing well enough for everything else.
12:42 jcamins Yeah, but you have to expect that things will be veeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyy slow.
12:43 mtompset Okay... there's is slow, then there are RPM-based OS boot times.
12:43 jcamins Hehe.
12:43 mtompset CentOS and Fedora require a coffee break just to boot.
12:44 Ubuntu is a couple minutes, but you can see it working.
12:44 It doesn't help that Fedora doesn't have a SERVER version, that I could easily find.
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12:44 mtompset Greetings, drojf
12:48 * cait waves
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13:08 mtompset Greetings, cait
13:08 Greetings, Oak
13:08 cait hi mtompset
13:08 hi Oak
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14:02 mib_mn7wye Hello
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14:28 francharb hi
14:33 mtompset Greetings, francharb
14:33 Greetings again, Oak
14:59 francharb 0/ mtate
15:00 oups
15:00 0/ mtompset
15:00 :)
15:00 mtompset :)
16:56 Oak greetings mtompset :) i was afk, just saw your message
16:56 and now it's time to sleep...
16:56 mtompset not a problem.
16:56 Oak :)
16:56 mtompset I am about 10 minutes away from sleep.
16:56 I just rsync'd 14GB.
16:56 I have to check if it did it correctly.
16:56 Oak in that case, good night mtompset :)
16:56 good night #koha
16:57 mtompset good night, Oak
17:30 Well, that's weird du -h listed different numbers, but a du -b lists similar numbers, and the difference is accounted for by an ls -la and the directory size seems different.
17:30 jcamins block size.
17:30 mtompset how to check block size?
17:31 jcamins I don't know. But if the size of the directory entry is different on one system from another, it is probably block size.
17:34 mtompset the problem seems stranger under VM environment.
17:40 anyways... it probably is a block size difference... I'm off to bed now.
17:40 Have a good afternoon, jcamins .
17:40 jcamins Thanks. Night.
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19:11 mveron Hi #koha
19:12 cait hi mveron
19:12 mveron hi cait :-)
19:12 @wunder Basel
19:13 huginn mveron: The current temperature in Basel, Switzerland is 18.0°C (9:00 PM CEST on July 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
19:14 mveron cait: I had a nasty little bug with ofline circulation: If patron had fines (over the limit), it showed: Sie haben offene Gebühren in Höhe von und können daher nichts mehr entleihen. (Without the amount)
19:14 cait oh
19:14 mveron Bug 8518
19:14 cait what was it?
19:14 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8518 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Self checkout does not display debt amount if syspref AllowFineOverride is set to allow
19:15 mveron 3 lines of code missing...
19:15 cait ah
19:16 mveron took some time to find out...
19:16 cait yeah I can imagine
19:17 mveron ...but now it is ready to sign off...
19:17 * mveron would rather like to take off - to a place warmet than 18°C
19:17 cait the temperature is ok for me
19:18 only so sleepy
19:18 I know I have not been testing much lately :(
19:18 mveron but youdi a lot o other things!
19:18 (should put my glasses)
19:18 cait heh
19:19 mveron Question: Wehre would you put "Kostenstellen" in Acquisition?
19:20 cait funds
19:20 mveron Ok, will have a look :-)  I'm not an expert in "Buchhaltung"
19:20 cait I would use the budgets to mark years, because you can duplicate them and then use the funds to bulid the hiearchical structure
19:20 but funds display is not optimal yet
19:21 it doesn't display the hierarchical order
19:21 mveron Ah
19:21 cait so, if possible I would flatten it
19:21 you could also maybe use the statistic values for grouping
19:22 there are 2 for each fund that you can link to an authorized value
19:22 not sure I make sense :)
19:23 mveron It's late anyway :-)
19:25 * mveron looks up the translation for "Kostenstelle"
19:25 mveron Leo translates "Kostenstelle" to "cost centre", "cost unit" and "burden centre"
19:26 cait hm not sure about that
19:26 I think you can't put it 1:1 into koha structure, because we don't have different terms for the different levels of funds
19:28 what's the normal structure? kostenart - kostenstelle - kostenträger?
19:30 mveron Don't know yet...
19:41 jcamins I have built a shelf! :D
19:44 cait hhmm
19:44 did you put books in it yet?
19:44 jcamins No, it's for the pantry. :P
19:44 cait did you put anything in it yet and it's still alive? :
19:44 )
19:44 jcamins And the glue is stil drying.
19:44 No, not quite yet.
19:45 *still
19:53 rangi Morning
19:54 mveron Hi rangi
19:54 cait morning
19:57 jcamins :D
19:57 Nicest shelf *ever*!!!!
19:57 :D
19:58 cait lol
19:58 you see it through the eyes of the builder
19:59 jcamins lol
19:59 rangi Karam++
20:00 cait :)
20:00 yep Karam++
20:00 and rangi++
20:01 mveron http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H17mWrB9RbY    :-)
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20:14 mveron Good night #koha
20:16 cait good morning kathryn :)
20:20 kathryn hello cait how're you going? :)
20:21 cait I am fine - watching olympics but sleep soon
20:21 hope you have a nice monday :)
20:21 kathryn thanks! enjoy!
20:27 cait night #koha
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