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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:01 | mtj | yes paul, do it!, do it! |
| 00:01 | rangi | i like it |
| 00:03 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:42 | rangi | ohh cool |
| 00:43 | i didnt realise anthony mao had so many libraries | |
| 00:46 | jcamins | Is there any way to cherry-pick more than one commit at a time? |
| 00:46 | rangi | i know someone has asked this before |
| 00:46 | jcamins | I *don't* want to merge in the other branch, because there are some patches I don't want. |
| 00:46 | rangi | i cant remember the answer |
| 00:46 | jcamins | Probably me. |
| 00:47 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]-multiple-commits | |
| 00:48 | rangi | ah yep, new git :) |
| 00:48 | jcamins | I have git 1.7.2.5, and it definitely does not cherry-pick more than one commit. |
| 00:48 | I know because I've been trying that over and over and over. | |
| 00:48 | Maybe they meant the one that comes first has to be *newer*. | |
| 00:49 | rangi | yeah try that |
| 00:49 | also the format-patch idea has merit | |
| 00:49 | git format-patch --full-index --binary --stdout range | |
| 00:49 | jcamins | I tried the xargs one. |
| 00:50 | Bad idea. | |
| 00:50 | rangi | yeah too dangerous |
| 00:50 | the patch will at least give you a chance to fix the conflicts | |
| 00:51 | jcamins | Well, it shouldn't be too dangerous... 3.6.x and 3.6-testing have so far diverged... not at all. |
| 00:52 | rangi | :) |
| 01:05 | jcamins | Ha! |
| 01:05 | Figured it out eventually. | |
| 01:06 | The format-patch was a step in the right direction. | |
| 01:39 | bug 7726 | |
| 01:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7726 trivial, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , AllowItemsOnHoldCheckout has columns in wrong order in sysprefs.sql |
| 01:41 | jcamins | bug 6931 |
| 01:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6931 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , hardcoded insert incompatible with UNIMARC |
| 01:42 | rangi | hmm? |
| 01:44 | jcamins | cherry-picking. |
| 01:44 | rangi | ahh |
| 01:49 | jcamins | Well, there was no 3.6.x patch for bug 8062. |
| 01:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8062 critical, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , Cart email broken for non english templates |
| 01:50 | jcamins | I just tried my hand at resolving it, but I don't think that'll be going into 3.6.7. |
| 01:50 | rangi | did you update it askign for a 3.6.x patch? i do that with 3.8.x ones |
| 01:51 | if they dont apply clean | |
| 01:51 | jcamins | I did, yes. |
| 01:51 | rangi | sweet |
| 01:51 | jcamins | I'd just like to have had a 3.6.x patch for 3.6.7. |
| 01:54 | rangi | *nod* |
| 01:57 | ago43 | Hi, after importing some authorities via bulkauthimport.pl, I ran link_bibs_to authorities.pl and got tons of the following errors: Auth error: Unsupported Use attribute (114) Match-heading Bib-1 |
| 01:58 | I only imported 100 authorities, but I've gotten many hundreds of these errors. | |
| 01:59 | should I abort the process, and re-index with the back-ups I made before starting the authorities import? | |
| 01:59 | jcamins | ago43: you need to update the zebra config. |
| 01:59 | No point. | |
| 01:59 | The config is still wrong. | |
| 01:59 | rangi | yeah, 114 points to bad config usually |
| 01:59 | ago43 | cool. thanks! |
| 02:03 | jcamins | Bug 7941 caused all sorts of problems, didn't it? |
| 02:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7941 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Fix version numbers in modules and set up a system to keep them up to date |
| 02:03 | * jcamins | gives it a miss. |
| 02:04 | rangi | not really, the hardcoded numbers in the other files caused the mess, once thats pushed it will be fine |
| 02:05 | jcamins | Right, but when choosing things to go to 3.6.x, that seems non-essential, and is known to break things. |
| 02:06 | rangi | yep, id leave it for 3.6 |
| 02:06 | the nice thing it did, was throw up that we had hardcoded madness | |
| 02:07 | so id pull those ones in, even if not the 7941 | |
| 02:07 | but maybe not this close to eol .. the timebomb is unlikely to explode in the next few months :) | |
| 02:09 | jcamins | What is with the "released releases" thing in docs/history.txt? |
| 02:09 | rangi | its a tab separated file |
| 02:09 | that i keep fixing the tabs on | |
| 02:09 | releases is the type | |
| 02:09 | jcamins | Ohh. |
| 02:10 | Got it. | |
| 02:10 | rangi | the idea is you can slurp the file in, find all the release notices for a nice timeline |
| 02:10 | jcamins | That's excellent. |
| 02:10 | I just wrote a crazy regular expression to get me that information. | |
| 02:10 | rangi | yeah to stop that :0 |
| 02:10 | some might have the releases bit missing, but we can fix that easily enough ;) | |
| 02:12 | * jcamins | keeps on meaning to send in a patch to fix that, since it looks like it just says "released releases" |
| 02:12 | rangi | i think i used to tag the developer ones too |
| 02:12 | jcamins | Guess there's a good reason not to. |
| 02:12 | rangi | and meetings |
| 02:13 | oh | |
| 02:13 | a new thing for the dashboard | |
| 02:13 | jcamins | Yes! |
| 02:13 | rangi | days until string freeze |
| 02:13 | jcamins | That too. |
| 02:14 | I thought you meant "newest developers." | |
| 02:14 | rangi | ohhh that too :) |
| 02:14 | lemme get a coffee and ill get right on that | |
| 02:27 | when are you planning 3.6.7 ? | |
| 02:27 | string freeze on the 15th? | |
| 02:28 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 02:28 | rangi | cool |
| 02:28 | release on 22? | |
| 02:28 | jcamins | Yup. |
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| 02:30 | jcamins | ~/release-tools/release-tool.pl -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x && git checkout 3.6-testing && ~/release-tools/release-tool.pl -v --push=kc-rmaint:3.6.x-rmaint/testing |
| 02:30 | :D | |
| 02:30 | mib_1xu6wg | anyone have a link to the difference between 3.6.6 and 3.8.2? or can say which would be better to "start" with for a new system for a library? |
| 02:31 | jcamins | mib_1xu6wg: 3.6.6 is rather more mature and stable. 3.8.2 has a lot of cool new features. |
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| 02:31 | jcamins | If you won't be going live for a while, I'd go with 3.8.2. |
| 02:31 | 3.8.3 will be about in two weeks or so, and it will be even more stable. | |
| 02:32 | mib_1xu6wg | is the transisition to the next version hard? say we use 3.6.6 but I try 3.8.X and it has stuff we want, nice upgrade script, or it is a rip and replace type install? |
| 02:32 | jcamins | (currently the big problems with 3.8.x are all to do with fines) |
| 02:32 | Very easy. | |
| 02:32 | You just change "oldstable" in your /etc/apt/sources.list to "stable" and run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common | |
| 02:32 | mib_1xu6wg | Window is to have it running in production by end of August to replace Follet Circ/Cat |
| 02:32 | jcamins | :D |
| 02:33 | rangi | you do fines? |
| 02:33 | jcamins | Hmmm... you probably don't use fines too much, do you? |
| 02:33 | rangi | hehe snap :) |
| 02:33 | mib_1xu6wg | no fines, its a school they hold report cards hostage :P |
| 02:33 | jcamins | rangi: BTW, tell me that command line wasn't profoundly awesome. |
| 02:34 | mib_1xu6wg: 3.8.2 would be a good choice, then. | |
| 02:34 | Ooh, I like the "New features recently pushed." | |
| 02:34 | rangi | :) |
| 02:35 | yeah its good eh | |
| 02:35 | jcamins | Ooh, 8301 was pushed? |
| 02:35 | Awesome! | |
| 02:35 | mib_1xu6wg | okay I played with 3.6.4 I believe a while back you all helped me get a working system, I submitted a few failed patches, and even tried to learn git... |
| 02:35 | jcamins | Awesome! You'll get the hang of git in no time. :) |
| 02:36 | mib_1xu6wg | I just my new server in and I am using Vmware ESXi on it, so I am hoping I can building a system in VirtualBox and transfer it in |
| 02:36 | jcamins | You need to use a certain type of disk image. |
| 02:37 | mib_1xu6wg | I downloaded VMware converter tool. Hopefully construction is done soon and I can do this all @ work, but for now I was looking at "options" if I still can;t get in my server room |
| 02:37 | jcamins | Oh my. |
| 02:37 | Actually, I seem to remember talking to you. :) | |
| 02:37 | mib_1xu6wg | there are doing asbestos abatement, entire building is down |
| 02:37 | rangi | id definitely use the pacakges |
| 02:38 | jcamins | No question. |
| 02:38 | Packages all the way. | |
| 02:38 | mib_1xu6wg | oh yeah I plan on packages for the production system |
| 02:39 | * jcamins | smiles beneficently at his computer, now testing two releases, and goes to sleep. |
| 02:39 | rangi | sleep well |
| 02:39 | Shane-S | I had linked to a few documents that were not clear on the package installtions and I think wizzyrea mentioned removing outdated docs |
| 02:39 | night | |
| 02:39 | hopefully the package install is simple | |
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| 03:34 | Amit_Gupta joined #koha | |
| 03:38 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:43 | cait joined #koha | |
| 03:47 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 03:48 | rangi | hi cait |
| 03:48 | cait | h rangi :) |
| 03:48 | rangi | cait: i added important dates to the dashboard |
| 03:49 | cait | nice! |
| 03:49 | rangi++ | |
| 03:49 | long listof sign-offers now | |
| 03:49 | that's nice too, it's growing | |
| 03:50 | rangi | next feature is 3 newest developers |
| 03:50 | that was jcamins_away idea | |
| 03:51 | cait | :) |
| 03:51 | rangi | according to my stats |
| 03:51 | from 13/6/2012 to 10/7/2012 | |
| 03:52 | i received 4053 emails to my bigballofwax address | |
| 03:52 | and sent 242 | |
| 03:55 | cait | wow |
| 04:02 | dcook | Just a few e-mails, eh? |
| 04:03 | wajasu joined #koha | |
| 04:04 | rangi | just a few :) |
| 04:05 | dcook | I just added another :p |
| 04:06 | I've actually been finding several bugs dealing with holds all day, but now that I think about it...I've been looking at 3.8.0, so they might already be fixed | |
| 04:06 | * dcook | feels that his day may become invalidated shortly |
| 04:07 | rangi | heh |
| 04:08 | dcook | Actually, I wouldn't mind that so much |
| 04:08 | It would save me the headache of trying to puzzle them all out | |
| 04:12 | Damn...if only I were so lucky :p | |
| 04:13 | rangi | theres a big rewrite in the works |
| 04:13 | its being tested at the moment | |
| 04:14 | dcook | For holds? |
| 04:14 | rangi | yep |
| 04:14 | * dcook | drools |
| 04:14 | dcook | What's the bug #? |
| 04:14 | wahanui | hmmm... the bug # is there |
| 04:14 | rangi | papa is who you wnat to talk to about it |
| 04:15 | 5609 but not a lot to see there | |
| 04:17 | dcook | Hmm |
| 04:17 | You're right about there not being much | |
| 04:17 | Most of this looks like enhancements though | |
| 04:17 | rangi | bug 5786 |
| 04:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5786 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move AllowOnShelfHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix |
| 04:17 | dcook | I'm looking at another one of those issues where it used to work and now it doesn't |
| 04:17 | rangi | bug 5787 |
| 04:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5787 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Patch doesn't apply , Move OPACItemHolds system preference to the Circulation Matrix. |
| 04:18 | rangi | bug 5788 |
| 04:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5788 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Move ReservesMaxPickupDelay system preference to the Circulation Matrix. |
| 04:18 | dcook | Yeah, I looked at those |
| 04:18 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]ug_5786_5787_5788 |
| 04:18 | thats a merge of them | |
| 04:19 | cait | good to hear it's being tested :) |
| 04:19 | I started on one of them but got totally lost :( | |
| 04:20 | dcook | Hmm |
| 04:21 | I can understand. I'm not sure I follow a lot of this | |
| 04:21 | Personally, I'm just trying to restore functionality that was already there :S | |
| 04:22 | rangi | thats always a great goal |
| 04:22 | what is it? | |
| 04:22 | the best is to write a test so that if someone breaks it again, the tests scream at them | |
| 04:22 | :) | |
| 04:22 | dcook | I am intrigued... |
| 04:22 | waitingreserves.pl | |
| 04:23 | If there is an item with multiple holds on it, and you cancel a hold, the screen (except the header) is cleared | |
| 04:23 | Instead of prompting you to confirm the hold for the next person in the queue | |
| 04:23 | Looking at our 3.2 install, it used to have a very nice prompt appear in such a situation | |
| 04:24 | rangi | right, im not sure koha did |
| 04:24 | at least i dont remember it | |
| 04:24 | maybe it was a patch never submitted? | |
| 04:24 | dcook | Maybe |
| 04:24 | But the clearing of the screen is still unusual | |
| 04:24 | rangi | yep it is |
| 04:24 | dcook | It doesn't even return to the "No Holds" screen |
| 04:24 | * dcook | looks into the prompt |
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| 04:27 | dcook | Cancelling holds in transit also adds another layer of evil... |
| 04:30 | I wonder sometimes, rangi, if you have all the koha code in your head :p | |
| 04:30 | cait | he does |
| 04:30 | but I am not sure it's properly version controlled | |
| 04:30 | dcook | :p |
| 04:31 | Yep...looks like we made a lot of changes to the way that holds are handled | |
| 04:31 | * dcook | tears out his own eyes for a bit |
| 04:31 | rangi | hehe |
| 04:32 | * cait | sends cookies |
| 04:32 | dcook | Mmm, cookies |
| 04:33 | For the most part, I think that they're good changes. I just wish that they were tracked better. I suppose that's the whole point of moving to using git for all of our changes | |
| 04:33 | * druthb | perx. Cookies? |
| 04:33 | rangi | yeah, tracking and getting them into koha makes everyones life easier |
| 04:35 | dcook | Agreed |
| 04:35 | cait | druthb: brush you rteeth and go to bed! |
| 04:35 | yep it does :) | |
| 04:35 | makes it possible to use the packages for us soon | |
| 04:35 | dcook | ? |
| 04:35 | cait | because not having local customizatoins is nice :) |
| 04:36 | dcook | Sooo true |
| 04:36 | druthb | Already brushed my fangs and am in bed, cait. :) just being lazy. |
| 04:37 | cait | sleep! :) |
| 04:37 | druthb | :P |
| 04:38 | dcook | Not sure how to deal with the transit issues... |
| 04:38 | We can't stop people from cancelling holds while items are in transit | |
| 04:38 | rangi | nope |
| 04:39 | dcook | But cancelling holds on items in transit creates some nasty problems |
| 04:39 | rangi | hmm? |
| 04:39 | dcook | If an item on hold is in transit to another library and the transfer is cancelled at the home library but the hold remains, the item cannot be checked in at the transfer library...but checking in at the home library does nothing |
| 04:40 | If you cancel a hold or change the pickup location while it's in transit, you have to check it in at the home branch and either (Cancel the transfer to the original transfer) or just confirm the real hold/transfer at the bottom) | |
| 04:40 | In this second case, two prompts appear. One telling you to transfer it to the original transfer location. The second telling you to confirm the hold and second it to the new transfer location. | |
| 04:41 | rangi | right |
| 04:41 | dcook | I imagine that there are other scenarios as well, but those are the two that I've noticed so far |
| 04:41 | rangi | what happens in the first scenario when you try to check it in? |
| 04:41 | dcook | In the second case, clicking on the first "transfer to original transfer location" either throws a software error or clears all transfer destinations |
| 04:41 | rangi | (at the transfer library) |
| 04:41 | dcook | It said "Cannot check in. Must checkin at home branch" |
| 04:42 | rangi | hmm that must be related to a syspref too |
| 04:42 | dcook | I sure hope so |
| 04:42 | Actually, I had that inkling as well | |
| 04:42 | But even if it is... | |
| 04:42 | rangi | it will be |
| 04:42 | but returning it home doesnt wipe the transfer off? | |
| 04:42 | dcook | Independant Branches maybe? |
| 04:43 | Right | |
| 04:43 | And here's the real problem, I suppose | |
| 04:43 | rangi | no, it will be to do with homebranch something something |
| 04:43 | dcook | When returning it home the first time, we tried to cancel the transfer |
| 04:43 | But it didn't really work | |
| 04:43 | rangi | cos you can have floating collections and stuff, that never have to return home |
| 04:43 | dcook | But home branch "thinks" it did |
| 04:43 | rangi | right |
| 04:43 | so i think its all down to cancelling transfers then | |
| 04:44 | dcook | As in? |
| 04:44 | rangi | well its not cancelling them |
| 04:45 | dcook | Mmm |
| 04:45 | rangi | when you returned it to home |
| 04:45 | and choose to cancel it didnt work | |
| 04:46 | dcook | Or maybe it somewhat worked |
| 04:46 | If it was cancelled, that would explain why the transfer branch wouldn't accept it | |
| 04:46 | But maybe the item is just not being modded? | |
| 04:46 | rangi | hmm? |
| 04:46 | the item doesnt need to be | |
| 04:46 | dcook | You can tell I never do anything with holds, lol |
| 04:46 | rangi | the transfers are totally independent of holds |
| 04:47 | dcook | Yeah, I just realized that |
| 04:47 | rangi | ie not linked in anyway |
| 04:47 | dcook | So why would the transfer branch refuse it, but the item status still say it |
| 04:47 | rangi | they can just start a transfer |
| 04:47 | do you have db access? | |
| 04:47 | dcook | Decent access |
| 04:48 | Limited write, but I can select just fine | |
| 04:48 | branchtransfers? | |
| 04:48 | rangi | try SELECT * from branchtransfers where itemnumber=whatever |
| 04:49 | hopefully can find out if the transfer was actually cancelled | |
| 04:52 | dcook | I see a few "wrongtransfer" records |
| 04:52 | from and to the same branch | |
| 04:52 | rangi | right |
| 04:52 | but not one for that item to the branch you cancelled it for? | |
| 04:54 | dcook | I'm trying to replicate the issue, but I seem to be doing it a bit differently |
| 04:54 | So I've got my item going from demo to electronic | |
| 04:55 | for pickup at electronic | |
| 04:55 | I'll cancel that hold | |
| 04:55 | Now the item says going from demo to electronic for pickup at demo | |
| 04:56 | Because it hasn't physically left demo yet, I'm going to check in at demo | |
| 04:57 | As before, I see two prompts. "Please return to Electronic (Print slip or cancel transfer) for hold ... Confirm" | |
| 04:57 | and "Hold Found. Hold for...Hold at demo. Confirm hold or Ignore" | |
| 04:58 | Now, I believe clicking "Confirm hold" will make everything great | |
| 04:58 | But the top box is the most obvious and I know that I don't want to send it to Electronic, so I hit "Cancel transfer" | |
| 04:58 | rangi | right |
| 04:59 | dcook | Hmm, this is actually looking OK |
| 04:59 | Which means I must've done something different last time.. | |
| 05:00 | Mmm | |
| 05:00 | Last time, I think I added another layer perhaps | |
| 05:00 | So that it was going from demo to electronic to demo2 | |
| 05:00 | * dcook | gives up for now |
| 05:01 | dcook | I'm going to go grab my lunch :P |
| 05:01 | cait | good idea :) |
| 05:02 | dcook | But...so obstinate...can't give up... |
| 05:04 | Mmm, I think I might see it.. | |
| 05:04 | cait | using your crystal ball? :) |
| 05:04 | @eightball should I do my it law homework now? | |
| 05:04 | huginn | cait: What are you asking me for? |
| 05:04 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 05:05 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 05:05 | @eightball | |
| 05:05 | huginn | cait: No clue. |
| 05:05 | cait | hmm |
| 05:05 | thought that did work | |
| 05:05 | wahanui? | |
| 05:05 | wahanui | cait? |
| 05:06 | rangi | that was huginn |
| 05:06 | that does it | |
| 05:06 | @help eightball | |
| 05:06 | huginn | rangi: (eightball [<question>]) -- Ask a question and the answer shall be provided. |
| 05:07 | rangi | @eightball why dont you work? |
| 05:07 | huginn | rangi: Naturally. |
| 05:07 | cait | lol |
| 05:07 | @eightball it-law homework? | |
| 05:07 | huginn | cait: The outlook is poor. |
| 05:07 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 05:07 | cait | yeah, that's true |
| 05:07 | rangi | hehe |
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| 05:56 | rangi | hmm this doesnt seem right |
| 05:57 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Notices_and_Slips | |
| 05:57 | someone has made a page in the category agian | |
| 05:57 | cait | glad it was not me |
| 05:58 | mediawiki is still weird to me | |
| 05:58 | rangi | i wonder if they are still editing ill fix it when they finish |
| 05:58 | cait | it seens to - last change 5:42 |
| 05:59 | hm I mean it seems like they are | |
| 05:59 | and my edit this morning was 4:55 | |
| 06:00 | hm maybe tweetbot should also give the link to the tweet? | |
| 06:02 | rangi | talk to mtj :) |
| 06:03 | cait | i know :) but was waiting if you would tell me the idea was stupid |
| 06:04 | rangi | hehe |
| 06:04 | hmm i dont get that tweet | |
| 06:05 | cait | I think an insider maybe |
| 06:05 | rangi | i need the french people to arrive to explain it to me :) |
| 06:05 | cait | insider joke |
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| 06:07 | mveron | Good morning #koha |
| 06:08 | rangi | hi mveron |
| 06:08 | cait | hi mveron |
| 06:08 | back home? | |
| 06:08 | mveron | hi rangi qand cait |
| 06:08 | cait | @later tell mtj maybe the tweetbot should tweet a link to the tweet too? |
| 06:08 | huginn | cait: The operation succeeded. |
| 06:08 | * mveron | is still on Sifnos, one more week :-) |
| 06:08 | mveron | ...but working a little bit... |
| 06:09 | cait | getting bored already? :) |
| 06:10 | mveron | No :-) But it is nice to work a littel bit in the cool morning time |
| 06:18 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:26 | rangi | bonjour alex_a |
| 06:28 | cait | bonjour |
| 06:28 | wahanui | hello, cait |
| 06:30 | rangi | alex_a: do you know Mathieu Saby? |
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| 06:33 | rangi | ohh maybe a koala for kohala ? |
| 06:33 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:33 | wahanui | privet, reiveune |
| 06:33 | * rangi | will not give up until he understands that photo |
| 06:33 | rangi | hi reiveune |
| 06:38 | http://www.lacloche.co.nz/ <-- where i am taking the family for lunch tomorrow | |
| 06:39 | dcook_away | Yum |
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| 06:42 | cait | yum |
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| 06:50 | dcook | Does anyone know if the data tables have been updated in Master since 3.8.0? |
| 06:51 | cait | bbiab |
| 06:51 | dcook | I'm getting "Previous" and "Next" showing up over the Previous and Next buttons in the Holds Pull list |
| 06:52 | rangi | i think they have yes |
| 06:52 | dcook | They seem to have lost "Previous" and "Next" as titles and have them as innerhtml instead |
| 06:52 | Well, I don't know if innerhtml is the right term... | |
| 06:52 | But it shows as link text | |
| 06:55 | rangi | have you checked out the latest version of 3.8.x to test? |
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| 06:57 | dcook | Yeah, it's all right in the latest 3.8.x |
| 06:57 | It's just funky in Master | |
| 06:58 | francharb | good morning #koha |
| 06:58 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 06:58 | dcook | morning/afternoon francharb |
| 06:58 | francharb | 0/ rangi dcook |
| 07:00 | alex_a | rangi: Mathieu Saby ? mmh no |
| 07:01 | Who is he ? | |
| 07:01 | wahanui | he is gone again |
| 07:01 | alex_a | rangi: hello ! :) |
| 07:01 | rangi | i dont know :) |
| 07:01 | https://twitter.com/27point7/s[…]23657946205261825 | |
| 07:01 | mveron | If I want to change the birthdate of a patron on current master, datepicker does not insert the new date. Known issue? Can anybody confirm? |
| 07:02 | Changing the date manually (write directly into the field) works. | |
| 07:02 | dcook | I'll take a look at mine mveron |
| 07:02 | mveron | Thanks, dcook |
| 07:03 | alex_a | rangi: what a beautiful koala :) |
| 07:04 | rangi | yep, im guessing koala for kohala ? |
| 07:04 | dcook | mveron: this is the jquery datepicker? |
| 07:04 | It seems to work fine for me on current master | |
| 07:04 | mveron | I think so, I just pulled from master |
| 07:05 | alex_a | hello francharb ! |
| 07:06 | dcook | Hmm. I think it's a problem on your end then, as it looks like it's working nicely |
| 07:06 | mveron | dcook: I use firefox 14 beta, maybe it is an issue there. |
| 07:06 | dcook | Actually.. |
| 07:06 | I was just about to ask what browser you were using | |
| 07:07 | The datepicker has worked well across the board in my tests though | |
| 07:07 | * dcook | takes another look |
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| 07:09 | mveron | dcook: It misbehaves with the year. If I change the day it works |
| 07:09 | dcook | Mmm, I see what you're saying now |
| 07:09 | Same thing with the month | |
| 07:10 | Looks like you have to actually choose the new date if you want to change the month and/or year | |
| 07:11 | I doubt anyone has stumbled upon that one | |
| 07:12 | mveron | dcook: It is'nt by design, no? Misunderstanding "done"? |
| 07:14 | dcook | Mmm, good point |
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| 07:16 | clrh | hello |
| 07:16 | jcamins_away: I am here but not you ;) | |
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| 07:18 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
| 07:19 | rangi | hi paul_p clrh kf and gaetan_B |
| 07:19 | kf | hello gaetan_B, hello again rangi and #koha |
| 07:20 | paul_p | hi rangi & kf & everyone |
| 07:22 | dcook | Might be an oversight in the design mveron |
| 07:22 | In any case, my brain is about to explode and I have a week from hell coming up, so I better get moving! | |
| 07:22 | Au revoir, tout le monde | |
| 07:22 | mveron | au revoir, dcook |
| 07:22 | clrh | jcamins_away: ++ |
| 07:24 | kf | bonjour clrh :) |
| 07:28 | clrh | hello kt |
| 07:29 | kf | |
| 07:30 | rangi | new developers section added to the dashboard |
| 07:30 | kf | yay! |
| 07:30 | rangi | and clrh is list in it |
| 07:30 | kf | rangi++ |
| 07:31 | clrh | rangi: hum :) |
| 07:31 | kf | clrh++ :) |
| 07:31 | clrh | I just submitted a patch and not sure to submit a lot more... |
| 07:47 | rangi | 1 patch is more than 6 billion people have done |
| 07:48 | kf | clrh: and you do work on Koha - even if it's not visible in a lot of patches :) |
| 07:49 | * paul_p | tries to find a french word for "wrangler" and can't ... |
| 07:49 | clrh | :) |
| 07:49 | rangi | oh paul_p |
| 07:49 | you might understand this | |
| 07:49 | clrh | the litteral translation is the guys who take care of horses |
| 07:49 | paul_p | google translate says = "cow-boy" ... |
| 07:49 | rangi | same in english |
| 07:49 | clrh | aaaah |
| 07:49 | kf | I am a cow girl then? woohoo :) |
| 07:49 | rangi | you wrangle horses |
| 07:50 | kf | heh |
| 07:50 | rangi | but you can kinda of use it nowadays for anything |
| 07:50 | herder would be another good one | |
| 07:50 | bug herder :) | |
| 07:50 | kf | I already herd cats... why not bugs |
| 07:51 | rangi | paul_p: https://twitter.com/27point7/s[…]23657946205261825 |
| 07:51 | why the koala and koha .. is it because of kohala ? | |
| 07:51 | someone must know, or ill be trying to figure it out all night :) | |
| 07:51 | kf | the kohala is a good idea |
| 07:52 | alex_a | kf: i get the same problem than you on bug 5981 |
| 07:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history |
| 07:52 | alex_a | Browser freezes |
| 07:52 | :( | |
| 07:52 | my_patch-- | |
| 07:52 | kf | alex_a: you can reproduce it? |
| 07:52 | alex_a | + paging broken |
| 07:52 | kf | well |
| 07:52 | alex_a | my_patch-- |
| 07:52 | paul_p | alex_a = there must be something with the configuration, because some/many don't have this problem of freeze... |
| 07:53 | alex_a | kf: yes |
| 07:53 | kf | I am glad you can reproduce it!! |
| 07:53 | rangi | that was a confusing one |
| 07:53 | paul_p | the question being = WTF difference ? |
| 07:53 | kf | because now you can figure out how to stop it :) |
| 07:53 | and you will :) | |
| 07:53 | alex_a | kf: i just update ff to 13.0.1. And you ? |
| 07:53 | kf | hm can't check, was testing on my laptop :( |
| 07:54 | but it has the latest version of whatever is in ubuntu | |
| 07:57 | alex_a | And i can confirm that when i comment the few lines of this patch, browser no longer freeze |
| 07:57 | rangi | thats pretty awesome |
| 07:57 | we can successfully break browsers with html | |
| 07:58 | :) | |
| 07:59 | clrh | kf rangi the french koha association is called kohala |
| 07:59 | maybe paul_p knowws more why ;) | |
| 07:59 | kf | rangi: ?? :) |
| 07:59 | rangi | yep, and does that sounds like koala when you pronounce it? |
| 08:00 | paul_p | kohala = KOHA Libre Association |
| 08:01 | alex_a | this js seems to block the query: "opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js" |
| 08:01 | paul_p | in french "Association" refer to "Association loi 1901", that is the most common NPO (99.5% of NPO are "law 1901 association") |
| 08:01 | alex_a | But what is the relationship ? |
| 08:01 | clrh | https://twitter.com/Tredok/sta[…]20896173710508033 https://twitter.com/Tredok/sta[…]19668150113935361 |
| 08:01 | kf | paul_p: I think we know about kohala being the french user group - it's more we are still wondering about the secret behind the tweet :) |
| 08:02 | paul_p | maybe they're thinking of a communication to enrole more libraries. Or change the kohala logo. I don't know |
| 08:03 | rangi | alex_a: is there something that makes the page grow large and the highlight try to highlight too much? |
| 08:03 | paul_p: i guess i was asking that when pronounced in french does kohala and koala sounds similar? | |
| 08:05 | paul_p | rangi = usually yes. But you must know that "koha" is pronounced in french like the word "quoi" which is "what". So we usually empasize the h = "kohhhha". So "kohala" is sometimes emphasized too |
| 08:05 | rangi | ah ok :) |
| 08:05 | mystery solved | |
| 08:06 | for the record i like the french pronounciation of koha a lot better than the US one | |
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| 08:11 | * paul_p | head to bugzilla and should work on it for the rest of friday... |
| 08:11 | alex_a | rangi: nope. I just search "a" |
| 08:12 | however, "a" are not highlighted | |
| 08:12 | rangi | weird |
| 08:13 | alex_a | yep, and i did not have this behavior before |
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| 08:31 | kf | alex_a: neither did I when I signed off your patch |
| 08:32 | alex_a: something must have changed in between :( | |
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| 08:44 | rangi | hmm parse fail, i can not make heads nor tails of that email |
| 08:45 | alex_a | when i comment this line "$query_desc .= ", $limit_desc";" no longer have the freeze and pager works ! |
| 08:46 | So query_desc should be used somewhere | |
| 08:46 | rangi | hmmm |
| 08:46 | alex_a | hmmm too |
| 08:50 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:52 | rangi | heya drojf |
| 08:52 | kf | hi drojf |
| 08:53 | drojf | hi rangi and kf :) |
| 08:56 | * drojf | giggles about brooke's email |
| 08:59 | kf | drojf: you speak brookish? :) |
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| 09:02 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 09:03 | rangi | hi mtompset |
| 09:04 | kf | hi mt |
| 09:04 | hi mtompset :) | |
| 09:05 | mtompset: http://dashboard.koha-community.org | |
| 09:14 | mtompset | Hi, kf. |
| 09:15 | Sorry for the delay. | |
| 09:15 | kf | np |
| 09:15 | mtompset | Was chatting with my supervisor who has just switched timezones for the next while. |
| 09:16 | Sweet. Which reminds me... I need to look at some of my bugs, and see what happened to them. And figure out that one bug report that just doesn't seem to work when I do a simple rename. | |
| 09:17 | Hi, rangi. Sorry for not scrolling back. | |
| 09:17 | Hi, matts. | |
| 09:18 | rangi | no worries |
| 09:18 | * rangi | goes to look at dpavlin's patch |
| 09:23 | alex_a | kf: Bug 8381 is fixed (i hope). And it should fix the freezing problem too. And you're the one (with me) that can test |
| 09:23 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8381 blocker, P1 - high, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , Paging broken in OPAC search results |
| 09:24 | kf | alex_a: I put it on my pile of things to test a minute ago - hope to get to it soon |
| 09:24 | but have to prepare for a presentation next week | |
| 09:24 | alex_a | kf: okay ! |
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| 09:37 | rangi | signed off 2 |
| 09:37 | the third one needs a lot more testing working on it now | |
| 09:40 | kf | which was the third one? |
| 09:41 | rangi | there are 3 patches on 8418 |
| 09:44 | kf | bug 8418 |
| 09:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data |
| 09:47 | rangi | it solves a bunch of problems |
| 09:48 | if we get it in, and fix the last of the fines one, 3.8.3 should be pretty solid | |
| 09:48 | kf | it sure sounds like it |
| 09:48 | calendar is quite central to circ | |
| 09:51 | slef | hi all |
| 09:51 | rangi | it only manifests in certain situations |
| 09:51 | like all annoying bugs | |
| 09:51 | slef | anyone know a guide/study for consortium use of Koha? |
| 09:52 | rangi: predictable or a heisenbug? | |
| 09:52 | kf | slef: not rangi - predictable depending on configuration |
| 09:53 | I mean I am not rangi, but still answering .P | |
| 09:54 | slef | hehe |
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| 10:17 | * rangi | hopes someone else takes a look at bug 8418, its too late in the night for my brain |
| 10:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data |
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| 10:24 | Amit_Gupta | bug 8415 |
| 10:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Link Serial with Acquisition |
| 10:24 | Amit_Gupta | bug 7910 |
| 10:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Signed Off , Batch renewal of serials and order creation |
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| 10:24 | eythian | hi papa |
| 10:26 | mtompset | heisenbugs?! sucky. |
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| 10:47 | eythian | I see that googling 'koha' doesn't find the main koha-community.org page again :/ |
| 10:47 | rangi | does for me |
| 10:47 | 2nd on the list | |
| 10:48 | eythian | not here |
| 10:48 | rangi | in firefox |
| 10:48 | eythian | yeah |
| 10:48 | rangi | weird |
| 10:48 | fine here | |
| 10:48 | eythian | I get www.koha.org, koha.net, translate.k-c, kohacon12 summary, wikipedia... |
| 10:49 | rangi | what about koha ils |
| 10:49 | eythian | it's second there |
| 10:49 | rangi | so its not what happened the other time, when it wouldnt come up anywhere, just the way they do their ranking is mental |
| 10:50 | eythian | yeah. I'll be getting a combination of language=nl, country=uk results. |
| 10:50 | rangi | yeah |
| 10:50 | eythian | ah, it's half way down page 2 |
| 10:51 | rangi | not enough dutch pages linking to it :) |
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| 10:51 | rangi | who knows, you could go insane trying to guess how it works |
| 10:51 | eythian | ah well, went and '+1'ed it |
| 10:52 | hmm, if I change the 'hl' to 'en', it appears third, after .org and wikipedia | |
| 10:52 | So it very much likely is that | |
| 10:59 | rangi | yep |
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| 11:16 | kf_lunch | hmmmm |
| 11:16 | umlauts in the cart email are broken | |
| 11:16 | *sigh* | |
| 11:16 | * kf_lunch | decides to ignore that right now |
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| 11:41 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 11:41 | kf_lunch | hi oleonard |
| 11:56 | jcamins | Good news! It should be quite easy to integrate my dedup authorities stuff into BibLibre's script. |
| 11:56 | Not vice versa, though. | |
| 11:57 | mtompset | dedup authorities? |
| 11:57 | remove duplicates? | |
| 11:58 | jcamins | Right. |
| 11:58 | mtompset | Oh, you were mentioning something about zebra-ish things on the list.. |
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| 12:10 | jcamins | paul_p_: the follow-up patches for bug 8353 wouldn't apply, so I recreated them. |
| 12:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Passed QA , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql |
| 12:10 | jcamins | Well, the second one wouldn't. |
| 12:11 | I also moved the script to t/db_dependent while I was at it. | |
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| 12:19 | paul_p_ | thx jcamins |
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| 12:31 | clrh | jcamins: great for dedup! |
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| 12:34 | marcelr | paul_p: i am working on bug 7167 again; hoping for the best now.. |
| 12:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
| 12:35 | marcelr | paul-p seems to be paul_p_ |
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| 12:37 | paul_p_ | BibLibre internet access is unstable today :\ |
| 12:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #54 for job Koha_3.6.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 12:49 | Starting build #783 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 21 hr ago) | |
| 12:54 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4334ae7a2f8abe3ef> / Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1f78c9df0f1b11666> / Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g |
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| 12:56 | oleonard | Why is the "OK" output of that script "# No tests run!" ? |
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| 12:59 | oleonard | bornie21: If you have a question about Koha ask it here |
| 13:01 | paul_p | oleonard = it's the way Test::More work it seems |
| 13:02 | bornie21 | thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out |
| 13:03 | paul_p | bornie21 = are you behing a (crazy) proxy by -not really a- chance ? |
| 13:03 | s/behing/behind/, of course | |
| 13:04 | oleonard | bornie21: have you changed Koha's timeout settings in system preferences? |
| 13:04 | paul_p | if you reach another page, have you the same "timeout" thing ? |
| 13:04 | bornie21 | Yeah its still timing me out and the timeout setting is set to 1d |
| 13:07 | I think its failing to save preferences but I was able to that a couple if days ago when i changed the header html | |
| 13:08 | eythian | are you behind a crazy proxy? |
| 13:09 | bornie21 | nope am nt using a proxy |
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| 13:13 | bornie | anybody knws wht could b wrong with my OPAC saving preferences |
| 13:14 | oleonard | bornie: Does your session time out when you're doing other things, or only when working with preferences? |
| 13:14 | bornie | actually when I am doing other things it doesn't bt when I try to save any preference it times out |
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| 13:16 | abc | HI |
| 13:16 | wahanui | niihau, abc |
| 13:16 | bornie | hey |
| 13:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'jcamins/bug_8281_qa' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2c740a3bcf077f342> |
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| 13:33 | mtompset | Did anyone suggest that bornie look at the /var/log/koha/... error logs? |
| 13:34 | marcelr | paul_p: joubu around? |
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| 13:37 | paul_p | marcelr yep |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Why don't we use yaml for permissions? |
| 13:38 | marcelr | hope you do not mind some amendments in 7167 |
| 13:38 | and some typos: including a dangerous one: my $koha39 =~ "3.0900000"; | |
| 13:38 | should be an assignment.. | |
| 13:38 | kf | jcamins: because noone has rewritten it so far :) |
| 13:39 | jcamins: I woud like it - we could get a po file out of yaml too maybe and get rid of the sql files | |
| 13:39 | jcamins | kf: ah. |
| 13:40 | paul_p | kf I think the easiest way to do it would be to put permission descriptions in templates ! |
| 13:40 | kf | paul_p: I think you are right |
| 13:40 | I looked into it once, but it generates the tree view in a way that I didn't want to break | |
| 13:41 | or was scared to break trying to do that... | |
| 13:41 | paul_p | kf = was it with T::T or H::T::P ? |
| 13:41 | bornie | @mtompset I did look at the error log but there is nothing suggesting an error in system preferences |
| 13:41 | huginn | bornie: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 13:41 | kf | paul_p: the tree view uses lots of js |
| 13:41 | so it's with both | |
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| 13:41 | kf | loopnig over stuff and such, I got confused |
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| 13:42 | jcamins | kf: that's why I was suggesting yaml, like with sysprefs. |
| 13:42 | kf | keep the data structure the same, but feed it from elsewhere? |
| 13:42 | you would have to write something to parse a po file out of it too | |
| 13:42 | so maybe not easier | |
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| 13:42 | jcamins | kf: sysprefs aren't translatable? |
| 13:43 | kf | they are |
| 13:43 | paul_p | jcamins yes they are, in a separate file ! |
| 13:43 | kf | yes |
| 13:43 | which is good btw | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | Ah. Separate file is a problem. Got it. |
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| 13:43 | kf | and the syspref translation script is also clever, because it keeps the strings in a good order for translations using comments |
| 13:43 | paul_p | jcamins = it's not really a problem |
| 13:43 | kf | nope |
| 13:44 | not a problem - you only have to think to teach a script to make a po out of it :) | |
| 13:44 | paul_p | just a fact = 3 pos to translate = staff, opac, sysprefs |
| 13:44 | bornie | @ huggin wats a RDA |
| 13:44 | huginn | bornie: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 13:44 | kf | paul_p: I would like to see documentation separated out too |
| 13:44 | I have filed a bug for that | |
| 13:44 | so you could do opac- staff - help - sysprefs | |
| 13:44 | marcelr | paul_p: 7167 |
| 13:44 | kf | the staff file is way too big and a good chunk of that is the help files I think |
| 13:44 | bug 7167 | |
| 13:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
| 13:45 | oleonard | bornie: huginn is a bot who is complaining because you're putting an "@" in front of irc nicks |
| 13:46 | bornie | thnx oleonard I am a newbie and its my first tym here |
| 13:48 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 13:48 | yawns | |
| 13:49 | mtompset | Hello, wizzrea. |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea. | |
| 13:49 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 13:49 | mtompset | I thought it was I geek Libraries? |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | that too :) |
| 13:49 | kf | I geek Koha? :) |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | wizzyrea? |
| 13:50 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE and I GEEK KOHA |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | there you go ;) |
| 13:50 | mtompset | How did you change that? |
| 13:51 | * oleonard | suspects with SCIENCE |
| 13:51 | mtompset | As long as it isn't blinding. ;) |
| 13:51 | libsysguy | libsysguy? |
| 13:51 | wahanui | i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 13:52 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 13:52 | highfives libsysguy | |
| 13:52 | eythian | http://www.topatoco.com/mercha[…]&Category_Code=QC <-- mtompset |
| 13:52 | * wizzyrea | giggles at mtompset |
| 13:52 | mtompset | jcamins, Why is your libchi only 52? ;) |
| 13:52 | * libsysguy | highfives wizzyrea back |
| 13:52 | wizzyrea | he forgot to open his south facing window? |
| 13:53 | * wizzyrea | makes an esoteric feng shui joke |
| 13:53 | mtompset | Oh that is hilarious, eythian. |
| 13:53 | eythian | wahanui: library science is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/mercha[…]&Category_Code=QC |
| 13:53 | wahanui | ...but library science is the kingdom of hacks :)... |
| 13:53 | * wizzyrea | laughs at eythian |
| 13:53 | eythian | no wahanui, library science is <reply>http://www.topatoco.com/mercha[…]&Category_Code=QC |
| 13:53 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 13:54 | mtompset | library science? |
| 13:54 | wahanui | http://www.topatoco.com/mercha[…]&Category_Code=QC |
| 13:54 | * mtompset | laughs. |
| 13:54 | eythian | I've been tempted to get it for wearing to conferences and client meetings. |
| 13:54 | bornie | guys can I go ahead and unistall my koha then |
| 13:55 | mtompset | did you check other error logs other than the koga one? |
| 13:55 | Like the apache ones? | |
| 13:55 | koga should be koha. | |
| 13:56 | eythian | germs |
| 13:56 | germs? | |
| 13:56 | wahanui | Germs originated in Germany, before rapidly spreading throughout the rest of the world. |
| 13:56 | bornie | apache is complaining abt a named virtual hosts |
| 13:56 | wizzyrea | oh and this one for jcamins: http://www.topatoco.com/mercha[…]&Category_Code=QC |
| 13:57 | oleonard | bornie: The fact that your problem is unfamiliar to us suggests it may be a configuration error outside of Koha's scope. That makes it difficult for us to diagnose. |
| 13:57 | bornie | okay thanx for all your efforts |
| 13:58 | jcamins | mtompset: Hehe. |
| 13:59 | Oh, guess those were from eythian and wizzyrea. | |
| 13:59 | oleonard | bornie: Since setting system preferences is an AJAX operation I wonder if there is a problem with your system which would result in the operation being attempted on a different domain or path? I'm just guessing though. |
| 13:59 | eythian | bornie: what browser are you using? |
| 13:59 | bornie | firefox |
| 13:59 | wahanui | i heard firefox was so much better for maximep's use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that |
| 14:00 | wizzyrea | no, wahanui, firefox is koha's preferred browser |
| 14:00 | eythian | OK, that shouldn't be it then. |
| 14:00 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 14:00 | bornie | moremember.pl: Problem = a value of 1 has been passed to param without key at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Templates.pm line 187., referer: http://127.0.1.1:8080/cgi-bin/[…]wernumber=55&step part of the error message i hv found |
| 14:00 | eythian | that's not dealing with system preferences. |
| 14:00 | wizzyrea | I missed what bornie is trying to do |
| 14:01 | the first question? | |
| 14:01 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 14:01 | jcamins | Save sysprefs. |
| 14:01 | oleonard | "thnx I installed koha 3.8 on Ubuntu 12.04 & was trying to customise OPAC Preferences bt I keep getting Error: data might not be saved. session timed out" |
| 14:01 | bornie | okay am trying to customize OPAC and am getting timed out on saving |
| 14:01 | eythian | bornie: have you flushed all related cookies and logged in again, in case something crazy is going on with your session? |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | ^^ this was going to be my suggestion too |
| 14:02 | clear cache, flush cookies | |
| 14:02 | bornie | yep cleared all browser hstry |
| 14:02 | oleonard | And cookies? |
| 14:02 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 14:02 | bornie | yep and all form data too |
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| 14:03 | bornie | problem is it was working well a couple of days ago |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | oooo |
| 14:03 | eythian | bornie: how are you connecting? Is your browser on the Koha server, on the same LAN, or further away? |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | what changed? |
| 14:03 | gaetan_B | anyone using Item Circulation Alerts and can give me explanations ? (is it still really used ?) |
| 14:04 | bornie | just recently added custom html for my header |
| 14:04 | wizzyrea | AHA |
| 14:04 | so | |
| 14:04 | * wizzyrea | has actually, if you can believe it, seen this before |
| 14:04 | wizzyrea | you have something malformed in your html |
| 14:04 | bornie | etythian am actually on the server |
| 14:04 | wizzyrea | you will have to delete what is in your preference from the db |
| 14:04 | eythian | OK. |
| 14:05 | bornie | how do I do that wizzy |
| 14:05 | eythian | bornie: you're using the packages, right? |
| 14:05 | wizzyrea | well, you can *try* deleting it all from the interface |
| 14:05 | oleonard | Try it here: /cgi-bin/koha/admin/systempreferences.pl?tab=OPAC |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | go into the opac preferences, remove the stuff in the header |
| 14:06 | marcelr | paul_p: amending another dangerous typo: _get_queries -> get_queries |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | and save it |
| 14:06 | it *ought* to work | |
| 14:06 | bornie | sorry am kinda new to koha wat packages |
| 14:06 | wizzyrea | if you can't do that |
| 14:06 | we'll talk about nuking it from the database | |
| 14:06 | eythian | bornie: how did you install Koha? (but try what wizzyrea is saying first) |
| 14:07 | bornie | I used the instructions on the koha wiki |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | bornie |
| 14:07 | try just deleting what is in your header | |
| 14:07 | and save the system preferences | |
| 14:07 | see if it works better | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | bornie: which instructions? |
| 14:07 | bornie | ok thnx will see about tht |
| 14:07 | wizzyrea | if we need to we'll do it the hard way |
| 14:07 | but do try the easy way first :) | |
| 14:07 | bornie | ok |
| 14:08 | jcamins:Koha on ubuntu | |
| 14:09 | eythian | pity, I could send you one command to fix it if it were done with packages. |
| 14:09 | (well, to unset the syspref) | |
| 14:11 | wizzyrea | I suspect just removing the html from the preference will allow it to save - but maybe not |
| 14:14 | …I hope that means we fixed | |
| 14:14 | it | |
| 14:15 | jcamins | wizzyrea: or he hit refresh. |
| 14:17 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.6.x build #54: SUCCESS in 1 hr 28 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/54/ |
| 14:17 | * oleonard: Bug 7496 - Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE | |
| 14:18 | * robin: Bug 8001: [SIGNED-OFF] improve styling potential of the tag list | |
| 14:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7604 - Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken | |
| 14:18 | * kyle: Bug 7948 - Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus | |
| 14:18 | * kyle: Bug 3521 - Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically | |
| 14:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7496 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Personally identifying information sent in opac user TITLE |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref |
| 14:18 | * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Add some styling to the tags to allow them to be distinctive |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove |
| 14:18 | * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! | |
| 14:18 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue | |
| 14:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7604 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Link on basket group name for closed basket groups is broken |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7948 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Printing transfer slip loses barcode field focus | |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements |
| 14:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements | |
| 14:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3521 trivial, P3, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Stable , Items table in catalogue/detail.pl and cataloguing/additem.pl is sorted nonsensically |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ |
| 14:18 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron | |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 8140 - [SIGNED-OFF] Error when exporting label xml |
| 14:18 | * oleonard: Bug 7599 - [SIGNED-OFF] Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings | |
| 14:18 | * jcamins: Bug 7847: OPAC search dies with Plack | |
| 14:18 | * oleonard: Bug 8111 - Language chooser display problem in self-checkout | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue | |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * kolpen: Bug 8116 : Fixing warn in error log |
| 14:18 | * paul.poulain: Welcome to Piotr Kowalski, that is 183th | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 8082: Fixing circulation.pref to match reality for IssuingInProcess |
| 14:18 | * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 Self Check Should Capture Hold Items | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8140 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Error when exporting label xml |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 3638 : Captured Holds may need to generate a transfer |
| 14:18 | * colin.campbell: Bug 8176 [SIGNED-OFF] Assign an intial value to $sqlwhere | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7599 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Cart JavaScript contains untranslatable English strings |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * mjr: bug 7894 [SIGNED-OFF]: crude fix: convert results array into an arrayref |
| 14:18 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 8201: Receive date not passed through correctly | |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , OPAC search dies with plack |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Good grief. |
| 14:18 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7548: Missing arguments when receiving orders |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8111 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Language chooser display problem in self-checkout |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8116 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Stable , z3950 empty search causes silent warning in koha-error_log | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8082 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , The: IssuingInProcess configuration setting is working in reverse. | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3638 normal, P2, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Status of hold not changed when item checked in via SIP2 Interface | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , $sqlwhere is undefined in C4::Serials in GetSubscriptions | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8201 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , can't change receive date | |
| 14:18 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7548 normal, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , Missing arguments in the pagination of receptions | |
| 14:18 | jcamins | Sorry about that. |
| 14:19 | * oleonard | moans 'Oh, the scrolling!' |
| 14:19 | kf | oh wow |
| 14:19 | marcelr | :) |
| 14:19 | kf | ah marcelr++ btw :) |
| 14:19 | marcelr | ? |
| 14:19 | kf | tackling all those big patches for qa :) |
| 14:19 | marcelr | bug 7167 should really pass now but. .. |
| 14:19 | jcamins | 3.6.7 should be pretty nice. :) |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , updatedatabase improvements |
| 14:20 | jcamins | kf: there was no 3.6.x patch for e-mailing carts. |
| 14:21 | kf | it's ok |
| 14:21 | we fixed it with separate templates | |
| 14:21 | marcelr | paul_p: still there? |
| 14:21 | wahanui | there is, like, no spoon. or something like the second with holes like the first... or a patch from jared soemwhere removing some of the nozebra code |
| 14:21 | kf | and we also fixed acq manually |
| 14:21 | so at the moment it's not hurting so much | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | I replaced the file with conflicts with the version from 3.8.x and applied the patch to 3.6-testing, but that will need to be tested prior to going into 3.6.8. |
| 14:22 | * jcamins | heads into the city. |
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| 14:23 | paul_p | marcelr = yep, i'm still here |
| 14:23 | marcelr | paul_p: i am amending the patch |
| 14:23 | but still finding errors | |
| 14:24 | i will submit it soon but need your testing again | |
| 14:24 | paul_p | marcelr = you can count on me !!! |
| 14:25 | marcelr | how long will you be there still? |
| 14:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #783: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/783/ |
| 14:39 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5644 : Fixing dropbox mode calculation | |
| 14:39 | * oleonard: Bug 8283 - Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin | |
| 14:39 | * dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version | |
| 14:39 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7411: Follop-up: Add Text::Unaccent to PerlDependencies.pm | |
| 14:39 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6394: purchase order has French strings hard coded in | |
| 14:39 | * henridamien.laurent: Bug 8353: Adds a test to check for missing sysprefs in the database | |
| 14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date |
| 14:39 | jenkins_koha | * jcamins: Bug 8353 follow-up: Perltidy new test |
| 14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8283 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace usage of YUI Cookie utility with jQuery Cookie plugin |
| 14:39 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 8353 follow-up adding a tiny sh in misc/maintenance |
| 14:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha |
| 14:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7411 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , remove diacritics when automatically generating userid | |
| 14:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6394 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , purchase order has french hard coded in | |
| 14:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien.laurent, Pushed to Master , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql | |
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| 14:40 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #784 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 8 days 23 hr ago) |
| 14:40 | paul_p_ | and another internet connexion failure... |
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| 14:40 | * oleonard | regrets that the low-hanging fruit is gone in his YUI-removal project |
| 14:40 | kf | oleonard: I love all the new updated elements |
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| 14:42 | kf | oleonard: what is missing? |
| 14:42 | wahanui | i guess missing is usualy library only, an item that's not out |
| 14:43 | oleonard | Menus and buttons mostly. I was also hoping to be able to replace the greybox library with jQueryUI Dialog, but that turned out to be more complex than I anticipated |
| 14:43 | Greybox does some things out of the box that I'm having trouble replicating with jqueryUI dialog | |
| 14:45 | The drag and drop stuff in basketgroups will have to be updated too. | |
| 14:46 | kf | oleonard: hm I think buttons would be nice |
| 14:46 | but lots of work | |
| 14:46 | maybe can be done in steps? | |
| 14:46 | * kf | could help |
| 14:47 | kf | it would be awesome to get it all done for 3.10 |
| 14:48 | oleonard | Buttons and menus are tied together so closely that they really have to be done at the same time |
| 14:49 | kf | ah ok |
| 14:49 | any news on the menu developmentß | |
| 14:49 | ? | |
| 14:50 | http://wiki.jqueryui.com/w/page/12137997/Menu | |
| 14:50 | still in developement it seems :( | |
| 14:50 | oleonard | Yeah |
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| 15:12 | nengard | is there a way in git to remove all branches but the one you're on? |
| 15:12 | I need to do a purge cause I have way too many branches that I don't need/use | |
| 15:12 | and don't want to delete them one by one | |
| 15:12 | eythian | I never delete branches |
| 15:12 | but you can't delete the one you're on anyway | |
| 15:13 | so, I'd delete everything. | |
| 15:13 | (and it'll leave that one behind) | |
| 15:13 | nengard | and how do i do that? |
| 15:13 | eythian | for br in `git branch` ; do git branch -D $br ; done |
| 15:13 | something like that (untested obviously) | |
| 15:13 | nengard | heh |
| 15:14 | eythian | I'm 5 branches short of 200, I can't delete them now anyway ;) |
| 15:16 | nengard | is 200 a magic number? |
| 15:16 | eythian | no, it's just round. |
| 15:16 | nengard | oh :) |
| 15:16 | slef | eythian: $(git branch) not `git branch` Shirley? |
| 15:17 | eythian | slef: for throwaway commands, it makes no difference. |
| 15:17 | (also: habit :) | |
| 15:17 | nengard | slef so --- for br in $(git branch) ; do git branch -D $br ; done |
| 15:18 | slef | nengard: I don't see why not... it's not how I'd write it, but it's only dialectal differences ;-) |
| 15:18 | nengard | eythian's way worked |
| 15:18 | thank you both! | |
| 15:19 | i'm one of those people who likes things clean and i had a ton of junk in there | |
| 15:19 | slef | eythian: git branch | while read br ; do git branch -D "$br" ; done # because you just know someone will put a space in a branch name one day ;-) |
| 15:20 | eythian | yeah, it's just slef typing with a funny accent :) |
| 15:20 | slef | I always type "git branch -l" too... not sure why |
| 15:20 | eythian: git branch -l | xargs git branch -D | |
| 15:20 | eythian | if someone puts a space in a branch name, they deserve everything they get :) |
| 15:20 | that would be a better solution, yeah | |
| 15:21 | slef | now with ADDED xargs! MORE angels on EVERY pin! |
| 15:21 | eythian | heh |
| 15:22 | git branch -D `git branch` if you want to avoid a pipe | |
| 15:22 | slef | string reparsing or a pipe... tough choice |
| 15:22 | eythian | yeah |
| 15:22 | slef | can we get a nonlinear pipe in there somehow? |
| 15:22 | eythian | also, this isn't the early 80's any more. |
| 15:22 | slef | bash thinks it is |
| 15:23 | eythian | I dunno, command completion is pretty hefty |
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| 15:27 | slef | what's a doublon? |
| 15:27 | No definitions found for "doublon", perhaps you mean: gcide: Doubloon wn: doubloon moby-thes: doubloon | |
| 15:27 | # recover the category type if the borrowers is a doublon | |
| 15:27 | memberentry.pl:222 | |
| 15:28 | Doubloon \Doub*loon"\, n. [F. doublon, Sp. doblon. See {Double}, a., and cf. {Dupion}.] A Spanish gold coin, no longer issued, varying in value at different times from over fifteen dollars to about five. See {Doblon} in Sup. [1913 Webster] | |
| 15:28 | errr, seems a bit unlikely | |
| 15:28 | anyone here got a library that issues books to gold coins? | |
| 15:29 | gaetan_B | bye :) |
| 15:29 | slef | that thing that could be a doublon is the second element returned by checkuniquemember |
| 15:29 | eythian | slef: I expect jcamins_away would be the closest :) |
| 15:29 | slef | numismatics :) |
| 15:29 | eythian | gaetan_B: see you shortly :) |
| 15:30 | slef | C4::Members calls it "C<&categorycode> is from categorycode table" |
| 15:31 | which is actually wrong because it takes it from borrowers table! | |
| 15:31 | anyway, that doesn't matter right now | |
| 15:38 | jcamins | slef: the ANS only let's people read books about coins, not coins read books about people. ;) |
| 15:41 | eythian | no jcamins, in Soviet Russia, coins read books about numismaticists. |
| 15:42 | * jcamins | waves to larryb |
| 15:42 | larryb | Hey jcamins |
| 15:42 | wahanui | i heard jcamins was A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
| 15:43 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #784: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/784/ |
| 15:43 | oleonard: Bug 8281 - Remove unused YUI files | |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8281 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Remove unused YUI files |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Hmm. Looks like the 3.6-testing branch failed some tests. |
| 15:44 | (if it hadn't, it would've been pushed a half hour ago or so) | |
| 15:44 | nengard | been working on db documentation again bug 6716 could use some review/sign off |
| 15:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6716 enhancement, P3, ---, nengard, Needs Signoff , Database Documentation |
| 15:44 | nengard | should be pretty easy |
| 15:44 | doing more today | |
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| 15:49 | jcamins | paul_p_: do you have a repo with your RM scripts? |
| 15:49 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:49 | paul_p_ | jcamins nope, but I planned to send them to the next RM ;-) |
| 15:50 | jcamins | paul_p_: ah. |
| 15:50 | You should. :) | |
| 15:50 | paul_p_ | basically, I have 2 or 3 only. Plus git hooks that are already on the wiki |
| 15:50 | jcamins = should I push them to contribs/ReleaseManagement/paul_p/*, for example ? | |
| 15:51 | jcamins | That'd be very useful. :) |
| 15:51 | Or you could push them to release-tools. | |
| 15:53 | * jcamins | improved his juggernaut script release-tool.pl to automatically push if all the tests pass, thus allowing the computer to spend several hours running tests while he is asleep. |
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| 15:55 | eythian | nengard: unless there's something unusual going on with your email, I think your computer clock is way wrong. |
| 15:55 | nengard | hmmm |
| 15:56 | Thu Jul 12 09:23:22 EDT 2012 | |
| 15:56 | not WAY | |
| 15:56 | but yes, wrong | |
| 15:56 | it always happens to my VM | |
| 15:56 | no one has given me a foolproof way to stop that from happening | |
| 15:56 | eythian | well, for a computer, anything outside of 10 seconds is way wrong ;) |
| 15:56 | jcamins | Enable ntp. |
| 15:56 | eythian | what is your VM running? |
| 15:56 | jcamins: ntp gives up if things are miles out. | |
| 15:56 | jcamins | eythian: really? |
| 15:57 | eythian | I think so. |
| 15:57 | what I really mean is "what is your VM software?" | |
| 15:57 | nengard | yeah i think we tried ntp |
| 15:57 | i'm on debian | |
| 15:57 | and i don't have the vm on all the time | |
| 15:57 | so it loses time | |
| 15:57 | oh | |
| 15:57 | virtualbox | |
| 15:57 | wahanui | virtualbox is good for that sort of thing |
| 15:57 | eythian | do you sleep it? |
| 15:57 | nengard | no i turn it off |
| 15:58 | no need for it to be running | |
| 15:58 | just like those extra branches :) | |
| 15:58 | eythian | hmm, it should come back with system time when it restarts. |
| 15:58 | nengard | it's on most of the work week |
| 15:58 | eythian | time in VMs is always a pain. |
| 15:58 | nengard | and then i turn it off on the weekends |
| 15:58 | people have been saying that to me for years but it never seems to happen that way | |
| 15:58 | ropuch | Hello #koha :) |
| 15:58 | paul_p_ | 6PM here, *lot* of work done on koha (patches QAed, pushed, ...), time for my family now ! |
| 15:58 | nengard | now i have a script i run when i turn the vm on to run zebra and other crons |
| 15:59 | can i add the date function to that in some way? | |
| 15:59 | jcamins | I have never had a problem with the clock on my VM, and I don't run it all the time. |
| 15:59 | nengard | paul_p++ |
| 15:59 | jcamins then i want to know your secret | |
| 15:59 | for now though i manually fixed it and i'll continue writing patches :) | |
| 15:59 | eythian | nengard: two things: make sure virtualbox-ose-guest-utils and virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms are installed in the VM |
| 16:00 | nengard: and yes, you can add 'ntpdate to an hourly cron job to keep things in sync. | |
| 16:00 | jcamins | nengard: I don't think I did anything special. |
| 16:00 | nengard | eythian, i don't have crons running, i'm just manually running everything once when i turn the vm back on cause i don't need them running all the time |
| 16:00 | and how do i check to see if those are installed | |
| 16:00 | ? | |
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| 16:01 | jcamins | Or ntpd -g -q |
| 16:01 | eythian | nengard: apt-cache policy |
| 16:01 | ropuch | Open Source |
| 16:01 | wahanui | well, Open Source is strong and solid partly because different people are working through the system |
| 16:01 | ropuch | Uh |
| 16:01 | eythian | nengard: but you will have a cron daemon running, it'd be weird not to. |
| 16:01 | ropuch | Running hwclock on boot time should do the trick also |
| 16:02 | nengard | okay apt-cache policy did not show those 2 files you mentioned |
| 16:02 | eythian | ok, then apt-get install them |
| 16:02 | It's very likely to make difference | |
| 16:02 | nengard | installing |
| 16:02 | eythian | (it lets debian talk directly to the host to get that sort of info) |
| 16:02 | nengard | and ropuch what is hwclock? |
| 16:03 | do i need it if these installs work? | |
| 16:03 | eythian | no |
| 16:03 | nengard | k |
| 16:03 | jcamins | man 8 hwclock |
| 16:03 | eythian | it's a thing that syncs between hardware and system clocks |
| 16:03 | though, I don't know what the hardware clock would do in a VM anyway, | |
| 16:03 | ropuch | eythian: yea, I just scrolled the log back and I don;t think that will help nengard |
| 16:03 | nengard: forget about hwclock ;> | |
| 16:04 | nengard | hehe |
| 16:04 | will do | |
| 16:04 | erased from my memory | |
| 16:06 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "eythian: this is what i see after installing those packages .... think maybe they didn't really install :)" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/28 |
| 16:06 | eythian | oh |
| 16:06 | I miswrote: | |
| 16:06 | apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms | |
| 16:07 | it'll say something like: virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms: | |
| 16:07 | Geïnstalleerd: 3.2.10-dfsg-1 | |
| 16:07 | Kandidaat: 3.2.10-dfsg-1 | |
| 16:07 | pastebot | "nengard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "is this better?" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/29 |
| 16:07 | nengard | yep |
| 16:07 | i think that's right | |
| 16:07 | eythian | yes, except where it says '(none)' that should be a version |
| 16:07 | nengard | hmmm |
| 16:08 | this one: "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms " gave me some 404 errors | |
| 16:08 | this one: " apt-get install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils" seemed to work | |
| 16:08 | eythian | ah, then run sudo apt-get update first |
| 16:08 | your packages list is out of date I suspect. | |
| 16:08 | nengard | yup .. seems that way |
| 16:08 | stuff being downloaded | |
| 16:09 | * slef | goes for a coffee break before testing his fix to bug 6697 |
| 16:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons |
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| 16:13 | nengard | eythian okay it's installed |
| 16:13 | now what? | |
| 16:13 | wahanui | now is good time with holidays coming up |
| 16:13 | nengard | is it just magic? |
| 16:13 | eythian | should be, yeah |
| 16:13 | nengard | we'll see next week :) |
| 16:13 | thank you! | |
| 16:13 | eythian | It _might_ be working now, or it may take a reboot of the guest OS. |
| 16:13 | nengard | okay - i'll do that at lunch |
| 16:15 | hmmmm ? what's this table? | |
| 16:15 | Default checkout, hold and return policy | |
| 16:15 | oops | |
| 16:15 | paste wrong | |
| 16:15 | default_borrower_circ_rules; | |
| 16:16 | mine has data but i don't know where it's coming from | |
| 16:16 | in my table it looks like the categorycode is actually the itype - not a patron category | |
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| 16:18 | jcamins | marcelr++ # for spending a lot of time on bug 7167 |
| 16:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7167 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , updatedatabase improvements |
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| 16:20 | Shane-S | could anyone direct me to the best documentation for installing 3.8.2 on Ubuntu 10.04... I remember using http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages with 3.6.4 and having issues |
| 16:21 | eythian | Shane-S: the packages work on 12.04, with one issue that I'm hoping to fix soon. |
| 16:21 | fwiw. | |
| 16:21 | slef | packages? |
| 16:21 | wahanui | packages is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 16:21 | oleonard | Shane-S: Or you could refer to the INSTALL file included with Koha |
| 16:21 | jcamins | Shane-S: there are even more dependencies that won't be in Lucid. |
| 16:21 | Shane-S: 12.04 is a LTS release. | |
| 16:21 | I would seriously consider using it. | |
| 16:21 | Shane-S | okay I will have to try that then |
| 16:21 | slef | Shane-S: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian for packages, INSTALL.* files included with Koha for "straight" install. |
| 16:22 | jcamins | In fact, I would go so far as to say you should not use Lucid for 3.8+ |
| 16:22 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu has instructions for installing Koha on Lucid, but, as I know I've already told you, better to use packages. | |
| 16:23 | eythian | You _will_ encounter an issue with database permissions however. |
| 16:23 | Shane-S | that sounds manageable |
| 16:24 | I had Zebra issues with 10.04 3.6.4 and you all help me get it working, but I want to no mess with it, as this will be my production install | |
| 16:24 | Ill go make a 12.04 VM | |
| 16:24 | eythian | all you need to do is manually create a new mysql user, and you can't use '%' as wildcard like you can in older versions. |
| 16:25 | (which is why it breaks koha at the moment) | |
| 16:25 | Shane-S | does desktop matter? |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Woohoo! I love thorough testing! |
| 16:25 | eythian | I tend to not to do desktop, but realistically it doesn't. |
| 16:26 | Shane-S | I don't need major power we have under 10K books, realistically 6K but they never clear their old records |
| 16:26 | eythian | within reason, size of the collection doesn't matter terribly much, especially not at those levels. |
| 16:27 | jcamins | Shane-S: Desktop vs. Server is basically just a difference between what's installed by default. |
| 16:27 | FWIW, I never use desktop. | |
| 16:28 | Shane-S | just trying to remember if the gui is an option or if I have to look up how to apt-get it |
| 16:28 | jcamins | You probably shouldn't be allowing anyone to use the server directly. |
| 16:29 | Shane-S | its for me, I like my mouse :P |
| 16:29 | eythian | but you don't actually use the mouse when running a server. |
| 16:30 | Shane-S | I do for the browser and IRC |
| 16:30 | eythian | I also don't actually work directly on the server, I ssh into it from a real desktop machine. |
| 16:30 | (even if that server is in a VM on my desktop machine) | |
| 16:30 | slef | browse+IRC from workstation, not server, or are you short of computers? |
| 16:31 | jcamins | Yeah, what they said. |
| 16:31 | slef | if so, I think there's an argument for working on the server |
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| 16:31 | slef | else it's a bit of an unnecessary risk, what with all the nasties on the internet |
| 16:32 | Shane-S | Well, I try to remote when I can, but sometimes it helps to be in there as it is more a get away from interruptions and focus kind of deal |
| 16:32 | when I am at my desk people come to my door with the "Are you busy?" question and proceed to give me their issues before I go "Yes I am@" | |
| 16:32 | eythian | I have noise cancelling headphones for that :) |
| 16:33 | Shane-S | okay well I will go with server, no gui and see how I fair |
| 16:33 | its a VM anyway right now | |
| 16:33 | then I have to see if I can import it inot my server running ESXi | |
| 16:34 | eythian | Shane-S: if you install from packages, you can use koha-dump and koha-restore if moving the VM itself is tricky. |
| 16:35 | Shane-S | oh cool, I am hoping to move the VM, because I am networkless atm in work. I had to remove my server racks which held all the servers and main switches for asbestos removal |
| 16:35 | supposed to be done this week, I will see | |
| 16:36 | so I am working at home with my computer and Virtual Box in the hopes I can migrate my installs | |
| 16:36 | eythian | ah right |
| 16:36 | it is technically possible to export a vbox vm and load into a vmware thing, I think, but I've never done it. | |
| 16:36 | well, vbox can import vmware images, so I assume it can export them... | |
| 16:37 | Shane-S | yeah and it should be able to do the open format as well both support it (escaping me now think it is vox) |
| 16:38 | eythian | ah, I just presumed that vmware wouldn't support that :) |
| 16:38 | BrianJPS | Hey all, I'm interested in using Koha for a small library. I'm trying to figure out what are the pre reqs for running it and just how to get started. I'm on a windows-based system and am a bit of a layman. Could someone help? |
| 16:39 | eythian | BrianJPS: the basic prereq is a Linux server, Koha itself won't run on Windows (though you can access it from windows.) |
| 16:39 | jcamins | BrianJPS: you'll want to use VirtualBox for testing, since Koha runs under Linux. |
| 16:39 | * eythian | is done for the day I think, last day in Brighton. |
| 16:41 | BrianJPS | alright, and with a Linux server it'll be straight forward to get started? |
| 16:41 | eythian | BrianJPS: if you have experience with working with Linux, fairly. |
| 16:42 | BrianJPS | great, thanks |
| 16:42 | jcamins | packages? |
| 16:42 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 16:42 | jcamins | ^^ that page explains how to install Koha. |
| 16:42 | BrianJPS | excellent, I'll check it out |
| 16:50 | Shane-S | what server option should i check beyond LAMP if any to help with the install later? |
| 16:50 | jcamins | SSH. |
| 16:50 | Very important. | |
| 16:51 | Actually, that's the only thing I install. | |
| 16:51 | Base distribution and SSH. | |
| 16:51 | Shane-S | oh I am just at the core screen, where you can pick DNS, so do you mean the openSSH option? |
| 16:52 | jcamins | That's what I meant. |
| 16:52 | Shane-S | okay thanks |
| 16:52 | jcamins | It has about five options, I think. "Base distribution," "Database," maybe "Web server," and "OpenSSH," at least. |
| 16:53 | Shane-S | yeah there a bunch of options |
| 16:53 | i always do lamp, never did the SSH one | |
| 16:54 | oh lunch....I should get some of that too! | |
| 16:55 | jcamins | I choose only "Base distribution" (or whatever they call it) and "OpenSSH) |
| 16:56 | Shane-S | lol I love my system...ith 6 CPU cores, I am running a game, virtual box, irc, and firefox, and I am only at 20% load, with 10Gb ram left :P |
| 16:57 | only 1 VM in VB though, so I am sure the ram will go down lots more as I launch more vms | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 16:57 | At some point I will break down and get a desktop. | |
| 16:58 | Shane-S | it only cost me $800 in parts 2 years ago, grnated I recycled my case, DVD-RWs, and 1 HD, but should run someone like 400 or less today |
| 16:59 | downfall is mY HD, I want to get a solid state | |
| 16:59 | jcamins | The thing is that if I wait a year and a half, it'll cost that much for something twice as fast. |
| 16:59 | Shane-S | just don't have the $600 to spend to get 500Gb |
| 17:00 | yeah only issue with hardware, obsolete the moment you hit "checkout" :) | |
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| 17:02 | Shane-S | I do miss my Macbook Pro through, it had a lovely 4-5 hours of battery life |
| 17:02 | my boss'es kids spilled soda on hers, so I had to give her mine, as that was all she had | |
| 17:03 | now I have my crappy old HP laptop that dies in 45 minutes | |
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| 17:17 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 17:22 | slef | kf wins today's nonsequitur award! |
| 17:22 | * jcamins | followed just fine. |
| 17:22 | kf | the what award? |
| 17:23 | jcamins | A "non sequitur" is a statement that doesn't follow from the previous conversation. |
| 17:23 | kf | ah |
| 17:23 | well, jcamins followed just fine :P | |
| 17:23 | jcamins | Usually I win that award with observations like "the problem with blackberries is that the seeds are too hard for the immersion blender to chop up." |
| 17:23 | Though oleonard knew what I was talking about when I said that yesterday. | |
| 17:24 | kf | I do too |
| 17:24 | you got blackberries this week | |
| 17:25 | jcamins | I did. And why was I trying to chop up the seeds in the immersion blender? |
| 17:25 | kf | hmmmmmmmm |
| 17:25 | salad? | |
| 17:25 | wahanui | salad is a definite possibility. |
| 17:25 | jcamins | Smoothie. |
| 17:25 | kf | aaah would have been my next guess ;) |
| 17:44 | datadoctor | idreambooks wrote back to me - they offer a free read-o-meter widget, but most materials have only been reviewed by a few dozen people - they are working on their API, and need reviews for more materials. |
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| 17:45 | datadoctor | So their read-o-meter is cool, but doesn't have the data backing it up yet. |
| 17:45 | jcamins | datadoctor: you could probably incorporate that into Koha with jQuery? |
| 17:45 | datadoctor | Yes, jquery :) |
| 17:47 | jcamins | Of course, I guess there's no point if they don't have useful data. |
| 17:47 | datadoctor | I like the concept, free access to book reviews - maybe it will catch on - they should probably put some of their funding toward getting librarians to review new books for their site! |
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| 17:57 | datadoctor | I'm installing 3.8 today, and wondering about the best method - do you recommend the git method or the download for Debian? Or a combination approach? |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Packages for production, git for development. |
| 17:57 | datadoctor | That makes sense. |
| 18:00 | Am I going to need to download a bunch of cpan stuff separately, or is that a part of the packages? | |
| 18:01 | jcamins | All part of the packages. |
| 18:01 | No CPANing involved. | |
| 18:01 | datadoctor | Cool. Thanks! |
| 18:01 | jcamins | At least, I don't think there is. |
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| 18:15 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 18:15 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 18:15 | drojf | hey cait :) |
| 18:16 | cait | a coworker told me a story today |
| 18:16 | drojf | showed my coworker bugzilla. she even tried a sandbox |
| 18:16 | cait | about that guy who was running koha on a raspberry pi |
| 18:16 | drojf | hewh |
| 18:16 | heh | |
| 18:17 | cait | :) |
| 18:18 | drojf | so, will you change to a rack full of raspberry pi for koha? :) |
| 18:24 | nengard | anyone know what issuingrules.restrictedtype is for? |
| 18:24 | it's NULL for all of my rules | |
| 18:33 | drojf | kohacon 2013 voting frenzy seems to be over |
| 18:33 | cait | yeah |
| 18:33 | jcamins | drojf: Nigeria is well ahead? |
| 18:33 | drojf | everybody used up all their twenty email addresses? :P |
| 18:33 | jcamins | lol |
| 18:33 | drojf | jcamins: a little |
| 18:35 | jcamins | Deadline is Wednesday? |
| 18:36 | drojf | i think its tuesday |
| 18:36 | 17th afair | |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 18:38 | Is there any way to sort serial issues on the OPAC by issue date/number rather than received date? | |
| 18:38 | cait | hm there is a patch to change the sorting |
| 18:38 | but I tink it's not by date number | |
| 18:38 | jcamins | I feel like I discussed this with someone before, and there is, but I'm not sure when. |
| 18:38 | cait | because there are numbering schemes where that would not work out |
| 18:38 | I think it was changed to be publication date | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | Ah, yup. |
| 18:39 | That's what I meant. | |
| 18:40 | cait | i think the patch is there, maybe even waiting for signoff still |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Signed off. :) |
| 18:41 | cait | cool |
| 18:41 | jcamins | Once you told me where to look, I found it. |
| 18:41 | cait | bug memory :) |
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| 18:52 | nengard | I'll probably do it on Weds to make up for any time diff changes |
| 18:52 | jcamins | Do what? |
| 18:53 | It's already signed off by Elliott. | |
| 18:53 | cait | closing the vote I think |
| 18:53 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 18:53 | Got it. | |
| 18:53 | nengard | yes |
| 18:53 | sorry | |
| 18:53 | doing too many things at once | |
| 18:54 | drojf | i think it should be known beforehand when the vote is closed |
| 18:54 | cait | nengard: the tags thing has a bug in htere, it happened when we removed the nonsense tooltip |
| 18:55 | nengard | okay |
| 18:55 | drojf i told everyone the 17th was the last day to vote | |
| 18:55 | so when I wake up on the 18th I'll close it | |
| 18:55 | but I can send a reminder out | |
| 18:55 | drojf | alright. it sounded a little like "when i feel like" ;) |
| 18:56 | Shane-S | can I pull up the readme from less /usr/share/doc/koha-common/README.Debian online anywhere so I can work in two windows |
| 18:57 | jcamins | README.Debian? Never heard of that file. |
| 18:57 | wizzyrea | he means install.debian i thikn |
| 18:57 | jcamins | But install.debian doesn't explain how to use packages. |
| 18:57 | packages? | |
| 18:57 | wahanui | somebody said packages was at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 18:57 | jcamins | ^^ just follow those instructions |
| 18:58 | wizzyrea | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]LL.debian;hb=HEAD but do it from the wiki. |
| 18:59 | Shane-S | The wiki says "Read the README.Debian file for instructions on how to configure Koha after the package is installed. " |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 18:59 | Hm. | |
| 18:59 | * jcamins | still has never heard of that file. |
| 18:59 | Shane-S | and it talks about enabling Apache mods, database stuff, all commands I have to issue, but the README is in my way :P |
| 19:00 | jcamins | But... |
| 19:00 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee733a163;hb=HEAD | |
| 19:01 | Shane-S | there we go, thanks that one was it :P |
| 19:01 | no I can put my pen and paper away :D | |
| 19:01 | Thank you jcamins | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 19:01 | You're welcome. | |
| 19:01 | BTW, you know the point of installing SSH was so that you could SSH into the server and have multiple terminals open, right? | |
| 19:02 | ago43 | Hi, any jquery pro's out there? http://pastebin.com/gmv1Bwfk |
| 19:03 | * jcamins | tries to avoid correcting the apostrophe, fails. :P |
| 19:04 | wizzyrea | ago is that everything that's in there? |
| 19:05 | what is the entire contents of opacuserjs | |
| 19:05 | ago43 | lemme check that. I was copying from an e-mail, so maybe that's not all. |
| 19:05 | Shane-S | jcamins: I am fighting with Virtual Box right now ...it setup the network with NAT so I have to add rules...so I am just working from the VB screen |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Shane-S: ah. Gotcha. |
| 19:05 | * wizzyrea | has had that happen, it was always related to a missing somethingerother in another statement *before* the one I added. |
| 19:06 | ago43 | ahh. |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Or a string change. |
| 19:07 | You should add a class or id. | |
| 19:07 | slef | jcamins: fessional is omitted |
| 19:07 | jcamins | slef: lol |
| 19:07 | Shane-S | Apache... Listen 80 do I add space 8080 or another listen line |
| 19:07 | jcamins | I don't buy it. |
| 19:07 | Another line. | |
| 19:07 | Shane-S | ty |
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| 19:08 | oleonard | Works for me ago43 |
| 19:08 | ago43 | thanks. then wizzy must be right about an earlier entry causing the problem. |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Also, I can't save preferences because it says my session has timed out! |
| 19:09 | * wizzyrea | gives oleonard "the look" |
| 19:09 | Shane-S | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ee733a163;hb=HEAD Line 25, I assume that mean doing Listen edit OR the alternate and not just if you did the alternate? |
| 19:09 | oleonard | Seriously. |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | … really? |
| 19:10 | jcamins | Shane-S: if you are using virtual hosts, you don't need to add the Listen. |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | it's infectious today |
| 19:10 | jcamins | However, there is no harm in doing the Listen anyway. |
| 19:10 | oleonard | "NetworkError: 400 Bad Request - http://localhost:8888/cgi-bin/[…]ystempreferences/" |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | master? |
| 19:11 | wahanui | master is for 3.6 |
| 19:11 | oleonard | Yes |
| 19:11 | wizzyrea | 1s |
| 19:11 | jcamins | wahanui: forget master |
| 19:11 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot master |
| 19:12 | jcamins | That does not look right. |
| 19:12 | Shane-S | jcamins: I thought that was for apache to know if I do 10.0.0.1:8080 it will load, how does the VM affect that? |
| 19:12 | jcamins | Shane-S: the VM does not affect it at all. You just set up NAT to point whichever ports you want to 10.0.0.1:8080 |
| 19:12 | Shane-S | wow jcamins has a person bot slave the forgets random stuff! |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | hm |
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| 19:13 | wizzyrea | I can save them |
| 19:13 | what do you have in your opacuserjs/ | |
| 19:13 | Shane-S | jcamins: yeah so I could redirect 8080 to 80, but I thought Koha used 8080 for something |
| 19:13 | jcamins | Shane-S: 80 is for the OPAC, 8080 is for the staff client. |
| 19:14 | Apparently the query is supposed to end with a slash. | |
| 19:14 | * wizzyrea | thinks it feels odd to ask oleonard what is in his opacuserjs |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Odd. |
| 19:15 | oleonard | Don't be shy wizzyrea, ask away. We're all grownups. |
| 19:15 | cait | lol |
| 19:16 | oleonard | First I had nothing, then I had ago43's snippet. In neither case can I save via preferences.pl (using systempreferences.pl works) |
| 19:17 | Ah, and I'll bet I know what has changed... | |
| 19:17 | * oleonard | checks |
| 19:18 | * Shane-S | feels like the README is missing the "disbale apache default site instruction...and he can't remember the built in line |
| 19:19 | jcamins | sudo a2dissite default |
| 19:19 | Shane-S | ty |
| 19:20 | slef | it might be missing because if you do that and you have another site on there -> brokenness |
| 19:20 | oleonard | Okay, yeah. What changed is that I set the timeout setting from 12000000 to 1d |
| 19:20 | slef | mmm, old pennies! |
| 19:20 | Shane-S | okay now I get software errors, looks like the user error you spoke of earlier, just need to give access permissions to the MySQL db for that user correct? |
| 19:20 | jcamins | Shane-S: right. |
| 19:21 | slef | mysql_setpermission |
| 19:21 | oleonard | ...because that's what bornie21 had changed it to |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Isn't it supposed to be in milliseconds? |
| 19:24 | oleonard | "Adding d will specify it in days, e.g. 1d is timeout of one day. " |
| 19:24 | jcamins | Huh. |
| 19:24 | Didn't know that. | |
| 19:24 | cait | it's quite new |
| 19:24 | well old ad rediscovered | |
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| 19:25 | oleonard | Bug 6701 |
| 19:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
| 19:25 | jcamins | Ooh, I think I pushed that 3.6.x. |
| 19:25 | I shall revert. | |
| 19:26 | oleonard | That's just the description change |
| 19:26 | I don't know about the underlying code | |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Right... if it doesn't tell you that you can enter "1d" no one will think they can. |
| 19:27 | slef | should members/member.pl search town/city? |
| 19:28 | @query town | |
| 19:29 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3766 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Cities/Towns and Road Types only on one address |
| 19:30 | * oleonard | is off |
| 19:30 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 19:30 | cait | bye oleonard |
| 19:35 | Shane-S | okay so I manually did a grant all on koha_nps.* TO 'koha_nps'@'localhost'; and droped the user with the % for the location and I still have the software error |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Shane-S: did you set the password to the same as was specified in the koha-conf.xml file? |
| 19:36 | Shane-S | that I did not, can I change it in the xml or just set it MYSQL to what is in the XML? |
| 19:37 | jcamins | I'd do the latter. |
| 19:37 | You can change it, but it's a good idea to have a random password. | |
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| 19:40 | Shane-S | gotcha thanks |
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| 20:31 | Shane-S | so I am trying to login with kohauser from .xml file with a long hard to use random password with no luck, I got the MYSQL one working fine, now I am at the web installer |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | the username is the same as the mysql |
| 20:32 | so is the password | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Shane-S: the other user is for Zebra. |
| 20:32 | Shane-S | oh |
| 20:32 | jcamins | You use the MySQL password to go through the web installer, then create yourself a new user which you use from then on. |
| 20:32 | wizzyrea | (after you create a library) |
| 20:32 | (and some patron types) | |
| 20:32 | patron categories, I mean | |
| 20:33 | (or just install the sample data | |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | ) |
| 20:33 | Shane-S | hmm says it is missing a perl dependency "Template::Plugin::HtmlToText" any quick fox for that? |
| 20:33 | err Module | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl :D |
| 20:34 | cait | sudo apt-get install libtemplate-plugin-htmltotext-perl |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | <3 cait |
| 20:34 | cait | meh, jcamins typed faster or cheated :) |
| 20:34 | jcamins | cait: I type very quickly. |
| 20:34 | cait | I do too - but not against you :) |
| 20:34 | hi wizzyrea :) | |
| 20:34 | what did I do? | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | it's true he's wicked fast |
| 20:35 | libsysguy | Shane-S there is a clever scheme for libraries in debian |
| 20:35 | lib(package-name)-perl | |
| 20:35 | jcamins | libsysguy: he's using the packages. |
| 20:35 | Oh, naming scheme. | |
| 20:35 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 20:35 | Shane-S | ty thank worked now onto the install |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | thought that using packages generally was a clever scheme. ;) |
| 20:35 | * libsysguy | made the mistake of using cpan his first time |
| 20:35 | libsysguy | never again |
| 20:36 | yeah using packages will generally do it | |
| 20:36 | * Shane-S | also used cpan the first time and cried and beat his head on the table...and screamed out "Why would anyone make this so complex?" |
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| 20:38 | Shane-S | okay I don't remember this part...Unimarc or Marc21 (I will be migrating data from Follett Circ/Cat) |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | marc21 |
| 20:38 | Shane-S | ty |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | you're not in france right? |
| 20:39 | libsysguy | you can always change it later right? |
| 20:39 | jcamins | Somewhere near where my parents live, based on the domain name. |
| 20:39 | libsysguy: nope. | |
| 20:40 | Well, you could change the syspref, but you'd have to reinstall the instance. | |
| 20:40 | (to change the Zebra indexing) | |
| 20:40 | libsysguy | oh ouch |
| 20:40 | better get it right Shane-S | |
| 20:40 | jcamins | Shane-S: it's definitely MARC21. That's not something you need to be concerned about being wrong about in NJ. ;) |
| 20:41 | Shane-S | okay...lots of optional stuff I can do |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Yup. Those are low stakes. Choose what you'd like. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | (sample libraries and patron categories are nice) |
| 20:42 | sample holidays are nice | |
| 20:42 | Shane-S | sample holidays does that save time? |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | only if you're into christmas :p |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Z39.50 servers is always a good idea. |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | sample frameworks |
| 20:42 | are nice | |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | frameworks are a yes |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Oh, I never install sample frameworks. |
| 20:42 | Shane-S | Sample Patron Card Data, does that include adding the reports or are they in there already? |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Too many missing tags. |
| 20:43 | * libsysguy | is not as picky as jcamins |
| 20:43 | libsysguy | :p |
| 20:43 | * wizzyrea | either |
| 20:43 | wizzyrea | adding the reports? |
| 20:43 | * wizzyrea | is not sure what you mean |
| 20:44 | Shane-S | I remember building reports with the admin interface, and I never could find a "patron card" to print our this barcode, was curious if that adds it (or maybe I just missed it before) |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Shane-S: barcodes aren't printed from the reports module. |
| 20:44 | They're printed from the barcode printing tool. | |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | no, they're printed from the patron card creator |
| 20:45 | Shane-S | do I need sample patron for that, or is it in their already |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | barcodes for books are printed from the label creator |
| 20:45 | nope, you don't need sample patrons | |
| 20:45 | those are actual "borrower accounts" | |
| 20:45 | Shane-S | Sample Label and Patron Card Data (sample_creator_data) is what i am stuck on |
| 20:45 | wizzyrea | yes, you want those |
| 20:46 | gives you some templates to work from if you are going to be printing labels or patron cards from koha | |
| 20:47 | rangi | bug 5644 easy signoff to help make jenkins happy again |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5644 critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date |
| 20:47 | jcamins | I would, except I'm at a client's. |
| 20:47 | rangi | also bug 8407 and bug 8385 |
| 20:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8407 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , xt/tt_valid.t is too strict |
| 20:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8385 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , searchengine/solr/indexes.tt fails 'prove ./xt/tt_valid.t' test | |
| 20:47 | rangi | fix another jenkins complain |
| 20:49 | jcamins | ^^ those need to be signed off by someone who uses a non-English interface. |
| 20:49 | rangi | yup, i put a sign off on |
| 20:49 | but not marked it needs signoff | |
| 20:50 | i tested with english-NZ | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | Maybe we could get dpavlin to test it. |
| 20:51 | Shane-S | okay WOW 3.8's staff screen 10x better then 3.6 at least the first page much easier |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:51 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:51 | Glad you like it. :) | |
| 20:52 | rangi | after those are pushed, just the perlcritic error to fix |
| 20:52 | cait | rangi++ |
| 20:52 | thx for saving jenkins once again | |
| 20:53 | rangi | well it wont be saved until the fixes are pushed :) |
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| 20:56 | Shane-S | anyone know what item types Follet likes to use for books? I will have to bring home the Koha test laptop to check otherwise |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | they are arbitrary, I think |
| 20:57 | that is to say, different at every library | |
| 20:57 | Shane-S | what is suggested then for Item Type for normal fiction books? |
| 20:57 | * wizzyrea | would use "book" |
| 20:57 | rangi | id use train |
| 20:57 | cait | Shane-S: your itemtypes dictate your circ rules |
| 20:57 | * wizzyrea | gives rangi "the look" |
| 20:58 | rangi | (the point being it doesnt actually matter) |
| 20:58 | cait | think about what you need for circ rules |
| 20:58 | rangi | its just arbitrary characters |
| 20:58 | you can call it whatever you want | |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | but your circ rules are based on them |
| 20:58 | like cait said | |
| 20:58 | rangi | so pick something that makes sense to you |
| 20:58 | cait | you could have "4-weeks" |
| 20:58 | or "short loan" "normal loan" | |
| 20:59 | or if you really circ like that "book" "audio-visual" | |
| 20:59 | Shane-S | when I asked my media specialist about rules she looked at me like I had two heads...her response was, kids just check books out and bring them back in a week |
| 20:59 | we have no fines | |
| 20:59 | cait | the trick is that it doesn't have to be a media type |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | right, it doesn't have to be |
| 20:59 | cait | you could have just one type for all then, if you wanted |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | if you didn't want to, say, circulate DVD's for less time than books |
| 21:00 | SJeffery | Though there are advantages of separating out the media types for searching purposes... |
| 21:00 | Shane-S | I am think Book, DVD/CD, VHS, Audio CD, Audio Casset |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | yep, those make sense |
| 21:00 | cait | you can also search by location and collection |
| 21:01 | Shane-S | and this doesn;t affect like fiction, non-fict, ref, etc right? |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | no, those are usually collection codes |
| 21:01 | Shane-S | okay easy enough then |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | or locations. It's all very flexible |
| 21:01 | do it in a way that makes sense to your librarians. | |
| 21:01 | Shane-S | we only have like 5 types of media |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | do you know the policies of your library? |
| 21:02 | I'd start there :P | |
| 21:02 | Shane-S | <-- has 1 librarian who he asked to look at Koha and she never logged in beyond me doing it with her twice. |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | does your library have a website? |
| 21:02 | drojf | librarians. have crazy stuff like MARC with a field for everything and then let people choose item types like crazy |
| 21:03 | * wizzyrea | wants to know what the circ policies look like :P |
| 21:03 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: no, it will with Koha, but right now everything hosted in the building is down |
| 21:03 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 21:03 | bummer | |
| 21:04 | Shane-S | I walked in Monday to a general contractor going , your the IT guy right? |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | ohh… boy... |
| 21:04 | Shane-S | and I looked at him going yeah, is there a computer or wire in your way? |
| 21:04 | jcamins | At least he didn't start off with "what was in that little room with all the air conditioning?" ;) |
| 21:04 | Shane-S | He goes, well not quite, this room here with these 7 foots racks...yeah we are supposed to rip the asbestos tile out |
| 21:05 | libsysguy | yayy for mesothelioma |
| 21:06 | Shane-S | so I had to rip out 3 servers, 4 switches, 2 UPSs, and our routers/modems. |
| 21:08 | wizzyrea | http://www.mememaker.net/meme/[…]-about-to-go-down |
| 21:08 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 21:08 | Shane-S | Needless to say I was not happy...and no one even looked at the room, the blueprints still had "closet", so they assumed it was a storage closet not a "server" closet |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | actually this one: http://www.mememaker.net/meme/[…]about-to-go-down8 |
| 21:10 | jcamins | Is that different? |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | well you can actually see the word "down |
| 21:10 | Shane-S | Best part is when the Business Admin who approved the ripping out of it, called me asked me to print out a purchase order. I just laughed at her. |
| 21:10 | I tolder her, I have no network connectivity, no print servers, and no internet access to go download drivers to I can use USB | |
| 21:11 | cait | did she made the mistake to ask why? |
| 21:12 | Shane-S | No I think my tone said it all |
| 21:13 | because I just got in my Dell PE 710 server with 64Gb ram to Virtualize...and I couldn't do anything but stare at it | |
| 21:13 | Then my new UPS came in, and I stared at them...then my new firewall...stated at that too | |
| 21:14 | waiting for my PoE switch so I can just look at that too | |
| 21:14 | drojf | uh-oh. getting between the it guy and his new toys |
| 21:14 | jcamins | Shane-S: sounds like you've had a busy two weeks (is that right?) staring at cool things you can't use. |
| 21:15 | Shane-S | yep, best part was we paid to have an exhaust fan put in...because I want my servers running under 90degrees F, and I only have a vent in the door to pull air in. So the entire room was already ripped out |
| 21:16 | drojf | sounds like excellent planning. what kind of place do you work at? |
| 21:16 | Shane-S | Elementary School so it isn't mission critical, just wasted 2 weeks of IT "pay" |
| 21:17 | drojf | ah, public money. excellent ;) |
| 21:17 | Shane-S | I was literally an over pair custodian last week, I walked around helping the guys move furniture out of the classrooms |
| 21:17 | jcamins | drojf: well, not so much in NJ... |
| 21:18 | drojf | how are schools paid for in NJ? |
| 21:18 | Shane-S | jcamins: on now we are public, taxes and state funding pay for us. |
| 21:18 | no* | |
| 21:19 | jcamins | Shane-S: that's a joke... many members of my family teach in the NJ school system. |
| 21:19 | Shane-S | there are some private and charter school which get state aid, but are privately funded, I am in the public sector |
| 21:19 | jcamins | I understand the governor has been cutting school budgets rather dramatically. |
| 21:20 | Shane-S | yeah and from the IT side, the data they are now collecting because of NCLB and the Federal aid 30 states too for education, we can see a trend to merit based pay...which "I" an not oppsed to |
| 21:21 | I am non-union, yearly contracted, so I live by the fact I need to do my job, and well, or I can be fired life | |
| 21:21 | jcamins | It is non-unionized? |
| 21:21 | (in public schools) | |
| 21:21 | Shane-S | Teacher and Admins are Union |
| 21:21 | jcamins | I meant "IT" not "It." |
| 21:22 | However, that seems... not quite right. | |
| 21:22 | Shane-S | support staff is not union represented unless their local school union offers to blanket them |
| 21:24 | Support staff are : secretaries, custodians, maintenance, lunch workers, aides, and in most of school in this area of NJ IT staff. | |
| 21:24 | Some of the IT personnel were teacher or school administrators, and the districts made the postion and administrative position | |
| 21:25 | well at any rate thank you all | |
| 21:25 | it is working, now I get to set it up and then try and export it to a VM that ESXi will like | |
| 21:32 | * jcamins | looks at the time, decides to call it a day. |
| 21:32 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
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| 22:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #95 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 23:01 | papa joined #koha | |
| 23:02 | * jcamins_away | instructs his release script to warn him if the release version and Koha version do not match. |
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| 23:21 | drojf | did something change about search in koha or did i break something? i had a link opac-search.pl?idx=Control-number&q=12345&op=or&idx=Record-control-number&q=12345 and that returned all records with a certain control number either in 001 or 777$w. now i get 0 results |
| 23:22 | jcamins | 777$w? |
| 23:22 | Huh. | |
| 23:22 | Indeed. | |
| 23:23 | Should still work. | |
| 23:24 | drojf | weird. zebra related files look ok. reindexed, no change |
| 23:26 | jcamins | Very odd. |
| 23:26 | Is Zebra running? | |
| 23:27 | drojf | yes. i get results for everything else, but the indexes für control-number and record-control-number seem to be gone |
| 23:27 | jcamins | That's very peculiar. |
| 23:28 | drojf | indeed |
| 23:29 | hm no there is more now. | |
| 23:29 | or, less | |
| 23:29 | jcamins | There is more what? |
| 23:29 | Less what? | |
| 23:29 | wahanui | it has been said that Less is more |
| 23:29 | drojf | other indexes not working |
| 23:29 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 23:29 | drojf | something is really broken i guess |
| 23:30 | jcamins | Yes, I think so. |
| 23:30 | drojf | ok, nothing i deal with at 1:30am then :/ good night |
| 23:31 | jcamins | Good night. |
| 23:37 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #95: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/95/ |
| 23:37 | dpavlin: Bug 8315 - remove use C4::* version | |
| 23:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8315 major, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Stable , fix 'C4::Output 3.02' errors in Koha |
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