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00:45 | dcook | Hola #koha |
00:45 | Anyone else noticing that the top links on the intranet are white in IE? | |
00:46 | #header a.toplinks does specify #ffffff but this seems to be ignored by Chrome and FF | |
00:55 | jcamins | dcook: I imagine very few people have tried it. |
00:55 | dcook | I think I might have it |
00:55 | There is a hash before the colour property | |
00:56 | But hash isn't a comment symbol in CSS, me thinks | |
00:56 | But Chrome and FF must take it into account anyway, while IE does not.. | |
00:57 | Although.. | |
00:58 | It seems remedied in Master. I seem to remember someone doing some CSS edits recently | |
00:58 | jcamins | dcook: I suspect it's probably a matter of IE not respecting the overrides. |
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01:00 | dcook | Must be |
01:03 | It looks like someone introduced some javascript at some point.. | |
01:03 | jcamins | Is there some programmatic way to find out which languages have been more than 90% translated? |
01:29 | /me wishes rangi were around to provide the code for his sign off statistics thing. | |
02:19 | Never mind. I figured it out. Sort of. | |
02:52 | jcamins_away | Woohoo! The release notes script now automatically generates the list of translations! |
03:22 | rangi | gitdm |
03:23 | It's written by Linux kernel devs for data mining the kernel repo | |
03:23 | But with config works fine for koha | |
03:23 | That's for releases | |
03:24 | The ones I do monthly are from bugzilla | |
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03:43 | cait | morning #koha |
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03:53 | cait | morning Oak :) |
03:54 | Oak | morning cait :) |
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04:04 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
04:53 | cait | the random bug on the dashboard is addictive |
05:13 | Oak | geek! |
05:13 | cait | yep :) |
05:14 | Oak. have you seen dashboard.koha-community.org? :) | |
05:14 | Oak | no |
05:14 | * Oak | covers his face |
05:14 | Oak | doing it now |
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05:16 | cait | it's new :) |
05:16 | Oak | very very nice :) |
05:16 | cait | yep :) |
05:16 | rangi did it | |
05:16 | Oak | geek! |
05:16 | rangi++ | |
05:17 | may God keep him and his loved ones safe. | |
05:20 | cait: listen to this song when free: www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0EoMozYWSs | |
05:21 | you won't understand it of course... but still | |
05:21 | @wunder islamabad | |
05:21 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 25.0°C (10:00 AM PKT on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 22.0°C. Pressure: 28.00 in 948 hPa (Steady). |
05:59 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
05:59 | @wunder New Delhi | |
05:59 | huginn | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in New Delhi, India is 29.0°C (10:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 27.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
05:59 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder Dehradun |
05:59 | huginn | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Dehradun, India is 25.0°C (5:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 95%. Dew Point: 24.0°C. Pressure: 29.56 in 1001 hPa. |
05:59 | Amit_Gupta | @wunder Bangalore |
05:59 | huginn | Amit_Gupta: The current temperature in Bangalore, India is 22.0°C (8:30 AM IST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. |
06:01 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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06:10 | alex_a | bonjour |
06:11 | cait | hi alex_a :) |
06:11 | alex_a | hi cait ! |
06:17 | rangi | !jenkins build koha_3.8.x now |
06:17 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job koha_3.8.x build scheduled now |
06:17 | Starting build #92 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #90 9 hr 43 min ago) | |
06:27 | alex_a | @wunder Marseille |
06:27 | huginn | alex_a: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 23.0°C (8:00 AM CEST on July 11, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
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06:38 | reiveune | hello |
06:38 | wahanui | que tal, reiveune |
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07:06 | matts | hi ! |
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07:11 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
07:18 | Amit_Gupta | hello gaetan |
07:20 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
07:20 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #92: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/92/ | |
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07:42 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @27point7: "formation périos. Dommage qu'on ne puisse pas récupérer la cote de la notice biblio dans la fiche d'abonnement #kohails" |
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07:51 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @IrmaLibraries: "CALYX staff catching up with colleagues & clients at #anztla2012 & sharing http://t.co/VYbVoBoa news #kohails http://t.co/DzUV3ClS" |
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08:33 | tux | hi |
08:33 | wahanui | bonjour, tux |
08:33 | Guest2802 | which is the best barcode printer koha supports ? |
08:36 | i have just checked Zebra S4M , but when printing with Biblio/Barcode it's not reading | |
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08:45 | tux_ | hi |
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08:47 | tux_ | i have an issue with barcode printing, printer is Zebra S4M , i have generated Biblio/Barcode, but it is not getting read by barcode scanner |
08:47 | if printing with only Barcode, then it is reading | |
08:48 | any idea about this iisue | |
08:49 | or a printer that supports well in koha | |
08:52 | Amit_Gupta | cait around |
08:57 | slef | tux_: try another barcode scanner, or another barcode generation format? Sounds strange though... maybe something about having the biblio on there is making your printer scale the barcode beyond the scanner's tolerance. |
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09:42 | eythian | hi |
09:43 | slef | hi eythian |
09:43 | eythian | howdy, slef |
09:47 | slef | latest patch on bug 8413 should use URI::Escape::uri_escape_utf8 instead of regexing, shouldn't it? |
09:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8413 normal, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Needs Signoff , Space in barcode breaks GET request in benchmark_staff.pl |
09:48 | rangi | added a new features pushed, and bugs activity to the dashboard |
09:48 | yes without looking, yes | |
09:48 | :) | |
09:49 | eythian | slef: seems reasonable to me that it should, yeah. |
09:49 | * slef | comments |
09:49 | wahanui | comments are turned on |
09:49 | slef | wahanui: good! |
09:49 | wahanui | slef: sorry... |
09:49 | slef | wahanui: sorry? |
09:49 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, slef |
09:49 | slef | wahanui: figures |
09:49 | wahanui | I like *your* figure |
09:49 | slef | wahanui: pervert |
09:49 | wahanui | slef: huh? |
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09:54 | drojf1 | good morning #koha |
09:54 | slef | hi drojf1. Who are you? :) |
09:54 | drojf1 | when i rebase and git applies my patch at the end and does not complain, do i trust it or should i do something for my added syspref or something? |
09:54 | slef | wahanui: drojf1? |
09:54 | wahanui | slef: i don't know |
09:54 | drojf1 | slef: i wish i knew :) |
09:55 | oh, even wahanui does not know me | |
09:55 | slef | drojf1: you can just trust it or check git log or check git gr if you have it configured, or git diff against the mainline branch you started from |
09:56 | wahanui: drojf? | |
09:56 | wahanui | drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! |
09:56 | slef | yeah still not sure if drojf is 5p4m or not :) |
09:56 | drojf1 | yes i am |
09:56 | slef | Changes submitted for bug 8413 anyway. Use URI::Escape::uri_escape_utf8 |
09:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8413 normal, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, In Discussion , Space in barcode breaks GET request in benchmark_staff.pl |
09:57 | drojf1 | hm yeah i would prefer huginn used my name and not that part of my mail address |
09:57 | kf | slef: and you both know that you have met each other, right? |
09:57 | * kf | is only making sure |
09:58 | slef | kf: yeah |
09:59 | rangi | slef: the black dog was my favourite of the beers |
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10:04 | drojf1 | slef: thanks for the comment, will do |
10:04 | kf: yes :) | |
10:08 | slef | rangi: I was in Wisbech on Saturday for the rose fair. Sunburn on the ride out. Soaked to the skin on the ride back. |
10:14 | rangi | heh |
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10:18 | slef | damn was just looking for a fun sign I saw on the way. No photos online as far as I can tell. It's on a crossroads and points "Route 1 - Wisbech 10" south, "Route 1 - King's Lynn 5" north and "Route 30 - Lowestoft 98" east :) |
10:26 | tux_ | slef, i have tried another scanner, still not working , but without Biblio its working |
10:26 | but we need Biblio/Barcode | |
10:27 | do you know any good barcode printer which works better with koha ? | |
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10:29 | jcamins | o/ |
10:30 | fredericd++ | |
10:31 | slef | http://kingslynn.cyclestreets.net/location/17092/ fun road sign |
10:31 | tux_: not off the top of my head. I laser print onto labels, but I don't label much myself. | |
10:35 | rangi | jcamins: you're awake early |
10:36 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #781 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #773 6 days 19 hr ago) |
10:36 | jcamins | rangi: yeah, Myshkin had too much to say for me to stay asleep. |
10:39 | rangi: is there a good reason for us to keep the PO files for languages that haven't been translated in years? | |
10:40 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]11fc2da60eef23916> / Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]801373be83fb9d0fc> / Bug 8235 - allow a whitelist of modules |
10:40 | rangi | not really no, now would be a good time to move them all out into their own repo |
10:41 | jcamins | All these old obsolete PO files are getting in my way. |
10:41 | rangi | so the translation manager can push directly to their, and we just pull them in as part of the release |
10:42 | there too | |
10:42 | tux_ | no issues slef , one of my friend suggested Epson TM T88IV, i will check this |
10:48 | slef | Myshkin? |
10:48 | wahanui | Myshkin is more than articulate enough without me performing his interior monologue. |
10:49 | slef | cat |
10:50 | jcamins | Yup. |
10:52 | eythian | "interior monologue"? |
10:52 | "inner" perhaps? :) | |
10:53 | jcamins | eythian: I'm pretty sure the phrase is "interior monologue." |
10:53 | I'll check. | |
10:53 | eythian: http://grammar.about.com/od/il[…]ior-Monologue.htm | |
10:53 | eythian | http://www.googlefight.com/ind[…]nner+monologue%22 |
10:54 | the internet agrees with me :) | |
10:55 | jcamins | Heh. |
10:56 | rangi: do you speak Tamil? | |
10:56 | rangi | nope |
10:57 | * jcamins | goes out on a limb and guess that Koha is probably not 99% translated into Tamil. |
10:57 | * rangi | heads off to bed |
10:58 | rangi | nope not even on the translate site |
10:58 | jcamins | It is in the PO files, supposedly. |
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11:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #781: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/781/ |
11:39 | * kyle: Bug 7848 - Issues data missing from circulation notices | |
11:39 | * robin: Bug 8235 - allow a whitelist of modules that aren't in Debian | |
11:39 | * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost - Followup" | |
11:39 | * paul.poulain: Revert "Bug 4460 - Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost" | |
11:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7848 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Issues data missing from circulation notices |
11:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8235 minor, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Packaging scripts get upset with non-Debian perl modules | |
11:39 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4460 blocker, P3, ---, kyle, ASSIGNED , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost | |
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11:50 | eythian | jcamins: so, I think I've found a case where the upgrade schema and the structure schema don't match up properly. Hope to work out what it actually is soon, but I'm getting: "ERROR 1136 (21S01): Column count doesn't match value count at row 1" for something. |
11:50 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
11:50 | eythian | unfortunately, mysql error messages suck, so it's going to take some searching to figure it out. |
11:50 | jcamins | Wouldn't it be nice if we had a unit test that caught that. |
11:51 | eythian | it would |
11:51 | also: "ERROR 1048 (23000): Column 'cardnumber' cannot be null" | |
11:52 | which suggests that borrowers schema is also not matching perfectly. | |
11:54 | jcamins | Yup. |
11:56 | eythian | I've just thought of a plan to make this easier to figure out. Implementing said plan now |
11:56 | jcamins | Bonus karma if you turn the plan into a unit test. :) |
11:58 | eythian | no, it's something so I know what insert statement caused the failure :) |
11:58 | (basically inserting an echo before the insert) | |
12:04 | Amit_Gupta | Bug 7910 |
12:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7910 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, Signed Off , Batch renewal of serials and order creation |
12:05 | Amit_Gupta | Bug 8415 |
12:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8415 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, amit.gupta, NEW , Link Serial with Acquisition |
12:05 | Amit_Gupta | Bug 5511 |
12:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5511 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, amit.gupta, Failed QA , Check for Change in Remote IP address for Session Security. Disable when remote ip address changes frequently. |
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12:14 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:19 | jcamins | Good morning. |
12:19 | Have a nice trip? | |
12:23 | Amit_Gupta | heya oleonard |
12:23 | wahanui | hmmm... oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
12:23 | Amit_Gupta | heya wahanui |
12:23 | wahanui | i am a bot |
12:23 | Amit_Gupta | heya wahanui |
12:23 | wahanui | well, i am a bot |
12:24 | Amit_Gupta | heya wahanui |
12:24 | wahanui | i guess i am a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow. |
12:24 | jcamins | Hehe. |
12:24 | Enjoying yourself? | |
12:29 | eythian | arg, so mysqldump doesn't include the column names when it generates insert statements, so if things have been moved around, this'll die. |
12:29 | ah, --complete-insert | |
12:29 | jcamins | You can change that. |
12:29 | Yup. | |
12:29 | * eythian | starts this process over yet again... |
12:30 | * kf | cheers eythian on |
12:30 | kf | I would love to see a unit test for that too btw |
12:31 | eythian | you'd need to write something that can understand SQL, so that ordering differences don't upset it. |
12:37 | dpavlin | does Koha::Calendar works for people? We have wrong DateTime->truncate( to => 'days') all over the place, we are ignoring holidays which aren't special (why?) and useDaysMode calendar seems to pick dates in future allmost randomly. |
12:37 | Oh, and we have a but in day_month_closed_days which swaps days and months so it ignores all repeating entries... | |
12:39 | jcamins | dpavlin: I don't think it works, no. |
12:39 | However, I've never tested it. | |
12:39 | I've just heard from lots of people that it doesn't. | |
12:40 | dpavlin | End of term is comming near, and I got report that renewals aren't working, and guess what, they really don't :-) |
12:41 | oleonard | Sorry jcamins, was afk. Yes, I had a great trip |
12:41 | jcamins | dpavlin: uhhh... better than a false report? :/ |
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12:57 | kf | dpavlin: there are lots of bug reports in bugzilla |
12:57 | dpavlin: but there seems no consensus if the attached patches really work or not... | |
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13:04 | kf | ... so they are waiting for sign off (forgot to finish my sentence, bit busy here today :) ) |
13:05 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @TiffaniSlaton: "#kohails Now this is actually f'n ridiculous! http://t.co/AYF1Mn1U" |
13:06 | oleonard | ^^ hashtag spam? |
13:06 | drojf1 | yes |
13:06 | great. at least #kohails is important enough ;) | |
13:08 | * jcamins | heads into the city. |
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13:15 | dpavlin | kf: I'm going through them right now. I really like first one in Bug 8251 which is not contraversial (and it did pass QA once, but never landed in master) |
13:15 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
13:16 | dpavlin | kf: I don't undertand enough about bebarring but does this patch fix your Bug 4906 by any chance? |
13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1 |
13:18 | kf | dpavlin: hm I don't think debarring is related to that |
13:18 | dpavlin: my problem is that you can't hve a weekly fine and a grace period of 2 days | |
13:19 | dpavlin: the formula is wrong (math) - I actually have the right algorithm written down here, but I still have to implement it with a system preference in Koha :( | |
13:25 | dpavlin: hm, not sure I did a good job explaining the problem | |
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14:24 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @LynnetteCecil: "#kohails This sort of assholes! -- Just about all I'd like is really a nice dude http://t.co/3O64XmFT" |
14:26 | oleonard | What the heck, spammers? |
14:27 | eythian | http://imgur.com/FnOEw <-- australia |
14:27 | kf | heh |
14:30 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @HeatherDelaney4: "#kohails Omfg! It's surprising that is back! http://t.co/L6Nai3iZ" |
14:37 | jcamins_away | Okay, maybe TweetBot wasn't such a good idea. |
14:38 | kf | hm maybe it's only temporary |
14:38 | oleonard | Good for spam-catching. My twitter client has an easy "report for spam" feature. |
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14:44 | slef | tweetbot? |
14:44 | tweetbot`? | |
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14:45 | jcamins_away | tweetbot`: help |
14:45 | tweetbot` | jcamins_away: Ask me for help about: auth, twitterwatch (say 'help <modulename>'). |
14:45 | jcamins_away | tweetbot`: help auth |
14:45 | tweetbot` | jcamins_away: Authenticator for admin-level commands. Usage: !adduser <username> <password>, !auth <username> <password>, !password <old password> <new password>, !deluser <username>, !users |
14:45 | jcamins_away | tweetbot`: help twitterwatch |
14:45 | tweetbot` | jcamins_away: No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This is a bug. |
14:45 | wahanui | i already had it that way, tweetbot`. |
14:45 | slef | wahanui: this? |
14:45 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, slef |
14:45 | jcamins_away | No help for module 'TwitterWatch' This? |
14:46 | No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This? | |
14:46 | wahanui | rumour has it No help for module 'TwitterWatch'. This is a bug |
14:46 | slef | wahanui: you are crazy. |
14:46 | wahanui | ...but wahanui is a bot|a repository of important and useful and accurate information or at least partially slow.... |
14:46 | slef | wahanui: next meeting? |
14:46 | wahanui | next meeting is, like, Wednesday 2012-05-02 02:00:00 +0000 |
14:46 | slef | wahanui: I doubt that. |
14:46 | wahanui | slef: huh? |
14:48 | oleonard | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing,_18_July_2012 |
14:48 | slef | wahanui: forget next meeting |
14:48 | wahanui | slef: I forgot next meeting |
14:48 | slef | wahanui: next meeting is 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 |
14:48 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
14:51 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.2, 3.6.6 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 18 July 2012 at 10:00 UTC+0 | |
15:06 | eythian | jcamins_away: so far I've found: a 'discount' column in aqorders that doesn't exist in the newer schema, and 'deletedborrowers.cardnumber' never becoming non-null. |
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15:07 | kf | ugh. |
15:07 | jcamins | eythian: ooh, sounds fun. |
15:07 | eythian | the latter probably happened in 3.03.00.006 |
15:07 | kf | did you check if discount is currently used? |
15:07 | eythian | kf: I couldn't see any reference in the code. |
15:07 | with a quick look, anyway | |
15:07 | doesn't mean it's not extracted and used somewhere quite different | |
15:07 | kf | it might have been deleted, should be possible to find out when maybe... |
15:07 | hm. | |
15:08 | hm it's not accessible from the client anywhere, maybe we could kill it | |
15:08 | eythian | yeah, I can't remember what version the system I'm testing against got installed as unfortunately, so don't know what version it was set up with. |
15:13 | <subfield code=\"t\">Error Handling with ONERROR</subfield> | |
15:13 | well that's a relief :) | |
15:13 | * eythian | is searching for 'ERROR' in a log |
15:14 | eythian | OK, those appear to be the only two schema differences that I saw (but I was only testing moving data from one database into one set up with the "proper" schema.) |
15:16 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @paul_poulain: "seems that #kohails is spammed. I'm trying to "notify as spam" as fast as possible..." |
15:17 | oleonard | And here I thought there was just a sudden surge of interest in Koha on the part of scantily-clad young ladies. |
15:20 | slef | oleonard: huh? which spam was that? ;-) |
15:20 | horseradish | /nick alert |
15:20 | oleonard | The twitter spam |
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15:54 | CharlottevL | Hello everybody. |
15:56 | I have (i think a small) problem :( I'm using koha for my private library, that I have at home. And today i tried to upgrade it to 4.10. Since that, nothing work :( According to some forum, i tried to check koha-httpd.conf, but I have to write something wrong, because now either LOCALHOST is not working :( Can anybody help? | |
15:57 | kf | CharlottevL: which versiondid you upgrade from? |
15:57 | version number starting with 4 indicates that you are using Liblime Koha - which is not the same as the Koha we talk about here | |
15:57 | jcamins | CharlottevL: unfortunately, the latest version of Koha is 3.8 not 4.10 |
15:57 | kf | yes |
15:58 | CharlottevL | I downloaded this... https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha/downloads |
15:58 | kf | what he said |
15:58 | CharlottevL: but you said you updated, you have been always using thisß | |
15:58 | ? | |
15:58 | Liblime is a US company, they are the only ones supporting this version | |
15:59 | jcamins | CharlottevL: I fear no one here knows how to use that. |
15:59 | CharlottevL | there s written koha4.10... |
15:59 | it was perfectly working for more than 1 year :( but today i have to change something in conf. file after upgrade... | |
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16:00 | jcamins | CharlottevL: that's "LibLime Koha 4.10." |
16:00 | CharlottevL | yes... |
16:00 | jcamins | LibLime is a company. |
16:00 | CharlottevL | sorry for my stupid questions, you can imagine, how a girl is good in this stuffs... : |
16:00 | jcamins | It's very, very confusing. |
16:00 | If you don't mind a brief history lesson, I'll clarify. :) | |
16:01 | CharlottevL | thaanks :) |
16:01 | jcamins | Koha is an open source system, developed over the last 13 years. |
16:01 | LibLime is a company that used to support Koha. | |
16:01 | (the open source system) | |
16:02 | In 2007 or 2008 or something like that, LibLime started to develop their own "fork" of Koha. | |
16:02 | With their own code, and not using new code from the open source Koha project. | |
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16:03 | jcamins | A few months (or years, I can't remember) ago, they released their "LibLime Koha," but it's now very different from Koha. |
16:04 | And no one else uses it because there is a welcoming community that has been working very hard on Koha all those years that LibLime was developing their own system. | |
16:04 | They also made up new version numbers. The current version of Koha is 3.8.2. LibLime Koha is based on 3.1, but is called 4.10. | |
16:04 | oleonard | CharlottevL: And the mixup you're experiencing is deliberate on their part, as they want people looking for Koha to find them instead |
16:04 | jcamins | Okay, that might not be very clear. |
16:04 | * jcamins | tried |
16:05 | kf | well, it is very confusing |
16:05 | CharlottevL | I see it's more complicated than I though... |
16:05 | kf | and it's not because we would not help you - it's only because we can't really |
16:06 | they are so different now, we would probably only confuse you | |
16:06 | CharlottevL | i have the whole time downloading from koha.org (the previous version too), that mean, I have liblime KOHA? |
16:06 | kf | yes you have |
16:06 | slef | CharlottevL: yep. That's Koha Fork, not Koha Four. |
16:07 | sorry | |
16:07 | kf | the koha open source community is using koha-community.org as domain |
16:07 | jcamins | If the previous version of Koha you had was 3.something, you probably downloaded it before LibLime split of LibLime Koha. |
16:07 | *split off | |
16:07 | Someone is vacuuming in the other room, and it keeps on killing my wireless. | |
16:07 | slef | jcamins: bad workman! |
16:07 | kf | hm over a year ago - it might have already been liblime koha then |
16:07 | CharlottevL | you're lucky :D my degu has destroyed internet cables yesterday :D |
16:08 | kf | CharlottevL: were are you located? |
16:08 | CharlottevL | czech republic |
16:08 | ok, 'im sure totaly stupid, i tried to restart apache and it's saying [Wed Jul 11 18:02:26 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:8080 has no VirtualHosts | |
16:08 | kf | oh nice :) |
16:08 | not the error of coruse | |
16:08 | course | |
16:09 | CharlottevL | why? have you ever been in Czech Republic? |
16:09 | kf | hm I don't think so - but europe |
16:09 | * slef | has |
16:09 | * oleonard | has visited the Czech Republic and loved it |
16:09 | kf | and I am not sure I know someone from czech republic yet |
16:09 | slef | very slow train ride from Cheb to Prague |
16:10 | CharlottevL | not only from cheb... actualy I know no fast train here... |
16:10 | * jcamins | visited Prague. |
16:10 | CharlottevL | and what about ceske budejovice? Budvar? |
16:10 | slef | CharlottevL: that is only a warning, can be ignored, but suggests that the NameVirtualHost and VirtualHost entries disagree and you might like to take a look. |
16:11 | CharlottevL | grep NameVirtualHost /etc/apache2/ports.conf give me NameVirtualHost *:80 NameVirtualHost *:8080 |
16:12 | slef | ooh that reminds me... I also visited Terezin camp and Cesky Krumlov |
16:12 | and I can't find accents on this keyboard | |
16:12 | where is dead_check on a standard layout? | |
16:12 | CharlottevL | nice :) cesky krumlov is only 15 km away |
16:13 | slef | Česky Krumlov |
16:13 | found it... probably that doesn't have one | |
16:13 | :) | |
16:13 | CharlottevL: now grep VirtualHost /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* | |
16:13 | CharlottevL | yes, Český Krumlov |
16:14 | slef | heh, an acute too... my czech is well stale |
16:14 | CharlottevL | nepovídej, že umíš česky :) |
16:14 | slef | mluvite anglicky? |
16:15 | CharlottevL | that's perfect! Where did you learn it? |
16:15 | grep VirtualHost /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:<VirtualHost *:80> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:</VirtualHost> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:#NameVirtualHost * /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:<VirtualHost 127.0.0.1:80> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:</VirtualHost> /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha:<VirtualHost 1 | |
16:15 | slef | CharlottevL: on a slow train to prague about 15 years ago... |
16:15 | CharlottevL | tried 2 month ago, still slow |
16:16 | slef | CharlottevL: riight, so if there's no VirtualHost *:8080 stanza, you could comment out the line in ports.conf and the errors would stop. |
16:16 | CharlottevL | ok, its stops... |
16:17 | (because I think, the problem is not in upgrade... but after upgrade i replace again all localhost with my IP and I think, I have to write something wrong somewhere...) | |
16:18 | jcamins | CharlottevL: if you were accessing the staff client via port 8080, you might need to change that so that it listens on port 8080 again (and uncomment the line in ports.conf). |
16:18 | slef | if the server will only host one Koha, you could change all 127.0.0.1:whatever to *:whatever and comment out and NameVirtualHost 127.0.0.1:whatever lines |
16:19 | but this is all apache stuff, not koha | |
16:19 | jcamins | However, this is a guess, since I'm not sure how much the httpd-conf will have changed. |
16:20 | CharlottevL | for me it's the same thing, something, what I don't understand... :( without step-by-step howto instruction, i wouldn be able to install KOHA. |
16:20 | the server is only for KOHA. | |
16:20 | slef | jcamins: well, it used to have NameVirtualHost lines in the httpd-conf, which is a bit iffy, so I expect LibLime Koha Fork still does it, as that's well iffy |
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16:21 | slef | CharlottevL: it's Koha, meaning something like "gift" in te reo Maori. It's not an abbreviation. |
16:21 | CharlottevL | an other interesting information :) |
16:22 | slef | and I'm probably butchering the Maori language like a good pakeha too, so don't trust me on the specifics :) |
16:22 | CharlottevL | you know sure more than me... You know czech language! |
16:22 | the maori language can't be more complicated | |
16:23 | an other stupid question... where should i change, where it listens? :( | |
16:23 | kf | slef also speaks German... I think he might like complicated languages :) |
16:23 | slef | I also speak esperanto... I prefer simple languages, but humanity seems to like complicated. |
16:23 | eythian | slef: it's hard to translate strictly, but that's close enough to right |
16:23 | jcamins | CharlottevL: do you remember what version of Koha you had before your upgrade, and do you have a backup from before the upgrade? |
16:24 | eythian | slef: also, Māori ;) |
16:24 | slef | CharlottevL: two places: ports.conf and the koha file in /etc/apache/sites-available/ |
16:25 | * slef | was taught English by a Māori, French by a Greek, German by Italian <-- true story |
16:25 | CharlottevL | is it possible, /etc/apache/sites-available/ is empty file? |
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16:25 | slef | to be fair, Anglo-Greek and Anglo-Italian IIRC |
16:25 | eythian | slef: funny story, the Māori name of the university I went to is "Te Whare Wānanga o Otāgo" (The house of learning in Otago), however if you instead write: "Te Whare Wananga o Otāgo", it's apparently more like "The house of war..." |
16:25 | slef | I think |
16:26 | CharlottevL | slef: wen jemand deutsch sprechen will - ich studiere jetzt in Linz, so kein problem :D aber Maori wirklich noch nicht... |
16:26 | slef | eythian: oops. That could go badly wrong. |
16:26 | jcamins | slef: accurate, depending on the department, though. |
16:27 | slef | CharlottevL: jemand will nicht Deutsch sprechen... |
16:27 | kf | CharlottevL: ich bin nächste Woche in Linz! |
16:27 | eythian | (slef: I haven't confirmed that however.) |
16:27 | kf | I am in Linz next week to talk about Koha |
16:28 | slef | CharlottevL: Man geht durch Deutschland, fragt etwas Deutschsprachige, und man repondiert Englishsprächige... |
16:28 | kf | that's funny :) |
16:28 | slef | and in case it wasn't clear yet, my written German is horrendous |
16:28 | CharlottevL | that's normal :D but it's sound good, if I will not have to be in lab (I study biochemistry :D), maybe I'll come, cause i see, i know nothing about Koha |
16:29 | slef | nearly as bad as my spanish pronounciation, if you haven't heard http://s.coop/q1af yet |
16:29 | kf: who are you talking to? I was in London talking about Koha to a Top Sekrit Kabal | |
16:29 | CharlottevL | that's your voice? |
16:29 | slef | yesterday |
16:29 | kf | it's as part of a bigger event for hm clerical(?) libraries - so I am afraid it's not open :( |
16:30 | slef | CharlottevL: it's a show I was interviewed on |
16:30 | kf | oh and btw, any hints about such libraries using Koha for my slides are appreciated :) |
16:30 | slef | kf: what sort of clerics? |
16:31 | kf: I don't want to have you telling the Catholics about how wonderful and farsighted the Protestants are ;-) | |
16:31 | kf | I thik there will be monks and nuns |
16:31 | oh... my virtualbox says it will only take another 8 hours to clone the machine? ugh. | |
16:34 | ah, how time runs, only 6 hours now | |
16:34 | CharlottevL | you're using Asgard technology from StarGate? |
16:35 | kf | heh |
16:35 | maybe... :) | |
16:35 | CharlottevL | btw. I know, you're experts to koha, not to apache, would it help, if I reinstall apache? (if koha is properly working and only some .conf files are false...) |
16:36 | slef | reinstalling rarely helps :) What's the problem? |
16:36 | kf | 5! |
16:36 | slef | kf: keep that time warp away from me! I've enough to do already without losing hours in minutes! |
16:36 | kf | hehe ok |
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16:37 | kf | actually for that I would like that sand... clock? from harry potter |
16:37 | CharlottevL | http://127.0.1.1:8080/ 404 not found on this server... |
16:37 | wizzyrea | oh, have you disabled the default site? |
16:37 | kf | slowing the time a little bit to have more time to do all my work... |
16:38 | slef | CharlottevL: put the output of apache2ctl -S (shows virtualhosts) into http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
16:38 | wizzyrea | slef++ that's a great tip |
16:39 | kf | 4 - that's good, maybe I won't miss dinner |
16:39 | pastebot | "CharlottevL" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "404 not found" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/25 |
16:40 | CharlottevL | your progress have exponential curve, in 20 minutes, it should be done :) |
16:41 | eythian | wizzyrea: disabling the default site is a bit of a bad thing. It can make stuff work, but if it fixes something, it means that there is still a problem existing, and you've just made the one that's there first as the default. |
16:41 | This can bite later, or cause even more confusing symptoms. | |
16:41 | (like, I had the opac for another instance showing up on the URL for something else for a while. That made me very confused until I worked it out) | |
16:42 | slef | eythian++ |
16:42 | eythian | I didn't think I was _that_ mean :( |
16:43 | slef | CharlottevL: This worries me "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName". Makes me think networking is misconfigured at a system level. |
16:43 | eythian | slef: naw, that's not a bad error |
16:43 | the default install on some systems does it. | |
16:43 | it can be fixed by putting something into the right place in /etc/hosts | |
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16:44 | jcamins | slef: that's normal. |
16:44 | slef: annoying, but normal. | |
16:44 | eythian | I think that there needs to be a wildcard *:8080 put somewhere |
16:45 | jcamins | eythian: when accessing a server via IP, there is no option but to disable the default site. |
16:45 | * eythian | doesn't tend to split out ports so isn't 100% sure. |
16:45 | eythian | jcamins: that's something else I don't do, good point. |
16:45 | slef | jcamins: no, the Norms say you configure the networking correctly ;-) |
16:46 | anyway, maybe not the problem | |
16:46 | jcamins | slef: yes, much better to configure networking correctly, but when you're accessing via IP, it doesn't matter. |
16:46 | CharlottevL | you're scariing me... I install it according step-by-step manual and it was sooooo good working... conf file for ports i have never seen. |
16:47 | slef | CharlottevL: do you have Koha at http://127.0.0.1/ and http://127.0.0.1:8080/ ? What do you want at http://127.0.1.1/ ? |
16:47 | eythian | slef: ignore 127.0.1.1 |
16:47 | It's a thing apache does | |
16:48 | jcamins | CharlottevL: don't worry about the error slef commented on. Most people just access Koha a bit differently and have to do more configuration. |
16:48 | slef | jcamins: pretty sure you can ServerName and NameVirtualHost by IP address too if you want. |
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16:48 | CharlottevL | now i just wand localhost working :( than i make back-up(me stupid) and tried to make accessible over IP adress. |
16:50 | jcamins | slef: yes, I suppose one could, but I'm having trouble thinking why you would want to. |
16:50 | slef | CharlottevL: you said http://127.0.1.1:8080/ 404 not found on this server... but what is at http://127.0.0.1:8080/ ? localhost is 127.0.0.1 and eythian is telling me to ignore 127.0.1.1 :) |
16:51 | jcamins: avoid the site vanishing when someone adds a second website to the server ;) | |
16:51 | eythian | slef: 127.0.0.0/8 == 127.0.0.1 (IIRC) |
16:51 | though, it could be apache is treating them differently | |
16:51 | CharlottevL | i though 127.0.0.1 = localhost, 127.0.1.1 is username |
16:51 | eythian | (I'd be surprised though) |
16:52 | CharlottevL | or something... |
16:52 | jcamins | slef: fair enough. |
16:52 | eythian | CharlottevL: 127.0.1.1 == hostname == 127.0.0.1 == localhost |
16:52 | slef | eythian: yes, the interface lo listens on 127.0.0.0/8 but apache handles each IP address as its own thing. |
16:52 | CharlottevL | hostname, not username... true |
16:52 | eythian | slef: well, that's what I'm wondering. |
16:53 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @JemimaPorterfie: "#kohails Whoa : congrats : this kind of entirely rocks!! http://t.co/RBgJxuGD" |
16:53 | slef | eythian: where are my networking colleagues when I need them to explain this more coherently than I can? |
16:53 | #kohails is 90% spam or just a target today? | |
16:53 | eythian: wonder no more, apache handles each IP address as different. | |
16:54 | eythian | OK, good to know |
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17:01 | CharlottevL | uaah! ignore me, I'm just stupid woman, there was only bad filename in /etc hosts.... ta-da-da... |
17:01 | but thank you very much ! | |
17:02 | jcamins | Yay! You fixed it! |
17:03 | drojf1 | do hashtag spammers smell that there is a tweetbot here? or is it always like this with #kohails? |
17:03 | jcamins | If you have some option to switch to Koha, that would probably be worth it, because we're very happy to help when we can. :) |
17:03 | oleonard | It's not always like this drojf1 |
17:03 | kf | perhaps the twitterbot should tweet [off] ? |
17:03 | CharlottevL | is there a big difference between liblime koha and your koha? |
17:03 | kf | we will end up with all those links in the logs... then google... and so on |
17:04 | drojf1 | oh *gets popcorn* |
17:04 | jcamins | kf: ooh, good idea! |
17:05 | kf | @later tell mtj - we got lots of twitter spam today - maybe the bot could tweet [off] ? |
17:05 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
17:05 | jcamins | CharlottevL: there's a pretty big difference, yes. We're on Koha 3.8 (working on 3.10), and LibLime Koha was based on 3.1. |
17:05 | kf | ok, now I go - my 6 hours of cloning are over :) |
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17:06 | slef | kf++ very very very good point! |
17:06 | CharlottevL | yes, that I understand, but for "normal users" - is there a big difference in administration (especially z39.50 protocol) |
17:06 | drojf1 | CharlottevL: i think we do not really know from the technical side. liblime forked at, i think, 3.0, which was some time ago. we don't use it, but i suppose they miss a lot of the newer stuff or do things differently. and even more important, the only support you can get for liblime is from liblime, which means you have to pay them |
17:07 | kf | it's a bit hard to tell, but cataloguing should not be too different I think |
17:07 | slef | CharlottevL: our admin interface looks much shinier and nicer now, too? ;) Thanks to the lovely lovely people. |
17:07 | ? | |
17:07 | wahanui | is probably here |
17:07 | slef | wahanui: bots? |
17:07 | wahanui | bots are listed at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
17:07 | slef | wahanui: thanks |
17:07 | wahanui | no worries slef |
17:07 | kf | slef: rangi can clean the logs I think |
17:08 | bye all :) | |
17:08 | jcamins | @later tell mtj Alternatively, maybe it would be better to have tweetbot use /notice? |
17:08 | huginn | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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17:08 | oleonard | /notice? |
17:08 | eythian | /notice causes some clients to send a notification, which is annoying |
17:08 | jcamins | oleonard: alternative way of sending messages, to avoid bot fights. |
17:09 | slef | @later tell rangi can you scrub today's twitter spam from the live log and tell logbot to ignore tweetbot` please? We think it might be attracting more spam :( |
17:09 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
17:09 | jcamins | Look here all of you, consider yourself on notice! |
17:09 | slef | @lart jcamins |
17:09 | huginn | slef: Error: There are no larts in my database for #koha. |
17:09 | * oleonard | would probably pay to see a bot fight |
17:09 | jcamins | Hm. |
17:09 | slef | huginn: @lart add oi, stop that! |
17:09 | huginn | slef: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
17:09 | eythian | they can get pretty funny |
17:09 | CharlottevL | the admin interace (grafic) is for me not as important, I just need add books via z39.50 and add images.. |
17:09 | * dpavlin | finished Bug 8418 - Koha::Calendar fixes without touching anything else... |
17:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8418 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Koha::Calendar is_holiday ignores all user data |
17:10 | jcamins | still picked up the notice. |
17:10 | oleonard | CharlottevL: Add images? Do you mean book cover images? |
17:10 | jcamins | CharlottevL: I don't think you can add images on LibLime Koha. Not sure, though. |
17:10 | CharlottevL | yes, it's possible :) |
17:10 | jcamins | Hm. |
17:10 | Well, never mind, then. | |
17:11 | oleonard | anyway, you can do that in real Koha too CharlottevL |
17:11 | CharlottevL | (because it's the only possibility, Im able to find books in my libraries (the older books from 1950 etc with nothing written on cover... the image is the only possiblity O:-) ) |
17:12 | drojf1 | do we know how many people develop liblime koha? |
17:13 | jcamins | drojf: between 1 and 4. |
17:13 | drojf | ok. that is a little less than we have :) |
17:13 | mbalmer | marginally ;) |
17:13 | jcamins | lol |
17:13 | oleonard | They have slightly fewer international contributors too |
17:14 | jcamins | I don't see any local cover image support at all. |
17:14 | slef | lart jcamins |
17:14 | CharlottevL | :D ok ok :D is there some way how to go to Koha and transfere all my books? :) |
17:14 | slef | @lart jcamins |
17:14 | * huginn | oi, jcamins, stop that! |
17:14 | slef | oh drat |
17:15 | jcamins | CharlottevL: if all you use is the catalog, you can export all the bibs from tools, then reimport them into Koha. |
17:16 | CharlottevL | ehm.... can you explain me, why I have Koha version: 3.08.00.000 in "about koha?" ? |
17:16 | jcamins | CharlottevL: if I had to guess, I'd say probably you got confused about where you downloaded it earlier. |
17:17 | Because that's a very good version to be using. :) | |
17:17 | slef | @lart jcamins |
17:17 | * huginn | thinks jcamins probably likes LibLime so much that they sit in a chair carved from a giant lime! [off] |
17:17 | CharlottevL | and its koha or limelib koha? :D |
17:17 | drojf | also explains image support :) |
17:17 | jcamins | Yes it does. |
17:17 | Koha. | |
17:18 | slef: the [off] has to become at the beginning. :P | |
17:18 | slef | CharlottevL: you weren't downloading from koha.org in the last year or two then |
17:18 | jcamins: can you do that in an action? | |
17:18 | oh well | |
17:18 | jcamins | CharlottevL: sorry, I gave you a huge history lesson and it turns out that you didn't need it. :) |
17:18 | slef | not that I care that much |
17:18 | CharlottevL | no, it was very interesting... |
17:18 | slef | bbl |
17:19 | jcamins | The good news is, we'll be better able to help now that we know, and if you have any future problems, you know where to find us. |
17:20 | slef | jcamins: repeat after me |
17:20 | first question? | |
17:20 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
17:20 | slef | second question? |
17:20 | wahanui | second question is "What is the exact error message?" |
17:20 | slef | third question? |
17:20 | wahanui | third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
17:20 | slef | fourth question? |
17:20 | wahanui | i heard fourth question was "Are we there yet?" |
17:20 | slef | fifth question? |
17:20 | wahanui | i guess fifth question is "Are we there yet?" |
17:20 | * slef | applauds |
17:20 | slef | sixth question? |
17:20 | mbalmer | answer? |
17:20 | wahanui | answer is probably always go back to sleep or 42 |
17:20 | mbalmer | perfect! |
17:20 | slef | really bbl |
17:21 | CharlottevL | nice! :) |
17:21 | jcamins | wahanui: Morning? |
17:21 | wahanui | i think Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
17:22 | CharlottevL | i think, i'll need help :) i think, as i'll try to make it accessible via IP.. it can't be without huge errors... |
17:22 | drojf | oh my. so i had some strange numbers again with benchmark_staff.pl. seemed like the non-plack staff client would eat all memory in the "all at once" test and then just skip stuff in the test. So i turned on swap and now that is running for hours already, with more than 300mb swapped |
17:24 | jcamins | CharlottevL: if you open up /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha, you should see two <VirtualHost> sections. Make sure the one for the intranet is listening on *:8080 and the one for the opac is listening on *:80 |
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17:35 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @SelenaCurrier: "#kohails Omg... Is that this the real deal? http://t.co/VUUhwAvg" |
17:37 | drojf | narf |
17:37 | wizzyrea | i think that poor person got eaten by a twitter impersonator |
17:48 | drojf | all transactions at once 12442890ms 0.014 operations/sec :D |
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17:49 | jcamins | That's a lot of seconds. |
17:49 | 12442890/1000 | |
17:49 | wahanui | 12442.89 |
17:49 | jcamins | (12442890/1000)/3600 |
17:49 | wahanui | 3.45635833333333 |
17:50 | jcamins | You waited almost 3.5 hours? |
17:50 | I would probably have become convinced that the system had died before then. | |
17:50 | drojf | was not at the computer until half an hour ago |
17:51 | i had top open and saw it was alive. a little | |
17:51 | so that explains how the numbers for that test were much better before, it just did not do the test :D | |
17:52 | jcamins | Heh. |
17:52 | Pity. | |
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17:59 | jcamins | Apparently Oracle acquired Endeca. |
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18:01 | * jcamins | will stick with open source software, thank you very much. |
18:04 | CharlottevL | hi again, can i ask? I have changed all localhosts to 5.16.100.9 (I'm using hamachi) and restart apache, on server it's working fine, but it's still don't accessible from an other computer on the same wifi... |
18:04 | any ideas? | |
18:04 | wahanui | any ideas are welcome :) |
18:06 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @SerinaHass: "#kohails Lol. How f'n hilarious...! http://t.co/SowW1ws0" |
18:06 | jcamins | If you have a firewall set up, you might need to tell it to allow port 80 and 8080 through. |
18:07 | * cait | waves |
18:08 | jcamins | CharlottevL: on the computer that it's running on you're able to access it by going to http://5.16.100.9/ ? |
18:09 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @ByWaterSolution: "Using the Calendar in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/zqyVfk2b #kohails" |
18:09 | oleonard | Check it out, a real one! |
18:11 | drojf | or just cleverly disguised as a koha video, have not watched it ;) |
18:11 | CharlottevL | yes, on this computer it's working, but on the second laptop not... |
18:12 | jcamins | And the server's IP address is 5.16.100.9? |
18:13 | CharlottevL | yes... the the server PC is on the same wifi as laptop, and I'm using hamachi to have "Normal" ip, when connected per wifi |
18:13 | (the server PC is running on ubuntu 10.10, laptop is on WinXP | |
18:13 | jcamins | Why are you using a VPN if you're on the same wifi? |
18:14 | (I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're doing) | |
18:14 | drojf | heh paul_p has the same speed increase for the "all at once" benchmark without plack |
18:14 | CharlottevL | because I'm connecting to this PC from an other places (school, lab...) |
18:15 | jcamins | Okay, but right now you're not using the VPN. |
18:15 | Got it. | |
18:15 | You have it set to listen on *:80 and *:8080? | |
18:18 | CharlottevL | this? NameVirtualHost 5.16.100.9:8080 NameVirtualHost *:8080 NameVirtualHost * in listen.conf ? |
18:19 | jcamins | No, in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha |
18:19 | However, you also need to remove that first NameVirtualHost. | |
18:19 | Just use * intead of 5.16.100.9. | |
18:19 | CharlottevL | ok, that's maybe a problem :) |
18:23 | pastebot | "CharlottevL" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "apache configuration" (182 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/26 |
18:24 | CharlottevL | so it's correct? |
18:25 | jcamins | What you should do is comment out those NameVirtualHost lines, and change <VirtualHost 5.16.100.9> to <VirtualHost *>, and <VirtualHost 5.16.100.9:8080> to <VirtualHost *:8080> |
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18:30 | jcamins | Then you restart Apache by running `sudo apache2ctl restart` |
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18:48 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @kohails: "#kohails Using the Calendar in Koha 3.8 http://t.co/zs14tsqY" |
18:51 | mbalmer | what is tweetbot? |
18:52 | jcamins | A bot that relays all tweets mentioning Koha to the channel. |
18:52 | mbalmer | come one, that is the most stupid thing I ever heard. |
18:52 | oleonard | Nice. |
18:52 | jcamins | mbalmer: it seems like a perfectly logical name to me. |
18:53 | mbalmer | the name is logical, the idea behing it is stupid. |
18:53 | jcamins | A bot that tweets. |
18:53 | mbalmer | spam spam and more spam |
18:54 | at least I can ignore tweetbot. | |
18:54 | cait | I think it's a very nice idea |
18:54 | and we didn't expect it to be spam, as we don't see that many spam on twitter itself | |
18:55 | jcamins | There ya go. If you're not interested, you don't have to follow it, and those of us who don't use Twitter still can see what's being said. |
18:55 | liw | I made a couple of tweets that used #kohails but I didn't see them on the channel |
18:55 | * mbalmer | is mostly negative about social media. but since I can ignore tweetbot, no harm is done. |
18:55 | cait | oh |
18:55 | and I didn't see yours on twitter *checks* | |
18:57 | mbalmer | my own tweet does not show up. good. |
18:58 | liw | it was a couple of days ago, perhaps the bot hadn't gotten up to speed yet |
18:58 | jcamins | The bot only showed up yesterday, I think. |
18:58 | cait | ah, it's quite new |
18:58 | yep | |
18:58 | rangi | i just post all of mbalmers tweets on reddit anyway |
18:58 | liw | is koha on reddit too? |
18:58 | libsysguy_class | reddit++ |
18:58 | liw yes | |
18:59 | http://www.reddit.com/r/koha | |
18:59 | * liw | clicks subscribe |
18:59 | libsysguy_class | yayy!! |
18:59 | oleonard | It's not very exciting. |
18:59 | liw | 17 readers :) |
19:00 | libsysguy_class | true…i guess we could set up a bot to post our tweets to it :p |
19:00 | jcamins | libsysguy_class: and a bot to tweet the posts to it! |
19:00 | And... | |
19:00 | mbalmer | or a bot to tweet what is said here... |
19:00 | liw | high volume is not necessary for quality |
19:00 | jcamins | Soon there will be an infinite number of identical posts. :D |
19:00 | libsysguy_class | omg we could post the logs to twitter |
19:00 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @mbalmer: "One of the best ILS: Koha. #kohails" |
19:00 | libsysguy_class | true open-ness |
19:01 | oleonard | Looks like it's time to protect your tweets mbalmer |
19:01 | mbalmer | I AES256 encrypt them ;) |
19:02 | nengard | this is an automated list of all of the posts on Koha related sites (that I know about) http://pipes.yahoo.com/nengard/kohablogs |
19:02 | it's what feeds to Twitter and to Facebook for Koha | |
19:02 | libsysguy_class | koha is such a social butterfly |
19:02 | nengard | here's the list of social networks: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Social_Networks |
19:02 | add others if they exist | |
19:03 | mbalmer | I will invent an asocial network. Where anyone can get an account for free. And not be able to communicate with anyone else. |
19:04 | oleonard | mbalmer: That's called sitting at home talking to yourself |
19:04 | libsysguy_class | but not answering yourself |
19:04 | thats forbidden | |
19:08 | mbalmer | [I like this] |
19:08 | [Twitter this] | |
19:08 | [Follow my tweets on youtube] | |
19:08 | * liw | tweeted and dented and was quite on #koha (being quiet on #koha is /me's primary activity) |
19:09 | libsysguy_class | liw the lurker? |
19:09 | liw | libsysguy_class, aye, it is I |
19:16 | tweetbot` | Twitter: @LindaDeloach2: "#kohails Help!!! http://t.co/bHTmrFUK" |
19:16 | Twitter: @DorcasStill: "#kohails Haha. Caught in the process! http://t.co/oArjo42R" | |
19:16 | rangi | ah yep, spammers have caught on |
19:17 | mtj can you turn tweetbot off until i stop it appearing in the log | |
19:17 | tweetbot` was kicked by rangi: tweetbot` | |
19:17 | rangi | that will do for now |
19:17 | jcamins | rangi: kick it? |
19:17 | Heh. | |
19:17 | Great minds. :) | |
19:18 | * rangi | goes to purge logs |
19:18 | jcamins | While you're at it, any way to make [off] work at the end of a line, too? |
19:18 | cait | hm that might have been one of very few kicks ever |
19:18 | rangi | hmm perhaps |
19:18 | jcamins | cait: there have been a few. |
19:19 | There was the person who was pasting the entire results of ls -lR into the channel. | |
19:19 | ls -lR / | |
19:22 | * drojf | made staff client benchmarks for the raspberry pi: http://abunchofthings.net/blog[…]spberry-pi-staff/ |
19:22 | rangi | sweet |
19:27 | jcamins | drojf: are you sure those numbers are correct? |
19:28 | drojf | jcamins: ? |
19:28 | jcamins | When running all transactions at once without Plack, it completes more than twice as many transactions per second as when just doing one transaction at a time. |
19:28 | I'm wondering if there was a typo when you copied it onto the blog. | |
19:28 | drojf | there is more about that later ;) |
19:28 | jcamins | Oh, never mind. |
19:29 | drojf | :D |
19:29 | jcamins | :) |
19:29 | rangi | ok i dont have the headspace to hack at ilbot at the moment |
19:30 | so i vote either someone else does, or we leave tweetbot out | |
19:30 | jcamins | Guess mbalmer gets a reprieve. |
19:30 | rangi | git://github.com/moritz/ilbot.git |
19:30 | oleonard | mbalmer: All your #kohails tweets are safe for now |
19:31 | rangi | if someone wants to make a patch ill apply it |
19:31 | jcamins | Hey, there's another option. |
19:31 | Preface everything tweetbot says with [off] so that it doesn't show up. | |
19:31 | I think cait may have already suggested that to mtj. | |
19:31 | But that'd be a lot easier, I think. | |
19:32 | rangi | oh yeah, if that happens problem solved |
19:35 | ok spam all purged | |
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20:04 | libsysguy | so I think im missing something with git bz |
20:04 | i sign off on a patch | |
20:04 | and i go to attach it | |
20:05 | is there a flag I need to mark the other one obsolete | |
20:05 | rangi | yes |
20:06 | git bz attach -e bugnumber HEAD | |
20:06 | then uncomment the obsoletes line | |
20:07 | libsysguy | ohh |
20:07 | i was missing the uncommenting bit | |
20:07 | rangi++ | |
20:08 | rangi | there might be a bunch of patches, so get the right one:) |
20:09 | * libsysguy | is an eagle eye |
20:11 | jcamins | Well, at least this time there was no request for a video. |
20:12 | cait | hm but the video one had a please |
20:12 | rangi | :) |
20:13 | jcamins | Ah, that's true. |
20:13 | rangi | puppy training |
20:13 | ignore the bad, reward the good | |
20:13 | jcamins | And keep your shoes locked in the closet? |
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20:13 | rangi | i suspect that one is entirely language differences though |
20:14 | cait | good morning kathryn :) |
20:14 | jcamins | Agreed. |
20:15 | I actually was serious when I said I thought this was better than the request for videos. | |
20:15 | drojf | slightly better |
20:15 | jcamins | Slightly. |
20:16 | cait | hm problem iwth this is that it's not really koha or ubuntu |
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20:16 | cait | it's a very general question |
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20:16 | drojf | and it raises a lot of questions before you can answer |
20:16 | jcamins | Yes, much too general. |
20:17 | kathryn | good morning cait and all :) |
20:17 | jcamins | I was thinking a link to the installation instructions would be the way to go. |
20:19 | drojf | those of ubuntu or koha? |
20:20 | oleonard | That kind of message seems to always come through Nabble. |
20:20 | rangi | yeah, they are never subscribed to the list |
20:21 | jcamins | drojf: both. |
20:21 | * oleonard | heads out |
20:21 | oleonard | bye #koha |
20:23 | * jcamins | prepares to do the same. |
20:23 | jcamins | So long. |
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20:59 | SJeffery | Is there currently a way to auto-generate a barcode as needed (meaning it would not be auto-filled)? I can't seem to find a way around the auto-filling. |
21:18 | libsysguy | anybody know if the boxes in advanced search are and-ed or or-ed together? |
21:19 | i thought it was and before but now it appears to be or | |
21:19 | cait | it should be and |
21:19 | if you are not using the 'more options' tomake it or | |
21:20 | libsysguy | so if i did a search for an item type and then set a specific library it should be item type and library |
21:21 | cait | yes |
21:21 | but not necessarily on th esame item | |
21:21 | only in the same record | |
21:21 | could that be what you see? | |
21:21 | libsysguy | oh yeah that may be it |
21:22 | so i am seeing a record with mult items | |
21:23 | the one in the correct location is is not the correct item type, the others are the correct item type in the incorrect location | |
21:23 | if that makes any sense | |
21:23 | rangi | yep |
21:24 | libsysguy | ok well that answers that |
21:24 | cait++ rangi++ | |
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21:27 | rangi | dpavlin++ |
21:27 | i knew there was something i didnt like about bug 8110, he hit the nail right on the head | |
21:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days |
21:36 | drojf | heh yes that is funny |
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21:49 | drojf | somehow i cannot send emails to the patches list. it worked only once |
21:50 | with git send-email that is | |
21:51 | "5.1.7 Complete address with domain, please ( http://portal.gmx.net/serverrules ) {mp032}" no idea if that means the sender or the recipient, but both are correct addresses | |
21:51 | rangi | i wonder if your mta is rewriting the from |
21:52 | drojf | hm. interesting. but how would it have worked 12 hours ago then? |
21:52 | rangi | hmm good point |
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21:54 | drojf | ah |
21:54 | der is a lot of crazy stuff in the mail.err | |
21:54 | there | |
21:55 | it tires to send mails as root5pamgmx.de | |
21:55 | tries | |
21:55 | rangi | ahhh |
21:55 | that doesnt seem right | |
21:55 | drojf | nope :) |
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22:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #93 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) |
22:53 | libsysguy | rangi do you know if TT filters is enabled in koha? |
22:54 | jcamins_away | If you use them yes. |
22:55 | libsysguy | jcamins_away what do you mean? |
22:55 | oh | |
22:55 | use like import | |
22:55 | jcamins_away | Right. There are examples. |
22:57 | libsysguy | jcamins_away do you know if you use them in the pl or the pm file? |
22:57 | just as a place to start looking | |
22:59 | jcamins_away | Uhhh... tt file. See any tecent patch of mine. |
23:00 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ch[…]tml/slide002.html |
23:00 | jcamins_away | Meting time. |
23:00 | Meeting | |
23:02 | libsysguy | thanks rangi and jcamins_away |
23:04 | drojf | alright, nice user error with the git send-email. i should sleep more :D |
23:04 | rangi | :) |
23:05 | jcamins_away | Or not... |
23:07 | libsysguy | no meeting? |
23:07 | so this may be a dumb question but i am trying to uri encode a TT variable | |
23:08 | the link that rangi sent me seemed like overkill | |
23:08 | am I just missing something | |
23:08 | rangi | probably |
23:09 | that first bit is how to use a filter , and the second block how to write one | |
23:09 | if you want to use a built in one | |
23:09 | just use it | |
23:09 | | filter | |
23:09 | eg | html | |
23:09 | or | uri | |
23:09 | libsysguy | that is what i was trying to use was | uri |
23:09 | http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]nual/Filters.html | |
23:10 | rangi | yep, then thats all you need to do |
23:10 | libsysguy | but I think im missing an include somewhere |
23:10 | rangi | why? |
23:10 | libsysguy | because its definitely not encoding |
23:10 | in my carnumber I added a + at the end | |
23:11 | rangi | it would throw an error if that filter didnt exist |
23:11 | libsysguy | so just like [% cardnumber | uri %] |
23:11 | rangi | yep |
23:11 | <a href="[% path %]?back=[% back | uri %]&title=[% title | uri %]"> like that | |
23:12 | libsysguy | yup its just like that |
23:12 | img src="/cgi-bin/koha/members/patronimage.pl?crdnum=[% borrower.cardnumber | uri %]" > | |
23:13 | rangi | yep, if that filter isnt there it will error out |
23:13 | libsysguy | crazy |
23:13 | ok ill keep poking at it | |
23:16 | drojf | rangi: could you make the random bug use three or four lines by default? it maked the monthly scoreboard go up and down depending on the length of the bug title |
23:17 | apart from that it's a pretty cool dashboard! | |
23:18 | rangi | drojf: i could if i wanted to learn css and i don't :) |
23:18 | drojf | i can understand that :) |
23:18 | rangi | however, its all in git so someone else can :) |
23:19 | https://gitorious.org/koha-dashboard | |
23:22 | drojf | excellent |
23:22 | * drojf | is bad at css though |
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23:23 | rangi | yeah im hoping we can persuade oleonard to take a look |
23:25 | * rangi | plays with bug 8377 |
23:25 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, Needs Signoff , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856 |
23:26 | rangi | while the kids are being good and playing with lego |
23:28 | drojf | rangi++ # excellent choice :) |
23:28 | i hope that rebasing thing really just worked | |
23:28 | rangi | it applied fine |
23:29 | drojf | ok i got a simple css fix locally. but no idea if that is the way somebody who knows css would do it |
23:29 | also i need a four line bug now to see what happens :D | |
23:31 | rangi | :-) |
23:31 | libsysguy | fml….rangi I found my mistake…I was modifying circ-menu.tt in the include folder not circ-menu.inc |
23:31 | rangi | that would do it :) |
23:31 | dcook | Mm, I've wondered about that one before |
23:31 | What is circ-menu.tt? Is it actually used for anything? | |
23:31 | libsysguy | i keep up those kind of mistakes around here and im going to earn a bad rep |
23:32 | confusing poor guys like me | |
23:32 | dcook | I almost did the same thing when I was making bug 7839 |
23:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7839 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Enhancement: Show routing lists attached to patron in Patron record |
23:33 | dcook | If it isn't actually used, I suggest we nix it, because it is a pain :/ |
23:33 | rangi | grep for it |
23:33 | dcook | On it |
23:34 | libsysguy | my emacs window is currently full of grep garbage |
23:34 | it found a binary file :-/ | |
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23:36 | cjh | libsysguy: iirc you can use -I to ignore binary files |
23:36 | rangi | drojf: you could take the stuff in opac-detail.pl and put it in a module |
23:36 | pass in the template as an object, get it back | |
23:37 | but it appears to be working! | |
23:37 | drojf | rangi: only need to learn how to do that :) |
23:37 | rangi | maybe ill do that as a follow up |
23:38 | the bonus would be could enable this in the staff client too, without having to duplicate all that code | |
23:38 | drojf | that would be nice |
23:38 | rangi | but its not a big enough deal to stop a sign off i dont think |
23:38 | its a no risk change afaict | |
23:38 | without the syspref, nothing happens | |
23:38 | libsysguy | cjh just blew my mind |
23:38 | cjh++ | |
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23:39 | rangi | hmm? |
23:39 | cjh | :) |
23:39 | libsysguy | and on that note im out for the night |
23:40 | rangi | cya |
23:40 | libsysguy | bye #koha |
23:40 | cjh | heh, night. |
23:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #93: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/93/ |
23:53 | kyle: Bug 7848 - Issues data missing from circulation notices | |
23:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7848 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Issues data missing from circulation notices |
23:53 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #94 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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23:56 | rangi | it works! |
23:56 | drojf | tweetbot`++ |
23:56 | mtj | sssh, dont tell mbalmer... |
23:57 | drojf | what is his problem with that? |
23:58 | rangi: what would be a good example function to look at for putting the code into a module and getting it working from the template then? |
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