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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:41 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 00:41 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #84: FIXED in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/84/ | |
| 00:41 | Chris Cormack: Bug 5327 : Follow up for TTParser test | |
| 00:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5327 major, P3, ---, sam-sanders, ASSIGNED , Unit tests required for all C4 modules |
| 00:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #85 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED) |
| 00:55 | wajasu | rangi: ok. i signed off bug 7143 |
| 00:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Bug for tracking changes to the about page |
| 00:55 | rangi | Yay! |
| 00:55 | * wajasu | a patch and a signoff in two days. what a roll! |
| 00:56 | i love git! | |
| 00:57 | rangi | Yeah git is awesome |
| 01:00 | wajasu | i can devel on my archlinux, with my VM sshfs on top of the kohaclone! So i get to reuse by local koha repo and switch branches! |
| 01:03 | i did: git am <patch> ; git dff --stat master bug7143 ; git difftool master bug7143; verified fix ; git format-patch origin | |
| 01:06 | rangi | Sweet |
| 01:29 | ago43 joined #koha | |
| 01:33 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #85: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/85/ |
| 01:33 | dcook: Bug 8314 Add MARCISBNs parameter to opac-detail.pl to show multiple isbns in OPAC | |
| 01:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8314 minor, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Pushed to Stable , Missing MARCISBNS param in opac-detail.pl |
| 03:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #86 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 03:20 | mtompset joined #koha | |
| 03:21 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:21 | Greetings, cail. | |
| 04:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #86: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/86/ |
| 04:10 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7286: rebuild_zebra_sliced for biblios and authorities | |
| 04:10 | * chrish: Bug 8323 fixing year sorting of a list | |
| 04:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof |
| 04:10 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8323 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrish, Pushed to Stable , User created lists not sorting properly | |
| 04:52 | druthb joined #koha | |
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| 05:17 | druthb joined #koha | |
| 05:18 | mtompset | Interesting enhancement bug 7286. |
| 05:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7286 enhancement, P2, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , Introduce rebuild_zebra_sliced.zsh to recursively rebuild zebra & be error proof |
| 05:55 | ropuch | Good morning |
| 06:03 | mbalmer joined #koha | |
| 06:13 | sophie_m joined #koha | |
| 06:25 | cait joined #koha | |
| 06:28 | mtompset | Greetings, ropuch. |
| 06:28 | Its afternoon here. | |
| 06:28 | It's also the weekend. :) | |
| 06:28 | * cait | waves |
| 06:28 | cait | weekend! |
| 06:29 | wahanui | weekend is near! |
| 06:29 | * mtompset | starts trying to forget Rebbeca Black's Friday. |
| 06:29 | mtompset | Hi, cait. |
| 06:29 | cait | hi mtompset :) |
| 06:30 | mtompset | Maybe you have some thoughts on this. |
| 06:30 | Our library imported their data from MARC21 format records. | |
| 06:30 | We had the price in 852$9 | |
| 06:30 | It wasn't transferred to the appropriate field. | |
| 06:31 | cait | how was your price formatted? |
| 06:31 | ropuch | mtompset: it's 8:30 am, saturday here |
| 06:31 | cait | and good morning ropuch :) |
| 06:31 | ropuch | ;> |
| 06:31 | mtompset | However, the items.marcxml actually has the data in it. |
| 06:31 | That's another problem. | |
| 06:31 | cait | can you give me an example? |
| 06:31 | ropuch | Guten Tag, cait [; |
| 06:31 | cait | the price will only work when you format it like 5.00 |
| 06:31 | mtompset | The prices were not consistently formatted. |
| 06:31 | cait | decimal point |
| 06:31 | no currency symbol | |
| 06:32 | mtompset | 365.00usd |
| 06:32 | cait | there you go |
| 06:32 | * mtompset | is looking for others. |
| 06:32 | cait | there is a bug about that |
| 06:33 | mtompset | Gift |
| 06:33 | cait | that the price fields don't like non numeric things |
| 06:33 | mtompset | Yes, that was the price field. |
| 06:33 | 5.25gbp | |
| 06:33 | 50.70php | |
| 06:33 | 2.50 | |
| 06:33 | cait | ah |
| 06:34 | 2.50 - did that not work too? | |
| 06:34 | mtompset | I didn't check. |
| 06:34 | I know some did work. | |
| 06:35 | cait | hm you said 852? |
| 06:35 | ropuch | It should be easy to fix though |
| 06:35 | cait | not 952? |
| 06:35 | mtompset | Yes. 852. |
| 06:35 | cait | where did you expect it to go? |
| 06:35 | mtompset | Look, we were importing data from multiple horrific sources. |
| 06:35 | cait | I was thinking about the price fields in items |
| 06:36 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 06:36 | cait | you wanted it to go in items? |
| 06:36 | mtompset | The problem is there a currency field too? |
| 06:37 | cait | hm not in items |
| 06:37 | but you confused me a bit :) | |
| 06:37 | sophie_m left #koha | |
| 06:37 | cait | perhaps we should start over before I tell you something wrong |
| 06:37 | I am still a bit sleepy | |
| 06:37 | just got up | |
| 06:37 | mtompset | Not a problem... I'm half-awake, and it's the middle of the day. :) |
| 06:38 | cait | so the data is in the marcxml |
| 06:38 | mtompset | yes. |
| 06:38 | cait | what did you expect to happen? |
| 06:38 | where is it missing? | |
| 06:38 | mtompset | items.price |
| 06:39 | cait | ok |
| 06:39 | that will never work | |
| 06:39 | mtompset | I was hoping that when we did the import that 852$9 would have gone into items.price |
| 06:39 | cait | you have to put the information in the 952$g, or v |
| 06:39 | fields | |
| 06:40 | sorry for bad grammar | |
| 06:40 | mtompset | don't worry. My grammar has been deteriorating as I deal with non-Canadian English sources. |
| 06:41 | I think it is adapting. | |
| 06:41 | Okay... next question... | |
| 06:41 | Let's say we generate a MARC file with duplicate data with the fix. | |
| 06:41 | what would happen if we imported the fixed version? | |
| 06:42 | cait | you can't overlay items |
| 06:42 | so if the items with the barcodes are already there | |
| 06:42 | they will not be updated | |
| 06:42 | I think I would try sql | |
| 06:42 | the problem is, that you want to bring it all to one currency | |
| 06:43 | mtompset | Okay, a backend fix it is. |
| 06:43 | cait | because the item data should all be your active currency |
| 06:43 | mtompset | I was telling my colleague this about the single currency. |
| 06:43 | cait | so the replacement prices and things are correct |
| 06:43 | when you charge a patron in circ | |
| 06:44 | mtompset | Can different branches have different currencies? |
| 06:45 | cait | not at the moment :( |
| 06:45 | the active currency setting is global for all | |
| 06:45 | it's mostly used by acquisitions | |
| 06:46 | if you don't use acquisitions... I think it doesn't matter so much in other places | |
| 06:46 | mtompset | My colleague was asking for a price list, so he could generate a spreadsheet for insurance purposes. |
| 06:46 | cait | I mean you could probably have different currencies in items for different branches... but because there are no currency symbols it could get a bit messy |
| 06:46 | and confusing | |
| 06:46 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 06:47 | cait | and some of the preferences are global |
| 06:47 | like the maxfine | |
| 06:47 | or other fine related preferences | |
| 06:48 | mtompset | I suppose the multi-currency is probably only a problem for international libraries. |
| 06:48 | How many of those are using Koha? | |
| 06:49 | cait | hm |
| 06:49 | there was opus presenting at kohacon - I thought they were... | |
| 06:49 | but I am not sure how they deal with currencies | |
| 06:49 | it's an interesting problems | |
| 06:49 | problem | |
| 06:49 | mtompset | I wonder if they agree on a base currency and enter it as such. |
| 06:49 | mbalmer | hook up a real point of sale system to Koha and you are done. |
| 06:49 | (using SIP, that is) | |
| 06:50 | then in Koha, you use only local currency | |
| 06:50 | mtompset | Doesn't quite work for our situation, though. |
| 06:50 | We have colleagues coming from abroad internationally. | |
| 06:51 | They donate books, or buy books and bring them. | |
| 06:51 | cait | mtompset: you have libraries in different countries, right? |
| 06:51 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 06:51 | cait | or is it only dealing with the gifts and books (acq) |
| 06:51 | ok | |
| 06:51 | hm. | |
| 06:51 | mtompset | it's a combination. |
| 06:51 | cait | I tihnk easiest would be an installation for each library |
| 06:52 | instead of a system with branches | |
| 06:52 | mtompset | But then how would the folks in country X know about the books in country Y? |
| 06:52 | cait | yeah exactly |
| 06:53 | I think some people have figured out how to build a union catalog from separate koha installations | |
| 06:53 | but I am not sure what the best way to do it would be | |
| 06:53 | mtompset | An installation for each country only solves half the problem of currency. |
| 06:53 | cait | do you want them to be able to order books? |
| 06:53 | from branch to branch? | |
| 06:53 | mtompset | Yes. |
| 06:53 | cait | ah ok |
| 06:53 | hm | |
| 06:53 | maybe ask on the list how others do it? | |
| 06:54 | there might be someone with ideas/best practices | |
| 06:54 | mtompset | For example, some Filipino language may have a close similarity to a Malaysian one, and some person in Malaysia may want to check out a book from the Philippines. |
| 06:54 | cait | it's a cool service :) |
| 06:57 | mtompset | We're not to that stage yet, but I am sure we will head there. |
| 06:59 | Just trying to help make the world a better place. Considering that language development activities overlap quite a bit with UN Millenium Development goals. | |
| 06:59 | http://www.un.org/millenniumgoals | |
| 07:01 | How do you check your active currency? | |
| 07:02 | cait | administration > currencies |
| 07:02 | it should be "checked" and also be 1.0000 | |
| 07:03 | mtompset | That must be newer than 3.6.3 |
| 07:03 | cait | hm no |
| 07:03 | we are using 3.6.3 and it's there :) | |
| 07:03 | it's one of the last points on the administration page | |
| 07:04 | in the acq area | |
| 07:04 | perhaps you should file an enh request for multiple currencies | |
| 07:05 | mtompset | CurrencyFormat is the only syspref I see. |
| 07:05 | cait | not talking about prefs :) |
| 07:05 | administration module home page - at the bottom | |
| 07:06 | mtompset | ah... currencies and exchange rates. |
| 07:07 | cait | mostly used for acq - I don't think it's used in circ, but might be wrong |
| 07:11 | mtompset | Interesting... we even have a FRF figure in there |
| 07:14 | Yes, we have some OOOOLD data. ;) | |
| 07:14 | cait | I don't know what frf is :) |
| 07:14 | mtompset | French Franc. |
| 07:14 | cait | oh :) |
| 07:14 | do you have DM too? | |
| 07:15 | mtompset | Hmm.m.... no, but that reminds me ... I should figure out that other bizarre one. |
| 07:15 | MPX | |
| 07:15 | Hmmm... doesn't match anything. | |
| 07:18 | Maybe it was supposed to be mexican peso. | |
| 07:18 | cait | and x as a placeholder |
| 07:18 | ? | |
| 07:18 | mtompset | 65.00mpx |
| 07:20 | Shoot... both items entered as mpx. | |
| 07:21 | ISBN: 1556190298 | |
| 07:23 | Cool. We have something that is out of print. :) | |
| 07:29 | I think the price has gone to 0, because you can't get it. :) | |
| 07:43 | Enjoy the weekend, #koha. | |
| 08:06 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 08:06 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:09 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 08:10 | drojf | hi cait :) |
| 08:10 | cait | what are you doing here on a weekend? ;) |
| 08:10 | drojf | enjoying the quiet channel ;) |
| 08:10 | cait | oh right |
| 08:10 | very zen... | |
| 08:10 | drojf | :D |
| 08:12 | cait | the right atmosphere to get started on my it law reading for today |
| 08:13 | drojf | yeah, it law :) |
| 08:14 | if you find a law that forbids my internet connection to be instable, slow and sucky please tell me | |
| 08:16 | cait | ok |
| 09:08 | drojf | will my patch fail QA if i flip a coin to make a decision at some point? |
| 09:09 | cait | lol |
| 09:09 | depends on the patch maybe? | |
| 09:11 | drojf | 856 h and l are the same thing. if i have both and they are not the same, i have to do something. i guess it's more acceptable for the user to just choose one so the result can be reproduced |
| 09:14 | cait | ? |
| 09:24 | drojf | nevermind, i changed it to no coin and just use one of the fields. its a lot less code like this |
| 09:43 | mbalmer | mveron? |
| 09:43 | wahanui | rumour has it mveron is amazed as well. You did some more Koha installations in Gemrany since then. Would like to spread Koha a little bit more in Switzerland as well |
| 09:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #87 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:50 | cait | forget mveron |
| 09:50 | wahanui | cait: I forgot mveron |
| 09:51 | cait | mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features! |
| 09:51 | mveron? | |
| 09:51 | wahanui | mveron is from switzerland, a koha developer and creating some nice new features! |
| 09:52 | drojf | drojf? |
| 09:52 | wahanui | well, drojf is ill and bored now! ;) |
| 09:52 | drojf | lol |
| 09:54 | cait | hm |
| 09:55 | hope you are no longer ill :) | |
| 09:55 | forget drojf | |
| 09:55 | wahanui | cait: I forgot drojf |
| 09:55 | drojf | forunately that illness is very long ago |
| 09:55 | fortunately | |
| 09:55 | cait | drojf is from Germany and developing Koha on a raspberry pi! |
| 09:55 | drojf | was |
| 09:55 | heh | |
| 09:55 | cait | did I spell that right |
| 09:55 | ? | |
| 09:55 | drojf | yes |
| 09:57 | grml. error in my test data | |
| 10:20 | drojf1 joined #koha | |
| 10:33 | drojf | weeeeeee thunderstorm again |
| 10:34 | cait | ooh |
| 10:34 | i want one too! | |
| 10:35 | drojf | i don't really see anything, i just hear thunder |
| 10:35 | it's not even really dark yet. weird | |
| 10:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #87: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/87/ |
| 10:42 | * veron: Bug 8335 - Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl | |
| 10:42 | * alex.arnaud: Bug 7299 pass itemnumber in ILSDI holditem service | |
| 10:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8335 minor, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Stable , Missing Icon PR.png or typo in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl |
| 10:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7299 normal, P3, ---, alex.arnaud, Pushed to Stable , ILSDI HoldItem service does't set the itemnumber in reserves table | |
| 11:25 | rangi | hmm |
| 11:25 | cait | hm? |
| 11:26 | drojf | mh! |
| 11:27 | * cait | gets nervous |
| 11:29 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html |
| 11:29 | updates in real time | |
| 11:29 | cait | updates of bug work? |
| 11:29 | rangi | yep |
| 11:30 | well sign offs | |
| 11:31 | it shows the last 5 sign offs | |
| 11:31 | cait | oh nice |
| 11:31 | hm | |
| 11:31 | where could we put that? | |
| 11:35 | drojf | it should do something if all 5 are done by the same person. like, shoot rainbows |
| 11:35 | cait | hm |
| 11:35 | make it 3 | |
| 11:35 | at the same time | |
| 11:35 | and ... rainbows :) | |
| 11:36 | or... kittens :) | |
| 11:36 | drojf | yeah, shoot kittens :D |
| 11:36 | cait | I didn't say that!! hehe |
| 11:36 | ok, ... was thinking it | |
| 11:38 | drojf | i bet we could do something crazy with ad placement and that thing. sponsor a signoffer and see your ad displayed on koha-community.org. it's just that i hate ads |
| 11:39 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html |
| 11:39 | cait | :) |
| 11:43 | we could combine with a monthly scoreboard | |
| 11:44 | rangi | yep |
| 11:50 | cait | and fudge sponsoring ;) |
| 11:53 | rangi | refresh now |
| 11:53 | cait | :) |
| 11:53 | perhaps make the script of the live update a bit bigger? | |
| 11:54 | I will have to make my name show up there :) | |
| 11:54 | but first I have to buy some food | |
| 11:54 | rangi | k |
| 11:54 | well the scoreboard part isnt automatic yet | |
| 11:54 | cait | ah ok |
| 11:54 | rangi | but if people like it, i can make it update real time too |
| 11:55 | but the live bit i can make bigger | |
| 11:55 | hows that? | |
| 11:55 | ill see if can get the bug name in too | |
| 11:55 | cait | better :) |
| 11:56 | rangi++ | |
| 11:57 | you made it smaller again :) | |
| 11:57 | still experimenting? | |
| 11:58 | rangi | nope didnt make it smaller |
| 11:58 | cait | hm weird |
| 11:58 | ah caching maybe | |
| 12:03 | rangi | right |
| 12:03 | refresh again :) | |
| 12:03 | now i just need css help | |
| 12:04 | cait | :) |
| 12:04 | I didn't dare to ask you for the bug description :) | |
| 12:04 | perhaps another brak after tne name | |
| 12:04 | to give more room for the description | |
| 12:05 | name break bug number description break time | |
| 12:05 | I would do | |
| 12:05 | rangi | maybe tomorrow, time for sleep now |
| 12:05 | :) | |
| 12:05 | cait | ok |
| 12:05 | sleep well :) | |
| 12:06 | ropuch | Huh, I'm considering a quick nap, too |
| 12:06 | I feel less prductive than i should be ;> | |
| 12:06 | @wunder Wroclaw | |
| 12:06 | huginn | ropuch: The current temperature in Wroclaw, Poland is 27.0°C (1:30 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:53 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 12:53 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 24.1°C (2:43 PM CEST on July 07, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:53 | jcamins | semarie++ |
| 12:54 | cait | semarie++ |
| 13:42 | NateC joined #koha | |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Anyone around with a current master install? |
| 14:51 | * jcamins | remembers magnuse's server. |
| 14:57 | cait | magnuse++ |
| 14:57 | I used it for my presentation too | |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Unfortunately, I can't find a search that gets me enough results. |
| 14:57 | drojf joined #koha | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | Could you please do a search on the OPAC that gets more than two pages of results, and see if the next button works? |
| 15:07 | cait | jcamins: where? |
| 15:07 | current master? | |
| 15:07 | jcamins | cait: yup. |
| 15:07 | cait | have to update first |
| 15:07 | give me 5 min | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 15:16 | mbalmer | @later tell mveron check your email ;) |
| 15:16 | huginn | mbalmer: The operation succeeded. |
| 15:17 | francharb joined #koha | |
| 15:17 | drojf | mbalmer: i bet he checks the beach ;) |
| 15:17 | mbalmer | yes, that's for sure, ouza, metaxa, metaxa and nice food. I am jealous a bit... |
| 15:18 | ropuch | ouzo++ |
| 15:18 | ;) | |
| 15:18 | mbalmer | anyway, gotta run, laterz.. |
| 15:18 | ropuch | See ya |
| 15:18 | :) | |
| 15:18 | mbalmer | (bbq party) |
| 15:21 | francharb | hello #koha |
| 15:21 | ropuch | Hi francharb |
| 15:22 | cait | hi francharb |
| 15:22 | hi all | |
| 15:22 | drojf | hey francharb |
| 15:22 | wahanui | francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
| 15:22 | * cait | reads back |
| 15:22 | francharb | :) |
| 15:29 | drojf | w00t. my patch for bug 8377 works in a sandbox :) |
| 15:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, 5p4m, ASSIGNED , Show HTML5 video/ audio in OPAC for media files in 856 |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 15:32 | cait | drojf: yay! |
| 15:32 | add a note to the bug? | |
| 15:32 | maybe a keyword sandbox if that works | |
| 15:33 | drojf | i added a comment |
| 15:33 | Schlüsselwort namens „sandbox“ ist nicht bekannt. Sie können sich die Liste gültiger Schlüsselwörter anzeigen lassen. | |
| 15:33 | only "regression" is allowed as keyword | |
| 15:34 | cait | ok |
| 15:34 | I have an installation | |
| 15:34 | where getting reseults nealry takes a minute now | |
| 15:34 | after it used to be quite fast | |
| 15:34 | someone an idea about that? :( | |
| 15:35 | ropuch | top/iotop ;> |
| 15:51 | drojf | wow. that kohacon 2013 survey is really thrilling |
| 15:51 | jcamins | drojf: what are the current standigns? |
| 15:51 | *standings | |
| 15:51 | * jcamins | is currently finding that OPAC paging is highly broken. |
| 15:52 | jcamins | Okay, it worked in 3.8.2. |
| 15:52 | drojf | 845The National Capital Region, USA [Oct or Mar] (A1) |
| 15:52 | 860Erie, Pennsylvania, USA [Summer] (A2) | |
| 15:52 | 898Reno, NV, USA [Sept or Oct] (A3) | |
| 15:52 | 888Ibadan, Nigeria [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A4) | |
| 15:52 | 897Córdoba, Argentina [Jul, Aug, or Sept] (A5) | |
| 15:52 | 847Not completed or Not displayed | |
| 15:52 | *flood* | |
| 15:53 | jcamins | Wow. |
| 15:53 | drojf | or i slipped somewhere in the spreadsheat and all that is not true :D |
| 15:54 | jcamins | lol |
| 15:54 | cait | very close |
| 15:55 | drojf: do oyu have an installation on master? | |
| 15:55 | could oyu test something for me? | |
| 15:56 | drojf | my git is master. or do you mean something else? |
| 15:57 | cait | that is perfect |
| 15:57 | go to your opac | |
| 15:57 | and search someting | |
| 15:58 | and look at the first result on any result page | |
| 15:59 | drojf | ok mom |
| 16:00 | what exactly should i look at? | |
| 16:00 | cait | does it have a title? |
| 16:00 | showing | |
| 16:00 | and is it the xslt view? | |
| 16:01 | drojf | it has a title. but i think it's not xslt here, wait |
| 16:04 | is the general xslt option gone? | |
| 16:04 | i can only choose a file | |
| 16:05 | ah | |
| 16:05 | stupid | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | drojf: default |
| 16:05 | drojf | yes |
| 16:05 | thanks | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | drojf: it's less than obvious. |
| 16:05 | I had that response too earlier. | |
| 16:05 | drojf | yes but reading first would have helped ;) |
| 16:05 | cait: so i should turn it on and see? it was off | |
| 16:05 | cait | yes please |
| 16:07 | drojf | oh. plack. better restart |
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| 16:08 | drojf | cait: they do have titles |
| 16:10 | cait | sigh |
| 16:10 | ok | |
| 16:10 | drojf | did you break something then? |
| 16:10 | cait | no idea |
| 16:10 | I should not be able to brak something in master :( | |
| 16:11 | I have rerun makefile | |
| 16:11 | switched to dom indexing | |
| 16:11 | and doing a total reindex now | |
| 16:11 | if that does not fix it | |
| 16:11 | I am out of ideas | |
| 16:12 | ropuch | cait: try to check top / iotop output |
| 16:12 | cait | ropuch: waiting for the inex to finish |
| 16:13 | I am not sure what i woul dsee ther | |
| 16:13 | ropuch | I had one testing server killed by nullmailer + rsyslogd |
| 16:13 | cait | when I do a search it looks like the browser died |
| 16:13 | and then after waiting a long time I get results | |
| 16:13 | ropuch | iotop will show disk operations, the problem might be linux-related |
| 16:13 | Just a guess, though | |
| 16:14 | cait | thx ropuch :) |
| 16:14 | still a linux newb | |
| 16:14 | drojf | did you check for that one second bug we had a few days ago? ;) |
| 16:14 | cait | learning... slowly |
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| 16:14 | cait | drojf: nope - loking at this smiley I am not sure if you are seroius |
| 16:14 | but how would I do that in case you are? | |
| 16:15 | drojf | if you have not looked i am serious. what was it about? ntp smeothing something. i think you would generally see that you use a lot of cpu. wait |
| 16:16 | cait | hm |
| 16:16 | everything besides a search using zebra is behaving normally :( | |
| 16:16 | ropuch | I had a situation, when nullmaler was trying to send things via mail command, which was not installed,nullmailer was trying, syslogd was loggin and all this read/write disk operation slowed whole box to turtle speed |
| 16:16 | cait | no |
| 16:16 | not my symptoms I fear :( | |
| 16:17 | I can watch tv, use the staff client... everything I want on this laptop | |
| 16:17 | only a search in opac is broken | |
| 16:17 | drojf | cait: http://www.heise.de/open/meldu[…]eren-1629683.html if you rebooted since then it should not be anything like that |
| 16:17 | ok that does not sound like this bug | |
| 16:17 | cait | no :( |
| 16:17 | *sigh* | |
| 16:17 | oh no | |
| 16:17 | result list is totally broken now for me :( | |
| 16:18 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
| 16:18 | Do searches in the staff client work? | |
| 16:18 | drojf | have you cleared your cache? i'm not sure what totally broken means |
| 16:24 | cait | still the same |
| 16:24 | seems to freeze the browser | |
| 16:24 | then after a minute or so i get results | |
| 16:24 | sorry, had to take care of the washing machine | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Could it be javascript? |
| 16:25 | ropuch | And how's the search in staff client? |
| 16:25 | drojf | do you have a second browser? |
| 16:25 | oh | |
| 16:25 | do oyu have highlighting on? | |
| 16:25 | ropuch | jcamins: that's my guess too |
| 16:25 | cait | interesting |
| 16:25 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:25 | drojf | i had an error in the sandbox about that |
| 16:25 | cait | it's fast in staff |
| 16:25 | but the result list is broken | |
| 16:25 | http://librarygeekgirl.de/pics/Auswahl_002.png | |
| 16:26 | jcamins | o.O |
| 16:26 | Hm. | |
| 16:26 | * cait | reindexes again |
| 16:26 | cait | I did -r |
| 16:26 | drojf | oh that looks weird :( |
| 16:26 | cait | yeah :( |
| 16:27 | and in opac i ttakes a 100 years to come up with omething similar | |
| 16:27 | the logs are clean | |
| 16:27 | I have noooo idea whatsoever is happening | |
| 16:28 | hm | |
| 16:28 | restart memcache maybe? | |
| 16:28 | * cait | will try that |
| 16:28 | cait | only thing I haven't restarted or redone now |
| 16:29 | jcamins | That's what happens when your indexing configuration files are missing. |
| 16:29 | Check zebra_bib_index_mode in koha-conf.xml? | |
| 16:30 | You installed it with DOM, but I'm wondering if koha-conf.xml wasn't rewritten for some reason. | |
| 16:32 | cait | ok |
| 16:32 | checking | |
| 16:33 | dom | |
| 16:33 | same for auth | |
| 16:33 | no grs | |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 16:33 | Good. | |
| 16:33 | But if you had memcached running, that might have had the old koha-conf.xml cached. | |
| 16:34 | Try the search again? | |
| 16:35 | cait | browser not reacting |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Drat. |
| 16:35 | Clear your browser cache? | |
| 16:42 | cait | bah |
| 16:42 | it's still th same | |
| 16:42 | I will check the error logs again after this search... | |
| 16:42 | perhaps at least something in there now | |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Do other pages in the OPAC load quickly? |
| 16:45 | Do you have anything in opacuserjs? | |
| 16:47 | cait | let me check |
| 16:47 | hm other pages are fast | |
| 16:47 | opac-authorities for example | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Okay, that's weird. |
| 16:47 | cait | nothing in opac-user |
| 16:47 | js | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Try restarting the server/ |
| 16:48 | *? | |
| 16:48 | cait | hm apache? |
| 16:48 | wahanui | apache is, like, the ram hog |
| 16:49 | jcamins | I had in mind the entire system, in case it's the TT files stored in shared memory. |
| 16:49 | cait | hm |
| 16:49 | jcamins | (it shouldn't be possible for them to get out of sync, but I'm running out of ideas) |
| 16:49 | cait | ok |
| 16:49 | I will reboot | |
| 16:50 | interesting | |
| 16:50 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 16:50 | cait | I have a second installaton on this computer |
| 16:50 | and it has the same problem | |
| 16:51 | or.. mom | |
| 16:51 | one moment | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | After rebooting? |
| 16:51 | Darn. | |
| 16:51 | cait | I didn't reboot yet |
| 16:51 | or I would have been gone | |
| 16:52 | was cataloging something into the second installation | |
| 16:52 | rebooting now | |
| 16:57 | drojf | long reboot… |
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| 16:58 | cait | back |
| 16:59 | jcamins | Welcome back. |
| 17:04 | cait | ook |
| 17:04 | in my 3.6.x installation it works | |
| 17:04 | and the other installation is dead now | |
| 17:04 | localhost | |
| 17:04 | wahanui | i guess localhost is 0.1 |
| 17:05 | cait | The requested URL / was not found on this server. |
| 17:06 | hmm | |
| 17:06 | edited the http-conf and corrected a problem there | |
| 17:06 | now the opac is back but search gives no results | |
| 17:07 | started zebra server.. not sure why it was gone | |
| 17:07 | now it freezes again | |
| 17:07 | ok, I have to go :( | |
| 17:07 | it's still broken, how frustrating | |
| 17:07 | jcamins++ ropuch++ drojf++ for helping me | |
| 17:08 | at least I know now it's something with this installation and probably not a linux problem | |
| 17:08 | drojf | :( |
| 17:08 | jcamins | The collar of my shirt smells like flowers. |
| 17:09 | Lavender. | |
| 17:09 | Oh! I bet my wife put some of her incense near it when I hung it up to get the wrinkles to fall out. | |
| 17:49 | drojf | how can i mark at patch obsolete in bugzilla? |
| 17:53 | found it | |
| 18:16 | rangi | jcamins_away: thanks for the catch with the opac nav, reverted it |
| 18:19 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #88 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:10 | Project Koha_3.8.x build #88: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/88/ | |
| 19:10 | Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 5981 - OPAC: Add limits to search history" | |
| 19:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5981 normal, P5 - low, ---, alex.arnaud, ASSIGNED , OPAC: Add limits to search history |
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| 19:36 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/scroller.html |
| 19:36 | now with more scrolling | |
| 19:38 | drojf | but also more google :P |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | rangi do you know if there is a pacakge to install koha deps? |
| 19:41 | rangi | its just jquery, ill wget that file to my server it makes you feel better, i was just using their bandwidth not mine :) |
| 19:41 | libsysguy: just install koha-common | |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | was there a repo that i need to add? |
| 19:41 | i couldn't find that on the wiki | |
| 19:42 | rangi | bywater isnt using the packages yet? |
| 19:42 | libsysguy | this is for my dev install |
| 19:42 | and no | |
| 19:42 | I don't think so anyway | |
| 19:42 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 19:42 | doing it the hard way then :( | |
| 19:43 | what i do is install the package, set it up do a koha-create | |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | i think it is an issue with custom code for some libraries |
| 19:43 | from back in the day | |
| 19:43 | rangi | yeah there is a script to build packages too, so you can do that if you have to |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | isn't that the one that jcamins worked on? |
| 19:44 | rangi | once created my instance, just change the koha-conf.xml and virtual host to point to the git checkout |
| 19:44 | its the one that the packages are built from, debian/build-git-snapshot | |
| 19:44 | comes with koha | |
| 19:45 | libsysguy | ah |
| 19:45 | * libsysguy | has apparent'y been fighting uphill for a long time |
| 19:46 | rangi | drojf: there you go |
| 19:47 | libsysguy: the win comes in when you have repos set up, you can have pockets for clients | |
| 19:47 | push the package to the repo, then apt-get update; upgrade | |
| 19:47 | libsysguy | I may have to hit up larry about that |
| 19:48 | may make his life easier | |
| 19:49 | rangi | well at the start it wont it will take a chunk of time to set up, thats probably where its stuck at |
| 19:49 | but it scales much better | |
| 19:49 | libsysguy | speaking of scaling…I have been seeing some stuff about koha and nginx |
| 19:49 | jcamins was saying he saw a pretty big performance boost | |
| 19:50 | rangi | specially with something like puppet so you can out updates across a cluster |
| 19:50 | well you cant run koha just with nginx | |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | ugh (wishes we had clustering set up) |
| 19:50 | rangi | you need either plack, or apache or something behind it still |
| 19:50 | libsysguy | and plack still isn't ready for intranet right/ |
| 19:51 | rangi | not sure, i think some are running it in production, but youd want to pick the client to try it on |
| 19:51 | its way more ready than the faux koha implementation... but comparing ourselves to them ... isnt really even worth doing | |
| 19:51 | libsysguy | right…not a picky one |
| 19:52 | LOL | |
| 19:52 | yeah i had heard rumors of that too | |
| 19:52 | its been awhile since i've been on the main board | |
| 19:52 | so i just get the devel list | |
| 19:52 | rangi | id try to catch up with dobrica |
| 19:52 | libsysguy | which is…interesting |
| 19:53 | rangi | he is the main plack person |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 19:53 | rangi | drojf has it running on his raspberry pi, and from all accounts works well |
| 19:53 | libsysguy | well that is promising |
| 19:54 | rangi | it is really fast |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | plack is basically a caching engine right? |
| 19:55 | * libsysguy | is not too familiar with it |
| 19:58 | rangi | nope |
| 19:58 | libsysguy | crap |
| 19:58 | rangi | http://plackperl.org/ |
| 19:58 | gotta go feed the kids bbiab | |
| 19:59 | libsysguy | w00t catalyst is at the top of the supported list |
| 19:59 | :p | |
| 20:07 | jcamins | I had nginx in front of Apache. |
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| 20:14 | drojf | rangi++ # awesome, no google :) |
| 20:15 | and it scrolls my name :) | |
| 20:17 | libsysguy: you would want to try plack on a test install first maybe but from what i can see the staff client works quite good with it. but i have to admit i don't do real library work with it | |
| 20:19 | francharb | good morning/afternoon/night all |
| 20:19 | see ya | |
| 20:20 | libsysguy | thanks drojf! I'll test it out on my test box (when I finish setting it up) |
| 20:20 | I haven't dont a koha install in so long I've forgotten how :p | |
| 20:20 | jcamins | It's very easy. |
| 20:20 | drojf | apt-get install koha-common, done |
| 20:20 | :) | |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | i think i borked the install trying to get it to run alongside my catalyst work |
| 20:21 | drojf | whoops |
| 20:21 | libsysguy | yeah i am reinstalling now |
| 20:22 | with koha-common you can still run a git install right? | |
| 20:22 | ropuch | Yup |
| 20:22 | drojf | yes you just have to pint it to git |
| 20:23 | point | |
| 20:23 | ropuch | I;m installing koha-comman only to get dependendencies ;> |
| 20:23 | libsysguy | yeah that is what i was trying to use it for |
| 20:23 | and it was missing CHI, DateTime, and Moose | |
| 20:23 | but like i said, i probably borked the install lol | |
| 20:24 | ropuch | Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt |
| 20:25 | libsysguy | are they in sid? |
| 20:25 | or just no available at all | |
| 20:25 | ropuch | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 20:26 | You need to add repo and key | |
| 20:27 | jcamins | Date::Pagination and Paginator? What are those? |
| 20:28 | ropuch | Dunno, Makefile.PL from master branch wanted it installed ;> |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Huh. Wonder what they're fore. |
| 20:29 | libsysguy | paging dates of course :p |
| 20:29 | ropuch | Date::Pagination & Paginator are the only two modules not available via apt |
| 20:29 | Uh | |
| 20:29 | Data::Paginator - Pagination with Moose | |
| 20:29 | ;> | |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Well, I'll package those for my repo at some point. |
| 20:30 | Not right now. | |
| 20:30 | libsysguy | jcamins are you doing something more important? |
| 20:31 | jcamins | libsysguy: being suitably dignified for the first reader at a wedding? :P |
| 20:31 | libsysguy | i see |
| 20:31 | well koha devel sounds more fun to me | |
| 20:32 | but to each their own :p | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:32 | Hm, no Time::Progress, either? | |
| 20:35 | ropuch | Oh? |
| 20:35 | * jcamins | just ran koha_perl_deps.pl -m |
| 20:35 | ropuch | Oh? |
| 20:35 | Filename: pool/universe/libt/libtime-progress-perl/libtime-progress-perl_1.7-1_all.deb | |
| 20:36 | I;m running Ubuntu-Server 12.04 + koha squeeze repos | |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Ah, I'm on Debian. |
| 20:37 | Oh, no, I just misspelled progress. | |
| 20:40 | libsysguy | ok so for a package newb…how do i switch it over to git once i've installed all the deps? |
| 20:40 | jcamins | Just do a regular git install. |
| 20:40 | libsysguy | oh |
| 20:40 | well that is easy enough | |
| 20:40 | jcamins | You install koha-common to make it install all the dependencies, then install Koha via git. |
| 20:41 | libsysguy | so the koha-common package doesn't actually do anything more than install the deps? |
| 20:41 | * libsysguy | is just curious |
| 20:42 | jcamins | It installs all the code and scripts so that you can create as many instances as you want. |
| 20:42 | libsysguy | ok that was my next question |
| 20:42 | :P | |
| 20:43 | "do I still get all the package goodness" | |
| 20:43 | lol | |
| 20:43 | jcamins | Well, you can't use the scripts if you're doing a git install. |
| 20:43 | libsysguy | but i could also run packages |
| 20:43 | and it wouldn't complain too much | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:44 | Just change the ports one is using. | |
| 20:44 | Or use virtual hosts. | |
| 20:44 | libsysguy | right |
| 20:44 | that is what i am going to try and set up with catalyst | |
| 20:44 | run them side by side and see who dies first | |
| 20:45 | if koha ever downloads…i forget how big the codebase is | |
| 20:45 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 20:49 | Well, this is unfortunate. | |
| 20:49 | libsysguy | ? |
| 20:49 | jcamins | The Perl modules that the new solr code depends on apparently don't compile. |
| 20:49 | libsysguy | -_- |
| 20:49 | *sigh* | |
| 20:50 | jcamins | I'll try again with pbuilder, just in case that works better. |
| 20:51 | ropuch | libtext-unaccent-perl is rquired, but Makefile.PL won't complain about it |
| 20:52 | jcamins | ropuch: why not? |
| 20:52 | Ooh, in a completely clean environment they build! | |
| 20:52 | :D | |
| 20:52 | ropuch | Dunno, I've passed Makefile.Pl , make && make test with no errors |
| 20:52 | But web installer complain about it | |
| 20:52 | ;> | |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Wait. |
| 20:53 | Maybe not. | |
| 20:53 | There is no package. | |
| 20:53 | pastebot | "libsysguy" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "deps" (15 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/15 |
| 20:54 | libsysguy | so these are the missing deps I see after installing koha-common |
| 20:54 | ropuch | Add libtext-unaccent-perl to the list |
| 20:55 | jcamins | Most are packaged. |
| 20:56 | ropuch | Yup, Date::Pagin ones are the only ones that are not |
| 20:57 | jcamins | And Data::Paginator has beat me. |
| 20:57 | Meh. It does say it's optional. | |
| 21:02 | Ooh, Graphics Magick is now available from Debian apt repos. | |
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| 21:16 | cait | hi drojf1 |
| 21:16 | drojf1 | hey cait |
| 21:35 | i wrote something about koha performance on the raspi, including screen recordings with and without plack if anyone is interested http://abunchofthings.net/blog[…]aspberry-pi-opac/ | |
| 21:37 | jcamins | drojf++ |
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| 21:39 | mbalmer | n'evening |
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