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| 03:19 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
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| 03:29 | Judit1 | hi |
| 03:29 | wahanui | privet, Judit1 |
| 03:39 | mtompset | Greetings, Judit1 |
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| 03:49 | vkm | hello all |
| 03:49 | may i know a script to get checkin report in a date range | |
| 03:50 | in koha report library there is no such script or let me know any trick to get the above report please | |
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| 03:53 | mib_5tfxyk | hello |
| 03:53 | wahanui | what's up, mib_5tfxyk |
| 03:54 | mib_5tfxyk | please let me know script to get checkin report in date range |
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| 04:28 | * mtompset | doesn't know the answer. :( |
| 04:28 | mib_5tfxyk | ok |
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| 05:06 | mib_x2j5y8 | hi dear all of you i am pankaj i am use koha 3.8 and i want to installed SIP2 . |
| 05:09 | dear friends how can installed and use koha SIP2 please help me ...... | |
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| 05:23 | rakesh | Hi |
| 05:24 | any one there? | |
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| 05:26 | * mtompset | doesn't know the answer. :( |
| 05:26 | mtompset | sip2? |
| 05:27 | rakesh | Hi |
| 05:28 | i am facing error in installing perl dependencies for koha, ubuntu version is 12.04, namely Net::Z3950::ZOOM | |
| 05:29 | it says installation seems impossible | |
| 05:30 | rangi | rakesh: doing sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl ? |
| 05:30 | and for sip2 | |
| 05:30 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]SIP2_server_setup | |
| 05:32 | rakesh | no, ive done install net:Z3950:zoom |
| 05:32 | i am doing it in cpan | |
| 05:32 | rangi | why would you do that? |
| 05:33 | not use the ubuntu packages? | |
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| 05:38 | rakesh1 | hi any 1 there? |
| 05:39 | rangi | the same people as last time you asked |
| 05:40 | 17:32 < rakesh> no, ive done install net:Z3950:zoom | |
| 05:40 | 17:32 < rakesh> i am doing it in cpan | |
| 05:40 | 17:32 <@rangi> why would you do that? | |
| 05:40 | 17:32 <@rangi> not use the ubuntu packages? | |
| 05:40 | rakesh1 | ya |
| 05:40 | no ive not tried ti use the ubuntu packages | |
| 05:40 | cait | you should |
| 05:40 | rakesh1 | how to do that plz guide' |
| 05:40 | cait | it makes your life a looo teasier |
| 05:42 | rakesh1 | plz guide how to install it through the ubuntu package method |
| 05:42 | rangi | sudo apt-get install libnet-z3950-zoom-perl |
| 05:42 | rakesh1 | kk |
| 05:42 | i will try that | |
| 05:43 | and secondly the error also comes in installing XML::Libxslt | |
| 05:43 | rangi | do that from packages too |
| 05:44 | you should only ever use cpan if the file is not packaged in ubuntu | |
| 05:44 | rakesh1 | package it also says install impossible moreover gives 1 more error that cannot make "makefile.pl" |
| 05:44 | make cannot install and test | |
| 05:44 | how to solve that | |
| 05:44 | rangi | and for 12.04 they all are |
| 05:44 | rakesh1: dont install it from cpan | |
| 05:46 | sudo apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl | |
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| 05:54 | rakesh3 | hi any 1 there? |
| 05:54 | same person | |
| 05:55 | rakesh, rakesh1, rakesh2 actually my internet disconnects | |
| 05:56 | any 1? | |
| 06:01 | my prob is that i get error while installing XML:LibXSLT via cpan | |
| 06:01 | it gives me two errors | |
| 06:01 | 1st is the makefiel error | |
| 06:01 | srry makefile.pl | |
| 06:02 | and secong goes the rror it says install seems impossible | |
| 06:03 | rangi | 17:44 <@rangi> rakesh1: dont install it from cpan |
| 06:03 | 17:46 <@rangi> sudo apt-get install libxml-libxslt-perl | |
| 06:03 | dont install from cpan, for anything | |
| 06:03 | rakesh3 | kk |
| 06:04 | and i would like to ask u that i ve installed the 12.04 version of ubuntu server does that make a problem? | |
| 06:04 | rangi | no |
| 06:05 | whats a problem is not using the ubuntu packaged versions of the modules | |
| 06:05 | rakesh3 | bcause i tried to install koha earlier on ubuntu desktop and it worked like a charm |
| 06:05 | kk i will install through ubuntu aptitude' | |
| 06:05 | rangi | that way you get them upgraded for security etc |
| 06:06 | rakesh3 | okk |
| 06:06 | rangi | if you install with cpan, you need to watch the bug trackers of all the modules to make sure you upgrade when you need to |
| 06:06 | rakesh3 | ok |
| 06:07 | and there was a serious error that couldnt make "makefile.pl" for xxxxxxxxxxxxx.tar.gz | |
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| 06:09 | rakesh3 | thnx for all your guide |
| 06:09 | will contact u in the future if any prob occur' | |
| 06:09 | :) | |
| 06:11 | rangi | my bill is in the mail |
| 06:12 | cait | lol |
| 06:12 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:13 | Judit1 | :) |
| 06:13 | cait | hi alex_a and Judit1 |
| 06:13 | Judit1 | hi all |
| 06:13 | alex_a | salut cait |
| 06:16 | rangi | hi alex_a and Judit1 |
| 06:16 | Judit1 | did you have fun at kohacon? |
| 06:16 | rangi | you voted for kohacon13 yet? |
| 06:16 | i sure did | |
| 06:17 | Judit1 | i didnt |
| 06:17 | vote | |
| 06:17 | i am not going, so it is not fair to vote i guess | |
| 06:17 | alex_a | hi rangi |
| 06:19 | i didnt vote neither | |
| 06:19 | cait | alex_a: why not? |
| 06:19 | alex_a | cait: where it is ? |
| 06:20 | :) | |
| 06:20 | cait: Could you give me the link ? I will share with biblibre | |
| 06:20 | cait | http://survey.web2learning.net[…]dex.php?sid=91534 |
| 06:20 | alex_a | thx ! |
| 06:20 | rangi | its on koha-community.org too |
| 06:20 | cait | KohaCon13 vote is http://survey.web2learning.net[…]dex.php?sid=91534 |
| 06:21 | rangi | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]2013-voting-open/ |
| 06:23 | * rangi | hopes he gets to hang out with alex_a again |
| 06:23 | rangi | even if we have to communicate with sign language :-) |
| 06:23 | i promise to try to learn some french before next kohacon | |
| 06:24 | * cait | thinks beer seemed to work too |
| 06:25 | Judit1 | :D |
| 06:26 | rangi | beer always works |
| 06:26 | Judit1 | in many ways |
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| 06:29 | alex_a | rangi: :) |
| 06:29 | i will try to improve my english ... | |
| 06:29 | Judit1 | ah, just drink more |
| 06:32 | rangi | hehe |
| 06:32 | http://blog.networksaremadeofs[…]ud-is-not-for-me/ | |
| 06:33 | from fmarier, quite a good write up | |
| 06:33 | alex_a | National Capital Region of the United States => why not just Washington ? |
| 06:33 | it's Washington right ? | |
| 06:33 | Judit1 | there are more washingtons |
| 06:34 | alex_a | Washington D.C. ? |
| 06:34 | Judit1 | better |
| 06:34 | alex_a | \o |
| 06:34 | Judit1 | only one washington d c |
| 06:34 | alex_a | washington DC is shorter then National Capital Region of the United States :) |
| 06:35 | rangi | hehe this is true :) |
| 06:35 | alex_a | s/then/than/ |
| 06:35 | Judit1 | National Capital Region of the United States is ore impressive |
| 06:35 | i guess :) | |
| 06:35 | rangi | i think it might actually end up in somewhere in maryland (which is the state surrounding DC) but for us non usians |
| 06:35 | Judit1 | fro some |
| 06:35 | rangi | its all the same place |
| 06:37 | did you know DC doesnt have a senator? | |
| 06:38 | or a rep in the house of congress either | |
| 06:39 | useless facts i know that help win beer at pub quizzes | |
| 06:40 | cait | lol |
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| 06:46 | francharb | hello |
| 06:46 | Judit1 | hi |
| 06:46 | wahanui | niihau, Judit1 |
| 06:48 | rangi | hiya francharb |
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| 06:54 | rangi | hi laurence |
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| 07:09 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 07:09 | rangi | hi gaetan_B |
| 07:11 | hmmm | |
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| 07:12 | kf | good morning #koha |
| 07:12 | rangi | did we used to be able to turn moderation on reviews off? i thought we could? |
| 07:13 | kf | I think only for tags, but not entirely sure |
| 07:13 | rangi | darn |
| 07:13 | kf | the problem is that comments are buggy right now |
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| 07:13 | kf | I have to retest and file a bug report |
| 07:13 | rangi | hmm buggy in what way? |
| 07:13 | kf | but what I saw is: |
| 07:13 | rangi | the real problem for me is i cant turn moderation off |
| 07:13 | kf | add a new comment, hit f5 - it will disappear |
| 07:13 | edit a moderated comment - it will create a new comment | |
| 07:14 | but I still have to confirm that, was testing something else and ran out of time | |
| 07:14 | rangi | right, those are bugs alright, but i still need to be able to create an unmoderated comment :) |
| 07:14 | kf | I think that will need another pref :( |
| 07:15 | rangi | i dont mind prefs, prefs are better than doing it any other way |
| 07:15 | kf | I don't mind prefs too and I thin this one would make sense - but needs a patch :) |
| 07:16 | hm interesting | |
| 07:16 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 07:16 | rangi | yeah a pref and and couple of lines in C4/Review.pm |
| 07:16 | kf | bug 1868 |
| 07:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1868 enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, RESOLVED MOVED, Comments in OPAC |
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| 07:17 | rangi | lol i wrote this crap |
| 07:17 | Author: rangi <rangi> | |
| 07:17 | Date: Sat Sep 3 00:05:40 2005 +0000 | |
| 07:17 | lol | |
| 07:17 | kf | looks morelike frederic? |
| 07:17 | notsure where the duplicate bug is it mentions | |
| 07:17 | rangi | no the original code |
| 07:17 | Author: rangi <rangi> | |
| 07:17 | Date: Sat Jun 17 04:26:38 2006 +0000 | |
| 07:17 | kf | oh |
| 07:18 | rangi | Admin interface to approve reviews, not finished yet |
| 07:18 | Needs a script to delete a review and to approve one. Will work on this later (taking a break to watch rugby) | |
| 07:18 | kf | lol |
| 07:18 | rangi | that sounds like me all right |
| 07:18 | kf | yes, that sounds like you |
| 07:18 | look at the bug | |
| 07:19 | rangi | yeah never got made/pushed |
| 07:19 | kf | yep |
| 07:19 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1598 |
| 07:19 | huginn | 04Bug 1598: enhancement, P3, ---, frederic, NEW , Make OPAC reviews a comments system (like Flickr, YouTube, etc) |
| 07:20 | kf | ah there it is |
| 07:20 | Joshua and I... ooold. | |
| 07:20 | rangi | heh yeah |
| 07:20 | i was working there then | |
| 07:21 | i resigned in march 2008 | |
| 07:21 | anyway, im gonna take this bug | |
| 07:21 | and make it say, allow unmoderated comments | |
| 07:22 | kf | makes sense |
| 07:23 | I think we don't allow comments without being logged in anyway right now | |
| 07:23 | so it would be a lot more work to implement that and I don't think people really want it | |
| 07:24 | rangi | yeah |
| 07:24 | im just doing unmoderated | |
| 07:24 | * kf | nods |
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| 07:35 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 07:36 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:36 | (good evening rangi) | |
| 07:43 | kf | morning paul_p |
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| 07:48 | rangi | hi sophie_m |
| 07:49 | sophie_m | hi rangi |
| 07:49 | kf | bonjour sophie_m |
| 07:49 | sophie_m | Guten Tag kf |
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| 07:51 | drojf1 | good morning #koha |
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| 07:53 | drojf1 | and again |
| 07:54 | crazy router | |
| 07:54 | kf | hi drojf |
| 07:54 | rangi | hi drojf1 |
| 07:54 | drojf1 | hi kf and rangi |
| 07:56 | @wunder berlin, germany | |
| 07:56 | huginn | drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 18.8°C (9:42 AM CEST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:56 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 07:56 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.7°C (9:55 AM CEST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:02 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 08:02 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 PM NZST on July 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:07 | rangi | drojf1++ #answering random questions on the mailing list |
| 08:07 | drojf1 | it's a nice way to get awake |
| 08:07 | rangi | heh |
| 08:08 | lamiette: you about? | |
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| 08:14 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 08:15 | rangi | hi Oak |
| 08:15 | Oak | hello rangi ! :) |
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| 08:38 | mtompset | Greetings, #koha. |
| 08:39 | kf | hi Oak |
| 08:39 | rangi | hi mtompset |
| 08:41 | lyon3++ | |
| 08:46 | mtompset | kf, how is it that you see Oak? |
| 08:46 | kf | hm? I only saw he said hi |
| 08:46 | mtompset | Hi, rangi. You were the one who signed off the patch on 8175, right? |
| 08:47 | I was just wondering what you might have thought regarding Ian's comments. It merits a revision to the patch, correct? | |
| 08:47 | rangi | i think bug 8348 is a duplicate of bug 8110 |
| 08:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8348 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , useDaysMode syspref does not apply |
| 08:47 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days | |
| 08:48 | rangi | yep, the patch has changed the functionality, a warn in the logs is better than a regression |
| 08:49 | mtompset | I've got a patch. I'll attach it. It doesn't break the functionality. |
| 08:49 | rangi | the new patch? |
| 08:49 | mtompset | Yep. |
| 08:49 | rangi | cool |
| 08:49 | Oak | hello kf :) how does the presentation look? |
| 08:49 | kf | oh, needs lots more work today |
| 08:49 | mtompset | a defined() with a =~ /\S/ |
| 08:50 | Oak | ah. hmm. |
| 08:50 | rangi | hmm |
| 08:50 | mtompset | because I'm pretty sure the output doesn't care about " " |
| 08:50 | a blank column is a blank column. | |
| 08:51 | if materials_flag was always one you'd have a blank column, which is what the check is hoping to avoid. | |
| 08:51 | rangi | you're scope creeping :) |
| 08:52 | originally it was silencing a warn, now you are changing behaviour | |
| 08:52 | it might be right, but its definitely scope creep | |
| 08:52 | mtompset | Well... |
| 08:52 | actually, it was checking if there was something in the materials field. | |
| 08:52 | rangi | so you should make sure you update the bug description to say that |
| 08:52 | mtompset | hence the ne ''. |
| 08:53 | rangi | yes |
| 08:53 | mtompset | But I do see what you are saying about scope creep. |
| 08:53 | rangi | now you are making it check there is something that is not whitespace |
| 08:53 | that isn't the same | |
| 08:53 | so you should say that | |
| 08:53 | like i say, its probably right, but its a change in what the bug was reported as | |
| 08:54 | mtompset | Okay, I'll make that tweak to the bug description. |
| 08:54 | rangi | cool thanks |
| 08:54 | mtompset | I reported the bug... am I not allowed to creep? ;) |
| 08:54 | Oak | mtompset++ |
| 08:54 | rangi | it just helps people test properly, and helps the release notes |
| 08:54 | mtompset | That's true. |
| 08:54 | rangi | you are, but not without updating the description |
| 08:54 | :) | |
| 08:54 | mtompset | Okay... off to update the description, then put up a new patch. |
| 08:54 | rangi | excellent |
| 08:54 | mtompset++ | |
| 08:55 | Oak | kf what is you presentation about? |
| 08:56 | mtompset | "Check for something in materials field fails in catalogue/details.pl"? |
| 08:56 | Oak | actually electricity will go out in 3 minutes..so I'll talk to you later .... |
| 08:56 | rangi | sounds good to me |
| 08:57 | mtompset | Hmmm... perhaps you could help me. |
| 08:58 | how to I revert the one file back to original one? | |
| 08:58 | ^to^do^ | |
| 08:58 | rangi | git checkout filename |
| 09:00 | mtompset | um.... further back... |
| 09:01 | revert to the one that wasn't on my machine initially | |
| 09:02 | rangi | you can checkout any commit |
| 09:02 | so find the commit from when you want to check it out | |
| 09:03 | mtompset | I'm new to git, so how do I do that? |
| 09:03 | rangi | git checkout -b mybranch commitid |
| 09:03 | then yuo will be on a new branch with the files all at that point | |
| 09:03 | mtompset | I already have a branch for bug_8175 |
| 09:04 | lamiette | rangi: you still about? |
| 09:04 | mtompset | I want to set it back to the not quite right version |
| 09:04 | lamiette | just saw your ping |
| 09:04 | rangi | how many commits ago is that mtompset ? |
| 09:05 | git reset HEAD^ if its one HEAD^2 etc | |
| 09:05 | lamiette: heya, just was talking to someone else who is at maharauk | |
| 09:05 | lamiette | ah yeah, Kevin? |
| 09:05 | rangi | yep |
| 09:06 | mtompset | one. |
| 09:06 | ah, okay. | |
| 09:07 | rangi | that will reset it, then you can do |
| 09:07 | git stash | |
| 09:07 | wahanui | git stash is for saving and restoring unstaged (and uncommited) changes. |
| 09:07 | rangi | that will stash away your changes (which we have just marked as uncommitted) |
| 09:07 | and you will be back with the file, but you can get your changes back | |
| 09:07 | by doing a git stash apply | |
| 09:07 | git rules | |
| 09:10 | we must remove all that no zebra stuff, its confusing another poor person | |
| 09:12 | * mtompset | nods, "That no zebra stuff was confusing me for a bit too." |
| 09:13 | mtj | i was thinking... should we rename the 'nozebra' syspref to 'nozebra (depreciated)' ? |
| 09:13 | ... as a temporary measure, before deleting it completely | |
| 09:14 | and... hi #koha :) | |
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| 09:15 | rangi | well we did that already, its been marked as deprecated in release notes since 3.4 |
| 09:15 | mtompset | Actually, can we display it as "Zebra (depreciated)"? I know that's backwards... but the thing that was confusing is use setting for NO ZEBRA. |
| 09:15 | rangi | i think we should kill it good now |
| 09:15 | druthb | o/ |
| 09:16 | rangi | it doesnt work, theres no point even having it :) |
| 09:16 | * mtompset | nods, "killing is better." |
| 09:16 | rangi | hi druthb ! |
| 09:16 | working late | |
| 09:16 | ? | |
| 09:16 | druthb | Naah. Up early-ish. |
| 09:16 | mtj | yep, but the 'nozebra' syspref option is still there right? to confuse peepz |
| 09:17 | heya druthb :) | |
| 09:17 | druthb | Hi, mtj! :D |
| 09:18 | mtj | ok, lets just kill the zebra/nozebra syspref, and have a big warning in the release-notes :) |
| 09:19 | * druthb | celebrates the impending doom of NoZebra. |
| 09:19 | rangi | yes its hard the warning for a while now, no one reads it, so best to just kill it |
| 09:19 | hard=had | |
| 09:21 | alex_a | All my multiple fields are grouped in one on staff or opac display using koha 3.8. has someone already encountered this problem? |
| 09:22 | it's the first time i see that ... | |
| 09:22 | rangi | hmm i havent encountered that yet |
| 09:24 | kf | alex_a: can you show a screenshot? |
| 09:24 | and which fields? | |
| 09:24 | wahanui | which fields are associated with authority records. |
| 09:25 | alex_a | kf: http://catalogue.migrationinsa[…]l?biblionumber=85 |
| 09:26 | look at the 606 field | |
| 09:26 | i have 2 fields 606 in marcxml | |
| 09:26 | kf | hm interesting |
| 09:26 | wahanui | interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad |
| 09:26 | alex_a | kf: all multivalued fields :( |
| 09:27 | kf | yeah, every time there is more than one of it? |
| 09:27 | alex_a | yes |
| 09:27 | all subfields are grouped in one fields | |
| 09:27 | field | |
| 09:27 | kf | itlooks wrong too |
| 09:27 | I am missing the plain marc view | |
| 09:27 | or does this not exist for UNIMARC? | |
| 09:28 | alex_a | plain marc view ? |
| 09:28 | you should have marc view | |
| 09:28 | no ? | |
| 09:28 | wahanui | hmmm... no is failing unit tests |
| 09:29 | kf | alex_a: I think in marc21 this is the "labelled marc view" |
| 09:29 | and there is a button to bring up the marc marc view :) | |
| 09:29 | that's 3.6.3 | |
| 09:30 | looks ok there :( | |
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| 09:31 | Herwig | Morning |
| 09:31 | kf | morning |
| 09:32 | hdl | kf was ok in 3.6 |
| 09:32 | as far as i know | |
| 09:32 | mtj | remove-nozebra-syspref++ |
| 09:33 | rangi | alex_a: is it ok in staff? or broken in staff and opac? |
| 09:33 | kf | looking in bywater's test installaton now |
| 09:34 | hdl | rangi: broken in both |
| 09:34 | Herwig | Hey all still stuck in finding a way to get the search engine running here ... if annyone got some tips ... i did what someone posted here yesterday but ... http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/10.JPG still in trouble ... but not giving up :P |
| 09:34 | rangi | and in master? |
| 09:34 | alex_a | rangi: broken in staff and opac |
| 09:34 | kf | http://model.bywatersolutions.[…]iblionumber=11363 |
| 09:34 | rangi | id suspect css changes then |
| 09:35 | hdl | 3.8, not tested yet on master. |
| 09:35 | kf | seems ok on the bywater test installation with marc21 |
| 09:35 | so maybe very recent or only unimarc? | |
| 09:35 | Koha 3.0801002 | |
| 09:35 | rangi | yeah i just tested master with marc21 |
| 09:35 | thats latest 3.8.x kf | |
| 09:36 | seems ok in master with marc21 .. so it might be specific to unimarc | |
| 09:37 | alex_a | rangi, kf: the result in staff: http://postimage.org/image/s7faahkiv/ |
| 09:37 | mtj | Herwig: your PERL5LIB line is incorrect - (it points to a non-existing dir?) |
| 09:37 | Herwig | no i dont now where to point it |
| 09:37 | rangi | alex_a: ouch, that doesnt look good at all |
| 09:39 | Herwig | time for googling that :P |
| 09:39 | mtj | Herwig: 'export PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib' is probably correct for you... |
| 09:39 | Herwig | ill try |
| 09:40 | kf | alex_a: no, doesn't look good - I downloaed the marc from opac, that looks correct, so it's the display |
| 09:40 | alex_a | yes, marc is correct. Not the display |
| 09:41 | Herwig | good news i got a listing and it said cleaning (i hope its good news) |
| 09:41 | mtompset | Herwig... are you talking about Zebra? |
| 09:41 | Herwig | yup |
| 09:42 | mtompset | Oops... too slow. Someone pointed out checking KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB already. :) |
| 09:42 | Herwig | fighting it with help from some peeps here |
| 09:42 | mtompset | I feel your pain. I was doing that for the last week. |
| 09:42 | Herwig | lol :) |
| 09:43 | mtompset | Are you running Debian? |
| 09:43 | Herwig | i'm used to linux at home but not the code type things so its all learning for me |
| 09:43 | ubuntu virtual server | |
| 09:43 | mtompset | Me too! YAY! |
| 09:43 | Herwig | :) |
| 09:43 | mtompset | I might be able to make some suggestions. |
| 09:44 | Herwig | omg i have results |
| 09:44 | :) :) :) | |
| 09:44 | mtompset | That's a good start. |
| 09:45 | Are you running a full reindex in a cron job? | |
| 09:45 | -b -a -r | |
| 09:45 | or just a updates? | |
| 09:45 | mtj | yay! /me hands Herwig a doppelbock |
| 09:46 | mtompset | -b -a -z? |
| 09:46 | Herwig | i think i do sec |
| 09:47 | 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null | |
| 09:47 | mtompset | that's fine... that's updates hourly on the first minute. |
| 09:48 | Herwig | thats the one in the cronjobs |
| 09:48 | * mtompset | nods. |
| 09:48 | Herwig | must i put it on 1 min ? |
| 09:48 | mtompset | no, you could change it as you want. |
| 09:49 | But I doubt you are adding things that you need to see every 5 minutes. | |
| 09:49 | Herwig | now the next part starts getting my old data in the system :OP |
| 09:49 | mtompset | Where is the old data coming from? |
| 09:50 | Herwig | thx peeps never got out off this without this help ill buy you all a beer |
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| 09:50 | mtompset | I'll just take a coke. ;) |
| 09:50 | Herwig | lol ok |
| 09:51 | vfernandes | Hi guys... can anyone explain to me how MARC21 items works? all my projects until today were using UNIMARC |
| 09:51 | slef | vfernandes: @marc 952 |
| 09:51 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 09:52 | rangi | mtompset: you want it running every 5 if you are circulating items |
| 09:52 | or your search will be telling people stuff is on the shelves when its not | |
| 09:52 | vfernandes | right... but how about itemtype? |
| 09:52 | mtompset | true... |
| 09:52 | slef | vfernandes: itemtype is 942$c, also on that page. |
| 09:52 | (or it should be) | |
| 09:52 | rangi | thats biblio level itemtype |
| 09:52 | slef | vfernandes: and 952$y |
| 09:52 | rangi | thats item level itemtype :) |
| 09:53 | mtompset | So, Herwig, change the 1 to */5 |
| 09:53 | That will run every 5 minutes. | |
| 09:53 | vfernandes | ok... but the MARC21 model doesn't have 952$y... |
| 09:53 | slef | rangi: is tajoli(?)'s synchronous zebraqueue daemon ready yet? It's been on my todo-sometime-when-I-get-time list |
| 09:53 | vfernandes: MARC21 model? | |
| 09:53 | rangi | slef: never tried it |
| 09:54 | and its fredericd's :) | |
| 09:54 | vfernandes | MARC21 biblio model in KOHA... cataloguing |
| 09:54 | alex_a | kf, rangi: it's a syspref |
| 09:54 | LabelMARCView | |
| 09:54 | slef | vfernandes: Administation: Koha-MARC links? |
| 09:54 | alex_a | just a syspref |
| 09:54 | vfernandes | MARC Bibliographic framework |
| 09:54 | alex_a | :-/ |
| 09:55 | rangi | alex_a: ahhh, how annoying! |
| 09:55 | vfernandes: yes it is, if its not in yours, there is something messed up in your install | |
| 09:55 | itype 952 y Koha item type | |
| 09:57 | vfernandes | damn it appears in mapping but not in the framework |
| 09:58 | it's possible to add it right? | |
| 09:59 | rangi | should be |
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| 10:00 | vfernandes | omg forget it... |
| 10:00 | the field has many subfields that creates another page | |
| 10:00 | the y subfield is in another page | |
| 10:02 | thanks ragi and slef... :D | |
| 10:02 | * rangi | |
| 10:03 | slef | vfernandes: thanks. You're welcome. |
| 10:04 | vfernandes | its the first time using MARC21 so there is many things different from UNIMARC |
| 10:06 | mtompset | I suppose that removing NoZebra means that the _AddBiblioNoZebra function will be removed from C4::Biblio.pm? |
| 10:07 | rangi | theres a patch to do just that already |
| 10:09 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=9903 | |
| 10:09 | attached to bug 7430 | |
| 10:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7430 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , ModZebra should not be in C4::Biblio |
| 10:09 | mtompset | In the midst of my confusion over Zebra/NoZebra... I actually modified some broken NoZebra code on our production machine. |
| 10:10 | I'm just doing some file compares to make sure that any changes I have done have made it into master, or if they were already fixed. | |
| 10:17 | What component is C4::Breeding.pm? | |
| 10:18 | mtj | mtompset: its an experimental module, to enable Koha to make babies |
| 10:19 | eythian | rangi: good to see Koha is printed on the top of the new round of Catalyst cycling gear :) |
| 10:21 | mtompset | ha ha ha... It triggered an error and I patched it, so I'd like to bug report and post a patch. |
| 10:21 | eythian | isn't that what handles marc staging, or am I wrong? |
| 10:21 | I think it's a weird library term | |
| 10:21 | mtj | yeah, thats it real usage |
| 10:21 | mtompset | perhaps... |
| 10:23 | mtj | afaik, its a frenglish translation |
| 10:23 | ask paul_p about it :p | |
| 10:23 | rangi | eythian: yep i might have to get some |
| 10:23 | mtompset | I did find something about 'module to add biblios to import_records...' |
| 10:23 | rangi | we could send some to slef :) |
| 10:23 | eythian | rangi: for your ... bike? |
| 10:23 | heh | |
| 10:24 | rangi | i own 3 bikes |
| 10:24 | mtompset | So, I guess staging/import is what I'm looking for. |
| 10:24 | 3 bikes?! | |
| 10:24 | rangi | i just dont often ride them :) |
| 10:24 | mtompset | Why would you need 3? |
| 10:24 | rangi | since i left uni |
| 10:25 | i have an old 10 speed, and 2 mountain bikes, one is a downhill one, which is pretty much useless for anything else, i should get some new tyres for the other one | |
| 10:25 | i know a lot of people with more than 3 | |
| 10:25 | slef | I have one on the west coast and have borrowed one on the east coast. |
| 10:26 | I'm still pondering getting a folder because mass transport here is so anti-bike. | |
| 10:26 | rangi | 3.2.4 ?? why on earth would someone be trying to install that |
| 10:27 | slef | Trains are often limited to 2 non-folders by policy, even though the trains vary between 0 and 8 cycle racks. Buses? hahahahaha |
| 10:27 | eythian | looks like they're following a really old tutorial |
| 10:27 | mtompset | Because they were running 2.X and 3.4 says it can't upgrade from it? |
| 10:27 | slef | Some of the buses in Scotland actually have racks, I hear. I'm not sure I blieve that. |
| 10:27 | mtompset | I'm guessing. |
| 10:27 | slef | rangi: do you use armoured tyres over there? |
| 10:27 | eythian | slef: the council in Wellington said the busses were going to get racks about 2017 or so, but I think there was enough of a stink that they're bringing it forward. |
| 10:28 | rangi | i honestly havent ridden on the road in years |
| 10:28 | eythian | I don't on the road, just regular tyres. |
| 10:28 | I just bike around the glass :) | |
| 10:28 | rangi | i rode every weekday for 7 years at uni, but never really have in wellington |
| 10:28 | slef | some of Wellington's roads didn't look much fun, narrow with too many cars going too fast |
| 10:29 | rangi | yeah most cyclists at catalyst have been collected at least once |
| 10:29 | i think eythian not yet | |
| 10:29 | eythian | the only (non-self-inflicted) accident I've had was hitting a pedestrian who walked into the road without looking. |
| 10:29 | She was lucky I wasn't a bus. | |
| 10:30 | I've learnt how to make cars do what I want them to do for the most part :) | |
| 10:32 | mtompset | Sounds manipulative. :P |
| 10:33 | slef | the only non-self-inflicted accident I remember is being rear-ended by another cyclist |
| 10:33 | usually I ride into stuff | |
| 10:33 | eythian | Really it boils down to "bike like a car would drive" :) |
| 10:33 | slef | cars, kerbs, ... |
| 10:33 | eythian | in slef's case, I'd also add "look forwards" |
| 10:34 | slef | I was looking forwards. The last failure I recall was expecting the car to pull away from the lights faster than it did. |
| 10:34 | kerbs tend to be the usual "failing to cross as a sharp enough angle" error | |
| 10:35 | oh actually the last failure was me crashing into my own bike while walking | |
| 10:35 | that took some doing | |
| 10:35 | (collected myself with a pedal while turning) | |
| 10:36 | * slef | replies with "sarge is dead. Upgrade" |
| 10:36 | slef | it must be oldies day! |
| 10:37 | rangi | earthquake |
| 10:37 | wahanui | i heard earthquake was on the news |
| 10:37 | eythian | I didn't feel it. |
| 10:37 | Although, I think if I did, half of the buildings here would have fallen down. | |
| 10:38 | kf_lunch | that's probably likely |
| 10:38 | rangi | i hope that was centered here |
| 10:38 | else somewhere is a mess | |
| 10:38 | kf | strong? |
| 10:39 | mtj | meh, felt quite biggish :/ |
| 10:39 | rangi | we dont usually feel them in this house |
| 10:39 | yep | |
| 10:39 | and long | |
| 10:39 | which usually means its far away | |
| 10:40 | eythian | http://beta.geonet.org.nz/ |
| 10:40 | 6.5 | |
| 10:41 | rangi | ouch |
| 10:41 | kf | :( |
| 10:41 | eythian | but, in Wellington |
| 10:41 | kf | but it's still labelled as moderate? |
| 10:41 | eythian | or nearby anyway |
| 10:41 | rangi | must have been deep |
| 10:41 | eythian | kf: yeah, it's not a 7 :) |
| 10:41 | 258 | |
| 10:41 | that's pretty deep | |
| 10:42 | rangi | yeah |
| 10:42 | thats what saved us | |
| 10:42 | eythian | also further away than the map makes it look like |
| 10:43 | rangi | yep |
| 10:43 | eythian | <lamiette> guys, we are listening to Kristina at this conf |
| 10:43 | <lamiette> middle of her talking "shit, earthquake *lots of noise - kristina making it to doorway*" | |
| 10:43 | rangi | yeah, it was decent |
| 10:43 | the dogs flipped out | |
| 10:44 | eythian | (the conf being in the UK, and kristina videoing in) |
| 10:44 | lamiette | we couldn't see her at this stage |
| 10:44 | just hear it | |
| 10:44 | the room then looked at me for confirmation it'd be okay ... | |
| 10:44 | kf | :( did she come back since? |
| 10:44 | lamiette | yeah, she's still talking |
| 10:45 | sounded seriously impressive | |
| 10:45 | rangi | yeah it was about 5 seconds |
| 10:46 | eythian | stuff.co.nz is pretty slow. |
| 10:46 | but has no news :) | |
| 10:47 | rangi | opunake |
| 10:47 | thats a long way away | |
| 10:47 | lucky only 4 people live ther | |
| 10:47 | e | |
| 10:48 | lamiette | geonet has it in the water? |
| 10:49 | rangi | yeah 60k west of opunake |
| 10:49 | so would have felt in in new plymouth | |
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| 10:50 | rangi | heya anitsirk :) |
| 10:50 | anitsirk | hi guys. i hope rangi is fine in his house. |
| 10:50 | rangi | i am |
| 10:50 | anitsirk | i had a bit of a shock as my building had never shaken that much before. but then i'd not have a 6.5 quake in welly before. |
| 10:50 | great to read that. | |
| 10:50 | are the kids ok? | |
| 10:51 | rangi | it was up near new plymouth |
| 10:51 | lamiette | anitsirk seriously made my heart leap listening to you |
| 10:51 | anitsirk | oh my. |
| 10:51 | rangi | and 257km down |
| 10:51 | they slept thru it .. nzers :-) | |
| 10:51 | kf | hi anitsirk |
| 10:51 | anitsirk | now they said it's 7.0 |
| 10:52 | rangi | ohhh shit |
| 10:53 | anitsirk | yeah. it was something. |
| 10:53 | and it was a long one | |
| 10:53 | slef | bah the email I replied to was a second thread by the posted of the 3.2.4 rangi mentioned earlier |
| 10:53 | multiposters-- | |
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| 10:55 | kf | davidnind++ #answering mailing list mails :) |
| 10:57 | rangi | http://geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/ kapow! |
| 10:58 | there's pretty much nowhere that didnt feel that | |
| 10:58 | davidnind | Thanks kf. I can generally only answer the simpler things to date.. |
| 11:01 | Was a quite a shake! Biggest one I've felt in Wellington for a while (maybe ever?). | |
| 11:01 | rangi | anitsirk: now you have to wait for the adrenalin to wear off before you can sleep? |
| 11:01 | davidnind: wasnt it just | |
| 11:02 | anitsirk | you bet. i'm uploading the presentation to slideshare. might as well get it done. |
| 11:03 | davidnind | Bit of a worry when you are in an older flat on stilts on the side of a hill! |
| 11:04 | rangi | ahh wellington ... we live on a convergence of fault lines, lets build stilt houses on hills!! |
| 11:04 | eythian | also, the governmetn :) |
| 11:05 | anitsirk | rangi: i can't report my "did you feel it" report as that geonet page is down. it seems to happen whenever there is a big quake |
| 11:05 | hi eythian. you missed the action | |
| 11:05 | eythian | so I heard :) |
| 11:06 | geonet has got a lot better in recent years, used to be you could tell how big a quake was by how long it took to respond. | |
| 11:06 | Now it's only for something really big that it slows down. | |
| 11:06 | rangi | yep |
| 11:08 | mtompset | shoot! I hate fixing something, and then realizing there is a secondary bug to fix as a result. |
| 11:09 | Is there a book or thing that would be entered into koha with the title '0' (without the quotes)? | |
| 11:11 | rangi | its certainly possible |
| 11:11 | * kf | nods |
| 11:12 | mtompset | What about an author's name? |
| 11:12 | Would anyone change their full legal name to '0'? | |
| 11:14 | eythian | yes |
| 11:14 | I'm sure it's happened | |
| 11:14 | kf | lol |
| 11:14 | maybe as a pseudonym | |
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| 11:16 | rangi | mtompset: trying to guess all the possible valid things is the path to madness, just check its non empty |
| 11:20 | kf | ok, someone with as uggestion for a nice special library's opac? :) |
| 11:21 | mtompset | it's the difference between if ($var) and if (defined($var)) |
| 11:21 | rangi | plantandfood? |
| 11:21 | davidnind | https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ |
| 11:21 | wahanui | rumour has it https://library.plantandfood.co.nz/ is a research library |
| 11:21 | kf | heh |
| 11:22 | almost all my examples are nz! | |
| 11:22 | pretty opacs | |
| 11:22 | mtompset | And rangi... I'm already Craaaaaazy! ;) |
| 11:24 | But when dealing with if ($var) you need to run through a couple cases. :) | |
| 11:26 | Isn't jcamins renaming a bunch of C4 libraries to Koha? | |
| 11:26 | rangi | ok, animals are all calm after that shake, time to hit the hay |
| 11:27 | mtompset | Have a good night. :) |
| 11:27 | jcamins | mtompset: I rewrote some things. |
| 11:27 | kf | good night |
| 11:27 | hope no more earthquake | |
| 11:27 | s | |
| 11:27 | mtompset | What about C4::Breeding? |
| 11:28 | jcamins | I won't be doing anything with it. |
| 11:28 | mtompset | Okay, so I should keep submitting my patches for it. :) |
| 11:28 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 11:28 | mtompset | bug 8349 |
| 11:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Attempted string substitution in C4::Breeding fails on undefined |
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| 11:32 | kf | hi libsysguy - how is the new job? |
| 11:32 | libsysguy | morning kf |
| 11:32 | its good, picking up lots of new processes | |
| 11:32 | you know, usual new job stuff :p | |
| 11:39 | interest in | |
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| 11:42 | mtompset | okay... when I 'git checkout master' |
| 11:42 | it tells me I am 13 commits behind. | |
| 11:43 | What does that mean? | |
| 11:44 | eythian | that means that your version of 'master' is 13 commits behind 'origin/master' |
| 11:44 | mtompset | And so how do I correct that? |
| 11:45 | jcamins | _This_ is where you do a git pull. |
| 11:45 | eythian | it depends what you want to do really |
| 11:45 | I never use my local master branch to avoid confusion. | |
| 11:45 | * jcamins | doesn't either. |
| 11:45 | * libsysguy | doesn't either |
| 11:45 | libsysguy | just to have something to go back to when i invariably screw up |
| 11:46 | mtompset | So you just git fetch and the create new bug branches without going back to master? |
| 11:46 | jcamins | Right. |
| 11:46 | eythian | I always create branches off of kc/master |
| 11:46 | jcamins | I check out kc/master when I want to see if a problem exists in master. |
| 11:46 | libsysguy | heh |
| 11:47 | eythian | yeah, but I deliberately do that in a detached head, so if I mess up and try to commit something, it tells me. |
| 11:47 | jcamins | eythian: someone else who has the git.k-c.org repo named kc? Cool! |
| 11:47 | mtompset | but if you are doing git pulls to master, then wouldn't that make 'master' the place to check if it exists in master? |
| 11:47 | jcamins | eythian: right. |
| 11:47 | eythian | I don't do git pulls to master |
| 11:47 | I always use kc/master | |
| 11:47 | (which may be origin/master in your case) | |
| 11:48 | I pretty much never use git pull tbh | |
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| 11:49 | * jcamins | has never used git pull. |
| 11:49 | jcamins | kf++ |
| 11:50 | eythian | I do if multiple people are working on a feature branch. |
| 11:50 | jcamins | eythian: oh, that makes sense. Not something that happens very often for me. |
| 11:50 | eythian | it's not too common for me either. |
| 11:51 | kf | lonely developers of koha? ;) |
| 11:51 | eythian | though, git pull == git fetch && git merge, I habitually do them separately. |
| 11:51 | jcamins | I do use git mere occasionally, when signing off on things. |
| 11:52 | * libsysguy | is waiting to see jcamins use the blame function in git |
| 11:53 | eythian | I don't do that for that. I just 'git bz apply' and then 'git commit --amend -s' |
| 11:53 | jcamins | That was supposed to be "merge" |
| 11:53 | eythian | libsysguy: svn has 'blame' and 'praise' as synonyms. |
| 11:53 | * jcamins | uses git blame all the time. |
| 11:53 | libsysguy | and that is why you shouldn't use svn... |
| 11:54 | jcamins | libsysguy: it's too forgiving? |
| 11:54 | libsysguy | among other things :p |
| 12:07 | mtompset | Okay... question. |
| 12:07 | wahanui | well, question is "What is the meaning of life, the universe and everything?" |
| 12:07 | mtompset | I found a bug... fixed it... and then found a secondary bug. |
| 12:07 | jcamins | mtompset++ # for fixing the bug |
| 12:07 | mtompset | I bug reported the fixed the first bug. |
| 12:08 | BUT... | |
| 12:08 | the secondary bug is tied in with the first bug. | |
| 12:08 | Take a look at C4::Breeding.pm | |
| 12:08 | Around line 182 | |
| 12:09 | You can't substitute on a null. | |
| 12:09 | So, I figured move the search into the if statement below. | |
| 12:09 | Then I looked at the if statement. | |
| 12:10 | And realized that 0,'0','',NULL, and everything other string cases don't work the same. | |
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| 12:10 | mtompset | Now, I figured since the first three wouldn't have a space to substitute there's no problem. |
| 12:11 | BUT... there's still that ugly set of if statements to fix. | |
| 12:11 | because there could be a title, author or isbn number '0' | |
| 12:12 | How do I mark the two bugs related in bugzilla? | |
| 12:12 | jcamins | There's a see also field. |
| 12:12 | You could also say the second bug depends on the first bug, if the first bug needs to be fixed before the second. | |
| 12:15 | mtompset | Well, I think I'll see also field them both, and let whoever pushes things forward figure out the best course of action. |
| 12:16 | jcamins | mtompset: you'll be responsible for rebasing if one of the patches is pushed before the other. |
| 12:17 | mtompset | Uh, what do you mean by that? |
| 12:17 | jcamins | If bug one's patch can only be applied *before* bug two, and someone signs off on bug two first because it is easier to test, the patch for bug one will no longer apply. |
| 12:18 | At that point, depending on the complexity of the patches, bug one will probably be marked "Does not apply" and you'll be asked to revise the patch so that it will apply. | |
| 12:19 | mtompset | If the push 2, before 1, then 1 is already solved. |
| 12:19 | if they push 1 before 2, the yes, I'll have to fix the patch up for 2. | |
| 12:19 | jcamins | In that case, I suggest you mark bug one a duplicate of bug two. |
| 12:19 | mtompset | Okay. |
| 12:19 | Did mean to enter a duplicate. :( | |
| 12:19 | Didn't... | |
| 12:19 | DOH! | |
| 12:21 | jcamins | They may not actually be duplicate bugs, but if the patch for the second can completely fix the first as well, better to just have one patch. |
| 12:21 | mtompset | true. |
| 12:32 | There bug 8349 and bug 8350 dealt with. | |
| 12:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8349 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Attempted string substitution in C4::Breeding fails on undefined |
| 12:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8350 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , $search = '0' or 0 will fail to affect SQL statement correctly in C4::Breeding | |
| 12:33 | kf | mtompset: I was right, eh? after the first patch it's easy :) |
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| 12:34 | mtompset | Yes, but I'm still struggling with git. |
| 12:37 | I'm just reconciling my bug fixes on our production system with what I have submitted to make sure they are all there. | |
| 12:42 | kf | :) |
| 12:42 | mtompset | Just a couple haven't made it. |
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| 13:12 | mtompset | Well, now I'm wondering if I was being over cautious in some of my patches. |
| 13:12 | I'm trying to set $v => 1 in a hash but have $v as undefined. | |
| 13:13 | Seems the hash reference of that passed to a subfunction is treated the same as '' | |
| 13:15 | eythian | I would expect it to also throw a warning. |
| 13:15 | mtompset | yes, but nothing fatal. |
| 13:16 | eythian | No, it won't. But avoiding warnings is good, there's already far too many of them. |
| 13:17 | mtompset | yes, but this fix I put into our system would have been AFTER the warning. |
| 13:17 | eythian | ah right |
| 13:17 | mtompset | So my fix is overkilled. |
| 13:18 | though, I suppose there could be an improvement in the code. | |
| 13:18 | $query .= " AND $key LIKE ?"; -- the $key length isn't checked. | |
| 13:19 | push @query_parameters, "%$where->{$key}%"; | |
| 13:19 | And neither is the value of the $where, which is the hashref that is passed to the function. | |
| 13:20 | or $where->{$key} | |
| 13:20 | I figure a if defined and 2 length checks would optimize the generation of SQL statements. | |
| 13:21 | But it's late... I'll think about that tomorrow. | |
| 13:21 | eythian | why length checks? |
| 13:24 | mtompset | Why would you do a "blah like %%"? |
| 13:24 | and how do you do a "where '' like 'string'"? | |
| 13:25 | if the key is 0 length, clearly there's no need to build that part of the SQL either. | |
| 13:29 | I was only pondering this code because my bug 8329 has a modification in the same module. | |
| 13:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8329 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , GetLostItems in C4::Items.pm has a SELECT * |
| 13:31 | mtompset | Have a good day (24 hour period), I'm off. |
| 13:31 | * mtompset | waves. |
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| 14:42 | eythian | <subfield code="d">2012-06-22</subfield> |
| 14:42 | <subfield code="c">STACK</subfield> | |
| 14:42 | I wonder why they bought something to put it straight on the stack | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | eythian: academic? |
| 14:43 | eythian | public |
| 14:43 | though a small one | |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Okay, that's weird. |
| 14:43 | SJeffery | why weird? |
| 14:43 | jcamins | Academics do it all the time. |
| 14:43 | eythian | I suppose it could be something they like to keep a copy of and something happened to the previous one. |
| 14:44 | jcamins | SJeffery: buying a new book for closed stacks in a public library? |
| 14:44 | Maybe it's a controversial book? | |
| 14:44 | eythian | Moby Dick? |
| 14:45 | jcamins | lol |
| 14:45 | Probably not. | |
| 14:45 | SJeffery | It does have a swear word in the title...that could upset some people... |
| 14:46 | eythian | Not here, i think :) |
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| 14:58 | wizzyrea | for those of you who think kansas is barren wasteland: http://instagram.com/p/MmwBejtAru/ |
| 14:59 | eythian | sure, but that's what it looked like in the 70's! |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | haha |
| 15:00 | oh eythian your snark is priceless :) | |
| 15:00 | eythian | I do practice in front of a mirror to perfect it, you know. |
| 15:00 | kf | lol |
| 15:01 | about the book, maybe they don't expect many loans? | |
| 15:01 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:01 | kf | I mean... moby dick, quite a lot pages |
| 15:01 | relish | Bluevaganza? Sounds like a Jane Fonda word. https://sparklinggnome.wordpress.com (link from http://instagram.com/p/MmwBejtAru) |
| 15:04 | wizzyrea | lol oy. |
| 15:04 | (that's one of my librarians, if you can imagine) | |
| 15:04 | (she's cool though) | |
| 15:04 | (despite the "bluevaganza") | |
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| 15:20 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 15:20 | can anyone recognise this? | |
| 15:20 | "Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Items.pm line 1367." | |
| 15:20 | (.deb 3.8.x install) | |
| 15:20 | eythian | what do you do right before it happens? |
| 15:21 | tcohen | i'm in the circulation log report |
| 15:21 | clicking on an item | |
| 15:22 | looks like there is some linkage data missing? | |
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| 15:24 | eythian | could be. |
| 15:24 | khall | bug 8352 ready for signoff if anyone is interested |
| 15:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Add automatic printing of 'hold to pull' notices |
| 15:25 | tcohen | i don't know why there should be that info on the record |
| 15:31 | gaetan_B | bye #koha ! |
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| 15:47 | tcohen | are there some sanity checks for koha DB? missing sysprefs, unused sysprefs, invalid data? |
| 15:48 | i need to find out the cause of this error or i'll be axed! | |
| 15:51 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 15:51 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
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| 15:54 | Rakesh | hi |
| 15:55 | hdl | tcohen: you have some checksysprefs t files. |
| 15:55 | in order to know which sysprefs are missing. | |
| 15:56 | Rakesh | hi any 1 there |
| 15:56 | tcohen | thanks hdl |
| 15:56 | jcamins | tcohen: unfortunately, there is no script to tell you if you are lacking any sysprefs in your database. |
| 15:56 | tcohen | its a 3.1.x -> 3.8.x upgrade |
| 15:56 | and i'm having trouble when requesting items info | |
| 15:56 | hdl | And if you are trying to see the sanity for DB structure, julian developped something but not ported to community. |
| 15:57 | tcohen | (trying to circulate, from old circulation logs, etc) |
| 15:57 | jcamins | tcohen: and you didn't have this problem on your test server? |
| 15:57 | Rakesh | i have installed all the perl modules |
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| 15:57 | tcohen | i'm on the test server right now |
| 15:57 | Rakesh | and in the koha directory |
| 15:57 | tcohen | my problem is that i'm running out of time |
| 15:58 | jcamins | Rakesh: you should tell us what your question is. |
| 15:58 | kf | tcohen: what exactly is your problem? |
| 15:58 | sorry if I missed the description | |
| 15:58 | hdl | jcamins: there is. check_sysprefs.pl in misc ? |
| 15:58 | jcamins | hdl: really? |
| 15:58 | Awesome! | |
| 15:58 | * jcamins | never heard of that. |
| 15:58 | tcohen | kf: "Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2965." |
| 15:58 | kf | ok |
| 15:58 | you are updating from 3.1 to 3.8? | |
| 15:59 | * kf | read back |
| 15:59 | jcamins | tcohen: that's not the error message you pasted earlier. |
| 15:59 | kf | have you run the script to remove items from the marc xml? |
| 15:59 | jcamins | hdl++ |
| 15:59 | tcohen | jcamins: you're right! |
| 15:59 | hdl | and in master biblibre, in xt files, you can find syspref.t and check_syspref.t |
| 16:00 | tcohen | jcamins: unfortunately, i have both... |
| 16:00 | jcamins | hdl: we have the syspref tests, but they only check the codebase, not the database. |
| 16:00 | Rakesh | i have run the command to check that i have installled all the perl modules |
| 16:00 | hdl | those two in our repository are doing that. |
| 16:01 | Rakesh | i ran the to check that everything is installed and i havwe instaled everything but still it says that i have not completed the installation of modules |
| 16:01 | jcamins | Ah, very cool! |
| 16:01 | hdl | if you feel lucky, test, and if you enjoy it share that with the community. |
| 16:02 | jcamins | hdl: "lucky"? ;) |
| 16:03 | hdl | jcamins: we have been using that for quite a number of things now. |
| 16:03 | so works. | |
| 16:03 | jcamins | hdl: so, no need for luck. |
| 16:03 | hdl | but could need some more documentation to help the user. |
| 16:04 | libsysguy | oleonard has been working on jqueryui integration right? |
| 16:04 | wizzyrea | yes |
| 16:04 | hdl | there is a branch on his repo about that. |
| 16:04 | jcamins | libsysguy: yes, under no circumstances should you use YUI for something new. |
| 16:04 | libsysguy | is that implemented? |
| 16:04 | jcamins | Parts. |
| 16:04 | He's doing it one control at a time. | |
| 16:04 | Rakesh | hey please i ve a serious issue' |
| 16:05 | libsysguy | thanks jcamins, hdl, and wizzyrea |
| 16:05 | jcamins | libsysguy: which control are you working with? |
| 16:05 | libsysguy | sco |
| 16:05 | eythian | Rakesh: you're going to have to provide more info. |
| 16:05 | libsysguy | low on the todem i would imagine |
| 16:06 | eythian | versions of things, for example. |
| 16:06 | jcamins | libsysguy: I mean, which JQueryUI control. |
| 16:06 | tcohen | kf: i've ran that script, but running it again |
| 16:06 | libsysguy | oh lol |
| 16:06 | dialog | |
| 16:06 | Rakesh | see i have installed all the perl dependencies |
| 16:06 | tcohen | this time not using the koha-upgrade-to-3.4 wrapper but the script |
| 16:06 | jcamins | libsysguy: oleonard is changing every instance of each control he works on. |
| 16:06 | eythian | copy-paste what you're seeing into a paste bin, stuff like that. |
| 16:06 | jcamins | Rakesh: what version of Koha are you using? |
| 16:06 | libsysguy | jcamins, isn't that going to mess with updating it? |
| 16:06 | jcamins | What do you mean? |
| 16:07 | libsysguy | maybe im misunderstanding...he is modifying the core of the ui modules? |
| 16:07 | jcamins | No. |
| 16:07 | libsysguy | oh |
| 16:07 | jcamins | He's changing from YUI autocomplete to JQueryUI autocomplete. |
| 16:07 | Rakesh | and i ran the command ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m to check that everything installed |
| 16:07 | libsysguy | ahhh ok i understand |
| 16:08 | Rakesh | it gave me 8 dependencies to install |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | ok so, tcohen - you are trying to click through to an item from the log, and it's giving the error? |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Rakesh: what version of Koha do you have? |
| 16:08 | Rakesh | and i install all 8 via apt-get |
| 16:08 | tcohen | wizzyrea: right |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Rakesh: so far, you have told us NOTHING that we can use to troubleshoot your problem. |
| 16:08 | Rakesh | i have 3.8,1 |
| 16:08 | jcamins | Details are important. |
| 16:08 | Copy the output you're seeing into paste.koha-community.org. | |
| 16:08 | tcohen | and a similar one in circulation.pl |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | tcohen: can you get through to items at all? |
| 16:09 | Rakesh | and still it gives me the error that two dependencies are not installed |
| 16:09 | tcohen | wizzyrea: don't get it |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | i mean, can you search for a title, click on the detail, and see the items? |
| 16:09 | can you click on items and edit them? | |
| 16:09 | eythian | Rakesh: maybe you installed the wrong things. But we don't know because you're not telling us exactly what it says. |
| 16:09 | wizzyrea | from the catalog detail |
| 16:09 | Rakesh | ya it tells that |
| 16:10 | Libget:Stem:Snowball is nott installed | |
| 16:10 | but i checked it through cpan that it is installed | |
| 16:10 | and Graphics: magick also gives the same error | |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | Rakesh: try apt-get install liblingua-stem-snowball-perl |
| 16:10 | eythian | what does apt-cache policy liblingua-stem-snowball-perl say? |
| 16:11 | Rakesh: ^ | |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 16:11 | Rakesh | it says that it is to the newest version |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | graphics magick is always a problem. You can safely ignore it |
| 16:11 | for now | |
| 16:12 | Rakesh | kk |
| 16:12 | and for the package Lingua:Stem:Snowball? | |
| 16:12 | eythian | Rakesh: and what does it say is the latet version? |
| 16:14 | Rakesh | yes thesnowball package also says that it is installed but the command ./koha_perl_deps.pl -m shows that it is not installed' |
| 16:14 | :s | |
| 16:14 | * drojf | offers general afternoon popcorn to everybody |
| 16:15 | jcamins | drojf: lol |
| 16:15 | Thanks. | |
| 16:15 | eythian | Rakesh: run this command: perl -MLingua::Stem::Snowball -e 'print "OK\n";' |
| 16:16 | and see what it says | |
| 16:16 | Rakesh | in cpan? |
| 16:16 | eythian | no, on the command line |
| 16:16 | jcamins | drojf: I hope it's kettle corn. |
| 16:17 | Rakesh | kk let me check |
| 16:17 | eythian | also, when you ran the apt-cache policy command, what version did it say? |
| 16:17 | Rakesh | i didnt run apt-cache policy command? |
| 16:18 | eythian | Rakesh: then why did you answer when I told you to run it before? |
| 16:18 | liblingua-stem-snowball-perl | |
| 16:18 | <eythian> what does apt-cache policy liblingua-stem-snowball-perl say? | |
| 16:18 | <Rakesh> it says that it is to the newest version | |
| 16:18 | drojf | lol |
| 16:18 | Rakesh | o sorry |
| 16:18 | very sory | |
| 16:18 | drojf | jcamins: a huge kettle of kettle corn ;) |
| 16:19 | jcamins | drojf: awesome! Shari loves kettle corn. |
| 16:19 | eythian | gar, my circulation merging script forgot to take into account returns between the file versions. |
| 16:19 | Drat. | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | eythian: uh-oh. |
| 16:20 | eythian | yeah. |
| 16:20 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:20 | eythian | fortunately, everyone is asleep now |
| 16:20 | jcamins | This is an *awesome* script. |
| 16:20 | eythian | and the script is (in theory) idempotent |
| 16:20 | so I just need to implement handling of returns and it should work. | |
| 16:21 | * jcamins | hopes you're right about it being idempotent. :P |
| 16:22 | eythian | me too |
| 16:22 | Rakesh | perl -MLingua::Stem::Snowball -e 'print "OK\n";' says the following |
| 16:23 | eythian | that you're taking so long to reply leads me to think that it's not saying "OK" |
| 16:26 | Rakesh | cant load 'usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Lingua/Stem/Snowball/Snowball.so' for the module Lingua::Stem::Snowball: usr/local/lib/perl5.14.2/auto/Lingua/stem/snowball/Snowball.so: wrong ELF class: wrong ELF class:ELFCLASS32 at /usr/lib/perl/5.14/Dynaloader.pm line 184 |
| 16:26 | at -e lne0 | |
| 16:26 | srry at -e line 0 | |
| 16:27 | compilation failed in require | |
| 16:27 | Begin failed--compilation aborted | |
| 16:27 | eythian | you have installed the wrong version of the package. |
| 16:27 | you have installed the 32 bit version on a 64 bit machine. | |
| 16:27 | Rakesh | so how to correct it |
| 16:27 | eythian | if you had only ran the apt-cache policy command, it probably would have said as much |
| 16:28 | Rakesh | i also think that can u please give me the correct command via apt-get to install a64 bit version of this |
| 16:28 | eythian | probably remove that package and install the proper one. |
| 16:28 | I don't know how you'd install the 32-bit version to be honest. | |
| 16:28 | What debian version are you using? | |
| 16:28 | Rakesh | okk so u think that the package version is wrong |
| 16:29 | eythian | I don't know, you still haven't told me what the apt-cache policy command says |
| 16:29 | Rakesh | i am ubuntu server 12.04 64 bit |
| 16:29 | ya i will give u in detail | |
| 16:29 | what it said | |
| 16:30 | it says that | |
| 16:31 | installed: 0.952-2build2 | |
| 16:31 | Candidate 0.952-2build2 | |
| 16:31 | Version table | |
| 16:32 | *** 0.952-2build2 0 | |
| 16:32 | eythian | well that's wierd |
| 16:32 | because the path: usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Lingua/Stem/Snowball/Snowball.so | |
| 16:32 | suggest that you have installed it twice,. | |
| 16:32 | the local one is probably installed through CPAN | |
| 16:32 | that was a bad idea. | |
| 16:32 | Rakesh | 500 http://in.archive.ubutntu.com/[…]/precise/universe amd64 packages |
| 16:33 | eythian | you'll have to remove all the things you installed through CPAN and do it properly. |
| 16:33 | Rakesh | 100 var/lib/dpkg/ststus |
| 16:33 | eythian | (also, you should probably copy-paste, it'll make life so much easier) |
| 16:33 | * drojf | giggles |
| 16:34 | Rakesh | actually i have no gui running on it so how i can copy paste |
| 16:34 | eythian | ssh into it? |
| 16:34 | Rakesh | so should i remove the package and reinstalll it |
| 16:34 | eythian | (i'm not going to explain how to do that, ask your systems administrator) |
| 16:34 | jcamins | This is why the instructions say very clearly to only use Debian packages and not CPAN for those packages that are available. |
| 16:34 | eythian | no, you need to remove it from however it got installed in /usr/local |
| 16:34 | I think you have used CPAN and made everything really confused. | |
| 16:34 | Rakesh | kk |
| 16:34 | drojf | also, rangi said it 10 hours ago. ten times at least |
| 16:34 | jcamins | Rakesh: you have to uninstall it via CPAN. You will need to figure out how to do that. |
| 16:34 | drojf | just sayin' |
| 16:35 | Rakesh | actually i dont no the command and how to uninstall |
| 16:35 | eythian | if only someone were to set up a handy package repository containing everything you need... |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Rakesh: you'll have to figure it out, then. |
| 16:35 | Rakesh | kk |
| 16:35 | drojf | eythian: that would be witchcraft |
| 16:35 | Rakesh | please guide how to uninstall |
| 16:36 | eythian | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uninstalling+through+cpan <-- Rakesh |
| 16:37 | jcamins | Bug 8353 is pretty darn cool. |
| 16:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8353 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Add test to compare sysprefs in db to syspref.sql |
| 16:37 | eythian | ohh nice |
| 16:37 | jcamins | Of course, I assigned it to me rather than the author of the patch... |
| 16:37 | * jcamins | fixes it. |
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| 16:40 | * eythian | thinks lmgtfy has got a lot less sarcastic over the years. |
| 16:41 | drojf | heh |
| 16:41 | jcamins | I don't know, it's still pretty snarky and wonderful. :) |
| 16:42 | * jcamins | is a big fan of the mouse cursor animation |
| 16:42 | drojf | but people you send there just see it as a service now |
| 16:42 | eythian | I'm sure the text used to be a bit more ... bitey. |
| 16:42 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 16:43 | eythian | ahh |
| 16:43 | I'm confusing it with jfgi | |
| 16:43 | kf | bye all :) |
| 16:43 | drojf | lol |
| 16:43 | Rakesh | well eythian |
| 16:43 | drojf | bye kf |
| 16:43 | Rakesh | i saw the guide to uninstall' |
| 16:43 | and it says to install cpanplus | |
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| 16:44 | Rakesh | first and i would like to tell u |
| 16:44 | jcamins | Then you should do that. This is why you should follow instructions. |
| 16:44 | Much easier to do it right the first time. :) | |
| 16:44 | eythian | hrm, I don't think I know what cpanplus is |
| 16:44 | Rakesh | yes |
| 16:45 | jcamins | eythian: ooh, I like jfgi. |
| 16:45 | Rakesh | but while installing it also it says make would not test and install |
| 16:45 | eythian | http://search.cpan.org/~bingos[…]0/lib/CPANPLUS.pm <-- interesting, wonder how that differs from regular cpan |
| 16:45 | jcamins | You should do some research online to find out if that is a problem. |
| 16:46 | Rakesh | ya |
| 16:46 | but theres something | |
| 16:47 | actually i had installled koha on ubuntu 11.10 desktop | |
| 16:47 | and it worked like a charm | |
| 16:47 | with no errors | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | You probably followed the instructions that time. |
| 16:47 | Rakesh | and when i tried it to install it on 12.04 64 bit server it gives the following errors |
| 16:47 | eythian | hmm |
| 16:48 | Rakesh | would the new version be the problem |
| 16:48 | no i followed the instructions | |
| 16:48 | eythian | My best guess is that something you did the first time doesn't work on 64-bit |
| 16:48 | but I use the apt methods for everything, so I'm not sure what it would be. | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | You used CPAN so you demonstrably did *not* follow the instructions this time. |
| 16:48 | Rakesh | so what should i do now install a 32-bit server |
| 16:48 | eythian | no, that would be unnecessary |
| 16:49 | Rakesh | kk |
| 16:49 | jcamins | If you would prefer a 32-bit server, sure. However, I use 64-bit only. I just follow the instructions when installing. |
| 16:49 | Rakesh | so what should i do now |
| 16:49 | eythian | I'd move the /usr/local/lib/perl out of the way |
| 16:49 | I think that's what's causing the problems | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | You need to uninstall everything you installed with CPAN, and reinstall things correctly, using apt. |
| 16:49 | Rakesh | can u give me the link from where u read to install |
| 16:49 | jcamins | installing koha? |
| 16:49 | wahanui | well, installing koha is one thing. Doing development with it is something else. |
| 16:49 | eythian | I suspect that with that gone, perl will use the regular versions which should work better. |
| 16:49 | Rakesh | kk and how to do that' |
| 16:50 | jcamins | koha on debian? |
| 16:50 | wahanui | rumour has it koha on debian is installed and http://10.16.18.71:8080/ works fine. Now how do I configure the OPAC? entering IP address of the pc in Oak's local network just returns: "It works! This is the default web page for this server." |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Installing Koha on debian? |
| 16:50 | Koha 3.8 on Debian? | |
| 16:50 | Rakesh | yes |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 16:50 | eythian | package installation? |
| 16:50 | damn | |
| 16:50 | I was sure it was in there | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 16:50 | ^^ that page | |
| 16:50 | wahanui | i think ^^ that page is *great* |
| 16:51 | eythian | no wahanui, koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 16:51 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 16:51 | drojf | wahanui botsnack beer |
| 16:51 | wahanui | thanks drojf :) |
| 16:51 | eythian | no wahanui, koha on debian is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 16:51 | wahanui | okay, eythian. |
| 16:51 | Rakesh | please give me the guide page |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Rakesh: I just did. |
| 16:51 | eythian | Rakesh: dude, it's been posted 3 time in the past minute |
| 16:51 | Rakesh | to install it on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server |
| 16:52 | jcamins | That page we just posted. |
| 16:52 | Three times. | |
| 16:52 | Rakesh | but thats for debian |
| 16:52 | jcamins | It works the same. |
| 16:52 | eythian | debian is very similar to Ubuntu |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Just follow the instructions. |
| 16:52 | Rakesh | okk |
| 16:52 | i will try that' | |
| 16:52 | * eythian | needs to make the packages happier with Ubuntu and do more testing on it really. |
| 16:53 | jcamins | paul_p: signed off on your follow-up for bug 8202. |
| 16:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8202 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Add authorities to export tool |
| 16:53 | Rakesh | okk i must try that and then report u al |
| 16:53 | thnx guys | |
| 16:53 | bye fir now | |
| 16:54 | srry | |
| 16:54 | eythian | Rakesh: this way is a lot easier |
| 16:54 | Rakesh | bye for now |
| 16:54 | okk | |
| 16:54 | bii | |
| 16:54 | eythian | but, still remove the perl stuff in /usr/local |
| 16:54 | Rakesh | and thnx again |
| 16:54 | okk | |
| 16:54 | i think i must do a clean install of the server again | |
| 16:54 | that would be the best | |
| 16:54 | isnt it? | |
| 16:55 | eythian | yeah |
| 16:55 | if you can, install debain | |
| 16:55 | *debian | |
| 16:55 | it's more likely to work well | |
| 16:55 | but ubuntu should be mostly OK too. | |
| 16:57 | jcamins | coding guidelines? |
| 16:57 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 16:57 | Rakesh | mostly ok ? :) |
| 16:57 | please tell me the final bro | |
| 16:57 | does it work | |
| 16:57 | eythian | I haven't tested it, so I can't confirm. |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Rakesh: no one here uses Koha on Ubuntu. |
| 16:57 | eythian | I use it on Debian. |
| 16:58 | Rakesh | okk |
| 16:58 | so debian has a gui? | |
| 16:58 | eythian | if you install it, yeah |
| 16:58 | but it's not the best idea to put a gui on a server. | |
| 16:58 | Rakesh | ya i think so |
| 16:59 | does debian has a server/ | |
| 16:59 | jcamins | A "server" is a computer that serves things to the internet. Debian is often used for servers. Ubuntu is too, sometimes. |
| 17:00 | Koha runs on a server. | |
| 17:00 | That server can run Debian or Ubuntu. | |
| 17:00 | Most people use Debian. | |
| 17:00 | Rakesh | ya |
| 17:01 | so please give me the link to download debian server | |
| 17:01 | eythian | Really? |
| 17:01 | Rakesh | just like ubuntu server is another distro |
| 17:01 | eythian | I mean, if you were to type "debian" into a browser, you'd find the download link immediately |
| 17:02 | You spent longer asking for the link than it would take you to find it. | |
| 17:02 | Rakesh | oh just joking bro |
| 17:02 | eythian | ... |
| 17:02 | Rakesh | i was just asking u that does trdebian has a server distro just like ubuntu has ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server |
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| 17:02 | drojf | all the time? |
| 17:03 | eythian | not really. |
| 17:03 | sv joined #koha | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | drojf: All the time? |
| 17:04 | sv | our library has koha 2.0.0 can we upgrade to 3.04.0 |
| 17:05 | jcamins | sv: the short answer is "probably," the long answer is "as far as I know," and the detailed answer is "I have no idea how." :) |
| 17:05 | drojf | jcamins: just joking |
| 17:05 | eythian | sv: yes, though you know that koha 3.08 is out right? |
| 17:05 | sv: it is possible, it will take time though, it's the easiest thing in the world. | |
| 17:05 | senator | Rakesh: ubuntu chooses to make specialized distros for servers and desktops separately. debian (and many other distros) make no such distinction. debian is just debian. |
| 17:06 | sv | k. tell me upgradation linux commands |
| 17:06 | eythian | err |
| 17:06 | jcamins | I think eythian means "not the easiest thing in the world." |
| 17:06 | eythian | when I said... |
| 17:06 | yeah, that | |
| 17:06 | wahanui | yeah, that is cool - a way to enhance the OPAC without bloating Koha... |
| 17:06 | * eythian | also just forgot that arrays start at 0, it's one of those days. |
| 17:07 | jcamins | eythian: not if you change the array start index magic constant. |
| 17:07 | eythian | jcamins: I would not do that. |
| 17:07 | sv: there are no upgradation linux commands. It's basically a migration. | |
| 17:07 | drojf | you can do that? |
| 17:07 | eythian | drojf: you can |
| 17:07 | jcamins | drojf: yes, don't. |
| 17:07 | eythian | drojf: $[ |
| 17:08 | drojf | sounds like a great idea to drive people crazy. and by people i mean myself, after forgetting about it |
| 17:08 | sv | ok. tell me the migration procedure |
| 17:08 | eythian | mostly used in the old days of emulating awk, which is 1-indexed. |
| 17:08 | jcamins | I wonder if you could do $[ = -1. :D |
| 17:09 | drojf | hm my internet connection is really bad today. i try another reconnect |
| 17:09 | jcamins | sv: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Upgrading_2.2 |
| 17:09 | eythian | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=upgrading+koha+from+2.2 <-- sv |
| 17:09 | jcamins | But be aware that a lot of those instructions are out of date. |
| 17:10 | In particular, you cannot use NoZebra. | |
| 17:10 | You *must* use Zebra. | |
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| 17:17 | drojf | well, slow sucky internet > no internet |
| 17:18 | eythian | I hate to say this, but I've found the internet in the UK to be worse than what I have at home. |
| 17:18 | Though, my sample size is small here. | |
| 17:18 | and I am on pretty good internet at home. | |
| 17:23 | drojf | talking of slow… |
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| 17:27 | eythian | haha wut? |
| 17:28 | drojf | http://www.realsnailmail.net/ delivered by an actual snail ;) |
| 17:30 | jcamins | drojf: I wouldn't count on it. |
| 17:32 | drojf | i don't |
| 17:37 | eythian | "remember to pick up some milk" |
| 17:41 | drojf | :D |
| 17:48 | eythian | seriously, if anyone tells you they sent you a 2 week old data file, just put your hands up and back away slowly. |
| 17:48 | It's a nightmare to merge in. | |
| 17:48 | I _think_ I have the last of the kinks out. | |
| 17:49 | two days of scripting later. | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | eythian: if it were their fault, I'd tell them they had to choose between the two weeks of missing data and the data since go-live. |
| 17:49 | drojf | ouch |
| 17:49 | eythian | in hindsight, me too. |
| 17:49 | on the other hand, I know how to do it now :) | |
| 17:50 | drojf | we will all send you our old data files :) |
| 17:50 | eythian | I shall charge a hefty amount. |
| 17:51 | drojf | i'll take your irc help for free then. kindly guide step by step, video tutorial preferred :D |
| 17:52 | nah i'll just go with answer number two, "i'm sorry, it's just not possible" | |
| 17:53 | :D | |
| 17:53 | eythian | sure. run this, and see what happens: http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]hb=waimate_import |
| 17:53 | jcamins: heh | |
| 17:59 | jcamins | eythian: shouldn't you be off at the pub by now? |
| 18:00 | eythian | jcamins: I had things to fix, but I just ran it, it seems happy, and in about 5 minutes I shall be going that way. |
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| 18:10 | datadoctor | What do y'all think about installing on Debian Squeeze vs. Ubuntu 12 Server? |
| 18:10 | jcamins | Squeeze. |
| 18:10 | wahanui | hmmm... squeeze is 3.2.x |
| 18:10 | jcamins | No question. |
| 18:10 | * jcamins | hated Ubuntu 12.04. |
| 18:11 | datadoctor | Thanks for the good advice jcamins! |
| 18:12 | jcamins | datadoctor: I don't know it's good advice, but I certainly feel strongly about it. ;) |
| 18:13 | datadoctor | I will take your word for it. We are currently running on Debian Squeeze, but had some problems with VMWare tools on a test install. |
| 18:13 | Thought about trying an alternative, but seeing as you had problems, I'll stick with what I know. | |
| 18:13 | drojf | +1 for debian |
| 18:13 | jcamins | VMWare should work fine on Debian, I'd think. |
| 18:14 | datadoctor | Thanks drojf, and also for the Snails! |
| 18:14 | drojf | heh |
| 18:14 | datadoctor | They were delicious! :D |
| 18:15 | Those snails are really good at spam filtering as well! | |
| 18:16 | drojf | i'm not sure about that |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | so im working on bug 8033, and just realized that you need permissions to print slips |
| 18:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8033 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, elliott, In Discussion , add print receipt option to Koha self-check |
| 18:17 | jcamins | eythian: go to a pub, but first tell me if I saw something about you moving forward on the koha-i18n-es-ES (etc.) packages. |
| 18:17 | libsysguy: yes, that would be good. | |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | that feature or retaining permissions |
| 18:17 | eythian | jcamins: I realised I need to book some things for the weekend. |
| 18:17 | I haven't done any moving on them, they are still "almost there" | |
| 18:18 | jcamins | Maybe I should pick those up. |
| 18:20 | eythian | by all means :) |
| 18:20 | libsysguy | jcamins did you mean it would be good to retain the permissions or it would be a good feature |
| 18:21 | jcamins | libsysguy: keeping it. |
| 18:22 | libsysguy | do you know of a permission to 'self-checkout' |
| 18:22 | i thought everyone could do that | |
| 18:22 | jcamins | libsysguy: so that if a library does not want one of their SCO machines printing receipts, it won't. |
| 18:22 | I think it's just circulate, isn't it? | |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | i am set as a standard patron on my install and i can SCO |
| 18:23 | i guess i could make a new 'permission' and set it to true if print slips are enabled as a syspref | |
| 18:23 | for sco** | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | Oh, you already added a slip syspref? |
| 18:24 | libsysguy | oh no i didn't |
| 18:24 | jcamins | I guess that might be okay. |
| 18:24 | libsysguy | i was trying to do it the lazy way and just add it for all sco's |
| 18:24 | just a dialog | |
| 18:24 | print or no thanks | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 18:25 | libsysguy | the only way that is a problem is url hijacks |
| 18:25 | if someone types in a borrowernumber then they can get a print out of all the checkouts for that patron | |
| 18:25 | which is obviously a problem | |
| 18:26 | but im not sure how to get around with the way printing is set up | |
| 18:26 | jcamins | Yeah, that would be a problem. |
| 18:27 | libsysguy | maybe i can just check to see if i came from an sco url |
| 18:28 | jcamins | You can still spoof referer headers. |
| 18:28 | libsysguy | true |
| 18:28 | * libsysguy | scratches head |
| 18:29 | jcamins | Wouldn't it be better to confirm that the specified patron did the self checkout? |
| 18:29 | libsysguy: wait, you know that the user doing SCO != user to whom books are being checked out, right? | |
| 18:29 | There's a syspref that controls it. | |
| 18:30 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 18:30 | but you are still basically programming in a hole right? | |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Oh, the referer thing is definitely an issue. |
| 18:31 | I was going back to the permissions. | |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | oh ok |
| 18:32 | well this is also interesting the way get_template_and_user is set up | |
| 18:32 | jcamins | Does it do some sort of bind? |
| 18:32 | * jcamins | has never really looked at the code. |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | it passes opac/intranet |
| 18:32 | to force one or the other | |
| 18:33 | then basically a set of flags | |
| 18:34 | auth kind of looks like a dinosaur | |
| 18:35 | jcamins | It really is. |
| 18:35 | libsysguy | *smh* |
| 18:35 | i guess it goes back to "if it isn't broken don't fix it" | |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:36 | eythian | it's kinda broken |
| 18:36 | jcamins | Any unit tests you'd like to write would be much appreciated. |
| 18:36 | eythian | in the sense that it's hard to extend |
| 18:36 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 18:36 | like im trying to do now | |
| 18:36 | and failing hard | |
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| 19:11 | * rangi | waves good morning and goes to make breakfast for atarau |
| 19:11 | * cait | waves back |
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| 19:26 | rangi | back |
| 19:26 | he | |
| 19:26 | 's eating honeypuffs i have about 10 mins | |
| 19:26 | * jcamins | just read a report about cereal advertising to children. |
| 19:28 | rangi | oh yeah? |
| 19:28 | atarau eats anything | |
| 19:28 | as long as I say, this is what kapa haka groups eat | |
| 19:28 | * jcamins | will summarize: you're going to kill your kids if you let them eat cereal that is marketed for kids. |
| 19:29 | * wizzyrea | noticed that after the spud visits his gran with her satellite television, that he suddenly wants all kinds of crazy toys and questionable food items. |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | viva la netflix. |
| 19:29 | jcamins | (but it's better now than it was three years ago) |
| 19:29 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]1jc&feature=g-upl |
| 19:29 | oh yeah american cereal is a trip | |
| 19:30 | curse my compulsion to try new things | |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | hahahahahah he's so tough |
| 19:30 | jcamins | Aww. |
| 19:30 | rangi | i spend most of my visits to the USA high on sugar |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:31 | rangi | (that video was on sunday) |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | to think, that's how we (some of us) live all the time. High on sugar. |
| 19:31 | terrifying. | |
| 19:31 | * jcamins | doesn't even have processed foods much and manages that. ;) |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | cheerios makes "fruity cheerios" now |
| 19:31 | jcamins | Honey nut cheerios are about as healthy as candy. |
| 19:31 | wizzyrea | froot loops > shredded wheat fruit in the middle > fruity cheerios |
| 19:32 | but it's still a lot of sugar. | |
| 19:32 | (that is, greater in sugar) | |
| 19:32 | jcamins | rangi: Myshkin was a little scared by Atarau at first, but decided he approves. |
| 19:33 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea: sugar cereal then ritalin for the adhd | |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | i know right |
| 19:34 | rangi | its a nice little feedback loop |
| 19:35 | our biggest cereal controversy here | |
| 19:35 | is that sanitarium, (who make things like weetbix and marmite) | |
| 19:35 | are owned by 7th day adventists and dodge taxes | |
| 19:37 | oh and also marmitegeddon | |
| 19:38 | which is a very cynical and clever marketing campaign | |
| 19:38 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foo[…]ocks-run-out.html | |
| 19:46 | wizzyrea | ooh tax dodgers! |
| 19:48 | jcamins | wizzyrea: just so long as they don't dodge the marmite tax! |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | oh and naturally hillary clinton says something dumb and snarky about it. |
| 19:48 | * wizzyrea | was quite fond of cheesymite. |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 19:49 | rangi | its what she does, that endears her to the public so |
| 19:49 | wizzyrea | i…. i guess. |
| 19:50 | rangi | hehe |
| 19:50 | http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]-hits-New-Zealand | |
| 19:50 | no real damage anywhere so that's good | |
| 19:50 | wizzyrea | yea, wow that's a big one |
| 19:51 | rangi | kristina was presenting remotely during it |
| 19:51 | http://virtualbreath.net/curio[…]sh-of-earthquake/ | |
| 19:52 | so you can hear what it was like | |
| 19:56 | at about 4.40 | |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | oh my poor girl |
| 19:59 | cait | brave girl |
| 19:59 | she continued | |
| 19:59 | rangi | hehe, 'ok, no worries' |
| 19:59 | she's been here a while :) | |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | i like her combo kiwi/german accent |
| 20:00 | it's cute :) | |
| 20:00 | yes very brave jeez :) | |
| 20:01 | cait | anitsirk++ |
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| 20:58 | libsysguy | libsysguy? |
| 20:58 | wahanui | i heard libsysguy was Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 20:58 | libsysguy | ^^ heh |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea? | |
| 20:59 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 20:59 | libsysguy | jcamins? |
| 20:59 | wahanui | jcamins is A-Grade developper on Koha willing to rewrite it from top to bottom. Good Luck jcamins |
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| 21:01 | mbalmer | yes, rewrite Koha in <insert your favourite language here> |
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