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| 02:53 | Waylon | hiya all. |
| 02:53 | Does nginx do virtual hosts? | |
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| 03:01 | dcook | Allo allo #koha |
| 03:05 | No one is running 3.8 for clients, are they? | |
| 03:05 | I take it 3.8.3 is coming out July 21st? | |
| 03:11 | It looks like the MARC 952 isn't being added/updated for items *facepalm* | |
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| 03:21 | rangi | It hasn't done that since 3.4 |
| 03:22 | 952 is no longer stored in marcxml | |
| 03:22 | It's all stored in the items table | |
| 03:23 | Same in 3.4, 3.6 and 3.8 | |
| 03:24 | If it was updating marcxml that would be a bug | |
| 03:33 | dcook | :o |
| 03:33 | Excellent! | |
| 03:33 | Thanks for the heads up, rangi | |
| 03:35 | rangi | If you have upgraded from 3.2 you need to run a script. It's in the 3.4 release notes but also in the INSTALL file |
| 03:36 | dcook | That's to sort out your MARC with the 952? |
| 03:37 | rangi | Yep, or u get doubled up items in it index |
| 03:37 | But everything still works except that | |
| 03:38 | dcook | Hmm, good to know |
| 03:38 | rangi | Not having to update the Marc when items change makes circ faster |
| 03:38 | dcook | Makes sense to me |
| 03:38 | So where is the info stored now? | |
| 03:39 | rangi | So we just create the 952 when indexing |
| 03:39 | dcook | Oh? |
| 03:39 | rangi | The items table |
| 03:39 | dcook | But where in there? |
| 03:39 | The more_xml_subfields field? | |
| 03:39 | rangi | In all the columns |
| 03:39 | dcook | more_subfields_xml* |
| 03:40 | rangi | No that's only for one's that aren't mapped |
| 03:40 | dcook | So some of the data will wind up there? |
| 03:40 | rangi | A very small bit |
| 03:40 | dcook | I seem to remember not all of the subfields having a corresponding database field |
| 03:40 | rangi | And nothing that circ touches |
| 03:41 | dcook | Right. I suppose it pays to keep up with all the releases as a person goes |
| 03:41 | So you're saying the 952 is created when indexing? | |
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| 03:44 | rangi | Yes |
| 03:45 | dcook | I'm a bit confused by that. |
| 03:45 | rangi | And appended to the rest of the Marc |
| 03:45 | dcook | Temporarily? |
| 03:45 | rangi | Same on export etc |
| 03:46 | You understand how zebra works? | |
| 03:46 | We give it xml files it indexes them | |
| 03:47 | So when we write them we add the 952 | |
| 03:47 | Those files are deleted after being indexed | |
| 03:49 | dcook | Ahh, thanks for the explanation :) |
| 03:50 | I didn't/don't really understand how zebra works, but that helps a bit | |
| 03:50 | rangi | Ok gotta go |
| 03:50 | dcook | Sure. Thanks again! |
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| 04:56 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 06:11 | alex_a | hello |
| 06:12 | Rakesh | Hi alex |
| 06:12 | I have installed ubuntu server 12.04 | |
| 06:12 | and before installing koha i ahd installed EHCP | |
| 06:13 | my apache islistening to two ports 80 and 8081 | |
| 06:13 | when i open 192.168.1.60:80 it opens koha page saying koha online catalog is offline | |
| 06:14 | alex_a | Rakesh: 192.168.1.60:80 is the OPAC ? |
| 06:15 | If yes, you should launch koha installer by opening the koha staff interface first. | |
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| 06:18 | rakesh1 | Hi |
| 06:18 | any one there | |
| 06:19 | alex_a | rakesh1: \o |
| 06:21 | rakesh1 | sorry i got disconnected before, i have ubuntu server 12.04, before installing koha i had installed EHCP, apache is listening to two ports 80 and 8081, on port 8081 it is opening EHCP and on port 80 it opens koha but says koha is offline |
| 06:22 | not been able to run web installer | |
| 06:22 | cait | rakesh1: normally the web installer listens to 8080 |
| 06:22 | you will have to tell the program you are using a different port if in your http-conf file I think | |
| 06:23 | rakesh1 | ok, so how do i change that |
| 06:25 | alex_a | bonjour cait :) |
| 06:26 | rakesh1 | ok, thanks right now in file /etc/apache2/ports.conf i have these lines Listen 80 and Listen 8081, |
| 06:27 | cait | yes |
| 06:27 | why did you use 8081? | |
| 06:27 | rakesh1 | initially before installing koha it was only Listen 80 and koha was not running then i put listen 8081 and it started to run but says koha offline |
| 06:27 | cait | you should make it 8080 |
| 06:27 | if you have something else using this port, it will need more work I think | |
| 06:27 | bonjour alex_a :) | |
| 06:28 | rakesh1 | ok i will do that and in file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default it is written on top that this file is used by EHCP |
| 06:28 | could this be a problem | |
| 06:29 | cait | I don't know what ehcp is |
| 06:29 | rakesh1 | easy hosting control panel for Ubuntu server |
| 06:30 | no worries i shall try to change 8081 to 8080 and then see | |
| 06:30 | Thanks for all your help | |
| 06:30 | Bye for now:) | |
| 06:31 | cait | bye :) |
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| 06:50 | rangi | evening |
| 06:50 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:50 | cait | hello rangi and julian_m |
| 06:50 | julian_m | hi cait |
| 06:51 | rangi | you biblibrans fix your solr servers? |
| 06:52 | the leap second bug has been wrecking solr (and other services) aroudn the world | |
| 06:52 | cait | ... time to get to work... rain-- |
| 06:52 | rangi | if you are seeing high cpu usage |
| 06:52 | the fix is | |
| 06:52 | sudo date -s "`date`" | |
| 06:52 | then restart the service (so ntp, solr, mysql et al) | |
| 06:53 | (or you could reboot the whole box if course) | |
| 06:54 | (basically thigns were getting themselves in race conditions) | |
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| 07:22 | rangi | hi paul_p, matts, asaurat and kf |
| 07:22 | kf: you should check your linux servers too | |
| 07:22 | matts | hi ! |
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| 07:23 | marcelr | hello #koha' |
| 07:25 | kf | rangi: noted |
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| 07:55 | rangi | marcelr: bug 3280 puts REMOTE_ADDR in the x-orig-ip header, so now the ip number of the person using it is in the header of the mail, before it was just the ip of the webserver that sent the mail to the mailserver, afaik under german privacy laws, they cant even keep ip numbers in their server logs |
| 07:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3280 normal, P3, ---, semarie-koha, Pushed to Master , opac/opac-sendbasket.pl security leaky |
| 07:56 | rangi | so kf will probably need to check with a privacy expert ( i know they as a public institution get audited for privacy) |
| 07:57 | it might be that needs to become a syspref, so a library can decide conciously if they think it is worth adding the header (which btw is a MS 'standard' they introduced into hotmail) | |
| 07:57 | and which may or may not have any useful impact on spam (im not sure that it does) | |
| 07:57 | kf | I think it might be a problem |
| 07:57 | because we would have to inform the patron before he sends out the mail that it will reveal his/her ip address | |
| 07:58 | rangi | the rest of the patch seems fine tho |
| 07:58 | marcelr | the patch can live without it, i suppose |
| 07:58 | kf | it's already pushed, that will be the problem I think :( |
| 07:58 | rangi | not to 3.8.x its not |
| 07:58 | but yes to master | |
| 07:59 | kf | yeah, but i have to keep an eye on that... if it remains in there |
| 07:59 | marcelr | getting that line out is not a big deal of course |
| 07:59 | rangi | yep |
| 07:59 | marcelr | who writes it? |
| 07:59 | rangi | the main thing is needing to be authenticated to send mail, thats the main spam stopper, the rest is just extra |
| 08:00 | because you cant just sign up to an opac :) if someone wants to go into a library to do it, to send spam .. they have too much time on their hands :-) | |
| 08:00 | marcelr | true |
| 08:01 | rangi | and should jus be hacking drupal or wordpress instead :) |
| 08:01 | marcelr | i will put a followup on the report then |
| 08:01 | rangi | for nz, i think its fine, i just remember kf saying germany had much stricter privacy laws |
| 08:01 | marcelr | about the namespace stuff? |
| 08:01 | rangi | i think they would have to tell people that they are doing it |
| 08:01 | at least | |
| 08:02 | kf | I think so too |
| 08:02 | marcelr | ok |
| 08:02 | kf | could check with another coworker, but we also have very strict rules about webserver logs |
| 08:02 | rangi | which may or may not be a good thing :) |
| 08:02 | marcelr | i thought we had privacy stuff here :-) |
| 08:02 | kf | marcelr: it would be nice if you could change it, would save me headaches |
| 08:02 | marcelr | ok |
| 08:02 | rangi | the abuse one is handy |
| 08:03 | marcelr | just the ip line out |
| 08:03 | rangi | in terms of the blacklists usually contact that address to tell people they are blacklisting |
| 08:04 | ahh i just saw pauls comment | |
| 08:04 | it definitely needs to be a syspref then | |
| 08:04 | if france needs it, and germany cant have it | |
| 08:04 | marcelr | hard |
| 08:04 | rangi | intersting in france you have to sell your users out to law enforcement |
| 08:04 | in germany you arent allowed to | |
| 08:04 | i know where id pick :) | |
| 08:04 | marcelr | but we did not have the line before |
| 08:05 | rangi | nope we've not had it |
| 08:05 | kf | I think I will go and check again with our expert on this |
| 08:05 | rangi | until now |
| 08:07 | here im pretty sure its neither required, nor not required | |
| 08:09 | so it doesnt affect my libraries | |
| 08:12 | kf | ok, he is not here today |
| 08:13 | marcelr | sent patch that comments the line' |
| 08:13 | kf | thx marcelr |
| 08:16 | marcelr | rangi: about namespace stuff: is businesslogic not just another generic container :-) |
| 08:16 | rangi | it isnt businesslogic anymore is it? |
| 08:16 | its service now | |
| 08:16 | marcelr | no forgot its new name |
| 08:16 | wiki is old still | |
| 08:16 | kf | I think it was service - data - schema |
| 08:17 | rangi | and yes its all just generic an equally as unmeaningful as Koha::Utils |
| 08:17 | which was kinda my point | |
| 08:17 | marcelr | :-) |
| 08:17 | rangi | we dont have an inheritance structure, so its just chars |
| 08:17 | it could be Koha: | |
| 08:17 | :wihwq | |
| 08:18 | :) | |
| 08:18 | marcelr | ? |
| 08:18 | kf | can't we use funny utf characters? |
| 08:18 | slef | starts with write, ends with quit? |
| 08:18 | kf | Koha:(snowman)? :) |
| 08:18 | rangi | we have no actual structure, its just words, so pick a thing anything |
| 08:18 | and push the patch :) | |
| 08:18 | kf | oh, that looks wrong now |
| 08:18 | rangi | if Service was a class |
| 08:18 | and we inherited from it, it would make a lot more sense | |
| 08:19 | marcelr | yes |
| 08:19 | kf | do we plan on using a framework for the new namespace? |
| 08:19 | rangi | i think we are building our own? |
| 08:20 | kf | hm |
| 08:20 | why not use an existing one? maybe a good place to start introducing? | |
| 08:20 | * rangi | doesnt want to get involved in this discussion :) |
| 08:20 | kf | ok, forget I mentioned it |
| 08:24 | * mle | forgets whatever it was the kf mentioned |
| 08:26 | rangi | heh |
| 08:27 | * mle | waves |
| 08:27 | rangi | heya mle! |
| 08:27 | mle | rangi whne you tweeted about Manran I had been listening to the gig recording. nice timing. |
| 08:28 | rangi | excellent |
| 08:28 | mle | hey rangi |
| 08:28 | rangi | i got an email from norrie's cousin yesterday actually, who is in wellington at the moment |
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| 08:28 | rangi | its always a suprise when you give someone your card, and they actually pass it on :) |
| 08:28 | mle | hehe |
| 08:29 | it looks like a lovely place you live | |
| 08:30 | rangi | most of the time it is :) |
| 08:31 | gaetan_B | hello ! |
| 08:31 | rangi | heya gaetan_B |
| 08:31 | wahanui | it has been said that gaetan_B is working at Biblibre and did the nice new start page together with asaurat or a fan of icons |
| 08:31 | rangi | heh |
| 08:34 | they are good icons | |
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| 08:38 | gaetan_B | rangi: not everyone shares this opinion ;) |
| 08:38 | rangi | morning eythian |
| 08:38 | eythian | hello |
| 08:38 | wahanui | what's up, eythian |
| 08:38 | gaetan_B | but i do like them a lot :-[ |
| 08:42 | rangi | when someone complains, just say "send a patch then" its suprisingly cathartic :) |
| 08:46 | marcelr | paul_p: jonathan at work today? or on irc? |
| 08:52 | hdl | marcelr: jonathan is there... But at the moment in a meeting |
| 08:53 | marcelr | ok |
| 08:53 | thx hdl | |
| 08:53 | paul_p | marcelr we're at a meeting for 20 more minuts |
| 08:54 | marcelr | paul_p: ok thx |
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| 09:31 | marcelr | matts: did you see the questions on bug 7412 ? |
| 09:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7412 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Signed Off , Pre-filling items in cataloguing |
| 09:31 | eythian | Hmm, I might have to have a go at writing a Unity lens for Koha at some stage. |
| 09:33 | matts | marcelr, now, yes :) |
| 09:33 | marcelr | ok thx |
| 09:34 | * kf | waves at matts and eythian |
| 09:34 | eythian | hiya |
| 09:34 | matts | hi! |
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| 09:49 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #79 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:03 | rangi | hmm bug 8251 |
| 10:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Needs Signoff , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 10:04 | rangi | inverse does not work that way |
| 10:04 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]g.cgi?id=5644#c10 | |
| 10:04 | huginn | 04Bug 5644: critical, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , dropbox mode doesn't set the correct date |
| 10:15 | asaurat | hi rangi: is the version number of Koha ok ? I made an update toward the v3.8.2 tag and in "About Koha" I see "3.08.01.002" |
| 10:16 | eythian | asaurat: I've seen the same thing, I think it's OK |
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| 10:27 | rangi | yep i just forgot to bump it before release, it'll catch up at 3.8.3 (wasnt worth doing a new release for) |
| 10:29 | but it contains all the db updates, .. actually there havent been any since, so the only change will be a manual bump | |
| 10:42 | eythian | grr, so the action logs contain the biblionumber of a returned item, but not the item number. |
| 10:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #79: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/79/ |
| 10:42 | jonathan.druart: Bug 8217: Followup: move code to the document.ready function | |
| 10:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8217 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Focus on search box in Detail page (staff search) |
| 10:45 | rangi | theres a bug for that |
| 10:45 | needs signoff | |
| 10:45 | eythian | too late for me now, it means I can't fix this data properly. At least some of it will have to be done by hand. |
| 10:45 | and some of it with guesswork | |
| 10:46 | rangi | well the itemnumbers are in the statistics table |
| 10:46 | for all the ones that were actually returned, and they started putting the others aside | |
| 10:46 | so it shouldnt be many at all | |
| 10:47 | id be inclined to leave them, just do the ones we know about from statistics, more likely make a mess otherwise | |
| 10:47 | eythian | the item number are only in the stats table if koha new they were issued, I think. |
| 10:48 | Yeah, if there was no circ data, the return didn't go into the statistics | |
| 10:48 | (which makes sense) | |
| 10:48 | actually | |
| 10:49 | lets see how old our circ data is anyway | |
| 10:49 | rangi | yep, but they put aside any that said they werent out |
| 10:49 | so if they just return them tomorrow it should be ok | |
| 10:49 | if it wasnt issued | |
| 10:50 | it goes in as localuse | |
| 10:50 | eythian | I thought they put aside any that the system didn't know about |
| 10:50 | that is, didn't recognise the barcode | |
| 10:50 | rangi | 143 of those |
| 10:50 | so yep, those are the ones not on issue | |
| 10:50 | the ones marked localuse in statistics | |
| 10:51 | eythian | oh right, so any of those can be treated like a return? |
| 10:51 | rangi | yup |
| 10:51 | eythian | OK cool |
| 10:51 | rangi | they are a return when the item is not out |
| 10:51 | the idea being, you return things before you shelve them | |
| 10:52 | eythian | yeah |
| 10:52 | rangi | and then you track what people have been reading |
| 10:52 | but happily the byproduct is we can use them in this case :) | |
| 10:52 | kf | :) |
| 10:53 | eythian | oh, I checked logs. They're putting stuff aside that's not in the catalogue, so we can't rely on that for the data we have |
| 10:53 | but that should be OK | |
| 10:53 | rangi | yep |
| 10:54 | they can deal with them tomorrow when we have the missing sstuff in hopefully | |
| 10:54 | eythian | yeah |
| 10:55 | looks like the circ data we got was only 2 weeks old, too. | |
| 10:55 | kf | 2 weeks! |
| 10:55 | wahanui | 2 weeks is good |
| 10:55 | kf | no wahanui, 2 weeks is not good |
| 10:55 | wahanui | okay, kf. |
| 10:57 | eythian | hrm, looks like an error in my circ import, it sets the issue date to "today", rather than the transaction date from the source. |
| 10:57 | not the end of the world though | |
| 10:58 | Waylon | 2 weeks! |
| 10:58 | wahanui | 2 weeks is, like, not good |
| 10:58 | Waylon | hahah |
| 10:58 | eythian | 2 weeks isn't bad in this case. |
| 10:59 | Waylon | wahanui, 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. |
| 10:59 | wahanui | ...but 2 weeks is not good... |
| 10:59 | Waylon | wahanui, forget 2 weeks |
| 10:59 | wahanui | Waylon: I forgot 2 weeks |
| 10:59 | Waylon | wahanui, 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. |
| 10:59 | wahanui | OK, Waylon. |
| 10:59 | Waylon | 2 weeks! |
| 10:59 | wahanui | hmmm... 2 weeks is not good nor bad, but thinking makes it so. |
| 10:59 | Waylon | HAHA! fantastic! |
| 11:00 | okay, afk. dishes :( | |
| 11:01 | eythian | OK, I think I'm going to have to do this the hard way and make a smart script. I can't just filter on ISBN, as that'll drop any new items. |
| 11:02 | so, it'll have to use ISBN or whatever for matching, and then items barcodes for for them. | |
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| 12:05 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 12:12 | mglavica | hi |
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| 12:12 | drojf | hi mglavica :) |
| 12:13 | mglavica | does somebody know how many installations of Koha there are arround the world? |
| 12:14 | some rough estimation please | |
| 12:14 | drojf | i think rangi said something like millions of downloads. and a lot more than the ~1000 that libwebcats knows of. i think he said 4000 in his talk? |
| 12:15 | mglavica | thnx |
| 12:15 | drojf | its on archive.org, you could just watch it if nobody else is around that knows |
| 12:17 | eythian | I usually say ~1,000 as that's fairly confirmable, but it's impossible to be sure, and there are bound to be many more. |
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| 12:19 | Herwig | Hey all |
| 12:21 | is there annyone here who knows how to get the search engine in koha working ? i installed it but search results 0 | |
| 12:21 | eythian | Herwig: how did you install it, and what version are you running? |
| 12:22 | Herwig | 3.81 + zebra followed the instructions on the web |
| 12:22 | eythian | there are many instructions on the web |
| 12:22 | Herwig | ubuntu + koha instructions |
| 12:22 | also folowed the readme file | |
| 12:23 | eythian | OK. Do a 'ps ax|grep zebra' and see if it says you have zebrasrv running |
| 12:23 | Herwig | 12472 ? Ss 0:00 daemon --name=koha-zebra-ctl.koha --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.err --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha-zebradaemon-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha koha -- /usr/bin/zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/koha-conf.xml 12473 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/zebrasrv |
| 12:24 | eythian | well that looks promising. |
| 12:24 | you do have things catalogued? | |
| 12:24 | and you have set up the rebuild_zebra cron job? | |
| 12:24 | It's that cron job that adds things to the zebra index | |
| 12:24 | Herwig | i imported a few files from z38.50 |
| 12:25 | or is it 39 ;) | |
| 12:25 | eythian | 39 :) |
| 12:26 | Herwig | wait i go and find the cron job |
| 12:26 | just a sec did it last week | |
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| 12:33 | Herwig | first i did put it in sudo crontab -l (did not work) ...but i used a koha user aftherwards but how do i find that again :OP searching |
| 12:34 | eythian | I would recommend doing it however it says in the instructions. |
| 12:37 | Herwig | found it |
| 12:37 | sudo vi /etc/cron.d/koha | |
| 12:38 | 1 * * * * koha $KOHAPATH/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null | |
| 12:38 | i used http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu | |
| 12:38 | eythian | you need to replace $KOHAPATH with your path to koha |
| 12:39 | kf | mglavica: you can search for koha in lib web cats with a registered account - but I always tell people to be cautious with the numbers |
| 12:39 | Herwig | 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a |
| 12:39 | i did | |
| 12:39 | eythian | does it really end at '-a' because that would explain your problem. |
| 12:39 | Herwig | i copied the first url from web ;) |
| 12:39 | no | |
| 12:40 | 1 * * * * koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null | |
| 12:40 | its hars to copy in a linux box under windows | |
| 12:40 | eythian | what happens when you run it by hand, but stick some -v -v on the end and get rid of the 2>&1 > .. bit |
| 12:40 | oh, don't use windows, it makes that easier. | |
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| 12:40 | Herwig | i'm forced using it ;) |
| 12:41 | wait i do ./usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -z 2>&1 > /dev/null ??? | |
| 12:41 | eythian | no |
| 12:41 | you do: | |
| 12:42 | /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v | |
| 12:43 | Herwig | inboop TEMPLINUX:/$ sudo /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v Can't locate C4/Context.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebr |
| 12:43 | i'm still learning sorry | |
| 12:43 | eythian | oh |
| 12:44 | tcohen | PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v |
| 12:44 | eythian | but equally importantly, is PERL5LIB defined somewhere in the cron file |
| 12:44 | also KOHA_CONF | |
| 12:44 | which will be the next error | |
| 12:45 | kf | Herwig: are you using the example crontab file? |
| 12:45 | Herwig | i did |
| 12:45 | tcohen | but you're running from cmnd line now, right? |
| 12:45 | Herwig | if i do the PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha /usr/share/koha/bin/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -b -r -v -v i get error |
| 12:45 | tcohen | don't forget the 'sudo' |
| 12:46 | eythian | yes, you will |
| 12:46 | kf | are the paths correct for your system? |
| 12:46 | tcohen | which I did |
| 12:46 | eythian | the problem is that KOHA_CONF is not defined |
| 12:46 | is it defined in the cron file? | |
| 12:46 | also, is PERL5LIB defined in the cron file? | |
| 12:46 | kf | there are 2 lines on top where you might have to change the paths |
| 12:46 | Herwig | no ... i did read that in the help on koha site but i dont know how to define them |
| 12:46 | tcohen | try putting this lines in /etc/environment |
| 12:47 | KOHA_CONF=/etc/koha/koha-conf.xml | |
| 12:47 | PERL5LIB=/usr/share/koha/lib | |
| 12:47 | eythian | the instructions say to put them in the cron file, you have to do that. |
| 12:47 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]untu#Install_Koha <-- step 3 after this | |
| 12:47 | tcohen | eythian: yes, my suggestion might help for running from command line |
| 12:48 | eythian | tcohen: but you're adding to confusion by deviating from the instructions :) |
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| 12:49 | tcohen | eythian: your'e right! I should change that wiki page :-P |
| 12:49 | eythian | that's probably a better option. |
| 12:49 | tcohen | mornin #koha |
| 12:49 | eythian | though, I'd be reluctant to globally modify PERL5LIB |
| 12:50 | * eythian | has to get back to focussing on work now |
| 12:51 | * tcohen | agrees with eythian |
| 12:51 | tcohen | I actually have wrapper scripts for every command I run as we have several koha instances in same servers |
| 12:53 | eythian | I just use koha-rebuild-zebra and such :) |
| 12:53 | Herwig | ok i did put the 3 lines in dont know how i skipped that |
| 12:54 | kyleh_ | bug 4460 needs sign-off, it's just a quick and easy follow up patch |
| 12:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4460 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, reed, Needs Signoff , Amazon's AssociateID tag not used in links so referred revenue lost |
| 12:54 | Herwig | very nice to point it out thx already |
| 12:56 | tcohen | eythian, after upgrading your packages, do u regenerate the translations? what's the workflow? |
| 12:56 | eythian | tcohen: at the moment by hand |
| 12:56 | drojf | are there any objections to running a mediawiki on our koha server? |
| 12:56 | eythian | there's been some work on making it part of the packages |
| 12:57 | really it just needs testing which I haven't had time for. | |
| 12:57 | tcohen | koha-l10n-es-ES ¿ |
| 12:57 | eythian | yeah |
| 12:57 | drojf: depends. | |
| 12:57 | drojf | eythian: on what? |
| 12:57 | :) | |
| 12:57 | eythian | drojf: what apache are you using? |
| 12:57 | apache2-mpm-itk won't work with mod_php I think | |
| 12:58 | drojf | hm not sure |
| 13:01 | tcohen | drojf: apache2 -l |
| 13:03 | is there a script for finding unused preferences? | |
| 13:04 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8130' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a97e47194ef61940a> / Bug 8130 follow-up, removing duplicate tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]058c05b081a00cebf> |
| 13:05 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #771 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:06 | kyleh_ | bug 4118 needs sign-off, another quick followup patch. |
| 13:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4118 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Add Collection Code to Statistics Table |
| 13:11 | Herwig | http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/ ... just did do 01 and 2 see image any tips ... (trying to get the search working) |
| 13:11 | nengard | I have the survey ready for kohacon2013 - am I supposed to send that out? |
| 13:11 | Herwig | 2012 was good fun :O) |
| 13:12 | nengard | drojf I think you asked me to publish the survey at the end of last week ? is that the case? |
| 13:12 | mtj | Herwig: you dont have yr env. vars set correctly |
| 13:12 | drojf | nengard: please do |
| 13:12 | i'd say 2 weeks from when your mail hits the list? | |
| 13:12 | for voting that is | |
| 13:16 | nengard | It's posted |
| 13:17 | and I'll close the voting in 2 weeks | |
| 13:17 | drojf | nengard++ |
| 13:17 | thanks | |
| 13:19 | Herwig | ok i sudo vi'ed the etc/environment http://users.telenet.be/webwijzer/koha/3.jpg |
| 13:19 | nengard | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]2013-voting-open/ |
| 13:20 | Herwig | i dont dare to vote :) maybe i pick the wrong one |
| 13:21 | kf | Herwig: there is no wrong :) |
| 13:22 | Herwig | thats what i normally say ... hey thats my line |
| 13:24 | kf | Herwig: you were in Edinburgh? now I am wondering... who you are :) |
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| 13:24 | nengard | okay time to take the car to the shop |
| 13:24 | ttyl | |
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| 13:25 | pastebot | "mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "zebra" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/10 |
| 13:25 | mtj | Herwig: -> http://paste.koha-community.org/10 |
| 13:27 | Herwig | ok ehm |
| 13:32 | drojf | Date submitted 1980-01-01 00:00:00 <- i travelled way back in time to vote for kohacon 2013 |
| 13:35 | Herwig | hmz it asks the koha password but there are manny passwords |
| 13:37 | kf | Herwig: what asks? |
| 13:37 | mtj | Herwig: you can always just reset that unix password... |
| 13:37 | $ sudo passwd koha | |
| 13:37 | Herwig | ow i try |
| 13:38 | mtj | ^^ |
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| 13:42 | samuel | hi everybody |
| 13:44 | kf | hi sameul |
| 13:44 | samuel | |
| 13:45 | samuel | hi kf |
| 13:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #771: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/771/ |
| 13:54 | paul.poulain: Bug 8130 follow-up, removing duplicate tab | |
| 13:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8130 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , attach PDF files to a patron record |
| 14:05 | kyleh_ | bil..392 |
| 14:05 | serd3432 | |
| 14:12 | Waylon | uhh.. |
| 14:12 | kyleh_, | |
| 14:13 | * kyleh_ | mashed the keyboard a couple times ; )= |
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| 14:13 | Waylon | kyleh_, your pasword sucks and you need to go change it. |
| 14:13 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:14 | Waylon | wow, #koha is really 24/7] |
| 14:15 | * kyleh_ | uses self-salted passwords for security. If my password was 'MyPassword', his gmail password would be 'MyPasswordGma', and his yahoo password would be 'MyPasswordYah', that way if a site is broken in to, and the attacker brute-forces passwords, the password cannot be used to access his accounts on a different site. |
| 14:16 | Waylon | salts also need to be random. |
| 14:23 | kyleh_ | I also read http://lifehacker.com/5796816/[…]ensible-gibberish |
| 14:25 | nengard | I read that too Kyle, but not all sites let you use spaces ? which is annoying |
| 14:25 | and they require you to throw in special characters and numbers | |
| 14:25 | I tried to change all mine to match what they said in this article, but couldn't | |
| 14:26 | kyleh_ | I know someone who uses non-printing characters in passwords. He types it by holding down a meta-key and typing the character code. |
| 14:27 | kf | must be hard on mobile phones |
| 14:29 | kyleh_ | this was from a time before smartphones existed. Don't know if he still does it. |
| 14:41 | drojf | kyleh_: i read that article too a while ago. funny thing is, i am very often not allowed to use long passwords. it seems like in germany admins love a password length of exactly 8 characters for some reason |
| 14:42 | Waylon | eep |
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| 14:43 | Waylon | sounds like they're being md5'ed or something, only, drojf |
| 14:45 | drojf, "The length of the password is typically limited, if stored unencrypted, because the database table was defined with a certainl length for this field. Maybe even worse: If you are not told about it, your password maybe truncated "silently"." http://software-security.sans.[…]word-is-encrypted | |
| 14:46 | drojf | omg i dont want to know that |
| 14:46 | lalalalalalala | |
| 14:47 | scary :( | |
| 14:50 | Waylon | this possibly means that your trusted german websites, know all your passwords, drojf |
| 14:51 | the good thing though, is they don't log your ip address. they're not allowed to. | |
| 14:51 | kf | lol |
| 14:51 | drojf | heh they do anyway. and google does because they all use it in one or the other way. and facebook. and twitter |
| 14:52 | kf | that's not exactly true I fear |
| 14:52 | what drojf said and there are servers outside of germany and all that | |
| 14:53 | Waylon | right. |
| 14:53 | drojf | also i think there is not really a law that forbids ip logging in general?! what do i know what happens on some guy's webserver |
| 14:53 | the interwebs is a scary place | |
| 15:02 | eythian: sorry, got distracted from the mediawiki question. mod_php on apache-mpm-itk seems to be ok, or would that have become a problem at a later point? the article is from 2008 http://www.debianadmin.com/run[…]tk-on-debian.html | |
| 15:02 | eythian | drojf: I've not checked for a while, but last I tried it didn't look like it was going to work. |
| 15:03 | libsysguy | o/ |
| 15:03 | drojf | eythian: ok, i'll probably just try in a virtual machine and see what happens |
| 15:03 | eythian | I'd be interested to find out |
| 15:05 | drojf | eythian: i'll let you know when/if i find the time to try it |
| 15:06 | tcohen | anyone knows why does 'dpkg --set-selections < install_misc/ubuntu.packages' pull i386 stuff? |
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| 15:12 | eythian | tcohen: that seems odd |
| 15:12 | but I don't know why it would be | |
| 15:12 | unless it's pulling something that has a 32-bit name | |
| 15:12 | (which would also be odd) | |
| 15:12 | vim regex for today, reverse a hash in perl (at least, the hash I was working with just now): s/^\s*\(\w\+\)\s*=>\s*'\(\w\+\)',/\2 => '\1',/ | |
| 15:18 | kf | wow |
| 15:20 | gaetan_B | kf: o/, did you get to try the facets on a 3.8 ? |
| 15:20 | i feel like they are really broken in unimarc | |
| 15:20 | the author one at least | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | gaetan_B: wasn't there a patch to fix author facets in UNIMARC? |
| 15:22 | By fredericd. | |
| 15:22 | gaetan_B | jcamins: BZ3216 ? |
| 15:22 | that's something else | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | Yeah, that's the one I had in mind. |
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| 15:23 | gaetan_B | jcamins: what i noticed in my recent installs is that the facet is correctly generated, but once you click on it, you don't get any result |
| 15:23 | people with other settings than unimarc don't seem to have this problem | |
| 15:24 | * gaetan_B | will open a ticket in BZ |
| 15:24 | jcamins | gaetan_B: that's a problem! Not something I've encountered, though. |
| 15:24 | gaetan_B | hmm jcamins are you using unimarc ? |
| 15:25 | i'm wondering if it's something i did, or if something is really broken ;) | |
| 15:26 | jcamins | gaetan_B: no, but once I get my day started (bit of a late start today) I can pull up my UNIMARC install and see if I can test it. |
| 15:26 | I'm not sure I have enough data, though. | |
| 15:26 | drojf | gaetan_B: i think i have seen something like that with one of our facets, we use marc21 |
| 15:27 | gaetan_B | drojf: ahah... this gets interesting! |
| 15:27 | drojf | hm but cannot reproduce it. seems all good now |
| 15:27 | gaetan_B | ah good for you then ;) |
| 15:28 | drojf | i get no hit for evailable records from the facets |
| 15:28 | even though in my result list there are plenty | |
| 15:28 | maybe it was that | |
| 15:28 | jcamins | drojf: the availability limit doesn't work. |
| 15:28 | Never has. | |
| 15:28 | drojf | ok |
| 15:28 | gaetan_B | drojf: same problem with availability |
| 15:28 | drojf | good. or not |
| 15:28 | * jcamins | doesn't know why we have it, to be honest. |
| 15:28 | gaetan_B | oh i didn't know it never worked, that's embarassing |
| 15:29 | drojf | yeah we should either repair it or disable it then |
| 15:29 | jcamins | gaetan_B: if you only have one copy of each book, it works sometimes. |
| 15:29 | drojf | jcamins: lol |
| 15:29 | * jcamins | would love to see it repaired, but it's a bit too complicated to do in my free time. |
| 15:30 | drojf | sometimes. sounds like at every second full moon in a leap year |
| 15:31 | gaetan_B | fixing this is probably way above my technical skills unfortunately :-/ |
| 15:32 | drojf | i guess i will go with not showing the option. i was able to customize facets for us so that should work |
| 15:33 | kf | i agree |
| 15:33 | we should kill it or make it work | |
| 15:34 | it's a bit embarassing the way it is :( only pretending | |
| 15:34 | gaetan_B | drojf: yes i guess i could do this fairly easily with jquery, but the author facet not working is another problem |
| 15:34 | drojf | gaetan_B: yes. that should not be the case |
| 15:34 | gaetan_B | and i agree it shouldn't be left here if it's not working |
| 15:34 | drojf | are the authors linked to authorities? |
| 15:34 | gaetan_B | yes |
| 15:35 | kf | drojf: but I tink facets don't use the authnumbers :( |
| 15:35 | never have | |
| 15:35 | which is another problem... | |
| 15:35 | drojf | oh. maybe they should |
| 15:35 | kf | oh yes, they totally should |
| 15:36 | jcamins | Yeah, making facets work with authorities would be a very good idea. |
| 15:36 | kf | drojf: file an enh request and pay jcamins to make it work? :P |
| 15:36 | jcamins | :D |
| 15:36 | * jcamins | likes this plan a lot! |
| 15:36 | drojf | if i had enough money for that i would probably just try it myself |
| 15:36 | kf | drojf: and while you are on it... I heard he could fix availability too! |
| 15:36 | heh | |
| 15:37 | jcamins | :) |
| 15:38 | gaetan_B | well in the search results i can click on the author next to the title and it will find results (the link looks like that : /opac-search.pl?q=au:B.%20Baddock) but the facet is not finding anything (and its link looks like this :/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=bad&limit=au:Baddock,%20Barry) |
| 15:38 | kf | drojf: only joking |
| 15:38 | but I think jcamins would do a great job :) because he always does | |
| 15:38 | gaetan_B: does a search for au:b. Baddock work? | |
| 15:38 | in keyword search? | |
| 15:39 | gaetan_B | kf: yes |
| 15:40 | kf | hmpf. |
| 15:40 | gaetan_B | "au:Baddock and au:Barry" works too, and they all give the same result |
| 15:40 | kf | perhaps it#s the limit? |
| 15:40 | but it works for me and the link is totally similar for marc21 :( | |
| 15:43 | drojf | yes thats really weird |
| 15:45 | kf | jcamins: do you know how limits work? could there be something missing in zebra configuration for that? |
| 15:46 | drojf | what is the plus of limit over just another &idx=au&q=Baddock anyway? |
| 15:46 | it does the same for me, maybe it works for gaetan_B | |
| 15:47 | * gaetan_B | got hdl to work his magic on this |
| 15:47 | jcamins | drojf: CCL. |
| 15:48 | drojf | actually it does not do the same, the sorting is different |
| 15:48 | gaetan_B | limit=au,wrdl: instead of limit=au: does the trick |
| 15:48 | because in unimarc the different part of the names are stored in different subfields | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | gaetan_B: isn't that what bug 3216 was supposed to fix? |
| 15:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3216 normal, P2, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , UNIMARC author facets |
| 15:52 | Waylon | okay thats me, night all |
| 15:52 | gaetan_B | jcamins: hmm now that i know where it's coming from , maybe then... |
| 15:56 | ok it turns out it's another bug so i've opened a new ticket : BZ8345 | |
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| 15:58 | * drojf | goes home |
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| 16:03 | * gaetan_B | going home too ! |
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| 16:20 | kyleh_ | Sign off need on bug 3383, yet another minor followup patch. |
| 16:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3383 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Item due reminder digests - cannot display title information |
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| 16:42 | kyleh_ | bug 7189 needs sign-off |
| 16:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7189 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , preference to control if returning lost items gives refund |
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| 16:55 | Oak | time to go home kf |
| 16:55 | kia ora #koha | |
| 16:55 | @wunder islamabad | |
| 16:55 | huginn | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 38.0°C (9:00 PM PKT on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Haze. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:55 | kf | Oak: not yet |
| 16:55 | jcamins | kf: see, I don't have to worry about telling you when it's time to go home, because Oak arrives right when it's time for you to go home every day. :) |
| 16:56 | Oak | :) |
| 16:56 | kf | now we only have to make me listen to the two of you .) |
| 16:56 | tcohen | kyleh_: do u think that patch solves bug 8110 ? |
| 16:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 16:57 | kyleh_ | tcohen: honestly I am not sure. I just hopeing julian would weigh in on it. |
| 16:58 | tcohen | i'm not sure |
| 16:59 | but I belive durations should work as expected | |
| 16:59 | i'm not against making days_between return an integer instead of a duration object, thou | |
| 17:00 | if it simplifies the math, better then | |
| 17:00 | kf | hm if not sure - why don't test it? |
| 17:01 | tcohen | kf: not sure about dirations working as expecte4d? |
| 17:01 | kf | nt sure if it solves the problem |
| 17:01 | I can't say much about the code really - but it should be testable? | |
| 17:01 | tcohen | oh, i think it doesnt |
| 17:06 | * jcamins | has a gift for catalogers everywhere... |
| 17:07 | jcamins | bug 8208 is almost done. |
| 17:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, ASSIGNED , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin |
| 17:11 | tcohen | kf, yes |
| 17:15 | kf | jcamins++ :) |
| 17:16 | jcamins | Bug 8208 is ready for signoff. |
| 17:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8208 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Add "create authority" button to auth_finder plugin |
| 17:16 | jcamins | And I find myself wondering how I ever lived without this feature. |
| 17:17 | Oak | jcamins++ |
| 17:17 | plus, a hug for jcamins ! | |
| 17:17 | * Oak | prays kf computer hangs so she goes home |
| 17:17 | jcamins | :) |
| 17:18 | kf | heh |
| 17:18 | please don't | |
| 17:18 | I am working with powerpoint on a presentation... chances are already not so good | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | kf: we're hoping that your work is saved first. |
| 17:18 | :) | |
| 17:18 | kf | thx :) |
| 17:19 | Oak | your'e welcome |
| 17:22 | me reboot and try Mint now... hoping my wifi will work on it. Debian 6.0.5 does not pick my wifi chip BCM43227... spent whole Sunday trying to make it work and make Fn keys work... no dice. if Mint also does not work, then Siduction.... | |
| 17:30 | nengard | looking for an enhancement i thought i reported - asking that the marc export tool let you load a file of bib numbers to export ? anyone know if I actuallyr eported that or if I dreamt it? |
| 17:30 | I can't find it | |
| 17:31 | jcamins | nengard: that'd be really useful, but I have no recollection of you mentioning it before. |
| 17:31 | nengard | then i'm gonna report it now |
| 17:31 | jcamins | You know what else would be useful? |
| 17:31 | nengard | and if it's a dup someone will find it eventually :) |
| 17:31 | what else? | |
| 17:31 | jcamins | List of barcodes. |
| 17:33 | If you're transferring a large collection to another library, scan the barcodes of each item you're transferring prior to putting it in the box. | |
| 17:34 | nengard | oh ? yeah |
| 17:34 | bug 8346 | |
| 17:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8346 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , batch export marc using file of bib numbers |
| 17:34 | nengard | I'll add that |
| 17:37 | salsa | @later tell oak you may need to install the non-free drivers with Mint, but that almost always works for me to get wifi going with Broadcom chipsets. |
| 17:37 | huginn | salsa: The operation succeeded. |
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| 17:43 | kf | jcamins++ |
| 17:44 | tests for items.pm | |
| 17:44 | jcamins | kf: I just signed off on them. |
| 17:44 | Stacey++ # for actually writing the tests. | |
| 17:47 | kf | oh cool :) |
| 17:47 | eythian | jcamins: stacey == lamiette |
| 17:47 | kf | lamiette++ :) |
| 17:48 | jcamins | lamiette++ |
| 17:48 | * eythian | is expecting a late night at this rate :/ |
| 17:49 | jcamins | eythian: uh-oh. |
| 17:49 | eythian: good news for you is that my day started at 11:30 so you'll have company. ;) | |
| 17:49 | eythian | on the other hand, I now have a script that'll do a bit of a job at merging MARC and items into a live database when there's nothing consistent to match on. |
| 17:50 | jcamins | eythian: ooh. That sounds pretty cool. |
| 17:50 | How do you do it? | |
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| 17:50 | eythian | jcamins: it just checks a whole bunch of things, starts with item barcodes, then title+author, then abstract, then just title, if they all fail it considers it a new biblio |
| 17:51 | for my case it doesn't have to be perfect. | |
| 17:51 | it just needs to be done today | |
| 17:51 | we got given weeks-old data for a go live, instead of current stuff, so I need something so that when I'm given the current data I can load it in without messing too much up. | |
| 17:53 | jcamins | Ouch. |
| 17:53 | eythian | yeah |
| 17:54 | jcamins | eythian: any idea why 3.8.x thinks it is 3.8.1.2? |
| 17:54 | eythian | I think just that rangi forgot to bump the version number is all. |
| 17:54 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 17:54 | But it's not something _I_ did? | |
| 17:55 | kf | jcamins: why should it be you? :) |
| 17:55 | eythian | well, I don't think so, but if you want some blame, I'm sure it can be arranged :) |
| 17:55 | (I assume that's the version your packages are building with, is it? | |
| 17:55 | ) | |
| 17:55 | kf | heh :) |
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| 17:56 | jcamins | eythian: right. |
| 17:56 | I'd prefer no blame, thanks all the same. | |
| 17:56 | kf | bbl |
| 17:57 | trying to get home before the rain starts again | |
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| 17:58 | jcamins | Weird... I swear bug 5332 is already in commit_biblios_file.pl. |
| 17:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5332 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add batch reversion capability to bin/commit_biblios_file.pl |
| 17:58 | jcamins | I mean, I just looked, it isn't, but I have used the scripts to revert. |
| 17:59 | Oh, I wrote it. | |
| 17:59 | eythian | heh |
| 18:00 | jcamins | Not the code on bug 5332. But I needed the revert, so I wrote almost identical code for bug 2060. |
| 18:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2060 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Ability to import Authorities from Staff Client |
| 18:00 | eythian | hmm, I think this merge script is going to result in them having slightly cleaner data, they have a lot of multiply-catalogued entries, and it'll skip those on the new stuff, preferring to attach items to already existing records. |
| 18:01 | jcamins | Excellent! |
| 18:01 | wizzyrea | yea, sounds hawt. |
| 18:01 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 18:01 | The patch on bug 7818 works! | |
| 18:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 critical, P1 - high, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 18:05 | * jcamins | resists the urge to mark it a blocker. |
| 18:10 | eythian | jcamins: that's good. |
| 18:17 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you should test bug 7993. |
| 18:17 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , saved report with hierarchies |
| 18:17 | jcamins | It looks promising, but I simply don't have the expertise to say that it works properly. |
| 18:17 | wizzyrea | hmmm |
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| 18:18 | jcamins | Your librarians will love you forever if you do. |
| 18:19 | cait | huh? :) |
| 18:19 | wizzyrea | whoa |
| 18:19 | cait | back :) |
| 18:19 | jcamins | Bug 7993. I was encouraging wizzyrea to test it. |
| 18:19 | cait | bug 7993? |
| 18:19 | wahanui? | |
| 18:19 | wahanui | cait? |
| 18:19 | jcamins | huginn? |
| 18:19 | wahanui | i heard huginn was a bot too veera, not a person |
| 18:19 | * wizzyrea | would get a dump of her production saved reports just to test that |
| 18:20 | wizzyrea | we have over 1k |
| 18:20 | cait | saved reports?? |
| 18:20 | that's a lot! | |
| 18:21 | eythian | I was amazed by how much libraries love their reports. |
| 18:21 | wizzyrea | it's kind of insanity |
| 18:21 | well that and lack of cleanup | |
| 18:21 | can't find that one report? just recreate it! | |
| 18:21 | eythian | maybe we need a search engine on reports :) |
| 18:23 | SJeffery | librarians are all insane anyway |
| 18:24 | cait | eythian: you can search them |
| 18:24 | eythian | ah right |
| 18:24 | cait | eythian: but it requires to give them a good name and maybe a good description too :) |
| 18:24 | jcamins | Only if you give them useful descriptions and names. |
| 18:24 | eythian | maybe we should enforce attaching a MARC record to each one then ;) |
| 18:25 | cait | lol |
| 18:26 | SJeffery | That is just....mean |
| 18:34 | eythian | OK, borrowers can be merged now. That at least was easy. |
| 18:34 | next up: circulation. This won't be an easy one. | |
| 18:42 | * cait | cheers for eythian :) |
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| 19:13 | rangi | morning |
| 19:14 | eythian | hi |
| 19:14 | wahanui | hey, eythian |
| 19:16 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 19:34 | * rangi | goes to feed the kids |
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| 20:25 | drojf | hmm. not much love for kohacon in nigeria |
| 20:26 | rangi | did you just vote? |
| 20:26 | salsa | I think Africa's time will come, maybe 2013 was just too soon. |
| 20:26 | rangi | was 56 votes when I did |
| 20:27 | drojf | no i voted long ago, i just keep refreshing the window |
| 20:27 | rangi | heh |
| 20:28 | drojf | salsa: i read a few times that US people rather vote for a kohacon they could actually attend, which is perfectly ok |
| 20:28 | needs more koha in africa before a kohacon there i guess | |
| 20:30 | rangi | well it cant be us again next year, if it wins this year, so maybe 2014 |
| 20:31 | drojf | yeah |
| 20:31 | jcamins | drojf: I figure I voted to have it in places I couldn't go to for the last three years, time to vote so that I can go. :) |
| 20:31 | drojf | jcamins: i would do that too |
| 20:31 | all places are highly unlikely for me this time ;) | |
| 20:32 | cait | US might be doable on my own |
| 20:36 | drojf | kohacon holiday? :) |
| 20:37 | cait | smething like that :) |
| 20:37 | eythian | it's what I do ;) |
| 20:37 | cait | is there any place better? |
| 20:37 | yeah, but what you do is exaggerating | |
| 20:37 | ;) | |
| 20:37 | eythian: hope you are not still working? | |
| 20:38 | eythian | I am |
| 20:38 | cait | ouch |
| 20:39 | eythian | It's fairly necessary to finish this today |
| 20:39 | drojf | eythian: is the weather that bad? ;9 |
| 20:40 | ;) | |
| 20:40 | eythian | heh |
| 20:40 | it's doing that warmish muggy thing it always seems to do in the evening now. | |
| 20:41 | cait | warmish muggy thing? |
| 20:41 | eythian | it gets muggy |
| 20:41 | cait | 63 - votes going up fast |
| 20:42 | ah | |
| 20:42 | it#s like that here all day | |
| 20:44 | drojf | what time is it now in argentina? seems like voters are getting up ;) |
| 20:45 | jcamins | @wunder cordoba, argentina |
| 20:45 | huginn | jcamins: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 7.0°C (5:00 PM ART on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:45 | jcamins | 5pm. |
| 20:46 | drojf | heh |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence ks |
| 20:49 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 35.4°C (3:49 PM CDT on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Falling). |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | you should see the forecast - nothing but sun |
| 20:50 | sun sun sun sun sun | |
| 20:51 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 20:51 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 17.8°C (10:50 PM CEST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
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| 21:43 | slef | @wunder Weston-super-Mare SOMERSET |
| 21:44 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Weston-Super-Mare, United Kingdom is 14.4°C (10:40 PM BST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:44 | cait | hi slef |
| 21:44 | slef | @wunder Holbeach |
| 21:44 | huginn | slef: The current temperature in Holbeach, United Kingdom is 15.0°C (9:50 PM BST on July 02, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 96%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:44 | slef | hi cait |
| 21:44 | cait | howa re you doing? |
| 21:45 | slef | bit better |
| 21:54 | how are you? | |
| 21:58 | cait | tired |
| 21:58 | waiting for the washing machine... | |
| 21:59 | drojf | washing at midnight… you must have happy neighbours ;) |
| 22:00 | cait | ah, I don#t think you can hear that |
| 22:00 | living on the lowest floor | |
| 22:00 | drojf | i bet the guy upstairs thinks the same |
| 22:00 | cait | and the next bedroom is 2 floors upstairs |
| 22:01 | hm. well or 1? there is one complete floor in between | |
| 22:04 | drojf | i'm very sound sensitive. i bet i would hear it. i think i can hear it from here :D |
| 22:05 | cait | lol |
| 22:05 | you mean you are very imaginative | |
| 22:05 | that's not sound sensitive :P | |
| 22:05 | drojf | no that was an idiot with a tuned car |
| 22:05 | i would say both ;) | |
| 22:14 | @later tell eythian i got a mediawiki now as a virtual host next to my koha dev installation on the raspi. i don't see any problems so far, both works as expected | |
| 22:14 | huginn | drojf: The operation succeeded. |
| 22:14 | jcamins | drojf: on your _raspberry pi_? |
| 22:14 | Wow. | |
| 22:15 | drojf | that thing is surprisingly capable |
| 22:16 | i think i want a tiny rack and 10 of them :D | |
| 22:17 | jcamins | lol |
| 22:17 | I could make a little colony of them under the shelf I'll be putting on my desk. | |
| 22:18 | drojf | :) |
| 22:18 | i wonder when they are over that huge backorder thing | |
| 22:19 | Despatch expected in 11 week(s) | |
| 22:19 | lol. that said 10 weeks a week or two ago | |
| 22:20 | jcamins | I wonder exactly how I get a 200x2x30cm piece of oak. |
| 22:20 | 2m is kind of a long board to be carrying around the subway. | |
| 22:20 | drojf | grow an oak at home |
| 22:20 | jcamins | drojf: I live in an apartment. |
| 22:20 | A small apartment. | |
| 22:20 | drojf | no balcony? ;) |
| 22:21 | jcamins | A....93 m^2 apartment. |
| 22:21 | Nope. | |
| 22:21 | * jcamins | measures the exact length he needs... it's actually probably a bit under 2m. |
| 22:22 | drojf | i carried parts of a bed from ikea home with two buses. that was pretty much 2m |
| 22:22 | jcamins | Actually, I can get away with a 5' board. |
| 22:22 | drojf | a friend of mine transported a couch in the subway :D |
| 22:23 | jcamins | I also need bricks. |
| 22:24 | drojf | that does not sound too complicated to get |
| 22:24 | jcamins | No, but I only want ~10. |
| 22:24 | The question is where I can get a small enough number. | |
| 22:24 | Preferably in lots of one or two at a time, since carrying ten bricks might be a bit much. | |
| 22:26 | cait | lol |
| 22:26 | I think it's time to sleep | |
| 22:26 | people start talking about bricks | |
| 22:26 | jcamins | lol |
| 22:26 | drojf | if you lived in berlin i would say steal some at construction site, but that may not be normal everywhere in the world :D |
| 22:27 | jcamins | drojf: oak, though? |
| 22:29 | cait | i still favour the grow at home idea :) |
| 22:29 | jcamins | lol |
| 22:30 | cait | at htis time of the day this sounds perfectly reasonable |
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| 22:33 | drojf | i wonder if you could grow a bonsai oak with one crazy 200x2x30cm branch that grows somehow horizontally through your apartment… |
| 22:34 | or just buy it at some diy store and take it in the subway ;) | |
| 22:35 | time for bed here also, or i really start googleing how to grow an oak. good night | |
| 22:37 | ibeardslee | it'd take a wee while to get a decent 2m length |
| 22:37 | jcamins | ibeardslee: yeah, that's the problem. |
| 22:37 | Also, nowhere to put it. | |
| 22:38 | drojf | the cat would love it |
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