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| 04:22 | whois | hi all |
| 04:23 | please help me! | |
| 04:55 | mtj | whois: ok! |
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| 05:52 | mtj | twitter's bookstrap = Koha's next gui framework? :) |
| 05:53 | -> http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/index.html | |
| 05:54 | and a bunch of additional bootstrap themes, too -> http://bootswatch.com/ | |
| 05:54 | cait | I think oleonard was talking abou tbootstrap to replace yui grid |
| 05:54 | mtj | owen is a wise man! :) |
| 05:55 | its easily the best thing for the job, atm | |
| 05:56 | cait | :) |
| 06:07 | morning matts | |
| 06:07 | matts | hi cait ! |
| 06:11 | cait | :) |
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| 06:16 | cait | morning mbalmer |
| 06:16 | mbalmer | morning cait, koha |
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| 06:21 | cait | morning francharb |
| 06:21 | :) | |
| 06:22 | francharb | morning cait |
| 06:22 | morning #koha | |
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| 06:24 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:25 | cait | morning marcelr :) |
| 06:26 | marcelr | :-) |
| 06:27 | mbalmer | is the koha interface to the indexer(s) documented? i.e. how Zebra or Solr is plugged into Koha? |
| 06:27 | cait | I think there is a page about solr on the wiki |
| 06:28 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ene_Documentation | |
| 06:28 | and there is a bug now with a poc for solr | |
| 06:29 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]witch_to_Solr_RFC | |
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| 06:30 | mbalmer | replacing a zebra with a monster … ;P |
| 06:31 | cait | I think the goal is to let you choose your monster :) |
| 06:31 | mbalmer | but the interface seems to be well-defined at first sight |
| 06:32 | magnuse | nope, not replacing zebra |
| 06:32 | mbalmer | yes, that makes sense. |
| 06:32 | cait | mbalmer: you might want to look up the bug, rangi signed off on it and it maybe pushed soon (I hope it will) |
| 06:32 | mbalmer | well, with a well defined interface from Koha to *A* search engine, it should be well possible to change or add indexers |
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| 06:33 | magnuse | bug8233 |
| 06:33 | bug 8233 | |
| 06:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
| 06:33 | cait | magnuse: ts, now you were just a second faster than me :) |
| 06:33 | mbalmer | cait, I don't want to run Solr yet |
| 06:33 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:33 | cait | mbalmer: not talking about using it, but you can study the nterface |
| 06:33 | mbalmer | yes. |
| 06:34 | cait | I only wanted to point out, that there is already an implementation to look at |
| 06:35 | mbalmer | I put me on the CC list of that bug, thanks for pointing me at it |
| 06:35 | cait | ok |
| 06:35 | work time | |
| 06:35 | bbl | |
| 06:35 | magnuse | guess bug 5360 could/should be marked as a duplicate of 8233? |
| 06:35 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5360 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, NEW , From Zebra to solR |
| 06:35 | cait | hm |
| 06:35 | maybe not up to date any longer | |
| 06:36 | because we decided not to switch, but have multiple options | |
| 06:36 | mbalmer | magnuse, it's indeed somewhat superseeeded by 8233 |
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| 06:37 | mbalmer | me and some others hope that there will be a third choice, but we are still waiting for the proof of concept. |
| 06:38 | magnuse | what would the third choice be? |
| 06:39 | mbalmer | well, if it works, a less ressource hungry indexer that does not need java and indexes automatically |
| 06:39 | but as I said, I don't know if it will work. | |
| 06:40 | magnuse | ah, got a concrete indexer in mind? |
| 06:41 | mbalmer | using an SQL database with support functions for bibliographic data. |
| 06:41 | magnuse | ah, got it |
| 06:42 | mbalmer | but no one knows yet a) if it works, and b) if it is fast, and c) if it is flexible enough |
| 06:45 | magnuse | we live in interesting times ;-) |
| 06:46 | mbalmer | say no more, say no more, .... |
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| 06:49 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:50 | mbalmer | bonjour reiveune! |
| 06:50 | reiveune | salut marc :) |
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| 06:55 | julian_m | hello |
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| 06:58 | gaetan_B | hello ! |
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| 07:12 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 07:17 | clrh | hello |
| 07:18 | mtj | hiya clrh |
| 07:20 | mbalmer: the big advantage with solr over... well everything really... is it's many CJK packages | |
| 07:21 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 07:22 | mtj | ... and i would be extremely happy to be proved incorrect, too |
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| 07:24 | mtj | bonjour biblibrians |
| 07:26 | mbalmer | CJK packages? |
| 07:27 | mtj | go on... google it ;) |
| 07:27 | mbalmer | ah, chinese and so on. |
| 07:27 | in german it also means creautzdel-jakob disease... | |
| 07:28 | gotta run, bbl... | |
| 07:29 | mtj | looks like postgres has some cjk support with tsearch2 |
| 07:30 | thats some good news! | |
| 07:31 | * marcelr | looking at Can't locate Text/Unaccent.pm in @INC |
| 07:40 | and Can't load '/usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Text/Unaccent/Unaccent.so' for module Text::Unaccent: /usr/local/lib64/perl5/auto/Text/Unaccent/Unaccent.so: failed to map segment from shared object | |
| 07:42 | hdl | I would rather use Text::Undiacritic. |
| 07:42 | But that's me. | |
| 07:42 | marcelr | yes, someone else thought differently ;) |
| 07:49 | hdl | marcelr: apt-get install libtext-unaccent-perl ? |
| 07:49 | marcelr | it was a selinux error; wrong label on library file |
| 07:49 | thx | |
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| 08:24 | whois | hi all |
| 08:24 | please help me? | |
| 08:25 | Sorry, none of these items can be placed on hold. | |
| 08:26 | while the book was available for loan | |
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| 08:30 | eythian | whois: that probably means you don't have the correct holds rules |
| 08:30 | often it's things like not having set a maximum number, so it defaults to 0 in the circulation rules. | |
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| 08:31 | whois | to eythian: you can login and test: tinphu.no-ip.info |
| 08:31 | eythian | hello wahanui |
| 08:31 | wahanui | hola, eythian |
| 08:32 | eythian | whois: I can't right now, I have a big pile of work to catch up on. However, I'd suggest reviewing your circulation rules relating to holds, that's what the problem is 99% of the time. |
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| 08:35 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 08:35 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:35 | drojf | hi kf :) |
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| 08:35 | kf | hi drojf :) |
| 08:35 | hi mveron :) | |
| 08:35 | marcelr | hi drojf kf |
| 08:35 | drojf | hi mveron |
| 08:36 | kf | hi marcelr :) |
| 08:36 | marcelr | hi mveron |
| 08:36 | drojf | wow a wave of german speakers |
| 08:36 | mveron | hi kf and drojf and marcelr |
| 08:36 | drojf | hi marcelr |
| 08:36 | marcelr | german or dutch |
| 08:37 | drojf | yeah |
| 08:37 | kf | :) |
| 08:37 | nice! | |
| 08:38 | oh...only 1123 mails without mailing lists in my inbox | |
| 08:38 | mveron | Wat leuk :-) |
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| 08:38 | drojf1 | hm |
| 08:38 | network fun again | |
| 08:39 | ah just got a new ip | |
| 08:39 | whois | please guide me how to configure for a book in circulation and can place hold? |
| 08:40 | drojf1 | whois: have you looked at the documentation? |
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| 08:58 | whois | I am a Vietnam |
| 08:58 | document the flow of koha 3.8.0 I do not understand | |
| 08:58 | hope you help me with the most concise way | |
| 09:05 | one can not fail, helps me with | |
| 09:06 | kf | whois: I think easiest is starting on the administration page, work down from top to bottom |
| 09:06 | and check the help pages for the sides, there is a ? in the top corner | |
| 09:06 | also manual? | |
| 09:07 | documentation? | |
| 09:07 | wahanui | documentation is at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 09:09 | whois | You can visit my administration: tinphu.no-ip.info: 8080 |
| 09:09 | kf | whois: sorry, but your eally have to start with some of the documentation |
| 09:09 | we can't guide you step by step to all configuration | |
| 09:10 | drojf | is there a support company that covers vietnam? |
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| 09:13 | drojf | from the 2% translation i would say no |
| 09:13 | kf | someone recently started translation |
| 09:13 | there were mails to the mailing list | |
| 09:15 | whois | the OPAC we translate all, here you see: tinphu.no-ip.info |
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| 10:09 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 10:09 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 24.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:11 | eythian | @wunder brighton |
| 10:11 | huginn | eythian: Error: No such location could be found. |
| 10:11 | eythian | @wunder brighton, uk |
| 10:11 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Brighton, Brighton, United Kingdom is 14.3°C (11:00 AM BST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:12 | eythian | that's not summer! |
| 10:14 | kf | heh |
| 10:14 | it's warm here :) | |
| 10:14 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 10:14 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 11.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:14 | kf | and sunny, you are just in the wrong place! |
| 10:15 | eythian: how is work in brighton? ) | |
| 10:15 | * magnuse | imagines eythian scooting around europe, searching for summer |
| 10:16 | kf | heh |
| 10:16 | and now he is not talking to us... ts. | |
| 10:17 | lamiette | hey, Brighton does get sunny and awesome! we've had summer #1 (back in May) and we'll have summer #2 in aug/sept :) |
| 10:17 | kf | hi lamiette :) |
| 10:17 | eythian | kf: it's pretty good |
| 10:17 | magnuse: that's my plan ;) | |
| 10:17 | lamiette | hi kf |
| 10:18 | magnuse | eythian: yay! |
| 10:22 | eythian: sis you see this? http://act.yapc.eu/mtmh2012/index.html | |
| 10:22 | s/sis/did/ | |
| 10:23 | eythian | magnuse: I did. |
| 10:23 | However, the timing is a little bad for me | |
| 10:24 | http://act.yapc.eu/ye2012/ <-- magnuse, I am hoping to make this though | |
| 10:28 | magnuse | cool |
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| 10:29 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 10:29 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is 26.6°C (12:13 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:30 | magnuse | there's your summer, eythian |
| 10:30 | drojf | so i did not miss this year's week of summer :) |
| 10:30 | eythian | magnuse: konstanz also looked pretty good, and I'll be going there. |
| 10:30 | @wunder marseille | |
| 10:30 | huginn | eythian: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 28.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 28%. Dew Point: 8.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:30 | eythian | also going there... |
| 10:30 | drojf | when? :P |
| 10:30 | eythian | over the course of the next two months |
| 10:31 | drojf | if summer will last that long… |
| 10:31 | eythian | hush |
| 10:32 | mtj | eythian: is there anywhere you *aren't* going in the next 2 months? :p |
| 10:32 | eythian | not if I can help it :) |
| 10:33 | magnuse | hehe |
| 10:33 | mtj | i miss eythian already... :( |
| 10:34 | eythian | Is hashigo feeling a bit too empty? |
| 10:35 | mtj | yes, it's nothing without your smiley little face :) |
| 10:36 | eythian | how creepy :) |
| 10:37 | mtj | heh, yeah - that was a bit creepy :p |
| 10:46 | kf | lol |
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| 10:47 | Oak | Ahoy me hearties |
| 10:47 | kf | hi Oak |
| 10:47 | Oak joined #koha | |
| 10:48 | Oak | hello kf :) |
| 10:50 | kf, does your employer make koha brochures for clients? I need to see some Koha brochures... | |
| 10:51 | kf | we do,... but they are german :) |
| 10:51 | Oak | that's okay. link please? |
| 10:51 | or email... | |
| 10:58 | i meant german is fine, i'd like to see them. kf, | |
| 10:59 | kf | maybe check some of the english speaking companies too? |
| 11:01 | Oak | sure... will do. what does [off] mean? |
| 11:01 | off topic? | |
| 11:02 | kf | not in the logs :) |
| 11:02 | Oak | ah |
| 11:02 | kf | hiding from google |
| 11:03 | Oak | um, but why? |
| 11:03 | wahanui | but why are you even looking at backports? |
| 11:04 | Oak | never mind. will annoy later. |
| 11:15 | * eythian | notes that when going through the web installer, there are two parts that claim to give you some Z39.50 servers. |
| 11:16 | kf | wrong description maybe? |
| 11:16 | the description for the sample libraries is wrong too | |
| 11:16 | there is something mentioned aobut hardcoded library types or something | |
| 11:17 | eythian | yeah |
| 11:17 | I didn't know what that was talking about | |
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| 11:17 | * kf | volunteers eythian to write a patch :P |
| 11:17 | kf | hi Viktor! :) |
| 11:17 | * kf | = Katrin |
| 11:17 | Viktor | Hi Katrin! Nice to see you |
| 11:18 | kf | ah, phew, for a second I wondered if I you are the Viktor from Sweden :) |
| 11:18 | Viktor | I said I´d try to get a little more involved on the IRC :) |
| 11:18 | kf | and so you do, glad to see you here :) |
| 11:18 | Viktor | :) |
| 11:19 | Anything new? Did you get well for the hackfest? | |
| 11:19 | kf | ah, it was ok, the first day was not so good, after that mostly ok |
| 11:20 | Viktor | Nice to hear you did'nt miss the whole thing at least. |
| 11:20 | eythian | kf: I'll add it to my queue of Things to Do |
| 11:20 | kf | eythian: that sounds not very promising... if your list is like mine :) |
| 11:20 | brb | |
| 11:20 | eythian | I think it may be |
| 11:21 | Viktor | By the way - is there any other place to look for documentation of the circulation rules than the manual? |
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| 11:22 | Viktor | I'm trying to set up some rules that's not the standard "5 bucks / week and item" |
| 11:23 | (it´s the fees I´m having problems with) | |
| 11:23 | Welcome Guest365 | |
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| 11:24 | eythian | Viktor: you'll have to say what you're trying to do, some things can be done, others can't. |
| 11:25 | Viktor | Ok - here goes: there's two main set of rules. One set of fine rules for free media and one for paid media. |
| 11:26 | Free media: After a week I want to charge 50 SEK regardless of how many items are late. | |
| 11:26 | eythian | I don't think you can do that kind of thing |
| 11:26 | at least, without making a patch ;) | |
| 11:27 | Viktor | But if there are holds on the media (still the free ones) I want to charge from day one they are overdue. |
| 11:27 | Shame, but that is sort of what I started to think myself. | |
| 11:27 | Or that I´m just missing obvious things again :) | |
| 11:28 | eythian | I think there's a billion different combinations that people _could_ have for fines, however most people just want the fairly simple defaults. |
| 11:28 | It'd require quite an overhaul to allow the more complex stuff. | |
| 11:28 | Viktor | So I might have to look into how much trouble a patch wold be I guess :) |
| 11:29 | eythian | I think writing something general would be quite hard, but I'd still encourage you to try. |
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| 11:29 | eythian | There may also be a few simple things you can add that'll do what you need. |
| 11:29 | Viktor | I´d love to learn some Perl - and my goal is to get at least one line of code into Koha this year :) |
| 11:30 | eythian | good goal :) |
| 11:30 | Viktor | But I´ll think I´ll have to get some money together to buy the development from my vendor. |
| 11:30 | Yes :) | |
| 11:31 | I´ve mostly played with Python lately, but Perl should be doable I guess. But it´s a lot of learning with the whole infrastructure around Koha like server administration. | |
| 11:33 | eythian | yeah, there are a lot of moving parts |
| 11:34 | kf | back :) |
| 11:35 | ah fines | |
| 11:35 | libsysguy is working on a rewrite, but I am not sure how far h eis | |
| 11:35 | I think there is a script to do static fines in master now | |
| 11:35 | that might work for the rule you want independent on the number of items | |
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| 11:36 | kf | perhaps check bugzilla - I think it was "static fine" or something similar |
| 11:36 | Viktor | Thanks kf! |
| 11:36 | kf | but I think there is nothign yet to distinguish between items that are overdue with/without holds |
| 11:37 | espresso time bbiab | |
| 11:37 | Viktor | Ok, but still I´d guess it´s a lot easier to add that then to write the whole stuff yourself :) |
| 11:38 | kf | I think maybe talk to libsysguy |
| 11:38 | heis starting to work on that, so if there is an additional requirement he might be interested | |
| 11:38 | matts | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 |
| 11:38 | huginn | 04Bug 6858: normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Stable , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing |
| 11:38 | kf | there is also something on the wiki about a notice rewrite |
| 11:38 | Viktor | Looks very promising! |
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| 11:42 | Viktor | Yes - I think it´ll take us close to what we want to do. |
| 11:42 | Thanks again! | |
| 11:43 | Which proves (again) that the community is a huge part of Koha :) | |
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| 11:46 | * jcamins | supposes that his solution to bug 8264 probably won't make most IE users happy. |
| 11:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
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| 11:59 | neo_ | is any document regarding running koha web over https ? |
| 12:01 | Viktor | Sorry but I don´t have any experience with that. But there are lot´s of people who do know Koha really well here so I hope someone knows. |
| 12:01 | jcamins | neo_: as far as I know, it's just a matter of turning on HTTPS in your VirtualHost. |
| 12:02 | juan_sieira | neo_ |
| 12:02 | you can see a example here, it's only a virtualhost over 443: http://fer2401.net84.net/ssl | |
| 12:02 | neo_ | so there won't be other issues, right ? |
| 12:02 | yes | |
| 12:02 | juan_sieira | you have to generate your pem files and thats it, similar to other projects |
| 12:06 | neo_ | yep, thank you juan_sieira and jcamins |
| 12:07 | nengard | jcamins what is the solution to bug 8264 ? |
| 12:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
| 12:07 | nengard | as much as I hate IE - don't we make an effort to make the OPAC work in as many browsers as possible? |
| 12:08 | jcamins | nengard: "do without, or pay me to care." |
| 12:09 | nengard | well that's okay :) |
| 12:09 | as long as it's not - we won't fix it :) | |
| 12:10 | jcamins | nengard: nah, I'd be happy to fix it, but local cover images was not something that I was paid to do. |
| 12:10 | nengard | got it |
| 12:10 | drojf | nengard: i would not consider IE a browser :P |
| 12:10 | nengard | I'm with you!! |
| 12:10 | jcamins | If I knew how to do it off the top of my head, I'd tell you, and you could go fix it. |
| 12:10 | nengard | but I can't convince paying customers of that |
| 12:11 | drojf | make them pay more to make it work in IE ;) |
| 12:11 | nengard | well, it is the OPAC - we make them all use FF for the staff client, but we have no control over their patrons |
| 12:12 | drojf | ok that's a point |
| 12:12 | damn patrons, always a hassle :D | |
| 12:13 | nengard | webinar time ? be back later |
| 12:14 | * jcamins | still charges more. |
| 12:14 | jcamins | drojf: to be perfectly honest, I don't mind those clients so much... I would like Koha to work perfectly on IE. |
| 12:15 | drojf | jcamins: yes it should be browser agnostic and just work for everyone, in theory |
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| 12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:19 | drojf | hi oleonard |
| 12:20 | kylemhall | I have a couple patches for bug 8110 that need signed-off. It's a blocker level bug. |
| 12:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days |
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| 12:24 | wizzyrea | kylemhall: I may get to that today |
| 12:32 | kylemhall | wizzyrea: excellent! |
| 12:33 | eythian | http://www.kogan.com/au/blog/n[…]t-explorer-7-tax/ <-- jcamins |
| 12:37 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 12:37 | That's the way to do it. | |
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| 12:47 | oleonard | I was curious about Bug 8264, but find I can't test it because I can't upload a local cover image |
| 12:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8264 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , local cover images not working in IE8 |
| 12:50 | marcelr | Bug 8263 to get the number of sysprefs one down :-) |
| 12:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Make OPAC stylesheet preferences more consistent |
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| 12:51 | jcamins | oleonard: why can't you upload a local cover image? |
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| 12:53 | oleonard | jcamins: Uh oh, looks like that's an IE problem too. |
| 12:54 | After clicking "upload file" IE reloads the page but doesn't show the option to say whether it's a single image, etc. | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 12:56 | oleonard: I suggest uploading with a web browser, then testing the OPAC with IE. | |
| 12:56 | drojf | lol |
| 12:57 | jcamins | drojf: what? Like the way I smoothly suggested a web browser for uploading? :) |
| 12:58 | drojf | i do :) |
| 12:58 | oleonard | FWIW, IE9 looks the same as FF, but not quite right: The local cover image with the "no cover image" box below it. |
| 12:58 | nengard's screenshot looks like a javascript problem, but I don't have IE8 to test with | |
| 12:59 | jcamins | oleonard: I would be willing to bet that IE8 has issues with Google Books covers too, since the local cover image Javascript is shamelessly copy-and-pasted. |
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| 13:05 | magnuse | Oak |
| 13:06 | Oak | magnuse |
| 13:06 | :) | |
| 13:06 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:09 | schuster | Are the ISBN 10 - 13 searches working in 3. 6.5? for some reason it is only bringing up exact and not checking for both. |
| 13:12 | jcamins | schuster: I didn't think there was any implementation of the proposed ISBN 10/13 conversion. |
| 13:12 | I can tell you that won't be going into 3.6.x if it is implemented, though. | |
| 13:12 | Too much chance of it breaking things. | |
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| 13:15 | schuster | Can you tell if this is a required module? Business::ISBN ? it shows when I look at PERL Dependencies, but I am not seeing that on my current install. |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Yes it is. |
| 13:17 | schuster | So what do people "match" on when loading MARC records? |
| 13:17 | eythian | if you wanted to show title and subtitle in overdue notices, how would you go about it? |
| 13:17 | jcamins | schuster: lots of places use ISBN. |
| 13:17 | eythian | I'm thinking of hacking a 'biblio.fulltitle' into the notices template |
| 13:18 | schuster | But if they don't match exactly it doesn't match - 10 /13 problem. |
| 13:18 | eythian | because there's no db field for subtitle, and no way to express logic to make it look good even if there were. |
| 13:19 | jcamins | schuster: that is correct. If you are using OCLC, I prefer OCLC number. |
| 13:19 | But I am in a very small minority. | |
| 13:19 | * drojf | just had a loading time of ~11 seconds for the opac page on the raspberry pi with plack |
| 13:19 | drojf | i see tiny libraries coming |
| 13:20 | eythian | libraries for mice! |
| 13:20 | schuster | We do not use OCLC. I thought this was working in an earlier version - Way back in 3.0 we had done development on this and I thought it had made it to general community code... |
| 13:22 | drojf | eythian: with tiny books on cheese |
| 13:22 | jcamins | schuster: the feature was not in 3.2. |
| 13:24 | (but could conceivably have been included in 3.0 but not master, I suppose) | |
| 13:25 | oleonard | schuster: Was there a bug in Bugzilla for it? |
| 13:28 | Hm, okay looks like this power outage is going to outlast my UPS. | |
| 13:28 | Back later I hope. | |
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| 13:40 | tcohen | mornin' #koha |
| 13:40 | Viktor | Morning :) |
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| 13:41 | magnuse | hiya tcohen and Viktor |
| 13:41 | Viktor | (or good evening as I´d call it where i am) |
| 13:41 | :) | |
| 13:41 | tcohen | where Viktor? :-D |
| 13:41 | Viktor | Sweden. |
| 13:41 | You? | |
| 13:41 | wahanui | You are our ladybug cait or free to add the features you need.. just saying.. |
| 13:41 | jcamins | wahanui: forget you |
| 13:41 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot you |
| 13:41 | jcamins | You? |
| 13:42 | tcohen | Cordoba, Argentina |
| 13:42 | Viktor | Hi magnuse |
| 13:43 | drojf | Viktor: <4pm is evening already in sweden? |
| 13:44 | Viktor | Yep - going home soon :) |
| 13:44 | But I have to write some mail for magnuse first | |
| 13:44 | jcamins | Right, that's it, I'm moving to Sweden! |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:44 | Viktor | :) |
| 13:45 | It´s cold, but your'e quite welcome to move here :) | |
| 13:45 | magnuse | hehe |
| 13:45 | drojf | there is not much koha in sweden as of yet, right? |
| 13:45 | so plenty of libraries for everyone ;) | |
| 13:46 | Viktor | drojf No sadly not, but it´s picking up speed a bit I think. |
| 13:46 | magnuse | where i used to work we worked 8am-3pm in summer (3 months) and 8am-3.45pm for the rest of the year |
| 13:46 | Viktor is doing a great job on fixing that drojf :-) | |
| 13:46 | Viktor | That's good magnuse |
| 13:46 | :) | |
| 13:47 | drojf | Viktor: are you librarian/libtechnician or vendor? |
| 13:47 | Viktor | It struck me that I should provide you with a "we have to afford at least this or it's no go" with the signs magnuse |
| 13:48 | drojf I'm with the Regional development council in Halland (a region of Sweden) | |
| 13:48 | Started out as nerd who became librarian. | |
| 13:48 | drojf | nice :) |
| 13:49 | Viktor | Now I'm working with all the stuff that libraries dont have time to think about. Like control of the code. |
| 13:49 | And you? | |
| 13:49 | drojf | i work at a special library at humboldt university in berlin |
| 13:50 | more the techside, like you | |
| 13:50 | Viktor | Nice :) |
| 13:50 | How long have you been on Koha? (if you are) | |
| 13:52 | drojf | we are not live yet. ugly old database to import |
| 13:52 | Viktor | Sound like "fun" |
| 13:52 | drojf | heh |
| 13:53 | Viktor | Migration can be a pain I understand. |
| 13:53 | The one I've done so far was easy - they had no circulation going :) | |
| 13:53 | drojf | yes, our data is weirdly structured. or not structured at all :D |
| 13:56 | Viktor | What system are you using today? |
| 13:57 | drojf | some selfbuilt filemaker thing that somebody made to replace the old paper catalogue years ago |
| 13:57 | Viktor | I see. We have a academic library here running a Filemaker system they built themselves here. |
| 13:57 | magnuse | that *does* sound like fun ;-) |
| 13:58 | kf | dpavlin: is your plack presentationonline somewhere? :) |
| 13:58 | Viktor | It´s called "ProBib" |
| 13:58 | drojf | Viktor: tell them to use koha ;) |
| 13:58 | kf: from kohacon? it is, somewhere | |
| 13:58 | no they did not do plack there | |
| 13:58 | heh | |
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| 13:59 | drojf | confused |
| 13:59 | wahanui | confused is "Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?" |
| 13:59 | tcohen | bug 8251 |
| 13:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8251 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha, Signed Off , Patrons are systematically debarred at checkin |
| 14:00 | dpavlin | kf: I don't think I had *presentation* I showed plack and performance wiki page, and all info should be there somewhere |
| 14:00 | tcohen | is there a list of bugs that need atention so 3.8.x becomes stable? |
| 14:00 | jcamins | tcohen: there's a list called FIXME NOW. |
| 14:00 | Viktor | I'll certainly ask them :) They have taken an interest in Koha, but I don't think they are up for throwing out their custom system just like that. They built a lot of other internal workflow into it. |
| 14:00 | jcamins | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]d=1&list_id=33480 |
| 14:01 | drojf | Viktor: but it's probably all stuff you can do with koha, only differently i suppose? |
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| 14:01 | kf | drojf: didn't you meet viktor in edi? |
| 14:02 | drojf | no must have missed him |
| 14:03 | too many new people for my little brain | |
| 14:08 | can i upload a png to the wiki? | |
| 14:11 | dpavlin: http://i.imgur.com/wmIrf.png \o/ | |
| 14:13 | Viktor | KohaCon was great - but I didn't either get to know everybody. But the group photo was a good idea. Let's med remember many names and faces. |
| 14:13 | asaurat1 | I remember you, Viktor =) |
| 14:13 | (I think so) | |
| 14:13 | you're from Sweden ? | |
| 14:14 | mbalmer | bbl.. |
| 14:14 | drojf | asaurat: easy for you, you did not need to learn the names of all the people from your company ;) |
| 14:14 | asaurat | loll |
| 14:16 | Viktor | Yep! asaurat :) |
| 14:17 | dpavlin | drojf: You can upload attachment to wiki, I manage to insert image into performance page. |
| 14:17 | kf | dpavlin: heya :) |
| 14:17 | slides for plack? | |
| 14:17 | magnuse | Viktor: did you talk to people at kohacon about the digital signs? |
| 14:17 | kf | want to show my sysadmin :) |
| 14:17 | dpavlin | kf: I don't think I had *presentation* I showed plack and performance wiki page, and all info should be there somewhere |
| 14:18 | drojf | dpavlin: ok, but i will write up plack on raspberry pi somewhen later, need to get some sun first. |
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| 14:20 | dpavlin | kf: http://blog.rot13.org/koha/koha-plack-debug.ogv is overview of development tools which are in state of flux, and not yet in upstream |
| 14:20 | jcamins | dpavlin: have you looked at C4::Context? |
| 14:21 | vfernandes | hi Koha community... there is any UNIMARC plugins for 100$a authority? |
| 14:21 | dpavlin | jcamins: yap. I have half-baked Koha which replaces memoize and memcache with chi variants, but that's probably not what you are asking... |
| 14:21 | jcamins | It seems to me that we could make Plack start up a lot more efficiently if we didn't have that horrible BEGIN { } block and ->new() getting called every time the file is used. |
| 14:22 | dpavlin | jcamins: but that would change our cgi compatibility up to some point, right? |
| 14:22 | jcamins | dpavlin: no, just check whether we need to call ->new() prior to calling it. |
| 14:23 | I might be misunderstanding how it works, but I think that Plack is recreating the Context object every time it opens a new page, just like CGI. | |
| 14:25 | (not necessarily for every request, but for every page) | |
| 14:26 | Viktor | Bye - see you another day. Got to go home. |
| 14:29 | kf | dpavlin: I thnk you showed some pictures... |
| 14:29 | dpavlin | jcamins: I agree. Will have to see what I can do wile preserving CGI compatibility |
| 14:30 | * dpavlin | leaves his keyboard to go to coffee with sister, sorry. BRB |
| 14:30 | * jcamins | thinks that leaving one's keyboard is an excellent idea. |
| 14:31 | * magnuse | leaves his keyboard to make dinner |
| 14:31 | * drojf | leaves his keyboard to see the sun :) |
| 14:31 | drojf | a lot of unattended keyboards in #koha |
| 14:32 | * wajasu | attends to his keyboard |
| 14:33 | waits as remove_items_from _biblioitems is run ......................... | |
| 14:34 | * kf | is downloading debian |
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| 14:37 | jcamins | kf: oh? |
| 14:37 | eythian | can anyone tell me what the UNIMARC title and subtitle fields are (245$a and $b in MARC21) |
| 14:38 | tcohen | anyone can explain the nature of bug 8071, i'm willing to test the patch but not sure haw to do it |
| 14:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8071 blocker, P1 - high, ---, henridamien.laurent, Needs Signoff , link beween bib and authorities with the authid |
| 14:38 | * wajasu | rebuild zebra index |
| 14:38 | kf | jcamins: new vb for koha dev at work :) |
| 14:38 | eythian: I think maybe 200 | |
| 14:38 | unimarc documenation? | |
| 14:38 | unimarc? | |
| 14:38 | wahanui | hmmm... unimarc is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
| 14:38 | kf | tcohen: I asked the same question on the bug :( |
| 14:39 | tcohen | yeah, i know |
| 14:39 | maybe hdl? | |
| 14:39 | eythian | oh goodie, a pdf |
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| 14:40 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 14:40 | eythian: 200$something | |
| 14:42 | eythian | jcamins: yeah, 200$a is title, but I can't see an equivalent for 245$b |
| 14:42 | vfernandes | 200$a title... 200$e subtitle |
| 14:43 | eythian | "Other Title Information" ... sounds plausible, I'll go with that. |
| 14:43 | thanks vfernandes | |
| 14:44 | vfernandes | anyone can help me with this: there is any UNIMARC plugins for 100$a authority? |
| 14:44 | jcamins | vfernandes: no idea, sorry. |
| 14:44 | * tcohen | re-reads his previous posts, and belives he has to abandon coffee for a few days. English getting worse! |
| 14:44 | vfernandes | thanks anyway jcamins :) |
| 14:45 | kf | vfernandes: I thought there was one - does it not show up in the plugin list |
| 14:45 | ? | |
| 14:45 | ah, authority, I think I am confusing with bibliographic :( | |
| 14:46 | vfernandes | for biblio there one... but the 100$a in the authorities are completely different of the biblio :/ |
| 14:47 | jcamins | vfernandes: hdl would know, probably. |
| 14:47 | Or francharb. | |
| 14:47 | wahanui | francharb falls asleep easily at sea. Don't believe me? Just ask Brooke. |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Uhhh... what? |
| 14:48 | kf | jcamins: stories from India I think |
| 14:48 | jcamins | Ah. |
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| 15:01 | ropuch | Good morning :) |
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| 15:07 | jcamins | paul_p: did my answer on bug 6557 clarify? |
| 15:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
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| 15:09 | paul_p | hi jcamins, nope i'm a little bit late pushing those days :\ |
| 15:10 | jcamins | paul_p: that's okay. I just want to make sure that my reasoning makes sense. |
| 15:10 | kf | ropuch: hi :) |
| 15:10 | jcamins | (to you... I know it makes sense to me;) |
| 15:11 | ropuch | Hello kf [; |
| 15:12 | I've just installed 3.8 (highest version used so far was 3.4) | |
| 15:12 | I was little suprised by the look of intranet home page | |
| 15:13 | jcamins | ropuch: yes, one of the features in 3.8 was a redesigned staff client. |
| 15:13 | kf | ropuch: it's still koha, no worries .) |
| 15:13 | clrh | rangi: thanks for 8233 - so important for us :) |
| 15:14 | kf | rangi++ clrh++ :) |
| 15:14 | hdl | tcohen: the problem comes from BNF biblio records and authorities. They add $9 " 0 " in elements linked to authorities. |
| 15:15 | And then, when authorities are linked and displayed... | |
| 15:15 | the $9 gets the user to authority "0" | |
| 15:15 | So this is a bad behaviour. And quite anoying. | |
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| 15:17 | hdl | jcamins: vfernandes mmm no 100$a plugin for authority that I know of... |
| 15:17 | vfernandes: same for UNIMARC leader btw | |
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| 15:20 | vfernandes | thanks hdl |
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| 15:24 | * wajasu | upgraded from v3.1 to v3.8, works ok. |
| 15:28 | neo_ | hi |
| 15:28 | wahanui | que tal, neo_ |
| 15:28 | neo_ | i have encountered some error , trying to configure ssl for koha |
| 15:28 | wizzyrea | bug 8233 |
| 15:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8233 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , New search engine layer - introduce solr without breaking anything else |
| 15:29 | neo_ | i think some rewrite rule error |
| 15:29 | wizzyrea | ooh crlh++ rangi++ |
| 15:29 | pastebot | "neo_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "https error of koha" (32 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/1 |
| 15:30 | wajasu | solr excellent! |
| 15:30 | neo_ | any idea ? |
| 15:31 | wajasu | so we will have a java jvm on the host? |
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| 15:33 | jcamins | wajasu: for running solr, that is necessary, I believe. |
| 15:33 | wajasu | yes. so my VM will need the JVM. |
| 15:34 | jcamins | For testing? Yep. Sorry. |
| 15:35 | wajasu | then i can contribute my java tools for legacy data migration into koha. |
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| 15:35 | neo_ | sorry , my mistake, forgot to change the port, it was 80, now changed to 443, working fine |
| 15:36 | hdl | neo_: congrats |
| 15:36 | neo_ | ;) |
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| 15:37 | wajasu | i am able to use sshfs from debian to mount my host OS koha git clone. so i patch/code in my host with all my tools, and run the koha web app in dev mode no problem. |
| 15:38 | jcamins | wajasu: yeah, I've been thinking I might adopt that method, too. |
| 15:39 | mtj | yeah, its how i'm doing it too... |
| 15:39 | wajasu | i did a perl Makefile.PL dev environemnt with no problem from my VM. |
| 15:39 | ok. we have quorum. | |
| 15:40 | mtj | i was getting lots of 'VM disk is too small' errors too |
| 15:40 | wajasu | i put a colorized bash prompt for git, and it tells me if i have changed things in my branch, and reports the brnch i am in. |
| 15:41 | jcamins | mtj: I have /home on a separate virtual disk. |
| 15:41 | mtj | jcamins: yep, thats the one :) |
| 15:42 | wajasu | i used -oidmap=user,uid=1000,Ciphers=arcfour |
| 15:43 | so whn i change the branch on my hostOS (or separate VM in your case), i can skip through patch environments. | |
| 15:45 | i was able to build the koha-common deb package too. | |
| 15:46 | jcamins | Did you find a way to deal with the fakeroot? |
| 15:46 | wajasu | i must have |
| 15:46 | jcamins | I guess that means you're not sure what it was? :) |
| 15:47 | eythian | fakeroot has issues when mounted over some network filesystems |
| 15:47 | jcamins | eythian: yeah, we discovered that. |
| 15:47 | eythian | I can't run it on NFS, for example |
| 15:48 | that's why pdebuild is handy, it uses a chroot to build in. | |
| 15:48 | jcamins | Apparently wajasu managed to do it on his system, though. |
| 15:48 | wajasu | i added koha ALL=(ALL) ALL just under the one for root in /etc/sudoers and things ran through. To get some root capability |
| 15:48 | i ran as koha user | |
| 15:49 | eythian | yeah, I do the sudo thing too |
| 15:49 | oh, I also add nopasswd: | |
| 15:49 | (for my dev environment) | |
| 15:50 | wajasu | i hadn't done the no password thing yet. |
| 15:50 | pastebot | "neo_" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Working SSL configuration for Koha on CentOS 6.2" (232 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/2 |
| 15:51 | neo_ | that is a working config for koha ssl |
| 15:51 | wajasu | but i bumped my VM to 5G. |
| 15:51 | jcamins | neo_: I'm impressed that you got Koha working under CentOS in the first place! |
| 15:51 | neo++ | |
| 15:52 | neo_ | yes jcamins , with your help of course |
| 15:53 | now i am going to implement in the production server | |
| 15:54 | wajasu | i had to build with the fakeroot in /tmp i think. let me try again. |
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| 16:08 | kf | eythian: are you still working? |
| 16:09 | eythian | yep |
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| 16:12 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 16:12 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 30.0°C (6:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 21%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:12 | koha_pune | hello all, I wanna fetch title, author from items table where borrower number is = 1 however I am not able to see any relationship btw items and borrowes table... I saw some forums joining table issues, statistics however no data maitained in those tables... any tips |
| 16:13 | jcamins | sql reports library? |
| 16:13 | wahanui | it has been said that sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 16:13 | jcamins | ^^ you should look there |
| 16:13 | koha_pune | okay...lets have a look |
| 16:14 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 16:14 | huginn | drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Germany is 33.2°C (6:00 PM CEST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Falling). |
| 16:15 | drojf | thunderstorm coming up |
| 16:15 | koha_pune | guys, in the section 'List of all items currently borrowed from another library' we can see that they join PK and FK from table 'issues' |
| 16:15 | now the question would be | |
| 16:16 | what if there is no data maintained in the issues table ? | |
| 16:16 | any workaround to that | |
| 16:16 | ??? | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | No, if you don't have any issues, you don't have any issues. |
| 16:16 | koha_pune | I m not talkin about having issues... |
| 16:16 | drojf | heh |
| 16:16 | koha_pune | there can be no issues always in some situation |
| 16:17 | the idea is to get data | |
| 16:17 | related to items and borrowers | |
| 16:17 | and not related to issues... | |
| 16:17 | drojf | "title, author from items table where borrower number is = 1" |
| 16:17 | how should there be a situation like this without issues? | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | koha_pune: there is no relationship between items and borrowers. |
| 16:17 | Borrowers = people who borrow books (or catalog them) | |
| 16:17 | koha_pune | why it would be ? |
| 16:17 | yep | |
| 16:17 | right | |
| 16:17 | however in my case | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | Items = physical books in a collection. |
| 16:18 | koha_pune | 3 people r cataloging |
| 16:18 | almost 100entries per day per user | |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 16:18 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 16:18 | koha_pune | and issues are not reflecting the same |
| 16:18 | the aim is to get data | |
| 16:18 | related to borrowers and items | |
| 16:19 | I saw the PK and FK maitain | |
| 16:19 | btw issues and items | |
| 16:19 | jcamins | koha_pune: what data do you want? |
| 16:19 | koha_pune | now my 3 guys |
| 16:19 | data like | |
| 16:19 | lets make it simple | |
| 16:19 | title and author only | |
| 16:19 | and as u advised | |
| 16:19 | I fired the query given on wiki | |
| 16:20 | to the table | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | Title and author of *what*? |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | bbiab |
| 16:20 | koha_pune | under table items joined with bbiab |
| 16:21 | jcamins | koha_pune: there is no title and author information associated with titems. |
| 16:21 | *items | |
| 16:21 | koha_pune | I know that |
| 16:21 | and after joining with biblio and biblioitems | |
| 16:21 | we can get it - right | |
| 16:21 | jcamins | That information is in biblio. It is easy to get that out. The question you have to ask now is which records would you like the author and title of? |
| 16:22 | koha_pune | assume that I m borrower 1 who r cataloing 10 entry per day |
| 16:22 | jcamins | You've mentioned borrowernumber, but that has nothing to do with biblio records, really. But I presume you don't just want a list of all titles and authors. |
| 16:22 | So you want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user? | |
| 16:22 | koha_pune | now I want to fetch the title and author |
| 16:22 | yes | |
| 16:23 | => I want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user? | |
| 16:23 | jcamins | Okay, that's a very different question from what you asked originally. :) |
| 16:23 | koha_pune | oh sorry ffor the misunderstaning |
| 16:23 | jcamins | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]dded_by_cataloger |
| 16:23 | koha_pune | thanks |
| 16:24 | lookin at it | |
| 16:24 | jcamins | Note that you do have to have the cataloguing log turned on. |
| 16:26 | koha_pune | okay jcamins |
| 16:26 | that helped me ;) | |
| 16:26 | i m tryin now | |
| 16:26 | thanks | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | You're welcome. I just needed to understand what you wanted to do. :) |
| 16:28 | drojf | i did not know there is a violet stage after the red stage for storm warnings. but we have one now |
| 16:31 | eythian | Just wait until you have a plaid warning |
| 16:31 | * jcamins | is not entirely sure whether you are joking or not about the plaid warning, because unfortunately that does sound like something a government would come up with. |
| 16:32 | drojf | lol eythian |
| 16:32 | kf | time to go to a biergarten ;) |
| 16:32 | bye all! | |
| 16:32 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:32 | drojf | oh-oh getting really dark. nice that this starts now AFTER i took a long walk in the sun :) |
| 16:32 | eythian | http://youtu.be/mk7VWcuVOf0 <-- jcamins |
| 16:33 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 16:34 | koha_pune | @jcamins |
| 16:34 | huginn | koha_pune: I suck |
| 16:34 | koha_pune | hey there is 2 Titles added by cataloger |
| 16:34 | the one give me count => this one I knew | |
| 16:34 | the other should give me the title, author | |
| 16:34 | right ? | |
| 16:35 | jcamins | koha_pune: instead of selecting COUNT(whatever) select "biblio.title, biblio.author" |
| 16:35 | koha_pune | k |
| 16:37 | nengard | can anyone test bug 8110 so that we can get that very important fix in to 3.8.2 (hopefully) |
| 16:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, Needs Signoff , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 16:38 | koha_pune | not returning data as the table action_logs dont have title and author |
| 16:39 | we shall join it with biblio table but on which base of PK, FK | |
| 16:39 | here is my query | |
| 16:40 | SELECT biblio.title, biblio.author FROM action_logs WHERE module='CATALOGUING' AND user=<<Borrower number>> AND info!='item' AND action='ADD' | |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | I signed off of it, however, I'd like to see a signoff with a positive functional test. |
| 16:42 | (the test plan indeed came back correct) | |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Is anyone around who is running Windows? |
| 16:48 | Preferably XP? | |
| 16:48 | eythian | And will admit to it? |
| 16:48 | jcamins | eythian: yes, that would help too. |
| 16:48 | drojf | lol |
| 16:48 | jcamins | If you PM me, I will not out you. |
| 16:49 | drojf | i have a virtual machine with xp. i think it still works |
| 16:49 | jcamins | drojf: I'm trying to figure out with XP has nslookup. |
| 16:49 | *if | |
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| 16:50 | drojf | it says it has some problem but starts up. wait a minute |
| 16:50 | eythian | jcamins: I think that it does |
| 16:51 | drojf | yes it does |
| 16:51 | jcamins | eythian: I think so too, but instructing a non-computer illiterate to use nslookup means I have to be sure of the command. |
| 16:51 | *not-computer literate user | |
| 16:51 | eythian | fair enough |
| 16:52 | wajasu | when building the deb packages, i did: pbuilder create --othermiror 'deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main' --mirror http://ftp.debian.org/debian |
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| 16:52 | jcamins | drojf: does the command `nslookup demo.cplibraries.com` return useful information? |
| 16:52 | IP address, specifically. | |
| 16:52 | drojf | maybe, but the machine has no internet :D |
| 16:52 | jcamins | drojf: ah. |
| 16:53 | drojf: nslookup localhost? | |
| 16:53 | wahanui | I can't find that machine name |
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| 16:53 | eythian | nslookup google.com |
| 16:53 | wahanui | google.com is 74.125.227.142 |
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| 16:53 | jcamins | Whoah! |
| 16:53 | That's awesome! | |
| 16:53 | drojf | heh |
| 16:54 | eythian | except that it forces a reconnect |
| 16:54 | jcamins | eythian: well, yeah. |
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| 17:03 | drojf | jcamins: network bridging seems not to work with the vm anymore. i disabled that at some point because i wanted xp not to phone home. but it doesn't work now that it is enabled anyway |
| 17:04 | jcamins | drojf: well, you can just try to resolve localhost. I'm just trying to make sure that the command I'm giving is at least somewhat correct. |
| 17:05 | wizzyrea | jcamins http://www.microsoft.com/resou[…]kup.mspx?mfr=true |
| 17:05 | * wizzyrea | consults the manual |
| 17:05 | jcamins | wizzyrea: thanks. |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | >.> yw |
| 17:06 | jcamins | wizzyrea: silly me, I thought when I looked for nslookup on Microsoft's site, I'd get instructions for something other than Windows 7. |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | runs around shouting "I'm helping!" |
| 17:06 | drojf | i get the same response regardless of what i write. default servers are not available, server unknown, address 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:06 | * wizzyrea | guesses you have undefined DNS on your VM |
| 17:07 | drojf | wizzyrea: yes network does not work at all here. it is supposed to be that way, just strange that i cannot change it back :D |
| 17:09 | jcamins | drojf: you have a real OS for the host? |
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| 17:11 | wizzyrea | oh, quick check |
| 17:11 | drojf | jcamins: the host is debian |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | google koha - are we ranked again? |
| 17:11 | jcamins | drojf: it's a security feature. |
| 17:11 | wizzyrea | my tests indicate so but google knows what I'm looking for |
| 17:12 | in my tests it's #2 | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | My tests agree. |
| 17:13 | * wizzyrea | cheers |
| 17:13 | wizzyrea | that's better than it was before the relevancy changes |
| 17:13 | we used to be 5-6 | |
| 17:13 | of course, that's *after* they nuked us out of the results completely. | |
| 17:14 | so that's a positive recovery. | |
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| 17:17 | * drojf | likes http://duckduckgo.com/Koha_(software) |
| 17:17 | drojf | unfortunately we are only #2 without disambiguation. doesn't make any sense |
| 17:31 | jcamins | There was a bug to do with the first result on the second page of OPAC search results. |
| 17:31 | Bug 7894. | |
| 17:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC |
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| 17:38 | koha_pune | hi all |
| 17:38 | I I want a list of all books cataloged by a particular user | |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | did you try this one? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ed_by_cataloger_2 |
| 17:41 | oh never mind. not exactly what you are looking for | |
| 17:43 | wait can't you do this through the logging interface? | |
| 17:43 | tools -> log viewer | |
| 17:44 | put the librarian's borrowernumber in "librarian", module "catalog," action "add: | |
| 17:45 | info "biblio" | |
| 17:45 | koha_pune | hi wizzyrea |
| 17:45 | wizzyrea | that will give you a list of biblionumbers |
| 17:46 | koha_pune | already tried the above query but not filtering borrowernumber |
| 17:49 | the second tought didnt work too :( | |
| 17:49 | i got No log found for Bibliographic Record . | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | koha_pune: that means you don't have logging turned on. |
| 17:49 | koha_pune | ohh is it |
| 17:49 | how to turn it on ? | |
| 17:49 | jcamins | manual? |
| 17:49 | wahanui | somebody said manual was at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 17:50 | jcamins | ^^ if you look in the manual in the administration section, it will talk about the CataloguingLog syspref. |
| 17:51 | wizzyrea | select biblio.title, biblio.author, biblio.biblionumber from biblio left join action_logs on (biblio.biblionumber = action_logs.object) where action_logs.user='19'; if you had logging on this would work |
| 17:52 | shows all items | |
| 17:54 | even better: select biblio.title, biblio.author, biblio.biblionumber from biblio left join action_logs on (biblio.biblionumber = action_logs.object) where action_logs.user='19' and module='CATALOGUING' and info = 'biblio'; | |
| 17:54 | koha_pune | @jcamins and wizzyre yep you both are right |
| 17:54 | huginn | koha_pune: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready |
| 17:54 | koha_pune | logging is turned off :( |
| 17:55 | jcamins | koha_pune: in IRC, you can just use nick: rather than @nick |
| 17:55 | koha_pune | action_logs.object are not updated at all |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | bummer. That's the only place the cataloger's ID is recorded. |
| 17:55 | koha_pune | hmmm...it sucks |
| 17:55 | I havent configured it | |
| 17:55 | wizzyrea | *shrug* that's what logging is for. |
| 17:55 | drojf | on the plus side… you don't have to worry about how to get the info *hides* |
| 17:57 | koha_pune | now...after enablin logs...would the data already entered will be afftected ? |
| 17:57 | is there a risk ? | |
| 17:58 | for the previous data ? | |
| 17:58 | wizzyrea | how would it know who did it? |
| 17:58 | (no) | |
| 17:58 | koha_pune | okay |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Hmmm... I think that query might have something to do with pazpar2/ |
| 18:11 | *? | |
| 18:11 | (on the mailing list) | |
| 18:12 | koha_pune | guys, i m Home › Administration › System Preferences |
| 18:13 | and confirming that CataloguingLog is on Log status | |
| 18:14 | one sec | |
| 18:18 | * jcamins | giggles. |
| 18:18 | jcamins | Neo = Mr. Anderson. :) |
| 18:24 | koha_pune | jcamins |
| 18:24 | thanks man | |
| 18:24 | it worked ;) | |
| 18:24 | thanks wizzyrea | |
| 18:25 | ur query is perfect ;) | |
| 18:25 | good night guys | |
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| 18:30 | * tomascohen | is preparing the field to test patches for bug 8110 |
| 18:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 18:30 | jcamins | tcohen++ |
| 18:30 | tomascohen++ | |
| 18:31 | What's with the new nick? | |
| 18:31 | * jcamins | was confused. |
| 18:31 | jcamins | ;) |
| 18:32 | tcohen | this is weird, i've changed to 'tomascohen' in the UI so it shows 'tcohen' in the IRC |
| 18:32 | quassel irc client malfinction | |
| 18:56 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:56 | wahanui | Morning is probably a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 18:58 | rangi | tcohen: I haven't tested the fix for bug 8110 yet but my fear is by fixing it for us style dates its now broken for others. I'm most likely wrong |
| 18:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 19:00 | tcohen | i'm trying to imagine haw to test it |
| 19:00 | how | |
| 19:00 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:01 | I think would have to insert some lines in issues that would cause a fine today | |
| 19:02 | Then mark today a holiday | |
| 19:02 | And run the cronjob | |
| 19:03 | And try with different date format sysprefs | |
| 19:03 | Not easy to test | |
| 19:04 | tcohen | the thing is, due dates are calculated on checkout |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Is it possible to do @array = sort @array? |
| 19:05 | (and have it work!) | |
| 19:05 | rangi | Yeah but unfortunately can just run sql updates to change them tcohen |
| 19:05 | Hmm fortunately even | |
| 19:06 | Depends what's in the array jcamins | |
| 19:06 | jcamins | rangi: just strings. |
| 19:09 | rangi | Should work |
| 19:09 | U might want to specify cmp | |
| 19:10 | So it does nice string comparisons | |
| 19:11 | Ok. Gotta feed kids bbiab | |
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| 19:17 | * jcamins | prefers baking bread in the oven. |
| 19:18 | jcamins | (to the stovetop) |
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| 19:35 | mbalmer | if you have strange or complicated MARC files, I am interested. in getting a copy... |
| 19:36 | drojf | what would make a MARC file strange or complicated? |
| 19:36 | more than normal i mean | |
| 19:36 | mbalmer | different languages etc. |
| 19:38 | cait | mbalmer: remind me tomorrow maybe? |
| 19:38 | I can point you to some interesting ones | |
| 19:38 | if hebrew is interesting you could download a few records from hfjs.bsz-bw.de | |
| 19:39 | search for something like dvd | |
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| 19:39 | jcamins | If vaguely non-standard compliant records qualify, any Arabic record in NYU's catalog should do. |
| 19:40 | cait | searching in hebrew works too, but bit more difficult to do :) |
| 19:40 | evening jared | |
| 19:40 | mbalmer | I am really interested in strange MARC records to stress test the marc datatype in PostgreSQL |
| 19:42 | jcamins | Drat. I can't figure out how to iterate through a regular array in T::T. |
| 19:42 | Afternoon, cait. | |
| 19:43 | rangi | For loop |
| 19:44 | Or you could do a while loop | |
| 19:44 | cait | use a loop! |
| 19:44 | sorry :) | |
| 19:44 | :P | |
| 19:44 | jcamins | rangi: I can make them work with arrays of hashes, but not so much with arrays of strings. |
| 19:45 | rangi | Should be the same arrayref.$i |
| 19:46 | drojf | good morning rangi |
| 19:46 | * cait | waves at drojf |
| 19:46 | drojf | hi cait |
| 19:48 | rangi | Heya drojf |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | yes, please double check that fines dev, functional testing is going to be hard. |
| 19:48 | or hard-ish | |
| 19:48 | jcamins | Oh, silly autovivification. |
| 19:49 | [% dbfile %] won't say "hey you idiot, the variable is misspelled!" | |
| 19:49 | mbalmer | missspelled |
| 19:50 | drojf | rangi: is there a diminutive of koha? |
| 19:50 | mbalmer | koha.i |
| 19:50 | kohalino | |
| 19:50 | drojf | i mean in maori ;) |
| 19:51 | cait | a small gift? |
| 19:51 | rangi | Iti is small |
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| 19:51 | rangi | Koha iti |
| 19:52 | jcamins you can make it do that | |
| 19:52 | Strict mode | |
| 19:53 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:53 | * jcamins | may start doing that while developing. |
| 19:54 | rangi | Good idea |
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| 20:05 | rangi | Ok my stop bbiab |
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| 20:16 | cait | morning kathryn |
| 20:16 | hi querty | |
| 20:16 | kathryn | hiya cait. I just finished cleaning chicken soup out of my bag :S |
| 20:16 | cait | oh no :( |
| 20:16 | bag | oh no |
| 20:16 | kathryn | yech! |
| 20:16 | cait | well, at least it was not cream |
| 20:16 | kathryn | Hi bag :) |
| 20:16 | cait | cream makes your bag stink cheesy |
| 20:17 | forever | |
| 20:17 | kathryn | oh true, i can confirm there was no dairy in it |
| 20:17 | cait | ... found out the hard way |
| 20:17 | bag | I am not stink cheese ;) |
| 20:17 | cait | haven't met you yet ;) |
| 20:17 | kathryn | hehe |
| 20:18 | cait | only joking of course :) |
| 20:18 | brb | |
| 20:21 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:21 | I have an initial implementation for bug 8268! | |
| 20:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Koha should offer way to backup entire db |
| 20:22 | kathryn | hey jcamins that's pretty awesome |
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| 20:30 | rangi | back |
| 21:10 | mtj | morning #koha |
| 21:11 | rangi | hi mtj |
| 21:12 | cait | back too :) |
| 21:39 | night :) | |
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| 21:45 | jcamins | wizzyrea: bug 8268 is ready for your sign off! |
| 21:45 | :D | |
| 21:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8268 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha should offer way to backup entire db |
| 21:46 | rangi | yay! |
| 21:46 | jcamins | rangi: or yours. |
| 21:46 | kathryn: or yours! I in no way intended to imply you weren't permitted to sign off! | |
| 21:47 | rangi | heh |
| 21:47 | jcamins | ^^ the same goes for everyone. |
| 21:47 | rangi | is it sandbox testable? |
| 21:47 | jcamins | rangi: no. |
| 21:47 | rangi | db changes eh? |
| 21:47 | jcamins | No, the paranoid sysadmin in me made it so that you have to enable the feature in koha-conf.xml. |
| 21:48 | rangi | ah right |
| 21:48 | i might get a chance tonight, hopefully someone beats me to it | |
| 21:49 | kathryn | jcamins : ) encouragement accepted! |
| 21:53 | * wizzyrea | is feeling signoff shy |
| 21:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: awww. It's not that scary! |
| 21:53 | Well, other than the commit message. | |
| 21:54 | * jcamins | will grant it's kind of a scary message. |
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| 22:27 | drojf | good night #koha |
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