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| 00:42 | wajasu | v3.8.0 - when i import a biblio via z3950 server (LOC) i usually have to specifiy the the koha item type. (usually book), but isn't that sor t of detail in the marc record? and doesn't koha leverage that? maybe a mapping of marc type to koha item type at timport? or am i missing something? |
| 00:43 | talljoy | yes, the item type is buried in the marc, but the import tool does not look for it. Koha stores an itemtype in the 942$c field at the bibliorecord level. |
| 00:44 | i can see the value of leveraging that information as you say. Koha refers to that marc leader item type in some of it's displays which can be a tad annoying if the type is different from what the library calls it | |
| 00:46 | wajasu | that leader 06 position? maybe its too ambiguous. but then we would need a column in the item type table, which might already be there since i didn't look, that enables such a rule at import. |
| 00:47 | i'll scan the bug db to see if this has been suggested in the past. | |
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| 00:51 | wajasu | here is something related http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4814 |
| 00:51 | huginn | 04Bug 4814: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Item Type (MARC952 $c) not self-populating from imported OCLC bib |
| 00:54 | talljoy | that's close, but refers more to the item level itemtype not populating. |
| 00:56 | i wonder if there is a reason that the 006 item type is not utilized. curious. | |
| 01:12 | wajasu | i'll bring it up during the work week. it could at least default when the tab is selected. |
| 01:26 | jcamins_away | wajasu: talljoy: no, you cannot derive 942$c from the bib record. |
| 01:27 | It's a common misconception that item format as described by 006/008 is related to 942$c. | |
| 01:28 | * jcamins_away | wanders off. |
| 01:31 | jcamins_away | If the two coincide for your data, you could do some sort of batch update, but it would not be general enough to include in Koha's import functionality. |
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| 01:55 | wajasu | well, there you have it then. |
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| 05:51 | mib_tvzb2t | hi |
| 05:52 | someone there ? | |
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| 07:41 | * cait | waves |
| 07:41 | cait | mle_imac: back at video editing? |
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| 08:04 | * magnuse | waves |
| 08:04 | cait | hi magnuse :) |
| 08:05 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 08:05 | cait | working on a sunday? |
| 08:05 | magnuse | yeah, trying to get some things done |
| 08:06 | you too? | |
| 08:07 | cait | yeah |
| 08:07 | some testing :) | |
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| 08:08 | magnuse | kia ora eythian |
| 08:08 | cait: testing what? | |
| 08:08 | cait | patches? :) |
| 08:08 | magnuse | ah |
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| 08:11 | mbalmer | morning |
| 08:11 | magnuse | hiya mbalmer |
| 08:11 | cait | hi mbalmer |
| 08:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #56 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 08:39 | magnuse | 3.8.2 nb-NO opac 100% translated! |
| 08:39 | rangi | yay1 |
| 08:39 | ! even | |
| 08:40 | cait | yay!! |
| 08:40 | which reminds me... | |
| 08:40 | but it's so boring! | |
| 08:58 | magnuse | the opac was quick - 15 strings at most |
| 08:59 | but yes, translating is not the most fun... | |
| 08:59 | rangi: would you say 3.8.2 will be ready for production? | |
| 09:03 | rangi | nope |
| 09:03 | id wait for 3.8.3 there are still problems with the calendar/holidays as well as a problem with fines | |
| 09:04 | fines are now calculated on return .. as well as with the cron job and seem to be doubling up, i think the calculate on return should be a syspref, and it should be made impossible to double up | |
| 09:05 | magnuse | hm, none of my customers use fines |
| 09:05 | rangi | and there's nothing worse than charging peopel the wrong amount |
| 09:05 | magnuse | yeah, that sux |
| 09:05 | rangi | the calendar one would get you too |
| 09:05 | it ignores holidays | |
| 09:05 | magnuse | not sure any of mine use that either |
| 09:05 | rangi | you migth be ok then |
| 09:07 | magnuse | guess i better upgrade my test install and give it a spin... |
| 09:08 | rangi | :) |
| 09:09 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #56: SUCCESS in 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/56/ |
| 09:09 | Chris Cormack: Revert "Bug 7444: Update circ/circulation.pl to use KohaDates TT Plugin" | |
| 09:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Use T::T date plugin to display dates omnibus |
| 09:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #57 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:10 | magnuse | they will all be in holiday mode soon too :-) |
| 09:10 | \o/ success! | |
| 09:10 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3fd920d677fe18da1 |
| 09:11 | you can see whats in 3.8.2 ( a few more might sneak in before release but not many) | |
| 09:12 | there are still some blockers/criticals | |
| 09:14 | bug 8253 | |
| 09:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8253 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Fine doubling |
| 09:14 | rangi | bug 8243 |
| 09:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8243 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , calendar being ignored |
| 09:14 | rangi | bug 8110 |
| 09:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8110 blocker, P1 - high, ---, savitra.sirohi, In Discussion , Fines accruing on closed days |
| 09:15 | rangi | all need to be fixed before i could use 3.8.x anywhere |
| 09:17 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]NOW&list_id=33398 | |
| 09:17 | does that work? | |
| 09:21 | cait | nope |
| 09:24 | magnuse | "There is no saved search named 'FIXME NOW'. " |
| 09:24 | * magnuse | wanders off to breakfast |
| 09:24 | cait | breakfast, now? |
| 09:24 | :P | |
| 09:43 | rangi | does that search show now? |
| 09:44 | cait | no :( |
| 09:44 | really, bugzilla should make that easier | |
| 09:44 | * slef | wanders back from breakfast |
| 09:44 | cait | hi slef |
| 09:44 | slef | hi cait |
| 09:48 | mbalmer | hi slef... |
| 09:48 | see privmsg... | |
| 09:50 | slef | hi mbalmer, can't we talk about that in public? |
| 09:50 | mbalmer | sure. |
| 09:50 | I was asking slef about the availability of a vectorized Koha logo. | |
| 09:51 | slef | We will have one used on our banners and will publish it as soon as we've paid the designer. |
| 09:51 | I think there may be an earlier one around, used on Calyx's banner, but I need to email Irma to ask. | |
| 09:53 | I think it's worth having that on the record :) | |
| 09:53 | So we don't end up with maybe a third one being bought... | |
| 09:59 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #57: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/57/ |
| 09:59 | kyle: Bug 6141 - html glitches causing problems to translator - 3.8.x | |
| 09:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6141 minor, P3, ---, frederic, Pushed to Stable , html glitches causing problems to translator |
| 09:59 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #58 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:06 | slef | emailed Irma |
| 10:20 | mbalmer | thx! |
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| 10:48 | huginn | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127> |
| 10:50 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #58: SUCCESS in 50 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/58/ |
| 10:50 | Chris Cormack: First cut of the 3.8.2 release notes | |
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| 12:28 | drojf | ping dpavlin |
| 12:30 | slef | @seen dpavlin |
| 12:30 | huginn | slef: dpavlin was last seen in #koha 18 hours, 24 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: <dpavlin> drojf1: depending on arch a bit, but yes for 1 process. |
| 12:32 | cait | hi drojf :) |
| 12:32 | hi slef | |
| 12:32 | slef | err hello again cait |
| 12:33 | drojf | hi cait and slef |
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| 13:53 | jcamins_mib | cait++ # because in my little netsplit portion of the channel there is no one recording the karma I gave her earlier for testing |
| 13:53 | cait | oh? |
| 13:53 | thx :) | |
| 13:53 | still problems with your network? | |
| 13:53 | jcamins_mib | Nope. OFTC this time. |
| 13:54 | gmcharlt, cjh, me, and jeff are all by ourselves. | |
| 13:56 | cait | interesting |
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| 13:57 | * jcamins_away | figures out how to reconnect to the non-split server. |
| 14:02 | jcamins_away | magnuse: FWIW, I'm not considering 3.8 until 3.8.4. |
| 14:03 | Those features I require are backported to 3.6.x. | |
| 14:03 | cait | :) |
| 14:03 | yeah, we will go with 3.6.x for now | |
| 14:03 | until 3.8 is more stable in circ | |
| 14:10 | neo__ | hi |
| 14:11 | i am trying to install koha-3.8.1 | |
| 14:11 | while running perl Makefile.PL , i am getting one error | |
| 14:11 | unable to locate Koha configuration file koha-conf.xml at /usr/local/src/koha-3.8.1/C4/Context.pm line 360. | |
| 14:11 | any idea ? | |
| 14:16 | cait | hm |
| 14:16 | are you trying to update or trying to do a new installation? | |
| 14:19 | jcamins_away | neo__: you can ignore that error if you are doing a new installation. |
| 14:20 | cait | jcamins++ :) |
| 14:20 | neo__ | yes, i am doing a new installation |
| 14:20 | jcamins_away | That reminds me. |
| 14:20 | I need to report a bug on how C4::Context handles itself. | |
| 14:20 | neo__ | ok |
| 14:21 | but in my test machine there is no error like this , now i am doing in a production machine | |
| 14:27 | jcamins_away | neo__: that's because you already installed Koha once? |
| 14:27 | (on the test machine) | |
| 14:28 | neo__ | yes, jcamins_away , i did it several times , by removing and dropping the database |
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| 14:29 | jcamins_away | neo__: yes, the *very* first time you installed Koha, you would've gotten that error message. |
| 14:29 | It's completely harmless. | |
| 14:30 | neo__ | ohh... cool , |
| 14:30 | thanks... jcamins_away | |
| 14:30 | jcamins_away | You're welcome. |
| 14:30 | Actually, I'm surprised this doesn't cause a problem for Plack. | |
| 14:31 | neo__ | ok |
| 14:31 | jcamins_away | neo__: you can ignore my musings on the subject. Everything will work fine for you. |
| 14:31 | neo__ | ok... , :) |
| 14:34 | * jcamins_away | is just contemplating the reasons underlying the error, and what they say about how things are done in Koha. |
| 14:34 | wonders whether Plack has access to anything more useful than environment variables. | |
| 14:34 | cait | hm |
| 14:35 | jcamins | A pity dpavlin isn't around. |
| 14:35 | cait | dpavlin |
| 14:35 | we can make his computer beep maybe :) | |
| 14:35 | jcamins | Other than, obviously, the fact that it's Sunday and he should go out and do something fun. |
| 14:35 | cait | I think you could drop him an email |
| 14:35 | is is most of time logged in, but doesn't check too often on the channel | |
| 14:35 | jcamins | Yes, but not knowing the right terms would make it a hard to understand e-mail. |
| 14:36 | "I was wondering whether Plack has a doohickey that would allow us to use set_context without a KOHA_CONF environment variable." | |
| 14:36 | cait | ask him to drop by sometimes to talk about...X? :) |
| 14:36 | huh? | |
| 14:39 | jcamins | That was my point. |
| 14:57 | drojf | jcamins: is there a gpg key for your 3.6 repository? |
| 15:00 | sorry, i'm just blind | |
| 15:00 | found it | |
| 15:31 | jcamins | drojf: also, eythian said the oldstable distribution on debian.k-c.org is suitable for production use now. |
| 15:37 | drojf | jcamins: i asked for my notes on the koha installation on raspberry pi where i used your repo. i should probably use oldstable for the wiki article then, but i dont know if there are the same problems that i had with 3.8 from k-c |
| 15:38 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 15:38 | There shouldn't be. | |
| 15:38 | The packages should be pretty much identical. | |
| 15:40 | drojf | ok |
| 15:59 | cait | grrrrrr. |
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| 16:21 | drojf | i probably missed some things that i did not wrote down but anyway http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_a_Raspberry_Pi |
| 16:21 | s/wrote/write | |
| 16:22 | slef | cait: /ctcp dpavlin PAGE ;-) |
| 16:25 | cait | hm? |
| 16:29 | drojf | cait: what are you angry about? |
| 16:29 | cait | bugs |
| 16:39 | * cait | files another bug report and sighs |
| 16:39 | cait | bug 8259 |
| 16:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8259 major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No longer possible to have multiple serial notices |
| 16:40 | cait | args. |
| 16:46 | ok | |
| 16:46 | mistested | |
| 16:46 | I should stop | |
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| 18:42 | jcamins | Quinoa cakes = inspired |
| 18:42 | cait | took apart my laptop and now I am missing one screw :( |
| 18:42 | like always | |
| 18:42 | grr. | |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Isn't it usually an *extra* screw? |
| 18:50 | drojf | that's ikea ;) |
| 18:50 | cait | heh |
| 18:50 | yeah, quite sure they tricked me somewhere | |
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| 19:31 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:32 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 19:33 | cait | morning :) |
| 19:35 | * jcamins | scratches his head and rereads the instructions for loading a bobbin into the sewing machine. |
| 19:35 | jcamins | Do they *try* to make it hard to understand? |
| 19:35 | cait | I don't even understand what you want to do |
| 19:35 | * jcamins | either! |
| 19:35 | jcamins | http://www.singerco.com/sewing[…]n-insert-top-load |
| 19:36 | rangi | I have a laurel for that |
| 19:36 | jcamins | cait: did you attach a patch to the wrong bug? 7392 vs 7302? |
| 19:36 | cait | wuit posible |
| 19:36 | I was missing one right now | |
| 19:36 | rangi | Hehe |
| 19:37 | The downside of git bz | |
| 19:37 | Very easy to do that | |
| 19:37 | cait | jcamins: thx :) |
| 19:37 | 7392 should have been 7302 | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | I did it! I think. |
| 19:40 | The bobbin is now in the sewing machine. | |
| 19:40 | * rangi | is hanging out for a flat white |
| 19:40 | cait | first queston |
| 19:40 | first question? | |
| 19:40 | oh | |
| 19:40 | first question? | |
| 19:40 | wahanui? | |
| 19:41 | seems we are missing a bot here | |
| 19:41 | jcamins: what are you trying to do? | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | He's probably still on the other server. |
| 19:41 | cait: fix the timing in this sewing machine. | |
| 19:42 | rangi | @later tell eythian can use restart wahanui please |
| 19:42 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:44 | rangi | I resized my linode to get more disk space which needed a reboot |
| 19:44 | New kernel too | |
| 19:46 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 19:46 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 10.0°C (7:00 AM NZST on June 18, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:46 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:46 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 20.1°C (9:45 PM CEST on June 17, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:46 | rangi | Nice day today |
| 19:49 | My stop bbiab | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Okay... when there's no cloth, the sewing machine seems to do fine. |
| 19:52 | It's hard to tell, because it's not like it's stitching anything. | |
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| 19:55 | jcamins | Okay, I managed to recreate the problem with the sewing machine turned off, and no fabric blocking my view. |
| 19:55 | This is good progress. :) | |
| 19:57 | rangi | back |
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| 19:58 | cait | morning kathryn |
| 19:59 | kathryn | good morning cait! |
| 19:59 | and hi all :) | |
| 19:59 | * jcamins | removes a piece from the sewing machine. |
| 20:00 | cait | be careful, don't loose any screws |
| 20:00 | rangi | heh |
| 20:05 | jcamins | cait: or end up with extras. |
| 20:06 | cait | heh |
| 20:06 | rangi | hmm lots to catch up on |
| 20:15 | * jcamins | reads about how sewing machines work. |
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| 20:16 | cait | jcamins: I guess there is no guarantee on it? |
| 20:17 | ok | |
| 20:17 | with indybranches | |
| 20:17 | I should not be able to make a basket belong to another branch.. right? | |
| 20:17 | jcamins | cait: nope. It's out of warrantee, and it breaks if Shari ever goes more than a week without using it. |
| 20:17 | That is correct. | |
| 20:17 | We'll be replacing it, I think. | |
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| 21:56 | wajasu | http://savage.net.au/Perl/html[…]or.beginners.html |
| 22:00 | jcamins | So when I have the tension high enough for the stitches to work, the thread gets caught underneath the feed dogs. |
| 22:04 | rangi | jcamins: oh speaking of Shari .. 184! http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0d677fe18da1#l612 |
| 22:05 | jcamins | Also, the tension does not appear to go up or down in any consistent way when I turn the tension dial. |
| 22:05 | rangi: yeah, I showed her. :) | |
| 22:06 | rangi | sweet :) |
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