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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:05 | BobB | @seen mtj |
| 00:05 | huginn` | BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 2 days, 18 hours, 25 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <mtj> pings ok, so just slow :) |
| 00:16 | rangi | afternoon |
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| 00:41 | mib_wz9t1u | wow, this is cool. i am looking for help installing koha on windows 7. i downloaded the .zip file, but am not sure which steps to take next |
| 00:44 | rangi | the windows version is really really really old, and totally unsupported |
| 00:45 | its probably best if you have to install it on windows to run it under vmware (or something similar) as a virtual machine | |
| 00:48 | mib_wz9t1u | ok, not sure what that is, perhaps too complicated for me. i also tried to install via ubuntu, but i know nothing about linux, so that proved to be too complicated for me as well. it looked liked via windows would be easier, with loss of functionality of z3950, but i was willing to forego, just to experiment |
| 00:49 | eythian | windows is not likely to be easier. |
| 00:50 | mib_wz9t1u | ok, well i appreciate the info, thank you |
| 00:50 | jcamins | Definitely won't be easier. |
| 00:50 | Much, much harder. | |
| 00:50 | Because no one will be able to help you at all. | |
| 00:52 | mib_wz9t1u | guess I'll just have to learn more about linux then |
| 00:54 | i was following the instructions on http://everydaytechy.blogspot.[…]n-ubuntu-910.html | |
| 00:54 | anyone know of anything better for a true beginner? | |
| 00:56 | jcamins | mib_wz9t1u: yes, follow the current instructions, not instructions that are several years old and for a different version of Koha. |
| 00:56 | packages? | |
| 00:56 | wahanui | packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 00:56 | jcamins | ^^ use that |
| 00:56 | rangi | mib_wz9t1u: the INSTALL.debian or INSTALL.ubuntu file that comes with koha, or using the packages |
| 00:57 | jcamins | Use the packages. |
| 00:57 | eythian | , luke. |
| 01:03 | mib_wz9t1u | ok, i looked at this page once, i will look again, i was not sure about debian vs. ubuntu at the time |
| 01:04 | thanks e1 | |
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| 05:25 | mib_cvo04c | Hey guys is there any word about getting a PDF version of the Koha manual? |
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| 05:54 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:54 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:54 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 06:07 | mib_cvo04c | Hey guys is there any word about getting a PDF version of the Koha manual? |
| 06:10 | I've tried making my own using the git source but it really doesn't look nice (layout/size of images is wrong - images dont even appear with docbook2pdf) | |
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| 06:50 | julian_m | hello |
| 06:50 | wahanui | hola, julian_m |
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| 07:11 | francharb | good moring |
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| 07:36 | * cait | waves |
| 07:37 | cait | no holiday in France today? |
| 07:38 | alex_a | cait: no :( |
| 07:38 | cait | oh :( |
| 07:38 | * cait | sends cookies |
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| 07:41 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7846 - get_batch_summary massive speedup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6fe369eb74366d131> / Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b0cd27efa5a0e3670> / Bug 7980: [SIGNED-OFF] Group search results tag input with other actions <http://git.koh |
| 07:47 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #735 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 07:48 | cait | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:49 | paul_p | hi cait ! |
| 07:49 | "semi-closed day" here in France today, half of BibLibre working, the other half not working | |
| 07:50 | * cait | is working on her distance study course... but would prefer to work on Koha |
| 08:02 | matts | it's a holiday in germany ? |
| 08:02 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:02 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 18.1°C (10:00 AM CEST on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:02 | cait | matts: yes |
| 08:02 | matts: not at work today, but back at work tomorrow | |
| 08:02 | matts | okay... Like it used to be for us... :\ |
| 08:03 | paul_p | recovering from too much drinking on sunday :D |
| 08:03 | cait | no drinking for me :) |
| 08:03 | but counting the days until KohaCon - when will Biblibre arrive in Edinburgh? | |
| 08:03 | paul_p | matts = in fact, today is a closed day again. Except you must work "for free" another day of the year, or dedicate a holiday day to fund the. |
| 08:04 | cait monday, 4PM | |
| 08:04 | cait | oh |
| 08:04 | I arrive like that too | |
| 08:04 | are you flying directly? | |
| 08:05 | 15:55 is my exact arrival time, zürich - amsterdam - edinburgh | |
| 08:05 | paul_p | 12:00 |
| 08:05 | Marseille, Provence (MRS) - France - Terminal 3 | |
| 08:05 | ||
| 08:05 | 14:00 | |
| 08:05 | Amsterdam, Schiphol (AMS) - Pays Bas | |
| 08:05 | 15:30 | |
| 08:05 | Amsterdam, Schiphol (AMS) - Pays Bas | |
| 08:05 | ||
| 08:05 | cait | lol |
| 08:05 | paul_p | 15:55 |
| 08:05 | Edimbourg, Edinburgh (EDI) - Royaume Uni | |
| 08:05 | cait | I think we are on the same flight from amsterdam! |
| 08:05 | paul_p | yep ! |
| 08:05 | cait | nice :) |
| 08:06 | matts | my flight is a lot later... |
| 08:06 | cait | rangi and eythian are arriving later that day too |
| 08:07 | paul_p | really ? they arrive from NZ just 1 day before the conf ? wow, they'll be dramatically jetlagged ! |
| 08:07 | cait | I hope they will get some sleep on the planes |
| 08:07 | they arrive around 4 hours later than we do | |
| 08:08 | which hotel are you staying at? mine is Cairn | |
| 08:09 | paul_p | cait StayEdinburgh - West End Apartments |
| 08:09 | 11 Brandfield Street Haymarket | |
| 08:09 | Edinburgh | |
| 08:09 | wahanui | hmmm... Edinburgh is for sure now |
| 08:09 | cait | we started a little table here (bottom of the page) http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aCon12_Volunteers |
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| 08:11 | cait | hi BobB :) |
| 08:11 | we were just discussing arrival times and hotels in Edinburgh - you and Irma will be there too, right? | |
| 08:11 | BobB | hi cait :) |
| 08:12 | yes we'll be there. We're arriving on Tuesday morning - just in time! | |
| 08:12 | Staying at Edinburgh City Hotel, not too far from the venue we think. | |
| 08:12 | cait | BobB: we started a little table here to help people meeting up: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]aCon12_Volunteers |
| 08:12 | paul_p | cait page filled for us |
| 08:12 | BobB | cool, I'll check it out. |
| 08:12 | cait | cool :) |
| 08:13 | looking forward to see you all in person again :) | |
| 08:13 | and hopefully finish this course in time..., so can go back to concentrate on Koha things more | |
| 08:13 | BobB | See you there! Will be great to catch up again. |
| 08:13 | cait | the deadline is right after kohacon |
| 08:18 | * cait | will stop complaining now and goes back to reading |
| 08:26 | cait | @quote random |
| 08:26 | huginn` | cait: Quote #162: "oleonard: I think DRM is inherently incompatible with any lending system which will be friendly to patrons." (added by wizzyrea at 04:03 PM, October 28, 2011) |
| 08:26 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn`. |
| 08:27 | libttc joined #koha | |
| 08:28 | libttc | hi wondering if anyone is aware of how to get koha backup on things such as the catalog |
| 08:35 | cait | first question? |
| 08:35 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 08:36 | cait | libttc: if you want to do backups for your installation you can dump the database - it has all information and you can rebuild the zebra indexes. If you have local changes, you might want to backup more files. |
| 08:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #735: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/735/ |
| 08:41 | * oleonard: Bug 8124 - Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report | |
| 08:41 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer | |
| 08:41 | * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref | |
| 08:41 | * paul.poulain: Bug 5795 follow-up, DBRev number | |
| 08:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8124 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report |
| 08:41 | jenkins_koha | * stephane.delaune: Bug 8040: bad name in acquisitions-menu |
| 08:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7889 - Use standard style for errors and messages | |
| 08:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Authorities duplicates] Use standard style for errors and messages | |
| 08:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Search errors] Use standard style for errors and messages | |
| 08:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7889 [Acquisitions] Use standard style for errors and messages | |
| 08:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer |
| 08:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8040 minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , a menu misnamed in budgets | |
| 08:41 | jenkins_koha | * ruth: Bug 8009: Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl |
| 08:41 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8009: Followup Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl | |
| 08:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7889 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Use standard style for errors and messages |
| 08:42 | jenkins_koha | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [4] |
| 08:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8009 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , Item descriptive data not populated on pay.pl |
| 08:42 | jenkins_koha | * jonathan.druart: Bug 5345: DataTables integration in acquisition module [4] |
| 08:42 | * oleonard: Bug 8107 - Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons | |
| 08:42 | * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron | |
| 08:42 | * oleonard: Bug 7980: [SIGNED-OFF] Group search results tag input with other actions | |
| 08:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , DataTables in Koha |
| 08:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. | |
| 08:42 | jenkins_koha | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group |
| 08:42 | * dpavlin: Bug 7846 - get_batch_summary massive speedup | |
| 08:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron |
| 08:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7980 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Group search results tag input with other actions | |
| 08:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Acq search results show empty parenthesis for orders without basket group | |
| 08:42 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , get_batch_summary reimplements GROUP BY in perl code | |
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| 08:51 | Oak | \o |
| 08:51 | davidnind++ | |
| 08:51 | cait | hi Oak |
| 08:51 | Oak | hello cait :) |
| 08:52 | time to head to office ? | |
| 08:52 | cait | holiday here today - working on my homework |
| 08:52 | Oak | good |
| 08:54 | homework or assignments? | |
| 08:54 | ;) | |
| 08:54 | cait | hm, what's the difference? |
| 08:54 | Oak | when we were in school, we were given homework by our teachers. |
| 08:55 | when we are in college, university, we are given assignments by professors | |
| 08:55 | just kidding of course | |
| 08:55 | cait | :) |
| 08:55 | Oak | i'm not that funny any more |
| 08:55 | slef | Oak: who gave you assignations? |
| 08:55 | cait | hi slef |
| 08:55 | :) | |
| 08:55 | * Oak | googles assignations |
| 08:55 | slef | hi cait |
| 08:56 | Oak | hello slef |
| 08:56 | Assignations: "An appointment to meet someone in secret, typically one made by lovers." | |
| 08:56 | hmmm | |
| 08:56 | now *that* is funny. | |
| 08:56 | libttc | well there is the need to backup all the catalog information just in case things do not go as expected |
| 08:57 | cait | libttc: did you see what I wrote earlier? about dumping the database? |
| 08:57 | libttc | is there a way of backing up the data in the catalog? |
| 08:57 | Oak | @seen oleanard |
| 08:57 | huginn` | Oak: I have not seen oleanard. |
| 08:58 | Oak | @seen oleonard |
| 08:58 | huginn` | Oak: oleonard was last seen in #koha 2 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <oleonard> Have a good weekend everyone |
| 08:59 | libttc | yes i have tried the dumping but i noticed that it is only getting the database structure and the main settings, not the data in the db as in stuff such as books entered. |
| 08:59 | slef | libttc: the books should be in the biblio, items and biblioitems tables. |
| 08:59 | cait_afk | if you do a correct dump, all data will be in there |
| 08:59 | not only the structure | |
| 09:00 | now really afk :) | |
| 09:08 | libttc | thanks . it worked |
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| 09:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #27 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 10:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #27: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/27/ |
| 10:39 | oleonard: Bug 8124 - Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report | |
| 10:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8124 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Hide option to download results of items with no checkouts report |
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| 10:41 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #28 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 11:34 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #28: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/28/ |
| 11:34 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5795 [SIGNED-OFF] - Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer | |
| 11:34 | * amit.gupta: Bug 5795 Update the database as follow-up If sys pref | |
| 11:34 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 5795 : Updating version number | |
| 11:34 | * stephane.delaune: Bug 8040: bad name in acquisitions-menu | |
| 11:34 | * oleonard: Bug 8107 - Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons | |
| 11:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5795 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Missing ReservesControlBranch system pref in database installer |
| 11:34 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 8080 - login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron |
| 11:34 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7926: Acq search results show empty () for orders without basket group | |
| 11:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8040 minor, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Stable , a menu misnamed in budgets |
| 11:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8107 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Disabled buttons not distinguishable from enabled buttons. | |
| 11:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8080 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , login and password is pre-filled by the browser when creating a new patron | |
| 11:34 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7926 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Acq search results show empty parenthesis for orders without basket group | |
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| 12:02 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #736 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 12:05 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4ebbece18c75d12b1> / Bug 7792 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c0916486f1c9cfc7a> / Bug 7792:redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]mitdiff;h=838269d |
| 12:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #29 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 13:05 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #736: SUCCESS in 1 hr 3 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/736/ |
| 13:05 | * oleonard: ug 8078 [REVISED] my summary showing contents of incorrect tab | |
| 13:05 | * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove | |
| 13:05 | * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! | |
| 13:05 | * oleonard: Bug 8014 - On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked | |
| 13:05 | * stephane.delaune: Bug 7794:redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions | |
| 13:05 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7794: follow-up DBRev number + removing UNIQUE index that is now useless | |
| 13:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets |
| 13:05 | jenkins_koha | * paul.poulain: Bug 7792:redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches |
| 13:05 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7792 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 13:05 | * srdjan: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls | |
| 13:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked |
| 13:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions | |
| 13:05 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7792 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Passed QA , redefine the field branchcode as PRIMARY KEY of branches | |
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| 13:09 | Barrc | Is there anyone around driving to Kohacon? just wondering about parking? |
| 13:10 | jcamins_away | Barrc: parking is going to be very unpleasant. |
| 13:10 | Barrc | uh oh....... |
| 13:10 | jcamins | I won't be there, but the location where it is has very little parking. |
| 13:10 | Barrc | why? is there nowhere near the university for driving folk? |
| 13:12 | jcamins | I'm pretty sure the lot near Teviot isn't open to the public. |
| 13:13 | Barrc | Thanks - that puts me in a ticky spot so!!, I'll need to park and ride somewhere so! |
| 13:18 | cait_afk | perhaps there are park and ride options? |
| 13:18 | Barrc: where are you from? | |
| 13:18 | jcamins | Barrc: how far are you willing to walk? |
| 13:19 | I'm operating under the assumption that the reason you're planning on driving is that mobility is a challenge. | |
| 13:20 | There's parking at Buccleuch (sp?) which was open to the public. | |
| 13:21 | You should also check with mle. It could be that he's able to get you a parking permit. | |
| 13:21 | I am basing my information on what I saw from being a student. | |
| 13:21 | cait_afk | mle_ or slef might know |
| 13:30 | Barrc | Thanks - I was just thrawling through maps trying to find a close one - £29 per day is fairly steep too! |
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| 13:46 | jcamins | paul_p: do you know how to add dependencies? |
| 13:46 | That's why I didn't do it before... I have no idea where to add them. | |
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| 13:47 | paul_p | hi jcamins. I'm digging, but not sure I know (maybe something for a new wiki page ;-) ) |
| 13:47 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #29: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/29/ |
| 13:47 | * simon.story: Bug 6684: Fixes to koha-remove | |
| 13:47 | * paul.poulain: Welcome to the 182th commiter ! | |
| 13:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6684 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , koha-remove should check the number of arguments it gets |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Ooh, chris_n did it for 7977. |
| 13:47 | I'll just copy his code. :) | |
| 13:47 | cait_afk | :) |
| 13:47 | was about to point you to that bug :) | |
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| 13:48 | paul_p | jcamins = C4::Installer::PerlDependancies.pm |
| 13:48 | jcamins | Are these in any order at all? |
| 13:48 | cait_afk | we should perhaps also add to the wiki a note about creating new directories |
| 13:49 | * paul_p | feel no... |
| 13:49 | cait_afk | and the need to adjust the installer scripts for those |
| 13:49 | paul_p | (I mean no order at all) |
| 13:49 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, that's my impression as well. |
| 13:49 | paul_p | jcamins = about Caching, no code is really using Koha::Cache for now, right ? |
| 13:49 | (except svc/report) | |
| 13:50 | jcamins | paul_p: just the report webservices. |
| 13:50 | paul_p | OK, so I should not investigate more for benchmarking performance changes ;-) |
| 13:50 | jcamins | paul_p: I had a sample patch to add more caching elsewhere. |
| 13:50 | cait_afk | oh, wasn't there one for system preferences? |
| 13:51 | jcamins | Once CHI is in, we can change the way we do the syspref cache, which should result in a *huge* performance improvement. |
| 13:51 | cait_afk | nice :) |
| 13:51 | jcamins | cait_afk: it wasn't using Koha::Cache. |
| 13:51 | cait_afk | i see |
| 13:51 | jcamins | cait_afk: in fact, I prefer not to think about how it worked at all. |
| 13:51 | Too embarassing. | |
| 13:51 | ;) | |
| 13:51 | cait_afk | heh |
| 13:51 | I am pretty sure it was a lot better than with whatever i could come up with | |
| 13:52 | jcamins | cait_afk: I don't think so. |
| 13:52 | CHI would allow us to use a fastmmap cache for sysprefs. | |
| 13:52 | (= win!) | |
| 13:52 | cait_afk | see, I have no idea what that is |
| 13:52 | but I believe in the win part | |
| 13:52 | slef | jcamins: cait_afk: thanks for handling that. There are NCP or private car parks available nearby, but £16/day seemed about average. I'm intending to leave th car parked at my hotel and walk in as much as possible. Alternative approach http://www.moneysavingexpert.c[…]king-rental#cheap |
| 13:53 | * chris_n | fesses up to being the creator of the dep related code |
| 13:53 | chris_n | jcamins^^ |
| 13:53 | jcamins | chris_n: in that case I guess I can be certain you did it right. :) |
| 13:53 | cait_afk | :) |
| 13:53 | slef | wahanui: kohacon? |
| 13:53 | wahanui | slef: i haven't a clue |
| 13:53 | slef | wahanui: kohacon12? |
| 13:53 | wahanui | kohacon12 is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ategory:KohaCon12 or Conference Tue 5 June 2012 to Thu 7th, Hackfest Sat 9th June-Mon 11th June |
| 13:53 | * slef | adds it to the summary |
| 13:54 | chris_n | jcamins: however, the docs for it stink :-) |
| 13:55 | mle_ | Barrc: the closest parking is at george square. |
| 13:55 | slef | mle_: Barrc has gone. |
| 13:55 | mle_ | do I need to chase disabled parking permit? |
| 13:55 | slef | mle_: but I'll note it. |
| 13:56 | mle_: do you know who operates George Square? | |
| 13:56 | mle_ | iirc george square is pay and display |
| 13:56 | i can check | |
| 13:58 | slef | mle_: ok. Let us or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n=edit§ion=10 know when you have. |
| 13:58 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on12_Summary#Cars | |
| 13:58 | * chris_n | has a ubuntu server who's nic just goes south with random regularity and the logs are *not* helpful >:-( |
| 13:58 | slef | chris_n: we had a debian doing that a while ago. Kernel upgrade seems to have cured it. |
| 13:59 | chris_n | thanks slef, I'll take a look that direction |
| 13:59 | slef | chris_n: running a slow ping from the server helped a bit, but didn't avoid the stalls. |
| 13:59 | cait_afk | paul_p++ for being busy :) |
| 13:59 | slef | chris_n: have you noticed if the system clock stopped? We had one doing that too but I don't remember if it was the one with the dud NIC |
| 14:00 | chris_n | slef: I've not noticed that |
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| 14:00 | cait_afk | hi oak |
| 14:00 | Oak | guten abend cait_afk :) |
| 14:00 | paul_p | jcamins = agreed that the next step must be to cache sysprefs |
| 14:01 | jcamins | Argh! |
| 14:01 | paul_p | (should reduce sql queries by 80 for each page ;-) |
| 14:01 | jcamins | When I messed up CPAN yesterday I appear to have uninstalled caching. |
| 14:01 | * cait_afk | send jcamins cookies |
| 14:02 | * chris_n | hands jcamins fresh chocolate-chip oatmeal cookies to eat while he re-installs caching :) |
| 14:02 | chris_n | opps |
| 14:02 | cait_afk: snap ;-) | |
| 14:03 | cait_afk | double load of cookies - I am sure that will help :) |
| 14:03 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:04 | dh-make-perl++ | |
| 14:08 | paul_p: follow-up attached. | |
| 14:08 | paul_p | jcamins great, thx |
| 14:09 | jcamins | paul_p: and note that CHI *is* optional. |
| 14:09 | If you don't have CHI, the only caching available will be memcached, which is the same as the situation right now. | |
| 14:10 | (I marked it as optional in the dependencies... I'm just pointing this out to you) | |
| 14:10 | I'm going to upload all the Koha dependencies to my apt repo. | |
| 14:16 | * chris_n | believes the current privacy thread is important |
| 14:16 | jcamins | Uh-oh. |
| 14:17 | I think I just inadvertantly uploaded the package to Debian. | |
| 14:17 | Not sure how that's possible. | |
| 14:40 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6858' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f1fd4b16e04d32ae1> / Bug 6858: Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3374e5bd0a4861c33> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8150' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.gi |
| 14:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #737 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:09 | jcamins | mtj++ |
| 15:16 | mtj | woah, nice! -> http://www.librarytechnology.o[…]ytext.pl?RC=16877 |
| 15:17 | now that's what i call a press-release :p | |
| 15:17 | cait_afk | :) |
| 15:17 | seems we are getting better at that :) | |
| 15:17 | mtj++ go to sleep! | |
| 15:18 | mtj | i've been to sleep already - i just got up :) |
| 15:18 | jcamins | mtj: you just got up? |
| 15:18 | Isn't it 3am or so? | |
| 15:18 | cait_afk | it's 3 am |
| 15:19 | for you | |
| 15:19 | !! | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | T::T++ |
| 15:21 | cait_afk | tinkk... *sigh* |
| 15:21 | mtj | cait_afk: i am planning to take some days off later this week, so i finish that work now, . :) |
| 15:21 | cait_afk | I hate typos in mailing list mails |
| 15:22 | mtj | "Koha 3.8.0 contains over 130 enhancements with over 1000 changesets from 71 developers. Please read the release notes below the fold for more information." |
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| 15:22 | cait_afk | mtj: hm I should not complain - as you did qa on dom indexing at this weird time :) |
| 15:22 | mtj | ^^ that is awesome |
| 15:23 | cait_afk | because Koha IS awesome :) |
| 15:23 | Koha++ :) | |
| 15:23 | community++ | |
| 15:23 | @karma community | |
| 15:23 | huginn` | cait_afk: Karma for "community" has been increased 11 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 10. |
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| 15:41 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #737: SUCCESS in 54 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/737/ |
| 15:41 | * oleonard: Bug 8095 - Printed lists in the OPAC not easy to read | |
| 15:41 | * oleonard: Bug 8122 - Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message | |
| 15:41 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 8122 - Followup Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message | |
| 15:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7959 - Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists | |
| 15:41 | * oleonard: Bug 7959 - Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists | |
| 15:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8095 major, P2, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Printed lists in the OPAC not easy to read |
| 15:41 | jenkins_koha | * colin.campbell: Bug 8150 [SIGNED-OFF]Â Remove obsoleted navigation bar in circ history |
| 15:41 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 6858: Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing | |
| 15:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8122 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Add a link to new library group creation from empty groups message |
| 15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7959 enhancement, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Update OPAC suggestions interface to match lists | |
| 15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8150 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Patron circulation history has a fossil navagation bar | |
| 15:41 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 normal, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing | |
| 15:52 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e8e96ba68cde52d7a> / Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a009cb941614b1e8a> / Bug 8145 - [SIGNED-OFF] opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.g | |
| 15:54 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127> | |
| 16:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #738 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 16:02 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6e0917176bafe8376> / Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7e209f0964494e2f1> / Bug 4330 : Last of the opac files with wrong FSF address <http://git.koha-community. |
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| 16:14 | vfernandes | hi guys... |
| 16:17 | chris_n | jcamins++ #for your sandbox extension ideas |
| 16:17 | that would dramatically lower the entry level for bug signoff | |
| 16:17 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah. |
| 16:20 | paul_p | chris_n = that would, but only once the new DB update system is live. Otherwise, many "patch does not apply" will reduce the signoff possibilities |
| 16:20 | guys & women, I've pushed the passed QA pile, and QAed most of patches needing QA (except a few very large one & 3 BibLibre ones), it's time to go back home for me !!! | |
| 16:20 | jcamins | paul_p: right now it's not really possible to try testing a new indexing configuration. |
| 16:20 | As I understand. | |
| 16:21 | paul_p | jcamins you're right. |
| 16:21 | jcamins | I think we could fix that. |
| 16:21 | cait_afk | paul_p: have a nice evening :) |
| 16:21 | paul_p | (and that will be *very* tricky to change that I fear !) |
| 16:21 | jcamins | Even cooler would be setting it up so that we could test it in parallel: old configuration and new configuration. |
| 16:21 | It will be tricky, but not impossible. :) | |
| 16:21 | I learned how to do it for testing the UNIMARC DOM indexing. | |
| 16:21 | cait_afk | nothing really is impossible... right? :) |
| 16:22 | jcamins | paul_p: bug 7818 just passed QA. :) |
| 16:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 16:22 | paul_p | jcamins = for testing in // you can always go to sandbox.pl, enter bug "master", no change in the DB, and you've got master ! |
| 16:22 | vfernandes | can anyone help me with one authority question? |
| 16:22 | paul_p | jcamins yes, i've seen, but it's a little too large for playing with it at 6:30 PM... |
| 16:22 | jcamins | paul_p: ah, well, that simplifies my task. |
| 16:22 | :) | |
| 16:23 | cait_afk | paul_p: go! :) |
| 16:23 | jcamins | vfernandes: you can ask. |
| 16:23 | paul_p: agreed. | |
| 16:23 | Go home. | |
| 16:23 | Push 7818 tomorrow. :D | |
| 16:23 | chris_n | paul_p++ #for lots of work today |
| 16:23 | cait_afk | paul_p++ |
| 16:23 | vfernandes | i have the 225$a subfield controlled by authority.... the cataloguing works fine and appears the link to the authority in the MARC detail backoffice page |
| 16:23 | jcamins | paul_p++ |
| 16:24 | chris_n | jcamins? |
| 16:24 | wahanui | somebody said jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
| 16:24 | jcamins | chris_n: yes? |
| 16:24 | chris_n | wahanui: jcamins is also an authorities expert |
| 16:24 | wahanui | okay, chris_n. |
| 16:24 | chris_n | jcamins? |
| 16:24 | wahanui | hmmm... jcamins is an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or an authorities expert |
| 16:24 | vfernandes | the problem is that when I enter in the authority it has 0 connections/uses |
| 16:24 | chris_n | hehe |
| 16:24 | cait_afk | vfernandes: did you add a $9 field? |
| 16:24 | to the framework? | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | vfernandes: the used by is pretty inaccurate. |
| 16:25 | vfernandes | yes! |
| 16:25 | cait_afk | and are you indexing your authorities? |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Especially for UNIMARC. |
| 16:25 | It will be better after DOM. | |
| 16:25 | vfernandes | the authorities are being indexed because I can access them |
| 16:25 | cait_afk | hm |
| 16:25 | I hope jcamins will know then :) | |
| 16:25 | vfernandes | i'm using GRS1 |
| 16:25 | jcamins | The problem is with bib indexing. |
| 16:25 | * cait_afk | goes back to reading her accounting book |
| 16:26 | cait_afk | bbl :) |
| 16:26 | jcamins | You'll pretty much just have to deal with the "Used in" count being wrong. |
| 16:26 | It almost always is. | |
| 16:26 | vfernandes | I need to add an index on record.abs? |
| 16:26 | jcamins | Or you could do that. |
| 16:26 | Yes. | |
| 16:26 | 225$9 probably isn't indexed as an authid. | |
| 16:28 | vfernandes | Koha-Auth-Number,Koha-Auth-Number:n |
| 16:28 | I think that's it :) let me try | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | That sounds right, I think. |
| 16:29 | vfernandes | reindexing now... |
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| 16:37 | vfernandes | it worked :) |
| 16:38 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 16:38 | techbee | hello all , i have installed koha 3.8 successfully on debain system , but it seems opening maintenance page on startup |
| 16:39 | have set serverName directive to hostname but still same results , not sure what's happening here | |
| 16:40 | jcamins | techbee: you have to log into the staff client. |
| 16:40 | It will take you through the web installer. | |
| 16:41 | vfernandes | thanks jcamins and cait :) |
| 16:42 | techbee | any alternative to staff client |
| 16:42 | jcamins | techbee: no. |
| 16:43 | techbee: you have to configure the system before you can use the OPAC. | |
| 16:43 | There's no way around that. You won't be able to do anything with Koha if you don't put any data in it. | |
| 16:46 | techbee | i m kinda newbie not sure if i understand the issue |
| 16:46 | jcamins | techbee: you have to configure your system. |
| 16:46 | Let me find the newbie guide. | |
| 16:46 | techbee | thanks jcamins |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Newbie guide? |
| 16:47 | wahanui | Newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide |
| 16:47 | jcamins | ^^ there you are. |
| 16:47 | techbee | thanks for your help jcamins |
| 16:47 | jcamins | Good luck. |
| 16:51 | techbee | doesn't seems details about installation |
| 16:52 | i am yet to reach point to connect to koha web admin interface | |
| 16:53 | vfernandes | jcamins are you using UNIMARC? |
| 16:53 | jcamins | techbee: right, you have to do that in order to get the "System maintenance" page on the OPAC to go away. |
| 16:53 | vfernandes: nope. | |
| 16:53 | vfernandes: I know nothing about UNIMARC. | |
| 16:53 | vfernandes | ok :) |
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| 16:54 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #738: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/738/ |
| 16:54 | * mtj: Bug 8145 - [SIGNED-OFF] opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set | |
| 16:54 | * paul.poulain: Bug 8144 - 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue | |
| 16:54 | * oleonard: Bug 7127 - Templates must be valid XHTML | |
| 16:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers | |
| 16:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright statements | |
| 16:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 Fixing FSF statements | |
| 16:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding missing license statement | |
| 16:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8145 major, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to Master , opac-tags.pl fails when DEBUG is set |
| 16:54 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Last of the opac files with wrong FSF address |
| 16:54 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Fixing FSF address and copyright headers for acqui/ | |
| 16:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue |
| 16:55 | jenkins_koha | * Chris Cormack: Bug 4330 : Adding copyright headers and fixing FSF addresses |
| 16:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Templates must be valid XHTML |
| 16:55 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Copyright statements out of date | |
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| 18:16 | alaquerre | Hi everyone. General question. We curently do have a lot of "local" changes and I am wondering what is the best way to do version upgrade? Should we do : 3.6.0 --> 3.8.1 ? Or 3.6.0 --> 3.6.5 --> 3.8.1 ? |
| 18:16 | jcamins | alaquerre: it doesn't matter. |
| 18:16 | Upgrading is going to be staggeringly painful regardless. | |
| 18:16 | Going from 3.6.0-3.8.1 will be faster, though. | |
| 18:17 | alaquerre | ok that's was my question ;-) then ... |
| 18:17 | jcamins | alaquerre: usually upgrades aren't painful, of course, but with all your customizations, you're going to basically be redoing everything you did when you first moved to Koha. |
| 18:18 | This is why "waiting until it's ready" is always a bad idea. | |
| 18:18 | Either get it ready immediately, or do without significant local changes, is my philosophy. | |
| 18:20 | alaquerre | We want to push 80% of our local change to the community and then start to be "very clean"... |
| 18:21 | We hope that some of our upgrade will be taken into consideration. | |
| 18:21 | jcamins | alaquerre: if you contribute code (and respond to feedback), anything others find useful will make it into Koha. |
| 18:22 | alaquerre | okay thanks again jcamins! |
| 18:22 | jcamins | (but remember it won't be incorporated into a release until 3.10 at the earliest) |
| 18:23 | alaquerre | I know :-) That's why we will start doing quick release cycle... Doing the initial migration, we try to fix everything quickly without sharing it since it's was time consumming... But I find it much more time consuming now ... |
| 18:24 | jcamins | Yup. And it'll only get worse and worse. |
| 18:24 | alaquerre | So you should see couple of new fix/feature from Libeo sponsored by CCSR... |
| 18:24 | Thanks again. | |
| 18:24 | jcamins | There are a couple waiting for feedback from Libeo. |
| 18:25 | alaquerre | Okay I will do the follow up with them :-) |
| 18:42 | Oak | jcamins, can we install 3.6.5 on Debian using a command like apt-get install koha-common? <-- that will install 3.8.1, but what if we want to install 3.6.5 with all the dependencies? |
| 18:45 | cait_afk | Oak: not sure |
| 18:45 | Oak | cait_afk, okay :) |
| 18:45 | cait_afk | hm I think perhaps the source looks a bit different then? that you add to your list? |
| 18:45 | jcamins might know | |
| 18:45 | Oak | i forgot what afk means... |
| 18:45 | cait_afk | away from keyboad :P |
| 18:45 | Oak | ah yes! |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Oak: at present, you have to use my apt repo to do that. |
| 18:46 | Oak | jcamins, how can we do that? |
| 18:46 | a wiki page? | |
| 18:46 | jcamins | eythian will be adding an oldstable pouch to debian.koha-community.org, but right now you need to use a different repo. |
| 18:47 | Add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list: | |
| 18:47 | http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x | |
| 18:47 | Oops. | |
| 18:47 | deb http://apt.cpbibliography.com/koha 3.6.x | |
| 18:47 | Oak | cool |
| 18:47 | thank you! | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Then do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install koha-common |
| 18:47 | Oh. | |
| 18:48 | You'll need to remove the debian.koha-community.org source, or it will think that 3.8.1 is newer than 3.6.5. | |
| 18:48 | Oak | okay got it |
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| 18:52 | Oak | okay guys me go now. sleep time. |
| 18:52 | later. | |
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| 19:07 | chris_n | here we go... :-P |
| 19:08 | @wunder 28334 | |
| 19:08 | huginn` | chris_n: The current temperature in Dunn, North Carolina is 25.6°C (3:03 PM EDT on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 60%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:08 | chris_n | t'storm city |
| 19:09 | * cait_afk | waves |
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| 19:33 | mbalmer | evening |
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| 19:50 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 19:50 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.9°C (9:50 PM CEST on May 28, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 20:00 | rangi | Morning |
| 20:04 | cait | good morning rangi :) |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 20:06 | wahanui | i guess morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 20:10 | rangi | Brb |
| 20:16 | back | |
| 20:26 | chris_n | did Koha::Template::Plugin::Combine not make it into 3.8.x? |
| 20:26 | rangi | i havent seen it |
| 20:27 | is it in master? | |
| 20:27 | chris_n | I saw it mentioned on the wiki and assumed it was |
| 20:27 | jcamins | I've never even heard of it. |
| 20:27 | What does it do? | |
| 20:27 | chris_n | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]::Plugin::Combine |
| 20:27 | in response to bug 1918 | |
| 20:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, dpavlin, In Discussion , Minify JavaScript and CSS |
| 20:28 | rangi | ahh thats something dobrica was working on, afaik no, not in master yet |
| 20:28 | tis a nice idea tho | |
| 20:28 | chris_n | oops |
| 20:28 | there it is | |
| 20:28 | * chris_n | considers putting it in production |
| 20:29 | cait | why is it in dicussion? |
| 20:29 | rangi | caveat emptor |
| 20:29 | cait | ? |
| 20:29 | rangi | dunno |
| 20:30 | i just fixed that | |
| 20:30 | chris_n | cait: basically rendered: let the buyer beware |
| 20:30 | rangi | (the in discussion thing) |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Oh, this isn't such a good idea. |
| 20:30 | DBD::Gofer. | |
| 20:31 | * cait | blames accounting for her confused state of mind |
| 20:32 | jcamins | Well, I guess DBD::Gofer is a good idea when you are RAM rich and processor poor. |
| 20:32 | chris_n | ouch |
| 20:32 | 36 requests ❘ 123.05KB transferred ❘ 14.21s (onload: 14.21s, DOMContentLoaded: 13.96s) | |
| 20:32 | jcamins | But I'd rather do proper caching in Koha. |
| 20:33 | chris_n | load addbooks.pl?q=history |
| 20:33 | * chris_n | wonders what's wrong |
| 20:33 | jcamins | chris_n: do you use NYTProf? |
| 20:33 | chris_n | not atm |
| 20:33 | jcamins | You should. |
| 20:34 | Makes it easy for you to see what happened when you get something like that. | |
| 20:34 | rangi | ohh all my 4330 got pushed yay, one step closer to being in debian proper, i still have about 100 files to fix copyright headers on, but getting there |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Requires two lines: |
| 20:34 | SetEnv NYTPROF "file=/tmp/nytprof.out" | |
| 20:34 | SetEnv PERL5OPT "-d:NYTProf" | |
| 20:35 | If you want to automatically put it in a subdir, you can also add: Alias /nytprof/ "/tmp/nytprof/" | |
| 20:35 | Then when you're testing something and run into a problem, you can just run: cd /tmp && nytprofhtml | |
| 20:35 | chris_n | so does it generate html output or text or? |
| 20:36 | jcamins | nytprofhtml turns the log into HTML. |
| 20:36 | chris_n | cool |
| 20:36 | jcamins | That's how I figured out that SearchAuthorities was broken. |
| 20:40 | chris_n | jcamins: is stuff like "No file line range data for sub foo" commong? |
| 20:40 | common even | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, it has something to do with autoload. |
| 20:41 | chris_n | k... its processing the log file now |
| 20:41 | jcamins | My rule of thumb is that anything getting loaded in a compiled form is something I don't have any control over anyway. |
| 20:44 | chris_n | hmm |
| 20:44 | seems to be hung up | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | chris_n: it can take a *loong* time. |
| 20:44 | chris_n | ahh |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Depends how much code was run. |
| 20:46 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #30 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 20:47 | chris_n | jcamins: so I end up with a directory full of html files |
| 20:47 | and get koha 404 messages when attempting to access them.... :-( | |
| 20:48 | jcamins | chris_n: and you added the alias? |
| 20:48 | chris_n | yes, and can browse the directory |
| 20:48 | jcamins | That's weird! |
| 20:48 | chris_n | om |
| 20:48 | I ran it as root | |
| 20:48 | is that bad? | |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 20:49 | I always run it as my Koha user. | |
| 20:49 | chris_n | no joy |
| 20:49 | chown to www-data did not help | |
| 20:50 | ahh | |
| 20:50 | rangi | bug 7794 |
| 20:50 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7794 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , redefine the field id as PRIMARY KEY of sessions |
| 20:51 | rangi | im leaning towards holding that over to 3.10 |
| 20:51 | chris_n | jcamins: trailing slash gotcha |
| 20:51 | jcamins | chris_n: ah, yeah, that'll do it. |
| 20:51 | rangi: makes sense to me. | |
| 20:51 | rangi | since it doesnt win us anything significant, and potentially might break something |
| 20:51 | chris_n | rangi: +1 |
| 20:51 | rangi | cool will do |
| 20:52 | chris_n | ouch |
| 20:52 | Profile of /home/koha/koha.prod/cataloguing/addbooks.pl for 23.9s, executing 838930 statements and 207556 subroutine calls in 305 source files and 976 string evals. | |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Bother. |
| 20:52 | chris_n | ~24 seconds |
| 20:52 | jcamins | Speaking of trailing slash gotchas. |
| 20:52 | rangi | bug 7729 the same |
| 20:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , svc API should allow modification of items |
| 20:53 | chris_n | blisteringly slow |
| 20:53 | rangi: agree | |
| 20:53 | jcamins | I just discovered that I had a slash extra (or too few) in my rsync and my apt repo wasn't updated properly. |
| 20:54 | chris_n | looks like the templating stuff takes forever |
| 20:55 | pastebot | "chris_n" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Top 15 Subroutines — ordered" (19 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/416 |
| 20:55 | chris_n | any thoughts on what direction to look? |
| 20:56 | jcamins | I have no idea what Storable is even doing there. |
| 20:56 | I'm also unclear why it's running gunzip. | |
| 20:58 | chris_n | # spent 2.86s within Storable::mretrieve which was called 48 times, avg 59.5ms/call: |
| 20:58 | # 48 times (2.86s+0s) by Storable::thaw at line 415 of Storable.pm, avg 59.5ms/call | |
| 20:58 | glub, glub :-P | |
| 20:58 | jcamins | Wait. |
| 20:58 | Oh, never mind. | |
| 20:58 | The math does add up. | |
| 20:58 | It's milliseconds not nanoseconds. | |
| 20:59 | * chris_n | wonders just what's being passed in to thaw() |
| 20:59 | chris_n | 41148214ms my ($frozen) = @_; |
| 20:59 | jcamins | I'm profiling it on my system to see what I see. |
| 20:59 | chris_n | or if its just freezing things so hard that it takes a long time to thaw them back out... ;-) |
| 20:59 | jcamins | It's a bit faster. |
| 21:01 | The results are nothing like that. | |
| 21:02 | Clear your sessions? | |
| 21:02 | chris_n | will try |
| 21:02 | jcamins | I spend 301 microseconds in mretrieve. |
| 21:03 | chris_n | oo |
| 21:03 | look at this monstrosity | |
| 21:03 | mysql> SELECT count(*) FROM sessions; | |
| 21:03 | +----------+ | |
| 21:03 | | count(*) | | |
| 21:03 | +----------+ | |
| 21:03 | | 213750 | | |
| 21:03 | +----------+ | |
| 21:03 | 1 row in set (3.82 sec) | |
| 21:03 | jcamins | Memcached. |
| 21:03 | wahanui | i think memcached is running, but I dunno it Koha uses it. |
| 21:03 | jcamins | It's the way to go. :P |
| 21:03 | chris_n | its running :-) |
| 21:03 | do I need to clear the ntyprof log each time? | |
| 21:04 | jcamins | No, just refresh and run nytprofhtml again. |
| 21:04 | The configuration I suggested is a bit brittle because it will only keep the log for the last page load, but I find it works well enough for me. | |
| 21:05 | chris_n | well, its running |
| 21:05 | there was not much perceptible change in load time | |
| 21:06 | jcamins: it will probably be fine for my use too | |
| 21:06 | very nice tool | |
| 21:06 | entirely too much red, though | |
| 21:08 | rangi | http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ |
| 21:09 | check out the top right | |
| 21:09 | cait | yay! |
| 21:09 | * cait | changes and finds out she is still not understanding french |
| 21:09 | switches back | |
| 21:09 | cait | rangi++ |
| 21:10 | gaetan_B joined #koha | |
| 21:10 | rangi | refresh now |
| 21:11 | cait | heh |
| 21:11 | not sure I understand that :) | |
| 21:11 | rangi | gaetan_B: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/ <-- look at the top right |
| 21:11 | chris_n | rangi++ |
| 21:12 | gaetan_B | version 4.2.1 ? |
| 21:12 | rangi | below that |
| 21:12 | chris_n | DE now |
| 21:12 | nice! | |
| 21:12 | gaetan_B | oooh |
| 21:12 | ha :) | |
| 21:12 | chris_n | too bad it won't automagically translate comments ;-) |
| 21:12 | cait | or our statuses |
| 21:12 | rangi | that would be pretty cool :) |
| 21:13 | cait | google translate :) |
| 21:13 | rangi | but no, its static templates, like we do for koha |
| 21:13 | chris_n | jcamins: Profile of /home/koha/koha.prod/cataloguing/addbooks.pl for 22.6s, |
| 21:13 | after truncating sessions | |
| 21:13 | :-( | |
| 21:13 | * gaetan_B | is going to bed... good night #koha! |
| 21:14 | cait | he is faster than oleonard even |
| 21:17 | how is the go live going? | |
| 21:17 | * chris_n | is glad there are no users around :( |
| 21:17 | chris_n | data is ok |
| 21:18 | but it serves pages as slow as chrome rusts | |
| 21:18 | cait | that sounds painful |
| 21:18 | and you were not able to locate the problem yet? | |
| 21:18 | newer versions were reported to be faster | |
| 21:18 | chris_n | maybe resources? |
| 21:19 | this is a single core/single cpu 1.2GHz w/1G ram | |
| 21:19 | but I don't thing it should be *that* slow | |
| 21:19 | I can eat an entire chocolate chip cookie while the search page loads | |
| 21:20 | cait | oh |
| 21:20 | hand over the cookies then :) | |
| 21:20 | so it will get faster | |
| 21:21 | chris_n | addbooks.pl appears to consume 87% of the cpu cycles, so maybe it is resources |
| 21:21 | * chris_n | heads home |
| 21:21 | chris_n | this is a tomorrow problem :-P |
| 21:21 | cait | good luck tomorrow :) |
| 21:21 | maybe you dream the solutoin | |
| 21:22 | chris_n | lol! |
| 21:22 | more likely dream about eating more cookies :) | |
| 21:23 | cait | heh |
| 21:23 | I have the cookies now - dream the solution! | |
| 21:26 | jcamins | Yikes. That's a pretty dinky little server. |
| 21:26 | Maybe time to upgrade? | |
| 21:39 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #30: SUCCESS in 53 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/30/ |
| 21:39 | oleonard: Bug 8014 - On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked | |
| 21:39 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8014 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , On the patron entry form hide "restricted until" field if "Restricted: No" is checked |
| 21:39 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #31 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 21:44 | cait | !jenkins botsnack cupcake |
| 21:44 | jenkins_koha | cait: great! yum yum. how did you know that cupcake is my favorite food? |
| 21:44 | rangi | heh |
| 21:46 | cait | !rangi rmaintsnack muffin |
| 21:46 | rangi | i love muffins! |
| 21:46 | cait | good guess, eh? :) |
| 21:48 | rangi | bug 7818 |
| 21:48 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 7818 is waiting for my QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm. |
| 21:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 21:48 | rangi | yay |
| 21:48 | gmcharlt | huzzah |
| 21:49 | cait | gmcharlt++ :) |
| 21:51 | good night #koha | |
| 21:53 | rangi | night cait |
| 22:32 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #31: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/31/ |
| 22:32 | srdjan: bug_8056: sorted out slip print calls | |
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