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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | eythian | well, I haven't looked too closely. Just found that the packages don't install it, and they're based of the deps list. |
| 00:00 | Maybe it was fixed since this version. | |
| 00:01 | rangi | hmm could be, i think its a non requirement, but recommended dependency? maybe? |
| 00:01 | * rangi | runs koha_perl_deps.pl -a to check |
| 00:02 | rangi | Gravatar::URL 1.05 1.03 No |
| 00:02 | yeah no required dependency | |
| 00:02 | eythian | ah right |
| 00:03 | if it's not there, avatars just don't work, that's about it. Should have a note on the syspref that it'll need to be installed. | |
| 00:04 | rangi | yeah, that's a good idea |
| 00:04 | and it could be a recommended debian dependency eh? | |
| 00:04 | jcamins | Just another 30. |
| 00:06 | eythian | rangi: yeah |
| 00:06 | I need to revamp the dependency creating script a bit. | |
| 00:06 | Make it easier to deal with things like that. | |
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| 00:36 | roygbivovac | hey eythian, upgrade on test went fine |
| 00:36 | cjh joined #koha | |
| 00:37 | roygbivovac | do you reckon we need to take a snapshot of production before upgrading prod? |
| 00:39 | jcamins | Yes. |
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| 00:46 | jcamins | eythian: should 7885 be cherry-picked to 3.6.x? |
| 00:46 | I think it should. | |
| 00:47 | But I'm not 100% sure. | |
| 00:47 | Actually, it will only impact new installations. | |
| 00:47 | I'm sure. | |
| 01:01 | eythian | roygbivovac: it's always a good idea to copy the database off somewhere, although I would expect it to be totally safe. |
| 01:02 | jcamins: doesn't really matter, it'll mostly affect new things, but it's not a terribly important thing either. | |
| 01:04 | jcamins | Done! |
| 01:05 | eythian | http://www.stgraber.org/2012/0[…]ubuntu-12-04-lts/ <-- this could be handy as a lighter weight alternative to using VMs for dev stuff. |
| 01:05 | jcamins | Hopefully I even got the messages on the last ones right. |
| 01:06 | * jcamins | tests 3.6-testing. |
| 01:06 | jcamins | Cross your fingers, everyone. |
| 01:07 | Oh, drat. | |
| 01:07 | * rangi | crosses his fingers |
| 01:07 | jcamins | It's on the wrong database. |
| 01:07 | rangi | heh |
| 01:08 | jcamins | Maybe it'll pass the tests anyway. |
| 01:09 | Seems unlikely, but we'll find out. | |
| 01:13 | Well, it's still going on the unit tests. | |
| 01:36 | mtj | i haz a question about... |
| 01:36 | bug 6679 | |
| 01:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6679 minor, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Fixing code so it passes basic Perl::Critic tests |
| 01:36 | rangi | yep? |
| 01:36 | wahanui | yep. |
| 01:38 | mtj | these perlcritic errors i patched this morning... would they be accepted? - or refused? |
| 01:38 | for errors like ... "Subroutine prototypes used at line XXX, column 1. See page 194 of PBP. (Severity: 5)" | |
| 01:38 | rangi | yeah |
| 01:39 | prototypes dont work how people think they do, the way we are trying to use them is wrong | |
| 01:39 | mtj | and ... "return" statement with explicit "undef" at line XXX, column 26. See page 199 of PBP. (Severity: 5)" |
| 01:39 | rangi | yep |
| 01:39 | mtj | good idea? or just a waste of my time? , etc... :p |
| 01:39 | rangi | good idea |
| 01:39 | thats what that bug is for | |
| 01:40 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=6677&action=edit | |
| 01:40 | was pushed by paul_p | |
| 01:40 | mtj | ok.... just checking... before i do a bunch more patches :) |
| 01:40 | rangi | the aim is to get every script passing at least gentle mode of perl critic |
| 01:41 | i try a do a dir at a time | |
| 01:41 | mtj | aah, yep - those type of patches have been accepted already... cool :) |
| 01:42 | and for C4/* ... a .pm file - at a time | |
| 01:43 | perlcritic is an awesome tool | |
| 01:43 | rangi | it is |
| 01:44 | did you read that link in that patch i pasted? | |
| 01:44 | http://www.modernperlbooks.com[…]h-prototypes.html | |
| 01:45 | mtj | yep - i read it 6 months ago, for the first time |
| 01:45 | rangi | :) |
| 01:45 | its a nice write up, chromatic is pretty awesome | |
| 01:46 | mtj | ... after seeing the perlcritic errors in koha ,prolly |
| 01:49 | rangi | yeah i think thats when i read it |
| 01:50 | melia left #koha | |
| 01:57 | mtj | rangi: i came up with a nice way of finding the failing-est files in koha - from perlcritic... |
| 01:57 | $ perlcritic --count ./kohaclone.git | sort -rn -t: +1 -2 | |
| 01:57 | i started at the top, and worked down, etc... | |
| 01:57 | rangi | ahh nice trick |
| 01:57 | good idea | |
| 01:58 | mtj | mason xen1:~/g/head$ perlcritic --count ./C4 | sort -rn -t: +1 -2 |
| 01:58 | C4/Tags.pm: 49 | |
| 01:58 | C4/Letters.pm: 19 | |
| 01:59 | C4/ImportExportFramework.pm: 15 | |
| 01:59 | ... | |
| 01:59 | bbiab | |
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| 02:02 | chris_n | what a ride its been this evening :-P |
| 02:03 | rangi | chris_n: in a bad way? |
| 02:03 | not out on a ducati ? :) | |
| 02:03 | chris_n | no, just dsl bounces due to sever weather :-) |
| 02:03 | rangi | ahh thats way less fun |
| 02:03 | chris_n | severe even |
| 02:04 | rangi | altho a ducati ride in severe weather wouldnt be fun |
| 02:04 | chris_n | this dsl is way over 10 km |
| 02:05 | and has lots of grounding issues | |
| 02:05 | rangi | ahhh, pretty fragile then |
| 02:05 | chris_n | so when it rains.... |
| 02:05 | rangi | yeah |
| 02:05 | chris_n | here we go :-) |
| 02:07 | jcamins++ # lots of bug wrangling/rmaint'ing today | |
| 02:09 | * chris_n | wishes he had a ducati... with the current price of gas |
| 02:09 | rangi | whats it in the US now? |
| 02:09 | chris_n | ~$3.75/gal |
| 02:10 | rangi | 2.21 nzd for octane 91 here /litre |
| 02:10 | 2.21 * 3.785 | |
| 02:10 | wahanui | 8.36485 |
| 02:10 | chris_n | ouch |
| 02:10 | jcamins | Ugh. |
| 02:10 | Ran out of disk space. | |
| 02:10 | rangi | thats nzd |
| 02:10 | chris_n | ~5.80 usd |
| 02:11 | rangi | yeah :( |
| 02:11 | * chris_n | feels a bit better |
| 02:11 | rangi | hehe |
| 02:11 | chris_n | just replaced an O2 sensor in our van and gained back ~3mpg |
| 02:12 | so that's good too | |
| 02:12 | rangi | nice |
| 02:12 | chris_n | its all the other idiots on the road that keeps me from getting a bike |
| 02:12 | :) | |
| 02:12 | rangi | :) |
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| 02:16 | jcamins | Okay, found more disk space. |
| 02:18 | rangi | it's on the floor |
| 02:19 | jcamins_away | rangi: my external hard drive? Nah, I'd prefer not to try and mount /var on my VM to an network drive. |
| 02:21 | rangi | jcamins_away: it was a tv advertisement here |
| 02:21 | but unfortunately not on youtube | |
| 02:22 | * ibeardslee | can't even remember what it was advertising |
| 02:22 | rangi | sky tv |
| 02:22 | jcamins_away | rangi: oh. As it happens, I have a network hard drive on the floor. |
| 02:23 | rangi | 'where's the remote?' 'ON THE FLOOR!' |
| 02:23 | i cant find it at all | |
| 02:23 | but i found the annoying fresh up ad | |
| 02:24 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]c&feature=related | |
| 02:27 | ibeardslee | .. !?! .. https://www.facebook.com/pages[…]d/110027425680769 |
| 02:27 | no ad there though | |
| 02:28 | just flabbergasted that people would go that far | |
| 02:29 | rangi | heh |
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| 03:46 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
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| 04:28 | francharb | good morning |
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| 04:30 | rangi | hi francharb |
| 04:41 | francharb | hi rangi |
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| 05:32 | Amit_Gupta | heya ciat |
| 05:36 | eythian | @later tell wizzyrea 3.8.1 packages uploading now |
| 05:36 | huginn` | eythian: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:52 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:52 | eythian | hello |
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| 06:20 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:22 | rangi joined #koha | |
| 06:23 | magnuse | ata marie rangi |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | bonjour |
| 06:41 | magnuse | kia ora! |
| 06:41 | jcamins++ for epic bug wrangling! | |
| 06:42 | rangi joined #koha | |
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| 06:46 | * magnuse | hands rangi the duct tape |
| 06:46 | rangi | sorry about that |
| 06:46 | but do a whois on me now | |
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| 06:47 | magnuse | just "/whois rangi"? |
| 06:48 | rangi | yep |
| 06:48 | magnuse | doesn't seem to work in xchat... |
| 06:48 | rangi | it might put it in another window |
| 06:48 | magnuse | but you are @bugs.kc.org |
| 06:48 | rangi | ahh been that for a while |
| 06:49 | its | |
| 06:49 | is using a secure connectio | |
| 06:49 | n | |
| 06:49 | ssl to my bip, and ssl from it to oftc | |
| 06:49 | magnuse | yay |
| 06:50 | * magnuse | wanders off in search of breakfast |
| 06:57 | paul_p_ | good morning #koha |
| 06:57 | rangi | hi paul_p_ |
| 06:58 | paul_p_ | (and just for the record : gaz price in France = 1.40-1.45€/liter) |
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| 07:06 | Oak | Ahoy me hearties |
| 07:06 | magnuse | |
| 07:06 | \o/ i win | |
| 07:06 | Guten morgen cait | |
| 07:16 | cait | hi Oak :) |
| 07:17 | Oak | :) |
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| 07:25 | cait | hi #koha :) |
| 07:29 | magnuse | hiya cait and Oak and hdl and bshum and everyone else |
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| 07:30 | bag | heya cait and magnuse |
| 07:30 | :) | |
| 07:30 | cait++ | |
| 07:30 | magnuse++ | |
| 07:31 | #just cause | |
| 07:31 | magnuse | hehe thanks :-) |
| 07:31 | don't think i deserve it, though... | |
| 07:31 | bag | you always do |
| 07:31 | @karma magnuse | |
| 07:31 | huginn` | bag: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 163 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 163. |
| 07:32 | bag | @karma bag |
| 07:32 | huginn` | bag: Karma for "bag" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 07:32 | magnuse | w00t |
| 07:32 | bag | see magnuse ;) |
| 07:32 | proof is there ;) | |
| 07:32 | @karma brendan | |
| 07:32 | huginn` | bag: Karma for "brendan" has been increased 28 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 28. |
| 07:32 | bag | yay brendan should always be ahead of bag |
| 07:32 | magnuse | hm, feels like i ought to sign off on a patch now, to justify that ++ |
| 07:33 | bag | bug 5911 |
| 07:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5911 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , Transport Cost Matrix of transporting an item between branches |
| 07:33 | bag | there you go ;) |
| 07:33 | well you asked right? | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | i have no idea what a Transport Cost Matrix is, though... |
| 07:33 | i sort of did, yes | |
| 07:33 | bag | think more holds complexity |
| 07:33 | :D | |
| 07:34 | magnuse | heh |
| 08:05 | rangi | magnuse: bug 4330 has a ton of easy ones to signoff |
| 08:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4330 normal, P3, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Copyright statements out of date |
| 08:07 | magnuse | rangi: yay. but i already started doing some paid work... will remember it for later though |
| 08:09 | rangi | :) |
| 08:21 | cait | paul_p: around? |
| 08:21 | paul_p | cait yes (but not really available for a few minuts) |
| 08:21 | rangi | i have a question for anyone who knows |
| 08:22 | how many libraries are running koha + solr now? | |
| 08:22 | cait | paul_p: ah, only thought you would know some nice examples for big academic koha users :) |
| 08:22 | rangi | 3 ? |
| 08:22 | cait: lyon 3 | |
| 08:23 | paul_p | rangi = StEtienne University, Limoges University, Limoges Public Library, Institut Télecom = 4 |
| 08:23 | rangi | thank you |
| 08:24 | paul_p | cait the largest academic Koha user we have in France is AixMarseille (1.2M items, 70k patrons) |
| 08:24 | cait | ah, thank you |
| 08:24 | I thought it was aix marseille, but not sue | |
| 08:24 | and thank you for the numbers :) | |
| 08:24 | paul_p | there are 9 universities using Koha, from the largest to the smallest : |
| 08:24 | rangi | arent all 3 in marseille using koha now? |
| 08:25 | or is that really one, but 3 campuses? | |
| 08:25 | paul_p | rangi = since january 2012, 1st, there's only 1 university in Marseille ! |
| 08:25 | rangi | ohhhh |
| 08:25 | did they all merge? | |
| 08:25 | bag | heya paul_p |
| 08:25 | cait | which is why they are so big :) |
| 08:25 | paul_p | (with 3 main campuses, and something like 10 small) |
| 08:25 | rangi | cool |
| 08:25 | is the main campus the one we had dev week at? | |
| 08:26 | paul_p | rangi yep: http://www.univ-amu.fr/ |
| 08:26 | rangi | cool |
| 08:26 | paul_p | rangi = not at all. the dev week was at a tiny campus |
| 08:26 | rangi | oh, seemed pretty big to me :) |
| 08:27 | paul_p | rangi in fact, it was big, but only the building we were was university. all the rest was companies / other schools / ... |
| 08:27 | rangi | ahh |
| 08:27 | that makes sense now | |
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| 08:27 | * rangi | remembers the cafeteria fondly |
| 08:27 | slef | oooh this upsets huginn |
| 08:27 | @query Template process failed: file error - /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found | |
| 08:27 | huginn` | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]%3A%20not%20found could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId |
| 08:27 | bag | yup coffee is key ;) |
| 08:28 | rangi | bag: it was the nice bottles of wine you could get with the delicious lunch :) |
| 08:28 | i also remember going to a rugby cafe in marseille, with thd, hdl, laurel and russel | |
| 08:29 | paul_p | ( there's only 1 rugby cafe in Marseille, as it's a soccer city ;-) ) |
| 08:29 | rangi | where the owner tried to get russel to come play for his team in the weekend, and we all wore silly hats |
| 08:29 | bag | HA |
| 08:29 | silly hats rule | |
| 08:29 | rangi | i think it was moroccan style food too .. can you remember hdl? |
| 08:30 | it was yum whatever it was | |
| 08:30 | paul_p | rangi = did I told you that my 1st son is playing rugby ? 2nd lines, or number 9. he has the regional yearly tournament semi-final on saturday ! |
| 08:30 | * bag | always thinks of myself as a hat fashion guy |
| 08:30 | hdl | rangi: can't remember... |
| 08:30 | bag | well paul_p good luck to your son |
| 08:31 | Oak | food! i am hungry. |
| 08:32 | rangi | ooohhhh very cool! |
| 08:33 | http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp?g2_itemId=9684 | |
| 08:33 | paul_p | rangi http://www.facebook.com/photo.[…]66&type=3&theater (my son is just on the left of the captain, with the red shirt) |
| 08:35 | rangi | tall for a 9 :) but id expect tall with you as his father :) |
| 08:35 | bag | oh man rangi that picture is awesome |
| 08:36 | rangi | paul_p: that ground looks hard! |
| 08:36 | bag | I can't tell height in paul_p picture… I'm sure he's going to be as tall |
| 08:37 | paul_p | bag Simon (my son) is just a few cm less tall than I'm. and he weights 85kg (only muscle almost) |
| 08:37 | rangi yep, the ground is hard. | |
| 08:37 | rangi | im picking lock in a few years |
| 08:37 | bag | HA I'm always wrong with pictures and height (cause I'm a hobbit ;) ) |
| 08:37 | paul_p: is quite a bunch of cm's taller than me | |
| 08:38 | paul_p | bag I confirm ;-) |
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| 08:39 | magnuse | kia ora stuartyeates |
| 08:40 | stuartyeates | hi magnuse |
| 08:40 | bag | paul_p: I have not had a chance to say yet - but great job with 3.8 it is really beautiful… (excellent job as RM) :D |
| 08:41 | magnuse | yeah paul_p++ |
| 08:41 | paul_p | bag thx. |
| 08:41 | bag | it gets me really really excited to see 3.10 ;) |
| 08:41 | paul_p | (in fact I'm happy, but also very frustrated by all the things i'd like to do but can't) |
| 08:42 | bag | paul_p: agreed - I see so much great code out there :) |
| 08:42 | rangi | yep |
| 08:42 | paul_p++ | |
| 08:43 | paul_p | rangi = why this ++ because i'm frustrated ? ( ps: :D and ;-) ) |
| 08:43 | magnuse | being frustrated and still doing great things deserves a ++ :-) |
| 08:43 | cait | I think we all are frustrated sometimes about all the things we want to do but don't find time for |
| 08:44 | so many gread ideas, not enough time | |
| 08:44 | bag | OR so many great patches out there - but so little time to test :( |
| 08:45 | magnuse | too true |
| 08:45 | cait | or so many bugs waiting for a patch... |
| 08:45 | it's something we can only change together | |
| 08:45 | bag | too true (thanks magnuse) |
| 08:45 | magnuse | bag: any progress on the edi thing? |
| 08:45 | bag | I've installed the patches on master |
| 08:46 | paul_p | cait++ |
| 08:46 | bag | and I'm working on getting a "broader" base of vendors to test against |
| 08:46 | paul_p | (and that was the meaning of a recent mail on koha-devel: we can change it together only) |
| 08:46 | bag | but so far "I would sign off" on the patch |
| 08:46 | magnuse | bag: great! |
| 08:46 | rangi | paul_p: hehe yeah, cos i know that frustration, and because 3.8.0 was pretty solid |
| 08:47 | cait | bag: we need a follow up |
| 08:47 | you saw my comments? | |
| 08:47 | paul_p | bag = not sure I understand what you mean by "I'm working on getting a "broader" base of vendors to test against" |
| 08:47 | magnuse | paul_p: for the edi enh, i think |
| 08:47 | * slef | places another order for stuff for kohacon, again after the quote expires because of sponsorship slower-than-hoped, hopes he gets away without price increase again |
| 08:48 | bag | cait: I saw your commets - great! |
| 08:48 | cait | :( |
| 08:48 | slef: still no new sponsors? | |
| 08:48 | bag | paul_p: I am worried that the code only works for a certain set of EDIfact |
| 08:48 | slef | cait: some new sponsors... which is why I can order this now. |
| 08:49 | rangi | slef: did you get my form submission? |
| 08:49 | bag | paul_p: with some help from atz -- we've figured out this " LIN is not segment_group 27 in every version" so that would need to be granulized |
| 08:50 | cait | rangi++ for donating to kohacon |
| 08:50 | paul_p | bag = I have no knowledge of EDIFACT to this "segment_group" message is chinese to me :D :D |
| 08:50 | bag | HAHAHA |
| 08:51 | slef | cait: basically we're now at the point where the basic conference will happen and every X pounds means we can add something else that people like at a conference, like better conference pack, better internet access and so on |
| 08:51 | paul_p | hey, it's quite rare that we have ppl from NZ and US and Europe at the same time on this channel ! |
| 08:51 | slef | rangi: reply with you now |
| 08:51 | rangi | cool thanks :) |
| 08:51 | slef | rangi: no thank you :) |
| 08:51 | bag | paul_p: you can spend months reading EDIfact documentation - and it's different for every group (vendor) |
| 08:51 | cait | slef: what is missing that you would still like to do/get? |
| 08:52 | bag | oh good question cait |
| 08:54 | * magnuse | reads through the list of kohacon sponsors |
| 08:54 | slef | cait: I'm wondering about notepads and pens for the conference pack, I'm still not clear on what internet and refreshments we have there but mle and Andrea know more, at least one cultural/social event, transporting some more equipment to Edinburgh but we can do without that if we must.... I think there is probably more that has been suggested and I'm forgetting. |
| 08:54 | bag | ah yup - we were really late - just submitted tonight |
| 08:54 | rangi | i have a huge pile of pens and pads from conferences |
| 08:54 | i never use them | |
| 08:54 | fwiw | |
| 08:55 | slef | oh yeah we might go with take-it-if-you-need-it on the desk |
| 08:55 | cait | rangi: and I safe my pad from kohacon for special occasions and meetings :) |
| 08:55 | rangi | slef: thats not a bad idea at all |
| 08:55 | cait | slef: but think the pads and pens I would not worry somuch about |
| 08:56 | slef | like I say, the basic event will happen, but there's lots of stuff some people would really like |
| 08:56 | magnuse | drop the pens and paper and say you are being environmentally friendly |
| 08:56 | paul_p | magnuse++ for this idea !!! |
| 08:56 | cait | but still bad we have to think about such things |
| 08:56 | I mean it's not a big amount really that was to be raised for kohacon :( | |
| 08:56 | slef | magnuse: pads will be small... ideally I'd like a load of the cardboard pens but they're even more expensive than plastic (crazy!) |
| 08:56 | magnuse | slef: yeah, that sux! |
| 08:58 | slef | I think we're going to raise £3000ish now, which leaves the hosts putting about the same amount in between us, which isn't too bad. |
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| 09:04 | rangi | 9 days |
| 09:04 | until eythian and I started flying | |
| 09:05 | mib_am69mf | hi i want to know the latest version of koha on windows |
| 09:05 | magnuse | how long will the journey be? |
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| 09:06 | slef | 28h? |
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| 09:06 | rangi | mib_am69mf: there hasnt been a version released in a long time |
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| 09:07 | slef | chris_n has an identity crisis |
| 09:07 | mib_am69mf | can u sovle one problem of mine |
| 09:07 | ? | |
| 09:08 | rangi | magnuse: leave here at 8.40pm sunday june 3 nz time, arrive in edinburgh 8.25pm monday june 4 uk time |
| 09:08 | slef | NZ is UK+13 I think. |
| 09:08 | mib_am69mf: meta-question | |
| 09:08 | wahanui | just ask, don't ask if you can ask and if the right people are not here, they won't answer or you can use huginn's @later to leave a message |
| 09:08 | rangi | so 36ish hours |
| 09:09 | magnuse | sounds familiar ;-) |
| 09:09 | rangi | in planes and airports |
| 09:09 | mib_am69mf | wt is the problem in koha229 that is able to extract value from my sql but it unable to insert and update value from user interface |
| 09:09 | slef | rangi: ow 36? Air NZ? Stopovers? |
| 09:10 | rangi | wlg->akl->singapore->heathrow->edinburgh |
| 09:11 | hdl | mib_am69mf: hi, please, just ask, don't ask to ask. |
| 09:11 | mib_am69mf: hadn't seen your question. | |
| 09:11 | rangi | mib_am69mf: hmm i dont know, other than the fact 2.2.9 is really really really old |
| 09:11 | mib_am69mf | i already asked |
| 09:11 | bag | heya hdl |
| 09:11 | hdl | hi bag |
| 09:12 | mib_am69mf: would require some more logs to see what is happening. | |
| 09:12 | rangi | slef: 11 hours to singapore, 13 sing to london ... 1 hour to akl, 1.5 lhr to edinburgh .. the rest is all in airports |
| 09:12 | hdl | mib_am69mf: it may come from : |
| 09:12 | bag | hdl you always take the best pictures http://photos.bigballofwax.co.[…]hp?g2_itemId=9684 |
| 09:12 | hdl | db structure. |
| 09:13 | or mysql access | |
| 09:13 | or something else. | |
| 09:13 | rangi | oh, yes good thought hdl |
| 09:13 | it might be mysql user permissions | |
| 09:13 | mib_am69mf | i am using the default user name passwod koha/koha |
| 09:14 | hdl | mib_am69mf: we would need some more information from apache logs |
| 09:14 | mib_am69mf | kk |
| 09:16 | hdl | mib_am69mf: upgrading to 3.8 could be also helpful... though quite painful... but worth the pain. |
| 09:16 | slef | rangi: guess it beats my 12h to akl :) |
| 09:17 | mib_am69mf | i will but i want it do on windows |
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| 09:20 | slef | mib_am69mf: you will probably need to do it yourself, maybe doing some archaeology on http://bugs.koha-community.org to find old 2.2.9 bugs, or find a support company that will support Koha on windows (not the co-op) |
| 09:20 | hdl | mib_am69mf: windows ? |
| 09:20 | wahanui | it has been said that windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. |
| 09:21 | hdl | mib_am69mf: consider exporting your records and use http://www.sigb.net/download/index.php |
| 09:26 | mib_am69mf | thanks for ur suggestion i will do it |
| 09:32 | rangi | magnuse: i see you are backing the git-annex-assistant too :) |
| 09:33 | magnuse | rangi: yup, sounds like a cool project! |
| 09:33 | rangi | yep |
| 09:37 | magnuse | and quite modest, moneywise |
| 09:37 | rangi | yes, it really is |
| 09:38 | magnuse | sounds like a lot has been done already, though, and this is just to fund the last stretch |
| 09:38 | rangi | yup, i already use git-annex |
| 09:38 | magnuse | cool |
| 09:38 | i need to check it out, i guess ;-) | |
| 09:38 | rangi | :) |
| 09:44 | magnuse | installed! |
| 09:45 | rangi | hehe |
| 09:47 | http://git-annex.branchable.co[…]a_special_remote/ <-- i use that | |
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| 10:14 | magnuse | rangi: cool (not an android user, though) |
| 10:14 | rangi | yep, i dont use it on my phone |
| 10:14 | i just downloaded the app to get 50gig :) | |
| 10:15 | use it on my laptop and workstation, with davfs | |
| 10:36 | slef | argh, paypal just limited our account again... mjkaye to the rescue |
| 10:57 | magnuse | paypal-- |
| 10:59 | slef | arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh |
| 11:00 | "We'll review your details and will be in touch if we have any questions." | |
| 11:00 | so all the donations sat in Paypal are inaccessible for an unknown period of time | |
| 11:01 | They're blaming the EU regulations, but I've been through those regulations in the past, to get another bank to stop arsing around, and so I'm 99% sure this isn't required. | |
| 11:01 | Paypal-- - screwing community projects over since 1999. | |
| 11:02 | Let me check whether we can even receive donations. | |
| 11:02 | Well... we can... | |
| 11:03 | We just can't pay any suppliers from Paypal, transfer to our bank account or close the account. | |
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| 11:05 | slef | I think we'll be OK. There's something like £2000 now stuck at Paypal but I'm pretty sure that the balance for the room hire doesn't need paying until next week and that's about £2000. |
| 11:05 | INTERNATIONAL BANKING IS FUN! | |
| 11:06 | wahanui: international banking? | |
| 11:06 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, slef |
| 11:06 | slef | hehe |
| 11:22 | Amit_Gupta | heya slef |
| 11:23 | slef | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 11:48 | mj | Hi! |
| 11:49 | Quick question: Is it safe to remove the patron passwords from mysql, if you are using ldap authentication? | |
| 11:50 | in our system, users can login with their new *AND OLD* password | |
| 11:50 | (previous password) | |
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| 12:20 | mtj | mj, you might have your ldap set up wrong, too? |
| 12:20 | i have set up only i ldap system | |
| 12:22 | in my case, the ldap server *updated* the koha password - so they both always matched each other | |
| 12:22 | ...thats all i can remember (twas 2 years ago?) | |
| 12:23 | but short answer is... 'yes' ! :) | |
| 12:23 | (after you make a backup, and test on a dev system, of course) | |
| 12:29 | Amit_Gupta | heya slef |
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| 12:52 | mj | yes: they match here too. But it seems that FIRST koha tries the local password? |
| 12:52 | chris_n | slef: identity crises come with foul weather around here ;-) |
| 12:52 | mj | So it seems... and if that matches: authentication succeedes. |
| 12:52 | jcamins | mj: yes, that's the way LDAP authentication works. |
| 12:52 | (in Koha) | |
| 12:53 | mj | So, if I change the ldap password, but the user types the OLD password, he/she still get's in. |
| 12:53 | (using the local koha/mysql) password | |
| 12:53 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:53 | mj | Not so nice. |
| 12:53 | In other software I have seen a 'flush authentication cache' button. | |
| 12:54 | Would be nice to have. | |
| 12:54 | What I did now: | |
| 12:54 | jcamins | Ooh, that's a neat idea! |
| 12:54 | mj | UPDATE borrowers SET password = ''; |
| 12:54 | perhaps I should file an enhancement request? | |
| 12:55 | jcamins | Sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 12:57 | mj | We do that in bugzilla? |
| 12:57 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 12:57 | No guarantee anyone will implement it, but it's a cool idea. | |
| 12:57 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7977 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4fa4a336aa0620856> / Bug 7977 follow-up, fixing UC breaking coding guidelines <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]00c102e83ef345a9d> / add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]it;a=commitdiff;h |
| 12:58 | chris_n | is there really no sync of the user's password between the LDAP server and the local Koha db? |
| 12:58 | jcamins | And someone may see it, think it's a great idea, and decide to implement it. :) |
| 12:58 | chris_n: there is, but it's lazy. | |
| 12:58 | chris_n | ahh |
| 12:58 | lazyness-- | |
| 12:58 | jcamins | To avoid unnecessary round-trips, we authenticate against what we have first. |
| 12:58 | chris_n++ # release note generator | |
| 12:58 | chris_n | tnx |
| 12:59 | it looks like rangi is using it too | |
| 12:59 | mj | chris_n: the sync happens, but if we change the password in ldap, koha still has the previous password. |
| 12:59 | chris_n | right |
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| 12:59 | mj | and if the user types the previous password, he gets in |
| 12:59 | chris_n | mj: change it at the LDAP server, right? |
| 12:59 | wahanui | chris_n: that doesn't look right |
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| 13:00 | mj | Yep. |
| 13:00 | * chris_n | tosses wahanui more fudge |
| 13:01 | chris_n | maybe a syspref to select the order of precedence when authenticating a user would be nice |
| 13:01 | mj | so, where can I file an enhancement request for a 'flush authentication cache' button in the staff interface..? |
| 13:01 | chris_n | bugs? |
| 13:01 | wahanui | bugs is, like, found at http://bugs.koha-community.org. Please fix any bugs you find. :) or reporting them is helpful, too |
| 13:01 | mj | that could be a solution too |
| 13:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #732 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:01 | chris_n | sort of like pam configurations, etc |
| 13:03 | paul_p: thanks! | |
| 13:04 | paul_p | chris_n yw ;-) |
| 13:05 | chris_n | with a few simple modifications QOTD could become tip-of-the-day for the staff client, as jcamins pointed out some time back |
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| 13:06 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 13:06 | I need translations. | |
| 13:06 | fredericd: about? | |
| 13:06 | * oleonard | develops a tip-of-the-day feature which shames librarians who use Internet Explorer |
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| 13:07 | * oleonard | includes a switch to re-route messages to sysadmins who insist the librarians use IE |
| 13:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #732: FAILURE in 6 min 23 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/732/ |
| 13:08 | * kyle: Bug 7757 - Edit basket vendor after it has been created | |
| 13:08 | * paul.poulain: [PATCH 1/1] Bug 7757 - Followup - Move IF outside of html tag | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Upgrading DataTables library to 1.9.1 | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Updating datatables.css to reflect changes from v1.8.1 to v1.9.1 | |
| 13:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7757 enhancement, P3, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Edit basket vendor after it has been created |
| 13:08 | jenkins_koha | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding jEditable minified version |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding DateTime::Format::MySQL as a core dependency | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Quote-of-the-day (QOTD) Feature for OPAC | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: QOTD uploader to enable uploading csv files containing quotes | |
| 13:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Pushed to Master , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage |
| 13:08 | jenkins_koha | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Further UI work on the QOTD uploader |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Further UI work on the QOTD editor | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing captialization on the tools main page | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing quote sample data timestamps | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding Daily Quotes Tests to Koha.t test suite; also fixing sort order on quote selection SQL | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Adding Koha standard help files for QOTD feature | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Followup patch addressing items pointed out by Jonathan Druart | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Removing unused code from quotes_ajax.pl | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Fixing a bug which results in quote fields being incorrectly offset when saving uploaded quotes | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Bug 7977: Improving upload result message display | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Making source a text field rather than a varchar to avoid potential length limitations | |
| 13:08 | * cnighswonger: Fixing a typo in the quotes-upload help file and hardcoded css | |
| 13:08 | * mtj: add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql | |
| 13:08 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7977 follow-up, fixing UC breaking coding guidelines | |
| 13:08 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7977 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 13:09 | chris_n | paul_p: we'll need to add the sample quotes to the test data on jenkins_koha |
| 13:09 | oleonard: I'll sign off on that one ;-) | |
| 13:10 | jcamins | chris_n: do I just ask fredericd for the translation files? |
| 13:10 | chris_n | jcamins: yes... I usually fire off an email which seems to be faster |
| 13:11 | jcamins | chris_n: okay. |
| 13:11 | Thanks. | |
| 13:11 | paul_p | yikes ! ok 31 - Open translated user permissions file installer/data/mysql/es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql |
| 13:11 | ok 32 - Found 47 perms ! | |
| 13:11 | there was a follow-up for this file !!! | |
| 13:11 | * paul_p | fixes that immediatly |
| 13:11 | chris_n | he'll create a branch for it from whence you may cherry-pick at your leisure |
| 13:12 | jcamins | I guess I should include Samuel in the e-mail. |
| 13:12 | Do we know his e-mail address? | |
| 13:12 | chris_n | paul_p: and add the new dep to jenkins as well ;-) |
| 13:12 | Samuel? | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | Hm. He's not listed anymore never mind. |
| 13:13 | I thought someone named Samuel volunteered to be Translation Manager. | |
| 13:14 | paul_p | mmm... add edit_quotes to es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql |
| 13:14 | ||
| 13:14 | Signed-off-by: Mason James <mtjkohaaloha.com> |
|
| 13:14 | ... should be OK. /me investigates | |
| 13:14 | chris_n = it's chris_c that manages most of jenkins | |
| 13:14 | chris_n | paul_p: mtj's patch is self-signed.. he added it when he QA'd |
| 13:15 | * chris_n | cannot vouch that it works correctly |
| 13:15 | chris_n | @later tell rangi we need to add DateTime::Format::MySQL to jenkins as well as the sample quote data |
| 13:15 | huginn` | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:16 | jcamins | paul_p: I don't see any problem. It says "ok 32 - found 47 permissions!" |
| 13:16 | Right? | |
| 13:16 | paul_p | perl xt/permissions.t works fine for me... |
| 13:16 | jcamins I have 50 | |
| 13:16 | ok 31 - Open translated user permissions file installer/data/mysql/es-ES/mandatory/userpermissions.sql | |
| 13:16 | ok 32 - Found 50 perms | |
| 13:16 | ok 33 - No user permissions to add | |
| 13:16 | ok 34 - No user permissions to delete | |
| 13:16 | 1..34 | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | paul_p: oh, that's weird. I wonder why it said it was okay, then. |
| 13:17 | Oh, because it's tests 33 and 34 that could be problems. | |
| 13:17 | chris_n | broken test? |
| 13:17 | paul_p | @later tell chris_c about jenkins complain, it's related to bug 7977, but I don't understand why it complain, the test work on my laptop... |
| 13:17 | huginn` | paul_p: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:18 | chris_n | you mean rangi? |
| 13:18 | paul_p | @later tell rangi about jenkins complain, it's related to bug 7977, but I don't understand why it complain, the test work on my laptop... |
| 13:18 | huginn` | paul_p: The operation succeeded. |
| 13:18 | paul_p | chris_n right ;-) |
| 13:18 | * chris_n | hands paul_p coffee |
| 13:18 | chris_n | or tea |
| 13:18 | or whatever you like ;-) | |
| 13:19 | mj | wahanui, chris_n: I have filed an enhancement request here: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8148 |
| 13:19 | wahanui | mj: excuse me? |
| 13:19 | huginn` | 04Bug 8148: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , ldap authentication should FAIL if ldap contains NEW password, and user types the PREVIOUS password |
| 13:19 | * chris_n | thinks its because jenkins does not have the new core dep and so it croaks during testing |
| 13:20 | chris_n | hence: |
| 13:20 | # Failed test 'use C4::Message;' | |
| 13:20 | # at t/00-load.t line 32. | |
| 13:20 | # Tried to use 'C4::Message'. | |
| 13:20 | # Error: Can't locate DateTime/Format/MySQL.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /home/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/blib/arch /home/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/blib/lib <http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/ws/> /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at <http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/ | |
| 13:20 | paul_p | chris_n maybe, but in this case, the message is at the very least very unclear ! |
| 13:20 | chris_n | Koha_master/ws/C4/Koha.pm> line 30. |
| 13:20 | mj: great! | |
| 13:20 | paul_p | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ons_to_add__230_/ |
| 13:20 | chris_n | mj++ # for filing a bug |
| 13:21 | mj | Sorry wahanui, I'm new to irc, I typed the wrong username, I meant jcamins |
| 13:24 | chris_n | mj: wahanui is a bot... feel free to ignore his opinions :-) |
| 13:24 | mj | ow. well, as I said: new to irc.... |
| 13:24 | thank for informing me :-) | |
| 13:25 | jcamins | wahanui: change yourself into a person |
| 13:25 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 13:26 | chris_n | paul_p: Bailout called. Further testing stopped: ***** PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Message' |
| 13:26 | # Tests were run but no plan was declared and done_testing() was not seen. | |
| 13:26 | FAILED--Further testing stopped: ***** PROBLEMS LOADING FILE 'C4::Message' | |
| 13:26 | I think that's it | |
| 13:26 | due to the missing dep | |
| 13:26 | paul_p | OK |
| 13:26 | chris_n | jenkins can really spew at times |
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| 13:35 | oleonard | talljoy around? |
| 13:36 | talljoy | yup |
| 13:36 | oleonard | Can you describe the contents of the 775 tag causing problems in Bug 8144? |
| 13:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8144 critical, P1 - high, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , 775 tag in the MARC record causes display issue |
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| 13:36 | oleonard | I want to make sure I'm testing with the right data |
| 13:36 | talljoy | sure thing. let me go grab it |
| 13:37 | =775 1\$aJane's fighting ships$x0075-3025$fenk is what they had. but I tested this with only the 775$a field | |
| 13:38 | jcamins | Wow. Don't see $f often! |
| 13:39 | chris_n | up late mtj or early? |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Thanks talljoy, I guess I'm seeing the same thing then. |
| 13:39 | talljoy | museum library. crazy cataloging |
| 13:39 | and lots of authority work jcamins. you'd love it. | |
| 13:39 | jcamins | talljoy: that's the kind of library I work with. |
| 13:39 | talljoy | yeah. it's neat stuff. but sometimes what they need is a bit beyond what Koha can do |
| 13:40 | oleonard | Hm, so I guess we have rounded toolbar buttons now in the staff client. |
| 13:43 | jcamins: How are your XSLT skills? That 775 bug has me stumped. | |
| 13:43 | jcamins | oleonard: they're not bad. |
| 13:43 | oleonard | the same problem happens in both the OPAC and the staff client if you get a chance to take a look. |
| 13:44 | jcamins | Did I write that? |
| 13:44 | Please tell me I didn't write that. | |
| 13:45 | Nope. Wasn't me. | |
| 13:46 | oleonard: talljoy: I'm going to speculate on your web browser of choice... | |
| 13:46 | Firefox? | |
| 13:46 | wahanui | i guess Firefox is so much better for maximep's use case of opening hundreds of tabs in tab groups. Chrome couldn't do that |
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| 13:46 | oleonard | Yes |
| 13:46 | talljoy | yup firefox |
| 13:47 | was first seen in Opera tho | |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Probably also doesn't handle XHTML properly. |
| 13:47 | oleonard | Looks the same to me in Chrome |
| 13:47 | jcamins | Hmmm... are we marking that page XHTML? |
| 13:47 | nengard | leaving the US for the UK tomorrow!!!! |
| 13:48 | :) | |
| 13:48 | jcamins | We are. |
| 13:48 | Eh. | |
| 13:48 | Easy enough to fix, anyway. | |
| 13:48 | It's now on my to-do list. | |
| 13:49 | oleonard: actually, I'm putting it back on you're to-do list. | |
| 13:49 | I need to make breakfast. | |
| 13:49 | On line 733, see the with-param? | |
| 13:50 | oleonard | Yes |
| 13:50 | jcamins | Instead of just being 't' it should be 'a_t' |
| 13:50 | That's an underscore. | |
| 13:52 | Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.1 and 3.6.4 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0 | |
| 13:52 | chris_n | don't want rangi to age too fast ;-) |
| 13:52 | oleonard | Okay, that fixes the markup problem and outputs the contents of 775$a to the screen. But the term isn't added to the href |
| 13:53 | jcamins: Something on line 729? | |
| 13:54 | * oleonard | can wait if jcamins has to bake some crumpets |
| 13:54 | maximep | :S |
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| 13:59 | Barrc | Hello all - I got a strange one, koha 3.06.02.000, some bibs show twice (that is the exact same bib number) on staff and OPAC. Rebuilding the indexes sorts out the problem but it reappears after a while and an only a full reindex resolves. Anyone any ideas? |
| 14:00 | hdl | Barrc: multiple Local-number definition in your etc/zebradb/marcflavour/biblios/record.abs |
| 14:00 | paul_p | Barrc yes, me. how much do you give me for the answer ? |
| 14:00 | hdl | may lead to that. |
| 14:01 | paul_p | hdl gave the answer for free :D |
| 14:01 | hdl | And God knows paul_p is much more open to Grace than I |
| 14:02 | paul_p | this usually happens when Local-number is defined for 2 fields in your record.abs. In this case, zebra make mistake when updating (ie= it searches on Local-number #2, while it had previously stored the record with identifier from Local-number #1) |
| 14:02 | so, zebra think it's not a modification, but a new record. And you get 2 ! | |
| 14:02 | HTH | |
| 14:02 | Barrc | Thanks guys - I will look at that. Pay for play, a IRC first! |
| 14:03 | It does!. thanks! | |
| 14:03 | hdl | Insert Coins... |
| 14:03 | paul_p | Barrc = you can pay with some signoff (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]noff&sharer_id=1) |
| 14:03 | hdl | Same player shoot again |
| 14:04 | * paul_p | has to leave for an hour (meeting with a doctor ;-) ) |
| 14:07 | jcamins | oleonard: the best thing to do is copy the f773 code from the 773 section, and change it to f775 and use that. |
| 14:08 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]73b6cdcb1a0746320> / Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f902d35e89085ef54> / Bug 8128 - [SIGNED-OFF]Followup - Change default value for cache_expiry <http |
| 14:09 | jcamins | Hm. I couldn't find the second patch for bug 7318 in master. |
| 14:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7318 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Passed QA , Filtering Patron Card Creator by Category Code Does Nothing |
| 14:09 | jcamins | I wonder why. |
| 14:16 | Barrc | hdl: There is no multiple local-number definition in the record.abs - any other ideas? |
| 14:16 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #733 for job Koha_master (previous build: FAILURE -- last SUCCESS #731 1 day 16 hr ago) |
| 14:16 | jcamins | Barrc: duplicate 999s. |
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| 14:17 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 14:17 | Barrc | no identical, differnt subfields. |
| 14:18 | hdl | are your values number only and unique ? |
| 14:18 | chris_n | jcmains: there is one patch to fix the controller code and another to fix the view |
| 14:18 | * chris_n | whips out his mvc lingo |
| 14:19 | Barrc | melm 999$c Local-Number:n,Local-Number:w,Local-Number:s |
| 14:19 | melm 999$d biblioitemnumber:n,biblioitemnumber:w,biblioitemnumber:s | |
| 14:19 | chris_n | jcamins: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]18&action=viewall |
| 14:19 | looks like one may have been obsoleted by accident... | |
| 14:19 | jcamins | chris_n: no, I obsoleted the one that was already pushed. |
| 14:19 | chris_n | opps |
| 14:19 | :-) | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Barrc: I mean your records have two 999 fields. |
| 14:20 | huginn` | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7127> |
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| 14:21 | Barrc | Of course; sorry. Yes. I am not with it today. That is the problem - back to the cataloguer so! Thanks, I really should have spotted that. |
| 14:22 | chris_n | jcamins: it appears to have been squashed into a single patch |
| 14:22 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]13b60d704e4c8cd83 | |
| 14:22 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #733: STILL FAILING in 6 min 10 sec: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/733/ |
| 14:22 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Fix check_additem when UniqueItemFields is empty | |
| 14:22 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Do not fill items table with "(undefined)" | |
| 14:22 | * srdjan: bug_7398: Replaced OPACDisplayRequestPriority syspref with OPACShowHoldQueueDetails | |
| 14:22 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7398 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 14:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Improve order item creation |
| 14:22 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 8128 - can't seem to run new sql reports |
| 14:22 | * kyle: Bug 8128 - [SIGNED-OFF]Followup - Change default value for cache_expiry | |
| 14:22 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir | |
| 14:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Show number of holds on a biblio in the OPAC details |
| 14:23 | jenkins_koha | * kyle: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import |
| 14:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8128 blocker, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , can't seem to run new sql reports |
| 14:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8135 critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install | |
| 14:23 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import | |
| 14:23 | jwagner | Barrc, But 6657 |
| 14:23 | chris_n | note that the changes from the remaining patch are in that commit as well |
| 14:23 | jwagner | Bug 6657 |
| 14:23 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6657 major, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Making 999 visible in framework duplicates 999 entry and affects index |
| 14:23 | chris_n | jcamins: i'd just cherry-pick that commit and be done |
| 14:23 | jcamins | chris_n: you mean apply it off the bug? |
| 14:23 | That makes sense. | |
| 14:23 | chris_n | no |
| 14:23 | I'd revert the first patch and grab the whole commit from master | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | I didn't cherry pick either patch yet, because I couldn't find the second, and was confused by that. |
| 14:24 | chris_n | ahh |
| 14:24 | in that case I'd just grab it from master | |
| 14:24 | jcamins | I guess perhaps they could've been squashed together. |
| 14:24 | Barrc | jwanger: Thanks, i did search for bugs but the query I used wasn't exact enough. |
| 14:24 | chris_n | jcamins: probably by whoever committed them to master |
| 14:24 | oleonard | Whoa, since when does huginn` prompt about needs signoff again? That's great. |
| 14:25 | chris_n | jcamins: bad practice, that... imho :-) |
| 14:27 | weirdness abounds... the commit to master is also missing rangi's sign-off | |
| 14:28 | jcamins | Perhaps I'll just use git-bz to get the two patches. |
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| 15:03 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:12 | magnuse | sorry for the bz spam... |
| 15:12 | jcamins | magnuse: if you're closing bugs, you are forgiven. |
| 15:13 | magnuse | sorry, i'm not |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Aww. |
| 15:13 | magnuse | just trying to get an overview of all bugs related to deleting records |
| 15:13 | jcamins | Ah. |
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| 15:41 | paul_p | i'm back |
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| 16:00 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 16:00 | I think I managed to set up an apt repo! | |
| 16:01 | * oleonard | gives jcamins a special-edition DVD of "Repo Man" to celebrate |
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| 16:05 | magnus_afk | jcamins: feel like sharing your discoveries? on the wiki for example? |
| 16:07 | jcamins | magnus_afk: it's very easy. Shamelessly crib off of someone else's files. |
| 16:09 | I guess now I should set up GPG for package signing. | |
| 16:10 | liw | should I cover setting up an apt repo in the kohacon debian packaging tutorial? |
| 16:11 | jcamins, did you use reprepro? | |
| 16:11 | jcamins | liw: I think that would be very useful. |
| 16:11 | I did. | |
| 16:11 | Well, am. | |
| 16:11 | :) | |
| 16:12 | Bah. | |
| 16:12 | I forgot the VMs don't have much entropy. | |
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| 16:19 | oleonard | Hi zioha |
| 16:19 | chris_n | lunch.... |
| 16:19 | wahanui | i guess lunch is a good idea :) |
| 16:19 | chris_n | as Pooh says |
| 16:19 | zioha | hi oleonard |
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| 16:49 | jcamins | liw: can you suggest anywhere I might find a very basic introduction to gpg-agent and/or debsign? |
| 16:49 | (specifically, whatever I need to know to sign my packages and apt repo) | |
| 16:49 | It's kind of confusing. | |
| 16:50 | liw | jcamins, if you use any modern Linux desktop, you should have a gpg agent running (possibly seahorse for gnome); add "use-agent" to your gpg config file, and it will be used |
| 16:50 | to sign an upload, "debsign *.changes" should work | |
| 16:51 | jcamins | Oh, is that what gpg-agent means? |
| 16:51 | Thanks. | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | liw++ |
| 16:52 | liw | for signing an apt repo with reprepro, create a key and then add "SignWith: CAFEF00D" to your conf/distributions file for each distro (replace with your own keyid, of course) |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Based on the tutorial I was reading, I thought there was a special (separate) gpg-agent program for reprepro. |
| 16:52 | liw | ah no, should be the sam eone |
| 16:55 | jcamins | Hm. It keeps on giving me a "bad passphrase" error, but never asks for a passphrase. |
| 16:55 | Oh, I think I found the problem. | |
| 16:59 | * jcamins | found another problem, too. |
| 17:01 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 17:01 | It worked! | |
| 17:01 | Now I have to figure out how to remove the gpg I created wrong. | |
| 17:01 | * chris_n | needs some of what jcamins had for lunch |
| 17:02 | jcamins | chris_n: what? |
| 17:02 | * wizzyrea | suspects he had "the joy of discovery" for lunch |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Success juice? |
| 17:02 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:02 | chris_n | whatever caused you to find all of those problems |
| 17:02 | jcamins | chris_n: finding *problems* is easy. |
| 17:02 | It's finding solutions that's more difficult. | |
| 17:02 | wizzyrea | not with liw around :) |
| 17:02 | jcamins | True. |
| 17:02 | oleonard | Felix Felicis |
| 17:02 | jcamins | liw++ |
| 17:03 | Okay, I guess this extra gpg key isn't hurting anything. | |
| 17:03 | liw | correct, it shouldn't matter |
| 17:03 | gpg --delete-key and gpg --delete-secret-key are there for removing keys, if you want to, though I'm not sure I've ever used them | |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Oh... I think maybe I got this backwards and that's why that key wasn't working... |
| 17:04 | The key id I put after SignWith: ... should that be the public key or the private key? | |
| 17:06 | liw | the key id is the same |
| 17:06 | wizzyrea | http://www.cnx-software.com/20[…]pc-usbhdmi-stick/ |
| 17:06 | had to share, that's pretty wicked. | |
| 17:07 | jcamins | It is? |
| 17:07 | Uh-oh. I think I'm doing something wrong. | |
| 17:07 | When I generated a key, I ended up with a "pub" line and a "sub" line. | |
| 17:09 | * jcamins | figures it out. |
| 17:09 | jcamins | Maybe. |
| 17:10 | liw | pub is the public key, sub is a sub-key |
| 17:10 | you only need to care about the if for the public key | |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 17:10 | liw | well, technically pub is the public part of the main key, and sub is the public part of the sub-key |
| 17:11 | * jcamins | adds and deletes a package from the repo repeatedly. |
| 17:11 | liw | if you do "gpg --list-secret-keys" you'll see sec and ssb instead of pub and sub |
| 17:12 | jcamins | Is it better to use debsign or dpkg-sign? |
| 17:12 | liw | debsign |
| 17:13 | I don't even seem to have a dpkg-sign :) | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 17:13 | Thanks. :) | |
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| 17:20 | sekjal | just had the displeasure of searching our Aleph OPAC for a generic term. |
| 17:21 | seems that, the larger the result set for your query, the longer it takes to return anything. | |
| 17:21 | jcamins | sekjal: that favored poetry journal, "The"? |
| 17:22 | sekjal | was trying "physics" and "theory", at a few dozen thousand each. results in 30-45 seconds (the first time) |
| 17:22 | searched 'the' on a Koha install... 355576 results in 4 seconds | |
| 17:22 | jcamins | Wow that's depressing. |
| 17:22 | sekjal | yeah |
| 17:23 | jcamins | As is the rain. |
| 17:23 | sekjal | I think Aleph does all it's indexing in the DB |
| 17:23 | so it needs insane amounts of diskspace, and it's still slower than mud | |
| 17:24 | say what you will about Zebra, at least it's FAST | |
| 17:32 | jcamins | liw: why would I use dput? |
| 17:33 | liw | jcamins, it makes it easier to upload the right files to the repo: you give it the changes file and it finds the right files to upload from that (and also checks that you haven't forgotten to sign) |
| 17:33 | jcamins | Gotcha. |
| 17:39 | Oak | night. |
| 17:55 | jcamins | liw: how does dput know which distribution I want to upload the file to? |
| 17:57 | liw | jcamins, dput doesn't care, it just puts the files in the right place; reprepro gets it from the Distribution: header in the .changes file, and it gets put there by dpkg-genchanges and that gets it from debian/changelog |
| 17:57 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 17:57 | I guess that means I have to change it in debian/changelog. | |
| 17:58 | liw | you can change the .changes file before signing it with debsign, but it's generally better to change debian/chanelog |
| 17:59 | jcamins | I guess I also have to figure out what goes in conf/incoming |
| 17:59 | Yay! | |
| 17:59 | I figured that out! | |
| 18:00 | liw | jcamins, excellent .) |
| 18:00 | jcamins | Except for the changelog bit. |
| 18:01 | I mean, I now understand where it needs to be changed, but I don't know exactly how to change it. | |
| 18:02 | I think eythian must have some sort of script to do that. | |
| 18:03 | Ah, build-git-snapshot does it. | |
| 18:04 | liw | I use the dch tool and a text editor to maintain my debian/changelog, plus scripts like biuld-git-snapshot when it needs to happen automatically |
| 18:06 | jcamins | I think it's going to take a bit of time for me to get this fully automated. |
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| 18:07 | * magnus_afk | whispers something almost inaudible about documentation and the wiki, then wanders off |
| 18:08 | jcamins | Well, since I forgot about the translations until too late, the release won't be until tomorrow morning anyway. |
| 18:08 | magnus_away: once I figure out how to do everything, I'll put it on the wiki. | |
| 18:08 | The reason I haven't automated it yet is I'm not yet sure it works. | |
| 18:22 | wizzyrea | What do you all think of the ability to add user entered titles to lists in the OPAC? |
| 18:22 | And what i mean is, the user types in the title/author of the book | |
| 18:22 | in the list, the title would be linked to a search for those terms | |
| 18:22 | (since it's not linked to a specific item) | |
| 18:23 | jcamins | I think that would be very useful. |
| 18:23 | wizzyrea | the idea being that users could keep lists of things that are, for example, not published yet, and not in the catalog |
| 18:23 | oleonard | Or for maintaining complete lists of things like award-winners which the library may not have all of |
| 18:24 | wizzyrea | also a good use for it |
| 18:24 | jcamins | Also useful for something like Hamlet. |
| 18:24 | On a summer reading list | |
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| 18:25 | wizzyrea | so I should uh, file an enh bug for that then >.> |
| 18:25 | oleonard | Naw, sounds pointless :P |
| 18:26 | * oleonard | kicks over a trash can for emphasis |
| 18:26 | jcamins | If you have a big highschool class, pointing them all to the same edition of Hamlet is pointless. |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:26 | jcamins | You'll end up with an absurd waiting list. |
| 18:26 | wizzyrea | that's why you get mulitple copies of the same edition |
| 18:26 | or frbrize your results :P | |
| 18:27 | isn't ferber the cry it out guy. | |
| 18:27 | jcamins | wizzyrea: multiple copies, yes, but if you're not having the students read any of the scholarly apparatus, they could read any of the fifty editions that were purchased over the last century and a half. |
| 18:27 | wizzyrea | sure sure :) |
| 18:28 | jcamins | And the FRBRized display would be perfect, but we don't have a details view that uses it, do we? |
| 18:28 | wizzyrea | don't we? I thought we did. |
| 18:28 | using OCLC | |
| 18:29 | jcamins | I haven't really used xISBN at all. |
| 18:29 | I didn't think it consolidated results on the details page, though. | |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | not under the "editions" tab? |
| 18:30 | jcamins | Right, you have to click through, yes? |
| 18:30 | I'm thinking "I want a copy of Hamlet that is available now." | |
| 18:30 | With a search, you have a nice green "Copies available for loan" on a particular edition, if there are copies available. | |
| 18:31 | I will turn on xISBN and see what I see. Hold on while I switch databases. | |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]iblionumber=55804 |
| 18:31 | no need | |
| 18:31 | :)) | |
| 18:31 | jcamins | Oh, you have it on. |
| 18:31 | Excellent! | |
| 18:31 | Yeah, that's exactly what I was picturing. | |
| 18:32 | You have a CSS issue. | |
| 18:32 | It doesn't tell you which of those other editions has a copy available. | |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | right, might be able to add it though |
| 18:32 | jcamins | When you click on a tab, it loses its border. |
| 18:32 | That'd also be very snazzy. :) | |
| 18:32 | Very, very snazzy. | |
| 18:33 | Exceedingly snazzy. | |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | mmm no it doesn't the border is light light grey |
| 18:33 | jcamins | You're right. |
| 18:33 | At an angle of 5 degrees it has a border. | |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | could possibly be improved though. |
| 18:33 | jcamins | No border is visible past fifteen degrees. :) |
| 18:35 | * jcamins | mutters imprecations about memcached. |
| 18:36 | jcamins | We need a "flush cache" button somewhere. |
| 18:38 | What's the Related tab from? LT? | |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | amazon I think |
| 18:40 | oleonard | But amazon content is broken? |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | sometimes? |
| 18:40 | reviews definitely are | |
| 18:40 | oleonard | Only covers work now |
| 18:40 | The API changed and no one updated Koha to match | |
| 18:40 | wizzyrea | sometimes we get a related |
| 18:40 | and we get title notes | |
| 18:40 | oleonard | Not from Amazon you don't |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Where do you get the title notes from? |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | au contraire, i'm looking at one |
| 18:41 | oleonard | ?! |
| 18:41 | wizzyrea | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]iblionumber=55804 |
| 18:41 | jcamins | 'Cause those title notes are pretty impressive. |
| 18:41 | * wizzyrea | is almost positive those are coming from amazon |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Ohhh. |
| 18:42 | Syndetics. | |
| 18:42 | No. | |
| 18:42 | wizzyrea | no syndetics in our catalog |
| 18:42 | jcamins | LTFL? |
| 18:43 | Huh. | |
| 18:43 | Amazon. | |
| 18:44 | I didn't think that worked. | |
| 18:44 | Those are nice. | |
| 18:44 | Maybe I need to enable that. | |
| 18:47 | oleonard | Why not for this book? http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=126609 |
| 18:47 | * oleonard | looked for a record in both our catalogs |
| 18:48 | * wizzyrea | doesn't know |
| 18:49 | jcamins | Gnomes. |
| 18:49 | Or elves. | |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | it's not in the MARC |
| 18:50 | for hamlet | |
| 18:50 | jcamins | No, definitely not in the MARC. |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | but you know there's nothing in the preferences about title notes from amazon |
| 18:50 | period | |
| 18:51 | jcamins | It's just AmazonEnabled. |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea | yup, sho nuff. |
| 18:52 | I just turned it off and the title notes disappeared (it's back now) | |
| 18:53 | oleonard | Not back on this one: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]iblionumber=55804 |
| 18:54 | wizzyrea | oh, it's, weirdly |
| 18:54 | reviews | |
| 18:58 | oleonard: should be back on now | |
| 18:59 | also, oleonard - on this one too: http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=126609 | |
| 18:59 | so if you turn off reviews, you lose title notes | |
| 18:59 | that seems… not right. | |
| 19:00 | jcamins | wizzyrea: well, it's retrieving editorial reviews from Amazon, so that does make a certain amount of sense. |
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| 19:37 | gonzalo | hello :D |
| 19:37 | i have any question :C | |
| 19:39 | jcamins | gonzalo: ask your question, and if anyone can answer, they will. |
| 19:40 | * jcamins | posts a patch for bug 6557 |
| 19:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
| 19:40 | jcamins | nengard: you might like that one. :) |
| 19:40 | nengard | a patch????? |
| 19:40 | wahanui | rumour has it a patch is pretty old now, good luck |
| 19:40 | nengard | jcamins++ |
| 19:40 | jcamins | nengard: well, three, actually. |
| 19:41 | nengard | catching up on emails (including bug emails) now before heaing to uk tomorrow |
| 19:41 | will get to that one soon | |
| 19:41 | jcamins | :) |
| 19:41 | Are you flying into EDI? | |
| 19:44 | nengard | no |
| 19:44 | Manchester | |
| 19:44 | and staying with friends near there for a week | |
| 19:44 | (ish) | |
| 19:44 | jcamins | Nifty. I was on a train that went through Manchester. |
| 19:44 | That's all the time I spent there, though. | |
| 19:46 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 19:46 | wahanui | morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:47 | wizzyrea | mornin |
| 19:47 | rangi | Hmm |
| 19:48 | * rangi | will fix Jenkins at work |
| 19:50 | rangi | chilts: u in town today? |
| 19:55 | gonzalo | the users save in database u other file? |
| 19:55 | slef | was about to ask how nengard was getting to EDI but then remember the car hire question |
| 19:56 | jcamins | nengard: remember they drive on the wrong side of the road! ;) |
| 19:56 | slef | shouldn't need a GPS for MAN-EDI: M6, A74, A702 from memory. |
| 19:56 | nengard | i've driven in england before |
| 19:56 | and NZ | |
| 19:56 | :) | |
| 19:56 | slef | I will drive in the US for the first time later this year. |
| 19:56 | mbalmer | RFID and SIP2 will be my topics. sigh. |
| 19:56 | nengard | slef, i'm driving around buxton and ? i forget the other town and then to York and then New Castle area and then EDI |
| 19:56 | slef where you going/coming? | |
| 19:57 | mbalmer | topics for the Koha Highland Gamn |
| 19:57 | slef | It will be my first time driving on the right and my first time in ages, if ever, in an automatic. |
| 19:57 | mbalmer | Games, that is. |
| 19:57 | slef | mbalmer: sorry to upset you, but Edinburgh is on the coast, not the highlands ;-) |
| 19:57 | mbalmer | heh, I know... |
| 19:57 | slef | nengard: Atlanta to Miami |
| 19:57 | rangi | I can't imagine drivers in the UK could be as insane as nz |
| 19:58 | slef | rangi: hahahahahahaahah |
| 19:58 | I've been driving far too much lately, what with the coast-to-coast move. | |
| 19:58 | I've now a very dim view of other drivers. | |
| 19:58 | The best time to drive is when no bugger else is around. | |
| 19:58 | rangi | The US driving was a breeze compared to here |
| 19:59 | gonzalo | what is the table for save users |
| 19:59 | ? | |
| 19:59 | rangi | Borrowers |
| 19:59 | slef | rangi: you have challenging roads in NZ :) but it is pretty quiet |
| 19:59 | rangi | True |
| 19:59 | nengard | slef driving down there will be fine |
| 19:59 | it's going north from there that you have the crazies (like me) :) | |
| 19:59 | gonzalo | i need the change password |
| 19:59 | but for database | |
| 20:00 | slef | rangi: most of the UK is much much busier :-/ |
| 20:00 | jcamins | gonzalo: for changing users' password, you need to use Koha. |
| 20:00 | rangi | I'll take the bus |
| 20:00 | jcamins | The database password is managed by MySQL, so you just have to change it using MySQL, and then adjust the koha-conf.xml configuration file. |
| 20:00 | chris_n | heya rangi, slef |
| 20:01 | rangi | Heya Chris_n |
| 20:01 | slef | rangi: bus is good for short journeys, or where there is no rail. |
| 20:02 | wow... if you blank your user-agent, wikipedia refuses to talk to you | |
| 20:02 | rangi | Yep, I have the edi bus app on my phone |
| 20:02 | gonzalo | jcamins: what is the table for save users? |
| 20:03 | chris_n | a cool irc feature would be a hint when you hover over a username giving that user's current TOD |
| 20:03 | jcamins | gonzalo: borrowers, but knowing that is not going to help. |
| 20:03 | First question? | |
| 20:03 | wahanui | "What are you trying to do?" "What is the goal?" or "What problem are you experiencing?" |
| 20:04 | rangi | Conveniently the bus from my hotel to the uni goes close to nengard's hotel |
| 20:04 | nengard | :) |
| 20:04 | jcamins | rangi: where are you staying? |
| 20:04 | nengard | convenient for me :) cause I'm staying away from buses if I can |
| 20:04 | slef | chris_n: Time Of Death? |
| 20:04 | rangi | The cairn hotel |
| 20:04 | chris_n | ouch! |
| 20:04 | time of day... hopefully :) | |
| 20:05 | slef | chris_n: have I been watching too many policiers? |
| 20:05 | nengard | hehe |
| 20:05 | chris_n | lol |
| 20:05 | slef | chris_n: /ctcp NICKNAME time |
| 20:05 | jcamins | rangi: wow, way up Leith Walk. |
| 20:05 | chris_n | ahh... cool |
| 20:05 | rangi | Will be wrong for me |
| 20:06 | slef | yeah it's consensual too |
| 20:06 | rangi | Cos I am relaying |
| 20:06 | jcamins | Okay, not that far. |
| 20:06 | rangi | Thru bugs |
| 20:06 | chris_n | ahh |
| 20:06 | rangi | 9 mins on bus apparently |
| 20:07 | With a little walk either end | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | 9 minutes? Huh. I would've thought it would be a bit longer. |
| 20:08 | * jcamins | rarely went north of Princes Street. |
| 20:09 | rangi | I take timetables with a grain of salt |
| 20:09 | :) | |
| 20:09 | Oh yeah | |
| 20:09 | There is tipping in UK eh? | |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Yeah, though not so generous as in the US. |
| 20:11 | gonzalo | i need change password for admin user |
| 20:11 | how do ? | |
| 20:11 | slef | jcamins: 10% for good service IIRC |
| 20:11 | rangi | I never remember who u are supposed to tip |
| 20:12 | Taxis eh? | |
| 20:12 | oleonard | Web developers |
| 20:12 | rangi | Heh |
| 20:12 | jcamins | gonzalo: if for the database administrator user, you have to change the password using mysqladmin (or the like). |
| 20:12 | slef | oleonard: no, you bitch and whine at them. |
| 20:12 | rangi | By kind to your mother |
| 20:12 | slef | oleonard: same as everywhere. |
| 20:12 | rangi | There's ur tip |
| 20:12 | * oleonard | is back from hearing a sales pitch on Freeding and Freegal |
| 20:13 | gonzalo | jcamins: i need change password for koha user no for database |
| 20:13 | slef | rangi: restaurant waiters/waitresses, taxis, hotel chambermaid... |
| 20:13 | rangi | Same thing |
| 20:13 | Ahhh | |
| 20:13 | jcamins | gonzalo: then you have to log into Koha with your database user and change the user's password. |
| 20:13 | slef | rangi: tour guides are inconsistent I think |
| 20:14 | rangi | Yeah |
| 20:14 | slef | "Visitors from The US and Canada are seen as very generous tippers and even a bit of a soft touch by some" http://wikitravel.org/en/United_Kingdom |
| 20:14 | rangi | Ok my stop brb |
| 20:14 | Nzers as stingy | |
| 20:15 | slef | only because you can't cope with the £ |
| 20:15 | gonzalo | jcamins: but what is the table users ? |
| 20:15 | slef | hehehe I love these tips |
| 20:15 | "Don't tap money on the bar surface to attract the barman's attention." | |
| 20:15 | jcamins | gonzalo: I'm sorry, I don't think I can help. |
| 20:15 | gonzalo | ok thanks :d |
| 20:16 | slef | "In the male toilets, especially in big pubs or clubs, don't try to strike up conversation or make prolonged eye contact." |
| 20:16 | jcamins | gonzalo: user information is stored in the borrowers table, but I think you're looking for something else that I don't know the answer to. |
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| 20:16 | wizzyrea | nzers are stingy because they don't tip because people there make a living wage, or so the cultural advice claims. |
| 20:16 | wait that sentence made no sense. | |
| 20:16 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 20:16 | wizzyrea | clearly I am too hungry and tired to speak. |
| 20:16 | slef | ooh good idea... dinnertime |
| 20:16 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you should have some spanakopita. |
| 20:17 | Or cookies. | |
| 20:17 | wahanui | Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 20:17 | jcamins | Or both! |
| 20:17 | slef | aaaaah coookies! |
| 20:17 | don't talk to me about cookies! | |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | nzers aren't stingy, they just don't tip because people make a living wage. |
| 20:17 | jcamins | slef: have a biscuit. |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | don't need tips to pad their wages. |
| 20:17 | jcamins | slef: better? |
| 20:17 | gonzalo | What is the table that stores the users of koha? |
| 20:17 | wizzyrea | borrowers |
| 20:17 | slef | supposedly the cookie law is being enforced from Friday |
| 20:18 | so I've been discovering which sites still are sending cookies without asking permission | |
| 20:18 | and trying to fix them | |
| 20:19 | * oleonard | is back to wondering how wizzyrea can have Amazon title notes and he can't |
| 20:19 | oleonard | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]blionumber=285498 |
| 20:19 | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=58601 | |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | 3.6.4? |
| 20:20 | wahanui | 3.6.4 is the current stable version |
| 20:20 | slef | rangi: I think up to 10% tip in restaurants, maybe similar in taxis but maximum a few pounds, a small note in hotels... and all only if the service was good. |
| 20:21 | wizzyrea | oleonard: what version do you have? |
| 20:21 | oleonard | 3.6.1 |
| 20:21 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe it was fixed between 3.6.1 and 3.6.4? |
| 20:21 | * oleonard | wonders how wizzyrea rated an upgrade and he didn't |
| 20:21 | rangi | slef: thank you :) |
| 20:21 | slef | "Most cities have designated cycle-lanes although they are routinely ignored by drivers" :) |
| 20:21 | oleonard | Who has worked on the Amazon API at all in the last 3 or 4 years? No one that I know of. |
| 20:22 | jcamins | oleonard: good question. |
| 20:22 | wizzyrea | I had the friendly people at bywater do it for me |
| 20:22 | rangi | oleonard: i gave up when they kept changing it |
| 20:23 | woot git-annex-assistant passed 100%! | |
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| 20:24 | francharb_afk | http://wikitravel.org/en/United_Kingdom : I love the eat section -> Fish and chips ... Curry ... Children... |
| 20:25 | jcamins | oleonard: maybe some of the ... |
| 20:25 | francharb_afk | is it common to eat children in the uk? |
| 20:25 | jcamins | francharb_afk: I recommend against eating that last. |
| 20:25 | :D | |
| 20:25 | francharb_afk | ;) |
| 20:25 | slef | francharb_afk: I like children. But I couldn't eat a whole one. |
| 20:25 | jcamins | oleonard: anyway, maybe it was some of the ISBN cleaning stuff? |
| 20:25 | ASUSunDevil | hey all, I was here a couple days ago asking questions about installing Koha 3.8, I have decided to go with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server. I'm set now to start the install process, and was wondering if this guide is appropriate for doing this install (even thought it's for 3.4): http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages . Also the guide seems to be for an olde vesion of |
| 20:25 | Ubuntu as well. Or is there a good document to follow for the installation on this platform using packages? | |
| 20:26 | rangi | ASUSunDevil: use the one for debian, it will work fine for 12.04 |
| 20:26 | lemme get it for you | |
| 20:26 | slef | ASUSunDevil: the INSTALL or INSTALL.debian files in the download should be OK. |
| 20:26 | rangi | packages? |
| 20:26 | wahanui | i think packages is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
| 20:27 | slef | or that |
| 20:27 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 20:27 | ASUSunDevil | awesome...thank you! |
| 20:27 | rangi | if you want to do some testing |
| 20:27 | https://code.launchpad.net/~ch[…]/3.8.x-dailybuild | |
| 20:28 | slef | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]y:Debian_Packages |
| 20:28 | francharb_afk | "Urinating in public is now against the law" |
| 20:28 | now? | |
| 20:28 | wahanui | i think now is good time with holidays coming up |
| 20:28 | francharb_afk | was it that common? |
| 20:28 | ;) | |
| 20:28 | ASUSunDevil | I was running 3.4, but was having some issues, and it was suggested to me to upgrade to 3.8, since Ubuntu and Debian seem to be the standard distros used, I wanted to keep it standard. I'l follow the debian document... thanks again! |
| 20:28 | jcamins | rangi: ooh, can you have periods and numbers in distribution names? |
| 20:29 | slef | francharb_afk: still is... |
| 20:29 | francharb_afk | I live in france, the no public toilet country |
| 20:29 | rangi | ASUSunDevil: there are packages for precise there, in that ppa, but its my daily build of 3.8.x so tracks ahead of the release slightly |
| 20:29 | slef | francharb_afk: mostly after pubs close on Fri and Sat |
| 20:29 | francharb_afk: hey, bestiality only became illegal here in 1994! | |
| 20:29 | sekjal | night, #koha |
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| 20:29 | slef | bye |
| 20:29 | francharb_afk | slef, guess it's the same here... |
| 20:30 | oleonard | night, #koha |
| 20:30 | jcamins | Smoking in pubs is illegal in Edinburgh. |
| 20:30 | francharb_afk | ++ |
| 20:30 | slef | smoking in any indoor space is illegal I think? |
| 20:30 | in all of UK | |
| 20:30 | francharb_afk | smoking should be illegal anyway |
| 20:30 | ;) | |
| 20:30 | jcamins | slef: I don't know, but I was first there, pubs were so smoky I couldn't bring myself to go to them with friends. |
| 20:31 | slef | exception of some hotel rooms (enquire when booking) |
| 20:31 | jcamins | *when I was first there |
| 20:31 | When I went back, all pubs were smoke free, which meant that pub-based socialization was possible. | |
| 20:31 | slef | jcamins: yeah, it's much better, except that you cannot smoke a kipper for breakfast while on your night out. |
| 20:32 | francharb_afk | slef, by the way, I've got a workshop proposal for the hackfest. is it still ok to propose it? |
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| 20:32 | jcamins | Wow. School is out. |
| 20:32 | francharb_afk | alice cooper? |
| 20:32 | ;) | |
| 20:32 | slef | francharb_afk: maybe. Look at the schedule on the wiki. I can't remember. |
| 20:33 | francharb_afk | oki |
| 20:33 | slef, it's more about feature testing that coding... | |
| 20:34 | slef | "exchange your Scottish notes for Bank of England notes before you leave the country." |
| 20:34 | rangi | http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/733/ |
| 20:34 | heh, we broke even on checkstyle | |
| 20:34 | slef | francharb_afk: sorry I must pass out now |
| 20:34 | rangi | fixed 40, broke 40 |
| 20:34 | francharb_afk | well, I will send something on the koha list to see if anybody is interesting! |
| 20:34 | and i need to sleep too | |
| 20:35 | I started this morning at 6:30 and it's 22:30... | |
| 20:35 | lol | |
| 20:35 | it's insane | |
| 20:35 | night all | |
| 20:35 | rangi | night francharb_afk |
| 20:36 | kathryn | morning |
| 20:36 | rangi | chris_n: sample quote data |
| 20:38 | oh nvm | |
| 20:38 | found it | |
| 20:39 | ASUSunDevil | rangi: following the debain squeeze install for Ubuntu 12.04, I issued the apt-get install koha-common and I get a complaint about linnet-z3950-zoom-perl, idzebra-2.0 and yaz not being installed. Is there a way I can get apt-get to install these dependencies? |
| 20:40 | rangi | interesting, those are not in precise? |
| 20:40 | do you have multiverse selected? | |
| 20:40 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: lib-net-z3950-zoom-perl? |
| 20:40 | ASUSunDevil | sorry, yes lib-net-z39050-zoom-perl |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | ASUSunDevil: I think there are instructions on the wiki for ubuntu |
| 20:40 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: okay, just checking it wasn't a typo in the package. |
| 20:41 | rangi | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/p[…]t-z3950-zoom-perl |
| 20:41 | its in precise | |
| 20:41 | check your sources.list | |
| 20:41 | jcamins | You need to enable "universe." |
| 20:41 | rangi | http://packages.ubuntu.com/pre[…]t-z3950-zoom-perl <-- its in the universer |
| 20:42 | -r | |
| 20:42 | ASUSunDevil | these are all enabled in sources.list: |
| 20:42 | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe | |
| 20:42 | deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe | |
| 20:42 | deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe | |
| 20:42 | deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe | |
| 20:43 | do I just need to add the one for lib-net... ? | |
| 20:43 | rangi | no its in the universe, can you cut and paste the exact error? |
| 20:43 | jcamins | According to the website, it's included in the first. |
| 20:44 | * rangi | tests on a precise vm |
| 20:44 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #734 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL FAILING -- last SUCCESS #731 1 day 22 hr ago) |
| 20:44 | ASUSunDevil | after I enter the "apt-get install koha-common", I get: |
| 20:44 | Reading package lists... Done | |
| 20:44 | Building dependency tree | |
| 20:44 | Reading state information... Done | |
| 20:44 | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have | |
| 20:44 | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable | |
| 20:44 | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created | |
| 20:44 | or been moved out of Incoming. | |
| 20:44 | The following information may help to resolve the situation: | |
| 20:44 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | |
| 20:44 | koha-common : Depends: libnet-z3950-zoom-perl but it is not going to be installed | |
| 20:44 | Depends: idzebra-2.0 but it is not going to be installed | |
| 20:44 | Depends: yaz but it is not going to be installed | |
| 20:44 | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | |
| 20:44 | kohaspllib:~$ |
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| 20:45 | rangi | weird, all three are in the universe |
| 20:45 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 i" (8 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/409 |
| 20:46 | rangi | what happens if you just apt-get install idzebra-2.0 |
| 20:47 | ASUSunDevil | oh, and something else, this is on an i386 machine, not an amd64 install |
| 20:47 | let me try that command | |
| 20:47 | rangi | http://packages.ubuntu.com/pre[…]t-z3950-zoom-perl <-- says for i386 and amd64 |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | ASUSunDevil: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ing_Koha_packages |
| 20:48 | it has you add the sources from indexdata | |
| 20:48 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: how much memory in the machine? |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea: but that's only for 10.04. | |
| 20:48 | I haven't needed to do that since 10.10 came out. | |
| 20:48 | rangi | wizzyrea: yeah, don't do that for 12.04 |
| 20:49 | ASUSunDevil | If I issue the apt-get for just idzebra, I get: |
| 20:49 | Reading package lists... Done | |
| 20:49 | Building dependency tree | |
| 20:49 | Reading state information... Done | |
| 20:49 | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have | |
| 20:49 | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable | |
| 20:49 | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created | |
| 20:49 | or been moved out of Incoming. | |
| 20:49 | The following information may help to resolve the situation: | |
| 20:49 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | |
| 20:49 | idzebra-2.0 : Depends: idzebra-2.0-utils (= 2.0.50-1indexdata) but it is not going to be installed | |
| 20:49 | Depends: libidzebra-2.0-modules but it is not going to be installed | |
| 20:49 | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | |
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| 20:49 | wizzyrea | i haven't done it on 12 yet |
| 20:49 | jcamins | wizzyrea: don't be offended! |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | i'm not! |
| 20:49 | rangi | theres something mucked up in your ubuntu |
| 20:49 | jcamins | wizzyrea: :) |
| 20:49 | rangi | but im not sure what |
| 20:49 | wizzyrea | my colloquy, ever since I got lion (curses!) goes funky sometimes |
| 20:49 | rangi | ive got a fix for that too wizzyrea :) |
| 20:50 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, fresh install, haven't really done anything but setup network and enabled a basic firewall using ufw... |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | me too ^.^ |
| 20:50 | I call it "a hammer" | |
| 20:50 | rangi | yeah, all those packages are in precise tho, in the universe so it seems weird |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | I call it "a hammer" |
| 20:50 | rangi | wizzyrea: i was gonna go with debian .. but that works too |
| 20:50 | jcamins | rangi: not that version, though. |
| 20:51 | rangi: maybe ASUSunDevil somehow managed to get sid packages? | |
| 20:51 | Not sid. | |
| 20:51 | Whatever the Ubuntu equivalent is. | |
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| 20:51 | rangi | quantal |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea joined #koha | |
| 20:51 | * wizzyrea | grumbles |
| 20:51 | jcamins | That's the one. |
| 20:51 | Quantal? | |
| 20:51 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, I'm going to reboot again just to be sure |
| 20:51 | rangi | dont do that |
| 20:51 | its not windows :) | |
| 20:51 | ASUSunDevil | lol |
| 20:52 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: how much RAM do you have? My rule of thumb is that there is no reason to use i386 anymore. |
| 20:52 | rangi | can you do |
| 20:52 | ASUSunDevil | I have 2gb on this machine, it's just a test machine, and it's just a 32bit machine.... |
| 20:52 | rangi | apt-cache-policy idzebra-2.0 |
| 20:53 | jcamins | ASUSunDevil: well, if it only supports i386, that's a good reason. |
| 20:53 | :) | |
| 20:54 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, apt-cache-policy: command not found |
| 20:55 | rangi | sorrry typo |
| 20:55 | apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 | |
| 20:55 | ASUSunDevil | kohaspllib:~$ apt-cache policy idzebra-2.0 |
| 20:55 | idzebra-2.0: | |
| 20:55 | Installed: (none) | |
| 20:55 | Candidate: 2.0.50-1indexdata | |
| 20:55 | Version table: | |
| 20:55 | 2.0.50-1indexdata 0 | |
| 20:55 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:55 | 2.0.49-1indexdata 0 | |
| 20:55 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:55 | 2.0.48-1indexdata 0 | |
| 20:55 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:55 | 2.0.47-1indexdata 0 | |
| 20:55 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:55 | rangi | ah ha!!! |
| 20:55 | ASUSunDevil | 2.0.45-1indexdata 0 |
| 20:55 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:55 | 2.0.44-3 0 | |
| 20:55 | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/universe i386 Packages | |
| 20:56 | 2.0.44-1indexdata 0 | |
| 20:56 | 500 http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu/ lucid/main i386 Packages | |
| 20:56 | rangi | you did did at the indexdata stuff |
| 20:56 | ASUSunDevil | kohaspllib:~$ |
| 20:56 | rangi | get rid of that ! |
| 20:56 | and do an apt-get update stuff again | |
| 20:56 | ASUSunDevil | oh, so get rid of: #Index Data (Zebra) sources |
| 20:56 | deb http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu lucid main | |
| 20:56 | deb-src http://ftp.indexdata.dk/ubuntu lucid main | |
| 20:56 | #Koha .deb packages (Koha-community) | |
| 20:56 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze-dev main | |
| 20:56 | rangi | yes those 2 lucid lines |
| 20:56 | burn with fire | |
| 20:56 | :) | |
| 20:57 | ASUSunDevil | leave the squeeze line? |
| 20:57 | rangi | yes but not squeeze-dev |
| 20:57 | just squeeze | |
| 20:57 | squeeze-dev will get you packages built from master | |
| 20:57 | jcamins | Sorry folks, 3.6.5 is going to be one day late. |
| 20:57 | rangi | squeeze is the stable branch .. 3.8.1 |
| 20:58 | ASUSunDevil | ok, let me try that... |
| 20:58 | rangi | you must have tried following the lucid instructions |
| 20:58 | jcamins | rangi: liw: could I have apt distributions called '3.6.x' and '3.6-testing'? |
| 20:59 | ASUSunDevil | originally I did, yes |
| 20:59 | jcamins | I'm afraid to try it because I got the repo working. |
| 20:59 | liw | jcamins, I don't see why not |
| 20:59 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 20:59 | I will try. | |
| 20:59 | ASUSunDevil | so, the only thing i have in sources.list is: |
| 20:59 | #Index Data (Zebra) sources | |
| 20:59 | deb http://debian.koha-community.org/koha squeeze main | |
| 20:59 | rangi | jcamins: we have staging and production distros |
| 20:59 | ASUSunDevil | other than the defaults, is that correct? |
| 21:00 | rangi | so yeah, cant see why not |
| 21:00 | looks correct me ASUSunDevil | |
| 21:00 | try an apt-get update | |
| 21:00 | then check the apt-cache policy again | |
| 21:00 | and if it says from precise this time, give the install another go | |
| 21:02 | ASUSunDevil | ok, let me try that really quick |
| 21:11 | ok, install is looking good, had something mucked up with my network settings after my reboot, but I got that fixed. It looks like the install via apt-get is working now... | |
| 21:11 | jcamins | Yay! 3.6.x works fine as a distribution code. |
| 21:15 | rangi | sweet |
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| 21:30 | jcamins | If I push . to @INC, will child processes inherit that? |
| 21:31 | rangi | i think so |
| 21:32 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #25 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 21:44 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 21:44 | Project Koha_master build #734: FIXED in 1 hr 0 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/734/ | |
| 21:48 | rangi | yay! |
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| 22:20 | chilts | rangi: yeah, on the way in now |
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| 22:21 | rangi | wanna meet for lunch? |
| 22:21 | chilts | yeah, sounds good |
| 22:21 | rangi | excellent |
| 22:21 | chilts | name a time and place and I'll be there |
| 22:21 | ASUSunDevil | rangi: ok, install via apt-get worked just fine, but now I'm having issues with the rest of the configuration/install... On the document: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze I am athe quickstart portion, but I'm not sure what I need to put in these areas...can you walk me through it to get the site running? |
| 22:21 | rangi | chilts: where's your office at? |
| 22:22 | jcamins | rangi: when did you create that page? |
| 22:22 | * jcamins | looks at thie history. |
| 22:22 | jcamins | It's good to have it updated to the current version. |
| 22:22 | rangi | that was eythian |
| 22:23 | jcamins | eythian++ |
| 22:24 | chilts | rangi: top of Willis St, so I'm accessible down your side of Willis |
| 22:24 | rangi | oh excellent |
| 22:24 | bristol at 12.30 ? | |
| 22:24 | chilts | top being the State Tower side ... but yeah, Bristol sounds good |
| 22:24 | rangi | excellent, see you then |
| 22:24 | chilts | I went to Bristol with Urvesh last week, but you probably never worked with him |
| 22:24 | saw TimW last week too :) | |
| 22:24 | tell you more later | |
| 22:24 | rangi | cool :) |
| 22:25 | ASUSunDevil: what bit is confusing you? | |
| 22:25 | heres what mine looks like | |
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| 22:26 | ASUSunDevil | well, for the koha-sites.conf file, I tried to put in some defaults the way I thought they should be, but it didn't seem to work. After completing the rest, I couldn't pull the site up in a browser. By the way, being this is a server, there is no X installed, so I am trying to access the site from a different compuer... |
| 22:27 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "koha-sites.conf" (4 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/410 |
| 22:27 | rangi | http://paste.koha-community.org/ <-- can you paste yours in here |
| 22:28 | ASUSunDevil | sure, give me a second... |
| 22:29 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #25: SUCCESS in 57 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/25/ |
| 22:29 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Fix check_additem when UniqueItemFields is empty | |
| 22:29 | * julian.maurice: Bug 7178 follow-up: Do not fill items table with "(undefined)" | |
| 22:29 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 8135 : Fix installer to copy services/ dir | |
| 22:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Improve order item creation |
| 22:29 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8135 critical, P1 - high, ---, chris, Pushed to Stable , Services Directory and itemrecorddisplay.pl File Missing After Install | |
| 22:29 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #26 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 22:29 | pastebot | "ASUSunDevil" at 129.219.55.204 pasted "koha-sites.conf" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/411 |
| 22:30 | rangi | id remove the defaultsql line |
| 22:30 | only needed if you're pre-populating from another Koha database | |
| 22:30 | ASUSunDevil | ok, remove the whole line? |
| 22:30 | rangi | other than that it looks ok |
| 22:31 | yep or comment it out with a # at the start | |
| 22:31 | ASUSunDevil | ok, commented it out. I want to admin site on the 8080 port and the public (opac) site on the 80 port, so those settings are ok? |
| 22:32 | rangi | yep |
| 22:33 | ASUSunDevil | ok, then the next thing I do is issue the a2enmod rewrite, it tells me that is already enabled, so am I good on that? |
| 22:33 | rangi | yup |
| 22:34 | ASUSunDevil | MySQL is already installed, so I can ignore that. I am not running a remote mysql server, so I skip the /etc/koha/passwrd file step, right? |
| 22:35 | rangi | yep |
| 22:37 | can you do me a quick check | |
| 22:37 | ASUSunDevil | ok, so now, I do the sudo koha-create --create-db biblio command, and I get: |
| 22:37 | kohaspllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db biblio |
|
| 22:37 | cat: /etc/koha/passwd: No such file or directory | |
| 22:37 | sed: -e expression #7, char 144: unterminated `s' command | |
| 22:37 | sure, what check? | |
| 22:37 | rangi | look in /etc/mysql is there a koha-common.cnf file ? |
| 22:38 | ASUSunDevil | yes, it is a symlink to debian.cnf |
| 22:38 | rangi | cool |
| 22:39 | in that case it does seem that you now need the /etc/koha/passwd file | |
| 22:39 | ASUSunDevil | ok, so in that file, what is the instancename supposed to be? |
| 22:40 | rangi | whateever you are planning to pass to koha-create .. looks like you want to call your koha site biblio |
| 22:40 | so biblio | |
| 22:40 | ASUSunDevil | whatabout the database name then, isn't that the same thing? |
| 22:40 | rangi | it is |
| 22:41 | ASUSunDevil | ok |
| 22:41 | rangi | so you are making biblio.la.asu.edu |
| 22:41 | by calling that koha-create command | |
| 22:41 | make sense? | |
| 22:41 | ASUSunDevil | oh, ok, actually I want it to be called spllib.la.asu.edu |
| 22:41 | rangi | then spllib is your instancename, and pass that to koha-create too |
| 22:42 | you can have multiple instances on one machine, using the packages | |
| 22:42 | all using the same code base, but different databases | |
| 22:42 | ASUSunDevil | so the first part and the last part in that /etc/koha/passwd is the same thing, in my case, right? |
| 22:43 | rangi | hmm? |
| 22:43 | ah yeas | |
| 22:43 | ASUSunDevil | ok, cool |
| 22:43 | rangi | i think so |
| 22:44 | ASUSunDevil | ok, so I ran the koha-create again, and I got: |
| 22:44 | kohaspllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db spllib |
|
| 22:44 | sed: -e expression #7, char 144: unterminated `s' command | |
| 22:46 | rangi | hmm no idea then, jcamins/ eythian any ideas? |
| 22:47 | ASUSunDevil | oh, I figured it out, there was a missing |
| 22:47 | " | |
| 22:47 | in my sites file | |
| 22:47 | rangi | ahhh |
| 22:47 | that would do it | |
| 22:47 | ASUSunDevil | ok, I did that command and I get: user spllib-koha already exits |
| 22:47 | this might be becuase I tried this a few times before coming back here...is there anything I need to do? | |
| 22:48 | rangi | can you do a mysqlshow -uroot -p |
| 22:48 | and see if it created the db | |
| 22:48 | ASUSunDevil | +--------------------+ |
| 22:48 | | Databases | | |
| 22:48 | +--------------------+ | |
| 22:48 | | information_schema | | |
| 22:48 | | koha_biblio | | |
| 22:48 | | mysql | | |
| 22:48 | | performance_schema | | |
| 22:48 | | spllib | | |
| 22:48 | | test | | |
| 22:48 | +--------------------+ | |
| 22:48 | looks like it did | |
| 22:48 | rangi | cool |
| 22:49 | try apache2ctl restart | |
| 22:49 | and then hit the site, and see if you get the web based installer | |
| 22:50 | ASUSunDevil | ok, just restared...I just get the default website "It Works!" on spl.la.asu.edu and if I try the :8080 port, nothing.... |
| 22:50 | this is where I was at when I came back....not sure where to go from here | |
| 22:50 | rangi | check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 22:51 | is there a splib file in there ? | |
| 22:52 | ASUSunDevil | oh, looks like the old one is still there, all that's in there is: |
| 22:52 | " ============================================================================ | |
| 22:52 | " Netrw Directory Listing (netrw v143) | |
| 22:52 | " /etc/apache2/sites-enabled | |
| 22:52 | " Sorted by name | |
| 22:52 | " Sort sequence: [\/]$,\<core\%(\.\d\+\)\=\>,\.h$,\.c$,\.cpp$,\~\=\*$,*,\.o$,\.obj$,\.info$,\.swp$,\.bak$,\~$ | |
| 22:52 | " Quick Help: <F1>:help -:go up dir D:delete R:rename s:sort-by x:exec | |
| 22:52 | " ============================================================================ | |
| 22:52 | ../ | |
| 22:52 | koha@ | |
| 22:52 | .swp | |
| 22:52 | rangi | eeek |
| 22:52 | use the paste :) | |
| 22:52 | ok, this may or may not work | |
| 22:52 | ASUSunDevil | do I change the @koha to @spllib? |
| 22:52 | rangi | koha-remove spllib |
| 22:52 | ASUSunDevil | ok |
| 22:53 | rangi | you dont, that will never work |
| 22:53 | hopefully it removes it, and then you can do a koha-create again | |
| 22:53 | ASUSunDevil | ok, did it, I got: |
| 22:53 | kohaspllib:~$ sudo koha-remove spllib |
|
| 22:53 | Removing Koha instance spllib | |
| 22:53 | ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_spllib'@'%' | |
| 22:53 | kohaspllib:~$ |
|
| 22:54 | rangi | try the create again now |
| 22:54 | ASUSunDevil | ok, did it and got the "User spllib-koha already exists" |
| 22:55 | rangi | dang, that typo got us in a bit of a mess |
| 22:55 | try this | |
| 22:55 | sudo userdel spllib-koha | |
| 22:55 | ASUSunDevil | ok, done |
| 22:55 | rangi | mysqladmin -uroot -p drop spllib |
| 22:56 | and try the koha-create again | |
| 22:56 | ASUSunDevil | ok, done |
| 22:58 | should I try the koha-create command again? | |
| 22:58 | rangi | yes |
| 22:59 | ASUSunDevil | I have a question fist, the /etc/koha/passwd file, are those directives for a new account, or the info in place for a new account that will be created? |
| 23:00 | rangi | the latter, afaik, ive never used it, and we may not need it, it might have been a red herring, since the missing " was the actual problem |
| 23:01 | ASUSunDevil | ok, I'm gonna try it with that info, the normal user I setup "koha" is the account I am using and the user that should be setup on he database... |
| 23:02 | rangi | give it a go, see what happens |
| 23:03 | ASUSunDevil | ok, I got he following: |
| 23:03 | kohaspllib:~$ sudo koha-create --create-db spllib |
|
| 23:03 | Koha instance is empty, no staff user created. | |
| 23:03 | Enabling site spllib. | |
| 23:03 | To activate the new configuration, you need to run: | |
| 23:03 | service apache2 reload | |
| 23:03 | * Restarting web server apache2 | |
| 23:03 | wahanui | i already had it that way, ASUSunDevil. |
| 23:03 | ASUSunDevil | ... waiting ...done. |
| 23:03 | Starting Zebra server for spllib | |
| 23:03 | kohaspllib:~$ |
|
| 23:03 | does that look like a success? | |
| 23:04 | rangi | sure does |
| 23:04 | check /etc/apache2/sites-enabled now | |
| 23:04 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, I restarted apache, but still cannot access the site.... |
| 23:05 | rangi | you have your dns set up eh |
| 23:05 | so that spllib.la.asu.edu resolves to that box eh? | |
| 23:05 | ASUSunDevil | yeah, he host name is just spllib, everything is responding normally. I just want the host to be the url people visit for the public site. then for the admin, the hostname on 8080 |
| 23:06 | yep | |
| 23:06 | I can ping it from other systems just fine | |
| 23:06 | rangi | check your /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 23:07 | do you have a Listen 8080 | |
| 23:07 | line in there | |
| 23:07 | (after the Listen 80) | |
| 23:07 | you need to tell apache to listen on port 8080 if you want it to :) | |
| 23:08 | ASUSunDevil | yeah, I listen on 80 and 8080 (in that order) also, the first two lines are NameVitualHost for those two ports as well. |
| 23:08 | rangi | on the server what does |
| 23:08 | host spllib.la.asu.edu | |
| 23:08 | resolve to | |
| 23:09 | http://spllib.la.asu.edu/ | |
| 23:09 | cos i get your koha page | |
| 23:09 | ASUSunDevil | resloves to the ip address, 129.219.55.242 |
| 23:10 | rangi | and it looks like 8080 is being blocked at a firewall or something |
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| 23:10 | ASUSunDevil | oh, wait, ok, it must have had the old page cached...I get it now too, but with a "software error" |
| 23:10 | rangi | yep |
| 23:10 | try this | |
| 23:10 | a2dissite koha | |
| 23:11 | (get rid of that old koha one in there its answering when the splib one should be) | |
| 23:11 | ASUSunDevil | ok, did tha then rean service apache2 reload |
| 23:11 | rangi | cool now its |
| 23:11 | koha'@'localhost' | |
| 23:11 | thats right | |
| 23:11 | so yeah we just have to figure out why cant hit 8080 | |
| 23:12 | but i think its between your server and the world | |
| 23:12 | can you try this on the server | |
| 23:12 | telnet 129.219.55.242 8080 | |
| 23:12 | (you might have to apt-get install telnet) | |
| 23:12 | ASUSunDevil | I just opened up the port on the firewall, so now I can hit the site, but there's an error there too |
| 23:13 | rangi | right ok, so lets do a koha-remove splib |
| 23:13 | i think we have an error in our mysql permissions | |
| 23:14 | probably crept in when we still had the typo | |
| 23:14 | so lets get back to a clean slate if we can | |
| 23:14 | then do the create again | |
| 23:14 | and we should be all good | |
| 23:14 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, yeah, when I did that command I got: |
| 23:14 | Removing Koha instance spllib | |
| 23:14 | ERROR 1396 (HY000) at line 1: Operation DROP USER failed for 'koha_spllib'@'%' | |
| 23:15 | rangi | did it clean out the rest ? |
| 23:15 | no db? | |
| 23:15 | no site in sites-enabled? | |
| 23:16 | ASUSunDevil | the koha_biblio db and spllib db are still in mysql |
| 23:16 | should I try removing those? | |
| 23:16 | rangi | yeah and do the userdel like before too |
| 23:17 | then mysql -uroot -p mysql | |
| 23:17 | select * from users; | |
| 23:18 | wanna find out what users are hanging around in mysql | |
| 23:20 | ASUSunDevil | lets see...the root user is there, debian-sys-maint, koha-koha, and koha |
| 23:20 | cait left #koha | |
| 23:20 | rangi | oh cool so the koha user is there |
| 23:21 | lets try drop user 'koha-koha'@'%'; | |
| 23:21 | ASUSunDevil | well, the main system account I created was koha too, I wanted it all to use that user....if possible. |
| 23:21 | rangi | yep but lets clean it out first |
| 23:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_3.8.x build #26: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.8.x/26/ |
| 23:21 | kyle: Bug 7112 - Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import | |
| 23:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Stable , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import |
| 23:21 | rangi | and drop user 'koha'@'%'; |
| 23:22 | so just root and debian-sys-maint left | |
| 23:22 | ? | |
| 23:22 | so pristine | |
| 23:22 | and then quit out of mysql | |
| 23:22 | ASUSunDevil | ok, all are gone except for root, debain-sys-maint and koha now |
| 23:22 | should I remove the koha user too? | |
| 23:22 | rangi | please get rid of koha too |
| 23:22 | yes please | |
| 23:22 | ASUSunDevil | ok |
| 23:23 | ok, all gone | |
| 23:23 | rangi | cool, lets try our koha-create again |
| 23:24 | ASUSunDevil | hmm, trying to do a userdel on spllib-koha and it tells me that user is currently logged in....is that somehow linked to the koha user account I am using? |
| 23:25 | jcamins | Yep. |
| 23:25 | Log out as the koha user, and log back in as your regular user. | |
| 23:26 | ASUSunDevil | ok, well, when I try the create again, sudo koha-create --create-db spllib, I get: spllib-koha already exists. The koha user is my regualr account, it was the account I created when i installed the system. It's the only account on the system. |
| 23:26 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 23:27 | rangi | can you do this |
| 23:27 | ASUSunDevil | so I need to do something different. Oh, and thank you all so much for the help! |
| 23:27 | rangi | /etc/init.d/koha-common stop |
| 23:27 | /etc/init.d/apache2 stop | |
| 23:27 | then try your userdel again | |
| 23:28 | its probably running zebra and/or apache as that user | |
| 23:29 | ASUSunDevil | ah ha, that worked, ok, that user is not removed. |
| 23:29 | do I start those services up again? | |
| 23:29 | rangi | not or now ? |
| 23:29 | ASUSunDevil | sorry, now removed |
| 23:30 | rangi | nope, you'll want to do koha-create again first |
| 23:30 | that will start them automagically for you | |
| 23:30 | * jcamins | pretends that it's Friday in the States, too. |
| 23:30 | rangi | and hopefully we will now be trying to connect to the db with the right user and password :) |
| 23:32 | ASUSunDevil | ok, did the koha-create, got: mkdir: cannot create directory 'var/log/koha/spllib: file exists' do I need to remove that directory and start over again? |
| 23:33 | rangi | hmm, try the koha-remove .. its a darn mess when it half runs (both it and koha-remove) |
| 23:34 | jcamins | Here's a suggestion: download the new koha-remove that won't quit in the middle, and use that. |
| 23:35 | * rangi | has to do some work work now, but i think we are really close and i think you probably had it going before just firewall was blocking 8080 |
| 23:37 | jcamins | I do that. |
| 23:37 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ha-remove;hb=HEAD | |
| 23:50 | eythian | jcamins: you'll be happy to know I found a bug with the easyanalytics stuff while demoing it today :) |
| 23:50 | (If you "analyse item", then change the framework, the 773 info disappears.) | |
| 23:51 | rangi | and yet the client still gave you chocolates! |
| 23:51 | eythian | indeed :) |
| 23:51 | jcamins | eythian: excellent! |
| 23:51 | eythian: oh, yeah, there's a bug for that. | |
| 23:51 | Somewhere. | |
| 23:51 | eythian | jcamins: ah right |
| 23:51 | jcamins | Can't find it right now. |
| 23:53 | eythian | jcamins: let me know if you find it. |
| 23:54 | rangi | @quote get 205 |
| 23:54 | huginn` | rangi: Quote #205: "Theres a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:54 PM, May 24, 2012) |
| 23:55 | rangi | hmm i should fix the punctuation |
| 23:55 | @quote get 205 | |
| 23:55 | huginn` | rangi: Error: There is no Quote with id #205 in my database for #koha. |
| 23:55 | rangi | @quote get 206 |
| 23:55 | huginn` | rangi: Quote #206: "There's a bug for that" (added by chrisc at 11:55 PM, May 24, 2012) |
| 23:56 | rangi | @quote random |
| 23:56 | huginn` | rangi: Quote #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.... eventually, ye shall stop asking." (added by gmcharlt at 08:31 PM, July 09, 2009) |
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| 23:58 | ASUSunDevil | jcamins/rangi: Ok I cleaned everything out, log dir, sql entries, users, etc.. I did a koha-create and all looked good, no errors, went to the site and get some errors again, looking similar to the errors I got not too long ago: http://spllib.la.asu.edu/ |
| 23:59 | sql permissions?? | |
| 23:59 | eythian | the packages don't ever try to access a database called "koha" |
| 23:59 | oh, maybe if you specified a custom db... |
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