IRC log for #koha, 2012-05-07

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01:36 mtj jcamins:  abouty ?
01:38 jcamins mtj: I am indeed.
01:39 What can I do for you?
01:39 mtj heya lil' buddy :)
01:40 chris mentioned you were poking at some graphing stuff , for Koha
01:40 i missed the convo in the #irc logs...
01:40 jcamins mtj: oh, yeah.
01:40 I thought I showed it to you.
01:41 I started with timelines.
01:41 mtj aah, yep - timelimes me seen
01:41 jcamins Graphs of collection analytics are still to do. :)
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02:41 mtj has anyone else experienced that tinymce for 'en' is busted, in the 3.6.4 deb packages
02:42 jcamins_away mtj: there was a bug about that.
02:43 mtj ... i just updated the bug, with a 'me-too!'
02:44 @bug 7589
02:44 huginn mtj: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7589 normal, P5 - low, ---, robin, NEW , Package sites unable to display the wysiwig News Editor
02:46 mtj french template dir look ok - but the english dir has the symlink bug
02:46 jcamins_away WWW::Mechanize + HTTP::Recorder = very, very, very cool.
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06:05 francharb salut
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06:15 Oak Ahoy me hearties
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06:28 reiveune hello
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06:30 Amit_Gupta heya bag
06:32 alex_a bonjour
06:32 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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06:57 julian_m hello
07:00 magnuse kia ora #koha!
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07:03 cait hi #koha
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07:04 gaetan_B hello :)
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07:20 samuel hello everybody :-)
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07:31 magnuse bonjour!
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08:45 Suzzane Hi Chris_n
08:57 Amit_Gupta heya gaetan
08:57 heya cait
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09:20 Suzzane i need to ask
09:20 is it possible to index newspapers in koha?
09:25 magnuse Suzzane: as long as you can describe it in a marc record (and a subscription) that should be doable
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09:39 Suzzane thanks Magnuse
09:39 so i can catalogue like a book
09:49 magnuse pretty much, yes
09:49 it all depends on what you want to achieve, i guess
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10:45 Amit_Gupta heya magnuse
11:07 magnuse hiya Amit_Gupta
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12:16 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:21 Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.8.0, 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 Now Available | Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org/ | General IRC meeting, 13 June 2012 at 18:00 UTC+0
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12:47 oleonard Hi libsysguy
12:47 libsysguy hey oleonard
12:47 wahanui i think oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
12:48 libsysguy i didn't walk into a meeting this time did I?
12:48 oleonard No, but this is quiet rest time. Everyone is lying down on their cots.
12:49 libsysguy heh I wish i was still resting
12:49 * libsysguy has been up working out this morning :p
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13:50 * chris_n requests permission to get off of his cot now
13:51 oleonard You were a super-duper rester chris_n
13:51 * cait waves :)
13:51 jwagner Do we get milk and cookies now?
13:51 chris_n lol
13:52 cait: on vacation?
13:52 cait kind of :)
13:52 how did you know?
13:53 chris_n you mentioned it last week :-)
13:53 cait ah ok :)
13:53 oleonard And you're cait early
13:54 * chris_n breaks out the goat's milk
13:54 chris_n who's got the cookies?
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13:54 cait oleonard: yeah, easy guess :)
13:54 my train leaves in around an hour
13:54 going back to Konstanz today
13:56 chris_n hi hdl1
13:59 hdl1 hi chris_n
14:00 * chris_n thought for sure that jcamins_away would bring the cookies
14:09 jcamins chris_n: I have goat cheese and red wine chocolate cookies.
14:11 chris_n well, goat's milk will fit right in then
14:11 jcamins They're delicious.
14:12 chris_n: I did something rather cool this morning... I automated the webinstaller bit of the installation as part of a unit test.
14:13 chris_n nice!
14:15 jcamins :D
14:15 Can you have more than one -e on a sed command?
14:15 * jcamins tries.
14:21 jcamins Yes, but prove doesn't allow you to specify command-line arguments.
14:28 Oh, you separate the arguments with ::
14:31 gmcharlt good morning
14:34 jcamins Good morning.
14:38 For anyone who doesn't know about HTTP::Recorder and Test::WWW::Mechanize, you should know those two are *awesome*.
14:38 Also, you should know there's a bug in the version of HTTP::Recorder that is provided by the package and it doesn't work. A quick Google will tell you how to fix it.
14:45 chris_n heya gmcharlt
14:45 wahanui it has been said that gmcharlt is an expert in all things library technology.
14:45 gmcharlt hi chris_n
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14:50 jcamins gmcharlt: I see your opinion on methods of installing sysprefs in updatedatabase.pl.
14:50 chris_n: yours, too.
14:51 I think we should use C4::Context->set_preference('Syspref', 'Value') instead of using $dbh->do('INSERT...');
14:51 Does anyone have any counterarguments?
14:51 chris_n jcamins: does that method allow for creating a non-existing pref?
14:52 jcamins chris_n: yep.
14:52 chris_n set_preferences implies the pref exists
14:52 jcamins chris_n: if the pref exists, it modifies it, if it doesn't exist, it creates it.
14:52 chris_n ie. you can't set something that does not exist... so maybe the method name should be changed
14:52 hmm
14:52 * chris_n would prefer a clearer method name
14:53 chris_n but I agree with your general thought
14:53 jcamins I think my inclination would probably be to wrap it in an AddSyspref function that is local to updatedatabase.pl.
14:53 chris_n 'do' is brute force
14:53 hdl1 i personly think we should have a Koha::Config::Preference module.
14:53 chris_n and as Garfield says... Brute force is often followed by brute stupidity
14:54 hdl1: that would be nice as well
14:54 jcamins hdl1: agreed, but no one has written one yet, and the do() method makes upgrades scarier.
14:54 At least AddSyspref would be less scary for the user, since there wouldn't be any angry red error message.
14:54 gmcharlt jcamins: to play devils advocate, any scarier than the rest of the upgrade SQL that's also done using direct SQL?
14:54 chris_n do() w/o undo() is scary
14:55 hdl1 well it is not because noone has done somthing at the moment that it is not possible to do it :D
14:55 chris_n ^^
14:55 jcamins gmcharlt: yes, I've rarely had an ALTER TABLE fail when there wasn't a good reason for it.
14:55 Adding sysprefs?
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14:55 jcamins They fail for no good reason All The Time.
14:55 Oak Ahoy me hearties
14:56 jcamins There are a lot of duplicate INSERTs for sysprefs due to numbering errors, etc.
14:56 And backports, that sort of thing.
14:56 chris_n checking for the existence of foo before trying to add/modify it would be a simple and logical practice as well
14:57 jcamins chris_n: yes, that would be perfectly acceptable as well. However, I feel that this would be more successful if we replace one line with one line.
14:57 chris_n jcamins: I'm in agreement with anything that makes better sense than the status-quo :-)
14:58 gmcharlt then it sounds more like we need (a better named) conditionally_add_syspref_during_upgrade() method
14:58 chris_n if we're not moving backwards, we're making progress
14:58 oleonard Least ambitious motivational saying ever!
14:58 chris_n lol
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14:59 * chris_n hands kyleh the glue
15:00 jcamins gmcharlt: exactly.
15:00 And if we had that, my release test script could even fail any time there's any sort of error from updatedatabase.
15:00 * jcamins is in a TEST ALL THE THINGS mood.
15:00 chris_n jcamins: probably having a local method to handle all SQL in updatedatabase would allow for much better error trapping
15:01 an reduce the potential for mistakes in multiple do()'s
15:01 * chris_n will now go back to work on owen's quote wish-list :-)
15:01 jcamins chris_n: that'd be even better, but I try to only propose things that I'm capable of following up (at some point) with code.
15:02 pastebot "gmcharlt" at 50.79.238.214 pasted "conditional syspref muning specs?" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/381
15:02 * oleonard hastily adds "flying unicorn which cries diamonds" to chris_n's list
15:02 jcamins gmcharlt: exactlyw hat I'm envisioning.
15:02 Only with spaces in the correct places, unlike that sentence.
15:03 chris_n gmcharlt: looks good from here
15:03 gmcharlt jcamins: I don't know, an envisioning hat actually sounds kind of nifty
15:03 jcamins Hehe.
15:04 chris_n as does a flying unicorn, et al
15:06 jcamins I should try a UNIMARC installation, too.
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15:17 jcamins oleonard: you might find this useful: http://www.perl.com/pub/2004/06/04/recorder.html
15:18 oleonard Thanks jcamins that does look interesting
15:18 jcamins I used it to automate the web installer. It's very cool.
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15:29 pastebot "jcamins" at 66.108.135.39 pasted "TEST ALL THE THINGS!" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/382
15:29 jcamins gmcharlt: how do I push 3.6-testing to the Koha repository?
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15:32 gmcharlt jcamins: what do you mean by "3.6-testing", exactly?  a branch that represents a fast forward to 3.6.x that you're comfortable with, or something that's more provisional?
15:32 jcamins gmcharlt: it's the separate 3.6-testing branch that I proposed in my... uhhh... proposal.
15:33 gmcharlt jcamins: would you mind terrible if it were called 3.6.x/testing ?
15:34 *terribly
15:34 pastebot "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "i need some report help please - jcamins cait any other report experts around?? :)" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/383
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15:35 jcamins It has all the commits that are candidates for 3.6.x.
15:35 Commits in it may not ultimately be cherry-picked to 3.6.x, if they are found to be unstable.
15:35 I think in my proposal I may have called it 3.6-unstable, but chris_n persuaded me that having a branch called stable-unstable was confusing.
15:35 Not at all.
15:35 In fact, that's a great name.
15:35 How do you put slashes in branch names?
15:35 Or are they just treated like regular characters?
15:36 gmcharlt they're just regular characters, at least as far as pushing/pulling is concerned
15:36 jcamins Hm. I get an error that 3.6.x already exists, can't create 3.6.x/testing
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15:37 gmcharlt jcamins: one second, please
15:37 jcamins: ok, you should now be able to push to 3.6.x/testing
15:37 jcamins gmcharlt: I'm trying to rename it on my local system with no luck.
15:38 gmcharlt more broadly, to any branch named 3.6.x/* to allow 3.6.x-specific topic and QA branches
15:38 you don't need to rename it
15:38 git push your-koha-rmaint-remote localbranchname:3.6.x/testing
15:38 jcamins Ahhh.
15:38 Thanks.
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15:41 hdl1 gmcharlt: iirc,
15:41 you cannot create a branch mybranch
15:41 and then another one mybranch/test
15:41 and then another one mybranch/dev
15:41 in fact, mybranch is a file.
15:42 gmcharlt hdl1: sure you can
15:42 hdl1 gmcharlt: not from what I experienced.
15:42 it seems it was just like using a file as a directory
15:43 mybranch/test
15:43 gmcharlt ah, I see what you mean
15:43 hdl1 is creating a directory mybranch
15:43 and in it creates the test HEAD file
15:43 if you have a branch named mybranch
15:44 mybranch is a file containing the HEAD tag.
15:45 gmcharlt jcamins: ok, you'll have to do 3.6.x-maint/* instead
15:45 jcamins Okay, I can do that. :)
15:45 hdl1 see you.
15:46 gmcharlt hdl1+
15:46 hdl1++
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15:49 jcamins http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6.x-maint/testing
15:49 Worked prefectly.
15:49 gmcharlt++
15:49 hdl++
15:50 gmcharlt jcamins++
15:51 jcamins: but a question - do you have any plans on how to induce folks to test 3.6.x-maint/testing?
15:51 or just rely on testing in master to propagate down?
15:51 jcamins More the latter.
15:51 gaetan_B anyone has an idea as to why after rebuild_zebra.pl -r -a -b -v i still have old results in authorities search ?
15:52 gmcharlt gaetan_B: by any chance, did you delete all of the authorities?
15:52 gaetan_B gmcharlt: yes, i wanted to start with a clean database
15:53 gmcharlt thought so; there's an issue in rebuild_zebra.pl where it won't reindex if no records were exported
15:53 so if you can add an authority, then do rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r, that will work around the problem
15:54 gaetan_B hmm, ok i thought i had created one through the cataloging interface thanks to "biblioaddsrecord" but i guess it didn't work out !
15:54 gmcharlt++
15:54 jcamins I expect there will be a relatively small number of things that don't go in from 3.6.x-rmaint/testing. The idea behind it was more that with a one month embargo on patches going into 3.6, people should be able to see what's being considered.
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15:57 * cait waves
15:59 * jcamins waves back.
15:59 cait :)
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16:05 chris_n oleonard: bug 7977 awaits your further critique ;-)
16:05 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7977 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , Add a "Quote-of-the-day" feature to the OPAC homepage
16:06 chris_n cait: I think I have all of the JS strings in translatable form now
16:07 cait cool :)
16:08 if you want to test and I am not around: run
16:08 perl translate update <languageofyourchoice>
16:08 and check if the string ended up in the po file
16:11 chris_n cait: hmm... where is "translate" located?
16:11 * chris_n is really showing his ignorance
16:11 cait in misc/translate :)
16:12 and in my experience you want to run it there
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16:14 chris_n what's the language code for german?
16:15 found it...
16:16 cait: ouch... lots of warnings
16:16 nengard i need some report help please - jcamins cait any other report experts around?? :) at http://paste.koha-community.org/383
16:17 jcamins chris_n: I think there are always lots of warnings. It's really annoying.
16:17 cait it will update the current po files using your changed templates
16:17 and everything that shows up in the updated po files is translatable
16:17 de-DE
16:17 sorry, on a train
16:17 oh yes
16:17 sorry, that's my fault :(
16:17 the po files on master are broken
16:17 I missed the deadline ... fixed files on pootle now
16:17 jcamins: with correct files there is a silent mode
16:17 so it should work better :(
16:17 chris_n well, I see my strings in there
16:17 cait chris_n: perhaps try nb-NO
16:17 I think magnuse did a better job
16:18 jcamins cait: I need to find out how to get updated PO files.
16:18 chris_n "Are you sure you want to cancel this order?" == "Sind Sie sicher, dass Sie diese Bestellung stornieren möchten?"
16:18 opps
16:18 "Are you sure you want to cancel this quote?" == "Sind Sie sicher, dass Sie diese Bestellung stornieren möchten?"
16:18 * chris_n thinks that is wrong
16:19 chris_n but it looks like its picking up on the new strings, so I guess that's good
16:19 cait is gthere a fuzzy?
16:19 marker in that? :)
16:19 chris_n no :-(
16:19 oh
16:19 yes
16:19 sorry
16:19 told you I don't know much
16:19 :)
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16:25 magnuse hey, we are down to 117 bugs that need signoff! oh no there are 117 bugs that need signoff! ;-)
16:26 chris_n lunch sounds like a good idea
16:26 hi magnuse
16:26 magnuse hiya chris_n
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16:31 oleonard When is the next GBSD?
16:33 bag go buy some deli (meat)?
16:33 gaetan_B bye !
16:33 cait1 oleonard: I think we have no date set currently
16:33 oleonard Too bad. I love squashing bugs for 24 hours straight.
16:34 cait1 magnus_afk?
16:34 :)
16:34 that's why you get to wear the superlibrarian cape
16:35 we should set a new date
16:35 gbsd doesn't attract much attention... pehraps we need to figure out some attractions? :)
16:37 jcamins cait1: someone will sponsor a shipment of jcamins' fudge to the person who does the most sign-offs?
16:37 cait1 hehe
16:37 I think that's a great idea actually :)
16:40 oleonard If someone tells me what a desirable and unique product of Southeast Ohio is I could offer it.
16:41 cait1 hm
16:41 that's easy
16:41 oleonard
16:41 wahanui oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
16:41 cait1 shipping you might get a bit expensive tho
16:41 jcamins lol
16:41 cait1 but the hugs alone would be worth it :)
16:43 chris_n cait1: it seems that my strings made it in ok and are marked fuzzy
16:43 nengard still looking for some report help - this one has been on my plate for over a month now ? anyone have any ideas at all???  http://paste.koha-community.org/383
16:43 cait1 chris_n: sounds good :)
16:43 * chris_n keeps wanting to type 'fizzy'
16:44 cait1 nengard: sorry on a train and missing some tools in my updated ubuntu...
16:44 chris_n: there are words like that - I almost never manage to type Bibliothek right the first time and Kirche (church) almost always ends up as kirsche (cherry)
16:44 chris_n "You can debug in a train; you can debug on a plane"
16:45 sam-i-am you can debug in a house; you can debug with a mouse
16:46 chris_n cait1: lol
16:46 its amazing what a letter can do
16:47 cait1 :)
16:48 jcamins nengard: paying clients have to take priority, and debugging reports is time-consuming. :/
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16:57 oleonard Why would the "new order" from not let my update the quantity? The input is readonly.
16:57 jcamins oleonard: you have to click on the up/down buttons to change the quantity?
16:57 I think there was a bug reported to that effect.
16:58 oleonard up down buttons?
16:58 jcamins oleonard: maybe not.
16:58 cait1 oleonard: what is your AcqCreateItem setting?
16:58 oleonard create an item when placing an order
16:59 cait1 ok
16:59 so you have to click add
16:59 and it will increase the number
16:59 when you create items on order, it's supposed to be read only and you work with the item forms
16:59 oleonard Oh, new stuff. Very confusing.
16:59 cait1 the quantity field will reflect that
16:59 not really new
17:00 only the way the form displays is new
17:00 hm and I think that you start with 0 instead of one
17:00 that was discussed but we were not sure how to make it better
17:00 does it work for you now?
17:01 oleonard Yes, but I never would have guessed I needed to click "add"
17:04 cait1 t
17:05 internet not really stable from here
17:06 oleonard: the problem is adding the first item
17:07 the alternative would be opening the form with the first item already added
17:07 hm didn't we look at it together in marseille?
17:09 then you would have an update link and an item with all fields empty
17:09 not sure what works better :(
17:13 jcamins Is paul_p still on vacation?
17:14 Right now he's probably eating dinner, but I didn't see him this morning, either.
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17:39 JoeLib001 Hello, I can't seem to find the records in my koha database.
17:39 I did a new install on a server and pointed it at my mysql server with my koha database.
17:41 I installed the debian package and figured out I need to run the command "koha-rebuild-zebra -f koha" after a long while of trying to figure out why I couldn't get the zebra rebuild script to work.
17:41 I ran the "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f koha" command and I still get nothing.
17:41 jcamins JoeLib001: and you created records?
17:42 JoeLib001 There are a bunch of records on it. The MySQL database is a copy of our current version. That way I don't break the current version. :-)
17:43 jcamins Ah. It's probably a permissions issue, since you tried to use rebuild_zebra.pl directly at first.
17:44 JoeLib001 I also ran "chown -R /etc/koha/sites/koha koha-koha"
17:44 jcamins koha:koha?
17:44 Oh, no, koha-koha.
17:44 Got it.
17:45 JoeLib001 This actually: "sudo chown -R koha-koha /etc/koha/sites/koha"
17:45 jcamins However, the permissions issue will be in /var/lib/koha/koha
17:45 JoeLib001 Ahh...
17:46 It shows this: drwxr-xr-x 6 koha-koha koha-koha 4096 May  3 15:04 authorities
17:47 jcamins What about biblios?
17:47 JoeLib001 Same
17:47 These are the permissions for the koha directory in /var/lib/ "drwxr-xr-x 3 root    root    4096 May  3 15:04 koha"
17:47 jcamins Okay, that sounds right. Is Zebra running?
17:48 JoeLib001 How do I check?
17:48 :-)
17:48 jcamins ps ax | grep zeb
17:48 JoeLib001 26655 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep zeb
17:48 jcamins Okay, Zebra isn't running. :)
17:49 JoeLib001 How do I start Zebra?
17:49 jcamins sudo koha-start-zebra koha
17:51 JoeLib001 Ok, I ran the "sudo koha-rebuild-zebra -f koha" command again after I started zebra and I still can't find anything.
17:51 jcamins That's odd.
17:51 ps ax | grep zeb
17:51 (run it again)
17:52 You should have three lines or so.
17:54 JoeLib001 26670 ?        S      0:00 zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml is one of the lines
17:54 jcamins Okay, that's good.
17:54 JoeLib001 26669 ?        S      0:00 daemon --name=koha-koha-zebra --errlog=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-error.log --stdout=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra.log --output=/var/log/koha/koha/zebra-output.log --verbose=1 --respawn --delay=30 --user=koha-koha.koha-koha -- zebrasrv -v none,fatal,warn -f /etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml
17:54 jcamins Okay, so you now have Zebra running.
17:54 JoeLib001 That's the other.
17:55 jcamins And you tried running koha-rebuild-zebra -f again with no result.
17:55 Right now you're doing a search of some sort?
17:55 JoeLib001 Yeah.
17:56 jcamins Are you able to access records if you enter the URL in directly?
17:56 JoeLib001 How do I enter the url directly?
17:56 jcamins Something like: 192.168.56.57:8080/cgi-bin/koha/c​atalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=1
17:56 (replace the 192.168.56.57:8080 with the URL for the staff client)
17:56 JoeLib001 Yes.
17:56 It shows one of the records.
17:56 jcamins Okay, that's good.
17:57 I mean, other than the fact that the searches don't appear to be working.
17:57 JoeLib001 So, it's all working except for the indexing for some reason.
18:00 jcamins Right.
18:00 Try this: sudo koha-disable koha && sudo koha-enable koha
18:02 JoeLib001 Still nothing.
18:02 wahanui i guess nothing is coming up in the "search catalog".  strange.  i'm still poking around
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18:02 JoeLib001 Should I run the reindex command again?
18:02 jcamins Worth a try.
18:03 * cait waves from another train
18:03 JoeLib001 Would it give me an error message somewhere, if I have the wrong user/pass for zebra?
18:04 jcamins With the packages that shouldn't be possible.
18:05 JoeLib001 Should I have created a zebra.passwd file?
18:05 Or edited it...
18:05 jcamins No.
18:06 The packages take care of all of that.
18:06 Copy the output of `ls -Rl /var/lib/koha/koha` to paste.koha-community.org.
18:09 cait jcamins++ :)
18:11 pastebot "JoeLib001" at 38.123.100.85 pasted "Results of "ls -Rl /var/lib/koha/koha"" (84 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/384
18:12 JoeLib001 Ah, yeah there. I had to figure out how to get a log, because it had too much stuff to scroll back for. :-)
18:14 Now, I won't have that problem. Set the scrollback to 5000. :-)
18:14 jcamins You're in the central time zone?
18:14 JoeLib001 Yeah, I'm in Texas.
18:15 jcamins Okay, just checking that it really was ~1315 right now.
18:15 JoeLib001 Ah, yeah.
18:15 That is correct.
18:16 jcamins So, it looks like the indexes are correct.
18:16 Try running `sudo koha-upgrade-schema`
18:17 JoeLib001 Then reindex?
18:17 jcamins No, just try a search again.
18:17 JoeLib001 Nothing.
18:17 wahanui i heard nothing was coming up in the "search catalog".  strange.  i'm still poking around
18:17 jcamins wahanui: forget nothing
18:17 wahanui jcamins: I forgot nothing
18:18 oleonard Oh too bad jcamins, try again
18:18 jcamins oleonard: hehe.
18:19 JoeLib001: I'm running out of ideas.
18:19 What version did you have on your other server?
18:19 JoeLib001 3.6
18:19 jcamins And you're trying to install 3.6.4 with packages?
18:19 JoeLib001 Where should the zebra login information be?
18:20 jcamins It's in /etc/koha/sites/koha/etc/zebra.passwd, I think.
18:20 JoeLib001 Would it give me an error, if that was incorrect?
18:21 jcamins I'm not sure.
18:21 I've never heard of it being incorrect.
18:22 Oh, here's your problem.
18:23 Run `sudo chown root:koha-koha /etc/koha/sites/koha/*`
18:25 JoeLib001 Same result.
18:25 jcamins I'm running out of ideas. :(
18:25 And there's nothing useful in the logs?
18:25 JoeLib001 Where are the logs?
18:25 wahanui the logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
18:26 * oleonard shushes wahanui
18:26 jcamins /var/log/koha/koha
18:27 There are a bunch. Start with the zebra logs (zebra-output.log and zebra-error.log), and if they don't have anything, move on to intranet-error.log or opac-error.log, according to which interface you're using.
18:28 JoeLib001 [Fri May 04 10:17:29 2012] [error] [client xx.xxx.xxx.xx] [Fri May  4 10:17:29 2012] opac-main.pl: OPAC: Database update needed, redirecting to maintenance. Database is 3.0405000 and Koha is 3.0700049 at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Auth.pm line 593.
18:28 That's in the OPAC error log
18:29 Ahhh...hmmm, that's from Friday when I was messing with it.
18:30 jcamins That's from a while ago, though.
18:30 `sudo koha-upgrade-schema koha` should have resolved that issue if it still shows up.
18:30 JoeLib001 [Mon May 07 11:27:51 2012] [error] [client xx.xxx.xxx.xx] [Mon May  7 11:27:51 2012] about.pl: readline() on closed filehandle $file at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/about.pl line 127., referer: http://koha.xxxx.xxx:8080/
18:31 That's in the itnranet error log
18:31 *intranet
18:32 * wizzyrea waves
18:32 jcamins Yeah, that's pretty old too.
18:32 JoeLib001 So, nothing useful then. :-)
18:32 jcamins Nope.
18:32 I'm out of ideas.
18:32 wizzyrea! Hi!
18:32 I made amazing edamame hummus yesterday. :)
18:33 JoeLib001 Thanks for the help. :-) At least I know everything else is working.
18:33 jcamins You're welcome. I guess you could always try restarting, just in case I didn't give you the correct commands for getting everything started up.
18:35 nengard hi all, i need a refresher - i think while i was out training a few weeks ago i found a bug in 3.8 where when i tried to view a patron record i get an error - i remember us saying it was related to attributes, but not the bug number - or if i reported it at all
18:35 anyone remember this
18:36 i think it was oleonard and wizzyrea in on the discussion ? why can i remember that but not the darn bug?? :)
18:36 jcamins nengard: check the logs? I don't remember the conversation at all.
18:38 JoeLib001 What if the username and password specified in the "/etc/koha/sites/koha/koha-conf.xml" <serverinfo id="biblioserver"> ..... Doesn't match what's in the zebra.passwd file?
18:38 nengard not finding it
18:38 not there and not on bugzilla
18:38 but it might be what i'm searching on
18:38 jcamins JoeLib001: that'd be a problem. How can that happen?
18:38 JoeLib001 User Error. :-)
18:39 jcamins JoeLib001: fair enough.
18:39 wizzyrea nengard this sounds vaguely familiar
18:39 nengard well that makes me feel a bit better :)
18:39 jcamins Yeah, if they don't match, you'll want to change them to match, and reindex.
18:39 wizzyrea what was the error?
18:39 JoeLib001 Ok, I will do that.
18:39 nengard Template process failed: undef error - : filter not found at /home/nengard/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 127.
18:40 i did search for that error in bugzilla and no luck
18:40 same in irc logs
18:40 i still can't view this patron though
18:40 http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7946
18:40 huginn 04Bug 7946: major, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, can't open a patron record
18:40 nengard FOUND IT :)
18:41 and there is a patch :) which i can test with this problem patron
18:43 wizzyrea oh and that needs to be signed off again
18:46 JoeLib001 That fixed it. :-)
18:46 jcamins: Thanks again. :-)
18:46 jcamins JoeLib001: you're welcome. If I'd ever heard of such a problem, I would've told you to check that.
18:47 nengard wizzyrea if you can sign off on my sign off that would be great
18:47 it's a big issue
18:47 JoeLib001 jcamins: The username and password in the koha-conf.xml file for the zebra biblios / authority had a default username kohauser and some random password. I changed them to what was correct for my installation.
18:48 jcamins: Thanks a lot. :-)
18:48 Have a good day! :-) *waves*
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18:50 wizzyrea sure, I think I even have a branch for that ^.^
18:50 jcamins JoeLib001: this must be something that only happens when you migrate from a non-package install.
18:50 You're welcome. Good luck! :)
18:50 JoeLib001 Yeah, could be. :-)
18:50 Where are the logs?
18:50 wahanui the logs are at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/
18:50 JoeLib001 Yay!
18:50 :-)
18:51 That command comes in handy.
18:51 Thanks again. :-) *waves*
18:55 * chris_n adds QOTD tests to the db_dependent suite
18:55 chris_n and generally cleans up the Koha.t test
18:56 jcamins Can you do a for loop in bash with strings instead of numbers?
18:56 Yes you can.
18:57 * chris_n thinks you can do most anything you like in bash
18:59 jcamins Okay, now how can I do a have a variable in bash with a name determined by another variable?
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19:05 francharb re
19:05 cait hi francharb :)
19:05 jcamins I figured it out.
19:05 cait yay
19:05 francharb hi cait
19:05 cait what? :)
19:05 jcamins How to dynamically generate a variable name.
19:06 cait oh
19:12 chris_n is it really (stupidly) true that there is no way to re-order attachments in bugzilla short of obsoleting them all and re-attaching in proper order?
19:13 cait no known way... at leat?
19:13 jcamins chris_n: as far as I know.
19:14 oleonard https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s[…]bug.cgi?id=229224
19:14 huginn 04Bug 229224: was not found.
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19:16 chris_n sounds like they just need to make it happen
19:16 francharb hey cait , i'm listening to Einstürzende Neubauten right now... ;)
19:16 * chris_n wonders what year koha will celebrate its 229224th bug?
19:16 cait :)
19:17 guess we will reach 10000 this year perhaps?
19:18 francharb chris_n, hopefully, at this point, koha will be perfect and won"t need any bugfix...
19:18 ;)
19:18 chris_n lol
19:18 cait and I hope we will have closed all old bugs up to 5000 by then :)
19:23 oleonard With Bug 7398 applied, I see this in the OPAC: Total holds: 3 (priority 1)
19:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7398 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Show number of holds on a biblio in the OPAC details
19:23 oleonard What does the "Priority 1" mean?
19:23 cait your hold is first in the row I think
19:23 jcamins oleonard: that patient is bleeding?
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19:24 oleonard Oh, cait is right. If I'm not logged in it doesn't show.
19:24 That seems obscure.
19:25 jcamins Filemaker Pro apparently can't be run at the same time as Photoshop.
19:25 francharb hey cait, do you use the firefox koha offline circulation plugin?
19:25 cait that's obscure too
19:25 francharb: not yet - I tried to get it working on 3.6.3 and failed
19:25 I want to retest on master sometime
19:25 francharb cait, I did this week end because and translated it
19:25 oleonard francharb: The last time I tried it (a week or so ago) it wasn't working for me
19:25 francharb oleonard, really?
19:26 oleonard Yes, I was getting "authentication failure" errors
19:26 francharb let me check something!
19:26 cait I didn't get any errors
19:26 but it just wouldn't upload anything
19:27 francharb cait, oleonard, this week end, I tested it on a 3.8 installation
19:27 I just checked the version
19:27 and the plugin I translated worked fine
19:28 oleonard Plugin version 0.2.2?
19:28 francharb cait, I just wanted you to know that the plugin wasn"t made to be tanslatable but you can do it, if you goes through the xul and js files...
19:28 oleonard, yep
19:29 oleonard, how did you set up the plugin?
19:29 oleonard Hmm.. Never mind. It's working now :P
19:29 francharb :)
19:29 hehe
19:30 cait francharb: I think with documentation people will be ok iwth english for now (or I hope :) )
19:30 but thx!
19:31 francharb cait, that's true!
19:31 wizzyrea report library?
19:31 wahanui report library is, like, at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library
19:31 oleonard francharb: At least the KOCT didn't give me an error. But I don't see my transactions in Koha
19:31 francharb But if you want to, I could show you what I did! Perhaps, at the kohacon! ;)
19:32 oleonard, in /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/list.pl ?
19:32 oleonard Right
19:32 francharb hum
19:33 you have the koha admin interface URL in the server section?
19:33 + the banchcode you are log in
19:33 + your login/password set up?
19:33 oleonard Yes
19:34 francharb oleonard, did you run "commit to koha" or "apply directily"?
19:34 oleonard "commit to koha" (and I wonder what the difference is)
19:35 francharb "commit to koha" is to be used when you have more than one computer using koct
19:35 then
19:35 you commit everything on the server
19:35 every transactions are sorted
19:35 and then you can apply them all
19:35 in the database
19:36 if you run "apply directly"
19:36 it will process everything logged in the plugin
19:36 directily in the database
19:37 so, if you work with more than 1 computer, you want every transaction to be sorted before being recorded in the database, so you should use "commit to koha" then process everything from koha
19:38 if you only have one computer, you can apply directly
19:38 oleonard Okay, I'm really stumbling around today
19:38 It was a branch mismatch
19:38 francharb ok
19:38 :)
19:38 cait :)
19:39 francharb oleonard, tell me if you need more explanation! ;)
19:42 wizzyrea what we need is something for the manual ;)
19:42 or online help for KOCT
19:42 francharb wizzyrea, I add this on my TODO list! ;)
19:49 nengard did I hear "manual"??
19:49 what do we need?
19:49 francharb nengard, did you add something on the koct plugin in the manual?
19:49 nengard no, never got the thing to work
19:49 :(
19:49 cait hm might be good for a video tutorial too
19:50 nengard not if i can't get it to work first :)
19:50 * oleonard confirms that it does now nengard
19:50 nengard okay i'll try again
19:50 cait francharb is an expert :)
19:50 oleonard At least for me. All my problems were my own
19:50 francharb nengard, I will do something for you!
19:50 nengard cool
19:53 francharb nengard, I will try to do it for the end of the week! I've got a pretty long train ride on friday. I will take this time to do the english koct documentation! ;)
19:55 nengard :)
19:55 cait francharb++ :)
19:55 francharb :)
19:59 wizzyrea francharb++
19:59 we might be finally able to use the KOCT with docs :)
19:59 oleonard I'm off. See you #koha.
20:00 cait bye oleonard :)
20:00 francharb see ya oleonard
20:02 wizzyrea jcamins++ for stating the obvious
20:04 chris_n 15251 quotes load into the editor in less than ~5sec
20:05 * chris_n heads home
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20:43 rangi chris_n++
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20:58 mbalmer eivening!
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21:34 jenkins_koha Starting build #721 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
21:34 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7903 follow-up, wrong capital cases <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0670ba0e412cfb9a7> / Add ordernumber column in orders history table <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]febaaf6572894ddbe> / Bug 7949 - a different favicon for the staff client <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ommitdiff;h=09cdc
21:34 francharb good night all
21:34 see ya
21:52 * chris_n fires up the grill
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22:23 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #721: SUCCESS in 49 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/721/
22:23 * oleonard: Bug 8002 [SIGNED-OFF][REVISED] Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation
22:23 * paul.poulain: Bug 8002 follow-up to use 3.09 and MODIFY instead of 3.08 and CHANGE
22:23 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3969: Budget search in acquisition doesn't work (string changes)
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8002 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation
22:23 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8027: fix param order for z3950 INSERT
22:23 * adrien.saurat: Bug 8025: corrects the return of a zero value for authorised values
22:23 * robin: Bug 8020 [3.8.x/MASTER] - update changelogs to get to 3.8
22:23 * robin: Bug 8020 - [3.8.x] Update changelog for 3.8.0-1
22:23 * robin: Bug 8020 [3.8.x/MASTER] - update git build script to 3.9
22:23 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3413: Checkboxes for new subfields not saving correctly
22:23 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Budget Search Doesn't Work
22:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8027 major, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Wrong order for parameters in Z39.50 SQL INSERT
22:23 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: Follow up removing MySQLisms from ru-RU and uk-UA sample files
22:23 * colin.campbell: Bug 7987 [SIGNED-OFF] Fix typo in circulation template
22:23 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7929 - Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8025 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Patron attribute not selected if value is zero
22:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8020 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Master , Prepare debian packages for 3.8 release
22:23 jenkins_koha * srdjan: bug 6372: moved background-job.inc to background-job-progressbar.js
22:23 * magnus: Bug 8008 - Fix typo in man page for koha-create
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round
22:23 jenkins_koha * wizzyrea: Bug 7953 - add opacuserjs to the sco template
22:23 * stephane.delaune: bug 7990 - styl= in aqplan.tt
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one
22:23 jenkins_koha * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7949 - a different favicon for the staff client
22:23 * koha: Add ordernumber column in orders history table
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7987 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , Typo causing invalid markup in circulation.tt
22:23 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7903 follow-up, wrong capital cases
22:23 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page
22:23 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6372 minor, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Batch progress bar does not check for 0 size jobs; should be in separate js too
22:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Fix typo in man page for koha-create
22:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7953 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Master , opacuserjs to the sco template
22:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Master , bad html attribute into aqplan.tt : styl= insted of style=
22:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7949 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , a different favicon for the staff client
22:24 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7903 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , add an ordernumber column in orders history table
22:25 rangi http://theopensourceschool.blo[…]free-society.html
22:26 All tests successful.
22:26 Files=90, Tests=4529, 49 wallclock secs ( 1.48 usr  0.18 sys + 22.44 cusr  6.39 csys = 30.49 CPU)
22:26 Result: PASS
22:27 * rangi tests 3.8.x a bit more
22:27 * jcamins tests 3.6-testing a bit more.
22:28 cait rangi++ jcamins++
22:30 jcamins rangi: I pushed 3.6-testing to 3.6.x-maint/testing
22:31 Tomorrow I'll send a message to the list warning people that we're going to start a string freeze very, very soon.
22:33 Oh, drat, I really do have to run the entire make process for each marcflavour.
22:33 I should've known that I had already thought of this, and discovered it wouldn't work.
22:34 MARC21 tarball installation works fine.
22:37 chris_n rangi++
22:37 jcamins++
22:37 * chris_n grills burgers, fries fries, and writes help files for QOTD editor at the same time :-)
22:42 pastebot "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "Results of the latest test" (40 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/385
22:42 rangi oh yeah i should do that too, ill do that after your email
22:44 i wonder if slef or mle_ are around?
22:45 jcamins rangi: if you'd like to send yours today, go ahead.
22:45 I won't send mine for another 15 hours or so.
22:45 rangi might do that later then
22:45 for now, i was just wondering what the license of the kohacon12 logo is
22:46 cait rangi: it might be on the wiki
22:47 rangi yup, cant see it
22:47 cait http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Con12_logo_design
22:47 right, only the font is mentioned
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23:04 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: FIXED)
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23:27 rangi hi NZ_Hannah
23:30 NZ_Hannah HI - I'm just lurking :-) Curious about this whole IRC thing ...
23:30 rangi ahh :)
23:31 NZ_Hannah I was expecting a flurry of Koha chat ... alas ...
23:32 rangi most people are asleep this time of the day, its only us in the southern hemisphere that are awake
23:39 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #5: SUCCESS in 35 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_3.8.x/5/
23:39 * oleonard: Bug 8002 [SIGNED-OFF][REVISED] Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation
23:39 * Chris Cormack: Database version bump
23:39 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3969: Budget search in acquisition doesn't work (string changes)
23:39 * adrien.saurat: Bug 8027: fix param order for z3950 INSERT
23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8002 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Can't add patron attribute type in newer installation
23:39 jenkins_koha * adrien.saurat: Bug 8025: corrects the return of a zero value for authorised values
23:39 * robin: Bug 8020 [3.8.x/MASTER] - update changelogs to get to 3.8
23:39 * robin: Bug 8020 - [3.8.x] Update changelog for 3.8.0-1
23:39 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 3413: Checkboxes for new subfields not saving correctly
23:39 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one
23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3969 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED , Budget Search Doesn't Work
23:39 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8027 major, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Wrong order for parameters in Z39.50 SQL INSERT
23:39 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 2399: Follow up removing MySQLisms from ru-RU and uk-UA sample files
23:39 * colin.campbell: Bug 7987 [SIGNED-OFF] Fix typo in circulation template
23:39 * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7929 - Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page
23:39 * srdjan: bug 6372: moved background-job.inc to background-job-progressbar.js
23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8025 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Stable , Patron attribute not selected if value is zero
23:39 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8020 normal, P4, ---, robin, Pushed to Stable , Prepare debian packages for 3.8 release
23:39 jenkins_koha * magnus: Bug 8008 - Fix typo in man page for koha-create
23:39 * wizzyrea: Bug 7953 - add opacuserjs to the sco template
23:39 * stephane.delaune: bug 7990 - styl= in aqplan.tt
23:39 * koha: Bug 7903: Add ordernumber column in orders history table
23:39 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3413 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , repeatable tickbox not sticking 1st time round
23:39 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one
23:40 jenkins_koha * paul.poulain: Bug 7903 follow-up, wrong capital cases
23:40 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7987 minor, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Stable , Typo causing invalid markup in circulation.tt
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7929 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Stable , Duplicate id "availability" on XSLT result page
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6372 minor, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Stable , Batch progress bar does not check for 0 size jobs; should be in separate js too
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8008 trivial, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Stable , Fix typo in man page for koha-create
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7953 trivial, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Pushed to Stable , opacuserjs to the sco template
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7990 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, henridamien, Pushed to Stable , bad html attribute into aqplan.tt : styl= insted of style=
23:40 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7903 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Stable , add an ordernumber column in orders history table
23:48 cait left #koha
23:55 mtj eythian:  are you about for a quick pbuilder Q?
23:55 i'm attempting to build some Koha packages based on your wiki notes
23:55 pastebot "mtj" at 203.97.99.222 pasted "pbuilder" (13 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/386
23:56 mtj and get that error ^  any idea?

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