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| 00:53 | jan2018500 | Good morning |
| 00:56 | Judit | morning |
| 00:58 | jan2018500 | I have problem with my KOHA...every time i try to save my catalog.. I always > committed like this error....Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170 |
| 00:58 | hello judit:) | |
| 00:59 | can u help me people about my KOHA problem | |
| 01:02 | Judit | is this something like this: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8003 |
| 01:02 | huginn | 04Bug 8003: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2045 |
| 01:21 | jan2018500 | would u pls help me how can i solved this software error |
| 01:21 | Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170 | |
| 01:29 | huginn hi:) | |
| 01:29 | huginn | jan2018500: downloading the Perl source |
| 01:50 | jan2018500 | I have problem with my KOHA...every time i try to save my catalog.. I always > committed like this error....Software error: > > Tag "" is not a valid tag. at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2170 |
| 02:02 | eythian | liw: is there a single page version of gtdfh around? |
| 02:07 | liw: nm, found the epub version | |
| 02:09 | chilts | gtdfh? what's the fh? (I know the gtd) |
| 02:10 | ah, for hackers :) | |
| 02:10 | found the page - http://gtdfh.branchable.com/ | |
| 02:15 | * ibeardslee | has been starting to apply bits |
| 02:19 | * eythian | has added it to his epub collection to be read when I get the chance. |
| 02:28 | * ibeardslee | wuves his nook color |
| 02:36 | * eythian | has a real android tablet for reading on. Or an ebook reader. |
| 02:36 | eythian | and a third that is both... |
| 02:37 | Judit | and do you have time to read?:) |
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| 03:12 | chris_n | @later tell jcamins added more work on QOTD editor |
| 03:12 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:12 | chris_n | tnx huginn |
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| 04:56 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:08 | fredericd | morning |
| 05:31 | cait | hi fredericd :) |
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| 06:20 | alex_a1 | bonjour |
| 06:22 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:27 | cait | hi alex_a1 and magnuse :) |
| 06:27 | magnuse | g`morgen cait |
| 06:29 | cait | hi magnuse |
| 06:29 | seeing your mail to the list - what#s the problem? | |
| 06:29 | I think perhaps you could download them and run perl translate update | |
| 06:29 | magnuse | well, the nb-NO files are not updated with the last comits to the help pages i think? |
| 06:30 | cait | and reupload them |
| 06:30 | that's what I did | |
| 06:30 | for the german files | |
| 06:30 | magnuse | ah, of course |
| 06:30 | cait | I think you should have permissions to do so |
| 06:30 | magnuse | wow, why did i not think of that? |
| 06:30 | yeah, i can upload and overwrite | |
| 06:30 | cait | you can download a zip file first - as backup |
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| 06:31 | marcelr | hi koha |
| 06:31 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 06:31 | magnuse: I have the same problem right now I think | |
| 06:31 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:31 | cait | I want to create files for vietnamese |
| 06:31 | not sure where to start them from | |
| 06:32 | perhaps master too? | |
| 06:32 | they will get updated to 3.8.1 then soon - but will be less double work | |
| 06:32 | hm. | |
| 06:32 | yeah I think I will do that | |
| 06:33 | fredericd | cait: Yes, you can do that for one language! |
| 06:33 | Base your work on 3.8.x branch, not master | |
| 06:33 | cait | fredericd: trying to update pootle to have vietnamese |
| 06:33 | fredericd: oh right - I will do that! | |
| 06:33 | another question - do you know the right language code for vietnamese? | |
| 06:34 | I think in pootle it's vi - I see we have some older files for vi-VN in koha | |
| 06:34 | fredericd | Otherwise, for other languages, help file strings inclusion will be done for ALL languages at next string freeze |
| 06:35 | But first class Koha citizens, like magnuse, can do it by themself, and know how to do it... | |
| 06:36 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:36 | cait | fredericd: how to find the right language code for koha? |
| 06:36 | still looking for vietnamese but not sure if vi-VN is right | |
| 06:36 | magnuse | yeah, just need a little reminder every now and then ;-) |
| 06:37 | fredericd | vi-VN already exists in misc/translator/po: so just use it |
| 06:38 | for a new language, you have to choose a code, and find a equivalence in Pootle languages table | |
| 06:38 | cait | ok |
| 06:38 | fredericd | language codes beeing different in Koha and Pootle |
| 06:38 | cait | thx! |
| 06:38 | yeah, I saw that | |
| 06:38 | so was not sure how to proceed | |
| 06:38 | fredericd | I have such a equivalence in a script which is required to update all language in batch |
| 06:39 | here: http://git.tamil.fr/?p=tkoha;a[…]5df783c7b;hb=HEAD | |
| 06:39 | cait | ah ok |
| 06:40 | fredericd | So if you add a new language, don't foreget to send me a note with the new equivalence |
| 06:40 | cait | so we have to addd vietnamese there |
| 06:40 | ok :) | |
| 06:40 | now I wanted to upload the first file - is there a way to avoid adding all translations as suggestoins? | |
| 06:40 | forget it... was not logged in | |
| 06:40 | fredericd | yes: vi-VN = vi |
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| 06:41 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:41 | wahanui | hola, reiveune |
| 06:42 | cait | interesting |
| 06:42 | fredericd: it happened again | |
| 06:42 | the pref file for vietnamese has russian ... | |
| 06:43 | fredericd | haye |
| 06:43 | cait | http://translate.koha-communit[…]mes=endwhitespace |
| 06:43 | fredericd | I can see it |
| 06:43 | how was the file you uploaded? | |
| 06:44 | cait | checking |
| 06:44 | fredericd | It contains already Russian in Git repo |
| 06:44 | so Pootle is not the culprit | |
| 06:45 | cait | I confirm |
| 06:45 | the 2 strings are already there in my file | |
| 06:45 | I will delete the string from pootle | |
| 06:46 | fredericd: do you want a reminder mail to change the file with the language mapping? :) | |
| 06:47 | fredericd | I've done it, thanks |
| 06:48 | cait | ok :) |
| 06:48 | work time - bbl | |
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| 06:59 | julian_m | hi! |
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| 07:10 | gaetan_B | hello :) |
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| 07:27 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:53 | paul_p | hello world. |
| 07:54 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 07:54 | paul_p | today, i'm at a barcamp in Paris about "business model of free software companies" |
| 07:55 | (http://wiki.april.org/w/April_[…]mp_du_3_mai_2012) | |
| 07:56 | marcelr | that seems to be french ;) |
| 07:58 | magnuse | paul_p: giving a talk or listening to others? |
| 07:58 | * kf | waves |
| 08:14 | * mtj | moos to the herd |
| 08:14 | * magnuse | moos back |
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| 08:35 | paul_p | magnuse = in a barcamp, everybody is speaking ;-) |
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| 08:43 | magnuse | paul_p: of course. cool! |
| 08:44 | Amit_Gupta | bug 7970 |
| 08:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7970 major, P1 - high, ---, amit.gupta, Needs Signoff , Allow OPAC holds per library policy without default rule |
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| 09:15 | * kf | waves again |
| 09:21 | * magnuse | waves |
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| 09:25 | Guest398 | we are testing koha 3.8 and realised that while using acquisitions even though acq framework is created and creating item selected while receiving the book it does not allow to add any items |
| 09:26 | below item heading it does not show any thing and if creating item while sending PO it does not allow to add quantity of books | |
| 09:26 | kf | check your system preferences |
| 09:26 | AcqCreateItem | |
| 09:26 | it controls when items can be added in the acq process | |
| 09:27 | and you also might want to check if your acq framework is set up with correct 952 field | |
| 09:29 | Guest398 | i did that |
| 09:29 | and in system preferences i have selected add item while receiving the order | |
| 09:29 | but new 3.8 does not give option to add item while receiving the order | |
| 09:29 | i have created acq framework | |
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| 10:35 | vfernandes | hi :) |
| 10:36 | yesterday i was here to ask how to have two kohas with zebra running on the same machine... i've successfully managed to do that :) | |
| 10:38 | now I have one question related to zebra searches... my marcxml on the database (table biblioitems) has the field 099 filled, but searching by date-entered-on-file (creation date) doesn't work | |
| 10:42 | can i see the zebra indexes for one record? | |
| 10:48 | hdl | for one record ? no, you can only see how it indexes with zebraidx -s |
| 10:48 | what you need to do is to have a iso2709 file | |
| 10:49 | zebraidx -s -c path/to/zebra-biblios.cfg -d biblios -g iso2709 update mymarcfile | |
| 10:50 | vfernandes | hdl the problem is that i don't know if zebra is correctly indexing 099$c because all the searches i do does not return any result |
| 10:51 | hdl | you may have to search on a different @attr 2=XXX or @attr 4=XXX attribute |
| 10:51 | in fact a different structure modifier | |
| 10:53 | pastebot | "hdl" at 88.190.23.136 pasted "ccl attributes for structure" (21 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/376 |
| 10:53 | vfernandes | date-entered-on-file 1=date-entered-on-file -> what it means? on file ccl.properties |
| 10:53 | hdl | it searches on the date-entered-on-file index |
| 10:53 | Needs to be defined in your record.abs | |
| 10:54 | by default, it searches on w | |
| 10:54 | vfernandes | melm 099$c date-entered-on-file:s,date-entered-on-file:n,date-entered-on-file:y |
| 10:54 | hdl | if in your record.abs you only use date-entered-on-file:d or date-entered-on-file:y |
| 10:55 | try this : | |
| 10:55 | date-entered-on-file,st-year=yoursearch | |
| 10:55 | in your big box | |
| 10:55 | (not in advanced search) | |
| 10:55 | It should work. | |
| 10:55 | If you want, | |
| 10:56 | add | |
| 10:56 | date-entered-on-file 1=date-entered-on-file s=ydn | |
| 10:56 | vfernandes | no results :/ search = “kw,wrdl: date-entered-on-file,st-year=2012" |
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| 10:57 | vfernandes | http://constancia.koha.keep.pt[…]ear%3D2012&limit= |
| 11:00 | any suggestion hdl? | |
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| 11:15 | magnuse | wunder boo |
| 11:15 | @wunder boo | |
| 11:15 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (12:50 PM CEST on May 03, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:16 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:16 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 18.0°C (1:00 PM CEST on May 03, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 39%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:20 | * magnuse | is not enviuos at all |
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| 11:21 | kf | yeah, too warm :) |
| 11:21 | magnuse | hm... |
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| 11:44 | jcamins_away | @marc 340 n |
| 11:44 | huginn | jcamins_away: unknown field/subfield combination (340/n) |
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| 11:50 | kf | hi jcamins_away :) |
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| 12:04 | marcelr | jcamins_away: thx for your response |
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| 12:05 | samuel | hello eveybody :-) |
| 12:05 | marcelr | jcamins_away: in favor of janusz patch: if you exclude $e, it will not be touched |
| 12:05 | * chris_n | puts on a fresh pot of coffee/tea/<your-favorite-hot-beverage> |
| 12:06 | jcamins | marcelr: but my understanding from looking at the patch was that in a vanilla Koha install, it will wipe out all your relator terms without warning. |
| 12:06 | marcelr | yeah; i think it may be dangerous |
| 12:06 | so i did not sign off | |
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| 12:20 | kf | clrh++ :) |
| 12:20 | clrh | kf :) |
| 12:21 | what enjoy you? the update of solr install ? or progress in dev rebases ? | |
| 12:23 | kf | clrh: all of it :) |
| 12:23 | and making it transparent like that | |
| 12:24 | clrh | cool |
| 12:24 | thanks kf | |
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| 12:24 | magnuse | yeah clrh++ |
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| 12:27 | schuster | Hello all! |
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| 12:28 | kf | biblibre++ too :) |
| 12:28 | wb paul_p | |
| 12:29 | schuster | I'm having problems with a fresh install of 3.06.04.000 - on a debian machine - I can send email from the command line, but not from within Koha. I get "Problem sending the cart..." when I try in Koha. |
| 12:30 | magnuse | schuster: did you install the packages? and if so, fif you enable email? |
| 12:30 | s/fif/did/ | |
| 12:35 | schuster | exim4 is installed |
| 12:35 | yes on the packages | |
| 12:39 | * chris_n | misses oleonard |
| 12:40 | jcamins | chris_n: where is oleonard? |
| 12:40 | wahanui | it has been said that oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 12:40 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 12:41 | chris_n | that's what I was wondering |
| 12:41 | * chris_n | is trying to find out how to call a js function via a yui toolbar button |
| 12:41 | chris_n | but I think that might not be possible without some "creativity" |
| 12:46 | magnuse | schuster: did you do "koha-email-enable <instancename>"? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]koha-email-enable |
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| 12:59 | schuster | magnuse - I've never seen that page before... how do I determine my <instancename> as everything I try it doesn't recognize... |
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| 13:44 | kf | clrh: still around? |
| 13:44 | clrh | yep |
| 13:44 | kf | oh |
| 13:44 | now I found my problem :) | |
| 13:44 | I tried searching ':' and : and got error messages | |
| 13:44 | clrh | ok |
| 13:44 | :) | |
| 13:45 | kf | now I see it's *:* |
| 13:45 | clrh | yep it is a solr/lucene standard |
| 13:45 | like indexname:whatisearch | |
| 13:45 | kf | :) |
| 13:45 | ok | |
| 13:45 | the error mesage for ':' was interesting tho | |
| 13:45 | something about email | |
| 13:45 | clrh | but we did a lot of specific workaround to answer to librarian needs so there can be some... exceptionnal behaviours |
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| 13:46 | clrh | kf: yep he says he can parse the query (we didn't translate the error in normal human thing) |
| 13:46 | kf | :) |
| 13:47 | oh, I think I found a little bug in configuration: | |
| 13:47 | http://catalogue.solr-demo.bib[…]pl?biblionumber=6 | |
| 13:47 | when I cklick on the published by: link I get an error | |
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| 13:48 | kf | clrh: I like that you can undo facets :) |
| 13:48 | clrh | :) |
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| 14:03 | kyleh | hey all, does @later work on this channel? |
| 14:04 | kf | yes |
| 14:04 | @later tell kyleh something ... | |
| 14:04 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:04 | kyleh | kf: thanks |
| 14:05 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 14:05 | kf | good morning gmcharlt |
| 14:05 | kyleh | @later tell sekjal can you weigh in on bug 6075 - reserves table needs a primary key. MJ has an alterative way of doing this. |
| 14:05 | huginn | kyleh: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:07 | gmcharlt | kyleh: is that the right bug number? |
| 14:07 | ah, bug 7065 | |
| 14:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key |
| 14:08 | vfernandes | anyone have SMS working on Koha? |
| 14:10 | kyleh | yes, any input on that bug would be appriciated. MJ has an alternative approach that looks much simpler ( or at least far more terse ). |
| 14:10 | kf | hmm think we mostly have numbers currently |
| 14:10 | biblionumber itemnumber, | |
| 14:10 | borrowernumber | |
| 14:11 | kyleh | If just find table_id more readable than tablenumber. I suppose it's entirely subjective thought. |
| 14:12 | gmcharlt | kyleh: I'm working on a variant of slef's approach that has a nice benefit of assigning lower IDs to old reserves |
| 14:12 | kyleh | gmcharlt++ |
| 14:14 | kf | kyleh: I think if we started from scratch I would prefer id too - but so used to all the number I have a slight pref for that :) but I don't care much - as long as we finally have a pk |
| 14:16 | kyleh | some tables also use tableno, we should have a convention in the coding guidelines |
| 14:17 | * kyleh | wonders why we haven't moved to dbix::class |
| 14:17 | thinks it might be good for transitioning to the koha namespace | |
| 14:31 | gmcharlt | kyleh: take a look, I think my latest comment on the bug does what I want it to |
| 14:32 | by the way, I don't particularly care what we call the ID fields (though I favor *_id) but care more about consistency | |
| 14:36 | kyleh | gmcharlt: looks good. Do you want to create a patch, or shall I? It's just one big do statement, right? |
| 14:36 | gmcharlt | kyleh: a set of do statements, but sure, go ahead and make a patch |
| 14:37 | kyleh | gmcharlt: will do. |
| 14:43 | gmcharlt: so should each separate command be a separate do statement. Won't that cause problems if the connection dies in the middle of the process ( that is, the value of @ai is session level and will be lost ) | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | kyleh: put it all in a transaction, and nothing will happen if the connection dies. |
| 14:45 | gmcharlt | you would have to adjust it so that @ai is a Perl variable set by a normal dbh query |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Also, transactions are a good idea. |
| 14:46 | * chris_n | grumbles about YUI buttons |
| 14:46 | kyleh | jcamins: good idea. |
| 14:47 | chris_n | it seems we have multiple implementation techniques |
| 14:47 | jcamins | chris_n: I am shocked, shocked I say! |
| 14:47 | kyleh | there are so many ways to do it, and I don't care which one we use, as long as it gets done ; ) |
| 14:48 | chris_n | jcamins: I wonder the worth of learning YUI-foo at all in light of the move to jQuery |
| 14:48 | jcamins | chris_n: I wouldn't think there would be all that much value, honestly. |
| 14:49 | * kyleh | loves jquery ui |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | too |
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| 14:55 | chris_n | syntax... it will get you every time :-P |
| 14:58 | jcamins | chris_n: yeah, I hear DWIM() hasn't been implemented yet. |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins: get on that, OK? |
| 15:04 | jcamins | gmcharlt: it's on my to-do list. |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins++ |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | se search is serial? |
| 15:14 | jcamins | series. |
| 15:15 | If you mean se:whatever | |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | hehe i figured it out just after I asked |
| 15:15 | derp series | |
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| 15:34 | chris_n | if I had a smart phone, I'd just code into insanity :-P |
| 15:34 | wizzyrea | that would be un-smart |
| 15:34 | we like you sane | |
| 15:35 | no oleonard today. Bummer | |
| 15:35 | @later tell oleonard http://www.youtube.com/watch?f[…]ded&v=hfmGnLMlKvs | |
| 15:35 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. |
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| 15:37 | libsysguy | logs? |
| 15:37 | wahanui | hmmm... logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | libsysguy? |
| 15:38 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 15:38 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | i'm so predictable. |
| 15:38 | libsysguy | heh |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 15:38 | libsysguy | has anybody noticed that the wiki front page looks hacked |
| 15:38 | wizzyrea | indeed it does |
| 15:38 | kf | wiki? |
| 15:38 | wahanui | wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
| 15:39 | jcamins | I had not, but it would appear it was. |
| 15:39 | kf | oh no |
| 15:39 | jcamins | Perhaps someone with administrative privileges would like to block that user. |
| 15:39 | kf | magnuse: around? |
| 15:39 | libsysguy | and i can't get to the logs |
| 15:39 | jcamins | Well, defaced, anyway. Not really hacked. |
| 15:39 | libsysguy: rangi's home internet connection is probably down. | |
| 15:40 | * gmcharlt | looks at the wiki |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | rangiiii!!!! |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | he's sleeping ;) |
| 15:40 | at least he better be. | |
| 15:40 | libsysguy | jcamins ok not hacked, just chopped together for SEO lol |
| 15:40 | jcamins | Right. |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt: don't you have an admin account on the wiki? | |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | hm I can't see how to revert it |
| 15:41 | gmcharlt | jcamins: rather more than that, in fact, I'm doing cleanup now |
| 15:41 | * wizzyrea | lets gmcharlt handle it |
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| 15:43 | gmcharlt | changes reverted, account blocked, and a bunch of intimidating guys dispatched |
| 15:43 | libsysguy | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:45 | kf | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | gmcharlt++ (especially for having a bunch of intimidating guys to dispatch. The guy's got powers, what can i say) |
| 15:48 | chris_n | gmcharlt++ |
| 15:54 | jcamins | libsysguy: why would you want to use SSH in Chrome? |
| 15:55 | wizzyrea | sounds like a hack waiting to happen >.> |
| 15:56 | jcamins | wizzyrea: agreed. |
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| 16:02 | * jcamins | discovers that the dark spot on his desk was ink not a shadow. |
| 16:03 | jcamins | Ink that is permanent on fingers, if not on desks. |
| 16:03 | chris_n | well, it looks pretty enough, but doesn't work worth $0.02 :P |
| 16:04 | jcamins | chris_n: I don't know, if you want to spend $0.02 on dyeing your fingers black, it seems pretty successful to me. |
| 16:04 | chris_n | lol |
| 16:05 | was speaking of these buttons | |
| 16:05 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 16:05 | yui-- | |
| 16:08 | reiveune | bye |
| 16:08 | reiveune left #koha | |
| 16:09 | chris_n | why in the world does the yui junk fire the onclick events on its buttons onload? |
| 16:10 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:11 | chris_n | instant mess... and on that note... off to a recital |
| 16:12 | laurence left #koha | |
| 16:23 | libsysguy | jcamins incase you had a chromebook |
| 16:24 | jcamins | libsysguy: ohhhh. |
| 16:24 | libsysguy | sorry ran across the lake to have lunch |
| 16:24 | jcamins | Okay, that makes sense. |
| 16:24 | libsysguy: I guess it's pretty warm today? | |
| 16:25 | Or *very very* cold? | |
| 16:25 | libsysguy | @wunder 75799 |
| 16:25 | huginn | libsysguy: The current temperature in Ellis Weather Central, Tyler, Texas is 27.2°C (11:25 AM CDT on May 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.97 in 1015 hPa (Steady). |
| 16:25 | * jcamins | generally goes around the lake, but I guess when it's that hot running across it makes sense. |
| 16:26 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:26 | libsysguy | :p |
| 16:27 | jcamins http://maps.google.com/maps?q=[…]&hq=UT+Tyler&z=18 | |
| 16:28 | jcamins | The other option I was considering was that you had walked on water, which would've been pretty cool, too. :P |
| 16:28 | libsysguy | well I do have powers of biblical proportions |
| 16:29 | * jcamins | was just reading the Book of Wall. :P |
| 16:29 | libsysguy | :p |
| 16:30 | jcamins | The Book of Larry, to the chosen. ;) |
| 16:30 | libsysguy | the chosen always get the good names |
| 16:31 | I wonder what the fallen call it | |
| 16:31 | jcamins | The Book of Too Many Ways. |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | heh |
| 16:35 | jcamins | Time to head into the city. |
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| 16:44 | wizzyrea | anyone have any idea on how to get the bigger sized cover images from OpenLibrary? |
| 16:44 | kf | bye all |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | bye kf |
| 16:44 | kf | :) |
| 16:44 | kf left #koha | |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | i've looked at it but I just can't seem to grok how to get the bigger ones. |
| 17:08 | slef | wahanui: openlibrary? |
| 17:08 | wahanui | it has been said that openlibrary is cool |
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| 17:11 | slef | wizzyrea: I think we use the books API so you have to swap the -S.jpg on the end for -M.jpg or -L.jpg, or change the jscmd to one that gives you all the covers and update the code |
| 17:14 | cait | hi again all |
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| 17:33 | francharb joined #koha | |
| 17:33 | francharb | hi |
| 17:33 | cait | hi francharb :) |
| 17:33 | francharb | 0/ cait ;) |
| 17:41 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: there's a bug about that. |
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| 17:51 | druthb | o/ |
| 17:52 | * druthb | is taking a rough poll, nothing technical. |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | \o/ |
| 17:53 | * jcamins_away | raises both hands, thus confusing the resutls. |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | *results |
| 17:53 | druthb | +1 if you think cait is one of the sweetest people you know. |
| 17:53 | +1 | |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | +1 |
| 17:53 | cait? | |
| 17:53 | wahanui | That's Ms. Cait to you! or in a very good mood today :) |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | kf? |
| 17:53 | wahanui | kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert. |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | See, wahanui agrees. |
| 17:55 | druthb | :D |
| 18:05 | hdl | @later tell juan-siera : http://xc-zurek.carli.illinois.edu:8080/ncipv2/ for ncip implementation |
| 18:05 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
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| 18:29 | jcamins_away | bug 7294 |
| 18:29 | wahanui | bug 7294 is interesting |
| 18:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Needs Signoff , status "in order" |
| 18:29 | jcamins_away | bug 7249 |
| 18:29 | wahanui | bug 7249 is particularly cool. |
| 18:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7249 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , Report webservices |
| 18:30 | jcamins_away | That's the one I was wondering about. |
| 18:30 | Bug 7248 | |
| 18:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Passed QA , Caching for services |
| 18:30 | jcamins_away | paul_p: I revised bug 7248 according to your comments. |
| 18:31 | paul_p | jcamins_away yep, i've seen, I'll try to investigate. |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 18:31 | * jcamins_away | will nudge mtj and/or sekjal about QAing 7249. It's a *great* feature. |
| 18:34 | cait | it totally is :) |
| 18:35 | * jcamins_away | points anyone who doubts this to the timeline he did |
| 18:36 | cait | timeline? |
| 18:36 | what amazing timeline are we talking about? | |
| 18:38 | jcamins_away | This one: http://screencast.com/t/yHqqZXEN |
| 18:41 | That took an astonishingly small number of lines of code. | |
| 18:43 | trea: was that the unicode-compliant version of you I saw a few minutes ago? | |
| 18:43 | trea | interesting |
| 18:43 | mayhap so | |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | right, ok will look at the open library stuff again |
| 18:51 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: I think rangi or eythian had a preliminary patch. |
| 18:51 | wizzyrea | hm. |
| 18:52 | @query openlibrary | |
| 18:52 | huginn | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6035 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Mobile interface for OPAC |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6624 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow Koha to use the new read API from OpenLibrary | |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Allow Koha to use Openlibrary subject api | |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7657 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Google and OpenLibrary image conflict | |
| 18:52 | wizzyrea: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7152 enhancement, P4, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Koha should make it easy for librarians to attach covers using Open Library | |
| 18:53 | kyleh | does <<items.content>> no longer work for circ notices in 3.8? It's not working for me, it seems as though there is no way to get item level data in a circulation notice at this tiime. |
| 18:53 | druthb left #koha | |
| 18:54 | cait | kyleh: hm I don't know about 3.8 - I ran some tests last week on 3.6.3 and there it worked fine |
| 18:54 | kyleh: oh, what do yo mean by ciruclation notice? | |
| 18:55 | kyleh: checkout and checkin slips? | |
| 18:55 | it never worked there - you have to use repetition lines | |
| 18:55 | and just put the fields you want between them | |
| 18:55 | kyleh | I'm referring to the emailed digest atm |
| 18:55 | cait | ah |
| 18:55 | hmmm | |
| 18:55 | digest for DUE? | |
| 18:55 | and yes I am too | |
| 18:55 | kyleh | for CHECKOUT |
| 18:55 | cait | referring to CHECKIN and CHECKOUT |
| 18:56 | repetition lines, never used items.content (although it should) | |
| 18:56 | magnuse: around? | |
| 18:57 | I sent magnuse my table with what works in which notice... and now don't have it myself because it's on my computer at work... | |
| 18:58 | I think the sample notice should have the right syntax | |
| 18:58 | it's somne ----- at the begining and at the end | |
| 18:58 | * chris_n | wonders why "onclick: {fn: fnClickDeleteRow()}" results in onclick firing on page load while "onclick: {fn: fnClickDeleteRow}" does not... |
| 18:58 | kyleh | I cannot even find the code that generates items.content, any idea where that is? |
| 18:58 | cait | probably Letter.pm |
| 18:59 | and... if not there perhaps it's in overdues or advanced_notices directly | |
| 18:59 | kyleh | that's what I thought, I keep looking and looking, but no luck. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills ; ) |
| 19:00 | cait | not sure myself |
| 19:00 | wahanui | not sure cait is leistungsfähig |
| 19:00 | cait | lol |
| 19:00 | thx wahanui | |
| 19:00 | just what I needed to hear | |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | What does that mean? |
| 19:00 | cait | look it up :) |
| 19:00 | effectiv | |
| 19:00 | e | |
| 19:00 | jcamins_away | Ouch. |
| 19:01 | cait | efficient or highly productive |
| 19:01 | says Leo | |
| 19:02 | kyleh: perhaps use the repetition lines for now? | |
| 19:02 | kyleh: they have the advantage that you can put lots of fields into them and you can have line breaks | |
| 19:02 | kyleh: which I think is quite nice - they work actually a bit better than items.content or item | |
| 19:02 | because you can put in some formatting :) | |
| 19:03 | kyleh | cait: that is the better option. I think items.content should be done away with, but I'm trying to figure out what notices can have item level data. Unfortunately, I think my lack of sleep is catching up with me... |
| 19:03 | cait | kyleh: if we can find magnuse, he can send me my table.. |
| 19:03 | heh | |
| 19:04 | and then I can send it to you after some translation | |
| 19:04 | kyleh | cait: thanks for the help, I'll figure it out eventually. |
| 19:04 | cait | I ran all fields and all tables and all notices and wrote up what works and what not |
| 19:05 | CHECKIN and CHECKOUT have the repetition lines, DUE, PREDUE digest have items.content, ODUE has <item> and items.content | |
| 19:05 | iirc | |
| 19:06 | kyleh | it would be nice if we could standardize one format across all notices, but I don't anyone wants to put in the time for something that already works, even if it is schizophrenic. |
| 19:07 | cait | I think there is some value in having different options |
| 19:07 | but... yeah | |
| 19:08 | kyleh | if all the logic were moved into Letters.pm, we could have all options for all letters. I suppose thats the way it's been moving, albeit bit by bit. |
| 19:13 | wizzyrea | 3.8 does have new notices stuff in it |
| 19:14 | like, notices per branch | |
| 19:14 | ooh la la | |
| 19:14 | and css customizable notices | |
| 19:14 | er, slips | |
| 19:23 | chris_n | its alive! |
| 19:24 | muhahahahaha! | |
| 19:24 | cait | :) |
| 19:24 | * chris_n | finally gets the yui button widget to cooperate |
| 19:24 | jcamins_away | chris_n: got the quote editor working? |
| 19:24 | * chris_n | looks around for oleonard |
| 19:28 | chris_n | jcamins_away: checkout the latest commits in my github repo branch enhancement/bug_7977_csv |
| 19:28 | jcamins_away | chris_n: I'll try to take a look when I get home. |
| 19:29 | Have you incorporated oleonard's feedback? | |
| 19:29 | chris_n | in part |
| 19:29 | also added "click" context helps | |
| 19:29 | or started them | |
| 19:29 | and did some major refactoring on the js foo | |
| 19:33 | * chris_n | is hoping that cait will have a look at the translatabilty of the strings in the js :) |
| 19:43 | rangi | Morning |
| 19:45 | cait | morning rangi :) |
| 19:46 | jcamins_away | Morning. |
| 19:46 | wahanui | i guess morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
| 19:46 | cait | chris_n: the key is not to put them in .js files |
| 19:46 | chris_n: and concatenation is bad - try to keep strings together | |
| 19:46 | chris_n | hi rangi |
| 19:46 | cait: I have avoided concatenation except when adding numbers, so that should be ok | |
| 19:47 | cait | adding numbers? :) |
| 19:47 | chris_n | but there are strings in the js... should I create a separate inclusion for each page w/js? |
| 19:47 | to handle the strings? | |
| 19:47 | cait | not sure I understand you correctly |
| 19:47 | it's so that in general .js files don't get picked up by translations | |
| 19:48 | you have to move every string into the template | |
| 19:48 | s | |
| 19:48 | chris_n | cait: I can create an inc file which has only strings |
| 19:48 | jcamins_away | chris_n: like the BOOKBAG (or whatever) vars. |
| 19:48 | chris_n | and import those into the template |
| 19:49 | cait | chris_n: I think an inc file would work too :) |
| 19:49 | chris_n | that puts the strings in the "include" directory |
| 19:49 | cait | includes get translates |
| 19:49 | chris_n | but will require a separate include file per page |
| 19:49 | cait | and thx for thinking about translatability :)! |
| 19:49 | chris_n++ :) | |
| 19:49 | chris_n | not too much trouble, though |
| 19:49 | ok | |
| 19:49 | cait | ah, if they strings are unique |
| 19:49 | chris_n | I'll do that at the end once everything is functional |
| 19:49 | cait | perhaps better put them in the template directly |
| 19:49 | might be easier | |
| 19:49 | chris_n | but will they get picked up? |
| 19:50 | _('foo') | |
| 19:50 | is how I see somethings | |
| 19:50 | well, its no problem to do whatever works | |
| 19:51 | it might be nice to have some coding guidelines addressing this sort of thing | |
| 19:51 | if there are none already written | |
| 19:58 | cait | yes |
| 19:58 | _(":::") will get picked up | |
| 19:58 | there is some in the coding guidelines actually :) | |
| 19:58 | about javascript | |
| 20:02 | rangi | My stop bbiab |
| 20:03 | jcamins_away | Hey, does everyone know what tomorrow is? |
| 20:03 | Tomorrow is International French Toast Day! | |
| 20:03 | Except for in NZ, where today is International French Toast Day. | |
| 20:04 | cait | interesting |
| 20:04 | * chris_n | finds that interesting in light of having had French Toast for b'fast this morning |
| 20:05 | chris_n | cait: is there a wiki page perhaps? |
| 20:05 | cait | yes, the coding guidelines page :) let me find it |
| 20:05 | chris_n | coding guidelines? |
| 20:05 | wahanui | coding guidelines are http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 20:05 | chris_n | heeh |
| 20:05 | cait | hm |
| 20:05 | :) | |
| 20:06 | so | |
| 20:06 | 2.2.1 | |
| 20:06 | you don't want ifs inside of html tags | |
| 20:06 | that#s bad | |
| 20:06 | 2.2 | |
| 20:06 | javascript | |
| 20:06 | wahanui | i think javascript is required for interactions with clicks |
| 20:08 | * chris_n | will review things for compliance before its all wrapped up |
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| 21:12 | rangi | test |
| 21:13 | schuster | no thanks |
| 21:13 | Wizzyrea you hear? | |
| 21:13 | or here... | |
| 21:13 | cait | rangi: test test |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | i am hear, and I hear you |
| 21:13 | wait. that came out wrong. | |
| 21:13 | i am here, and I hear you. there, that's better. | |
| 21:13 | sup? | |
| 21:14 | rangi | http://stats.workbuffer.org/ir[…]12-05-03#i_962612 looks like its working again |
| 21:14 | schuster | When do you plan on upgrading to 3.8 or have you? |
| 21:14 | wizzyrea | ow, rangi, feedback |
| 21:14 | j/k | |
| 21:14 | ;) | |
| 21:14 | we will probably go to 3.8 in august-ish, 3.8.4 or 3.8.5 | |
| 21:14 | * wizzyrea | won't be doing 3.8.0 |
| 21:14 | cait | :) |
| 21:15 | bag | wizzyrea: should go sooner than that - the suspense of waiting - drives on crazy |
| 21:15 | schuster | Yeah me either, but we are going live 3.6 early June so will have to watch for release updates. Doing it over the summer is SOOO much easier. |
| 21:15 | bag | s/on/one |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | no sir |
| 21:15 | * wizzyrea | is patient |
| 21:16 | cait | wizzyrea: I understand you :) |
| 21:16 | schuster | Suspense for new features yes, but pain of bleeding edge can be painful |
| 21:16 | bag | no need to be - cause 3.8 kicks arse |
| 21:16 | rangi | schuster: 3.6.5 is out may 23, 3.8.1 may 22 |
| 21:16 | cait | we are very happy 3.6.3 users now |
| 21:16 | wizzyrea | bag - seriously? |
| 21:16 | have you looked at it in chrome? | |
| 21:16 | schuster | Oh great thanks rangi that might be a great opportunity. |
| 21:16 | rangi | speaking as RMaint, i wouldnt go to 3.8 until 3.8.1 at least .. maybe 3.8.2 |
| 21:16 | bag | wizzyrea: just having my fun |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | ;) |
| 21:17 | * wizzyrea | still doesn't recommend 3.8.0 |
| 21:22 | schuster | I learned a long time ago never to take the first iteration of a release unless you have a support company that will have programmers ready at 7 am to fix what ever is broken... of course that was with a proprietary company... |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | rangi have there been many patches for 3.8.1? |
| 21:23 | well koha is a lot better in that regard, but still don't take a .0 release. | |
| 21:23 | schuster | I'm not saying anything bad about open source we love this software!!! Just a fact of life with upgrades... Someone though has to take the plunge first to find the problems. |
| 21:23 | Then the rest of us owe them a drink! | |
| 21:24 | cait | I think once a .0 is out you can start serious testing |
| 21:24 | and try finding the bad bugs | |
| 21:25 | you will always miss something bevore it stops moving fast | |
| 21:25 | rangi | wizzyrea: im waiting on paul to push them |
| 21:25 | then i can cherry-pick | |
| 21:25 | so far, just the one since release | |
| 21:26 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]=refs/heads/3.8.x | |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 21:29 | schuster | Wow pretty stable... I'm interested in wizzyrea's branch notice per branch... Could solve a lot of my problems or close to them with overdues. |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | new, paul's been on vacation |
| 21:29 | rangi | s/stable/static/ |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | naw* |
| 21:29 | schuster | Thanks all for everything you do for libraries... Have a great evening! |
| 21:38 | jcamins | rangi: 3.6.5 will *hopefully* be out May 23. |
| 21:38 | rangi | :) |
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| 21:42 | jcamins | I'm thinking of writing web-based release management tools. |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | define that |
| 21:44 | jcamins | wizzyrea: rather than using a command line, I think I might use a web browser to access them. |
| 21:44 | wizzyrea | interesting |
| 21:44 | jcamins | I am faced with the problem that the tools I have don't really lend themselves to a testing branch... at all. |
| 21:46 | Because as they work right now, I have to go through the cherrypick process twice. | |
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| 21:47 | jcamins | And I need more information in order to differentiate between "definitely stable," "probably stable," "definitely not stable even though I thought it was," and "irrelevant." |
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| 21:49 | jcamins | What I really want is a tool that gives me a view of Master, and suggests "here are the things that bugzilla says are bugfixes," and I can then choose whether I agree, disagree, etc. |
| 21:50 | If I knew anything about ncurses, that'd be the most logical thing to work with, but I don't, and don't care to. | |
| 21:50 | So, time for my swiss army chainsaw, T::T. | |
| 21:52 | :) | |
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| 22:09 | jcamins | If I didn't have a cat on my lap, I'd go start baking cinnamon bread. |
| 22:10 | But I do have a cat on my lap, so I will modify chris_n's release tools to use T::T. | |
| 22:13 | @quote search typo | |
| 22:13 | huginn | jcamins: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..." |
| 22:14 | cait | jcamins: myshkin? :) |
| 22:15 | jcamins | cait: yup. |
| 22:15 | cait | :) |
| 22:38 | eythian | http://www.newyorker.com/humor[…]_20120430#slide=2 |
| 22:39 | jcamins | First successful cherry-pick! |
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| 22:47 | jcamins | Okay, I'm not cherry-picking bug 4969. |
| 22:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4969 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors |
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| 23:30 | chris_n | eythian: lol |
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| 23:45 | chris_n | does anyone else find that vim occasionally looses its way wtih syntax highlighting when scrolling down a file? |
| 23:45 | jcamins | chris_n: yup. |
| 23:49 | Is there any way to get a list of the files touched by a given commit, easily? | |
| 23:49 | Figured it out. | |
| 23:57 | * jcamins | decides the capitalization fixes are not going into 3.6.x. |
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