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| 04:54 | gmcharlt | @later tell jcamins wip/koha-equinox.git ready for you to pull from again -- I've addressed both the rel ranking and making -x work; there's also a dom-biblio-rebased branch for you to use if you want it merged against master as of today |
| 04:54 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
| 04:55 | gmcharlt | @later tell cait wip/koha-equinox.git branch dom-biblio has latest and greatest for bug 7818 |
| 04:55 | huginn` | gmcharlt: The operation succeeded. |
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| 06:04 | KK | Hello aLL |
| 06:04 | *All | |
| 06:06 | Need Help , i am installing koha on ubuntu with guide http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu got this error :Error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' | |
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| 06:32 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:32 | wahanui | niihau, alex_a |
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| 06:37 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:37 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
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| 06:51 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
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| 07:03 | Joubu | hello |
| 07:05 | Oak | hello Joubu |
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| 07:06 | julian_m | hi |
| 07:06 | wahanui | niihau, julian_m |
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| 07:08 | Oak | Bonjour paul_p, julian_m |
| 07:08 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
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| 07:32 | cait | hi #koha |
| 07:51 | magnuse | hiya #koha! |
| 07:54 | cait | i magnuse :) |
| 07:54 | isn't today a holiday for you? :) | |
| 07:56 | magnuse | yup it is |
| 07:56 | cait | :) |
| 07:56 | want to join me in some fun with bugs? | |
| 07:56 | magnuse | but i woke up before everyone else, so i thought i might as well check some email etc |
| 07:57 | ooh tempting, but i have some other stuff i need to look at too | |
| 07:57 | you have a holiday today too, right, cait? | |
| 07:58 | what sort of fun were you thinking of? | |
| 07:59 | cait | hm dom indexing maybe |
| 08:00 | or signing off last minute string changes | |
| 08:02 | magnuse | gah, time to take the dogs out - bbl, maybe... |
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| 08:19 | fredericd | cait: Could you test a new Pootle server? |
| 08:19 | cait | oh |
| 08:19 | what kind of testing? | |
| 08:20 | fredericd | just take a look at it and confirm it works as the previous server |
| 08:20 | it's based on a yesterday DB backup | |
| 08:23 | cait | ah |
| 08:23 | living in a vm now? | |
| 08:23 | fredericd | yes |
| 08:24 | rangi | well done fredericd |
| 08:25 | cait | cool :) |
| 08:26 | pm me the url and a login maybe? | |
| 08:26 | I can try to start testing in an hour or so if that's ok | |
| 08:26 | have to make some phone calls first | |
| 08:26 | fredericd | cait++ |
| 08:27 | see my pm | |
| 08:27 | cait | ok |
| 08:27 | testing login | |
| 08:28 | my login works | |
| 08:28 | so can test later :) | |
| 08:37 | slef | hi all |
| 08:37 | cait | hi slef |
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| 09:21 | cait | hi adnc |
| 09:21 | adnc | hi cait |
| 09:21 | how are you doing | |
| 09:21 | cait | :) |
| 09:21 | all ok | |
| 09:21 | and you? | |
| 09:25 | adnc | cait, I'm ok, solving some problems here. |
| 09:25 | how is koha doing | |
| 09:25 | i didn't use it for quite some time ;( | |
| 09:26 | cait | ah |
| 09:26 | koha is doing well | |
| 09:26 | 3.8 is about to be released soon | |
| 09:26 | and it will be a great release again :) | |
| 09:41 | * slef | kicks http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 |
| 09:41 | huginn` | 04Bug 6890: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Add reserves to modification logging |
| 09:53 | slef | faq? |
| 09:53 | wahanui | i heard faq was found at http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 09:54 | slef | clean install and I'm getting " * No copies are available to be placed on hold" and I don't see why not. |
| 09:54 | http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]rences-turned-on/ | |
| 09:54 | * slef | checks circ rules |
| 09:55 | cait | slef: you need to set a rule |
| 09:55 | all libraries - all - all | |
| 09:55 | with number of holds > 0 | |
| 09:55 | sorry, was on the phone with my dad | |
| 09:56 | and check oyu have a value > 0 for maxreserves in system preferences | |
| 09:57 | slef | I've got a rule |
| 09:57 | I'll check sysprefs | |
| 09:57 | rangi | also allow on shelf holds |
| 09:58 | slef | rangi++ |
| 09:58 | cait | oh good point |
| 09:58 | slef | that was it |
| 09:58 | * slef | goes to update the faq |
| 09:59 | slef | I'm sure that bit me before |
| 09:59 | rangi | i suspect that should be on by default |
| 09:59 | i suspect thats the most common use case | |
| 10:00 | cait | hm |
| 10:00 | off would be the normal setting here | |
| 10:00 | slef | really? |
| 10:00 | cait | it's highly uncommon that onshelfholds are allowed |
| 10:00 | rangi | its the opposite here |
| 10:00 | slef | even if the book is onshelf in another branch? |
| 10:00 | cait | yeah, normally only checked out materials |
| 10:01 | slef | that's what usually bites me |
| 10:01 | cait | yeah, we have no library doing that righ tnow... multi branch |
| 10:01 | I am not sure how koha works here | |
| 10:01 | what they woudl like is | |
| 10:01 | that you can only place a hold, if their own copy is checked out | |
| 10:01 | * slef | crashes his koha and returns to developing |
| 10:02 | rangi | i dont i have a single library that has that on |
| 10:02 | cait | or if there is no copy at the library |
| 10:02 | slef | there maybe should be a third setting: onlyIfNotMyBranch |
| 10:03 | cait | I would certainly like that :) |
| 10:05 | magnuse | onshelfholds = off would be the norm in norway too, i think |
| 10:06 | slef | wow - so if a book is on the shelf, you have to race to get there first? |
| 10:06 | magnuse | slef: yup |
| 10:07 | librarians can't be bothered to pick books from the shelf for you | |
| 10:07 | slef | lazy people |
| 10:07 | magnuse | i don't have hard stats on it of course, but from circumstantial evidence i think that's the rule most places |
| 10:07 | hehe | |
| 10:07 | slef | we can hold books on shelf here, but we have to pay like if it was any other reserve or transfer |
| 10:08 | rangi | seems like something that should change, thats the kinda thing you want to do if you want to keep getting funded |
| 10:08 | cait | slef: holds don't cost here |
| 10:08 | slef: public libraries sometimes, but not in academic libraries | |
| 10:08 | magnuse | slef: here neither |
| 10:09 | slef | I think both costed here but it's been a few years since I was a member of an academic library myself. |
| 10:09 | rangi | for libraries like levin, people dont want to drive into town to get the book to find out its been issued |
| 10:09 | slef | And professional libraries either everything costs or nothing costs. |
| 10:09 | rangi | for a rural library its a nessecity to have onshelf holds |
| 10:10 | otherwise the opac is kinda useless outside of the library | |
| 10:10 | you find something you want, you reserve them then you go get them | |
| 10:10 | magnuse | yup, good point |
| 10:11 | rangi | fredericd++ |
| 10:11 | what i was trying to say, but you said it better | |
| 10:11 | magnuse | when i worked in an academic library we would not accept on shelf holds through the opac, but if people called and said they would drive for an hour to pick up a book we would get it from the shelf and reserve it for them |
| 10:12 | rangi | *nod* |
| 10:12 | magnuse | so they knew it was waiting |
| 10:12 | rangi | thats the old way they used to do it too |
| 10:12 | but its less work for the libraries | |
| 10:12 | slef | tracking reservations - should I be using UpdateStats or logaction? |
| 10:13 | rangi | thats what the whole holds to pull report is for, onshelf holds, so im pretty sure american libraries do them too |
| 10:14 | cait | rangi: yes, I think they do |
| 10:14 | but other models exist :) | |
| 10:17 | slef | also, when I modify a module, should I increment $VERSION? |
| 10:17 | say now or watch me break some perfectly good features ;) | |
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| 10:18 | Oak | cait home at this time of day? good. |
| 10:18 | rangi | cait: i know, just saying that i think the default is the wrong way round |
| 10:18 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 10:18 | slef | I think I'll use logaction because here doesn't seem to be a GetStats to go with UpdateStats so I guess they're only accessed in the Tools: Reports thing. |
| 10:18 | rangi | not that we should remove it |
| 10:18 | cait | rangi: I know :) |
| 10:18 | Oak: easer holidays here | |
| 10:18 | easter | |
| 10:19 | Oak | ah |
| 10:19 | rangi | slef: you should, no one does |
| 10:19 | so it's up to you | |
| 10:22 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 10:22 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (11:50 AM CEST on April 06, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:22 | magnuse | scattered clouds? i think the proper term is "snow showers" |
| 10:23 | cait | heh |
| 10:23 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 10:23 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 8.0°C (12:00 PM CEST on April 06, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 85%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1012 hPa (Rising). |
| 10:24 | Oak | magnuse |
| 10:24 | magnuse | Oak |
| 10:24 | Oak | @wunder islamabad |
| 10:24 | huginn` | Oak: The current temperature in Islamabad, Pakistan is 29.0°C (3:00 PM PKT on April 06, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 29%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady). |
| 10:24 | cait | fredericd: is there something specific to test on the pootle server? |
| 10:25 | Oak | me go. |
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| 10:50 | slef | anyone know why issuehistory doesn't show the circulation log as well as the issues table? |
| 10:52 | ot at least link through to it | |
| 10:52 | or | |
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| 11:18 | slef | Changes submitted for bug 6890 |
| 11:19 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Needs Signoff , Add reserves to modification logging |
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| 12:12 | sturmtruppen | morning #koha |
| 12:13 | I have a question... | |
| 12:13 | is it possible that bulkmarcimport.pl has a problem? | |
| 12:15 | slef | first question |
| 12:15 | wahanui | first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 12:15 | slef | it's possible, but if it's not in bugs.koha-community.org, it's surprising |
| 12:15 | sturmtruppen | import one iso2709 datafile |
| 12:15 | slef | second question |
| 12:15 | wahanui | somebody said second question was "What is the exact error message?" |
| 12:16 | slef | oh and what commandline are you entering? |
| 12:16 | sturmtruppen | no message error, only wrong data in the db |
| 12:16 | slef | wrong how? |
| 12:16 | sturmtruppen | perl kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -m ISO2709 -file tonzig.dat |
| 12:16 | slef | wahanui: what is the third question? |
| 12:16 | wahanui | the third question is "What version of Koha are you using?" http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ion-koha-running/ |
| 12:17 | sturmtruppen | git version |
| 12:17 | slef | sturmtruppen: and does "yaz-marcdump tonzig.dat |more" work OK? |
| 12:18 | lunch here, back in 60ish | |
| 12:18 | sturmtruppen | just run "yaz-marcdump tonzig.dat |more" in the shell? |
| 12:18 | jcamins_away | sturmtruppen: what's the problem with the data in the database? |
| 12:19 | sturmtruppen | jcamins_away: in tab biblio, all the field are NULL |
| 12:19 | except for autoincrement | |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | sturmtruppen: I think the problem is probably your command line. |
| 12:21 | sturmtruppen | where? |
| 12:21 | jcamins_away | Try taking out the -m bit, and and adding the appropriate argument to specify biblios. |
| 12:22 | sturmtruppen | ? |
| 12:22 | "adding the appropriate argument to specify biblio"? | |
| 12:22 | magnus_afk | http://perldoc.koha-community.[…]lkmarcimport.html |
| 12:22 | jcamins_away | sturmtruppen: the command you used to import the data. It's wrong. It shouldn't have "-m ISO2709" and should have -b or -biblio or something like that. |
| 12:22 | magnus_afk | -b |
| 12:23 | jcamins_away | I don't remember the exact command. I don't use that script. |
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| 12:27 | sturmtruppen | magnus_afk: "0 MARC records done in 0.0035550594329834 seconds" with -b option |
| 12:28 | jcamins_away | sturmtruppen: in that case, the problem is your file. |
| 12:28 | sturmtruppen | how can it be? now i'll explain what i do |
| 12:28 | 1) z3950 search with koha interface | |
| 12:28 | 2) show MARC data | |
| 12:29 | 3) copy MARC data in a file (tonzig.dat in this particulat case) | |
| 12:29 | jcamins_away | How did you do step 3? |
| 12:29 | sturmtruppen | run perl kohaclone/misc/migration_tools/bulkmarcimport.pl -m ISO2709 -file tonzig.dat |
| 12:29 | select all - copy - paste? | |
| 12:29 | jcamins_away | Yes, you can't do that. |
| 12:30 | MARC is a binary format. | |
| 12:30 | sturmtruppen | why? |
| 12:30 | jcamins_away | It contains non-printing characters. |
| 12:30 | sturmtruppen | hohohohohoho... now i've learn another thing... |
| 12:30 | jcamins_away | You have to use export. |
| 12:30 | sturmtruppen | learned |
| 12:30 | ok, now i'll try... | |
| 12:31 | wait... | |
| 12:31 | jcamins_away | Why exactly are you doing this in the first place? |
| 12:31 | sturmtruppen | i need to import 2000 book in the library |
| 12:32 | i need to learn how | |
| 12:32 | jcamins_away | And why are you doing a Z39.50 search then exporting the record and reimporting it on the command line? |
| 12:32 | I can't think of any situation where that is a good idea. | |
| 12:32 | You should just use Z39.50. | |
| 12:33 | sturmtruppen | beacuse i have another program that obtain the data from the italian SBN and save in a file. |
| 12:33 | if i found the difference between the file, i can wrtie an algorith to convert the data and then import in koha | |
| 12:33 | complicated? | |
| 12:33 | wahanui | complicated is, like, far too mild a term to describe Search.pm |
| 12:34 | jcamins_away | I would recommend you not do that. |
| 12:34 | Export a file from Koha and open it up. | |
| 12:34 | sturmtruppen | ok. can you tell how can i import 2000 data? |
| 12:35 | jcamins_away | One at a time using Z39.50. |
| 12:35 | Or some program that supports MARC. | |
| 12:36 | sturmtruppen | can you tell me one, please? |
| 12:36 | wahanui | one is probably developeed by a worldwide community of developers, the other by liblime |
| 12:36 | jcamins_away | I can't recommend anything other than Koha, sorry. |
| 12:37 | There are very few programs that support MARC. | |
| 12:37 | There's MarcEdit. | |
| 12:37 | But I don't use it. | |
| 12:37 | The only program that people on this board will be able to help you with would be Koha. | |
| 12:38 | sturmtruppen | jcamins_away: i just remember that you said me that the marc is binary... |
| 12:38 | maybe this is the key... | |
| 12:38 | jcamins_away | MARC standards? |
| 12:38 | MARC standard? | |
| 12:38 | MARC21? | |
| 12:38 | wahanui | MARC21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 12:39 | jcamins_away | ^^ take a look at the first link there. |
| 12:40 | sturmtruppen | another problem is tha unimarc format |
| 12:40 | so, you can see i have lots of problems... | |
| 12:41 | jcamins_away | UNIMARC? |
| 12:41 | wahanui | i guess UNIMARC is http://www.ifla.org/en/publica[…]ted-documentation |
| 12:41 | jcamins_away | Okay, look there. ^^ |
| 12:41 | The basic format is the same, it's just the tags that are different. | |
| 12:41 | sturmtruppen | yes, already study that pages |
| 12:41 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 12:44 | jcamins_away | Morning. |
| 12:44 | wahanui | it has been said that morning is a state of mind. |
| 12:44 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: I'm trying to reindex my DOM installation. |
| 12:47 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: cool. any issues so far? |
| 12:48 | jcamins_away | Well, it doesn't seem to want to reindex, which is a bit of a problem. |
| 12:48 | I'm not sure if that's you or me, though. | |
| 12:48 | It exports, then cleans. | |
| 12:49 | gmcharlt | anything interesting if you use -v -v |
| 12:49 | ? | |
| 12:49 | jcamins_away | That's what I'm trying now. |
| 12:50 | * oleonard | is not sure his eyes are up to more capitalization corrections today... |
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| 12:51 | jcamins_away | I got a complaint about collection.abs on my non-DOM install, which seemed peculiar. |
| 12:52 | gmcharlt | indeed, that makes it sound like it's try to run it through the GRS-1 filter |
| 12:52 | * gmcharlt | drinks coffee |
| 12:52 | gmcharlt | doh! sec |
| 12:52 | jcamins_away | Well, that was the installation that is using GRS-1. |
| 12:52 | I just never saw that error before, that I recall. | |
| 12:53 | gmcharlt | I know what it's happening |
| 12:53 | er, why it's happening | |
| 12:53 | one moment | |
| 12:53 | cait | gmcharlt++ |
| 12:53 | jcamins++ | |
| 12:59 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: could you try this -- symlink record.abs -> collection.abs |
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| 13:00 | jcamins_away | Well, that fixes the error. |
| 13:01 | Reindexing with DOM still doesn't seem to want to do anything. | |
| 13:01 | gmcharlt | to confirm, the change to dom-config.xml setting level to 1 is in place? |
| 13:02 | jcamins_away | No. |
| 13:02 | I just noticed that. | |
| 13:03 | Bit of a false alarm there, sorry. | |
| 13:04 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: my heart will forgive you ... eventually :P |
| 13:05 | jcamins_away: also, when you have a moment (and back to the grs-1 filter), I'd be curious if making collection.abs be an empty file will be sufficient | |
| 13:06 | jcamins_away | Any idea why it started looking for collection.abs? |
| 13:07 | gmcharlt | yes - the change to fix -x wrapped the XML export in a collection element to make it proper XML |
| 13:07 | GRS-1's marcxml filter sees the root element of collection and wants to find a collection.abs | |
| 13:09 | cait | I am glad you 2 clever people are working on this |
| 13:10 | * cait | provides some cookies |
| 13:10 | oleonard | Lately I've felt quite out of my depth on the mailing list! |
| 13:10 | cait | can you explain that in simpler words please? |
| 13:11 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: ah, that makes sense. |
| 13:12 | gmcharlt: Once I've finished reindexing with collection.abs symlinked to record.abs, I'll try again with a blank collection.abs. | |
| 13:13 | cait | oleonard: not sure what out of my depth means :) but I am feeling a bit lost in this discussion about plack and search languages myself |
| 13:13 | oleonard | Oh sorry |
| 13:13 | "out of my depth" means things are too difficult for me | |
| 13:14 | cait | don't be - I guessed right then :) |
| 13:14 | oleonard | I'm assuming the phrase is related to another English one, "in over my head." It appears the English have a fear of swimming. |
| 13:14 | cait | heh |
| 13:15 | * gmcharlt | has discovered a strange and new way to break a dev installation -- if you've got any files in the tree with a : in their name, running make will fail with the error 'multiple target patterns. Stop.' |
| 13:17 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: call it "null:" and under DOS your system will stop responding. |
| 13:17 | gmcharlt | jcamins_away: so, does this dash our dreams of porting Koha to DOS? ;) |
| 13:18 | jcamins_away | gmcharlt: only if you create a file called "null:" ;) |
| 13:19 | Heh. Every 10 seconds, the length of time left on the merge goes down by 5 seconds. | |
| 13:19 | gmcharlt | lol |
| 13:24 | jcamins_away | bug 2399 |
| 13:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one |
| 13:24 | cait | oleonard: no holiday in US today? |
| 13:24 | oleonard | Not universally |
| 13:25 | jcamins_away | Yay! My DOM-indexed installation worked! |
| 13:27 | Oooh, ampersand escaping even works properly. | |
| 13:28 | cait | yay! :) |
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| 13:33 | cait | testing bug 5549 :) |
| 13:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 blocker, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 13:33 | * cait | starts bug workin |
| 13:33 | starts wrangling bugs | |
| 13:36 | slef | cait++ |
| 13:36 | oleonard: the mysql quoting problem is that koha may well already be using reserved words as column or table names. Not checked so not sure but it wouldn't surprise me. | |
| 13:37 | oleonard | Yes, I understand that. But I'm not sure mbalmer did. |
| 13:37 | cait | I think we do |
| 13:37 | I think I remember having problems with one column name once | |
| 13:38 | slef | oleonard: oh ok. I thought you described it to mbalmer as a possible future problem, whereas I think it's a today one. |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Oh, maybe I did. |
| 13:39 | * jcamins_away | sighs and taps his toes. |
| 13:39 | jcamins_away | I think DOM indexing is a lot faster than GRS-1. |
| 13:39 | Or maybe I'm just more impatient the second time 'round. | |
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| 13:42 | jcamins_away | Uh-oh. |
| 13:43 | cait | uhoh?! |
| 13:43 | jcamins_away | The GRS-1 indexes on disk are 52kb. |
| 13:43 | cait | hm |
| 13:43 | that's a bit small | |
| 13:43 | jcamins_away | And I just caused a kernel panic. |
| 13:46 | gmcharlt | I now know why -- Zebra's grs.sgml filter really ought to have been called grs.sgmlike |
| 13:47 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 13:49 | What does it do wrong? | |
| 13:49 | cait | uhoh |
| 13:49 | slef | cait: uhoh? |
| 13:49 | cait | failing tests |
| 13:50 | and it confuses me | |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | jcamins: it doesn't let you specify a wrapper element -- just lets you tack on one <record> after another |
| 13:50 | cait | # Failed test 'installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl has no XXX in it' |
| 13:50 | # at t/00-checkdatabase-version.t line 48. | |
| 13:50 | # XXX found in line 5151 | |
| 13:50 | 1..2 | |
| 13:50 | gmcharlt | I'm working on a patch to rebuild_zebra.pl |
| 13:50 | cait | oh I see |
| 13:51 | slef | cait: looks like a production-time test, should be ignored for development |
| 13:51 | jcamins | gmcharlt: so it's not going to work properly with -x without it? |
| 13:51 | cait | slef: yeah, wonder why I didn't run into this before |
| 13:51 | slef | cait: I've deleted t/00-checkdatabase-version.t in my deployment test branch |
| 13:51 | cait: you've been testing bugs that don't updatedatabase? | |
| 13:52 | cait | that would be the easiest answer - but I did |
| 13:52 | francharb | hi and bye all |
| 13:52 | see ya | |
| 13:52 | cait | probably failed them before getting to the git comit |
| 13:52 | slef | cait: not sure when t/00-checkdatabase-version appeared |
| 13:52 | cait | me neither, my git hook is new |
| 13:52 | so I will blame that | |
| 13:52 | slef | cait: any bug cait: any bug Mon Aug 8 23:45:00 2011 +0200 |
| 13:52 | Mon Aug 8 23:45:00 2011 +0200 | |
| 13:52 | cait | ? |
| 13:52 | slef | damn pastebuffer error ;) |
| 13:52 | cait | ah :) |
| 13:53 | slef | but that's when t/00-checkdatabase-version appeared |
| 13:53 | bug 6700 | |
| 13:53 | cait | hm |
| 13:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6700 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, RESOLVED FIXED, Better handling of version numbers in updatedatabase |
| 13:53 | cait | slef: for bug 5549- do you think the upatedatabase is necessary? |
| 13:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 blocker, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 13:53 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 13:53 | slef | cait: yes. Also, jcamins suggested it. |
| 13:53 | cait | slef: it will most likely only hurt developers, or should only hurt them |
| 13:54 | slef | cait: it hurt me! |
| 13:54 | jcamins | cait: and all the people who ignored my advice and installed master in production. |
| 13:54 | cait | I am a bit unhappy with it because it will cause a red complaint for everyone starting from a stable installation |
| 13:54 | so it will look like an error and people will ask about it | |
| 13:54 | slef | cait: good point. We maybe could make the updatedatabase test for the column first. |
| 13:55 | cait | is there a way we could check for existance of the column? |
| 13:55 | jcamins | Wrap it in some sort of if? |
| 13:55 | slef | oh easier idea |
| 13:55 | I could remove the line from the earlier updatedatabase paragraph too | |
| 13:55 | new patch coming in 5mins | |
| 13:55 | * cait | thinks about it |
| 13:56 | cait | jcamins? |
| 13:56 | wahanui | i heard jcamins was an outstanding cook, well-traveled and brilliant, trying to think of a solution, or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra |
| 13:56 | jcamins | Makes sense to me. |
| 13:56 | cait | slef: can you do a new patch? |
| 13:56 | slef | new patch coming in 5mins |
| 13:56 | cait | very cool, thx |
| 13:58 | slef | Attached bug-5549-change-to-kohastructuresql-missing-from-c.patch |
| 14:00 | cait | starting tests... :) |
| 14:01 | upgrading from table? ;) | |
| 14:01 | I didn't say people should do that! :) | |
| 14:01 | will fix with my sign-off :) | |
| 14:02 | slef | upgrading from stable |
| 14:02 | damnit | |
| 14:02 | that's what I get for trying to redo a patch while I also manage kohacon12 sponsorship | |
| 14:02 | cait | you do well ) |
| 14:02 | :) | |
| 14:03 | ah | |
| 14:03 | I see I sent my earlier mail from the wrong mail address | |
| 14:03 | going to fix that | |
| 14:03 | jcamins | Does anyone have access to ISO standards without paying a fortune? |
| 14:06 | * cait | sighs |
| 14:06 | cait | I am confusing my windows |
| 14:06 | slef: can you recheck the patch? looks the same to me, perhaps missing git add? | |
| 14:06 | magnus_afk | sekjal: thanks for qa'ing Bug 7445! |
| 14:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
| 14:08 | slef | cait: AHDKjASHKDAHKJS |
| 14:08 | * cait | hides |
| 14:09 | slef | Attached bug-5549-change-to-kohastructuresql-missing-from-c.patch |
| 14:09 | third time lucky | |
| 14:09 | in future I'll wait until I can do one thing only! | |
| 14:15 | gmcharlt | jcamins: OK, I've pushed two commits that should straighten out -x for both DOM and GRS1 |
| 14:15 | note that it adds two config entries to koha-conf.xml | |
| 14:16 | * paul_p | head to push a few patches that have passed QA |
| 14:17 | paul_p | gmcharlt could you, by chance, find time to investigate the problem clrh & me have to push to contrib.git repo ? |
| 14:17 | (well, not by chance, this will happen only if you decide ;-) ) | |
| 14:20 | jcamins | cait: does that clarify? |
| 14:20 | cait | jcamins: ? |
| 14:21 | jcamins | cait: I just sent a message to the list. |
| 14:21 | cait | oh |
| 14:21 | let me finish this (learning from slef... one thing at a time) and then i will check | |
| 14:21 | jcamins | :) |
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| 14:22 | jcamins | gmcharlt: what sould BIB_INDEX_MODE and AUTH_INDEX_MODE be set to? |
| 14:23 | Oh, I see. | |
| 14:24 | cait | reading mail now :) |
| 14:24 | slef | learning from slef's mistakes |
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| 14:26 | cait | slef: i didn't say that :) |
| 14:26 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:26 | * jcamins | waves |
| 14:26 | * gmcharlt | waves |
| 14:27 | slef | wizzyrea: help! |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | ! |
| 14:27 | slef | wizzyrea: can I make a page have a parent but not appear in the menus? |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea: on koha-community.org website | |
| 14:27 | wizzyrea | hmmmm |
| 14:27 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 14:27 | * wizzyrea | ponders this |
| 14:27 | cait | slef: signed-off |
| 14:28 | magnus_afk: around? | |
| 14:28 | wizzyrea | which page? |
| 14:28 | slef | wizzyrea: and/or do pages two levels down not appear on submenus? |
| 14:28 | cait: thank you! | |
| 14:28 | * wizzyrea | would have to test that |
| 14:28 | cait | slef: evil bug fixed - thanks goes to you :) |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 14:29 | wahanui | well, the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 14:29 | slef | wizzyrea: create paypal landing pages |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | the first question is also or what is the goal? |
| 14:29 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | aha |
| 14:30 | sekjal | slef cait: passed QA |
| 14:31 | cait | yay :) |
| 14:31 | another evil bug on it's way to h... | |
| 14:31 | sorry, I am getting too excited about this :) | |
| 14:32 | sekjal | smashing evil bugs is worth getting excited about |
| 14:32 | 3.8 is going to be awesome! | |
| 14:32 | cait | :) |
| 14:33 | yep, I agree :) | |
| 14:33 | but I think some bug squashing is needed | |
| 14:33 | sekjal: if you test... take a look at your logs sometime | |
| 14:33 | we really should fix that | |
| 14:33 | lots of scripts lots of warnings | |
| 14:34 | jcamins | Weird... |
| 14:34 | wahanui | hmmm... weird is normal after a while :) |
| 14:34 | jcamins | I think the DOM filter may actually be vastly more efficient. |
| 14:34 | cait | jcamins: yay! |
| 14:35 | gmcharlt | jcamins: interesting -- I wouldn't have expected that |
| 14:35 | sekjal | cait: good point. ideally, we shouldn't get anything unexpected/undesired in our logs |
| 14:35 | cait | I filed some bugs |
| 14:35 | or added to existing bugs the output of my logs while testing | |
| 14:35 | jcamins | gmcharlt: nor would I. |
| 14:36 | cait | but perhaps someting qa could keep in mind too? |
| 14:36 | to check I mean? | |
| 14:36 | I tihnk we activated use warnings in a lot of scripts and it was ok, and then we added new things... | |
| 14:37 | jcamins | gmcharlt: but GRS-1 requires about 4 blocks per thousand records, whereas DOM requires just over one. |
| 14:37 | * gmcharlt | blinks |
| 14:37 | then goes in search of a large dataset | |
| 14:38 | cait | I could offer soe |
| 14:38 | I could offer some ... :) | |
| 14:38 | but probably too large | |
| 14:38 | gmcharlt | cait: large is just fine |
| 14:39 | sekjal | cait: I'll look into adding that to my QA workflow |
| 14:39 | cait | if you really mean that.. go here https://wiki.bsz-bw.de/doku.ph[…]:openaccess:start |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Of course, I might not understand what it's doing. |
| 14:40 | cait | sekjal: it's just something I noted while testing and I would provide patches... but it's still a bit hard for me to figure out why something is going wrong |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | cait: thanks! |
| 14:41 | cait | gmcharlt: I think it's really too large for that purpose :) only advertising something nice we do |
| 14:41 | gmcharlt | cait: well, I will be chopping it down to 5,000 to start ;) |
| 14:41 | cait | wise :) |
| 14:42 | magnus_afk: around? | |
| 14:45 | jcamins | Well I'll be. |
| 14:46 | gmcharlt: I should've bet against your guess that DOM indexing was going to explode the indexes. | |
| 14:47 | pastebot | "jcamins" at 24.193.130.86 pasted "Index space usage" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/333 |
| 14:47 | cait | gmcharlt: I think at least tübingen should have some original script records too.... |
| 14:48 | gmcharlt | cait: http://galen.esilibrary.com - would you mind eyeballing and letting me know how relevance ranking for the German records looks? |
| 14:48 | cait | oh |
| 14:48 | yes | |
| 14:48 | not sure how to test tho | |
| 14:48 | how do you test for english normally? | |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | keyword searches on short titles, for one |
| 14:49 | cait | ok, my first search was mean, but results don't look bad |
| 14:49 | I searched for 'der' an article | |
| 14:49 | gmcharlt | heh |
| 14:49 | cait | at first results have lots of der in the title |
| 14:49 | I like doing that - because in most ils it's a stop word :) | |
| 14:50 | what i always wondered about | |
| 14:50 | is there a reason it always ranks serials and sets first? | |
| 14:50 | before monographs? | |
| 14:50 | it's kind of annoying | |
| 14:50 | but I see tha thappen in all our catalogs | |
| 14:50 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I'm seeing similar results -- DOM taking up about half the disk space of GRS-1 |
| 14:51 | cait | gmcharlt: some information about how the ranking works or should work in general would help me testing |
| 14:52 | jcamins | cait: bahahahaha!!!! "How ranking works"... gmcharlt works miracles, but even he might find this problematic. ;) |
| 14:52 | * cait | sniffs |
| 14:52 | cait | not even for cookies? |
| 14:52 | my first thought was that it ranked things higher, where the term occured more than once | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | question re: dom vs grs-1 - incoming z39.50 searches can still happen right? |
| 14:53 | cait | but my second search for papyrus contradicts that |
| 14:53 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: yep |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | I admit i'm rather lost in the difference between the two. Is it just how they are stored? |
| 14:54 | jcamins | cait: that's how it works. Only, not the way you'd expect. Frequency is still kind of weird. |
| 14:54 | cait | hm ok |
| 14:54 | so it is not weirder than before | |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt: I see it not working worse than before - could you perhaps activate UseControlNumber on that system? | |
| 14:55 | gmcharlt | cait: sure, one sec |
| 14:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it's the difference between being able to say "I want an index which tells me all records which have at least one item which is not checked out and not lost" and only being able to say "I want an index which tells me which records have something not checked out and something not lost." |
| 14:55 | DOM allows you to do the former. | |
| 14:55 | Actually, no. | |
| 14:56 | The second is still to advanced. | |
| 14:56 | cait | the other way |
| 14:56 | jcamins | GRS-1 is "I want to have two indexes, one which can tell me if there's anything not lost on a record, and one that tells me if there's anything not checked out." |
| 14:56 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: the main difference is that the DOM filter gives you a *lot* more control over how you set up what you want indexed |
| 14:56 | jcamins | But GRS-1 doesn't allow you to say "they have to be the same record!" |
| 14:56 | *item | |
| 14:56 | * jcamins | goes to make coffee cake. |
| 14:57 | cait | ooh |
| 14:57 | cake... | |
| 14:57 | * wizzyrea | concedes that it may be over her head, goes back to making circ better. |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 14:57 | gmcharlt | cait: done |
| 14:57 | wizzyrea | j/k, (kinda) thanks for explaining |
| 14:57 | cait | thx! |
| 14:58 | cake.. better circ... and i get german relevance ranking? | |
| 14:58 | :) | |
| 14:58 | and I think I killed my browser | |
| 14:58 | chris_n | cake ranks up there in english relevance ranking imho :) |
| 14:58 | cait | hi chris_n |
| 14:58 | gmcharlt: I think i found a way to kill the opac | |
| 14:59 | gmcharlt | cait: how? |
| 14:59 | cait | some weird characters in a search for se,phr |
| 14:59 | chris_n | please resurrect it when your finished cait |
| 15:00 | cait | ok, correcting myself, I only killed the browser :) |
| 15:01 | * jcamins | wonders about search performance. |
| 15:02 | jcamins | gmcharlt: nice work on the relevance ranking! |
| 15:02 | You fixed the weighting, too, didn't you? | |
| 15:02 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I left it be for the moment -- kinda needs to be on a separate bug anyway |
| 15:02 | jcamins | Really? |
| 15:03 | Odd... | |
| 15:03 | It seems to be working the way I'd expect it now. | |
| 15:04 | cait | I think there is room for improvement- but really doesn't seem worse than before |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Okay, never mind. |
| 15:04 | cait | more better than worse |
| 15:04 | gmcharlt | cait: I'm in the process of loading more of the Universität Konstanz bib set into that database |
| 15:04 | cait | ah, you selected Konstanz :) |
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| 15:04 | gmcharlt | to bring it to a total of 988611 bibs |
| 15:04 | jcamins | wizzyrea: weren't you complaining about an issue with it? |
| 15:04 | cait | tübingen is really big, but they are very old and have lots of languages |
| 15:05 | gmcharlt: nice! | |
| 15:05 | jcamins | gmcharlt's adjustment to the rankings bring It back to the top of the results for "It." |
| 15:05 | cait | yay! |
| 15:06 | gmcharlt | jcamins: right - and as I mentioned in the bug, using Title-cover seemed OK as a compromise |
| 15:06 | jcamins | Yes, I think so. |
| 15:06 | * gmcharlt | realized last night that I didn't want to start getting a reputation for putting in features at the last minute that require reindexing all bibs upon upgrade ;) |
| 15:06 | jcamins | It's not exactly the same as the previous functionality, but it's a reasonable approximation. |
| 15:06 | lol | |
| 15:07 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I want to push a branch that organizes the commits a little better -- are you comfortable signing off? |
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| 15:08 | jcamins | gmcharlt: still poking. |
| 15:08 | gmcharlt | cool |
| 15:08 | jcamins | However, I'm feeling pretty good about it. |
| 15:09 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:11 | cait | gmcharlt: what I see I like too :) |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt: did you have time to include 880 fields? | |
| 15:11 | gmcharlt | cait: not for cutoff, but I'll have it next week |
| 15:11 | cait | ah, ok :) |
| 15:12 | gmcharlt: any chance to meet you in edinburgh? :) | |
| 15:12 | gmcharlt | because the change will be implemented just in the index definition XSL, it will be a pretty safe backport |
| 15:12 | cait | nice |
| 15:12 | gmcharlt | cait: unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this year |
| 15:12 | cait | oh, was hoping to meet you |
| 15:12 | but perhaps next year | |
| 15:13 | jcamins | What is Storable::mretrieve? |
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| 15:15 | jcamins | Never mind. |
| 15:17 | gmcharlt | jcamins: the bug7818-dom-biblio-final branch in the ESI wip repo has the cleaned-up commits |
| 15:18 | jcamins | gmcharlt: did you change the paths in the generated by comment that the koha-to-zebra-indexdefs.xsl stylesheet produces? |
| 15:20 | Actually, I guess it's okay as-is. | |
| 15:21 | One more concern. | |
| 15:21 | Going forward, we're going to be editing the koha indexdefs, not record.abs. | |
| 15:21 | gmcharlt | jcamins: nonetheless, I've pushed a commit to bug7818-dom-biblio-final to clarify |
| 15:21 | jcamins | Is that mentioned in a commit message, at least? |
| 15:22 | cait | for dom and grs or only for dom? |
| 15:22 | gmcharlt | jcamins: I'll push a commit to clarify |
| 15:22 | jcamins | For DOM. |
| 15:22 | Thanks. | |
| 15:22 | cait | oh |
| 15:22 | should we be testing for normarc and unimarc too? | |
| 15:23 | jcamins | cait: it wouldn't be a bad idea. |
| 15:23 | On the other hand, we already have a precedent for MARC21-only DOM indexing. | |
| 15:25 | * chris_n | goes off in search of food |
| 15:25 | * jcamins | realizes he only got to the "unwrap butter" stage of making coffee cake. |
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| 15:26 | cait | wb paul_p |
| 15:26 | paul_p | ;-) |
| 15:27 | cait | jcamins: I didn't even get there :) |
| 15:27 | oh.. and new patch to sign-off on... very easy... with test plan... bug 7900 | |
| 15:27 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7900 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Link to vendor from subscription details is broken |
| 15:29 | jcamins | Okay, I'm comfortable to sign off with the addition of a commit noting that the koha-indexdefs file is the new canonical source for DOM indexing rules. |
| 15:29 | gmcharlt | jcamins: ok, I've pusehd those clarifications to bug7818-dom-biblio-final as well |
| 15:29 | jcamins | I'm sure there are issues that'll come up, but this seems solid enough for 3.8. |
| 15:29 | Oh, wait, one more test. | |
| 15:30 | I didn't test non-XML indexing with GRS-1 again after we got the XML indexing working. | |
| 15:31 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7641 - Add ability to suspend reserves - Followup <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed35a09f7fa8b24bb> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7310' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]cf27d92eada86e9d7> / 7368 Followup for indentation in VirtualShelves.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eb/?p=koha.git;a= |
| 15:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #700 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:38 | nengard | Looking for some report help - i need a report to list titles that have an indicator of 1 in the first indicator field of the 490 |
| 15:38 | tips? | |
| 15:52 | gmcharlt | nengard: select biblionumber from biblioitems where marcxml regexp 'datafield tag="490" ind1="1"'; |
| 15:52 | nengard | thanks gmcharlt will give a whirl :) |
| 15:53 | gmcharlt | one doesn't actually need the regexp; select biblionumber from biblioitems where marcxml like '%datafield tag="490" ind1="1"%' will work as well |
| 15:53 | nengard | ooooo |
| 15:53 | that's super easy | |
| 16:01 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5549 follow-up DBRev number <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]47c3c53919542eebc> / bug 5549: change to kohastructure.sql missing from commit 8cea8e5cc05075dc391194248d3... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]21bdf2da643901b96> / Bug 7897: Move the SocialNetworks syspref to the Opac tab <http://git.koha-community.or |
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| 16:13 | Michael | Hello? |
| 16:14 | jcamins | gmcharlt: I guess I should sign off on the patches and attach them to the bug? |
| 16:14 | Actually, that was a question for sekjal. | |
| 16:14 | sekjal: see above question? | |
| 16:17 | gmcharlt: DOM indexing takes about the same amount of time. | |
| 16:17 | But way less disk space. | |
| 16:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #700: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/700/ |
| 16:21 | * tajoli: Italian translation teams | |
| 16:21 | * m.de.rooy: 7368 Followup for indentation in VirtualShelves.pm | |
| 16:21 | * kyle: Bug 7641 - Add ability to suspend reserves - Followup | |
| 16:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 16:21 | jcamins | paul_p: around? |
| 16:21 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #701 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 16:21 | paul_p | jcamins for a few minuts yes |
| 16:22 | jcamins | I'm prepared to sign off on bug 7818. |
| 16:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 16:22 | jcamins | Is the best thing to do to use git-bz to attach all the patches to the bug? |
| 16:22 | cait | gmcharlt++ jcamins++ :) |
| 16:24 | paul_p | I think yes. BUT be carefull with -e option, i feel there are some problems when you want to attach X bugs (X>1) because you can obsolete on every bug, and obsolete patches that just have been uploaded a few seconds before) |
| 16:25 | not 100% sure, but I think | |
| 16:25 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, I've had that problem too. |
| 16:25 | gmcharlt did his development in a branch, so I don't think there are any patches currently on the bug. | |
| 16:28 | gmcharlt | there are not |
| 16:30 | jcamins | sekjal: Bug 7818 is waiting for your QA. Should be pretty painless, as it works a charm. |
| 16:30 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Signed Off , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 16:34 | jcamins | paul_p: ten *great* patches for you on that bug. :) |
| 16:34 | paul_p | jcamins not for today ;-) |
| 16:35 | jcamins | paul_p: well, there are no string changes, so it'll keep until Monday, I suppose. :) |
| 16:35 | paul_p | (and I can push them after string freeze, because: 1- it should not change anything if you don't use it. 2- no string changes) |
| 16:35 | ;-) | |
| 16:35 | gmcharlt | paul_p: you have better things to do on an Friday evening? ;) |
| 16:35 | cait | paul_p: I am going to look at some more string patches today |
| 16:35 | paul_p | jcamins & gmcharlt = monday is a holiday in France. |
| 16:35 | cait | or already too late? |
| 16:35 | jcamins | paul_p: there's nothing wrong with Tuesday. ;) |
| 16:36 | paul_p | cait, just about to send a mail about bug 2780 & a few hours before string freeze ! |
| 16:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 16:36 | jcamins | Needs signoff?!? |
| 16:36 | cait | yep |
| 16:36 | oleonard did more :) | |
| 16:36 | jcamins | I spent over an hour signing off on that two days ago! |
| 16:36 | cait | there are also some interesting acq featues |
| 16:36 | *sigh* | |
| 16:37 | too much - need help! | |
| 16:38 | * wizzyrea | can look at those capitalization ones |
| 16:39 | paul_p | cait for acq features, I think they'll wait for 3.10 (I can't QA them myself, and Ian suggested to delay them because they're large. If you can convince someone else of the QA team ;-) ) |
| 16:39 | cait | I think i will not go against ian |
| 16:39 | I am worried about warnings in the logs in acq modle | |
| 16:39 | there are lots | |
| 16:39 | I noted on some bugs | |
| 16:40 | what i can do is give the bug a sign off you asked for | |
| 16:40 | and it would match the other interface | |
| 16:40 | which I think is an argument for including it | |
| 16:41 | bug 5339 | |
| 16:41 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq |
| 16:41 | cait | hm no |
| 16:41 | that's not the one | |
| 16:41 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 2733 - Can't print patron account <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a47658380e21f4645> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_2780' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6bb9d0f7688833e2> / Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (OPAC pages) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]git;a=commitdiff; |
| 16:45 | * jcamins | finally eats some kuchen. |
| 16:45 | paul_p | OK, ladies and gentlemen, have a good (and holy) week-end ! it's time to go back home for me. |
| 16:45 | cait | bye paul_p |
| 16:45 | have a nice weekend | |
| 16:51 | gmcharlt | cait: about 330K of the Konstanz records are now being indexed -- I realized I didn't have quite enough disk on the VM to index them all |
| 16:52 | cait | ah yes |
| 16:52 | takes lots of space | |
| 17:02 | clrh | have a good week end all |
| 17:02 | cait | bye clrh :) |
| 17:08 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #701: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/701/ |
| 17:08 | * srdjan: bug_7613: OCLC Connexion gateway | |
| 17:08 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7613 follow up to fix perlcritic errors | |
| 17:08 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7613 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 17:08 | * magnus: Bug 7445 - Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" | |
| 17:08 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib |
| 17:08 | jenkins_koha | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7897: Move the SocialNetworks syspref to the Opac tab |
| 17:08 | * mjr: bug 5549: change to kohastructure.sql missing from commit 8cea8e5cc05075dc391194248d31a54586389601 | |
| 17:08 | * paul.poulain: Bug 5549 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 17:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7445 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Clicking on a tag gives "Language ... does not exist" |
| 17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7897 minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SocialNetworks doesn't fit in searching | |
| 17:09 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans | |
| 17:09 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #702 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 17:10 | cait | jcamins: are you working on 2780? |
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| 17:12 | jcamins | cait: not at the moment. |
| 17:12 | cait | I am starting on it now |
| 17:12 | if you want to later, we need to talk :) | |
| 17:12 | * jcamins | doesn't really want to, thanks. :P |
| 17:13 | cait | :) |
| 17:14 | * gmcharlt | wonders how many people will go blind in the service of that bug ;) |
| 17:14 | cait | hehe |
| 17:14 | too many... | |
| 17:15 | for the sake of consistency! | |
| 17:17 | gmcharlt | hobgoblins are stealing our eyes! |
| 17:41 | sekjal | back |
| 17:42 | jcamins: I'll try to look at 7818 this weekend | |
| 17:42 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 17:43 | sekjal | my mother-in-law will be coming by to visit, so it may need to wait until Monday |
| 17:49 | slef | @quote add <gmcharlt> hobgoblins are stealing our eyes! |
| 17:49 | huginn` | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #198 added. |
| 17:53 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #702: UNSTABLE in 44 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/702/ |
| 17:53 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7781 : enhancements on main page | |
| 17:53 | * kyle: Bug 7758 - Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert | |
| 17:53 | * mjr: bug 7894 [SIGNED-OFF]: crude fix: convert results array into an arrayref | |
| 17:53 | * dpavlin: Bug 7847 - OPAC search dies with plack | |
| 17:53 | * dpavlin: Bug 6701 - login timeout is in seconds | |
| 17:53 | * oleonard: Bug 2780 - Capitalize strings consistently (OPAC pages) | |
| 17:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Enhancements to the main page (first step) |
| 17:53 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 2733 - Can't print patron account |
| 17:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Koha allowing LOST items to check out without alert |
| 17:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7894 blocker, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Broken detail page for first link on page 2 from search result page in OPAC | |
| 17:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7847 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , OPAC search dies with plack | |
| 17:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , language on timeout system preference is wrong | |
| 17:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently | |
| 17:53 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2733 normal, P3, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Can't print patron account | |
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| 17:54 | jcamins | Unstable? |
| 17:54 | !jenkins status | |
| 17:54 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
| 17:54 | 3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (11 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/3_6_Packages/7/ | |
| 17:54 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (4 mo 4 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/ | |
| 17:54 | Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 15 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/ | |
| 17:54 | Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (1 mo 2 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/44/ | |
| 17:54 | Koha_Docs: last build: 44 (6 days 22 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_Docs/44/ | |
| 17:54 | Koha_master: last build: 702 (45 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/702/ | |
| 17:54 | Master_Packages: last build: 33 (45 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster_Packages/33/ | |
| 17:56 | fredericd | gmcharlt: DOM works like a charm with UNIMARC |
| 17:57 | gmcharlt | fredericd: yay! |
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| 17:58 | gmcharlt | although I think there's one case it doesn't handle yet |
| 17:58 | fixed field possible in a subfield (e.g., the UNIMARC 100$a) | |
| 17:59 | fredericd | you mean you tweaked the MARC21 DOM for fixed fields? |
| 18:00 | gmcharlt | fredericd: the record.abs converting knows how to translate range() definitions for fixed fields |
| 18:00 | but not range() entries within a subfield | |
| 18:00 | jcamins | gmcharlt: we have those in MARC21 for authorities and linking fields. |
| 18:01 | cait | sco main |
| 18:01 | jcamins | We just don't index them yet. |
| 18:01 | gmcharlt | jcamins: indeed |
| 18:02 | well, it wouldn't be hard to add support for constructs like melm 100a foo:w:range(... | |
| 18:02 | I'll try to put a patch together for tomorrow | |
| 18:02 | fredericd: any changes you could send me a small file of UNIMARC bib records? | |
| 18:02 | fredericd | indeed, currently Zebra doesn't index properly UNIMARC 100 field |
| 18:03 | gmcharlt: sure | |
| 18:04 | gmcharlt | fredericd: even in GRS-1 it doesn't index the UNIMARC 100 properly? |
| 18:06 | fredericd | several indexes are populated but not used elsewhere |
| 18:07 | gmcharlt | fredericd: ah, I see |
| 18:07 | cait | what is in UNIMARC 100 ? |
| 18:08 | fredericd | gmcharlt: see private msg |
| 18:08 | gmcharlt | cait: it's the equivalent of the MARC21 008 field |
| 18:08 | druthb left #koha | |
| 18:09 | cait | gmcharlt: thx :) |
| 18:14 | slef | yengh |
| 18:16 | cait | hi slef |
| 18:17 | * slef | adds bits to registration form as emailed |
| 18:17 | cait | cool :) |
| 18:17 | slef | heh wrong channel |
| 18:17 | * slef | returns to #kohacon |
| 18:20 | cait | fredericd++ |
| 18:20 | fredericd: did you see my email about the pootle server? | |
| 18:23 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/#!/xmacex/[…]88329700689580032 |
| 18:23 | ? | |
| 18:23 | cait | of happiness I think? |
| 18:23 | our nice international release team? | |
| 18:24 | gmcharlt | an allergy to the color green? |
| 18:24 | cait | or that :) |
| 18:24 | gmcharlt++ :) | |
| 18:25 | jcamins | The explanation for why it's kc.org? |
| 18:26 | nengard | was just wondering about that |
| 18:31 | cait | he explained - now I am sad |
| 18:33 | jcamins | Oh, that's really sad. :( |
| 18:41 | magnus_afk | yeah, xmacex deserves better than a closed source ils... |
| 18:42 | cait | what is he using? |
| 18:42 | or forced to use...? | |
| 18:43 | magnus_afk | a swedish system from a vendor called axiell |
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| 18:49 | fredericd | cait: your email saying it doesn't work? because it should work now |
| 18:49 | cait | cool -will continue testing then :) |
| 18:50 | can you give me the link again? I think I forgot to save it | |
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| 18:53 | slef | do people think of "the full monty" as the film or something else? |
| 18:54 | oleonard | If someone used it in conversation I would think they meant "the whole thing" or "all the way" |
| 18:54 | But I would also think of the film | |
| 18:56 | slef | So any suggestion for another cult film title for the lower sponsorship band? |
| 18:56 | gmcharlt | Rocky Horror Picture Show? |
| 18:57 | oleonard | Why a cult film title slef? |
| 18:58 | slef | oh anything related to "the full monty" |
| 18:58 | consistency in naming | |
| 18:58 | oleonard | What's the context? |
| 18:58 | slef | kohacon12 sponsorship packages |
| 18:59 | something more interesting than "silver" | |
| 18:59 | cait | oleonard: my eyes start hurting... |
| 18:59 | oleonard | cait: Mine too! |
| 18:59 | Oh I get it slef. Fully Monty is the top, you need the lower one. | |
| 19:00 | cait | oleonard: I do feel sorry for you... we should get cookies |
| 19:00 | slef | "the nifty fifty" has been suggested |
| 19:03 | good/bad/shoot-me-now? | |
| 19:03 | cait | hm |
| 19:04 | but you want people to do more than the nifty fifty I think? | |
| 19:04 | apart from that it sounds not bad to me | |
| 19:04 | oleonard | http://www.filmsite.org/cultfilms4.html |
| 19:08 | slef | mmmm, Shallow Grave was set in Edinburgh... best not call the lower level "shallow pockets" though. |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Happy holidays, #koha. |
| 19:11 | rangi | gmcharlt: rocky horror picture show was written by an nzer, so has a tie in :) |
| 19:12 | slef: trainspotting :) | |
| 19:14 | cait | morning rangi |
| 19:15 | slef | rangi: yeah. Suspect that won't go down well in Edinburgh. Not the most glam side of the city, that. |
| 19:15 | rangi | slef: yep, tongue firmly in cheek on that one |
| 19:15 | evening cait | |
| 19:15 | cait | the registration form is online :) |
| 19:16 | * rangi | registers |
| 19:16 | slef | yeah... that wasn't entirely intentional but hey, it's there now |
| 19:16 | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/registration/ | |
| 19:16 | cait | moving forward! |
| 19:16 | rangi | slef: soft launch, its all the rage |
| 19:16 | * cait | volunteers rangi or slef to mail the list about it |
| 19:18 | rangi | i can do that |
| 19:18 | got words for me, or shall i just make some up? | |
| 19:18 | cait | there are some words above the form.. but not many |
| 19:19 | slef | the koha list probably doesn't need many words |
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| 19:19 | rangi | yeah |
| 19:19 | ill do koha and koha-dev | |
| 19:24 | done | |
| 19:27 | slef | rangi++ |
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| 19:35 | slef | maybe-final question: is the film Kind Hearts and Coronets much known outside the UK? |
| 19:36 | oleonard | Not to me |
| 19:36 | slef | is "Kind Hearts" OK as a title for the lower level? |
| 19:37 | even if you don't know the film | |
| 19:37 | Alec Guinness before he became more famous for "they scare easily, but they'll be back and in greater numbers than before" and so on. | |
| 19:37 | oleonard | Sounds fine to me |
| 19:38 | rangi | yeah and it will give people a good film to go watch |
| 19:38 | :) | |
| 19:54 | cait | oleonard: how many more until you are done? :) |
| 19:54 | oleonard | Too many! |
| 19:55 | cait | ouch |
| 19:56 | slef | is oleonard patchbombing us again? :) |
| 19:57 | oleonard | Over 150 left cait |
| 19:57 | slef: Not bombing so much today, my eyes are growing weak | |
| 19:57 | cait | *sigh* |
| 19:57 | I had hoped... there weren't many more... | |
| 19:57 | slef | oleonard: my eyes are grey and my hair is weak... |
| 19:58 | cait | oleonard: I did some follow ups |
| 19:58 | tiny | |
| 19:58 | oleonard | I saw that. Thanks. |
| 19:58 | The job will have to be left half done for this release. | |
| 20:01 | I shouldn't have started on the help templates. Better to have gotten further in the main templates. | |
| 20:03 | cait | you could still go back to the main templates :) |
| 20:04 | slef | http://koha-community.org/koha[…]soring-kohacon12/ |
| 20:05 | cait | yay! slef++ |
| 20:08 | sekjal | oooh, less than $1000 for ticket to Edinburgh.... |
| 20:08 | slef | @karma |
| 20:08 | huginn` | slef: Highest karma: "rangi" (542), "oleonard" (471), and "wizzyrea" (320). Lowest karma: "<!" (-109), "failed" (-73), and "-" (-44). You (slef) are ranked 13 out of 2008. |
| 20:08 | rangi | Do it! |
| 20:09 | slef | rangi: is it your fault that viewlog.pl has a do_it parameter? |
| 20:09 | rangi | Nope |
| 20:09 | * slef | checks the paypal account limits |
| 20:09 | rangi | Never worked on log stuff |
| 20:09 | * oleonard | bids #koha a good weekend |
| 20:10 | slef | rangi: oh well. I'll speak no ill of the dead. |
| 20:16 | * sekjal | also departs, and wishes all those in #koha well |
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| 20:54 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I'm asking this question out of curiosity and no idea of how it would actually work: Is it possible to create a notice that would gather all the patron's with Overdues and send it to one email that the library used? That way we could print it out? Right now our system prints out a page for each patron's account that has overdues and we can send just that page |
| 20:54 | out to the patron without worrying what else would be on the paper. This is what I'm trying to figure out how to do... | |
| 20:56 | slef | YoungPublicLibrarian: not sure about a notice, but I think a Report would be possible. |
| 20:57 | YoungPublicLibrarian | That would work too, but our Vendor told us that reports are more of an administrative thing... |
| 20:58 | In fact, if its a report we could make it just be able to be printed out instead of emailing the pages to the library... | |
| 21:00 | slef | not sure, but you could get a spreadsheet out of a report |
| 21:00 | and then mailmerge or whatever | |
| 21:01 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Okay, but could we get the spreadsheet to print out just one patron's information on one page? That way we could send out each page with separate information on it. |
| 21:02 | I would really like to continue this conversation, but I'm required elsewhere at this time. If you can would you email me an example of how to create such a report to shortycalvinorofino-id.com? If you can't I understand. Thanks! |
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| 21:20 | slef | hi wizzyrea... I've still that problem on http://koha-community.org/koha[…]soring-kohacon12/ with the submenu in the top bar |
| 21:21 | but now is dinnertime | |
| 21:21 | bbl | |
| 21:26 | cait | very late dinne! |
| 21:36 | * magnus_afk | does a little happydance for his 50th commit in koha, then promptly falls asleep |
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