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| 00:20 | Topic for #koha is now 3.6.4 and 3.4.8 and 3.2.11 Now Available || Koha Community Website - http://www.koha-community.org || General IRC meeting, 2 May 2012 at 2:00 UTC+0 | |
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| 01:28 | BSES | found it! Thank you so much - I should read the entire manual shouldn't I? :) |
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| 04:04 | libsysguy | later #koha |
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| 04:10 | mib_82cyha | Hi |
| 04:10 | Heloo | |
| 04:11 | I have an issue with koha, its always XML | |
| 04:12 | it always fails the package XML::RSS | |
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| 04:14 | Mahesh | Hello Good Morning |
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| 04:35 | mib_f4svf6 | hello |
| 04:36 | I have an issue with perl package XML::RSS | |
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| 04:38 | mib_f4svf6 | hello |
| 04:41 | cait | hi mib_f4svf6 |
| 04:41 | hi #koha | |
| 04:51 | mib_f4svf6 | have an issue with perl package error XML::RSS while installing |
| 04:52 | hi cait | |
| 04:53 | error message is Test Summary Report ------------------- t/1.0-generate.t (Wstat: 2048 Tests: 25 Failed: 8) Failed tests: 16-18, 21-25 Non-zero exit status: 8 t/2.0-generate.t (Wstat: 2048 Tests: 29 Failed: 8) Failed tests: 16-18, 24-28 Non-zero exit status: 8 t/test-generated-items.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 174 Failed: 0) | |
| 04:57 | cait | mib_f4svf6: which version are you trying to install? |
| 04:58 | mib_f4svf6 | hi cait ;; koha version koha-3.06.04 and operating system open suse 12.1 |
| 04:59 | cait | hm I am not sure why the tests fail |
| 04:59 | it might be ok to continue | |
| 04:59 | mib_f4svf6 | all other packages are installed sucessfully |
| 05:00 | and i had compile the packages | |
| 05:00 | while trying in browser its showing the package error | |
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| 05:22 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 05:22 | hello miss cait. | |
| 05:22 | cait | hi Oak |
| 05:23 | sorry mib_f4svf6 not sure how to fix it | |
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| 05:25 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 05:30 | mib_f4svf6 | Failed test 'Parsed ./t/generated/1.0-generated.xml' # at t/1.0-generate.t line 118. # got: ' |
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| 06:36 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:41 | alex_away | hello! |
| 06:46 | cait | bonjour alex_away |
| 06:46 | hi reiveune :) | |
| 06:47 | reiveune | hi cait :) |
| 06:50 | cait | ok, have to run - bbl |
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| 07:03 | Joubu | hi |
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| 07:30 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 07:48 | kf | hi asaurat :) |
| 07:49 | asaurat | hi !! :) |
| 07:52 | kf | :) |
| 08:04 | rangi | evening |
| 08:05 | kf | evening :) |
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| 08:32 | mbalmer | paul_p++ |
| 08:34 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #699 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 08:35 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7785: Remove unused function columns() which uses a MySQLism. <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fc9895fdd601a5f11> |
| 08:36 | rangi | no longer worried about the logs? |
| 08:45 | @wunder nzwn | |
| 08:45 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0°C (8:00 PM NZST on April 05, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:45 | rangi | @wunder edinburgh,uk |
| 08:45 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Edinburgh, United Kingdom is 4.0°C (9:45 AM BST on April 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
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| 08:59 | Oak | i don't know if my last message went through? |
| 08:59 | copy pasting: how important is it to set-up and use the Acquisition module? I mean, if I am skipping it altogether, can it come back and haunt me later? If yes then under what conditions? | |
| 09:00 | rangi | nope |
| 09:00 | you can totally not use it, and at any time start to use it | |
| 09:00 | Oak | okay good. |
| 09:00 | thank you! | |
| 09:01 | rangi | no worries |
| 09:01 | slef | hi all |
| 09:01 | magnus_away: thanks for the signoff | |
| 09:01 | rangi | heya slef |
| 09:01 | slef | eythian: failed QA? Really? :( |
| 09:01 | Oak | hello slef |
| 09:01 | rangi | heh, he replaced it with one that did all the dependencies, but yes he could have just followed up |
| 09:04 | eythian | slef: well, I wasn't sure how long it'd take me to make a replacement, so I figured that I'd mark it that while I did one. |
| 09:04 | turned out to be quick, so I added that. | |
| 09:05 | it would have been harder to make a follow up, as it's all generated by scripts anyway | |
| 09:05 | rangi | you not still at work eythian ? |
| 09:06 | slef | eythian: I added only the ones necessary to make the build work. I thought you must have a reason for not listing everything. Something like a debian/HACKING might be useful. |
| 09:06 | rangi | hmm that really didn't need not in there |
| 09:06 | eythian | no, finishing up by eating my lunch as dinner (forgot it was a pizza day) and don't yet have a microwave to reheat it at home. |
| 09:07 | slef: ah, no. The script walks through all the declared dependencies and adds them. If it shows them, they almost always should be added. | |
| 09:07 | you're right, a file explaining that would be good. | |
| 09:08 | slef | eythian: what script? |
| 09:08 | wahanui | script is, like, here, take it, pretty it up, use it ;) |
| 09:08 | eythian | slef: debian/update-control |
| 09:09 | slef | eythian: doh, should have spotted that one |
| 09:09 | eythian | it actually needs a bit of work when I get the chance, there are some deps not in debian that it freaks out about a bit |
| 09:10 | (in sid, not in squeeze I think) | |
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| 09:12 | slef | aaaaag bug 2780 mailbombed me |
| 09:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 09:12 | slef | another drawback of lots-of-little-patches |
| 09:21 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #699: SUCCESS in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/699/ |
| 09:21 | marc: Bug 7785: Remove unused function columns() which uses a MySQLism. | |
| 09:21 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7785 trivial, P5 - low, ---, marc, Pushed to Master , Unnecessary MySQL-ism: C4::Members columns() |
| 09:25 | slef | rangi: what's your view on running that git gc command that fredericd suggests? |
| 09:28 | rangi | id have to test it doesn't do anything weird |
| 09:28 | git gc is fine | |
| 09:28 | i need to read up on what --prune=now does | |
| 09:28 | probably when im more sober | |
| 09:29 | ahhh | |
| 09:29 | git gc does prune 2 weeks ago by default | |
| 09:29 | so yeah its harmless i thnk | |
| 09:33 | slef | rangi: paul_p just reported it's a memory and cpu hog |
| 09:34 | but if you can get through that, it looks fine | |
| 09:34 | rangi | well thats the --aggressive bit |
| 09:34 | that works the machine hard | |
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| 09:35 | slef | wahanui: irc log? |
| 09:35 | wahanui | i think irc log is at http://stats.workbuffer.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 09:35 | rangi | logs? |
| 09:35 | wahanui | logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 09:36 | slef | errr, which to use? |
| 09:36 | rangi | same machine but nicer url |
| 09:36 | its both my computer here at home | |
| 09:36 | slef | wahanui: forget irc log |
| 09:36 | wahanui | slef: I forgot irc log |
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| 10:39 | dpavlin_ | rangi: awake again :-) |
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| 11:03 | kf | hi dpavlin_ :) |
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| 11:44 | dpavlin_ | Did you noticed that Samuel erased himself from Translation Manager role? http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]diff=0&oldid=7303 |
| 11:45 | Culiforge | Could someone offer some assistance here, Fedora14, trying to get to the koha web setup, http://pastebin.com/gYAQPRdu |
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| 11:50 | slef | Culiforge: have you installed the package containing Authen::CAS::Client? |
| 11:51 | Culiforge | slef: should have.. checking... |
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| 11:59 | Culiforge | slef: hmm, went to install and get [msg] no 'root/.cpanplus/custom-sources' dir, skipping custom sources |
| 11:59 | jcamins | Culiforge: you shouldn't need any custom sources, I don't think. |
| 12:00 | Culiforge | slef: wait,wait.. it's still going |
| 12:01 | it just paused quite long.. maybe searching sources I think | |
| 12:04 | 'Can't call method "id" on an undefined value at InstallAuth.pm line 288' | |
| 12:05 | that's from the browser | |
| 12:05 | I think it's good news that there's only on error now :) | |
| 12:06 | *one* | |
| 12:07 | jcamins | Culiforge: you're missing CGI::Session::something-or-other. |
| 12:08 | Culiforge | one sec, checking on that.. |
| 12:08 | jcamins | CGI::Session::Serialize::yaml |
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| 12:10 | slef | @query google books |
| 12:10 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3673 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Pazpar2 integration |
| 12:10 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) | |
| 12:10 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6035 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Mobile interface for OPAC | |
| 12:10 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7594 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Google Cover CSS suggestions | |
| 12:10 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7657 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Google and OpenLibrary image conflict | |
| 12:10 | slef | I'm taking bug 6267 |
| 12:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
| 12:11 | jcamins | slef: go for it. |
| 12:16 | Culiforge | jcamins: slef - muhahaha, thanks, that did the trick, I'm in. kudos and cookies to you both |
| 12:19 | slef | Changes submitted for bug 6267 |
| 12:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
| 12:24 | * dpavlin_ | happy -- first fully succeful database upgrade on plack with bug 7857 :-) |
| 12:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7857 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , database upgrade fails with plack |
| 12:25 | kf | :) |
| 12:26 | slef | actually, why does check-url GET rather than HEAD? |
| 12:29 | not that it would have fixed bug 6267 | |
| 12:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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| 12:39 | dpavlin_ | bug 6701 changed syspreference timeout to ms, which is wrong. Can somebody sign-off it before string freeze? |
| 12:39 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
| 12:40 | kf | I can try to do it tonight |
| 12:40 | chris_n | dpavlin_: I can do it in a few moments |
| 12:41 | hi kf | |
| 12:41 | dpavlin_ | kf++ chris_n++ :-) |
| 12:42 | kf | :) |
| 12:42 | chris_n++ | |
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| 12:51 | libsysguy | sometimes you're trolling your own catalog and you see a book that just makes you go WTF |
| 12:52 | then you make the mistake of opening it and wish you hadn't | |
| 12:52 | kf | ? |
| 12:52 | libsysguy | Tantra for two |
| 12:52 | kf | lol |
| 12:53 | libsysguy | …full of naked fat people |
| 12:53 | WHYYYY | |
| 12:53 | kf | and that in a library, scandalous |
| 12:53 | libsysguy | in a conservative library |
| 12:53 | actually I found a book in reference one day that was "Teaching to a segregated classroom" | |
| 12:57 | * chris_n | wonders why we create biblioimages in rev 3.07.00.010 and again later in 3.07.00.025 |
| 12:57 | jcamins | chris_n: typo. |
| 12:57 | chris_n | where? |
| 12:58 | jcamins | kohastructure.sql. |
| 12:58 | chris_n | the create table statements look identical |
| 12:58 | kf | chris_n: there was a bug |
| 12:58 | wrong table name in some installations | |
| 12:58 | because different name in kohastructure | |
| 12:58 | chris_n | I see a note to the effect that the table name is wrong |
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| 12:59 | chris_n | ahh, so if you performed a new install between the two revs you had an incorrect table name? |
| 12:59 | so why not a simple RENAME TABLE rather than drop and create | |
| 12:59 | jcamins | Right. |
| 12:59 | I don't recall. | |
| 13:00 | chris_n | or was the entire structure wrong? |
| 13:00 | jcamins | I think there may have been an error in the table name and also in some of the column names. |
| 13:00 | And since there was no way for data to get into it, I decided to just use DROP and CREATE. | |
| 13:00 | chris_n | k, nasty business errors are |
| 13:00 | jcamins | Yup. |
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| 13:06 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 13:07 | i can't upload patron images in bulk | |
| 13:07 | picture-upload.pl: Can't exec "unzip": No such file or directory | |
| 13:08 | dpavlin_ | vfernandes: apt-get install unzip |
| 13:08 | vfernandes | omg... i thought that was some problem with the script and not a missing package |
| 13:09 | jcamins | vfernandes: I think that feature may currently be broken. |
| 13:09 | Oh, that means you need to install unzip. | |
| 13:09 | sudo apt-get install unzip | |
| 13:10 | dpavlin_ | Did you install from koha package? It has dependecy on unzip so it should work AFAIK |
| 13:10 | vfernandes | i've installed the unzip but it gives another error |
| 13:11 | Opening /tmp/KQIJOcb0oH/ failed! | |
| 13:12 | jcamins | vfernandes: unfortunately, I'm still pretty sure that feature doesn't work at the moment. |
| 13:12 | vfernandes | damn :/ |
| 13:13 | so how i can upload praton images in bulk? | |
| 13:13 | jcamins | vfernandes: I don't think you can. |
| 13:14 | vfernandes: I could be mistaken, I don't ever use that feature. | |
| 13:14 | vfernandes | ok, thanks jcamins |
| 13:14 | another questions that kf had tried to help me | |
| 13:15 | i'm having some strange enconding problems with Koha | |
| 13:15 | chris_n | vfernandes: that feature has worked fine in the past, if it does not now, please file a bug |
| 13:16 | jcamins | chris_n: it just broke recently. I think there is a bug. |
| 13:16 | vfernandes | i'm using 3.2.6... not a recent version |
| 13:16 | jcamins | Bug 7643. |
| 13:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images |
| 13:17 | jcamins | vfernandes: it worked fine in 3.2. |
| 13:17 | vfernandes | ok i will check the logs... |
| 13:19 | now you can try help me whit something.... i've having strange encoding problems with the MARC expanded views and cataloguing view | |
| 13:20 | * chris_n | dutifully reassigns 7643 to himself |
| 13:20 | vfernandes | i'll give you a exemple |
| 13:23 | http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=84701 | |
| 13:24 | look at tags description... encoding probelm :/ | |
| 13:25 | i've checked in the code of opac-MARCDetail.pl and the tags are returned well from the database but when concating the string the encoding gets wrong | |
| 13:25 | $tag_data{tag} = $fields[$x_i]->tag() . ' ' . C4::Koha::display_marc_indicators($fields[$x_i]) . ' - ' . $tagslib->{ $fields[$x_i]->tag() }->{lib}; | |
| 13:25 | jcamins | vfernandes: did you try a newer version? |
| 13:26 | At the very least, you should be running 3.2.10, which is the last version of 3.2.x. | |
| 13:26 | vfernandes | jcamins the same database, the same scripts and templates in another system works fine |
| 13:28 | same Koha version | |
| 13:30 | before that code line the tags and descriptions are correct. After concat encoding go bad :/ | |
| 13:31 | jcamins | vfernandes: in that case, it's something to do with your particular setup. |
| 13:31 | vfernandes | locale are UTF8, same for Apache and for MySQL |
| 13:31 | any idea of what it could be? | |
| 13:33 | Culiforge | does koha require a specific version of PDF::API2::Simple, the version I have doesn't want to install? |
| 13:33 | jcamins | Culiforge: it's not required at all. |
| 13:33 | vfernandes: none, sorry. | |
| 13:34 | Culiforge: it's used for patron cards, labels, and invoices, but you can continue on if installing it is not working now. | |
| 13:36 | Culiforge | jcamins: hmm, web installer is telling me it MUST be installed. both makefile and cpan tell me can't locate inc/module/install.pm |
| 13:36 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 13:36 | It shouldn't. | |
| 13:37 | Culiforge | jcamins: big red letters too |
| 13:37 | jcamins | Yeah, that's not so good. |
| 13:38 | Culiforge | jcamins: otherwise.. when you say it's not needed... I tend to listen to you... |
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| 13:39 | Culiforge | jcamins: could it be a problem with the source file? |
| 13:40 | jcamins | Culiforge: oh, I know what it is. You're missing MakeMaker. |
| 13:40 | vfernandes | jcamins i've solve it :):) finally |
| 13:41 | Culiforge | jcamins: is that the extutils-makemaker.noarch? |
| 13:41 | chris_n | jcamins: have a look at bug 7902 |
| 13:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7902 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Needs Signoff , Adding Function to Check for Existence of Tables |
| 13:43 | Culiforge | jcamins: says it's there.. unless there's another makemaker I need? |
| 13:43 | jcamins | Culiforge: that's the one I was thinking of. |
| 13:44 | vfernandes | it was the DBD::mysql perl package... |
| 13:44 | jcamins | chris_n: brilliant! |
| 13:44 | vfernandes | the version was 3.0... i've upgraded to 4.0 and works fine |
| 13:44 | chris_n | sign-off and maybe paul_p will push it into 3.8 |
| 13:45 | it makes no serious changes and gets rid of errors (not) | |
| 13:45 | * chris_n | goes off to sign-off on 6701 |
| 13:45 | jcamins | Culiforge: I'm sorry, you need Module::Install. |
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| 13:45 | jcamins | I got confused about which one was needed. |
| 13:45 | MakeMaker is automatic, Module::Install is not. | |
| 13:45 | http://lists.katipo.co.nz/publ[…]March/023259.html | |
| 13:46 | Culiforge | jcamins: cool cool.. just found it myself, looking in the makefile script |
| 13:54 | asaurat | did someone created a new basket recently on a master koha ? :p I can't do it anymore, dunno if there's a new bug or if I broke my DB (can happen =)) |
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| 13:57 | chris_n | dpavlin_: bug 6701 signed off |
| 13:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6701 normal, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Signed Off , language on timeout system preference is wrong |
| 13:58 | dpavlin_ | chris_n++ |
| 13:58 | * chris_n | actually feels a bit useful now ;-) |
| 14:07 | chris_n | jcamins++ |
| 14:08 | paul_p around? | |
| 14:08 | @later tell paul_p any chance we can slip bug 7902 into 3.8? | |
| 14:08 | huginn | chris_n: The operation succeeded. |
| 14:09 | * chris_n | hands jcamins a chocolate icecream sandwich |
| 14:09 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 14:09 | chris_n++ | |
| 14:18 | slef | has anybody here... seen my old friend bug 6267? |
| 14:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6267 trivial, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , custom http user-agent in check-url.pl (fix for books.google.com 401 error) |
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| 14:36 | jcamins | Does anyone know of any reason why Koha doesn't use the popularity index anymore? |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | because there's no way to automatically populate the field in the record? |
| 14:36 | at least, that was my impression. | |
| 14:36 | kf | well... there would be ways... but we don't do it? |
| 14:37 | matts | hey kf, just to let you know, i implemented your "less-confusing" way for BZ7412 :) |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | well, yea, "no way" meaning "there is no existent code to do it right now" |
| 14:37 | jcamins | So, "because GRS-1 sucks" is the relevant answer here, too. |
| 14:37 | :) | |
| 14:37 | Just checking. | |
| 14:37 | It seems to me that it would be really useful. | |
| 14:37 | kf | yay :) |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | if you are inclined to fix it I'd test it for you :P |
| 14:38 | jcamins | wizzyrea: we're waiting on gmcharlt's DOM indexing. :) |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 14:40 | jcamins | I mean, it's not a completely simple fix, but it's not too bad. |
| 14:40 | chris_n | anybody looked at chrome's "Audit" of various koha pages? |
| 14:41 | jcamins | Whoah. Remove 1339 unused CSS rules. |
| 14:41 | * chris_n | notes that it suggests that 2594 css rules are loaded but not used by the opac page |
| 14:41 | chris_n | snap |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | not sure what you are referring to |
| 14:41 | chris_n | among other performance suggestions |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea: in chrome | |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | but where :p |
| 14:41 | chris_n | right-click and select "inspect element" |
| 14:41 | :-) | |
| 14:41 | then you'll see an "audit" button | |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | oh, ha, you mean the "audits" tab |
| 14:42 | derp | |
| 14:42 | chris_n | go ahead.. |
| 14:42 | push it | |
| 14:42 | * wizzyrea | has morning blindness |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | some of that is because of opacusercss |
| 14:42 | * chris_n | wonders if implementing those suggestions would noticeably improve performance |
| 14:43 | wizzyrea | and opacuserjs |
| 14:43 | wahanui | rumour has it opacuserjs is a syspref |
| 14:43 | oleonard | Chrome only knows what is on that particular page. It doesn't know what CSS rules are used on other pages |
| 14:43 | jcamins | wizzyrea: most of what we're not using is opac.css. |
| 14:43 | I wish there were a way to crawl the entire site, and see whether any CSS rules were not used *at all*. | |
| 14:43 | chris_n | oleonard: so does it make sense to break things up? |
| 14:43 | or is that a nightmare | |
| 14:43 | oleonard | Probably not, since loading the CSS once and caching it is probably faster |
| 14:44 | It would probably be better to consolidate the CSS even more so that we're not loading so many different ones on a single page | |
| 14:45 | wizzyrea | that "optimize the order of styles and scripts" is almost certainly caused by those sysprefs though |
| 14:45 | oleonard | That one we should file a bug for |
| 14:46 | * chris_n | had to find something to do while waiting for items to be separated from bibs |
| 14:47 | jcamins | Hmmm... it should be pretty easy to move CSS and JS to a separate domain, I think. |
| 14:48 | oleonard | jcamins: Why? |
| 14:49 | jcamins | oleonard: that's one of the things Chrome says we should do. |
| 14:49 | * chris_n | files a bug |
| 14:49 | jcamins | I'm reflecting that would be pretty easy if it's worthwhile. |
| 14:51 | chris_n | oleonard: I hope bug 7906 makes some sense :-P |
| 14:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Optimize the order of styles and scripts |
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| 14:56 | chris_n | chrome's network tab is insightful as well |
| 14:57 | jcamins | Any idea what data:text/css is? |
| 14:59 | chris_n | ? |
| 15:00 | where are you seeing that? | |
| 15:00 | jcamins | chris_n: it's being loaded by the OPAC? |
| 15:00 | *. | |
| 15:00 | In the network tab. | |
| 15:00 | chris_n | style sheets? |
| 15:01 | jcamins | <link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" href="data:text/css,"> |
| 15:01 | chris_n | ahh |
| 15:01 | not sure | |
| 15:01 | jcamins | I'm not sure where it's coming from, either. |
| 15:02 | oleonard | What page? I don't see it |
| 15:02 | jcamins | Main OPAC page. |
| 15:03 | oleonard | Do you have something in OPACUserCSS? |
| 15:04 | I still don't see it | |
| 15:04 | reiveune1 | bye |
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| 15:05 | jcamins | Weird... I found the line right before, and the line right after it in doc-head-close.inc. |
| 15:05 | chris_n | bye |
| 15:05 | jcamins | They're consecutive. |
| 15:06 | And the line doesn't show up in the source. Just in the inspector. | |
| 15:07 | Oh, something to do with javascript. | |
| 15:08 | chris_n | to enable xslt in opac I should just have to enter 'default' for OPACXSLT*Display, right? |
| 15:09 | * chris_n | feels like he's in the dark ages being back on 3.2 |
| 15:09 | oleonard | Mammoth OPAC patch for Bug 2780 submitted. |
| 15:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | oh wow no lie, that is mammoth |
| 15:13 | oleonard | And I'm sure I've missed things |
| 15:15 | chris_n | nice |
| 15:15 | kf | oleonard: it will still be a looooo tmore consistent than we have ever been before :) |
| 15:15 | oh | |
| 15:15 | and translators are going to hate you :P | |
| 15:16 | oleonard | Oh well :) |
| 15:16 | kf | first ... later they will like it :) |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | are we qa'ing these by reading the patches + making sure they apply? |
| 15:17 | curious how others did it | |
| 15:17 | kf | hm |
| 15:18 | should we have a general bug t clean the logs? | |
| 15:18 | there are lots and lots and lots of entries inmy logs everytime I look | |
| 15:18 | I think we activated warnings... code was ok... and then we added new thigns that made it complain again | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | wizzyrea: I think it would be too difficult to try to view each page. |
| 15:18 | chris_n | kf: I think there may be a bug for that |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | there ought to be a cron to archive and truncate actionitems |
| 15:18 | chris_n | trouble is, I don't remember which |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | actionlogs |
| 15:19 | kf | mentioning it... *hint* in hope someone goes and fixes some of those |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | . sheesh. Actionitems |
| 15:19 | * chris_n | hands wizzyrea a new keyboard |
| 15:19 | * wizzyrea | has succumbed to the buzzword mentality SAVE ME |
| 15:19 | jcamins | kf: aren't you talking about the Apache log? |
| 15:19 | kf | koha-error-logs |
| 15:19 | chris_n | oohh, rounded corners |
| 15:19 | oleonard++ | |
| 15:19 | kf | and the opac one... but I hardly go there.. mostly looking at the intranet log |
| 15:19 | * wizzyrea | ahems |
| 15:19 | kf | and it's crowded |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 15:20 | chris_n fast! | |
| 15:20 | wizzyrea | lol :) |
| 15:20 | j/k | |
| 15:20 | well kinda | |
| 15:20 | depends on which rounded corners >.> | |
| 15:20 | * wizzyrea | would roundify lots of stuff. |
| 15:21 | * chris_n | thinks his librarians will be lost after the upgrade :-) |
| 15:21 | kf | chris_n: they will love it :) |
| 15:21 | chris_n: we upgraded all our librraies from 3.2.2 to 3.6.3 very recently | |
| 15:21 | and they like it a lot :) | |
| 15:21 | chris_n | I can only imagine |
| 15:22 | bugs are crawling out of 3.2.x like crazy around here | |
| 15:22 | which have been fixed | |
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| 15:24 | chris_n | so which xslt stylesheet is the "default"? |
| 15:27 | kf | the one in your language folder |
| 15:27 | prog/en/xslt/... | |
| 15:27 | :) | |
| 15:28 | hm more precise perhaps the one that comes with Koha - because you could add your own into that folder and give the patch now :) which is pretty cool | |
| 15:28 | chris_n | well, there were [sic] more than one ;-) |
| 15:29 | but I figured it out | |
| 15:29 | kf | oh ok |
| 15:29 | * chris_n | needs more caffine |
| 15:29 | * kf | should go home :) |
| 15:30 | * chris_n | works on integrating a "reader" into his koha installation |
| 15:33 | alex_a | bye ! |
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| 15:44 | chris_n | wow, are references to *.tmpl files still used? |
| 15:44 | * chris_n | eyeballs line 32 in opac-main.pl |
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| 15:45 | jcamins | chris_n: they're translated to .tt in C4. |
| 15:45 | chris_n | why not just fix it all? |
| 15:45 | seems asking for problems | |
| 15:46 | so when I write new pages, I have to observe that syntax? | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | chris_n: new pages should use .tt. |
| 15:47 | chris_n | we need to fix the old ones imho |
| 15:47 | half-baked things are asking for trouble | |
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| 16:10 | slef | @quote add <chris_n> half-baked things are asking for trouble |
| 16:10 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. Quote #197 added. |
| 16:10 | slef | @quote random |
| 16:10 | huginn | slef: Quote #79: "<robin> drivers make windows crash, therefore windows makes drivers crash." (added by gmcharlt at 01:53 AM, June 24, 2010) |
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| 16:16 | julian_m | /ping |
| 16:16 | kf | bye all and happy easter :) |
| 16:16 | uwe | Hello, i got koha installed now; and on the web i can open the page in the browser but it gets me to System Maintenance page. im not sure what i did wrong, the documentation was a bit scattered and i might have done something wrong ... |
| 16:16 | slef | bye kf you slacker :) |
| 16:17 | kf | ? |
| 16:17 | slef | uwe: log into the intranet interface |
| 16:17 | kf | slacker? |
| 16:17 | slef | kf: oh just that I'll be here at least one day of the next 4 |
| 16:17 | uwe | im using the IP; im not sure what you mean |
| 16:17 | kf | kf won't but cait will be too ;) |
| 16:18 | oleonard | uwe: You're seeing the public interface, the OPAC. You need to navigate to the staff client to run the web installer |
| 16:18 | slef | uwe: stick :8080 on the end, probably |
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| 16:24 | slef | @query logging |
| 16:24 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2394 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , canreservefromotherbranches preference not working |
| 16:24 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2821 minor, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Auth.pm gets too much information when authenticating staff user | |
| 16:24 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5371 major, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Back-button in OPAC shows previous user's details, after LOGOUT | |
| 16:24 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3296 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , replace sessionlog with Perl4Log implementation | |
| 16:24 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Add 'delete reserve' to modification logging | |
| 16:37 | libsysguy | @quote random |
| 16:37 | huginn | libsysguy: Quote #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if it was written in Ada it would have exception handling." (added by wizzyrea at 09:51 PM, June 28, 2011) |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | @quote random |
| 16:38 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #63: "<jwagner> But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!" (added by jdavidb at 01:50 PM, March 01, 2010) |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | lol! |
| 16:38 | that's a great one | |
| 16:44 | oleonard | Thanks for the signoff wizzyrea |
| 16:51 | chris_n | lol |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | yw |
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| 17:24 | slef | damn I think I've broken my dev install |
| 17:25 | it says "No physical items for this record" when there are two items attached | |
| 17:27 | * slef | throws the database on the floor in disgust |
| 17:33 | sjeffery | You are thinking of it the wrong way...you simply found a new bug:) |
| 17:38 | jcamins_away | slef: there was an updatedatabase issue. |
| 17:39 | slef: check your version. It probably says 30799 instead of 30700. | |
| 17:39 | Change it to 30700, go through updatedatabase, and it will resume working. | |
| 17:39 | wahanui | jcamins_away: that doesn't look right |
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| 17:39 | slef | now with a clean database, I can't add any rules http://intranet.plantain.obscu[…]in/smart-rules.pl in the first table. I click Add and they don't show up. |
| 17:40 | jcamins_away | slef: that's a new one. |
| 17:40 | slef | Koha version: 3.07.00.044 |
| 17:40 | let me retry this with master and make really sure I'm latest master | |
| 17:42 | Koha version: 3.07.00.044 | |
| 17:43 | same problem in smart-rules.pl | |
| 17:44 | does it work for anyone else on current master? | |
| 17:44 | jcamins_away | Sounds like a bug. |
| 17:44 | slef | sure, but bug in koha or my setup |
| 17:44 | ? | |
| 17:44 | jcamins_away | I don't know, and I'm not at home anymore. |
| 17:45 | oleonard | Hmm... I'm not seeing items either... |
| 17:45 | slef | this smart-rules thing is with a clean database and all dataset options in the webinstaller ticket |
| 17:46 | ticked | |
| 17:46 | [Thu Apr 5 18:43:30 2012] smart-rules.pl: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'lengthunit' in 'field list' at /home/coop/koha/unstable/src/admin/smart-rules.pl line 132., referer: http://intranet.plantain.obscu[…]in/smart-rules.pl | |
| 17:46 | so where should lengthunit have come from? | |
| 17:46 | jcamins_away | Well, that sounds kind of broken. |
| 17:47 | I think that's the follow-up patch to hourly that hasn't been pushed yet? | |
| 17:47 | slef | @query hourly |
| 17:47 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6432 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Changes to C4::Circulation to support Hourly Circulation |
| 17:47 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6438 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Changes to smart rules interface to support hourly/minutes loan times as well as daily | |
| 17:47 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3758 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, NEW , Automatic Exchange Rates | |
| 17:47 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7899 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tdavis, NEW , Remove C4::Dates from C4::Circulation | |
| 17:47 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans | |
| 17:47 | slef | 5549? |
| 17:48 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 17:48 | The one set to Needs Signoff. | |
| 17:48 | slef | looking now |
| 17:48 | jcamins_away | I could be mistaken, but I thought there was a follow-up to the follow-up which added the unit to smart rules. |
| 17:48 | @query fine in days | |
| 17:49 | huginn | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6891 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , LDIF interoperability - a proposal |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4906 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Problem with grace period calculation and fine intervals >1 | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6873 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Incremental fine system | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6775 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, shinoy.m, REOPENED , Allow reason to be specified when debarring | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3896 minor, P3, ---, chris, ASSIGNED , Notices: Cant specify if a notice is available as a digest or in advance in the web interface | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away | @query units |
| 17:49 | huginn | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5181 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , Add js to convert units when units are changed on label or card template form |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5176 normal, P5 - low, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , SIPServer Incorrectly Requires Login over Socket | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6335 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, colin.campbell, Needs Signoff , Branch not set consistently in all SIP transactions | |
| 17:49 | jcamins_away: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5668 enhancement, P3, ---, mtj, Passed QA , Star ratings in the opac | |
| 17:49 | slef | @query lengthunit |
| 17:49 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 17:50 | chris_n | interesting; it looks like TT comments out embedded php |
| 17:50 | when rendering | |
| 17:50 | jcamins_away | chris_n: why are you embedding PHP? |
| 17:50 | chris_n: isn't the idea of embedding PHP that you don't use a templating engine? | |
| 17:51 | chris_n | because the IA reader is written in php and python (a horrible combination to be sure) |
| 17:51 | slef | I can see lengthunit in ./installer/data/mysql/updatedatabase.pl:5022 and ./installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/hourlyloans.sql:1 but does updatedatabase.pl get called on a clean installation? |
| 17:51 | jcamins_away | slef: no. It should be in kohastructure.sql. |
| 17:51 | chris_n | jcamins_away: and I'm trying to get away without having to write a perl interface for it |
| 17:51 | slef | jcamins_away: let me git blame to see what needs a follow-up |
| 17:52 | 5549 again | |
| 17:52 | commit 8cea8e5cc05075dc391194248d31a54586389601 | |
| 17:53 | jcamins_away | chris_n: shouldn't the viewer be embedded via AJAX? |
| 17:53 | So you click the "view ebook" link, and it loads the PHP/Python-based viewer in a lightbox? | |
| 17:54 | chris_n | that's one possibility |
| 17:55 | jcamins_away | Extra work? Why would I want to do that? |
| 17:56 | chris_n | exactly |
| 17:56 | jcamins_away | chris_n: it seems to me that just AJAXing the link into existence would be less work than real embedding. |
| 17:57 | slef | c966aaf bug 5549: change to kohastructure.sql missing from commit |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 17:57 | jcamins_away | slef: did you add it to updatedatabase.pl again as well? |
| 17:57 | slef | jcamins_away: oh no. |
| 17:58 | jcamins_away | slef: you probably should, to fix all the installations that were done between when hourly was committed, and when the follow-up gets pushed. |
| 17:59 | slef: were you doing something with hierarchical authorities recently? | |
| 18:06 | slef | jcamins_away: will do. |
| 18:06 | jcamins_away: I don't remember. I think I was looking at hierarchical organisations more recently | |
| 18:10 | jcamins_away | Can anyone think of any situation where a link between two *established* authorities might not be bidirection? |
| 18:11 | slef | Attached bug 5549 change-to-kohastructuresql-missing-from-c.patch |
| 18:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
| 18:12 | slef | jcamins_away: do you mean the same in both directions, or just that there is an inverse link? |
| 18:12 | jcamins_away | I mean where there would not be an inverse link. |
| 18:13 | slef | jcamins_away: what about when an authority references another earlier authority, but the referenced authority doesn't recognise the referencer? |
| 18:13 | jcamins_away | If "Siberians" is a narrower term pointed to from "Cats" then "Cats" should be the broader term for "Siberians". |
| 18:14 | slef | so say BlogAuth says that blog is a narrower term of TypeAuth's Book, but TypeAuth never mentions BlogAuth? |
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| 18:14 | jcamins_away | That's the problem I'm trying to solve. |
| 18:14 | slef | so only if you are going across authority sources, I think I mean |
| 18:14 | If both authority records are from the same source, they should be internally consistent AFAICT | |
| 18:15 | jcamins_away | If your authority file only stores narrower terms, but does it consistently, there's no reason broader terms couldn't be derived. |
| 18:15 | slef | Yes but they would need deriving. |
| 18:16 | jcamins_away | Right. That's a pretty big development. |
| 18:16 | slef | OH YOU POS MYSQL |
| 18:16 | how does mysql not accept ""s yet? | |
| 18:16 | * slef | runs around with a pretty big fire axe |
| 18:16 | slef | wahanui: mysql docs? |
| 18:16 | wahanui | slef: i don't know |
| 18:16 | slef | wahanui: mysql doc? |
| 18:16 | wahanui | no idea, slef |
| 18:16 | slef | wahanui: mysql? |
| 18:16 | wahanui | i guess mysql is currently limited to 100MB of RAM. |
| 18:17 | slef | wahanui: mysql docs is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/ |
| 18:17 | wahanui | OK, slef. |
| 18:17 | * slef | fixes that patch he just wrote |
| 18:18 | slef | # ANSI_QUOTES Treat “"” as an identifier quote character (like the “`” quote character) and not as a string quote character. You can still use “`” to quote identifiers with this mode enabled. With ANSI_QUOTES enabled, you cannot use double quotation marks to quote literal strings, because it is interpreted as an identifier. |
| 18:19 | sodding rubbish database this | |
| 18:20 | jcamins_away | Why do we need to quote column names at all? |
| 18:21 | slef | because if they become a reserved word in a future version of mysql, then it'll break |
| 18:21 | or if they're currently a reserved word | |
| 18:21 | and there are some pretty bizarre reserved words in there | |
| 18:21 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 18:21 | slef | I've had that happen before. |
| 18:23 | jcamins_away | So in other words, just removing backticks as recommended (as I understand it) by Postgres enthusiasts is a bad idea? |
| 18:23 | slef | yep |
| 18:24 | ANSI says to use " but mysql only recognises those optionally (see above) and kohastructure.sql contains ""d literals like "0" too | |
| 18:24 | oleonard | db fight! Go! |
| 18:24 | slef | nah, it's more a compatibility fight |
| 18:24 | there is no compatible option here | |
| 18:24 | right, long-overdue coffee time here. smart-rules.pl works for me again now | |
| 18:25 | jcamins_away | So, use backticks, and change all the double quotes to single quotes and all the backquotes to double quotes at a future time. |
| 18:25 | slef | but this means redoing this week's deployments. QA needs help. |
| 18:25 | jcamins_away | Where backquote=backtick |
| 18:25 | slef | jcamins_away: yeah, that's probably the correct next move. |
| 18:25 | * jcamins_away | nominates someone who cares to do that. |
| 18:26 | slef | jcamins_away: mbalmer? ;) |
| 18:26 | jcamins_away: do you think we'd get far expecting all users to switch to ANSI_QUOTES mode on their mysql servers though? | |
| 18:26 | jcamins_away | slef: he seems like a good choice. |
| 18:27 | * chris_n | gets out the popcorn and soda to watch the fight with oleonard |
| 18:27 | jcamins_away | slef: why do you need to? Can't you do SET ANSI_QUOTES=1 at the beginning of kohastructure.sql? |
| 18:27 | slef | jcamins_away: won't that break postgresql if it ever loads kohastructure.sql? |
| 18:28 | really it sucks that it's a global or session option, not a database one | |
| 18:28 | I thought it was SET sql_mode = 'ANSI'; anyway. | |
| 18:28 | right, even-longer-overdue coffee time here. | |
| 18:29 | jcamins_away | slef: no idea. I don't use Postgres. |
| 18:29 | You could use the MySQL specific comment-command-thingies. | |
| 18:29 | chris_n: is it kettlecorn, by any chance? | |
| 18:29 | slef: easy enough to set it on the session, one presumes. | |
| 18:30 | lol | |
| 18:30 | chris_n | jcamins_away: its virtual pop-corn, so whatever you like ;-) |
| 18:30 | popcorn, even | |
| 18:30 | jcamins_away | chris_n: mmm. Kettlecorn. |
| 18:30 | wizzyrea | wait who's fighting? |
| 18:31 | * wizzyrea | looks around confused |
| 18:31 | chris_n | wizzyrea: its a db fight |
| 18:31 | wizzyrea | ohhh |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | There's a kettlecorn shop at Southstreet Seaport. |
| 18:31 | I've never been there, but I had a class with the owner, and she brought kettlecorn to share. | |
| 18:31 | It was delicious. | |
| 18:31 | chris_n | now I'm craving kettlecorn |
| 18:31 | * jcamins_away | too. |
| 18:32 | chris_n | wizzyrea: and since no one ever wins those, there'll be lots of popcorn and sodas to consume |
| 18:32 | * wizzyrea | gets out the sour brite worms |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: you don't want to share our kettlecorn? |
| 18:33 | * wizzyrea | prefers sour brite worms for spectator food |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
| 18:34 | chris_n | are those the gummy variety? |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | yes, with the sour sugar on the outside |
| 18:34 | chris_n | pass the worms please |
| 18:34 | * wizzyrea | passes the worms to chris_n |
| 18:35 | chris_n | ever served them on dirt cake? |
| 18:35 | wizzyrea | no, but that would be awesome |
| 18:35 | spud would flip. | |
| 18:35 | chris_n | yeah, quite impressive and garners a lot of comments |
| 18:35 | * jcamins_away | isn't sure he's ever had sour brite worms. |
| 18:35 | chris_n | they're fantastic |
| 18:35 | wizzyrea | do you like sour things? |
| 18:35 | they really are. | |
| 18:36 | jcamins_away | I do indeed. |
| 18:36 | wizzyrea | then you would love them. |
| 18:36 | chris_n | when the find their way into our house, the place looks like a hen-house you just dropped a batch of bugs into |
| 18:36 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 18:36 | * chris_n | briefly wonders if chickens would be good at handling software bugs |
| 18:37 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
| 18:39 | jcamins_away | Wait, is tomorrow a holiday? |
| 18:39 | Someone said something about that. | |
| 18:39 | wizzyrea | in nz I think it is |
| 18:39 | well, today | |
| 18:40 | mbalmer | yes, yes, to much MySQLism in Koha. But we have time and we are patient. |
| 18:44 | chris_n | hmm.... PHP::Interpreter |
| 18:45 | oleonard | mbalmer: slef is trying to figure out is how to properly quote column names to ensure that future change in reserved words doesn't cause problems |
| 18:46 | mbalmer | no one can predict the future. |
| 18:46 | oleonard | Exactly the point. |
| 18:59 | mbalmer | oleanard, seen my email about english title capitalization? |
| 18:59 | I think in <h1></h1> your changes are not correct. | |
| 19:00 | English has title rules, you seem to ignore them. | |
| 19:01 | oleonard | mbalmer: You can see my response to a similar question on Bug 2780 |
| 19:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Capitalize strings consistently |
| 19:01 | jcamins_away | mbalmer: also, don't forget that Koha is intended for libraries. |
| 19:01 | oleonard | In short: I think a simpler rule is better |
| 19:02 | jcamins_away | (and in libraries one only capitalizes the first word and proper names) |
| 19:03 | mbalmer | well, if it is a conscious decision, all fine. (Though I tend to disagree) |
| 19:04 | jcamins_away | You can always use a translation if you don't like the wording. I think most libraries do that, actually. |
| 19:04 | NZ thinks that color has a 'u', I think "cart" is a dumb name, etc. | |
| 19:05 | mbalmer | the proplem in not the wording, but the capitalization of titles, which is now wrong. |
| 19:05 | jcamins_away | mbalmer: right, so use a translation to change it. |
| 19:05 | mbalmer | ?? |
| 19:05 | jcamins_away | Easy peasy. :) |
| 19:06 | mbalmer | You mean the main language should be some dialect of english that is incorrect? That sounds a bit strange to me. |
| 19:06 | jcamins_away | mbalmer: I mean I think it is correct, but if you don't like it, you are free to change it to match how you want it to look. |
| 19:07 | mbalmer | well, it is not correct. |
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| 19:09 | francharb | 0/ all |
| 19:09 | mbalmer | at least we are consistent now. |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | logs? |
| 19:10 | wahanui | it has been said that logs is http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 19:10 | wizzyrea | ah |
| 19:12 | mbalmer | Sentence case they call it. Ok, I agree. |
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| 20:09 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:50 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 20:57 | francharb | bye |
| 21:11 | talljoy | well something made people run for the door. did someone yell 'fire'? |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | fire? |
| 21:12 | fire! | |
| 21:13 | libsysguy | no they yelled "Search.pm is broken" |
| 21:13 | wizzyrea | lulz. |
| 21:13 | libsysguy | even sekjal and jacamins_away would run from that one |
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| 21:23 | talljoy | heh |
| 21:23 | i perhaps thought the grammar police where out and everyone scattered. | |
| 21:23 | RAYED!!! | |
| 21:23 | oh no... | |
| 21:23 | RAYD!!! | |
| 21:23 | no... | |
| 21:23 | RAID. | |
| 21:24 | there we go. | |
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| 22:39 | slef | wahanui: Search.pm? |
| 22:39 | wahanui | it has been said that Search.pm is complicated and has been the source of much contention in the wake of KohaCon with BibLibre rewriting it for Solr/Lucene instead of Zebra support. |
| 22:40 | libsysguy | anybody have any experience with hyper-v? |
| 22:40 | slef | wahanui: C4::Search |
| 22:40 | wahanui | somebody said C4::Search was calling C4::XSLT |
| 22:40 | slef | libsysguy: probably someone does. |
| 22:40 | libsysguy | I can't get the time to configure correctly on my linux boxes |
| 22:40 | i have to set it to UTC because windows keeps trying to set it at boot for the linux bios | |
| 22:41 | and its causing...problems | |
| 22:41 | slef | oh this is an old chestnut, not specific to hyper-v I think |
| 22:42 | Windows likes the hardware clock on local time, everything else likes it on UTC | |
| 22:42 | libsysguy | yeah…ugh |
| 22:47 | bag | libsysguy: we had one experience with hyper-v and then never used it again |
| 22:47 | actually had a hell of time trying to get into it | |
| 22:47 | so we blew it up | |
| 22:47 | libsysguy | ugh…I have to use it... |
| 22:47 | the school gets to use ALL windows products free | |
| 22:48 | so its not very fiscally responsible to use vmware | |
| 22:48 | bag | well that's you're problem right there ;) |
| 22:48 | libsysguy | yeah I know…did you know I am the ONLY friggin person on campus that knows how to use linux |
| 22:48 | its very lonely | |
| 22:48 | bag | heh - well there are groups for you… like #koha :) |
| 22:49 | libsysguy | part of the reason im leaving lol |
| 22:49 | bag | leaving #koha? |
| 22:49 | nooooooo | |
| 22:49 | libsysguy | and yes…that is a big reason I hang out with you guys |
| 22:49 | oh no | |
| 22:49 | i could never leave you guys | |
| 22:49 | bag | I know /me being :P |
| 22:49 | libsysguy | you know…unless somebody offered me loads of cash |
| 22:49 | then I might consider it :p | |
| 22:49 | bag | take the cash and develop on koha ;) |
| 22:50 | libsysguy | haha exactly…take the cash to eat and then work on koha myself :p |
| 23:06 | slef | Changes submitted for bug 6890 |
| 23:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6890 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, ASSIGNED , Add 'delete reserve' to modification logging |
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