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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:13 | mtj | obligatory friday doggy vs. kitty pics -> http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-st[…]gs/four-legs-good :) |
| 00:17 | libsysguy | anybody know how to checkout a single file in git from a local branch? |
| 00:30 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:30 | rangi | wow |
| 00:30 | i have no idea what that email is about | |
| 00:41 | libsysguy | is there something I have to do with git bz to be able to attach bugs? |
| 00:41 | it keeps failing | |
| 00:42 | rangi | it has a short timeout |
| 00:42 | you have to be speedy | |
| 00:42 | libsysguy | oh lol |
| 00:42 | ok ill try and hit yes in under a second lol | |
| 00:42 | rangi | :) |
| 00:43 | the rest of it works apply etc ? | |
| 00:43 | libsysguy | damn…I don't think i can hit it any faster |
| 00:43 | yeah applies work | |
| 00:43 | rangi | hmm |
| 00:43 | libsysguy | i get an html page returned |
| 00:43 | and a status 200 message | |
| 00:43 | rangi | oh hmm |
| 00:43 | wats the html page say? | |
| 00:44 | libsysguy | We were unable to store the file you uploaded because of incomplete information |
| 00:44 | in the form you just submitted. Because we are unable to retain the file between | |
| 00:44 | form submissions, you must re-attach the file in addition to completing the | |
| 00:44 | remaining missing information above. | |
| 00:44 | but im not really sure whats above | |
| 00:44 | it looks like its all hidden fields | |
| 00:44 | rangi | ahh yeah that looks like some weird timeout thingy |
| 00:44 | libsysguy | damn |
| 00:45 | rangi | old fashioned way eh |
| 00:45 | git-format-patch | |
| 00:46 | libsysguy | yeah I guess thats the way its going to be today |
| 00:46 | libsysguy, the 23 year old, old fashioned guy | |
| 00:46 | rangi | heh |
| 00:46 | mtj | for me, the timeout is around 3-5 secs |
| 00:46 | libsysguy | fitting i guess since i still refuse to use guis on a server |
| 00:47 | hmm | |
| 00:47 | rangi | http://findingheroes.co.nz/201[…]r-than-you-think/ |
| 00:47 | mtj | libsysguy, thats not old-fashioned... that just smart :) |
| 00:48 | libsysguy | heh thanks mtj |
| 00:49 | mtj | rangi++ :) |
| 01:02 | libsysguy | rangi im almost embarrassed to ask this, but when I made those changes for hourly circ I did it in the branch that I did the instant checkin work. I was able to generate a patch for the hourly circ to work but when I tried to add my work for instant checkin it says that there are no changes. That work didn't go in the patch that i generated…do you know what I might have done wrong |
| 01:03 | rangi | hmm you didnt git stash it or something? |
| 01:03 | mtj | rangi: do you think the updatedatabase.pl script dying with DEBUG=1 is a feature, or bug ? :) |
| 01:04 | libsysguy | heh |
| 01:04 | rangi | feature |
| 01:04 | libsysguy | ugh yes…rangi++ |
| 01:04 | rangi | since we explcityly tell it to die mtj |
| 01:04 | mtj | i wonder if i should log it as a bug, and submit a patch sing eval{} , to 'fix' it ? |
| 01:04 | libsysguy | forgot I did that in the excitement of fixing hourly…damn it |
| 01:04 | rangi | hell no |
| 01:05 | its a handy feature for finding actual errors | |
| 01:05 | mtj | rangi: ok :) |
| 01:05 | rangi | the bug would be running debug mode in production :) |
| 01:05 | mtj | yeah... you are right |
| 01:07 | the fix would be for update code to check if foreign-keys, tables , column, sysprefs , etc... actually exist - before attempting to create them? | |
| 01:08 | ... and display a message either way | |
| 01:08 | rangi | yeah that would be the best fix |
| 01:09 | mtj | those red warning! type errors during upgrade, still freak most people out |
| 01:10 | and its still scary trying to guess what update warnings are harmless or fatal, etc (for the average person) | |
| 01:10 | rangi | *nod* |
| 01:10 | libsysguy | @later tell oleonard are you working on rebasing bug 5079? |
| 01:10 | huginn | libsysguy: The operation succeeded. |
| 01:10 | rangi | checking first, before trying to add a column etc |
| 01:10 | would be good | |
| 01:11 | mtj | yea, perhaps even some general update subs() to do those boring tasks |
| 01:11 | rangi | *nod* |
| 01:11 | mtj | would be a satisfiying little project :) |
| 01:12 | rangi | using dbh->table_info |
| 01:12 | mtj | check_table(), check_col(), check_syspref() etc... |
| 01:12 | rangi | and column_info |
| 01:12 | you could do it database independently | |
| 01:13 | http://search.cpan.org/~timb/D[…]DBI.pm#table_info | |
| 01:13 | something like that | |
| 01:13 | http://search.cpan.org/~timb/D[…]#foreign_key_info | |
| 01:13 | etc | |
| 01:14 | subs to wrap around those in the updater might be the way to go | |
| 01:14 | mtj | oui, très élégant |
| 01:15 | ok, thanks for the advice :) | |
| 01:15 | rangi | no worries |
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| 02:30 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 02:30 | hello my hearties | |
| 02:33 | later my hearies | |
| 02:33 | crap | |
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| 04:42 | * kmkale | rangi seems to be having "Happy ... Days" Good for him :) |
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| 04:58 | Amit_Gupta | heya kmkale |
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| 05:33 | cait | hi #koha |
| 05:37 | bag | heya Amit_Gupta |
| 05:37 | yo cait | |
| 05:37 | cait | hi bag |
| 06:05 | mtj | random perlcritic Q.... |
| 06:05 | does anyone know that this is all aboot? | |
| 06:05 | Subroutine prototypes used at line 314, column 1. See page 194 of PBP. (Severity: 5) | |
| 06:06 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:06 | mtj | i guess a sub-prototype is like this... |
| 06:06 | sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { | |
| 06:06 | so, if thats bad m'kay.... whats the fix for it? | |
| 06:07 | changing the ($$$$;$) to () , stops perlcritic bitching (thats good) | |
| 06:08 | but it also give a compilation-error :/ | |
| 06:08 | cait | hm |
| 06:08 | I think perhaps it's in the book | |
| 06:08 | but I don't have that :( | |
| 06:09 | mtj | yep, page 194 :p |
| 06:10 | oooh, i got it ;) | |
| 06:10 | this is bad.... | |
| 06:11 | sub output_html_with_http_headers ($$$;$) { | |
| 06:11 | this is good... | |
| 06:11 | sub output_html_with_http_headers { | |
| 06:11 | see, no prototypes used.. :) | |
| 06:12 | cait | this is beyond my programming skills still |
| 06:12 | I am still reading modern perl :) | |
| 06:20 | mtj | theres a bit of info about the net, on the topic |
| 06:21 | http://stackoverflow.com/quest[…]on-prototypes-bad | |
| 06:21 | http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=861966 | |
| 06:22 | http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=406231 | |
| 06:22 | ha, the last link is from grant.m at catalyst,nz ;) | |
| 06:23 | "I recently had cause to resurrect my sermon against inappropriate use of Perl prototypes at a Perl Mongers meeting. I thought it might be of interest to some here too." | |
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| 06:28 | mtj | its nice to see grant also prefers this type of syntax... |
| 06:28 | sub border_style { | |
| 06:28 | my($width, $style, $colour) = @_; | |
| 06:28 | to this type... | |
| 06:28 | sub border_style ($$$) { | |
| 06:30 | cait | :) |
| 06:31 | mtj | this next one is my pet HATE.... |
| 06:31 | sub foo() { | |
| 06:31 | my $x = shift; | |
| 06:31 | my $y = shift; | |
| 06:31 | my $z = shift; | |
| 06:32 | rather than just... | |
| 06:32 | sub foo() { | |
| 06:32 | my ($x, $y, $z) = @_; | |
| 06:34 | cait | I am still very much at the beginning with perl |
| 06:34 | but the second looks better to me | |
| 06:36 | mtj | oops, that should really be... |
| 06:36 | 'sub foo { | |
| 06:36 | with no () | |
| 06:37 | "you don't want the '()' after the name of the sub - it should be 'sub foo {...'. With the '()' you are saying that foo accepts no arguments, which is not what you want in this case " | |
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| 06:38 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | cait | hi reiveune |
| 06:38 | and bye all - bbiab | |
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| 06:39 | mtj | yep. i'm off too... ciao #koha |
| 06:41 | matts | hi #koha |
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| 06:50 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 06:50 | Brooke | kiiiaaora ;) |
| 06:51 | magnuse | yay! |
| 06:52 | mbalmer | re |
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| 06:57 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
| 06:57 | Brooke | hey sophie |
| 06:57 | magnuse | hiya sophie_m |
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| 07:02 | alex_a | papa !! |
| 07:02 | * Brooke | hugs francharb |
| 07:03 | francharb | francharb, hugs Brooke |
| 07:03 | ;) | |
| 07:03 | hello #koha | |
| 07:03 | Brooke | drinking without me is a sin, you know :P |
| 07:03 | francharb | ;) |
| 07:04 | Joubu | hello |
| 07:04 | * Brooke | pauses to consider how the last statement manages to stack up against the life decisions that result at looking at a record for Verus Sacerdos. |
| 07:04 | francharb | it was more like testing drinks than _drinking drinking! ;) |
| 07:04 | Brooke | oh okay |
| 07:04 | francharb | it was fun the same way |
| 07:04 | Brooke | as long as you were bugtesting then it's fine |
| 07:05 | francharb | sure! |
| 07:05 | ;) | |
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| 07:08 | kf | back |
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| 07:19 | gaetan_B | hello! |
| 07:19 | kf | god morgen magnuse :) |
| 07:19 | hi gaetan_B :) | |
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| 07:21 | kf | hi macphisto |
| 07:21 | macphisto | hi everybody! |
| 07:21 | Brooke | hey there |
| 07:22 | kf | hi Brooke |
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| 08:10 | slef | @query guarantor |
| 08:10 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5422 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Separate state field for patron's adresses |
| 08:10 | slef | hi all ;) |
| 08:11 | kf | hi slef |
| 08:11 | Brooke | hi |
| 08:11 | wahanui | hello, Brooke |
| 08:11 | slef | kf: thanks for the email |
| 08:11 | @query Organization | |
| 08:11 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2699 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Organization for Reports |
| 08:11 | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6698 trivial, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Detail page for organisations should show only valid fields | |
| 08:11 | slef | Does anyone else use||want organisations to guarantee other organisations? |
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| 08:12 | Brooke | did that get asked on list a while back? |
| 08:12 | slef | it looks like it might be a UI-only change |
| 08:12 | juan_sieira | good morning #koha |
| 08:12 | slef | Brooke: oooh I've no memory, will search |
| 08:12 | * Brooke | has a deja vu kind of feeling about that |
| 08:12 | slef | hi juan_sieira |
| 08:12 | juan_sieira | hi magnuse |
| 08:12 | Brooke | it might also have been in the Patron Reports sidebar, or I can totally be imagining it... |
| 08:13 | magnuse | hola juan_sieira |
| 08:13 | juan_sieira | magnuse: i'm changing thouse files now, but I think I'll add a "update" on the bottom of those sql files |
| 08:14 | slef | Brooke: I'm getting mainly hits on obnoxious footer disclaimers when I try to search the list for "Organization" and "guarantee" |
| 08:14 | juan_sieira | magnuse: instead of changing all of the lines on all of them¡ |
| 08:14 | magnuse | juan_sieira: |
| 08:15 | that might be a good idea | |
| 08:15 | slef | Brooke: can you try self-hypnosis to extract any more possible search terms? ;-) |
| 08:16 | magnuse | juan_sieira: i'm using the sql files exported from the Web UI, so the maxlength column gets included there, and you don't have to worry about the normarc files |
| 08:16 | i'll take the blame if anyone has a problem with that :-) | |
| 08:16 | juan_sieira | ok |
| 08:16 | thanks magnus | |
| 08:16 | i'll change the other files, and the updatedatabase | |
| 08:17 | magnuse: when I changed updatedatabase, in sysprefs there is only the option between marc21|unimarc, that is because I didn't include normarc into it | |
| 08:18 | magnuse | the options for marcflavour? |
| 08:18 | normarc should be there... | |
| 08:19 | juan_sieira | yes.. I think, but now I'll include it |
| 08:21 | kf | slef: I think Brooke is thinking about staff users should be able to have childs |
| 08:21 | magnuse | yay! :-) |
| 08:22 | Brooke | no I'm thinking that what slef is talking about |
| 08:22 | kf | ok :) |
| 08:22 | and now... thinking about it | |
| 08:22 | you are right | |
| 08:22 | multilevel organisational patrons | |
| 08:22 | Brooke | is having summat like the Boys and Girls club being able to vouch for the Vincent de Paul or vice versa |
| 08:22 | kf | there was somethin |
| 08:24 | slef | Found 0 matching posts for multilevel organisational patrons in Koha |
| 08:25 | kf | I think it was on the mailing list perhaps |
| 08:25 | Brooke | meh |
| 08:25 | ask it again if all you're finding is vague memories anyway | |
| 08:25 | plus | |
| 08:25 | it was long enough ago that stuff prolly has changed | |
| 08:28 | kf | slef: http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]tn-td4999474.html |
| 08:29 | hm that was only display | |
| 08:29 | using othernames for the patron organisaton | |
| 08:29 | magnuse | bug 6697 |
| 08:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6697 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Empty Organisation(s) field for organisational patrons |
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| 08:29 | * magnuse | dunno |
| 08:29 | kmkale | Namaste #koha |
| 08:29 | Brooke | Namaskar |
| 08:31 | slef | kf: thank you! biab! |
| 08:31 | magnuse: thanks too! | |
| 08:33 | kmkale | namaste magnuse slef Brooke |
| 08:33 | magnuse | namaskar kmkale |
| 08:33 | hdl | hi juan_sieira |
| 08:34 | juan_sieira | hi hdl |
| 08:34 | hdl | hi all |
| 08:34 | juan_sieira | this morning I'll return to Zebra works¡ |
| 08:34 | kf | :) |
| 08:34 | juan_sieira | but I have to tell you about something in facets, in a moment |
| 08:34 | I'm pushing a path now | |
| 08:35 | kmkale | Namaste kf hdl |
| 08:35 | Brooke | oooh |
| 08:35 | I <3 facets | |
| 08:35 | juan_sieira | s/path/patch/ |
| 08:35 | kf | hi kmkale :) |
| 08:35 | hdl | Namaste kmkale and Brooke |
| 08:35 | Brooke | how goes the flying frenchman? |
| 08:37 | kmkale | what does <3 mean? |
| 08:37 | magnuse | it's a heart! :-) |
| 08:37 | juan_sieira | it's a kiss?? |
| 08:37 | magnuse | rotate it 90 degrees anti-clockwise... |
| 08:38 | juan_sieira | :) |
| 08:39 | Brooke | magnuse is right :D |
| 08:39 | juan_sieira | imagination has no frontiers |
| 08:39 | magnuse | juan_sieira++ |
| 08:40 | asaurat | <3 looks like ice cream to me |
| 08:41 | magnuse | yum! |
| 08:41 | kf | yum! |
| 08:42 | Brooke | http://www.s-luca.co.uk/ |
| 08:42 | just sayin | |
| 08:42 | juan_sieira | hdl: is there paul? |
| 08:43 | hdl | juan_sieira: paul has a headache. And should be there in a few hours. |
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| 08:43 | Brooke | juan, you've magical powers! |
| 08:43 | juan_sieira | magnuse: I submit a new bug to correct what you said to me. The only file I didn't change is the normarc file. This is in your hands |
| 08:44 | Brooke: ..... I know... | |
| 08:45 | magnuse | juan_sieira: cool, thanks |
| 08:46 | kmkale | ooh Brooke did you have icecreams when you were here? |
| 08:47 | Brooke | I had some kulfi, but it was kinda so so |
| 08:47 | paul_p | good morning world |
| 08:47 | Brooke | my bad, cause I didn't get off the beaten track nearly as often as I ought to have |
| 08:47 | morning paul | |
| 08:48 | I did have a mango vanilla pop at some point, but that was just prepackaged stuff. | |
| 08:49 | * Brooke | navigates cities by eateries. |
| 08:49 | kmkale | nah I should have taken you ppl to some really nice icecream shops |
| 08:49 | I remember telling Jo about the best being right opposit your hotel | |
| 08:50 | Brooke | that would have required us to stop oogling fabric long enough for you to do so. XD |
| 08:50 | kmkale | :_D |
| 08:50 | :-D | |
| 08:50 | namaste paul_p | |
| 08:55 | paul_p | spring arrived in MArseille (24°C today)... ice cream time coming ;-) |
| 08:56 | kmkale | :) |
| 08:56 | kf | spring time here too - not that warm, but nice |
| 08:56 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:56 | huginn | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 10.4°C (10:54 AM CEST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:56 | kmkale | @weather mumbai |
| 08:57 | huginn | kmkale: The current temperature in Mumbai, India is 31.0°C (2:10 PM IST on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Smoke. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 26.0°C. Pressure: 29.83 in 1010 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:57 | kmkale | it will go up to 40°C with humidity crossing 90 :( |
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| 09:03 | juan_sieira | does anybody got a laptop with a hybrid hd here? |
| 09:04 | hdl | hybrid hd ? solid state and other ? |
| 09:05 | juan_sieira | its a hd with a little ssd inside, 500gb normal + 16gb ssd |
| 09:05 | like the samsung np530u4b | |
| 09:06 | hdl | lucky you :D |
| 09:07 | juan_sieira | hdl: I'm hunting for the perfect notebook |
| 09:08 | hdl: this samsung it's a good choice, so It has a hybrid disk, and I don't know if I could used with linux. I know about people that cannot change the operating system in it ... | |
| 09:10 | * kmkale | likes http://www.dell.com/in/p/xps-13-l321x/pd |
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| 09:22 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2d5af3e3f3e19ea22> / Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]80e0ff1b438a8d9f6> / Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]/?p=koha.git;a=co |
| 09:22 | magnuse | feels like spring here to, but it's gonna snow tomorrow... |
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| 09:28 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 09:30 | in the last weeks i've struggling with some encoding problems that only in some Koha pages: opac-MARCDetail, intranet MARCDetail, addbooks, additems and when using XSLT | |
| 09:30 | http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=92089 | |
| 09:31 | this page is a example of what is happening | |
| 09:31 | the accent character are all mess up... but in the database are correct | |
| 09:32 | database is in UTF8, apache is also in UFT8 as the locale | |
| 09:32 | kf | vfernandes: hm, those are pulled from the database |
| 09:32 | I think they are broken in the database - I have seen that before when I was not careful with my sql for the bibliographic frameworks | |
| 09:33 | vfernandes: try changing the description for one of those broken fields in administration > bibliographic marc frameworks | |
| 09:33 | and see if that fixes it | |
| 09:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #690 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 09:33 | vfernandes | i will change the field 101 |
| 09:34 | kf | vfernandes: nice layout! |
| 09:35 | vfernandes | kf: thanks :) but changing didn't solve |
| 09:35 | kf | hmm |
| 09:36 | you changed both, opac and lib description? | |
| 09:36 | for the field 101? | |
| 09:36 | reentering it from your keyboard? | |
| 09:36 | vfernandes | yes, for the same description but reentered from the keyboard |
| 09:36 | kf | using memcache? |
| 09:37 | vfernandes | no |
| 09:37 | kf | hm |
| 09:37 | vfernandes | the problem seems to append in three tables: tags, branches and itemtypes |
| 09:37 | kf | and it appears correctly when you open it in the editor in administration? |
| 09:37 | vfernandes | *seems to appear |
| 09:37 | yes in the editor works fine | |
| 09:38 | kf | sorry, I am a bit out of ideas |
| 09:38 | I have not seen that before | |
| 09:39 | vfernandes | thanks anyway kf |
| 09:39 | i'm going now for a meeting | |
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| 10:16 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #690: UNSTABLE in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/690/ |
| 10:16 | * mjr: Bug 7729 : svc/bib: support appending ?items=1 to the URL to fetch or modify items | |
| 10:16 | * stephane.delaune: Bug 4032 XSLT systempreference takes a path to file rather than YesNo | |
| 10:16 | * paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: DBRev number | |
| 10:16 | * paul.poulain: Bug 4032 follow-up: removing ` in syspref | |
| 10:16 | * dpavlin: Bug 7821 - {langcode} will be replaced with current interface language | |
| 10:16 | * paul.poulain: bug 7821 follow-up: escaping {} in regexp | |
| 10:16 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7729 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , svc API should allow modification of items |
| 10:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4032 enhancement, P3, ---, stephane.delaune, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference should take a path to file rather than YesNo | |
| 10:16 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support | |
| 10:26 | New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7387] Add Template::Toolkit plugin to allow caching of includes <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7387> | |
| 10:26 | slef | baa |
| 10:28 | * paul_p | head to lunch |
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| 10:49 | Oak | kia ora my hearties |
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| 11:01 | mib_pwxs2g | hallo guys, just installed koha, and it was working well. on rebooting the computer then this error came up:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. what could be the problem? my koha is running on ubuntu 11.04 |
| 11:01 | juan_sieira | your mysql server is stopped |
| 11:02 | mib_pwxs2g | how can i make it run? |
| 11:02 | juan_sieira | just exec this command: /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 11:03 | did you install mysql server??, if not do: sudo apt-get install mysql-server | |
| 11:03 | mib_pwxs2g | will that not affect the koha files? |
| 11:03 | juan_sieira | no |
| 11:04 | mib_pwxs2g | then does this mean that i will have to create another koha database? |
| 11:05 | slef | hopefully not! |
| 11:05 | if it asks you to, pause and let people suggest other things to check! | |
| 11:06 | juan_sieira | did you start mysql server? |
| 11:10 | mib_pwxs2g | well, it gave this as the result: rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8) utility, eg service mysql start. |
| 11:10 | juan_sieira | ok, exec: service mysql start |
| 11:10 | with sudo, it you're not root | |
| 11:12 | mib_pwxs2g | it gives the following as the results: start: job is already running: mysql |
| 11:12 | but it is still giving the initial error on the browser. | |
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| 11:15 | juan_sieira | you can check the file koha-conf.xml, at the bottom, host user ... parameter of your mysql server |
| 11:16 | this file it's in your install folder / etc / koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:17 | mib_pwxs2g | ok let me check. |
| 11:18 | what should i check on the koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:20 | juan_sieira | hostname and port |
| 11:20 | should be localhost and 3306 | |
| 11:34 | mib_pwxs2g | i cant see these values. its just a bunch of zebra and other stuff |
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| 11:39 | slef | juan_sieira is wrong |
| 11:39 | not 3306 anyway | |
| 11:39 | let me open my koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:40 | oh no, he's right | |
| 11:40 | it just ignores 3306 | |
| 11:40 | it's right near the end | |
| 11:40 | can you see it mib_pwxs2g ? | |
| 11:40 | <config> | |
| 11:40 | <db_scheme>mysql</db_scheme> | |
| 11:40 | <database>... | |
| 11:41 | try running: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-THERE -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE | |
| 11:41 | and see if you can log in | |
| 11:44 | mib_pwxs2g | am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? |
| 11:44 | am getting this error when i try to access my koha on the browser: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can i solve it? | |
| 11:44 | slef | mib_pwxs2g: fine. Ignore me. |
| 11:44 | mib_pwxs2g: please don't repeat yourself. | |
| 11:45 | mib_pwxs2g | am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? |
| 11:45 | am getting this error on mysql installation.:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. how can isolve it?? | |
| 11:45 | Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13) at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Context.pm line 692. | |
| 11:45 | hallo | |
| 11:45 | sorry, how can i solve it? | |
| 11:46 | slef | it means koha cannot login to mysql |
| 11:46 | see if you can login with: mysql -u USERNAME-GIVEN-IN-KOHA_CONF -p DATABASE-GIVEN-IN-THERE | |
| 11:46 | using the details from koha-conf.xml | |
| 11:47 | it is almost always a problem with how one set up mysql, rather than koha | |
| 11:47 | mib_pwxs2g | ok let me see if this will solve. |
| 11:49 | slef | mib_pwxs2g: it will not solve, but it will give more information. |
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| 11:51 | mib_pwxs2g | this happened after running chown -R mysql and some path command |
| 11:53 | slef | mib_pwxs2g: were you told that here? |
| 11:53 | wahanui: logs? | |
| 11:53 | wahanui | logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
| 11:54 | slef | wizzyrea: I think you have an email for me. Sorry for not checking the settings enough! |
| 11:54 | @seen wizzyrea | |
| 11:54 | huginn | slef: wizzyrea was last seen in #koha 15 hours, 51 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <wizzyrea> hmm. MaxReserves? |
| 11:57 | slef | mib_pwxs2g: sorry but I'm going to be away for an hour now. Maybe someone else can help you, if you can say what that chown command was. |
| 11:58 | kf | slef: problems with navigation on kc.org? |
| 11:58 | slef | kf: what problems? |
| 11:58 | kf | the navigation bar looks a bit wrong |
| 11:58 | slef | which one? |
| 11:58 | wahanui | well, which one is it |
| 11:59 | kf | and the longer license text does not work for me - becaue I can't read all of it |
| 11:59 | the subnavigation for kohacon12 | |
| 11:59 | slef | looking |
| 11:59 | kf: looks fine for me. Can you screenshot? | |
| 12:00 | kf | yep sec |
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| 12:02 | slef | http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/call-papers/ is posted, please get submitting if it works for you! |
| 12:02 | kf: bbi60, will try to fix then, plus post some announcements | |
| 12:06 | kf: wow, freaky on the top nav - do you get something similar in Support? | |
| 12:06 | kf | oh I do |
| 12:06 | weird | |
| 12:07 | slef | theme or browser bug :( |
| 12:07 | which browser? | |
| 12:07 | kf | firefox 9.0.1 |
| 12:07 | I think it used to work | |
| 12:07 | I have been using documentation and support before without noticing it | |
| 12:07 | slef | I'm in 3. I'll check in 8 later but I'm not in a place I can upgrade to 9. |
| 12:08 | Also we could look for a new release of GP2 | |
| 12:08 | kf | I will tell wizzyrea later |
| 12:08 | slef | the theme |
| 12:08 | kf | ah ok |
| 12:08 | slef | it's in Appearance: Themes in the wp-admin |
| 12:08 | if you beat me to it | |
| 12:08 | also the form thingy, losing half a letter doesn't worry me. Should it? | |
| 12:08 | I could just drop the "- or change this" | |
| 12:09 | but I wanted to put in a helpful default | |
| 12:09 | actually it should be GPLv2+ like Koha | |
| 12:09 | let me fix that | |
| 12:10 | fixed | |
| 12:10 | biab | |
| 12:13 | kf | slef: I wondered if the text continued |
| 12:13 | so got a little confused | |
| 12:13 | slef | kf: I shortened it a little |
| 12:13 | kf | if we could make it fit in the box would be a bit nicer |
| 12:13 | cool | |
| 12:13 | slef | kf: not sure if enough |
| 12:13 | kf | I think you can also define more hints about the fields |
| 12:13 | on hover | |
| 12:13 | slef | kf: your text is big |
| 12:13 | ah is that what goes after the last |? | |
| 12:14 | I'll do that if people start cocking it up | |
| 12:14 | kf | if you click on the edit symbol it opens a popup - but yes, I think so |
| 12:14 | my text is big? | |
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| 12:15 | slef | yeah, it's nowhere near the right-edge of the box for me... about 4em away |
| 12:16 | kf | oh |
| 12:16 | slef | Windows? |
| 12:16 | wahanui | Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. |
| 12:16 | kf | not sure, perhaps I increased the script size in the browser settings somewhere |
| 12:16 | slef | wahanui: I LOVE YOU |
| 12:16 | wahanui | slef: i'm not following you... |
| 12:16 | kf | lol |
| 12:16 | slef | wahanui: die! |
| 12:16 | wahanui | errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! |
| 12:17 | kf | quite torturing poor wahanui |
| 12:17 | wahanui botsnack antidote | |
| 12:17 | wahanui | :) |
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| 12:29 | Oak | can I increase the size of book cover images in details page... |
| 12:30 | kf | you could use css I think...but they might get blurry |
| 12:31 | hi oleonard :) | |
| 12:31 | oleonard | Hi |
| 12:31 | wahanui | what's up, oleonard |
| 12:33 | Oak | hmm |
| 12:33 | oleonard | libsysguy around? |
| 12:33 | libsysguy | yeah |
| 12:33 | whats up oleonard | |
| 12:33 | oleonard | I'm not working on bug 5079, why do you ask? |
| 12:33 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5079 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Make display of shelving location and call number in XSLT results controlled by sysprefs |
| 12:34 | libsysguy | it just said it was assigned to you and for some reason I thought that had changed from a few days ago |
| 12:34 | kf | libsysguy: there is a history link on every bug (I just discovered that recently) that's cool for checking if someone changed something |
| 12:35 | oleonard | Oh, I'm just the default assignee for OPAC bugs |
| 12:35 | libsysguy | I was about to rebase my work on it last night but didn't want to start something you were working on |
| 12:35 | and ahhh ok | |
| 12:35 | kf++ i didn't know this either | |
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| 12:36 | oleonard | Oh, and you're the one that assigned it to me libsysguy :P |
| 12:36 | libsysguy | LOL |
| 12:36 | jcamins_away | Hehe. Wishful thinking? :) |
| 12:36 | libsysguy | oleonard do I need to take it back? |
| 12:36 | oleonard | If you're working on it, yes |
| 12:37 | libsysguy | well after I saw where nengard spotted it i got scared :p |
| 12:38 | nengard | ?? |
| 12:38 | i'm not scary :) | |
| 12:38 | libsysguy | I've seen you in training action |
| 12:38 | nengard is very scary :p | |
| 12:39 | nengard | LOL |
| 12:39 | I'm only scary if you don't want to learn | |
| 12:39 | then I beat the knowledge in to you :) | |
| 12:41 | libsysguy | @quote add I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
| 12:41 | huginn | libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:41 | libsysguy | dang it I know im using that wrong |
| 12:42 | Oak | getting this: |
| 12:42 | Software error: | |
| 12:42 | Can't use string ("00800nam a22002537a 450000100050") as an ARRAY ref while "strict refs" in use at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Search.pm line 1493. | |
| 12:42 | For help, please send mail to the webmaster ([no address given]), giving this error message and the time and date of the error. | |
| 12:42 | getting this when search for "Marketing" on OPAC, then on page 2, click on this book with link: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koh[…]l?biblionumber=24 | |
| 12:42 | nengard | libsysguy i never learned how to add quotes ... |
| 12:42 | druthb knows how though | |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
| 12:43 | huginn | libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 12:43 | nengard | looks like you're not registered |
| 12:43 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 12:46 | its sad because that was a good one | |
| 12:46 | identify libsysguy | |
| 12:50 | info libsysguy | |
| 12:55 | oleonard | libsysguy: Not sure what you're trying to do, but IRC commands require a "/" before them |
| 12:55 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 12:56 | libsysguy | jw how to register with nickserv |
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| 13:05 | libsysguy | @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
| 13:05 | huginn | libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 13:05 | libsysguy | dang it…I am registered :'( |
| 13:05 | nengard | LOL |
| 13:06 | libsysguy | @quote add nengard I'm only scary if you don't want to learn...then I beat the knowledge in to you |
| 13:06 | huginn | libsysguy: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 13:06 | libsysguy | crap |
| 13:11 | kf | @later tell slef should we set an end date for paper submissions? so that we can start to put a program together? |
| 13:11 | huginn | kf: The operation succeeded. |
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| 13:15 | Oak | only this: http://10.16.18.71/cgi-bin/koh[…]l?biblionumber=24 is giving that error. other entries, 23, 25, 26, 27, 28, ... etc are working okay. what can be the reason?? |
| 13:16 | oleonard | Oak: Should we be able to follow that link? It times out for me |
| 13:17 | Oak | uh oh it local link... let me paste the error on pastebin |
| 13:18 | here oleonard :http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 | |
| 13:18 | http://pastebin.com/Rp2LFNL1 | |
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| 13:22 | slef | kf: I think we're close enough first come first served-if-passed-by-reviewers would work, don't you? |
| 13:23 | kf | slef: I think it would make people submit their talks a bit faster |
| 13:23 | slef: having a deadline helps | |
| 13:23 | we could always extend if there are not enough talks | |
| 13:23 | slef | kf: what would you say? 20 April? |
| 13:24 | but implore people to submit sooner | |
| 13:24 | it's an easy form | |
| 13:24 | we're not asking for full info | |
| 13:27 | Oak | any comment oleonard ? |
| 13:29 | hdl | gmcharlt: slef have you ever used FID_SORT_BIN in SIP ? |
| 13:31 | slef | hdl: I don't know that we have. |
| 13:33 | Oak | oleonard, anybody, is this what I think is the cause of my error: Mar 30 18:22:50 aridkoha smartd[1716]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors |
| 13:33 | oleonard | Sorry Oak, the error doesn't mean anything to me |
| 13:34 | Oak | what about this smartd line from syslog? |
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| 13:36 | hdl | it is all about the sorting engine |
| 13:36 | Oak | great. thanks guys. |
| 13:42 | slef | updated http://koha-community.org/kohacon12/visa-info/ to ask for hotel info and link to sources of it |
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| 13:49 | wizzyrea | Oak - that's probably bad sectors on your hard disk |
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| 14:04 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 14:06 | * magnuse | wanders off |
| 14:07 | kf | slef: 20th sounds fine for me |
| 14:08 | slef: I think most people postpone things like that ( I do) so having a deadline hopefully will help :) | |
| 14:09 | slef | kf: could you add it? I'm currently trying to get invitation letters into the air mail before Last Post |
| 14:10 | kf | I will do a little later |
| 14:10 | electricity will go out here in 50 min (some maintenance thing) | |
| 14:11 | slef | kf: ouch |
| 14:12 | oleonard | Electric and phone went out for some people here yesterday because someone cut the cables to sell for scrap |
| 14:12 | slef | oleonard: oh that keeps happening here |
| 14:12 | oleonard: near BR's place a couple of years ago, they tried to cut a live electic feed | |
| 14:12 | electric | |
| 14:13 | took them out for weeks | |
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| 14:13 | oleonard | Crazy. |
| 14:13 | slef | it's all due to what people will pay for scrap No Questions Asked |
| 14:14 | there's an inexplicable push to stop cash payments for scrap to stop it | |
| 14:14 | but what really would help is having to show ID to be paid cash | |
| 14:15 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
| 14:16 | slef | and properly note what came from whom |
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| 14:18 | slef | is gbenga on here? |
| 14:18 | wahanui: meetings? | |
| 14:18 | wahanui | i don't know, slef |
| 14:19 | slef | wahanui: IRC meetings? |
| 14:19 | wahanui | IRC meetings are how most things are decided, so definitely put it on the agenda for discussion |
| 14:19 | slef | http://meetings.koha-community.org/ |
| 14:21 | wahanui: logs | |
| 14:21 | wahanui | logs is, like, http://irc.koha-community.org/irclog/koha/ |
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| 14:42 | slef | adding deadline before kf does :) |
| 14:42 | kf | heh ok |
| 14:43 | bbl | |
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| 14:48 | slef | wizzyrea: the Events category checkbox is greyed out! |
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| 14:48 | wizzyrea | did you add an event? |
| 14:48 | scroll down until you see the + | |
| 14:49 | then add your dates | |
| 14:49 | slef | wizzyrea: no. |
| 14:49 | wizzyrea | it should auto add the event category |
| 14:49 | slef | wizzyrea: I'll do that. But maybe this is why there are few things in the events category? |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | possibly |
| 14:51 | slef | wow that's a bad UI |
| 14:51 | needs much better motor control than I have to select particular times | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | you can type them in |
| 14:51 | slef | click and drag to pick a number |
| 14:52 | oh that wasn't obvious :( | |
| 14:52 | usually when I try that it either ignores me or just opens a widget anyway | |
| 14:52 | so I give up and just use it now :( | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea: thanks for the help | |
| 14:52 | wizzyrea | sure :) |
| 14:53 | slef | now I must do more Real Work TM while I wait for the invitation letters to arrive |
| 14:53 | I have no printer any more. Have to send them out. | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | d'oh! |
| 14:54 | jcamins | slef: yeah, we don't have a printer, either. |
| 14:55 | * wizzyrea | has a printer, it's not currently hooked up though |
| 14:55 | jcamins | It committed suicide by explosion two days before we were due to move. |
| 14:55 | slef | wizzyrea: well, technically, mine's the same. |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | that would like, require furniture. |
| 14:55 | slef | wizzyrea: except mine is on the other side of England to me. |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | yikes! |
| 14:55 | slef | wizzyrea: the fun of relocation |
| 14:55 | jcamins | So in other words, everyone in this conversation other than me actually has a printer. :P |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | you're telling me :) |
| 14:55 | * wizzyrea | just moved too |
| 14:56 | * jcamins | too |
| 14:56 | * slef | not yet |
| 15:07 | Joubu | goodbye! |
| 15:08 | oleonard | Thanks for the photos paul_p ! |
| 15:14 | For those who haven't tested Bug 7781, see attachment 8720 | |
| 15:14 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7781 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Enhancements to the main page (first step) |
| 15:14 | 03Attachment http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]=8720&action=edit image/png, Screenshot showing updated interface, Bug-7781-staff-client-home-page.png | |
| 15:15 | oleonard | Thanks for the revised patch asaurat1 |
| 15:15 | jcamins | matts_away: around? |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | bbiab peeps |
| 15:17 | asaurat1 | oleonard: you're welcome :) |
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| 15:47 | oleonard | Uh oh, what's going on here: "Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/C4/XSLT.pm line 175." |
| 15:47 | clrh | bye |
| 15:48 | oleonard | Bye clrh |
| 15:52 | reiveune | bye |
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| 15:53 | wizzyrea | oleonard: denesting? |
| 15:54 | where did you see that | |
| 15:54 | oleonard | /cgi-bin/koha/virtualshelves/shelves.pl |
| 15:56 | git bisect blames Bug 7821 and commit f91bd36399b1ab46649482f80e0ff1b438a8d9f6 | |
| 15:56 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Pushed to Master , XSLT systempreference multi-language support |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I think I see why |
| 16:04 | hm, I think best to just report this on that bug | |
| 16:04 | or make a new one | |
| 16:05 | * oleonard | added a comment on the bug |
| 16:05 | oleonard | Man, accidentally trashing my testing VM has really ruined my week |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | :( |
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| 16:09 | jcamins | oleonard: but think of all the bugs you found that you wouldn't have otherwise? |
| 16:09 | *! | |
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| 16:11 | * oleonard | grumbles |
| 16:28 | * jcamins | recalls the need for etherpad.koha-community.org. |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | :/ etherpad didn't work so well |
| 16:29 | jcamins | And clrh just left for the day so I won't get access to the Google Doc paul_p mentioned until Monday. :( |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea: oh, well, we need *something*. | |
| 16:29 | paul_p: oh, are you still there? | |
| 16:29 | paul_p | jcamins i'm here ;-) |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Could you give me access to the Google Doc? Pretty please with sugar on top? :) |
| 16:29 | paul_p | isn't this doc freely ? /me check |
| 16:30 | * jcamins | couldn't access it. |
| 16:32 | paul_p | jcamins yikes... I made (small) mistake = everyone can READ it, but now, I can't edit it anymore |
| 16:32 | * slef | looks at chanserv |
| 16:32 | paul_p | jcamins => try again, should work |
| 16:32 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 16:32 | paul_p++ | |
| 16:33 | paul_p: I object to Data::SearchEngine::Zebra not using Data::SearchEngine::Results. | |
| 16:33 | I already told Juan. ;) | |
| 16:33 | He agreed with my objection. | |
| 16:34 | If Data::SearchEngine::Zebra extends Data::SearchEngine::Results, Koha can happily handle Data::SearchEngine::* the exact same way. | |
| 16:34 | This is a good thing. :) | |
| 16:36 | gmcharlt | paul_p: following up from yesterday, I think you had questions about 7818? |
| 16:37 | paul_p | gmcharlt i just sent a long mail to koha-devel, that includes 7818 |
| 16:37 | jcamins | gmcharlt: on that subject, did I report to you the issue with XML indexing? |
| 16:37 | paul_p | gmcharlt see "Solr / zebra / search in Koha 3.10 => starting a workgroup" |
| 16:37 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:38 | gmcharlt | paul_p: ok ,cool |
| 16:40 | paul_p | almost 7PM here. Time to leave ! bye #koha, see you on monday ! |
| 16:44 | oleonard | Bon weekend paul_p |
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| 16:48 | SJeffery | Why would foreign language characters not display properly (boxes) in the catalog (both the front and back ends), yet those same characters display perfectly in worldcat (IE8)? |
| 16:49 | jcamins | SJeffery: incorrect encoding on import. |
| 16:49 | Did you pull them in using Z39.50, or the batch import tool? | |
| 16:49 | SJeffery | Z39. OCLC is set to MARC21/USMARC and UTF-8 |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | the 4th question? |
| 16:49 | jcamins | My guess is that they're not *really* providing you with UTF-8. |
| 16:49 | Wait. | |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | the fourth question |
| 16:49 | wahanui | well, the fourth question is "Are we there yet?" |
| 16:49 | wizzyrea | ha |
| 16:49 | no. | |
| 16:49 | jcamins | Hold on. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | what version are you on? |
| 16:50 | jcamins | If you change the encoding on the catalog, does it display properly? |
| 16:50 | I mean, change the encoding on the web browser when looking at the catalog. | |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | also, is it correct in the database? |
| 16:50 | SJeffery | 3.05.00.002 |
| 16:50 | jcamins | o.O |
| 16:51 | I could've sworn you were on 3.6. | |
| 16:51 | wizzyrea | if you select * from biblio where biblionumber = a messed up record's biblionumber |
| 16:51 | SJeffery | What the...hold on |
| 16:51 | I should be on 3.6 | |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | there was a bug fixed recently for encoding problems in the OPAC when xslt was off and the catalog was indexed with -x |
| 16:52 | jcamins | Also, IE is a bear. |
| 16:52 | wizzyrea | data was ok in the db, but displayed improperly. |
| 16:52 | you know it will never display right if the data is wrong in the DB though. | |
| 16:53 | which is why I always check that. | |
| 16:53 | jcamins | wizzyrea: right, but SJeffery doesn't have database access easily. |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | sure he does |
| 16:53 | jcamins | At least, that's my recollection. |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | custom reports |
| 16:53 | francharb | \0/ |
| 16:53 | jcamins | ... you know, I never thought of that. |
| 16:53 | Brilliant! | |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 16:53 | wizzyrea | at least for looking, it works just fine :) |
| 16:54 | francharb | i'm trying to figure out how the accountlines table works |
| 16:54 | but i'm not sure of what I understood so far | |
| 16:54 | wizzyrea | the first question |
| 16:54 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 16:54 | jcamins | SJeffery: follow wizzyrea's suggestion. |
| 16:55 | SJeffery | ok, just tried changing the encoding in the browser, that does not fix it |
| 16:56 | oleonard | francharb: Can you be more specific? |
| 16:56 | francharb | what's the difference between accountlines.amount and accountlines.amoutoutstanding? Is amountoutstanding the amount left to pay? |
| 16:56 | 0/ | |
| 16:56 | oleonard, | |
| 16:56 | wahanui | somebody said oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? |
| 16:56 | francharb | how are you doing? |
| 16:56 | jcamins | lol |
| 16:57 | * wizzyrea | hates to do this |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | forget oleonard |
| 16:57 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard |
| 16:57 | jcamins | francharb: you are correct in your understanding. |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | as if we could ever forget him |
| 16:57 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it was oleonard*,* |
| 16:57 | oleonard, | |
| 16:57 | wahanui | i heard oleonard, was there a reason that all if the content in the opac isn't surrounded by the yui-main div? |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | forget oleonard, |
| 16:57 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot oleonard, |
| 16:57 | * oleonard | vanishes |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | nooooooooooooooo |
| 16:57 | jcamins | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. |
| 16:57 | oleonard? | |
| 16:57 | oleonard | ..and just when I was figuring everything out too |
| 16:57 | wahanui | oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. |
| 16:57 | wizzyrea | oleonard is Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:58 | francharb | ok jcamins |
| 16:58 | wahanui | well, jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | oleonard is also Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:58 | wahanui | okay, wizzyrea. |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | oleonard? |
| 16:58 | wahanui | oleonard is, like, still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
| 16:58 | wizzyrea | there we go. |
| 16:58 | francharb | actually, it's related to this script : |
| 16:58 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6858 | |
| 16:58 | huginn | 04Bug 6858: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Adds staticfines.pl for static fines processing |
| 16:59 | francharb | i've got a situation where MaxFin is set up at 10 |
| 16:59 | my patron has a 20 euros fines on his account | |
| 17:00 | so there are accountlines.amount = 20 and accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 | |
| 17:00 | jcamins | SJeffery: my bet is that OCLC is actually providing you with MARC-8 encoded data. |
| 17:00 | francharb | if I use the staticfines script which should give a 10 euro fine |
| 17:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea's query will tell you that, though. |
| 17:01 | francharb | since maxFine is set up at 10 |
| 17:01 | and my patron already has 20 euros fin | |
| 17:01 | accountlines.amountoutstanding is not updated, it's still accountlines.amountoutstanding=20 | |
| 17:01 | to me it's ok | |
| 17:01 | but accountlines.amount is uptdated | |
| 17:02 | and i get accountlines.amount=10 | |
| 17:02 | and i don"t understand why | |
| 17:02 | i guess it 's a bug | |
| 17:02 | jcamins | francharb: I think it adjusts the fine to be equal to the maximum fine allowed, which happens to be less than the current fine. |
| 17:02 | francharb: I'm not sure what it should do in that situation! | |
| 17:03 | francharb | don't you think, accountlines.amount and accountlines.amountoutstanding should have the some behaviour? |
| 17:04 | jcamins | francharb: yes, I would think so. |
| 17:04 | But I'm not sure if they should stay at 20 or go down to 10. | |
| 17:04 | francharb | because at the end, my patron has a 10 euros fine and 20 euro to pay... |
| 17:04 | jcamins | Certainly the fact that the numbers are different is a bug. |
| 17:04 | francharb | if the maxfine is set up at 10, but my patron, for any reason has a 20$ fine (lost item...) |
| 17:04 | it should stay at 20 | |
| 17:05 | i think | |
| 17:05 | jcamins | That makes sense to me. |
| 17:05 | francharb | i agree, amount and amountoutstanding should be the same in this case |
| 17:06 | i didn"t test the script on the master branch but on a specific branch for one of our client! i will retest it on the master branch! | |
| 17:07 | thanks jcamins! | |
| 17:34 | jcamins | @quote search attr |
| 17:34 | huginn | jcamins: No matching quotes were found. |
| 17:36 | francharb | see ya all |
| 17:36 | have a good week end | |
| 17:37 | jcamins | Fun fact... it would appear I was involved in a large percentage of the conversations involving "attr" in the Zebra sense. |
| 17:38 | Not all of them, but a surprising number. | |
| 17:48 | rangi | slef: about? |
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| 18:03 | rangi | 47 failures!! |
| 18:04 | jcamins | On jenkins? |
| 18:04 | rangi | yep |
| 18:04 | jcamins | How did that happen? |
| 18:04 | It just went stable. | |
| 18:04 | jenkins? | |
| 18:04 | wahanui | it has been said that jenkins is far easier to move |
| 18:05 | jcamins | Jenkins site? |
| 18:05 | rangi | Bareword "C4::Templates::_current_language" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /var/lib/jenkins/jobs/Koha_master/workspace/C4/XSLT.pm line 175. |
| 18:05 | jcamins | Ah. Yeah, that was just patched. |
| 18:05 | rangi | yeah but the tests cant have been run before being pushed |
| 18:05 | or they would all have failed | |
| 18:06 | all 47 of them | |
| 18:06 | jcamins | Right. |
| 18:06 | rangi | sheesh |
| 18:06 | jcamins | I'm confused why the use C4::Items (etc.) test fails. |
| 18:07 | What possible reason could there be for including C4::XSLT in C4::Items? | |
| 18:07 | rangi | 7821 |
| 18:07 | jcamins | bug 7821 |
| 18:07 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7821 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Passed QA , XSLT systempreference multi-language support |
| 18:07 | jcamins | Ah, yeah, that's the patch. |
| 18:07 | rangi | thats what broke it |
| 18:07 | wizzyrea | oy |
| 18:07 | jcamins | There's a fix attached now. |
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| 18:08 | rangi | yep, but why have unit tests if we dont use them? |
| 18:08 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:08 | jcamins | cait! I had a question for you. |
| 18:08 | I've forgotten what it was. | |
| 18:08 | Oh! | |
| 18:08 | 773s. | |
| 18:09 | What fields would you like displayed on search results? | |
| 18:09 | *subfields | |
| 18:09 | * wizzyrea | runs them before signoff with a git alias :P |
| 18:09 | * jcamins | too. |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | i suspect we may be the exceptions to the rule :/ |
| 18:10 | * rangi | has a git hook on commit |
| 18:10 | rangi | so when i do git commit --amend |
| 18:10 | jcamins | If I'm voted in as RMaint, I'll add a git hook on push. |
| 18:10 | wizzyrea | it runs em |
| 18:10 | cait | jcamins: hm, def the title and the pages |
| 18:11 | rangi | to sign off, it runs all the tests .. wont let me sign off if they fail |
| 18:11 | sure it takes some time, but have a coffee | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | cait: so far I've decided $a, $t, and $g are necessary. |
| 18:11 | rangi | stretch |
| 18:11 | something | |
| 18:11 | :) | |
| 18:11 | jcamins | Eat a sandwich. |
| 18:11 | cait | jcamins: that makes sense to me :) |
| 18:11 | jcamins | libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. |
| 18:11 | I think he only programs when hungry. | |
| 18:11 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | heh |
| 18:12 | wizzyrea | @quote add jcamins: libsysguy's test plans all involve sandwich-eating. I think he only programs when hungry. |
| 18:12 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #195 added. |
| 18:12 | libsysguy | or maybe I just REALLY like sandwiches |
| 18:12 | jcamins | Jonathan Sprout sang a song about that. |
| 18:13 | wizzyrea | liking sandwiches is cool too :P |
| 18:13 | jcamins | I think it was Jonathan Sprout. Maybe it was Peter Alsop. |
| 18:13 | Peter Alsop. | |
| 18:16 | libsysguy | wait…who is looking at my patches :p |
| 18:16 | * libsysguy | gets scared |
| 18:16 | wizzyrea | we like to watch. |
| 18:16 | libsysguy? | |
| 18:16 | wahanui | well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 18:17 | * wizzyrea | nods. |
| 18:17 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 18:29 | slef | rangi: no :) |
| 18:29 | rangi | slef: i think i submitted my paper twice |
| 18:29 | :) | |
| 18:30 | but if you confirm you got at least one of them | |
| 18:30 | ill start emailing lists | |
| 18:33 | slef | rangi: I got two |
| 18:33 | rangi: I was doubting my mailserver! | |
| 18:33 | * wizzyrea | is glad slef is receiving papers :) |
| 18:33 | slef | rangi: small error in the form I'll just go fix |
| 18:33 | cait | yay it works :) |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 18:34 | rangi | cool, ping me when you are happy with the form, and ill do the koha list(s) and then code4lib |
| 18:34 | slef | done |
| 18:34 | rangi | cool |
| 18:34 | cait | rangi++ |
| 18:34 | slef | *** Ping time to rangi is 00:00.02 |
| 18:34 | rangi | heh |
| 18:41 | cait | slef++ |
| 18:41 | rangi | email sent |
| 18:41 | if it reads ok, ill do the same to code4lib | |
| 18:45 | * jcamins | would submit a talk on analytics, but he won't be able to make it to Edinburgh. :( |
| 18:45 | jcamins | I could write one then make cait read it, if she's not planning on talking about analytics. |
| 18:46 | cait | :( |
| 18:46 | jcamins | It'd be almost like having me there. :) |
| 18:47 | * cait | wnats you |
| 18:47 | cait | not words she can't pronounce right |
| 18:47 | jcamins | And I'd prepare a slide deck with pictures of Myshkin. |
| 18:49 | bag | bug 7818 |
| 18:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 18:50 | cait | jcamins: myshkin... tempting |
| 18:50 | jcamins: I was thinking to talk about translations maybe | |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Good, so you can give my talk on analytics without it overlapping. :) |
| 18:51 | cait | lol |
| 18:52 | jcamins | 'S good. :) |
| 18:52 | slef: would you like me to submit a talk-by-proxy proposal? I know there's interest in analytics from a fair number of people. | |
| 18:55 | rangi | ok, that email read ok? should i hit some other mailing lists with it? |
| 18:55 | jcamins | And if cait isn't doing one on analytics, I don't think there are many others who would. |
| 18:56 | Looked good to me. | |
| 18:56 | rangi | cool |
| 18:58 | cait | jcamins: wouldn't it make more sense to ask a native speaker? |
| 18:59 | slef | jcamins: yes, but we may pause it until we get the internet access sorted, unless you mean someone presenting your slides? |
| 18:59 | jcamins | cait: okay. |
| 18:59 | slef: I meant someone presenting my slides. | |
| 18:59 | slef | rangi: a grue got me |
| 18:59 | cait | slef: internet! |
| 18:59 | we could make him appear by webcam | |
| 18:59 | jcamins | slef: cait doesn't want to do it, so I'll shanghai someone else to do it. |
| 18:59 | cait | or skype |
| 18:59 | and I can click to make the slides change :P | |
| 19:00 | rangi | ok code4lib done too |
| 19:00 | cait | I am still trying to get used to the idea to submit my own... talking about something complicated like analytics is scary |
| 19:00 | slef | cait: if we can navigate the nasty university internet access policies or persuade the co-operative mobile & broadband to sponsor us ;) |
| 19:00 | cait | oh |
| 19:01 | jcamins | slef: given that remote presentations never work, it seems much safer to just send a script to someone. |
| 19:01 | cait | slef: so not sorted out if we will have internet/wifi? |
| 19:01 | slef | jcamins: you could heckle by phone? |
| 19:01 | cait: not 100% :( | |
| 19:01 | jcamins | slef: lol |
| 19:01 | slef | cait: or at least, not as far as I know. |
| 19:01 | cait | ouch :( |
| 19:02 | slef | cait: email the volunteers list and ask mle, he's handlng the venue and it'd make a nice change from me hassling him ;) |
| 19:02 | jcamins | slef: I guess if there were a landline I could use Skype or the like to dial in. |
| 19:02 | slef | or let's hassle mle here by all saying his nick until he notices it :) |
| 19:02 | cait | mle mle mle |
| 19:03 | jcamins | However, my suggestion was that some intrepid soul -- like mle! -- should read the presentation for me, and I could answer questions via IRC, since someone will no doubt have a data plan. ;) |
| 19:03 | slef | jcamins: we'll have mobiles and mine has a headphone jack so... |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Heh. I think mle should read my talk. :) |
| 19:04 | Did I do a good job with highlighting mle? | |
| 19:13 | bag | http://www.usatoday.com/news/n[…]ackpot/53872762/1 |
| 19:13 | that's a bit mental | |
| 19:30 | chris_n | bad math that^^ |
| 19:31 | bag | I like the little chart on the top - 12,800 for the average household to earn that money ;) |
| 19:32 | * chris_n | will be on the look out for falling TVs |
| 19:32 | bag | whoops insert years into that statement |
| 19:33 | jcamins | How did they come up with the probability of getting killed by a falling TV? |
| 19:33 | bag | it must happen a lot ;) |
| 19:33 | chris_n | there's probably a stat for it somewhere |
| 19:33 | like the odds of being hit by space junk | |
| 19:33 | bag | darwin rules (of whatever that is) |
| 19:34 | oh wait darwin awards | |
| 19:34 | jcamins | chris_n: but what population do they sample to figure that out? |
| 19:34 | chris_n | heh... probably a greater chance of suddenly evolving wings than of winning... |
| 19:35 | jcamins: maybe heavy population centers like big cities with high-rise apartments? | |
| 19:36 | jcamins | chris_n: there are 309 million people in the US. If 9 out of 176 million people are killed by falling TVs every year, that'd be sixteen people a year in the US. |
| 19:37 | If the entire world, with a population of 6.79 million, that would mean that a whopping 347 people died from a TV falling on them last year. | |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | falling out of a balcony, or plasma tv's falling off of walls |
| 19:37 | billion* | |
| 19:38 | chris_n | right, so your odds of winning the lotto are much less |
| 19:38 | jcamins | Billion, yes. |
| 19:38 | * wizzyrea | could buy people getting killed by tv's falling off of walls |
| 19:38 | chris_n | and probably equally ridiculous :) |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | especially with some of the monstrous tv's available nowadays |
| 19:39 | jcamins | But my point is, it makes a huge difference whether the statistic is just based on Americans, or based on the entire world. |
| 19:39 | It could be that 300 people had TVs dropped on them in New Zealand, in which case an American is unlikely to be killed by a TV unless s/he visits NZ. | |
| 19:39 | * jcamins | sits back in his rocking chair and shouts at the youngsters to get off his lawn. |
| 19:39 | chris_n | without bothering with the math I'd say the odds of winning are less regardless of the population base you use for falling TVs |
| 19:40 | lol | |
| 19:40 | jcamins | chris_n: oh, I agree. |
| 19:40 | I just think it's an idiotic statistic to use. | |
| 19:40 | chris_n | well, that's the whole point I'd guess |
| 19:41 | * chris_n | likes playing the soda machine... the odds are better ;-) |
| 19:42 | jcamins | And you get a five cent deposit back, too. |
| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | imagines chris_n putting his quarters in... pushing the button... waiting impatiently to see if his prize will come out... and squeeing maniacally when his soda comes out. |
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| 19:43 | * wizzyrea | is going to treat soda machines like slot machines from now on. |
| 19:43 | jcamins | Oh, it's Friday. :) |
| 19:43 | chris_n | lol |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | that is, if I drank soda. |
| 19:43 | chris_n | coffee then? |
| 19:44 | * jcamins | wants tea. |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | hmm, tempting. we do have a keurig here, it's kind of the same thing. |
| 19:44 | aarkerio | yea!! youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8 |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | push the button... will coffee come out? It does! Yay! |
| 19:44 | jcamins | I started reading the New Book of Tea on the subway on the way in this morning. |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 19:44 | jcamins | There aren't any tea machines. |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | (to both) |
| 19:44 | no. one has to go slow with tea. | |
| 19:44 | slowly* | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | Maybe I should invent a tea machine. Choose which tea ceremony you prefer (Japanese, Persian, English, Turkish, etc.), and the device performs it perfectly every time. :) |
| 19:46 | aarkerio | hi! there is a report where can I see the items currently borrowed? |
| 19:46 | jcamins | sql reports library? |
| 19:46 | wahanui | i guess sql reports library is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 19:47 | jcamins | ^^ probably there's one there. |
| 19:48 | wizzyrea | jcamins: we call those "robots" |
| 19:48 | aarkerio | thanks! |
| 19:50 | chris_n | quite an interesting talk on lotto theory: http://www.goodbonusguide.com/[…]tery-tickets.html |
| 19:51 | oleonard | If Makefile.PL reports missing prerequisites, they should be added to ubuntu.packages, right? |
| 19:52 | chris_n | right |
| 19:52 | * chris_n | looks into getting a keurig now that wizzyrea has mentioned it |
| 19:52 | * jcamins | is pondering electric samovars. |
| 19:52 | chris_n | we recently got a device for making smores in the u-wave |
| 19:53 | * oleonard | thinks us devs could do better at updating those requirements |
| 19:53 | rangi | oleonard: and debian/control |
| 19:53 | wizzyrea | u-wave. have I mentioned how awesome you people are. |
| 19:53 | jcamins | chris_n: a plate? |
| 19:53 | rangi | for the packages |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | keurig machines are cool, except that they are terribly wasteful. And not very cost effective. |
| 19:54 | chris_n | jcamins: no, not that simple :) |
| 19:54 | * wizzyrea | just makes smores with mochi and nutella and calls it good. |
| 19:54 | chris_n | jcamins: something similar to this: http://www.amazon.com/Progress[…]res/dp/B001447LEE |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 19:55 | chris_n | but nothing beats a flame-kist marshmallow... |
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| 20:05 | bag | I guess they are saying if no one wins tonight - then the jackpot will be a billion |
| 20:08 | jcamins | bag: a shame that you'd have to spend $103million for the odds to even out. |
| 20:09 | (only bet when the jackpot is above $176mil, and buy one $1 ticket every time that happens until you've spent $103mil) | |
| 20:09 | bag | wanna loan me 103 million? |
| 20:09 | jcamins | bag: sorry, not today. |
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| 20:10 | jcamins | Also, it'd be a really long wait. |
| 20:11 | * jcamins | considers. Perhaps you don't just bet $1 each round. Perhaps you bet according to how high above $176mil the jackpot is. |
| 20:11 | jcamins | I bet there are people who actually understand this stuff. |
| 20:11 | bag | it's more fun to waste 4 quaters and dream ;) |
| 20:12 | oleonard | Okay, weekend time for me |
| 20:12 | Bye #koha | |
| 20:13 | wizzyrea | bye oleonard |
| 20:13 | jcamins | Bye. |
| 20:13 | He's definitely slowing down. | |
| 20:13 | Two people said goodbye. | |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 20:24 | * jcamins | decides to call it a day as well. |
| 20:24 | jcamins | Bye. |
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