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| 00:09 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 00:09 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 16.1°C (5:09 PM PDT on March 28, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1017 hPa (Falling). |
| 00:15 | Judit joined #koha | |
| 00:16 | Judit | good morning |
| 00:18 | i have some overdue items with fines and on my opac, on the 'my summery" tab, in the "Fines" column i have only a "No" | |
| 00:19 | should i have there the amount of the fine, or even a 'yes' would make more sense | |
| 00:19 | i havent seen a bug report on this, and i dont know if it is normal or not | |
| 00:19 | koha 3.6.4 | |
| 00:24 | eythian | Wasn't someone (nengard?) asking about that the other day? |
| 00:24 | rangi | yep |
| 00:27 | Judit | not only me so |
| 00:27 | kinda good | |
| 00:27 | is it a bug or intentional? | |
| 00:28 | or a syspref setting | |
| 00:31 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5688 | |
| 00:31 | huginn | 04Bug 5688: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , OPAC My Summary tab fines column doesn't display accruing fines |
| 00:31 | Judit | have it! |
| 00:43 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:46 | slef | am I being dim or does bug 7613 just never add items to the import? |
| 00:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib |
| 00:49 | rangi | havent tested it enough to know sorry slef |
| 00:50 | slef | I can't see what other url_params it acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough. |
| 00:50 | rangi | ill see if srdjan is about to jump on irc |
| 00:50 | slef | ta |
| 00:51 | papa joined #koha | |
| 00:51 | rangi | there we go :) |
| 00:51 | slef | beats BTS tennis |
| 00:51 | papa | eh? |
| 00:51 | slef | papa: I can't see what other url_params import_bib acts upon. I doubt C4::ImportBatch is reading the parameters directly somehow. I thought import_mode=direct would be enough. |
| 00:52 | papa | import_mode=direct is just saying process immediately |
| 00:53 | you can see the whole list in that other daemon script usage | |
| 00:53 | basically all drop-downs from the UI | |
| 00:54 | slef | how are they being passed anywhere outside import_bib? |
| 00:54 | Is GetWebserviceBatchId doing some magic with them? | |
| 00:56 | no I see, it's passed to AddImportBatch which does it | |
| 00:56 | papa | tes |
| 00:56 | yes even | |
| 00:57 | they are assigned to the import batch record | |
| 00:57 | I assume that should suffice, I must say that I stopped there | |
| 00:57 | slef | no testing? |
| 00:58 | * slef | runs |
| 00:58 | papa | tested up to there, and processed, but did not check the details. I was happy that it appeared on the UI as expected |
| 00:59 | like I did not change anything in the process afterwards | |
| 01:01 | slef | I'm getting # Items 0 all the time now |
| 01:01 | * slef | reverts and cleans all the imports and tries again |
| 01:02 | slef | I'm not convinced it's possible to add items from import_bib now. |
| 01:03 | rangi | before the patch even? |
| 01:05 | slef | before the patch, import_bib didn't exist |
| 01:05 | rangi | ah ok |
| 01:10 | ago43 joined #koha | |
| 01:14 | eythian | I like how someone made the effort of making the cardnumber a link - on the printed recepits. |
| 01:16 | papa | slef: so you can do that from UI? |
| 01:17 | slef | papa: actually, reverting the import_bib import and then importing it again from the UI loads the items. |
| 01:18 | papa: my current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher | |
| 01:18 | papa | ok, now you need to tell me what knobs did you turn on on the ui |
| 01:18 | slef | nothing |
| 01:18 | just clicked "Undo import into catalog" | |
| 01:19 | then "Import this batch into the catalog" | |
| 01:19 | and items appear | |
| 01:20 | Interestingly, the results screen after "Undo import into catalog" claims "Number of items deleted: 1" | |
| 01:20 | so I'm not sure what's going on here | |
| 01:21 | doesn't seem to be the matcher | |
| 01:21 | papa | that may be "Number of items we said we would delete, present or not" |
| 01:21 | slef | as I set matcher=ISBN this time and that's been recognised |
| 01:21 | it must be something import_bib does different to the web UI | |
| 01:22 | papa | Then I failed :) |
| 01:22 | slef | probably some default we don't know |
| 01:22 | papa | XML that you are using is the one attached to the bug? |
| 01:22 | slef | oneitem.xml yes |
| 01:22 | is it buggy? ;) | |
| 01:23 | I've others from clients but they're not FOSS | |
| 01:23 | papa | no idea, I had my own |
| 01:23 | slef | did that work? |
| 01:23 | papa | yes |
| 01:23 | slef | items and all? |
| 01:23 | papa | and had items |
| 01:23 | slef | which were imported? |
| 01:24 | papa | yes, with item_action=always or similar |
| 01:24 | slef | Let's play spot the difference! (Actually, I'll add a 942 to mine.) |
| 01:24 | always, not create_new? | |
| 01:24 | papa | let me check |
| 01:26 | slef | ah always_add |
| 01:26 | is what I was using | |
| 01:26 | papa | yes, that one |
| 01:26 | slef | now trying: curl -b svc.cookie -d '@oneitem.xml' -H 'Content-Type: text/plain' 'http://intranet/cgi-bin/koha/s[…]add&matcher=ISBN' |
| 01:27 | heh the 942 got through but items still stripped off | |
| 01:27 | rangi | do you have a 952 itemtype? |
| 01:27 | cos 942 is bib level | |
| 01:28 | slef | <subfield code="y">BK</subfield> |
| 01:28 | yeah | |
| 01:28 | rangi | hmm |
| 01:28 | barcode? | |
| 01:28 | wahanui | rumour has it barcode is in 852p |
| 01:28 | slef | I know. Mystifying. |
| 01:28 | yep | |
| 01:28 | rangi | wierd |
| 01:28 | slef | wahanui: forget barcode |
| 01:28 | wahanui | slef: I forgot barcode |
| 01:28 | slef | wahanui: 942? |
| 01:28 | wahanui | wish i knew, slef |
| 01:28 | * rangi | has to head out now for parent teacher meeting, good luck |
| 01:28 | papa | slef: can you please try it without mode=direct, and then process it from the UI |
| 01:29 | slef | rangi: thanks |
| 01:29 | papa: will do, but surely that's going to behave like the reverted ones and then import with items OK... or am I looking for something else? | |
| 01:30 | papa | no, just to confirm that |
| 01:30 | maybe I also did it that way | |
| 01:31 | slef | interesting... it says it is staged, but still # Items is 0 |
| 01:31 | (summary page) | |
| 01:31 | papa | ok, I'm taking your file and trying with it |
| 01:31 | slef | it imported 1 item correctly, though |
| 01:32 | can I see your file, for comparison? | |
| 01:33 | papa | sorry, not any more, I changed work environment recently and lost it |
| 01:33 | mtj | random daily Q... who's twitter account is this -> http://twitter.com/kohagit |
| 01:33 | http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]er-td3060105.html | |
| 01:33 | rangi | mine |
| 01:33 | papa | slef: what I did I exported a biblio from koha and worked with that |
| 01:34 | mtj | lol, i thought it might have been on of mine - but perhaps not... :/ |
| 01:34 | slef | papa: I'll try that |
| 01:34 | mtj | nicole asked that Q on ' oct 04, 2009' , so its very old |
| 01:34 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Social_Networks |
| 01:34 | tells ya htere | |
| 01:35 | slef | slef's current theory? |
| 01:35 | wahanui | slef, your current theory is that it's something to do with the matcher |
| 01:35 | * rangi | really leaves now |
| 01:35 | mtj | rangi: bah, thanks |
| 01:35 | slef | rangi is not always accurate about when he leaves IRC |
| 01:35 | wahanui: rangi? | |
| 01:35 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 01:35 | slef | heh |
| 01:36 | mtj | rangi: fyi the kohagit urls are glitchy |
| 01:36 | slef | mtj: with a control character? |
| 01:36 | mtj | rangi: and ignore my recent password reset requests :) |
| 01:36 | slef: yeah, i tjink | |
| 01:37 | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]tm_medium=twitter | |
| 01:37 | slef | mtj: have you considered using your fingers instead of your toes to type on IRC? |
| 01:37 | mtj | etc... |
| 01:37 | slef | mtj: I blame dlvr.it |
| 01:38 | mtj | slef: no, i pjefer toes |
| 01:39 | and yeah, i think its dlvr.it too | |
| 01:40 | slef | papa: tried with a record downloaded from svc/bib/11?items=1 (which is another enh bug) and it failed |
| 01:40 | and I'm falling asleep now so I'll have to return to this in the morning :( | |
| 01:40 | sorry | |
| 01:41 | mtj: ah I know. dlvr.it failing to process URLs containing ;-delimited query strings correctly. | |
| 01:42 | papa | slef: thanks, it will be sorted when you wake up |
| 01:43 | slef | very few things actively use ;-delimited instead of &-delimited. Stuff like dlvr.it is probably part of the reason why |
| 01:43 | papa: that would be very very cool. | |
| 01:44 | papa: thanks for your work on making svc more useful. Maybe I'll update the docs with this unfun stuff which someone should have written before ;) | |
| 01:45 | * mtj | waves to papa :) |
| 01:46 | * papa | waves back |
| 01:46 | papa | slef: where are the docs? |
| 02:12 | eythian | I really dislike how the zebra configuration won't log things that are clearly warnings, e.g. using the wrong username/password. |
| 02:24 | papa joined #koha | |
| 02:38 | mhussey joined #koha | |
| 02:45 | mhussey | Hello - I am a first year LIS student, and I am doing a bit of research on koha for a class project. I understand that koha is a free program, but I know that some costs are involved. Can anyone explain what they might consist of? I don't need great detail, just a few ideas, because my instructor will ask this question and I haven't been able to find out. |
| 02:47 | eythian | mhussey: There's no cost for the softwarem but if you have to pay someone to implement it for you, that'll be a cost. |
| 02:48 | Also the server to run it on, or hosting fees depending which way you go with that. | |
| 02:48 | Basically the same costs for a proprietary system, except no license fees. | |
| 02:49 | and if you are a programmer, you don't have to pay someone for customisation as you can do it yourself. | |
| 02:49 | mhussey | Ah - that is exactly what I am looking for. I am very new to all of this, so I wasn't even sure what to ask for. Thank you! |
| 02:49 | eythian | so it can range from zero cost (except the servers to run it on) if you do it all yourself, or more depending on which you choose to pay for. |
| 02:50 | mhussey | This is the first class I have taken about code and creating web pages, and although I'm not very god at it yet, I find this fascinating. Thanks so much! What you've told me is perfect! |
| 02:50 | eythian | no problem |
| 02:52 | mhussey | Have a great evening! |
| 02:52 | eythian | :) |
| 02:55 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 02:55 | Brooke | o/ |
| 03:30 | huginn help @fight | |
| 03:30 | huginn | Brooke: Error: There is no command "@fight". |
| 03:30 | Brooke | wahanui help @fight |
| 03:31 | typical. 2 male bots outperformed by one female bot. ;) | |
| 03:31 | Judit | :D |
| 03:31 | eythian | you're the violent one here, clearly. |
| 03:32 | wahanui: do you want to play a game is <reply>Global thermonuclear war? My favourite! | |
| 03:32 | wahanui | OK, eythian. |
| 03:33 | Brooke | Zoia arranges cagematches :P |
| 04:09 | mtj | eythian: some impressive beer on-tap at HZ at the mo :) |
| 04:10 | http://hashigozake.co.nz/beerlist.html | |
| 04:10 | eythian | mtj: yeah, I'm moving flat tomorrow though, need to finish packing tonight. |
| 04:10 | mtj | 2 coranados and a green-flash :p |
| 04:11 | eythian | it's not bad. |
| 04:11 | mtj | meh, next time then :) |
| 04:11 | eythian | though, the Caronado wit beer is very very strange. |
| 04:12 | bag | ummm BEER!!! |
| 04:12 | sounds good about now | |
| 04:12 | :D | |
| 04:12 | mtj | figures... you've been there, done that... :) |
| 04:12 | eythian | mtj: it came out on tuesday. That was ages ago. |
| 04:13 | mtj | pours brendan a glass of Coronado Stoopid Stout (9.4% ABV) |
| 04:13 | even reading that, makes me feel slightly wobbly :p | |
| 04:14 | eythian | that one is very good. |
| 04:14 | bag | heh |
| 04:14 | mtj | ok, gotta scoot guys |
| 04:14 | bag | late mason |
| 04:14 | mtj | hope the move goes smoove-azz, eythian |
| 04:14 | eythian | cheers, cya |
| 04:26 | liw | eythian, are you going to offer to present on how the Koha .debs work and the various helpful things they can do for you, at Kohacon? |
| 04:27 | eythian | liw: probably, possibly. I haven't had time to sit down and think up a talk topic yet. It's one entry on my severely overgrown todo list at the moment. |
| 04:28 | liw | eythian, I think it might be welcome :) I am going to offer to give a generic Debian packaging tutorial (a repeat of the one I gave on my last day at Catalyst), during the hackfest |
| 04:29 | eythian | OK cool, not a bad idea then. |
| 04:29 | So far I know of two or three others around here who are regularly building their own Koha packages for use. | |
| 04:30 | Topic for #koha is now Happy Birthday Eythian | |
| 04:30 | eythian | ... |
| 04:30 | rangi | yep, magnuse and jcamins |
| 04:30 | liw | I seem to occasionally notice discussions along the lines of "the packages do what for me? oh, that's nice, I didn't know that", so spreading that knowlege around sounds like a win |
| 04:30 | rangi | yep |
| 04:30 | eythian | rangi: also the Hungaustralians. |
| 04:30 | rangi | ah yes |
| 04:31 | liw | eythian, hyvää syntymäpäivää! |
| 04:31 | eythian | liw: dankjewel |
| 04:31 | liw: yeah, those do come up a bit | |
| 04:32 | rangi | you are awake early liw |
| 04:33 | liw | rangi, yeah, interrupted sleep and going back to bed in a bit |
| 04:34 | rangi | ahhh :) hope round 2 goes better :) |
| 04:34 | * eythian | is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc. |
| 04:34 | liw | eythian, have fun |
| 04:35 | stuartyeates joined #koha | |
| 04:42 | * rangi | is compiling a kernel for the first time in about 8 years |
| 04:45 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 04:45 | Brooke | o/ |
| 04:47 | bag | well happy birthday eythian |
| 04:48 | Brooke | orlly |
| 04:48 | * Brooke | hands eythian a beer. |
| 04:49 | Brooke | what is he, 17 now? |
| 04:50 | Judit | 17 :) |
| 04:50 | no beer for him then | |
| 04:50 | Brooke | fah, Kiwis are like the Irish |
| 04:50 | if someone can see over the bar, it's all good. | |
| 04:51 | * Brooke | ducks the rotten tomatoes. |
| 04:54 | Brooke | feh |
| 04:54 | NZ has the same dumb thing going on with law that we do | |
| 04:54 | You're old enough to shoot someone in service to your flag | |
| 04:54 | but not old enough to knock back a pint. | |
| 04:55 | rangi | its 18 for both |
| 04:55 | Brooke | http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/[…],498805ddc,0.html |
| 04:56 | granted, our shenanigans let us ship out like 14 year olds. Highly unlikely that'll occur, but it *is* possible. | |
| 04:57 | rangi | yep, you cant be deployed until you are 18 |
| 04:57 | so you can be in the army when you are 17 | |
| 04:57 | you cant shoot someone until you are 18 | |
| 04:57 | Brooke | no, you can't shoot an enemy beyond your borders until 18. |
| 04:57 | rangi | ydo you cant be deployed |
| 04:58 | doesnt matter where | |
| 04:58 | Brooke | doesn't say you can't handle a rifle. |
| 04:58 | * Brooke | remembers being in the pit with a pimple faced kid. |
| 04:59 | rangi | you cant shoot someone |
| 04:59 | you can handle a rifle just fine, you just arent allowed to use it | |
| 05:01 | if you want to be an officer, you can apply at 17.5 but cant enlist until you are 18 | |
| 05:01 | Brooke | without parental consent |
| 05:01 | or spousal. | |
| 05:01 | rangi | no |
| 05:01 | they wont take you | |
| 05:01 | and you have to be 19 by the time you graduate | |
| 05:01 | they dont want officers younger than 19 | |
| 05:02 | Judit | if you have a rifle you can shoot anyone- evenif you dont have a permisson to do so |
| 05:02 | * rangi | spent a signficant amount of time in the defense building working in the archives when at uni |
| 05:02 | rangi | Judit: and its against the law, no different to farmers or anyone else who has a rifle |
| 05:03 | if you want to be electronic warfare, they wont even take you at less than 19 | |
| 05:03 | as a recruit | |
| 05:05 | Brooke | it's 17 to join. http://www.defencecareers.mil.[…]-up/am-i-eligible |
| 05:06 | liw | I'm sure the NZ forces are happy to take on 17-year-olds to do dishes until they grow up :P |
| 05:06 | Brooke | roflmao |
| 05:06 | rangi | Brooke: depends on the role if you read further |
| 05:06 | Brooke | good dishwashers are in short supply anywhere |
| 05:06 | liw | (I did my military service in .fi mostly doing dishes) |
| 05:06 | Brooke | right, but they'll take you at 17. |
| 05:06 | rangi | and yes you can be a rifleman recruit at 17 |
| 05:06 | not for officers they wont | |
| 05:06 | or electronic warfare | |
| 05:07 | they wont take an officer recruit until 18 | |
| 05:07 | you can apply at 17.5 tho | |
| 05:07 | you can drive a truck at 17 too | |
| 05:07 | or be a chef | |
| 05:08 | Brooke | http://www.cadetforces.mil.nz/join/default.htm |
| 05:08 | just sayin' | |
| 05:09 | rangi | yes cadets |
| 05:09 | its not like they deploy cadets, or they are allowed to shoot people | |
| 05:09 | liw | I like armies that aren't allowed to shoot people |
| 05:10 | rangi | apart from the SAS |
| 05:10 | liw | they're almost as good as libraries that allow you to read books for free |
| 05:10 | rangi | nz army hasnt fired a shot in combat in years |
| 05:10 | and i guarantee theres no 17 year olds in the SAS :) | |
| 05:11 | liw | :) |
| 05:12 | rangi | the nz army mostly goes round rebuilding stuff everyone else blew up these days |
| 05:12 | and we dont even have a strike force in the airforce anymore | |
| 05:13 | we could crash a hercules at you | |
| 05:13 | or an orion | |
| 05:13 | :) | |
| 05:13 | Brooke | similar combat readiness to the proper Irish Army, imo. |
| 05:13 | one of the local magazines awarded that lot a case of suds once. Between them. XD | |
| 05:14 | Standing guard + Neutral country = posh job | |
| 05:14 | rangi | oh we get shot at a lot |
| 05:14 | we just dont get to shoot back | |
| 05:15 | there were engineers in iraq, and afghanistan | |
| 05:15 | building bridges et al | |
| 05:15 | Brooke | mm hmm |
| 05:15 | rangi | and timor peace keepers etc |
| 05:16 | i think we pulled the engineers out now, i think only one sas unit left .. but they will never confirm nor deny that fact | |
| 05:16 | thats how the SAS roll | |
| 05:16 | you only know where they were | |
| 05:16 | not where they are | |
| 05:17 | Brooke | >.> |
| 05:18 | <.< | |
| 05:18 | rangi | my maori oral history lecturer was ex SAS |
| 05:18 | helped getting access to the defense records of WWII soldiers | |
| 05:19 | Brooke | yeah I was at a gathering the other day |
| 05:19 | and was like you need to talk to these 2 people | |
| 05:19 | cause the guy was telling some pretty good stories | |
| 05:19 | that I knew had at very least a kernel of truth | |
| 05:19 | rangi | . The final exercise is a 60-kilometre endurance march, carrying a 35 kg pack, web gear and rifle, to be completed in under 20 hours |
| 05:20 | bugger that for a joke | |
| 05:20 | Brooke | yeah, I was just talking about a 50/20 at fencing |
| 05:20 | and I was like orlly | |
| 05:20 | unburdened? | |
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| 05:20 | Brooke | no problem! |
| 05:20 | cait | morning #koha |
| 05:20 | and happy birthday eythian :) | |
| 05:21 | Brooke | morning cait :D |
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| 05:21 | rangi | hi cait |
| 05:21 | cait | evening rangi |
| 05:23 | rangi | i wonder if this computer will catch fire before the kernel finishes compliting |
| 05:23 | compiling too | |
| 05:23 | Brooke | are we cheering for or against the fire? |
| 05:24 | cait | the ithing again? |
| 05:24 | ronald joined #koha | |
| 05:24 | Brooke | it *is* beer o' clock... |
| 05:24 | liw | rangi, are you compiling your own kernel in order to get a fix for fan control? :) |
| 05:24 | rangi | partially :) |
| 05:25 | Brooke | heh, wouldn't put it past him |
| 05:25 | rangi | i inherited an old ibook 2.2 that was going to just leach toxic waste into the landfill, purged all the proprietary crap off it and got debian on it |
| 05:25 | but the sleep/hibernate is a bit dicy | |
| 05:25 | Brooke | yeah |
| 05:26 | those little guys get hot, too | |
| 05:26 | rangi | so playing around to see if i can get it behave a bit nicer |
| 05:26 | Brooke | almost burnt me lap at one point |
| 05:26 | rangi | also with 600MB ram, taking things out of the kernel it doesnt use/need doesnt hurt too |
| 05:26 | * Brooke | nods. |
| 05:27 | rangi | then it will be a perfectly decent gcompris, kidsplay box for kahu |
| 05:27 | Brooke | 600 seems an odd amount of ram. Didn't it used to be 512ish? |
| 05:27 | rangi | MemTotal: 635416 kB |
| 05:27 | * Brooke | votes for TuxRacer |
| 05:28 | * liw | votes for Python ;-) |
| 05:28 | rangi | :) |
| 05:29 | well ill start with logo | |
| 05:29 | then maybe we'll jump to go :) | |
| 05:29 | skip ruby, or ill have to buy him a vespa and ironic tshirts | |
| 05:29 | Brooke | XD |
| 05:30 | did I tell you what my Da said to Tom? | |
| 05:30 | cait | lol |
| 05:30 | Brooke | a few Thanksgivings back, we passed a scooter dealer. |
| 05:31 | and the little mister was like "Meh, why do they sell those, no one looks good on them." | |
| 05:31 | I grunted, cause I have a few ideas of me own. | |
| 05:31 | rangi | ruby on rails |
| 05:31 | its almost the law | |
| 05:31 | Brooke | the old man is like "Italian women look great on em." |
| 05:32 | certainly a meme for that methinks | |
| 05:32 | it's like Librarians + Cats. | |
| 05:32 | dogs are half optional | |
| 05:32 | but cats seem near mandatory | |
| 05:33 | liw | there's a whole movie based on Ms. Hepburn and Mr. Peck looking good on a scooter |
| 05:33 | Brooke | aye liw |
| 05:33 | liw++ | |
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| 05:46 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 05:53 | Judit left #koha | |
| 06:06 | rangi | liw: pleased to report obnam 0.26 is working fine on this ppc |
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| 06:33 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 06:34 | reiveune joined #koha | |
| 06:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 06:38 | marcelr joined #koha | |
| 06:38 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 06:39 | cait | hi marcelr :) |
| 06:39 | marcelr | hi cait |
| 06:39 | rangi | hi marcelr |
| 06:39 | cait | marcelr: working on a fix for the serial subscription alert... or trying to |
| 06:39 | rangi | and alex_a and reiveune |
| 06:39 | marcelr | hi rangi |
| 06:40 | reiveune | hi rangi marcelr cait and everybody :) |
| 06:40 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
| 06:40 | cait | hi reiveune :) |
| 06:43 | alex_a | hi rangi, cait and marcelr |
| 06:48 | marcelr | hi alex_a |
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| 06:55 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
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| 06:59 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 06:59 | paul_p | ih marcelr |
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| 07:05 | asaurat | hi |
| 07:05 | wahanui | hello, asaurat |
| 07:13 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
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| 07:14 | gaetan_B | hello #koha |
| 07:14 | happy birthday eythian ! ;) | |
| 07:14 | marcelr | hi magnuse gaetan_B |
| 07:15 | alex_a | ah ? |
| 07:15 | happy birthday eythian | |
| 07:15 | magnuse | hiya gaetan_B marcelr alex_a |
| 07:15 | happy birthday eythian | |
| 07:15 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
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| 07:16 | Joubu | hello ! |
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| 07:18 | marcelr | hi joubu |
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| 07:34 | kf | hi #koha |
| 07:37 | marcelr | hi kf again |
| 07:38 | paul_p | hi kf & magnuse |
| 07:38 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 07:39 | paul_p | marcelr any plan to do some QA today ? |
| 07:39 | I plan to work on QA/push all today, so maybe we should/could coordinate if you plan to | |
| 07:39 | kf | paul_p: I have a request |
| 07:39 | paul_p | hey... some patches have passed QA during the night :D |
| 07:40 | magnuse | paul_p++ |
| 07:40 | kf | please don't qa on biblibre patches |
| 07:40 | paul_p | unfortunatly, the QAed ones are the easy ones. |
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| 07:43 | marcelr | paul_p: i don't know yet |
| 07:44 | paul_p | marcelr = OK, i'll report what i'm working on here then |
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| 08:17 | magnuse | huh, no-one ever thought about making the news items in koha available as RSS? |
| 08:18 | kf | you should do that then :) |
| 08:18 | magnuse | i can at least create a bug for it |
| 08:18 | mbalmer | twitter integration! |
| 08:23 | magnuse | mbalmer: importing tweets into the opac or pushing news items out to twitter? |
| 08:23 | mbalmer | the latter. but I was not 100% serious.. |
| 08:24 | magnuse | hehe |
| 08:29 | rangi | anyone know samuel desseaux ? |
| 08:30 | kf | I think he was on the chan |
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| 08:30 | mbalmer | only from the mail he sent. |
| 08:30 | kf | and wrote some bugs |
| 08:30 | i was not aware that he is in france until now | |
| 08:30 | macphisto | hi everybody! |
| 08:31 | rangi | hi macphisto |
| 08:32 | i guess we might need to ask him to write up a quick proposal | |
| 08:32 | kf | hm yes |
| 08:32 | or a descripton about translation manager in general | |
| 08:32 | I think people are not sure what it involves | |
| 08:33 | rangi | true |
| 08:34 | maybe show him http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_for_3.4_Proposal | |
| 08:35 | kf | meeting |
| 08:35 | rangi | i can write a quick email if ppl think that would be useful |
| 08:35 | kf_mtg | bbl |
| 08:35 | it would be :) | |
| 08:35 | macphisto | yes, it's me who has just added my name on the wiki. The link is a good summary of the position |
| 08:37 | rangi | cool |
| 08:37 | i think there is one i did for 3.2 too | |
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| 08:40 | rangi | but maybe not, cant find it |
| 08:40 | macphisto | to be involved is a good idea but it takes many time, it 's sure. As librarian system, i know there's many ways to help the project |
| 08:41 | rangi | yep, the main bit of time would be in setting up a pootle instance |
| 08:41 | at the start | |
| 08:41 | then before each release, you need to commit the updated .po files | |
| 08:42 | the rest is mostly answering questions, and you have kf to help with that :) she knows a lot about how the translations work | |
| 08:43 | it might be that fredericd will want to continue to host the pootle instance | |
| 08:43 | and just hand over admin .. but I dont know .. a possibility maybe | |
| 08:47 | macphisto | ok |
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| 08:53 | rangi | macphisto: where in france are you? |
| 08:53 | paris? | |
| 08:54 | macphisto | yes |
| 08:58 | * rangi | was last there in 2006 for kohacon |
| 09:01 | macphisto | i work for this school http://www.ecp.fr/lang/en/homepage |
| 09:01 | rangi | ahhh |
| 09:01 | cool | |
| 09:01 | we were at ecole des mines | |
| 09:02 | macphisto | ok, before, i work at the Ecole Nationale des Chartes (where koha run :-)) |
| 09:03 | rangi | ahhh |
| 09:03 | maybe at your school in a few years too :) | |
| 09:07 | macphisto | cool |
| 09:08 | slef | argh bugzilla silently discards emails if it doesn't recognise the sender? :( |
| 09:09 | * slef | does the change-email-address shuffle |
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| 09:18 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #687 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 09:23 | paul_p | bonjour samuel ( macphisto ) |
| 09:24 | macphisto | bonjour |
| 09:25 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1ce805bff875b157f> / Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]67f56e1b968aaf229> / Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU... <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/? |
| 09:26 | slef | paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply |
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| 09:56 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 09:56 | magnuse | Oak |
| 09:56 | Oak | magnuse |
| 09:57 | magnuse | yay! |
| 09:57 | Oak | :) |
| 09:58 | macphisto | see you soon :-) |
| 10:01 | Oak | do many libraries use the Koha acquisition module? |
| 10:02 | magnuse | Oak: impossible to tell specific numbers... |
| 10:02 | but i think there are a fair number that do | |
| 10:03 | biblibre has done some development on it, so probably a number of their customers | |
| 10:03 | Oak | hmm |
| 10:03 | magnuse | and some of kf's customers |
| 10:04 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #687: SUCCESS in 46 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/687/ |
| 10:04 | * kyle: Bug 7485 - Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add | |
| 10:04 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 4819: Add ids to OPAC detail page | |
| 10:04 | * magnus: Bug 7436 - Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE | |
| 10:04 | * magnus: Bug 7537 - Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT | |
| 10:04 | * jcamins: Bug 7617: Sort authority results by authid | |
| 10:04 | * jcamins: Bug 7701: Error when sending serial alerts | |
| 10:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7485 critical, P1 - high, ---, gmcharlt, Pushed to Master , Cannot edit barcode on Fast Add |
| 10:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to Master , Add ID attribute to certain areas of OPAC so jquery can be used to hide them | |
| 10:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7436 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Set itemtypes.rentalcharge = 0 in sample data for nb-NO and de-DE | |
| 10:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7537 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , Implement TraceCompleteSubfields, TraceSubjectSubdivisions and UseICU for NORMARC XSLT | |
| 10:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order | |
| 10:04 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7701 critical, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Error when sending serial alerts | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | success! woohoo! |
| 10:05 | Oak | but it's okay to skip configuring/using it if the client want to do acquisitions the way they like to do... |
| 10:05 | manually | |
| 10:05 | magnuse | yeah sure, you don't have to use it |
| 10:05 | Oak | good. okay. |
| 10:15 | paul_p | marcelr = I've QAed 4032, but as it's a BibLibre patch, I haven't set "passed QA" status. If you can have a look at it... |
| 10:16 | marcelr | paul_p: saw it |
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| 10:29 | kmkale | Happy birthday eythian :) |
| 10:31 | paul_p | marcelr same thing for bug 7291 |
| 10:31 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7291 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , claims management improvement |
| 10:32 | paul_p | and it's time to head for lunch... brb |
| 10:32 | Oak | kmkale, any Z39.50 server from India I can use for importing MARC records for management sciences LPE books? |
| 10:35 | kmkale | Oak: Not that I am aware of |
| 10:43 | magnuse | Oak: http://irspy.indexdata.com/ |
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| 10:50 | Safwan83 | hey |
| 10:50 | anyone here? | |
| 10:51 | i have a question plz sombdy answear me...ay Koha community member around? | |
| 10:51 | any* | |
| 11:04 | Oak | thank you magnus_lunch ! |
| 11:13 | BobB | @seen slef |
| 11:13 | huginn | BobB: slef was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 47 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <slef> paul_p: I resent the items=1 reply |
| 11:13 | BobB | slef: ping |
| 11:22 | @later tell slef to check his email re kohacon12 letter | |
| 11:22 | huginn | BobB: The operation succeeded. |
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| 11:50 | hdl | hi BobB |
| 11:50 | @later tell eythian happy birthday | |
| 11:50 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:51 | BobB | hi hdl :) |
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| 11:56 | hdl | hope you're fine. |
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| 12:14 | gmcharlt | good morning |
| 12:14 | slef | gmcharlt: no, not really ;) Hope yours is better |
| 12:14 | gmcharlt | slef: oh dear ... what happened? |
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| 12:15 | slef | gmcharlt: server throwing a disk slowly |
| 12:16 | gmcharlt: or actually, the disk has been replaced once (yay RAID) after tests by the hardware supplier but now it's dying again, so maybe it's something else. Not much fun. | |
| 12:17 | gmcharlt | slef: indeed not; best wishes for a speedy recovery |
| 12:21 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 12:21 | marcelr | hi oleonard gmcharlt |
| 12:22 | gmcharlt | hi marcelr |
| 12:29 | paul_p | good morning oleonard & gmcharlt |
| 12:30 | gmcharlt | hi paul_p |
| 12:32 | paul_p | gmcharlt will you be available in a few hours, I may want to speak with you of your bug 7818 |
| 12:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7818 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , support DOM mode for Zebra indexing of bibliographic records |
| 12:32 | paul_p | (for now, i'm QAing & pushing...) |
| 12:32 | gmcharlt | paul_p: yes |
| 12:34 | liw | rangi, obnam on ppc: awesome |
| 12:38 | paul_p | marcelr i'm on bug 7641 now (that has some trivial conflicts) |
| 12:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 12:38 | marcelr | ok, not qa-ing for now |
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| 13:28 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2fc6389484b0cc7d8> / bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9136bece143841dbc> / bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) <http://git.koha-community.org |
| 13:30 | oleonard | Whew, it had been too long since I had a patch pushed. I was starting to get the shakes. |
| 13:31 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 13:32 | magnus_afk | oleonard++ |
| 13:32 | oleonard | kf++ # for taking notes for me during my talk on staff client interface patterns |
| 13:32 | I'm staring to go through them finally | |
| 13:33 | kf | oh |
| 13:33 | hope they are understandable | |
| 13:33 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #688 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 13:33 | magnus_afk | kf++ |
| 13:34 | oleonard | magnus_afk: Will you be at KohaCon? |
| 13:34 | magnus_afk | nope, sorry |
| 13:34 | oleonard | Me neither, so at least I'm not missing another opportunity to meet you in person. |
| 13:34 | * wizzyrea | won't be there either :( |
| 13:35 | * kf | sniffs |
| 13:35 | magnus_afk | we're having a baby - it's due on june 26th, but i better stick around at home :-) |
| 13:35 | * magnus_afk | sniffs too |
| 13:35 | * kf | passes the paper tissues |
| 13:35 | magnus_afk | oleonard: there will be more opportunities |
| 13:35 | * wizzyrea | recalls oleonard being at kohacon09 with a baby due in the next... several weeks? |
| 13:35 | oleonard | Yup, I took the chance :) |
| 13:35 | wizzyrea | but he was only in texas :P |
| 13:35 | * magnus_afk | is very curious about if and where there will be a kohacon13... |
| 13:35 | wizzyrea | actually, probably about the same distance |
| 13:36 | * wizzyrea | forgets how huge the US is |
| 13:36 | * oleonard | is glad he took the chance or he wouldn't have met wizzyrea in person |
| 13:36 | wizzyrea | and takes it for granted, all at the same time |
| 13:36 | :D me too. | |
| 13:37 | maybe it will be mexico city | |
| 13:37 | that would be cool | |
| 13:37 | * wizzyrea | has a passport and (funds permitting) isn't afraid to use it |
| 13:37 | magnus_afk | yay! |
| 13:37 | * oleonard | plans a pity-party for all the non-KohaCon-goers |
| 13:37 | wizzyrea | y'all can come down to lawrence :P |
| 13:37 | magnus_afk | yes please! |
| 13:37 | kf | I would like croatia :) |
| 13:37 | * oleonard | votes for Croatia too! |
| 13:38 | wizzyrea | sure why not :) |
| 13:38 | magnus_afk | fine by me! |
| 13:38 | * jcamins_away | is planning on going to Lawrence for the "no KohaCon for you" pity party this year. |
| 13:38 | magnus_afk | but it's hardly europe's turn again... |
| 13:38 | wizzyrea | we really ought to make that sort of official. |
| 13:39 | kf | do we have to? :( |
| 13:39 | magnus_afk | the pity party? |
| 13:39 | or the continent "rule"? | |
| 13:39 | * chris_n | hears a big splash in his pool of assigned bugs |
| 13:39 | kf | lol |
| 13:39 | big one? | |
| 13:39 | wizzyrea | well a "can't travel to europe but still want to have a koha hackfest in the US at or near the same time" thing. |
| 13:40 | chris_n | right now they're all big kf :-) |
| 13:40 | wizzyrea | no I like the continent rule |
| 13:40 | kf | ok, gone again |
| 13:40 | bbl | |
| 13:40 | macphisto | hi! i plan too for the kohacon.There's a meeting in Paris in May for the french users (a colleague gave me the news yesterday) and it will be my first kohacon |
| 13:40 | magnus_afk | according to wolfram alpha the distance from bodø to edinburgh is 1558 km |
| 13:40 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 13:41 | jcamins | This is odd. |
| 13:41 | Finally! | |
| 13:41 | I can't seem to change my nick. | |
| 13:41 | wizzyrea | how far from athens to plano texas? |
| 13:41 | jcamins | Okay... |
| 13:41 | wizzyrea | athens ohio |
| 13:41 | jcamins | That was weird. |
| 13:41 | * chris_n | looks around for the space-time continuum warping module |
| 13:42 | magnus_afk | 1488km |
| 13:42 | http://www.wolframalpha.com/in[…]to+plano%2C+texas | |
| 13:42 | * magnus_afk | takes the dogs for a walk |
| 13:42 | jcamins | Heh. Only 70km difference. |
| 13:42 | wizzyrea | I got 1 749 |
| 13:42 | from google | |
| 13:42 | but that's "road distance" | |
| 13:43 | shorter if you fly :P | |
| 13:43 | chris_n: busy busy eh? | |
| 13:44 | chris_n | well, I thought you could use it to be in europe and n america at once ;-) |
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| 13:53 | chris_n | dpavlin++ # for bug 7846 |
| 13:53 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup |
| 13:54 | chris_n | massive is an understatement |
| 13:54 | wizzyrea ^^ | |
| 13:54 | tcohen | hi #koha |
| 13:54 | chris_n | your folks should love that one |
| 13:54 | heya tcohen | |
| 13:54 | wizzyrea | oooh |
| 13:55 | tcohen | can anyone give me some explanation of a proper my-own-git setup for a production server? |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | holy crap |
| 13:55 | that's amazing. | |
| 13:55 | chris_n | complete with flames |
| 13:55 | tcohen | i'd like it to follow 3.6.x |
| 13:55 | chris_n | maybe photons really can exceed the speed of light, heh? |
| 13:56 | jcamins | tcohen: don't use git for production. |
| 13:56 | chris_n | tcohen: what he said |
| 13:56 | use packages | |
| 13:56 | tcohen | r they suitable for production already? |
| 13:56 | never used them | |
| 13:58 | jcamins | tcohen: yes. git is not. |
| 13:58 | tcohen | suppose we already use git for every project here at the university |
| 13:58 | and would like to maintain some of our customisations in our dev git repo | |
| 13:59 | i mean, we need to use git, locally | |
| 14:01 | does anyone use a dev install against a git checkout? | |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | almost everyone does - for dev. |
| 14:02 | version control using git | |
| 14:02 | wahanui | somebody said version control using git was at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 14:02 | wizzyrea | that's really the best guide |
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| 14:03 | tcohen | i suppose some vendors use some kind of dev install for their customers... |
| 14:03 | if they sell and maintain customizations | |
| 14:04 | jcamins | tcohen: sorry, I misunderstood what you wanted. |
| 14:04 | I thought you were talking about the latter option. | |
| 14:04 | (using a dev install for production) | |
| 14:05 | That's a bad idea. Much better to use packages for production. For your own work, much better to use git. | |
| 14:05 | Roll your own packages for installing on production if you have customizations. | |
| 14:06 | tcohen | jcamins: that's a good advise |
| 14:06 | packages are suitable for multi-site deploys, right? | |
| 14:07 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 14:07 | I use packages exclusively for production. | |
| 14:08 | tcohen | thanks jcamins, i'll try that way |
| 14:08 | jcamins | I roll my own packages, based on 3.6.x, but with additional patches merged in. |
| 14:08 | tcohen | and how do you maintain your git repo in sync? |
| 14:08 | do u push master against your git? | |
| 14:09 | i mean, the 3.6.x branch? | |
| 14:09 | jcamins | My setup might be considered a bit Byzantine. |
| 14:09 | I have one system I do all my development on. | |
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| 14:09 | jcamins | That one has a gazillion branches, and is usually on Master. |
| 14:09 | tcohen | so you do your work locally |
| 14:09 | jcamins | I have another system which does not run Koha at all, just has the git repo for packaging. |
| 14:09 | slef | jcamins: do you have git gr configured? |
| 14:09 | wahanui: git gr? | |
| 14:09 | wahanui | slef: bugger all, i dunno |
| 14:10 | jcamins | git gr? |
| 14:10 | I push my 3.6.x-based changes to that repo, build the packages, and then deploy to a third system, which is my staging server. | |
| 14:10 | slef | git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig |
| 14:10 | wahanui: git gr? | |
| 14:10 | wahanui | bugger all, i dunno, slef |
| 14:10 | slef | wahanui: you suck |
| 14:10 | wahanui | slef: sorry... |
| 14:11 | slef | wahanui: git gr is gr = log --graph --full-history --all --color --pretty=tformat:"%x1b[31m%h%x09%x1b[32m%x1b[0m%x20%s%x20%x1b[33m(%an)%x1b[0m" in the [alias] section of .gitconfig |
| 14:11 | jcamins | I test that everything's working as intended, then upload and install to my production servers. |
| 14:11 | slef | wahanui: git gr? |
| 14:11 | wahanui | slef: i don't know |
| 14:11 | * slef | kills wahanui |
| 14:11 | slef | wahanui: die! |
| 14:11 | wahanui | slef: what? |
| 14:11 | slef | wahanui: have a lethal botsnack |
| 14:11 | wahanui | thanks slef :) |
| 14:11 | slef | :)? |
| 14:11 | wahanui | :) is ok |
| 14:11 | jcamins | That is so cool! |
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| 14:12 | libsysguy | soliciting thoughts: instant fine calculation on checkin? |
| 14:12 | slef | libsysguy: what's the down side? Race conditions? |
| 14:12 | Oak | how do I display edition of a book in opac normal view? |
| 14:12 | libsysguy | in addition to running it nightly/whenever so patrons can still see their fines |
| 14:13 | wizzyrea | it doesn't show that in xslt view? |
| 14:13 | slef | Oak: enable XSLT or ISBD display and edit the stylesheet or template if it's not shown? |
| 14:13 | libsysguy | heh slef you might see a .0001 s knock in checkin performance |
| 14:13 | Oak | okay got it. |
| 14:13 | thank you! | |
| 14:13 | libsysguy | but since you're not doing it for all items, its very VERY nominal |
| 14:14 | slef | anyone else think "normal" view is a bit misnamed? Or does it follow a norm that I've not noticed? |
| 14:14 | jcamins | slef: it is very much misnamed. |
| 14:14 | wizzyrea | yes, i think so. |
| 14:14 | what does it mean, actually? | |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | i think wizzyrea had some apprehension toward it when I brought it up about a yeah ago |
| 14:14 | jcamins | libsysguy: I think that's a great idea, personally. |
| 14:14 | slef | I think it's an HLT legacy view BICBW |
| 14:14 | libsysguy | year** |
| 14:14 | * wizzyrea | considers them "the sucky" and "not sucky" view |
| 14:15 | oleonard | "What a general public patron would normally expect to see in a library catalog" |
| 14:15 | wizzyrea | I did, but only because of performance issues |
| 14:15 | if it's not that big of a deal then sure, go ahead. | |
| 14:15 | ;) | |
| 14:15 | slef | libsysguy: what happens if the same patron checks in two books at the same moment? |
| 14:15 | jcamins | Yeah, I'd want to be very sure that it had minimal impact on performance. |
| 14:16 | However, if it really is completely minimal, it'd certainly be useful. | |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | oleonard: I meant to show you my new opac customizations http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi[…]earch.pl?q=lasers |
| 14:16 | Oak | coool. worked. |
| 14:16 | slef | oleonard: I think you mean usually, not normally. |
| 14:16 | oleonard | Whatever. |
| 14:16 | libsysguy | slef, it would just calculate when AddReturn got called |
| 14:17 | jcamins | libsysguy: you should remove the "Actions" line. |
| 14:17 | oleonard | Looks really nice libsysguy |
| 14:17 | * slef | wanders off back into the git tree, muttering about these damned merkins breaking the language |
| 14:17 | jcamins | And, for that matter, the "Log in to add tags" line. |
| 14:17 | libsysguy | jcamins, agreed |
| 14:17 | jcamins | And what happened to your nice two-line availability display? |
| 14:17 | libsysguy | umm those got killed in the great rebase to master |
| 14:17 | but i am working on rebasing my patch | |
| 14:18 | but I have to wander back off into the wiki to find out how to do syspref additions again | |
| 14:18 | apparently the way it is now is an old way | |
| 14:18 | jcamins | And you might want to set the background on the body tag to match that darker tannish color. |
| 14:18 | libsysguy | oh for when the picture runs out? |
| 14:19 | on say larger screen resolutions | |
| 14:19 | I have that problem at work too | |
| 14:19 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | it's purty :) |
| 14:19 | jcamins | There's an unsightly bar at the bottom. |
| 14:19 | libsysguy | I had to model it after this http://www.uttyler.edu/ |
| 14:19 | ugh I know…I think it is the opac credits | |
| 14:19 | wizzyrea | oh yea def set the background on the body tag. |
| 14:19 | libsysguy | I haven't gotten around to building a footer yet |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Hm, in that case you'll want to use that dark gray. |
| 14:20 | libsysguy | yeah for sure |
| 14:20 | my poor 13" screen misses some things | |
| 14:20 | tcohen | jcamins: thanks |
| 14:20 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #688: UNSTABLE in 47 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/688/ |
| 14:20 | * kyle: Bug 7641: Suspend Reserves | |
| 14:20 | * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up DBRev number | |
| 14:20 | * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: activate use strict (see coding guidelines) | |
| 14:20 | * paul.poulain: bug 7641 follow-up: remove some unconditionnal warns | |
| 14:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 14:20 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 7835 - submit and cancel buttons on diff lines on notices |
| 14:20 | jcamins | Aside from all the work I just added to your plate, though, looks good! |
| 14:20 | :) | |
| 14:21 | libsysguy | jcamins, wizzyrea thanks for looking over it :) |
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| 14:21 | libsysguy | I've been getting complaints all morning about instant fine calculation being gone :'( |
| 14:21 | apparently it was a popular feature | |
| 14:22 | jcamins | I'm not surprised. |
| 14:22 | I certainly noticed the lack immediately when I started using Koha. | |
| 14:22 | libsysguy | for hourly its a super useful tool for horuly |
| 14:22 | hourly** | |
| 14:23 | i just wanted to make sure if I submitted it I wouldn't get smacked down to the bottom of bugzilla :p | |
| 14:25 | wizzyrea | libsysguy: I'd say submit it |
| 14:25 | ffs evergreen does it. | |
| 14:25 | :P | |
| 14:25 | libsysguy | ok, I'm creating the ticket now |
| 14:29 | gmcharlt | wizzyrea: hey now! ;) |
| 14:29 | slef | gmcharlt: as in: hey now hey now, don't dream it's over? |
| 14:31 | * jcamins | heads over to the old apartment for almost the last time. |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | oh I know right. |
| 14:32 | * wizzyrea | can't believe that windows doesn't natively untar things |
| 14:32 | is righteously annoyed by this fact. | |
| 14:33 | slef | do I withhold a signoff for a cosmetic problem on an enh? |
| 14:33 | jcamins_away | slef: depends how bad it is. |
| 14:34 | slef | jcamins_away: every record numbered 0 instead of 1, 2, 3, ... Doesn't seem to have a practical effect. |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | which bug slef? |
| 14:34 | slef | bug 7613 |
| 14:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib |
| 14:34 | slef | it's a really really nice enh |
| 14:34 | wizzyrea | you think it would be easy to fix in a followup? |
| 14:34 | and that the followup would be done before release? | |
| 14:35 | slef | depends on the root cause |
| 14:35 | jcamins_away | ^^ |
| 14:35 | * slef | wonders why jcamins_away underlined "on" for him ;) |
| 14:35 | * jcamins_away | was trying to point at wizzyrea's question. |
| 14:36 | wizzyrea | I use it as a "what they said" mechanism |
| 14:36 | * jcamins_away | actually leaves. |
| 14:37 | slef | I don't know if the followup would be done pre-release |
| 14:39 | on further inspection, the bug isn't introduced by the enh... it's an older bug, merely exposed by it | |
| 14:39 | I think I'll signoff | |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | yep, I think that merits a signoff. |
| 14:43 | slef | done |
| 14:43 | bug 7613 | |
| 14:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7613 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , OCLC Connexion Gateway, including extension svc/import_bib |
| 14:44 | kf | can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | go north |
| 14:44 | kf | I need an sql to replace / with - in a couple of barcodes |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea: it's cold in the north! | |
| 14:44 | slef | mysql manual? |
| 14:44 | wizzyrea | sorry, go south |
| 14:45 | ^.^ | |
| 14:45 | but not too far south | |
| 14:45 | reiveune | bye |
| 14:45 | kf | slef: yes, but was thinking about a function perhaps |
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| 14:46 | slef | kf: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refma[…]#function_replace |
| 14:46 | kf | aha |
| 14:46 | thx | |
| 14:46 | :) | |
| 14:47 | slef | mysql manual is http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/index.html |
| 14:47 | kf: if you're coding, mbalmer will tell you off if that's a mysqlism | |
| 14:47 | ;) | |
| 14:47 | kf | missing the obvious again |
| 14:47 | slef: no, only need it to clean up some barcodes | |
| 14:47 | slef | (quite rightly) |
| 14:47 | kf | to make the barcode autogeneration work |
| 14:48 | we have a mix of - and / | |
| 14:48 | and it doesn't like that | |
| 14:49 | oleonard | I've found the mysql docs to be full of mysqlisms |
| 14:51 | kf | slef++ |
| 14:51 | it works very nicely :) | |
| 14:51 | and so easy | |
| 14:52 | I was scared I would have to fiddle around with substrings and the like | |
| 14:53 | chris_n | oleonard: LOL |
| 14:54 | bad habit they have there | |
| 15:08 | mbalmer | slef, I guess for most function calls we can either find a neutral form, and if not, we add it to C4::DBQ. |
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| 15:32 | paul_p | passed QA list => Zarro bugs found ! signed-off list => 5 bugs found ! we need ppl signoff to feed the QA team & RM :D :D ... |
| 15:35 | slef | paul_p: and the link to Needs Signoff is in the footer of http://bugs.koha-community.org/ |
| 15:35 | paul_p | yep. 83 ! |
| 15:36 | slef | I can't help with bug 7619 because I am in the wrong country ;) |
| 15:36 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , 3M self checkout don't work in France |
| 15:36 | paul_p | a few of them being tricky, and waiting since more than 2 months |
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| 15:37 | paul_p | slef not at all ! you can help by testing if your GB self checkout still work after applying the patch or not. that's the question I want to have an answer to for now. |
| 15:37 | slef | ah I've already been breaking papa's balls on one bug. I think I will look for easy ones next ! |
| 15:37 | paul_p: will need to wait for me to be on site and have time | |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | paul_p: I think that happens only on the newest updated 3M software |
| 15:41 | nengard | git help please :) |
| 15:41 | how do revert the last commit? | |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | on one file? |
| 15:42 | gmcharlt | nengard: git revert HEAD |
| 15:42 | to revert the entire last commit | |
| 15:42 | kf | if you want to keep te changes you could do a git reset --soft HEAD^ |
| 15:42 | paul_p | and if you want to discard all git reset --hard HEAD^ |
| 15:43 | * wizzyrea | was going to suggest git checkout <file>, but that would be similar to a reset hard. |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | in other words, Git is actually Perl - TMTOWTDI |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | worse, really |
| 15:43 | didn't know about revert, thanks gmcharlt :) | |
| 15:43 | nengard | even if the commit has been pushed? |
| 15:43 | gmcharlt | now if you're talking about revert a commit in a branch that you've published -- then do it via git revert |
| 15:44 | nengard | i broke the manual :) |
| 15:44 | slef | wahanui: TMTOWTDI? |
| 15:44 | wahanui | i think TMTOWTDI is there's more than one way to do it |
| 15:44 | slef | :) |
| 15:44 | gmcharlt | nengard: right - in that case, definitely revert, then push |
| 15:47 | nengard | thanks! |
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| 16:01 | nengard | question about new SubscriptionDuplicateDroppedInput preference (I know I can test- but thought I'd ask first) |
| 16:01 | the description isn't clear to me | |
| 16:01 | what happens to the fields I put in there? | |
| 16:02 | they aren't duplciated? or they are? and what table does it look for fields in? | |
| 16:02 | subscription I assume | |
| 16:07 | figured it out i think :) | |
| 16:09 | paul_p | nengard they aren't duplicated |
| 16:09 | nengard | thanks |
| 16:09 | that's what i foudn | |
| 16:09 | found | |
| 16:09 | and it's the subscription table | |
| 16:09 | in the DB | |
| 16:10 | paul_p | yep |
| 16:10 | for me it's family time now ! see you tomorrow #koha ! | |
| 16:11 | nengard | see ya! |
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| 17:09 | slef | @query libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl |
| 17:09 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
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| 17:12 | slef | anyone else think that's a missing build-depends? |
| 17:13 | libsysguy joined #koha | |
| 17:13 | slef | eythian: can you add libdatetime-format-dateparse-perl to Build-Depends, or shall I do the bug shuffle? |
| 17:13 | @seen eythian | |
| 17:13 | huginn | slef: eythian was last seen in #koha 12 hours, 39 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: * eythian is off home. Got to go sign a lease, pay bond, pay deposit, etc. |
| 17:14 | libsysguy | slef is that the dep for hourly? |
| 17:14 | slef | libsysguy: seems like a mainstream dep |
| 17:14 | libsysguy | ok i was jw, I saw where builds kept fialing |
| 17:14 | failing** | |
| 17:15 | slef | oooh, build fails |
| 17:15 | jenkins_koha: status | |
| 17:15 | jenkins_koha | status of all projects: |
| 17:15 | 3_6_Packages: last build: 7 (3 days 15 hr ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/3_6_Packages/7/ | |
| 17:15 | Koha_3.2.x: last build: 36 (3 mo 26 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.2.x/36/ | |
| 17:15 | Koha_3.4.x: last build: 80 (1 mo 7 days ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.4.x/80/ | |
| 17:15 | Koha_3.6.x: last build: 44 (24 days ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.6.x/44/ | |
| 17:15 | Koha_Docs: last build: 41 (57 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]job/Koha_Docs/41/ | |
| 17:15 | Koha_master: last build: 688 (3 hr 42 min ago): UNSTABLE: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/688/ | |
| 17:15 | Master_Packages: last build: 22 (7 hr 10 min ago): SUCCESS: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ster_Packages/22/ | |
| 17:15 | libsysguy | looks better now :p |
| 17:17 | rangi | No check console output master can't build packages |
| 17:18 | slef | @query libreadonly-perl |
| 17:18 | that's missing too | |
| 17:18 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Hourly Loans |
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| 17:22 | rangi | There is a module that has a create dbh call in the begin block. Breaks the tests when building packages plus the dependencies |
| 17:22 | tcohen | anyone knows what is that apache2 package in the catalyst debian repo about? |
| 17:22 | slef | so package-building is currently hopeless? |
| 17:23 | rangi | On master yes needs 2 fixes |
| 17:23 | Both easy | |
| 17:23 | Tcohen: you don't need the catalyst repo | |
| 17:24 | slef | C4/Barcodes/hbyymmincr.pm and C4/External/BakerTaylor.pm ? |
| 17:24 | point me at the bug or fix and let's get it to paul_p | |
| 17:24 | tcohen | rangi: what about the perl packages? |
| 17:24 | (hi rangi) | |
| 17:25 | rangi | It's all in mainline koha |
| 17:25 | Slef can't easily on phone will when I get to a computer | |
| 17:26 | tcohen | rangi: there are unmet dependencies |
| 17:26 | slef | rangi: ok, I'm out this evening. I'll return to this tomorrow. |
| 17:26 | rangi | But Jenkins tells u if u look at console output |
| 17:26 | slef | rangi: but I'll read logs in the morning |
| 17:26 | yeah I looked at that | |
| 17:26 | it's where I got those filenames from | |
| 17:27 | rangi | It's not them its to do with heading:: something |
| 17:28 | IIRC | |
| 17:28 | slef | C4::Heading::UNIMARC? |
| 17:28 | rangi | Yeah that |
| 17:28 | wahanui | i think Yeah that is fine as it is |
| 17:28 | rangi | Or marc21 |
| 17:28 | slef | wahanui: die! |
| 17:28 | wahanui | errrrgh arrrrgh stop it that tickles a bit! |
| 17:30 | rangi | Tcohen: in 3.6.x ? |
| 17:30 | slef | any pointers on the fix? |
| 17:30 | rangi | All of them are in squeeze |
| 17:30 | tcohen | i'm testing squeeze stable koha-common on Ubuntu Lucid |
| 17:30 | slef | @query C4::Heading::UNIMARC |
| 17:30 | huginn | slef: 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:30 | tcohen | and ge tunmet dependencies |
| 17:31 | rangi | Slef: it doesn't need to be in the begin |
| 17:31 | Could be in the init sub instead | |
| 17:32 | slef | moving them, sending followup patch to 7284, reopening it |
| 17:32 | rangi | Tcohen: lucid is old. Check the wiki for it. You will need to find the packages in the multiverse |
| 17:33 | tcohen | i cannot find them |
| 17:33 | they are in catalyst's repo | |
| 17:33 | rangi | Look at the koha wiki |
| 17:33 | tcohen | we are waiting for 12.04 to move forward |
| 17:34 | thanks rangi | |
| 17:34 | rangi | Ppl have packages on lucid working |
| 17:35 | tcohen | before i end working on koha (hope i dont) i'll manage to invite you a beer |
| 17:35 | slef | ok, building this again now, but leaving keyboard |
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| 17:39 | jcamins_away | tcohen: I've installed via packages on Lucid. |
| 17:40 | Actually, I had a Puppet config to take care of that. | |
| 17:40 | tcohen | following the wiki for lucid? |
| 17:41 | don't know what it is | |
| 17:41 | jcamins_away | tcohen: yes, plus there are a few additional dependencies now, but I think they're mostly packaged. |
| 17:41 | Puppet is a configuration management system. | |
| 17:41 | tcohen | oh, gonna take a look at it |
| 17:41 | jcamins_away | The wiki is pretty good, though. |
| 17:42 | There are a few things that look like misspellings but aren't, though, as I recall. | |
| 17:45 | tcohen | jcamins_away: thanks, already installed, going forward to test it |
| 17:45 | got to update from 3.0.x to 3.6 so... | |
| 17:45 | jcamins_away | Heh. That'll be fun. |
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| 17:57 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:00 | oleonard | wb cait |
| 18:00 | cait | hi oleonard :) |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | anybody got a copy of master running? |
| 18:03 | jcamins_away | Not here. |
| 18:03 | libsysguy | I am getting the "Checked out from" field is always blank on the patron details page |
| 18:03 | magnus_afk | libsysguy: head.bibkat.no |
| 18:03 | wahanui | it has been said that head.bibkat.no is up to date as of right now - login: demo/demo |
| 18:04 | magnus_afk | ooh, thanks wahanui |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | magnus_afk: do you have a cronjob that pulls every hour or something? |
| 18:04 | libsysguy | gracias |
| 18:04 | magnus_afk | well, "right now" is an exaggeration |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away: it pulls every night (my night, that is) | |
| 18:04 | jcamins_away | Ah. |
| 18:05 | magnus_afk | my thought was that it should pull when the rm is sleeping :-) |
| 18:05 | cait | :) |
| 18:05 | magnuse++ | |
| 18:05 | * magnus_afk | wanders off again |
| 18:06 | libsysguy | magnus++ |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away: I was going to ask if you saw the advanced search page for my opac when you were poking around | |
| 18:07 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: I don't think I did. |
| 18:08 | libsysguy | http://catalog.uttyler.edu/cgi[…]ha/opac-search.pl |
| 18:08 | I 86-ed that table of item types | |
| 18:08 | and made it a list | |
| 18:08 | jcamins_away | Whoah! |
| 18:09 | * jcamins_away | likes! |
| 18:09 | libsysguy | all with jquery |
| 18:09 | i was pretty proud of myself | |
| 18:18 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 18:18 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #181: "*oleonard imagines perlcritic level Ebert and perlcritic level Siskel *jcamins imagines perlcritic levels Statler and Waldorf." (added by wizzyrea at 05:52 PM, January 13, 2012) |
| 18:18 | wizzyrea | hehehe that's a good one |
| 18:18 | jcamins_away | Hehe. |
| 18:20 | libsysguy | does anyone know if there is a database cleanup script? |
| 18:21 | old patrons, tmp data, etc | |
| 18:21 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: there is. |
| 18:21 | It's in misc/cronjobs | |
| 18:23 | libsysguy | and there it is…dunno why I didn't think to look there |
| 18:27 | i just dumped my db for a backup and it was right at 5 gigs…is that about right? | |
| 18:28 | jcamins_away | That seems a bit high. |
| 18:28 | (considering the size of your library) | |
| 18:28 | libsysguy | I have right under 300K biblios, and about 6000 patrons |
| 18:28 | not all of them have been in to use the library but I just import them with a feed | |
| 18:29 | jcamins_away | That seems large. wizzyrea's DB is, what, 7GB, and they have a lot of statistics in it. |
| 18:30 | libsysguy | im just trying to figure out what might be eating up all that space |
| 18:30 | jcamins_away | Uncleaned imports? |
| 18:30 | libsysguy | I would be willing to bet the people importing aren't cleaning them |
| 18:30 | * jcamins_away | too. |
| 18:30 | * libsysguy | goes to look |
| 18:31 | smh | |
| 18:31 | libsysguy | 9 pages of uncleaned imports |
| 18:31 | jcamins_away | That'll be part of it. |
| 18:32 | If you're storing sessions in MySQL, and haven't been cleaning them out, that'll be part of it, too. | |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | actionlogs? |
| 18:32 | libsysguy | ok, the cleanup script should get the session |
| 18:32 | i dumped and am going to import to my test db and clean it up | |
| 18:32 | to make sure I don't break anything | |
| 18:32 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: the data only goes back a year. |
| 18:32 | wizzyrea | still, lots can get stuffed into actionlogs. |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | what are the actionlogs... |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | ours was 11 with actionlogs. |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | forgive my still newbness |
| 18:33 | wizzyrea | every time you do something, if you have logging on, it logs it in actionlogs. |
| 18:33 | add a patron, remove a patron, add a bib/item, delete a bib/item | |
| 18:33 | edit a patron | |
| 18:33 | edit an item | |
| 18:33 | etc. | |
| 18:33 | libsysguy | yup…logging is on for sure |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: if NEKLS had 6GB of actionlogs, after... four years? I don't see how UT Tyler could have anything really significant in one year. |
| 18:34 | I mean, yeah, it'll take up some space, but that's a heck of a lot of actions. | |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | certainly they could have 1 or two though |
| 18:34 | libsysguy | yeah and every gig counts :p |
| 18:34 | jcamins_away | Yeah, that's true. |
| 18:34 | magnus_afk | sessions in the db can take up a lot of space! |
| 18:34 | wizzyrea | sessions are another biggie |
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| 18:35 | * jcamins_away | is betting on sessions and uncleaned imports. |
| 18:35 | jcamins_away | Uncleaned imports basically *triple* the space required for one record. |
| 18:35 | libsysguy | ill run the cleanup script |
| 18:35 | is there a quick way to run the cleans | |
| 18:35 | without having to click clean for each import | |
| 18:36 | jcamins_away | Hmm... not that I know of.` |
| 18:36 | libsysguy | well that'll give me something to do when zebra is rebuilding lol |
| 18:36 | jcamins_away | The entire time, yeah. |
| 18:36 | libsysguy | heh |
| 18:36 | poor zebra | |
| 18:37 | it just wants a friend…named solr :p | |
| 18:40 | slef | that's an abusive relationship! |
| 18:40 | bbml | |
| 18:41 | cait | perhaps a girlfriend? |
| 18:41 | lucy | |
| 18:42 | libsysguy | maybe just some chocolate |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | Mmm. Chocolate. |
| 18:45 | Green tea chocolate. | |
| 18:45 | Green tea chocolate fudge. | |
| 18:46 | That could be really good. | |
| 18:48 | rangi | zomgwtf |
| 18:48 | jcamins_away | rangi: You don't like green tea? |
| 18:48 | * rangi | chokes under a cloud of impulse |
| 18:49 | rangi | Caught the bus full of school kids |
| 18:50 | No! Don't spray more | |
| 18:50 | wizzyrea | oh dear |
| 18:51 | * rangi | contemplates a dive roll out the window |
| 18:51 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 18:53 | oleonard | rangi: You'll arrive to work smelling bus-fresh? |
| 18:53 | rangi | Like a 14 year old |
| 18:54 | oleonard | Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" |
| 18:55 | wizzyrea | @quote add oleonard: Everyone will be all, "Wow, that guys smells like he really wishes he could have sex!" |
| 18:55 | huginn | wizzyrea: The operation succeeded. Quote #194 added. |
| 18:55 | rangi | Heh |
| 18:55 | * jcamins_away | thinks that's going to raise some eyebrows in a few months. |
| 18:55 | oleonard | Now when that quote comes up randomly I can try to insist I was talking about Zebra. |
| 18:59 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 18:59 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 9.0°C (7:00 AM NZDT on March 30, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:59 | oleonard | @wunder 45701 |
| 18:59 | huginn | oleonard: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 17.0°C (2:50 PM EDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 18:59 | wizzyrea | zebra really *does* wish he could have sex. With solr. |
| 19:00 | rangi | Cloudy my butt |
| 19:00 | gmcharlt | what would the love child of *that* union look like? |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | @wunder lawrence, ks |
| 19:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: The current temperature in Channel 6 Downtown, Lawrence, Kansas is 25.8°C (2:00 PM CDT on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 18.0°C. Pressure: 29.76 in 1008 hPa (Falling). |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | shiny happy zebras holding hands? |
| 19:00 | rangi | It's blue skies and crisp gonna be nice |
| 19:00 | oleonard | Whoa, wizzyrea, summer in KS eh? |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | jeez, nearly. |
| 19:00 | * wizzyrea | remembers it's march |
| 19:00 | wizzyrea | OMG |
| 19:01 | rangi | For 2 more days |
| 19:04 | magnus_afk | @wunder boo |
| 19:04 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (8:50 PM CEST on March 29, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.42 in 996 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:06 | libsysguy | @quote random |
| 19:06 | huginn | libsysguy: Quote #188: "oleonard: 64-bit IE9, for when you want to surf the web in a *powerfully* bad browser." (added by sekjal at 07:22 PM, February 24, 2012) |
| 19:08 | oleonard | That quote has held up well. |
| 19:08 | * oleonard | glares at IE9 |
| 19:08 | libsysguy | heh id rather deal with IE 9 than IE 7 or 8 |
| 19:14 | * libsysguy | just overflowed the lock table size in mysql :-/ |
| 19:14 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: the lock table size? |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | yeah i got this message The total number of locks exceeds the lock table size |
| 19:15 | jcamins_away | What are you doing? |
| 19:15 | libsysguy | running the cleanup script |
| 19:16 | and eating a sandwich | |
| 19:16 | but i guess that is irrelevant to the error…or is it | |
| 19:16 | lol | |
| 19:16 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 19:16 | Increase the InnoDB buffer size. | |
| 19:16 | Then run the cleanup script again. | |
| 19:16 | libsysguy | yeah thats what I just did…waiting to see if it crashes again |
| 19:16 | i couldn't find that entry in my.cnf | |
| 19:17 | so I just added it | |
| 19:17 | oh it says its done | |
| 19:17 | maybe that was the trick | |
| 19:17 | jcamins_away | You should switch to storing sessions in memcached. |
| 19:17 | * rangi | munches on his hot cross bun and drinks his flat white |
| 19:18 | * libsysguy | would have to set up memcache |
| 19:18 | * wizzyrea | cries |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | j/k |
| 19:18 | kinda. | |
| 19:18 | jcamins_away | It's not as bad as wizzyrea makes it out to be. |
| 19:18 | rangi | libsysguy: its very easy |
| 19:18 | wizzyrea | no, about the hot cross buns and flat whites. |
| 19:18 | libsysguy | oh well then |
| 19:18 | rangi | ahh |
| 19:18 | i think technically im a week early | |
| 19:19 | libsysguy | would I have to rebuild koha or just alter the .conf file? |
| 19:19 | wizzyrea | probably - palm sunday is this week |
| 19:19 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: just alter the koha-httpd.conf file. |
| 19:19 | libsysguy | ok *phew* |
| 19:19 | I thought about setting up a dedicated mysql server seperate from Koha | |
| 19:20 | so see if that would speed it up a bit | |
| 19:20 | * jcamins_away | didn't realize that hot cross buns were something other than a song. ;) |
| 19:20 | libsysguy | maybe one server for writes and one for reads |
| 19:20 | oleonard | You know, buns. With a hot cross. |
| 19:22 | rangi | libsysguy: seriously you take about 30writes/sec off the db |
| 19:22 | when you shift sessions | |
| 19:22 | libsysguy | oh wow |
| 19:22 | rangi | and thats under moderate load |
| 19:22 | anytime anyone does anything | |
| 19:22 | libsysguy | ok, well i may work on getting that set up |
| 19:23 | rangi | sessions change |
| 19:23 | libsysguy | is there a wiki for config? |
| 19:23 | rangi | hmm not sure |
| 19:23 | libsysguy | wiki session? |
| 19:23 | darn | |
| 19:23 | i was sure the bot had some info | |
| 19:23 | rangi | but its not bad |
| 19:23 | sudo apt-get install memcached | |
| 19:23 | libsysguy | ok I'll give it a go |
| 19:23 | rangi | and the perl module |
| 19:23 | lib something something session-perl :) | |
| 19:24 | its on debian.koha-community.org | |
| 19:24 | then edit the config | |
| 19:24 | libsysguy | heh its always something long |
| 19:24 | and then just alter the conf file | |
| 19:24 | rangi | <memcached_servers>127.0.0.1:11211</memcached_servers> |
| 19:24 | <memcached_namespace>KOHA</memcached_namespace> | |
| 19:24 | something like that | |
| 19:24 | and then switch the syspref | |
| 19:24 | make sure you try it on staging first | |
| 19:25 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 19:25 | rangi | it also means it cleans up after itself |
| 19:25 | no stale sessions filling up the table :) | |
| 19:25 | * libsysguy | likes it when a server knows how to wipe its own…well you know |
| 19:25 | jcamins_away | wahanui: search memcached |
| 19:25 | wahanui | jcamins_away: what? |
| 19:25 | jcamins_away | rangi: I thought we pulled the memcached configuration out of koha-conf.xml and put it into environment variables? |
| 19:26 | magnus_afk | libsysguy: i forgot to mention: you could just have truncated the sessions table - much faster than running the script on it |
| 19:26 | * magnus_afk | wanders off to make waffels |
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| 19:27 | libsysguy | heh thanks magnus_afk |
| 19:27 | rangi | oh in master yeah |
| 19:27 | sorry i always assume ppl are running stable | |
| 19:27 | jcamins_away | rangi: everyone other than libsysguy and chris_n is. :P |
| 19:27 | libsysguy | never runs a stable version :p |
| 19:27 | likes life on the edge | |
| 19:28 | chris_n | stable? what's that? |
| 19:28 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 19:28 | rangi | so yeah those things need to be in your apache config, not the koha-conf.xml |
| 19:28 | accept the syspref of course | |
| 19:28 | assuming of course someone has made the changes consistently | |
| 19:29 | * rangi | checks |
| 19:30 | libsysguy | yeah i see it in koha-httpd.conf |
| 19:31 | jcamins_away | It looks like SetEnv memcached_servers whatever, I think. |
| 19:32 | libsysguy | yeah, ok got it switched over |
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| 19:37 | cait | wizzyrea: around? |
| 19:37 | wizzyrea | yep, sup |
| 19:38 | cait | need your help :) |
| 19:38 | wizzyrea | shoot |
| 19:39 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: I think to clean those records I can just call the cleanbatch function from in a script with the batchid |
| 19:39 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: yeah, that would make sense. |
| 19:39 | libsysguy | there are over 200 so its worth my time to find out |
| 19:40 | lol, thats a lot of clicking | |
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| 19:42 | rangi | libsysguy: you should test that new batch improvement thingy |
| 19:42 | but not live :) | |
| 19:43 | libsysguy | is it pushed or needs signed off? |
| 19:43 | rangi | needs signoff |
| 19:43 | apparently makes it a zillion times faster | |
| 19:44 | libsysguy | bug 7486? |
| 19:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7486 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED INVALID, empty columns (call number, barcode) on holds tab |
| 19:44 | libsysguy | bug 7846** |
| 19:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7846 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dpavlin, Needs Signoff , get_batch_summary massive speedup |
| 19:46 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: for the record the cleanup script only took off about 300 meg |
| 19:47 | ill see what happens after i clean up all the imports | |
| 19:47 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: yeah, I didn't think you could have *that much* in the sessions table. |
| 19:47 | You would've noticed the slowdown if you did. | |
| 19:47 | libsysguy | well sessions are running on memcached now |
| 19:48 | the cleanup script i wrote is taking awhile though | |
| 19:48 | maybe its deleting a bunch | |
| 19:48 | * libsysguy | hopes |
| 19:55 | oleonard | Worst part of setting up a new Koha install: getting Zebra to work and getting holds to work |
| 19:55 | Why can't holds just work?! | |
| 19:55 | * jcamins_away | has often wondered that. But they sure don't. |
| 19:55 | oleonard | The worst part is not getting any information about why you can't place holds |
| 19:55 | libsysguy | holds don't work? |
| 19:55 | out of the box | |
| 19:55 | oleonard | "No copies are available to be placed on hold" except for the copes which are available, I can see them right there |
| 19:56 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: no, you never noticed that? |
| 19:56 | libsysguy | no I haven't |
| 19:56 | but then again I don't actually check out books | |
| 19:56 | i just torrent them | |
| 19:57 | cait | oleonard: maxreserves and a defaultdefaultdefault rule set? |
| 19:57 | oleonard | Yes, both |
| 19:59 | cait | hmm |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | independant branches? |
| 20:02 | oleonard | No |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | hmm. MaxReserves? |
| 20:02 | wahanui | MaxReserves is, like, very useful |
| 20:03 | libsysguy | jcamins_away: cleaning up those imports reduced the db size to 1.6 gigs |
| 20:03 | holy moly | |
| 20:03 | jcamins_away | Who called it? |
| 20:03 | :) | |
| 20:04 | libsysguy | jcamins_away is the man :p |
| 20:04 | jcamins++ | |
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| 20:09 | cait | wizzyrea++ |
| 20:15 | Brooke joined #koha | |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:16 | Brooke | cheers |
| 20:16 | Friday? | |
| 20:16 | wahanui | Friday is It's Friday, Friday Gotta get down on Friday |
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| 20:34 | * jcamins_away | becomes really away instead of just _away |
| 20:34 | cait | ooh |
| 20:34 | pizza? | |
| 20:34 | wahanui | i think pizza is in the oven. |
| 21:06 | maximep left #koha | |
| 21:11 | Topic for #koha is now Happy Friday NZ | |
| 21:22 | Brooke | @later tell Space_Librarian scandalous Mozart theme continues. http://www.kennedy-center.org/wno/ |
| 21:22 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:26 | * magnus_afk | wishes #koha a good night |
| 21:27 | cait | good night magnuse :) |
| 21:27 | good night #koha | |
| 21:27 | :) | |
| 21:28 | rangi | night cait and magnus_away |
| 21:29 | magnus_away | :-) |
| 21:30 | cait left #koha | |
| 21:43 | libsysguy | rangi did you see what I told jcamins_away about the database size? |
| 21:43 | all the space was being hogged up my uncleaned imports….3.5 gig | |
| 21:43 | rangi | yeah, that'd do it |
| 21:45 | yay! | |
| 21:45 | http://perlbuzz.com/2012/03/ne[…]tml-entities.html | |
| 21:46 | libsysguy | awesome |
| 21:47 | rangi | might have to add that into xt/ |
| 22:05 | dpavlin++ | |
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| 22:34 | rangi | !jenkins build Koha_Master now |
| 22:34 | jenkins_koha | rangi: job Koha_Master build scheduled now |
| 22:34 | Starting build #689 for job Koha_master (previous build: UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #687 13 hr ago) | |
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| 23:07 | melia | question about notices |
| 23:07 | can I add <<items.content>> to the preduedgst instead of just the <<count>> of items due? or will that not work? | |
| 23:22 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 23:22 | Project Koha_master build #689: FIXED in 48 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/689/ | |
| 23:22 | rangi | not sure sorry melia |
| 23:23 | melia | that's ok rangi. I'll just try it and see what happens. :) |
| 23:23 | libsysguy | when things get checked in, it just calls AddReturn right? |
| 23:23 | rangi | i think so libsysguy |
| 23:23 | libsysguy | ok cool, thanks rangi |
| 23:31 | rangi if you are around can you search cpan? | |
| 23:31 | rangi | for? |
| 23:31 | or just in general | |
| 23:31 | http://search.cpan.org/ | |
| 23:31 | libsysguy | in general |
| 23:32 | yeah its showing up as down for me | |
| 23:32 | rangi | hmm works for me |
| 23:32 | libsysguy | weird |
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