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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:03 | melia left #koha | |
| 00:08 | sekjal | okay, the QAQ is well under control... moving on to the Needs Signoff bugs |
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| 00:18 | rangi | libsysguy_dinner: giving them all nice bug 5549 : |
| 00:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, tdavis, Failed QA , Hourly Loans |
| 00:18 | rangi | commit messages too |
| 00:18 | so that its much easier to debug/check | |
| 00:19 | all flu jabbed, back into it | |
| 00:23 | jcamins | Hehe. |
| 00:23 | I forgot I used the word "agitas" in a commit message. | |
| 00:24 | That was a nice commit message. | |
| 00:28 | * sekjal | is losing steam |
| 00:28 | jcamins | sekjal: I'll find a nice easy one for you. |
| 00:29 | Bug 7702. | |
| 00:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7702 minor, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Test for C4::Heading::MARC21 should only run under MARC21 |
| 00:29 | eythian_bucklame | jcamins: apparently he wants something steamy |
| 00:29 | jcamins | Bug 7617 isn't too difficult either. |
| 00:29 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7617 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority search results should optionally be sorted by system order |
| 00:29 | jcamins | eythian_bucklame: hmm. |
| 00:29 | eythian_bucklame | "Add a default XXX item type" or something perhaps |
| 00:30 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:30 | You could offer your opinion on bug 7065 or bug 4045. | |
| 00:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key |
| 00:30 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. | |
| 00:31 | sekjal | jcamins: I think this will have to be the last. I'm feeling like I did right before I broke Circulation for day |
| 00:31 | jcamins | Fair enough. |
| 00:32 | eythian_bucklame | sekjal: so you're suggesting implementing a random "fall back to paper" mode, to keep people on their toes? :) |
| 00:32 | libsysguy | im baaaacccckkk :) for a second |
| 00:33 | sekjal | for 7702: shouldn't a MARC21 only test only work for MARC21, not just 'not UNIMARC'? |
| 00:33 | jcamins | eythian_bucklame: ooh, Voyager has that! |
| 00:33 | eythian_bucklame | haha. So does Liberty apparently. |
| 00:33 | sekjal | eythian_bucklame: huh? which what and the who now? |
| 00:34 | jcamins | sekjal: possibly. It works properly with NORMARC, so rather than messing with magnuse's domain, I set it to not UNIMARC. |
| 00:34 | eythian_bucklame | sekjal: break circulation for a day so that librarians don't forget how to do it manually |
| 00:34 | sekjal | eythian_bucklame: ah, yes, that... |
| 00:34 | yes | |
| 00:34 | that was the plan | |
| 00:34 | rangi | sekjal: ... did you want all the release notes removed? because thats what this patch from libsysguy does |
| 00:35 | sekjal | rangi: that doesn't sound like a good thing |
| 00:35 | rangi | yeah i think ill leave that patch out |
| 00:35 | sekjal | my interest is in making things be consistent |
| 00:35 | either all the release notes, or none of them | |
| 00:35 | libsysguy | ohh i misunderstood |
| 00:36 | * libsysguy | will understand sekjal one day :-/ |
| 00:36 | rangi | i think outside the scope of 5549 |
| 00:36 | jcamins has luckily opened a bug for that already | |
| 00:36 | so i think ill not touch the release notes at all with 5549 | |
| 00:36 | and that one can fix that | |
| 00:36 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 00:36 | so if you're already at that one | |
| 00:36 | sekjal | libsysguy: you're doing awesome... I've been told I'm not the easiest person to communicate with sometimes |
| 00:36 | libsysguy | you've been trucking |
| 00:36 | rangi | yeah im nearly done |
| 00:37 | libsysguy | the curse of the CS degree :p |
| 00:37 | jcamins | I reported a bug about the missing release notes. |
| 00:37 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 00:37 | ok going to spend some time with the gf | |
| 00:37 | bbl | |
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| 00:43 | sekjal | okay, I'm done for the night. looking forward to wrapping up 5549, hopefully tomorrow |
| 00:43 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 00:43 | Have a good night. | |
| 00:43 | And enjoy your conference. | |
| 00:43 | sekjal | thanks, you too |
| 00:44 | (for the night, not necessarily the conference) | |
| 00:44 | (unless you're attending one) | |
| 00:44 | (then I hope it's enjoyable) | |
| 00:44 | jcamins | lol |
| 00:44 | Go to sleep. | |
| 00:44 | sekjal | k |
| 00:44 | night, #koha | |
| 00:47 | rangi | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]heads/merged_5549 |
| 00:47 | done | |
| 00:48 | all apart from the test | |
| 01:01 | talljoy | yo |
| 01:03 | rangi | yo |
| 01:03 | talljoy | what's up? |
| 01:03 | rangi | hourly loans |
| 01:03 | wahanui | hourly loans are indeed on the horizon, that would help you. Patron records can be kept indefinitely (though probably you'd want to archive them periodically |
| 01:03 | talljoy | sweet |
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| 01:16 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 01:18 | jcamins | I heard a rumor that it's your birthday. Is that true? |
| 01:18 | ago43 joined #koha | |
| 01:19 | Oak | :) it's on 21st March |
| 01:19 | jcamins | So tomorrow. |
| 01:20 | Oak | yes. |
| 01:21 | rangi | who wants an easy signoff? |
| 01:22 | bug 7408 | |
| 01:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 01:23 | Oak | I'll do it. But will do it after 5-6 hours. if someone does it before then... okay. |
| 01:26 | i mean i'll talk to cait first, she'll know if should do it or not. someone does it before me, no problem. | |
| 01:28 | rangi | its just a typo fix |
| 01:29 | hmm we need some sample items in the sample data | |
| 01:30 | Oak | in any case... still, at least after an hour from now. electricity is about to go out here. |
| 01:46 | Judit | hi |
| 01:46 | i have something weird here, and couldnt find it in bugzilla | |
| 01:46 | the help pages on the staff client | |
| 01:47 | Template process failed: file error - /home/koha/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/help/.tt: not found at /home/koha/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126. | |
| 01:47 | same happens here: http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
| 01:47 | rangi | all pages or just the mainpage.pl |
| 01:47 | yeah its because that page doesnt have a proper name | |
| 01:47 | Judit | main |
| 01:47 | rangi | click on somethign then go back |
| 01:47 | and it will now work | |
| 01:47 | there is a bug for it | |
| 01:48 | cant remember what it is | |
| 01:48 | Judit | aha |
| 01:48 | works now | |
| 01:48 | thanks | |
| 01:48 | so we have a bug for it | |
| 01:48 | okay then | |
| 01:48 | rangi | its only when you dont have a page |
| 01:48 | ie you are at http://intranet.bywatersolutions.com/ | |
| 01:48 | not | |
| 01:48 | http://intranet.bywatersolutio[…]/koha/mainpage.pl | |
| 01:48 | Judit | i see |
| 01:49 | rangi | so it doesnt know which help file to show |
| 01:49 | Judit | fair enough |
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| 05:14 | hdl | @later tell dpavlin some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/20[…]orks-to-psgi.html |
| 05:14 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:15 | hdl | @later tell lducos some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/20[…]orks-to-psgi.html |
| 05:15 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:15 | hdl | @later tell lds some nice reading to go further into PSGI integration into Koha http://advent.plackperl.org/20[…]orks-to-psgi.html |
| 05:15 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:15 | hdl | @later tell dpavlin other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.co[…]ce-td7340344.html |
| 05:15 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:16 | hdl | @later tell lducos other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.co[…]ce-td7340344.html |
| 05:16 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:16 | hdl | @later tell lds other reading :http://git.661346.n2.nabble.co[…]ce-td7340344.html |
| 05:16 | huginn | hdl: The operation succeeded. |
| 05:25 | rangi | Evening |
| 05:26 | Hackfest going well hdl? | |
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| 06:40 | rangi | hmm |
| 06:46 | just had to block another couple of ip from download | |
| 06:49 | mtj | oh really ... ? :/ |
| 06:49 | rangi | i think most likely badly configured software |
| 06:49 | mtj | someone ddos-ing the Koha git server? |
| 06:49 | rangi | naw, you cant do a ddos with 1 ip :) |
| 06:49 | and its the bugs/download server | |
| 06:50 | its most likely just someones download tool being retarded | |
| 06:50 | mtj | heh s/ddos/dos/ :) |
| 06:50 | rangi | downloading almost all of a file, |
| 06:50 | then starting again | |
| 06:51 | no load on the server, but if i 403 it, they might notice and fix it :) | |
| 07:04 | cait | @wunder marseille |
| 07:04 | huginn | cait: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 4.0°C (7:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:04 | cait | hm |
| 07:04 | rangi | @wunder nzwn |
| 07:04 | huginn | rangi: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 12.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:08 | cait | can I come over? |
| 07:10 | rangi | heh its pretty yuck |
| 07:11 | cait | yeah, but warmer! |
| 07:11 | :) | |
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| 07:31 | kmkale | I am migrating a large Koha installation to newer hardware. Is it safe to truncate the sessions table before taking the backup? |
| 07:31 | This table has grown huge | |
| 07:32 | rangi | yep thats safe to do |
| 07:32 | kmkale | thanks rangi :) |
| 07:32 | rangi | there is a cron job you might like to set up on th enew hardware |
| 07:32 | kmkale | the database cleanup one? |
| 07:34 | rangi | yep |
| 07:34 | 16 1 * * * $KOHA_CRON_PATH/cleanup_database.pl --sessions --zebraqueue 10 | |
| 07:34 | also | |
| 07:35 | you can use memcached for sessions | |
| 07:35 | tis much faster, and you dont have those issues anymore :) | |
| 07:35 | there is a syspref for it | |
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| 07:35 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:35 | wahanui | salut, reiveune |
| 07:36 | kmkale | Thanks rangi |
| 07:39 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:44 | kmkale | Namaste magnuse :) |
| 07:44 | magnuse | namaskar kmkale |
| 07:44 | kmkale | got to run. BBL |
| 07:45 | magnuse | yay! http://emillymcleay.com/2011/10/27/thats-brave/ |
| 07:47 | rangi | i actually left a comment on there its still waiting moderation :) |
| 07:47 | magnuse | me too |
| 07:47 | rangi | :) |
| 07:47 | magnuse | bet it's the same comment, more or less :-) |
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| 07:48 | rangi | that its typical of companies that have stopped innovating to use FUD |
| 07:48 | that was the gist of mine | |
| 07:49 | magnuse | ah, ok, mine was there's plenty of support companies to choose from if ever you need one |
| 07:49 | guess we had two different angles then :-) | |
| 07:49 | rangi | :) |
| 07:49 | complementary | |
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| 07:50 | magnuse | yup |
| 07:50 | ah france is waking up | |
| 07:50 | @wunder marseille | |
| 07:50 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 20, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:51 | magnuse | ooh, nice temperature for for sitting in a room full of glowing computers |
| 07:51 | rangi | heh |
| 07:52 | alex_a | bonjour #koha |
| 07:52 | magnuse | bonjour alex_a |
| 07:53 | alex_a | there's no more magnuse's chocolate at biblibre this morning |
| 07:54 | magnuse | awww... |
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| 07:55 | magnuse | i better bring more next year... |
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| 07:58 | mbalmer | bonjour |
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| 08:03 | magnuse | hiya eythian_bucklame and oleonard |
| 08:03 | eythian_bucklame | hi |
| 08:04 | oleonard | Late hour for you eythian_bucklame ? |
| 08:04 | rangi | hi oleonard and eythian_bucklame |
| 08:04 | * oleonard | isn't used to calculating your time from France :) |
| 08:04 | eythian_bucklame | not terribly late, 9pm. Just sitting playing games on my laptop. |
| 08:04 | magnuse | bucklame - the city that never sleeps... |
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| 08:07 | Joubu | hello |
| 08:07 | rangi | hi Joubu |
| 08:07 | magnuse | hiya Joubu |
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| 08:09 | * magnuse | waves to cait and asaurat |
| 08:09 | rangi | hi matts asaurat and cait |
| 08:10 | matts | hi ! |
| 08:10 | cait | hi magnuse and rangi :) |
| 08:11 | asaurat | hi ! |
| 08:14 | clrh | hello |
| 08:14 | wahanui | hi, clrh |
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| 08:15 | rangi | hi Guillaume and clrh |
| 08:16 | clrh | hello rangi |
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| 08:31 | rangi | heya paul_p |
| 08:32 | if you have a sec today, bug 7408 | |
| 08:32 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 08:32 | rangi | there was an error in syspref.sql that breaks new installs |
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| 08:37 | clrh | just for information if you need it: https://github.com/clrh/koha_community |
| 08:37 | mbalmer: if you talk about pm responsability and database layer, please ping me, I am interested to participate | |
| 08:38 | rangi | pm responsibility? |
| 08:39 | mbalmer | clrh, we started. |
| 08:39 | we are in the small box on the left side | |
| 08:41 | hdl | #!/bin/bash |
| 08:41 | SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.f[…]koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log & | |
| 08:42 | SCRIPT_URI=https://catalogue.univ-lyon3.f[…]koha/opac-user.pl PERL5LIB=/home/kohaadmin/src KOHA_CONF=/home/kohaadmin/etc/koha-conf.xml starman -M FindBin --workers 6 --port 5000 --pid /home/kohaadmin/var/run/starman.pid /home/kohaadmin/prod.psgi 2>/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.err >/home/kohaadmin/var/log/starman.log & | |
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| 09:20 | oleonard | I'm not used to talking out loud about Koha more than I type about Koha here |
| 09:21 | cait | :) |
| 09:25 | mbalmer | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL |
| 09:25 | * paul_p | now head to pushing patches... |
| 09:26 | cait | paul_p: :) |
| 09:26 | paul_p | starting with 7724, that should fix jenkns, hopefully |
| 09:27 | magnuse | bug 7724 |
| 09:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up |
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| 09:50 | rangi | http://kohakenya.wordpress.com[…]r-i-p-the-kardex/ |
| 09:56 | * rangi | goes to sleep |
| 09:56 | cait | good night :) |
| 10:02 | hdl | https://github.com/eiro/p5-pla[…]bug/Devel/Size.pm |
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| 10:15 | mveron | Bonjour #koha |
| 10:15 | magnuse | hiya mveron |
| 10:16 | * mveron | Hopes that mbalmer had a good flight an tht he got some Moules mrainières yesterday |
| 10:16 | paul_p | bonjour mveron. mbalmer arrived here, with some swiss chocolates :D |
| 10:16 | dunno about moules marinières ;-) | |
| 10:16 | mveron | dunno? |
| 10:18 | I'm learning git... Checked out Bug 7733, applied, tested, dates are displayed correctly. Next step? | |
| 10:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7733 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , HidePatronName not working on moredetail |
| 10:19 | mveron | sorry, mistaked, bug 7737, should put my glasses... |
| 10:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7737 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , Use of date filters on bookseller pages |
| 10:24 | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]53ddf300c9a64c2a0> | |
| 10:24 | paul_p | magnuse pushing bug 7696 now ;-) |
| 10:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Passed QA , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT |
| 10:27 | magnuse | thanks paul_p! |
| 10:28 | mveron: see http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]gn_off_on_patches | |
| 10:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #662 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 12 j ago) |
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| 10:49 | vfernandes | hi guys |
| 10:49 | mveron | Thanks, magnuse. I followed the steps in http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_bz_configuration. |
| 10:49 | Hope that it is OK like this? | |
| 10:50 | cait | mveron++ :) |
| 10:50 | it looks good to me | |
| 10:51 | vfernandes | today I was doing another installation of Koha to another client and I having some encoding problems |
| 10:51 | cait | ah no |
| 10:51 | the sign-off line is missing | |
| 10:51 | vfernandes | on the opac-MARCDetail |
| 10:51 | cait | mveron: still around? |
| 10:51 | mveron | yes |
| 10:51 | cait | ok |
| 10:51 | I think oyu might have skipped a step or 2 | |
| 10:51 | vfernandes | i'm having also problems on cataloguing pages |
| 10:52 | cait | we could try to figure it out together? |
| 10:52 | vfernandes | anyone had already this problem? |
| 10:52 | cait | vfernandes: pehaps it#s aproblem with your mysql configuration? |
| 10:52 | vfernandes | the encoding of mysql is utf8 |
| 10:53 | mveron | Cait: Can we figure it out in the afternoon? - Should run away for a meeting.. |
| 10:53 | vfernandes | the data on the tables are correct |
| 10:53 | cait | of course |
| 10:53 | mveron: just jump in here | |
| 10:53 | mveron | Thanks. Till later... |
| 10:54 | cait | we might be away for lunch or something, but I am sure someone will be here |
| 10:54 | vfernandes | cait: the same database in another Koha installation as no encoding problems |
| 10:55 | cait | I am not sure |
| 10:55 | there are some hints about encoding on the wiki | |
| 10:55 | perhaps you might want to go and look there | |
| 10:57 | mtj | vfernandes: ... or use debian? |
| 10:58 | vfernandes | ok... i've changed the mysql configuration to a large database but the encoding stills utf8... can this change cause the encoding problem? |
| 10:58 | cait | utf8 is correct |
| 10:59 | vfernandes | mtj i'm using opensuse |
| 11:01 | http://koha.ulusiada.pt/cgi-bi[…]iblionumber=84701 | |
| 11:02 | mtj | vfernandes: load your database into a debian koha... does your encoding problem still exist? |
| 11:04 | vfernandes | I have another installation of Koha on Ubuntu Server where the database is the same but the encoding problem doesn't exist |
| 11:04 | cait | what is your Locale? |
| 11:06 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]cter_Sets_in_Koha | |
| 11:09 | vfernandes | LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8 |
| 11:12 | jcamins_away | 57 unread messages on the Koha lists. |
| 11:12 | mbalmer | amazaing. PostgreSQL layer proof of concept works, including unit tests |
| 11:13 | francharb | 0/ #koha |
| 11:13 | jenkins_koha | Yippie, build fixed! |
| 11:13 | Project Koha_master build #662: FIXED in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/662/ | |
| 11:13 | jcamins: Bug 7724: Skip Linker test if Zebra isn't set up | |
| 11:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7724 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Tests requiring Zebra should be skipped if Zebra isn't set up |
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| 11:14 | vfernandes | the database is fine because it's working in another enviromment |
| 11:14 | jcamins_away | :D No more e-mails from jenkins! |
| 11:15 | vfernandes | could be tmpl or encodings? sometimes SVN changes the encoding |
| 11:15 | cait | yay! |
| 11:15 | jcamins++ | |
| 11:24 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]48bf402482136a367> / Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1abd47980bfef7059> / Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a.git;a=commitdif |
| 11:25 | vfernandes | i don't know what to do more :/ |
| 11:28 | more information | |
| 11:28 | opac-detail.pl charset: utf8 | |
| 11:28 | opac-MARCDetail.pl charset: us-ascii | |
| 11:31 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #663 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
| 11:32 | vfernandes | i'm driving crazy :/ |
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| 11:48 | oleonard | Cheese for lunch! |
| 11:48 | magnuse | woot! |
| 11:48 | and probably french cheese at that? :-) | |
| 11:48 | oleonard | Time to be jealous, everyone! |
| 11:48 | magnuse | you bet! |
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| 12:13 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #663: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/663/ |
| 12:13 | * kyle: Bug 7526 - longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron | |
| 12:13 | * magnus: Bug 7696 - NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT | |
| 12:13 | * julian.maurice: Bug 6440: Implement OAI-PMH Sets | |
| 12:13 | * oleonard: Bug 7719 - Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked | |
| 12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7526 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Pushed to Master , longoverdue.pl leaves items marked as lost as still checked out to patron |
| 12:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7696 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Pushed to Master , NORMARC lacks staff results XSLT | |
| 12:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Master , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets | |
| 12:13 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7719 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Change state of controls based on whether boxes are checked | |
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| 12:18 | mtj | vfernandes: why not use ubuntu/debian, and not opensuse... problem solved? |
| 12:18 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 12:18 | hello cait :) | |
| 12:19 | me go now | |
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| 12:32 | sekjal | morning, #koha |
| 12:33 | mbalmer | a bit of docs on the PostgreSQL stuff Stephan and I worked on this morning: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL |
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| 12:36 | asaurat | death by cheese |
| 12:37 | magnuse | asaurat: sounds like lovely way to go :-) |
| 12:38 | asaurat | indeed :D |
| 12:38 | magnuse | @later tell wizzyrea http://librarygame.co.uk/ |
| 12:38 | huginn | magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
| 12:39 | sekjal | paul_p: I'm going to finish testing the improvements to Hourly Loans today |
| 12:39 | I think rangi and libsysguy addressed everything I had found problematic | |
| 12:40 | paul_p | hi sekjal. 3 librarians are playing with it this afternoon at the hackfest (on sandbox 6) |
| 12:40 | sekjal | paul_p: great! |
| 12:40 | the more librarians, the better. they may find hidden strangeness I wouldn't otherwise find | |
| 12:41 | * cait | waves :) |
| 12:42 | sekjal | hi, cait! |
| 12:43 | * sekjal | is in his all-day Usability workshop, waiting for it to all begin |
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| 12:47 | hdl | https://docs.google.com/a/bibl[…]c2pIa25IQ1E#gid=0 |
| 12:48 | www.foxtons.co.uk | |
| 13:02 | slef | hdl: you like estate agents? |
| 13:04 | sekjal | workshop is starting... |
| 13:05 | edveal | Anyone know how to go about changing the text in the class "dialog alert" for when a patrons card is about to expire? |
| 13:05 | hdl | slef: just asked on #plack for a site using plack |
| 13:07 | oleonard | edveal, OPAC or intranet? |
| 13:07 | edveal | oleonard OPAC? |
| 13:07 | jcamins_away | I want to buy some cheese! |
| 13:08 | * jcamins_away | stops channelling Monty Python, and gets ready to go. |
| 13:08 | oleonard | edveal, I don't see an easy way to do that. It would be a nice enhancement to add unique IDs to each error message generated by the template |
| 13:09 | edveal | That was what I thought. |
| 13:09 | oleonard | Pending that you'd have to do a brute-force search for div.alert > span [starts with="your card..."] (that's just a diagram, not real syntax) |
| 13:09 | It's possible if clumsy. | |
| 13:12 | edveal | Thanks oleonard, I will not be spending a great deal of time on this. Just wanted confirmation that I was right. |
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| 13:18 | alaquerre | Good morning #Koha. Is there any reason why when we do writeoff, the table accountlines dont save the itemnumber ? Because of that, it's really hard to read a user account because you dont really know where the writeoff is tie to. |
| 13:20 | sekjal | alaquerre: probably no reason, no... the whole Accounts area of Koha has grown very organically |
| 13:21 | oleonard | sekjal, That's a generous way to put it ;) |
| 13:22 | alaquerre | :-) okay - Do you see any thing wrong adding this ? ( Any side effect we need to think of ? ) |
| 13:23 | sekjal | alaquerre: you'd have a "cut point" in your data... before it doesn't have itemnumber, after it does... this would need to be factored into the reports you run and the expectations your librarians have |
| 13:25 | alaquerre | sekjal : Well that's a problem we live with right now, so for sure we will be only looking forward. The people really hate this section and is asking for lot's of change. They would like to have "real" user account management tools. Ok, I'll look here on what we can do and share it to the community after that. Thanks. |
| 13:26 | sekjal | alaquerre: any reworking you do, I'd recommend keeping the whole module in mind, and sharing any development plans publicly with the rest of Koha |
| 13:28 | wizzyrea | magnuse: that looks interesting - proprietary though :( |
| 13:28 | alaquerre | sekjal: Don't worry :-), that's my plan. I would like to have the smallest delta we can have against the community. |
| 13:29 | sekjal | alaquerre: great :) |
| 13:29 | alaquerre | All right, again thanks for your input and have a good one. |
| 13:31 | magnuse | wizzyrea: yup :-( |
| 13:33 | alaquerre++ | |
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| 13:33 | JesseM | Morning #koha |
| 13:33 | sekjal | morning, JesseM |
| 13:34 | JesseM | Hey sekjal hows the brew coming? |
| 13:34 | sekjal | bottled, conditioned, and served! |
| 13:34 | had some last weekend | |
| 13:34 | JesseM | very nice |
| 13:34 | sekjal | turned out pretty good.... a little sweet, light on the carbonation |
| 13:34 | easy drinkin' | |
| 13:35 | JesseM | not too bad for a first run at it |
| 13:35 | sekjal | yeah, I'm encouraged. I know what I can do to improve things, so my next run should begin shortly |
| 13:36 | * wizzyrea | conspires a way to try some of sekjal's beer |
| 13:36 | sekjal | wizzyrea: I would totally mail you some if it wasn't illegal |
| 13:37 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 13:37 | guess we'll have to figure a way to get the girl to the brew then. | |
| 13:37 | sekjal | that'd be awesome! |
| 13:37 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 13:38 | sekjal | next batch is going to be an IPA |
| 13:39 | I think those need to condition longer... probably won't be ready until May/June | |
| 13:39 | wizzyrea | ooh IPA |
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| 13:40 | oleonard | Ready to bring to KohaCon sekjal :) |
| 13:41 | I have a question about Bug 6209, having just begun some work on it | |
| 13:41 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6209 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Standardize on one javascript library for client-side form validation |
| 13:43 | mbalmer | who added 'ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelayCharge' to sysprefs.sql?? |
| 13:43 | line 352.. | |
| 13:43 | wizzyrea | git blame? |
| 13:43 | wahanui | git blame is handy, but it's just one tool in our debugging arsenal |
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| 13:43 | sekjal | mbalmer: that was bug 7408 |
| 13:44 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 13:44 | mbalmer | sekjal, at least in .ch we usually terminate sql statements with a ';'… ;P |
| 13:44 | oleonard | While I'm dealing with markup related to required fields, is it time to add the HTML5 "required" attribute? |
| 13:45 | We've already added the nonstandard "autocomplete" attribute in some places | |
| 13:45 | wizzyrea | what does it give us? |
| 13:46 | oleonard | For modern browsers it gives browser-enforced validation of required fields (javascript-independent) |
| 13:46 | wizzyrea | ooo |
| 13:46 | downsides? | |
| 13:47 | (incompatibility with older browsers, for 1, I'm sure) | |
| 13:47 | oleonard | http://www.w3schools.com/html5[…]l5_input_required |
| 13:47 | Older browsers won't enforce it, but they won't break either | |
| 13:47 | wizzyrea | I like that. |
| 13:47 | * wizzyrea | tries it in firefox |
| 13:48 | oleonard | Since I'm proposing to add some consistent JS validation to the staff client older browsers would be covered by that |
| 13:48 | (and newer browsers with JS enabled) | |
| 13:48 | * wizzyrea | taps her toe while firefox updates |
| 13:48 | oleonard | I think validator complaints are really the only downside that I know of at this stage |
| 13:49 | wizzyrea | but it's valid html5, right? |
| 13:49 | it's pretty in firefox too | |
| 13:50 | oleonard | valid html5 yes, just not valid according to our doctype |
| 13:50 | wizzyrea | gotya |
| 13:50 | * oleonard | ignores all questions about converting the templates to html5 |
| 13:50 | maximep | is it possible yet to style html5 validations to look the same in all browsers ? |
| 13:50 | they are so ugly by default :/ | |
| 13:51 | wizzyrea | I didn't think they were particularly ugly. |
| 13:51 | oleonard | maximep, I assume not, but I don't know |
| 13:52 | wizzyrea | first chrome, 2nd firefox |
| 13:52 | http://screencast.com/t/4jIwgzWRfr1 | |
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| 13:54 | oleonard | wizzyrea: And my Firefox looks different than yours too |
| 13:54 | wizzyrea | that was the latest one that auto-update gave me |
| 13:54 | (plus, mac) | |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Anyway, I think the answer is that since validator complaints are the only downside I should proceed until I find otherwise |
| 13:54 | wizzyrea | maximep https://www.ibm.com/developerw[…]ements141?lang=en |
| 13:55 | maximep | looks good in chrome... really incredibly ugly in ff |
| 13:55 | wizzyrea | I actually like it better in firefox - it keeps your eye on the ball |
| 13:55 | "hey idiot, this is the one I was complaining about" | |
| 13:56 | sekjal | mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic |
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| 13:58 | * paul_p | on bug 7408 follow-up now |
| 13:58 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Signed Off , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 14:00 | clrh | mbalmer: you talk me about a poc, did you share it somewhere? |
| 14:01 | oleonard | wizzyrea, Ubuntu Firefox: http://www.screencast.com/t/MLqK5XKn |
| 14:01 | mtj | this is kinda cute -> http://www.educause.edu/NC11/Program/PS06 |
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| 14:01 | * mveron | Waves to mbalmer |
| 14:01 | wizzyrea | still not terrible. |
| 14:02 | mbalmer | clrh, documented on http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PostgreSQL and as code on stephane's pc |
| 14:02 | and hi mveron! | |
| 14:03 | * wizzyrea | does a double take |
| 14:03 | wizzyrea | mtj, are you not sleeping |
| 14:03 | mveron | mbalmer: Everything OK in Marseille? I see you are hard working :-) |
| 14:03 | mbalmer | yes, it is scary ;) |
| 14:04 | mtj | wiz: nope, i'm working on a Koha import - in the wee hours |
| 14:04 | wizzyrea | ahh |
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| 14:11 | oleonard | Nifty... Chrome (and Safari i'll bet) will add custom error text to your "required" message via the title attribute |
| 14:13 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7408' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5331e1e86ee4939d1> / Bug 7408 : Fixing a typo that was breaking the installer <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fa019ee252437b78a> / Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_8250' <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git; |
| 14:16 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #664 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 14:20 | mveron | cait around? |
| 14:22 | cait | hm almost |
| 14:23 | collsk12 | Does anyone have an idea why the Overdue Report will output patron names to the screen, on the staff client, but not to a CSV file? |
| 14:23 | mveron | Do you have ime to figure out my mistakes with signing off? |
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| 14:26 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: hello :) |
| 14:26 | i was discussing patron search with kf just now | |
| 14:26 | cait | mveron: give me 10 mins? |
| 14:26 | I would like to finish this table | |
| 14:27 | mveron | Of course! |
| 14:28 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: my take on it is that we should always use a "contain" search, which would generate some noise but make it easy to find patrons with names like "De Villepin" |
| 14:29 | wizzyrea | which search are you looking at? |
| 14:29 | gaetan_B | at the moment a search for "Villepin" wouldn't bring any result |
| 14:29 | mtj | http://www.educause.edu/sites/[…]06/KohaPoster.pdf |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | are you talking about the search from Patrons or the patron search from the "check out" box |
| 14:30 | they are different | |
| 14:30 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: it works (like i expect it) in circulation.pl, but not in member.pl |
| 14:30 | i think it should be consistent and work in the same way in both | |
| 14:30 | wizzyrea | gaetan_B: I would consider what you propose to be a step in the wrong direction. |
| 14:31 | i.e. my librarians would scream | |
| 14:31 | gaetan_B | hmmm |
| 14:31 | wizzyrea | i'm surprised that you find the villepin doesn't work - 2 and 3 part searching has been working |
| 14:31 | gaetan_B | but how do they manage with patrons with long/composed names ? |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | for example, the test patron I make |
| 14:32 | is first name "Henry James" surname "acevedo III" | |
| 14:32 | gaetan_B | in my instance i have "Benjamin LA JOIE" a search for "joie" doesn't bring any result |
| 14:32 | (in patrons not in circulation) | |
| 14:32 | wizzyrea | and you are using master? |
| 14:32 | * wizzyrea | has not observed this |
| 14:32 | gaetan_B | yes i just updated |
| 14:33 | wizzyrea | I hope no one broke 3 part name searching. |
| 14:33 | that would be not-good | |
| 14:33 | gaetan_B | :-/ |
| 14:35 | wizzyrea | sec checking 3.6.0 |
| 14:36 | our librarians don't like the way it works on the "check out" search | |
| 14:36 | but it doesn't work for finding the last part of a separated surname | |
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| 14:36 | wizzyrea | I don't think making it a contains |
| 14:36 | is a good idea | |
| 14:37 | I think we need to fix the real problem | |
| 14:37 | noise is a real issue when you have lots and lots of patrons | |
| 14:37 | search *has* to be accurate. | |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Anyone else having problems with Bugzilla? |
| 14:37 | wizzyrea | yea, I am now |
| 14:38 | cait | yes it's slow |
| 14:38 | did you break it? | |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | but, you see |
| 14:38 | wahanui just bounced | |
| 14:38 | libsysguy | seen sekjal |
| 14:38 | wizzyrea | he's on the same server I think |
| 14:38 | so maybe there's something amok with the linode | |
| 14:38 | wahanui | wizzyrea: sorry... |
| 14:38 | sekjal was last seen on #koha 42 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: mbalmer: the way the sysprefs got added for 7408 was... problematic [Tue Mar 20 13:56:26 2012] | |
| 14:39 | oleonard | sekjal is in a meeting I think libsysguy, at CIL |
| 14:39 | wizzyrea | and wahanui is very slow |
| 14:39 | * dpavlin | tries to hang myself with sub {} within script which breaks pluck scoping.... |
| 14:40 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 14:40 | * libsysguy | will be stalking sekjal for bug 5549 |
| 14:41 | oleonard | huginn, don't hold your breath |
| 14:41 | huginn | oleonard: I've exhausted my database of quotes |
| 14:41 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: i would think we don't need that much precision in check out, since we are scanning patrons barcodes usually, which are unique |
| 14:41 | dpavlin | paul_p: is https://github.com/PTFS-Europe/koha correct one as opposed to https://github.com/ptfs/Koha-PTFS which is 2 years old? |
| 14:41 | paul_p | dpavlin nope, ptfs-europe is NOT ptfs |
| 14:41 | wizzyrea | you'd be amazed at what people find to complain about |
| 14:42 | paul_p | dpavlin https://github.com/liblime/LibLime-Koha |
| 14:42 | oleonard | gaetan_B Shouldn't we have consistent search behavior though? |
| 14:42 | paul_p | grrr... github makes my FF crash |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | i agree we should have consistent search behavior |
| 14:42 | cait | and bugzilla is sleepy |
| 14:42 | wizzyrea | but changing it to conatins |
| 14:42 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: but when looking for someone whose cardnumber we don't have, i assume we might not have accurate information about how the patron has been entered in the database since we don't have his/her card |
| 14:42 | cait | can't attach my patch |
| 14:42 | gaetan_B | hence my suggestion ;) |
| 14:42 | cait | mveron: should we take this into a pm? |
| 14:43 | gaetan_B | but i agree making it consistent is a bigger priority |
| 14:43 | mveron | cait: soory, somebody at the door... back in 5 min |
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| 14:44 | wizzyrea | the contains search that is currently in check-out causes complaints here - they don't want the noise |
| 14:44 | perhaps | |
| 14:44 | you could add a checkbox to do a "contains" search | |
| 14:45 | instead of changing the default behavior | |
| 14:45 | make it an optional-at-search-time thing | |
| 14:45 | "advanced search" | |
| 14:45 | which we've always wanted. | |
| 14:45 | (in a way that doesn't suck) | |
| 14:46 | oleonard | :D |
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| 14:47 | sturmtruppen | good spring #koha! |
| 14:47 | wizzyrea | hi sturmtruppen |
| 14:47 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: i don't really have a definitive opinion on this. I brought this up because i received the opposite complaint regarding patron search. Since a problem exists in both ways of searching, we need to add some kind of option |
| 14:47 | sturmtruppen | hi wizzyrea |
| 14:48 | gaetan_B | but as you say |
| 14:48 | in a way that doesn't suck ;) | |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 14:48 | sekjal | libsysguy: working on 5549 currently; slowed by the conference workshop, but I'm on it, and will have a verdict by days end |
| 14:48 | wizzyrea | yea, make it an optional thing and we'll be good. a "search contains" option would be handy. And fix the other search so it doesn't do that |
| 14:49 | gaetan_B | also the text above the search field says "Enter patron card number or partial name:" |
| 14:50 | * wizzyrea | considers |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | maybe in this one case, consistency isn't what you want. |
| 14:50 | libsysguy | thanks sekjal! |
| 14:50 | wizzyrea | maybe what you want, with the checkout search, is the fastest, dirtiest search you can do |
| 14:50 | libsysguy | darn conferences :p |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | and with the patron search, you want the most refined, exact search you can do |
| 14:51 | paul_p | dpavlin & hdl = http://modperlbook.org/html/6-[…]stry-Secrets.html |
| 14:51 | it's exactly what we face I think | |
| 14:51 | wizzyrea | i mean... i feel like I'm talking heresy here. |
| 14:52 | jcamins | wizzyrea: as long as you don't weigh the same as a duck, you probably won't be burned at the stake. |
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| 14:53 | * wizzyrea | is not made of wood |
| 14:53 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:53 | aalhaija | Dears, i need to know how can i change the database name on koha using debian OS |
| 14:53 | ? | |
| 14:53 | :-) | |
| 14:54 | jcamins | The first question? |
| 14:54 | cait | first question? |
| 14:54 | omg | |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | wahanui is sleeping. |
| 14:54 | jcamins | aalhaija: what are you trying to do? |
| 14:54 | aalhaija | how can i change the Database name |
| 14:54 | wizzyrea | remember he's on the same server as bugzilla :/ |
| 14:55 | wahanui | the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 14:55 | i heard first question was "What are you trying to do?" | |
| 14:55 | dpavlin | paul_p: it seems that liblime opted to use our instead of my for plack, e.g. https://github.com/liblime/Lib[…]9d979aeed214cac87 |
| 14:55 | wizzyrea | there he is. |
| 14:55 | oleonard | Ah, the exciting shiver in my spine when opening circulation.tt for editing... |
| 14:56 | aalhaija | i have a demo database runing on the server for koha but i need to new database to publish as real ???? |
| 14:57 | jcamins | aalhaija: I'm not sure renaming the database is really a good idea. |
| 14:57 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 14:57 | aalhaija | so what shall i do |
| 14:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #664: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/664/ |
| 14:57 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7434: Display of issue number for serials in overdues | |
| 14:57 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7086 : "suggested by" fixed for staff members | |
| 14:57 | * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn | |
| 14:57 | * paul.poulain: bug 7086 follow-up: removed warn | |
| 14:57 | * Chris Cormack: Bug 7408 : Fixing a typo that was breaking the installer | |
| 14:57 | paul_p | OK, this time bugzilla is completly down :(((( |
| 14:58 | jcamins | paul_p: that's because you're fixing too many bugs! :P |
| 14:58 | paul_p | s/fixing/pushing/ ;-) |
| 14:58 | jcamins | aalhaija: either create a new database, or use the database with the name it currently has. |
| 14:59 | gaetan_B | wizzyrea: i'll ask our librarians here, i brought this up after receiving a complaint from one library, and i was not really thinking about the otther side of the problem. If my complaint is isolated, i'd say let's jsut standardize it to "start with" search otherwise let's add an option. But i would be for standardizing. |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | okies |
| 14:59 | aalhaija | do i need to do anything after create new database with the same name ? |
| 15:00 | jcamins | aalhaija: don't create a new database with the same name. Use a different name. |
| 15:00 | aalhaija | okay , what next this step? |
| 15:01 | jcamins | aalhaija: I think you need to explain *exactly* what you want to do. |
| 15:01 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #665 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 15:01 | jcamins | Is jenkins on the same server? |
| 15:03 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63414d9055cfbbbef> / Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a96bc5acc90015515> |
| 15:03 | aalhaija | i installed koha on debian with empty database and everything is working ,,but now i need to restore database hold hundred of records to the server and connect koha to it |
| 15:05 | chris_n | mtj: interesting |
| 15:06 | jcamins | chris_n: I was just telling people it would be much easier for you to do your release maintaining if there weren't so many bugs with a "pushed" status. Don't you think that's true? |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea was wondering how to make your job easier. :) | |
| 15:06 | cait | and there are some nice translation bugs waiting for a sign-off... |
| 15:07 | jcamins | aalhaija: where did the non-empty database come from? |
| 15:07 | paul_p | jcamins nope, BibLibre host jenkins, someone else host bugzilla |
| 15:07 | chris_n | jcamins: being able to parse through bugs based on a reliable status might be nice |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | bugzilla is on a linode, it's rangi's |
| 15:07 | jcamins | paul_p: okay. I was going to say you should pause jenkins if it's on the same server. |
| 15:07 | aalhaija | durring the installation |
| 15:08 | oleonard | wizzyrea, working now though |
| 15:08 | jcamins | aalhaija: where did the empty database come from, then? |
| 15:08 | * wizzyrea | wonders if there was a hand from above touching it |
| 15:08 | aalhaija | the empty database i mean that come with the installation |
| 15:09 | new installation | |
| 15:09 | jcamins | aalhaija: where did the other database come from? |
| 15:10 | wizzyrea | aalhaija: do you care about what's in the database you currently have? |
| 15:10 | aalhaija | from old server we have |
| 15:10 | yes i need all the records | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | ok, so this is the database you are going to production with? |
| 15:11 | aalhaija | yes |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | and you want to change the name because it says koha-test or somesuch? |
| 15:11 | aalhaija | yes exactly |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | ok, here's the deal - the name is pretty much arbitrary. The user never sees it. |
| 15:12 | what you probably want to do | |
| 15:12 | is take a complete dump of the database | |
| 15:13 | back up koha? | |
| 15:13 | wahanui | rumour has it back up koha is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]i/Backing_up_Koha |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 15:13 | like this | |
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| 15:13 | wizzyrea | create a new database with your required name |
| 15:13 | import your backup into that new database | |
| 15:13 | then edit your koha-conf.xml to reflect the new name | |
| 15:14 | and you should be set. | |
| 15:14 | then, you can drop the koha-test db once you feel comfortable that your new db is working as you expect | |
| 15:14 | aalhaija | you means that we will import the records to the new database |
| 15:14 | jcamins | aalhaija: how did you install Koha? Did you use packages? |
| 15:14 | aalhaija | yes |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | then you should use the package tools. |
| 15:15 | packages? | |
| 15:15 | wahanui | package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | package commands? |
| 15:15 | jcamins | This makes it very easy. |
| 15:15 | wizzyrea | package tools? |
| 15:15 | * wizzyrea | will add that |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 15:16 | jcamins | koha-create almiktabah |
| 15:16 | wizzyrea | package tools is <reply> package tools can be found at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 15:16 | aalhaija | very nice |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Then you need to restore from the dump into that database. |
| 15:17 | wizzyrea | what about koha-restore |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Also, I don't recommend really using almiktabah as the name. |
| 15:17 | aalhaija: did you use the packages on your old server, too? | |
| 15:17 | aalhaija | no actully |
| 15:18 | jcamins | wizzyrea: you can't use koha-restore with a raw database dump. |
| 15:18 | wizzyrea | right - my understanding was that this data came from an old server, and was imported into a package install |
| 15:19 | so he could do koha-run-backups then koha-restore | |
| 15:19 | but that could be wrong. | |
| 15:19 | jcamins | wizzyrea: it hasn't made it into the package install yet, I think. |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | ah then it's moot |
| 15:20 | aalhaija | i new with koha administration and new in linux |
| 15:20 | i am trying from 3 days to resotre the database was on old server to the new server | |
| 15:21 | koha as web is working but no data retrive when we try to search for any title | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | search faq? |
| 15:21 | wahanui | it has been said that search faq is at http://koha-community.org/docu[…]on/faq/searching/ |
| 15:21 | jcamins | ^^ you might want to read that. |
| 15:22 | wizzyrea | specifically http://koha-community.org/faq/[…]ch-stuff-up-help/ |
| 15:22 | alex_a | dpavlin: http://search.cpan.org/~miyaga[…]ack/App/CGIBin.pm |
| 15:23 | aalhaija | many thanks |
| 15:24 | many thanks | |
| 15:32 | mtj | jcamins: i guess liblime assume (correctly?) that most people see the LLK github repo, and assume that its LLEK too :/ |
| 15:42 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #665: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/665/ |
| 15:42 | * gaetan.boisson: Bug 7731 - Library should be used instead of branch and site | |
| 15:42 | * paul.poulain: welcome gaetan, you're 179th ! | |
| 15:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7731 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Library should be used instead of branch and site |
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| 15:47 | magnuse | woohoo for gaetan_B! |
| 15:48 | gaetan_B | :-) |
| 15:48 | jcamins | gaetan_B: congratulations! |
| 15:48 | paul_p_: do you think we'll have reached 200 before KohaCon? | |
| 15:49 | paul_p_ | jcamins I don't think so. 22 new commiters is really big ! |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | we've put on... how many already this year? |
| 15:49 | paul_p_ | gaetan_B++ (also because it's a huge patch) |
| 15:49 | jcamins | paul_p_: then maybe Shari will be able to be a 1xx committer. :) |
| 15:51 | sturmtruppen | a little question... |
| 15:51 | magnuse | furst new committer in 2012 was number 168 |
| 15:51 | sturmtruppen | i have all the UNIMARC data in a txt file |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | so 11 |
| 15:52 | sturmtruppen | how can i import in koha automatically? |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | 20 might be a stretch. |
| 15:53 | magnuse | i have a small hope of doing a "hacking koha" workshop before the summer, where everyone gets to do a new framework for normarc as an exercise - but that might not happen... |
| 15:53 | would maybe be ~5 people | |
| 15:53 | paul_p | ok, i'm paul_p ;-) |
| 15:53 | cait | ok |
| 15:53 | magnuse | nice to meet you, paul_p :-) |
| 15:53 | cait | who wants a colorful shiny staff interface? |
| 15:54 | paul_p | cait me me !!! some chocolate if you submit one before the end of the week ! |
| 15:54 | libsysguy | me me cait |
| 15:54 | sturmtruppen | me me too! |
| 15:54 | * libsysguy | likes the shiny things |
| 15:54 | cait | lol |
| 15:54 | libsysguy | btw bug 5339 is looking good |
| 15:54 | cait | first steps... 7760 |
| 15:54 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5339 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Parcel closing in acq |
| 15:54 | cait | oh |
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| 15:55 | paul_p | hi melia ! |
| 15:55 | sekjal | cait: I've had librarians complain about how stark and bright the staff client is with it's default CSS |
| 15:55 | melia | good morning |
| 15:55 | cait | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 |
| 15:55 | huginn | 04Bug 7760: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 15:55 | reiveune | mbalmer: ping |
| 15:55 | cait | we have a bug going |
| 15:55 | to add a unique id and a class for the module to every page | |
| 15:55 | libsysguy | yeah bug 7760 would be crucial |
| 15:55 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7760 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Add ids and classes to every staff page to help with customizaton |
| 15:55 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import in Koha automatically? |
| 15:55 | cait | ok |
| 15:55 | so I need sign-offers! | |
| 15:57 | sekjal | further incentive: template-based patches are easy to QA once signed off |
| 15:57 | sturmtruppen | import in the database of koha |
| 15:57 | wizzyrea | yes, I would like to make the administration pages red, the circ pages a soothing blue... |
| 15:57 | cait | and I am going to tackle the authority module next |
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| 15:57 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 15:57 | libsysguy | cait++ |
| 15:57 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: import in the database of koha |
| 15:58 | cait | really easy to do |
| 15:58 | but it would be cool if it could go in fast | |
| 15:58 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: what do you mean, import automatically? |
| 15:58 | sturmtruppen | by a script, without click "save" every book |
| 15:58 | *books | |
| 15:59 | libsysguy | bug 5339 is also looking for a second sign off :) |
| 15:59 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: ah, there is no functionality for that. |
| 16:00 | mbalmer | 17:00. enough is enough ;) |
| 16:00 | rangi | fyi it was some bots a tweetmemebot, and a couple of others |
| 16:00 | 89.151.116.53 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:13 +0000] "GET /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 35416 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; TweetmemeBot/2.11; +http://tweetmeme.com/)" | |
| 16:00 | 184.169.243.56 - - [20/Mar/2012:14:30:14 +0000] "HEAD /bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7300 HTTP/1.1" 200 295 "-" "UnwindFetchor/1.0 (+http://www.gnip.com/)" | |
| 16:00 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: i think it is possible, i have only to figure out how... |
| 16:00 | rangi | just eating up all available connections |
| 16:00 | going back to sleep now | |
| 16:01 | wizzyrea | thanks rangi |
| 16:01 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: you can write your own script, but there is no feature to do that in Koha. |
| 16:02 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: i know that, i would know i someone has already done that or where i can found the scheme for a right filling... |
| 16:03 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: ah, a couple of people have written scripts, including, I think, druthb in her koha-migration-toolbox repo, but documentation is a bit scarce, and I don't have any details. |
| 16:04 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: ok, thanks, i will try... |
| 16:08 | i have to make a script in perl? oh my gosh... | |
| 16:08 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: yup. |
| 16:09 | sekjal | okay, lunch time. Room is insecure, so I'll vanish for a bit while I go eat |
| 16:09 | cait | bye sekjal |
| 16:09 | :) | |
| 16:09 | sekjal | still working on bug 5549, will hopefully have feedback soon |
| 16:10 | I did see it fail QA from Hackfest Testing | |
| 16:10 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:10 | sekjal | but I want to be sure all the issues I found are now addressed, and we're down to just fixing a few last things |
| 16:10 | libsysguy | sekjal im wondering if that is because he's running a sandbox |
| 16:10 | im looking at the issues he saw | |
| 16:10 | sekjal | thanks, libsysguy |
| 16:10 | brb | |
| 16:10 | * oleonard | will submit a signoff for Bug 7760 as soon as Bugzilla wakes up |
| 16:10 | libsysguy | no worries |
| 16:10 | I want this in lol | |
| 16:11 | im tired of dealing with it and not being able to run the latest code in prod :p | |
| 16:15 | jcamins | cait: we should have classes on the body tags in the OPAC, too... we don't yet, do we? |
| 16:15 | oleonard | jcamins, I think we do |
| 16:15 | Well, unique ids | |
| 16:15 | The idea of the classes in the staff client is to be able to give a common style to "modules" | |
| 16:16 | jcamins | oleonard: we do have ids? Good! I think we may have missed one or two, on the cart or the like. |
| 16:17 | I'll report a bug when I remember which page I was annoyed about not having any way to identify. | |
| 16:20 | cait | jcamins: we have id's on many pages in opac, not on the body tag i think |
| 16:20 | I mean on other high hiearchy tags, but not on body perhaps | |
| 16:21 | ah... I should scroll | |
| 16:21 | jcamins | cait: there was one page that I couldn't find a way to address directly, so I worked around it, and thought "gee, we should have ids or classes." |
| 16:22 | oleonard | jcamins, The only example I see is a template we don't use, opac-userdetails |
| 16:28 | jcamins | oleonard: if I come across it again, I'll report it. |
| 16:28 | * oleonard | dares you |
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| 16:32 | sekjal | libsysguy: I've done a diff between the version of 5549 from yesterday, and rangi's rebase (both rebased on master).... scanning through that now. since it fixes the .po issue, there is A LOT of mindless scrolling to do |
| 16:32 | that's what's taking the time | |
| 16:32 | libsysguy | heh |
| 16:33 | yeah I think he removed some of the patches I tried merging in | |
| 16:34 | sekjal im a little confused about what to do with the latest Failed QA from hackfest…I can't reproduce the error, and the "lacking" section i think should wait | |
| 16:34 | what are your thoughts | |
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| 16:35 | sekjal | if you can't reproduce the error, note it on the bug report. I'll try to get it, as well. it may be that if they're using the sandbox, they don't have all the necessary DB updates |
| 16:35 | as for "lacking", well, that sounds like followup stuff | |
| 16:35 | wizzyrea | scope_creep-- |
| 16:35 | sekjal | let's get all this in place first, then work on enhancing it |
| 16:35 | libsysguy | ok I'll make a note, should I reflag it as signed off or leave it failed |
| 16:36 | * libsysguy | is still a little green |
| 16:36 | sekjal | libsysguy: it doesn't matter the flag right now, since it's going through so much active testing |
| 16:36 | libsysguy | ok cool |
| 16:36 | thanks sekjal | |
| 16:36 | sekjal | np, libsysguy |
| 16:36 | we're almost there! | |
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| 16:36 | libsysguy | just keep trucking :p |
| 16:37 | wizzyrea | libsysguy, which iw the "latest fail qa" |
| 16:37 | is* | |
| 16:38 | libsysguy | comment 49 |
| 16:38 | bug 5549 | |
| 16:38 | wahanui | bug 5549 is your white whale |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | what bug |
| 16:38 | wahanui | bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet. |
| 16:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans |
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| 16:58 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
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| 16:58 | Oak | hello cait |
| 16:58 | kia ora #koha | |
| 16:58 | cait | hello Oak |
| 16:59 | Oak, could it be that today is a special day? | |
| 16:59 | Oak | back home? |
| 16:59 | nope | |
| 16:59 | cait | hmm |
| 16:59 | jcamins | cait: I already asked. Tomorrow is. |
| 16:59 | cait | perhaps I messed up my calendar then |
| 16:59 | oh | |
| 16:59 | * cait | goes to correct her calendar |
| 16:59 | Oak | :) |
| 16:59 | cait | oh |
| 16:59 | it's me | |
| 17:00 | the calendar is right | |
| 17:00 | I confused dates :P | |
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| 17:01 | Oak | crap, i was busy in exams and i missed your birthday... |
| 17:01 | cait :-( | |
| 17:02 | had a paper on 1st march, and another one on 3rd march. but no way to remind me... | |
| 17:03 | but i don't think i'll forget next time. | |
| 17:05 | cait | that's ok :) |
| 17:05 | don't worry about it | |
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| 17:07 | jcamins | Morning, rangi. |
| 17:08 | Oak | jcamins, did you wish cait on her birthday? |
| 17:08 | i hope i'm the only one who forgot. | |
| 17:08 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 17:10 | jcamins | Oak: I did, yes. It was in the topic. |
| 17:11 | sekjal | libsysguy: finally figured out how to jump to the end of the git diff output |
| 17:11 | Oak | oh good. |
| 17:11 | jcamins | Oh, there's an IRC meeting tomorrow. |
| 17:11 | sekjal | from my analysis of the code, we're in very good shape on bug 5549 |
| 17:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans |
| 17:11 | sekjal | just a little work left to be done on how to get the database updates deployed, which is largely up to paul_p. |
| 17:12 | and I want to throw some time at confirming/denying the issues that were found by the hackfesters | |
| 17:12 | Oak | me go now. see you guys on 22nd March. night. |
| 17:16 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0ca5b4e9388c3302c> / Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]904de69619b6e9dd8> / Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists <http://g |
| 17:16 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #666 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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| 17:31 | magnuse | 666, eh? |
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| 17:33 | gmcharlt | @quote random |
| 17:33 | huginn | gmcharlt: Quote #15: "<|Lupin|>ricardo: you are like the Portuguese Hitchcock!!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:58 PM, July 10, 2009) |
| 17:36 | * slef | does more kohacon admin |
| 17:38 | magnuse | slef++ |
| 17:38 | * magnuse | does dinner |
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| 17:40 | jcamins | Heh. The only one I did not test on that list is bug 7144. |
| 17:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7144 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Floating collection |
| 17:41 | * jcamins | is looking forward to sign off statistics for March. |
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| 17:42 | mveron | Bon appetit #koha Marseille! |
| 17:43 | * sekjal | has his work cut out for him.... 15 new bugs in the QAQ |
| 17:43 | clrh | mveron: thanks :) |
| 17:51 | ++ | |
| 17:55 | libsysguy | sekjal any luck with reproducing the hackfest bugs? |
| 17:56 | im about to start testing with odd circ rules | |
| 17:56 | I couldn't reproduce with the ones I had | |
| 17:56 | sekjal | libsysguy: haven't had a chance yet; preconf session has picked back up |
| 17:56 | slef | magnus_afk: 'ere, I want a word with you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM ;-) |
| 17:56 | libsysguy | gotcha |
| 17:56 | sekjal | may have sometime at the coffee break; otherwise, will need to wait until 4:30p Eastern |
| 17:57 | libsysguy | understood…I'll continue my testing and post the results |
| 17:57 | sekjal | awesome |
| 17:57 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #666: SUCCESS in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/666/ |
| 17:57 | * srdjan: Bug 7235: Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page | |
| 17:57 | * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 7235: Add order date and checks for permissions | |
| 17:57 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7235 follow-up: removing some upper cases | |
| 17:57 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7166: Adds edit order notes when the basket is closed | |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7235 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Adding invoice number and vendor name to the moredetail page |
| 17:57 | jenkins_koha | * koha.sekjal: Bug 7697: Remove unused textmessaging parameter from OPAC main/user |
| 17:57 | * jcamins: Bug 7600: Return a single-pixel GIF when no local cover image exists | |
| 17:57 | * matthias.meusburger: Bug 6025: Adds a script that re-create missing statistics from issues and old_issues tables | |
| 17:57 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7735: removal of C4::Dates when unused | |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7166 enhancement, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Modify order notes when basket is closed |
| 17:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7697 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Pushed to Master , Clean up borrower.textmessaging leftover code | |
| 17:57 | * sekjal | preps the blubber room for 5549 |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7600 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Have book cover image script return single-pixel gif data |
| 17:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6025 enhancement, P3, ---, matthias.meusburger, Pushed to Master , Script to recreate entries in the statistics table from the issues and oldissues table | |
| 17:57 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7735 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , Removal of C4::Dates where it's not used anymore | |
| 17:58 | libsysguy | the blubber room? |
| 17:58 | sekjal | the place on old ships where whales were... rendered |
| 17:59 | slef | magnus_afk: (seriously, let me know when you return...) |
| 17:59 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 17:59 | * jcamins | thought you meant there was going to be a lot of crying. |
| 18:00 | libsysguy | thats what im doing :p |
| 18:33 | rangi | Morning |
| 18:36 | sekjal | morning, rangi |
| 18:45 | wizzyrea | hi there rangi |
| 18:45 | paul_p: i'm decently confident about 7144 | |
| 18:46 | bug 5549 | |
| 18:46 | wahanui | it has been said that bug 5549 is libsysguy's white whale |
| 18:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans |
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| 19:11 | rangi | ah ha |
| 19:12 | everytime the kohagbsd twitter accounts tweets a bunch of bots all hit whatever bug it was talking about | |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | ewwww |
| 19:13 | rangi | and because there was a big flurry, it was big enough to max out connections for a little while |
| 19:13 | mystery solved | |
| 19:19 | ibeardslee | ahh the joy of bots eh? |
| 19:20 | rangi | yup |
| 19:22 | ibeardslee | just need to get some google ads on those pages then? |
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| 19:23 | rangi | heh |
| 19:29 | sekjal: want me to fix and push the follow up to the branch? | |
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| 19:30 | sekjal | rangi: that's be great |
| 19:30 | rangi | righto will do |
| 19:30 | sekjal | s/that's/that'd/ |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | it looks like in C4::Calendar it was called daysBetween |
| 19:31 | and changed in the new namespac | |
| 19:31 | sekjal | yup |
| 19:31 | rangi | yep fixing now |
| 19:31 | sekjal | and days_between is already used in C4/Overdues.pm |
| 19:31 | libsysguy | *smh* don't know how i missed that |
| 19:31 | * libsysguy | would be a terrible tester |
| 19:31 | sekjal | this should be the only issue with it, according to my grep |
| 19:34 | rangi | fix pushed |
| 19:34 | sekjal | awesome |
| 19:35 | will test other issues once I'm out of this preconf session | |
| 19:35 | rangi | thanks |
| 19:35 | whats the session? | |
| 19:35 | sekjal | usability and user experience |
| 19:36 | at Computers in Libraries | |
| 19:36 | rangi | ajj |
| 19:36 | ahh even | |
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| 19:39 | sjeffery | I am writing up a rfp for development work and want to be sure that the vendor is required to put the code into the main codebase. Not knowing the development termonology, what am I looking for? They need to pass QA? |
| 19:40 | rangi | You want the code pushed to the master branch of the official Koha git repository (git.koha-community.org) |
| 19:40 | sekjal | sjeffery: the specification as well as the code need to be open and available. |
| 19:40 | rangi | in order to get there, it needs to pass sign off, and qa |
| 19:40 | as well as the release manager | |
| 19:40 | sekjal | a bug report must be filed for the enhancement, and a wiki page should probably be added if it's sizeable |
| 19:40 | rangi | *nod* |
| 19:40 | magnus_afk | slef: still around? |
| 19:41 | sjeffery | Oh yeah, it is going to be sizable:) |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | dare we ask what it is? |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | maybe make it break up into smaller patches? |
| 19:41 | rangi | sjeffery: ideally they would develop in the open with a publicly viewable git repo |
| 19:41 | magnus_afk | rangi: just say if i should turn kohagbsd off |
| 19:41 | rangi | magnus_afk: all good |
| 19:41 | ive rate limited the bots | |
| 19:41 | libsysguy | otherwise it could be doomed to the same fate as hourly |
| 19:41 | wizzyrea | yea, smaller is better. |
| 19:42 | incremental improvement. | |
| 19:42 | sometimes you have to take one big step before you can do the improvements though. | |
| 19:42 | like acquisitions. | |
| 19:42 | sjeffery | The first project is to change around authorities, add support for heirarchies, new interfaces, etc. Second project is completely rewriting series receiving and display. Third project is more support for analytics:) |
| 19:42 | wizzyrea | you should talk to jcamins. |
| 19:42 | he's doing a lot of work in that area already | |
| 19:43 | sjeffery | I know, we have been chatting about the analytics for a long time |
| 19:43 | wizzyrea | cool |
| 19:43 | just making sure ;) | |
| 19:43 | rangi | but yeah publish early publish often |
| 19:43 | magnus_afk | +1 |
| 19:43 | rangi | helps others test/spot things .. which will make qa so much easier down the road |
| 19:44 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 19:44 | sjeffery | Actually, the hope is to do the development very rapidly (in a few week time period), so it will be more likely to sorta just show up |
| 19:44 | rangi | if they are using git, theres no reason not to have the repo public |
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| 19:45 | rangi | eg |
| 19:45 | sjeffery | hmm, yeah, good point |
| 19:45 | rangi | http://git.catalyst.net.nz/gw?[…]/bug_7613_wr89060 |
| 19:45 | you can always see what catalyst is working on, by checking hte repo | |
| 19:46 | sjeffery | ps-writing rfp's is horrific |
| 19:46 | rangi | answering them is worse :) |
| 19:47 | sjeffery | lol yeah, I will give you that |
| 19:52 | magnus_afk | @later tell slef: see you tomorrow! |
| 19:52 | huginn | magnus_afk: The operation succeeded. |
| 19:52 | magnus_afk | have fun #koha! |
| 20:09 | jcamins_away | n/nick jcamins |
| 20:10 | jcamins | Did someone say authorities? :D |
| 20:10 | sjeffery | not me! |
| 20:10 | jcamins | And... analytics? :D :D |
| 20:10 | Bwahahaha! :) | |
| 20:10 | sjeffery | And 12 other things if I can get them approved! |
| 20:11 | * jcamins | is happy to see authorities and analytics on the list. |
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| 20:33 | cait | hi #koha |
| 20:33 | hdl joined #koha | |
| 20:33 | jcamins | Hi cait. |
| 20:33 | cait | hi jcamins :) |
| 20:34 | marcb joined #koha | |
| 20:35 | rangi | hi cait and hdl |
| 20:35 | cait | hi rangi :) |
| 20:38 | oleonard joined #koha | |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | hi cait :) |
| 20:42 | rangi | hey oleonard |
| 20:42 | wahanui | well, oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
| 20:42 | oleonard | Hi |
| 20:42 | cait | hi owen :) |
| 20:42 | hi liz :) | |
| 20:42 | oleonard | cait, I'm back from dinner so early I hardly know what to do with my time! |
| 20:43 | cait | you don't really want me to make suggestions? :) |
| 20:43 | fix the german translation file for 3.6.3? ;) | |
| 20:43 | oleonard | I think you'd be unhappy with any of my solutions |
| 20:43 | rangi | das ist verboten! |
| 20:44 | eythian_bucklame | oleonard only know German swear words. |
| 20:44 | +s | |
| 20:44 | sjeffery | Well if we removed translations, that would make the code simpler:) |
| 20:44 | oleonard | ...and only ones which were in Raiders of the Lost Ark |
| 20:44 | * wizzyrea | gives sjeffery the eye. You know the one. |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | if we removed the translations, we'd be ptfs. |
| 20:45 | oh sorry, they do have es I guess. | |
| 20:45 | rangi | if the queens english was good enough for jesus christ, it's good enough for me |
| 20:45 | * wizzyrea | does a double take |
| 20:45 | rangi | hehe |
| 20:45 | its based on a quote by miriam a. ferguson | |
| 20:46 | https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Miriam_A._Ferguson | |
| 20:46 | cait | so noone is going to fix it for me? :( |
| 20:46 | *sigh* | |
| 20:46 | okok | |
| 20:46 | I will do it | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | oh my |
| 20:47 | jcamins | cait: Shouldn't it be das verboten ist? |
| 20:47 | rangi | and a nz band made a song about it |
| 20:47 | cait | nope |
| 20:47 | sekjal | okay, preconf done. going to migrate to another wifi hotspot |
| 20:47 | cait | rangi did it perfectly |
| 20:47 | rangi | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kIFTHoc-H0 |
| 20:47 | sjeffery | Am I the only one that ever changes the language of Koha on the front-end thinking that it changes the language of the displayed record? |
| 20:47 | cait | verboten is an adjective |
| 20:47 | so it is prohibited | |
| 20:47 | wizzyrea | surely not |
| 20:48 | rangi | cait: das ist gut, ja? |
| 20:48 | cait | sehr gut |
| 20:48 | jcamins | cait: ah. But if it were a noun, "ist" would have been at the end? |
| 20:48 | cait | hm no |
| 20:48 | slef | @later tell magnus_away here, I want a word with you! |
| 20:48 | huginn | slef: The operation succeeded. |
| 20:49 | cait | oh wow |
| 20:49 | that sounds... threatening | |
| 20:49 | jcamins | It sure does! |
| 20:49 | * cait | offers slef some cocolateless sweets |
| 20:49 | slef | did you miss the link earlier? |
| 20:49 | cait | we just came back from dinner |
| 20:49 | slef | http://youtube.com/watch?v=vfdGV7uznfM about 1m20 in |
| 20:49 | jcamins | Oh no! Did slef give up chocolate for Lent? |
| 20:53 | slef | jcamins: no, cocoa solids just don't like me much. |
| 20:54 | jcamins | slef: oh no! That's even worse! |
| 20:56 | cait | it is |
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| 21:41 | oleonard | Okay, some messaging with home and a tiny bit of work and now I'm ready for bed. |
| 21:41 | Good night #koha | |
| 21:44 | cait | he is still too fast for me... |
| 21:44 | night #koha :) | |
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| 21:51 | libsysguy | ack new hourly bug |
| 21:52 | rangi | yep looking into it now |
| 21:52 | libsysguy | I feel like i've seen this one before |
| 21:52 | sekjal | rangi: the checkin seems to go through |
| 21:52 | it just throws up the error | |
| 21:52 | rangi | right |
| 21:52 | libsysguy | i've definitely seen this one before then |
| 21:52 | sekjal | I can't reproduce the renewals bug |
| 21:52 | renewals work just fine for me | |
| 21:52 | rangi | yeah i couldnt either |
| 21:53 | sekjal | maybe they're specifying the date? |
| 21:53 | that doesn't sound like what they're noting, though | |
| 21:53 | libsysguy | rangi are you working on it directly in the pull repo? |
| 21:53 | rangi | no, on my desktop |
| 21:54 | but i push the fixes to merged_5549 | |
| 21:54 | libsysguy | ok im going to do a pull just to get the changes you've made |
| 21:54 | rangi | cool, merged_5549 eh? |
| 21:54 | libsysguy | i believe so |
| 21:54 | rangi | ahh those are C4/Date objects not DateTime ones |
| 21:55 | hence the no truncate | |
| 21:55 | * rangi | finds the call to days_between |
| 21:57 | libsysguy | rangi++ |
| 22:01 | mveron | good night #koha |
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| 22:03 | rangi | ah yes |
| 22:04 | my $datedue = dt_from_string( $overdue->{date_due} ); | |
| 22:04 | is how we do it for fines | |
| 22:04 | fines.pl | |
| 22:04 | but when leveling the fine on return | |
| 22:04 | we are still use C4::Dates->new | |
| 22:05 | * rangi | will fix |
| 22:05 | sekjal | rangi: is this _FixOverduesOnReturn? |
| 22:05 | rangi | and this solves their finedays bug |
| 22:05 | _FixFineDaysOnReturn | |
| 22:05 | sekjal | right |
| 22:05 | just noting that... if my comment would ever SAVE | |
| 22:07 | rangi | yeah bots again |
| 22:07 | sekjal | I wish Hourly Loans has been implemented the way I noted in the spec... with a single unit of minutes, instead of splitting it out into a separate column |
| 22:08 | libsysguy | well maybe it can be fixed? |
| 22:08 | sekjal | would make the suspension in (unit of time) a little more flexible |
| 22:08 | libsysguy | *not now* |
| 22:08 | sekjal | libsysguy: I'm not sure my way of doing it is actually any better |
| 22:09 | and I think what I'm really unhappy about is the circ matrix | |
| 22:09 | libsysguy | oh the smart rules |
| 22:09 | sekjal | that needs a new basis STAT |
| 22:09 | I've been meaning to write one | |
| 22:09 | libsysguy | agreed, that thing is out of control |
| 22:09 | rangi | fixed bug |
| 22:09 | pushing now | |
| 22:09 | sekjal | thanks, rangi! |
| 22:09 | rangi++ | |
| 22:11 | libsysguy | rangi++ sekjal++ |
| 22:12 | sekjal | 23 bugs in my QAQ, not including 5549. but if we can put that one to bed, I'll consider the night a resounding success |
| 22:13 | rangi | yep! |
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| 22:25 | sekjal | looks like our JS Calendar has a showsTime option which will include the times along with the date... could be handy to implement for renewals, hardduedates, etc |
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| 22:27 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 22:28 | sekjal | as it stands, if you specify the renewal due date, it renews to 00:00 that day |
| 22:28 | libsysguy | well that is no good |
| 22:28 | rangi | yep, that could be a nice follow enh |
| 22:29 | libsysguy | but i agree with rangi, there are a treasure trove of follow up enhancements that need to go with hourly |
| 22:29 | sekjal | there'll be plenty of extra work we can do on this, once the core functionality is in place |
| 22:29 | ^^ | |
| 22:29 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:29 | libsysguy | ^^ |
| 22:29 | sekjal | lol |
| 22:29 | libsysguy | im glad we are all on the same page :p |
| 22:29 | rangi | bugs should hopefully be more responsive now |
| 22:30 | sekjal | I'm seeing much better behaviour, yes |
| 22:30 | rangi | i might have to kick in some more money and get more ram for my linode |
| 22:33 | libsysguy | you could move it to aws :p |
| 22:33 | rangi | like hell :) |
| 22:34 | amazon gets none of my money | |
| 22:34 | libsysguy | I only have the free account with them |
| 22:34 | when that is up ill move elsewhere | |
| 22:34 | rangi | linode are good, solid |
| 22:35 | libsysguy | i feel like aws gives me a lot of options…to rip myself off |
| 22:35 | rangi | yup |
| 22:35 | cloud = someone elses computer | |
| 22:36 | im old and crusty, but i still prefer an vps | |
| 22:37 | * libsysguy | pictures rangi looking like gandolf the grey |
| 22:37 | rangi | heh |
| 22:37 | with a bird on his head | |
| 22:37 | libsysguy | heh |
| 22:37 | sekjal | hmmm.... we're going to have to update KohaDates to handle timestamps |
| 22:37 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Chris_Cormack |
| 22:38 | it doesnt do a lot | |
| 22:38 | updating the modules it calls is probably the best bet | |
| 22:38 | ie it just calls format_date | |
| 22:38 | sekjal | I can see 5549 and 7444 colliding |
| 22:38 | rangi | its a sum total of 31 lines |
| 22:39 | of which only 10 do anything :) | |
| 22:39 | sub filter { my ($self,$text) = @_; my $date = C4::Dates->new( $text, 'iso' ); | |
| 22:39 | return $date->output("sspref"); | |
| 22:39 | } | |
| 22:39 | sekjal | shouldn't be hard to do, then |
| 22:39 | another opportunity for after Hourly Loans is merged | |
| 22:39 | rangi | fixing $date->output |
| 22:39 | is the best option | |
| 22:39 | or killing C4/Dates totally | |
| 22:40 | but we dont want KohaDates doing something different to the places we havent fixed yet | |
| 22:40 | so the fix needs to be lower | |
| 22:40 | if that makes sense | |
| 22:40 | sekjal | yes |
| 22:40 | was just looking at bug 7748 | |
| 22:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7748 trivial, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , Date not formatted on "Add orders from iso2709 file" page |
| 22:40 | rangi | ah yep |
| 22:42 | sekjal | so, I think we're okay on 5549, right? bugs are fixed, just need feedback on the renewals issues the hackfest testers found |
| 22:43 | rangi | i think so yeah |
| 22:43 | its only the renewal one | |
| 22:43 | @quote random | |
| 22:43 | huginn | rangi: Quote #152: "gmcharlt: Koha: unifying the world one library at a time" (added by wizzyrea at 02:19 PM, September 13, 2011) |
| 22:43 | rangi | @quote random |
| 22:43 | huginn | rangi: Quote #30: "< pianohacker> Dealing with me can indeed be painful" (added by chris at 09:34 PM, September 02, 2009) |
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| 22:44 | sekjal | need to figure out the plan for updating the database (databaseupdate.pl v. atomicupdate), and deal with rollingloans.t, but I don't think there are any other technical problems identified |
| 22:45 | rangi | i think we might jsut have to pull the test |
| 22:45 | while having sample circ rules and biblios and items would be great for all manner of tests | |
| 22:45 | im not sure we can get that done before freeze | |
| 22:45 | and it is the test that is failing not the code | |
| 22:45 | sekjal | no, building a solid test DB is no small feat |
| 22:46 | and right, it's just a faulty test | |
| 22:46 | so we pull it, and rebuild it later in t/db_dependent | |
| 22:46 | rangi | yep its in there now |
| 22:46 | sekjal | Circulation needs a more robust test suite, anyway |
| 22:46 | rangi | but just cant work without a populated db |
| 22:46 | and/or | |
| 22:46 | some kinda TAP thing | |
| 22:46 | sekjal | we don't have one mostly because of @quote 123 issues |
| 22:47 | rangi | http://theory.github.com/mytap/ |
| 22:47 | or pgtap | |
| 22:47 | et al | |
| 22:48 | Test::MockDBI | |
| 22:49 | theres a lot of weird and wonderful ways to do testing :) | |
| 22:49 | sekjal | well, in that case, I think it's reasonable to update the status of bug 5549 |
| 22:50 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5549 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, chris, Failed QA , Hourly Loans |
| 22:50 | rangi | yay! |
| 22:50 | libsysguy | yayy |
| 22:51 | sekjal | well done libsysguy and rangi. |
| 22:51 | libsysguy++ | |
| 22:51 | rangi++ | |
| 22:51 | libsysguy | rangi++ sekjal++ |
| 22:51 | seriously thanks for the support on this on | |
| 22:51 | definitely couldn't have done it on my own | |
| 22:52 | sekjal | a wonderful example of international, multi-organization cooperation |
| 22:52 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:52 | libsysguy | indeed |
| 22:52 | bag | YAY |
| 22:53 | sekjal | our work isn't done, of course, but we're in a much better position now than we were before |
| 22:53 | * libsysguy | plots how to get his prod server back up to master |
| 22:54 | libsysguy | then what new features to add to hourly core |
| 22:54 | food time | |
| 23:20 | rangi | @quote random |
| 23:20 | huginn | rangi: Quote #56: "* jdavidb makes sure no kitty carcasses are among the dead bugs." (added by gmcharlt at 01:34 PM, February 11, 2010) |
| 23:23 | sekjal | night, #koha! time for some food, drink and relaxin' |
| 23:51 | rangi | slef++ |
| 23:52 | slef | !?!? |
| 23:52 | yes, I'm still writing kohacon emails | |
| 23:52 | I am already asleep though | |
| 23:52 | rangi | yeah saw the wiki edit :) |
| 23:55 | slef | eythian is stuck in backland? |
| 23:55 | ibeardslee | bucklame |
| 23:56 | slef | depends on the phone ;) |
| 23:56 | ibeardslee | true |
| 23:59 | * rangi | makes an edit |
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