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Time | Nick | Message |
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00:00 | mtj | thx rangi :) |
00:08 | jcamins | cait: did that work? |
00:08 | cait | tsting |
00:09 | but looks good - I made a mistake | |
00:09 | ( {... ) }... | |
00:09 | *sigh* | |
00:09 | jcamins | Whoops. |
00:11 | Oak joined #koha | |
00:11 | Oak | no sleep cait ? |
00:11 | cait | lol |
00:11 | Oak | :) |
00:12 | go to sleep. | |
00:13 | jcamins | See? Everyone agrees. |
00:13 | cait | conspiracy |
00:14 | mtj | eythian: pssttt, your elbonia scoop is safe with me ;) |
00:15 | eythian | *phew* |
00:18 | cait | ok |
00:18 | why would my git diff show changes | |
00:18 | but git status will not show the changed files? | |
00:18 | jcamins | Not sure. |
00:18 | Time for me to eat dinner, though. | |
00:18 | And you to go to sleep. | |
00:18 | Good night, #koha. | |
00:19 | cait | that's not good |
00:19 | Dirty index: cannot apply patches..?? | |
00:20 | rangi | halfway through a rebase, or halfway through an apply already? |
00:21 | cait | git am |
00:21 | *sigh* | |
00:21 | rangi | git am --abort maybe |
00:21 | cait | and now I made a typo and really screwed up |
00:26 | cjh | jcamins_away: oops sorry, i often have a number in their for local testing and then forget to remove before making a patch *facepalm* |
00:26 | cait | cjh: you don't need a numbe for local testing :) |
00:26 | cjh: that's what I was trying to explain in one of the comments | |
00:27 | cjh: just put in XXX and increase kohaversion by 1 | |
00:27 | cjh: it will work :) | |
00:27 | cjh | sorry havent read the comments yet |
00:27 | really? hmm | |
00:29 | cait | yep |
00:29 | Space_Librarian | hehehe. |
00:29 | I love the bot | |
00:29 | what? where my response? | |
00:30 | cait | cjh: it detects the XXX and will update, so you only have to make a little cange in kohaversion - quite easy |
00:30 | and now :) good night #koha | |
00:30 | Space_Librarian | night cait |
00:30 | :) | |
00:30 | cjh | cait: thanks for that and good night :) |
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01:47 | Space_Librarian | So, I've used jcamins_away excellent script to do something about the bookplates, and I'm getting this. http://screencast.com/t/jP4ZlI47 What have I missed?! That is a wee section of the logo in the background, but I can't for the life of me fins what's going wrong. |
01:48 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: you need to change the size as well. |
01:48 | That's in the CSS. | |
01:48 | .no-image { width: 50px; height: 80px; } | |
01:49 | * Space_Librarian | devkes into the css |
01:49 | Space_Librarian | delves, even |
01:51 | ah-ha! | |
01:51 | rangi: is the no image text embedded in the css for our opac? | |
01:52 | rangi | could be, i didnt do the css |
01:52 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: I think you might need to do something so the text doesn't show up. |
01:52 | Space_Librarian | jcamins_away: that's my thought. I need to find it to do something about it |
01:53 | jcamins_away | I don't remember how I did that, though. |
01:54 | Worst-case scenario, use jquery. | |
01:55 | $('.no-image').html(''); | |
01:55 | Wait, that won't work. | |
01:55 | $('.no-image').html(' '); | |
01:55 | (that's to deal with FF having buggy XHTML handling) | |
01:55 | Space_Librarian | orly... |
01:55 | * Space_Librarian | tries that |
01:57 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: interestingly, the seized-up part of the fudge separated from the rest after I'd let it sit for a half hour, and I was able to peel it off. |
01:57 | (and I found perfectly good fudge underneath) | |
01:57 | Yay! | |
01:58 | mtj | meh, anyone recall a weird RSS bug in Koha, where the base_url was not added to the RSS feeds? |
01:58 | looks to be busted on 3.4, but fixed on 3.6... ?!? | |
01:59 | jcamins_away | mtj: yes, I do. |
01:59 | I don't remember anything about it, though. | |
02:00 | mtj | ok, a bug search didnt come up with anything obvious.. :/ |
02:01 | Space_Librarian | jcamins_away - yay for good fudge! |
02:14 | rangi | http://41.139.158.198/ another kenyan library goes live with Koha |
02:15 | all self done too :) | |
02:15 | and running 3.6.2 | |
02:43 | mtj | jcamins_away: fyi - looks like this was the bug.... |
02:43 | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7307 | |
02:43 | huginn | 04Bug 7307: normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Failed QA , OPACBaseURL not used in opac-search.pl |
02:43 | mtj | 'OPACBaseURL' not getting sent thru to ./opac-opensearch.tt correctly |
02:44 | rangi | thats never been pushed tho |
02:44 | mtj | and many s/OPACBaseurl/OPACBaseURL/ typos in templete |
02:44 | rangi | so cant be what fixed it for 3.6 |
02:44 | mtj | ha, yeah good point... :/ |
02:45 | rangi | (it currently wont be pushed either until its fixed) |
02:45 | mtj | my 3.4 problem is def. related to that bug |
02:46 | (there are plans to upgrade the 3.4 real-soon, i'm just going for a quick-fix here) | |
03:06 | ibeardslee | fresh install .. marc21 or unimarc? |
03:06 | eythian | ibeardslee: marc21 |
03:06 | unless you're in france | |
03:07 | * ibeardslee | checks |
03:09 | eythian | it's easy, if you can look out your window and see the Eiffel tower, you're in France. |
03:10 | ibeardslee | oh right .. sorted then |
03:24 | mtj | man, i have a really stupid template question, but here goes..... |
03:24 | so, heres how you set a template variable... pretty easy.. | |
03:25 | jcamins_away | @quote search tt |
03:25 | huginn | jcamins_away: 23 found: #101: "<darling> I still need to catch up with current...", #113: "<jcamins> I merely opened my hands and allowed...", #119: "<wasabi> wow, and a pig!!! -> http://www.blaine...", #122: "<member:oleonard>Everyone is doin' the hot new...", #127: "Oracle now has little choice but to abandon its...", #12: "<owen> Every time you check in a book a little...", #143: "rhcl: Blame the C coders; if (3 more messages) |
03:25 | mtj | $template->param( 'zzzzzzzzz' => 'aaaaaaaaaaaaa'); |
03:25 | jcamins_away | mtj: no, that's now how we set them anymore. |
03:25 | @quote more | |
03:25 | huginn | jcamins_away: I suck |
03:25 | jcamins_away | Okay, I can't find the quote. |
03:26 | I think it's like this, though: $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'} = 'aaaaa'; | |
03:26 | mtj | but, how do you get the result of variable $template->param( 'zzzzzzzzz' ) ? |
03:26 | jcamins_away | In Perl? |
03:26 | my $foo = $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'} | |
03:27 | mtj | sheesh, even a warn seems to undef the variable :/ |
03:27 | jcamins_away | In the template [% zzzzz %] |
03:27 | mtj: really? It should just be a hash. | |
03:27 | mtj | ah, ok - i was looking for that , but could'nt find an example :/ |
03:27 | jcamins_away | mtj: did you switch to the new variable assignment method? |
03:28 | mtj | hmm, wot is that? |
03:28 | jcamins_away | What I just described. |
03:28 | I think it's like this, though: $template->{VARS}->{'zzzzz'} = 'aaaaa'; | |
03:28 | @quote search template | |
03:28 | huginn | jcamins_away: No matching quotes were found. |
03:28 | jcamins_away | @quote search variable |
03:28 | huginn | jcamins_away: No matching quotes were found. |
03:28 | jcamins_away | @quote search typo |
03:28 | huginn | jcamins_away: 2 found: #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} -..." and #82: "<pianohack> nengard: If you were using a..." |
03:28 | jcamins_away | @quote get 135 |
03:28 | huginn | jcamins_away: Quote #135: "rangi: $tempate->{VARS}->{'LoginBranchname'} - without the typo" (added by cait at 07:30 PM, May 20, 2011) |
03:28 | mtj | ah, thats the new way.. ok :) |
03:28 | jcamins_away | ^^ like that |
03:29 | mtj | ah, cheers! :) |
03:29 | jcamins_away | Right, bed time |
03:29 | Good night. | |
03:30 | * mtj | sprinkles pixie-dust under jcamins pillow... |
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03:30 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
03:55 | Space_Librarian | good evening all you crazy kids - see ya'll tomorrow. :) |
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05:14 | eythian | so one of the smaller libraries I'm converting has one of the largest biblio collections I've dealt with. It's quite strange. |
05:14 | (their actual item counts are pretty small though.) | |
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05:44 | cait | goog morning #koha |
05:44 | eythian | hi cait |
05:44 | cait | hi eythian :) |
05:46 | Oak joined #koha | |
05:46 | Oak | hello miss cait. |
05:46 | kia ora #koha | |
05:46 | cait | hi Oak :) |
05:46 | am I allowed to be awake now? ;) | |
05:47 | Oak | yes you are, if you don't have a headache :) |
05:47 | cait | heh, ok |
05:59 | eythian | So I have zebra saying: "18:54:42-12/03 zebraidx(12254) d016f9b5 [warn] d1: 1: Malformed tag" and bailing out. Anyone know how to deal with that? |
06:01 | cait | oh ouch |
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06:24 | eythian | hmm, that error seems to only occur if you use marcxml, usmarc works OK. |
06:24 | that's good to know. | |
06:27 | cait | invalid xml? |
06:29 | eythian | no, the XML itself is valid. |
06:29 | and assuming I was looking at the right record, it's pretty boring. | |
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07:23 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
07:24 | cait | morning magnuse |
07:25 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
07:26 | cait: still wondering about 773 and normarc? | |
07:26 | cait | nope |
07:26 | I trusted jared | |
07:26 | and just made it work like for marc21 | |
07:30 | magnuse | cait: probably a good idea |
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07:30 | mbalmer | kohaistas! |
07:30 | magnuse | it's mostly the same too, but marc21 hsa some more fields |
07:30 | hiya alex_a and mbalmer | |
07:30 | alex_a | bonjour magnuse |
07:31 | mbalmer | plan for today: finish my SIP library and make the Lua binding. |
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07:35 | Oak | magnuse |
07:37 | magnuse | Oak |
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07:44 | paul_p joined #koha | |
07:44 | reiveune | hello |
07:44 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
07:44 | cait | good morning paul_p |
07:44 | paul_p | cait, just seen your later talk. |
07:45 | the login is test/test, it should be written on the wiki page | |
07:45 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune and paul_p |
07:45 | paul_p | hi magnuse ! |
07:45 | and thanks for your gift we recieved on friday | |
07:45 | reiveune | hi magnuse cait and everybody |
07:45 | magnuse | :-) |
07:46 | paul_p: good to hear it arrived, i was a bit afraid it might get eaten in customs... :-) | |
07:47 | paul_p | magnuse well, I think it has been open, because it was in a very bad state. Do you confirm there were 3 inside ? |
07:47 | rangi | https://plus.google.com/113026[…]posts/ZRdtjTL1MpM <--- thats how you run an opensource project |
07:47 | screw you and your patches! | |
07:48 | google ... you're doing it wrong | |
07:48 | magnuse | paul_p: yup: 3 bags |
07:48 | paul_p | magnuse on, so everything is OK ;-) |
07:49 | the good news being that we succedeed to prevent reiveune from eating all of them immediatly ;-) | |
07:49 | cait | paul_p: I didn't find it |
07:49 | it states that passwords logins will be different for each | |
07:49 | magnuse | paul_p: yay! |
07:49 | rangi: way to go! ;-) | |
07:49 | reiveune | paul_p: I have yet one week to try to eat them |
07:50 | paul_p | cait = [edit] marc21 tiny dataset (1) |
07:50 | default config, login with test/test, superlibrarian, 1 biblio with 10 items (barcode 1 to 10) | |
07:50 | cait | reiveune: you better not - I can get really mean! |
07:50 | paul_p | (maybe show it in bold ;-) |
07:50 | cait | paul_p: will try to check again later |
07:51 | reiveune | cait: ;-) |
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07:51 | cait | reiveune: no lie, I can! |
07:52 | reiveune | me too :-p |
07:53 | * magnuse | shudders at the thought of the wrath of cait |
07:53 | cait | reiveune: want to fight over chocolate? you are going to loose! heh |
07:53 | ok | |
07:53 | time for work | |
07:53 | bbiab | |
07:53 | reiveune | bye :) |
07:54 | sophie_m | hi #koha |
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08:01 | rangi | slef: about? |
08:01 | * rangi | has his flights sorted, arrive the 4th, leave on 13th, just hotel to sort out now |
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08:04 | mbalmer | rangi, speaking about kohacon? |
08:04 | francharb joined #koha | |
08:04 | rangi | yup |
08:05 | mbalmer | I will have to leave on the 11th already |
08:05 | francharb | hello |
08:05 | wahanui | privet, francharb |
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08:07 | gaetan_B | good morning ! |
08:10 | paul_p | kf++ (for more 7001 testings) |
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08:18 | rangi | well that mail makes zero sense |
08:18 | kf joined #koha | |
08:19 | kf | hi again #koha |
08:19 | reiveune: what is the chocolate status? | |
08:20 | reiveune | full... for the moment |
08:21 | asaurat | what's full ? the bag or your stomach ? :D |
08:21 | rangi | heh |
08:21 | reiveune | asaurat: do not denounce myself immediately please |
08:22 | asaurat | ok, I won't tell anything ;) |
08:22 | clrh | hello |
08:22 | rangi | its in the public log there are 3 bags.... :-) |
08:23 | hi clrh | |
08:23 | asaurat | haha |
08:23 | reiveune | I see only one |
08:24 | others may be lost during transport :) | |
08:24 | rangi | chocolate? |
08:24 | wahanui | reiveune ate them all |
08:24 | asaurat | loll |
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08:29 | kf | lol |
08:29 | asaurat: I trust you to stop him | |
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08:30 | rangi | hi mle |
08:30 | just the person :) | |
08:30 | mle | hey rangi |
08:30 | : ) | |
08:30 | rangi | what if anything do you know about Cairn Edinburgh Hotel? |
08:31 | kf | hi mle :) |
08:31 | mle | nothing off the top of my head rangi |
08:31 | hey kf | |
08:31 | * mle | googles |
08:31 | rangi | it seems not bad, and is only a short bus ride away |
08:35 | mle | http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hot[…]rgh_Scotland.html |
08:35 | mixed reviews. only 5 minutes from my new flat. not bad location. i can check it out this week | |
08:35 | rangi | ohh cool |
08:35 | safe and clean .. thats all i care about | |
08:36 | i dont plan to do much more than sleep in it :) | |
08:36 | mle | 22 minute walk from Teviot/Bristow Sq - Kohacon |
08:36 | rangi | *nod* |
08:36 | or you can catch the number5 bus apparently | |
08:37 | mle | yes the number, caught that yesterday |
08:37 | kf | how far from hackfest? |
08:37 | mle | number 5 even |
08:37 | hackfest same venue. | |
08:37 | kf | ah cool |
08:39 | mle | Cairn hotel just North of Calton hill. Wonderful place. https://secure.wikimedia.org/w[…]/wiki/Calton_Hill |
08:40 | rangi | oh |
08:41 | tea coffee and shortcake .. im sold :) | |
08:42 | mle | Is it worth trying to get a group booking for that hotel? |
08:42 | rangi | hmm not sure, it might be, its certainly a good price |
08:42 | * magnuse | tries telling himself over and over again "there is no such thing as kohacon12" |
08:43 | rangi | sorry magnuse |
08:43 | magnuse | :-) |
08:43 | mle | are you busy during Kohacon12? |
08:43 | magnuse? | |
08:43 | wahanui | i heard magnuse was afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
08:44 | magnuse | mle: long story short: we're having a baby that is due June 26. ;-) |
08:44 | mle | yes not a great time to be away! |
08:45 | magnuse | nope |
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08:46 | mle | is it your first baby? |
08:46 | magnuse | yup |
08:46 | and now i gotta run - we're going to do an ultrasound! :-) | |
08:46 | rangi | ohhh |
08:46 | mle | : ) |
08:53 | kf | magnus_away: say hi to the little enger baby from us :) |
08:54 | mle | kf has reminded me, if there is anythign I can do here to help your planning let me know and I will see what I can do. |
08:54 | rangi | hmmm |
08:54 | kf | not exactly what I did :) |
08:54 | but htx for offering mle! mle++ | |
08:55 | mle | : ) |
09:24 | mbalmer | ok, my SIP client decodes all fields, regardless of their order |
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09:53 | mle | so still no joy with finding original koha logo art. I have the jpg. but was hoping for vector art to hack on. last call. |
09:54 | kf | mle: I think perhaps ask mtj |
09:54 | I think someone did an svg | |
09:56 | mle | ty |
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10:10 | mtj | mle: i have a koha vector files about somewhere.... |
10:11 | the catch is - it's probably traced from a hi-res gif | |
10:11 | i'll take a quick look :) | |
10:13 | kf | mtj++ :) |
10:15 | mle | mtj what is the font? |
10:20 | mtj | hmm, pass! |
10:21 | ive always been curious, myself | |
10:21 | i asked rach from katipo, she couldn't remember :) | |
10:21 | mle | hehe |
10:21 | i asked he a while ago too. : 0 | |
10:21 | : ) even | |
10:22 | well thats easy then - i get to choose ; ) | |
10:22 | kf | mle: I think it's in the logs |
10:22 | there is a website | |
10:22 | which helps you find fonts | |
10:22 | and we found one that was similar enough | |
10:22 | not sure... where in the logs... you might want to search around some | |
10:23 | mtj | yep, its a pretty generic-ish font :) |
10:23 | mle | tyvm |
10:24 | mtj | wow, i have so many dirs of backup svg files on my lappy |
10:29 | kf | mle: have you checked misc/interface_customization |
10:29 | mle | not yet. first font finder failed |
10:29 | kf | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7a12148671fa1dddd |
10:30 | mle | tyvm |
10:30 | mtj | meh, i can only find my vector-from-bitmap version of the logo |
10:30 | not the orig. one | |
10:31 | mle | tyvm for looking |
10:32 | kf | sorry mle |
10:33 | can't find the chat protocol with the link | |
10:33 | mle | i got it ky. ; ) |
10:33 | ack! | |
10:33 | kf. ; ) | |
10:33 | * mle | goes for more coffee |
10:33 | mle | ahem |
10:33 | kf | ? |
10:34 | * sekjal | follows mle, only to his own kitchen |
10:37 | * mle | cant type this morning |
10:40 | paul_p | kf one more coming to the hackfest ( juan_sieira ). We will be 34 (and will try to find a solution to have everybody sitted...) |
10:40 | kf | paul_p: wow - getting more every day |
10:40 | which is good | |
10:40 | but hope not too crowded to get work done | |
10:41 | paul_p | kf yes, i'm very happy... I hope so, that's why we're looking for an alternate room now. |
10:42 | kf | oh |
10:42 | mtj | mle: my logo is here... -> http://git.kohaaloha.com/?p=mi[…]5ddec02d4cd28e674 |
10:44 | paul_p | kf I think we will have a lot of ppl for testing/sign-offing. So you can go to the "ergonomy" group for all the week imo. |
10:44 | (if you want to) | |
10:46 | kf | I think I will see how things work out when there |
10:46 | I want to compile a list of things... bugs and patches... hopefully before next week | |
10:46 | that I want to look at / work on | |
10:47 | paul_p: you changed the menu :) | |
10:48 | paul_p | kf = it was last year menu ! |
10:48 | now it's 2012 ;-) | |
10:48 | kf | you kept the susi and pizza - I am happy |
10:49 | mbalmer | my SIP C client now is really decoding anything. |
10:49 | * mbalmer | is happy |
10:53 | paul_p | kf you'll also enjoy the "french cheese" lunch & the lebanon lunch I hope ;-) |
10:54 | kf | ;) |
10:54 | talking about food... time for lunch here | |
10:54 | and had no breakfast | |
10:54 | paul_p | wow... good lunch kf_lunch |
10:59 | sekjal | paul_p: just to confirm, hackfest is next week? |
10:59 | paul_p | sekjal yep |
10:59 | sekjal you want to come ? ;-) | |
11:00 | sekjal | very much so, but circumstances prevent |
11:00 | paul_p | (good morning) |
11:00 | sekjal | not only the new job, but also a conference in Washington DC |
11:00 | (and good morning to you, as well) | |
11:00 | (or afternoon... not sure now, since we just time-shifted here in the US) | |
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11:01 | paul_p | sekjal just 12:00 here ! |
11:01 | sekjal | ah ha! |
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11:07 | mbalmer | our SIP server is not very robust. You send it an illegal message (I did on purpose) and it goes down the abyss. |
11:07 | I guess it needs some love during the hackfest | |
11:07 | sekjal | mbalmer: yes please! |
11:08 | mbalmer | having a SIP client library surely helps |
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11:17 | mbalmer | codifying the while SIP standard is boring. |
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11:32 | clrh | juan_sieira: good news for hackfest :) |
11:33 | mbalmer | sekjal, are you using SIP? |
11:33 | juan_sieira | thank Claire |
11:34 | sekjal | mbalmer: not anymore |
11:34 | I worked with it a bit when I was with ByWater, but not since | |
11:34 | mbalmer | ok, I see. |
11:35 | I managed to connect our POS system to Koha (to pay fees etc.), it is surprisingly stable (unless you send illegal messages) | |
11:36 | sekjal | there are still some areas of the SIP2 Spec that aren't fully implemented yet, and better exception/error handling would be welcome, but yes, it works pretty well |
11:37 | what I'd like is a clean set of Perl scripts to act as a SIP client, so I can create a web front end for testing and using a SIP connection to Koha | |
11:37 | mbalmer | For now, I just check if the remote end closed the connection, and if so, I reconnect |
11:38 | well, my client is written in C (robust/fast) and I have a Lua binding. | |
11:39 | sekjal | a Perl library for SIP clientry would also allow us to create easy Koha ad-hoc lending networks. |
11:40 | * jcamins_away | was just thinking what he really wanted was a Koha ad-hoc lending network. :P |
11:40 | jcamins_away | Well, maybe not. |
11:40 | jcamins | Good morning, #koha. |
11:40 | sekjal | morning, jcamins! |
11:40 | jcamins | However, it is an intriguing idea. :) |
11:41 | mbalmer | is it common in perl to use libraries written in C? i.e. to interface C stuff from Perl? |
11:41 | sekjal | mbalmer: I don't know |
11:41 | mbalmer | like is done all the time in the Lua community |
11:41 | sekjal | I don't think that it's unheard of |
11:42 | jcamins | Pretty common. You just append _XS to the package name. |
11:42 | mbalmer | A Perl module written in C, I mean |
11:42 | Blafoo_XS ? | |
11:42 | jcamins | Right. |
11:42 | At least, that's my understanding. | |
11:42 | mbalmer | What does XS stand for? |
11:43 | jcamins | I have no idea what XS stands for, but it seems to be pretty consistent. |
11:43 | eXternal Subroutine. | |
11:43 | mtj | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XS_(Perl) |
11:43 | jcamins | There's another option called SWIG, apparently. |
11:43 | mbalmer | swig is a generator |
11:44 | 774 lines of code ;) | |
11:46 | jcamins | Does anyone know who Prosentient is? |
11:46 | sekjal | jcamins: Australian company, I believe |
11:47 | my understanding is that they have a fork of Koha they're offering, but they're not being clear that it's a fork | |
11:47 | but I could be wrong; I'm not fully educated on the details | |
11:47 | jcamins | sekjal: they seem to have forked Koha 3.2? |
11:47 | sekjal | that's believable |
11:48 | mbalmer | do they make the source code available? |
11:48 | mtj | afaik... no |
11:48 | jcamins | They don't appear to. |
11:49 | mbalmer | then they are in violation of the license and must be sued…. |
11:49 | ;) | |
11:49 | http://www.prosentient.com.au/[…]/intersearch-koha | |
11:50 | what they do seems perfectly fine to me. | |
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11:52 | jcamins | mbalmer: their FAQ discusses sysprefs that don't exist. |
11:52 | mbalmer | oh. |
11:52 | kf_lunch | Koha:IndependantSuggestions |
11:52 | SearchGlobalBranch. | |
11:53 | yeah | |
11:53 | mbalmer | bastards ;) |
11:53 | kf_lunch | itseems they also use the old editor for systempreferences |
11:53 | so 3.2 probably | |
11:54 | jcamins | kf_lunch: yeah, this question was inspired by the patch I just failed. |
11:54 | kf | and good morning jared :) |
11:54 | jcamins | (which is for 3.2) |
11:54 | Good morning. | |
11:56 | * magnuse | waves |
11:56 | jcamins | Hrm. Doesn't oleonard usually show up on #koha around now? |
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11:57 | sekjal | jcamins: could be the time-shift |
11:57 | jcamins | sekjal: oh yeah. |
11:58 | I should adjust my watch before I go out today. | |
12:00 | * jcamins | heads over to the new apartment to meet the contractors. |
12:04 | sekjal | time to head to work. cheers, #koha |
12:08 | mbalmer | kf, will you be at the swiss BIS conference in Konstanz? |
12:12 | kf | mbalmer: hm I don't hink I will |
12:12 | I think it's at the Konzil? | |
12:12 | do you have a date? | |
12:15 | mbalmer | 12.-15. Sept. yes, in the Konzil |
12:16 | kf | hm leaving for a presentation near berlin on 14th |
12:17 | will you be there? | |
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12:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
12:18 | kf | morning oleonard :) |
12:18 | next week... this time! | |
12:18 | mbalmer | kf, yes |
12:19 | kf | I think someone from BSZ will probably be there |
12:19 | mbalmer | we will have a booth as "Koha Support Schweiz" |
12:20 | kf | ah cool |
12:24 | paul_p | good morning oleonard & jcamins_away |
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12:34 | oleonard | jcamins_away was a bug-testing machine this weekend. |
12:35 | magnuse | yeah jcamins++ |
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13:02 | oleonard | Bug 7703: New bug report, old pet peeve. |
13:02 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7703 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Don't block bulk hold action on search results if some items can't be placed on hold |
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13:36 | sturmtruppen | hi #koha |
13:37 | kf | hmm |
13:37 | the italian library has qr codes | |
13:37 | hi sturmtruppen | |
13:37 | sturmtruppen | hi kf |
13:37 | i changed my problem... | |
13:38 | kf | new problem? |
13:38 | sturmtruppen | now my problem is DBD::mysql::db selectrow_array failed: Table 'koha.systempreferences' doesn't exist at /home/koha/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Context.pm line 542. |
13:38 | kf | have you run the webinstaller? |
13:39 | sturmtruppen | this is one part... make test fails! |
13:39 | kf | ah |
13:39 | running the db dependent test suite will fail | |
13:39 | because you don't have a populated database | |
13:39 | sturmtruppen | yes |
13:39 | oh,... | |
13:40 | DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Table 'koha.marc_subfield_structure' doesn't exist at /home/koha/kohaclone/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Heading/UNIMARC.pm line 69. | |
13:40 | is this the same kind of error? | |
13:41 | kf | yes |
13:41 | you can't have tables | |
13:41 | before running the webinstaller | |
13:41 | sturmtruppen | but i run only make |
13:42 | not make test or make install | |
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13:43 | sturmtruppen | Test Summary Report |
13:43 | ------------------- | |
13:43 | t/Heading_MARC21.t (Wstat: 65280 Tests: 1 Failed: 0) | |
13:43 | Non-zero exit status: 255 | |
13:43 | Parse errors: Bad plan. You planned 3 tests but ran 1. | |
13:43 | Files=89, Tests=7498, 99 wallclock secs ( 4.30 usr 1.74 sys + 61.61 cusr 11.99 csys = 79.64 CPU) | |
13:43 | Result: FAIL | |
13:43 | Failed 1/89 test programs. 0/7498 subtests failed. | |
13:43 | make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 | |
13:43 | kf | hmm |
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13:44 | kf | which version? |
13:44 | jcamins_away: around? | |
13:44 | sturmtruppen | git |
13:48 | dev installation, and following the instructions in INSTALL.debian | |
13:48 | locate mysql_config | |
13:49 | sorry, wrong monitor | |
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13:55 | Oak | guys, you know any good Koha Live cd? I mean the link? |
13:56 | uh oh, electricity will go in few minutes... | |
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13:58 | oleonard | Oak: This was announced the other day: https://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/ |
13:58 | But I haven't tried it | |
13:58 | Oak | ah cool. thanks. |
14:01 | jcamins_away | kf: yes. |
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14:02 | jcamins_away | kf: if you're referring to the Heading_MARC21.t test, I have a bug, and a patch. |
14:02 | oleonard++ | |
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14:05 | Shane-S | poop! I wanted SQL to make a Dynamic Title for a report...but alas you can not CONCAT in an AS statement *cries* |
14:06 | kf | jcamins_away: thought you might now if that is something that can be safely ignored |
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14:07 | jcamins_away | kf: it can be. |
14:07 | kf | sturmtruppen: all ok then :) |
14:07 | sturmtruppen | all ok? |
14:08 | but the "make test" tell me Result: FAIL | |
14:08 | Failed 1/89 test programs. 0/7498 subtests failed. | |
14:08 | make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 255 | |
14:08 | kf | failing the test, ignore it |
14:08 | sturmtruppen | ok. i move on |
14:11 | jcamins | Does anyone have any idea what Paolo means by "the graphical aspect of the Koha OPAC has been reshaped"? |
14:11 | kf | it looks like css mostly |
14:11 | jcamins | As far as I can tell, ther OPAC is almost completely standard. |
14:11 | kf | perhaps that :) |
14:11 | but | |
14:11 | magnuse | "we changed how it looks"? :-) |
14:11 | kf | they have qr codes |
14:12 | magnuse | where? |
14:13 | kf | items |
14:13 | last tab | |
14:13 | jcamins | Ah, interesting. |
14:13 | magnuse | link? |
14:13 | wahanui | i heard link was wrong. |
14:13 | magnuse | wahanui: forget link |
14:13 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot link |
14:13 | jcamins | http://www.galileo.aur.it/cgi-[…]?biblionumber=104 |
14:14 | magnuse | ah, thanks - i deleted the email... |
14:15 | what happens if you read the code? are you taken to that page in the opac? or something else+ | |
14:15 | s/+/?/ | |
14:15 | jcamins | magnuse: no idea. |
14:16 | magnuse: I shall photograph my screen and find out. | |
14:16 | kf | i can try |
14:16 | jcamins | It's a link to the OPAC. |
14:17 | oleonard | ...to that same page :| |
14:17 | kf | yep |
14:17 | it's a link | |
14:17 | * kf | was too slow |
14:17 | oleonard | Customized templates... I see a <FONT> :P |
14:17 | magnuse | yeah and i forgot i have a barcode reader on my mobile too :-) |
14:17 | woohoo! | |
14:18 | koha needs more <font>s - we all do! | |
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14:18 | jcamins | oleonard: how did they customize the template, though? It looks entirely vanilla. |
14:20 | How as in "what did they change?" not as in "what technique did they use." | |
14:21 | sturmtruppen | i just run the web installer |
14:22 | he says ok | |
14:23 | kf | sturmtruppen: yay :) |
14:23 | sturmtruppen | wait... i till have to start zebra.... |
14:23 | oleonard | jcamins: Besides the QR code I just see stuff that could have been changed using CSS |
14:24 | kf | oleonard: yep |
14:28 | * wizzyrea | waves |
14:32 | * jcamins | waves back. |
14:32 | * magnuse | waves back too |
14:34 | wizzyrea | oo, the filtering on holds to pull |
14:34 | I like that. | |
14:34 | Is neat. | |
14:35 | question though, the libraries filter | |
14:35 | it's coming across as "CPLMPL" | |
14:35 | and even if you have one that is in both, if you set that filter it doesn't work | |
14:35 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
14:36 | wizzyrea | hi kf |
14:36 | is that the datatables stufF? | |
14:36 | it is super cool | |
14:36 | http://screencast.com/t/5ihsYvNQ | |
14:36 | this is what I mean | |
14:37 | jcamins | francharb: around? |
14:38 | oleonard | Yes, that's datatables wizzyrea |
14:40 | jcamins | I will not be signing off on bug 7590. I can't figure out how to reproduce it. |
14:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7590 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Needs Signoff , Cataloging authorities search result page is broken |
14:41 | paul_p | a new french librarian coming to the hackfest... |
14:41 | kf | 35? |
14:41 | wizzyrea | holy smokes |
14:41 | paul_p | kf yep ;-) |
14:42 | kf | paul_p: were you able to get another room? :) |
14:42 | mbalmer | should I bring my friends ? ;) |
14:42 | jcamins | paul_p: since you're here, do you have more UNIMARC records? |
14:42 | sturmtruppen | kf... i suppose the problem is the user that own zebra. |
14:42 | jcamins | (for testing) |
14:42 | unimarc data? | |
14:42 | paul_p | kf fortunately, our neibourgh is a NPO, that has a lot of place, and we will have a room here ! |
14:42 | sturmtruppen | how can i verify mi idea? |
14:42 | kf | oh nice! |
14:42 | jcamins | unimarc data is http://git.biblibre.com/?p=dat[…]ree;f=sql/unimarc |
14:42 | paul_p | jcamins = I can send you the database I use on the sandbox. |
14:42 | kf | paul_p: marc version works with mbalmer :) |
14:42 | jcamins | paul_p: yes please! |
14:43 | kf | oops |
14:43 | veron | |
14:43 | paul_p: please send it to me too or put it up for download somehwere? | |
14:43 | paul_p | kf really ? the company is called "MARCs rule the world" ? :D |
14:44 | * paul_p | wanted to put it on contrib.git repo, but can't do it for now. |
14:44 | mbalmer | USMARC, UNIMARC, MARC21, MARCBALMER, and MARCVERON |
14:44 | paul_p | ok, meeting time, will be back soon ! |
14:44 | francharb | jcamins, i'm here but not available |
14:45 | jcamins | francharb: it's okay, paul_p is going to send me the UNIMARC data from the sandbox later. :) |
14:45 | kf | mbalmer: you know, that would be really realyl scary |
14:45 | jcamins | Don't forget RUSMARC. |
14:45 | kf | CANMARC |
14:45 | francharb | by the way, jcamins, I still have in mind that you ask me to test your patch |
14:45 | kf | NORMARC |
14:46 | francharb | I should have done it weeks ago |
14:46 | mbalmer | NEITHERNORMARC |
14:46 | jcamins | francharb: paul_p tested it on UNIMARC, so it's okay. :) |
14:46 | francharb | \0/ |
14:46 | paul_++ | |
14:46 | paul_p++ | |
14:46 | jcamins++ | |
14:46 | ;) | |
14:46 | mbalmer | crap, Sunrise does not respond to a SIP login message, but closes the connection |
14:47 | jcamins | mbalmer: better rename it to Sunset. |
14:47 | mbalmer | yes. |
14:47 | but it's nice to test SIP against it. | |
14:48 | wizzyrea | bug 7619 |
14:48 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , 3M self checkout don't work in France |
14:49 | * jcamins | hums Fiddler on the Roof. |
14:52 | kf | wizzyrea: I think we should not change it back |
14:52 | wizzyrea: perhaps we need a configuration option | |
14:53 | sturmtruppen | nothing for me? |
14:54 | kf | what is your current problem sturmtruppen? |
14:54 | sturmtruppen | how can i see who is the user of zebra? |
14:55 | wizzyrea | maximep - did you say your mobile solution was CSS only? |
14:55 | if you're about. | |
14:55 | sturmtruppen | zebraidx(23158) [warn] zebra_lock_create fail fname=/home/koha/koha-dev/var/lock/zebradb/biblios/norm..LCK [Permission denied] |
14:55 | my suppose was right, as you suggest, kf | |
14:57 | kf | yeah permissions again |
14:57 | make your koha user the owner of the zebra files | |
14:57 | sturmtruppen | ok, i'll try. |
14:57 | i'm suer i'll write here agian fo my failure in it... | |
14:57 | :) | |
15:02 | maximep | wizzyrea: css + 2 lines in the header |
15:02 | wizzyrea | what's the URL again? |
15:03 | maximep | pretty sure marc boivin from libeo talked about it on the ML |
15:03 | sturmtruppen | http://www.galileo.aur.it/cgi-[…]?biblionumber=104 |
15:03 | maximep | http://www.mail-archive.com/ko[…]org/msg02887.html |
15:03 | wizzyrea | maximep++ thx |
15:03 | sturmtruppen | doh'... |
15:03 | maximep | he would really like feedback from anyone btw |
15:10 | mbalmer | hmm, it seem like it is not possible to get fee details via SIP, only the sum of all fees. Is that so? |
15:10 | wizzyrea | I believe that's right |
15:11 | mbalmer | crap. The I think I need to extend the protocol and inform 3M of that extension |
15:12 | s/The/Then/ | |
15:12 | sturmtruppen | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs |
15:12 | wahanui | i heard YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs was the long answer |
15:12 | sturmtruppen | sorry.... |
15:12 | yes yes yes yes yes yes yes | |
15:13 | kf | it works? |
15:13 | sturmtruppen | again: yes |
15:13 | kf | congratulations :) |
15:13 | mbalmer | the fee paid message has field CG, to identify a specific fee |
15:13 | sturmtruppen | permission problem |
15:13 | solved | |
15:13 | another problem for my hero... | |
15:14 | oleonard | I'm impressed that wahanui knows the exact spelling of "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEs" |
15:14 | sturmtruppen | in the ISBD format, the ISBN is wrong, |
15:15 | in the athoer label, it's right | |
15:15 | i suppose there is an error in the query | |
15:15 | how can i see if is it right? | |
15:16 | kf | ? |
15:17 | sturmtruppen | after the search, i i choose the label "ISBD" |
15:17 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: I recommend simply disabling the ISBD view. |
15:17 | sturmtruppen | the field: "ISBN" display "Milano" instead of "8840813241" |
15:18 | "LCCN" display the right isbn | |
15:18 | oleonard | sturmtruppen: I don't find that to be the case with the default ISBD configuration |
15:19 | sturmtruppen | oleonard: ? |
15:19 | kf | sturmtruppen: perhaps something in your data |
15:19 | oh | |
15:19 | did you use marc21 or unimarc? | |
15:19 | sturmtruppen | unimarc |
15:19 | kf | and where did you download the record from? |
15:19 | jcamins | sturmtruppen: you'll probably have to modify the ISBD syspref if you don't like the way it shows up. As I said, though, I'd recommend simply disabling it since it doesn't really have any use as far as I can tell. |
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15:19 | sturmtruppen | because italian opac.sbn.it support unimarc |
15:20 | * jcamins | leaves for the post office and Manhattan. |
15:20 | sturmtruppen | jcamins: thanks for the tip! This is a work for the school where i teach but i want to learn to how koha works! |
15:26 | mbalmer | so I need to extend SIP to provide fee detail information and feedback which fees have been paid, which have been canceled etc. |
15:26 | that will be some fun | |
15:34 | does Lori Bowen Ayre or Ian Walls hang out in this channel? | |
15:34 | wizzyrea | ping sekjal |
15:34 | ping lba | |
15:34 | oleonard | Lori not very often. sekjal often. |
15:34 | mbalmer | ok, cool, tnx |
15:36 | a cool self payment machine would list all individual fees a patron has, and let them select which ones to pay now, and which ones to leave open. | |
15:37 | and lba, sekjal seem to have been involved in the Fee paid support in the SIP server | |
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15:38 | * mbalmer | waves at mveron |
15:38 | mveron | Hi #koha |
15:38 | * mveron | Waves back to mbalmer. |
15:41 | Shane-S | is it easy to change the timeout? I want to make a room here where teacher can "checkout" books, and have a kiosk logged in all the time for them to easily scan an ID and checkout all the books/movies they need, would that be hard? |
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15:42 | kf | Shane-S: changing the timeout is not a good idea - it's the same for staff and opac |
15:42 | Shane-S: you could look at the self check | |
15:42 | Shane-S: web based self check that is | |
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15:43 | schuster | Shane-S - yes that sounds like what you need. |
15:43 | self checkout | |
15:43 | Shane-S | ah okay :P |
15:43 | kf | check the manual :) is has instructions |
15:44 | matthewboh | Quick question about Koha install - it used to use different ports for OPAC and Staff interface. Is that still the case? |
15:44 | mbalmer | when I started this, it ws not my intend to hack the SIP server. But at least, unlike with Sunrise, here it's possible to extend the protocol/server. |
15:44 | sekjal | matthewboh: by default, yes, port :80 for OPAC and port :8080 for staff client |
15:44 | you can adjust that however you wish, of course | |
15:45 | mbalmer | matthewboh, very easy to run them both on the same port (with different hostnames, of cours) |
15:45 | matthewboh | Thanks so much for the quick answer. |
15:45 | mbalmer | sekjal, you seem to have been involved with the fee paid SIP message, correct? |
15:46 | sekjal | mbalmer: yes |
15:46 | mbalmer | do you know any folks at 3M? It looks like I will need to extend the protocol a bit wrt to fee payment. |
15:46 | sekjal | the bulk of the code was written by PTFS-Europe; I tested it, and added some followup modifications based on my client's feedback |
15:47 | mbalmer: no, I didn't get as far as talking to the 3M people | |
15:47 | sturmtruppen | Syck parser (line 300, column -1): syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/YAML/Syck.pm line 76, <$fh> line 1. |
15:47 | For help, please send mail to the webmaster (webmasterkoha), giving this error message and the time and date of the error | |
15:47 | sekjal | it was in the works when I left ByWater... they may have more up to date info |
15:47 | mbalmer | sekjal, do you know the folks at PTFS or any folks I should contact? |
15:48 | to share infos and code? | |
15:48 | sekjal | mbalmer: colin campbell |
15:51 | kf | mbalmer: ptfs europe |
15:52 | mbalmer | so is colin campbell hanging around here? |
15:52 | sekjal | mbalmer: I don't think so... I don't see his nick |
15:53 | mbalmer | I think I got his email. at least one to try. |
15:53 | kf | mbalmer: extending the format sounds a bit dangerous - perhaps I would go for standard compliant first |
15:53 | oleonard | @seen colin |
15:53 | huginn | oleonard: colin was last seen in #koha 1 year, 9 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 51 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <Colin> Colin Campbell, PTFS Europe Ltd |
15:54 | kf | @seen ColinC |
15:54 | huginn | kf: ColinC was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 5 days, 3 hours, 16 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <ColinC> And look at their technical stuff I found I knew less after I read it |
15:54 | mbalmer | kf, standard does not cover what we need, but standard says "unknown messages must be ignored to be compatible with future extensions" |
15:55 | so it should be safe to add extensions all the more as the ACS only responds to the SC messages, it can not break exisitng installs. | |
15:56 | extending the protocol was a misnomer. adding a new message and response would be correct. | |
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16:21 | reiveune | bye |
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16:44 | jcamins_away | sturmtruppen: if you don't figure out how ISBD works, I don't think you'll be missing out on much. As I said, I don't think it really has any use at this point. |
16:44 | jcamins | oleonard: you should be receiving a package on Wednesday or Thursday. |
16:44 | * oleonard | solemnly swears to share |
16:45 | jcamins | :) |
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16:46 | oleonard | jcamins: I'm still perplexed about the local image load time |
16:46 | kf | oleonard: stay away from reiveune ! |
16:46 | jcamins | oleonard: yeah, that's really weird. |
16:46 | kf | witht he package :) |
16:47 | oleonard | I stripped out all the JavaScript and have the template displaying the image (no JS loading), and the load time is still 5 seconds each |
16:47 | kf | ouch |
16:47 | jcamins | That's bizarre. |
16:47 | When I ran it with NYTProf, it took 300ms. | |
16:48 | oleonard | If I point my browser to the image URL it doesn't take 5 seconds |
16:48 | jcamins | That's *really* bizarre. I was going to say "maybe it's an Apache transferring thing, not that there should be any such issue." |
16:49 | mbalmer | it is strange that SIP defines a field CG, fee identifier, but now way to list open fees. I wonder if I oversee sth, but I doubt not. |
16:52 | oleonard | jcamins: Could there be some kind of overhead in repeatedly calling the opac-images script which wouldn't be noticeable in a single call? |
16:52 | * oleonard | tried loading a single image with a biblionumber URL parameter to make sure it wasn't cached, those loaded fine |
16:53 | jcamins | oleonard: I guess it's possible. |
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16:53 | jcamins | oleonard: hard to see how, though. |
16:55 | @seen libsysguy | |
16:55 | huginn | jcamins: libsysguy was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 19 hours, 42 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <libsysguy> thanks :) |
16:56 | jcamins | I thought it had been a while. Vacation? |
16:56 | And, welcome back, libsysguy. | |
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16:57 | libsysguy | haha no just a lot of work outside of koha sadly |
16:57 | thanks jcamins | |
16:57 | jcamins | Well, welcome back to fun-ness. |
16:57 | libsysguy | hehe |
16:57 | jcamins | You'll be glad to know that I am not going to be bugging you to test 7284. |
16:57 | libsysguy | i thought I saw where that got pushed |
16:58 | or at least passed | |
16:58 | jcamins | Yup. :) |
16:58 | libsysguy | P |
16:58 | jcamins | Pushed. |
16:58 | libsysguy | w00t |
16:58 | what is the next jcamins project? | |
16:59 | jcamins | libsysguy: I'm not sure. I have a bunch of enhancements filed in Bugzilla. |
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16:59 | jcamins | libsysguy: I guess it depends what other people are most interested in. |
17:00 | libsysguy | haha…hmm libsysguy is interested in hourly |
17:00 | :P | |
17:00 | jcamins | I'd kind of like to see the see-from references searched (optionally), so possibly that. |
17:03 | sekjal | jcamins: arbitrary biblio relationships! |
17:04 | jcamins | sekjal: that'd be great, but I don't see anyone being interested in funding that. |
17:04 | sekjal | true enough... |
17:06 | * jcamins | has all sorts of projects he'd like to work on like that. ;) |
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17:15 | sekjal | jcamins oleonard: just tried the local images on my test machine. it's loading the image twice, at about 530ms each (entirely on localhost) |
17:15 | oleonard | sekjal are you testing the search results page? |
17:16 | sekjal | details |
17:17 | oleonard | It's on the results page that I'm seeing the long delays |
17:17 | sekjal | k |
17:17 | need to reindex, then I'll try a search | |
17:23 | ::sigh:: my Zebra search is fried | |
17:24 | jcamins | sekjal: how so? |
17:24 | sekjal | just won't return any results |
17:24 | not sure why | |
17:24 | mbalmer | that's not a lot. |
17:24 | jcamins | And the Zebra server is running? |
17:24 | sekjal: the solution that I've taken to using when I break my Zebra config is to just rerun make install. | |
17:25 | sekjal | ah ha |
17:25 | it wasn't running, because my permissions were wrong in koha-dev | |
17:25 | this test box is wicked clunky.. | |
17:26 | oleonard: getting about 630ms per search result for image retrieval | |
17:27 | oddly enough, no image found takes just as long as downloading an actual file | |
17:27 | jcamins | sekjal: really? |
17:27 | I mean, that it's only 630ms. | |
17:27 | That's odd. | |
17:27 | I had the same issue as oleonard. | |
17:28 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4Iwoo0Kdo |
17:28 | oleonard | sekjal: Are you using Firebug to track the time? |
17:28 | sekjal | oleonard: yes |
17:32 | oleonard | Hmm... a symptom of a low-resource VM? |
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17:34 | sekjal | oleonard: could it be a limit on the number of images downloadable from a single server at once |
17:34 | ? | |
17:35 | jcamins | sekjal: are you using VirtualBox or something else? |
17:35 | sekjal | jcamins: VirtualBox, yes |
17:35 | jcamins | Hm. |
17:35 | sekjal | Windows Host, Ubuntu guest |
17:36 | oleonard | If I'm not mistaken, sekjal, firebug is taking that into account. The grey part of the graph represents the delay caused by waiting for an available connection, the purple represents time spent processing |
17:38 | sekjal | oleonard: it's all purple on both search results I retrieved |
17:38 | jcamins | sekjal: oh, you only have two results? |
17:39 | oleonard | sekjal: http://www.screencast.com/t/W6GJEtAIG |
17:40 | sekjal | oleonard: do you have indexes on biblioimages.biblionumber in your database? |
17:41 | jcamins | sekjal: ooh, did I forget to put an index on that? |
17:41 | sekjal | jcamins: it's indexed on mine |
17:41 | but i manually renamed from bibliocoverimage to biblioimages | |
17:42 | jcamins | Hm. You may be right about it not being indexed. |
17:42 | huginn | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_7458' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2cb7a46cf49530aef> / bug_7458: Correct existing existing call numbers retrieval <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9ba865a1d4fe5fb1> / Bug 7577 follow-up <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]h=e0115a8f43ea9b9 |
17:42 | oleonard | bibliocoverimage_fk1 |
17:43 | jcamins | Ah. Right. Foreign keys create indexes. |
17:45 | sekjal: testing with NYTProf, retrieving a single image only takes a few hundred milliseconds, so it's probably not anything about the database. | |
17:45 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #652 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #644 5 j 1 h ago) |
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18:09 | oleonard | Thinking about load times reminds me of Bug 1918 |
18:09 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1918 enhancement, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Minify JavaScript and CSS |
18:12 | jcamins | sekjal: working on the mobile interface? :) |
18:14 | mle | I broke the wiki. |
18:14 | I broke the wiki. Warning: mkdir() [function.mkdir]: Permission denied in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2176 | |
18:14 | Warning: wfMkdirParents: failed to mkdir "/home/wiki/web/w/images/thumb/archive/20120312180712!Koha-logo12.png" mode 511 in /home/wiki/web/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 2179 | |
18:15 | cait | oh |
18:15 | where? | |
18:15 | mle | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e:Koha-logo12.png |
18:15 | maybe because it is over 50kb? image? | |
18:15 | cait | ooh |
18:15 | it works for me | |
18:15 | mle | cool |
18:15 | cait | and it's beautiful! |
18:15 | mle | aww ty |
18:15 | sturmtruppen | very nice |
18:16 | oleonard | I see the errors at the top of the page but the page loads |
18:16 | cait | make a note of the font! |
18:16 | sturmtruppen | me too |
18:16 | cait | no errors for me |
18:17 | sturmtruppen | mle: made with? |
18:18 | mle | inkscape and gimp and some allegedly open source font |
18:18 | and ripped off from debconf7 | |
18:18 | http://media.debconf.org/dc7/l[…]banner-split1.png | |
18:18 | oleonard | Very strange mystery here. We got a shipment from Baker & Talor which we didn't order. When we asked why they said that our Koha acquisitions module submitted the order! |
18:18 | sturmtruppen | thanks for the info. very nice |
18:18 | jcamins | oleonard: wasn't me, because I didn't use Baker and Taylor to ship the fudge. ;) |
18:19 | oleonard | In what world would Koha submit an order directly to Baker & Taylor? |
18:20 | cait | |
18:20 | sekjal | jcamins: I've been looking at it, yes |
18:20 | cait | hm |
18:20 | no only for calims | |
18:21 | sekjal | the big thing I think we need is a consistent set of input and output params on each page |
18:21 | jcamins | sekjal: agreed. |
18:21 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
18:21 | @wunder 93109 | |
18:21 | hmmm | |
18:21 | sekjal | then we'd be able to make as many templates as we like |
18:21 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.1°C (11:20 AM PDT on March 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). |
18:21 | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 13.1°C (11:20 AM PDT on March 12, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). | |
18:21 | jcamins | And I think you're just the person to do that! |
18:22 | sekjal | I can identify what we're currently using, and perhaps what could be added/removed |
18:22 | but agreeing to it, and policing it, would be a community-wide job | |
18:22 | we'd have to have a policy in place; no new params within a stable release | |
18:23 | jcamins | Well, yes, but without actual code, agreeing on things wouldn't actually help much. ;) |
18:23 | oleonard | an example of responsive web design: http://stephencaver.com/ Shink your browser window to see it change |
18:23 | sekjal | jcamins: true enough. though I think this would be more charts and diagrams than code |
18:24 | jcamins | That is beautiful. |
18:24 | oleonard | Wouldn't Koha require EDI support to submit an order directly to a vendor? Is that what EDI does? |
18:24 | cait | oleonard: but means the vendor also has to support edi |
18:24 | jcamins | oleonard: that's my understanding. |
18:24 | cait | I think emailing ordersis much more common |
18:24 | and we can't do that even | |
18:25 | oleonard | Baker & Taylor received an order from us from the future? |
18:25 | cait | lol |
18:25 | * oleonard | doesn't want to live in a future in which we were ordering extra copies of Sarah Palin's biography!! |
18:26 | cait | could it be someone was testing |
18:26 | and sent a claim instead of an order? | |
18:26 | that looked like an order to them? | |
18:26 | that can happen quite easily by accident | |
18:26 | oleonard | We don't use acquisitions at all. No vendor data in our database. |
18:27 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #652: STILL UNSTABLE in 41 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/652/ |
18:27 | * jonathan.druart: Bug 7577: Adds a display page for suggestions | |
18:27 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7577 follow-up | |
18:27 | * srdjan: bug_7458: Correct existing existing call numbers retrieval | |
18:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7577 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Suggestion show page |
18:27 | cait | oh |
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18:53 | jwagner | /quit |
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18:59 | oleonard | Client side validation of the add item form is completely broken. |
18:59 | cait | :( |
18:59 | wizzyrea | ! |
18:59 | seems like I just looked at a patch for that recently | |
19:00 | define completely broken | |
19:00 | oleonard | It completely misidentifies which fields are mandatory |
19:00 | I think because the order in which the fields are generated differs from the order in which they are output in the template | |
19:00 | wizzyrea | you probably don't have jquery customizations on your test server |
19:01 | mine seems alright... | |
19:01 | * wizzyrea | marks more fields required |
19:03 | oleonard | In my system, for instance, the script thinks 952 a is at index [0]. It is output to the page at index[8]. so instead of warning me that 952a is empty, it warns me that 952 0 is empty |
19:03 | wizzyrea | oh I SEE |
19:03 | yea, mine's doing that too | |
19:18 | edveal | I am looking to yellow highlight the background of a single line in the detailed display. Specifically the class="results_summary online_resources" Any suggestions? |
19:19 | jcamins | .online_resources { background-color:yellow; } ? |
19:19 | wizzyrea | in your opac or intranet usercss |
19:19 | edveal | Duuuu |
19:19 | Thanks...LOL | |
19:19 | wizzyrea | :) |
19:19 | edveal | It is Monday. I was trying to make it much harder than it is... LOL |
19:19 | jcamins | wizzyrea: does intranet use results_summary? |
19:20 | wizzyrea | i thought cait added it |
19:20 | maybe not | |
19:20 | jcamins | I don't recall. |
19:20 | cait | me niether |
19:20 | i thought i did | |
19:20 | jcamins | Then you probably did. |
19:20 | cait | or not :) |
19:22 | jcamins | Agreed. |
19:25 | oleonard | Are lines in the add item form for things like "total checkouts" there because the script require that they be submitted even if they are not displayed? |
19:25 | * oleonard | is wondering why we output them at all even if they are display:none |
19:27 | sekjal | oleonard: good question |
19:30 | oleonard | jquery's each() function seems to hit elements which are display:none, but jquery's eq() function does not :P |
19:41 | Hmm... maybe that's not it after all... | |
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20:04 | oleonard | Okay, additem validation should now work |
20:04 | wizzyrea | bug? |
20:04 | wahanui | well, bug is always bad news, particularly if you haven't filed it yet. |
20:05 | oleonard | Yes |
20:05 | * wizzyrea | will qa/signoff right now |
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20:05 | oleonard | Fixed it in an update to Bug 7670 |
20:05 | wizzyrea | more signoff. |
20:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7670 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , make required fields red in additem.pl |
20:05 | wizzyrea | cool |
20:07 | rangi | oleonard++ |
20:07 | cait | oleonard++ |
20:07 | * jcamins | decides to call it a day. |
20:07 | jcamins | So long, #koha. |
20:07 | cait | you deserve it :) |
20:07 | oleonard | Bye jcamins |
20:08 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I like it |
20:08 | * wizzyrea | signs off |
20:10 | wizzyrea | I like that better, actually |
20:10 | than the old way. | |
20:10 | * oleonard | suspects now catalogers will complain about how bright red the field labels are :P |
20:11 | cait | :) |
20:14 | * libsysguy | just wrote my first perl crawler :) |
20:15 | * oleonard | calls it a day too |
20:15 | cait | have a nice evening oleonard |
20:15 | oleonard | pretty soon you all are going to have to admit it's a day |
20:16 | * cait | is already there |
20:16 | rangi | ohhh |
20:16 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]x-Koha-logo12.png | |
20:16 | mle++ | |
20:17 | wizzyrea | preeeetttyyyy |
20:17 | cait | mle++ |
20:28 | mbalmer | edinburgh rules |
20:30 | Space_Librarian | *sighs* |
20:31 | mle++ | |
20:35 | mbalmer | err, should I also mle++? what's it about? |
20:36 | rangi | that logo he made |
20:36 | wizzyrea | mle++ |
20:37 | mbalmer | the kohacon12 logo? definitely deserves a "++" |
20:37 | bag | I wanna go :( |
20:37 | Space_Librarian | bag, me too |
20:37 | * mbalmer | will go |
20:37 | * wizzyrea | can't, no $$ in the budget :( |
20:38 | * Space_Librarian | can't - too far away for work to justify sending me. :( |
20:38 | mbalmer | wizzyrea, they take GBP, not $$ |
20:39 | wizzyrea | then there are not enough dollars -> GBP in the budget |
20:39 | mbalmer | hmm, the kerning on that logo is wrong. |
20:39 | wizzyrea | oh god, bad kerning. |
20:39 | * wizzyrea | recalls the xkcd |
20:40 | mbalmer | the kerning is really bad, actually |
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21:01 | mle | mbalmer> hmm, the kerning on that logo is wrong. |
21:01 | 20:40 < mbalmer> the kerning is really bad, actually | |
21:01 | ok. lets sort it | |
21:02 | can you describe how it could be better? | |
21:02 | i dont want bad kerning | |
21:03 | * mle | googles for the xkcd |
21:03 | * wizzyrea | will find it for you |
21:04 | wizzyrea | http://www.xkcd.com/1015/ |
21:04 | mle | i got it |
21:04 | : ) | |
21:05 | mbalmer | mle, well look at the text |
21:05 | * mle | <3 xkcd |
21:05 | * wizzyrea | too |
21:05 | mle | whcih bit of the text |
21:05 | the 12 or the koha / con? | |
21:06 | mbalmer | the distance between the first o and h is to large imo |
21:06 | * mle | has been looking at the text for a while now |
21:06 | mle | ok |
21:06 | i was workign with what i was given | |
21:06 | wizzyrea | well koha is spaced, and it looks like con maybe isn't |
21:06 | mle | ty wizzyrea |
21:07 | wizzyrea | mbalmer may be more of an expert at it than me though |
21:07 | mle | argh |
21:07 | i can't replace the 'koha' since the font isnt exact, and i cant find the font | |
21:07 | and the new one now looks wrong | |
21:08 | the 'k' is too curly | |
21:08 | and we don't seem to know what the original font it | |
21:08 | s/it/is | |
21:08 | meh | |
21:08 | wizzyrea | oh gee, i used to know |
21:08 | * mle | tries kerning |
21:08 | wizzyrea | sec |
21:08 | * mle | also wishes that mediawiki woudl accept svg so that others could sort the kerning. : ) |
21:09 | cait | :) |
21:09 | mbalmer | mle, you know what? in the end this logo is just nice. there is always details to make better, but the software itself is not perfect either ;) |
21:09 | mle | dammit kerning is improtant |
21:09 | ; ) | |
21:09 | * wizzyrea | giggles |
21:10 | mbalmer | sure, lerning means life ;) |
21:10 | err, kerning | |
21:10 | * mle | giggles |
21:10 | mbalmer | one pixel less to the left ;) |
21:11 | mle | : P |
21:12 | mbalmer | and when we meet in edinburgh, I will tell you that the kerning was bad ;P |
21:12 | rangi | i vote we toss a caber at ppl who say that |
21:13 | * wizzyrea | gets the popcorn |
21:13 | * rangi | just wants to see caber tossing |
21:13 | mbalmer | rangi, I want to see the loha dev that really tosses the caber 180 degrees... |
21:14 | * wizzyrea | looks on youtube for this |
21:14 | wizzyrea | oooh, definitely popcorn-worthy |
21:14 | mbalmer | tossing the caber is fun. |
21:15 | eythian | hi wahanui |
21:15 | wahanui | niihau, eythian |
21:15 | wizzyrea | http://www.youtube.com/watch?N[…]een&v=lrLNqw0UWQA |
21:15 | cait | hey eythian |
21:18 | mbalmer | koha highland games.. |
21:18 | wizzyrea | sounds terrifying. |
21:18 | mbalmer | do we have to wear kilts during kohacon2012? |
21:18 | cait | more amazing |
21:18 | wizzyrea | that would be so awesome. |
21:19 | * mle | wonders if there is any re-enacting going on |
21:19 | mle | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e:Koha-logo12.png |
21:19 | re-kerned and mroe errors | |
21:19 | wiki errors | |
21:19 | but re-kerned | |
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21:19 | mle | pls check for kerning |
21:20 | mbalmer | mle, I could re-enact as librarian ;) |
21:20 | * wizzyrea | thinks it's better |
21:20 | is not an expert | |
21:20 | Space_Librarian | while you lovely people are making me envious. I really want to go to kohacon... riddle me this. Can one turn the cart option off in the OPAC (silly, I know, but can it be done?) |
21:20 | mle | mbalmer is the kerning better? |
21:20 | wizzyrea | I thought so |
21:20 | mib_e754xo | yes |
21:20 | * wizzyrea | looks in the prefs. |
21:20 | mib_e754xo | go to admin page for opac |
21:20 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: you can, yes. |
21:20 | mib_e754xo | turn of bookbag |
21:20 | mbalmer | I get ons of errors on that page |
21:21 | mle | me too |
21:21 | mib_e754xo | Can you turn off lists? |
21:21 | * wizzyrea | didn't get any |
21:21 | mle | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s/Koha-logo12.png try that then |
21:21 | mbalmer | we should do a tossing the caber session at kohacon12 |
21:21 | Space_Librarian | turn off bookbag? |
21:21 | wizzyrea | yep |
21:21 | * Space_Librarian | looks for bookbag |
21:21 | wizzyrea | opacbookbag |
21:22 | cait | lists is virtualshelves i think |
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21:27 | mib_e754xo | that didn't do it. |
21:27 | Is koha deployable on CentOs 5? | |
21:27 | wizzyrea | doable? yes. Advisable? probably not. |
21:27 | jcamins_away | mib_e754xo: not easily. |
21:28 | Space_Librarian | got it. Right, the reason for this people keep emailing us .iso lists from the cart, and it comes up as anonymous - we don't know who they are, and can't follow up with them - is there a way around this? |
21:28 | jcamins_away | mib_e754xo: if you spend enough time, you can make it work, but it'll be very unpleasant. |
21:28 | mib_e754xo | what's the best system, debian? |
21:28 | jcamins_away | mib_e754xo: Debian, Ubuntu, something apt-based. |
21:28 | mib_e754xo | Has anyone ever deployed koha on a GoDaddy server? |
21:28 | wizzyrea | I think that would not go well. |
21:29 | jcamins_away | mib_e754xo: I don't think it can be done, sorry. |
21:29 | You need a VPS. | |
21:29 | eythian | wizzyrea: nice understatement there :) |
21:29 | jcamins_away | mib_e754xo: you should change your nick. I can't pronounce it in my mind. ;) |
21:29 | wizzyrea | I do my best. |
21:29 | eythian | jcamins: eetesazho |
21:29 | if you parse it as leet speak | |
21:30 | Space_Librarian | l337 5p34k |
21:30 | jcamins | eythian: I rest my case. |
21:31 | mib_e754xo | How can I doll up the url for the intranet |
21:31 | ? | |
21:31 | right now it is 192.168.1.66/opac or something | |
21:31 | I am building a library system for my college, and have it deployed on Ubuntu 10.10 | |
21:32 | jcamins | mib_e754xo: you use DNS and virtual hosts. |
21:32 | mib_e754xo | virtual hosts? |
21:32 | jcamins | In Apache. |
21:32 | virtual hosts are http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2[…]sts/examples.html | |
21:34 | I guess a heading flipper script a la bug 7418 should probably come before handling see-from references in searches. | |
21:34 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7418 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, NEW , Add heading flipper script |
21:35 | mib_e754xo | how do I configure the DNS, at the router? |
21:35 | jcamins | mib_e754xo: you don't do it at the router. |
21:36 | mib_e754xo: you have campus IT set up the DNS for you. | |
21:36 | mib_e754xo | I can do it server side? or do I have to individual fix the hosts file client-side? |
21:36 | I see. | |
21:36 | we don't serve our own DNS. | |
21:36 | I think we use Google's | |
21:36 | jcamins | mib_e754xo: you either have IT set it up on the DNS server (better), or you edit /etc/hosts on every single client. |
21:37 | Oh, your college doesn't have a website? | |
21:37 | mib_e754xo | It does, but we are not hosting the library online, as we host our website through a GoDaddy server |
21:37 | jcamins | That's a little outside the scope of what we can help you with, I think. |
21:38 | mib_e754xo | can I have a link that forwards to it and disguises the url? |
21:39 | jcamins | mib_e754xo: I don't know, sorry. |
21:39 | * jcamins | runs his own servers. |
21:39 | mib_e754xo | allrighty then. Thanks for the help! |
21:45 | mle | mbalmer: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]s/Koha-logo12.png better? (good enough?) |
21:45 | mbalmer | mle, way betterer |
21:45 | mle | ty. well the first was a draft anyhow |
21:45 | ; ) | |
21:46 | mbalmer | great logo. |
21:46 | am looking forward to the event. | |
21:46 | mle | well your re-enactment comment got me thining |
21:46 | Space_Librarian | mle - I love the castle. It looks awesome. |
21:47 | mle | /s/thining/thinking even |
21:47 | the castle is actually Teviot | |
21:47 | the venue itself | |
21:47 | (I think) | |
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21:50 | * mbalmer | buys a kilt |
21:50 | mbalmer | reminds me of a joke |
21:51 | "oh, btw, what is worn underneath your kilt?" | |
21:51 | scotsman: "nothing is worn, it's all in perfect order!" | |
21:52 | Space_Librarian | lol |
21:54 | * wizzyrea | nods sagely |
21:55 | wizzyrea | that's what they all say. |
21:55 | hm, that came out wrong-ish. | |
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22:33 | mtj | the spacing looks ok on the kohacon-12 logo, to me |
22:37 | rangi | im replying jcamins |
22:37 | jcamins | rangi: I replied already. |
22:37 | rangi | oh ill reply too |
22:38 | jcamins | My response was even diplomatic, I think. |
22:38 | rangi | explaining patches should be written for master not specific branches |
22:39 | jcamins | Makes sense. |
22:39 | rangi | yours was more diplomatic than mine ;) |
22:40 | jcamins | Though, I don't think I'd provide much support for 3.2.x either. |
22:40 | rangi | :) |
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22:53 | Judit | morning |
22:54 | Space_Librarian | morning |
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22:57 | mtj | morning Judit |
22:57 | Judit1 | hi knitta, mtj |
22:58 | mtj | wow, beer and programming -> https://www.linux.com/images/s[…]es/brewtarget.png |
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22:58 | rangi | hi Judit1 |
22:58 | sup NateC | |
22:59 | eythian | hello Judit1 |
22:59 | mtj: you program _without_ beer sometimes? How does that work? | |
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23:02 | mtj | well, first i make a nice espresso... :) |
23:07 | eythian | it'll never catch on |
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23:29 | mle | /away zzZZzz |
23:29 | even |
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