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| 02:06 | miltsNZ joined #koha | |
| 02:08 | Space_Librarian | hey all, I'd like to introduce one of my awesome staff to the channel - miltsNZ is going to set the library world on fire one of these days. So it's good to have him online. :) |
| 02:09 | rangi | :) |
| 02:09 | hi miltsNZ | |
| 02:09 | miltsNZ | hah cheers for the overstated intro :) |
| 02:09 | jcamins_away | Welcome to #koha, miltsNZ. |
| 02:11 | Space_Librarian | not by much. :p |
| 02:17 | miltsNZ | I'm actually just having my first real play in the Koha MARC frameworks and was curious about something I couldn't find documentation... |
| 02:18 | does anyone know if it's possible to set up a framework which will autopopulate certain fields with some pre-set information every time you create a record using that framework? | |
| 02:18 | rangi | using plugins yep, but you'd have to write the plugins |
| 02:18 | miltsNZ | e.g. creating a framework for course papers, and wanting a specific entry in the 540 field to be added automatically |
| 02:19 | ah cheers | |
| 02:19 | a little beyond my purview atm | |
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| 02:25 | druthb | o/ |
| 02:36 | bag | hi druthb |
| 02:38 | druthb | hi, bag! |
| 02:39 | how's the BEST BOSS EVAR doing tonight? | |
| 02:47 | wahanui: bag? | |
| 02:47 | wahanui | I LIKE BASEBALL |
| 02:48 | * druthb | nods. |
| 03:09 | jcamins_away | Space_Librarian: tell miltsNZ that you can do that by setting the default value in the framework. |
| 03:09 | I do it all the time. | |
| 03:11 | Woohoo! Third most signoffs in 3.6.4! | |
| 03:20 | Space_Librarian | jcamins_away: I will - thanks so much! He was pretty impressed with the IRC - he'll be back. :) |
| 03:21 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 03:21 | * druthb | squees and waves at Space_Librarian. |
| 03:22 | Space_Librarian | :D hey druthb! |
| 03:23 | druthb | :D |
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| 03:27 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:29 | * druthb | waves to Amit_Gupta. |
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| 03:30 | * druthb | updates her first stable test server to 3.6.4. |
| 03:31 | Amit_Gupta | heya druthb |
| 03:32 | * druthb | updates two more, Just Because. |
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| 04:00 | Space_Librarian | Adieu, until tomorrow! :) |
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| 04:35 | eythian | is it possible to make item types show up in the search results? Insofar as this question makes sense... |
| 04:35 | I know the MARC item type shows up, but that's next to useless. | |
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| 04:44 | mib_c56cpx | hello |
| 04:44 | wahanui | bonjour, mib_c56cpx |
| 04:45 | mib_c56cpx | can anybody help me |
| 04:45 | eythian | I don't know. Can they? |
| 04:45 | mib_c56cpx | i want my users to login using their google apps email id |
| 04:45 | is it possible? | |
| 04:45 | eythian | hmm. Not that I'm aware of. |
| 04:46 | I have no idea how one would go about authenticating against a google apps account. | |
| 04:46 | mib_c56cpx | ok.. |
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| 04:46 | eythian | I assume most bigger places do the reverse, and have google authenticating against some system of theirs, or some such. |
| 04:46 | mib_c56cpx | do you have any idea who would be able to answer my question? |
| 04:47 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 04:47 | mib_c56cpx | i need this google apps koha integration |
| 04:47 | eythian | I'm pretty sure I'm right, that it's not currently possible. However if you want to be sure, best email the koha users mailing list. |
| 04:47 | mib_c56cpx | whr can i find that |
| 04:47 | eythian | If there's a way to implement it, I'm sure you'd be able to find someone willing to do the development. |
| 04:47 | wahanui: email lists | |
| 04:47 | wahanui | eythian: sorry... |
| 04:47 | eythian | oh |
| 04:47 | one moment... | |
| 04:47 | wahanui: mailing list | |
| 04:47 | wahanui | i guess mailing list is at http://koha-community.org/supp[…]ha-mailing-lists/ |
| 04:48 | eythian | ah, there we go. |
| 04:48 | mib_c56cpx: ^^ | |
| 04:48 | mib_c56cpx | thanks wahanui |
| 04:49 | eythian | wahanui: thanks wahanui is <reply>You're very welcome, $who |
| 04:49 | wahanui | sure thing eythian |
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| 05:35 | stuartyeates | rangi: know anyone who might be interested in http://vacancies.vuw.ac.nz/pos[…]detail.asp?p=6057 ? |
| 06:22 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 06:22 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 06:28 | eythian | hrm, the data normalisation on the tags tables seems quite unusual to my eye. |
| 06:30 | cait | heya eythian - you are back :) |
| 06:30 | eythian | yep |
| 06:30 | hello | |
| 06:43 | so when you hover over a tag in the tag cloud, it pops up a number. This number isn't the number of items (which is what I expected), it's the weight given to that tag, which is a function of the number of items. That's pretty odd. | |
| 06:44 | cait | eythian: I haven't played aroudn with it really |
| 06:44 | owen did work on something tag related | |
| 06:44 | to highlight your own tags in the tag cloud | |
| 06:45 | eythian | I had someone ask me why the numbers didn't match up, she expected the hover number to be the number of items tagged with that tag. |
| 06:59 | damn, I was hoping it'd be an easy fix to provide the number of items, but it's surprisingly not. | |
| 07:00 | cait | the tags tables are a bit weird |
| 07:00 | eythian | they are. It looks like they're structured that way for speed, but I would suspect some well thought out indices would allow the same speed but with a better structure. |
| 07:01 | * cait | nods |
| 07:01 | eythian | also the "tags" table is empty |
| 07:01 | cait | I had the same thought |
| 07:01 | only explanation is speed, because else it's really weird | |
| 07:01 | eythian | which is silly, unless its for something else. |
| 07:02 | cait | hm |
| 07:04 | we have approved and rejected | |
| 07:04 | and all tags or something right? | |
| 07:05 | eythian | tags_all, tags_approval, and tags_index are all used |
| 07:06 | there's a tag_id which should be used but isn't, instead the term seems to be used as an ID. | |
| 07:06 | which is generally considered bad form | |
| 07:06 | cait | ew |
| 07:07 | pastebot | "eythian" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "Weirdo tags tables" (79 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/291 |
| 07:07 | eythian | that's what they look like with some test data in there. |
| 07:07 | cait | interesting tags :) |
| 07:08 | eythian | yeah, it's a not-yet-live client who has just been messing about to see how they work |
| 07:08 | cait | yeah, they are weird |
| 07:08 | why does tags_index have the bilbionumber and the weigt? | |
| 07:08 | eythian | it's a reduction of tags_all |
| 07:09 | if more than one person tags something the same, it increases the weight | |
| 07:09 | cait | aha |
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| 07:09 | alex_a | bonjour |
| 07:09 | eythian | I think the approval table and the _all table are canonical, and _index and tags_approval.weight_total are derived from that. |
| 07:10 | I'm not sure why they're not linking up on tag_id | |
| 07:10 | * eythian | goes home |
| 07:10 | eythian | see you |
| 07:10 | hi alex_a, bye alex_a. | |
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| 07:31 | magnus_afk | kia ora #koha |
| 07:31 | cait | morning magnus :) |
| 07:32 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:33 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (8:20 AM CET on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -9.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:33 | magnuse | @wunder marseille |
| 07:33 | huginn | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 7.0°C (8:00 AM CET on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:33 | cait | :) |
| 07:33 | soon! | |
| 07:33 | magnuse | 2 weeks! |
| 07:33 | wahanui | hmmm... 2 weeks is good |
| 07:33 | magnuse | you lucky people |
| 07:35 | cait | you will give an amazing presentation instead :) |
| 07:36 | magnuse | nah, don't count on that |
| 07:36 | cait | oh, I don't have to count on it.. I know it. |
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| 07:39 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:39 | wahanui | hey, reiveune |
| 07:40 | rangi | hi europe |
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| 07:48 | cait | hi nz |
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| 07:49 | marcelr | hello koha |
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| 08:06 | gaetan_B | good morning #koha! |
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| 08:12 | rangi | wow, that guy is persistent, help me with this fork, help me |
| 08:12 | i know i downloaded the wrong version, but help me anyway | |
| 08:13 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
| 08:13 | hdl1 | hi |
| 08:13 | marcelr | hi] |
| 08:13 | s/]// | |
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| 08:18 | rangi | marcelr: i wonder for bug 7310 |
| 08:18 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 08:18 | magnuse | rangi++ for being patient and polite |
| 08:18 | rangi | you might want to publish a branch |
| 08:18 | and just keep that up to date, and get ppl to do pull of it? | |
| 08:18 | might be easier for you to keep up to date? | |
| 08:19 | paul_p | hello world |
| 08:19 | magnuse | chris_n++ for 3.6.4 |
| 08:20 | rangi | hi paul_p |
| 08:21 | marcelr | hi paul_p; bug 7310 welcomes your revisiting it |
| 08:21 | :-) | |
| 08:21 | paul_p | marcelr yes, i've seen |
| 08:22 | will try to work on it today, but I already have many patches to push | |
| 08:22 | marcelr | ;) |
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| 08:36 | Amit_Gupta | heya paul_p, magnuse |
| 08:36 | magnuse | namaste Amit_Gupta |
| 08:37 | * rangi | is running out of patience, that will be my last email, someone else can take over |
| 08:37 | marcelr | oops |
| 08:37 | paul_p | rangi ??? |
| 08:37 | wahanui | I LIKE ALMONDS! HAVE SOME NUTS! |
| 08:37 | magnuse | gah |
| 08:38 | rangi++ | |
| 08:38 | marcelr | rangi++ |
| 08:39 | paul_p | ok, I think I get it = archer thread |
| 08:39 | rangi | ahh mailing list paul, you'll see it :) |
| 08:39 | yep | |
| 08:39 | marcelr | he wants to deploy community version now ;) |
| 08:40 | rangi | getting there :) |
| 08:40 | just fighting the fud that it has no support | |
| 08:40 | magnuse | marcelr: not "community version", just Koha ;-) |
| 08:40 | rangi | and that :) |
| 08:40 | marcelr | sorry.. |
| 08:40 | :-) | |
| 08:41 | clrh | hello |
| 08:41 | marcelr | hi |
| 08:41 | magnuse | bonjour clrh |
| 08:41 | marcelr: i find myself thinking that way every so often too, but i try not to ;-) | |
| 08:42 | marcelr | good |
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| 09:40 | kf | hi #koha |
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| 09:41 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 09:42 | halfie | hi, I have deleted some fields shown while "adding MARC records". Now fewer fields are shown but they are still distributed among multiple tabs (0, 1, 2 etc). Is there a way to get a single screen showing all the required fields instead of those multiple tabs? |
| 09:43 | kf | halfie: be careful - I don't recomment deleting fields from the default framework |
| 09:43 | better hide them if you don't want to use them or create your own frameworks | |
| 09:43 | halfie: and yes, you can go to administration > bilbiographic frameworks > framework you want to change > marc structure > field you want to change > tab | |
| 09:43 | halfie | kf: I have created a new framework from which I have deleted those fields. |
| 09:44 | kf | if you are more familiar with the right values the export options for frameworks are nice |
| 09:44 | you can edit them in libreoffice calc for example | |
| 09:44 | that makes it easier to change in bulk | |
| 09:44 | halfie: ok, that's ok then, but check out the hidden field | |
| 09:44 | you can also jsut hide fields | |
| 09:45 | morning marcelr | |
| 09:45 | halfie | kf: now I have 5-6 fields in my newly created "Book" framework but still they are distributed among multiple tabs. How do I disable this tabbing behaviour on "add new MARC records" page? |
| 09:46 | kf | the tabs are configuration |
| 09:46 | It's not done by the number of fields | |
| 09:46 | but an attribute of the configuration of each field | |
| 09:46 | if you want to change that, you have to go back and change the tab value for the field | |
| 09:46 | by default the 0xx fields show up on 0 tab, the 1xx on 1 etc. to make it easier for the cataloger | |
| 09:47 | halfie | kf: I tried changing the Tag value (not the tab value) for fields but the GUI doesn't save my changes somehow. |
| 09:47 | kf | you have to tell the system for each field on which tab it should show |
| 09:47 | the tab is under advanced otpions | |
| 09:47 | when you look at the subfields | |
| 09:47 | there are 0-9 + 10(items) - don't change items | |
| 09:51 | halfie | kf: understood, I did what you said and it worked :) .. thanks. |
| 09:51 | kf | :) |
| 09:51 | halfie | kf: changing the tag for every sub-field is a PITA though. |
| 09:51 | kf | yes |
| 09:51 | easier to do in sql | |
| 09:51 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 09:51 | kf | or using the export options for frameworks |
| 09:56 | styling the browse feature is quite annoying | |
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| 10:15 | halfie | I have deleted a book but it still appears in search results. Do I have to run the full zebra re-indexing process again? |
| 10:18 | hdl1 | yep |
| 10:26 | kf | halfie: have you set up your cronjobs to reindex regularly? |
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| 11:28 | Amit_Gupta | heya hdl1 |
| 11:31 | hdl1 | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 13:05 | slef | what's the zebra index containing marc data? |
| 13:05 | like kw is keywords IIRC | |
| 13:06 | in other words, what's the bit before the , in bulkmarcimport -match to match MARC tags :) | |
| 13:07 | or in the search box to search a MARC tag | |
| 13:07 | morning #koha btw :) | |
| 13:09 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]earchindexes.html | |
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| 13:12 | slef | answered my own question I think. Asking beggar to test |
| 13:12 | what's a nicer word for someone requesting a donation than "beggar"? :) I'm having a tact fail this Monday morning (yeah, what's new, you say) | |
| 13:16 | jcamins_away | slef: you can't search arbitrary MARC tags at present. |
| 13:17 | slef | jcamins_away: being able to search the indexed ones is good enough for them I think. |
| 13:18 | jcamins_away | slef: "panhandler"? "mendicant"? "supplicant"? |
| 13:22 | kf | hi slef morning jcamins_away |
| 13:24 | * jcamins_away | favors "supplicant." |
| 13:26 | jcamins_away | magnuse: have I mentioned to you that we should markup the OPAC details page to include semantic information about the record? Embedded RDF, perhaps. |
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| 13:29 | kf | hi drojf :) |
| 13:29 | drojf | hi #koha |
| 13:29 | hi kf :) | |
| 13:31 | slef | jcamins_away: be nice. Co-ops donate to charities ;) |
| 13:31 | (or at least this one does... can't speak for NYC housing co-ops ;-) ) | |
| 13:31 | * oleonard | listens for the sounds of jcamins_away's derisive laughter |
| 13:32 | jcamins_away | oleonard: was that suitable? :) |
| 13:35 | magnuse | jcamins_away: don'tt hink you have mentioned it, but definitely interesting! RDFa, i think? |
| 13:36 | jcamins | magnuse: yes, that's what I meant. |
| 13:39 | magnuse | jcamins: i have made some progress on converting records to RDF with https://github.com/digibib/marc2rdf , storing them in this triplestore: http://data.libriotech.no/semantikoha/ and enriching them with this script: https://github.com/MagnusEnger[…]er/arc2-client.pl |
| 13:39 | hope to have a poc of enhancing the opac with the data this week | |
| 13:39 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 13:39 | magnuse++ | |
| 13:39 | magnuse | yay |
| 13:43 | jcamins | magnuse: I think we also should have <link>s specifying alternate representations. |
| 13:43 | This is on my todo list. Along with about a billion other things. | |
| 13:46 | magnuse | hehe, sounds like a good idea, though |
| 13:46 | jcamins: you might want to add signing off bug 7092 to the list ;-) | |
| 13:46 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7092 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Complete-subfield searches TraceCompleteSubfields syspref not working correctly |
| 13:46 | jcamins | Yeah, I just did. |
| 13:47 | magnuse | yay! |
| 13:51 | jcamins | Ooh, you know what today is? Today is the day paul_p gets to push 7284! Lucky paul_p! |
| 13:51 | magnuse | woohoo! |
| 13:51 | jcamins | :D |
| 13:51 | magnuse | bug 7284 |
| 13:51 | wahanui | hmmm... bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 13:51 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 13:51 | paul_p | lol :D |
| 13:52 | jcamins | paul_p: you're so lucky... the second thing you have to push is a fun patch! :D |
| 13:53 | * paul_p | fear that won't be for today, as I've other things I *must* do today, sorry jcamins |
| 13:53 | jcamins | paul_p: in that case you can do fun things tomorrow! :D |
| 13:53 | magnuse | lucky paul_p! :-) |
| 13:57 | * paul_p | afk for a meeting |
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| 14:09 | kf | jcamins++ |
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| 14:09 | kf | wb drojf |
| 14:09 | jcamins | kf: what did I do? |
| 14:09 | drojf | damn university wifi :/ |
| 14:10 | kf | how is the migration? |
| 14:12 | drojf: talking to you :) | |
| 14:12 | drojf | downloading a file with 20k, impressive :D |
| 14:12 | slow | |
| 14:12 | want to have a test import before next monday | |
| 14:12 | so the ladies can check while i get some holiday | |
| 14:12 | kf | :) |
| 14:13 | drojf | i guess we will not care for authorities now, i want to have something running in april |
| 14:13 | kf | real holiday? or only working on something else? |
| 14:14 | drojf | well. holiday from my two jobs, working on things for university so i can finally write my thesis |
| 14:14 | not real holidays i'm afraid | |
| 14:14 | kf | yes, doesn't sound like one |
| 14:15 | drojf | can i search for several things in one search sting in koha? like "give me all results with x in this field or y in some other field"? |
| 14:15 | *search string | |
| 14:16 | magnuse | drojf: you can choose "or" between fields in advanced search |
| 14:19 | drojf | thanks magnuse you're right of course. some things are just too obvious |
| 14:19 | magnuse | hehe |
| 14:22 | * kf | hands out cookiews |
| 14:22 | kf | cookies even |
| 14:22 | it's monday | |
| 14:22 | magnuse | yay, monday cookies! |
| 14:22 | marcelr | great |
| 14:23 | drojf | woohoo cookies |
| 14:23 | kf | lol |
| 14:28 | * marcelr | leaves the room quietly, waving |
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| 15:01 | wizzyrea | 7001 too :) |
| 15:03 | hdl1 | bug 7001 |
| 15:03 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , User Configurable Slips |
| 15:08 | kf | hi wizzyrea |
| 15:08 | * kf | saves some cookies for you |
| 15:09 | * wizzyrea | has girlscout cookies |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | thin mints! |
| 15:09 | * wizzyrea | wonders if it's legal to ship them to germany |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | also, germany is awesome |
| 15:09 | http://www.ikea.com/us/en/cata[…]roducts/40134347/ | |
| 15:09 | er no | |
| 15:09 | lol | |
| 15:09 | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]k/~3/jHXCUJg1YQk/ | |
| 15:09 | that | |
| 15:09 | nice table tho. | |
| 15:10 | kf | ikea :) |
| 15:13 | wizzyrea? | |
| 15:13 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE! or KOREAN |
| 15:14 | wizzyrea | ok, that's probably confusing for people |
| 15:14 | forget wizzyrea | |
| 15:14 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot wizzyrea |
| 15:19 | kf | wizzyrea? |
| 15:19 | ! | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea is <reply> I LIKE SCIENCE | |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea? | |
| 15:19 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE |
| 15:19 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:20 | kf | better :) |
| 15:29 | oleonard | chris_n around? |
| 15:37 | * oleonard | has filed Bug 7643 |
| 15:37 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7643 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Can't upload and import zipped file of patron images |
| 15:38 | kf | oleonard++ |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | sorry I meant to do that on friday >.< |
| 15:41 | but thanks oleonard | |
| 15:42 | * wizzyrea | hunts around for signoffs to atone. |
| 15:42 | oleonard | ...because you could see into the future when someone would post that to the list? |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | he came here first asking about it I think |
| 15:43 | kf | yes, there was swomeone asking abou tit |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | either way I was looking at that on friday |
| 15:43 | oleonard | But anyway, signoffs? Bug 7629, Bug 7633. Nice 'n' easy. |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file. |
| 15:43 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7633 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move display of patron image in self checkout | |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | check. :) |
| 15:44 | also | |
| 15:44 | test plan? | |
| 15:44 | wahanui | make me a test plan or I no test! |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | kekekekeke |
| 15:44 | j/k | |
| 15:44 | I can test those wihtout a test plan | |
| 15:44 | oleonard | Both have instructions for testing :P |
| 15:45 | wizzyrea | really that wasn't directed at you :) |
| 15:45 | but I wanted the response for test plan to be something a bit more... urgen than "test plans are nice" | |
| 15:45 | urgent* | |
| 15:46 | * kf | is closing oooooold acq tickets from our libraries |
| 15:46 | loves 3.6.3 :) | |
| 15:46 | wizzyrea | because the problems are all fixed? |
| 15:46 | kf | yep |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | WIN :) |
| 15:47 | kf | yep |
| 15:48 | are you aware of any problems with attaching items to other records? | |
| 15:48 | wizzyrea | ! no? |
| 15:48 | kf | I don't think there is a known problem right? |
| 15:48 | we had one case... where the xml was not updated properly | |
| 15:48 | and the item appeared in both records... | |
| 15:48 | after reindexing | |
| 15:48 | I will just assume that's also fixed | |
| 15:49 | wizzyrea | hmm no I hadn't heard about that |
| 15:49 | that sounds... flukey | |
| 15:49 | kf | yes, had problems reproducing it |
| 15:49 | but had exmaples where it happened | |
| 15:50 | wizzyrea | busy library? |
| 15:51 | kf | hm not really |
| 15:51 | * wizzyrea | suspects a locked table or something where an update didn't happen when it was suppseed to |
| 15:51 | jcamins | UTF-8 in the call number? |
| 15:52 | kf | jcamins: possible |
| 15:52 | wahanui | possible is, like, everything, but I think it's probably easy to miss something here |
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| 15:52 | * wizzyrea | waves at sekjal |
| 15:52 | wizzyrea | hi :) |
| 15:52 | sekjal | hi, wizzyrea |
| 15:54 | kf | hi sekjal :) |
| 15:54 | sekjal | hi, kf! |
| 15:58 | * wizzyrea | goes on a tab closing frenzy |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | ah, that's nice. Down to 5. |
| 16:05 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:08 | * paul_p | head for pushing some bugs... |
| 16:08 | paul_p | bug 3516 first |
| 16:08 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3516 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Display picture of patrons in OPAC |
| 16:09 | paul_p | (from oldest to newest QA) |
| 16:10 | wizzyrea | \o/ |
| 16:11 | jcamins | paul_p: woohoo! Maybe you do get to have fun today! :D |
| 16:11 | paul_p | your bug is 2nd on my list ;-) |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | I wish git commit --amend -s would also add [Signed Off] to the first line of the commit. |
| 16:11 | jcamins | paul_p: I know. :) |
| 16:11 | * wizzyrea | is so lazy. |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | also, http://spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy |
| 16:13 | because, i couldn't resist that title. | |
| 16:13 | it may be crap. | |
| 16:13 | * paul_p | bet that, with a git config one achieve that. Or maybe a hook |
| 16:14 | * wizzyrea | is looking now, because that extra 5 seconds of typing stuff that i'm likely to forget is cramping my stlye. |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | style* even. |
| 16:14 | hdl1 | paul_p: wizzyrea investigate git-alias |
| 16:15 | wizzyrea | oh holy snaps. |
| 16:15 | hdl++ | |
| 16:15 | good one. :) | |
| 16:15 | paul_p | wizzyrea share if you are successfull ;-) |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | boo except that kernel.org is still down where they keep all of the examples. |
| 16:16 | hrmph. | |
| 16:17 | maximep | lazy++. I have bash aliases to only do "gci" to do a "git commit" |
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| 16:19 | * oleonard | uses "ckm" for "git checkout master" |
| 16:19 | * jcamins | has been typing everything out. |
| 16:20 | wizzyrea | http://cheat.errtheblog.com/s/git |
| 16:20 | jcamins | Maybe I should write a "qa nnnn" script. |
| 16:21 | wizzyrea | also looks like you can do longish things with aliases as well: http://gitready.com/intermedia[…]mand-aliases.html |
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| 16:21 | wizzyrea | ooooo |
| 16:21 | http://robots.thoughtbot.com/p[…]flow-with-aliases | |
| 16:21 | this looks promising. | |
| 16:22 | specifically | |
| 16:22 | up = !git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master | |
| 16:22 | or cob = checkout -b used like git cob qa-xxxx | |
| 16:24 | mveron | Hi everybody #koha |
| 16:24 | paul_p | and now, ladies and gentlemen... pushing 7284 ... (or not, just to see jcamin angry ;-) ) |
| 16:24 | jcamins | I like the idea of `git qa 1234`=git fetch kc && git checkout -b bug_1234_qa kc/master && git-bz apply 1234 |
| 16:24 | * wizzyrea | throws confetti |
| 16:24 | * jcamins | is sure this is the high point of paul_p's day. :) |
| 16:25 | jcamins | Certainly the high point of mine. :) |
| 16:25 | bag | good morning |
| 16:25 | sekjal | morning, bag |
| 16:26 | bag | hey ian |
| 16:28 | kf | morning bag |
| 16:29 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 16:29 | wahanui | i think morning is a state of mind. |
| 16:29 | jcamins | wahanui: Monday? |
| 16:29 | wahanui | i think Monday is better |
| 16:29 | oleonard | Better than what? A kick in the teeth? |
| 16:30 | jcamins | Well, isn't it? |
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| 16:39 | Shane-S | For a patron there is the "library management" section w/ Sort 1 and Sort 2 fields, are the just for the library to use in say reports, or do they have a more specific purpose? |
| 16:40 | oleonard | For any arbitrary purpose |
| 16:41 | Shane-S | awesome, needed to add grade level and teacher for a fines report...now I can play :) |
| 16:41 | Every day I think I am nearing 100% to using Koha and I learn "one more thing" the library needs to have in place :P | |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 16:42 | @quote get 123 | |
| 16:42 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | just wait until they start inventing things they need it to do |
| 16:42 | that's when it gets really fun. | |
| 16:42 | "oh hey, we have some control here, can you make it vomit ponies?" | |
| 16:42 | "because that's really what I want" | |
| 16:43 | Shane-S | Yes...it can vomit out all the books with the word ponies....then hand them a PERL book :) |
| 16:44 | wizzyrea | ^^ this |
| 16:44 | paul_p | jcamins could you give me some details about "* Correctly destroy ZOOM recordsets in SearchAuthorities when finished. If left |
| 16:44 | undestroyed, efficiency appears to approach O(log n^n)" ? | |
| 16:45 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, exactly what it sounds like. The ZOOM library has a destroy() function that the authority search wasn't calling. |
| 16:45 | Therefore, we were leaking memory like mad. | |
| 16:46 | paul_p | don't we have the same problem with bib search ? |
| 16:46 | jcamins | paul_p: uhhh... |
| 16:46 | kf | hm |
| 16:46 | jcamins | I think I checked and found that we were destroying the query. |
| 16:46 | kf | I have suggestion on but no suggestions form shows up in my opac? :( |
| 16:46 | oh found it | |
| 16:46 | jcamins | (the way we should be) |
| 16:46 | * paul_p | think he remembers hdl speaking of something like that (leaking memory when linking authorities & biblio automatically). |
| 16:46 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, that was due to this bug. |
| 16:47 | paul_p | jcamins doesn't the destroy result in a big lowering of performances ?( |
| 16:47 | because opening a connection is costly) | |
| 16:47 | jcamins | paul_p: no, we're not destroying the connection. |
| 16:47 | paul_p: ZOOM has a really weird API. | |
| 16:47 | You have to destroy *each* resultset. | |
| 16:47 | paul_p | jcamins really ? no... you must be kidding... zebra/zoom are so handy to deal with |
| 16:48 | jcamins | Even though they are invalid as soon as you leave scope. |
| 16:48 | paul_p | (yes, *I* am kidding ;-) ) |
| 16:48 | jcamins | paul_p: ;) |
| 16:48 | Shane-S | okay...I'm confused...searched for a Patron and the results of more then one showed, in the category it showed Student (C) when I go to view then it has Student (KID) .... (KID) I expect, it is my code, where does the (C) come from? Perhaps I bug I need to report? |
| 16:49 | kf | C is probably the category type |
| 16:49 | which means Child | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | paul_p: it used to be a run of the linker took three days for 110k records. |
| 16:50 | paul_p | (you know, we're having our annual meeting one-to-one with all BibLibre staff. 2 things are shared by all = "i'm happy to work at BibLibre, it's a cool company" and "well, i need more info on zebra, because it's un-understandable" ) |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Now it takes six hours, thanks to the addition of the destroy(). |
| 16:50 | Heh. | |
| 16:50 | paul_p | wow ! impressive ! |
| 16:51 | Shane-S | kf: Ah okay, was odd seeing it different between screens |
| 16:51 | jcamins | paul_p: yeah, I was pretty impressed! |
| 16:51 | paul_p | (I think the 1st point is sincere, i'm sure the 2nd point is ;-) ) |
| 16:51 | oleonard | Something I'm working on: http://screencast.com/t/Rh7hOc21Z9 |
| 17:00 | gaetan_B | bye! |
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| 17:05 | kf | time to leave - bye all! |
| 17:06 | oleonard: pretty cool :) | |
| 17:07 | maximep | anyone using misc/cronjobs/build_browser_and_cloud.pl with marc21 ? I have no idea what to pass to -t and -f |
| 17:11 | jcamins | maximep: I have no idea, sorry. |
| 17:11 | maximep | docs says 676a in UNIMARC for dewey for example |
| 17:11 | let's see if that does anything | |
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| 17:19 | * paul_p | wife call me. family time now. See you tomorrow #koha ! |
| 17:19 | wizzyrea | bye paul_p |
| 17:19 | oleonard: very cool on the tags. | |
| 17:20 | sekjal | jcamins: qa = !sh -c 'git checkout master && git pull && git checkout -b bug$1-qa && git bz apply $1' - |
| 17:20 | jcamins | sekjal: nice! |
| 17:21 | sekjal | can be adapted as needed to change how the checkouts work, or the branch is named |
| 17:21 | maximep | oh, looks like it's 082 in marc21 Not sure about the subfield :/ |
| 17:22 | wizzyrea | oh sekjal <3 |
| 17:22 | that is awesome | |
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| 17:22 | sekjal | could probably do an 'so' alias for signoffs, too |
| 17:23 | jcamins | Yeah... more keypresses saved! |
| 17:23 | sekjal | by abstracting the process, the usage becomes more consistent |
| 17:24 | wizzyrea | something like |
| 17:24 | so = !sh -c 'git commit --amend -s && git bz attach -e $1 HEAD' - | |
| 17:25 | sekjal | you may not need to the !sh -c wrapper |
| 17:25 | I had to use that to use the $1 variable twice | |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | if you want the $1 I think you do |
| 17:25 | ? | |
| 17:25 | oh, twice. | |
| 17:25 | sekjal | or I could be mistaken |
| 17:25 | wizzyrea | well, it's in the 2nd command... hm idk. |
| 17:26 | sekjal | I makea lot of twists and turns trying to nail that one-liner down |
| 17:26 | * wizzyrea | just took what you did |
| 17:27 | cackles maniacally | |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | hdl++ |
| 17:28 | great idea. | |
| 17:28 | sekjal | could even add the git send-email phase, too |
| 17:28 | since we don't yet have the auto-emailer in place that mtj was working on | |
| 17:28 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 17:29 | sekjal | aliases++ |
| 17:29 | * wizzyrea | wants to do one on the bz test bug |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | for signoff. |
| 17:29 | omg it's brilliant. | |
| 17:30 | o.m.g. | |
| 17:30 | Shane-S | <-- is thinking of creating a "print" button the reports page that takes off the SQL statement...by using JS to dynamically add some CSS...hmmm |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | i just did a git so 6473, it amended my commit, let me obsolete the old patches and sent it |
| 17:31 | thatis*&$$@)$%amazing | |
| 17:31 | sekjal | wizzyrea++ |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | life is too short to have non-working pens on your desk. |
| 17:32 | i also added | |
| 17:32 | up = !git fetch origin && git rebase origin/master | |
| 17:32 | so I say "git up" | |
| 17:32 | and it does it | |
| 17:32 | yee haw, so to speak. | |
| 17:32 | jcamins | lol |
| 17:33 | * sekjal | still wants git -r done to be an official command |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | LOLOL |
| 17:33 | magnus_afk | who's putting this on the wiki? |
| 17:33 | sekjal | I am |
| 17:33 | * wizzyrea | bets you can do it with aliases. |
| 17:33 | magnus_afk | sekjal: yay :-) |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | :D sekjal++ |
| 17:34 | this is what I was looking at mostly: http://robots.thoughtbot.com/p[…]flow-with-aliases | |
| 17:34 | hey, sekjal, they have one for interactive rebase | |
| 17:34 | which is git ir | |
| 17:34 | close to git r | |
| 17:34 | sekjal | nice |
| 17:34 | wizzyrea | oh and a done |
| 17:34 | lol | |
| 17:35 | done = !git fetch && git rebase origin/master && git checkout master && git merge @{-1} && rake && git push | |
| 17:35 | (ruby guy, apparently) | |
| 17:35 | (could add prove t in there if you wanted) | |
| 17:35 | (same thing) | |
| 17:35 | oh, I should add tests in there. | |
| 17:35 | at least the template ones. | |
| 17:37 | *nod* that works, sticking a prove t xt in front of git commit --amend | |
| 17:40 | sekjal | so = !sh -c 'prove t xt && git commit --amend -s && git bz attach -e $1 HEAD' - |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | yep, exactly |
| 17:41 | now, how to get it to prepend the first line with [Signed Off] | |
| 17:41 | which was the original reason for this alias adventure. | |
| 17:42 | Shane-S | is there a URL value I can pass to NOT show SQL statements in the guided_reports.pl w/ phase = Run this Report, I tried &showsql=0 |
| 17:42 | wizzyrea | not that I'm aware of |
| 17:43 | * wizzyrea | learns something about git commit -- the -n flag for "no-verify" or "skip hooks" |
| 17:43 | wizzyrea | that makes hooks a lot less annoying. |
| 17:44 | that will make hooks a lot less annoying. Grammar. geez. | |
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| 17:46 | jcamins | Shane-S: no, you'll have to use javascript or CSS. |
| 17:46 | sekjal | prepending [SIGNED-OFF] to the first line of the commit message was a convention we used larger for the patches list, as I recall |
| 17:47 | Shane-S | yeah...problem is there is no "print media" CSS section through Admin area |
| 17:47 | wizzyrea | so make one :P |
| 17:47 | sekjal | we may need to reevaluate it in a git-bz based workflow |
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| 17:47 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: you know that you can just download the results as CSV or TAB right? |
| 17:47 | most people just do that if they want to print them | |
| 17:48 | the first question | |
| 17:48 | wahanui | it has been said that the first question is "What are you trying to do?" |
| 17:48 | Shane-S | For me...no problem...for a person who can't login to email....would like to keep it at "Print" |
| 18:03 | sekjal | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ify_command_tasks |
| 18:06 | Shane-S | where are template files? using locate .tmpl didn't return anything |
| 18:06 | sekjal | Shane-S: they're .tt now, and located in koha-tmpl |
| 18:06 | Shane-S | ah okay thanks |
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| 18:11 | maximep | oh, that git prompt is cooler than mine |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Maybe I should try that out, see if it is helpful. |
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| 18:29 | maximep | @wunder yqb |
| 18:29 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in lac st-charles, quebec city, Quebec is -7.2°C (1:29 PM EST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.02 in 1016.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:30 | maximep | @wunder cyqb |
| 18:30 | huginn | maximep: The current temperature in Quebec, Quebec is -10.0°C (1:00 PM EST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -20.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:30 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 18:30 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 19.4°C (10:30 AM PST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Steady). |
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| 18:45 | Shane-S | okay okay...sometime I have to learn git....but bug 7646 (I submitted my code change) |
| 18:45 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7646 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Printing w/o the SQL Code showing |
| 18:46 | Shane-S | It looks pretty on my print preview :) |
| 18:48 | maximep | maybe just a diff between the original and your modification would be a start |
| 18:48 | Shane-S | I feel kinda happy I have hopefully helped add a little to the project, tiny things I wanted...but hopefully others like and can use it :D |
| 18:50 | maximep | the template could change before someone can take a look at your patch, so attaching a diff would be good |
| 18:51 | Shane-S | how would I do that? |
| 18:51 | jcamins | Shane-S: git is easy. |
| 18:51 | version control using git? | |
| 18:51 | wahanui | well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 18:52 | jcamins | ^^ see that document for an introduction. :) |
| 18:52 | maximep | or just a diff file1 file2 > diff.patch |
| 18:52 | but a git patch would be btter | |
| 18:52 | jcamins | maximep: right, I wasn't answering that question. |
| 18:53 | git patch would be much better, because if you just supply a diff, you're gambling that someone else will be interested enough to reformat it into a git patch. | |
| 18:53 | Shane-S | I can track my bugs right? |
| 18:53 | jcamins | And if the template changes, git will help resolve the conflicts, whereas diff/patch will not (as I understand it). |
| 18:54 | Shane-S | If so when I get around to setting up my home system I will use git |
| 18:54 | jcamins | You'll now get an e-mail every time someone modifies that report. |
| 18:57 | Shane-S | well it is trackable, so I am good I documented my change well enough for me to make it again if the template does change |
| 18:57 | So hopefully when I get git on my VM at home I can apply a git change | |
| 19:03 | how involved would it be to add an input field to a saved report box. I know I can do it via SQL, I just need a variable passed through. I would add it to the WHERE clause | |
| 19:06 | magnus_afk | Shane-S: have you seen http://manual.koha-community.o[…]tml#reportfromsql ? |
| 19:06 | jcamins | Shane-S: I think that's already done. |
| 19:06 | Where you use double angle brackets. | |
| 19:12 | * oleonard | wonders how the git so alias handles bugs with multiple patches |
| 19:12 | wizzyrea | hm probably doesn't |
| 19:12 | jcamins | oleonard: not so well. |
| 19:13 | If it were really clever, it would do a git status to get the number of patches, and then loop through them. | |
| 19:14 | wizzyrea | or squash them |
| 19:14 | as part of it | |
| 19:14 | that would probably be something like "git squash" | |
| 19:15 | * jcamins | prefers preserving multiple patches. |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Use git ri if you are sure you want them squashed. |
| 19:15 | * wizzyrea | doesn't care so much as long as I've authored them all |
| 19:15 | wizzyrea | or I have permission from the followupper. |
| 19:15 | * jcamins | either, but often you'll be testing a patch by one person, and a follow-up by someone else. |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Remember, I am *very* lazy. |
| 19:16 | wizzyrea | lol - laziness to rival my own no doubt. |
| 19:17 | sekjal | patches that can be tested separately should be kept separate. If multiple patches depend on each other to work, then I can squashing them |
| 19:17 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
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| 19:17 | wizzyrea | I hate it when you can't test a patch without another one applied first. |
| 19:18 | but I deal :P | |
| 19:18 | sekjal | I've thought about labeling my multiple patches on a bug with [Step 1], [Step 2], etc |
| 19:18 | and perhaps parallel patches could be [Step 1a], [Step 1b], etc | |
| 19:19 | though if I'm going to get that fine-grained, I suppose I should just file separate reports | |
| 19:20 | wizzyrea | yea, idk how best to handle that |
| 19:20 | sort of thing. | |
| 19:21 | sekjal | I'm a big fan of small, easy to test patches |
| 19:21 | not always possible, but nice when it is | |
| 19:22 | jcamins | I went with monolothic for bug 7284 because people were starting to get annoyed at the number of patches. |
| 19:22 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:22 | jcamins | Also, I kept on rewriting history. |
| 19:23 | Easier to say "okay, create a new branch and apply this one patch" than "okay, create a new branch and apply thirty patches." | |
| 19:23 | wizzyrea | yea, that's a huge feature. We did the same with 7001 |
| 19:23 | went for monolith. | |
| 19:23 | or srdjan did | |
| 19:24 | (bless his patient heart. I keep saying it because it's true) | |
| 19:26 | Shane-S | magnus_afk / jcamins : Says it is limited to branches, itemtypes, and categorycode, I need borrowers sort1 sort2 |
| 19:26 | sekjal | ah, that reminds me, bag was asking me to look at bug 7641 on Frida |
| 19:26 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Signed Off , Add ability to suspend reserves. |
| 19:27 | Shane-S | nm that is for drop downs |
| 19:29 | sweet that is awesome! | |
| 19:30 | Thanks guys...FYI Koha is massive, you should have Koha Certification classes to pay yourselves and make the project $$ :P | |
| 19:30 | Just start that after I learn more first ;) | |
| 19:32 | wizzyrea | Koha *is* massive. |
| 19:34 | cait | every ILS is I think |
| 19:34 | magnus_afk | @get quote 123 |
| 19:34 | huginn | magnus_afk: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 19:34 | wahanui | i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 19:35 | jcamins | @quote get 123 |
| 19:35 | huginn | jcamins: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 19:35 | magnus_afk | thanks jcamins |
| 19:35 | @dunno | |
| 19:35 | jcamins | magnus_afk: I thought Shane-S might not have been able to translate that into a quote. ;) |
| 19:35 | huginn | magnus_afk: I suck |
| 19:39 | * magnus_afk | wanders off |
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| 19:49 | Shane-S | Would the 3.2 Manual apply to 3.6, I need the PDF to print out for my Librarian so we can earmark and notate things we need, have done, or will do. |
| 19:51 | oleonard | It will apply where they are the same. It won't apply where they are different. |
| 19:51 | wizzyrea | I thought they were generating pdf's for that |
| 19:52 | Shane-S | apparently I lost wifi...I missed the response |
| 19:52 | oleonard | Shane-S: It will apply where they are the same. It won't apply where they are different. |
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| 19:52 | wizzyrea | and "I thought they were generating pdf's for that" |
| 19:52 | ping rangi - is jenkins still generating the pdf's for the manual? | |
| 19:52 | or did we stop doing that? | |
| 19:53 | Shane-S: it's not tooooo difficult to make your own pdf if you use linux | |
| 19:53 | i might even be nice and make one for you if you ask nicely ;) | |
| 19:54 | gmasters | I just installed koha 3.06.04 and want to migrate my OPAC from OpenBiblio 0.6.1. The CSV report doesn't give full MARC records just my in-house accession numbers, call numbers, titles and collection names. Is there are a well-documented procedure that will help me complete the migration |
| 19:54 | wizzyrea | oh wow. |
| 19:55 | we had a library go from openbiblio -> koha, but we didn't do the migration ourselves. | |
| 19:55 | marcedit, you will need it :/ | |
| 19:56 | bag | @wunder 93109 |
| 19:56 | huginn | bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.6°C (11:55 AM PST on March 05, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 42%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 19:56 | gmasters | I do have that. Am I going to have to use my CSV listing from OpenBiblio and re-pull all my records (I have over 550 volumes in this rapidly growing library!) |
| 19:56 | bag | yeah it's been hot here lately |
| 19:57 | jcamins | gmasters: just be glad it's five hundred fifty and not fifty-five hundred or fifty-five thousand. ;) |
| 19:58 | gmasters | Good point. I'll use the CSV and repull. I'll also try to document the procedure I used so that others will have it. OpenBiblio is very inactive. It was fine when I took over the library, but we have been growing exponentially and want to start a consortium of member libraries. |
| 19:59 | wizzyrea | *nod* openbiblio was the first open source ILS we tried here at NEKLS too (for one small, poor library) |
| 20:00 | Koha will be a *much* better fit for you | |
| 20:00 | in all truth, koha and openbiblio were about equivalent in terms of function at the time. Not anymore though. | |
| 20:00 | it was years and years ago | |
| 20:00 | gmasters | Our local public library cataloger also recommended it to me highly. |
| 20:01 | oleonard | When was that wizzyrea? |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | let's see, way pre-3.0 |
| 20:01 | i remember I looked at koha and it was a lot more confusing than openbiblio | |
| 20:01 | OB was a lot easier to use then Koha pre-3.0 | |
| 20:01 | * Shane-S | had the same experience in 2008/2009 |
| 20:01 | wizzyrea | s/than/then/ |
| 20:01 | gmasters | A few months ago. My wife works for the Sunnyvale Public Library and their cataloger is into OSS even though they use Millenium |
| 20:02 | jcamins | gmasters: I am a cataloger, but I get a lot of grief about catalogers not liking Koha. |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | 2005-2006? |
| 20:02 | wahanui | -1 |
| 20:02 | wizzyrea | thanks wahanui :P |
| 20:02 | oleonard | Heh. |
| 20:03 | * wizzyrea | didn't know he did arithmetic |
| 20:04 | gmasters | thanks all |
| 20:04 | wizzyrea | sure, pop back anytime |
| 20:04 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: So how would one go about making a PDF w/ Linux? |
| 20:05 | OMG...nearly 400 pages...Add duplexing...200 sheets of paper...hmm...not sure I can bind that :P | |
| 20:05 | wizzyrea | https://github.com/wizzyrea/Sc[…]er/PDF-convert.sh |
| 20:05 | you need | |
| 20:05 | docbook2html | |
| 20:06 | and xhtml2pdf | |
| 20:06 | Shane-S | I might just print the key pages we need instead :D |
| 20:06 | wizzyrea | but that's the basic gist. |
| 20:06 | Shane-S | ah okay thanks wizzyrea |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | that script converts it to html, adds the stuff to each page for pagenumber, tidies, then converts it into pdf |
| 20:07 | jcamins | You can also just print to PDF if you're lazy like me. |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea | or that |
| 20:07 | from what, jcamins? | |
| 20:07 | your docbook viewer? | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | wizzyrea: the website. |
| 20:08 | wahanui | rumour has it the website is http://www.koha-community.org |
| 20:08 | wizzyrea | oh you mean page by page? |
| 20:08 | or section by section I guess. | |
| 20:08 | Shane-S | yeah how do you view it in whole? |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | it's a git repo, you can just download the source ;) |
| 20:09 | it's in docbook format | |
| 20:09 | jcamins | There's also a page with the entire manual. |
| 20:09 | Shane-S | I meant online :P |
| 20:09 | jcamins | No link to it, though... |
| 20:09 | wizzyrea | ! lol, uh, there is? |
| 20:09 | where? | |
| 20:09 | well shit, dawg. | |
| 20:09 | * wizzyrea | will put a link to it if you provide it :P |
| 20:10 | scolds jcamins for holding out | |
| 20:10 | taps her toe impatiently | |
| 20:10 | Shane-S | so uh...http://koha-community.org/koha-3-6-1/ seems <pre> should be replaced with something that will wrap :P |
| 20:10 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I'm trying to remember. |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | oh, in that case take your time >.> |
| 20:10 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I used to have shell access. :P |
| 20:10 | wizzyrea | mhm |
| 20:10 | we could just convert it | |
| 20:11 | rangi | wizzyrea: naw, jenkins isnt doing it anymore |
| 20:11 | wizzyrea | k ty, I coudln't remember |
| 20:12 | oh hell I'm in. | |
| 20:13 | ! | |
| 20:13 | sorry to be sweary today | |
| 20:14 | maximep | anyone remember having problems with the syspref QueryAutoTruncate not working correctly ? |
| 20:14 | cait | hm yes |
| 20:14 | maximep | set to only if * is added and it shows the same results with or without * |
| 20:14 | cait | with icu I think |
| 20:15 | maximep | -_- |
| 20:15 | how do I find out if i'm using icu | |
| 20:15 | ah | |
| 20:15 | zebraisx -V = using ICU | |
| 20:15 | wizzyrea | try |
| 20:15 | http://manual.koha-community.o[…]3.6/en/manual.pdf | |
| 20:15 | maximep | -_- |
| 20:18 | cait | maximep: if you have not actiaved it manually, you are not using it |
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| 20:19 | cait | maximep: and I don't rmember the problem clearly :( could be in twas in combination with one of the other search prefs |
| 20:19 | Shane-S | wizzyrea: thanks, but did jcamins ever jog his memory? |
| 20:19 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: that's probably the link he was thinking of |
| 20:19 | jcamins | wizzyrea: there's no manual.html? |
| 20:20 | * Shane-S | wonders if wizzyrea toe hurts yet |
| 20:20 | kathryn | good morning! |
| 20:20 | wizzyrea | hi kathryn |
| 20:20 | * Shane-S | notes that .pdf says 3.4 |
| 20:21 | maximep | yeah, probably a difference in some other pref because same zebra and doesn't work on one |
| 20:21 | * cait | waves |
| 20:22 | * kathryn | waves back |
| 20:22 | Shane-S | jcamins: I tried manual.html, full.html, man.html, complete.html (no luck) |
| 20:22 | oleonard | Man, testing template changes in multiple translations is a pain in the butt |
| 20:22 | cait | oleonard: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:23 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: I'll just tell you now, a monolith html doesn't exist on manual.k-c.org |
| 20:23 | there's a pdf, but it looks to be out of date. | |
| 20:23 | (and is a bit ugly anyway) | |
| 20:23 | maximep | I guess you could download all the html pages hehe |
| 20:23 | wget mirror style :p | |
| 20:23 | Shane-S | oh well, thanks for looking, I can't print the whole thing anyway |
| 20:24 | I will just print out what she asks for | |
| 20:24 | wizzyrea | no, your best bet is going to be either convert it from docbook yourself to get a monolith, or wait a bit on me :P |
| 20:25 | Shane-S | oh no....gut check time...apt-get just updated Koha... |
| 20:26 | * Shane-S | wonders if files changed on me |
| 20:28 | Shane-S | wait I think apt-get update just updates the file listings right? |
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| 20:31 | Shane-S | any quick way to check my version? |
| 20:31 | wizzyrea | more -> about koha |
| 20:31 | Shane-S | damn...3.06.02 |
| 20:31 | how do I make it update to 3.06.04? | |
| 20:31 | I used packages | |
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| 20:32 | rangi | there isnt a package for 3.6.4 yet, it was only released yesterday, wait a couple of days |
| 20:33 | there is 3.6.3 tho, you could upgrade to that if you wanted to or just wait for 3.6.4 | |
| 20:33 | Shane-S | I just want to test if it works and/or breaks my print change |
| 20:34 | rangi | it will, if you locall modified files |
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| 20:34 | rangi | then it will |
| 20:34 | Shane-S | yeah I did |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | *nod* don't do code changes on a package install. |
| 20:34 | rangi | wether you upgrade with packages or the tarball |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | do your dev on a git install, submit, qa, then get it back when it makes it in ;) |
| 20:34 | rangi | im pretty sure 50,000 people have said this already, but use git |
| 20:34 | if you want to do dev | |
| 20:34 | wizzyrea | ^^^^^ |
| 20:35 | rangi | then deploy to production with packages |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | trust rangi, we all do. |
| 20:35 | cait | ^^^^^ |
| 20:35 | rangi | i dont |
| 20:35 | cait | :) |
| 20:35 | rangi | that guys a clown |
| 20:35 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 20:35 | a *brilliant* clown. | |
| 20:35 | Shane-S | how does git go to a package...aren't they seperate? |
| 20:35 | rangi | the best way |
| 20:35 | wahanui | the best way is to make the local sendmail server relay via my google mail service |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | forget the best way |
| 20:36 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot best way |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | silly |
| 20:36 | rangi | get your changes into master, then they will come out in the next package |
| 20:36 | the 2nd best way | |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | ^^^^ |
| 20:36 | roll your own package | |
| 20:36 | from git. | |
| 20:36 | rangi | use debian/build-git-snapshot |
| 20:36 | to build your own packages | |
| 20:36 | Shane-S | rangi...let me ask this....say I have my server from packages (easier install), but I use a home system with git to publish my changes, can my server be tied to my packages? |
| 20:37 | * Shane-S | bear in mind I can even make a install.php file for a basic "hello world" script |
| 20:37 | * Space_Librarian | pulls out the popcorn |
| 20:37 | Shane-S | I can't* |
| 20:38 | * wizzyrea | giggles at Space_Librarian |
| 20:38 | Shane-S | I only ask that because I won't be making many changes on the server if it is a production system |
| 20:38 | wizzyrea | ^^ smart |
| 20:38 | * Space_Librarian | shares the popcorn with wizzyrea as they watch rangi be clownish |
| 20:38 | * wizzyrea | nibbles |
| 20:38 | jcamins | Shane-S: don't *ever* make code changes on a production system run off packages. |
| 20:39 | rangi | what jcamins said |
| 20:39 | * wizzyrea | nods |
| 20:39 | oleonard | Since when does the language chooser not reflect the currently-chosen of multiple language variants? (fr-FR, fr-CA) |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | listen to the sages. |
| 20:39 | * Space_Librarian | agrees |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | oleonard: I thought it was me >.< but it hasn't for a while |
| 20:39 | jcamins | Shane-S: there are two important corollaries: don't make code changes on a production system, and don't make code changes on a system run off packages. |
| 20:39 | rangi | you make your changes test them on a staging/test system, build and deploy packages to production |
| 20:39 | maximep | just fyi, QueryAutoTruncate didn't work because QueryWeightFields was turned on |
| 20:39 | looks like a bug to me :S | |
| 20:39 | wizzyrea | i assumed I did something wrong with translations. |
| 20:39 | rangi | oh, good catch maximep |
| 20:40 | jcamins | There's an old bug for that. |
| 20:40 | maximep | of course there is :/ |
| 20:40 | rangi | oleonard: i was complaining about that the other day also |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | (being a dumb english speaker and all) |
| 20:40 | Shane-S | okay...I will come back to this when I learn git... |
| 20:40 | rangi | your life will be a million times easier Shane-S :) |
| 20:40 | wizzyrea | Shane-S: it's really a lot... easier... than you think |
| 20:41 | * Shane-S | walks away head down, hands in pockets, kicking dirt :P |
| 20:41 | jcamins | hdl reported it, I think, but I didn't have time to test to see if it was still an issue. |
| 20:41 | Shane-S: see my e-mail to the list about git resources. | |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | also we're here to help, and we like talking about git because every time we talk about it we learn something new |
| 20:41 | jcamins | Actually, I never sent that e-mail to the list. |
| 20:41 | wizzyrea | (that's not even a lie) |
| 20:41 | * jcamins | doesn't have time to send the e-mail to the list now, so... |
| 20:42 | jcamins | Shane-S: PM me your e-mail address? |
| 20:42 | * Shane-S | has a Pinky & the Brain moment...are you pondering what I am pondering...how this can pay my salary so I can have the time to learn this... |
| 20:42 | wizzyrea | if you do any kind of coding at all in your job |
| 20:42 | it will be great to know git. | |
| 20:43 | not just great. Fabulous. | |
| 20:43 | worth every penny of your salaried time to learn it. | |
| 20:43 | * Shane-S | is paid to know everything, do everything, and then explain....I am just a single human in the IT field |
| 20:44 | * oleonard | dusts off git bisect |
| 20:44 | Shane-S | alright all I have to split, thanks for the help |
| 20:44 | I have to go exchange toners :P | |
| 20:44 | jcamins | Okay, time to run off to the printers'. |
| 20:44 | Heh. | |
| 20:44 | Similar tasks for similar times. | |
| 20:45 | Shane-S | lol jcamins yep |
| 20:45 | jcamins | I'll be back later... much. |
| 20:45 | cait | bye jcamins |
| 20:45 | Shane-S | 49x don't fit our printers, need 49a |
| 20:45 | mveron | I heard you all, my dev / git installation is ready... It finally runs paralel to the package installation, listens to port 81 and 8081 |
| 20:45 | jcamins | lol |
| 20:45 | Woohoo! | |
| 20:45 | mveron++ | |
| 20:45 | rangi | nice work mveron |
| 20:45 | mveron | Thanks! I must say I'm a little bit proud.... |
| 20:45 | cait | mveron++ :) |
| 20:46 | mveron | So I'm keen (ungeduldig) to do my first little step with git. |
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| 20:47 | cait | mveron: branches are your friend |
| 20:47 | :) | |
| 20:49 | mveron | We need Swiss Francs (CHF) as Currency Format, so I branched out, inserted the code in ascquisitions.pref. Works. What would be the next step? |
| 20:49 | rangi | oh |
| 20:49 | what you really want to do | |
| 20:50 | is build a TT plugin, like we have for Dates, for currencies | |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | version control using git |
| 20:50 | wahanui | version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | specifically http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_on_Koha_with_Git |
| 20:51 | rangi | then the templats can just format the number in the appropriate format, without having to muck around in the .pl files |
| 20:51 | if you look in Koha/Template/Plugin/ | |
| 20:52 | you will see a file KohaDates.pm | |
| 20:53 | cait | mveron: why in acq.ref? |
| 20:53 | rangi | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]#Displaying_dates |
| 20:53 | cait | the format therer eis hardly used anywhere |
| 20:53 | rangi | be better the i18n tab? |
| 20:53 | cait | what you want to do as a first step is insert it into administration > currencies, set it to 1 and make it active :) |
| 20:54 | rangi: sorry, just started reading back. there is a currency formatting thing in acq | |
| 20:54 | mveron | cait: Because there are choices like US: 360'000.00 (US) , for Euro as well, so I added CH: 360'000.00 (CHF) as additional choice... |
| 20:54 | cait | but it's hardly used anywhere, only on a few screens I think |
| 20:55 | mveron: i doubt it will be enough | |
| 20:55 | rangi | yeah mveron what im saying is currently we do it badly, and if you want formatted currency in the opac, or somewhere else |
| 20:55 | you have to go touch .pl files | |
| 20:55 | cait | mveron: I think I use FR in our installations, similar enough. but as I said, it's hardly used anywhere for display - that system preference, only a few places in acq |
| 20:55 | rangi | if we had a plugin, that used the syspref |
| 20:55 | then it would just be touching .tt files | |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | that really would be top notch. |
| 20:55 | rangi | much easier |
| 20:56 | cait | and very easy to add more formats later on :) |
| 20:57 | mveron | me/ I just want prevent potential Koha-Users in Switzerland to say: "They not even can display our currency". |
| 20:57 | cait | mveron: we never got any complaints if that helps :) |
| 20:58 | mveron | cait: How many Koha-Installations in Switzerland? |
| 20:58 | cait | but it's true, it would be nice if Koha could do it better :( |
| 20:58 | 7 in germany, but it's wrong here too | |
| 20:59 | rangi | yep, i just want us to fix it properly so we dont have to redo this all again for the next currency |
| 20:59 | :) | |
| 20:59 | * cait | nods |
| 20:59 | mveron | Oh... I see. I just wanted to make a little joke about Euro :-) |
| 20:59 | cait | if we get the plugin right |
| 20:59 | mveron | But you are rigt, it should be done à fond. |
| 20:59 | cait | ew could try to insert it into the templates in marseille perhaps |
| 21:00 | rangi | the way the eurozone is going, who knows how long we will have the euro :) |
| 21:00 | cait | could be a good time perhaps to step through lots of templates in a group |
| 21:01 | * mveron | Just wanted to have some small thing to get used to git / patch / etc... |
| 21:01 | rangi | well if you add the syspref and write the logic to format it |
| 21:01 | ill turn that into a plugin for you | |
| 21:02 | cait | not sure if we should reuse the existing pref |
| 21:02 | rangi | you can move it |
| 21:02 | cait | but might be cleaner to add a new pref in i18n? |
| 21:03 | rangi | hmmm 2 prefs for currency? |
| 21:03 | that might get messy really fast | |
| 21:03 | cait | no, get rid of the other |
| 21:03 | rangi | id just move it |
| 21:03 | cait | not sure how that works really |
| 21:03 | rangi | you can move it by just changin what .pref file its in |
| 21:03 | simple as that | |
| 21:04 | cait | talking about the other pref |
| 21:04 | mveron | You would have to extract tohe format string form "EURO: 360,000,00... |
| 21:04 | cait | how it formats and where it's used |
| 21:05 | mveron: that does not look right | |
| 21:06 | mveron | rangi: I think 2 prefs would be OK, one to do the formats and one to choose. Anyway, there could be situations where you need e.g. CHF and EURO |
| 21:06 | So you need to be able to properly format all currencies. | |
| 21:07 | sekjal | would need to be able to indicate the formatting style for manually added currencies |
| 21:08 | so, a set of formats, and then each currency can be associated with one | |
| 21:08 | rangi | my first step would be get it in a plugin, and just add CHF to the list koha can format, next step would be to allow arbitrary formats |
| 21:08 | else you are doing it the hardway | |
| 21:09 | consilidate code first, then change it | |
| 21:09 | mveron | rangi: I agree. |
| 21:10 | ...and add Euro in the same step. I dont'think they want t use CHF in Germany :-) CHF is to heigh :-) (Which is a problem for us). | |
| 21:12 | I propose to file a bug / enhancementfor the currency thing (maybe there is alredy one?) | |
| 21:13 | rangi | yeah have a search, and file one |
| 21:14 | mveron | And then look to find a very tiny, little bug/enhancement, because I would like to walk through the whole process... Just for learning... |
| 21:14 | Ok, Rangi, will seachr & file... | |
| 21:14 | * mveron | Should put his glasses |
| 21:15 | cait | tired - night all! |
| 21:17 | mveron | Good night, cait |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | gnite cait |
| 21:17 | cait | :) |
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| 22:00 | mveron | rangi: I found Bug 4078 - Display active currency symbol on currency output and input |
| 22:00 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4078 trivial, P5 - low, ---, aleksa, In Discussion , Display active currency symbol on currency output and input |
| 22:00 | mveron | Patch by Aleksa Vujicic. Paul Poulin commented: "I think it's the *perfect* candidate for Template::Toolkit plugins." |
| 22:00 | Aleksa did a lot of work to find where in the code such function would apply (an dadded to patch). | |
| 22:00 | IMHO the sub could be renamed / refactored not only to put a currency Indicator, but do the formatting as well | |
| 22:02 | maximep | hmmm and is that patch only for "$" or for "$ CAD" ? |
| 22:04 | mveron | I would need such patch for CHF (Swiss Francs). |
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| 22:29 | * Space_Librarian | eyes her catalogue warily |
| 22:30 | mveron | ? |
| 22:31 | Space_Librarian | my catalogue caches, and I have to wait for the hour to see how it looks. |
| 22:31 | * Space_Librarian | and the awesome wizzyrea have been hacking subfields |
| 22:32 | mveron | Oh, my fvorite movie: Some gauge running through, waiting until it is finished |
| 22:32 | Space_Librarian | :) |
| 22:33 | mveron | The Zen of gauge... (or something like this...) |
| 22:33 | rangi | your catalogue caches? |
| 22:34 | Space_Librarian | seeing if we can get the 490a to display as a subtitle in the short form records of the articles... |
| 22:34 | it should work | |
| 22:34 | but it's not showing in the opac yet | |
| 22:34 | rangi | ah yep |
| 22:34 | hmm it should show pretty much instaneously .. is there some kinda proxy between you and the catalogue? | |
| 22:35 | Space_Librarian | you would know better than I. |
| 22:35 | rangi | well theres not at our end |
| 22:35 | Space_Librarian | There are many things, Horatio... that work in the staff client and don't quite do it on the opac |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | memcache wouldn't affect it? |
| 22:36 | * wizzyrea | doesn't know how it works |
| 22:36 | * Space_Librarian | doesn't either |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | (in practice) |
| 22:36 | rangi | you did it with keyword to marc mappings? |
| 22:36 | * Space_Librarian | nods |
| 22:36 | rangi | do you xslt display switched on for both ? |
| 22:36 | * Space_Librarian | looks at wizzyrea |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 22:36 | Space_Librarian | yup. Checked that |
| 22:37 | rangi | then nope no idea, theres no caching of detail pages at this end |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | results either |
| 22:37 | Space_Librarian | oh geez. this just keeps getting better. |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | http://catalog.nexpresslibrary[…]l?q=naruto&limit= |
| 22:38 | this is what ours looks like with the subtitle/volume keywords on | |
| 22:38 | as far as I've been told you can stick any marc field in those mappings and it'll show up where the subtitle goes | |
| 22:38 | also: we should make more keywords. | |
| 22:38 | Space_Librarian | and that looks good |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | :P |
| 22:39 | Space_Librarian | more keywords. yes |
| 22:39 | rangi | whats a good search to test with Space_Librarian ? |
| 22:39 | Space_Librarian | emar2012 |
| 22:39 | all the articles we're about to promote | |
| 22:42 | rangi | so 490 is the series statement right? |
| 22:42 | Space_Librarian | yup. |
| 22:42 | 490a | |
| 22:44 | rangi | interesting |
| 22:45 | Space_Librarian | that's never a good sign. |
| 22:46 | rangi | the only Other Title in the xsl for the opac is for 246 |
| 22:46 | * Space_Librarian | looks blankly at rangi |
| 22:46 | Space_Librarian | I thought I'd changed that |
| 22:47 | rangi | no not you, is in the xsl im just seeing where the subtitle bit is referenced in the xsl |
| 22:47 | and its not | |
| 22:48 | the reason it shows up for liz | |
| 22:48 | is this | |
| 22:48 | <xsl:if test="marc:subfield[@code='b']"> | |
| 22:48 | <xsl:text> </xsl:text> | |
| 22:48 | <xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect"> | |
| 22:48 | <xsl:with-param name="codes">b</xsl:with-param> | |
| 22:48 | </xsl:call-template> | |
| 22:48 | </xsl:if> | |
| 22:48 | Space_Librarian | ah-ha. |
| 22:48 | rangi | its showing the 245b |
| 22:48 | because the xsl is telling it to | |
| 22:48 | wizzyrea | we show the p and n and 490v as well |
| 22:48 | and afaict they all show... or maybe they don't. | |
| 22:49 | rangi | yep |
| 22:49 | Space_Librarian | :s so confuzzed |
| 22:49 | rangi | nothing to do with keywords tho |
| 22:49 | the xslt has no idea about that | |
| 22:49 | Space_Librarian | coolio |
| 22:49 | wizzyrea | we have those all mapped in keyword -> marc mapping, they didn't show before, and now they do? THis seems odd to me based on what you're saying |
| 22:50 | http://screencast.com/t/Bmc9rmebYlNK | |
| 22:50 | rangi | can you show me one of that has 490 showing in your result list? |
| 22:50 | wizzyrea | like so |
| 22:50 | sec | |
| 22:51 | rangi | do you have xslt on liz? |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 22:51 | and nothing special afaik | |
| 22:51 | rangi | cos looking at the code, nothing in here looks for keywords |
| 22:51 | but if you can find one with a 490v showing i can find out how its oding it | |
| 22:51 | wizzyrea | k sec |
| 22:53 | sorry, lol, takes a sec to find one I had to ask ^.^ | |
| 22:56 | rangi | http://library.nzica.com/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=34847 <-- Space_Librarian i can see the 490a here .. so its just the results page you want it? |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | ok don't be mad - the v doesn't show in the opac |
| 22:56 | rangi | hehe |
| 22:56 | wizzyrea | but it does in the intranet :) |
| 22:56 | rangi | not mad, just way less puzzled |
| 22:56 | yeah | |
| 22:56 | xslt is different there | |
| 22:56 | Space_Librarian | yeah, we sorta need it in the results page. |
| 22:56 | it's fine in the full record | |
| 22:57 | rangi | because results in intranet ... doesnt use xslt :) |
| 22:57 | lemme try something | |
| 22:57 | wizzyrea | moar keywords :) |
| 22:57 | rangi | (there is no results xslt for intranet) |
| 22:57 | so it uses normal, which does keywords xslt doesnt, and never has | |
| 22:58 | http://library.nzica.com/cgi-b[…]rch.pl?q=emar2012 | |
| 22:58 | thats normal results display in the opac, and now, we have subtitles | |
| 22:58 | wizzyrea | hrm |
| 22:59 | rangi | so there are 2 options, go with normal |
| 22:59 | MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl | |
| 22:59 | to display 490 | |
| 22:59 | wizzyrea | not so keen on intranetxslt then bc our librarians lurve the subtitles |
| 22:59 | + volume stuff | |
| 22:59 | and series info | |
| 22:59 | rangi | yep you can of course make the xslt show them |
| 23:00 | but it has to be something everyone wants to upstream it | |
| 23:00 | Space_Librarian: that link was for you | |
| 23:00 | wizzyrea | I simply cannot imagine that people would *not* want to see the subtitles in results |
| 23:00 | @quote get 123 | |
| 23:00 | huginn | wizzyrea: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 23:00 | Space_Librarian | gotit. Ta! :) |
| 23:00 | wizzyrea | but there is that. |
| 23:00 | * wizzyrea | sighs |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | well we have "link to custom xslt" now |
| 23:01 | Space_Librarian | it is mad. |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | don't we? |
| 23:01 | so you can make your own and get rid of it if you don't like it :P | |
| 23:01 | Space_Librarian | Our reference librarian loves |
| 23:01 | it* | |
| 23:01 | rangi | not yet we dont |
| 23:01 | wizzyrea | oh it's 5. |
| 23:01 | ha | |
| 23:02 | Space_Librarian | Yet the & are displaying as & in the titles on the opac. |
| 23:03 | wizzyrea | that was a bug |
| 23:03 | Space_Librarian | Our cataloguer is having a heart attack. This is hilarious. |
| 23:03 | rangi | just switch back to xslt |
| 23:03 | oh wait i just did | |
| 23:03 | Space_Librarian | wizzyrea++ |
| 23:03 | rangi++ | |
| 23:03 | rangi | back how it was |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | bug 7535 |
| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | awesome. |
| 23:04 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7535 minor, P5 - low, ---, ruth, Pushed to Master , OPAC displays ampersands incorrectly. |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | fixed now though |
| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | rofl |
| 23:04 | rangi | so probably what you want is the 490(all subfields) to display in the xslt |
| 23:04 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 23:04 | Space_Librarian | you turned it back on, and we lost the 490a lol |
| 23:04 | rangi | yes |
| 23:04 | like i said you can have xslt | |
| 23:05 | or the 490a | |
| 23:05 | at the moment | |
| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | Okay. |
| 23:05 | I need lunch, and I will think on it. | |
| 23:05 | wizzyrea | or you can go up to 3.6 4 and get that tiny patch >.> |
| 23:05 | * wizzyrea | cackles |
| 23:06 | rangi | yep or tht |
| 23:27 | maximep left #koha | |
| 23:52 | Space_Librarian | orly... |
| 23:53 | rangi | that would fix the amp issue, so you could use normal view in the results page |
| 23:53 | Space_Librarian | the thing is... could it display on the next line... |
| 23:54 | rangi | but you might like the icons etc that you get in xslt |
| 23:54 | it could if you made the xslt display the 490 | |
| 23:54 | not using the keywords method | |
| 23:56 | ky joined #koha | |
| 23:57 | ky | Hi All, Does anyone here have any experience with Koha + Vufind ? |
| 23:57 | rangi | not me |
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