IRC log for #koha, 2012-03-03

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07:07 cait oh
07:07 a new birthday
07:07 @later tell JesseM Happy birthday!
07:07 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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17:38 mib_4jbh1v hi
17:38 wahanui bonjour, mib_4jbh1v
17:38 mib_4jbh1v good evening
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17:53 shiv can i install koha in windows vista
17:53 jcamins_away shiv: no you cannot.
17:54 shiv ok
17:54 then what is the best option
17:55 cait linux
17:55 debian has packages, ubuntu is also easy
17:55 jcamins_away shiv: you need a Linux server. You could run Debian under VirtualBox.
17:55 cait and if you have to run it in a windows environment, using somthing like virtualbox
17:55 shiv ok
17:55 ok
17:56 ok
17:56 can i get the manual of koha installation with vitualbox
17:57 cait it depends on what you install as os in vitualbox
17:57 you install virtualbox, then install linux in it
17:57 and from there it's a standard koha installation
17:58 you can find installation instructions in koha itself, the files start with INSTALL
17:58 shiv ok
17:58 ok
17:58 cait or you can install debian and use the packages
17:58 packages?
17:58 wahanui package info is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
17:58 shiv is there any site where i can get ubuntu with koha
17:58 jcamins_away shiv: no, you will need to install Ubuntu, then Koha.
17:59 shiv ok
17:59 cait where are you from shiv?
18:00 shiv india
18:00 and u
18:01 any latest live cd
18:01 cait germany
18:01 shiv with ubuntu
18:01 jcamins_away This is the most recent I know of, but it's *very* old: http://sourceforge.net/project[…]/files/release-8/
18:02 cait I think there is an updated live cd from kyle hall somewhere
18:02 google should find it
18:03 but dpeending on what you want to do
18:03 a live cd is not always recommendable
18:04 shiv ok
18:05 debian or ubuntu - what is the best
18:05 jcamins_away shiv: it doesn't matter.
18:05 shiv ok
18:08 cait heh
18:08 jcamins is here  - yay :)
18:09 jcamins :)
18:10 cait cookies?
18:10 wahanui Cookies are delicious delicacies
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18:13 rangi heh marcelr skirts trouble with that email
18:13 jcamins I was just thinking that.
18:14 cait oh
18:14 * cait goes to read
18:15 cait hm not sure i get it
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18:38 jcamins I learned earlier today that "poodle skirts" (from the 1950s) were skirts with pictures of poodles on them. Four hours later, I still can't get over that fact.
18:38 cait lol
18:38 photos?
18:39 jcamins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poodle_skirt
18:39 cait jcamins++
18:39 not for the poodle skirts.... jcamins++
18:51 jcamins rangi: around?
18:52 rangi yep, for a little bit longer
18:52 jcamins I'm looking at bug 7065.
18:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7065 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , reserves table needs a primary key
18:52 jcamins There is a gap between old_reserves and reserves.
18:53 Wait, no there isn't.
18:53 rangi ;)
18:54 jcamins This is odd.
18:54 I guess when you do an ALTER TABLE the table isn't resorted by primary key?
18:55 rangi well theres one issue
18:55 you dont want auto_increment on old_reserves
18:55 jcamins Yeah, it's removed after the update.
18:55 rangi hmmm
18:56 yeah i dont like it
18:58 jcamins I guess the proper way to do it is create a temporary table?
18:58 rangi yes
18:58 and also, im not seeing where it changes the old_reserves
18:59 jcamins At the very end.
18:59 rangi no
18:59 the update_sth
18:59 it does the same one twice
18:59 the 2 whiles
19:00 not changing renumbering old_reserves
19:00 or am i missing something
19:00 +    my $query = "UPDATE reserves SET reservenumber = ? WHERE reservenumber = ?";
19:00 +    my $update_sth = $dbh->prepare( $query );
19:00 jcamins Oh, I see.
19:00 rangi then it runs that updated_sth twice
19:00 so it just renumbers reserves twice
19:00 jcamins I think you are correct.
19:00 rangi doesnt renumber old_reserves at all
19:01 cait ouch
19:01 rangi and even if it did there is a chance that you would renumber them both to the same numbers
19:01 or at least have some collisions
19:01 so that when you updated (shifted one from reserves to old_reserves) later
19:02 youd overwrite a reserve
19:02 or the insert would simply fail
19:03 cait eek
19:03 jcamins No, I don't think that's what's going on.
19:03 rangi no its doing reserves twice
19:03 jcamins Oh, it certainly is.
19:03 rangi but im saying if it did renumber them independently like it says its trying to do
19:03 jcamins But I think one of those is entirely extraneous.
19:04 rangi if you dont renumber them both, contiguiously
19:04 jcamins I think the comments are all wrong.
19:04 rangi you run the risk of having the same numbers in both
19:04 and then you make mess for the future
19:04 * rangi hopes he is making sense
19:04 cait hm
19:05 jcamins The numbering seems to work.
19:05 rangi but it doesnt change old_reserves
19:05 cait so renumber them manually, first oldreserves then reserves?
19:05 rangi that would work
19:05 jcamins It renumberes old_reserves at the beginning.
19:06 *renumbers
19:06 Using the ALTER TABLE.
19:06 rangi hmm, that should definitely not do that
19:06 thats def a mysqlism
19:07 jcamins It also doesn't work properly.
19:07 rangi yeah
19:07 jcamins It breaks the index.
19:07 rangi yup
19:07 jcamins Somehow.
19:07 It's weird.
19:07 rangi personally id renumber them with with a loop
19:07 old_reserves first, then reserves
19:07 cait makes sense
19:08 rangi and id also make the column unique
19:08 jcamins That won't work either.
19:08 rangi why not?
19:08 cait jcamins: why not?
19:09 lol
19:09 rangi dont use auto_increment to number them, just select all, set the reservenumber
19:09 jcamins At least, as far as I can tell, adding a primary key leaves the InnoDB indexes incorrect.
19:09 rangi thats easy to fix
19:09 you just tell it to optimize the table
19:09 jcamins Ah.
19:10 rangi the classy thing to do would be to do
19:10 if mysql
19:10 optimize reserves
19:13 short answer
19:13 * jcamins works on condensing this into something short.
19:14 rangi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Mj1Us13Yk
19:14 cait heh
19:14 jcamins lol
19:21 cait rangi++ :)
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19:48 jcamins rangi: any objection to my redoing bug 7284 to use the environment variable?
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements
19:48 jcamins Not 7284.
19:48 Sorry. bug 7248
19:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, Patch doesn't apply , Caching for services
19:54 jcamins Never mind. I'm not quite sure how to.
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22:16 bag @wunder 93109
22:16 huginn bag: The current temperature in K6LCM-Westside/Mesa, Santa Barbara, California is 23.9°C (2:16 PM PST on March 03, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 10%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.17 in 1021.6 hPa (Falling).
22:16 bag @wunder wellington, nz
22:16 huginn bag: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (11:00 AM NZDT on March 04, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.98 in 1015 hPa (Steady).
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22:45 druthb o/
22:45 jcamins \o
22:46 druthb :D
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