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| 05:53 | cait | hi #koha :) |
| 06:31 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait |
| 06:31 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
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| 07:03 | halfie | hi, how do I enable sending emails in Koha? ./koha-email-enable script for an "instancename" which I don't know about. |
| 07:06 | cait | halfie: you have installed koha using the packages? |
| 07:06 | you have to set up an mta on your system that koha can use | |
| 07:06 | halfie | cait: I installed Koha from source distribution. I already have postfix working on the system. |
| 07:06 | cait | and if you used the packages the instancename will be the name of the koha installation you want to activate mails for |
| 07:07 | I am not sure what source distribution menas - did you use the koha-common packages? | |
| 07:07 | halfie | cait: I used source distribution and did "make install". source distribution implies koha-latest.tar.gz tarball distribution. |
| 07:08 | cait | halfie: ah ok |
| 07:08 | then you are not using the packages | |
| 07:08 | there are debian packages and the koha-email-enable script is for those | |
| 07:08 | have you set up the cronjobs for koha? | |
| 07:08 | for most mails | |
| 07:09 | koha writes the mail into a database table message_queue and will send them out when the cronjob process_message_queue (might have a typo here) is run | |
| 07:09 | for generating overdue mails you need the overdues cronjob | |
| 07:09 | for date due and reminder mails the advance_notices cronjob | |
| 07:09 | it's in the documentation I think | |
| 07:09 | documentation? | |
| 07:09 | wahanui | documentation is probably at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 07:11 | halfie | okay, I followed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu and currently, I only have a single rebuild_zebra.pl job in cron. |
| 07:11 | cait | ah |
| 07:11 | what kind of mails were you trying to send? | |
| 07:12 | having the rebuild_zebra is good | |
| 07:12 | you only miss a little bit of configuration for the mails | |
| 07:12 | and you said you already have postfix - so should not be hard :) | |
| 07:13 | halfie | cait: user (patron) creation mails. I was trying to inform users when their accounts are created. |
| 07:13 | cait | hmm |
| 07:13 | those are a special case | |
| 07:13 | because they circumvent the message_queue | |
| 07:13 | no cronjobs required here | |
| 07:13 | do you have a notice set up under tools > notices? | |
| 07:13 | and also | |
| 07:14 | the message will only be sent out, if you add a password on creation of the user | |
| 07:14 | I have tested that a while ago - hope it still behaves like that | |
| 07:14 | halfie | cait: cool, trying it out |
| 07:15 | cait | the notice should be in module members and named ACCTDETAILS |
| 07:15 | there is a sample notice that comes with Koha - but you have to select them during installation I think | |
| 07:20 | halfie | cait: I created a user with email and password set but the new user still didn't receive an email. trying to debug .. |
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| 07:20 | marcelr | hello koha |
| 07:21 | cait | halfie: the latest version - 3.6.3? right? |
| 07:21 | halfie: I can try and test perhaps when at work | |
| 07:21 | good morning marcelr | |
| 07:21 | :) | |
| 07:21 | marcelr | hi cait :-) |
| 07:22 | halfie | cait: yes 3.6.3 |
| 07:22 | cait | halfie: perhaps it was username and password... I remember it would not send out the mails when editing the patron after its first creation |
| 07:22 | halfie: I guess you have activated the system preference? | |
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| 07:24 | halfie | cait: yes, I have set email in system preferences. I also crated a new user with username and password set but didn't receive an email. |
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| 07:28 | cait | hm sorry |
| 07:28 | running out of ideas :( | |
| 07:28 | AutoEmailOpacUser is the one to look at | |
| 07:28 | that should be set to send | |
| 07:31 | halfie | cait:I am checking the logs now. that fiels is already set to send. I am clearing the logs and creating a new user for debugging. |
| 07:32 | cait | sounds good :) |
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| 07:39 | halfie | cait: after restarting postfix email notifcations are working :). thanks for all the help. |
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| 07:40 | halfie | Can I configure Koha to show local time instead of UTC? |
| 07:40 | reiveune | hello |
| 07:40 | marcelr | hi reiveune |
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| 07:43 | julian_m | hi |
| 07:43 | wahanui | privet, julian_m |
| 07:45 | marcelr | hi julian_m |
| 07:46 | julian_m | hi marcelr |
| 07:46 | cait | halfie: I think it uses the time on your server/locale |
| 07:46 | hi julian_m | |
| 07:46 | halfie: and glad it worked :) | |
| 07:47 | julian_m | hi cait |
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| 07:55 | halfie | cait: do I need a cron job for sending an email when somebody puts a book on hold? |
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| 08:01 | gaetan_B | hello #koha! |
| 08:02 | marcelr | hello gaetan_B |
| 08:02 | hi magnus_afk | |
| 08:03 | magnus_afk | kia ora #koha amd marcelr |
| 08:03 | s/amd/and/ | |
| 08:03 | @wunder boo | |
| 08:03 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 7.0°C (8:50 AM CET on March 01, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 29.36 in 994 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:03 | magnus_afk | yay!! |
| 08:03 | wunder marseille | |
| 08:03 | marcelr | @ |
| 08:03 | magnus_afk | @wunder marseille |
| 08:03 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 6.0°C (8:30 AM CET on March 01, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:03 | magnus_afk | gah |
| 08:03 | heh! | |
| 08:03 | @wunder konstanz | |
| 08:03 | huginn | magnus_afk: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 3.1°C (8:59 AM CET on March 01, 2012). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 98%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024.6 hPa (Steady). |
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| 09:03 | kf | hi |
| 09:03 | #koha | |
| 09:06 | slef | morning kf and #koha |
| 09:06 | kivilahtio | guten morgen |
| 09:11 | magnus_afk | hiya kf slef kivilahtio |
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| 10:28 | paul_p | hello everybody |
| 10:28 | marcelr | hi paul_p |
| 10:28 | QAing 5877 | |
| 10:28 | mveron | Hi everybody at #koha |
| 10:28 | marcelr | hi mveron |
| 10:30 | mveron | We stubled over a nasty little bug in Patron Categories. |
| 10:30 | paul_p | bug 5877 |
| 10:30 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
| 10:30 | paul_p | marcelr++ |
| 10:30 | !!! | |
| 10:30 | kf | hello again |
| 10:31 | mveron | If you use the + sign in the category code, like +TEST you can not edit or delete the category. |
| 10:31 | You have to emove it using sql | |
| 10:31 | marcelr | sounds like a good catch! |
| 10:31 | mveron | Hello kf |
| 10:31 | marcelr: Seking about my little bug? | |
| 10:32 | peking.. | |
| 10:32 | marcelr | talking |
| 10:32 | mveron | Speaking.. Should put my glasses :-) |
| 10:32 | marcelr | peking is in china |
| 10:32 | at least in dutch | |
| 10:32 | beijing | |
| 10:32 | mveron | Spreek jeNederlands? :-) |
| 10:32 | marcelr | jazeker |
| 10:33 | mveron | Ik studeerde Neerlandistiek in Utrecht, het is heel lang geleden... |
| 10:33 | marcelr | en waar ben je nu? |
| 10:34 | mveron | Allschwil vlakbij Basel |
| 10:34 | marcelr | ok |
| 10:35 | kf | :) |
| 10:35 | mveron: I would always be careful using alphanumeric values in codes | |
| 10:35 | marcelr | kf can read dutch too, i suppose |
| 10:35 | mveron | Leuk... |
| 10:35 | marcelr | so be careful |
| 10:35 | kf | mveron: we tend to use only capital letters and numbers |
| 10:35 | mveron: safe :) | |
| 10:36 | marcelr: guessing words - but not really reading :) | |
| 10:36 | mveron | kf: I know, but our librarians did not and comlained :-) |
| 10:36 | marcelr | mveron: will you make a patch? |
| 10:36 | * mveron | Phone call |
| 10:37 | kf | mveron: there was some discussion about a javascript check |
| 10:37 | mveron: for authorized values - I think you could look at that bug and code to figure something out | |
| 10:38 | bug 7013 | |
| 10:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7013 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, In Discussion , required format is not enforced for authorized values |
| 10:43 | paul_p | julian_m++ (for bug 7169 follow-up, that will please kf ) |
| 10:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7169 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Change booksellers search results display |
| 10:45 | kf | ooh |
| 10:45 | let's see :) | |
| 10:45 | ah, and Julian fixed the warning | |
| 10:45 | :) | |
| 10:45 | and the xhtml | |
| 10:46 | julian_m++ | |
| 10:46 | mveron: hope that's nto a blocker ;) would say it's partly training. Codes are Codes - be careful with spaces too | |
| 10:47 | * mveron | Back from phone |
| 10:49 | mveron | kf: No, not a blocker, just a little bit nasty. JavaScript check would be fine. |
| 10:50 | julian_m | :) |
| 10:50 | kf | julian_m: I was traveeling and forgot to retest - glad you were able to fix the warning and xhtml |
| 10:52 | marcelr | QAing bug 7557 |
| 10:52 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference |
| 10:52 | julian_m | kf the error message you wrote was sufficient to fix the warning ;) |
| 10:53 | kf | cool :) |
| 11:02 | marcelr | kf? |
| 11:02 | wahanui | rumour has it kf is cait or really, really sweet. or <reply>she gives me memory loss or a holds expert |
| 11:02 | marcelr | how are you, wahanui? |
| 11:02 | wahanui | peachy |
| 11:02 | marcelr | ;) |
| 11:03 | no kf? | |
| 11:10 | paul_p | marcelr++ (for QAed bug 5877) |
| 11:10 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Passed QA , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
| 11:11 | marcelr | Qaing bug 7379 |
| 11:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7379 normal, P3, ---, adrien.saurat, Signed Off , copynumber is displayed 'as is' when linked to autorised values |
| 11:11 | paul_p | marcelr could you favor biblibre patches for QA, because I plan to QA non-biblibre patches this afternoon (or more probable, tomorrow) |
| 11:11 | (there should be 4 or 5) | |
| 11:12 | marcelr | paul_p: 7379 is such |
| 11:12 | paul_p | right, perfect then ! |
| 11:12 | marcelr | paul_p: could you take a look at 7310 again too? |
| 11:12 | bug 7310 | |
| 11:12 | paul_p | yep, it's on my list |
| 11:12 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7310 normal, P3, ---, m.de.rooy, Signed Off , Improving permissions on lists (virtual shelves) |
| 11:12 | marcelr | fine |
| 11:12 | paul_p | but I've the RM monthly newsletter to write and some mail for inviting more ppl to the hackfest (some french librarians) |
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| 11:13 | paul_p | to do before. Then back to QA/pushing |
| 11:13 | marcelr | we'll see |
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| 11:20 | * magnus_afk | tries to sign off bug 6440 |
| 11:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets |
| 11:27 | marcelr | QAing bug 7178 |
| 11:27 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Improve order item creation |
| 11:37 | Amit_Gupta | http://box2dflash.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:38 | jcamins_away | marcelr: you know what would be fun to QA? bug 7284! |
| 11:38 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 11:38 | marcelr | :-) i guess so |
| 11:39 | jcamins_away | marcelr: you know you want to. :) |
| 11:39 | marcelr | yes that is the problem.. |
| 11:40 | magnus_afk | good morning jcamins_away :-) |
| 11:41 | marcelr | jcamins++ for the name of 7284 at first only |
| 11:41 | jcamins | Good morning, magnus_afk. |
| 11:42 | marcelr | was that english? |
| 11:42 | hope so | |
| 11:43 | jcamins | marcelr: it was a little confusing, but I think you were saying you like the description "Authority matching algorithm improvements"? |
| 11:44 | marcelr | yes finally |
| 11:44 | :-) | |
| 11:44 | jcamins | :) |
| 11:46 | Platform... HP? | |
| 11:48 | marcelr | Huge Problems |
| 11:48 | jcamins | lol |
| 11:48 | Sounds about right. | |
| 11:49 | mveron | kf: Patron categores: I changed the JavaScript, it first makes a trim, then if not empty checks for allowed characters. Works. Will file a bug. |
| 11:50 | magnus_afk | mveron++ |
| 11:52 | mveron | Thanks, magnus :-) |
| 12:13 | bug 7628 | |
| 12:13 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7628 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Required format is not enforced for Patron Categories |
| 12:17 | * mveron | Has to leave for the weekly Koha meeting |
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| 12:21 | jcamins | Ooh! I can get auto insurance for $12/month! What a deal! Until you consider that it costs an infinite amount per car, anyway. |
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| 12:29 | marcelr | julian_m around ? |
| 12:30 | julian_m | marcelr, yes |
| 12:30 | marcelr | hi julian: question about 7178 |
| 12:30 | my quantity on neworderempty is always readonly? | |
| 12:30 | seems to be so in current master too | |
| 12:31 | with acqcreateitem=ordering | |
| 12:31 | kf | marcelr: sorry, was at lunch |
| 12:31 | marcelr | we normally use cateloging there |
| 12:31 | hi kf | |
| 12:31 | see the problem report.. | |
| 12:32 | julian_m: understand my problem? | |
| 12:32 | kf | marcelr: yes,when you have it on order it is |
| 12:33 | marcelr: there is an enh request | |
| 12:33 | but it's not regressing | |
| 12:33 | only staying the same | |
| 12:33 | julian_m | marcelr, not sure of what you are talking about, when acqcreateitem='ordering' you create items in neworderempty.pl so quantity is automatically increased when you create new items |
| 12:33 | marcelr | so can only order one there now |
| 12:33 | kf | marcelr: you can only fill in quantity manually when creating items in cataloging or on receive |
| 12:34 | marcelr | though that it also was so with receiving? will check that |
| 12:34 | kf | marcelr: it's a request from big libraries to change it - but it's like that now and after the patch, so I think it should not fail qa for not fixing another bug |
| 12:34 | marcelr: yes, when creating on receive, it's like that too :) | |
| 12:34 | on the receive | |
| 12:35 | marcelr | well ok |
| 12:41 | julian_m: with your patch, i cannot edit quantity while it is zero; so i cannot save and i am stuck at neworderempty.. | |
| 12:41 | the item block is completely empty | |
| 12:41 | julian_m | marcelr, with acqcreateitem='ordering' ? |
| 12:42 | marcelr | yes |
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| 12:43 | julian_m | marcelr, be sure to refresh entirely the page (.js included), with firefox I had some problems until I press <Ctrl>-F5 |
| 12:43 | marcelr | try |
| 12:43 | no change. | |
| 12:44 | julian_m | marcelr, ok.. :( |
| 12:44 | kf | marcelr: you can never order less than 1 |
| 12:44 | marcelr | it is 0 and readonly |
| 12:44 | kf | oh |
| 12:44 | sorry | |
| 12:44 | misunderstood the question then | |
| 12:44 | you have always to add at least 1 item | |
| 12:44 | marcelr | cannot do it |
| 12:45 | no item block to see | |
| 12:45 | kf | marcelr: did you just start testing? I had it happen to me once while testing, but after F5+ctrl it worked |
| 12:45 | that the item form didn't showup | |
| 12:45 | marcelr | did some refreshes just now |
| 12:45 | kf | and after that it worked |
| 12:45 | I thought it was because of that, so didn't note as a bug | |
| 12:47 | julian_m | marcelr, i want to be sure to understand, does the item form show up once, and disappear after clicking on save, or just never shows up? |
| 12:47 | marcelr | see 7178 uploaded a screenshot |
| 12:48 | * jcamins | looks to see if there's anything to sign off on this morning as he tries to wake up. |
| 12:49 | jcamins | 7609. |
| 12:49 | marcelr: are you working on bug 7609? | |
| 12:49 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7609 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Improving links to find analytics and volumes when using UseControlnumber |
| 12:49 | marcelr | not now |
| 12:50 | 7178 currently | |
| 12:50 | well working.. | |
| 12:50 | it does not work | |
| 12:50 | kf | jcamins: that is a good idea |
| 12:51 | julian_m | marcelr, tested just now, freshly rebased on master, I reproduce your problem, but when I hit ctrl-F5, the form appears :-/ |
| 12:51 | marcelr | julian: added a comment |
| 12:51 | about template neworderempty | |
| 12:51 | that is the problem | |
| 12:52 | kf | marcelr++ |
| 12:52 | successful qa - found what I missed :) | |
| 12:52 | sure it can be fixed and then it will be awesome | |
| 12:53 | marcelr | julian: your patch introduces that line |
| 12:54 | slef | any suggestions for who's got a nice library logo on their koha? |
| 12:54 | jcamins | slef: ACPL? |
| 12:54 | kf | ^^ |
| 12:54 | jcamins | It's very popular in India. |
| 12:54 | slef | wahanui: ACPL? |
| 12:54 | wahanui | slef: no idea |
| 12:55 | julian_m | marcelr, I don't think readonly is your problem, this is the normal behaviour. The problem is that you don't see the form and therefore can't add items |
| 12:55 | slef | jcamins: myacpl.org ? |
| 12:55 | jcamins | ACPL is Athens County Public library. |
| 12:55 | slef: right. | |
| 12:55 | marcelr | julian: it is the combination of 0 + readonly? |
| 12:55 | slef | I'd like one that is using prog templates if possible, to give a small library an idea |
| 12:56 | kf | julian_m, marcelr: I think that is right |
| 12:56 | jcamins | oleonard uses prog. |
| 12:56 | slef: I think I'm missing something about what you're looking for. | |
| 12:56 | slef | ACPL bust their logo out of the usual logo position (opacCss maybe) |
| 12:56 | kf | slef: I think most libraries use prog, others don't work well, it's all css and js |
| 12:57 | slef | I'm looking for a nice logo in the usual logo position (sorry for not qualifying it) |
| 12:57 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 12:57 | Well, this one is... not awful, maybe: http://donum.numismatics.org/ | |
| 12:58 | kf | hfjs.bsz-bw.de ? |
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| 12:58 | julian_m | marcelr, the quantity is automatically incremented as you add items. This behaviour is not different from master, right? (the difference is that on master quantity start at 1 instead of 0) |
| 12:59 | slef | jcamins: it'll do as an example |
| 12:59 | kf: nice one | |
| 12:59 | marcelr | julian_m: but cannot add items too |
| 12:59 | see jpg | |
| 13:01 | julian_m | marcelr, yes, that is the problem, did you see any javascript errors (with firebug or other) ? |
| 13:02 | marcelr | no but will look |
| 13:03 | lots of errors there | |
| 13:04 | Waarschuwing: Onbekende eigenschap ‘zoom’. Declaratie genegeerd. | |
| 13:04 | oops dutch | |
| 13:04 | Unknown property zoom | |
| 13:04 | same for Xposition | |
| 13:04 | all coming from yui/skon | |
| 13:04 | all coming from yui/skin | |
| 13:07 | julian_m | marcelr, still talking about neworderempty o_ô ? I never seen these messages before... :-/ |
| 13:07 | marcelr | yes one refresh there generates tens of warnings |
| 13:07 | from skin and staff-global mostly | |
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| 13:10 | marcelr | julian_m: if i repeat on current master, i also have lots of warnings but they are not all the same (!) |
| 13:10 | julian_m | marcelr, ok, it seems that some javascript fails and so the piece of js that should load the item form is not executed. don't know what to do since i do not reproduce |
| 13:10 | jcamins | marcelr: do you have any custom javascript in intranetuserjs? |
| 13:10 | marcelr | no |
| 13:11 | julian_m | marcelr, any special version of yui libraries maybe? :) |
| 13:11 | * jcamins | is out of ideas, then. |
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| 13:12 | marcelr | no special yui too |
| 13:12 | dutch firefox though?? | |
| 13:14 | julian: do you test with english or french firefox? | |
| 13:14 | or another browser? | |
| 13:15 | julian_m | marcelr, without the patch do you get the same error messages? |
| 13:16 | marcelr, firefox 10 (french) | |
| 13:16 | marcelr | not all message are the same |
| 13:16 | in both cases lots of warnings | |
| 13:16 | jcamins | marcelr: you've had other instances of javascript problems. |
| 13:16 | There was that bug in cataloging that I couldn't duplicate. | |
| 13:16 | What version of FF are you using? | |
| 13:17 | marcelr | was that javascript? |
| 13:17 | 9.0.1 | |
| 13:17 | jcamins | marcelr: oh, no, I guess it wasn't javascript. |
| 13:17 | Well, browser-related problems. | |
| 13:17 | marcelr | yeah |
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| 13:18 | jcamins | What OS are you on? |
| 13:20 | marcelr | windows 7 |
| 13:20 | wahanui | windows 7 is starting to tick me off |
| 13:20 | jcamins | lol |
| 13:20 | marcelr | yes |
| 13:20 | magnus_afk | hehe |
| 13:21 | jcamins | I think other people are using Windows 7 too, though, so I have no idea what the problem could be. |
| 13:22 | marcelr | submitting nice comment on 7178 :-) |
| 13:24 | kf | marcelr: commented bug 7557 |
| 13:24 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7557 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Change hardcoded routing list note into a system preference |
| 13:24 | marcelr | julian_m: got another idea, checking some security things on linux now |
| 13:25 | kf | marcelr: :) |
| 13:25 | marcelr | selinux |
| 13:25 | kf | hope you can follow |
| 13:25 | marcelr | hi kf |
| 13:25 | understood that? | |
| 13:25 | kf | hm? |
| 13:25 | marcelr | reading it |
| 13:26 | kf | I meant hope my comment on 7557 makes sense :) |
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| 13:27 | marcelr | kf: would you be changing the note regularly then? |
| 13:27 | kf | no, but each library can have a default note |
| 13:27 | like: please keep the issue only for 2 days max before giving it to the next person on list | |
| 13:28 | and if they want, they can add an individual note too (that's already there), like: CD is in the office of ... | |
| 13:28 | * marcelr | starts to understand it ;) |
| 13:29 | kf | :) |
| 13:30 | marcelr | kf: will let it pass qa |
| 13:30 | kf | very cool - thank you :) |
| 13:32 | marcelr: reading my own comment it does not make much sense.. glad you understood anyway :) | |
| 13:32 | marcelr | boom |
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| 13:33 | kf | is boom good or bad? |
| 13:33 | marcelr | in this case good |
| 13:33 | :-) | |
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| 13:33 | kf | phew |
| 13:33 | mbalmer | good afternoon from the swiss meeting ;) |
| 13:34 | marcelr | hi mbalmer |
| 13:34 | kf | hi mbalmer and members of the swiss meeting |
| 13:34 | * magnus_afk | waves at the swiss meeting |
| 13:34 | mbalmer | that's mveron and brigitte bruederlin |
| 13:35 | julian_m | marcelr, at the end of your error messages, i see this "http://libdevelop.rijksmuseum.[…]frameworkcode=ACQ |
| 13:35 | [HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error 1279ms]" itemrecorddisplay.pl is the script that retrieves the item form. If something fails here, there should be something in logs. Could you check when you have a moment? | |
| 13:37 | marcelr | yes i was looking already |
| 13:37 | security stuff | |
| 13:37 | from selinux | |
| 13:38 | kf | marcelr: in the koha logs? |
| 13:38 | marcelr | yes |
| 13:42 | julian_m: we found it; the item box is doing something now; will look at it again; thx | |
| 13:43 | * marcelr | thinks that security is a great thing, except when forgetting your keys |
| 13:44 | julian_m | just by curiosity marcelr, why selinux was 'blocking' this script? |
| 13:44 | marcelr | script in a new folder did not have the right label for a perl script |
| 13:45 | unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_sys_script_exec_t:s0 | |
| 13:45 | julian_m | ok |
| 13:45 | marcelr | ? |
| 13:45 | forget the smilies | |
| 13:45 | :o | |
| 13:45 | :s | |
| 13:55 | kivilahtio | do you have electronic material? |
| 13:56 | how does Koha deal with eBooks for ex.? | |
| 13:57 | oleonard | kivilahtio: We have MARC records for ebooks and use the 856u field to point to the URL |
| 13:57 | http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]levance&do=Search | |
| 13:58 | kf | nice links :) |
| 13:58 | kivilahtio: you will have to ask oleonard how he did that :) | |
| 14:00 | kivilahtio | how do you control that patrons delete eMaterial after the loan period expires? |
| 14:01 | oleonard | kivilahtio: We don't. the DRM is handled by the service we subscribe to. |
| 14:01 | kivilahtio | oleonard: ok, that's good to hear |
| 14:01 | oleonard: makes our job much easier | |
| 14:02 | oleonard: out of curiosity? how much does this service cost? | |
| 14:02 | oleonard: the eBook services for us are ridiculously expensive | |
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| 14:03 | oleonard | I don't know the numbers because I don't handle the money. We're part of a consortium of libraries and we are obligated to spend a certain amount of money each year |
| 14:03 | kivilahtio | with no way to control how many eBooks can be concurrently loaned, we will run out of budget in a flash |
| 14:06 | magnus_afk | huh, suddenly my dev install gives a 500 error and the logs say "Premature end of script headers". weirdness! |
| 14:08 | marcelr | ay |
| 14:11 | kf | magnus_afk: ouch! |
| 14:11 | magnus_afk | /var/log/apache2/error.log says No such file or directory: exec of '/home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl' failed |
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| 14:11 | magnus_afk | but $ ls -l /home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl |
| 14:11 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 magnus magnus 32144 1 mars 14:58 /home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl | |
| 14:13 | slef | magnus_afk: mount | grep home ? |
| 14:13 | magnus_afk | no output? |
| 14:14 | slef | I'm thinking of two possibilities: whatever fs that is on is mounted noexec, or the perl isn't where the first line of opac-search.pl says |
| 14:14 | magnus_afk | $ which perl |
| 14:14 | /usr/bin/perl | |
| 14:15 | slef | possible third problem is that the apache configuration is misdirecting it somehow (handlers, suexec, or something else) but the error seems a bit confusing |
| 14:15 | ah I knpw | |
| 14:15 | can you: sudo -u www-data ls -l /home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl ? | |
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| 14:16 | magnus_afk | yup: -rwxr-xr-x 1 magnus magnus 32144 1 mars 14:58 /home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/opac-search.pl |
| 14:16 | slef | that was looking for a fourth possibility: could be missing o+rx on a parent folder, most likely /home/magnus |
| 14:17 | well, that's an odd one. Can it run any CGI scripts? Any perl CGI scripts? | |
| 14:17 | If yes to both, can it run a simple helloworld.pl from /home/magnus/kohaclone/opac/ ? | |
| 14:17 | I'm curious as to what the problem is :) | |
| 14:17 | magnus_afk | me too ;-) |
| 14:18 | other pages in the opac work fine | |
| 14:18 | opac-search.pl and opac-user.pl give errors | |
| 14:18 | but not opac-authorities-home.pl | |
| 14:18 | slef | git diff doesn't suggest anything unusual changed about it? |
| 14:19 | magnus_afk | nope |
| 14:19 | slef | try: file opac-search.pl |
| 14:20 | magnus_afk | $ file opac/opac-search.pl |
| 14:20 | opac/opac-search.pl: a /usr/bin/perl\015 script text executable | |
| 14:20 | slef | yay! |
| 14:20 | magnus_afk | \015 ? |
| 14:20 | slef | you've got a file encoding problem |
| 14:20 | marcelr | magnus: save changes and git reset? |
| 14:20 | slef | probably someone been editing it from Windows with an unclean tool? |
| 14:21 | open it in an editor that handles both DOS and Unix encodings and change it back to Unix | |
| 14:21 | or use fromdos if you have it installed | |
| 14:21 | marcelr | dos2unix? |
| 14:21 | * magnus_afk | shudders at the thought of unclean windows-tools |
| 14:21 | slef | marcelr: I was thinking tofrodos |
| 14:22 | marcelr | ? |
| 14:22 | slef | I had one site, years ago, where someone kept breaking scripts and refused to fix or change their tools, so I actually made a "perl\015" symlink to perl :-/ |
| 14:23 | palliative care FTL! | |
| 14:23 | marcelr | ;) |
| 14:24 | magnus_afk | dos2unix opac/opac-search.pl fixed it! |
| 14:24 | slef++ | |
| 14:24 | marcelr++ | |
| 14:25 | it would have taken me the rest of the day to figure that out! | |
| 14:26 | marcelr | great |
| 14:26 | magnus_afk | as to why it happened, i have no clue! it's on a vm that only i use |
| 14:26 | as far as i can remember i just started it up and did normal things | |
| 14:27 | marcelr | keep doing so ! |
| 14:30 | magnus_afk | :-) |
| 14:30 | kf | marcelr++ slef++ koha++ |
| 14:32 | oleonard | Undefined subroutine &main::CanBookBeIssuedCheckout called at /home/oleonard/kohaclone/opac/sco/sco-main.pl line 135. |
| 14:33 | kf | oh |
| 14:33 | denesting strikes again? | |
| 14:33 | marcelr | oleonard: please check if it is moved by the Denesting packages report? |
| 14:33 | kf++ for being faster | |
| 14:33 | oleonard | I find no other references to "CanBookBeIssuedCheckout" other than that one in sco-main.pl |
| 14:34 | marcelr | me too |
| 14:35 | oleonard | http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b3036c166d#patch6 |
| 14:35 | I wonder if it's a typo for CanBookBeIssued? | |
| 14:37 | marcelr | looks like it |
| 14:37 | wahanui | looks like it is a replicate of /usr/share/koha/misc |
| 14:37 | oleonard | Seems to be. I get the correct response now |
| 14:38 | marcelr | mostly reindentation :-) |
| 14:38 | * marcelr | leaves the room |
| 14:39 | slef | magnus_afk: can you check a current clone of the head? I'd hate it if that's come from git.k-c.o |
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| 14:40 | oleonard | slef: file opac/opac-search.pl ? |
| 14:41 | I get opac/opac-search.pl: a /usr/bin/perl script text executable | |
| 14:41 | slef | oleonard: thanks. All's OK then :) |
| 14:42 | magnus_afk | i did a git pull, but that said i was already uptodate, so the changes did not come from there |
| 14:42 | slef | magnus_afk broke his own vm somehow |
| 14:59 | kf | hi all |
| 14:59 | * wizzyrea | scolds magnuse for using unclean windows tools |
| 14:59 | kf | can I get some opinions on bug 7602? |
| 14:59 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7602 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Spent and Ordered pages require full acquisition permissions |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | just kidding |
| 14:59 | :) | |
| 14:59 | oh, slef | |
| 14:59 | kf | wizzyrea: please *smiles nicely* |
| 14:59 | wizzyrea | is there a page you wanted to have be the landing page for kohacon2012 |
| 14:59 | I guessed for the website | |
| 15:01 | kf: I think I'm with you - if you can't change it, what's the harm in viewing it? | |
| 15:01 | but then again | |
| 15:01 | kf | I am torn |
| 15:01 | wizzyrea | we don't use acquisitions |
| 15:01 | and I know people are titchy about money | |
| 15:01 | kf | so looking for opinions |
| 15:02 | it still assumes you have general access to the module | |
| 15:02 | only not limiting to a special permission one of them is enough | |
| 15:02 | magnuse | wizzyrea: :-) |
| 15:02 | kf | I really not sure what's best, but will make it work like people suggest it shoudl :) |
| 15:03 | magnuse | kf++ |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | paul_p - about? |
| 15:05 | paul_p | wizzyrea yep (writing RM newsletter #4) |
| 15:05 | wizzyrea | re: bug 7629, what was your symptom? |
| 15:05 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7629 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update sco.css to include CSS Gradients and prevent error upon missing background image file. |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | no, wrong lol |
| 15:06 | sec | |
| 15:06 | bug 7619 | |
| 15:06 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7619 blocker, P2, ---, paul.poulain, ASSIGNED , 3M self checkout don't work in France |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | there |
| 15:06 | * oleonard | notices Bug 7629 needs signoff, how interesting... |
| 15:06 | wizzyrea | we have a site that just upgraded their self check machines, and have noticed rather odd behaviour out of them, but they are not *broken* |
| 15:07 | kf | wizzyrea: what is the behaviour? |
| 15:07 | we updated a library last week :) | |
| 15:07 | wizzyrea | they connect then time out then reconnect and time out and the SIP services never terminate at the server side. |
| 15:07 | ending up with a zillion hung SIP processes. | |
| 15:07 | paul_p | wizzyrea without the patch = present a borrower card / wait 10 seconds minimum / message OK / present book 1 / "can't be checked-out" / present book 1 / message "ok, checked out / present book 2 / "can't be checked-out" / present book 2 / message "ok, checked out" /... |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | ! that's alarming. |
| 15:08 | paul_p | with the patch : present borrower card / immediate OK / present book 1 / OK, checked out / present book / OK checked out |
| 15:08 | kf | uh |
| 15:08 | weird! | |
| 15:08 | it seems to work | |
| 15:08 | we had problems with the sip server (it died sometimes) but now it seems ok | |
| 15:08 | wizzyrea | kf weren't you talking about something like that a week or so ago? |
| 15:09 | kf | yes |
| 15:09 | paul_p | yes, very weird. And not specific to this customer, as frederic told me he had the same problem |
| 15:09 | kf | rangi recommended changing the settings for min spare |
| 15:09 | or whatever this is called, I told uli and he did... and now it's still alive | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | right, and you know what I bet that helped |
| 15:09 | kf | we want to change it back sometime, testing if that really was the problem |
| 15:09 | but seems stable now | |
| 15:09 | wizzyrea | because it doesn't reach the limit of sip servers |
| 15:09 | paul_p | kf we looked at 3M parameters, and haven't found anything about that. But the library said they'll ask 3M |
| 15:10 | kf | paul_p: this library is using a german vendor - but we have another with 3m that is waitin gfor the update |
| 15:10 | last library we have to update | |
| 15:11 | wizzyrea | I think what you're seeing is the timeout problem. |
| 15:11 | that colin was talking about on bug 5586 | |
| 15:11 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5586 normal, P3, ---, colin.campbell, Pushed to Master , SIP line-endings should use proper SPEC-compliant \r |
| 15:11 | kf | hm right number? |
| 15:12 | wizzyrea | yep |
| 15:12 | info's in the comments | |
| 15:12 | we changed it -> colin started having trouble with timeouts | |
| 15:12 | traced it back to the \r | |
| 15:13 | we just got an update to our 3M machines, and an update to our Koha - with the old ones, it was no problem | |
| 15:14 | with the new ones, we see this weird behavior | |
| 15:14 | but I think because we have a high min spare and/or because we have a cron that checks for too many SIP processes and restarts the sipserver when it reaches a threshold | |
| 15:14 | we don't see the actual *problem* | |
| 15:15 | because there is always a sipserver to (re)connect to | |
| 15:17 | kf | for us it was the sipserver dying - not the self check |
| 15:17 | perhaps file a bug report? | |
| 15:17 | I think documenting would be good | |
| 15:17 | see if others had similar problems | |
| 15:25 | wizzyrea | oh, but the symptom of the two things is essentially the same |
| 15:25 | "the self check doesn't work right" because "the sip server is dying" | |
| 15:26 | kf | ah |
| 15:26 | thought you said the self check died | |
| 15:26 | wizzyrea | it hangs up it's connection with the server, afaict |
| 15:26 | and obsessively tries to reconnect until you run out of spare servers | |
| 15:26 | and then it stops working altogether | |
| 15:29 | kf | :( |
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| 15:38 | wizzyrea | ooo proper iTiva support |
| 15:39 | oy wow that's gonna be fun to test. | |
| 15:40 | magnuse | wassat? the voice message thing? |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | yea |
| 15:40 | * wizzyrea | hopes and hopes for bug 7001 to go through qa soon |
| 15:40 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , User Configurable Slips |
| 15:40 | wizzyrea | as people are adding things right and left to notices >.< |
| 15:41 | needs signoff! blarg. | |
| 15:41 | jcamins | Wasn't it signed off on already? |
| 15:41 | wizzyrea | oh there's a followup |
| 15:41 | for transferslip | |
| 15:41 | oleonard | I have a poll for you all. Here's where the patron image on self checkout is now: http://screencast.com/t/4qbm3F84HvC |
| 15:41 | Better like this? http://screencast.com/t/6nIjESEl | |
| 15:42 | kf | yes |
| 15:42 | oleonard | or this? http://screencast.com/t/MMfV35ZOC |
| 15:42 | kf | third :) |
| 15:43 | quick poll for bug 7602 ? | |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | MMFV35ZOC |
| 15:43 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7602 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Failed QA , Spent and Ordered pages require full acquisition permissions |
| 15:43 | jcamins | Third. |
| 15:43 | oleonard | Great, that's what I thought too. |
| 15:43 | MY OPINION VALIDATED. VOTING CLOSED. | |
| 15:43 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 15:43 | magnuse | lol |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | kf I'm really torn about that one - I just don't know what people want in regards to letting less-privileged users view stuff about money. |
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| 15:44 | magnuse | btw: looks like my problem with the line endings was caused by me setting core.autocrlf=true instead of core.autocrlf=input |
| 15:44 | wizzyrea | people get awfully weird when it comes to money |
| 15:45 | alaquerre | Hi All, Is there a way to exchange information between Koha and Symphony ( SirsiDynix ). Basically, we have a city where the city Library is with Symphony and the college would like to implement Koha and still have access to the documents of the city and vice versa. Is there some kind of bridge for that ? |
| 15:45 | magnuse | wizzyrea, kf: sounds like the safest thing is to restrict access then? |
| 15:45 | kf | magnuse: yep, I think order_manage it is then :) |
| 15:45 | I have no problem with that | |
| 15:45 | only didn't want to go the wrong way | |
| 15:47 | jcamins | alaquerre: you could use Z39.50, possibly, but what is it you're trying to do? |
| 15:47 | wizzyrea | the first question? |
| 15:47 | wahanui | the first question is probably "What are you trying to do?" |
| 15:48 | alaquerre | jcamins - Most important feature is PEB... dont know how to say that in english... "Custom Hold " |
| 15:49 | So that the city will be able to ask a document from the college. Just like site transfert in Koha but with another system. | |
| 15:49 | jcamins | alaquerre: Inter-Library Loan. |
| 15:49 | alaquerre | Exactly! |
| 15:50 | jcamins | fulfillment? |
| 15:50 | Bah. wahanui doesn't know about fulfillment. | |
| 15:50 | FulfILLment might be worth looking at. | |
| 15:50 | It's an open source ILL thing. | |
| 15:50 | oleonard | FulfILLment is http://fulfillment-ill.org/ |
| 15:51 | alaquerre | Interresting! I'll have a look |
| 15:51 | Thanks!! | |
| 15:51 | oleonard | FulfILLment is also an open source project designed to link library catalogs no matter which integrated library system his or her library uses |
| 15:51 | wahanui | okay, oleonard. |
| 15:54 | magnuse | but it's not ready for use yet, i think? |
| 15:57 | jcamins | magnuse: I don't know. It's probably the best option for a "local" ILL facility, though. |
| 16:01 | alaquerre | The hard part is that we will still need to ask Symphony to somehow use this connector... :-) I can do it easily on Koha and try it... But not with Symphony. If at some point I have the same kind of situation with Evergreen it will be possible... Thanks again for your help. |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | I think symphony is one of the first systems to have a connector built for it |
| 16:02 | by fulfillment | |
| 16:02 | * wizzyrea | could be wrong about that |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | there are... 6-7 connectors that are being initially developed? |
| 16:05 | slef | wizzyrea: can I have a kohacon12 page on k-c.o that I can edit as needed? We'll set something else up later. |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | sure, of course |
| 16:05 | slef | thanks! |
| 16:05 | Do I have power to just Add Page? | |
| 16:05 | wizzyrea | give it a try, and if you don't, I will give you that :) |
| 16:06 | you should have rights to do that with your openid account | |
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| 16:21 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:21 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 16:22 | kf | bye gaetan_B |
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| 16:38 | Brooke | @later tell Oak drop me a line, it's getting hot in Tejas. |
| 16:38 | huginn | Brooke: The operation succeeded. |
| 16:39 | wizzyrea | that sounded like secret mafia talk. |
| 16:40 | kf | it was Brooke :) |
| 16:40 | ok, bye #koha | |
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| 16:48 | wizzyrea | hm, question, where is "previous borrower" kept in the db? Items? comes from old_issues? |
| 16:51 | schuster | Brooke - yes Tejas is getting warm! supposed to get up to 85 today! |
| 16:52 | oleonard | wizzyrea: See line 1310 of Items.pm. It queries old_issues. |
| 16:55 | Oh crap, when did Windows update me to IE9 without asking? | |
| 16:55 | * oleonard | gives Windows the finger...again |
| 16:55 | oleonard | Must have been one of those late night unattended "urgent updates" |
| 16:57 | * oleonard | give IE9 the finger for being a hot mess of usability nightmares |
| 16:57 | gives Overdrive the finger for making him use IE in the first place | |
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| 16:57 | * oleonard | looks around for who else wants some |
| 16:59 | * wizzyrea | does not want any |
| 16:59 | wizzyrea | aha. |
| 17:01 | oleonard++ thanks | |
| 17:01 | I was just getting ready to look at items.pm, walked away for coffee and poof you have the answer. :) | |
| 17:02 | doing anything in items.pm requires hipwaders. | |
| 17:02 | and coffee. | |
| 17:03 | pastebot | "nengard" at 98.114.30.184 pasted "need report help with finding patrons without a specific attribute filed in ... anyone around to help?" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/286 |
| 17:05 | jcamins | wizzyrea: Search.pm requires a hazmat suit. |
| 17:09 | wizzyrea | truf. |
| 17:13 | oleonard | And working with tags requires this: http://images.wikia.com/avp/im[…]5/Powerloader.jpg |
| 17:14 | * wizzyrea | laughs |
| 17:15 | jcamins | lol |
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| 17:17 | Shane-S | What are Street Number and Street Type for...I am not familiar with breaking them out of the "Address" field, but still having them present as well |
| 17:18 | oleonard | I think it's mostly a French library thing Shane-S |
| 17:18 | it doesn't work very well with American-style address output | |
| 17:18 | Shane-S | okay, I will skip those then :P . Trying a batch patron upload, and working on the template |
| 17:19 | * oleonard | wonders why Bugzilla doesn't have a theme that's all peach and teal |
| 17:20 | Shane-S | does order matter for batch patron upload, ie, if I put "sex" on say column 2, versus 20 would it matter? |
| 17:21 | oleonard | I assume so Shane-S. Did you download the starter CSV? |
| 17:22 | Shane-S | I did, but I am cutting fields out, hoping it goes by the header "name" not the order |
| 17:22 | * oleonard | hasn't played around with it much |
| 17:22 | Shane-S | I will find out my answer the hard way then :P |
| 17:25 | * oleonard | remembers he was working on some tags stuff yesterday and wonders whether he should strap on the ole power loader... |
| 17:28 | jcamins | Shane-S: you cannot remove columns. |
| 17:28 | Shane-S: the format has to be *exactly* the same. | |
| 17:30 | Shane-S | hmm..that is a pain to "paste" data into |
| 17:30 | have to do it column by column | |
| 17:31 | jcamins | Shane-S: a script might be your best option. |
| 17:32 | Shane-S | nah, I can do it. Just more time then sorting it down to the columns we will actually use |
| 17:32 | * paul_p | almost finished deploying the 10 sandboxes (7 done...) |
| 17:33 | Shane-S | I might have to look at the import script, maybe I can modify it to be more "smart" and if a non-required column isn't included it NULLS the value for you. |
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| 17:33 | paul_p | RM newsletter writen, will publish it tomorrow |
| 17:33 | jcamins | Shane-S: of course you *can* do it, but a script might be less trouble. |
| 17:33 | paul_p | another very busy week ! |
| 17:34 | bye #koha | |
| 17:34 | cait | bye paul_p |
| 17:35 | Shane-S | hmmm... "OR choose which fields you want to supply from the following list:" |
| 17:35 | I think it is already smart by that line | |
| 17:38 | jcamins | Shane-S: I was under the impression it didn't work. You could try. |
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| 17:44 | mib_qsx0jn | !list |
| 17:44 | oleonard | ? |
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| 17:46 | oleonard | Hi sekjal |
| 17:46 | sekjal | hey, oleonard |
| 17:46 | wahanui | i think oleonard is the master UI designer of koha or an awesome bug wrangler |
| 17:46 | sekjal | hi, wahanui |
| 17:46 | wahanui | hey, sekjal |
| 17:47 | jcamins | sekjal! I bet you would *love* to QA bug 7284. :D |
| 17:47 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 17:49 | sekjal | jcamins: well, my afternoon meeting *was* cancelled |
| 17:49 | jcamins | Good news! You can! :D |
| 17:51 | You should totally do it. Just think how many happy academic libraries there will be. :) | |
| 17:51 | nengard_lunch | need report help with finding patrons without a specific attribute filed in ... anyone around to help? at http://paste.koha-community.org/286 |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | there's also 7001 :P |
| 17:52 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's true, but 7284 is more fun. |
| 17:52 | wizzyrea | but 7001 is... oh bother. |
| 17:53 | oleonard | Hah, Marshall Breeding just retweeted a tweet that was quoting himself. Classy. |
| 17:53 | * sekjal | would love to see some happy academic librarians... |
| 17:55 | jcamins | Okay, time to head to my next client's. |
| 17:57 | * jcamins_away | should be back from there, but regardless, don't let my absence stop you from having fun with authorities and bug 7284. :) |
| 17:57 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 18:03 | sekjal | jcamins: thanks for writing detailed documentation. it's daunting to take on, but once one is in it, it's nice to have a full and clear picture |
| 18:06 | * chris_n | head off for a cold boot |
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| 18:16 | bag | @seen rhcl |
| 18:16 | huginn | bag: rhcl was last seen in #koha 5 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <rhcl> I guess I'm not very territorial, and don't see a problem with occasional collaboration or comparison between projects. |
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| 18:26 | jcamins_away | sekjal: my pleasure. |
| 18:27 | sekjal | jcamins_away: if I was further along with my home cataloging project, I'd be able to put your code through much more of a wringer. Right now, though, I'm bib-less and auth-less |
| 18:28 | scanning the Perl for any obvious code-level issues | |
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| 18:32 | jcamins_away | sekjal: schuster tested it with a pretty large database, and I tested it with... |
| 18:32 | five different datasets. | |
| 18:32 | sekjal | jcamins_away: cool |
| 18:32 | I'll keep reading though the code, looking for possible edge cases and such | |
| 18:33 | jcamins_away | A mixture of LC, SZB-SW, local, other, and what-the-heck-do-you-call-that-oh-my-god-my-eyes. |
| 18:33 | :) | |
| 18:33 | It was not any more broken for the last option than the current functionality. | |
| 18:37 | rangi | awesome III is dead |
| 18:38 | when you are bought by an equity company, thats your death warrant signed | |
| 18:38 | jcamins_away | rangi: what?!? |
| 18:38 | rangi | III just got sold to vulture capitalists |
| 18:39 | http://www.alatechsource.org/b[…]-equity-club.html | |
| 18:41 | Shane-S | hmm using the original template...and import_borrowers.pl isn't reading the header file of the .csv, anywhere I can look for more then the feedback? |
| 18:42 | sekjal | huzzah the bell tolls for III, but is that going to mean more III to Koha migrations? those are a bear |
| 18:43 | jcamins_away | sekjal: we'll get it down to a science. |
| 18:43 | :) | |
| 18:44 | sekjal | jcamins_away: we'll need to do a lot of work on Koha Acquisitions first... the two structures just don't match up |
| 18:45 | and librarians do all kinds of work arounds in III, so even a canonical mapping needs to be double-checked or completely redone if their workflows are adapted | |
| 18:45 | it's doable | |
| 18:45 | but ugh | |
| 18:45 | jcamins_away | sekjal++ # that sounded like volunteering to me! |
| 18:46 | sekjal | well, my library's consortium *is* looking at looking at a new ILS in the next few years.... maybe |
| 18:46 | but we're Aleph now | |
| 18:57 | rangi | they got sold to equity firms too |
| 18:57 | III was the last one left | |
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| 18:58 | rangi | http://blog.bigballofwax.co.nz[…]ics-for-february/ |
| 19:00 | sekjal | rangi: glad to see I'm still doing a significant amount of the QA work |
| 19:01 | Shane-S | Can I disable change your password for Patrons? Also, it was MS Excel that broke the CSV, OpenOffice healed it :P |
| 19:01 | rangi | sekjal: yep, you actually did more in feb than jan |
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| 19:03 | rangi | 37 in jan, 47 in feb .. a good trend :) |
| 19:03 | sekjal | rangi: interesting |
| 19:04 | rangi | 2 days less in the month too |
| 19:04 | actually total numbers are up too | |
| 19:04 | so thats all good | |
| 19:04 | * jcamins_away | signed off more than twice as many bugs in February as in January. |
| 19:05 | sekjal | I wonder how busy March and April will be... |
| 19:06 | * jcamins_away | suspects the number of sign-offs from him will be directly proportional to the amount of frustration the contractors cause.. |
| 19:08 | chris_n | heya rangi |
| 19:10 | rangi | Heya chris_n |
| 19:10 | Jcamins: http://www.angelikafilmcenter.com/ | |
| 19:10 | Near u? | |
| 19:11 | Showing an nz film tomorrow | |
| 19:12 | jcamins_away | Oh, there's the address. |
| 19:12 | Yeah, everthing in Manhattan is nearby, basicall. | |
| 19:13 | rangi | Cool |
| 19:13 | oleonard | Just like everyone in NZ knows everyone else, right? |
| 19:13 | jcamins_away | oleonard: lol. Except that Manhattan really is tiny. |
| 19:13 | rangi | My wife is at the Hilton somewhere near there too |
| 19:14 | jcamins_away | Well, except for the parts at the top of the island, which don't really count. |
| 19:16 | oleonard | Shane-S: Did you find it? The preference is called OpacPasswordChange |
| 19:16 | Shane-S | Didn't look yet, my ADD kicked in and I wanted to populate my cart and see what I can do :P |
| 19:17 | And though I have available item I can place a hold...so I am looking for that setting now | |
| 19:18 | jcamins_away | Shane-S: if you meant "can't place a hold," the problem might be that you don't have circ rules configured. |
| 19:18 | Shane-S | probably |
| 19:19 | I remember that somewhere..and wasn't sure what it was for...but now I see that is what you do as a normal patron...put items on hold so they are available for you when you arrive to check them out | |
| 19:22 | Can I make a branch that can only see its own books and not the main libraries? | |
| 19:23 | An administrator here loans out books, and she thought it would be great to have her own branch for "Staff" Patrons to reserve and checkout books | |
| 19:23 | jcamins_away | Shane-S: not easily. |
| 19:24 | wizzyrea | ooh, I knew I had done a lot but didn't realize it was *that* many |
| 19:24 | Shane-S | so basically they just see all the books, and it just shows that branch having availability? |
| 19:25 | I wasn't even thinking of branches till the principal asked if her books could be stored and checked out with it as well | |
| 19:26 | then I got to thinking, we could do that with DVDs as well, and each room can be a branch and people could search and know who has what DVD and "hold" it | |
| 19:26 | wizzyrea | well you can do that with itypes or ccodes as well |
| 19:26 | cait | perhaps usevlocations? |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | or locations |
| 19:27 | jinx :) | |
| 19:27 | cait | easier :) |
| 19:27 | Shane-S | isn't libraries.branches, locations that same screen? |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | ccode might make sense for the principal's collection. |
| 19:27 | no | |
| 19:27 | we are talking about the location that's in the item record, the one defined by authorized values. | |
| 19:28 | rangi | Woot bug 7284 |
| 19:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:28 | cait | woot! |
| 19:28 | wizzyrea | woot! |
| 19:28 | * wizzyrea | pokes bug 7001 |
| 19:28 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips |
| 19:29 | sekjal | wizzyrea: going to need a short break before tackling QA on a second large feature |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 19:29 | jcamins_away | Yippee! |
| 19:29 | sekjal | but getting those two knocked off the list would go a long way towards making me feel productive |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | ^.^ |
| 19:30 | jcamins_away | sekjal++ # for a herculean QA effort |
| 19:30 | cait | sekjal++ |
| 19:30 | jcamins_away | Ooh, I like the idea of having the "Machine generated authority record" be translatable. |
| 19:31 | Even just a syspref would be an improvement. | |
| 19:31 | sekjal | jcamins++ schuster++ |
| 19:34 | okay, brb, getting coffee | |
| 19:41 | oleonard | Oh, Bug 7636 looks like fun |
| 19:42 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7636 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , error when trying to email cart when opacuserlogin set to don't allow |
| 19:45 | nengard | sorry oleonard :) |
| 19:45 | i say just hide the email button if that preference is set to don't allow | |
| 19:45 | that's the easiest thing to do | |
| 19:45 | i would think | |
| 19:45 | oleonard | I think you're quite right |
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| 19:56 | oleonard | The "recent comments" link should be hidden too, right? Since comments cant be added if you're not logged in? |
| 19:56 | cait | hm but you can look at the comments form others? |
| 19:57 | wizzyrea | this is for sites with opacuserlogin is never allowed though, right |
| 19:57 | oleonard | The only way it would work is if opacuserlogin was on for a while, then turned off |
| 19:58 | ...that seems a fairly unlikely scenario | |
| 19:58 | cait | but woulnd't you just turn off the comments view then? |
| 19:59 | jcamins_away | You could add comments from the staff client, no? |
| 19:59 | Ah. | |
| 20:00 | Never mind then. | |
| 20:00 | oleonard | You can't add comments from the staff client |
| 20:01 | [% IF ( opacuserlogin && reviewson && OpacShowRecentComments ) %] | |
| 20:02 | This is why we need sub-preferences. Turning off opacuserlogin could disable a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense with it turned off (comments, tagging, etc) | |
| 20:09 | Bam! | |
| 20:11 | nengard | oleonard you are right |
| 20:11 | lots of things shouldn't show up if you can't log in | |
| 20:11 | add to that list: add to private list, place holds | |
| 20:12 | oleonard | Where do you see the option to place holds with opacuserlogin disabled? |
| 20:12 | cait | most of them can be switched off separately |
| 20:12 | I have done it | |
| 20:12 | for a project | |
| 20:13 | it can all be done by using the existing system preferences | |
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| 20:20 | rangi | this is due to be launched today |
| 20:20 | Shane-S | does my bug 7615 fix bug 1219 ? |
| 20:20 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7615 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, Signed Off , Give option to use description for homebranch/holding branch in label creator instead of the branchcode |
| 20:20 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1219 enhancement, P2, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , New plugin for MARC21 branch | |
| 20:20 | rangi | http://souphub.org.nz/ |
| 20:21 | jcamins_away | Shane-S: the two don't have anything to do with each other, no |
| 20:21 | ibeardslee | rangi: we threw a couple of retired PCs at them |
| 20:21 | Shane-S | okay, as I saw homebranch in there |
| 20:21 | oleonard | and 1219 is old and should be WONTFIX |
| 20:21 | jcamins_away | Oh, yeah, that's you. :) |
| 20:22 | rangi | ibeardslee: *nod* i figured catalyst would had to have done something for it :) |
| 20:22 | Shane-S | Okay, I was just going through and saw homebranch but didn't understand the scope |
| 20:23 | well down to 8% battery time to go home :P | |
| 20:35 | sekjal | wizzyrea: 7001 no longer applies... but it looks like it's just a DB update issue |
| 20:36 | wizzyrea | yea, that happens every time |
| 20:36 | want me to fix it and resub or... | |
| 20:36 | jcamins_away | If you use git am -3iu /tmp/${WHATEVER} it might fix itself. |
| 20:36 | sekjal | jcamins_away: it did not |
| 20:36 | I'll see if I can resolve it myself | |
| 20:37 | jcamins_away | Ah well. |
| 20:38 | sekjal | yup, easy fix |
| 20:44 | wizzyrea | woot! |
| 20:44 | * wizzyrea | hopes and hopes there hasn't been shifting sand underneath that one |
| 20:46 | oleonard | updatedatabase conflicts are usually easy to fix. I don't think anyone should have to resubmit for that kind of conflict |
| 20:46 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 20:48 | rangi | oleonard: heard of jean shin? |
| 20:48 | oleonard | No |
| 20:48 | rangi | oleonard++ # i agree |
| 20:48 | oleonard: ahh good its not just me then :) | |
| 20:49 | my wife is an art conf in nyc and was all excited about her | |
| 20:49 | oleonard | I'm so out of touch with the art world. My art school self would be sorely disappointed in me. |
| 20:50 | I don't have much patience for it anymore. | |
| 20:50 | rangi | it does take a lot of effort to be up to date |
| 20:50 | wizzyrea | i don't know how hipsters do it! |
| 20:50 | rangi | laurel is now a sole trader, so a registered company essentially, and does her teaching on contract |
| 20:51 | so she can now go to things like this, as tax writeoffs | |
| 20:51 | wizzyrea | niiice |
| 20:51 | oleonard | Looks like some fun stuff: http://www.jeanshin.com/images.htm |
| 20:51 | rangi | if you cant beat the capitalist scum, join them |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | hee |
| 20:56 | sekjal | wizzyrea: was it intentional that the print checkout slip should now show borrowernumber instead of barcode in the "Print Receipt for.." line? |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | it's configurable |
| 20:57 | you can have it do either I think | |
| 20:57 | sekjal | right |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | but no, not strictly intentional afaik |
| 20:57 | sekjal | but just doing a straight upgrade, no customization, that's the only significant difference in how slips render |
| 20:57 | (checkout receipts, anyway) | |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 20:57 | should probably change that eh | |
| 20:58 | to be how it is now | |
| 20:58 | I can do a followup? | |
| 20:58 | have to add transitslip anyway | |
| 20:58 | via followup | |
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| 20:58 | libsysguy | yo |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | hey |
| 20:58 | libsysguy | so I have an ebook that is showing up as checked out |
| 20:58 | but its not in the issues table | |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | old_issues? |
| 20:59 | libsysguy | where else could that info get putted from? |
| 20:59 | wizzyrea | (maybe it's indexing?) |
| 20:59 | and where is it showing as checked out | |
| 20:59 | on the results or on the detail | |
| 20:59 | cait | libsysguy: onloan |
| 20:59 | libsysguy | the opac |
| 20:59 | wahanui | hmmm... the opac is for patrons |
| 20:59 | cait | in items |
| 20:59 | libsysguy | it can get set in items |
| 20:59 | ?? | |
| 20:59 | cait | the duedate is set in items |
| 20:59 | items.onloan - it always was :) used to be boolean, now is a date | |
| 21:00 | and gets indexed by zebra for availability | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | sometimes the indexes get out of whack |
| 21:00 | and you'll see somethign in the results that's checked out, when it's really available | |
| 21:00 | cait | ^^ |
| 21:00 | jcamins_away | Or there's data in the onloan from migration. |
| 21:00 | schuster | give it the interval for rebuild to catch up. |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | usually updating the record in some small way (i like putting a space in the public note) and saving it triggers another zebraqueue index process |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | hmm ok ill give that a shot |
| 21:01 | wizzyrea | and then it's all happy again |
| 21:01 | jcamins_away | schuster: I don't know if you saw, but sekjal passed the patch for bug 7284. :) |
| 21:01 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Passed QA , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | so onload should be set to a 0-ed out timestamp? |
| 21:01 | oleonard | jcamins_away: You need a new hobby now! |
| 21:01 | libsysguy | onloan** |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | libsysguy? |
| 21:02 | wahanui | libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 21:02 | libsysguy | hehe |
| 21:02 | sekjal | wizzyrea: it looks like it's not actually the content of the slip, just the page header, which likely wouldn't show on most receipt printers. |
| 21:02 | so I think it's a non-issue | |
| 21:02 | wizzyrea | oh cool. |
| 21:02 | jcamins_away | oleonard: as soon as it's pushed, I'll start searching couch cushions for funding for the other authority-related projects I proposed. |
| 21:02 | * wizzyrea | waits for the shakedown |
| 21:03 | libsysguy | jcamins_away is in the authority mafia |
| 21:04 | jcamins_away | "That's a real nice authority record you got there. Real nice. Would be a shame if something happened to it." |
| 21:04 | libsysguy | ^^ LOL |
| 21:04 | omg is that a headless authority in my bed | |
| 21:05 | or perhaps that should have read "omg is that an authority header in my bed" | |
| 21:05 | eythian_bucklame | *leader |
| 21:06 | jcamins_away | eythian_bucklame: we spend too much time around MARC. I was thinking that, too. |
| 21:06 | eythian_bucklame | far, far too much time |
| 21:07 | * jcamins_away | is sure there is a "take me to your leader" joke in here, but can't quite find it. |
| 21:07 | oleonard | Oooh, quitting time! |
| 21:07 | eythian_bucklame | quitter |
| 21:07 | oleonard | Bye #koha. All-day meeting tomorrow, so, uh, weep for me. |
| 21:08 | eythian_bucklame | weekend tomorrow! |
| 21:08 | fly back home this evening. | |
| 21:08 | jcamins_away | Meeting with a contractor tomorrow. |
| 21:08 | Possibly all-day. | |
| 21:08 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 21:08 | eythian_bucklame | hi cait |
| 21:09 | libsysguy | ok si its not in issues, old_issues, onloan is set to 0 date...i ran an index after adding something to the public not...still says its checked out |
| 21:09 | im not sure what im missing | |
| 21:09 | eythian_bucklame | make onloan set to null? |
| 21:09 | jcamins_away | libsysguy: it shows up as checked out on detail and results, or just results? |
| 21:10 | libsysguy | just the results |
| 21:11 | jcamins_away | And it displays properly on the staff client |
| 21:11 | *? | |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | and on the detail? |
| 21:11 | eythian_bucklame | sounds like a zebra reindex needing issue |
| 21:11 | libsysguy | if I go to look at the item in the checkout status i see "not checked out" |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | yea, it still sounds like an index issue to me |
| 21:11 | libsysguy | hmm |
| 21:11 | wizzyrea | eythian probably has it, it should be null |
| 21:11 | items.onloan | |
| 21:11 | but | |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | but I don't wanna do a full index :'( |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | what you should d |
| 21:12 | no | |
| 21:12 | just go in | |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | it take sooo longgg :p |
| 21:12 | wizzyrea | edit the record |
| 21:12 | save it | |
| 21:12 | wait for the zebraqueue | |
| 21:12 | or check it out and back in | |
| 21:12 | which would do the same thing | |
| 21:12 | more or less. | |
| 21:12 | jcamins_away | ^^ that's what I'd do. |
| 21:12 | libsysguy | fixed |
| 21:13 | set to null and indexed | |
| 21:13 | thanks :) | |
| 21:13 | jcamins_away | And, with that thought, I think it's time to call it a day. |
| 21:13 | Good night, #koh. | |
| 21:13 | #koha | |
| 21:13 | Wish me luck with the contractor tomorrow. | |
| 21:13 | eythian_bucklame | cya |
| 21:15 | wizzyrea | gl jcamins_away |
| 21:17 | rangi | libsysguy: there is a bug that im not sure what status its in, that allows partial reindexes |
| 21:17 | ie you can give it a range of biblionumbers | |
| 21:17 | wizzyrea | oh yea |
| 21:17 | rangi | you might want to find and test it |
| 21:17 | itw ould be super helpful in situations like this | |
| 21:18 | run an update query limit 1000 | |
| 21:18 | then then just reindex those, rinse and repeat | |
| 21:18 | helps do mass changes less disruptively | |
| 21:19 | wizzyrea | Bug 7246 |
| 21:19 | huginn | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7246 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , rebuild_zebra.pl --limit option to allow partial re-indexing |
| 21:21 | sekjal | uhoh. found a problem with 7001 |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | noooo |
| 21:22 | sekjal | it's not mod_perl (and thus presumably Plack) compliant |
| 21:22 | wizzyrea | gurg. |
| 21:22 | sekjal | sub getletter modifies a variable declared outside itself |
| 21:23 | there's no in-line documentation around it, either, so I'm not entirely sure why it's doing this | |
| 21:23 | wizzyrea | :/ |
| 21:24 | bag | huh? mod_perl standards |
| 21:24 | I missed that memo | |
| 21:25 | but that would be sweet | |
| 21:25 | sekjal | mod_perl, or any tool other speedup that precompiles entire scripts as subroutines are going to run into a problem with this |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | does it pre-exist 7001? |
| 21:26 | sekjal | no |
| 21:26 | introduced by | |
| 21:26 | wizzyrea | boo. |
| 21:26 | bag | yeah no I'm just saying - that mod_perl would be sweet |
| 21:27 | sekjal | I'll write it up in the bug report, and maybe Srdjan can explain what that particular bit of code is doing. It may be worth the trouble down the line for the immediate gains, if reimplementing it would be hard |
| 21:27 | wizzyrea | i've no doubt that he'll fix it post haste if he can. :) |
| 21:28 | sekjal | in other news, love the variable name $want_librarian in GetPreparedLetter(). |
| 21:28 | yes, always! | |
| 21:29 | eythian_bucklame | huh, srdjan should know better: the other big perl project he works on is mod_perl |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:29 | sekjal | eythian_bucklame: perhaps he's got more up-to-date information than I. |
| 21:29 | but from what I know, that set up is problematic | |
| 21:29 | eythian_bucklame | it's possible, I'm not sure. Could it be something that doesn't change? |
| 21:30 | that's the only reason I could think of off the top of my head. | |
| 21:35 | sekjal | it may be... it looks like it could be a hash of a hash of a hash that stores everything in it's own little cubby |
| 21:35 | wizzyrea | "perl cubbies" |
| 21:38 | eythian_bucklame | hmm, that's still something that could grow problematically. |
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| 21:50 | sekjal | notes made. |
| 21:50 | rangi | @later tell maximep http://accessconference.ca/201[…]-dates-announced/ |
| 21:50 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:50 | sekjal | now it's time for me to wrap up my day here and trundle on over to the bus. got to get some food and caffeine going on before coming back to work at 10pm tonight |
| 21:50 | rangi | @later tell ebegin http://accessconference.ca/201[…]-dates-announced/ |
| 21:50 | huginn | rangi: The operation succeeded. |
| 21:53 | sekjal | good <<localtime>>, #koha! |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | you're working at 10pm tonight?! |
| 21:53 | later sekjal | |
| 21:53 | sekjal | wizzyrea: yeah, 10pm to 2am |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | ewww |
| 21:53 | syschange? | |
| 21:53 | sekjal | library's Get Your Game On! event |
| 21:53 | wizzyrea | oh, so "work" ;) |
| 21:53 | rangi | ahh |
| 21:53 | i used to get my game on, but then i took an arrow to the knee | |
| 21:54 | sekjal | trying to keep the students out of the bars on Thursday night |
| 21:54 | cait | lol |
| 21:54 | * wizzyrea | giggles at skyrim jokes |
| 21:54 | sekjal | night, all |
| 21:58 | wizzyrea | ok |
| 21:58 | I have a bit of a stumper. Well, it's a stumper for me | |
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| 22:24 | * jcamins_away | has one too. |
| 22:24 | jcamins_away | wth was wrong with "dumb" phones that worked, that we needed to switch to "smart" phones that don't? |
| 22:24 | Space_Librarian | that is one of life's big mysteries |
| 22:24 | wizzyrea | hah |
| 22:25 | I just realized that I never finished my stumper | |
| 22:25 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: what was your stumper? |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | so I'm looking to get a report |
| 22:25 | hahaha | |
| 22:25 | oh. | |
| 22:25 | right, a report that lists patron name + all of their lost items + what they owe | |
| 22:25 | this sounds easy | |
| 22:26 | but I keep getting every item that is lost that the patron has checked out | |
| 22:26 | so say, this person checked out jane eyre | |
| 22:26 | but they didn't lose it, another patron did | |
| 22:26 | I get those. | |
| 22:27 | pastebot | "wizzyrea" at 24.124.17.146 pasted "my stumper, my stumper, my lovely lady stumper" (11 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/288 |
| 22:29 | jcamins_away | Join accountlines to borrowernumber. |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | see I knew I was doing something dumb. |
| 22:32 | jcamins_away | Why didn't I think of that... |
| 22:32 | Software error? Remove and replace the battery! | |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | ?! |
| 22:32 | Space_Librarian | lol. |
| 22:32 | wizzyrea | oh, on your smart phone. |
| 22:32 | Space_Librarian | Which smartphone is giving you grief? |
| 22:32 | jcamins_away | HTC Incredible. |
| 22:33 | Let's see... did that fix it? | |
| 22:33 | Space_Librarian | HTC's are usually pretty good |
| 22:33 | jcamins_away | That's what I've been told. |
| 22:34 | wizzyrea | also, even iphones do nonsense like that |
| 22:34 | Space_Librarian | Wait - is it running ice cream sandwich or gingerbread? |
| 22:35 | jcamins_away | wizzyrea: I'd expect it from an iPhone. |
| 22:35 | Space_Librarian: I don't know, it's running whatever version of Android it updated to. | |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | mine runs gingerbread and it's alright |
| 22:35 | jcamins_away | That did fix it, BTW. |
| 22:35 | Space_Librarian | which may be ice cream sandwich and it is a little buggy |
| 22:35 | wizzyrea | but I had to replace the UI, samsung's UI made me feel itchy. |
| 22:35 | jcamins_away | That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. |
| 22:36 | Pull the battery for a software error. | |
| 22:36 | * Space_Librarian | is still waiting for hers to upgrade to ice cream sandwich |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea | dunno, you'd reboot a PC, which is basically what you've got |
| 22:36 | a PC in your pocket. | |
| 22:36 | jcamins_away | Why don't you just, I don't know, *turn off* when I choose the "turn off" button. |
| 22:36 | wizzyrea: but when I choose "shut down" on my computer, I expect it to do that. | |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | but it doesn't always :) |
| 22:37 | * wizzyrea | argues |
| 22:37 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 22:37 | You have a point there. | |
| 22:37 | But we're not talking about a locked up phone. | |
| 22:37 | We're talking about a phone that shuts off and then takes fifteen minutes to turn on very happily. | |
| 22:38 | Android version 2.3.4. | |
| 22:38 | And this problem goes back at least 1.5 years. | |
| 22:38 | wizzyrea | O.o that's a bit extreme |
| 22:41 | jcamins_away | Did the report work with the revised join? |
| 22:42 | * wizzyrea | was waiting for it to run |
| 22:42 | wizzyrea | let me check |
| 22:48 | no I don't think that worked | |
| 22:55 | hm no, gonna have to revisit that tomorrow | |
| 23:05 | Space_Librarian | dearest wise and venerable denziens of koha. riddle me this: Where do I switch on the holds placed email? |
| 23:05 | (before I break something again?) | |
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| 23:10 | * Space_Librarian | re-fixes the tools area again |
| 23:33 | Space_Librarian | @dice 1d20 |
| 23:33 | huginn | Space_Librarian: 5 |
| 23:33 | * Space_Librarian | breaks the admin area again... |
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