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| 00:59 | Waylon | hiya all! question.... koha is set up to use a local sendmail server... but my server admin thinks the ideal is to get koha to use our mail service provided by googlemail... how do i do that? |
| 00:59 | how do i get koha sending mail via a remote smtp? | |
| 02:00 | eythian | Waylon: the best way is to make the local sendmail server relay via your google mail service |
| 02:01 | Waylon | eythian, how do i do that? |
| 02:02 | eythian | that depends, are you actually using sendmail (or are you using postfix or exim or something?) |
| 02:05 | Waylon | postfix and dovecot are running... im guessing postfix. |
| 02:07 | eythian | yeah, postfix |
| 02:07 | I'll look up the config details | |
| 02:08 | http://braiden.org/?p=15 <-- Waylon | |
| 02:09 | "postfix smarthost relay gmail" are the search terms I used in case you need more info | |
| 02:14 | Waylon | great... my boss is now looking at using Open Journal Systems instead of koha, |
| 02:14 | great, being sarcasm of course. | |
| 02:16 | ah ... damn.. its in php. | |
| 02:18 | eythian | Keep in mind that research has shown that PHP causes brain tumors in rats and PHP developers. |
| 02:19 | it looks to me that OJS does a different task to Koha | |
| 02:23 | Waylon | yeah.. mandumah.com is a digital library archive of journals. |
| 02:24 | eythian | ah right |
| 02:25 | Waylon | so.... instead of upgrading koha and re-modifying it, i think they might go to this and modify that instead... |
| 02:25 | will mean i won't have any work. | |
| 02:25 | eythian | bugger :/ |
| 02:26 | Waylon | Yeah.. will have to advertise for part time work on Koha. At least ill probably be working on current koha... if someone picks me up. |
| 02:26 | eythian | Waylon: where are you based? |
| 02:26 | Waylon | working on ancient koha... was difficult. #koha couldn't really help much... and yeah... Im in New Zealand. |
| 02:26 | Palmerston north. | |
| 02:29 | eythian | ah right. Can't think of many Koha libraries around that way unfortunately. |
| 02:29 | Waylon | oh... can work remotely. |
| 02:29 | anyway.. PHP... that bad? | |
| 02:29 | eythian | I'm not a fan. I've had to use it before, and much prefer Perl. |
| 02:31 | I find it strange that the function to give you the list of what a borrower has borrowers is called GetPendingIssues...there doesn't seem to be anything pending about them. | |
| 02:32 | Waylon | can koha organize journals into journals, volumes, issues then articles? |
| 02:33 | how? | |
| 02:33 | eythian | Waylon: yeah, I think that's what analytics does |
| 02:33 | I'd ask jcamins_away about that, he knows the most. | |
| 02:33 | Waylon | right now, each article is its own biblio record. |
| 02:34 | so can't really browse along the journals like OJS says it can do. | |
| 02:34 | eythian | I think it's only really doable in 3.4 and above, 3.6 preferred. |
| 02:35 | Waylon | but it is doable? |
| 02:35 | eythian | I think so, yeah |
| 02:35 | I'm not really an expert in it | |
| 02:37 | Waylon | right. but jcamins_away is away... so guess i have to wait. |
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| 02:43 | Waylon | hello wizzyrea ? |
| 03:25 | jcamins_away | One moment. |
| 03:26 | * jcamins_away | is here. |
| 03:26 | jcamins_away | Waylon: OJS and Koha serve *completely* different purposes. |
| 03:27 | If Koha is mostly meeting their needs, OJS is very unlikely to. | |
| 03:27 | Likewise, if they're switching to a publishing model, Koha is probably the wrong package. | |
| 03:28 | * eythian | just had a lot of trouble realising that Date::ICal and Data::ICal are actually two quite different things. |
| 03:29 | jcamins_away | eythian: what's the difference? |
| 03:29 | Oh, never mind. | |
| 03:29 | eythian | yeah, that was my problem :) |
| 03:30 | * jcamins_away | is trying to think of a use case where OJS and Koha might overlap. |
| 03:33 | can't do it. | |
| 03:33 | jcamins_away | Waylon: around? |
| 03:34 | * jcamins_away | eyes the pull-out couch sleepily. |
| 03:39 | jcamins_away | Waylon: even with 3.6 there is no browse functionality with analytics. Or with anything else, really. |
| 03:42 | * jcamins_away | is going to sleep. |
| 03:42 | jcamins_away | Good night. |
| 03:42 | Waylon: with DOM indexing one could conceivably add analytics browsing. ByWater and Equinox are involved in a DOM indexing project, so hopefully we'll see a start on that sometime soon. | |
| 03:42 | * jcamins_away | really leaves now. |
| 04:04 | wizzyrea | oh hi? |
| 04:04 | * wahanui | waves |
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| 06:30 | cait | good morning #koha |
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| 07:45 | cait | morgen mbalmer |
| 07:45 | mbalmer | hi cait! |
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| 10:12 | Viktor-sweden | Hi! If anyone is still on the computer :) |
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| 10:19 | Viktor-sweden | Some kind of API for sending order data to vendors? |
| 10:22 | Or is it possible to extract data like ISBN, quantity etc from the acquisitions module from Koha and use in a vendor-specific standalone script? | |
| 10:44 | cait | Viktor-sweden: Hi Viktor-sweden |
| 10:44 | you can print orders as PDF, currently there is no EDIFACT support - if you meant that by API | |
| 10:45 | you can extract all data from all modules using custom reports and sql | |
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| 11:02 | sheikh303 | hello everyone |
| 11:04 | can anyone tell me. how can i create a simple page contact us/about us page | |
| 11:39 | magnus_afk | tjänare Viktor-sweden and cait and #koha! |
| 11:40 | cait | hi magnus_afk |
| 11:40 | magnus_afk | sheikh303: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS |
| 11:54 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 11:54 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 2.0°C (12:20 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
| 11:54 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 11:54 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -8.8°C (12:54 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 11:54 | cait | hmpf. |
| 11:55 | magnuse | ~10 degrees difference... |
| 11:55 | cait | yeah |
| 11:55 | moving to norway wins points every day... | |
| 11:56 | Viktor-sweden | Thanks Cait! |
| 11:56 | cait | Viktor-sweden: I forgot, you can also export ordres in csv |
| 11:56 | Viktor-sweden | Ah, excellent! |
| 11:56 | cait | and you are welcome |
| 11:56 | :) | |
| 11:57 | Viktor-sweden | Sorry it took so long. Went out for lunch and forgot to mention it :/ |
| 11:57 | cait | it's ok - np |
| 11:57 | Viktor-sweden | But CSV should be very useful. |
| 11:57 | cait | my answer came a bit late, was not sure you were still around |
| 11:58 | you can also get csv from reports, I think there are lots of ways to get the data out | |
| 11:58 | Viktor-sweden | If we would go ahead and create something that post an order to a webshop. |
| 11:58 | magnuse | yeah, exporting reports as csv is very flexible! |
| 11:59 | Viktor-sweden | Still EDIFACT or some standard XML-based protocol would be great if someone were to implement. But I'd say Koha is still very competent on acquisitions anyhow. |
| 11:59 | And hi magnuse :) | |
| 12:00 | magnuse | tjänare Viktor-sweden |
| 12:00 | :-) | |
| 12:00 | Viktor-sweden | And hi huginn' |
| 12:01 | cait | ah, be warned |
| 12:01 | huginn is our bot :) | |
| 12:01 | or one of them - wahanui is the other | |
| 12:01 | @marc 245 | |
| 12:01 | huginn` | cait: The title and statement of responsibility area of the bibliographic description of a work. [a,b,c,f,g,h,k,n,p,s,6,8] |
| 12:01 | Viktor-sweden | Oh I see :) Only knew about logbot. |
| 12:02 | cait | There is some code for EDIFACT - but I think it's still in development |
| 12:02 | not ready for testing yet | |
| 12:02 | magnuse | Viktor-sweden: there's bug 2443 - but i'm far from certain what the status of that is |
| 12:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2443 enhancement, P3, ---, mjr, NEW , Acquisitions by EDIFACT |
| 12:02 | magnuse | ah, great minds... ;-) |
| 12:03 | Waylon | hello all! |
| 12:03 | magnuse | kia ora Waylon |
| 12:03 | Waylon | can koha organize journals into journals, volumes, issues then articles, to be browsable? |
| 12:04 | magnuse | Viktor-sweden: slef would be the one who would know about edifact, but he's probably not around now |
| 12:04 | cait | Waylon: hmm not an easy queston |
| 12:05 | Waylon: if you are using the seirals module, you can have serials with bound volumes as items and issues from the subscription | |
| 12:05 | but volumes and issues will be on the same level | |
| 12:05 | magnuse | Waylon: i guess you could catalogue articles and link to full text elsewhere |
| 12:05 | Viktor-sweden | magnuse Ah, ok. |
| 12:06 | Waylon | the full text is in pdf files.. to be downloaded |
| 12:06 | cait | Waylon: yes, what magnuse said, you can always catalog links, and there are functions for analytics |
| 12:06 | and ways to link them and make those link appear in the catalog | |
| 12:06 | Waylon | done that. |
| 12:06 | but currently, all articles are a biblio each. | |
| 12:06 | cait | you currently can not upload pdf files into koha directly, you would have to store them somewhere and link to them |
| 12:07 | Waylon | oh? my boss had that coded in. |
| 12:07 | magnuse | and i think you would have to have 1 biblio = 1 article, and link them to issues through the analytics stuff that i don't really know |
| 12:08 | Waylon | this analytics stuff is 3.4-3.6? |
| 12:08 | cait | 3.6 |
| 12:08 | in 3.4 you can link using $w subfields | |
| 12:08 | in 3.6 there is another implementation called EasyAnayltics that works differently | |
| 12:08 | Viktor-sweden | We are thinking about syncing Koha to a master database by OAI.-MPH. We would then order at the vendors e-shop who talks to the master database (a national resource) who then syncs the MARC-data to us. |
| 12:09 | cait | it also includes items somehow, but I can't really explain it |
| 12:09 | jcamins_away is a good source for easyanalytics | |
| 12:09 | Viktor-sweden | In that scenario: would acquisitions mostly be useful as a tool to follow up on the budget? |
| 12:10 | magnuse | Viktor-sweden: i think it sounds like it, yes |
| 12:10 | Waylon | when will jcamins_away be not away? |
| 12:10 | usually? | |
| 12:10 | magnuse | but maybe also for chekcing that you're actually getting what you ordered? |
| 12:10 | cait | Waylon: he is in new york |
| 12:11 | Viktor-sweden | magnuse True! |
| 12:11 | Keeping track of what's been ordered is quite useful. | |
| 12:11 | (can't contribute with serials - sorry. But listening and learning) | |
| 12:12 | Waylon | so... when, is new your's waking hours? |
| 12:14 | magnuse | Waylon: hard to tell on sunday ;-) |
| 12:14 | Viktor-sweden | :) |
| 12:15 | Waylon | ah. good point. |
| 12:16 | cait | Waylon: he is around often, or you can try and write a mail on the list |
| 12:16 | magnuse | brb |
| 12:18 | back | |
| 12:18 | Viktor-sweden | Going away for a while to finish of some e-mails to relevant bosses - not sure if the mibbit-widget supports chaning names/status. But it's been nice to have a first chat! And thanks again for the help. |
| 12:19 | Popping in again if e-mailing is quick :) | |
| 12:19 | cait | have a nice sunday Viktor-sweden |
| 12:19 | magnuse | have fun Viktor-sweden! |
| 12:19 | i think you can do "/nick somethingelse" on mibbit | |
| 12:20 | but i also think you get kicked out if you are inactive for a while... | |
| 12:20 | Viktor-away | Sweet :) |
| 12:21 | magnuse | yay! |
| 14:07 | jcamins_away | kf: why are you at work on a Sunday? |
| 14:10 | kf | oh |
| 14:10 | cait | thx |
| 14:10 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 14:10 | cait | although it feels like work with all the distance study stuff |
| 14:20 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 14:20 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -6.9°C (3:19 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.41 in 1029.7 hPa (Steady). |
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| 16:13 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 16:13 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 0.0°C (4:50 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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| 18:32 | cait | confusing_bug_numbers-- |
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| 18:48 | rangi | Morning from the bus |
| 18:48 | magnuse | kia ora rangi! |
| 18:48 | jcamins | Morning. |
| 18:48 | magnuse | hiya jcamins |
| 18:50 | cait | morning rangi |
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| 18:53 | * magnuse | wanders off to make more "knäckebrot" |
| 18:55 | * cait | hands rangi a cinnamon roll |
| 18:57 | * jcamins | tests 7432. |
| 18:57 | rangi | Mm yum |
| 18:57 | Yay jcamins | |
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| 18:58 | cait | oh |
| 18:58 | magnuse | bug 7432 |
| 18:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7432 critical, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Changing frameworks should refresh cache |
| 18:58 | * cait | hands jcamins a cinnamon roll |
| 18:58 | magnuse | jcamins++ |
| 18:58 | jcamins | cait: if you're already testing it, we can both sign off. :) |
| 18:58 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 18:58 | jcamins | Well, assuming it works, which I'll know in... 7 minutes. |
| 18:58 | cait | ah, i am about to correct my sign-off on 7289 |
| 18:59 | I saved the 'waiting' for when I get tird | |
| 18:59 | rangi | I see eythian worked during the weekend too |
| 19:02 | And indradg has done some cool things with gnome and the packages | |
| 19:02 | jcamins | Yeah, I saw that on Facebook. |
| 19:02 | rangi | Yup |
| 19:02 | jcamins | rangi: so was the consensus that we should use SetEnv for memcached? |
| 19:03 | rangi | I think both |
| 19:03 | * jcamins | bangs his head on the table. |
| 19:03 | jcamins | What was the point of delaying all those patches then? |
| 19:03 | rangi | Env for variables but still allow the syspref to turn it off |
| 19:03 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:04 | That makes sense. | |
| 19:04 | rangi | Oh that's just my consensus |
| 19:04 | :) | |
| 19:04 | jcamins | So the follow up to 6971 still needs sign off? |
| 19:04 | cait | perhaps add your consensus to the bug |
| 19:04 | rangi | Not sure what the lords decided |
| 19:04 | cait | so we can +1 it :) |
| 19:04 | jcamins | +1 |
| 19:04 | cait | um I menat the wiki |
| 19:04 | jcamins | Oh, on the bug. |
| 19:04 | Oh, on the wiki. | |
| 19:04 | wahanui | on the wiki is more information about the packages |
| 19:05 | rangi | Yep if I get a chance today I will |
| 19:08 | Syspref allows hosted ppl to control it which is important | |
| 19:08 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 19:08 | It works! | |
| 19:08 | rangi | Yay |
| 19:09 | My stop bb after #hrmmbreakfast | |
| 19:09 | cait | I never had any doubts it would |
| 19:09 | have fun :) | |
| 19:09 | jcamins | Neither did I. |
| 19:11 | cait | ok |
| 19:11 | I finally fixed the signoff | |
| 19:13 | working on 7514 now | |
| 19:13 | magnuse | bug 7514 |
| 19:13 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Choose OPAC language with URL parameter |
| 19:14 | jcamins | That should be set to needs signoff. |
| 19:14 | * jcamins | will test bug 7511. |
| 19:14 | magnuse | yay, that sounds good! |
| 19:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7511 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Caching Templates |
| 19:14 | magnuse | yay! |
| 19:15 | cait | hehe |
| 19:15 | we have a norwegian cheerleader ;) | |
| 19:15 | * magnuse | cheers his heroes on in their quest |
| 19:15 | * cait | giggles at the picture that appeared in her head |
| 19:15 | * magnuse | blushes |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Signing things off is easier than anything else I could do. |
| 19:16 | cait | and drink your tea? |
| 19:16 | * jcamins | has a number of writing projects, but it's too hard to focus on those. |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Yes, I'm drinking tea. |
| 19:17 | cait | good |
| 19:20 | * magnuse | goes back to baking |
| 19:22 | * jcamins | does weird things with Apache. |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Wow! |
| 19:26 | Bug 7511 is very impressie. | |
| 19:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7511 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Caching Templates |
| 19:26 | jcamins | *impressive |
| 19:31 | * jcamins | is doing lots of signing off this year. |
| 19:31 | jcamins | I have to find out from rangi how to get a list of all the bugs I've signed off on. |
| 19:32 | * jcamins | tests 6193. |
| 19:34 | cait | :) |
| 19:34 | you are fast | |
| 19:34 | signing off on bug 7514 now | |
| 19:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7514 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , Choose OPAC language with URL parameter |
| 19:34 | cait | works nicely |
| 19:34 | jcamins | Hm. |
| 19:35 | magnuse | cait++ jcamins++ |
| 19:36 | jcamins | Okay, so much for testing 6193. |
| 19:37 | I can't figure out how to. | |
| 19:37 | cait | bug 6193 |
| 19:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6193 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, tomascohen, In Discussion , Use memcached cache koha-conf.xml configuration variables |
| 19:37 | cait | hm I am not sure |
| 19:38 | jcamins | I think there's an additional patch missing. |
| 19:38 | Maybe. | |
| 19:43 | cait | going to look at 7080 |
| 19:45 | jcamins: if you get really bored... i did a patch for serials that awaits sign-off... | |
| 19:46 | jcamins | cait: which bug? |
| 19:46 | cait | 7521 |
| 19:46 | jcamins | bug 7521 |
| 19:46 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7521 normal, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Cannot receive serials without full serials permissions |
| 19:47 | * jcamins | can do that. |
| 19:49 | cait | yay :) |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Yikes! That's ugly! |
| 19:50 | (the bug) | |
| 19:50 | cait | yeah |
| 19:50 | permissions are | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | And the patch works. |
| 19:50 | cait | I want to build a follow up to make routing work better on that patch next |
| 19:51 | jcamins | magnuse: do you have a test dataset for NORMARC? |
| 19:52 | Preferably a small one? | |
| 19:52 | cait | which bug are you looking at? |
| 19:52 | jcamins | Bug 7489. |
| 19:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT |
| 19:53 | jcamins | I could test it with a MARC21 dataset, and it'd probably work, but I feel like I should be using NORMARC to test NORMARC features. |
| 19:54 | cait | hm true |
| 19:54 | jcamins | Now testing bug 7530 if I can figure out how. |
| 19:54 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7530 minor, P5 - low, ---, gcollum, Needs Signoff , Missing <li> tag in circ-menu.inc |
| 19:54 | cait | you could add a few fast adds |
| 19:54 | for that bug | |
| 19:54 | owen's patch looks good too | |
| 19:54 | signing off :) | |
| 19:55 | jcamins | Hm. True. |
| 19:57 | cait | looking at 5280 next |
| 19:57 | jcamins | bug 5280 |
| 19:57 | wahanui | rumour has it bug 5280 is cool, finishing testing it for sign off |
| 19:57 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered |
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| 19:57 | cait | hi Space_Librarian |
| 19:57 | Space_Librarian | o/ |
| 19:57 | cait | oh |
| 19:57 | Space_Librarian | Hi cait! |
| 19:57 | cait | it already is signed off |
| 19:57 | moving to next...hm. | |
| 20:00 | jcamins | Okay, I can't tell if it works or not. |
| 20:00 | cait | the missing li? |
| 20:01 | jcamins | Right. |
| 20:01 | And since it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, I'm not inclined to spend a huge amount of time trying to figure out what it's supposed to do. | |
| 20:03 | cait | ah |
| 20:03 | you can just do what the patch suggests | |
| 20:03 | w3c xhtml validator | |
| 20:03 | you can copy paste the html code on that page and let it check it | |
| 20:03 | before and after the patch | |
| 20:03 | jcamins | Yes, I did that, and there were so many errors I couldn't tell whether it had behaved appropriately or not. |
| 20:04 | cait | oh |
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| 20:06 | cait | lots of bugs from my list are already signed off now :) |
| 20:07 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:07 | cait | yeah, some people were really busy :) |
| 20:07 | wizzyrea++ jcamins++ oleonard++ | |
| 20:08 | kathryn | morning all : ) |
| 20:09 | cait | hi kathryn :) |
| 20:10 | Space_Librarian | morning kathryn - did you enjoy Melbourne? |
| 20:10 | kathryn | hi Space_Librarian, yes I did! |
| 20:11 | such a nice city | |
| 20:11 | we were pretty busy talking with people at Vala2012 | |
| 20:11 | from people who had never heard of koha, to koha librarians we didn't know were out there : ) | |
| 20:11 | cait | :) |
| 20:12 | jcamins: testing 4969 - are you still testing and drinking your tea? | |
| 20:12 | jcamins | bug 4969 |
| 20:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4969 minor, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Patch doesn't apply , Vendors can not be deleted / show only active vendors |
| 20:12 | * jcamins | didn't try that one. |
| 20:13 | cait | it didn't apply for owen |
| 20:13 | but did for me | |
| 20:14 | jcamins | Applied fine for me |
| 20:14 | cait | yep for me too |
| 20:14 | I wonder if it catches deleting vendors with subscriptions | |
| 20:14 | testing that now | |
| 20:20 | failed qa | |
| 20:21 | rangi | back |
| 20:21 | cait | wb rangi |
| 20:21 | rangi | thanks |
| 20:21 | magnuse | jcamins: normarc records should not be necessary for bug 7489 - just check that any old icons are showing up before the patch and hidden after the patch (in line with twhat the syspref says it should do) |
| 20:22 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT |
| 20:22 | jcamins | magnuse: okay. :) |
| 20:23 | * jcamins | is marking old patches "Does not apply." |
| 20:24 | jcamins | And, rarely, needs sign off. |
| 20:24 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 20:25 | ok, checking on a possible bug one of our libraries reported now | |
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| 20:27 | cait | cool, it's fixed on master |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 20:29 | cait | jcamins: are you working on 7489? |
| 20:29 | jcamins | bug 7489 |
| 20:29 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7489 normal, P5 - low, ---, magnus, Needs Signoff , Implement DisplayOPACiconsXSLT for NORMARC XSLT |
| 20:29 | jcamins | I am not, no. |
| 20:29 | cait | ah ok |
| 20:29 | I will pick it up :) | |
| 20:29 | * magnuse | wanders off and wishes everyone happy hunting |
| 20:29 | magnuse | cait++ |
| 20:29 | cait | bye magnus_afk :) |
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| 20:33 | jcamins | Okay, time to make pizza. |
| 20:33 | Bye. | |
| 20:33 | cait | :) |
| 20:33 | yum | |
| 20:33 | bye jcamins | |
| 20:34 | jcamins | Just another 74 bugs with patches that are marked NEW, ASSIGNED, or REOPENED. |
| 20:34 | cait | oh |
| 20:34 | which search are you using? | |
| 20:35 | jcamins | I searched for bugs with those statuses and Attachment is patch = 1 and Attachment is obsolete != 1. |
| 20:36 | cait | oh |
| 20:36 | can you sav eit perhaps? | |
| 20:36 | and share? | |
| 20:36 | jcamins | I saved it, but I'm not sure how to share it. |
| 20:36 | cait | go to preferences |
| 20:36 | jcamins | Ah, figured it out. :) |
| 20:36 | cait | oki :) |
| 20:36 | jcamins | "Patches not yet marked" |
| 20:37 | cait | thx :) |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Next one to check is 3317. |
| 20:37 | Okay, really making pizza now. :) | |
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| 21:29 | eythian | hi |
| 21:29 | wahanui | bonjour, eythian |
| 21:29 | cait | hi eythian |
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| 21:35 | jcamins_away | More than a third through. |
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| 21:36 | pastebot | "rangi" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "top 6 sign offers for feb" (9 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/253 |
| 21:37 | jcamins_away | Wow! |
| 21:39 | No wonder I felt like I was spending a lot of time signing off on things. | |
| 21:39 | eythian | way to make everyone else look bad, jcamins_away ;) |
| 21:39 | rangi | heh |
| 21:39 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJDMaAb1gsc | |
| 21:40 | cait | :) |
| 21:40 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 21:40 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.4°C (10:40 PM CET on February 12, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.44 in 1030.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:41 | jcamins_away | eythian: you still have time to beat me! |
| 21:43 | Space_Librarian | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 21:43 | huginn` | Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 16.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 13, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:47 | jcamins_away | eythian: bug 7362. |
| 21:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7362 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, ASSIGNED , Allow searching by item number as a fallback |
| 21:48 | jcamins_away | eythian: never mind, it doesn't apply anyway. |
| 21:49 | cait | jcamins_away: I get dizzy watching you |
| 21:49 | :) | |
| 21:49 | jcamins_away | cait: I need something easy. |
| 21:49 | cait | to test? |
| 21:49 | jcamins_away | No, to do. |
| 21:50 | So I'm doing this. | |
| 21:50 | cait | ah |
| 21:51 | and drink your tea! | |
| 21:51 | eythian | jcamins_away: I did some packaging updates yesterday that you might have a look at, one of them was for a bug you reported :) |
| 21:52 | bug 7409 and bug 7532 | |
| 21:52 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7409 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package |
| 21:52 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , opac-ics depends on Date::ICal which is largely unmaintained | |
| 21:52 | jcamins_away | eythian: I saw that. I'll be doing packaging later in the week, at which point I'll sign off on those. |
| 21:52 | Unless I get through this first. ;) | |
| 21:52 | eythian | ah right, sweet as |
| 21:57 | jcamins_away | Pizza time! |
| 21:57 | cait | enjoy your pizza jcamins_away |
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| 22:05 | cait | hi Irma |
| 22:06 | Irma | hi cait :-) |
| 22:07 | Space_Librarian | hey Irma |
| 22:07 | cait | :) |
| 22:07 | Irma | hi Space_Librarian :-) |
| 22:21 | cait | @marc 500 |
| 22:21 | huginn` | cait: General information for which a specialized 5XX note field has not been defined. (Repeatable) [a,3,5,6,8] |
| 22:21 | rangi | @marc 550 |
| 22:21 | huginn` | rangi: Information about the current and former issuing bodies of a continuing resource. (Repeatable) [a,6,8] |
| 22:21 | rangi | not in authority records its not |
| 22:22 | its see also from tracing | |
| 22:22 | topical term | |
| 22:22 | wahanui | topical term is, like, a general subject |
| 22:22 | rangi | apparently |
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| 22:30 | magnus_afk | cait++ for signing off my patch and generally for being awesome |
| 22:30 | jcamins++ for being awesome | |
| 22:31 | cait | magnuse++ for being more awesome |
| 22:32 | magnus_afk | no way! |
| 22:32 | eythian | magnus_afk: bug 7409 and bug 7532 may be of interest to you too |
| 22:32 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7409 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Missing dependencies for Debian package |
| 22:32 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7532 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, robin, Needs Signoff , opac-ics depends on Date::ICal which is largely unmaintained | |
| 22:32 | magnus_afk | eythian: yup! |
| 22:33 | bug 6440 is top of my list though | |
| 22:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets |
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| 22:34 | rangi | jcamins_away: about? |
| 22:35 | magnus_afk | g'night #koha |
| 22:35 | eythian | bye |
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| 22:36 | Phlunk3 | hey guys, we have had a server reboot on a koha server, now zebra isnt working (no search) and the error log from zebra spits this out: http://pastebin.com/BkDEjtwN |
| 22:37 | rangi | look for a lock file |
| 22:37 | and or busted permissions | |
| 22:39 | Phlunk3 | thx, I know a colleague messed with some permissions to get it this far, will try ensure he returns everything to how it was and then have a look myself. thx rangi. |
| 22:39 | eythian | also look for more logs |
| 22:39 | rangi | i bet its permissions either of hte lock file, or the index files themselves |
| 22:40 | but yeah more logs good too | |
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| 22:43 | Phlunk3 | hmmz, it was days ago the server rebooted |
| 22:43 | since then been spitting that error every 30 secs, will have a look though | |
| 22:43 | eythian | basicaly all it's saying is that zebrasrv is dying as soon as it starts. |
| 22:44 | Phlunk3 | yeah |
| 22:44 | apparently the guy made the lock folders manually. | |
| 22:44 | rangi | that'd do it |
| 22:45 | Phlunk3 | as he was getting an error earlier, nm I'll get him to rollback and then see if I can fix the original issue. |
| 22:45 | rangi | i think ubuntu kills those dirs, the newer versions of koha (using the packages) makes the dirs |
| 22:45 | Phlunk3 | probably he just had to start a process, but instead tried to start wrong one etc |
| 22:45 | rangi | but it probably needs the dirs /var/lock whatever |
| 22:45 | Phlunk3 | ahh, it is package installed on ubuntu. but the dirs were gone he said. |
| 22:45 | rangi | but just owned by the user zebra is trying to run as |
| 22:46 | probably permissions then, check the dirs are owned by the right user | |
| 22:47 | Phlunk3 | who should own them? koha? |
| 22:48 | rangi | whats the user the zebra process is running as? |
| 22:48 | eythian | $ ls -ld /var/lock/koha |
| 22:48 | drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 4096 Dec 19 08:53 /var/lock/koha | |
| 22:48 | but the zebra process should create the dirs as needed in there. | |
| 22:48 | rangi | yup, for the packages |
| 22:48 | Phlunk3 | yeah I wont make them then |
| 22:48 | eythian | it should end up looking like: |
| 22:48 | drwxr-xr-x 4 demo-koha demo-koha 4096 May 21 2010 demo | |
| 22:48 | underneath that | |
| 22:49 | Phlunk3 | sorry to ask stupid q, but how can I see who its running as? |
| 22:49 | it quites out when I run it lol | |
| 22:49 | quits* | |
| 22:49 | eythian | how are you running it? |
| 22:49 | Phlunk3 | Im not running it manually, its just from a koha install package, whatever it gets setup to do on boot. |
| 22:50 | eythian | so, that uses an init script |
| 22:50 | Phlunk3 | I believe I didn't make any changes to startup scripts etc |
| 22:50 | yeah | |
| 22:50 | rangi | packages from debian.koha-community.org eh? |
| 22:50 | Phlunk3 | koha-common I presume |
| 22:50 | eythian | yeah |
| 22:50 | rangi | yup |
| 22:50 | Phlunk3 | 1 moment Ill check |
| 22:50 | jcamins_away | rangi: yeah. |
| 22:50 | eythian | what about in /var/log/koha/libraryname/zebra*log |
| 22:52 | Phlunk3 | same as I posted earlier? |
| 22:52 | rangi | jcamins_away: so im trying to create authority files from a csv file |
| 22:52 | i have a column USEFOR | |
| 22:52 | jcamins_away | Oh, you poor, poor man. |
| 22:52 | Phlunk3 | lol |
| 22:52 | rangi | example LEADTERM=Accounting USEFOR=Bookkeeping |
| 22:52 | im thinking 150a and 450a respectively? | |
| 22:53 | right track? | |
| 22:53 | jcamins_away | Yes. |
| 22:53 | rangi | yay, cait was helping me |
| 22:53 | jcamins_away | Your indicators will both be blank. |
| 22:53 | cait | lol |
| 22:53 | Phlunk3 | should any of the commands like koha-restart-zebra help me with making the log folder? or shall I just manually attempt it? |
| 22:53 | cait | glad I got it right ;) |
| 22:53 | eythian | Phlunk3: it should be there already |
| 22:54 | look in /var/log/koha | |
| 22:54 | jcamins_away | 008/09=a, 008/10=d, 008/11=z, 008/15=a, 008/17=a |
| 22:54 | Phlunk3 | I dont have that either eyth |
| 22:54 | eythian | how do you not? |
| 22:55 | Phlunk3 | lol |
| 22:55 | eythian | that's pretty strange |
| 22:55 | Phlunk3 | lemme check |
| 22:55 | wait | |
| 22:55 | ofc I do :P | |
| 22:55 | wrong vps | |
| 22:55 | eythian | heh that won't help any :) |
| 22:55 | rangi | jcamins_away: aahh ok :) |
| 22:55 | Phlunk3 | koha-error-log is there, no errors recently for it. |
| 22:56 | same with koha-opac-error | |
| 22:56 | eythian | no |
| 22:56 | zebra-* | |
| 22:56 | Phlunk3 | yeah, I pasted those earlier sorry thought you'd seen, moment |
| 22:56 | zebra-error-log: http://pastebin.com/BkDEjtwN | |
| 22:57 | rangi | jcamins_away: i guess i just have to create the leader and 003 and 007 now |
| 22:57 | Phlunk3 | output-log gives this every 30 seconds: 11:56:54-13/02 [fatal] lock file /var/lock/koha/mylibrary/biblios/zebrasrv.pid [No such file or directory] |
| 22:57 | rangi | hmm |
| 22:57 | no | |
| 22:57 | 003 | |
| 22:57 | i dont think need 007 | |
| 22:57 | jcamins_away | rangi: no 007. |
| 22:57 | rangi | gah, this hurts my brain |
| 22:58 | thanks | |
| 22:58 | jcamins_away | The 003 is going to be the same for all of them. |
| 22:58 | rangi | leader and 003 i can do |
| 22:58 | sweet | |
| 22:58 | jcamins_away | Just a code for the library. |
| 22:58 | rangi | *nod* |
| 22:58 | eythian | I wonder if you have an old version of the packages, I think the newer ones mkdir that. |
| 22:58 | cait | you can do it :) |
| 22:58 | Phlunk3 | Ill check what version it was. |
| 22:58 | it is quite old tbh needs updated | |
| 22:59 | jcamins_away | rangi: what's the story with bug 6431? |
| 22:59 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6431 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , New Circulation modules for Hourly Circulation |
| 23:00 | rangi | ah they have been pulled into the main one already |
| 23:00 | jcamins_away | all three patches apply without conflict. |
| 23:00 | rangi | by colin |
| 23:00 | eythian | In the short term, you can just mkdir them yourself, and chown them to koha-mylibrary |
| 23:00 | rangi | yeah 5579 has them applied already |
| 23:00 | jcamins_away | Okay, so, mark the bug RESOLVED-WONTFIX? |
| 23:00 | rangi | yeah i think so |
| 23:00 | with a note, these are in 5579 already | |
| 23:01 | jcamins_away | Same deal for 6430? |
| 23:02 | bug 6430 | |
| 23:02 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6430 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , DB changes needed for Hourly Circulation |
| 23:02 | Phlunk3 | have manually made them and will check out how it likes things now, thanks. |
| 23:04 | rangi | i think so |
| 23:04 | jcamins_away | Thanks. |
| 23:08 | rangi | hmm so if USEFOR =450a i wonder what USEPREF should be |
| 23:08 | eg LEADTERM=Accountability USEPREF=Responsibility | |
| 23:08 | jcamins_away | Oh, I see. |
| 23:09 | That is 450 $aAccountability, 150 $aResponsibility. | |
| 23:09 | Please don't gouge your eyes out! | |
| 23:09 | cait | uhoh |
| 23:09 | rangi | eek |
| 23:10 | cait | jcamins_away: you make his brain hurt! |
| 23:10 | jcamins_away | cait: it makes my brain hurt, too! |
| 23:10 | cait | perhaps my brain is too tired to hurt |
| 23:11 | jcamins_away | lol |
| 23:11 | rangi | ok, im gonna go get lunch and try again :) |
| 23:11 | thanks, makes sense, just hard to code | |
| 23:11 | * eythian | goes for lunch while my package build hopefully succeeds finally |
| 23:11 | Phlunk3 | okay this seems like a db issue? wasnt sure. http://pastebin.com/AaWKahRi |
| 23:11 | jcamins_away | Phlunk3: no, that's because you're missing the directories so that zebrasrv can start. |
| 23:12 | eythian | that's not a db issue |
| 23:12 | it's... | |
| 23:12 | what he said | |
| 23:12 | jcamins_away | mkdir /var/run/koha/mylibrary/ |
| 23:12 | Phlunk3 | ahh thanks |
| 23:12 | jcamins_away | *sudo* mkdir ... |
| 23:12 | Phlunk3 | who should own them? |
| 23:15 | jcamins_away | Phlunk3: good question. |
| 23:15 | (one moment while I find out) | |
| 23:15 | Phlunk3 | gave them to mylibrary-koha and that fixed it |
| 23:15 | jcamins_away | mylibrary-koha |
| 23:15 | Phlunk3 | thanks jc and the lunchroom team. |
| 23:15 | okay seems we need to upgrade that system to a newer koha version | |
| 23:16 | anyone knows where I can spitout current version via command line? | |
| 23:16 | jcamins_away | locate kohaversion.pl |
| 23:17 | Phlunk3 | our $VERSION = '3.04.02.000'; |
| 23:17 | isnt that really old? | |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | Uhhh... yeah, it is. |
| 23:17 | Phlunk3 | ffs I think someone has booted the wrong virtual machine |
| 23:17 | jcamins_away | That is... 7 months out of date. |
| 23:18 | Phlunk3: if it makes you feel any better, I know of another library that did that, too. | |
| 23:18 | Phlunk3 | thx man lol |
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| 23:29 | hephzibah | hello |
| 23:30 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 23:30 | hephzibah | I have just installed koha ils on my server |
| 23:31 | i will like to catalogue my books at the library into the software | |
| 23:32 | how can i use a bar code reader to read the book information to catalogue | |
| 23:32 | jcamins_away | hephzibah: I recommend you read the manual. |
| 23:32 | documentation? | |
| 23:32 | wahanui | somebody said documentation was at http://koha-community.org/documentation/ |
| 23:32 | jcamins_away | ^^ there. |
| 23:32 | wahanui | ^^ there is that very good point |
| 23:33 | jcamins_away | And... I guess that's all I had to say. |
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| 23:33 | jcamins_away | hephzibah: the short answer is, you won't be able to just scan books in and have Koha catalog them for you. |
| 23:34 | You can use the Z39.50 feature to download records from the Library of Congress (for example), though. | |
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| 23:39 | mib_a3y53e | hello |
| 23:39 | wahanui | privet, mib_a3y53e |
| 23:40 | mib_a3y53e | how do i take in records of my books into the koha ils i just installed |
| 23:45 | eythian | jcamins_away: bug 7238 is another one if you want to do packaging stuff that causes the build to break. |
| 23:45 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7238 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , move SIPconfig.xml, sip_run and sip_shutdown outside from C4 (NOT FOR 3.6) |
| 23:45 | eythian | (well, the patch I have there prevents the build from breaking) |
| 23:47 | BobB | mib_a3y53: there's a utility on the Tools menu you can use. |
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| 23:48 | BobB | @seen mtj |
| 23:48 | huginn` | BobB: mtj was last seen in #koha 5 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: * mtj waves to all |
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