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| Time | Nick | Message |
|---|---|---|
| 00:00 | lculber | okay |
| 00:00 | still to to rebuild.log ? | |
| 00:00 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 00:00 | And some point we'll actually get useful logs, which should be rather massive. | |
| 00:06 | YoungPublicLibrarian | So as a newcomer to the system, are there any hang-ups I should know about? |
| 00:06 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: well, it's not going to be identical to Voyager. |
| 00:07 | But you probably know that already. :) | |
| 00:07 | Other than that, the parts of the system that require some adjustments on the part of the staff vary greatly between different institutions and different people. | |
| 00:10 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Yeah, the test demo is very different, but not hard to use at all. |
| 00:15 | jcamins: are you a librarian that uses Koha? | |
| 00:16 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: I am, but I'm also a service provider. |
| 00:16 | My company, C & P Bibliography Services, offers cataloging to private collectors and special libraries, as well as limited Koha hosting. | |
| 00:17 | (that is, we offer Koha hosting to special libraries and private collectors) | |
| 00:17 | lculber | plus he provides help to librarians in distress |
| 00:17 | jcamins | lculber: yeah, that too. |
| 00:18 | And the resident authority record fanatic. | |
| 00:18 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol well thats good! We're all very nervous about the new system...everything is so different... |
| 00:18 | lculber | yeah we really like that part about the authority fanatic |
| 00:19 | jcamins | (I'm not a martinet though, really!;) |
| 00:19 | YoungPublicLibrarian: it'll be a huge adjustment, but in six months, you'll have trouble believing that you ever used anything but Koha. | |
| 00:20 | YoungPublicLibrarian: are you working with a vendor? | |
| 00:20 | lculber | n: have you played with the demo much? Thats what we did. We also set up a small test server before deciding to move |
| 00:22 | YoungPublicLibrarian I mean. We set up a test server in house - very small test | |
| 00:23 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I'm not sure if we're working with a vendor, I have made sure I can complete any task I do now with Voyager in the Demo/test server just to be sure I can manage. |
| 00:23 | lculber | It was on a PC actually. It was a bit slow but it worked |
| 00:23 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: do you have any sort of training? |
| 00:23 | I mean, on the new Koha system. | |
| 00:24 | Most vendors will provide a couple of days of training on the system. | |
| 00:24 | YoungPublicLibrarian | We will be having training the first part of March and going to the new system the beginning of April. And the vendor might be Bywater Solutions...? |
| 00:25 | jcamins | Ah, yes. |
| 00:25 | * jcamins | used to work for ByWater. |
| 00:25 | has to go pick up his wife from the bus stop. | |
| 00:25 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Have a good day and THANKS! |
| 00:26 | jcamins | lculber: I'll be back a bit later to offer what help I can. |
| 00:26 | lculber | jcamins: Thanks! |
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| 00:52 | * eythian | uploads new dev packages |
| 01:02 | jcamins_away | eythian++ |
| 01:12 | * jcamins_away | goes to eat dinner. |
| 01:12 | jcamins_away | Back a bit later. |
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| 01:39 | * jcamins_away | waves to lculber. |
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| 01:41 | lculber | hello Koha |
| 01:41 | jcamins_away | Hello. |
| 01:42 | lculber | jcamins: I just saw you email about running rebuild manually, but we went off on a tangent |
| 01:42 | jcamins | Oh? |
| 01:43 | lculber | We tried running the instructions to recover from a corrupted index as koha and got a segmentation fault. As root it worked. |
| 01:44 | jcamins | Really? |
| 01:44 | Hm. | |
| 01:44 | That indicates permissions. | |
| 01:44 | lculber | Exactly. But we couldn't find out where. So we decided to try to run rebuild as root and it ran |
| 01:45 | So it is permissions. But we do know where we have them set wrong. | |
| 01:45 | do/don't | |
| 01:45 | wahanui | do/don't is not easy to translate into norwegian... |
| 01:46 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 01:46 | wahanui: forget do/don't | |
| 01:46 | wahanui | jcamins: I forgot do/don't |
| 01:46 | lculber | We manually changed the permissions in zebra after running rebuild but we maybe it is somewhere in the config file maybe? We don't know |
| 01:47 | jcamins | lculber: could you copy the results of ls -lR /var/lib/catalog to paste.koha-community.org? |
| 01:54 | pastebot | "lculber" at 205.144.233.146 pasted "ls -lR /var/lib/catalog" (115 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/250 |
| 01:54 | Space_Librarian | my goodness, that analytics stuff looks awesome. It just appears to wipe the MARC record clean once you click on create analytics (for us anyway). |
| 01:54 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: what do you mean? |
| 01:56 | lculber: hm. | |
| 01:56 | This is very odd. | |
| 01:57 | lculber | jcamins: Now that is after we changed it. They were all root after we ran it. We manually change it to koha. |
| 01:58 | But now that it is changed, I just checked the catalog and it is allowing me to modify the catalog and the searches are working. | |
| 01:58 | Space_Librarian | jcamins: just what I said. do the new > analytics > create analytics > pops to the MARC screen with 753 populated.... and nothing else. All other aspects of the record will be blank. |
| 01:58 | jcamins | Space_Librarian: ah, yes. |
| 01:59 | Space_Librarian | So will try book some time with rangi when he is finally back and in one place for more than 5 minutes to get it sorted... |
| 01:59 | jcamins | lculber: but it's odd that if you do a rebuild_zebra -r it won't work. |
| 01:59 | lculber | exactly. But it has to be permissions, don't you think? |
| 01:59 | jcamins | Yes. |
| 02:00 | lculber | And it is only on the catalog instance. |
| 02:02 | Well, we've identified the problem - sort of - just not pinpointed it. So that is progress. Thanks for your help. We're going home to eat and sleep. It's been a long day. | |
| 02:03 | Good night, Koha | |
| 02:04 | jcamins | Good night. |
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| 03:25 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:25 | bag around? | |
| 03:46 | bag | heya Amit_Gupta |
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| 05:06 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:13 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait gm |
| 05:15 | cait | morning Amit_Gupta |
| 06:09 | existing_permissions_that_are_not_used_anywhere-- | |
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| 06:12 | Oak | what's wrong with an egg cait ? |
| 06:12 | kia ora #koha | |
| 06:12 | Guten Morgen cait | |
| 06:13 | cait | hi Oak |
| 06:13 | :) | |
| 06:13 | only not eating so many eggs | |
| 06:13 | how were your exams? | |
| 06:13 | Oak | date got pushed to 20th February... |
| 06:17 | cait | oh :( |
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| 06:50 | cait | morning mbalmer |
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| 07:10 | Suzzane | Good morning |
| 07:11 | Chris, i need help | |
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| 07:14 | Suzzane | alex, Hi. |
| 07:14 | i need to ask a question | |
| 07:14 | alex_a | morning #koha |
| 07:14 | Suzzane: me ? | |
| 07:14 | Suzzane | yes, you alex |
| 07:15 | alex_a | you mean alex_a ? ;) |
| 07:15 | Suzzane | i dont know what i touched while trying to configure the system |
| 07:15 | yes alex_a | |
| 07:15 | the font has just changed | |
| 07:15 | please guide me | |
| 07:16 | alex_a | Suzzane: the font of the system ? |
| 07:16 | Suzzane | yes |
| 07:16 | the font for the system | |
| 07:17 | alex_a | which system ? |
| 07:17 | Suzzane | koha 3.6 |
| 07:17 | alex_a | ah koha |
| 07:17 | Suzzane | it has changed even the font of the OPAC |
| 07:18 | please tell | |
| 07:20 | alex_a | Suzzane: i don't know. may be you have disabled a stylesheet on koha ? |
| 07:21 | Suzzane | ok |
| 07:21 | lets try that | |
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| 07:45 | reiveune | hello |
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| 07:46 | julian_m | hi! |
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| 07:47 | sophie_m | hello #koha |
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| 07:50 | magnuse | kia ora #koha! |
| 07:51 | * magnuse | turns off the bugzilla-to-twitter hose |
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| 07:59 | druthb | \o |
| 07:59 | magnuse | o/ |
| 07:59 | wow, druthb here, now? | |
| 07:59 | early or late? | |
| 08:00 | druthb | late-and-then-some. can't sleep. |
| 08:00 | magnuse | ah |
| 08:00 | no migration going on? | |
| 08:01 | druthb | I have one scheduled for this weekend, but there have been some quirky data issues--it may or may not happen, at this point. |
| 08:05 | magnuse | lots of working on the weekends for you, eh? |
| 08:05 | druthb | yup, quite a lot. |
| 08:05 | magnuse | hope you can compensate by taking other days off? |
| 08:06 | druthb | not very often, no. |
| 08:06 | magnuse | :-( |
| 08:06 | druthb | I do have two weeks off planned starting March 10. :) |
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| 08:09 | asaurat | hi |
| 08:09 | Suzzane | druthb |
| 08:09 | hi | |
| 08:09 | wahanui | que tal, Suzzane |
| 08:09 | magnuse | druthb: yay :-) |
| 08:10 | Suzzane | am in a fix |
| 08:10 | druthb | hi, Suzzana. :) |
| 08:10 | magnuse | hiya asaurat and Suzzane |
| 08:11 | Suzzane | i dont know what i changed when i was configuring the koha 3.6 |
| 08:11 | the font has changed | |
| 08:11 | what to do? | |
| 08:12 | dtuthb please assist | |
| 08:13 | druthb | Not sure what I *can* do to assist, Suzzane. The only general things I can suggest is, if you have custom templates, turn that off...and you might also check for problems in opacusercss and intranetusercss system preferences. Other than that, without *seeing something*, there's really not much I can do. |
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| 08:13 | kf | hi #koha |
| 08:13 | * druthb | waves to kf. |
| 08:13 | magnuse | guten morgen kf |
| 08:13 | kf | go to bed druthb! :) |
| 08:13 | hi magnuse :) | |
| 08:14 | druthb | nope nope nope. |
| 08:15 | Suzzane | thanks druthb |
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| 08:15 | Suzzane | Hi kf |
| 08:15 | kf | druthb: yes yes yes |
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| 08:16 | druthb | Wish I could do more for you, Suzzane, but I'm not psychic, particularly at this hour of the clock. |
| 08:16 | kf: :P :P | |
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| 08:22 | Suzzane | hahaha what time is it there? |
| 08:23 | druthb | 02:23. |
| 08:23 | @wunder 66049 | |
| 08:23 | Suzzane | ops |
| 08:23 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 3.4°C (2:23 AM CST on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:23 | Suzzane | sorry, its 11.30am here |
| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder boo |
| 08:24 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 6.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 1.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:24 | magnuse | yay! |
| 08:24 | @wunder marseille | |
| 08:24 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -3.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising). |
| 08:24 | magnuse | wow |
| 08:24 | druthb | zomg. It's warmer in NORWAY that it is in Kansas. Oy. |
| 08:24 | magnuse | @wunder kautokeino |
| 08:25 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -15.0°C (7:00 AM CET on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -18.0°C. Pressure: 30.22 in 1023 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:25 | druthb | very peculiar winter we've had this year. |
| 08:25 | hm. | |
| 08:25 | @wunder mcmurdo | |
| 08:25 | huginn` | druthb: The current temperature in McMurdo, Antarctica is -5.0°C (7:00 PM NZDT on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 20%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Pressure: 29.27 in 991 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:25 | Suzzane | we have nice weather in Kenya |
| 08:25 | druthb | @wunder longyearbyen |
| 08:25 | huginn` | druthb: Error: No such location could be found. |
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| 08:25 | druthb | tsk. |
| 08:25 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 08:26 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -7.6°C (9:24 AM CET on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -10.0°C. Windchill: -11.0°C. Pressure: 30.53 in 1033.7 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:26 | asaurat1 | @wunder Hof |
| 08:26 | druthb | @wunder Iqaluit |
| 08:26 | huginn` | asaurat1: The current temperature in Leupoldsgruen 624m, Germany is -13.5°C (9:19 AM CET on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: -16.0°C. Windchill: -21.0°C. Pressure: 30.69 in 1039.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:26 | druthb: The current temperature in Iqaluit, Nunavut is -30.0°C (3:00 AM EST on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -33.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising). | |
| 08:26 | druthb | now we're talkin' cold. |
| 08:26 | magnuse | yeah |
| 08:27 | there were places in norway that had almost -40 about a week ago | |
| 08:29 | druthb | hee hee...google maps shows Iqaluit harbor iced solid...and about a 2 km outside the harbor, it's a summer shot...clear. dead-straight line across...Ice, and not-ice... |
| 08:30 | magnuse | heh |
| 08:31 | druthb | ooo...it also shows an aircraft off in the snow at the side of the runway, about halfway down. Wonder what happened. |
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| 08:34 | druthb | hi, francharb! :) |
| 08:35 | kf | francharb: can you tell druthb to go to bed? |
| 08:36 | druthb | he can try. |
| 08:36 | he's taller, but I'm bigger (and meaner.) | |
| 08:38 | hdl | druthb: GO2BED |
| 08:38 | druthb | lulz. |
| 08:39 | hdl | it is the old story of the hospital and charity... |
| 08:39 | :D | |
| 08:39 | druthb: GO2BED | |
| 08:39 | druthb | hdl: :P |
| 08:39 | hdl | druthb: you are in a quiet place. |
| 08:39 | druthb: and everything is quiet and green. | |
| 08:39 | druthb | no, I'm not. My daughter is snoring like a chainsaw in the next room. |
| 08:40 | hdl | druthb: well, in a fancy forest... and there are fairies. |
| 08:40 | kf | hdl: thx for the hint about the serials permission yesterday :) I sent a patch |
| 08:40 | hdl | And they have soem sands... |
| 08:40 | kf | hdl++ |
| 08:40 | * druthb | perks. |
| 08:40 | druthb | Pixies? |
| 08:40 | hdl | druthb: and.... |
| 08:40 | Zzzzzzz | |
| 08:40 | Zzzz | |
| 08:40 | druthb | :P |
| 08:41 | * hdl | leave you alone. |
| 08:41 | hdl | Courage... |
| 08:41 | handing coffee and cookies. | |
| 08:41 | druthb | If I can get this one script fixed up, to do *one* more thing coherently, then I'll go to bed, try to get a couple more hours sleep. |
| 08:42 | hdl | which script ? |
| 08:42 | kf | hdl: she just will not listen |
| 08:42 | druthb | It's a squirrelly little custom script for a really strange migration that we have for this weekend. |
| 08:43 | hdl | kf you can't imagine how much I am with druthb |
| 08:43 | ah... custom_script-- | |
| 08:43 | kf | on the script or being tired? |
| 08:44 | druthb | yeah, my generic tools just can't hack the messy ugly data this one has given us. |
| 08:44 | hdl | all biblibre in Marseille today. |
| 08:44 | druthb | filthy stuff. |
| 08:44 | hdl | \o/ |
| 08:44 | \o/ | |
| 08:44 | \o/ | |
| 08:45 | * kf | waves at biblibre |
| 08:46 | druthb | \o/ |
| 08:48 | kf | bug 7294 is interesting |
| 08:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7294 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire.hernandez, NEW , status "in order" |
| 08:50 | kf | hmm offline circulation plugin - is this the right page to install from? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-[…]refox/addon/koct/ |
| 08:52 | magnuse | kf: yeah, think so |
| 08:52 | kf | k, thx :) |
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| 08:55 | hdl | yep. |
| 08:55 | But this is the BibLibre offline circ. | |
| 08:56 | druthb | Sure do wish I could wheedle the boss into sending me to Marseille for my vacation-ish time. |
| 08:56 | magnuse | hm, i tried installing it, but i can't see it anywhere? |
| 08:56 | excellent idea, druthb! | |
| 08:56 | i wish i could be there too | |
| 08:58 | druthb | Can't imagine he'd do that, tho. |
| 08:59 | magnuse | worth a try? |
| 09:00 | druthb | not my bailiwick; we have devs who would be higher-priority. Now, if I was planning on a run for one of the community jobs, maybe. |
| 09:00 | (but I'm not.) | |
| 09:00 | (yet) | |
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| 09:08 | kf | magnuse: right bottom corner of your browser, little icon :) |
| 09:09 | * kf | is on a documentation quest for the bsz wiki |
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| 09:12 | kf | hdl: something wrong with the biblibre offline circ? :) |
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| 09:12 | kf | hdl: I am aware there is another implementation from kyle hall, but I like the idea of having a plugin instead of a separate program |
| 09:16 | druthb | wahoo! Got my script working. I'm gonna head to bed for a bit. |
| 09:16 | Amit_Gupta | heya kf |
| 09:16 | kf | sleep well druthb |
| 09:16 | hi again Amit_Gupta | |
| 09:16 | drojf1 | good day #koha |
| 09:18 | mveron | Hi everybody, I work together in the group with mbalmer. Have a question about bug 6709 / Translating XML files for marc21 fields. |
| 09:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6709 normal, P5 - low, ---, frederic, NEW , marc21_field_006.xml and marc21_field_008.xml can't be translated. |
| 09:20 | magnuse | kf: nope, when i check it says it's incompatible with ff 10... |
| 09:21 | mveron | Question: I want to have a German translation. Should I translate the German XMLfiles manually? Are the strings already translated? |
| 09:23 | magnuse | mveron: german should be 100% translated, all you need to do is install it |
| 09:24 | * drojf1 | pokes kf, the ruler of german koha |
| 09:24 | kf | lol |
| 09:24 | what do you want? :) | |
| 09:24 | * kf | reads back |
| 09:25 | drojf1 | hi kf ;) mveron had a question |
| 09:25 | kf | mveron: at the moment you can not translate them with koha tools |
| 09:25 | mveron: what you can do is translate them and copy them into your template directory, but you will have to do it over and over... for each time you regenerate the german templates | |
| 09:26 | so a better option would be to fix the translation script, so that those xml plugins get their own po file | |
| 09:26 | magnuse | xml plugins? |
| 09:26 | kf | yeah |
| 09:26 | not really xml plugins, plugins using xml files for strings | |
| 09:26 | 006 and 008 | |
| 09:27 | in my eyes it was oversight - they shoudl not have gone in breaking translation | |
| 09:27 | magnuse | ah, the value builders? |
| 09:27 | kf | but nobody thought about it until it was too late |
| 09:27 | and hi mveron - we have met :) I am Katrin Fischer ;) | |
| 09:28 | magnuse: using firefox 9.0.1 - it works there | |
| 09:28 | magnuse: perhaps file a bug report? | |
| 09:28 | magnuse | yeah, i think the admins for the plugin just have to go in and say "yes it works for ff 10" (if it does) |
| 09:29 | kf | hmm |
| 09:29 | I can't save | |
| 09:29 | magnuse | clrh around? |
| 09:31 | kf | ah now it worked |
| 09:31 | hmm | |
| 09:32 | mveron | Thanks maguse and kf. Yes kf, we met, you did a great demo of Koha a couple of years ago for an ILS evaluation project. |
| 09:32 | kf | would be nice if it kept the cardnumber |
| 09:32 | mveron: a lot of things changed and improved since then - it's always amazing to see how fast Koha improves | |
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| 09:34 | mveron | kf: Yes, I am amazed as well. You did some more Koha installations in Gemrany since then. Would like to spread Koha a little bit more in Switzerland as well. |
| 09:34 | magnuse | mveron++ |
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| 09:36 | kf | mveron: yes we grew a little bit :) and more libraries moving to Koha this year |
| 09:38 | mveron | kf: For the XML files: We will do some demos with German speaking librarians in a couple of weeks. So I will have to go te hard way for now and translate the XMLs. |
| 09:38 | kf | mveron: perhaps you can add a comment on the bug? |
| 09:38 | little push... brings back attention perhaps | |
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| 09:44 | mveron | kf: Ok, will do. |
| 09:46 | kf | hm |
| 09:55 | mbalmer | hi mveron ;) |
| 09:56 | kf | drojf1: sounds ok to me :) |
| 09:56 | hi mbalmer | |
| 09:56 | mbalmer | ;) |
| 09:57 | mveron | mbalmer: hi mbalmer :-) |
| 10:00 | kf | hdl, clrh: I am testing and documenting the koct plugin - I have problems uploading the results - any hints? when I click on commit nothing happens |
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| 10:16 | paul_p | hello #koha |
| 10:16 | magnuse | bonjour paul_p |
| 10:24 | kf | hi paul_p |
| 10:24 | perhaps you know: I am trying to test the koct plugin | |
| 10:24 | should it work with 3.6.3? | |
| 10:24 | I fail uploading my transactions to koha | |
| 10:24 | and there seems no option to get the a .koc file from it | |
| 10:25 | paul_p | kf, hi |
| 10:25 | the koct plugin should work with master. I haven't tested against 3.6.3 | |
| 10:25 | do you have the needed tables ? | |
| 10:25 | (pending_offline_operations) | |
| 10:27 | kf | no |
| 10:27 | because they are not ithere | |
| 10:27 | not sure if they are in master | |
| 10:28 | paul_p: seems the table are stuck in bug 5877 :( | |
| 10:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5877 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Offline circulation improvements : upload all files, apply at once |
| 10:29 | kf | paul_p: but it should work once I have added the table? |
| 10:29 | paul_p | kf yep |
| 10:29 | mveron | kf: Regarding the XMLs: I'm not a librarian... Would this be a valid source for the translation?: http://files.d-nb.de/pdf/marc_bd.pdf |
| 10:29 | kf | mveron: yep, perfect source, it's what I used for all marc related translations :) |
| 10:30 | mveron: so should be consistent and it is the official german translation | |
| 10:30 | mveron | kf: So let's copy-paste... |
| 10:30 | paul_p | kf what do you mean by "stuck" ? the updatedatabase & kohastructure.sql contains them (http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ment.cgi?id=6540) |
| 10:30 | kf | mveron: be happy the frameworks are already translated... that was no fun |
| 10:30 | paul_p | it's numbered wrongly though: |
| 10:30 | +$DBversion = "3.05.00.XXX"; | |
| 10:31 | kf | paul_p: the bug is not pushed yet :) |
| 10:31 | paul_p | but the XXX is here, so it's OK |
| 10:31 | kf | paul_p: so I don't have it in 3.6.3 |
| 10:31 | paul_p | kf of course the KOCT is not here ! |
| 10:31 | mbalmer | just received a wonderful book: "decodeunicode - Die Schriftzeichen der Welt". Contains pictures of all(?) unicode characters |
| 10:31 | * drojf1 | is happy the frameworks are already translated too ;) |
| 10:31 | paul_p | OK, I misunderstood what you wanted to do. |
| 10:31 | drojf1 | kf++ |
| 10:32 | kf | paul_p: wanted to document with our current version - so it will not work? I htought bug 5877 was only an improvement of the existing feature |
| 10:32 | paul_p | kf you'll get a bunch of ++ if you could test & signoff on master, as marcel request another signoff, external of BibLibre |
| 10:32 | kf | paul_p: let me figure out how it works for a simpler use case first |
| 10:32 | paul_p | kf yep, but a large one, will be only in 3.8 |
| 10:32 | kf | paul_p: so the question remains - any chance that it will work in 36.3 after adding the table |
| 10:32 | ? | |
| 10:32 | paul_p | kf nope, you'll need the patch |
| 10:33 | kf | *sigh* |
| 10:33 | ok | |
| 10:33 | perhaps we should not offer a plugin | |
| 10:33 | paul_p | (but the patch could work on a 3.6.x) |
| 10:33 | kf | that can never work |
| 10:33 | without a note | |
| 10:33 | paul_p | kf where is the plugin announced ? |
| 10:33 | kf | that it is still experimental |
| 10:33 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]on_firefox_plugin | |
| 10:33 | https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/koct/ | |
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| 10:35 | paul_p | kf wiki page updated ;-) |
| 10:35 | kf | ok |
| 10:35 | paul_p | kf but, really, you're more than encouraged to test/sign-off this tool ! |
| 10:35 | kf | and the bug said improvement... so I assumed it would work somehow without |
| 10:35 | paul_p | (you may get some french croissants next months for this :D :D) |
| 10:35 | kf | trying to bribe me with food again? |
| 10:36 | ts. try chocolate ;) | |
| 10:36 | magnuse | uploading .koc files used to work? |
| 10:36 | paul_p | me ? nooooooo ... |
| 10:36 | kf | magnuse: yep, but the plugin does not generate a koc file |
| 10:36 | magnuse: you don't get it out of it | |
| 10:36 | magnuse | oh! |
| 10:36 | kf | I have perfectly recorded transactions... and I can do nothign with them now :( |
| 10:36 | magnuse | btw paul_p: i tried installing the plugin on ff 10, and got an error that it was not compatible |
| 10:37 | paul_p | magnuse ??? really ? I've it on my FF 10.0 from ubuntu |
| 10:38 | magnuse | huh, looks like it might work now |
| 10:38 | ah, works now | |
| 10:39 | i installed it, didn't see anything, looked in Tools > Extensions and it said "not compatible" | |
| 10:39 | now when i checked Tools > Extensions again i just had to activate it... | |
| 10:39 | paul_p | strange... |
| 10:39 | wahanui | i think strange is that, in opac, it remains the same... callnumber is normal... this problem appears only in staff interface |
| 10:39 | magnuse | wahanui: forget strange |
| 10:39 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot strange |
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| 10:42 | kf | paul_p: would it be possible to add an option to the firefox plugin for downloading .koc files? |
| 10:42 | paul_p: this way older versions could use the plugin too - because the upload of files works | |
| 10:42 | paul_p | kf I don't know.. |
| 10:42 | kf | I canf ile an enh bug ;) |
| 10:42 | paul_p | I don't think so because the KOCT contains a timestamp for each transaction that koc don't have |
| 10:43 | you could drop a mail to clrh to ask her | |
| 10:43 | kf | I think the timestamp is in the format too |
| 10:43 | I have once generated koc files | |
| 10:43 | trying to use it for a migration | |
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| 10:44 | kf | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ation_file_format |
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| 12:17 | kf | magnuse: around? |
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| 12:42 | magnuse | kf: a bit :-) |
| 12:45 | nah, gone now | |
| 12:52 | mveron | kf: In the XML I have the entry: url="http://www.loc.gov/marc/countr[…]untries_code.html" urltext="MARC Code List for Countries" |
| 12:53 | kf: Is there a German resource or should I leave it as is? | |
| 13:11 | kf | mveron: I think I would leave it - not aware of a german list, but there might be |
| 13:13 | mveron | kf: OK, thanks. I leave the linkas is and translate the urltxt to: Liste der MARC-Ländercodes |
| 13:15 | kf | sounds right to me :) |
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| 13:18 | oleonard | Hi #koha |
| 13:19 | * oleonard | assumes all bugs are now squashed? |
| 13:21 | kf | alll bugs are dead |
| 13:21 | you can have a nice weekend .) | |
| 13:27 | mveron | kf: What could be "Direct electronic" in German? - It is not in marc_bd.pdf (pos 23 23 - Art der Vorlage, q) |
| 13:29 | kf | oh |
| 13:30 | not sure | |
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| 13:32 | kf | oleonard: getting up at 3 am when the next day is a work day is not a lot of fun :( |
| 13:32 | oleonard | yeah, I know |
| 13:32 | * oleonard | has missed plenty of meetings that way |
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| 13:34 | kf | I like the idea of leaving an apology with a preference - I don't think it will get a big problem |
| 13:35 | not that many people voting on dev topics | |
| 13:37 | jcamins_away | What's the use of bug 7520? |
| 13:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7520 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , json script to return advanced search types |
| 13:37 | * chris_n | wonders in |
| 13:38 | chris_n | wanders even :) |
| 13:38 | too little coffee | |
| 13:38 | oleonard | Maybe for building AJAX-y things jcamins_away? |
| 13:39 | jcamins_away | oleonard: any idea what AJAX-y things? |
| 13:39 | oleonard | Autocomplete is the one that comes to mind first, but I'm not sure where we need that |
| 13:40 | jcamins_away | Yeah, that was my first thought, but the comment on the bug says it's for types of advanced searches rather than for itemtypes. |
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| 13:41 | kmkale | Namaste #koha |
| 13:41 | jcamins_away | And I can't see how one would use autocomplete with types of advanced searches. |
| 13:41 | kmkale | Anyone knows which marc tag should hold the date on shich a record was last edited? |
| 13:41 | *which | |
| 13:41 | jcamins_away | kmkale: 005. |
| 13:42 | kmkale | but loc site says the 005 should be system generated |
| 13:42 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd005.html | |
| 13:43 | oleonard | Is that a problem kmkale? |
| 13:43 | kmkale | I am doing a data migration from an oracle based local ILS |
| 13:43 | they have a field for date last updated | |
| 13:44 | would like to retain it | |
| 13:44 | jcamins_away | kmkale: yes, it should be. |
| 13:44 | kmkale: that is system-generated to be the date it was last edited. | |
| 13:44 | Except Koha doesn't automatically generate it. | |
| 13:44 | That's a bug. | |
| 13:44 | kmkale | so I can convert the date in indicated format and put it in 005? |
| 13:44 | oleonard | It does in the MARC editor via a plugin |
| 13:45 | jcamins_away | oleonard: it does? Huh. Didn't know that. Cool! |
| 13:45 | kmkale: right. | |
| 13:45 | oleonard | I think you have to trigger it though by focusing on the field |
| 13:45 | kmkale | cool. Thanks jcamins_away & oleonard |
| 13:45 | yes oleonard is right | |
| 13:45 | jcamins_away | oleonard: ah, yes, that I knew. |
| 13:45 | kmkale | if we cllick in the field its auto generated |
| 13:45 | jcamins_away | The 005 should not be user-editable at all. |
| 13:45 | It should be modified on saving. | |
| 13:45 | kmkale | not usefull for importing records though |
| 13:46 | mveron | kf: Direct electronic. Found something on http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008x.html. |
| 13:46 | kf: Storage on a directly accessible tangible recording medium, e.g. disc, tape, playaway device, flashdrive, portable hard drive, etc. If a distinction between types of electronic resources is not necessary, code s can be used as a generic code for any form of electronic resource. | |
| 13:47 | kf: In short "Elektronischer Datentäger"? | |
| 13:48 | kf | have no better idea |
| 13:49 | jcamins_away: could you take a look at 5337 for me? | |
| 13:50 | the discussion is about marc21 and ean... and I am not sure I foudn the right field | |
| 13:50 | and perhaps you have an idea how to resolve the problem with the mapping | |
| 13:50 | chris_n | jcamins_away: <= are you really ;) |
| 13:50 | jcamins_away | It's acquisitions, but okay. :) |
| 13:51 | chris_n: I should be getting ready to go. | |
| 13:51 | kf | hi chris_n :) |
| 13:51 | chris_n | heya kf |
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| 13:51 | kf | hi trea :) |
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| 13:52 | chris_n | so is there any use for a script that walks through bibs & items validating UTF-8 on all fields and subfields? |
| 13:52 | if so, I'll submit it | |
| 13:52 | jcamins_away | chris_n: definitely! |
| 13:52 | kf | I would think so too |
| 13:52 | chris_n | that's all it does atm |
| 13:52 | kf | will not hurt to have that |
| 13:52 | chris_n | just valid or invalid |
| 13:53 | kf | and if you submit others can improve it :) |
| 13:53 | * chris_n | puts it at the top of his Koha-to-do list |
| 13:54 | chris_n | submitting it, that is |
| 13:54 | I'd love to have someone test it against records with known UTF-8 problems | |
| 13:55 | or with a db of mixed UTF-8 and MARC-8 | |
| 13:55 | jcamins_away | kf: 024 with ind1=3. |
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| 13:55 | oleonard | I know we have mysterious records which are "corrupt" but I don't know why. |
| 13:56 | jcamins_away | kf: I'd like to see that have a togglable display, though. |
| 13:56 | kf | jcamins_away: huh? |
| 13:56 | jcamins_away | kf: you wan't to know where to put an EAN. |
| 13:56 | kf | aah |
| 13:56 | yes | |
| 13:57 | but our mappings don't work with indicators | |
| 13:57 | the problem is | |
| 13:57 | adding a record for orderingin acq means creating a marc record | |
| 13:57 | trea | morning kf |
| 13:57 | kf | so all the fields in the entry form have to have proper mappings or the values you enter will not save |
| 13:57 | chris_n | hi trea |
| 13:57 | kf | ... which is bad of course |
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| 13:58 | kf | and when you modify an acq record it pulls the values using the mappings... |
| 13:58 | trea | o/ hi chris_n |
| 13:58 | kf | would it hurt to map 24 to the new field? |
| 13:58 | even if other things can be saved there too? | |
| 13:58 | @marc 2 | |
| 13:58 | huginn` | kf: unknown tag 2 |
| 13:58 | kf | @marc 024 |
| 13:58 | huginn` | kf: A standard number or code published on an item which cannot be accommodated in another field (e.g., field 020 (International Standard Book Number), 022 (International Standard Serial Number) , and 027 (Standard Technical Report Number)). The type of standard number or code is identified in the first indicator position or in subfield $2 (Source of number or code). (Repeatable) [a,c,d,z,2,6,8] |
| 13:58 | * jcamins_away | doesn't see how. Just don't do EAN-y things with it if you put something else in for a record. |
| 13:59 | chris_n | does anyone know if "we" have a place for koha related file-sharing? |
| 13:59 | kf | not sure I understand what you mean |
| 13:59 | jcamins_away | kf: I mean, I don't think it would hurt. |
| 13:59 | kf | chris_n: I think that was what contribs was supposed to be, only that we don't have a new host for it |
| 13:59 | * jcamins_away | is tired. |
| 13:59 | kf | jcamins_away: I was worried because they do normalization things on the data in there... |
| 14:00 | * chris_n | passes jcamins_away more and stronger coffee |
| 14:00 | kf | there is a new sub |
| 14:00 | chris_n | can files be uploaded to the wiki? |
| 14:00 | kf | I think so |
| 14:00 | there are some pictures | |
| 14:00 | might depend on the file ending | |
| 14:01 | * chris_n | needs a place to have someone upload a koha db for dev foo |
| 14:01 | jcamins_away | kf: in that case, maybe a switch to only use it for UNIMARC would be a good idea. |
| 14:01 | chris_n | 36k bibs and 16k items |
| 14:02 | jcamins_away | We're going to end up with hundreds of bugs "in discussion," aren't we? |
| 14:03 | kf | we might |
| 14:03 | so we should close some | |
| 14:03 | can you add that last sentence? ;) | |
| 14:05 | jcamins_away | Okay. |
| 14:09 | * jcamins_away | marked it failed QA. |
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| 14:10 | kf | Thank you! |
| 14:15 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_929' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]262c25ab96e04871e> / Bug 929 : Follow up, shifting test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4d6b44873631554cc> |
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| 14:25 | jcamins_away | oleonard: I did a follow-up to bug 7284. |
| 14:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 14:25 | jcamins_away | The follow-up is much easier to test than the first patch. |
| 14:28 | And I wrote it in such a way that when both are applied my test plan will work. | |
| 14:29 | oleonard | Okay, so apply both, run through the test plan you had posted before? |
| 14:36 | jcamins | oleonard: yup. |
| 14:37 | * oleonard | hopes to have time later today to look at it again |
| 14:37 | * jcamins | hopes that too. :) |
| 14:38 | jcamins | paul_p: if you're pushing things today, do you think you could push bugs 7345 and 7392? |
| 14:39 | paul_p | jcamins /me pushing passed QA bugs now |
| 14:39 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 14:39 | paul_p | then trying to play with some "signed-off" ones |
| 14:39 | jcamins | paul_p++ |
| 14:40 | paul_p: I'm looking at your comment on bug 3719. How do I use the translation tool to change terminology? That would be very useful to me! | |
| 14:40 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3719 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, Failed QA , Create syspref to allow sites to rename OPAC Cart |
| 14:40 | kf | paul_p++ |
| 14:41 | paul_p | jcamins ./tmpl_process.pl create en_mytranslation |
| 14:41 | this will create a en_mytranslation .po file | |
| 14:41 | where you can "translate", for example "members" to "patron" | |
| 14:41 | kf | paul_p: I think it's easier now |
| 14:41 | paul_p | then tmpl_process install en_mytranslation |
| 14:42 | and activate en_mytranslation language in the opaclanguage syspref | |
| 14:42 | kf | hmmmm or not sure,perhaps you are right, you need a po file |
| 14:42 | but installing languages works differentnow | |
| 14:42 | once oyu have the po file | |
| 14:42 | do | |
| 14:42 | perl translate install <yourlanguagecode> | |
| 14:42 | jcamins | You say to create an en_library.pl file, but I'm not sure how to do that. |
| 14:42 | paul_p | ./translate install en mytranslation, you're right |
| 14:42 | jcamins | Ah. Thanks! |
| 14:42 | That's really cool! | |
| 14:43 | kf: even easier? That's even better! | |
| 14:43 | kf | the problem is, that there is no en po file |
| 14:43 | normally you would just do | |
| 14:43 | perl translate install <languagecode> | |
| 14:43 | and when you wnat to update the po file to match current templates, you do | |
| 14:44 | perl translate update <languagecode> and after that you can install them again | |
| 14:44 | jcamins | Right, that's why I wasn't sure how to do it for en. I've always just done translations with existing languages. |
| 14:44 | kf | not sure how to generate a po file - paul_p's suggestion on how to do it is probably right |
| 14:44 | or perhaps the translate script has an option for it that I have not used yet | |
| 14:45 | perhaps perl translate update <newcode> will just work | |
| 14:45 | translate create | |
| 14:45 | * oleonard | translates the staff client into Shakespearean english |
| 14:46 | kf | fredericd++ |
| 14:46 | jcamins | oleonard: brilliant! |
| 14:46 | kf | heh |
| 14:46 | * kf | thinks of a swabian catalog |
| 14:49 | jcamins | Does anyone have IE7? |
| 14:49 | * oleonard | snorts derisively |
| 14:50 | jcamins | oleonard: I want to mark bug 6621 RESOLVED--WONTFIX since it's 3.2. |
| 14:50 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6621 normal, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, prosentientsystems, Failed QA , Javascript error in cloning subfields |
| 14:51 | hdl | jcamins: try ie4linux |
| 14:51 | jcamins | hdl: I'm on a Mac. |
| 14:51 | Also, do I look like someone who would willingly install IE on my main computer? :P | |
| 14:52 | paul_p | jcamins if you're using linux, install "playonlinux" package, you can install IE7 easilly from here |
| 14:52 | I made that, it worked in a few clics ! | |
| 14:53 | * jcamins | could try that in a VM, but worries that his nice Ubuntu VM might burst into flame if he did that. |
| 14:53 | jcamins | It's just... wrong! |
| 14:53 | kf | heh |
| 14:54 | paul_p | jcamins playonlinux is not using a VM but just wine |
| 14:54 | jcamins | paul_p: I have a nice Ubuntu set up in a VM. IE is so evil I'm worried that it will cause Ubuntu to spontaneously die. ;) |
| 14:55 | paul_p | will pray for your ubuntu while you run IE7 for the 1st time, to avoid a heart break :D |
| 14:55 | oleonard | But really, two-versions-back of Koha and two-versions-back of IE? I think that merits a WONTFIX. |
| 14:55 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 14:55 | oleonard++ | |
| 15:00 | Does anyone else have opinions on bug 3634? | |
| 15:00 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3634 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, jwagner, Failed QA , Adding OpenURL link to XSLT ISSN/ISBN |
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| 15:01 | kf | hmm |
| 15:02 | I wonder if it will affect all links | |
| 15:02 | because this might not work? | |
| 15:02 | I have never worked with link resolvers really | |
| 15:02 | jcamins | I don't think that's sufficiently general. |
| 15:02 | Better to use More searches. | |
| 15:02 | kf | issn would be a nice addittion to more searches |
| 15:02 | maximep | paul_p: oh nice, didn't know about playonlinux |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Oh, we don't already have ISSN? |
| 15:03 | Hm. | |
| 15:03 | kf | only isbn |
| 15:03 | jcamins | Okay. |
| 15:03 | kf | and it's broken in a lot of views |
| 15:03 | except normal | |
| 15:03 | jcamins | I thought you fixed it? |
| 15:03 | kf | I did |
| 15:03 | jcamins | :D |
| 15:03 | kf | but it's the bug depending on your new marc export option... |
| 15:03 | and I have not teted your follow up yet | |
| 15:04 | so.. we are stuck there currently | |
| 15:04 | jcamins | It's set to passed qa. |
| 15:04 | kf | ooh |
| 15:04 | both? | |
| 15:04 | wahanui | both is the same |
| 15:04 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 15:04 | kf | very cool |
| 15:04 | * jcamins | thinks that marcelr finally got tired of being nudged. |
| 15:04 | is a very good nudger. ;) | |
| 15:04 | kf | paul_p: if you push those, I will bring you chocolate to marseille ;) |
| 15:04 | magnuse | wahanui: forget both |
| 15:04 | wahanui | magnuse: I forgot both |
| 15:05 | kf | jcamins: I noticed:) |
| 15:05 | jcamins++ and I love it | |
| 15:05 | magnuse | next gbsd - should we just call the marseille hackfest week "global bug squashing week"? |
| 15:06 | kf | oooh |
| 15:06 | I like that idea | |
| 15:06 | oleonard | Or are we going to create more bugs than we fix? :) |
| 15:06 | magnuse | hehe |
| 15:06 | kf | both possible |
| 15:06 | magnuse | magnuse? |
| 15:06 | wahanui | you are afraid that we added another 10000 bugs while he was eating pizza. |
| 15:07 | libsysguy | lol |
| 15:07 | libsysguy | |
| 15:07 | wahanui | well, libsysguy is Koha's hottest developer or partying with swedes on his deck |
| 15:07 | paul_p | kf now that both patches have passed QA, I'll push them, sure ! |
| 15:08 | libsysguy | jcamins one of our cataloging librarians said that your first testing plan was successful |
| 15:08 | she is working on the second one | |
| 15:08 | jcamins | libsysguy: woohoo! |
| 15:08 | Yay! | |
| 15:09 | libsysguy | and I guess I will have to do #3 lol |
| 15:09 | jcamins | paul_p: I'm looking at bug 7246. |
| 15:09 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7246 enhancement, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Failed QA , rebuild_zebra.pl --limit option to allow partial re-indexing |
| 15:09 | jcamins | Ohh. |
| 15:09 | I see. | |
| 15:10 | paul_p: if I were to ammend that patch, could I get your sign off? | |
| 15:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #618: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/618/ |
| 15:10 | Chris Cormack: Bug 929 : Follow up, shifting test | |
| 15:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=929 enhancement, P2, ---, chris, Pushed to Master , See details of a budget |
| 15:10 | paul_p | jcamins yes, of course |
| 15:16 | sorry kf, but bug 7345 fail QA (compilation error !) | |
| 15:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Failed QA , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields |
| 15:17 | jcamins | Bug 7345 doesn't compile? |
| 15:17 | Hm. | |
| 15:17 | * jcamins | will fix that. |
| 15:18 | paul_p | yesterday I wrote a small script to automatically detect patches that don't apply anymore. Will do some testing of this script now... |
| 15:19 | git bz++ | |
| 15:19 | and bugz++ | |
| 15:19 | kf | oleonard: can you perhaps give me a hint what to use for copy an element and replace another element with my copy? I used clone and after... but no I don't want to display it after the element but instead |
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| 15:20 | kf | paul_p: :( |
| 15:20 | jcamins will fix it | |
| 15:20 | * kf | has faith |
| 15:20 | paul_p | kf I think it's just a missing "my $error" |
| 15:20 | so it should be easy to fix | |
| 15:20 | kf | oh that could well be |
| 15:20 | paul_p: I fixed itin my patch | |
| 15:20 | push both on the same branch | |
| 15:20 | it should work | |
| 15:20 | oleonard | kf: You want to replace a tag and its contents with another tag and its contents? |
| 15:20 | kf | it's in staff right? I remember fixing it |
| 15:21 | oleonard: correct | |
| 15:21 | jcamins | paul_p: yes, I can confirm that it's fixed with the follow-up. |
| 15:22 | paul_p | jcamins yikes ! |
| 15:22 | jcamins | kf: no wonder I can't seem to duplicate the problem! |
| 15:22 | paul_p | my pre-applypatch script don't handle that ! |
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| 15:22 | paul_p | the 1st patch don't compile, everything stop |
| 15:22 | :( | |
| 15:22 | jcamins | Hm. Maybe we should squash them? |
| 15:23 | kf: do you mind if I squash them? | |
| 15:23 | paul_p | jcamins would be cool |
| 15:23 | and I think it's a good thing: a patch may be uncomplete, but it should not even not compile ! | |
| 15:23 | and I think it's a good thing: a patch may be uncomplete (and need a follow-up), but it should not even not compile ! | |
| 15:24 | jcamins | Agreed. |
| 15:24 | kf | k |
| 15:24 | paul_p | today was a big day = all of BibLibre staff (19) where in our office ! it was the 1st time ever !!! |
| 15:24 | kf | can you have 2 authors on one patch? |
| 15:24 | magnuse | yay |
| 15:24 | paul_p | and there was some snow in Marseille, 2nd rare event ;-) |
| 15:24 | magnuse | 19 - that's awesome! |
| 15:24 | kf | yes it is :) |
| 15:24 | jcamins | kf: no, that's why I asked if you minded. |
| 15:25 | kf: I'd even be willing to change it to you as author. | |
| 15:25 | kf | that would be kinda silly I guess |
| 15:25 | magnuse | "it'll snow in marseille before all the biblibre staff is gathered in one office" ;-) |
| 15:25 | kf | you did the hard work, I was only scratching the surface |
| 15:26 | jcamins | paul_p: should I obsolete the unsquashed patches? |
| 15:26 | paul_p | jcamins yes please |
| 15:26 | Guest2078 | wait is it snowing in marseille? |
| 15:27 | paul_p | wizzyrea yes it is ! |
| 15:27 | wizzyrea | !!!!! |
| 15:27 | fwiw it's snowing here too, but only a little. | |
| 15:27 | but then again, we are nowhere near the mediterranean. | |
| 15:27 | paul_p | only a little in Marseille too. |
| 15:28 | kf | all white here, but not a lot of snow |
| 15:28 | paul_p | http://www.laprovence.com/arti[…]-bouches-du-rhone |
| 15:29 | jcamins | paul_p: changed back to Signed off. |
| 15:29 | kf | oleonard: what I have is: $("#noitems").after($(".volumes a").clone()); |
| 15:29 | but instead of showing it after #noitems | |
| 15:29 | jcamins | You can check it applies, and then change it to Passed QA and Pushed. |
| 15:29 | kf | I want it to show instead |
| 15:29 | paul_p | "5 to 10cm, locally 20, most at the end of the day" |
| 15:29 | oleonard | kf: Maybe this? http://api.jquery.com/replaceWith/ |
| 15:29 | kf | oleonard: oh thx! I did a search with replace but missed that! |
| 15:29 | ah | |
| 15:29 | but it removes | |
| 15:30 | ... hm. Iwill just do it and the library will tell me if they like it or not .) | |
| 15:30 | oleonard | So maybe clone first, then use replaceWith? |
| 15:30 | kf | oh |
| 15:30 | I will try that | |
| 15:30 | gaetan_B | bye ! |
| 15:30 | kf | than you :) |
| 15:30 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #619 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 7 j 18 h ago) |
| 15:30 | jcamins | paul_p: kf will give you chocolate if you QA and push 7345. :) |
| 15:31 | * jcamins | freely gives away kf's chocolate. |
| 15:31 | kf | lol |
| 15:32 | I think you got my code, now I get to keep the chocolate! :) | |
| 15:32 | jcamins | kf: it's for a good cause. |
| 15:32 | Hehe. Gmail thinks messages about Koha 2.2.9 are spam. | |
| 15:33 | oleonard | Wow, you're right |
| 15:34 | kf | oleonard: remove() at the end worked too :) |
| 15:37 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/new/bug_6865' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]eddc73e3af786e87f> / Bug 6865 - Follow-up, Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]45789289215e90ee4> / Bug 7147 - Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns <http:// |
| 15:40 | hdl | kf jcamins sending you some of our cheesecake and tiramisu we ate today... |
| 15:40 | kf | oooh tiramisu |
| 15:40 | yum | |
| 15:40 | actually looking forward to the hackfest lunches | |
| 15:40 | :) | |
| 15:40 | hdl++ | |
| 15:41 | oh and oleonard++ for jquery help | |
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| 15:46 | wizzyrea | tiramisu! |
| 15:46 | kyle | is there a standard for modifying updatadatabasepl in a patch? Should I just use the next dbversion, or something along the lines of 3.07.00.XXX |
| 15:46 | magnuse | tirmaisu! |
| 15:47 | kyle | if it's the former, should I also update kohaversion.pl? |
| 15:47 | I'm not seeing any guidance from http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines | |
| 15:48 | jcamins | kyle: 3.07.00.XXX. |
| 15:48 | Never modify kohaversion.pl. | |
| 15:48 | kyle | thanks, just wanted to be sure. It's been a while since I've had to make a db change. |
| 15:49 | magnuse | guess this should be updated http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]system_preference |
| 15:49 | slef | yes please! |
| 15:50 | :) | |
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| 15:50 | wizzyrea | holy crap yes please. |
| 15:50 | slef | I was looking at that about something and thinking "I'm sure it's not like this any more" |
| 15:50 | * magnuse | didn't volunteer |
| 15:50 | slef | oh well when I get a round tuit |
| 15:50 | * magnuse | hand slef a round tuit |
| 15:51 | magnuse | *hands |
| 15:53 | yay | |
| 15:53 | heh "Any English idiotism should be avoided." | |
| 15:53 | wizzyrea | lol |
| 15:53 | help help i'm being repressed! | |
| 15:53 | slef | magnuse: ? |
| 15:54 | magnuse | slef: it says so on the page |
| 15:54 | * wizzyrea | refrains from idiotism |
| 15:54 | slef | magnuse: the wiki page? |
| 15:54 | wahanui | somebody said the wiki page was really not up to date |
| 15:54 | slef | wahanui: you rock! Have a botsnack! |
| 15:54 | wahanui | thanks slef :) |
| 15:55 | magnuse | slef: yup, almost at the bottom |
| 15:58 | slef | ok, well, that should be idiom then :) |
| 15:58 | magnuse | slef: that too would make sense ;-) |
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| 16:09 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:23 | hdl | kf: gehst du zum http://bibcamp.wordpress.com/ |
| 16:23 | ? | |
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| 16:24 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #619: STILL UNSTABLE in 53 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/619/ |
| 16:24 | * oleonard: Bug 6842 Alternate fix, Branch transfer limits broken | |
| 16:24 | * henridamien.laurent: Bug 6842 FU : library transfer limits edits not stored | |
| 16:24 | * duncan: Small fix to allow help popup in IE9, not 7 or 8 - bug 7339 | |
| 16:24 | * adrien.saurat: Bug 7457: log cleaning on basket.pl | |
| 16:24 | * f.demians: Bug 7505 Superlibrarian can't export all biblios when IndependantBranches is enabled | |
| 16:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6842 major, P2, ---, paul.poulain, Pushed to Master , Branch transfer limits broken |
| 16:24 | jenkins_koha | * oleonard: Bug 7147 - Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns |
| 16:24 | * oleonard: Bug 6865 - Follow-up, Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients | |
| 16:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, P5 - low, ---, duncan, Pushed to Master , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7457 normal, P5 - low, ---, adrien.saurat, Pushed to Master , basket.pl makes a lot of noise in the logs | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7505 minor, P5 - low, ---, frederic, Pushed to Master , Superlibrarian can't export all biblios when IndependantBranches is enabled | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7147 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Style Z39.50 search errors according to style patterns | |
| 16:24 | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6865 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Replace image-based gradient backgrounds with CSS3 gradients | |
| 16:26 | kyle | Anyone interested in signing off on my patch for Bug 7112 ? |
| 16:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7112 major, P3, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Having two prices in 020$c causes basket creation to fail from staged marc import |
| 16:29 | wizzyrea | i might get to that one - I'm looking at the cancel all holds button |
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| 16:33 | kyle | exellent! |
| 16:45 | kf | hdl: leider nicht / no :( |
| 16:47 | eek | |
| 16:47 | now I wanted to leave it sounds like it started to rain | |
| 16:50 | mveron | kf: Regarding the XML: I'm on line 1032 (out of 1302) now... Running out of time for today... |
| 16:50 | kf | mveron: I know, it's not a nice job |
| 16:50 | mveron++ | |
| 16:51 | mveron | kf: Hmm, it is a little bit like zen... |
| 16:51 | kf | paul_p: will you push 7392 too? it's the other half of 7345 |
| 16:52 | paul_p | kf i'll try to do it, but not now, I must go back home |
| 16:52 | kf | oh ok |
| 16:52 | * paul_p | tested his script to automatically detect "does not apply" patches. Works quite well |
| 16:53 | jcamins | paul_p: not even for chocolate? ;) |
| 16:53 | hdl | paul_p: ducked away |
| 16:53 | jcamins | kf: 7345 hasn't been pushed yet either. |
| 16:54 | kf | ah ok |
| 16:54 | sorry, missed that | |
| 16:54 | starting my weekend now :) | |
| 16:54 | jcamins | :) |
| 16:54 | Lucky you! | |
| 16:54 | kf | bye all |
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| 16:54 | mveron | kf: have a nice weekend |
| 16:55 | wizzyrea | bye kf! |
| 16:55 | doh | |
| 16:55 | missed her :) | |
| 16:55 | magnuse | see you kf! |
| 16:55 | heh | |
| 16:55 | mveron | by all! |
| 16:55 | magnuse | have fun mveron |
| 16:56 | mveron | maguse: Will do, I have a cooking session this evening with some friends. |
| 16:57 | magnuse | sounds like a good plan, and one that fits right into #koha to boot :-) |
| 16:57 | * magnuse | wanders off to flatten some pizzadough |
| 16:57 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 16:57 | Pizza! | |
| 16:57 | I don't have any yeast. | |
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| 17:02 | oleonard | jcamins without yeast? What has this world come to? |
| 17:02 | jcamins | oleonard: I know! It's awful. |
| 17:02 | Today I will try and figure out where the Costco is so I can buy yeast. | |
| 17:04 | Hm. A bit of a schlep. | |
| 17:04 | * oleonard | pictures jcamins with a gallon-sized jar of yeast |
| 17:05 | jcamins | Maybe I'll just go to a regular grocery store. |
| 17:09 | slef | Costco yeast? |
| 17:11 | jcamins | slef: it's the most affordable option. |
| 17:11 | And I've had really good look with it. | |
| 17:11 | slef | http://www.dovesfarm.co.uk/flo[…]ick-yeast-1x125g/ is my usual poison |
| 17:12 | probably shipping a bit dear for you ;-) | |
| 17:13 | jcamins | I would think so. |
| 17:13 | Also, that's only 125g. | |
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| 17:13 | slef | bigger packs are available |
| 17:14 | * jcamins | buys packages of 900g. |
| 17:14 | slef | objects are closer in the mirror than in reality |
| 17:16 | Windows? | |
| 17:16 | wahanui | well, Windows is a poor fit for free software like Koha. Some of the thing's we use heavily are not easily available at the moment. No-one's funded Koha 3.x for Windows and I'm not sure who'd be willing to work on it. You are probably best off using a liveCD for testing, then commissioning a GNU/Linux server. |
| 17:16 | slef | your internet? |
| 17:16 | LC? | |
| 17:16 | wahanui | somebody said LC was simply refusing to connect |
| 17:17 | slef | functionality? |
| 17:17 | wahanui | i heard functionality was the most important thing |
| 17:17 | slef | cait's English? |
| 17:17 | kf's English? | |
| 17:17 | wahanui | kf's English is broken |
| 17:17 | alaquerre | Hi, Question for you. When we are searching on OPAC we do get a lot of noise. When we search by Title using the quick search text field : Histoire. - The search string is : "ti,wrdl: histoire" We get let's say 100 results. After that if I try "ti: histoire" I am getting only 75 results. |
| 17:17 | Question : Is there a way to prevent Koha to automatically add the "wrdl" to the search query ? | |
| 17:18 | jcamins | alaquerre: you could use jQuery to modify the dropdown. |
| 17:21 | alaquerre | Really, not sure why but I did try a bit and even if I said : "ti" it was still adding the famous wrdl... Let me double check that. |
| 17:22 | jcamins | It's odd, though, because ti: should be equivalent to ti,wrdl: |
| 17:23 | It's equivalent for me. | |
| 17:23 | What version? | |
| 17:24 | alaquerre | 3.6 |
| 17:25 | I take your example on Jquery Library :-) value = ti and I still getting the "ti,wrdl" | |
| 17:25 | jcamins | If you type "ti:histoire" and "ti,wrdl:histoire" directly into the search box, do they get different results? |
| 17:25 | alaquerre | yes |
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| 17:26 | jcamins | And you adjusted the "Add additional searches" jQuery to replace the one that exists? |
| 17:27 | alaquerre | Yep. |
| 17:27 | formation.koha.ccsr.qc.ca - try it with the word "québec" | |
| 17:27 | jcamins | I suspect this is something that you can't adjust without modifying C4::Search. |
| 17:27 | Ooh. | |
| 17:28 | * jcamins | likes your design. |
| 17:28 | jcamins | How do you get the textboxes to look like that? |
| 17:28 | Oh wow. | |
| 17:28 | That gradient on the results is beautiful. | |
| 17:28 | How did you do that? | |
| 17:29 | Ummm... | |
| 17:29 | wizzyrea | that is pretty :) |
| 17:29 | very grey | |
| 17:29 | * jcamins | likes gray. |
| 17:29 | alaquerre | To be honest, all work is done by Libéo ( Maxime and Frédéric capovilla from Libéo. You can ask them how. |
| 17:29 | jcamins | This is very confusing. |
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| 17:29 | wizzyrea | hi cait |
| 17:29 | cait | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 17:30 | jcamins | maximep: I will bug you until you tell me how to make my OPAC as beautiful as yours! :P |
| 17:30 | cait | heh |
| 17:30 | jcamins | This is very odd. |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | jcamins: they did it with an image background on the result table row. |
| 17:30 | alaquerre | I represent 22 college library and Libeo work for us... |
| 17:30 | cait | maximep: he is very good at bugging and nudging - iwould give up |
| 17:30 | wizzyrea | but could probably easily be done with css3 |
| 17:30 | cait | hi alaquerre |
| 17:30 | what did I misss??? | |
| 17:30 | * wizzyrea | tries |
| 17:31 | jcamins | alaquerre: I don't think you can use that jQuery. |
| 17:31 | alaquerre: the code for the search is totally different. | |
| 17:31 | wizzyrea | yea I suspect that they've done something extra custom for you :/ |
| 17:32 | alaquerre | Ok got it :-) |
| 17:32 | I'll ask that to them then. Thanks again. | |
| 17:32 | jcamins | Phooey. |
| 17:32 | And it was sooo pretty, too. | |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea: okay, maybe I was wrong about disliking gradients. | |
| 17:33 | wizzyrea | keke |
| 17:33 | maybe you just don't like *some* gradients. | |
| 17:33 | ;) | |
| 17:35 | jcamins | They managed to get rounded corners on the bar above the search results, too. |
| 17:35 | oleonard | What are we talking about? |
| 17:35 | * jcamins | tried and tried and tried, and eventually gave up. |
| 17:35 | jcamins | https://formation.koha.ccsr.qc[…]=ti&q=qu%C3%A9bec |
| 17:36 | oleonard | Definitely some template modifications there |
| 17:37 | * oleonard | wonders if there is more we should be doing to make things flexible |
| 17:37 | * jcamins | thinks that would be great. |
| 17:38 | alaquerre | Yes, we did ask a lot of modifications. I know we put lot's of time & energy ($) to make it work... Going from 3.2--> 3.6. OPAC was one hard part. |
| 17:39 | jcamins | Bah! Now I want rounded corners on the bar at the top again. |
| 17:39 | cait | lol |
| 17:40 | eat a cookie instead? | |
| 17:40 | wizzyrea | bah that really ought not be so hard. |
| 17:40 | jcamins | wizzyrea: agreed, but it is. :( |
| 17:41 | alaquerre | I got to go... i'll sure have more question to the group soon. Have a good w-e. |
| 17:41 | maximep | jcamins: oh feel free to bug me, but it won't make my 6 other projects go away and won't make my client give me time to share stuff to the community |
| 17:41 | jcamins | Ah, it's border-collapse that is causing problems. |
| 17:41 | maximep: fair enough. | |
| 17:41 | wizzyrea | hm, i just added a border-radius: 5px; to the select box and it's rounded my corners ok :P |
| 17:41 | jcamins | maximep: it turns out it's a custom template, though, so never mind. |
| 17:42 | maximep | today I will probably work on typo3, magento, a C# project, alfresco (java+javascript) and another magento. fun times. |
| 17:42 | well there's only modifications in the header | |
| 17:42 | in masthead | |
| 17:43 | jcamins | maximep: yeah, but that's what I was going to bug you about. |
| 17:43 | ;) | |
| 17:43 | maximep | well I can put the code somewhere if u want |
| 17:43 | jcamins | That'd be awesome! |
| 17:43 | maximep++ | |
| 17:45 | pastebot | "maximep" at 199.21.216.30 pasted "opac/includes/masthead.inc" (276 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/251 |
| 17:45 | maximep | sry, no time to do better than this :p |
| 17:45 | ah | |
| 17:45 | I think there's some js modifications also | |
| 17:45 | bleh | |
| 17:46 | I could do a .patch of our branch if u really want | |
| 17:46 | jcamins | maximep: the js I already... errr... borrowed. :P |
| 17:46 | maximep | cool |
| 17:46 | * jcamins | would love to see it. |
| 17:47 | maximep | 28 .patch. bleh. |
| 17:47 | let's try something else... | |
| 17:50 | pastebot | "maximep" at 199.21.216.30 pasted "whole diff of our opac" (1898 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/252 |
| 17:50 | maximep | so not a good idea |
| 17:51 | jcamins | maximep: Nifty, thanks. |
| 17:51 | maximep | shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone about that :p |
| 17:52 | jcamins | I won't. |
| 17:55 | maximep++ # for giving me the key to getting rounded corners on the "Selection tools" bar. | |
| 17:56 | * jcamins | feels like he should probably decrement maximep's karma for making him want to give the search results gradients. :P |
| 17:56 | maximep | haha |
| 18:00 | oh shit, didn't see this all spawned from a discussion with my client | |
| 18:00 | * maximep | is reading his history |
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| 18:01 | collum | @wunder 41017 |
| 18:01 | huginn` | collum: The current temperature in Van Aachen, Erlanger, Kentucky is -1.2°C (1:00 PM EST on February 10, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1017.8 hPa (Falling). Winter Weather Advisory in effect from 3 PM this afternoon to noon EST Saturday... |
| 18:01 | collum | It's finally snowing. |
| 18:01 | oleonard | jcamins: Was there anything in your follow-up to Bug 7284 that might cause Step 6 of "testing the cataloging interface" to fail? Or might one of my settings be off? |
| 18:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 18:02 | maximep | and he was there when I said the line about not having time to share stuff haha |
| 18:03 | kyle | call for opinions on Bug 4045 . I'm looking to get more input before proceeding with a solution. |
| 18:03 | * oleonard | will continue testing after some lunch |
| 18:03 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4045 critical, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , No check for maximum number of allowed holds. |
| 18:03 | jcamins | oleonard: it shouldn't cause that to break. Do you have LinkerRelink turned off or LinkerKeepStale on? |
| 18:10 | paul_p | hi kyle & congrats ! |
| 18:12 | * maximep | looks back at what u answered to my client's question |
| 18:12 | maximep | because he just asked it to me |
| 18:12 | jcamins | maximep: it looks like your javascript interacts with the jQuery on the wiki. |
| 18:13 | maximep | jcaminsI suspect this is something that you can't adjust without modifying C4::Search. |
| 18:13 | hmmmm | |
| 18:13 | so to always remove the wrdl | |
| 18:13 | jcamins | maximep: actually, I revised my opinion. |
| 18:13 | I don't know if that's true, but I think the jQuery doesn't do what we'd want it to because there's other jQuery in there. | |
| 18:14 | maximep | probably |
| 18:14 | * jcamins | tries again. |
| 18:14 | jcamins | Actually, let me reinstate my original opinion. |
| 18:14 | It requires a modification of C4::Search | |
| 18:14 | maximep | :/ |
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| 18:17 | cait | paul_p: working on the patch |
| 18:17 | paul_p | cait++ |
| 18:18 | cait | hopefully figuring it out |
| 18:18 | paul_p | i'm so sorry there's another problem :\ |
| 18:18 | cait | did you push jcamins's patch first? |
| 18:18 | because it's a blocker for this | |
| 18:18 | jcamins | (bug 7345, the one I just squashed) |
| 18:18 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7345 enhancement, P3, ---, jcamins, Signed Off , Should be possible to export MARC records without private fields |
| 18:21 | jcamins | paul_p: bug 7248 has to be pushed before 7249. |
| 18:21 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7248 enhancement, P3, ---, chrish, In Discussion , Caching for services |
| 18:21 | paul_p | shame on me !! I missed the dependancy ! |
| 18:22 | jcamins | So that's why it doesn't apply. |
| 18:22 | paul_p | the dependancy is written in bugzilla, trying again |
| 18:22 | cait | I will still make sure if it works |
| 18:22 | but the other should go first :) | |
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| 18:23 | paul_p | OK, and 7248 is in discussion... |
| 18:24 | (this discussion seem to have quickly reached an agreement...) | |
| 18:25 | QAing bug 7090 now | |
| 18:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status |
| 18:31 | cait | oleonard-away: still around? somehoe? |
| 18:31 | did you forget to change status on 7113? | |
| 18:32 | paul_p | BibLibre decided to use trello.com today. It's a very nice tool (just to share the tool itself) |
| 18:34 | cait | paul_p: I have problems applying the patch, but no idea what's wrong |
| 18:34 | I think the sequence on the bug is wrong for one | |
| 18:34 | but not sure why the main patch is giving me problems | |
| 18:34 | maximep | paul_p: oh, looks good. I imagine it on a big tv to see what everyone is working on at all time |
| 18:35 | paul_p | maximep : big brother is watching you ;-) |
| 18:35 | maximep you're from CA right ? | |
| 18:35 | (CA = canada) | |
| 18:36 | maximep | yes |
| 18:36 | paul_p | do you speak french ? (your name is typically a french one !) |
| 18:36 | maximep | yes, from québec |
| 18:37 | paul_p | ah, un francophone de plus alors :D |
| 18:37 | maximep | oui mais j'aime pas écrire ici en francais pcq ca doit pas etre le fun pour les autres :p |
| 18:38 | paul_p | of course: we never speak french on this channel, but i'm happy to see there's another french-native ;-) |
| 18:38 | maximep | hehe |
| 18:38 | really not many from Québec that work with koha | |
| 18:39 | paul_p | are you in touch with inlibro ? |
| 18:39 | (eric beguin) | |
| 18:39 | jcamins | Hm. And marcelr isn't around. |
| 18:39 | cait | no he isn't |
| 18:39 | *sigh* | |
| 18:40 | jcamins | Bother. |
| 18:40 | maximep | we are for translations |
| 18:42 | jcamins | Oh, damn. |
| 18:42 | cait | hmm |
| 18:43 | wonder if yi still have the branch | |
| 18:43 | jcamins: would you sign off again? | |
| 18:43 | * jcamins | just fixed it and squashed it into the wrong patch. |
| 18:43 | cait | oooh |
| 18:43 | what was it? | |
| 18:43 | jcamins | I don't know. |
| 18:43 | cait | what did you do before the sqash? |
| 18:46 | jcamins | Yay! |
| 18:46 | Got it. | |
| 18:46 | cait | wooohoooo |
| 18:46 | jcamins++ | |
| 18:46 | my hero of the day :) | |
| 18:47 | jcamins | Now the only thing that's missing are the commit messages, since I did do that wrong. |
| 18:55 | paul_p: bugs 7345 and 7392 will now both apply. | |
| 18:55 | Please push them ASAP so they don't require revision again! | |
| 18:55 | :) | |
| 18:56 | paul_p: note that I squashed all patches for bug 7392 together. | |
| 18:56 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7392 enhancement, P3, ---, katrin.fischer, Passed QA , Add system preference to configure export options for OPAC detail page |
| 18:57 | bag | cool they are shooting a movie outside of my office :) |
| 18:57 | let's see if I can wear my koha shirt and get in as an extra | |
| 18:57 | jcamins | bag: anything good? |
| 18:57 | bag | no idea what it is - if it's a commerical or movie |
| 18:57 | but it's a production of something | |
| 18:58 | and they've got some cool cars parked around | |
| 18:58 | * paul_p | fighting against bug 7001, it seem there's something wrong for me... |
| 18:58 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips |
| 19:07 | cait | don't fight against... be like the grass |
| 19:07 | move with it | |
| 19:07 | ... | |
| 19:07 | sorry - long week :) | |
| 19:07 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:11 | cait | jcamins++ |
| 19:11 | oleonard | cait: I guess I did |
| 19:11 | paul_p | OK, time to leave now, my 2nd son has finished his hockey training. See you on monday #koha ! |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Uhhh.. |
| 19:14 | This is really, really weird. | |
| 19:14 | * jcamins | will take a screenshoot. |
| 19:14 | jcamins | Everyone else can stare at it in bafflement too. |
| 19:15 | http://screencast.com/t/dszHaaE3T | |
| 19:15 | jenkins_koha | Starting build #620 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #612 7 j 22 h ago) |
| 19:15 | jcamins | Tell me that's not bizarre. |
| 19:16 | maximep | it is |
| 19:16 | jcamins | Really, *really* weird. |
| 19:17 | It is my considered opinion that linebreaks in MARC records should not cause such dramatic issues. | |
| 19:18 | cait | ok |
| 19:18 | what do I miss? | |
| 19:19 | jcamins | How many results are there? |
| 19:19 | cait | oh |
| 19:19 | * cait | turns red |
| 19:19 | jcamins | It's late on a Friday. |
| 19:20 | huginn` | New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7090 follow-up, setting DBrev number when pushing <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3a5b416503c5f362e> / bug_7090: AllowItemsOnHandCheckout syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fe215c7b3036c166d> |
| 19:21 | oleonard | jcamins: Should LinkerRelink be turned off and LinkerKeepStale on when I'm testing step 6 in cataloging? |
| 19:23 | jcamins | Testing the cataloging interface? |
| 19:23 | LinkerRelink should be on, and LinkerKeepStale should be off. | |
| 19:24 | * oleonard | double-checks and tries again |
| 19:28 | jcamins | Any UNIMARCers around? |
| 19:29 | * oleonard | plans a dance number with a chorus line of UNIMARCkettes |
| 19:29 | jcamins | lol |
| 19:29 | gmcharlt: around? | |
| 19:30 | * jcamins | found a bug in MARC::Record. :( |
| 19:31 | cait | oleonard++ |
| 19:32 | jcamins | @later tell gmcharlt MARC::Record allows newline characters in its data, but that's not allowed by the MARC standard (so far as I can tell). It seems to me that MARC::Record should probably strip out newlines... unless I'm missing something? |
| 19:32 | huginn` | jcamins: The operation succeeded. |
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| 19:38 | oleonard | jcamins: step 6 is still not work. Can you check my settings? http://screencast.com/t/5Z7FFSDZbdp |
| 19:38 | * oleonard | tosses in an "ing" for good measure |
| 19:39 | jcamins | oleonard: sorry, that was dumb of me. |
| 19:39 | oleonard: change CatalogModuleRelink to "Do." | |
| 19:39 | wahanui | jcamins: that doesn't look right |
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| 19:40 | * oleonard | consoles wahanui |
| 19:40 | jcamins | Sorry, my mind is really fuzzy... I seem to have come down with a cold. |
| 19:41 | cait | :( |
| 19:41 | * cait | sends tea |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Thanks. |
| 19:42 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I have a small question, is it possible to add a fine manually with Koha? I read that it does it automatically, but what if we need to add one that the system wouldn't know about? |
| 19:43 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: it is indeed. |
| 19:43 | View the patron's record, then go to "Add manual invoice" or something like that. | |
| 19:46 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah, thank you! I was thinking of invoice as a reciet and not a bill! lol |
| 19:47 | * oleonard | still has no luck |
| 19:48 | jcamins | oleonard: so you entered a heading that you know matches an authority record you have? |
| 19:51 | * oleonard | checks one more thing |
| 20:04 | jcamins | Another good reason not to develop your frontend and backend interfaces completely separately: when you change the API on the backend, the frontend suddenly stops working. |
| 20:10 | jenkins_koha | Project Koha_master build #620: STILL UNSTABLE in 54 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/620/ |
| 20:10 | * srdjan: bug_7090: AllowItemsOnHandCheckout syspref | |
| 20:10 | * paul.poulain: Bug 7090 follow-up, setting DBrev number when pushing | |
| 20:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7090 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Pushed to Master , Add "AllowItemsOnHandCheckout" syspref to allow issue to the patron regardless of hold status |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Bye #koha |
| 20:16 | cait | have a nice weekend |
| 20:23 | YoungPublicLibrarian | jcamins? |
| 20:23 | wahanui | jcamins is an outstanding cook. or well-traveled and brilliant. or trying to think of a solution or awesome fixing broken email notifications or the wizard that forges queries in the deep fires of zebra or against all things wine. |
| 20:24 | jcamins | YoungPublicLibrarian: yes? |
| 20:24 | YoungPublicLibrarian | you said you used to work at Bywaters. What did you do for them? (If you don't mind me asking) |
| 20:25 | jcamins | I was their Lead Support Specialist. trea replaced me. |
| 20:25 | trea | succeeded jcamins. jcamins cannot be replaced. |
| 20:25 | jcamins | trea: YoungPublicLibrarian will be working with you. :D |
| 20:25 | cait | :) |
| 20:26 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah I see. lol. I doubt I will. But maybe my director. |
| 20:26 | jcamins | Well, maybe not directly. |
| 20:28 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol Yeah, I'm just a lowly circulation assistant... |
| 20:28 | jcamins | Good for you signing onto #koha to learn about the system! |
| 20:29 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I like to be well prepared. I'm the most tech savy of our little library and so my director is trying to send me to the Koha training classes. But we have over 60 libraries in our consortium and there are only 30 slots of training open. |
| 20:29 | jcamins | Yikes! |
| 20:31 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Yeah...I guess there are having certain people from each group of geographically close libraries go to the training and then have those people go around to the libraries and train everyone else... |
| 20:32 | Okay, off to lunch I go. I'll be back in about forty-five minutes. | |
| 20:33 | wizzyrea | hey that approach works :) |
| 20:40 | YoungPublicLibrarian: which system are you working with? | |
| 20:40 | (library system, that is) | |
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| 21:04 | nengard | if you scan an item that was previously marked lost during inventory will it update the status to available like it does when you check in an item that was lost? |
| 21:09 | found the answer | |
| 21:09 | it does change the statu | |
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| 21:09 | nengard | status |
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| 21:21 | YoungPublicLibrarian | wizzyrea: We are using Voyager right now. Moving to Koha in March/April. |
| 21:21 | wizzyrea | cool, which institution? |
| 21:22 | like, what library system is your library a member of? | |
| 21:24 | grharry | after importing an authorities file with bulkmarcimport ( UNIMARC ) observing the auth_headers table I see a bunch of hardcoded authtypecode values such as FAM, CO_UNI_TI, NP , SAUTTIT, SNC, SNG , TU etc ... could somebody be kind enough to explain what these mean and what is the purpose of their existence .?? |
| 21:25 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Ah I see. We're part of VALnet. |
| 21:25 | wizzyrea | o cool :) |
| 21:28 | YoungPublicLibrarian | yeah, we're excited. Our cataloguer is a little bit upset about it. Seems cataloguing is much more involved in Koha than what she uses now... |
| 21:29 | wizzyrea | meaning "more work" or "much different" |
| 21:29 | or some of both ;) | |
| 21:30 | * wizzyrea | works in the central office of a 40 library consortium, thusly has probably heard most of any complaint your cataloger can come up with re: koha |
| 21:33 | YoungPublicLibrarian | both apparently. Right now she has everything she needs on one screen. When we go to Koha she doesn't like that she has to switch between screens. |
| 21:33 | LOL | |
| 21:34 | wizzyrea | an an anti-tab advocate. ;) |
| 21:36 | YoungPublicLibrarian | My only complaint with it is that it looks cluttered. Mainly cuz the links to Circulation and Check Out and what not are not seperated by anything but white space. Well that and the fact that we have to keep our screen resolution down to 800x600 because everyone else here is over 60... |
| 21:36 | wizzyrea | oooh yea |
| 21:37 | 800x600 = yikes. | |
| 21:38 | so you think on mainpage - it should be separated by something or arranged differently | |
| 21:39 | when it's smooshed all together, I can see why you'd say it looks cluttered ;) | |
| 21:40 | there is an awful lot you can do, that doesn't involve modifying koha directly, to change how it looks. | |
| 21:48 | YoungPublicLibrarian | I think it would look better on our screen if each section had a box around it. The News section already does that. But then the Circulation, Patrons, Search, Lists, Cataloguing, Serials, Acquisitions, Reports, Tools, and About Koha. Maybe just a boarder around them would help... |
| 21:48 | * wizzyrea | ponders |
| 21:50 | jcamins | Eww. What lousy structure. |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | ? |
| 21:51 | oh you mean on mainpage? | |
| 21:51 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 21:51 | wizzyrea | i was just noting that :P |
| 21:51 | it's ... challenging to style accurately ;) | |
| 21:53 | jcamins | Ya think? |
| 21:53 | YoungPublicLibrarian | well, its not really my call anywaies. And wouldn't be a problem if everyone here didn't need glasses...lol |
| 21:54 | wizzyrea | nah, it's nice to have new people going "hey guysssss this is awkward!" |
| 21:54 | because we look at it every day ;) | |
| 21:54 | so we become inured to it's awkwardness | |
| 21:55 | YoungPublicLibrarian | lol |
| 21:55 | wizzyrea | jcamins: a project for a boring day would be to add proper divs to that :P |
| 21:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: how kind of you to volunteer. |
| 21:55 | * jcamins | is too fuzzy-minded. |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | that's what i meant |
| 21:56 | * jcamins | is *much* too fuzzy-minded. :P |
| 21:56 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:56 | dude, it's the weekend where you are | |
| 21:56 | shoo. | |
| 21:57 | jcamins | Heh. |
| 21:57 | YoungPublicLibrarian | Aw, its only friday here...and I have to work tomorrow anywaies... |
| 21:58 | jcamins | It's Friday here too, but in three minutes it'll be after five. |
| 21:59 | YoungPublicLibrarian | ah, it will only be 2 here... |
| 22:01 | jcamins | Myshkin says hi. |
| 22:01 | maximep | yay 5 |
| 22:01 | * maximep | is tired + just got a big beer |
| 22:01 | maximep | not the best working conditions :p |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | maximep: no su after 2! |
| 22:01 | (or 1, if it's a big one :P) | |
| 22:01 | jcamins | wizzyrea: lol |
| 22:02 | maximep | well too late |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | kekekekeke |
| 22:02 | * wizzyrea | will not take responsibility for your drunken system administration. |
| 22:02 | wizzyrea | I warned you ;) |
| 22:03 | maximep | my drunken sysadmin fixed the auth of an alfresco server |
| 22:03 | ... just took me an hour instead of 5 minutes | |
| 22:03 | -_- | |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | lulz |
| 22:06 | * jcamins | ponders fudge. |
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| 22:18 | magnus_pizza | have fun, #koha! |
| 22:18 | wizzyrea | have a good weekend :) |
| 22:18 | magnus_pizza | will do! |
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