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| 00:38 | rangi | sup from melbourne |
| 00:39 | jcamins | Hello! |
| 00:39 | How's the conference going? | |
| 00:40 | rangi | so far so good |
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| 01:20 | jcamins | Ooh! It's Reduced Shakespeare Company time! |
| 01:29 | Myshkin doesn't know what to make of Shakespeare, apparently. | |
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| 03:21 | Space_Librarian | eythian ++ for calming my panicked librarians. |
| 03:21 | eythian | cake'll do that :) |
| 03:21 | jcamins | Mmm. |
| 03:21 | Cake! | |
| 03:21 | * jcamins | is baking cookies. |
| 03:21 | Space_Librarian | cake was good. |
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| 03:30 | Oak | kia ora #koha |
| 03:31 | jcamins | The last batch of cookies is in the oven. |
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| 03:36 | Amit_Gupta | heya bag |
| 03:36 | bag | hey Amit_Gupta |
| 03:53 | jcamins | Good night, #koha. |
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| 04:01 | Space_Librarian | toodle pip all. see you on the flip side. |
| 04:01 | eythian | bye |
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| 05:10 | cait | good morning #koha |
| 05:12 | eythian | hi cait |
| 05:12 | cait | hi eythian :) |
| 05:14 | Amit_Gupta | heya cait, eythian |
| 05:14 | cait | hi Amit_Gupta |
| 05:14 | eythian | hello |
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| 07:20 | alex_a | morning all |
| 07:21 | cait | morning alex_a :) |
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| 07:23 | cait | morning mbalmer |
| 07:23 | mbalmer | hello all! |
| 07:31 | magnuse | kia ora #koha |
| 07:32 | cait | morning magnuse |
| 07:32 | :) | |
| 07:32 | accounting-- | |
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| 07:33 | magnuse | guten morgen cait |
| 07:33 | cait: distance studies? | |
| 07:33 | cait | yeah |
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| 07:37 | magnuse | you have my deepest sympathy :-) |
| 07:37 | @wunder boo | |
| 07:37 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -2.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | yay! |
| 07:37 | @wunder kautokeino | |
| 07:37 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Kautokeino, Norway is -39.0°C (7:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: -42.0°C. Pressure: 30.71 in 1040 hPa (Rising). |
| 07:37 | magnuse | @wunder karasjok |
| 07:37 | huginn` | magnuse: The current temperature in Banak, Norway is -23.0°C (7:50 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 84%. Dew Point: -25.0°C. Windchill: -28.0°C. Pressure: 30.60 in 1036 hPa (Steady). |
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| 07:37 | cait | magnuse: thank you :) |
| 07:38 | morning reiveune :) | |
| 07:38 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 07:38 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -12.2°C (8:34 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -12.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032.1 hPa (Steady). |
| 07:38 | cait | brrrr |
| 07:38 | reiveune | hello cait, magnuse, everybody |
| 07:38 | magnuse | ooh, 10 degrees colder than here! |
| 07:38 | cait | ... beaming to work would be a nice feature today |
| 07:38 | magnuse | bonjour reiveune |
| 07:38 | cait: your employer doesn't offer that service? | |
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| 07:42 | cait | ok, brb |
| 07:42 | magnuse: not yet :) | |
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| 07:50 | Oak | magnuse |
| 07:50 | uh ho, missed cait | |
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| 07:53 | magnuse | Oak |
| 07:53 | she'll be back :-) | |
| 07:57 | Oak | :) |
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| 08:11 | paul_p | good morning #koha |
| 08:11 | gaetan_B | hello |
| 08:11 | wahanui | what's up, gaetan_B |
| 08:11 | gaetan_B | :) |
| 08:11 | magnuse | bonjour france |
| 08:11 | asaurat | hi |
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| 08:22 | magnuse | woohoo, kf made it! |
| 08:22 | kf | it's snowing |
| 08:22 | I looked like a snowman :) | |
| 08:22 | hm snowwoman | |
| 08:22 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 08:22 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 76%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
| 08:22 | magnuse | heh |
| 08:23 | kf | paul_p++ for being picky about inconsistencies :) |
| 08:24 | paul_p | @wunder Marseille, France |
| 08:24 | huginn` | paul_p: The current temperature in Marseille, France is -6.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Windchill: -15.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:24 | paul_p | thx kf |
| 08:24 | kf | paul_p: I always wondered about the right capitalization too |
| 08:24 | most templates are a mix | |
| 08:24 | brrr cold in marseille! | |
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| 08:25 | kf | bonjour sophie_m |
| 08:25 | paul_p | yep, very very very cold. |
| 08:25 | I don't remember having a so low temp here | |
| 08:25 | magnuse | oh wow -6! |
| 08:25 | kf | hm no, it's very very very cold here - you only get 2 very ;) |
| 08:25 | magnuse | paul_p: any snow? |
| 08:25 | paul_p | magnuse 5mm last we |
| 08:26 | in our home. | |
| 08:26 | (center of Marseille) | |
| 08:26 | sorroundings got some cm | |
| 08:26 | * paul_p | start monthly BibLibre board meeting |
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| 08:29 | francharb | good morning |
| 08:29 | kf | morning francharb |
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| 08:41 | mbalmer | here it's so cold that the water pipes in my house froze the second time. |
| 08:42 | kf | ouch :( |
| 08:42 | my favourite cafe was closed too yesterday - frozen pipes | |
| 08:49 | asaurat | brr... -12 in Konstanz :D |
| 08:50 | hi, snowoman :D | |
| 08:50 | kf | heh |
| 08:50 | morning asaurat | |
| 08:50 | * kf | wonders if a snowwoman has super powers |
| 08:51 | Oak | Good Morning kf :) |
| 08:52 | asaurat | has someone here already used the sortmax parameter ? (found in zebra-biblios.cfg) |
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| 09:06 | kf | asaurat: no idea |
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| 09:16 | grharry | Need some hints-help ... a remote z39.50 server Is replying my queries with ISO88597 charset .... how should I configure it ... yaz-client allows me to fiddle the charsets .. how about koha ?? |
| 09:17 | drojf | good day #koha |
| 09:17 | magnuse | grharry: when you add/edit a z39.50 server there is a setting for encoding - try different settings for that |
| 09:17 | hiya drojf | |
| 09:18 | grharry | magnuse: I am sure I did but with no success ... !! :-( |
| 09:19 | drojf | hi magnuse |
| 09:19 | magnuse | grharry: i never got around around to diggin any deeper than that... |
| 09:20 | drojf | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 09:20 | huginn` | drojf: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -11.7°C (10:12 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 55%. Dew Point: -19.0°C. Windchill: -16.0°C. Pressure: 30.75 in 1041.2 hPa (Steady). |
| 09:20 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 09:20 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -12.0°C (10:00 AM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.48 in 1032 hPa (Falling). |
| 09:20 | kf | guten morgen drojf |
| 09:20 | I win again! | |
| 09:20 | drojf | moin kf |
| 09:20 | heh | |
| 09:20 | kf | glad you survived your 'walk' |
| 09:21 | drojf | me too |
| 09:21 | magnuse | next gbsd? |
| 09:21 | wahanui | next gbsd is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
| 09:21 | drojf | was quite cold in the end |
| 09:21 | kf | oh yes |
| 09:21 | tomorrow is gbsd | |
| 09:21 | magnuse | it starts in 40 minutes, kiribati time! |
| 09:21 | kf | yay! |
| 09:22 | * drojf | should have another look at git then perhaps |
| 09:22 | grharry | in fact the only options I am getting in the encoding field of the server are ( UTF-8, MARC-8, euc-kr , and a couple of ISO's ) .... need to access the code ... |
| 09:22 | kf | we can help you :) |
| 09:22 | drojf | :) |
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| 09:24 | asaurat | drojf, you're in Berlin? |
| 09:24 | drojf | yes |
| 09:25 | asaurat | I lived there for a while =) was nice, had two very snowy winters |
| 09:25 | but this one seems to be even worse :D | |
| 09:26 | drojf | yeah berlin is getting better at winter-ing. i remember mostly brownish mud instead of snow, but the last winters were quite harsh. once i have adjusted i like it ;) |
| 09:26 | where did you live in berlin? | |
| 09:27 | asaurat | for 6 months in Schöneberg, then 1 year in Wedding, near Pankstr. |
| 09:30 | drojf | nice, i like wedding. never really had anything to do in schöneberg. berlin is big enough to actually not know all areas :D |
| 09:32 | asaurat | yep, Berlin is huuuge |
| 09:33 | you can find little wonders in surprising places =) | |
| 09:33 | drojf | true :) |
| 09:34 | magnuse | ooh, 2 months an2 weeks until |
| 09:34 | gah | |
| 09:34 | ooh, 2 months, 2 weeks, 1 day until 2012-04-22 | |
| 09:34 | kf | ? |
| 09:34 | oh | |
| 09:34 | yes | |
| 09:34 | time moves fast | |
| 09:34 | magnuse | 22nd april |
| 09:34 | kf | scary |
| 09:35 | magnuse | yeah... |
| 09:35 | kf | next release |
| 09:35 | magnuse | yup |
| 09:35 | drojf | oh |
| 09:35 | kf | so many thigns still waiting for testing... GBSD people! |
| 09:35 | drojf | so many things waiting to be generalized and put in koha by me :/ |
| 09:35 | well not that many actually | |
| 09:39 | irc meeting at 2 utc? brr. | |
| 09:41 | kf | yeah |
| 09:41 | I will be asleep | |
| 09:42 | it's a really really bad time | |
| 09:42 | drojf | either that or asleep the whole following day. i think my boss won't agree |
| 09:42 | kf | I doubt a lot of europeans will be around |
| 09:43 | http://wiki.koha-community.org[…],_8_February_2012 | |
| 09:43 | you can put your apologies there :) | |
| 09:43 | drojf | ah :) |
| 09:43 | will do that. but now i have to get prepared for non-koha work :( | |
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| 09:45 | kf | magnuse++ |
| 09:46 | magnuse | yay |
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| 09:51 | kf | everytime I write sql using biblioitems, I type bilboitems |
| 09:52 | asaurat | lolll |
| 09:53 | drojf | make bilboitems a shortcut for biblioitems ;) |
| 09:53 | magnuse | heh |
| 09:54 | asaurat | SELECT * FROM bilboitems; -> ring, mithril chainmail |
| 09:57 | kf | lol |
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| 10:02 | magnuse | it's on: http://div.libriotech.no/koham[…]ystatus-gbsd9.txt |
| 10:03 | kf | yay :) |
| 10:03 | go kiribati go :) | |
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| 10:19 | drojf | off to work, bye #koha |
| 10:20 | asaurat | tschüss! |
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| 10:53 | sheikh303 | hi there,need help about koha OPAC view! |
| 10:54 | magnuse | ask away sheikh303, someone might be able to help you |
| 10:55 | sheikh303 | i just installed koha.. on my localhost. i want redirect the default login landing page to catalog page/opac view |
| 10:57 | magnuse | so that when a user logs in he lands on the front page, not on "my summary"? |
| 10:59 | sheikh303 | no its not the case.. actually when i hit 127.0.1.1:8080 this returns only a login page |
| 11:00 | magnuse | :8080 is usually the internal part of koha |
| 11:00 | sheikh303 | i want to show the catalog page which is 127.0.0.1:8080/catalog by default. |
| 11:00 | yes | |
| 11:01 | gaetan_B | hello again |
| 11:01 | has anyone ever installed koha on a centos machine ? | |
| 11:02 | is it feasible and if yes is it worth the trouble ? | |
| 11:02 | sheikh303 | @gaetan_B: i just tried few days ago and spent 2 days with several resources. but no luck :( |
| 11:02 | huginn` | sheikh303: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
| 11:02 | paul_p_mtg | gaetan_B someone started a wiki page, but it's not finished I think : http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]n_Centos_6.2_i386 |
| 11:03 | gaetan_B | sheikh303: thanks, keep me informed ! |
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| 11:08 | Amit_Gupta | heya gatetan_B |
| 11:11 | Culiforge | opinion: what's my best option for installing koha on fedora 14? |
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| 11:29 | gaetan_B | matts: pour le vendangeur demain, ce sera possible de suivre à distance éventuellement ? |
| 11:29 | aah sorry wrong channel again ;) | |
| 11:43 | sheikh303 | again koha problem... i am getting a error message on catalog page when not logged out.. according to the opac-main.tt the error message is showing instead of login form |
| 11:43 | any suggestion? | |
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| 12:02 | SHEIKH303 | need help badly!! |
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| 12:27 | tcohen | mornin #koha |
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| 13:22 | kf | @wunder Konstanz |
| 13:22 | huginn` | kf: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -9.0°C (2:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -15.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Falling). |
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| 13:24 | oleonard | Hi bug-squashers |
| 13:25 | jcamins_away | Hm, maybe I'll sign off on some bugs this morning. |
| 13:25 | magnus_afk | hiya oleonard |
| 13:25 | jcamins_away: that would be awesome! | |
| 13:25 | kf | hi jcamins_away and oleonard :) |
| 13:25 | jcamins_away | Not bug 7339, though. |
| 13:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error |
| 13:26 | jcamins_away | I don't have IE9. |
| 13:26 | Just IE8. | |
| 13:26 | * oleonard | neither |
| 13:26 | jcamins_away | Heh. |
| 13:26 | * magnuse | neither |
| 13:26 | jcamins | I just spotted Bug 7501 and was very excited about it. |
| 13:26 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7501 normal, P5 - low, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , OPAC authority browser should mark alternate rows as highlighted |
| 13:26 | jcamins | It's something that I definitely want. |
| 13:27 | I wrote it. | |
| 13:27 | Oops. | |
| 13:27 | oleonard | People plugging their pet patch for potential peer perusal? |
| 13:27 | kf | heh |
| 13:27 | I will try to do some things tonight | |
| 13:27 | in spirit of gbsd in kiribati :) | |
| 13:28 | jcamins | oleonard: if we're doing that, don't forget about bug 7284! |
| 13:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 13:29 | kf | ooh |
| 13:29 | * magnuse | turns on the twitter feeds for gbsd |
| 13:29 | * oleonard | isn't even smart enough to read the bug report for that |
| 13:29 | kf | jcamins: remind me to pack some data |
| 13:29 | later today | |
| 13:29 | oleonard: I am sure that's not true :) | |
| 13:32 | * jcamins | remembers why he hasn't been signing off on things. |
| 13:33 | jcamins | Almost everything is about circ or acquisitions. |
| 13:33 | Or things that I generally don't understand. | |
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| 13:38 | jcamins | There's one. |
| 13:39 | oleonard | That's the way I feel about the authorities bugs jcamins |
| 13:39 | jcamins | oleonard: but there's just one! |
| 13:39 | (that needs sign off) | |
| 13:40 | oleonard | don't confuse me with your big numbers |
| 13:42 | kf | jcamins: I think some are about cataloging |
| 13:42 | bug 6496 | |
| 13:42 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client |
| 13:43 | kf | bug 6851 - that has practically your (or my...) name on it |
| 13:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6851 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , A utility that will search out analytics records and set the MARC header appropriately. |
| 13:43 | kf | bug 6199 |
| 13:43 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
| 13:44 | kf | jcamins: I can those bugs are smiling at you ;) |
| 13:44 | I can see... | |
| 13:47 | now... I scared you all away? | |
| 13:48 | jcamins | kf: no, I'm testing bug 7241. |
| 13:48 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7241 minor, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, adrien.saurat, Needs Signoff , circulation action logs record biblionumber instead of item number |
| 13:48 | jcamins | :P |
| 13:48 | It works partly. | |
| 13:49 | kf | but that's circulation! :) |
| 13:49 | jcamins | That much I can handle. |
| 13:50 | It's the more circulate-y stuff that's a problem. | |
| 13:50 | oleonard | wibbly-wobbly circulatey stuff. |
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| 13:50 | jcamins | Exactly. |
| 13:51 | tcohen | oh, i just noticed its already 8 in some places |
| 13:51 | jcamins | tcohen: it's 8:51am here. |
| 13:51 | * jcamins | realizes you meant the date. |
| 13:51 | drinks more tea. | |
| 13:51 | * tcohen | drinks mate |
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| 13:53 | jcamins | Whoops. |
| 13:53 | I just crashed my VM. | |
| 13:53 | VT0 still works. | |
| 13:54 | Kinda. | |
| 13:54 | * oleonard | keeps forgetting to test a couple of Chrome bugs when he's at home on his Mac... |
| 13:54 | kyle | hello all. |
| 13:54 | oleonard | Hi kyle |
| 13:54 | kf | hi kyle |
| 13:54 | jcamins | Yay! I managed to get my VM to shut down. |
| 13:54 | Good morning kyle. | |
| 13:55 | kyle | I've been testing the patch for Bug 7231. It works great, as long as there is no dollar sign in 020$c. Is it acceptable for Koha to choke when currency symbols are used in price fields? |
| 13:55 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7231 major, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Needs Signoff , ordering from staged file not using price |
| 13:56 | jcamins | kyle: not in my opinion. |
| 13:57 | kyle: but ask kf, because I don't actually know anything about acquisitions. | |
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| 13:57 | kf | kyle: I would note that on the bug, if the standard says you can do that, it should not choke |
| 13:57 | oleonard | What do you mean by "choke?" It should have error-handling at least. |
| 13:58 | kyle | jcamins: I'll do that. Thanks. |
| 13:58 | kf | I mean the marc21 standard |
| 13:58 | kyle | oleonard: it doesn't really choke, it just doesn't pull the price over. You get an empty field instead of the price. |
| 13:58 | kf | we probably need it to search for numbers, and decimal , and decimal . |
| 13:59 | kyle | I suppose in a way it is a graceful failure, because you can really put anything you want in there, it's not limited to a single dollar value anyway. |
| 13:59 | kf | kyle: about 345 - that looks weird, perhaps unimarc? |
| 14:00 | but it should check the syspref if that is the case | |
| 14:00 | jcamins | kf: the currency symbol is usually included in 020. |
| 14:00 | kf: I think that's RDA. | |
| 14:00 | kyle | Not unimarc either, I don't know why it's in there. Paul wrote the code. |
| 14:00 | jcamins | No, maybe not. |
| 14:00 | kf | it is, but not related to price |
| 14:00 | jcamins | 365 is price. |
| 14:00 | kf | kyle: wonder why there is no UNIMARC/MARC21 thing |
| 14:00 | same field? | |
| 14:01 | http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd345.html | |
| 14:01 | kyle | In the sub it uses 020 for marc21, and 010 for unimarc. |
| 14:01 | kf | I think that is failed qa |
| 14:01 | oleonard: ok with me reopening 2780? | |
| 14:01 | kyle | but that is not directly related to the patch in question. |
| 14:01 | kf | bug 2780 |
| 14:01 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2780 minor, P3, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, capitalizing strings |
| 14:01 | oleonard | Yes |
| 14:02 | * oleonard | didn't even know it was closed |
| 14:02 | kf | I didn't even know it existed :) |
| 14:02 | I wondered about the capitalization for some time | |
| 14:02 | it's very mixed up right now | |
| 14:02 | * oleonard | had it filed in the corner of his brain for nagging open bugs he didn't want to deal with |
| 14:02 | kf | heh |
| 14:03 | example: advanced search | |
| 14:03 | we have | |
| 14:03 | [More options] [New Search] | |
| 14:03 | Publication Date Range: | |
| 14:03 | Location and availability | |
| 14:03 | Publisher Location | |
| 14:03 | oleonard | I agree 100%, and am personally to blame for much of it. |
| 14:03 | kf | I don't want to blame anyone - I only want a rule to follow! |
| 14:04 | so next time I am working on those templates... I know which is the right form! :) | |
| 14:04 | Advanced Search | Browse by author or subject | Tag Cloud | |
| 14:05 | oleonard: does the rule always work? that the first word should be capitalized? | |
| 14:05 | and names and languages, countries (of course) | |
| 14:05 | oleonard | I think so. If we find what we think is an exception we can discuss. |
| 14:07 | kf | Perhaps starting in the opac would not be a bad idea |
| 14:07 | making it more consistent carefullly | |
| 14:10 | jcamins | safari-- |
| 14:10 | oleonard | kf: Now I notice all the inconsistencies in Bugzilla's interface ;) |
| 14:10 | kf | heh |
| 14:13 | oleonard | What's Safari doing jcamins, besides being awkward to use and generally annoying? |
| 14:13 | jcamins | oleonard: it doesn't like :8080 |
| 14:14 | And rather than simply complaining or something, it pretends it's busy. | |
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| 14:15 | jcamins | Good morning lculber! |
| 14:15 | lculber | jcamins: you said to call if I needed help. HELP!! Do I install indexing mode for authorities as dom? |
| 14:16 | jcamins | Yup. |
| 14:16 | If you're doing a new installation, you should apply the patch for bug 7284 first, then do the installation. | |
| 14:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 14:16 | jcamins | That'll save you a reindexing step later. ;) |
| 14:17 | lculber | thanks. I thought I saw the patch, but in the git but maybe not. I'll make clean start over. |
| 14:17 | jcamins | If you're part-way through the installation process, it's pretty easy to copy the new DOM config over manually and reindex. |
| 14:19 | lculber | I need the easiest way possible. Which would you recommend. |
| 14:19 | jcamins | Have you put any data in the database yet? |
| 14:19 | lculber | No. I'm just starting the install now |
| 14:19 | jcamins | In that case, the easiest way is to apply the patch, then rerun the installation. |
| 14:20 | lculber | Got it. Thanks. I'll come back if I need more help. Thanks. |
| 14:20 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 14:20 | Good luck. :) | |
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| 14:34 | oleonard | I found a computer here with IE9 if someone could set up a web-accessible demo with the patch applied |
| 14:34 | Bug 7339 I mean. | |
| 14:34 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, paul.poulain, Needs Signoff , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error |
| 14:34 | oleonard | Although it looks like it's still not working in IE7 or IE8, according to the report? |
| 14:38 | paul_p_mtg | oleonard if you want to setup an accessible demo => try test5 sandbox !!! |
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| 14:42 | oleonard | Okay paul_p_mtg, I will try it |
| 14:42 | paul_p_mtg | oleonard thx, and report the result here or by mail ! |
| 14:44 | kf | paul_p_mtg: still meeting? |
| 14:44 | wahanui | meeting is, like, in ~30 minutes |
| 14:44 | kf | forget meeting |
| 14:44 | wahanui | kf: I forgot meeting |
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| 14:50 | jcamins | sekjal: is the use of MD5 for bug 6874 a sufficiently serious issue that I shouldn't bother testing and should just mark it failed qa? |
| 14:50 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
| 14:50 | * jcamins | doesn't really understand what the issue with md5 is. All hashes have a theoretical risk of collision. |
| 14:50 | kf | jcamins++ busy! |
| 14:50 | jcamins | :) |
| 14:50 | kf | only not for the bugs I suggested :P |
| 14:51 | paul_p_mtg | kf yep, still meeting (for 10-20 more minuts) |
| 14:51 | sekjal | jcamins: will need to read up on it |
| 14:52 | jcamins | kf: most of those I wasn't testing because I didn't really know how to respond. |
| 14:52 | And I don't want to fail things because I envision something different. | |
| 14:53 | kf | hm |
| 14:53 | jcamins | sekjal: I'll test it and sign off on the functionality. |
| 14:54 | paul_p_mtg | jcamins I don't think it's a serious enough issue. So I agree with you |
| 14:54 | jcamins | Okay, better run to catch the bus. |
| 14:54 | Back in a few. | |
| 14:54 | paul_p_mtg: great. | |
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| 14:54 | jcamins | It's a pretty cool feature, now that it's DB-based. |
| 15:02 | sekjal | agreed that any hash will have a chance of conflict; it's a limited (though vast) space, and it's very hashy nature means that you cannot uniquely determine a value based on it's hash alone |
| 15:02 | SHA1 would give us a larger space, but not any solution to the fundamental problem | |
| 15:03 | I think 2^128 possible values is probably enough for any library | |
| 15:03 | * wizzyrea | waves |
| 15:04 | kf | hi wizzyrea :) |
| 15:06 | sekjal | hi, wizzyrea. hi, kf |
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| 15:06 | wizzyrea | heya sekjal :) |
| 15:07 | kf | hi sekjal :) |
| 15:08 | how is the new job? | |
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| 15:17 | sekjal | kf: pretty good |
| 15:18 | working on web accessibility and mobile design a lot lately | |
| 15:18 | oleonard | Sounds like fun |
| 15:19 | kf | :) |
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| 15:21 | sekjal | oleonard: it is |
| 15:22 | really want to do a mobile staff client for Koha | |
| 15:22 | though I'd probably need to compile it for various platforms, instead of run it as a web app | |
| 15:24 | oleonard | Why? |
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| 15:25 | paul_p | meeting ended |
| 15:25 | * paul_p | try to understand why test5 reaches a webinstaller page... (oleonard, it was probably you) |
| 15:25 | oleonard | Yes, I was just about to ask |
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| 15:27 | * paul_p | has forgotten to automatically run updatedatabase ! how could I forget that !!! |
| 15:27 | paul_p | so the sample database has a lower number as Koha. |
| 15:27 | I was sure to have written the code to fix this... | |
| 15:27 | s/fix/deal with/ | |
| 15:28 | oleonard which database did you choose ? | |
| 15:28 | MARC21 ? or "no change" ? | |
| 15:28 | oleonard | "no change" |
| 15:28 | paul_p | OK, that's it. If you choose "no change", then the DB is not updated ! |
| 15:28 | at all | |
| 15:29 | so, last night a commit has updated the code, but not the database | |
| 15:29 | * paul_p | fixes that |
| 15:30 | paul_p | oleonard I just retried, you should get another mail, we will see if it work better |
| 15:30 | oleonard | Thanks |
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| 15:32 | oleonard | paul_p++ |
| 15:32 | paul_p | OK, problem fixed it seems |
| 15:32 | sekjal | oleonard: I want access to the mobile device's camera for barcode scanning, and that's really tough to do reliably through the browser |
| 15:33 | oleonard | sekjal: Very true. |
| 15:33 | wahanui | I know. That's why I said it. |
| 15:34 | sekjal | oleonard: I'm envisioning Inventory and Rebarcoding as two of the major mobile functions |
| 15:36 | jcamins_away | Hm. bug 6874 fails qa. :( |
| 15:36 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6874 enhancement, P3, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , File upload in MARC |
| 15:36 | magnus_afk | oy! http://www.libcatcode.org/ |
| 15:38 | oleonard | 90 seconds with IE9 and I want to punch it in the face. |
| 15:42 | wizzyrea | hm, like stack overflow for catalogers? |
| 15:44 | gaetan_B | anyone knows what the default settings are when configuring Koha as a z39.50 target? |
| 15:45 | i mean for port, login/password, database... and wether this is something that can be edited ? | |
| 15:45 | jcamins_away | It's configurable in koha_conf.xml. |
| 15:45 | gaetan_B | *whether |
| 15:45 | jcamins_away | Look for "publicserver". |
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| 15:45 | gaetan_B | hmmm thanks jcamins_away ;) |
| 15:51 | jcamins_away | kf: signed off on bug 6496. |
| 15:51 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6496 major, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , authors appearing incorrectly in OPAC and Staff Client |
| 15:51 | jcamins_away | I thought it was a different bug. |
| 15:53 | And you wanted me to sign off on bug 6199... | |
| 15:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6199 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, robin, Needs Signoff , Allow bulkmarcimport to blank duplicate barcodes rather than skipping items |
| 15:53 | jcamins_away | Hm. Heading into a tunnel. |
| 15:53 | kf | oh, on a train? |
| 15:54 | jcamins_away | Bus. |
| 15:54 | kf | jcamins++ anyway |
| 15:54 | jcamins_away | I'll be back from uptown. |
| 15:54 | kf | signing off on a bus |
| 15:54 | is quite impressive | |
| 15:54 | jcamins_away | :) |
| 15:58 | wizzyrea | oleonard - i'm looking at 5280 - when I try to add a patron I get Template process failed: file error - parse error - /home/liz/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/memberentrygen.tt line 1480: unexpected end of input at /home/liz/kohaclone/C4/Templates.pm line 126. |
| 15:58 | oleonard | :( |
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| 15:59 | wizzyrea | :( indeed |
| 15:59 | * kf | offers cookies |
| 15:59 | can't stand the sad smileys | |
| 15:59 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 15:59 | * wizzyrea | turns the frown upside down |
| 16:02 | * oleonard | thinks the GBSD tweet bot might not be working correctly with new Bugzilla statuses? |
| 16:02 | wizzyrea | ooo probably a good pt |
| 16:02 | * magnus_afk | fears oleonard is right |
| 16:03 | magnus_afk | but not have time to fix it in the near future |
| 16:03 | *might not | |
| 16:06 | paul_p | bug 5280 |
| 16:06 | wahanui | bug 5280 is, like, cool, finishing testing it for sign off |
| 16:06 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5280 normal, P4, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Fix password field in members.pl so that the password is masked as it is entered |
| 16:07 | paul_p | iirc I had the same problem, some time ago, was it with this bug ? not sure. |
| 16:07 | it's usually a missing [% END %] in the template | |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | ^^ let me see if I can find where it's missing. oleonard may beat me though. |
| 16:08 | er | |
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| 16:08 | wizzyrea | beat me to it, that is |
| 16:08 | I hope he doesn't beat me. | |
| 16:08 | oleonard | If you want to wizzyrea. You can also fail it if you need to. |
| 16:08 | Oh I see you did :) | |
| 16:08 | wizzyrea | but I may still try to find the problem ^.^ |
| 16:09 | * wizzyrea | runs in circles "I'M HELPING!" |
| 16:09 | also runs in circles shouting "Test plans! Test plans!" | |
| 16:10 | oleonard | I wonder, in light of Bug 7339, whether we need to re-think how we handle contextual help |
| 16:10 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339 critical, P5 - low, ---, paul.poulain, Signed Off , Help System in IE8-9 Does Not Load With 500 Error |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | are people actually using the ability to edit that help? |
| 16:11 | kf | it gets overwritten with update |
| 16:11 | wizzyrea | then no, probably not. |
| 16:11 | kf | and the directories have the wrong permissions when installing |
| 16:12 | in my experience | |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | same |
| 16:12 | kf | so you have to change the permissions... and save them from being overwritten |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | which means that if we want to keep them |
| 16:12 | they probably need to move to somewhere like /etc/ | |
| 16:12 | oleonard | Sounds like a pretty sucky feature :P |
| 16:12 | kf | the idea is good... |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | yea, the idea *is* good |
| 16:12 | kf | perhaps the way to do it is wrong |
| 16:12 | wizzyrea | but I think the help should probably be kept in the db? |
| 16:12 | kf | and it would be like a small cms |
| 16:13 | saved in the database | |
| 16:13 | and you could add custom sections.. that would be save when updating | |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | we already have that kind of functionality with "news" |
| 16:13 | kf | yep |
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| 16:13 | kf | I was exactly thinking about news :) |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | great minds :) |
| 16:13 | kf | the problem witht hat is... that database stuff is not translatable |
| 16:13 | *sigh* | |
| 16:13 | wizzyrea | well |
| 16:13 | the sample strings would be translatable? | |
| 16:14 | kf | translating in sql is very hard |
| 16:14 | and it's a lot of text | |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | ah yea ok |
| 16:14 | so | |
| 16:14 | kf | a way to parse them into a separate po file.. that would be kinda cool |
| 16:14 | wizzyrea | well how could we do it so that it would be easier to translate, but still ... ^^ this |
| 16:14 | kf | I think magnuse was fighting translating the help :) |
| 16:14 | you could save it for last, starting with the interface | |
| 16:15 | with separate files | |
| 16:16 | wizzyrea | what about |
| 16:16 | if in the translation script | |
| 16:16 | when you install a language | |
| 16:16 | it dumps out the help from the db into a .po file | |
| 16:16 | then you "install" the new help | |
| 16:16 | when you're done | |
| 16:16 | kf | hm |
| 16:17 | I am not sure this wil work | |
| 16:17 | you will still want all versions | |
| 16:17 | wizzyrea | keep in mind, I've got no idea how it actually works. |
| 16:17 | kf | installing a language should use the po file to generate sql to write that into your database |
| 16:17 | ah | |
| 16:17 | but | |
| 16:17 | perhaps we could just keep the text files | |
| 16:17 | as is | |
| 16:18 | and add a text block you can edit to them | |
| 16:18 | on top | |
| 16:18 | might be easier | |
| 16:18 | so you can make additions... | |
| 16:18 | wizzyrea | or, instead of |
| 16:18 | writing to the files | |
| 16:18 | keep the extra stuff in the db | |
| 16:18 | and display it along with the stuff that gets updated | |
| 16:18 | so your changes are always preserved | |
| 16:19 | but the help could change around it | |
| 16:19 | does that make sense? | |
| 16:20 | we may be saying the same thing | |
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| 16:33 | wizzyrea | sekjal - question about 7144 |
| 16:33 | i'm having trouble getting the hold policy rules to save now | |
| 16:33 | oh... wait | |
| 16:33 | I bet I know | |
| 16:33 | nm :) | |
| 16:34 | sekjal | :) |
| 16:34 | wizzyrea | reading++ |
| 16:34 | :) | |
| 16:37 | jcamins | wizzyrea: speaking of test plans, there's one for bug 7284! |
| 16:37 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | woot! |
| 16:38 | * jcamins | runs around in circles shouting "Authority matching! Authority matching!" |
| 16:38 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 16:39 | sekjal: one more question | |
| 16:39 | kf | wizzyrea: yep, we are saying the same :) |
| 16:39 | sorry | |
| 16:39 | covered in tickets here... | |
| 16:40 | wizzyrea | do you know if the new floating rules fall victim to the same issue that the other hold policy rules do, in that they don't fall back correctly (i.e. every library must have them defined for an item type for it to work across all branches/patron categories/item types) |
| 16:40 | I'm going to assume that problem still exists. | |
| 16:40 | kf | no idea |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | that was for sekjal :) |
| 16:41 | sekjal | wizzyrea: I believe that problem is resolved |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | with this patch or in general |
| 16:41 | sekjal | I remember testing with default library rules only, and having it work |
| 16:41 | my patch didn't change any mechanics for the hold policies in general | |
| 16:41 | wizzyrea | k |
| 16:42 | sekjal | just piggybacked on what already existed |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | k |
| 16:42 | cool | |
| 16:42 | ty | |
| 16:42 | sekjal | if you can verify that, it would bring us all peace of mind |
| 16:42 | wizzyrea | I'll try :) |
| 16:44 | oleonard i love that floating save button | |
| 16:44 | in cataloging. | |
| 16:44 | so handy. | |
| 16:45 | oleonard | Thanks. I still forget it's there and scroll to the top to look for it. |
| 16:46 | wizzyrea | I also still like the add item screen |
| 16:46 | nice when you have zillions of items. | |
| 16:48 | reiveune | bye |
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| 16:50 | jcamins | Floating save button in cataloging? |
| 16:50 | * jcamins | hasn't noticed that yet. |
| 16:50 | wizzyrea | it sticks to the top of the screen when you scroll down |
| 16:50 | so no matter where you are | |
| 16:50 | scroll-wise | |
| 16:50 | the save button is always visible | |
| 16:50 | jcamins | Very cool. |
| 17:00 | oleonard | Where the heck did all my lists go? |
| 17:00 | jcamins | oleonard: uh-oh. |
| 17:00 | oleonard: what patch did you just test? | |
| 17:01 | oleonard | Can't have been the patch I just tested--no database update. |
| 17:02 | The last database update I tested was probably my own | |
| 17:02 | ...which is good news for everyone else. | |
| 17:03 | * jcamins | will not test that one until you've tracked down the problem. |
| 17:05 | sekjal | lunch! |
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| 17:10 | wizzyrea | no, the thing where all branches must have a rule for an itemtype hold limit to be honored is still there. |
| 17:10 | it's ok, not part of this bug | |
| 17:10 | but will need to be documented. | |
| 17:12 | magnus_afk | hey, we're down to 71 needs signoff - that's awesome! |
| 17:12 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 17:18 | kf | yes it is! |
| 17:18 | awesome I mean :) | |
| 17:18 | bye all :) | |
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| 17:21 | * oleonard | feels like all he's doing today is shooting things down |
| 17:21 | sekjal | oleonard: same here |
| 17:23 | slef | Connecting...error = System (lower-layer) error: Connection timed out |
| 17:24 | sekjal | if anyone can test bug 6273 (requires SIP), I'd greatly appreciate it |
| 17:24 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6273 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , SIP2 Fee Paid and Fee Paid Response support |
| 17:24 | slef | ok, getting that from zebrasrv. What have I overlooked? |
| 17:28 | bag | bug 7458 |
| 17:28 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7458 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Failed QA , New call number allocation plugin |
| 17:30 | slef | what I'd overlooked was the unix: prefix on the socket filename |
| 17:39 | jcamins | paul_p: why are we using HTML4? |
| 17:39 | paul_p | hehe... HTML4 is the 4th HTML coding guideline ! |
| 17:39 | not HTML4 standard ;-) | |
| 17:40 | jcamins | Oh. |
| 17:40 | Okay. | |
| 17:40 | That's good. | |
| 17:51 | slef | needs a better name |
| 17:51 | paul_p | OK, ttl |
| 18:04 | oleonard | sekjal still around? |
| 18:05 | sekjal | oleonard: yes |
| 18:05 | oleonard | I have a question about Bug 7408 |
| 18:05 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7408 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha.sekjal, Needs Signoff , Expire holds that have been waiting too long |
| 18:05 | oleonard | I've run the new script successfully: expiration dates updated, fines set. |
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| 18:06 | cait | hi #koha |
| 18:06 | oleonard | But the expiration date is set to today, and the cancel_expired_holds script only cancels holds with expiration date less than today. |
| 18:06 | wizzyrea | wb cait |
| 18:06 | oleonard | So if you run expire_holds_over.pl, then cancel_expired_holds.pl, then expire_holds_over.pl again, you get double-fines |
| 18:06 | cait | thx wizzyrea |
| 18:07 | it's brrr outside | |
| 18:07 | jcamins | wb cait. |
| 18:07 | cait | thx jcamins |
| 18:07 | oleonard | I realize it won't normally be run in quick succession like that |
| 18:07 | cait | @wunder Konstanz |
| 18:07 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is -10.0°C (7:00 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.49 in 1032 hPa (Rising). |
| 18:08 | sekjal | oleonard: interesting... |
| 18:08 | wahanui | interesting is probably good |
| 18:09 | sekjal | the idea was that this would be a nightly cronjob |
| 18:09 | but it should dovetail better with the behaviour of cancel_expired_holds.pl | |
| 18:09 | oleonard | Is there any reason why the new script shouldn't set the expiration date to yesterday? |
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| 18:11 | sekjal | oleonard: or it could run with >= instead of > |
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| 18:17 | cait | hmm |
| 18:17 | sekjal: I am spotting some things on 7420 I am wondering about | |
| 18:17 | bug 7420 | |
| 18:17 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7420 enhancement, PATCH-Sent (DO NOT USE), ---, srdjan, Signed Off , Add max fines to circulation matrix |
| 18:17 | cait | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]hment.cgi?id=7487 |
| 18:17 | I see some warns there | |
| 18:17 | those will show up in the logs, right? | |
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| 18:18 | sekjal | cait: I think so, but I don't know for sure |
| 18:18 | cait | should I note on the bug? |
| 18:19 | sekjal | yes |
| 18:20 | cait | ok |
| 18:24 | * cait | was only looking at it because working on fines and notices today ... :( |
| 18:25 | sekjal | cait++ |
| 18:26 | cait | should go and make dinner |
| 18:27 | slef | koha-kobli? |
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| 18:28 | slef | anyone know about koha-kobli? I forget if it's public or a fork or what |
| 18:28 | jcamins | It's a fork that they keep on promising to release, I think. |
| 18:32 | slef | ok, I'll push back on linkedin |
| 18:32 | jcamins | I could be mistaken. |
| 18:35 | slef | http://kobli.bage.es/descargas-kobli/ has some downloads |
| 18:35 | all zipfiles and pdfs | |
| 18:35 | obscuraware | |
| 18:36 | downloading | |
| 18:37 | Spanish for tree, anyone? | |
| 18:37 | * jcamins | doesn't know Spanish, sorry. |
| 18:37 | slef | aborl |
| 18:38 | arból even | |
| 18:38 | hey I don't either, why should that excuse you? ;) | |
| 18:39 | http://git.berlios.de/cgi-bin/[…]p=kobli;a=summary | |
| 18:40 | 2011-07-15 last update | |
| 18:51 | Culiforge | Does anyone know if there is a koha rpm for fedora? |
| 18:54 | jcamins | Culiforge: there is not. |
| 18:56 | Culiforge | jcamins: thx, saw someone on fed boards say there was a YUM repo for it for CentOS in which they also said that cent and fedora enterprise were the "same' |
| 18:56 | figured I'd check here with the knowledgeable folks | |
| 18:56 | jcamins | Culiforge: maybe I'm wrong, then. |
| 18:56 | However, to the best of my knowledge, the last RPM was for 3.0. | |
| 18:57 | cait | wizzyrea: do you remember which menus were broken after applying the translation patch? |
| 18:58 | Culiforge | so then my next question, the boss wants koha on fedora 14.. wiki has instructions for fed 7. what's best method in your opinions for installing.. |
| 18:59 | jcamins | Culiforge: persuade him to use Debian. |
| 18:59 | Barring that, run Debian using kvm. | |
| 18:59 | Culiforge | jcamins: wish I could.. he's hooked on fedora because of rpmtools |
| 19:00 | jcamins | Doesn't kvm let you run Fedora but also run Debian? |
| 19:04 | Culiforge | jcamins: I asked around in the Fedora forums this morning for some advice and got soundly thrashed for it.. Makes me wanna dump Fedora right now if that's any indication of what their community is like |
| 19:05 | jcamins | Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH. |
| 19:05 | Culiforge | jcamins: I'll have to talk to the boss-man/fedora-man about it.. he seems to think it's easy-peasy |
| 19:07 | sekjal | Culiforge: I can tell you from experience that RedHat installations are an absolute nightmare (if not flat out impossible). Not sure how much of that applies to Fedora |
| 19:08 | Culiforge | sekjal: thanks for the heads up |
| 19:10 | sekjal | Culiforge: you're welcome. best of luck |
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| 19:11 | slef | it is possible but no, not fun |
| 19:12 | lculber | jcamins here? |
| 19:12 | slef | after using apt and dpkg, yum and rpm feel like doing your own dentistry |
| 19:12 | oleonard | jcamins is always here, especially when he says he isn't. |
| 19:12 | slef | @seen jcamins |
| 19:12 | huginn` | slef: jcamins was last seen in #koha 7 minutes and 39 seconds ago: <jcamins> Culiforge: I haven't heard anything good about installing Koha on Fedora/RH. |
| 19:13 | slef | bbl |
| 19:13 | lculber | Is anyone else testing 7824? |
| 19:14 | oleonard | Check that bug number lculber |
| 19:14 | sekjal | bug 7284 |
| 19:14 | wahanui | bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 19:14 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:15 | lculber | I'm testing 7824 and have a question, but will check back. I'm a rank beginner but trying. |
| 19:17 | jcamins | lculber: I'm here now. |
| 19:17 | Having a late lunhc. :) | |
| 19:17 | *lunch | |
| 19:20 | lculber | jcamins: In patch testing plan setting up patch, the first part seems to be already there now. Found all files except file supposed to run installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1 |
| 19:20 | Can I still proceed. Everything else looks right. | |
| 19:21 | jcamins | If that file isn't there, the patch probably hasn't been applied correctly. |
| 19:21 | wizzyrea | ^^ |
| 19:21 | jcamins | The other files that are called for are required for all Koha installations, it just so happens that they have to be updated by the patch. |
| 19:22 | The following commands should take care of the installation: | |
| 19:22 | Actually, I'll use paste.koha-community.org (one moment while I paste them) | |
| 19:24 | lculber | All your nice settings are in the system preferences. I was so excited. :( |
| 19:24 | jcamins | Oh, they are? |
| 19:24 | Hm. | |
| 19:25 | If they show up in the system preferences, the problem is probably a typo in my instructions. | |
| 19:25 | If you run git log, does it show a *really long* commit message about bug 7284? | |
| 19:25 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:26 | lculber | yes, it is really long |
| 19:26 | jcamins | Okay, good. |
| 19:26 | lculber | Not sure it is all there though |
| 19:27 | jcamins | What we wanted to check was that there was a long message. |
| 19:27 | If it's not very short, it's the right patch, and installed correctly. :) | |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea: there's apparently an error in my test plan. | |
| 19:27 | * wizzyrea | gasps |
| 19:27 | schuster | schuster gasps! |
| 19:27 | wizzyrea | my mental image of your perfection has been shattered! |
| 19:27 | wait... no, it's fine. | |
| 19:28 | ^.^ | |
| 19:28 | jcamins | lculber: in that case, yeah, you can just continue with your tests. :) |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | nice test plan (seriously) |
| 19:29 | lculber | you all need to remember that I'm not only a rank beginner but a total klutz, so if there is an error it is probably mine. |
| 19:29 | wizzyrea | hehe - mistakes, we all make them. |
| 19:29 | is why we TEST ALL THE THINGS | |
| 19:29 | jcamins | Well, that and who doesn't like running the authority linker over and over and over? |
| 19:30 | wizzyrea | http://troll.me/test-all-the-things/ |
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| 19:31 | lculber | I'm going to try forging ahead. If it doesn't work, I'll try reinstalling the patch. How's that sound? |
| 19:31 | jcamins | That makes sense. |
| 19:31 | If you're seeing the sysprefs, though, you have it all set up properly. :) | |
| 19:31 | lculber | Okay. Here I go. |
| 19:33 | jcamins | Who looks at the rectangular selection tool in Photoshop and says "ah-ha! We should call that the "marquee tool"? |
| 19:34 | wizzyrea | why not call it the "rectangular selection tool" |
| 19:34 | lculber | spoke too soon. Was setting my system prefernces and some seem to be missing, so I think something got garbled. Can you post how to fix? |
| 19:34 | jcamins | wizzyrea: that's my question! |
| 19:35 | lculber: hm. What's the output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate | |
| 19:35 | wizzyrea | this is me hoping that you didn't do that on your production system ^.^ |
| 19:39 | lculber | opps - senior moment. forgot where the paste thing is. The output of ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate is 10 lines long |
| 19:40 | jcamins | http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
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| 19:41 | pastebot | "lculber" at 205.144.231.36 pasted "ls ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/245 |
| 19:41 | jcamins | Yeah, typo on my part it looks like. |
| 19:41 | Run: perl ~/kohaclone/installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_linking_pt1 | |
| 19:42 | schuster | Get it all square - I'm working on getting a "testing" machine setup - I'm stripping all my data and loading only 50,000 bibs so it will be manageable. |
| 19:43 | jcamins - did you want my Auth and biblio? I extracted the screens as you instructed so could provide you my full data if you want them still. | |
| 19:43 | pastebot | "lculber" at 205.144.231.36 pasted "perl output" (3 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/246 |
| 19:43 | jcamins | lculber: Ah! You need to set KOHA_CONF and PERL5LIB. |
| 19:43 | As follows: | |
| 19:44 | export KOHA_CONF=/home/lculber/koha-dev/etc/koha-conf.xml | |
| 19:44 | export PERL5LIB=/home/lculber/kohaclone | |
| 19:44 | Then rerun. | |
| 19:44 | schuster: At this point I'm having other people test so that we can get the improved linking into Koha ASAP, so there's probably no point in sending it. | |
| 19:46 | schuster | Sorry I've been so behind in helping test... I finally found my usb drives to help me move files around here at the office! For me to do testing and interact I have to do it at home right now so it is a pain. Needs to look into what it would take to open stuff here at the office. |
| 19:47 | jcamins | That's okay. |
| 19:47 | lculber | Success! Upgrade done (Configured bug 7284, improved authority matching) |
| 19:47 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 19:47 | jcamins | Woohoo! |
| 19:48 | Now you just play with the options and see if it does what you want! :) | |
| 19:48 | Then, when it does (I'm being optimistic), you can sign off. :) | |
| 19:48 | You may want to add those two export... lines to your ~/.profile file, so that they're always set. | |
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| 19:49 | lculber | I did know better. I just messed up. They are actually in koha_test |
| 19:49 | my bad. | |
| 19:50 | jcamins | We all do that sort of thing. That's what #koha is for. |
| 19:50 | Well, that and discussing food. | |
| 19:50 | lculber | So I need to reinstall yet again, right? |
| 19:50 | jcamins | Nope. |
| 19:51 | * magnus_afk | perks up at the mention of food |
| 19:51 | jcamins | Now you just try the linker. |
| 19:52 | magnus_afk: the cookies I made yesterday came out very tasty. | |
| 19:53 | magnus_afk | jcamins: yay! |
| 19:53 | i'll take your word for it | |
| 19:54 | * oleonard | tests an acquisitions bug by ordering "Netscape 2 simplified" |
| 19:56 | * jcamins | wonders how long it will be before he encounters a collector who actually collects that sort of book. |
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| 19:56 | magnus_afk | o/ |
| 19:57 | lculber | jcamins: all links same Duplicate entry - so were already there from first time run? |
| 19:57 | sorry. All lines say Duplicate entry for key 'PRIMARY | |
| 19:57 | jcamins | Ah. |
| 19:57 | Yes, that means it installed properly. | |
| 19:58 | (previously) | |
| 20:05 | schuster | jcamins what type of cookies did you make? |
| 20:05 | jcamins | schuster: my family calls them "sandtarts," but they're not the same as everyone else's "sandtarts." |
| 20:05 | schuster | about time druthb_away joined Koha LOL.... |
| 20:06 | Never heard of one what is that? | |
| 20:06 | Just looked it up they remind me of the italian wedding cookie... hummmm. | |
| 20:08 | jcamins | They're chocolate chip cookies with a bit of lemon extract and no baking soda or baking powder. |
| 20:08 | Very tasty. | |
| 20:08 | I've never had what most people call "sandtarts." | |
| 20:08 | Right, those are nothing like what I made. | |
| 20:10 | Really easy recipe: 1 c. butter, 1-1/4 c. sugar, 1 tsp. vanilla extract, 1 tsp. lemon extract, 1 egg, 2 c. flour, 1 c. chocolate chips. Bake 7-9 min at 350F | |
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| 20:12 | jcamins | They're favorites, as you could probably tell from the way I could give you the recipe off the top of my head. |
| 20:12 | oleonard | I'm still looking for comments on Bug 7493 if any database-savvy folks care to look |
| 20:12 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7493 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Deleting a record with comments breaks "Recent Comments" |
| 20:15 | cait | oleonard: your logic made sense to me - only not sure if a null borrowernumber will make problems somewhere? |
| 20:15 | display in opac/moderating comments/recent comments | |
| 20:16 | oleonard | Yes, of course the next step will be to find and fix those problems. |
| 20:16 | lculber | jcamins: I have data in the database. Would that have everything off? |
| 20:17 | jcamins | lculber: it defaults to exactly the way it behaves now. |
| 20:18 | So it'll be set to LinkerRelink = on, and the others off. | |
| 20:19 | schuster | So is there an easy way to see bugs needing sign off? |
| 20:19 | jcamins | lculber: you can try setting it just to the combination of settings that you think is most appropriate for *your* data, though, to start with. |
| 20:19 | schuster: I'm glad you asked! | |
| 20:19 | There is indeed. | |
| 20:19 | Uh-oh. | |
| 20:19 | Is bugs.k-c.org down? | |
| 20:19 | schuster | jcamins so you just mix together and bake? just a regular cookie? |
| 20:19 | jcamins | schuster: yup. |
| 20:20 | sekjal | schuster: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]d=1&list_id=21309 |
| 20:20 | schuster | thanks sekjal |
| 20:21 | jcamins | lculber: the link_bibs_to_authorities.pl task is now much faster, so you could even try lots of different combinations to see what works best for you. |
| 20:21 | lculber: you could also just work through the test plan, actually, since that will test almost every possibility. | |
| 20:29 | lculber | jcamins: I just did a quick reinstall - took 2 minutes - just to see. I'm working through your test instructions again now |
| 20:31 | jcamins | lculber: this is a particularly large patch- once you've gotten through the signing off procedure on this one, you should be pretty much comfortable to sign off on anything you're interested in. :) |
| 20:32 | cait | heh |
| 20:33 | lculber | jcamins: the setting up patch instructions went just as they should this time so, I think the patch did NOT install correctly the first time. |
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| 20:34 | lculber | jcamins: Since I already have biblios and authorities in the database, do I need to run zebra indexing before or after running misc/migration_tools/rebuild_zebra.pl -a -r |
| 20:35 | opps that didn't make sense, did it? Duh! | |
| 20:35 | jcamins | lculber: not really, no. |
| 20:35 | :) | |
| 20:36 | schuster | jcamins - do you have to have it indexed before you do the linking? |
| 20:36 | jcamins | schuster: yes. |
| 20:36 | schuster: well, the authorities have to be indexed. | |
| 20:36 | schuster | OK thanks |
| 20:36 | jcamins | How else could the linker find them. |
| 20:36 | *? | |
| 20:36 | ;) | |
| 20:37 | lculber | Well, I'm off to do indexing then. 100000+ biblios and about 24500 authorities I think, so it will be a while. I'll check back. |
| 20:37 | jcamins | Yeah, that'll take a bit. |
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| 20:47 | oleonard | magnus_afk++ # for fixing tweet bot |
| 20:48 | wizzyrea | I really like the tweet bot |
| 20:48 | it could go all the time and i wouldn't complain. | |
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| 20:50 | jcamins | Tweet bot? |
| 20:50 | oleonard | Whatever witchery sends the GBSD tweets |
| 20:50 | jcamins | What GBSD tweets? |
| 20:51 | oleonard | https://twitter.com/KohaGBSD |
| 20:53 | jcamins | Cool! |
| 20:53 | * wizzyrea | pokes qa about bug 7001 |
| 20:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7001 enhancement, P3, ---, srdjan, Signed Off , User Configurable Slips |
| 20:53 | cait | ok, my data is imported :P |
| 20:53 | * cait | joins the ranks for testing bug 7284 |
| 20:53 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 20:54 | jcamins | cait++ |
| 20:54 | wizzyrea | any way to *export* authorities from koha? |
| 20:55 | or is that a "can of worms" | |
| 20:55 | jcamins | wizzyrea: I just use "SELECT marc FROM auth_header;" |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | ohsnaps |
| 20:55 | okies | |
| 20:55 | sekjal | wizzyrea: there is also a command line utility |
| 20:55 | wizzyrea | wut wut |
| 20:56 | jcamins | sekjal: there is? |
| 20:56 | * wizzyrea | peers at sekjal |
| 20:56 | wizzyrea | srsly? |
| 20:57 | sekjal | misc/exportauth.pl |
| 20:57 | wizzyrea | wowie |
| 20:57 | i had no idea. | |
| 20:57 | jcamins | Cool! |
| 20:57 | Nor did I. | |
| 20:57 | sekjal | just does what jcamins described, only automated and into one output file |
| 20:58 | wizzyrea | still - neat |
| 20:58 | sekjal | agreed |
| 20:59 | 7001 is way too big for me to QA today | |
| 20:59 | sorry | |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | :) all good, just getting it on the radar. :) |
| 21:00 | sekjal | it's just about time for me to take off to meet my colleagues over at the science library |
| 21:00 | wizzyrea | they're librarians... FOR SCIENCE. |
| 21:02 | Space_Librarian | Don't mock 'em. I was one for years. :p |
| 21:02 | oleonard | Oh that wasn't mocking, I'm sure. |
| 21:03 | Space_Librarian | I know. |
| 21:03 | cait | wizzyrea? |
| 21:03 | wahanui | I LIKE SCIENCE! |
| 21:03 | cait | :) |
| 21:03 | Space_Librarian | They actually tattle-taped me when I left... *sigh* |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | O.o |
| 21:04 | hey, I love science librarians. | |
| 21:04 | Space_Librarian | And marked me "property of the science library" |
| 21:04 | wizzyrea | hehehehe |
| 21:04 | cait | oh |
| 21:04 | there is an atomiacupdate | |
| 21:04 | Space_Librarian | fun times |
| 21:05 | sekjal | http://cache.ohinternet.com/im[…]o-try-science.jpg |
| 21:05 | * collum | is having flashbacks of dialog searching |
| 21:05 | jcamins | cait: yeah, but fortunately you don't need to run it prior to indexing. |
| 21:05 | cait | that's good :) |
| 21:05 | wizzyrea | yes, exactly |
| 21:05 | cait | although indexing is fast enough, nice laptop :) |
| 21:06 | jcamins: how do I run the update? | |
| 21:06 | oleonard | http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]bin/bug_status.pl |
| 21:06 | jcamins | cait: perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/bug_7284_authority_matching_pt1 |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | perl installer/data/mysql/atomicupdate/ lol dangit |
| 21:06 | you're too fast | |
| 21:06 | cait | ok done |
| 21:06 | wizzyrea | :) |
| 21:06 | cait | thx :) |
| 21:08 | 64! | |
| 21:09 | that's amazing! | |
| 21:09 | and gbsd has not even started in europe | |
| 21:09 | wizzyrea | :D |
| 21:09 | ok, sorry to be dense jcamins -- when you say "make sure you install the following files" -- install from where? | |
| 21:10 | cait | ah |
| 21:10 | I just found that | |
| 21:10 | copy over | |
| 21:10 | oleonard | Those Kiribati devs are good. |
| 21:10 | cait | from kohaclone/etc to your koha-dev/etc |
| 21:10 | wizzyrea | gotcha |
| 21:10 | cait | for indexing... so I have to reindex |
| 21:10 | *sigh* | |
| 21:10 | jcamins | cait: sorry. :( |
| 21:11 | cait | I should have read the instructions :) |
| 21:12 | * jcamins | uses softlinks for all of the Zebra configuration files. |
| 21:12 | jcamins | Other than the .cfg files, obviously. |
| 21:14 | sekjal | okay, off I go. later, #koha! |
| 21:14 | cait | reindexing now |
| 21:18 | oleonard | See ya #koha. Leave me just, you know, one or two bugs to sign off on tomorrow. |
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| 21:18 | wizzyrea | hehe bye oleonard |
| 21:18 | atz! hi! | |
| 21:18 | * oleonard | waves to atz in passing |
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| 21:20 | wizzyrea | aaand by |
| 21:20 | e | |
| 21:21 | cait | hm |
| 21:21 | what is the diffrence between Main entry ($a only) , Main entry and Heading match? | |
| 21:22 | jcamins | Main entry ($a only) is mostly UNIMARC. |
| 21:23 | It's supposed to be only 1xx$a, I think. | |
| 21:23 | Main entry is 1xx$* | |
| 21:23 | Headming match is 1xx$*, 4xx$*, and 5xx$*. | |
| 21:25 | cait | I should not have asked |
| 21:25 | ok | |
| 21:25 | another question | |
| 21:25 | without running any linker | |
| 21:26 | my authority search shows 6 linked records for one of my authorities... | |
| 21:26 | how can that happen? | |
| 21:27 | drojf1 | magic? :) |
| 21:27 | cait | it sure look slike it |
| 21:27 | jcamins: magic? | |
| 21:27 | drojf1 | ev'nin' #koha |
| 21:27 | cait | hi drojf1 ) |
| 21:27 | :) | |
| 21:27 | @wunder Konstanz | |
| 21:27 | huginn` | cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is -10.1°C (10:24 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -13.0°C. Windchill: -14.0°C. Pressure: 30.47 in 1031.7 hPa (Falling). |
| 21:27 | jcamins | cait: that's a good question. |
| 21:27 | Space_Librarian | @wunder wellington, nz |
| 21:28 | huginn` | Space_Librarian: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 18.0°C (10:00 AM NZDT on February 08, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 59%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 21:28 | jcamins | If you don't have anything in $9, that shouldn't happen. |
| 21:28 | cait | I tihnk I know what happened |
| 21:28 | the authimport used our 001 numbers | |
| 21:28 | and the bibliographic data I used had $9 fields... | |
| 21:29 | mtj | morning #koha |
| 21:29 | * mtj | waves to all |
| 21:29 | cait | and it's only working for some because the X at the end got cut off in auth_headers |
| 21:29 | hi mtj :) | |
| 21:29 | drojf1 | @wunder berlin, germany |
| 21:29 | huginn` | drojf1: The current temperature in Prenzlauer Berg, Berlin, Germany is -5.1°C (10:12 PM CET on February 07, 2012). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.81 in 1043.2 hPa (Rising). |
| 21:29 | jcamins | cait: right. |
| 21:30 | That'll do it. | |
| 21:30 | cait | yeah |
| 21:30 | got only confused because it was only a few entries where it worked | |
| 21:30 | sorry | |
| 21:31 | drojf1 | we never used authorities since we had no real library system. if we will start to use them, will we have to link them by hand after importing? or is there some magic to do that for us? |
| 21:31 | * wizzyrea | waits for it |
| 21:31 | jcamins | drojf1: cait is testing the magic for linking. :) |
| 21:31 | wizzyrea | there it is. |
| 21:31 | cait | hehe |
| 21:31 | drojf1 | :) |
| 21:31 | jcamins | You should test it too. |
| 21:31 | cait | he is so predictable :P |
| 21:32 | wizzyrea | hehe |
| 21:32 | jcamins | See how it works for you. |
| 21:32 | * wizzyrea | is trying to get authorities out of her production system |
| 21:32 | cait | oh |
| 21:32 | is tomorrow blue cat wednesday? | |
| 21:32 | drojf1 | not tonight, had a long day of filemaker boredom. but i will try tomorrow |
| 21:32 | that is, i will try to try :) | |
| 21:33 | which bug is it? | |
| 21:33 | jcamins | Bug 7284. |
| 21:33 | wahanui | well, bug 7284 is the first step to making that happen. |
| 21:33 | jcamins | cait: yup. |
| 21:33 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7284 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Authority matching algorithm improvements |
| 21:33 | cait | say hi to chester :) |
| 21:34 | jcamins | I will. :) |
| 21:35 | cait | wow 4 new system preferences? |
| 21:35 | jcamins | Yeah. |
| 21:35 | And actually there's one undocumented feature. | |
| 21:35 | I realized that last night. | |
| 21:37 | * drojf1 | is too tired to even read the whole description now :( |
| 21:37 | * jcamins | will update the bug to reflect it. |
| 21:38 | * wizzyrea | loves surprises |
| 21:38 | cait | drojf1: I go one sentence .at a time |
| 21:38 | ok, I tested the first part | |
| 21:39 | but now I am not even sure what BiblioAddsAuthorities does | |
| 21:39 | jcamins | It sets whether you can edit authority-controlled fields at all. |
| 21:40 | drojf1 | i will try tomorrow. i have the feeling that i wont be too koha-productive though since i will actually go to the library. there are always people to bother me with non-koha things ;) |
| 21:40 | cait: maybe you can write me a walktrhough for the walkthrough and i follow in your footsteps ;) | |
| 21:41 | cait | lol |
| 21:41 | jcamins | cait: I thought about eliminating it, but thought that might be a problem for QA. |
| 21:41 | I mean, that QA-ers wouldn't like it. | |
| 21:41 | cait | sorry, I am stuck in the labyrinth myself |
| 21:41 | drojf1 | i hope you used bread crumbs |
| 21:41 | cait | yarn :) |
| 21:41 | bread crumbs get eaten by the cats | |
| 21:41 | jcamins | cait: but yarn gets played with! |
| 21:42 | eythian | hi everyone |
| 21:42 | cait | hi eythian |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | holy snaps. |
| 21:42 | jcamins | eythian! You should join the 7284-signing off party! |
| 21:42 | cait | jcamins: yeah... so i am LOST! |
| 21:42 | wizzyrea | I did not know that members/update-child.pl even existed. |
| 21:42 | * wizzyrea | feels a bit dumb now |
| 21:42 | jcamins | cait: :( |
| 21:42 | cait: I thought I made it very clear. | |
| 21:42 | cait | wizzyrea: apparently noone knew |
| 21:42 | jcamins | I guess not? |
| 21:42 | cait | jcamins: yes, but my yarn got played with... |
| 21:42 | drojf1 | lol |
| 21:43 | * cait | thinks it was the blue cat |
| 21:43 | cait | jcamins: it's only getting late and I had a long day - will try to continue tomorrow |
| 21:43 | I have set up the database now and cataloging behaves like it should so far :) | |
| 21:43 | no worries | |
| 21:45 | drojf1 | i dont know if we even have a framework for authorities now. or specs for one. i see a whole new world of fun in front of me |
| 21:45 | jcamins | drojf1: the authorities framework comes by default. |
| 21:46 | drojf1 | yes but we have to decide what fields we will use |
| 21:46 | and i hope i am not the person to do that | |
| 21:46 | eythian | jcamins: authorities scare me a little I think :) |
| 21:46 | drojf1 | have not looked at that much yet |
| 21:47 | eythian: me too :D | |
| 21:47 | jcamins | eythian: that's how we know you're human. :P |
| 21:49 | cait | lol |
| 21:49 | drojf1: if you set an installation up with the sample files, it should work for playing with jcamins patch | |
| 21:49 | wizzyrea | oh - uh, I should do THAT |
| 21:49 | rather than do what I'm doing :P | |
| 21:50 | cait++ for always having the best ideas. | |
| 21:50 | cait | ? |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | using the sample data. |
| 21:50 | der. | |
| 21:50 | cait | ah |
| 21:50 | drojf1 | cait: yeah i thought so. but its an issue for our import too and i have not heard much from my colleague about it. so i guess nothing happened in that field for us |
| 21:50 | cait | I meant the frameworks |
| 21:50 | you will still need authority records I guess | |
| 21:50 | wizzyrea | hrmph. |
| 21:50 | :) | |
| 21:50 | cait | heh |
| 21:59 | slef | @marc 001 |
| 21:59 | huginn` | slef: The control number assigned by the organization creating, using, or distributing the record. The MARC code for the organization is contained in field 003 (Control Number Identifier). [] |
| 22:00 | slef | marc21? |
| 22:00 | wahanui | marc21 is at http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/ecbdlist.html , http://www.loc.gov/marc/authority/ecadlist.html |
| 22:00 | wizzyrea | i'm vaguely surprised that there is no reference to marc being evil or needing to die in there. |
| 22:00 | drojf1 | :D |
| 22:00 | eythian | wahanui: marc |
| 22:00 | wahanui | http://marc-must-die.info |
| 22:01 | eythian | there you go |
| 22:01 | wizzyrea | keke |
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| 22:02 | * drojf1 | sneaks off to bed |
| 22:02 | drojf1 | good night #koha, have a nice meeting |
| 22:03 | wizzyrea | jcamins: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r[…]-from-drille.html |
| 22:03 | cait | night drojf1 |
| 22:04 | jcamins | That's pretty cool, but I'm not sure how practical it is. |
| 22:04 | I prefer my reading lamps to shine line down from overhead. | |
| 22:04 | wizzyrea | it's not - just a use for very old (not rare) books |
| 22:05 | druthb | $140-150 for that? dang. I'm in the wrong bizness. |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | it's not too late! |
| 22:06 | * wizzyrea | imagines them made out of old romance novels |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea | spicy! |
| 22:06 | druthb | lulz. |
| 22:06 | cait | lol |
| 22:06 | wizzyrea++ | |
| 22:07 | druthb | 11 or 12 bucks for the bulb, find the books at goodwill (or make a library book sale VERY happy), plus some wiring, a switch, and a bulb base.... |
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| 22:10 | lculber | Really dumb question about web interfaces used for testing - cloned branch. |
| 22:11 | wizzyrea | i'm sure it's not dumb, go ahead |
| 22:11 | @quote search ask | |
| 22:11 | huginn` | wizzyrea: 7 found: #117: "<druthb> basking ? You bask on the beach...one...", #126: "<rangi> The beauty of Koha is we develop in the...", #13: "<atz> ricardo: ask and ye shall receive.......", #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!", #155: "libsysguy: I always hate touching somebody...", #45: "<CGI988> sekjal - you are a genious!!!!! asking...", and #4: "< kf> I often get asked: You have to study to..." |
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| 22:12 | lculber | wizzyrea: don't underestimate my stupidity. I cloned master, checked out and set up and set up a test branch to use, and that's where my data is. |
| 22:12 | wizzyrea | @quote get 145 |
| 22:12 | huginn` | wizzyrea: Quote #145: "Don't ask to ask, just ask!" (added by wizzyrea at 02:37 PM, July 07, 2011) |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | seems sand :) |
| 22:13 | sane* even. | |
| 22:13 | cait | good night all |
| 22:13 | wizzyrea | gnite cait |
| 22:13 | druthb | wizzyrea++ #gots her reasons, m'kay? |
| 22:14 | lculber | Okay, well now when I try to get to it using the ip address I can't see the data. I can see it in the database, but not in the browser |
| 22:14 | wizzyrea | but you get the web interface? |
| 22:14 | cait | will not be around for the meeting :( |
| 22:14 | 3am... *sigh* | |
| 22:14 | lculber | Yes, but it is empty. |
| 22:14 | cait left #koha | |
| 22:15 | wizzyrea | meaning that you can click around, but there's nothing in there to look at? |
| 22:15 | or that the page is entirely blank | |
| 22:15 | sorry to be dense :) | |
| 22:15 | lculber | I can click around but it doesn't even look like the right version. It looks like 3.6, when it should be master - that's what I cloned |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | well 3.6 and master would look very similar. |
| 22:16 | but, the point is | |
| 22:16 | lculber | In about it says. 3.6. 0. 0 |
| 22:16 | wizzyrea | ah, are you running more than one instance on this test machine? |
| 22:16 | magnus_afk | 64 bugs that need signoff - more awesomeness! i'll do my best to tackle bug 6440 tomorrow, if noone beats me to it |
| 22:16 | huginn` | 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6440 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Needs Signoff , Koha's OAI-PMH does not support sets |
| 22:17 | wizzyrea | that one is all yours :) |
| 22:17 | magnus_afk | wizzyrea: yay ;-) |
| 22:17 | lculber | wizzyrea, yes, afraid there is another instance - 3.6.2 and it's beautiful. |
| 22:17 | magnus_afk | g'night #koha, and happy hunting! |
| 22:18 | lculber | I gave the other instance a name of koha_test and tried that, - no go, and so tried the ip. Same thing. I don't know what else to try. |
| 22:18 | jcamins | lculber: probably you need to run updatedatabase. |
| 22:19 | lculber: or, how did you set up multiple instances? | |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | I don't think that would keep her from seeing things like patrons, for example |
| 22:19 | jcamins | wizzyrea: ah, hm. |
| 22:19 | * jcamins | didn't read all the way back. |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | I suspect that there is some confusion about which koha-conf.xml it's looking at |
| 22:19 | lculber | I set up the multiple instances using the instructions on the wiki |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | oh, link? |
| 22:19 | wahanui | rumour has it link is a bit confusing |
| 22:19 | wizzyrea | forget link |
| 22:19 | wahanui | wizzyrea: I forgot link |
| 22:19 | slef | bleah anyone want a cataloguing question? |
| 22:20 | jcamins | slef: no, what is it? |
| 22:20 | wizzyrea | hahaha |
| 22:20 | Space_Librarian | depends... |
| 22:20 | slef | when cataloging a book that was donated, can the donor's name go in the marc21 anywhere? |
| 22:21 | jcamins | slef: 561. |
| 22:21 | Or... | |
| 22:21 | 541. | |
| 22:21 | Probably 541. | |
| 22:21 | wizzyrea | nm I found it, lculber. |
| 22:22 | ok so | |
| 22:22 | slef | jcamins: 542 looks good. ta. |
| 22:22 | jcamins++ | |
| 22:22 | jcamins | 541. |
| 22:22 | 542 is for copyright. | |
| 22:22 | slef | 1 |
| 22:22 | sorry | |
| 22:23 | kindle keyb a bit fiddly | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | ..... kindle? |
| 22:23 | * wizzyrea | faints |
| 22:23 | slef | yeah |
| 22:23 | it runs debian | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | hehehehe |
| 22:23 | nice one | |
| 22:23 | slef | low power |
| 22:23 | free 3g | |
| 22:23 | wizzyrea | actually that's quite awesome. |
| 22:24 | easy to read :) | |
| 22:24 | schuster | Why in the MARC and not just the item record itself? |
| 22:24 | slef | although 3g only in the browser |
| 22:24 | schuster | That way when the Library "weeds" the donated copy and another copy comes in you don't think that was the donated copy. and your MARC record is still "clean" |
| 22:24 | slef | so I just regret the amaxonism and foxconn |
| 22:25 | schuster: very good point | |
| 22:25 | schuster | OPAC note is a good spot for the item - Donated by- and still searchable by Koha. |
| 22:25 | I have moments... | |
| 22:25 | slef | schuster: best ask them why they put them in the bibs on the current cat |
| 22:25 | wizzyrea | slef - it's getting difficult to buy ethically produced electronics. :( |
| 22:26 | slef | so that'll take a week... |
| 22:26 | wizzyrea | they're like the nike shoes of the current generation |
| 22:26 | schuster | probably because that was the only place they could put it to be indexed. - slef |
| 22:26 | slef | wizzyrea: getting??? |
| 22:26 | wizzyrea | well i'm not sure you actually *can* buy ethically produced electronics. |
| 22:26 | jcamins | lculber: where is your master install located? |
| 22:27 | I mean, koha-dev, koha-dev2... ? | |
| 22:27 | wizzyrea | i was *trying* (poorly) to be optimistics |
| 22:27 | :P | |
| 22:27 | slef | wizzyrea: we've always had this prob. Ever sinceI've looked into it |
| 22:27 | schuster | ok done for now! I'm working on my batch picture upload command line and borrower batch command line utilities for cron jobs that we have running |
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| 22:28 | wizzyrea | slef: :((( |
| 22:28 | slef | wizzyrea: it's the only bit of the coop codewe completely fail on and always have |
| 22:29 | wizzyrea | don't even know where to begin on that problem. |
| 22:29 | slef | and niw lots of stuff has conflict minerals in |
| 22:29 | now | |
| 22:29 | me either | |
| 22:29 | lculber | jcamins: master was downloaded to /home/lculber/kohaclone but it was installed to the regular koha paths like /user/share/koha_test |
| 22:29 | the instance is called koha_test | |
| 22:30 | slef | I've a bamboo keyboard and some uk-made stuff |
| 22:30 | but it's minor | |
| 22:30 | wizzyrea | *nod* |
| 22:30 | slef | @marc 952 |
| 22:30 | wahanui | The 952 field is used by Koha to store item data in MARC21 and is described at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_fields_%289xx%29 |
| 22:30 | huginn` | slef: unknown tag 952 |
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| 22:34 | slef | biab |
| 22:36 | jcamins | lculber: oh, in that case you need to adjust the export... commands to match /usr/share/koha_test/* |
| 22:37 | Probably you need to adjust your Apache config to point to /usr/share/koha_test too. | |
| 22:37 | wizzyrea | sounded to me like she had apache sorted :) |
| 22:40 | lculber | We got it. It was an apache configuration issue. And then the database did need to be updated. Thanks for the help wizzyrea and jcamins. I was going nuts. |
| 22:42 | Now about says 3.07.00.011 | |
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| 22:42 | wizzyrea | squee! |
| 22:42 | jcamins | Hooray! |
| 22:43 | lculber | Yes! My data is all there and I can start testing. Sorry it's taken me so long. Thanks for your patience and help. |
| 22:45 | jcamins: We have lots of authorities and the only ones that are linked are the ones since we moved to Koha in May. How would you like us to start? | |
| 22:45 | Ones added I mean. | |
| 22:46 | Most of them are older from old system | |
| 22:50 | jcamins | lculber: there's a complete test plan on the ticket, but you might also just try turning LinkerRelink and LinkerKeepStale on and turning AutoCreateAuthorities off. |
| 22:50 | See if that gets the links set up the way you want. | |
| 22:50 | Or, maybe even better: | |
| 22:51 | Turn LinkerKeepStale off, and set LinkerOptions to "broader_headings" | |
| 22:51 | (leaving LinkerRelink on and AutoCreateAuthorities off) | |
| 22:52 | Then run link_bibs_to_authorities.pl -l -v > ~/linker.log | |
| 22:53 | Do you have a lot of duplicate authorities? | |
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| 22:55 | lculber | This is exciting. Will link_bibs_to_authorities.pl work now? I saw that was one of the tests. Should I hold off on it? |
| 22:55 | jcamins | It should. |
| 22:55 | lculber | We shouldn't have any duplicate auhtorities as far as I know - but that doesn't mean we don't |
| 22:56 | jcamins | The best thing to do for testing would probably be to work through the test plan on the bug, then try the combination of settings I just gave you and see if that links everything you feel should be linked. |
| 22:56 | Hm. | |
| 22:56 | You might want to also use the FirstMatch LinkerModule. | |
| 22:57 | (for the final test) | |
| 22:58 | The test plan will enable you to confidently sign off on the bug for Koha. | |
| 22:59 | The configuration I suggested will hopefully meet MDAH's needs long-term. :) | |
| 22:59 | lculber | Fantastic. I'm going to get the cataloger who specializes in authority work to work with me. She will be excited and know what to watch for. We are SO excited!! |
| 23:00 | jcamins++ | |
| 23:00 | jcamins | :) |
| 23:00 | * jcamins | is very excited to have this in Koha, too. |
| 23:00 | lculber | Off for testing. thanks! |
| 23:01 | jcamins | You're welcome. |
| 23:01 | Post any comments you have on the bug. :) | |
| 23:31 | Good night, #koha. |
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